WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:07.000 There we are. 2 00:00:07.000 --> 00:00:09.000 All right, fam. 3 00:00:09.000 --> 00:00:11.000 How we doing. 4 00:00:11.000 --> 00:00:12.000 Think we had. 5 00:00:12.000 --> 00:00:14.000 I think we're streaming. 6 00:00:14.000 --> 00:00:15.000 Nearly there. 7 00:00:15.000 --> 00:00:17.000 That's it. 8 00:00:17.000 --> 00:00:19.000 We're there. We're there. Yep. 9 00:00:19.000 --> 00:00:20.000 Rock and roll. 10 00:00:20.000 --> 00:00:24.000 This is real life. 11 00:00:24.000 --> 00:00:26.000 Yes. 12 00:00:26.000 --> 00:00:29.000 Oh my goodness. 13 00:00:29.000 --> 00:00:32.000 What a delight family. What a delight. 14 00:00:32.000 --> 00:00:38.000 It is to have Jason Cobb with us and. 15 00:00:38.000 --> 00:00:48.000 One of the most humble guys around, but also a real hero for me in this. 16 00:00:48.000 --> 00:00:54.000 Everything that he carries and how he carries it, you're going to love this session with Jason. 17 00:00:54.000 --> 00:00:56.000 It's just so beautiful. 18 00:00:56.000 --> 00:01:01.000 So Jason, it's your morning there. How are you doing? How are you feeling? 19 00:01:01.000 --> 00:01:03.000 Benji doing good doing, doing great. 20 00:01:03.000 --> 00:01:10.000 I just pulled away to a quiet place in our campus because this time in the morning here, it's quite noisy. 21 00:01:10.000 --> 00:01:15.000 All the kids having their baths and getting scrubbed up and, you know, noises will come. 22 00:01:15.000 --> 00:01:18.000 So I just pulled away to a quiet place. 23 00:01:18.000 --> 00:01:20.000 Yeah. 24 00:01:20.000 --> 00:01:21.000 Very, very nice. 25 00:01:21.000 --> 00:01:28.000 We're going to hear more very shortly about where you are and what's unfolding and who all these kids are. 26 00:01:28.000 --> 00:01:32.000 But Sam, my man, how are you doing? This is session 17 in the summit. 27 00:01:32.000 --> 00:01:34.000 How are you vibing? 28 00:01:34.000 --> 00:01:37.000 I'm firing. I'm firing. I am just pumped. 29 00:01:37.000 --> 00:01:42.000 Just feel a real, real energy and real grace just over this whole thing. 30 00:01:42.000 --> 00:01:48.000 And so, yeah, it's just been an awesome weekend and where we've got so much goodness to go. 31 00:01:48.000 --> 00:01:52.000 So it's there's some sneaky surprises in there for us all, I think. 32 00:01:52.000 --> 00:01:55.000 So I'm excited. It's good stuff. 33 00:01:55.000 --> 00:02:00.000 Absolutely. Hey, well, yeah, I mean, I can actually I can still feel myself vibrating. 34 00:02:00.000 --> 00:02:05.000 You know, it's like the I'm just like, whoa, everything that God is doing. 35 00:02:05.000 --> 00:02:11.000 It's kind of like you get the synergy of what everyone's bringing and then on, you know, like what everyone's bringing. 36 00:02:11.000 --> 00:02:15.000 You get that synergy and then it's like God's breathing on it all as well. 37 00:02:15.000 --> 00:02:25.000 So it feels like I've actually had this before at conferences where God's doing something so significant in you that you actually feel this vibration going on inside of you. 38 00:02:25.000 --> 00:02:30.000 It's like, whoa, something's shaking, like really structurally on the core of who you are. 39 00:02:30.000 --> 00:02:40.000 And then I've come out of it. And in a sense, it's like God has rewired my brain, like beyond just there's something that can happen as well. 40 00:02:40.000 --> 00:02:44.000 It's beyond what you're able to do just in the normal process of repentance. 41 00:02:44.000 --> 00:02:56.000 But you can get in an atmosphere that actually expands your capacity to think alongside the mind of Christ, beyond just what you would normally do in praying and reading your Bible. 42 00:02:56.000 --> 00:03:03.000 There's atmospheres that you can get amongst, communities that you can get amongst, fire that you can get amongst. 43 00:03:03.000 --> 00:03:18.000 And when you get in that space, it's like, boom, the way that God touches you as you come out of that with an expanded capacity, a little bit like the matrix, you know, like Neo's kind of like, whoa, I know Kung Fu. 44 00:03:18.000 --> 00:03:29.000 It's a little bit like that, but just this massive expansion. So feeling it shaking, vibrating and full of anticipation for this session now with Jason. 45 00:03:29.000 --> 00:03:43.000 And Jason, if you just want to lead us in some beautiful prayer and counter time, just open up the space and maybe even just create a little bit of a space for fresh encounter for people and just lead it however you want. 46 00:03:43.000 --> 00:03:54.000 I'm excited and so, so honored to have you here and everyone who's out there live or for the replay. Hello, hello. What a delight to have you all with us. 47 00:03:54.000 --> 00:04:01.000 It's so good having our team with us from all around the world. I was feeling the glory on it. You guys are amazing. 48 00:04:01.000 --> 00:04:12.000 So I'm just watching your comments down here as I speak to you. So hello, hello. Lots of people saying hi to Jason and feeling that explosion, the expansion, which is exciting. 49 00:04:12.000 --> 00:04:22.000 So Jason, why don't you take it away for us with some, some beautiful prayer. 50 00:04:22.000 --> 00:04:24.000 Father, we give you praise. 51 00:04:25.000 --> 00:04:42.000 We give you praise. We thank you for this summit, this business summit. We thank you that it's like a precursor to the glory and splendor of the nations being presented to you. 52 00:04:42.000 --> 00:04:52.000 This is like a gathering of the glory and splendor of the nations being brought to give glory and honor to you. 53 00:04:52.000 --> 00:04:59.000 We give you thanks Jesus for all that you've done for us, all that you are doing for us. 54 00:05:00.000 --> 00:05:09.000 is extending. Jesus, you are seated in heaven, and Lord, you are pouring out. You are filling 55 00:05:09.000 --> 00:05:13.800 the earth with yourself. You are filling the earth with your glory. And we thank you that 56 00:05:13.800 --> 00:05:19.920 you are filling this conference online and through Zoom. You are filling even this gathering 57 00:05:19.920 --> 00:05:27.320 here. We thank you, Jesus, that you are just extending your kingdom in and through us. 58 00:05:27.320 --> 00:05:32.800 We give you praise, Lord. We thank you, sweet Holy Spirit, that you are here with us. You 59 00:05:32.800 --> 00:05:37.800 are the manifestation of the Father and the Son. You are here with us, and we thank you 60 00:05:37.800 --> 00:05:44.120 that you are flowing in and through this. And everyone that will hear this in the days 61 00:05:44.120 --> 00:05:50.200 to come, you are flowing through this. And Lord, we just give you praise, sweet Spirit 62 00:05:50.200 --> 00:05:56.400 of God. We just welcome your presence to be here. We welcome your open heaven to be here, 63 00:05:56.400 --> 00:06:00.720 and we thank you. Beautiful Trinity, we thank you. We thank you for Benji. We thank you 64 00:06:00.720 --> 00:06:05.320 for this beautiful family. We thank you for Sebastian and his beautiful family. We just 65 00:06:05.320 --> 00:06:09.960 bless everyone gathered here. We thank you for raising royalty. Father, we thank you 66 00:06:09.960 --> 00:06:16.400 for this amazing family that is growing in the earth. In Jesus' name, I pray. 67 00:06:17.400 --> 00:06:25.200 Amen. Wow. So much goodness. Man, I really caught that just then when you just said, 68 00:06:25.200 --> 00:06:34.000 you know, expanding his kingdom in us. I just want to really encourage everyone right now, 69 00:06:34.000 --> 00:06:41.960 you know, that God wants to advance his kingdom in us. He actually wants his kingdom to expand 70 00:06:41.960 --> 00:06:46.920 its territory within you. The kingdom of heaven is within you, and it actually wants 71 00:06:46.920 --> 00:06:58.880 to expand on the inside of you. And that expansion comes through agreement. So, Jason, first 72 00:06:58.880 --> 00:07:05.960 of all, why don't you tell us a little bit about where you are? Oh, there we go. A little 73 00:07:05.960 --> 00:07:17.760 bit of happiness. Whose happiness is that? It was just random. That was someone's happiness 74 00:07:17.760 --> 00:07:26.960 exploding out here. That's great. Hey, so what would be great, Jason, why don't you 75 00:07:26.960 --> 00:07:32.800 just start by unpacking for us where you are? And I know you've got to be a little bit discreet 76 00:07:32.800 --> 00:07:39.120 in some contexts, but as much as you're able or feel comfortable, tell us where you are, 77 00:07:39.120 --> 00:07:45.320 what's happening around you, and who are all these beautiful children you're talking about? 78 00:07:45.320 --> 00:07:53.720 So thanks, Benji. I'm a Kiwi. I married a beautiful Indian lady called Andrea, and so 79 00:07:53.720 --> 00:08:01.120 I call myself a Kindian. I'm a Kiwi Indian. I love New Zealand, but I have come to really 80 00:08:01.120 --> 00:08:09.680 love India. India is now my home. And the Lord sent us to quite a remote part of India 81 00:08:09.680 --> 00:08:15.880 up into the mountains in a beautiful place, like mountains and rivers and valleys and 82 00:08:15.880 --> 00:08:22.320 beautiful lakes and beautiful people. This is a land of the tribes. There are like 47 83 00:08:22.320 --> 00:08:27.560 tribes here in this land, all with different languages and different costumes and tattoos 84 00:08:27.560 --> 00:08:34.720 and nose rings and jewelry and, you know, different colorful saris and different ways 85 00:08:34.720 --> 00:08:41.080 of dressing them. It really is a beautiful and exotic land, but it's been a land that's 86 00:08:41.080 --> 00:08:50.640 faced a lot of struggle, a lot of tough stuff. And so, yeah, the Lord has brought us to what 87 00:08:50.640 --> 00:08:56.080 was a really tough land, but we are seeing things change, and that's what we're here 88 00:08:56.080 --> 00:08:57.920 for. That's why Jesus sent us. 89 00:08:57.920 --> 00:09:08.640 Come on. That's beautiful. So, you're in a children's home. Who are these kids? Where 90 00:09:08.640 --> 00:09:11.360 do they come from? 91 00:09:11.360 --> 00:09:19.720 So I married Andrea, and so Andrea has come from three generations of running schools 92 00:09:19.720 --> 00:09:26.240 and children's homes. So I also traveled around the world and come to India, and India 93 00:09:26.240 --> 00:09:33.800 just like triggered in my heart big time. So we, you know, we were New Zealand, we were 94 00:09:33.800 --> 00:09:39.320 South India, and then the Lord opened up an amazing door for us to come here to this place. 95 00:09:39.320 --> 00:09:45.040 And he actually gifted to us a beautiful piece of land, three acres, with a basic school 96 00:09:45.360 --> 00:09:51.760 building on, and that's become our home. And so, yeah, because of Andrea's life, you know, 97 00:09:51.760 --> 00:09:58.080 she's grown up in a children's home. So it was natural that we started a home here. And 98 00:09:58.080 --> 00:10:00.000 so, yeah, it's like 18. 99 00:10:00.000 --> 00:10:05.280 it's coming to 20 years that we've been having kids with us and many hundreds of kids. In fact, 100 00:10:05.280 --> 00:10:10.240 last week, we just went to a wedding of one of our girls and a number of kids gathered. And, 101 00:10:10.240 --> 00:10:16.080 you know, so now there's a doctor, there's engineers, you know, there's teachers, 102 00:10:16.080 --> 00:10:21.360 and there's just really beautiful kids that have come through our hands out there and just sharing 103 00:10:21.360 --> 00:10:28.400 the love and building into their communities. And it's just, it's a joy. And here, you know, today, 104 00:10:30.000 --> 00:10:35.760 I come out in the mornings, we, Andrew, and I come out in the morning, and, you know, we would 105 00:10:35.760 --> 00:10:40.880 get like 50 good morning, dads, good morning, mom. And that, you know, there's nothing that can 106 00:10:40.880 --> 00:10:46.240 compare with that. You know, these kids have been born here, they've come in a very, very small, 107 00:10:46.240 --> 00:10:52.320 most would not have survived had they not come here. So it's a real mercy. And, you know, just 108 00:10:52.640 --> 00:11:00.480 that deep sense of, you know, love and connectivity that we can pour into pour our lives into 109 00:11:01.440 --> 00:11:10.080 a bunch of kids, and just brings deep sense of fulfillment. And, yeah, it's gold. It's gold. 110 00:11:11.440 --> 00:11:16.880 Oh, man. Yeah, that sounds so good. I love it. So, so powerful. 111 00:11:17.280 --> 00:11:25.200 Jason, I'm wondering, did you meet your wife in India? Or do you meet her in New Zealand? How did 112 00:11:25.200 --> 00:11:31.760 how did that work? And, and, you know, from there, I'm curious, like, when when you were first 113 00:11:31.760 --> 00:11:37.680 established in India, how did that? How did that dynamic work? Was that an easy transition that 114 00:11:37.680 --> 00:11:40.960 did that? Was that easy? Just just interested and curious. 115 00:11:41.840 --> 00:11:48.160 Hmm. Okay. Thanks for that question. So, Andrea was 17 years old, and she was studying at Faith 116 00:11:48.160 --> 00:11:57.840 Bible College in Welcome Bay, Taronga. So I went to a party, a farewell party at Pine Garoa. And 117 00:11:57.840 --> 00:12:02.720 this young Indian girl was there wearing a churidar. And she was very beautiful. And 118 00:12:02.720 --> 00:12:08.080 I had just returned from, you know, one year in India. And so it was natural for me to go and 119 00:12:08.080 --> 00:12:13.040 talk with her. And yeah, then we chatted. And those days, I had long hair and was wearing beads. 120 00:12:13.040 --> 00:12:18.560 And, you know, probably not the kind of guy that she wanted to talk with. But anyway, Jesus was 121 00:12:18.560 --> 00:12:23.040 the center of the conversation. And yeah, it was beautiful. So that was the first meeting. The next 122 00:12:23.040 --> 00:12:30.400 day, we met as well at a hangi. And yeah, then I asked, you know, we swapped dresses, and I began 123 00:12:30.400 --> 00:12:36.080 to write to her. And it was seven years after that time of meeting that we married and the Lord 124 00:12:36.080 --> 00:12:43.200 was in that whole journey. We married in New Zealand. Interesting. You know, I grew up on 125 00:12:43.200 --> 00:12:48.880 Pukahina Beach, just a little down the coast from Benji, beautiful, beautiful piece of New Zealand, 126 00:12:48.880 --> 00:12:54.000 you know, six kilometers of beach, like I was the only one there. You know, I could walk the beach. 127 00:12:54.560 --> 00:13:01.040 So really, you know, simple family, mom, dad, and me for quite a few years, then brother and sister 128 00:13:01.040 --> 00:13:07.600 came later. So I was used to a very small kind of insular family, a lot of space to myself. 129 00:13:08.160 --> 00:13:14.160 When Andrea came to New Zealand after marriage, she just like struggled with isolation. She was 130 00:13:14.160 --> 00:13:20.720 like, really, you know, she just didn't couldn't handle it, actually. So she wanted to go back home. 131 00:13:20.720 --> 00:13:26.800 So we went back to New Zealand, sorry, back to India. And there for me, it was a real change. 132 00:13:26.800 --> 00:13:32.080 Like Andrea would sit on the bed and 20 other people would sit on the bed as well. And I would 133 00:13:32.080 --> 00:13:38.160 like being like a quiet space, private space for me. So I had to go through that whole thing of, 134 00:13:38.160 --> 00:13:45.360 you know, insular and community and being part of a community, a big family. Now I love it. Now I 135 00:13:45.360 --> 00:13:52.240 just, you know, 20 years down the track, I just love community. I love the big family. I love, 136 00:13:53.040 --> 00:14:01.520 you know, just sharing the love. That's awesome. What about what about the, you know, your pursuit 137 00:14:01.520 --> 00:14:07.440 of the gospel and the region you're in? And was that was that received? Well, was the gospel 138 00:14:07.440 --> 00:14:14.800 that that net? Was that an actual thing that helped navigate the space there? And how did 139 00:14:14.800 --> 00:14:20.720 that go? Did that just naturally develop as the homes developed? Or how did that happen? 140 00:14:22.240 --> 00:14:29.680 Okay, so in the early years, things were really tough. I mean, things were really, really tough. 141 00:14:29.680 --> 00:14:35.520 Andrea had come from quite stable, you know, environments in the south of India. 142 00:14:36.400 --> 00:14:41.360 The family had built up many schools and homes. The south of India has a lot more 143 00:14:43.280 --> 00:14:48.560 Christian heritage, doesn't it? It does, it does Benji. You even have the, 144 00:14:49.440 --> 00:14:57.040 the Apostle Thomas, right, made it all the way to into the south of India. And he was there for 145 00:14:57.040 --> 00:14:59.920 over a decade ministering there. And you'll probably know this. 146 00:15:00.000 --> 00:15:05.360 story better than myself but do you know the story of him you know like and the brahmin 147 00:15:06.320 --> 00:15:13.040 uh the brahmin class can can you tell that if you know that story i just it's a great story 148 00:15:14.640 --> 00:15:24.720 well um so it's true um because our children have actually asked thomas in heaven and yes he did 149 00:15:24.800 --> 00:15:32.160 throw the water into the air as like a as like a challenge and it did suspend in the air they've 150 00:15:32.160 --> 00:15:39.600 actually asked him that question and uh yeah our kids have actually got to meet thomas and jesus 151 00:15:39.600 --> 00:15:46.400 gave our children a gift and it was like a taurus scroll box and it had a scroll inside and the 152 00:15:46.400 --> 00:15:53.680 kids asked jesus what is this and uh and jesus said it's because thomas was the first one that 153 00:15:53.680 --> 00:15:58.960 brought the gospel to india and so our kids got to present that gift to him when they went to his 154 00:15:58.960 --> 00:16:05.680 mansion that's so cool that's going to be opening a little bit of a can of good worms which we're 155 00:16:05.680 --> 00:16:10.240 going to explore in a minute but yeah if you don't know that story of thomas he was he was there for 156 00:16:10.240 --> 00:16:15.600 like a decade ministering to kind of the poorer class and not you know make like seeing signs and 157 00:16:15.600 --> 00:16:20.640 wonders and miracles and seeing some great stuff happen but it's the brahmin class which is a higher 158 00:16:20.640 --> 00:16:25.280 class of society that he was ministering he was trying to get an in in road into and nothing 159 00:16:25.280 --> 00:16:30.960 happened but they worship the sun right and each morning they would come down and worship the sun 160 00:16:30.960 --> 00:16:34.960 as part of it they would throw their worship they would go into the water and they would throw the 161 00:16:34.960 --> 00:16:40.720 water over their shoulders as part of the worship ritual am i am i right on roughly on track with 162 00:16:40.720 --> 00:16:48.160 that um definitely water is involved in the worship yes yeah and so anyway there was basically 163 00:16:48.160 --> 00:16:53.680 this conversation type confrontation type challenge where they said to thomas i you know 164 00:16:53.680 --> 00:16:57.920 where thomas said hey i'm going to throw this water up it's going to suspend as a sign you know 165 00:16:57.920 --> 00:17:02.960 that jesus is the true god and um so it was roughly along those lines and he threw the water up and 166 00:17:02.960 --> 00:17:11.040 the water suspended in the air and when they saw that this high class a brahmin uh group just 167 00:17:11.040 --> 00:17:16.240 converted to christianity which opened up this beautiful heritage but now if you go to kerala 168 00:17:16.240 --> 00:17:21.760 or southern you know southern india it's like wow there's this real rich heritage because this high 169 00:17:21.760 --> 00:17:28.880 class of society was actually transformed through this amazing uh miracle that thomas you know like 170 00:17:28.880 --> 00:17:33.840 that thomas performed there that really when you go there to southern india and kerala area it's 171 00:17:33.840 --> 00:17:38.640 like wow this is amazing it's got this huge heritage of centuries of christianity there 172 00:17:38.640 --> 00:17:47.200 but probably not the same story when you went to where you are now so it was tough benji it was 173 00:17:47.200 --> 00:17:58.560 tough you know and in those early days um we were beaten we were spat at we urinated on uh we had a 174 00:17:58.560 --> 00:18:09.200 beautiful building and land that was unjustly stolen from us um yeah it was tough it was really 175 00:18:09.200 --> 00:18:19.440 really hard we you know um i'm a foreigner i'm from outside andrea was you know accused of being 176 00:18:19.440 --> 00:18:26.320 a betrayer of mother india for marrying a foreigner um yeah those days were really really tough 177 00:18:27.200 --> 00:18:35.680 you know 2007 we were really attacked by a big group of people from another community 178 00:18:36.320 --> 00:18:42.880 and uh you know they evicted us from a building and they threw all our stuff out on the road 179 00:18:42.880 --> 00:18:48.560 i actually didn't i wasn't present to see it but my wife had to handle all that horrible stuff 180 00:18:48.560 --> 00:18:53.760 and we had to move our kids and our staff out of that building um and come down to this land 181 00:18:53.760 --> 00:19:00.320 that we were now but it was so humiliating it was so shameful uh chanting mantras against us and just 182 00:19:00.320 --> 00:19:05.600 saying they'll shave our heads and march us down the main street they really you know they really 183 00:19:05.600 --> 00:19:12.240 worked to chase us out of town they didn't want people like us into town tough days a year later 184 00:19:12.240 --> 00:19:19.680 2008 you know there was this real persecution that broke out broke out in another mountain range but 185 00:19:19.680 --> 00:19:25.920 it actually spread into our area you know 60,000 christians were made homeless it was the biggest 186 00:19:25.920 --> 00:19:34.080 assault upon christians in in indian history actually 600 villages were raised um there was 187 00:19:34.080 --> 00:19:42.640 martyrdom uh different figures but it was true and so we um we also got you know caught up and 188 00:19:42.640 --> 00:19:48.240 all that as well here and our friend's school was burnt down we saw fires burning in the streets like 189 00:19:48.240 --> 00:19:52.560 you know the neighbors would taunt us over the fence tonight they're coming for you you know so 190 00:19:52.560 --> 00:19:59.120 we really um and most of the leaders and christian community from this town kind of left and went to 191 00:19:59.120 --> 00:19:59.760 safer places 192 00:20:00.000 --> 00:20:02.200 But because we had kids, we stayed, 193 00:20:02.200 --> 00:20:04.840 we made praise in those days that were really, really deep. 194 00:20:04.840 --> 00:20:09.840 It's like we were looking at eternity in those days 195 00:20:10.000 --> 00:20:12.000 because people were getting killed 196 00:20:12.000 --> 00:20:15.320 and we were already had been attacked and we were known. 197 00:20:15.320 --> 00:20:19.480 So we were broken. 198 00:20:19.480 --> 00:20:21.000 I can't say fear hit us 199 00:20:21.000 --> 00:20:24.560 because we were kind of growing in the Lord, 200 00:20:24.560 --> 00:20:27.920 but there was tension, there was real tension. 201 00:20:27.960 --> 00:20:31.240 One day we saw bikes racing towards us 202 00:20:31.240 --> 00:20:34.080 and the next village, which is a Christian village, 203 00:20:34.080 --> 00:20:36.160 all the young men ran out with swords 204 00:20:36.160 --> 00:20:37.880 and spears and pieces of wood. 205 00:20:37.880 --> 00:20:40.840 And they actually buffeted and stopped this gang 206 00:20:40.840 --> 00:20:43.160 that was coming towards us and the village. 207 00:20:43.160 --> 00:20:45.840 So it was tough, guys. 208 00:20:45.840 --> 00:20:46.680 It was tough. 209 00:20:47.640 --> 00:20:48.480 Yeah. 210 00:20:48.480 --> 00:20:52.520 But I've heard you talk about this, Benji, 211 00:20:53.640 --> 00:20:55.440 that when things get tough, 212 00:20:55.440 --> 00:20:57.240 things can actually shift and change. 213 00:20:57.640 --> 00:21:01.880 I think no one knew about this land of Orissa much, 214 00:21:02.920 --> 00:21:05.480 but there was international prayer 215 00:21:05.480 --> 00:21:06.960 going on around the world. 216 00:21:06.960 --> 00:21:08.160 It was like prayer going up 217 00:21:08.160 --> 00:21:10.240 because so many people were being killed. 218 00:21:14.960 --> 00:21:19.320 Since that time, there was this email forwarded around 219 00:21:19.320 --> 00:21:22.000 about being praying for these Christians in Orissa 220 00:21:22.000 --> 00:21:23.720 who were about to be executed. 221 00:21:23.720 --> 00:21:25.920 I think it's still doing the rounds. 222 00:21:25.920 --> 00:21:27.760 Sometimes someone just gets it and they're like, 223 00:21:27.760 --> 00:21:30.200 oh my gosh, and they forwarded on this prayer 224 00:21:30.200 --> 00:21:33.640 for Christians in Orissa who were about to get executed. 225 00:21:33.640 --> 00:21:35.560 Even probably not that long ago, 226 00:21:35.560 --> 00:21:37.800 I got it again as a Facebook message saying, 227 00:21:37.800 --> 00:21:38.640 please pray. 228 00:21:38.640 --> 00:21:40.840 I was like, yeah, that was a little while ago, 229 00:21:40.840 --> 00:21:42.040 but keep praying. 230 00:21:42.960 --> 00:21:47.520 So yeah, so they've really definitely done the rounds 231 00:21:47.520 --> 00:21:48.480 on the prayers. 232 00:21:48.480 --> 00:21:50.880 It's been going around the world for years. 233 00:21:50.880 --> 00:21:53.800 So definitely people have been praying for Orissa 234 00:21:53.800 --> 00:21:57.560 and those really horrendous season of events. 235 00:21:58.480 --> 00:21:59.320 Amazing. 236 00:21:59.320 --> 00:22:03.240 So I believe that that international prayer focus, 237 00:22:03.240 --> 00:22:07.000 because prayer is the vehicle for huge power. 238 00:22:07.000 --> 00:22:09.360 So the prayer focus for Orissa 239 00:22:09.360 --> 00:22:12.480 began to create opportunities. 240 00:22:12.480 --> 00:22:16.000 And a little time after that, 241 00:22:17.320 --> 00:22:19.600 I went up to rescue a tank 242 00:22:19.600 --> 00:22:20.720 that was being blown off the roof 243 00:22:20.720 --> 00:22:22.800 and I fell off the roof and broke my leg. 244 00:22:22.800 --> 00:22:25.800 And so I was immobilized for three months, 245 00:22:25.800 --> 00:22:26.720 just in a cast. 246 00:22:26.720 --> 00:22:29.960 And with all the pressure we were broken, 247 00:22:29.960 --> 00:22:31.680 we were just feeling so, 248 00:22:31.680 --> 00:22:32.960 should we go back to New Zealand? 249 00:22:32.960 --> 00:22:36.160 Should we go back to South where it's much easier? 250 00:22:36.160 --> 00:22:40.520 So every day, multiple times a day, 251 00:22:40.520 --> 00:22:42.960 we'd go and sit up on the roof that I fell from 252 00:22:42.960 --> 00:22:44.960 and just began to pray. 253 00:22:44.960 --> 00:22:47.240 And our children began to gather with us 254 00:22:47.240 --> 00:22:50.120 and they would kind of carry my Bible up on thing, 255 00:22:50.120 --> 00:22:51.200 the guitar up on the roof. 256 00:22:51.200 --> 00:22:52.520 And we just began to pray 257 00:22:53.240 --> 00:22:54.080 and we began to sing 258 00:22:54.080 --> 00:22:55.360 and we, because there were no schools, 259 00:22:55.360 --> 00:22:56.960 schools weren't operating then. 260 00:22:56.960 --> 00:22:58.160 And we had more time on our hands 261 00:22:58.160 --> 00:23:00.400 and I'm usually quite a busy guy doing all sorts of stuff, 262 00:23:00.400 --> 00:23:01.640 but I was immobilized. 263 00:23:01.640 --> 00:23:04.160 So I just spent more time in prayer focus. 264 00:23:04.160 --> 00:23:06.520 So, you know, the more we prayed, 265 00:23:06.520 --> 00:23:07.840 the more freedom that came 266 00:23:07.840 --> 00:23:10.400 and many kids had come to us from the persecuted zones 267 00:23:10.400 --> 00:23:11.240 and they were broken, 268 00:23:11.240 --> 00:23:12.400 they were worried about their family. 269 00:23:12.400 --> 00:23:16.200 So, you know, a joy began to come, 270 00:23:16.200 --> 00:23:18.520 a freedom, a tangible presence of God 271 00:23:18.520 --> 00:23:19.680 began to come as we prayed. 272 00:23:19.680 --> 00:23:22.080 Creative songs began to come 273 00:23:22.640 --> 00:23:26.120 and the Lord gave me a Bible verse 274 00:23:26.120 --> 00:23:29.240 that became the pivotal verse for our journey. 275 00:23:29.240 --> 00:23:30.920 It refocused us. 276 00:23:30.920 --> 00:23:33.680 It took our focus off, you know, 277 00:23:33.680 --> 00:23:35.000 the hard things that were happening, 278 00:23:35.000 --> 00:23:36.280 the evil things that were happening 279 00:23:36.280 --> 00:23:38.880 and it put our focus on heaven. 280 00:23:38.880 --> 00:23:41.920 And so it's Ephesians chapter one and verse 10, 281 00:23:41.920 --> 00:23:45.240 a time to come where all things in heaven 282 00:23:45.240 --> 00:23:50.000 and on the earth will unite together under one head Christ. 283 00:23:50.000 --> 00:23:52.960 That whole, that just like sparked in me, 284 00:23:52.960 --> 00:23:56.200 sparked in us like something, the Lord was on it. 285 00:23:56.200 --> 00:23:58.600 The whole thing of uniting heaven and earth 286 00:23:58.600 --> 00:23:59.880 through Christ Jesus, 287 00:23:59.880 --> 00:24:01.320 as we realized that that was probably speaking 288 00:24:01.320 --> 00:24:03.040 about a time in the future, 289 00:24:03.040 --> 00:24:03.960 but just the whole thing, 290 00:24:03.960 --> 00:24:06.080 now, come on, let's see how much of heaven 291 00:24:06.080 --> 00:24:08.720 we can get in our life now. 292 00:24:08.720 --> 00:24:13.720 That's the second time that verse has been quoted today. 293 00:24:13.720 --> 00:24:15.880 Boyd quoted that verse earlier 294 00:24:15.880 --> 00:24:17.600 and it was very, very beautiful. 295 00:24:17.600 --> 00:24:19.160 So having that come up again today 296 00:24:19.880 --> 00:24:23.000 is a fantastic, fantastic moment. 297 00:24:23.000 --> 00:24:23.840 What a verse. 298 00:24:25.440 --> 00:24:27.920 The whole thing of the union of both realms, 299 00:24:27.920 --> 00:24:30.640 that the reconciliation of both realms, 300 00:24:30.640 --> 00:24:33.200 the joining together of both realms, 301 00:24:33.200 --> 00:24:36.920 the perfect heaven and this broken earth, 302 00:24:36.920 --> 00:24:39.840 you know, from Eden where things were an open heaven 303 00:24:39.840 --> 00:24:43.400 to the end of the revelation with finally 304 00:24:43.400 --> 00:24:46.120 the dwelling of God, the habitation of God is with man, 305 00:24:46.120 --> 00:24:48.080 knowing God's beginning and end, 306 00:24:48.080 --> 00:24:50.600 but we're in this tough, tough land middle spot 307 00:24:50.600 --> 00:24:53.200 where things are not looking good. 308 00:24:53.200 --> 00:24:55.040 So, yeah, and the more we prayed, 309 00:24:55.040 --> 00:24:57.720 the more this presence began to manifest. 310 00:24:57.720 --> 00:25:00.720 And you imagine the praise from all around the world as well. 311 00:25:00.000 --> 00:25:02.400 It's like waiting for a place to download. 312 00:25:02.400 --> 00:25:05.340 And Benji, joy began to break out. 313 00:25:05.340 --> 00:25:08.200 Just joy, the after joy. 314 00:25:11.320 --> 00:25:14.200 Yeah, the kids, you know, I've got memories in my head 315 00:25:14.200 --> 00:25:16.520 of the kids like sweeping the cow shed floor, 316 00:25:16.520 --> 00:25:19.440 you know, like cow dung and straw, 317 00:25:19.440 --> 00:25:23.200 and just like being overwhelmed by the presence of God 318 00:25:23.200 --> 00:25:25.560 and rolling, holding their bellies in joy, 319 00:25:25.560 --> 00:25:28.280 like just rolling in all the dirt. 320 00:25:28.320 --> 00:25:30.280 You know, girls sweeping the front yard 321 00:25:30.280 --> 00:25:33.160 and just collapsing in a bundle of joy 322 00:25:33.160 --> 00:25:36.120 and rolling on the ground and then folding clothes. 323 00:25:36.120 --> 00:25:38.440 I remember one day folding clothes on the bed 324 00:25:38.440 --> 00:25:40.080 and all of a sudden one sister, 325 00:25:40.080 --> 00:25:41.280 she got overwhelmed with joy. 326 00:25:41.280 --> 00:25:46.160 So joy began to come with the tangible presence of God. 327 00:25:46.160 --> 00:25:49.880 And it, this went on for three months. 328 00:25:49.880 --> 00:25:53.600 The Lord gave songs, songs became such a key thing. 329 00:25:53.600 --> 00:25:55.720 Just, they became, 330 00:25:55.720 --> 00:25:57.920 I think we entered into the divine dance, Benji. 331 00:25:58.560 --> 00:26:00.160 You speak so powerfully into that. 332 00:26:00.160 --> 00:26:02.520 I think we entered into the divine dance. 333 00:26:02.520 --> 00:26:05.840 That the scripture focused on heaven, 334 00:26:05.840 --> 00:26:08.880 like an intense focus on heaven, like never before. 335 00:26:08.880 --> 00:26:12.480 And singing and dancing, dancing would break out. 336 00:26:12.480 --> 00:26:14.400 And so prayer would usually be half an hour, 337 00:26:14.400 --> 00:26:15.240 morning and night. 338 00:26:15.240 --> 00:26:17.400 It's always what we do in India. 339 00:26:17.400 --> 00:26:21.200 And, but the prayer meetings would go on for hours 340 00:26:21.200 --> 00:26:24.480 and the kids would dance, like culturally Christians, 341 00:26:24.480 --> 00:26:26.840 like dancing is considered to be, you know, 342 00:26:26.840 --> 00:26:28.160 a bit of a no-go, 343 00:26:28.160 --> 00:26:31.000 but the kids would break out in their tribal dances, 344 00:26:31.000 --> 00:26:32.080 you know, in his presence, 345 00:26:32.080 --> 00:26:35.760 and just like read that deep stuff within them. 346 00:26:35.760 --> 00:26:39.360 And the singing, the dancing, the focus on heaven, 347 00:26:39.360 --> 00:26:43.440 the joy, the peace, it was like walking in. 348 00:26:43.440 --> 00:26:44.280 What it was like? 349 00:26:44.280 --> 00:26:45.200 It was getting rich. 350 00:26:45.200 --> 00:26:46.320 It was getting strong. 351 00:26:47.840 --> 00:26:51.400 So 21st of October, 2009, 352 00:26:51.400 --> 00:26:53.000 Andrea hits me in the morning. 353 00:26:53.000 --> 00:26:54.680 Angels, angels are in the room. 354 00:26:54.680 --> 00:26:57.200 And so she has a really clear, 355 00:26:57.200 --> 00:26:59.720 open vision of angels in the room. 356 00:26:59.720 --> 00:27:03.520 And then that afternoon, one of our sisters- 357 00:27:03.520 --> 00:27:05.000 Did you say 21st? 358 00:27:05.000 --> 00:27:06.440 I just wanted to make sure I got that data. 359 00:27:06.440 --> 00:27:08.280 I wanted to lock it in my mind. 360 00:27:08.280 --> 00:27:11.320 Yeah, 21st of October, 2009. 361 00:27:11.320 --> 00:27:12.560 Okay. 362 00:27:12.560 --> 00:27:14.120 So we're talking about, you know- 363 00:27:14.120 --> 00:27:15.320 Yeah. 364 00:27:15.320 --> 00:27:18.040 Yeah, over a decade ago, 12 years ago. 365 00:27:19.640 --> 00:27:22.680 One of our sisters felt this very strong tingling 366 00:27:23.360 --> 00:27:26.120 and buzzing, the same tingling you're talking about, Benji. 367 00:27:26.120 --> 00:27:29.240 And she just like was drawn into her room. 368 00:27:29.240 --> 00:27:32.920 And she just got on her knees and she said, 369 00:27:32.920 --> 00:27:34.960 Lord, I don't want to see angels. 370 00:27:34.960 --> 00:27:36.360 I want to see you. 371 00:27:36.360 --> 00:27:38.080 She closes her eyes. 372 00:27:38.080 --> 00:27:41.320 She opens her eyes, but she's not in the room. 373 00:27:41.320 --> 00:27:42.640 She's in another place. 374 00:27:42.640 --> 00:27:45.040 A beautiful, beautiful garden. 375 00:27:45.040 --> 00:27:46.520 Beautiful garden. 376 00:27:46.520 --> 00:27:51.400 She was actually there with, you know, full faculty, 377 00:27:51.400 --> 00:27:53.360 just like we're in the space now. 378 00:27:53.360 --> 00:27:55.120 It was so real for her. 379 00:27:55.120 --> 00:27:57.360 And beside her, in front of her, 380 00:27:57.360 --> 00:28:00.000 was this pillar of light, 381 00:28:00.000 --> 00:28:04.160 rainbow colored that was swirling and buzzing. 382 00:28:04.160 --> 00:28:07.240 And this beautiful voice came from the pillar and said, 383 00:28:07.240 --> 00:28:08.640 welcome to my kingdom. 384 00:28:08.640 --> 00:28:11.320 And it was a manifestation of the Holy Spirit to her. 385 00:28:11.320 --> 00:28:14.080 And that same manifestation has been with her 386 00:28:14.080 --> 00:28:17.440 day and night, eyes open since then. 387 00:28:17.440 --> 00:28:18.280 Whoa. 388 00:28:19.160 --> 00:28:20.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 389 00:28:20.000 --> 00:28:21.600 And what's so interesting about that girl, 390 00:28:21.600 --> 00:28:22.440 when she grew up, 391 00:28:22.440 --> 00:28:24.800 she was like scared of talking about the Holy Spirit 392 00:28:24.800 --> 00:28:26.480 because a visiting preacher had said, 393 00:28:26.480 --> 00:28:29.440 if you blaspheme the Holy Spirit, you'll go to hell, 394 00:28:29.440 --> 00:28:30.280 you know? 395 00:28:30.280 --> 00:28:32.880 So she just like was so scared of even saying his name, 396 00:28:32.880 --> 00:28:34.400 saying, yeah. 397 00:28:34.400 --> 00:28:37.520 So the Holy Spirit has been her personal companion, 398 00:28:37.520 --> 00:28:41.360 like the Holy Spirit descended upon the form of love. 399 00:28:41.360 --> 00:28:43.480 Yes, the Holy Spirit has manifested to Joe 400 00:28:43.480 --> 00:28:47.120 and to our community in the form of a pillar of light. 401 00:28:47.120 --> 00:28:49.880 Of course, we have Old Testament pillar of fire by day 402 00:28:50.760 --> 00:28:52.920 and a pillar of fire by night and a pillar of cloud by day. 403 00:28:52.920 --> 00:28:54.760 Oh, come on. 404 00:28:54.760 --> 00:28:57.480 The next day we were having prayer 405 00:28:57.480 --> 00:29:00.520 and the presence of God was getting so strong. 406 00:29:00.520 --> 00:29:03.240 In the room, singing and praising and dancing 407 00:29:03.240 --> 00:29:08.240 and a bunch of girls just on the ground 408 00:29:08.280 --> 00:29:13.080 and joy, laughing, rolling. 409 00:29:13.080 --> 00:29:17.760 They, it was about 20 minutes, we continued to pray. 410 00:29:19.880 --> 00:29:21.840 They opened their eyes together 411 00:29:21.840 --> 00:29:25.760 and they all told the most amazing story 412 00:29:25.760 --> 00:29:28.680 that as they were dancing and praising, 413 00:29:28.680 --> 00:29:32.240 the whole room went bright, bright light. 414 00:29:32.240 --> 00:29:33.960 And out of the bright light 415 00:29:33.960 --> 00:29:36.880 came these beautiful, beautiful people. 416 00:29:36.880 --> 00:29:39.240 And they had wings and they were beautifully dressed 417 00:29:39.240 --> 00:29:41.680 and they could see the faces with such detail. 418 00:29:41.680 --> 00:29:44.600 They could see the wings and the feathers. 419 00:29:44.600 --> 00:29:46.400 It wasn't just like a blur of light, 420 00:29:46.400 --> 00:29:48.120 it was actually like full. 421 00:29:49.120 --> 00:29:51.600 And these angels, they looked down, 422 00:29:51.600 --> 00:29:52.720 they could see their bodies, 423 00:29:52.720 --> 00:29:54.040 their physical bodies on the ground. 424 00:29:54.040 --> 00:29:54.880 And they looked at each other 425 00:29:54.880 --> 00:29:56.760 and they had different kinds of bodies. 426 00:29:56.760 --> 00:29:58.040 They were shining, they were glowing, 427 00:29:58.040 --> 00:29:59.680 they were beautifully dressed. 428 00:30:00.000 --> 00:30:07.440 came alongside of them, they linked their arms and they leapt and they flew with great speed. 429 00:30:07.440 --> 00:30:13.200 There was a bright, bright light, brilliant light. They flew into the light and all of a sudden they 430 00:30:13.200 --> 00:30:19.200 landed on their feet and they were also standing in a beautiful, beautiful garden with brilliantly 431 00:30:19.200 --> 00:30:26.800 colored green grass, all manicured trees, leaves of all different colors, fruit on the trees. 432 00:30:27.360 --> 00:30:34.800 And one of the girls said to the angel, what is this place? And the angel said, this is paradise, 433 00:30:34.800 --> 00:30:39.440 this is the garden of God. And that night they ate fruit like anything. They ate fruit, they'd 434 00:30:39.440 --> 00:30:45.760 known they eat fruit they didn't know. And then they went to a river and they walked on the water, 435 00:30:45.760 --> 00:30:50.640 Benji, they walked on the water and they went under the water and they could breathe under 436 00:30:50.640 --> 00:30:54.960 the water with fish and all that stuff. They danced, they celebrated, they praised, 437 00:30:54.960 --> 00:31:01.680 there were other children. And then the angel said, come on, it's time to go. And they 438 00:31:01.680 --> 00:31:05.600 movement again. And all of a sudden they appeared, they were back in their bodies. 439 00:31:05.600 --> 00:31:12.400 So for them, it was like, it wasn't just an internal vision, they actually left their bodies 440 00:31:12.400 --> 00:31:19.520 and they were caught up into heaven. And there they were beautifully dressed. They had bodies 441 00:31:19.520 --> 00:31:25.280 that could eat, that could fly, that could do whatever they thought to do and spoke to do. 442 00:31:25.920 --> 00:31:32.640 So anyway, they came back down, we heard that testimony and we were just like, what is that? 443 00:31:33.440 --> 00:31:41.120 And Benji, that same experience has gone on pretty much every day for 12 years. 444 00:31:42.080 --> 00:31:42.580 Wow. 445 00:31:48.640 --> 00:31:57.520 So what happened was basically a portal opened over our campus and a beautiful, beautiful 446 00:31:58.160 --> 00:32:08.640 tunnel of light from our campus up into heaven itself, where the flow of heavenly life is 447 00:32:09.280 --> 00:32:21.600 just so beautiful and easy. And so now, behind the veil in this campus, it's three acres, 448 00:32:21.600 --> 00:32:28.160 behind the veil, it's not like three acres, it's like 30 acres. And it's actually, the kids have 449 00:32:28.160 --> 00:32:34.000 told me this hundreds of times, there are trees have been planted spiritually behind the veil, 450 00:32:34.000 --> 00:32:43.680 there are trees planted, there are butterflies, there are creatures walking about, there are 451 00:32:43.680 --> 00:32:50.640 angels in trees, there are angels moving, walking with people, there are angels flying up and down. 452 00:32:51.440 --> 00:32:57.680 So it really is an open heaven, there's a river flowing, it's full of treasure, it's full of 453 00:32:57.680 --> 00:33:04.160 beautiful stones and treasures that have come out of heaven. So it is actually a union of the two 454 00:33:04.160 --> 00:33:09.520 realms have actually joined together in this three-acre campus and that light, that radiance, 455 00:33:09.520 --> 00:33:19.280 that glory of God has actually shone out into this town and into this whole land. And it's not just 456 00:33:20.480 --> 00:33:25.440 hundreds of times I've heard the story from our children and different children that they get 457 00:33:25.440 --> 00:33:31.600 awakened and, you know, the first things they tell us is the same thing. So it's true, it's real, heaven 458 00:33:31.600 --> 00:33:39.200 is real, Jesus is real, he is the king of glory, we're not issuing a man-made thing, it's absolutely 459 00:33:39.200 --> 00:33:52.480 real. So yeah, come on then, ask me something. Oh, I just love that so much. So how are you seeing that 460 00:33:53.280 --> 00:34:04.000 process of hosting an open heaven now, like how is that actually impacting your community? Are you 461 00:34:04.000 --> 00:34:10.400 seeing that shift, you know what I mean, because you host an atmosphere like that of an open heaven 462 00:34:10.400 --> 00:34:17.600 and it's tangible. What's the impact of hosting in the atmosphere of an open heaven in your community? 463 00:34:17.840 --> 00:34:27.520 So the Lord gave us many promises, you know, many things for to be outworked, like it's receiving 464 00:34:27.520 --> 00:34:35.040 a seed, a promise, you're, you know, you're big on the dreams, Benji, you're cutting edge 465 00:34:35.040 --> 00:34:40.639 on the dreams, but we understand something of what you're saying, because we too have been given 466 00:34:41.360 --> 00:34:47.040 promises, and so we've been given promises for this place to be a center of healing. 467 00:34:47.040 --> 00:34:54.320 We've seen all sorts of amazing miracles, Benji. This place to be like a hospital where people 468 00:34:54.320 --> 00:34:59.040 come in sick and walk out healed, and we've seen people come in sick and walk out healed, 469 00:34:59.040 --> 00:35:04.000 and we've seen people come in sick and walk out healed, and we've seen people come in sick and 470 00:35:00.000 --> 00:35:07.680 an amazing work where, you know, multitudes, hundreds, thousands turn to Him. 471 00:35:11.120 --> 00:35:16.320 We haven't seen the full manifestation of that yet. That's still coming, but something has been 472 00:35:16.320 --> 00:35:21.280 happening, Benji, that I can understand now why the Lord is doing it in a progression. 473 00:35:22.480 --> 00:35:26.160 You remember by the testimony that we were like, they just tried to drive us out of town, 474 00:35:26.160 --> 00:35:30.080 and there was such anger and aggression against us. We were the enemy. 475 00:35:31.840 --> 00:35:37.840 We came to a point about four years ago where we got a whole lot more kids, and we were 476 00:35:37.840 --> 00:35:43.440 financially, like, struggling. It was getting pretty tough. Our children numbers doubled. 477 00:35:43.440 --> 00:35:48.800 The government was sending kids to us. They weren't helping us, but we were, like, feeling 478 00:35:48.800 --> 00:35:54.960 the load of the extra kids coming in. And also, you know, the authorities were seeing us with 479 00:35:54.960 --> 00:36:01.280 favor. And so, they were sending us women that were having needs, that were being trafficked, 480 00:36:01.280 --> 00:36:05.360 that were being in child marriages and stuff. So, anyway, the numbers were increasing. 481 00:36:08.720 --> 00:36:14.160 I did a message on Father, send the camels, Isaiah chapter 60, the camels of Midian, 482 00:36:14.160 --> 00:36:20.240 you know, bringing the blessings and the gold and the frankincense and myrrh, the spices. And so, 483 00:36:20.240 --> 00:36:24.480 I gave a message, Father, send the camels, Father, send the camels. It became our daily prayer. 484 00:36:25.360 --> 00:36:31.680 And, you know, we began to see something quite strange happen, something quite unusual, 485 00:36:31.680 --> 00:36:36.960 that people from the other community in our hometown began to come, and they began to bring 486 00:36:36.960 --> 00:36:44.320 blessings, especially food. And, you know, over the last four years, I just did a count, 487 00:36:47.520 --> 00:36:52.720 over a thousand meals for our kids have come from the outside community, 488 00:36:52.720 --> 00:36:58.000 between five and 10,000 people have come, because it's not just one or two will come, 489 00:36:58.000 --> 00:37:01.920 they'll come with a family, they'll come with a whole team, sometimes 100 will come, 490 00:37:01.920 --> 00:37:08.800 200 will come. And these are people from other community. And, you know, these are people that 491 00:37:08.800 --> 00:37:14.640 were against us, they were, you know, and some of them are the high caste Brahmins of our town, 492 00:37:14.640 --> 00:37:19.040 and, you know, the business people, and they are coming not just bringing rough food, but this is 493 00:37:19.040 --> 00:37:26.960 like star hotel food, like the best they can bring. And our kids are just overwhelmed with 494 00:37:26.960 --> 00:37:33.840 such amazing food, and also clothing, and children's school items, that kind of stuff. 495 00:37:33.840 --> 00:37:39.920 But now we can see, now we understand, we've asked a lot about this, his presence, his presence, 496 00:37:39.920 --> 00:37:47.200 his presence in this place is drawing people in. And as they draw people in, his presence is 497 00:37:47.200 --> 00:37:53.440 nourishing them, and blessing them. And as they give opportunity, as we always pray for them in 498 00:37:53.440 --> 00:38:00.560 Jesus name, and as they open their hearts to that, the Lord is doing work in them, and healing, 499 00:38:00.560 --> 00:38:05.920 and freeing, and the angels are working around them to cut stuff off and to shift things and 500 00:38:05.920 --> 00:38:12.560 change things. So there is a, we were the enemy, now we are being favored. And our kids, they come, 501 00:38:12.560 --> 00:38:17.520 these high caste people are feeding our kids. And in the caste system, they would see our kids 502 00:38:17.520 --> 00:38:22.560 as like the low caste, the untouchables, but they are feeding our kids, they are feeding food in 503 00:38:22.560 --> 00:38:29.920 their mouths. It's such a radical shift of the worldview. And it's coming because of the drawing, 504 00:38:29.920 --> 00:38:36.640 you know, it says that no one can come to Christ because the father draws them. I understand this 505 00:38:36.640 --> 00:38:43.520 myself, because many years ago, I was on a bus, I was a part-time Hare Krishna, I was journeying 506 00:38:43.520 --> 00:38:49.600 with the Krishnas, I was studying the Bhagavad Gita, I was just fascinated by the whole, you know, 507 00:38:49.600 --> 00:38:55.600 India thing. And I was in the back of a bus traveling from Auckland to Tauranga. And I was 508 00:38:55.600 --> 00:39:01.600 chanting this mantra, I had my beads. And I saw the back of a man's head in the front of a bus. 509 00:39:02.240 --> 00:39:08.560 And I just felt compelled to go and sit next to him and talk to him, I couldn't like shake it, 510 00:39:08.560 --> 00:39:14.560 it was so heavy. I got up, I walked down the bus, sat next to him. And I said, Sir, I don't know why, 511 00:39:14.560 --> 00:39:19.840 but I really feel I need to talk to you. And I'd be just been chanting mantras to another deity. 512 00:39:20.400 --> 00:39:26.880 And he said, praise the Lord, has anyone ever told you about Jesus? And I got my first ever, 513 00:39:26.880 --> 00:39:32.960 like pure gospel message. And so I was drawn to hear that. Cornelius Factor. Cornelius was a 514 00:39:32.960 --> 00:39:40.560 God fearer, he had some knowledge of God, but the angel said that, that God has heard your prayers 515 00:39:40.560 --> 00:39:46.560 and seen your giving to the poor, and it has come up as a memorial to heaven. So that is happening 516 00:39:46.560 --> 00:39:50.960 to the people of our town, that they are coming and they're being drawn by his presence. They've 517 00:39:50.960 --> 00:39:56.000 got good hearts, they're beautiful people. They're beautiful people. And I know what the Lord is 518 00:39:56.000 --> 00:39:59.760 doing. The more they come, the more they serve us. 519 00:40:00.000 --> 00:40:04.520 serving Him, they're blessing Him, they're blessing the Lord actually, and He will reciprocate 520 00:40:04.520 --> 00:40:06.600 by giving them more of His glory. 521 00:40:06.600 --> 00:40:09.640 Jesus is the light unto all men. 522 00:40:09.640 --> 00:40:10.640 So good. 523 00:40:10.640 --> 00:40:15.320 Now, there's also some like in the context of an open heaven, you guys are seeing some 524 00:40:15.320 --> 00:40:19.640 other dynamic manifestations. 525 00:40:19.640 --> 00:40:24.880 What are you seeing in the space of people coming on that don't know Jesus, but are actually 526 00:40:24.880 --> 00:40:30.240 having physical responses to the glory of God that's there? 527 00:40:30.240 --> 00:40:31.240 Yeah. 528 00:40:31.240 --> 00:40:36.080 Many have said, what is this place? 529 00:40:36.080 --> 00:40:37.080 What is this place? 530 00:40:37.080 --> 00:40:40.960 There is so much peace here. 531 00:40:40.960 --> 00:40:50.320 Some have actually fallen over on the ground because they've been so overwhelmed by, we 532 00:40:50.320 --> 00:40:53.160 know it's His presence. 533 00:40:53.160 --> 00:40:57.760 Some can't get up from their chairs, can't leave. 534 00:40:57.760 --> 00:40:58.760 They just stay on. 535 00:40:58.760 --> 00:41:02.520 I mean, we're busy with all sorts of stuff and people are just like, hang on, hang on. 536 00:41:02.520 --> 00:41:08.000 So yeah, there is a real, that they are encountering His tangible presence. 537 00:41:08.000 --> 00:41:11.120 That's crazy. 538 00:41:11.120 --> 00:41:17.960 And miracle provision, I assume, is always happening in the same reality, right? 539 00:41:17.960 --> 00:41:25.880 I think I've heard you talk about food multiplying, gems coming back from heaven, signs and wonders 540 00:41:25.880 --> 00:41:27.560 like this. 541 00:41:27.560 --> 00:41:35.080 So we can understand from Jesus that His baptism, the heavens opened and whatever could be done 542 00:41:35.080 --> 00:41:37.000 in heaven, Jesus can now do on the earth. 543 00:41:37.000 --> 00:41:38.800 So He needed to feed the people. 544 00:41:38.800 --> 00:41:47.560 I mean, in heaven, you pick a fruit and another fruit will grow straight away. 545 00:41:47.560 --> 00:41:52.120 You think about a beautiful dish, it will just manifest. 546 00:41:52.120 --> 00:41:55.440 Heaven has got no issue with food and water. 547 00:41:55.440 --> 00:41:59.480 So when Jesus needed food, He just pulled it out of heaven. 548 00:41:59.480 --> 00:42:03.880 He just looked to the Father whenever He needed money to pay His taxes. 549 00:42:03.880 --> 00:42:10.360 I mean, there's no shortage of beautiful things in heaven, gold and silver and beautiful stones. 550 00:42:10.360 --> 00:42:12.040 It's just everywhere. 551 00:42:12.040 --> 00:42:13.040 It's just abundant. 552 00:42:13.040 --> 00:42:17.000 So when Jesus needed to walk, our kids walk on the water up there. 553 00:42:17.000 --> 00:42:19.440 Jesus needed to walk on the water because He's under an open heaven. 554 00:42:19.440 --> 00:42:20.800 There's no blockage. 555 00:42:20.800 --> 00:42:24.960 The flow was just Jesus could do whatever He needed to do as the Father was leading Him. 556 00:42:24.960 --> 00:42:26.320 Come on. 557 00:42:26.320 --> 00:42:29.280 Yeah, we have seen food multiply. 558 00:42:29.280 --> 00:42:36.880 We've seen our store jars and our kitchen not empty for many months at a time. 559 00:42:36.880 --> 00:42:39.240 You know, there's one amazing thing happened. 560 00:42:39.240 --> 00:42:42.240 We have a pond at the bottom of our land. 561 00:42:42.480 --> 00:42:48.240 So when the kids went into heaven during an afternoon prayer, Jesus told the kids, 562 00:42:49.120 --> 00:42:51.520 when you come home from school, go fishing. 563 00:42:51.520 --> 00:42:53.760 And it was at the end of the summer. 564 00:42:53.760 --> 00:43:00.800 The pond was nearly dry, like ankle deep, warm water, muddy, muddy, dirty, dirty water. 565 00:43:00.800 --> 00:43:02.240 It was just nothing. 566 00:43:02.960 --> 00:43:06.000 And we'd already pre-fished the pond for many, many weeks. 567 00:43:06.000 --> 00:43:06.800 We'd pre-fished. 568 00:43:06.800 --> 00:43:08.480 So we knew that there was nothing there. 569 00:43:08.480 --> 00:43:13.440 So Jesus told the kids, tomorrow, when you come home from school, go fishing. 570 00:43:14.480 --> 00:43:17.840 I thought, Lord, that's pretty crazy. 571 00:43:17.840 --> 00:43:18.560 There's nothing there. 572 00:43:19.200 --> 00:43:21.440 When the kids got home from school, they just ran up to us. 573 00:43:21.440 --> 00:43:21.840 Let's go. 574 00:43:21.840 --> 00:43:22.400 Let's go. 575 00:43:22.400 --> 00:43:23.760 Went down to the pond. 576 00:43:23.760 --> 00:43:26.720 And so they fished with the lady's saris, you know, the long piece of cloth. 577 00:43:26.720 --> 00:43:31.840 And so they were dragging saris round and round and mud and slush and lots of noise. 578 00:43:31.840 --> 00:43:32.560 And they came out. 579 00:43:33.200 --> 00:43:34.560 Many minutes later, we were all watching them. 580 00:43:34.560 --> 00:43:35.520 There was no fish. 581 00:43:35.520 --> 00:43:39.200 It was just small little shrimps and things that were hardy and small. 582 00:43:40.560 --> 00:43:41.520 Sticks and twigs. 583 00:43:42.240 --> 00:43:42.800 No fish. 584 00:43:43.440 --> 00:43:45.840 So the kids were really disappointed. 585 00:43:45.840 --> 00:43:47.040 We must have missed it. 586 00:43:47.040 --> 00:43:49.040 So I said, come on, right. 587 00:43:49.040 --> 00:43:50.080 So we prayed. 588 00:43:50.080 --> 00:43:52.080 And as we were praying, we heard a splash. 589 00:43:52.080 --> 00:43:57.280 And one of our boys, he dived in the water, slipped through the mud, and he pulled out this 590 00:43:58.320 --> 00:44:00.800 big fish, like big fish. 591 00:44:00.800 --> 00:44:02.000 Our kids went nuts. 592 00:44:02.720 --> 00:44:03.280 Wow. 593 00:44:03.280 --> 00:44:05.120 Started crashing through the water. 594 00:44:05.280 --> 00:44:09.840 They pulled out 24 big fish, 24 big fish. 595 00:44:10.720 --> 00:44:13.360 And so we had an amazing fish lunch that day. 596 00:44:15.520 --> 00:44:16.560 We did a heaven prayer. 597 00:44:16.560 --> 00:44:18.800 The kids went up, and he was right there to meet them. 598 00:44:18.800 --> 00:44:21.440 And he said, you know, remember what happened to Peter? 599 00:44:22.080 --> 00:44:24.800 There's always a Bible lesson and everything he says and does. 600 00:44:24.800 --> 00:44:26.160 He reads the scripture. 601 00:44:27.120 --> 00:44:31.520 And, you know, the catch that Peter had, you know, John chapter 20. 602 00:44:31.520 --> 00:44:32.640 So things like that, Benji. 603 00:44:32.640 --> 00:44:39.120 When you're under an open heaven, so much creativity in the way that things can happen. 604 00:44:40.000 --> 00:44:41.760 Oh, man, this is so wild. 605 00:44:41.760 --> 00:44:46.000 Now, I want to tie this into some pretty radical stuff that's happening. 606 00:44:46.000 --> 00:44:49.440 But Sib was saying as well about gems. 607 00:44:49.440 --> 00:44:54.160 Talk to me about, like, the kids bringing back gems, that process that happened around that. 608 00:44:56.560 --> 00:44:59.680 So in heaven, gems, stones. 609 00:45:00.000 --> 00:45:02.640 We know from the scriptures, the streets are made of gold, 610 00:45:02.640 --> 00:45:04.600 the beautiful houses, the mansions, 611 00:45:04.600 --> 00:45:09.600 are all sorts of metals and woods and stuff. 612 00:45:11.480 --> 00:45:14.520 There's no shortage of wealth in heaven. 613 00:45:14.520 --> 00:45:17.360 The kids would, they started off, you know, 614 00:45:17.360 --> 00:45:19.160 trying to bring down fruit for us, 615 00:45:19.160 --> 00:45:22.320 because they'd, you know, eat beautiful fruit 616 00:45:22.320 --> 00:45:24.240 and they'd hold it in their hands 617 00:45:24.240 --> 00:45:25.400 and try to bring it down. 618 00:45:25.400 --> 00:45:26.960 We've actually seen kids, 619 00:45:26.960 --> 00:45:30.400 one boy actually hit another boy on his return 620 00:45:30.400 --> 00:45:31.720 in the natural, because he said, 621 00:45:31.720 --> 00:45:33.160 you stole my banana, 622 00:45:33.160 --> 00:45:36.320 because he was so expectant that it should be in his hand 623 00:45:36.320 --> 00:45:38.040 when he came down. 624 00:45:38.040 --> 00:45:42.040 So as they went from the garden areas 625 00:45:42.040 --> 00:45:44.880 into the dwelling areas 626 00:45:44.880 --> 00:45:47.840 and then into the community city areas, 627 00:45:47.840 --> 00:45:49.880 they began to see more and more of the treasures 628 00:45:49.880 --> 00:45:51.200 and they would hold in heaven 629 00:45:51.200 --> 00:45:56.200 these beautiful precious stones and heaven stones. 630 00:45:56.200 --> 00:45:57.400 And they would be big. 631 00:45:57.400 --> 00:45:58.840 They would be big, beautifully cut, 632 00:45:58.840 --> 00:46:00.200 glowing with the glory of God, 633 00:46:00.200 --> 00:46:02.280 all different colors and shapes and sizes. 634 00:46:03.400 --> 00:46:07.360 And, you know, they really tried to bring those down. 635 00:46:10.240 --> 00:46:14.160 They took a bit of a petition back to Jesus and said, 636 00:46:14.160 --> 00:46:16.000 how come we can't bring these things down? 637 00:46:16.000 --> 00:46:20.040 And Jesus said, just keep praying, one day they will. 638 00:46:20.040 --> 00:46:22.120 Just keep praying, one day they will. 639 00:46:22.120 --> 00:46:25.360 So, you know, Benji, I've told you this before, 640 00:46:25.400 --> 00:46:27.480 but the prayer went on for two years. 641 00:46:27.480 --> 00:46:28.840 The kids are going to heaven every day, 642 00:46:28.840 --> 00:46:30.960 but we continue to pray on the earth, 643 00:46:30.960 --> 00:46:35.160 as well as in heaven for the manifestation of stones. 644 00:46:35.160 --> 00:46:36.280 Yeah, two years. 645 00:46:36.280 --> 00:46:38.200 I mean, that's birthing a promise, yeah? 646 00:46:38.200 --> 00:46:39.040 Yeah. 647 00:46:39.880 --> 00:46:41.240 It's like sticking at it. 648 00:46:42.200 --> 00:46:45.480 So one night in the worship hall, 649 00:46:45.480 --> 00:46:47.520 amazing heaven prayers going on 650 00:46:47.520 --> 00:46:49.880 and we're cleaning up afterwards. 651 00:46:49.880 --> 00:46:54.880 And one of the girls sweeps up two stones, 652 00:46:55.360 --> 00:46:57.160 like looking like diamonds. 653 00:46:58.320 --> 00:46:59.680 And, you know, in India, 654 00:46:59.680 --> 00:47:02.040 people have got bangles and jewelry and stuff. 655 00:47:02.040 --> 00:47:04.240 And so I thought was, ah, you know, 656 00:47:04.240 --> 00:47:07.280 maybe this has fallen off someone's jewelry. 657 00:47:08.400 --> 00:47:10.760 So I thought, let's just, I put it in my safe. 658 00:47:10.760 --> 00:47:13.360 I put these two stones in my safe. 659 00:47:13.360 --> 00:47:15.520 No one could get in there except me. 660 00:47:15.520 --> 00:47:18.520 I had the sense to go back in and see, 661 00:47:18.520 --> 00:47:20.000 a couple of months later, actually, 662 00:47:20.000 --> 00:47:23.200 I opened up the safe and there were three stones. 663 00:47:23.200 --> 00:47:26.880 I definitely put in two and then there was three. 664 00:47:26.880 --> 00:47:28.720 And it wasn't long after that, 665 00:47:28.720 --> 00:47:30.520 that we were doing prayer in this room, 666 00:47:30.520 --> 00:47:32.280 this room that I'm sitting in now, 667 00:47:32.280 --> 00:47:37.280 where our daughter, Chrisley, we were watching her. 668 00:47:37.920 --> 00:47:41.840 Now what happens in our world is our kids go into trances. 669 00:47:41.840 --> 00:47:42.960 Their eyes are closed, 670 00:47:42.960 --> 00:47:46.760 but they physically outwork what they are doing in heaven. 671 00:47:46.760 --> 00:47:49.360 So we can get a pretty good idea of where they are, 672 00:47:49.360 --> 00:47:51.000 what they're doing by their conversation 673 00:47:51.000 --> 00:47:52.120 and by their actions. 674 00:47:53.520 --> 00:47:58.520 So Chrisley, we saw her plucking something off a wall. 675 00:47:59.400 --> 00:48:01.960 She came over to Andrea, my wife, 676 00:48:01.960 --> 00:48:04.080 and she said, mum, this is from Jesus. 677 00:48:04.080 --> 00:48:05.240 And she opened her hand 678 00:48:05.240 --> 00:48:09.080 and there was a beautiful stone in her hand. 679 00:48:09.080 --> 00:48:10.000 Wow. 680 00:48:10.000 --> 00:48:13.400 And Andrea took it. 681 00:48:13.400 --> 00:48:17.520 And yeah, then she closed her hand again 682 00:48:17.520 --> 00:48:20.120 and she opened her hand right in front of their eyes 683 00:48:20.120 --> 00:48:22.800 and there was another stone, yeah. 684 00:48:23.400 --> 00:48:28.400 So right before our eyes, we saw a... 685 00:48:31.280 --> 00:48:32.600 I'm just grabbing one here. 686 00:48:32.600 --> 00:48:33.880 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 687 00:48:33.880 --> 00:48:34.920 Oh, come on. 688 00:48:35.960 --> 00:48:36.800 Come on. 689 00:48:39.840 --> 00:48:41.680 Like this size. 690 00:48:41.680 --> 00:48:42.520 Yeah. 691 00:48:45.000 --> 00:48:49.120 And right before our eyes, we saw two stones manifest. 692 00:48:49.120 --> 00:48:51.320 And once that started, then it was just, 693 00:48:51.320 --> 00:48:53.440 it was all on. 694 00:48:53.440 --> 00:48:57.600 And there was a hundred, there was hundreds, 695 00:48:57.600 --> 00:48:59.720 there was then even thousands. 696 00:48:59.720 --> 00:49:00.560 Wow. 697 00:49:00.560 --> 00:49:03.760 And all different shapes, sizes and colors. 698 00:49:03.760 --> 00:49:06.640 You know, this was from another world. 699 00:49:06.640 --> 00:49:08.800 This was from another world. 700 00:49:08.800 --> 00:49:10.120 And this was from heaven. 701 00:49:10.120 --> 00:49:13.560 This was once a spiritual thing. 702 00:49:13.560 --> 00:49:17.120 This was once a spiritual thing, but now it's natural. 703 00:49:17.120 --> 00:49:20.800 And each stone mean, it means something. 704 00:49:21.080 --> 00:49:22.040 This is a square. 705 00:49:22.040 --> 00:49:24.160 It means the four corners of the earth. 706 00:49:24.160 --> 00:49:26.960 And even through this zoo, this testimony goes out 707 00:49:26.960 --> 00:49:28.360 probably to the four corners of the earth. 708 00:49:28.360 --> 00:49:31.080 So it just opened up. 709 00:49:31.080 --> 00:49:34.080 And many people would say to us that this is, 710 00:49:35.120 --> 00:49:37.840 I mean, this kind of stuff triggers all the orphanness, 711 00:49:37.840 --> 00:49:39.720 Benji, you can imagine. 712 00:49:42.240 --> 00:49:44.240 This stuff will turn you away from God, 713 00:49:44.240 --> 00:49:46.600 not turn you to God, but no, that didn't happen for us. 714 00:49:46.600 --> 00:49:49.800 It just gave us such a love and fascination 715 00:49:49.840 --> 00:49:51.080 for God and the glory of God. 716 00:49:51.080 --> 00:49:55.600 And yeah, heaven's real. 717 00:49:55.600 --> 00:49:57.080 Man, it's so beautiful. 718 00:49:57.080 --> 00:50:00.120 And here's what I want to tie it into in terms of. 719 00:50:00.000 --> 00:50:09.320 Kingdom business, right? Especially following on from the some of the sessions that we've had, 720 00:50:09.320 --> 00:50:19.680 we're talking about the significance of mastering economics in the context of discipling nations. 721 00:50:19.680 --> 00:50:30.840 And we've been talking about the urgency that we have upon us right now, the urgency that we have 722 00:50:30.840 --> 00:50:41.160 to ensure that we have a free economy, ensure that we don't have a, you know, like what China has is 723 00:50:41.160 --> 00:50:46.960 a centralized economy attached to a credit system that if you don't have, if you're, you know, 724 00:50:46.960 --> 00:50:51.520 for example, you stand for Jesus, they can say, hey, that's naughty, we don't stand for Jesus, 725 00:50:51.520 --> 00:50:57.560 we don't have the same values as us, so we will punish you, we've just deleted all of your money, 726 00:50:57.560 --> 00:51:11.200 gone just like that. So we've been talking about that the urgency that there is to ensure that we 727 00:51:11.200 --> 00:51:18.520 have economic systems. Now, everyone's talking about the blockchain, which is fantastic. And I 728 00:51:18.520 --> 00:51:23.920 love that. And we're going after that very much. But in terms of kingdom business, I want to 729 00:51:23.920 --> 00:51:32.800 suggest that one of the biggest shifts that we are going to see in kingdom business is not actually 730 00:51:32.800 --> 00:51:37.680 going to be the blockchain. Now, that's huge. We've talked about actually, we've talked about in the 731 00:51:37.680 --> 00:51:43.600 last session, about making Revelation 13 and anticlimax, right? The Revelation 13 is the mark 732 00:51:43.600 --> 00:51:47.600 of the beast. And if you don't get that, you don't get that chip or whatever it is, then you get 733 00:51:47.600 --> 00:51:54.080 kicked out of the economy. But we were just talking about how, what if God thought that the economy was 734 00:51:54.080 --> 00:51:59.040 already corrupt and dysfunctional, and nowhere near what nowhere near as effective or as good as 735 00:51:59.040 --> 00:52:04.400 what he had in store for us. And he really wanted us to unsubscribe from that economy. Now we've been 736 00:52:04.400 --> 00:52:12.080 talking about in the natural unsubscribing from the economic system and creating new systems and 737 00:52:12.080 --> 00:52:18.000 subscribing to those. But what I want to suggest is that one of the biggest mindset shifts that's 738 00:52:18.000 --> 00:52:27.040 coming that God wants us to wake up to is learning how to also unsubscribe from our regular, natural 739 00:52:27.120 --> 00:52:38.080 minded economic systems, and learn how to subscribe to the economics of heaven, which are really along 740 00:52:38.080 --> 00:52:43.120 the lines of what we're talking about with Todd yesterday. They are the economics is exactly what 741 00:52:43.120 --> 00:52:50.480 you're talking about here, the economics of being able to reach into another dimension, and manifest 742 00:52:50.480 --> 00:52:56.160 right here in the earth, everything you need. It's what Jesus did, what you're just talking about Jesus 743 00:52:56.160 --> 00:53:06.960 manifested loaves and fishes. Now, that to me, is another dimension of a heavenly economy that will 744 00:53:06.960 --> 00:53:12.080 make something like Revelation 13, you're not Oh, no, you're gonna, we're gonna cut off your, you 745 00:53:12.080 --> 00:53:18.400 won't be able to buy and sell, you don't need to buy and sell. If you subscribe to a higher dimension, 746 00:53:18.400 --> 00:53:28.160 where you can actually supernaturally manifest substance, items, tangible things out of heaven. 747 00:53:28.160 --> 00:53:33.600 And, you know, you said, you took two years to get that breakthrough to start bringing gems in, 748 00:53:33.600 --> 00:53:38.480 but then you've had supernatural manifestations where your food lasts for months, it doesn't run 749 00:53:38.480 --> 00:53:45.920 out there. And I've heard you say as well that Jesus has shown your kids seeds. What's happening 750 00:53:45.920 --> 00:53:49.520 in that in that space? You know, what does he said? What's the story there? 751 00:53:53.920 --> 00:54:07.520 So, Benji, I just totally agree with you that our kids once saw a mountain of a mountain of grain, 752 00:54:08.080 --> 00:54:16.480 and, and the kids asked, Jesus, what is this? What is this for? And Jesus said, it's waiting 753 00:54:16.480 --> 00:54:22.320 to come down to the earth to feed my people. I just need some, some of my kids to get an 754 00:54:22.320 --> 00:54:31.120 understanding of it. So yeah, we're carrying promises for leaves on the trees for the healing 755 00:54:31.120 --> 00:54:38.160 of the nations. We've seen amazing miracles by leaves being brought down by the kids and given 756 00:54:38.160 --> 00:54:44.160 to people behind the veil and a healing takes place. Those trees are carrying, those leaves 757 00:54:44.160 --> 00:54:49.280 are carrying healing. And so we are carrying a promise just like the stones and the food 758 00:54:50.320 --> 00:54:56.480 that that leaves are also going to manifest in this place. And not only for us, but I believe 759 00:54:56.480 --> 00:54:59.760 all over the world. So you mentioned praying for someone, you know, 760 00:55:00.000 --> 00:55:05.120 praying for a sick person and a leaf just floats out of the sky and give that person to 761 00:55:05.120 --> 00:55:11.360 ingest the leaf and a healing manifests. That's happening for a spirit, gestation still needs to 762 00:55:11.360 --> 00:55:16.560 take place. Yeah, you imagine seeds Benji, the kids have heard about seeds as well, bringing 763 00:55:16.560 --> 00:55:22.400 seeds down from heaven that are pure, amen, that have not been damaged by genetic modification and 764 00:55:23.120 --> 00:55:31.520 you imagine bringing seeds down from heaven, it's all possible. Heavenly engineered seeds as well, 765 00:55:31.520 --> 00:55:36.960 you know, like I reckon heavenly engineered seeds would, you know, be the opposite of 766 00:55:36.960 --> 00:55:41.840 genetically modified seeds, you know, heavenly engineered seeds, just like the leaves, so the 767 00:55:41.840 --> 00:55:48.880 healing for the nations that give you supernatural health and well-being. It's true, we had a 768 00:55:48.880 --> 00:55:53.680 situation where the kids and Andrea worked hard to plant tomatoes, they worked hard, they had a 769 00:55:53.680 --> 00:55:59.840 beautiful plot going, they grew and as they were beginning to get the yellow flowers and little 770 00:55:59.840 --> 00:56:05.680 beginnings of tomatoes, green, they began to wilt and die and so we were really bummed out and 771 00:56:06.240 --> 00:56:13.440 really sad bit of word to use, so we sent the kids for a heaven trip right in our front yard 772 00:56:13.440 --> 00:56:18.800 where the tomato patch was, the kids went up to heaven, Andrea and I were sitting there, we were 773 00:56:18.800 --> 00:56:25.680 just being overwhelmed with a strong presence, the kids are on the ground doing their thing, when 774 00:56:25.680 --> 00:56:30.400 the kids came back they told us a testimony that Jesus was there, I know what you've come to ask, 775 00:56:30.400 --> 00:56:36.480 let's go, so Jesus came down with the kids into the campus, Andrea and I could feel the strong 776 00:56:36.480 --> 00:56:41.440 presence, the kids said he held his hands out over the tomato patch and he prayed and light 777 00:56:41.440 --> 00:56:48.640 poured from his hands into the tomato patch that was dying with a bug, a disease, we just 778 00:56:48.640 --> 00:56:53.600 praised and worshipped and thanked the Lord for that amazing testimony. I went to Delhi, came back, 779 00:56:53.600 --> 00:57:02.080 it was 10 days, I came back in 10 days and Benji, there were red tomatoes on the 780 00:57:03.040 --> 00:57:12.240 patch of red tomatoes, so not only healed but within 10 days they actually produced red tomatoes 781 00:57:12.240 --> 00:57:18.080 ready for eating, so yeah, seeds from heaven, life from heaven is like the kids will pick a banana 782 00:57:18.080 --> 00:57:23.680 in heaven, they'll peel the skin, throw the skin on the ground, straight away another banana palm 783 00:57:23.760 --> 00:57:34.800 will grow, yeah, that kind of stuff can happen, I believe, so cool, yeah, I'll just bring one more 784 00:57:34.800 --> 00:57:42.160 thought here, Sivan, then you bring it in, but yeah, I just want to thank you so much Jason, 785 00:57:42.160 --> 00:57:48.560 because while we're very much wanting to be savvy on cryptocurrencies, NFTs, 786 00:57:48.720 --> 00:57:59.440 banking, we want to be savvy on heavenly economics as well, we don't 787 00:57:59.440 --> 00:58:09.200 want this just to be, there's a great quote by the founder of 788 00:58:09.200 --> 00:58:15.840 China Inland Mission, trying to remember his name, Hudson Taylor, it says, live no ordinary life, 789 00:58:16.640 --> 00:58:22.320 live no ordinary life, and I think that this is so exciting in the space of 790 00:58:24.160 --> 00:58:30.800 where God's taking us, he's backing us into a situation where an ordinary life 791 00:58:32.000 --> 00:58:38.880 won't work, he's putting us into an impossible context, and an impossible context 792 00:58:38.880 --> 00:58:45.360 is not actually a bad thing, because it means that you get to see the impossible happen, now we're 793 00:58:45.360 --> 00:58:49.840 going to use all the wisdom we can, we're going to take all the opportunities we can, we're going to 794 00:58:49.840 --> 00:58:55.920 steward all the technology that we can, but at the same time, we want to be really conscious of where 795 00:58:55.920 --> 00:59:01.520 the real prize is in kingdom business, the real prize is the kingdom, but that's the real 796 00:59:01.520 --> 00:59:12.560 prize right there, and that kingdom is the most wonderful kingdom you could ever imagine, 797 00:59:12.560 --> 00:59:20.800 and it's real, the kingdom heaven, the kingdom of heaven is real, it's accessible, it's here, it's now, 798 00:59:20.800 --> 00:59:27.440 it's at hand, and it is a kingdom that has its own economic systems, it has its own 799 00:59:28.560 --> 00:59:34.000 structures, it's a kingdom that actually has the capacity to transcend everything that we know 800 00:59:34.720 --> 00:59:39.920 in this realm, and I just want to thank you so much, because so much of what we're talking about 801 00:59:39.920 --> 00:59:45.760 is mindset shifts, and this is one of the biggest mindset shifts for us, that we need to actually 802 00:59:45.760 --> 00:59:51.520 in our kingdom business, which we talk kingdom business, we need to actually really integrate 803 00:59:51.520 --> 00:59:59.040 the kingdom, we need to fuse the kingdom, we need to fuse another dimension, another realm, 804 01:00:00.000 --> 01:00:05.840 into what we're calling kingdom business. If it's really kingdom business, it will be a fusion. 805 01:00:05.840 --> 01:00:12.480 Your beautiful verse Ephesians 1.10, there will be a fusion of heaven and earth. The earth is 806 01:00:12.480 --> 01:00:18.560 just as important as heaven and we need to fuse the two in order to really bring kingdom business. 807 01:00:18.560 --> 01:00:25.440 That's actually, there's so much to gain right here. And I think, again, it's a place of urgency 808 01:00:25.440 --> 01:00:31.120 for us to step in and not leave it for another generation. This is our time. This is our mandate. 809 01:00:31.120 --> 01:00:37.280 This is our call. This is our inheritance. This is our gift to open. This is our time. 810 01:00:37.280 --> 01:00:43.680 We are the people. This is the place. Now is the time to step into this and see this fusion 811 01:00:43.680 --> 01:00:48.800 of kingdom business. And another element of what I want to say the kingdom is, 812 01:00:49.760 --> 01:00:55.120 and what the kingdom really rests on, is if you look at heaven, the heartbeat of heaven, 813 01:00:55.120 --> 01:01:00.240 the very core of what heaven is founded on, is founded on what you mentioned before Jason, 814 01:01:00.240 --> 01:01:08.560 which is the divine dance. An unbroken cycle of divine love where the father and the son 815 01:01:08.560 --> 01:01:15.520 and the holy spirit participate in this beautiful unbroken cycle of divine love, 816 01:01:15.520 --> 01:01:22.800 where they lavish one another in extravagant expressions of delight. 817 01:01:22.800 --> 01:01:30.560 And this unbroken cycle of divine love, that is the foundation of heaven. All the atmosphere, 818 01:01:30.560 --> 01:01:35.440 everything that we love about heaven flows out of that divine dance, flows out of that 819 01:01:35.440 --> 01:01:42.480 unbroken cycle of divine love that is the very epicenter of heaven. And kingdom business 820 01:01:42.480 --> 01:01:52.640 actually needs to become a mirror of the divine dance. And that starts to get really, 821 01:01:52.640 --> 01:01:57.840 really exciting because it brings us into this place of beautiful relationship, 822 01:01:57.840 --> 01:02:04.160 where our relationships with one another mirror heaven, mirror the divine dance, 823 01:02:04.160 --> 01:02:08.560 mirror the fellowship of the trinity. And kingdom business, when we actually 824 01:02:08.560 --> 01:02:16.560 really unpack what it starts to look like, kingdom business is the mirroring of heaven 825 01:02:16.560 --> 01:02:22.640 on earth. And so much of that happens in our relationships, it happens in the atmosphere, 826 01:02:22.640 --> 01:02:28.960 it happens in this context of an open heaven, it happens in this realm of transcending the natural 827 01:02:28.960 --> 01:02:35.120 and bringing supernatural manifestation of the kingdom realm, where we supernaturally 828 01:02:35.120 --> 01:02:41.520 manifest physical realities. Like we need bread, boom, we supernaturally manifest it. 829 01:02:41.520 --> 01:02:48.960 And I think where we are going in the next season is we're going to see that verse that you talked 830 01:02:48.960 --> 01:02:54.960 about today, Ephesians 1.10, manifest like never before. We're going to see a convergence of heaven 831 01:02:54.960 --> 01:02:59.520 and earth. And Isaiah 60 is going to take place, arise and shine for your light has come and the 832 01:02:59.520 --> 01:03:04.240 glory of the Lord has risen upon you. The whole darkness covers the earth and thick darkness is 833 01:03:04.240 --> 01:03:09.760 over the peoples, but the Lord has risen over you and his glory is upon you. We're going to see this 834 01:03:09.760 --> 01:03:13.520 realm, we're going to see a convergence of, you know, we're going to see the good, the bad and 835 01:03:13.520 --> 01:03:19.600 the ugly as hell converges and heaven converges. And we're going to see more of the angelic realm 836 01:03:19.600 --> 01:03:25.600 manifesting more of the supernatural realm of breakthrough manifesting more kingdom business. 837 01:03:25.600 --> 01:03:31.040 And the whole concept of kingdom business, I think is going to unfold to us like a present 838 01:03:31.040 --> 01:03:35.520 being opened. And we're going to have these revelation after revelation after revelation 839 01:03:35.520 --> 01:03:40.320 of the beauty of what kingdom business truly is. So I want to thank you for everything that you've 840 01:03:40.320 --> 01:03:48.400 brought. It's brought so much weight to what we're talking about. And yes, I'm so grateful, Jason. 841 01:03:48.400 --> 01:03:50.960 And yeah, let me tag Seb in here. 842 01:03:50.960 --> 01:04:02.960 I love it. I love it. It's awesome. So powerful. Well, Jason, I'm wondering if just to close and 843 01:04:02.960 --> 01:04:09.520 land plain, I'd love it if you could pray for us, everybody who's out there in the summit and 844 01:04:10.240 --> 01:04:17.120 just us and raising royalty to encounter the more of heaven that we've been talking about, 845 01:04:17.120 --> 01:04:26.000 the expansive increase of as it is in heaven. So so let it be here on earth. And I think just 846 01:04:26.000 --> 01:04:32.720 specifically pray as you guys have been experiencing that more portals would open up over 847 01:04:32.720 --> 01:04:38.960 over half people's houses, over people's businesses, over people's endeavors that 848 01:04:38.960 --> 01:04:45.600 there would just be a faith that rises. But I won't put words in your mouth. But yeah, 849 01:04:45.600 --> 01:04:53.520 that's just been what I'm feeling. Hmm. Well, just just a couple of verses, they're very strong 850 01:04:53.520 --> 01:04:59.840 and out journey of being God speaking to Moses, be careful to build, according to 851 01:05:00.000 --> 01:05:07.360 template from heaven. Everything we do, we try to make sure the template is from heaven, the blueprint, 852 01:05:07.360 --> 01:05:13.760 the design. The other is seek first the kingdom of God and His righteousness and all these things 853 01:05:13.760 --> 01:05:21.920 shall be given unto you. We're in this place of just being given the drawing by His presence and 854 01:05:21.920 --> 01:05:27.680 so much goodness is coming to us because we are seeking His kingdom. We have a sister, Jo, 855 01:05:27.680 --> 01:05:35.440 and for years, she has received actual money in her pocket. Whatever country she goes to, 856 01:05:35.440 --> 01:05:40.160 the Lord just drops the money in her pocket to buy the coffee, to get them, whatever. 857 01:05:41.920 --> 01:05:47.600 She hasn't needed bank accounts. She hasn't needed. The Lord has just hundreds, thousands 858 01:05:47.600 --> 01:05:56.240 of times probably, I've seen it happen. The Lord, the stones can be very valuable as well. 859 01:05:57.120 --> 01:06:04.560 The kingdom of God can absolutely supply all of our needs. The kingdom can do it, whether it be 860 01:06:04.560 --> 01:06:10.640 health, wealth, food. Yes, the focus on the kingdom is absolutely vital. Father, we thank 861 01:06:10.640 --> 01:06:17.920 you for this day. We thank you for this amazing raising royalty family, the son of God. We thank 862 01:06:17.920 --> 01:06:23.120 you for your weighty presence, God. We can feel that now. God, I thank you for that which you've 863 01:06:23.120 --> 01:06:33.040 done to us, a bunch of just triads on a mountaintop and just a back place in the world, 864 01:06:33.040 --> 01:06:39.120 a dark place. It's been dark, but it's getting brighter and brighter. Your glory is shining here. 865 01:06:39.120 --> 01:06:44.640 It's beginning to break through all over the earth. Thank you that you are through open heaven 866 01:06:44.640 --> 01:06:50.480 encounters and revelations. You are releasing strategies and plans, and especially this 867 01:06:50.480 --> 01:06:55.600 economic structures, new structures. Let everything that raising royalty does be flowing 868 01:06:55.600 --> 01:07:01.920 out of heaven. Let everything that we engage into, Lord, in this earth space be a flow out of heaven, 869 01:07:01.920 --> 01:07:07.120 oh God. If it's not out of heaven, shut it down quickly, Father. If it is the flow of heaven, 870 01:07:07.120 --> 01:07:12.160 the template from heaven, let the glory of God, let the grace of God, let the blessing of God 871 01:07:12.800 --> 01:07:18.560 be upon Lord. I do pray for all those who will listen to this replay. I pray for all of us, 872 01:07:18.560 --> 01:07:24.800 God, that you would just bring us to places where the heavens would open richly and widely above us, 873 01:07:25.440 --> 01:07:32.160 above our homes, above our communities, oh God. And that in these open heaven atmospheres, 874 01:07:32.160 --> 01:07:39.120 the miracles of heaven, the provision of heaven would be so easy to access and so easy to attain, 875 01:07:39.120 --> 01:07:44.800 oh God. We thank you that your glory is shining throughout the earth. And Jesus, you are in heaven 876 01:07:44.800 --> 01:07:51.920 now, seated upon your throne, and you are filling the earth, oh God. You are filling us. You are 877 01:07:51.920 --> 01:07:57.040 filling everything with your glory, and it's getting stronger. It's getting stronger. It's 878 01:07:57.040 --> 01:08:02.720 getting more glorious. It's getting more wondrous. And God, we want you to fill us. We want you to 879 01:08:02.720 --> 01:08:08.080 fill this raising royalty. We ask you would fill with the richness of your kingdom. Thank you for 880 01:08:08.080 --> 01:08:13.840 the freedom that you are giving to Benji and his team, Sebastian and his team, to just be 881 01:08:13.840 --> 01:08:19.760 free as sons of the kingdom, to be able to embrace these revelations and to see them 882 01:08:19.760 --> 01:08:25.520 released into the earth. I bless Benji. I bless Sebastian. I bless Raising Royalty. And Father, 883 01:08:25.520 --> 01:08:31.760 the blessings that have come upon my house, God, I ask to come upon their houses as well. And everyone 884 01:08:31.760 --> 01:08:36.800 who listens to this, we give you praise. Thank you for open heaven realities. We love you, Jesus. 885 01:08:36.800 --> 01:08:42.319 We love you. We thank you for all that you've done. We love you, our father, our papa. Thank you. 886 01:08:42.319 --> 01:08:48.399 We thank you for your calling, your drawing to us, beautiful Holy Spirit. You are God in us. 887 01:08:48.399 --> 01:08:54.479 You are with us and in us. The father and the son are in us. And we thank you. You are beautiful. 888 01:08:54.479 --> 01:08:59.200 You are glorious. And give us a fascination for heaven. Give us a fascination for the beauty 889 01:08:59.200 --> 01:09:07.600 realm of God. And let heaven break out in us and through us. In Jesus' mighty name, I pray. Amen. 890 01:09:08.560 --> 01:09:18.479 Amen. Wow. Wow. So good. Love you guys. Man, that's amazing. Thank you so much, Jason. That's 891 01:09:18.479 --> 01:09:25.840 so weighty, so glorious. And we actually, we've got Matt, our next session, we're just going to 892 01:09:25.840 --> 01:09:30.880 go straight in here. So Matt's just jumping in here right now, going to tag straight in here, 893 01:09:30.880 --> 01:09:37.520 which is going to be beautiful. But Jason, man, we just can't thank you enough for everything 894 01:09:37.520 --> 01:09:42.880 that you've brought just now. So thanks, my man. And we look forward to coming and hanging out with 895 01:09:42.880 --> 01:09:47.920 you in India. I'm sure we need to bring a Raising Royalty team over there and come and get your kids 896 01:09:47.920 --> 01:09:56.880 to pray for us. Good to see you, Matt. Love you guys. God bless. Bye. Jason, if you haven't met 897 01:09:56.880 --> 01:09:59.840 Matt, Matt, Jason, Jason, Matt. 898 01:10:00.000 --> 01:10:05.040 going. Thanks for that so much, Jason. Yeah, God bless. Bye. 899 01:10:06.320 --> 01:10:10.920 We will we will we absolutely will. Beautiful. Thanks, bud. 900 01:10:11.400 --> 01:10:15.280 And Matt, welcome right in here, mate. Welcome into the 901 01:10:15.280 --> 01:10:21.640 goodness. Thank you, sir. While we are being well baked in the 902 01:10:21.640 --> 01:10:27.560 glory is a pretty luscious atmosphere of heaven all around 903 01:10:27.560 --> 01:10:33.960 us. Oh, man, we just just flooded with goodness. And I 904 01:10:33.960 --> 01:10:36.680 said, how about you take over from here? I think I'm a little 905 01:10:36.680 --> 01:10:36.880 bit 906 01:10:42.320 --> 01:10:43.280 with goodness. 907 01:10:43.760 --> 01:10:47.120 You gotta learn to drink and drive the zoom, you know? 908 01:10:47.160 --> 01:10:47.760 Yeah, no. 909 01:10:50.240 --> 01:10:51.480 Drink and drive like 910 01:10:51.480 --> 01:11:00.440 Wow. Yeah, awesome. Great to meet you, Matt. Matt, you give 911 01:11:00.440 --> 01:11:05.080 Matt or Matthew? Yeah, Matt. Matthew's fine. Yep. Awesome. 912 01:11:05.120 --> 01:11:08.840 It's great to meet you. How are you? Yeah, good. Good. 913 01:11:09.640 --> 01:11:15.960 Sweet, man. Hey, everyone. If you haven't met Matt before, 914 01:11:15.960 --> 01:11:21.360 this is Matt and I really wanted to bring Matt on here because I 915 01:11:21.360 --> 01:11:26.320 think Matt's got some real richness for us to catch in the 916 01:11:26.320 --> 01:11:34.200 whole space of, of mindsets of actually shifting into new 917 01:11:34.240 --> 01:11:40.040 opportunities. So Matt, we're just grateful, stoked that you 918 01:11:40.040 --> 01:11:45.200 can be with us. And how about you for us? As we as we light up 919 01:11:45.200 --> 01:11:50.440 this, this session together. And just looking forward to a good 920 01:11:50.440 --> 01:11:55.120 chat. Yeah, a lot of thank you for this time. And I thank you 921 01:11:55.120 --> 01:12:00.800 father that you would. You're already here being here all 922 01:12:00.800 --> 01:12:03.360 weekend. But father, I just thank you that you give me the 923 01:12:03.360 --> 01:12:07.320 words to speak the points to talk about, and the things to 924 01:12:07.320 --> 01:12:11.440 miss the things to include. And I just thank you for that your 925 01:12:11.440 --> 01:12:16.200 Holy Spirit is on everything I say, it's less of me and more of 926 01:12:16.200 --> 01:12:19.880 you Lord. And I just thank you for this whole raising royalty 927 01:12:19.880 --> 01:12:25.600 platform, the kingdom business summit. May there be many, many, 928 01:12:25.600 --> 01:12:30.200 many, many more to come. And yeah, just excited and thrilled 929 01:12:30.200 --> 01:12:33.840 to be a part of what you're doing on the earth through 930 01:12:33.840 --> 01:12:39.040 finance and kingdom business and the whole new digital space 931 01:12:39.040 --> 01:12:43.240 that's opening up for so many people. In Jesus name. Amen. 932 01:12:43.840 --> 01:12:49.600 Amen. Well, thanks, my man. Well, man, the cool thing is 933 01:12:49.600 --> 01:12:54.520 like a lot of what we're doing now with raising royalty and 934 01:12:54.520 --> 01:12:57.280 things like that. We've got a lot of new people, but it's 935 01:12:57.280 --> 01:13:03.680 quite cool. I mean, you and I met a long time ago. I mean, 936 01:13:03.720 --> 01:13:08.320 20. We're talking nearly 20 years, not probably 19 years ago 937 01:13:08.360 --> 01:13:15.480 that we first met. Yeah. So we first met in Wanaka. And I mean, 938 01:13:15.480 --> 01:13:19.440 it was I was still getting free back in those days. Actually, 939 01:13:19.440 --> 01:13:23.280 the church that you went that you were at, that was the first 940 01:13:23.320 --> 01:13:29.640 Pentecostal church that I'd ever been to. Yeah, that was the 941 01:13:29.640 --> 01:13:32.120 first Pentecostal church that I'd ever been to. I'd been a 942 01:13:32.120 --> 01:13:35.360 good Baptist boy up until, you know, like, I'd never been to 943 01:13:35.360 --> 01:13:38.160 really anything apart from a Baptist church until that time. 944 01:13:38.880 --> 01:13:41.440 That's out there. I would never have guessed that about you. 945 01:13:44.560 --> 01:13:49.320 And I came to your town, which was a ski town, and came there 946 01:13:49.320 --> 01:13:55.880 for a month of snowboarding, which was fantastic. And but 947 01:13:55.920 --> 01:13:58.440 you're one of the real blessings was the church that was in that 948 01:13:58.440 --> 01:14:02.880 town. And that's, that's where we connected 19 years ago. So 949 01:14:02.880 --> 01:14:06.400 it's been cool to kind of just tag team along the journey. And 950 01:14:06.400 --> 01:14:09.760 we've had cool moments like you're heading to Africa on 951 01:14:09.760 --> 01:14:18.440 missions trips. I'd almost forgotten that I think sometimes 952 01:14:18.800 --> 01:14:26.360 that might all try to forget it. Definitely a culture shock on 953 01:14:26.360 --> 01:14:29.120 that particular trip, but you know, just so much journeying 954 01:14:29.400 --> 01:14:33.240 that we've been able to share. And I think you've got so much 955 01:14:33.240 --> 01:14:37.000 value to add and to bring to people who are in, you know, 956 01:14:37.000 --> 01:14:39.920 like, in business, who've probably been in a traditional 957 01:14:39.920 --> 01:14:44.560 business for, for a long time. So, yeah, why don't you just 958 01:14:44.560 --> 01:14:46.920 tell us a little bit about, you know, what's the business that 959 01:14:46.920 --> 01:14:50.920 you've been involved in? Yeah, what's, what do you do? 960 01:14:52.120 --> 01:14:54.240 Little bit of background about me first, because I guess a lot 961 01:14:54.240 --> 01:14:54.440 of people don't know me. 962 01:14:54.440 --> 01:14:57.080 Yeah, absolutely. Give us a little bit of background and 963 01:14:57.080 --> 01:14:59.880 then, you know, and what your main business is right now. 964 01:15:00.000 --> 01:15:06.720 Yeah, sure. So I grew up in the north of England, in Huddersfield in West Yorkshire, and I've 965 01:15:06.720 --> 01:15:15.280 literally lived in Wyker for over 20 years now. I came here June 18th or 1. And yes, 966 01:15:15.280 --> 01:15:23.040 met Benji in those early years. He was just as crazy then as he is now. I remember him 967 01:15:23.040 --> 01:15:29.120 huddling in the edge of his tent, reading his word, praying in tongues. And yeah, that's 968 01:15:29.120 --> 01:15:37.680 a long time ago. That's half your lifetime back, right? Yeah, yeah, it is. So yeah, as 969 01:15:37.680 --> 01:15:43.200 I sat in the UK, just a bit how I ended up here. I always thought there was more to life, 970 01:15:43.200 --> 01:15:48.640 wanted to see Australia, read about New Zealand by accident. And it ended up where I could 971 01:15:48.640 --> 01:15:53.680 hitchhike New Zealand first for four months. Then I had a year on Australia and outback, 972 01:15:53.680 --> 01:16:02.880 crazy stuff, cattle stations, and yeah, just a wild adventure. And then I'd come through 973 01:16:02.880 --> 01:16:08.320 Wyker on my hitchhiking time, ended up back in the UK for a summer, if you can ever call 974 01:16:08.320 --> 01:16:14.880 such a thing over there. There isn't really a summer in the north of England. And then 975 01:16:14.880 --> 01:16:20.080 settled here, came back and got my residency here after six months back there. And I've 976 01:16:20.080 --> 01:16:25.360 been here ever since, got saved and born again within a few short years of that. Basically, 977 01:16:25.360 --> 01:16:30.800 a group of guys that Benji knows most of them. They all loved me into the kingdom of a period 978 01:16:30.800 --> 01:16:34.880 of sort of eight months. And I gave my heart to the Lord in church and in a crazy Holy 979 01:16:34.880 --> 01:16:40.000 Spirit moment. And it's never been the same since. It was like a honeymoon, couple of 980 01:16:40.000 --> 01:16:44.640 years, everything I prayed, thought about happened. Growing up in the UK, I'd never 981 01:16:44.640 --> 01:16:48.880 owned a hoodie, someone bought me a hoodie that I prayed for. You know, I had nothing 982 01:16:48.880 --> 01:16:54.800 but the clothes on my back, really a rucksack. I'd arrived in New Zealand to live. And I 983 01:16:54.800 --> 01:16:59.600 spent the first seven weeks with the backpackers, and then just slowly got to know people over 984 01:16:59.600 --> 01:17:04.720 time. And thank God for those guys. It was good, six, eight, 10 of them. They just loved 985 01:17:04.720 --> 01:17:10.640 me in the kingdom over that time. And here I am today. And it's been a 20 year process 986 01:17:10.720 --> 01:17:19.280 since then. I did a diplomacy ministry in 2008. That was a great year. Some, yeah, 987 01:17:19.280 --> 01:17:24.480 some fantastic things happened there. I was working in the church at the time and doing 988 01:17:24.480 --> 01:17:31.520 studies, block release with Vision College. So that was all a great journey there. And then 989 01:17:31.520 --> 01:17:36.640 as that year finished, I began the business that I'm in now, my traditional business, which 990 01:17:37.440 --> 01:17:42.080 began window cleaning. And then within a couple of years, we added pest control, 991 01:17:42.080 --> 01:17:46.880 which was more lucrative. And today that's 60 to 70% of our business. 992 01:17:48.320 --> 01:17:55.360 We're only a two person operation, so nothing massive, but I get to ski like 15, 20 days in 993 01:17:55.360 --> 01:18:02.560 winter, get three months is pretty quiet. I have three weeks at Christmas, I have Easter off and, 994 01:18:03.200 --> 01:18:08.320 you know, in a traditional business sense, I've been pretty blessed, very fortunate really over 995 01:18:08.320 --> 01:18:16.480 that time. And I guess I've always, you know, looking back, I've, I had a car washing round 996 01:18:16.480 --> 01:18:24.560 when I was 15, started that. Back then it was a pound or two pound for a big car. I mean, 997 01:18:25.280 --> 01:18:30.000 you know, that's a lot of money. I remember having the gold coins, like it actually looks 998 01:18:30.000 --> 01:18:36.400 like the Bitcoin we see today. And on my Saturday morning round, I get sick. I thought it was a 999 01:18:36.400 --> 01:18:41.840 really good morning. It was 14 or 16 pounds. I'd washed 10 cars or something like that. 1000 01:18:42.800 --> 01:18:46.800 And in comparison, my paper round was two or three. So anyway, so that was a very, 1001 01:18:46.800 --> 01:18:58.800 very early business there. And then over the years, I just wanted to get into other things. 1002 01:18:58.800 --> 01:19:02.160 I mean, that first two or three years in my traditional business, that took a lot of, 1003 01:19:04.320 --> 01:19:08.400 that took a lot out of me. It was, you don't know if it's going to work for the first two or three 1004 01:19:08.400 --> 01:19:15.840 years. I was literally knocking on doors and say, hey, I'm just calling in response to my recent 1005 01:19:15.840 --> 01:19:19.360 advert, would you like your windows cleaning? And I was learning about sales at the time, 1006 01:19:19.360 --> 01:19:24.000 I'd just shut up and fortunate most people just said, yeah, sure, give us a price. And we often 1007 01:19:24.000 --> 01:19:29.280 got the job. And so I was way out of my comfort zone. I was, my background was mechanical 1008 01:19:29.280 --> 01:19:36.560 precision engineer. So I had no idea about sales. I had my head stuck in a machine making metal 1009 01:19:36.560 --> 01:19:42.800 parts, you know, so, you know, I can look back and I can see God completely bringing me on the 1010 01:19:42.800 --> 01:19:47.200 journey. And then sometimes at the time you wonder where he is, but he's always there, right? 1011 01:19:48.080 --> 01:19:57.280 We all know that. And I guess, yeah, so then I guess a little bit before that sort of 1012 01:19:58.080 --> 01:20:00.000 mid 2000s, I'd only been working 1013 01:20:00.000 --> 01:20:02.200 at a supermarket and hardware store here. 1014 01:20:02.200 --> 01:20:05.760 I'd saved up enough money, bought my first rental property 1015 01:20:05.760 --> 01:20:08.400 and bought another one that year 1016 01:20:08.400 --> 01:20:11.860 when rental properties were 150,000 in South Auckland, 1017 01:20:12.760 --> 01:20:15.120 which is incredible. 1018 01:20:15.120 --> 01:20:16.960 Sorry to remember. 1019 01:20:16.960 --> 01:20:19.120 It's hard to remember, man. 1020 01:20:19.120 --> 01:20:20.840 Yes, 03, 04. 1021 01:20:20.840 --> 01:20:22.840 So that was my, I thought, I just like, 1022 01:20:22.840 --> 01:20:24.360 I was stuck in supermarket shelves 1023 01:20:24.360 --> 01:20:26.760 and I just thought, I just wanna, 1024 01:20:26.760 --> 01:20:28.720 I just gotta do something else, you know? 1025 01:20:28.720 --> 01:20:30.560 I gotta do something that's gonna create 1026 01:20:30.560 --> 01:20:33.760 me enough passive income to get me out of this, 1027 01:20:33.760 --> 01:20:37.320 this just about broke situation. 1028 01:20:37.320 --> 01:20:42.320 Anyway, so yes, I saved $10,000 1029 01:20:43.240 --> 01:20:45.540 and I bought my first rental property 1030 01:20:45.540 --> 01:20:48.680 and then somehow got another 18,000 together, 1031 01:20:48.680 --> 01:20:51.040 borrowed out some equity, got the second one, 1032 01:20:51.040 --> 01:20:52.720 had those for eight years, it doubled, 1033 01:20:52.720 --> 01:20:54.840 then came back to about 60%, 1034 01:20:54.840 --> 01:20:57.000 took that money overseas and bought 1035 01:20:57.000 --> 01:21:00.000 all the rental property, had an absolute nightmare 1036 01:21:00.000 --> 01:21:02.680 with a potentially crooked property manager 1037 01:21:03.640 --> 01:21:06.840 who was, yeah, anyway, that's a long, long story there. 1038 01:21:06.840 --> 01:21:08.360 So I nearly lost my nest egg, 1039 01:21:08.360 --> 01:21:09.720 went through a bit of a nightmare there, 1040 01:21:09.720 --> 01:21:12.320 also 2014, fortunately got back in, 1041 01:21:12.320 --> 01:21:14.000 got into a good area, got some good property, 1042 01:21:14.000 --> 01:21:15.120 that all turned out rosy, 1043 01:21:15.120 --> 01:21:17.520 but man, that was a horrible journey. 1044 01:21:17.520 --> 01:21:20.920 And then all the time I'd been growing my pest control 1045 01:21:20.920 --> 01:21:25.080 business and just, you know, 1046 01:21:25.080 --> 01:21:28.320 I just thought there was, you know, 1047 01:21:28.320 --> 01:21:29.880 I'd gone on the property journey, 1048 01:21:29.880 --> 01:21:33.040 I'd been burned, I'd learned some stuff, 1049 01:21:33.040 --> 01:21:34.520 I did network marketing, 1050 01:21:34.520 --> 01:21:37.440 someone prospected me on the checkout in New World 1051 01:21:37.440 --> 01:21:39.720 here in Monaco back in the early 2000s 1052 01:21:39.720 --> 01:21:43.720 and I started in a very well-known network marketing company 1053 01:21:43.720 --> 01:21:48.040 so I was religious with it for 18 months, 1054 01:21:48.040 --> 01:21:50.800 I tried to show them my 15 plans a month, 1055 01:21:50.800 --> 01:21:52.320 I listened to a tape a week, 1056 01:21:52.360 --> 01:21:55.400 I was on like a tape a day, read a book a month, 1057 01:21:55.400 --> 01:21:56.680 the book was the hardest thing for me, 1058 01:21:56.680 --> 01:21:58.000 yet today I can read the book. 1059 01:21:58.000 --> 01:22:01.440 So all that was grounding, I guess, in things 1060 01:22:01.440 --> 01:22:06.440 and then, you know, and just into different things. 1061 01:22:09.360 --> 01:22:12.720 And I was really like, I suppose in recent years, 1062 01:22:12.720 --> 01:22:14.800 I was wondering how I'd ever make it in the property, 1063 01:22:14.800 --> 01:22:17.120 I'm getting older now, heading towards 50, 1064 01:22:17.120 --> 01:22:20.720 wondering if it's running out in the sense of 1065 01:22:20.760 --> 01:22:22.280 I'm not going to have enough passive income 1066 01:22:22.280 --> 01:22:25.320 for my properties, they've paid down like 50%, 1067 01:22:27.160 --> 01:22:30.320 but how am I going to create enough money, you know, 1068 01:22:30.320 --> 01:22:33.120 to actually live and have a serious kind of life 1069 01:22:33.120 --> 01:22:36.640 and I got this great programming that, you know, 1070 01:22:36.640 --> 01:22:39.800 you do your, build your business, buy your assets 1071 01:22:39.800 --> 01:22:43.280 and the assets eventually will sustain your lifestyle, 1072 01:22:43.280 --> 01:22:46.160 that's all the reading, you know, the Robert Kiyosaki, 1073 01:22:46.160 --> 01:22:48.720 The Rich Dad Put, a lot of the famous books 1074 01:22:48.720 --> 01:22:50.480 that many of us know. 1075 01:22:50.480 --> 01:22:53.840 And I was like, I was stressing a bit, really, 1076 01:22:53.840 --> 01:22:55.600 like I was actually, I'm actually happy 1077 01:22:55.600 --> 01:22:57.200 in my pest control business, 1078 01:22:57.200 --> 01:22:58.800 I'm actually happy in my traditional business, 1079 01:22:58.800 --> 01:23:02.400 although it really is, can be exhausting 1080 01:23:02.400 --> 01:23:04.320 in the height of the season right now. 1081 01:23:05.600 --> 01:23:09.600 So I would never thought lockdown would be a blessing, 1082 01:23:09.600 --> 01:23:13.600 but, you know, that first lockdown in April 2020 1083 01:23:15.240 --> 01:23:17.920 in New Zealand, that first five or six weeks, 1084 01:23:17.920 --> 01:23:22.720 I like, I sort of wound down off the main pest control 1085 01:23:22.720 --> 01:23:27.720 season and began casting about online, 1086 01:23:30.600 --> 01:23:33.240 seeing if I could find something else, 1087 01:23:33.240 --> 01:23:35.280 must be something else, I've got all this time, 1088 01:23:35.280 --> 01:23:38.520 I'm not gonna waste it, I've got like, 1089 01:23:38.520 --> 01:23:40.880 I've got all this time, I'm not gonna waste it. 1090 01:23:42.800 --> 01:23:45.400 So I ended up on a couple of mastermind things, 1091 01:23:45.400 --> 01:23:47.800 I was part of Freedom Era, some of you know that, 1092 01:23:48.680 --> 01:23:49.520 I was just looking at it, 1093 01:23:49.520 --> 01:23:51.440 I didn't really wanna visit the network marketing space 1094 01:23:51.440 --> 01:23:55.640 again, that was not really my thing, 1095 01:23:55.640 --> 01:23:57.360 but sort of gleaned a lot there, 1096 01:23:57.360 --> 01:23:59.840 and we went back to work, went to his quiet, 1097 01:23:59.840 --> 01:24:02.760 skied again and did the stuff. 1098 01:24:02.760 --> 01:24:05.840 And then towards the end of that year, 1099 01:24:05.840 --> 01:24:10.840 I saw a post from someone in those masterminds 1100 01:24:11.800 --> 01:24:15.840 talking about a platform that had passive income. 1101 01:24:15.840 --> 01:24:18.720 So I thought, oh no, like the classic thing we all do, 1102 01:24:18.720 --> 01:24:21.200 you know, that's too good to be true, 1103 01:24:21.200 --> 01:24:24.720 can't be, can't start with so little and make so much, 1104 01:24:24.720 --> 01:24:26.040 that'll never happen. 1105 01:24:27.680 --> 01:24:32.680 But anyway, I just went in with a small amount, 1106 01:24:32.960 --> 01:24:37.120 researched it, it was a Forex trading platform 1107 01:24:37.120 --> 01:24:39.400 done for you, automated, 1108 01:24:39.400 --> 01:24:42.320 you don't need to learn the skills or anything. 1109 01:24:42.320 --> 01:24:45.760 So then by the start of 2021, 1110 01:24:45.760 --> 01:24:47.520 loaded in a decent amount of money, 1111 01:24:47.520 --> 01:24:49.080 we opened three, 1112 01:24:49.080 --> 01:24:51.400 we could do a three spot family pack strategy 1113 01:24:51.400 --> 01:24:55.440 where we managed to scrape together 1114 01:24:55.440 --> 01:24:57.080 some money from a failed investment 1115 01:24:57.080 --> 01:24:59.120 that I'd had for years and never gone nowhere, 1116 01:24:59.120 --> 01:24:59.960 so I pulled that. 1117 01:25:00.000 --> 01:25:09.680 out and got basically 15,000 American 21k Kiwi together and 1118 01:25:09.680 --> 01:25:12.880 put it in and that that's done really well. It basically turns 1119 01:25:12.880 --> 01:25:14.600 21 to 24% of them. 1120 01:25:15.080 --> 01:25:21.480 Wow. So this right here is this here is a big. This is a big 1121 01:25:21.480 --> 01:25:26.640 change right here, right? So your whole life has revolved 1122 01:25:26.640 --> 01:25:30.400 around the principle, even your current business revolves around 1123 01:25:30.400 --> 01:25:33.280 the principle, basically of trading time for money. 1124 01:25:33.960 --> 01:25:34.960 Yeah, that's right. 1125 01:25:36.000 --> 01:25:42.440 And so what you just what you're describing right now is what a 1126 01:25:42.440 --> 01:25:44.280 number of our people have been talking about through the 1127 01:25:44.280 --> 01:25:47.920 summit is actually transitioning from the mindset. We don't have 1128 01:25:47.920 --> 01:25:51.200 to fully transition. I mean, you still got that space of got your 1129 01:25:51.200 --> 01:25:54.280 businesses that, you know, they're ticking along nicely. 1130 01:25:54.520 --> 01:25:57.600 It's still got properties, but you're also stepping into the 1131 01:25:57.600 --> 01:26:01.520 space now of a mindset where, okay, I don't want to just trade 1132 01:26:01.520 --> 01:26:08.880 time for money. I want to have my money make money for me. 1133 01:26:09.520 --> 01:26:10.840 That's right. That's right. 1134 01:26:11.000 --> 01:26:14.080 Well, what, let me just kind of get in there for a moment and 1135 01:26:14.080 --> 01:26:20.400 ask, how did that, how did that mindset shift occur? Did it take 1136 01:26:20.400 --> 01:26:24.520 a long time? Did it just feel like a good fit? What was the 1137 01:26:24.520 --> 01:26:28.560 process that you went through personally to start realizing, 1138 01:26:28.560 --> 01:26:33.360 hey, I need to diversify beyond just my bricks and mortar 1139 01:26:33.360 --> 01:26:38.920 businesses. I need some other form of generating income that is 1140 01:26:38.920 --> 01:26:40.120 my money making money. 1141 01:26:42.520 --> 01:26:46.320 Yeah, I just knew that, like I said, I was quite happy in my 1142 01:26:46.320 --> 01:26:50.760 pest control business, but I just knew that, and I still am, 1143 01:26:50.960 --> 01:26:54.760 I just knew, you know, going towards 50, had some time on my 1144 01:26:54.760 --> 01:26:58.240 hands through lockdown, and was just casting about looking for 1145 01:26:58.240 --> 01:27:01.760 stuff, not knowing if I'd, you know, fishing, if you like, and 1146 01:27:01.760 --> 01:27:05.560 not knowing if there's any fish even out there that could get me 1147 01:27:05.560 --> 01:27:11.080 to a retirement place before I was even 50. But you know, I 1148 01:27:11.080 --> 01:27:13.240 didn't think there was anywhere. I didn't think there was 1149 01:27:13.240 --> 01:27:19.200 anything. But the way it's going, you know, I, that, you 1150 01:27:19.200 --> 01:27:21.600 know, we'll be in that place very shortly, if not by this 1151 01:27:21.600 --> 01:27:26.120 winter, maybe only a year away. So I guess to me, it wasn't a 1152 01:27:26.120 --> 01:27:29.600 massive shift, because I'd done these things in the background 1153 01:27:29.600 --> 01:27:32.880 and that's that state of network marketing. I'd read Robert 1154 01:27:32.880 --> 01:27:38.880 Kiyosaki books, I'd read Think and Grow Rich. How to, how to 1155 01:27:38.880 --> 01:27:41.160 something and influence people, is it Dale Carnegie? 1156 01:27:41.440 --> 01:27:42.920 Make friends and influence people. 1157 01:27:43.240 --> 01:27:44.920 Yeah, how to make friends and influence people. 1158 01:27:44.960 --> 01:27:46.840 And I'd struggle with it. 1159 01:27:47.600 --> 01:27:50.440 I'd read, I'd read, I'd read these classic books, and I'd 1160 01:27:50.440 --> 01:27:54.000 kind of been that stage. I actually thought, I actually 1161 01:27:54.000 --> 01:27:56.920 thought investment property was the way, but the way that they 1162 01:27:56.920 --> 01:28:01.800 got so much, so much more expensive, very hard to, you 1163 01:28:01.800 --> 01:28:05.360 know, make that work in time to even be retired for 70 now, let 1164 01:28:05.360 --> 01:28:09.880 alone 50. Anyway, so the mindset change. Yeah, deke, one massive 1165 01:28:09.880 --> 01:28:13.520 thing, if I can encourage anyone is decouple from the 1166 01:28:13.560 --> 01:28:21.080 idea of earning money for hours. So decouple from the hourly rate 1167 01:28:21.080 --> 01:28:25.000 thing. That's massive, because we're so programmed to go to 1168 01:28:25.000 --> 01:28:28.920 work and work for an hourly rate. What are the ways that 1169 01:28:28.920 --> 01:28:32.280 your parents did it, your grandparents did it, you know, 1170 01:28:32.520 --> 01:28:35.200 and that's, that's the old economy, if you want to call it 1171 01:28:35.200 --> 01:28:38.440 that. Nothing wrong with having a job, nothing wrong with doing 1172 01:28:38.440 --> 01:28:44.160 those things. But just, but just knew I needed to shift and find 1173 01:28:44.160 --> 01:28:53.240 things and do, you know, and do stuff. Yeah, I think one of the 1174 01:28:53.240 --> 01:28:58.840 things I've learned even more recently, you can have linear 1175 01:28:58.840 --> 01:29:04.520 income. So you trade your time for hours, or you could have 1176 01:29:04.840 --> 01:29:09.200 leveraged income. And when you start out on the leveraged 1177 01:29:09.240 --> 01:29:16.520 income path, you actually earn less than the linear. Because 1178 01:29:16.520 --> 01:29:20.080 you got to build a network, you got to, you know, you got to 1179 01:29:20.080 --> 01:29:24.720 help other people. So there's a there's a, there's a you can't 1180 01:29:24.720 --> 01:29:28.080 call that a honeymoon period. That's like, that's a coal face 1181 01:29:28.080 --> 01:29:31.120 in the fire kind of period, if you like, where you're trying to 1182 01:29:31.120 --> 01:29:37.640 build that leveraged income. So it got, it got to be where, you 1183 01:29:37.640 --> 01:29:41.720 know, you think about, if you've got a bunch of committed people, 1184 01:29:41.800 --> 01:29:45.000 even working five hours a week, and you have 100 people in your 1185 01:29:45.000 --> 01:29:50.600 organization, that's 500 hours a week that your organization is 1186 01:29:50.600 --> 01:29:56.160 working, and you might only work 510 20 yourself. So it's, it's 1187 01:29:56.160 --> 01:30:00.080 shifting from that, I got to trade hours for dollars. 1188 01:30:00.000 --> 01:30:04.200 to a leveraged income. 1189 01:30:04.200 --> 01:30:07.040 And you might be spinning your wheels for a long while, 1190 01:30:07.040 --> 01:30:08.640 for a month, for a year. 1191 01:30:08.640 --> 01:30:11.400 Some people it takes a little bit longer, some shorter, 1192 01:30:11.400 --> 01:30:13.400 depending on where you're at from the beginning. 1193 01:30:13.400 --> 01:30:14.840 I don't know whether I'm answering your question here. 1194 01:30:14.840 --> 01:30:15.880 Is that? 1195 01:30:15.880 --> 01:30:16.960 Yeah, I mean, that's great. 1196 01:30:16.960 --> 01:30:18.480 It's great. 1197 01:30:18.480 --> 01:30:22.740 This is such a significant journey for us in general too. 1198 01:30:22.740 --> 01:30:25.680 And I love the phrase that you just used there, decoupling, 1199 01:30:27.100 --> 01:30:27.940 which is really beautiful. 1200 01:30:27.940 --> 01:30:30.220 So, I mean, you're talking right now 1201 01:30:30.220 --> 01:30:32.900 about the CFX platform, which is really exciting. 1202 01:30:32.900 --> 01:30:37.020 We've got Anna and Asha jumping on tomorrow 1203 01:30:37.020 --> 01:30:41.140 and they're gonna go deep into that platform as well, 1204 01:30:41.140 --> 01:30:42.580 which is really exciting. 1205 01:30:42.580 --> 01:30:47.580 So, I mean, that's in the space of Forex. 1206 01:30:49.020 --> 01:30:53.440 Now, Forex, people might not realize this, 1207 01:30:54.400 --> 01:30:59.400 it's over a $6 trillion a day industry. 1208 01:30:59.440 --> 01:31:04.440 Nothing in the entire world comes even close 1209 01:31:04.480 --> 01:31:06.500 to the Forex industry. 1210 01:31:06.500 --> 01:31:08.400 I mean, Apple, right? 1211 01:31:08.400 --> 01:31:11.440 Pretty big company, $2.1 trillion a year. 1212 01:31:11.440 --> 01:31:16.440 Forex, over $6 trillion a day. 1213 01:31:16.560 --> 01:31:17.400 A day, yeah. 1214 01:31:17.400 --> 01:31:18.680 A day. 1215 01:31:18.680 --> 01:31:23.280 I mean, I don't even know if they've got numbers for that. 1216 01:31:24.120 --> 01:31:26.360 Six, that's like, what's a thousand trillion? 1217 01:31:29.280 --> 01:31:31.640 I can't even watch that number. 1218 01:31:31.640 --> 01:31:33.080 It's a quadrillion. 1219 01:31:33.080 --> 01:31:34.560 Is it a quadrillion? 1220 01:31:34.560 --> 01:31:35.400 Yeah. 1221 01:31:35.400 --> 01:31:36.400 A quadrillion, okay. 1222 01:31:36.400 --> 01:31:41.080 Well, okay, so it's a quadrillion dollar industry. 1223 01:31:42.160 --> 01:31:43.800 That's a big number, a quadrillion. 1224 01:31:43.800 --> 01:31:47.560 So, Forex, I mean, and Forex is the market 1225 01:31:47.560 --> 01:31:50.820 that attracts people who want leveraged income, 1226 01:31:50.820 --> 01:31:53.940 who understand mega wealth. 1227 01:31:53.940 --> 01:31:56.940 And so what you're saying is that you're actually 1228 01:31:56.940 --> 01:31:59.820 just starting to discover inroads and pathways 1229 01:31:59.820 --> 01:32:03.980 for how you can actually step out of that space. 1230 01:32:03.980 --> 01:32:05.980 Yes, yes, yes. 1231 01:32:05.980 --> 01:32:10.980 And CFX has been the opening door for that, really. 1232 01:32:11.420 --> 01:32:14.460 From that, I spent extended amounts of time 1233 01:32:14.460 --> 01:32:18.300 over winter on LinkedIn, learning to prospect people, 1234 01:32:18.300 --> 01:32:20.140 setting up a professional page, 1235 01:32:20.140 --> 01:32:24.900 and doing, just getting things dialed properly. 1236 01:32:24.900 --> 01:32:29.900 And that has been a real doorway 1237 01:32:29.900 --> 01:32:32.900 and I've discovered other stuff since then. 1238 01:32:32.900 --> 01:32:36.980 And late last year, joined another platform as well, 1239 01:32:36.980 --> 01:32:39.580 more in the crypto space. 1240 01:32:41.460 --> 01:32:44.820 You've got Trevor Chatham talking about that later on. 1241 01:32:44.820 --> 01:32:48.020 Yeah, and also Oz Hillman will be talking about that too, 1242 01:32:48.700 --> 01:32:49.540 which is kind of exciting. 1243 01:32:49.540 --> 01:32:51.820 Oh, wow, wow, excellent, yeah. 1244 01:32:51.820 --> 01:32:56.820 So, I'm like, I've got these, I think I'm proper excited. 1245 01:32:58.060 --> 01:33:00.980 I've got like these bits of thousands of dollars in things 1246 01:33:00.980 --> 01:33:05.580 and it's making 5% here and 20% a month there and that. 1247 01:33:05.580 --> 01:33:08.740 And I've kind of on paper replaced my income already, 1248 01:33:08.740 --> 01:33:10.820 but I need to double that. 1249 01:33:10.820 --> 01:33:13.900 I need to sit on my hands, not move at all, 1250 01:33:13.900 --> 01:33:16.540 in the sense of keep doing what you're doing. 1251 01:33:16.540 --> 01:33:19.500 And then that is gonna be the thing 1252 01:33:19.500 --> 01:33:22.820 that will get me retired before 50. 1253 01:33:22.820 --> 01:33:25.620 I don't, not being on the tools 1254 01:33:25.620 --> 01:33:28.620 and in a physically working business past this winter 1255 01:33:28.620 --> 01:33:30.700 could be a reality for me. 1256 01:33:30.700 --> 01:33:34.860 And I only really started late last year 1257 01:33:34.860 --> 01:33:39.860 with December 2020, late the year before last. 1258 01:33:41.540 --> 01:33:44.420 So it's only been a 14 month journey. 1259 01:33:45.420 --> 01:33:47.140 Yeah, well, someone here in the comments 1260 01:33:47.140 --> 01:33:49.020 is just saying they had to Google quadrillion. 1261 01:33:49.020 --> 01:33:50.900 It's got 15 zeros. 1262 01:33:54.540 --> 01:33:55.940 And it's recession proof. 1263 01:33:55.940 --> 01:33:57.500 The Forex market's recession proof. 1264 01:33:57.500 --> 01:34:02.500 So that goes on 24 hours a day, seven days a week, 365 a year. 1265 01:34:02.500 --> 01:34:05.260 It only has about five days off in Christmas. 1266 01:34:06.900 --> 01:34:09.460 And so it's not dependent on lockdowns. 1267 01:34:09.460 --> 01:34:11.620 It's not dependent on a shop front. 1268 01:34:11.620 --> 01:34:13.940 It's not dependent on anything traditional. 1269 01:34:14.620 --> 01:34:16.420 It just goes on in the background. 1270 01:34:16.420 --> 01:34:18.860 Currency pairs are trading like that 1271 01:34:18.860 --> 01:34:21.100 every many other day year round. 1272 01:34:21.100 --> 01:34:24.620 So yeah, that's an incredible industry. 1273 01:34:24.620 --> 01:34:26.300 That it's incredible. 1274 01:34:26.300 --> 01:34:27.380 And there's a lot of people, 1275 01:34:27.380 --> 01:34:28.500 I think the stats out there, 1276 01:34:28.500 --> 01:34:30.460 90% of people lose their money in it. 1277 01:34:32.060 --> 01:34:34.860 I'll qualify that to say they're doing it on their own 1278 01:34:34.860 --> 01:34:37.540 and having a stab themselves with their own money 1279 01:34:37.540 --> 01:34:39.340 and buying a package. 1280 01:34:39.380 --> 01:34:44.380 But the Forex market is a moving set of goalposts. 1281 01:34:46.900 --> 01:34:49.420 So you can buy a bot, but three weeks time, 1282 01:34:49.420 --> 01:34:50.860 it's not winning you anymore. 1283 01:34:50.860 --> 01:34:52.620 It's losing your whole account. 1284 01:34:52.620 --> 01:34:54.940 I think there's plenty of people probably on Raising Realty 1285 01:34:54.940 --> 01:34:56.700 that know about stuff like that, 1286 01:34:56.700 --> 01:34:58.380 and part of the journey. 1287 01:34:58.380 --> 01:35:00.100 Anyway, I say all that to say. 1288 01:35:00.000 --> 01:35:08.800 It's just opened my mind, it shattered my paradigms really to see that there's platforms 1289 01:35:08.800 --> 01:35:15.760 there that are real, genuine, and can take you from a few hundred or a few starting thousand 1290 01:35:15.760 --> 01:35:21.200 dollars to tens of thousands in months, and then within a few short years to hundreds 1291 01:35:21.200 --> 01:35:22.200 of thousands. 1292 01:35:22.200 --> 01:35:27.400 If you just keep with the system, if you just keep plugged in and you keep upgrading and 1293 01:35:27.400 --> 01:35:32.640 you keep doing your rebuys and you keep doing your upgrades and you keep learning and you 1294 01:35:32.640 --> 01:35:36.920 keep on LinkedIn and you keep prospecting people and you keep talking to people and 1295 01:35:36.920 --> 01:35:39.800 don't listen to your broke neighbor. 1296 01:35:39.800 --> 01:35:47.360 Whatever you do, look over the fence, do you want what your broke neighbor has? 1297 01:35:47.360 --> 01:35:49.760 I'm no disrespect to anyone, right? 1298 01:35:49.760 --> 01:35:52.480 But do you want what your broke neighbor has? 1299 01:35:52.480 --> 01:36:01.720 Or Robert Kiyosaki, Warren Buffett, and Richard Branson, all edify platforms that are based 1300 01:36:01.720 --> 01:36:04.000 around network marketing. 1301 01:36:04.000 --> 01:36:07.360 That's one of the three B business systems that they use. 1302 01:36:07.360 --> 01:36:16.440 You can network marketing, a C corporation, and a franchise. 1303 01:36:16.440 --> 01:36:21.480 So you can build your own big corporation, you can get into franchising or network marketing. 1304 01:36:21.480 --> 01:36:23.880 So those three, they edify that. 1305 01:36:23.880 --> 01:36:31.760 And what I'm seeing, Benji, and there is this amazing, the old paradigm of network marketing 1306 01:36:31.760 --> 01:36:33.720 is disappearing. 1307 01:36:33.720 --> 01:36:41.040 And it's coupling up with modern financial platforms that have no physical products. 1308 01:36:41.040 --> 01:36:44.440 So this was a real light going on for me. 1309 01:36:44.440 --> 01:36:51.080 I'd done a physical product business 15, 18 years ago, but now you're seeing network marketing 1310 01:36:51.080 --> 01:36:59.800 almost coming of age, coupling with financial platforms, financial trading platforms. 1311 01:36:59.800 --> 01:37:07.880 So that's a whole, I don't think anyone, well, many people do, but I don't think people, 1312 01:37:07.880 --> 01:37:11.960 some people won't revisit network marketing because they're scared by it. 1313 01:37:11.960 --> 01:37:16.680 But in reality, today, it's a whole different ballgame. 1314 01:37:16.680 --> 01:37:20.880 It's almost completely changed. 1315 01:37:21.280 --> 01:37:22.960 And it's coupled with these financial platforms. 1316 01:37:22.960 --> 01:37:25.160 So people don't get out. 1317 01:37:25.160 --> 01:37:30.160 I mean, massive attrition rates, I understand, in the physical product businesses, people 1318 01:37:30.160 --> 01:37:36.600 get in, try it for a week, a month, three years, don't have success, just hate the thing. 1319 01:37:36.600 --> 01:37:41.400 I've only a very small team that I built in my CFX business, but no one left. 1320 01:37:41.400 --> 01:37:42.760 No one's talked about leaving. 1321 01:37:42.760 --> 01:37:49.000 No one wants to leave because they earn 21 to 24% of money on their funds. 1322 01:37:49.000 --> 01:37:53.680 It's like they're winning from day three, winning from day three. 1323 01:37:53.680 --> 01:37:58.640 And in the other platform, the crypto-based one, they're winning from day one. 1324 01:37:58.640 --> 01:38:03.040 So everyone wins from day one or day three. 1325 01:38:03.040 --> 01:38:07.120 And I suppose the most incredible thing is people still say no to that. 1326 01:38:07.120 --> 01:38:08.120 Yeah. 1327 01:38:08.120 --> 01:38:11.560 It's kind of incredible, right? 1328 01:38:11.560 --> 01:38:12.560 It's crazy, right? 1329 01:38:12.560 --> 01:38:16.440 I mean, just to summarize, very condensed. 1330 01:38:16.440 --> 01:38:22.160 You basically said, you know, lockdowns hit, the world went crazy. 1331 01:38:22.160 --> 01:38:28.000 You went researching for a bunch of things, businesses shut down overnight, basically, 1332 01:38:28.000 --> 01:38:30.680 because nobody wants to see anybody face to face. 1333 01:38:30.680 --> 01:38:36.720 And then the business world that you're exploring just kind of exploded, and there's this brand 1334 01:38:36.720 --> 01:38:41.320 new hunger for just expansion. 1335 01:38:42.320 --> 01:38:49.760 With actual systems that actually return, I've got family, friends in the product-based 1336 01:38:49.760 --> 01:38:55.480 network marketing businesses, and they are hustling and grinding just to get like one 1337 01:38:55.480 --> 01:38:56.480 win. 1338 01:38:56.480 --> 01:39:02.800 And when you're in both CFX and all the other cryptos that we're involved in, it's just 1339 01:39:02.800 --> 01:39:07.120 so cool because when you win, you win. 1340 01:39:07.120 --> 01:39:08.120 It's very simple. 1341 01:39:08.280 --> 01:39:14.400 You win, and you win, and then everybody wins, and having access to that right now is pretty 1342 01:39:14.400 --> 01:39:15.400 incredible. 1343 01:39:15.400 --> 01:39:22.560 But yeah, tell us about how did you navigate that process? 1344 01:39:22.560 --> 01:39:28.000 Because it must have been a little bit of a rollercoaster as well, did that hit you 1345 01:39:28.000 --> 01:39:29.000 like that? 1346 01:39:29.000 --> 01:39:33.800 Or is it just like this beautiful process of discovery, or how did that all happen? 1347 01:39:34.320 --> 01:39:40.520 Yeah, it's a proper rollercoaster, because you're still a product of your old thinking. 1348 01:39:40.520 --> 01:39:45.760 You're still a product of all the years and environment to this point. 1349 01:39:45.760 --> 01:39:54.720 And now you've got to just, like I said before, uncouple and debunk and don't stick around 1350 01:39:54.720 --> 01:39:56.720 people who are in the old system, you know? 1351 01:39:56.720 --> 01:39:59.520 So no, it wasn't smooth, Zeb. 1352 01:39:59.520 --> 01:40:00.040 It wasn't. 1353 01:40:00.000 --> 01:40:04.720 because I joined the CFX platform. 1354 01:40:04.720 --> 01:40:07.280 People said, it's a scam, you'll lose your money. 1355 01:40:07.280 --> 01:40:08.960 It's getting closed down any minute. 1356 01:40:08.960 --> 01:40:11.560 There was all sorts of nonsense written online about it. 1357 01:40:11.560 --> 01:40:13.280 Still, none of that has been proven today. 1358 01:40:13.280 --> 01:40:15.040 In fact, it just grows from strength to strength. 1359 01:40:15.040 --> 01:40:19.600 It's an incredibly strong company, incredibly strong, 1360 01:40:19.600 --> 01:40:22.360 but I don't think any of us really know the half of that. 1361 01:40:23.520 --> 01:40:26.440 And so your belief system goes in and out. 1362 01:40:26.440 --> 01:40:29.200 You're like, oh, this person has got some authority 1363 01:40:29.200 --> 01:40:30.600 and they said it's a scam. 1364 01:40:30.600 --> 01:40:32.560 Maybe it's a scam, I'll stop prospecting. 1365 01:40:32.560 --> 01:40:33.800 I won't tell anyone else. 1366 01:40:35.040 --> 01:40:37.760 Oh no, oh, my dreams of retiring 1367 01:40:37.760 --> 01:40:40.080 are just starting to crumble. 1368 01:40:41.360 --> 01:40:45.520 So you have this like, ooh, it levels out a bit, right? 1369 01:40:45.520 --> 01:40:49.480 But when your first three months in it 1370 01:40:49.480 --> 01:40:50.320 or your first six months in it 1371 01:40:50.320 --> 01:40:51.640 or your first nine months in it, 1372 01:40:51.640 --> 01:40:56.160 if someone can shoot across your bow 1373 01:40:56.160 --> 01:40:58.280 and someone with authority 1374 01:40:58.280 --> 01:41:01.520 or someone in a high place in a business 1375 01:41:01.520 --> 01:41:02.840 or someone you respect, 1376 01:41:02.840 --> 01:41:07.040 then you gotta be just, ah, it's hard, it's hard. 1377 01:41:07.040 --> 01:41:09.200 It's really tough that bit. 1378 01:41:09.200 --> 01:41:12.120 And I just stuck with it 1379 01:41:12.120 --> 01:41:15.680 and just listened to people in the upline who were winning. 1380 01:41:17.280 --> 01:41:21.000 I mean, the lady only a couple of upline from, 1381 01:41:21.000 --> 01:41:22.800 I don't know, she might be three or four upline from me. 1382 01:41:23.440 --> 01:41:26.600 She's the first female president in CFX. 1383 01:41:26.600 --> 01:41:27.720 Awesome. 1384 01:41:27.720 --> 01:41:28.880 Are you gonna listen to that? 1385 01:41:28.880 --> 01:41:30.520 I've seen her back office. 1386 01:41:30.520 --> 01:41:32.920 I mean, a few of us have seen her back office. 1387 01:41:34.040 --> 01:41:38.840 I mean, I don't even know the figures now. 1388 01:41:38.840 --> 01:41:41.440 You'd be talking, she's marching towards 1389 01:41:41.440 --> 01:41:45.280 an eight-figure turnover in 13 months. 1390 01:41:46.360 --> 01:41:47.400 Wow. 1391 01:41:47.400 --> 01:41:48.240 Wow. 1392 01:41:48.240 --> 01:41:49.080 Eight figures. 1393 01:41:49.080 --> 01:41:50.760 That's Shirey, I think I know who. 1394 01:41:50.760 --> 01:41:52.160 Yeah, yeah. 1395 01:41:52.840 --> 01:41:55.400 We used to chat about a few things back in the day. 1396 01:41:55.400 --> 01:41:57.120 So yeah, I know who you're talking about. 1397 01:41:57.120 --> 01:41:58.760 She actually just recently got given, 1398 01:41:58.760 --> 01:42:03.360 what was it, a Lamborghini or something as a bonus? 1399 01:42:03.360 --> 01:42:05.200 She's got a fancy sports car. 1400 01:42:05.200 --> 01:42:06.040 She gets a Porsche. 1401 01:42:06.040 --> 01:42:09.040 She can get a Porsche of her choice up to 100K. 1402 01:42:09.040 --> 01:42:10.120 Yeah. 1403 01:42:10.120 --> 01:42:10.960 That's hilarious. 1404 01:42:10.960 --> 01:42:12.280 It's like a little business. 1405 01:42:12.280 --> 01:42:13.880 I'll buy you a Taycan almost straight out. 1406 01:42:13.880 --> 01:42:14.720 A little business thing. 1407 01:42:14.720 --> 01:42:16.360 I'll buy you a Taycan almost straight out, man. 1408 01:42:16.360 --> 01:42:18.720 Yeah, a little business thing. 1409 01:42:18.720 --> 01:42:20.400 A few business things. 1410 01:42:20.400 --> 01:42:21.240 A little trip. 1411 01:42:21.240 --> 01:42:22.080 That's cool. 1412 01:42:23.000 --> 01:42:26.320 We're going to just bring it in for a bit of a landing now, 1413 01:42:26.320 --> 01:42:27.920 but Matt, that was really cool. 1414 01:42:27.920 --> 01:42:29.960 And I think really, really valuable 1415 01:42:29.960 --> 01:42:33.760 because we've got lots of people who have just been 1416 01:42:33.760 --> 01:42:36.360 in the crypto space for ages and that's kind of their zone, 1417 01:42:36.360 --> 01:42:39.440 but it's really cool to see the process, the journey, 1418 01:42:39.440 --> 01:42:42.840 the mindsets, the wrestle of just like, 1419 01:42:42.840 --> 01:42:44.760 hey, this is what I was coupled to. 1420 01:42:44.760 --> 01:42:46.840 That was a really good word, decoupling. 1421 01:42:46.840 --> 01:42:51.760 And we are tomorrow going to unpack both of the platforms 1422 01:42:51.760 --> 01:42:54.920 that you're talking about with real clarity. 1423 01:42:54.920 --> 01:42:59.320 Some people who are absolutely rocking it in that space 1424 01:42:59.320 --> 01:43:02.520 who are impacting thousands of lives. 1425 01:43:02.520 --> 01:43:03.920 So we will actually, yeah, 1426 01:43:03.920 --> 01:43:06.240 we've got some real deep clarity coming on that 1427 01:43:06.240 --> 01:43:07.720 for people tomorrow. 1428 01:43:07.720 --> 01:43:10.960 Tomorrow really is the day where we start lighting up 1429 01:43:10.960 --> 01:43:13.680 for people, like how they can actually start 1430 01:43:13.680 --> 01:43:14.920 generating income streams. 1431 01:43:14.920 --> 01:43:17.800 Tomorrow really is the day of creating wealth, 1432 01:43:17.800 --> 01:43:19.080 like how to create wealth. 1433 01:43:19.080 --> 01:43:20.960 We've looked at shaping culture. 1434 01:43:20.960 --> 01:43:23.560 We've looked at reforming economic systems, 1435 01:43:27.960 --> 01:43:30.240 but actually it starts from the very next session. 1436 01:43:30.240 --> 01:43:32.240 I mean, we've got Karina coming in next 1437 01:43:32.240 --> 01:43:34.720 and she's going to be talking about, 1438 01:43:34.720 --> 01:43:36.760 this next session with Karina is amazing, right? 1439 01:43:36.760 --> 01:43:38.920 Because one of the things that you need, 1440 01:43:38.920 --> 01:43:42.120 which Matt's talking about, he's gone from, 1441 01:43:42.120 --> 01:43:43.800 I mean, this is phenomenal, right? 1442 01:43:43.800 --> 01:43:46.120 Gone from like, okay, I want to like figure out 1443 01:43:46.120 --> 01:43:48.800 some other options to potentially being able to retire 1444 01:43:48.800 --> 01:43:49.840 within two years. 1445 01:43:49.840 --> 01:43:51.800 I mean, you know, that is- 1446 01:43:51.800 --> 01:43:54.960 And really, that is really my track now. 1447 01:43:54.960 --> 01:43:55.800 Yeah. 1448 01:43:55.800 --> 01:43:58.800 Under 24 months from zero to hero. 1449 01:43:58.800 --> 01:44:00.920 Yeah, and that's really solid. 1450 01:44:00.920 --> 01:44:03.600 I mean, it's pretty wild to try and do that with a business, 1451 01:44:03.600 --> 01:44:07.200 but to have that happening through leveraged income 1452 01:44:07.200 --> 01:44:10.280 is a really wild, powerful, amazing thing. 1453 01:44:10.280 --> 01:44:12.720 But the thing is you have to have some capital. 1454 01:44:12.720 --> 01:44:14.720 Now, not everyone's going to have capital. 1455 01:44:14.720 --> 01:44:16.520 People are going to be in a different space 1456 01:44:16.520 --> 01:44:18.000 when it comes to capital. 1457 01:44:18.040 --> 01:44:20.600 And what we're going to really help people through 1458 01:44:20.600 --> 01:44:22.960 in the mentorship is, you know, 1459 01:44:22.960 --> 01:44:26.200 what's the best opportunity for you right now 1460 01:44:26.200 --> 01:44:30.640 in the context of what time do you have available? 1461 01:44:30.640 --> 01:44:32.800 What finances do you have available? 1462 01:44:32.800 --> 01:44:34.600 What resources do you have available? 1463 01:44:34.600 --> 01:44:36.080 What's the best fit for you? 1464 01:44:36.080 --> 01:44:38.680 So in the mentorship with Sebastian, 1465 01:44:38.680 --> 01:44:40.600 it's a 40-day mentorship, 1466 01:44:40.600 --> 01:44:43.720 and we'll be unpacking that more tomorrow as well, 1467 01:44:44.680 --> 01:44:46.440 what that actually will involve. 1468 01:44:46.480 --> 01:44:48.280 But one of the things we're going to help you identify 1469 01:44:48.280 --> 01:44:51.640 is what is the best opportunity for me right now? 1470 01:44:51.640 --> 01:44:54.040 Because you might be in a space where it's like, 1471 01:44:54.040 --> 01:44:56.720 yes, I want to do that, but I don't have capital. 1472 01:44:56.720 --> 01:45:00.120 Well, you've got less options if you don't have capital. 1473 01:45:00.000 --> 01:45:03.120 capital, but you've still got options, right? 1474 01:45:03.120 --> 01:45:05.520 So one of those options we're going to be talking about 1475 01:45:05.520 --> 01:45:08.560 with Karina right now is unpacking 1476 01:45:08.560 --> 01:45:11.040 how she's generating capital, 1477 01:45:11.040 --> 01:45:14.800 because, yeah, we're going to unpack that. 1478 01:45:14.800 --> 01:45:18.160 I won't let you in on everything right now, 1479 01:45:18.160 --> 01:45:21.760 but we're going to show you how if you've got no capital 1480 01:45:21.760 --> 01:45:24.560 and you want to generate really significant capital 1481 01:45:24.560 --> 01:45:27.040 that will give you opportunities to break open 1482 01:45:27.040 --> 01:45:28.560 all the other spaces, 1483 01:45:28.560 --> 01:45:31.120 then this session with Karina coming up, 1484 01:45:31.120 --> 01:45:33.440 basically right now is a session to figure out 1485 01:45:33.440 --> 01:45:36.520 how you can raise capital quickly, 1486 01:45:36.520 --> 01:45:39.440 and at the same time, gain a real awesome skillset. 1487 01:45:41.880 --> 01:45:43.920 I'll give you one little taste of it 1488 01:45:43.920 --> 01:45:44.760 of what we're going to uncover. 1489 01:45:44.760 --> 01:45:49.000 She's going to uncover how you can be staked 1490 01:45:49.000 --> 01:45:51.640 200,000 US dollars to trade with, 1491 01:45:51.640 --> 01:45:53.600 and get equipment for that, okay? 1492 01:45:53.600 --> 01:45:56.440 So, yeah, so we're going to, 1493 01:45:56.440 --> 01:45:58.080 you personally as an individual 1494 01:45:58.080 --> 01:46:00.480 can learn some skillsets that gets you staked 1495 01:46:00.480 --> 01:46:01.520 by a major company. 1496 01:46:01.520 --> 01:46:03.240 We're going to unpack what that looks like, 1497 01:46:03.240 --> 01:46:04.920 and then in the mentorship as well, 1498 01:46:04.920 --> 01:46:06.680 we're going to go even deeper and show people 1499 01:46:06.680 --> 01:46:08.800 how you can actually start to learn these skills 1500 01:46:08.800 --> 01:46:11.800 to get yourself staked 200,000 US dollars 1501 01:46:11.800 --> 01:46:14.280 so you can start generating capital right away. 1502 01:46:14.280 --> 01:46:17.080 So that's what the mentorship's going to be so available, 1503 01:46:17.080 --> 01:46:20.760 so good at, is just unpacking for people 1504 01:46:20.760 --> 01:46:23.160 what's the best opportunity for you right now, 1505 01:46:23.160 --> 01:46:24.160 how to jump into that. 1506 01:46:24.160 --> 01:46:28.640 So, Matt, mate, so stoked, so stoked for your journey, 1507 01:46:28.640 --> 01:46:31.520 so stoked for how well things are going for you, 1508 01:46:31.520 --> 01:46:34.720 and yeah, really, really excited about, you know, 1509 01:46:34.720 --> 01:46:36.920 just sharing the journey together going forward, 1510 01:46:36.920 --> 01:46:40.640 helping people in this space, so thanks, my man. 1511 01:46:42.160 --> 01:46:43.640 No worries, no worries at all. 1512 01:46:43.640 --> 01:46:46.080 Yeah, I always, like, I feel like I've got 1513 01:46:46.080 --> 01:46:47.840 a hundred other things I could say, 1514 01:46:47.840 --> 01:46:50.520 and you're trying to get it all out in a short session, 1515 01:46:50.520 --> 01:46:53.800 but just, I hope a few nuggets got across there, 1516 01:46:54.440 --> 01:46:57.080 and that's been valuable from someone, you know, 1517 01:46:57.080 --> 01:47:00.880 starting with lots or less, so all different places. 1518 01:47:01.720 --> 01:47:02.560 Yeah, actually, I think- 1519 01:47:02.560 --> 01:47:04.280 Just before you go, Matt, like, 1520 01:47:04.280 --> 01:47:06.720 how many streams of income do you have right now? 1521 01:47:08.200 --> 01:47:10.440 Four, possibly five. 1522 01:47:10.440 --> 01:47:12.280 I mean, I'm literally, every month, 1523 01:47:12.280 --> 01:47:17.280 discovering different things in LinkedIn, really. 1524 01:47:17.480 --> 01:47:21.240 LinkedIn is, man, just the people on LinkedIn 1525 01:47:21.240 --> 01:47:24.320 are business-oriented, but yeah, so four or five. 1526 01:47:25.840 --> 01:47:28.600 Amazing, I love it, so great. 1527 01:47:28.600 --> 01:47:30.720 Yeah, so cool, man, it's so cool to see that, 1528 01:47:30.720 --> 01:47:33.360 and I think you did our seven streams, 1529 01:47:33.360 --> 01:47:35.840 caught some of our seven streams conversation 1530 01:47:35.840 --> 01:47:37.920 earlier this rally, and so it's kind of fun. 1531 01:47:37.920 --> 01:47:39.360 Yeah, yeah, it's been great. 1532 01:47:39.360 --> 01:47:41.320 Yeah, I appreciate everything you do, it's awesome. 1533 01:47:41.320 --> 01:47:45.200 Like, you're, you know, you're opening stuff now 1534 01:47:45.200 --> 01:47:50.200 for people that maybe didn't even know what investing was, 1535 01:47:51.880 --> 01:47:53.600 you know, I've met people in the last two years, 1536 01:47:53.600 --> 01:47:55.720 they don't even know what investing is, 1537 01:47:55.720 --> 01:47:57.880 what, my money can make money, 1538 01:47:57.880 --> 01:48:00.800 and I don't have to work for money? 1539 01:48:00.800 --> 01:48:04.160 That's a foreign concept to them, 1540 01:48:04.160 --> 01:48:06.840 and you guys are facilitating the change for that, 1541 01:48:06.840 --> 01:48:08.280 you know, so it's powerful, man, 1542 01:48:08.280 --> 01:48:11.040 extremely powerful for the kingdom, 1543 01:48:11.040 --> 01:48:14.480 big thinking, huge thinking, like, 1544 01:48:14.480 --> 01:48:16.920 I just, I really admire what you guys are doing. 1545 01:48:16.920 --> 01:48:18.760 Great to be part of it, thanks for the invite. 1546 01:48:18.760 --> 01:48:19.760 Oh, please, my man. 1547 01:48:19.760 --> 01:48:22.320 Hey, how about you pray for, pray for us, 1548 01:48:22.320 --> 01:48:24.760 pray for our team, and then after this, 1549 01:48:24.760 --> 01:48:27.160 we're gonna jump live again, 1550 01:48:27.160 --> 01:48:30.880 we'll end the session, we'll be live just in moments 1551 01:48:30.880 --> 01:48:35.280 after this with Karina at 9 p.m. Pacific time, 1552 01:48:35.280 --> 01:48:37.720 6 p.m. New Zealand time, so in just seconds away. 1553 01:48:37.720 --> 01:48:39.880 So yeah, you pray for us, man, we're just so grateful, 1554 01:48:39.880 --> 01:48:42.800 and thank you again for sharing, really stoked. 1555 01:48:42.800 --> 01:48:44.600 No worries, appreciate that. 1556 01:48:44.600 --> 01:48:46.280 Lord, I just thank you for this time, 1557 01:48:46.280 --> 01:48:50.320 I just thank you for everyone watching, 1558 01:48:50.320 --> 01:48:54.000 for Benji's team, Lord God, I, yeah, we just, 1559 01:48:56.080 --> 01:48:58.920 Father, I just pray a fresh anointing, 1560 01:48:58.920 --> 01:49:02.280 a new level on what they do, 1561 01:49:02.280 --> 01:49:05.160 things that we'll explore from this weekend 1562 01:49:05.160 --> 01:49:08.760 that I wouldn't wanna pray that you'll be overwhelmed, 1563 01:49:08.760 --> 01:49:13.760 but Father, I just thank you for a flood of kingdom finance, 1564 01:49:13.760 --> 01:49:16.600 for kingdom initiatives, for kingdom things, 1565 01:49:16.600 --> 01:49:20.280 and we just rebuke that poverty mindset, 1566 01:49:20.280 --> 01:49:24.280 that poverty spirit that would just drop off people, 1567 01:49:24.280 --> 01:49:28.280 would just be washed away and replaced 1568 01:49:28.280 --> 01:49:32.480 with your thinking, Lord God, your ways, your Holy Spirit. 1569 01:49:32.480 --> 01:49:36.080 And yeah, Lord, I just thank you, Father, 1570 01:49:36.080 --> 01:49:39.120 you are so intimately interested and involved 1571 01:49:39.120 --> 01:49:42.240 in everything about us, including our finance, 1572 01:49:42.280 --> 01:49:44.400 and I just thank you, people, you've got, 1573 01:49:44.400 --> 01:49:45.520 people are on a journey, 1574 01:49:45.520 --> 01:49:47.200 they would just come on another click, 1575 01:49:47.200 --> 01:49:51.320 and as Jesus prayed for people and talked to people, 1576 01:49:51.320 --> 01:49:55.320 he was able to move them on all one letter in the alphabet 1577 01:49:55.320 --> 01:49:58.360 from wherever they are, so wherever people are today, 1578 01:49:58.360 --> 01:49:59.480 pray a blessing. 1579 01:50:00.000 --> 01:50:07.200 pray increase, I pray another level for you and I just thank you, I just thank you Lord for the 1580 01:50:07.200 --> 01:50:15.600 future you have for all the people involved in and around raising royalty in Jesus name. 1581 01:50:16.640 --> 01:50:22.640 Amen. Amen. Thanks so much Marine, bless you. Bless you, thanks Benji, enjoyed it. 1582 01:50:22.640 --> 01:50:26.240 So good bud, we'll catch you soon. Bye.