Okay, ladies and gentlemen, I believe we are live, it's a, oh, look at this, we are, it's
happening right now, session 20, and we're here with Marieke and Seth, oh, guys, how
are you feeling? Marieke, how are you doing? Where are you in the world? I'm doing amazing.
Thank you, Benji. This is a huge opportunity, and I'm so excited about this. I'm in beautiful
sunny Florida, but I am originally from South Africa. Quite amazing story how God just super
naturally opened up doors for us to move to the States, and it's been quite a journey.
We've been three years in the States now, and the journey has been tough, but beautiful
all in one, and all the honor and glory goes to God, and yeah, just beautiful, sunny Florida.
So cool. Sam, how are you doing, bud? Yeah, I'm doing good. I'm doing good. Sun is shining.
Last day of the conference. I haven't felt this, like, conference vibe for a long time,
you know? It's like, it's a good vibe, you know, when you wake up on the third day,
and you're like, oh yeah, I know this is going to be glorious, but I'm also feeling the burn,
you know? It's just such that glorious conference feeling, so we're doing good. We're doing good.
So good. Hey, hello to everyone, and I'm back in the zone as well. I've been able to stream,
so coming to you through my page, and back to the online School of Sonship as well,
and good to be streaming with you guys. So wherever you are in the world, say hello,
and say hi, Marieke. You are going to love her. She's an absolute genius. We're so honored to
have her with us, and she has been pioneering some absolutely exceptional tech and opportunities.
Yeah, and oh, just so good morning. Good morning. Drop in the comments where in the world you are,
what time it is, and how you're vibing on session 20. What an adventure.
So man, I just feel like we are in such a beautiful space, and
wow. So I'm excited to pray, and to let loose into this session. So Marieke, why don't you
start for us, and we'll all have a little prayer, and get ready for what's going to be
an absolutely reformational, revolutionary, and exciting session.
Amen. Thank you, Jesus. We just want to come here, and we want to honor you for this glorious time
that you have given us, Father. Father, I want to bring Benji and Seb to you today,
and I just want to honor them for laying down their lives to disciple nations. In order to
give us skill sets, tools, and automations to really bring the kingdom of heaven down to earth,
Father. We just want to ask that each and every viewer, and each and every speaker's lives will
be filled with your truth, with your justice, with your glory, and your honor. We worship and
praise your holy name, Jesus, and we love you. Whoa, come on. Amen. Go for it, Seb.
Oh, you're on the mute factor.
It's awesome. There we go. Well, good morning, everyone. It's great to be with you. This
space of what we're about to deep dive into is just as captured by attention in my mind,
but I think if I'm being totally honest, I think it's also captured a part of my heart.
I think there's a space where we've talked a lot about the systems of the world and the
corruption and all the different things going on, but I think beautifully inside this conversation
about cryptocurrency, there's a real heartbeat of redemption. There's been this centralized
solution, and now there's a decentralized solution where power comes back to the people.
And I just feel like this whole conversation has been birthed in the heart of God,
and that there's so much opportunity in life.
I find that because it's been birthed in the heart of God. And
so, Mark, I love this, what we're about to deep dive into,
but but give us a little bit of a background before we jump deep
into it. What? Where, where are you in the world in terms of
business? Like, you know, you've been you've done a lot of
different things.
I just want to interrupt there for a second, just because we've
got heaps of people saying hi from all over the world. So
South Africa, Pakistan, New Zealand, Colorado. Oh, Thomas
skillet right from the bottom of the South and the cargo.
Hello. Hello. So hello, everyone. Rebecca, Linda, Paul,
Catherine, I'm not catching everyone. Even sorry, Danny,
Aretha, all of you beautiful people. We love you. We want to
honor everyone went on a hunger. You guys are just on fire. And
so so cool tracking with you all. So we just want to say we
love you. And then the people on the other streaming channels as
well. We love you. So yeah, massive love to everyone. What a
delight to be sharing this adventure together. So we just
want to really say we love you guys. And just so so cool.
Sharing an adventure together on this. So yeah, back to you.
Yeah, love it. Very cool. Well, Mark, what what were the what
led you to where you are now? You know what, what you've been
on a bit of a journey with business with kingdom business
and the whole story. Give us a little bit of insight and tell
us you know, how did how did you get to here before we jump into
what here exactly is? How did you get here?
Sure, definitely. There has been a lot of fails a lot of try try
sessions and a lot of failure to get here. But it's amazing.
It's amazing to look back at your life and see God's hand and
protection all over. So yes, three years ago, and my husband
lost his business back in South Africa. And we tried to get a
job for him. I've been in the car sales industry my whole adult
career for more than 15 years selling cars. And I just
couldn't see myself doing anything else. Sometimes you are
so cooped up in your own little small world that you cannot see
anything outside of the box. And sometimes God needs to take
you outside of that box so that he can really start dreaming so
that you can really start dreaming within and so that you
can really start living the dreams of your life. So
sometimes desperate needs call for desperate measures. So we
lost everything and we couldn't find a job for for my husband
back in South Africa. And for three months, we were searching
all over couldn't find anything. Someone mentioned the
states in agriculture, we should maybe look into that option. It
just took a couple of weeks and God open up steps super
naturally for us to move to the States like an illiteral couple
of weeks. And in that timeframe, for the first time God start
showing me dreams and visions. Because moving to the States
meant we have to leave everything we know and trust and
love behind family, friends, colleagues, business, work
partners, everything that we have built our whole life. I
mean, me and Ricky grew up and we were born and raised in the
same little small town. We never moved anywhere else outside of
that little small town. So for us to back up and leave and move
continents away, that is quite drastic. So if it wasn't for the
visions, the dreams that God gave us, I would surely not have
done it. So in that process, God gave us dreams and visions. We
arrived in the States with nothing besides one small little
suitcase case each with personal belongings and clothes. We had
to sell all of our last personal belongings to pay for the plane
tickets. And we arrived here at the farmer's farm with just a
shell of an house, which is an abandoned farmhouse. We had
nothing. He only gave us one bed. And we had to live in that
conditions. We had to start all over. We had to buy our own
kitchenware, own couches, own washing and dryer, own
everything. We had literally nothing. We had no money, no
finances, no friends. We're driving on the wrong side of the
road. The accent is terrible. I cannot understand what the
people are saying. Every time I'll go somewhere, they'll find
a Mexican, someone to come and translate. And then I'm like,
no, sorry, I'm not Mexican. But I mean, sometimes you need to
empty yourself so that God can build you up. And if you're in
that, if you're so
surrounded by frameworks of what your parents, what your family, what your friends, what your
colleagues are thinking about you. You've got certain mindsets that you are not able to get
away from. So yeah, something drastic needs to happen so that you can really start thinking
outside of the box and so that God can start working with you. Let me let me jump in there
because so often God works in a storm and people don't recognize that that's one of God's love
languages is the storm. Let me give you an example of God's love language being the storm is in the
story of so many kings that start with J. King Jehoshaphat. King Jehoshaphat, right? King
Jehoshaphat, there he is, they're having a lovely day and then all of a sudden they discover that
three armies have mobilized to come to wipe them off the face of the earth. And these three
armies are coming to absolutely annihilate everyone. They want to kill everyone. I mean,
that's not a good day when you're the king and three armies band together and they want to kill
everyone and take everything you have and end your story. It's not a great day. But anyway,
they pray, they fast. And here's what's so cool is they set worshipers out in front of them and
they go into army, go into battle, completely outnumbered, right? Completely outnumbered.
They go into battle in worship and God supernaturally set ambushes. And I want to just
say supernatural, supernatural, supernatural, because we need to start really expecting the
supernatural hand of God to be upon us as the people of God in the earth, like the hand of
God was upon Israel. You know, 2 Corinthians 3 says that which came with glory, which is Moses,
now has no glory in comparison with the surpassing glory. So I want to say that start getting ready
for surpassing glory. What we saw on Mount Sinai where the glory of God came as a fire and burnt,
literally charred the top of Mount Sinai, not the fake tourist Mount Sinai, the real one that's
guarded by armies because they don't want you to actually go and see the real Mount Sinai that's
charred with rocks. You break a rock open on the outside, it's burnt to a crisp on the inside,
it's a normal rock because the glory of God came. And I want to say supernatural, start getting
ready to see the supernatural favor of God, opening up opportunities, releasing grace,
releasing provision from heaven like we've never seen before. So these three armies are coming
against them and their response in the face of the impossible is to go out and worship and God
sets ambushes and the two small armies band together and take out the massive army. Then
the two small armies turn on each other and they wipe themselves out to the last man. And what's
left over is that they have to spend three days with the entire army of Israel just to carry away
the plunder. We might not realize this sometimes, but when God wants to bless us,
he might be thinking, man, how can I take riches, wealth, weapons, supplies, how can I get all this
to Jehoshaphat? He's like, I know, I'll get three armies to carry it all to him, carry it all the
way to his nation, deliver it right at his doorstep. But it looks like there's an
army, it looks like there's a storm coming, but there's always a blessing in the blind side. I just
want to declare that over everyone right now and everything that we're going through. You want to
see the blessing in the blind side before the breakthrough, because then you get to walk and
worship in the midst of the process. You get to live in delight in the midst of the process,
not living in stress through the process, living in delight through the process. And you will
fast track your breakthrough. So I just want to declare that over everyone. There's a blessing
in the blind side. And when you see it before the breakthrough, you get to live in a posture
of delight, which expedites and actually accelerates and multiplies the breakthrough
that you're going to see. So that's us, fam. I just feel so much favor and that sense of
surpassing glory in the hand of God on us right now for supernatural solutions. So yeah, Marike,
carry on with your beautiful story. Wow. The journey has just been so amazing. And to
see that God's glory is in the midst of the storm is so beautiful. And I can remember the exact
moment when I started really, when your story and your teachings, Benji, really changed my life.
When we moved to the States, we traveled a bit from farmer to farmer to better opportunities.
And it was really difficult. And I can remember the morning and there was a time frame when we
moved from Memphis to Nebraska. And I was at such a low place because I felt like I had no purpose.
I'm not working.
I'm just a housewife and we are we are so poor we have we don't have money, we are just barely
scraping by and I have no idea what I'm going to do with my life. I have no idea where I'm going,
what I'm going to do next to generate some income and I can remember there was a stage when I didn't
even get out of bed during the day. I would the the bus would come and get the kids at the house
and Ricky will leave early in the morning to go and work and I'll just climb back into bed and I'll
just try myself to sleep and I will just be in the bed doing nothing and being so hopeless that
I couldn't see any light at the end of the tunnel and I was scrolling through Facebook and I and I
joined the embassy that time and it was it was still when UNSAFE was in the birth of Raising
Royalty and you guys were just in the beginning and so it was just the embassy at that stage and
I was scrolling through your free content and I came across across the Raising Royalty series,
the five part video series. Oh come on, I remember this. That you had there stuck away, I think you had
done that series a year ago already but it was free content that I could access on the
embassy page and what really really made a fundamental change in my mindset is the story
about how Queen Elizabeth and Prince Charles raised their kids in comparison how we as
Christians raise ours like Christians are raised to to get a job to get a college degree and to
work where royalty is raised with with all of this wealth and they are raised on how to steward
this wealth and I mean we are royalty and that thing of yours is probably one of the biggest
fundamental cornerstones in my mindset change that happened yeah in that at that very low
hopeless point and I just really want to honor you about that. I don't know if you maybe want to give
some comments on that series or do you want me to continue? Yeah I mean I'll just
very briefly say that this is the shift that we want to make and you know God specifically
spoke to me and said I want to retrain you as a king. How good is that right? This journey that
we're on so much of it is a spiritual journey yeah because it's the renewing of your mind
I think what I needed to discover in my journey first was sonship actually get re-established in
my identity and we talk about lack-based mindsets around finance but you can have
lack-based mindsets spiritually lack-based mindsets around your identity that cause you
to believe you're inadequate that you're not enough you know and when people think they're
not enough they have questions about whether or not they're worthy of finance or do they deserve
to be broke does this what they just have well no you are you are worthy you have a five-star
calling you are worthy you know you are a member of the royal family of the universe and you are
you know like you are a co-heir with Christ you're seated in heavenly places with the king of kings
and the lord of lords so royalty is who you are you're mandated to disciple nations and this is
what God really wants to help us discover is that you know we are royalty and and we can expect a
royal inheritance a royal portion a royal destiny we have royal calling and it involves stewarding
massive wealth it involves discipling nations I mean so and that it was the beginning of our
journey so I've reached out to you Benji we became friends we became partners we just in the way back
in the beginning of um the birth of raising royalty I've been so it's been two years now
right and that has just been the best journey of my life so it's three years later now since
we moved into this or entered into the states and I'm literally living living out our dream
and I always had this dream and even as a young girl to live on a tropical island and to become
a beach bum eventually and just surf and lay on the beach and drink cocktails and I'm pretty
close to it Florida's not a island like an island island but it's a very island lifestyle and we
currently live in the number one beach in South Africa in the states with white sandy beaches
turquoise waters and it's just beautiful so that is two years later and I mean it's just
unbelievable and this change that we've been through the minds that change the the maturity
I mean it's been painful and me and Ricky has had this discussion several times with our kids if we
had to turn back time and if we would have given this option all over again
in, we would do it in a heartbeat. We would go through all of that humiliation. We would go
through all of that pain and suffering to be in a place where God can really work with you.
So we would choose this route over and over again. And it is just amazing. And I'm so honored and so
grateful to be journeying with you guys and to be part of this movement. And I am so honored.
That's so cool. Hey, one thing would be cool just to touch on very briefly is even with
the Raising Royalty journey, so much of it is about helping people actually dare to dream
their wildest dreams and actually started to step into it. And that's what actually got you to
Florida. I mean, it's really difficult to preach something, not preach, let me rephrase. It's
difficult to try and help someone, how can I say, live out their dreams if you haven't even done it
yourself? So it's baby steps that you need to take and simple things by just moving to the
beach. A simple thing, which is a practical, everyday lifestyle thing. So if you can accomplish
the small things, you can really then start envisioning the nations. Because it's really for
me as a person, and I think probably for everyone else, it's really difficult to have really big
visions, if you're struggling to just live out your normal, simple dreams that you have.
And that really encouraged me with each and every step and move that we make since
I was journeying with you, Benji, with the mindset shifts, it was the science of dreams with
Raising Royalty, and just all the skill sets that you've taught us was through all of that
to actually see that manifest in my life. It's extraordinary. Yeah.
And one thing that we won't touch on today, but Marika is also a Facebook marketing genius and
has helped us. It was so key, her influence in Raising Royalty is running all of our Facebook
marketing was so key to helping us scale to do over seven figures. That's how we were
able to scale really quickly from just having a small amount of cash to being able to do over
seven figures in sales in a short space of time that she was really, really critical.
Seven, Marika and I were like the crew that were really behind the scenes building that,
doing that and making that happen. We'll talk later about high ticket sales, which is actually
the key to scalability. But that'll be seven later in the day, which is gonna be awesome. So
Marika, why don't you unpack for us a little bit about the spot space that you're in now?
Yeah, sure. So throughout my journey, I've never seen myself outside of car sales.
And it's so beautiful to journey into something else because I was so tired of the car sales.
And if I would walk into the supermarket to do grocery shopping with our small community,
everyone will always stop me and ask me what specials do we have on cars? What deals can
I make for them? So you are so sometimes structured and molded in a way what your
community thinks about you, that you yourself cannot think in any other space than this.
And that is just so beautiful for me to have been lifted out of that space into a brand new
area so that you can really start expanding and stretching your mindset and skill sets.
So just in this space, a cryptocurrency has been something that I've been intrigued in for
a very long time. So I've just always I love learning, I love researching, I love looking
up new ways to generate automated income. Automation, baby, that's the winning part.
You can really start living out the dreams of your life. If you have this automated system that can
really generate cash for you on a daily basis, how beautiful is that so that you can really
start focusing. Hourly basis. Hourly minute basis, every minute basis. Yes, this is just amazing.
So I am so honored and this is definitely a godsend and a vision and a dream and something
that has been burning in my heart. And I came across this really amazing software
and tools and skill sets on how to utilize cryptocurrencies with automations and bots
so that you because of cryptocurrency that is so volatile in the market and it's going up and down
unpredictable continuously. That is exactly what we want. But for your normal trader and a normal
investor, that is not ideal. But for what we are doing with the bots, that is exactly what we're
looking for. We are looking for that volatility.
And even if the market is crashing,
even though the cryptocurrency is in a downward spiral,
our automation is still producing profits on a daily basis.
So this is really an awesome space to enter in.
And I'm so excited to be in this space
and just really educating myself on how to master this.
And what I've seen so far is just unbelievable.
Unbelievable.
So like deep dive for a second, right?
This is a system where I can make money in crypto,
from crypto, even if Bitcoin or Ethereum is going down.
That's mind blowing for some people
because the volatility of the market
is what scares people away from Bitcoin
and all other forms of cryptocurrency.
So deep dive into that for a second.
Let me jump in on that too, Seb.
Here's how I like to explain bots,
for people to understand how bots work
and in relationship to crypto.
So cryptocurrency, if you think about it,
it's like buying a rental property, right?
So if you buy a rental property,
a lot of times people buy it for capital gains, right?
So with real estate, people buy it for capital gains.
With crypto, people buy it for capital gains.
So that's their expectation is,
I'm gonna buy this for the long-term gain,
I'm gonna sell it in say, like a year or so.
And while you have fluctuations in general,
cryptocurrency is actually going up, it's an upward trend.
And so it keeps on increasing in value.
You're right, it has that volatility
on the way of ups and downs all the way through.
So what happens is people buy cryptocurrency,
they hold it and then they stress out, right?
Because they might've just put $100,000 in
or $10,000 or $1,000 and like, oh my gosh,
even $100, whatever amount you put in,
you see the percentage going up and down
on almost a minute by minute basis, it's doing that.
And so people do actually get pretty stressed out
buying cryptocurrency because they're like,
oh no, it's fluctuating in price.
But if you think about it like a rental property,
a bot is like a tenant.
So what the bot does is every time the price fluctuates
just a little bit,
a little bit like what Karina is doing
with trading the NASDAQ,
every time it goes up and down,
it's buying low, selling high, buying low, selling high,
buying low, selling high at like just rapid speed.
It's just always buying low, selling high.
So basically if you've got cryptocurrency,
but you don't have a bot on it,
it's like having a rental property with no tenant.
So yes, if you have real estate,
you can get the capital gains long-term,
but if you have a bot,
it's like putting a tenant into that property
and you're getting rent.
So the bots basically print us money every hour
and they're just printing us money,
whether the price is going up or down,
the bots are printing us money every hour.
So yeah, Marie.
Beautifully said, that is exactly,
that is probably the best way
to explain this cryptocurrency bot automation, definitely.
So yes, you wanted to say Seth, sorry.
I'm just saying you jump in,
tell us about that from your perspective.
If you guys would like to do,
can I do a screen share for us now?
Yeah, absolutely, jump into it, let's go.
This is the moment, everyone,
I'm pretty sure everyone's saying shout out
if you want to see a screen share.
And yeah, let's see how this is working.
I mean, actually,
we've got such a great example here as well.
So I've got friends this week who,
yeah, Jimmy's saying a rental property
will only get you 5% yield in a year.
So I've got some friends who had a bunch of Ethereum,
they had over 100,000 US dollars in Ethereum
and they transferred it to us into our crypto bank.
So we've got a crypto bank,
which basically means people can transfer us crypto
or they can buy crypto and bank it with us.
And we'll put a bot on it
and trade it for you automatically
so you can get in on this gig of just printing money.
But everyone this week who's got Ethereum,
they're like, oh no,
we're like, our price has gone down,
our value has gone down 5% or whatever.
But look, I mean, it's hard to,
I don't know if you can zoom in on that.
I can a little, let's see quickly.
Let's see if you can zoom in on it.
friends like everyone else who's holding there you go and again if you can um no that's okay
all right that's all right um everyone else who's holding ethereum say they're big holders of
ethereum or whatever and there's lots that are they were just all worried about oh no the value's
gone down but as soon as my friends put their ethereum in our bank they'd printed 50 us dollars
in the first three hours and now this week they you know that's 437 that they've printed in
four days so they're printing on average over 100 us dollars a day in rent you think about
that on a rental property right like that's 700 us dollars a day a week that's over a thousand
new zealand dollars a week in rent off a hundred thousand dollar investment i mean you can't make
that much off a rental property even if ethereum is down um in a bearish cycle at this stage
you're still printing money and that is with all of the other coins too so ethereum and
bitcoin is the more mature coin so they don't um give that much return on a daily basis because
they're more matured but if you go to your shiba coins and your polymath and your emin
emin r coins which is your newer coins which is not so matured like your gold and silver in in
cryptocurrencies you're looking at that kind of daily daily profits so if you take that nmr one
which is the highest one in the middle which is standing on 0.84 percent per day return so if you
0.84 times 30 so that one's producing at this current state a stage 25 a month
for doing nothing for having it on automation so let's just really let that sink in for a second
your money is sitting there with bots and it's making money while you're doing nothing
pretty much and well not pretty much that's exactly it that's exactly what you're doing
this system prints money on automation
and this bot profit it is being paid out into your exchange immediately so that money is available
to spend immediately so it unfortunately it's not doing compounding of the interest the compounding
will have to be done manually um so people understand compounding means when you put the
money back into the box right so we're really clear yeah this is crazy so listen what we do
just so people like um someone asked what does bot stand for it doesn't stand for anything it's a bot
um robot you know yeah digital bot is a digital robot and computer artificial intelligence yeah so
this this is is awesome by itself but what we've been talking about in this journey as well is
is like mindsets of the elite around wealth which is they don't eat their seed you know like royalty
don't just rush out and eat their seed what they do is before they spend a dollar they make sure
that dollar has multiplied multiple times we wonder why you know the you know wealthiest people in the
just attract money or you wonder why billionaires go bankrupt and then they can just bounce back and
you know not like not go not become millionaires again but become billionaires again that's crazy
right how many i read you know this week that most millionaires in the states go bankrupt
three point on average 3.5 times uh you know in their lifetime that's crazy right but it's the
mindset that just like i assume well i'll just make another million dollars next week i mean i
had a friend who did that he just bought a property low sold it high made a million dollars in a week
and he's like sweet i'm going to do something cool for the kingdom with a million dollars
um but if you go back there to these bots because we we minimize you know like we spread the risk by
uh having multiple different bots but i want you guys to ask yourselves how much money does
your bank give you you know what percentage per year does your bank give you as a return
you know like nothing right and the percentage of return that your bank gives you
can't keep up with inflation. So there's multiple factors when you've got money in the bank. Right
now banks are showing their true colors that if you don't have the same value system as them,
they'll freeze your money. So that's a huge deal. Banks don't like you, they'll freeze your money.
But also inflation, your money in a bank is not keeping up with inflation, they are using it to
make at least a 350% return on your money. At least, that's their minimum that they're going
to make off your money is a 350% return, but they won't even give you, you know, 10%, 5% a year.
But when you take this, so you can see here what Mirek's showing you is, yes,
what have we got here? 80.85%, this is nearly 1% a day. I mean, this is crazy what that is
actually returning. Our worst one here, right, which is just ticking along at 0.15%.
Now, you can see ETH here is down to 0.08%. But ETH and Bitcoin, like Mirek said, are not what
we call wiggling coins, they're more of a stable coin. Most people get them just for the capital
gains, but you can still print money off them. And like my friends are doing, even at 0.08%,
they're going to be printing over $1,000 a week in New Zealand, you know, about $700 a week at
the moment, even though it's down this low at 0.08%, it's often higher than that, but they're
still printing money. But the power of it is when you bring it into compounding it, right, so you
could leave your money in, you know, put money in there and just take it out all the time,
or you could actually leave it in there. Now, let me just do a quick calculation with you guys.
So you had $10,000. And you were making, let's say you were making 10% a month, 10% a month is
really, really good, you might not make that much. But let's just say you made 10% a month,
and you let it compound, just say you let it compound for five years, maybe you were thinking
of, hey, let me make an investment for my kid, or for my future. And you compound $10,000 at
10% interest for five years, what you'll have in 10 years off $10,000 is over $3 million
in five years, right? That's more than you probably even earn in a day job in five years.
And from a $10,000 investment, if you compound it, that's at 10% a month. So when you see
the returns here, I mean, this is 25% a month, this is doing us at the 8.5, you know, 0.85% a day,
that's, yeah, 25% a month. So we're not expecting that we'll get that on every bot,
but we're getting it on that one. And there's quite a few that you are. But if you were doing
that 25% monthly for five years, and you calculate that, that becomes, and now brace yourself,
because this is what the wealth mindset understands. A $10,000 investment, anyone,
and maybe drop some guesses down, right, of what you think this might compound to.
But a $10,000 investment with a 25% return on, you know, per month,
over five years, any guesses, Seb, Marieke, what might that become?
$10 million? I don't know. No, that's probably too much.
Quite nice, right? Just chuck a number out, any number.
$10 million.
$10 million, Seb?
Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, maybe a little bit more conservative. $5 million?
Okay. $6,525,304,468. Over $6.5 billion.
Okay, so play that out again for us real slow.
Okay, okay. So what I'm trying to talk to you about, and trying to unpack for you,
is the velocity of money, which is what very few people understand.
When you're working a nine to five, it's not part of the nine to five mindset.
I'll slow the calculation really down, really slow.
I'll slow it down.
If you invested $10,000 and if that $10,000,
if you could find somewhere where you returned 25% per month
on that investment,
and if you compounded your returns every month
and you did that for five years,
this is where you start to experience
the power of the velocity of money.
And your $10,000 investment,
compounding at 25% per month over five years
would become $6,525,304,468.
$6,525,304,468.
Wowzer.
Wowzer is correct.
And the thing is, what this,
now you do it for another year, right?
You may be like, oh, I don't know,
maybe I'll hold onto that.
Maybe I'll do that for another year.
And what this is showing you is two things
that are absolutely critical
in the velocity of money, all right?
I mean, this goes crazy.
If you do that for one more year,
it goes from $6.5 billion
to $94 billion, $950 billion.
$955,666,457.60.
What this highlights to you is there's two things
that are absolutely critical,
that are critical factors
when you are looking at the velocity of money,
it's time and money, all right?
So the time is where things start
to get really exponential,
even if you're compounding for two months,
you know, it doesn't really, it's not a big deal,
but compounding, even if you only have a small amount
of capital or even a lower return,
if you have time, this is where you have the capacity
to really generate and unlock the power
of the velocity of money.
And that's why I'm suggesting,
you know, like a wealth mindset is like,
I think we've got it all wrong
in terms of how we do money with our kids
and how we do like our inheritance, right?
Our inheritance, I think it's all backwards.
I think, you know, we have this mindset of,
hey, we wanna really make sure we raise our kids,
you know, to earn their money and do all that.
And, you know, I mean, there's some real benefit
in doing hard things and training kids to do hard things.
I tell my kids that as your dad,
that's one of my most important jobs
is to get you to do hard things as often as possible,
as hard as possible, to challenge them, to grow them,
to build character and strength and willpower.
But we make it harder than it needs to be
in terms of finances because we have this mindset, right?
And this is one of the, like the flip the script
on the royal mindsets.
The first 20 years, you're gonna be a broke student.
What?
That's so unnecessary.
What if we had this mindset
that instead of our kids being broke students,
we spend that first 20 years investing for them?
Now, let's look at this.
Let's just imagine we did,
let's just imagine we put $1,000 aside, right?
For our kids.
And let's just say, okay, it's a 5% return.
I would just say, let's just say a 2% return per month,
but we'll do it over 20 years, all right?
So $1,000, you put it aside with a 2% monthly return
over 20 years, and your $1,000 would become $115,000, right?
So your kid could start off with from a thou,
now that's because you've got only a 2%.
Let's look at if you can get a 3% monthly return on that.
And let's just see what happens to the power
as you start to unlock the velocity of money here
is it goes, listen, the power of a monthly percentage,
if you increase from 2% a month to 3% a month in 20 years,
the return goes from your thousand becoming 100,000
to becoming 1.2 million.
So when we're looking at these little percentages here,
even this one here that's not doing very well at 0.15%,
that's still, what is that?
3%, 4.5%. Yeah, it's still 4.5% a month, right on the one that's
doing the worst. So if you did, if you did 4.5% over 20 years,
for get off your $1,000 investment. Calculating that
now, that becomes that $1,000 becomes over $38 million. So
there's a few things to really consider here, if you want to
maximize the power of the velocity of money, it's, you
know, like how much capital do you put in, that's part of it.
But actually, the amount of capital you have is not the big
deal. The next thing that's important is how much interest
can you how much return can generate on a monthly basis. And
then the third thing is time. Now, if we take the first 20
years of a kid's life, and instead of saying you're going
to be a poor student, we start making investments for them. By
the time they leave school, they can actually be set up as a
multimillionaire, through something that's completely
automated, they actually didn't do anything for if you can find
the right opportunity. So I hope that just kind of helps expand
some mindsets in terms of the power of the velocity of money,
the way that royalty think about money, if you're going to
retrain yourself as a king, or as a queen to think about money,
you're not thinking about what money can I get on a weekly
basis, just to spend to live off, you're thinking, what's the
power of this money if I reinvest? Yeah.
A couple people have been asking the question, how many bots can
I have going at once? And maybe one of you could talk a little
bit about the strategy of number of bots versus, you know, the
money in different places, things like that.
So for for us on the program, and you get different, you can
do five bots as is the most common one, or you can go up to
20 bots. And it all there's a lot of aspects that go into this
system. So I think I'm just giving a rundown of the basic
things you need to have certain amounts to for all of the
settings to work together. And that is what we are doing on our
side. But diversity is key. And because there's so many
different coin pairs, I mean, there is over 8000 different
cryptocurrency coins. And so there's a lot of research that
goes into this to make sure that we find the correct coins, and
that we can actually find coins that is wiggling enough to spit
out a decent amount of profit on a daily basis. So there's a lot
of technical things that goes into it. But yes, it varies from
from person to person and how much you can invest. But we are
going to have 20 bots at the end and running on a regular basis.
Cool, cool. Well, it's in this screen share, and we're going to
bring it in for a landing now. But what, what I want to say is
that very, very few people will ever go through the amount of
expense and amount of time and amount of challenge that's
required to actually figure out how to run bots. Okay, so that's
not a real simple process. It's quite a, it's a very in depth
technical process learning about bots with, with the mentorship.
If you're a person who thinks, man, I really want to master bots
for myself, then you can do that. Like Marieke will teach
you not how to not she won't teach you how to actually master
the bots because that is like, you know, like months of full
time training to actually master how to run bots yourself. But in
the mentorship, what Marieke will do if, if there's people
who really want to master bots, and it's a it's a really good
profession to master if you want to do that, she'll show you,
okay, here's the way to fast track your learning process to
actually start learning about how to become how to run your
own bots. But I'm just going to say straight off the bat, most
people will never ever figure out how to run bots. This is not
a simple thing. It's not cheap. And it takes a lot of time and
you have to basically fully immerse yourself in it way more
so than the NASDAQ trading to get to be able to come to that
place of being able to automate it, you have to get fully
immersed in that space and be able to do it. So what we're
wanting to do for people is create the opportunity for
people to give bait we've created it. We've created a
private crypto bank, it's just an in the house thing. Now it's
not for everyone.
it's this crypto bank that we've created is for people who are in the raising royalty inner circle
and Steve and I are going to finish with that in our last session today is like how you can join
the inner circle and there's so many crazy benefits of joining the inner circle that I
think that when you understand what it is you'll be like man this is actually not even that expensive
it's a crazy opportunity there's so many benefits from it and we're going to be unpacking that in
our last session and we're going to talk about the power of high ticket sales will create
opportunities for you to make thousands of dollars in a single sale that actually fast
tracks you towards generating leverage which then you can you know like you can raise capital
through our system then you could bank it and then we can steward it for you and help you generate
you know expensive returns on that through the power of compounding returns so the crypto banking
is going to be the easiest option I would say that 99.99 percent of people would be more in
the space of crypto banking rather than actually learning how to run crypto bots so the crypto
banking what that's going to mean is that you can actually just either you know like you can if
you're in the raising royalty inner circle we've got a private in-house opportunity where you can
actually bank with us and we'll trade the crypto for you just like our friends we've got people in
there in that bank who are printing money and we'll talk you through the details of exactly
what that looks like and yeah but our friends who are in there who have their crypto in the bank
are just printing money right now
sounds awesome awesome excited so I was going to cover something really exciting in this session
and I think we're gonna I'm gonna try and do this really really quickly in less depth than I was
hoping to but I want to share with you a strategy of how this has so much power to help you raise
capital if you want to start a business if you want to start a missions fund if you want to start
a not-for-profit project there's so much power and leverage that people don't understand
um Kathy's asking what do you mean printing money well uh exactly that our bots buy and sell
the trade like on a constant minute by minute basis and they produce a profit and that profit
goes straight into our crypto wallet so basically they print money so that's exactly what it is
is they're trading for us an automated basis so I'll come back to my you know I'll come back here
and look at um the trading thing and I'm like oh man we just made money like I wake up in the
morning like cool we printed money it's just the bots are making us money completely automated now
we have a lot of work that goes on in the back end to set that up for success um so we do do a lot of
work um in the back end and then we set it up for success we put a bot on it and then the bots get
busy so um I'm going to talk to you now about and I'm going to do this real quick because we
got a next session coming right off the back of this here's the classic scenario entrepreneurs
raise some money some startup capital to launch their new enterprise they get that maybe they
raise two million dollars and then they take that two million dollars and they spend it on
launching the enterprise and then once they've spent that they're immediately under pressure
to start making sales to pay back investors to pay staff to cover operating costs and so what
that means is there's a large risk for the investors is putting their money in there
what if they don't make sales what if this goes belly up everyone's going to lose their money
there's pressure on everyone you know there's pressure on the investors they're feeling the risk
pressure on the entrepreneurs pressure on everyone and money can be tight and it's like ah
right what if you change that what if you flip the script and you approach this more from
a wealth mindset right which is say you had a way of generating five percent monthly returns
which I mean what you can see here is you know some of our bots at the moment are producing 25
a month some of them are producing 4.5 so it's pretty you know pretty achievable for us to reach
a five percent return so what if you raise two million dollars and instead of spending that on
your startup what if you just banked it right you bank two million dollars into a crypto bank like
what we've created
and then you produce 5% a month, it's $100,000.
And instead of raising your $2 million capital
and spending it all and then being under massive pressure,
you raise $2 million capital, you bank it,
and all of a sudden you've already produced
$100,000 return a month.
And maybe you produce 7% or 8%,
and then you let that extra 3% compound on your capital
and you run off 5%, $100,000 a month.
And what you've actually done there
is you've now created next to a zero risk
investment opportunity for your investors.
There's no pressure on the entrepreneurs.
And listen, before you've even sold anything,
because you understand the velocity of money
and you've banked your money
and your money's making money for you
before you even start your business,
you don't even have to sell anything
for everyone to be happy.
Everyone's getting paid.
Investors are getting paid from day one,
the entrepreneurs are getting paid from day one,
and that's whether or not they even start the business.
Seth, jump in on that.
Oh yeah, I mean, what we're realizing
with this entirely new system and economy that's emerging
is that what's the dream of an investor
is to make their money back and multiply it
as fast as you possibly can.
And we're starting to find systems and structures
that are now accessible to regular people
that has this emerging trend that is working.
So even for institutional capital raises,
say you wanted to start an insurance company or start a-
Which we are gonna be doing, boom.
Say you wanted to do that,
you would, instead of just raising money
and then waiting for five to 10 to 12 years,
the average startup takes 12 years to IPO,
which means go public, which is a massive financial exit.
But what if you could help make
your investors' money immediately
and then live off the returns and go for that?
So it's a super exciting place to be
and the startup culture will be probably forever changed
by a revolutionary like this.
Okay, now I wanna just go straight in on something here.
I've seen Anthony,
the link, he's gonna jump right in here with us.
But what if you could completely flip the script
on missions, right?
Because I think our missions, like our-
I think this is about churches too.
This is missions and churches.
Come on, churches, wow.
Come on, churches, come on, missions,
come on, Christians, come on.
Come on, family.
Let's flip the script on this, all right?
Because, right, you've got a missions project, right?
Everyone's like, okay, cool.
We're gonna put money into this missions project.
It's gonna be great.
You raise some funds, you chuck that.
Well, I'm like, hey, let's totally flip the script
on how we do missions.
Why don't you raise $2 million US
before you even start your missions project, right?
People are like, $2 million, yeah, come on.
There's so much money out there
that if you really want it, you can find it.
But what people wanna do before they put money into things
is see that you've actually got a good structure
to put it into.
Because people who've got $2 million
don't wanna give it to people
who are just gonna spend it, right?
Because to them, they understand the velocity of money
and they often think that most Christians are really dumb.
Most missionaries are really dumb with their money.
And so they don't wanna just give them $2 million
just to spend it.
Because they're like, man, that money's dead and gone now.
You just spent it.
Why would you do that?
What if you raised...
Anthony's jumping in here.
We'll just welcome him in.
Yeah, so what if you flip the script completely
and what if you raised $2 million
for your missions project?
Anthony, good to see you, my man.
I'm just in full flight,
but fantastic to have you with us.
And we're about to have an absolute blast
with Anthony in our next session.
So what if you raised $2 million,
you put it into a crypto bank
and you're generating 5% a month off it,
which means you've got $100,000 monthly budget now
and you haven't even spent the capital.
And you're generating 5%.
So what do you do is you take the risk out of it
and instead of spending all the money
that people gave you for your missions project
and it's gone and now you're poor and you're broke again,
you actually just set yourself up
for a long-term residual income stream.
So that's a couple of thoughts.
there for you guys on the velocity of money. And we're
going to transition now to chatting with Anthony. But we
will be talking more about how you can get into the crypto
bank, a lot going forward, how you can join the Raising Wealthy
Inner Circle. And Seb and I are going to have a really exciting
close for our last session today, 7pm New Zealand time, 10pm
Pacific time. So that last session, you definitely don't
want to miss out on because we're going to open up a whole
new world for you guys of high ticket sales, and of getting to
the space of crypto banking, and a whole lot of other good things
that we'll unpack then. But
good chicken, eh?
Marieke, what are your thoughts?
Some closing thoughts on on what's been unfolding for you
there?
No, I'm just so excited and so honored. And Benji, this is
really an opportunity of a lifetime. And sometimes I'm
really skeptical of things and really just trying to make make
sure you do the right choices. I mean, sometimes with going
through failures, you try to learn from it and you try to
better yourself. So sometimes I don't know if it's always good.
But sometimes you're a little bit more skeptical. And then you
try to make sure that you're doing the right thing and that
you're following the right path. And you look out for warning
signs and you make sure that you're not stepping into the
same previous mistakes. And what I can say about this crypto
bots is I am fully, fully, how can I say, trusted in the
system, and just believe that this is going to truly change
lives forever. So I'm really excited about this journey.
One thing just to add there is the person who mentored you into
this, they're trading constantly between 8 and 10
million US dollars, always on bots.
Yes.
Yeah.
So it's been a trusted system. And it's been tested and trialed
sort of for many years now. And seeing the results myself going
through it myself seeing the profits myself. And even like I
said, if we're going on a bearish movement with the with
the cryptocurrencies, you're still producing profit. I've
never seen anything like this, where you can produce profits
on a daily basis and still generate a return on your
investment, even though the cryptocurrencies is in a
downtrend. So this is really amazing. This is really
something that I trust and believe in is going to change
everyone's lives.
Fantastic. Well, thank you so much, Marieke. It's been
wonderful to be with you. We're really excited about the
opportunities to come in this space. And you have a wonderful
day. And no doubt you'll be tracking with a bunch of what
what we're unpacking for the rest of the day, too. So love
you. And we'll see you soon. And everyone, you'll see Marieke
around a whole bunch. And we look forward to taking people
deeper in that and people asking here, what's the minimum for
our crypto bank. So if you're in the raising royalty in a
circle, then we let people put in from 300 US dollars is the
minimum that people can put in for joining the crypto bank. But
we help people buy crypto all of that. So we make it real easy
for people in that process. So you don't have to have
experience with cryptocurrencies or anything like that. We've
got a whole team that will come around you and fast track you
and make it real simple.
Awesome. All right. Well, bless you, Marieke. Thank you so much.
And we'll catch you soon.
Thank you. Bye.
Anthony, my man, how are you doing?
Hey, good guys.
Yeah, hey, you probably don't know, but sort of way back in
the way back after I've been treasurer of this public
company for a bit. Another guy and I we set up a 24 hour
foreign exchange dealing operation. And doing what in
those days was I wouldn't say the equivalent of bots and the
crypto space. But back in those days, you could trade spot
deferred margin FX, they had a leverage of about 50 to one
and of course, you can trade both sides, any currency pair
you like. But even in foreign exchange days, in those days,
you had to cross the spread, right? You get what I mean, when
you buy and sell, you've got to cross the spread. In those
days, you might do it for $5, you might do it for $10, you
might do it for five or six pips each time, a little bit of
brokerage fee and that tended to carve out your margins, even
though the spreads are so narrow, but in the crypto space,
the spreads are just almost infinitesimal. Yeah. And the
transaction costs are so low that it really is facilitating
um you know because transactionally you can do what you what you're doing yeah no it's very very
yeah very very exciting yeah um hey well ladies and gentlemen if you don't know anthony uh you're
about to love this guy and um he has got a huge wealth of knowledge um and decades and decades
of experience chairing treasuring running companies uh massive in this space and you're
going to really love love what he carries um here's i've got i've kind of planned this out
of my head and i haven't fully told you guys exactly what i'm planning for this
session okay so this is a little bit of like a surprise for you both but here's
what i want to talk about in this session is i want to talk about the future of the world
yes put on yeah um i want to talk about the future of economics but i want to bring like
two elements in here that i think are really dynamic elements one i want to talk about you
know like how much impact is the this whole space of blockchain technology going to bring into you
know like decentralized finance how much impact is that going to have so i'm going to talk about
that sense of you know how is this shaking things up in the world whether the trends happening but
then the other element that i want to talk about is the supernatural dynamic of god's provision
breaking into the world right now we heard such phenomenal testimonies from jason cobb if you
missed the session on jason cobb with jason cobb you have to hear that because he is uh while he's
a missionary on the front lines looking after kids and babies and people and you know total
desperate situations you think oh maybe he's not really big on economics if you missed it he was
he is pioneering some of the most radical spaces of economics that i believe we're about to see in
the future especially supernatural provision there was four testimonies i believe that i just
were rocked me one is gemstones you know they've had thousands and thousands of gemstones supernaturally
appearing and actually when jason comes to conferences in new zealand people will follow
him around because like basically every single event that jason goes to if he's there he doesn't
even have to be speaking if he's in the room gemstones just start appearing all the time you
ask you can ask people all over new zealand and i mean anywhere around the world that he goes
people will actually once they realize he's there and they once they realize it starts happening
they start looking on the floor all around him because these gemstones start supernaturally
appearing everywhere and some people have had them valued and they're worth thousands of dollars
and then they're just supernaturally appearing out of heaven so there's this realm of provision and
actually that you know when paul said i was taken to the third heaven if you actually look at the
hebrew characters for that you know that the it actually in hebrew the hebrew characters it's not
the third heaven it's the realm of supply so paul actually what he wrote is i was taken to the realm
of supply and i think this new mindset is going to settle in where we understand that heaven is not
just a nice idea heaven is our actual physical realm of supply so i had that that supernatural
food appearing that didn't you know like they had their food just multiply for months and months and
months their food never ran out you just feed their whole children's home oil multiplying bread
multiplying everything they needed just multiplied the and the third one is one of the ladies in
their team she doesn't have a bank account but everywhere she goes whenever she needs to buy
something she puts her hand in her pockets and the money is there doesn't matter what nation she's
in doesn't matter what amount she needs and it's not you're not just talking once twice thousands
of times basically every day if she needs to go and like buy some fruit for the kids she just walks
out there puts her hand in her pocket pulls the money out every time thousands of times doesn't
matter what country she's in she pulls out the right currency out of her pocket the realm of
supply and then the fourth one is god's promise to these kids that they're going to start bringing
back supernatural seeds um they're actually bringing back things now they've brought back
gems from heaven they've also brought back power shell and god's promised them that these kids are
also going to start bringing back seeds so they can actually start planting and growing seeds
from heaven so i just want to um say stuff you monsanto
you know like heaven is the realm of supply and heaven has another agenda so
i just wanted to um bring that into
this whole dynamic of the future of the world, where's the
blockchain going? Where's heaven going? What is the future of
economics going to look like? So with that, Anthony, how about
you pray for us? And then let's wind up the prayer session.
Oh, Lord, we just love to gather and talk about the kingdom and
that your kingdom come, that may entail. We love to hear
testimonies of supernatural provision and things beyond our
current experience. And we ask Lord that you that you form
every word that is spoken and this weekend and the session and
that we we see your wisdom flow.
Amen. See, why don't you light it up?
With more prayer? Should we go there?
With whatever you like, man. With whatever you like.
Yeah.
Whatever you're violent on.
Okay. Okay. I love it. Well, why don't we just jump straight
in? Because like, there's so much to unpack here around the
emerging economy. What God is really doing, you know, we've
been talking this whole weekend about this alternate economy
that's emerging, this decentralized economy that's
emerging, but even in decentralized economy, there's
but even in decentralized economies, things are shifting,
things are moving around, things are, you know, taking place
where, you know, you know, all the way from like, things like
SPACs, and you know, when companies are going public in
different ways, then they've never been going public before.
It's things moving around in different ways, because of
government control and regulation, all the things that
you want to talk about, they're all there, it's all happening.
But, um, but Anthony, like, what, what are you kind of
seeing is, is firstly, like the most problematic in the global
economy, the future that it's projecting, and then and then I
want to switch over to like, where are we going? What are the
solutions that we have that are that we have access to, to help
solve some of these problems?
Yeah, okay. Well, here, we're that we're the world economic
system is, well, look, the world financial system or the world
economic system, remember, is a tool. So in the kind of worldly
sense, is a tool for the world's expectations to create wealth
and all the things that it does. And, you know, for us, like,
from a kingdom perspective, it's a tool, and how long do we use
the tool? Or is the tool going to explode into a million
pieces? You know, we've all heard this phrase about, yeah,
the gospel is preached on Roman roads. But but only for so long
as there weren't IEDs in every corner. Yeah, you know. So what
is what what is happening in this in this world? For me, I
track back a good 100 years or so to the beginning of sovereign
debt. And, you know, the Keynesian economic model came
along and said that countries should borrow in times of need
and pay it back when they get the surplus. And we'd have these
little oscillations and things that will be hunky dory. So
sovereign debt came into existence. Not too long after
that, corporate debt arrived. Then we had a few sovereign debt
crises, South America, then we had household debt was created.
You know, for those of us that are old enough, which may not
include you guys, I don't know, maybe maybe it's just me.
Household debt really only came into existence around 1980.
Until then, you know, if you wanted a new sofa, you saved up
and bought it. So, so we've got these three debt pillars all of
a sudden, sovereign, corporate and household. And it's become
engorged to the point that it is untenable. And, you know, you
hear the sort of chitter chatter about all the world's this and
that and the debt crisis and there's so much debt and it can
never be repaid. And you talk about United States federal debt
at levels that are so astronomically large, you think,
well, how can they never be repaid? Well, I guess the logical
thing is it probably won't be. And along with the advent of
debt, what's wrong alongside it is this, you know, capitalist
you know, capitalist system, which breeds people into a
pretty much an individualistic style of living, because it's
about my little capitalist silo, and how can I accumulate wealth
in my capitalist silo. And then and then we have an education
system that sort of breeds creativity out of people and
tells people what's right and wrong. So you can see these
things will come along, tilted the world, you know,
like if that's the that it's tilted the world off here somewhere you know what I mean you know it's
away from the kind of the essential spirit of people so we we all get that um but but look
there's a lot of forces at play at the moment where just as much as we can understand that
those in control of the global financial system understand that and so they're plotting a strategy
to to fix it um but for them to fix it they can't let it come into unbridled chaos
because history shows that's not that flash so they've hatched a scheme and and we see
we see snippets of this in the world economic forum media and um uh you know characterization
things like the great reset and there are precursors to this to to get people in shape
to accept it when it comes so this pandemic is a nice little segue distraction to say well let's
get people acclimatized to being controlled because we need that when we kind of bring
bring the global economic system which is now in an untenable shape when we bring that into
its new form and some orderly fashion rather than a disorderly fashion so I think that's um
you know what we can't predict is the exact time frame or the exact steps but I think we can see
that a number one it's untenable number two there's a strategy to deal with it amongst a a group
whoever it is and we can see certain facets for example independent government is going to be
inconsistent with a collective way of reorganizing the global financial system so in other words
independent government action has to be taken out you know so you can see all these things
happening now all these building blocks being put in place um you know when when it comes back
to sort of what do we do about it from a um you know how long do we walk along this roman road
and as opposed to when do we hop off this roman road um I think that that brings us to two
questions that the first is um like our own hard attitude we've got to be really careful we're not
so wedded to it if it crashes we get dragged down with the ship um and then the other the
other thing is the very practical thing as to so how do what do we do you know um you know Jesus
said in Luke um in that parable of the miners occupy till I come you know occupy the concept
of stewardship which is a little bit on the kind of protective side but it's far more in that take
dominion take ground expand multiply the word you use benji velocity you know that's what it's
speaking to um and you know we all know the reward is to the person who is faithful and
faithful in that stewardship and that's repeated in one corinthians so we we we get we get that
and benji you speak so so strongly of the discipline nations so the question is okay
in discipling nations we see the system as as falling down um you know for for us uh we we
do need some kind of system because we need to store things we need to transact we need to do
things yeah um so what is that system going to look like do do we um or how deeply do we get
into let's say blockchain as a paradigm and as a method and as a technology that allows us to
you know stand here safely and the whole crumbling building of the the existing economic system goes
down here and we don't get hit on the way yeah um it is a really uh
uh it's a dynamic space such a dynamic space if you if you look at i mean i think just in case
anyone doesn't know what what is centralized finance what is decentralized finance like i
just thought i thought it'd be cool to clarify that and then just step into this next space
uh well i well my interpretation of centralized finance is let's say a fiat currency of a nation
where you are compelled to transact and do business in that currency and you are therefore
connected to it and bound by its conventions where you can use it where you can't and the
methodology of transacting in that currency be it your online banking or let's say in a
blockchain space whereas a decentralized currency is something that's not subject to sovereign
control and could be um you and one other person or it could be a community of people however you
define community yeah cool what do you what do you think now i think this all kind of came together
but what do you think at the moment about
China's social credit system, their centralized economy,
what they've created there, like, what's your take on that?
Well, I think China's had a good look at how developments
in the, what we would all call the cryptocurrency space
have gone along.
And I think it was late September last year,
they just said to all the Chinese citizens,
you can't do it anymore.
So they disabled Chinese citizen independent trading
and cryptocurrencies.
With a view to having their own,
you know, I guess we all read the same sort of material
that once you end up with a digital kind of identity
on one of these things,
and you're compelled to transact in the state's currency,
which let's face it, we kind of are now,
it's just happened to be called a dollar
as opposed to a digital thing.
Yeah.
The difference is you can have other things added
or subtracted from your digital balance.
Because the technology enables that more systemically
than it does now, where for the state to go
and take a hundred bucks out of your bank account
because you missed the social credit score opportunity
or something rather.
Totally, I mean, they can do all sorts of things.
It was you, not me in Wellington,
something or other like that.
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, they can do so much in, like in China right now,
they're going, okay, right, well, you didn't behave
the way that we wanted you to behave.
So you've got no money now and you've got no job.
Yeah, and you can't travel.
The thing with a-
And you can't travel.
So it's ultimate control that they've really
actually got over people now.
Like they can control whether or not they can buy food.
Yeah.
Look, the difference between our existing banking system
and what you're describing in China is that in China,
the state becomes the bank of, for everyone.
In our Western countries, we have a bank down the road
that allegedly is independent from the state.
Well, it has some degree of independence from the state
that we get sort of somewhat comforted by,
but that comfort-
Somewhat comforted by.
Somewhat, yeah.
Yeah, depending on where that bank's value system
and loyalty lies, isn't it?
Because we're seeing that this week in Canada
with Trudeau, that the banks are fully aligned.
Now, there's no pushback from the banks at all.
The banks are like,
yeah, sure, we'll freeze people's accounts.
Yeah, sounds great.
Well, look, the work for this sort of action
has been laid a long time ago
with even the anti-money laundering legislation,
which is now a global standard,
introduces methods of reporting
and monitoring of bank account activity
that we would have thought unfathomable a little while ago.
And when we think about transacting
in the cryptocurrency space,
you've got to get into that space, right?
So you've got an off-ramp and an on-ramp,
what we call an off-ramp or an on-ramp into it.
So you go out of a fiat currency into,
you put New Zealand dollars or US dollars,
whatever it is,
into your cryptocurrency broker's bank account
to acquire the cryptocurrency.
So that's an on-ramp.
So we already know in New Zealand
that ANZ Bank will not permit transactions
into cryptocurrency broker bank accounts.
So there's not that many banks in New Zealand.
So I know we're sort of probably jumping around a bit,
but certainly, I mean,
I think one of the strategic questions
to get into cryptocurrency in New Zealand, at least,
is timing because there aren't that many banks here
and you've got to get your money out of New Zealand dollars.
Yeah.
And it's even more difficult coming the other way.
Out of crypto, if you're going to buy something.
Changing it from crypto to NZ dollars.
And this is interesting.
I mean, this is really cool,
what we saw with Sean and Greg on their session
around TPR and the People's Reserve.
Now, they're not a classic cryptocurrency in a sense
because they've built their own entire native blockchain.
Now, they had 12 developers working full-time
for over a year to build their own,
like their entire ecology and infrastructure.
They've built it all from scratch themselves.
So they're not running on the Bitcoin network
or the Ethereum network.
They've got their own entire network
and they're creating another economy.
And so the TPR one, if you missed that session,
it's a stable coin specifically designed
for trading for this exact purpose as well.
That's the whole reason they built it,
the People's Reserve.
It's built to.
create a currency that people can trade. And Greg, for example,
in his local community, they've got, you know, a bunch of people
starting to jump on this a number of the businesses, you
can go out and buy your food with this, you can get services
done with this TPR coin. So I think it's interesting seeing
these new developments, because this TPR, you know, they just
take their phone in, I've got TPR on mine, I could go over
there as well and do it, but they just take their phone in,
you know, like take a photo of the, what's that thing called,
Seb? QR code, you mean? That's it. Just hit the QR code, they
automatically transact from their phone to the other
person's wallet. And, and what do you know, they've, they've
created their own system of transacting, because you're
right, you know, it's so essential. I mean, money makes
things easy, right? Like, it's nice to be able to just go down
buy, leave, you know, you don't have to try and take a chicken
and say, I want to swap you half a chicken for one of those.
Yeah, it's cool. You know, we've come so far, you know, if you
even if you think about like 200 years ago, you know, money was
just like paper slips of a record of what you actually
have actually held inside a bank, you know, like it was a
very real, you know, even here in the US, the Federal Reserve
wasn't created until, you know, the beginning of the 1900s.
And yet here we are with this, you know, corrupted
decentralized bank, banking system, that's causing, you
know, catastrophic problems for the for the regular person
that's really just being rooted in social control, through
financial control. And I mean, Anthony, do you see a future
where
decentralization and finance, like, is the predominant move
of way of transacting money? Do you see a move where that's
possible? Or are we, are we under the radar for as much as
possible? Like, I guess what I'm asking is like, say it all
takes critical mass, right? It takes off, everybody's using it,
like, there will eventually be some kind of, you know,
regulations that will, that will happen. But how, you know,
what's the future that you see in that space at a, and right
now, I'm specifically speaking to Western countries, you know,
what is the future there look like?
I think the under the radar description is most suitable.
For the for the group that's, let's say, relatively in
control of the situation. And you mentioned the Federal
Reserve, well, you know, the Federal Reserve is a privately
owned bank. And the most important bank of the world,
which nobody, few people have probably heard of called
something little thing called the Bank of International
Settlements, is similarly privately owned. Yeah. So, so
let's assume that they sit there having their meetings and, and,
and, and ponder about conversations like we're having
now. And, and there'd be an element of you let it go,
because it doesn't matter, it's not big enough, it's not
endemic enough, it's not a threat to you. Because it's not
facilitating independence of financial transactions and wealth
transfers and accumulation. But when it gets significant
enough, it is an issue to you, just like any new entrant to a
market. So my, you know, I do see that these developments are
going to be quiet. And need need to be, I think, carefully
constructed to be completely separated. See, blockchain runs
on the internet. And in China tells us it's really easy to
disable access to the internet. Yes, you can transact between
phones using Bluetooth, but you need to reconcile to a ledger in
the blockchain at some point. So you technically you can do this
on an intranet. So, yeah, I think you raised a very good
question about how long.
That's something there. On that note, but things that people
don't realize of what God's doing behind the scenes is Nancy
Cohen, spiritual mom, she is working with basically, like a
group of kingdom elites. You know, God's had her for, you
know, over 40 years, moving all around the world leading
billionaires to Jesus. One week when I saw her, you know, meet
up in Jakarta, one time in the week before I met her, she'd
lead 13 billionaires to Jesus. And it's not
difficult in Jakarta to billionaire hop, you know, like, I've done that with her in an afternoon,
or like, just, you're hanging out. And it's like, Oh, yeah, this lady's a billionaire,
this lady built an entire city. This lady's a billionaire. It's like, whoa, flip, you know, like,
they just, there's a bunch there. And there's a lot of really, really wealthy Christians,
billionaires, all around, all around the world, and a ton in Asia. Anyway, they've been working
on lots of projects, God's got covert projects in technology, in the spirit, and all sorts of
things happening. And this is this is something that's really, really massive of what God's doing.
And they're actually building their own internet. Yeah, you know, that actually,
they've already, they've already onboarded hundreds of businesses onto this privately
owned, kingdom run internet that no government has any control of.
So, yeah. So what I'm saying there is, when we look at the future,
there's a massive God factor here. And I want to come to that in a minute. But
what would you say, just in terms of, you know, in regards to, you know, our current banking systems,
what would be the biggest red flags and the most urgent kind of things you, you see as
us needing to really take stock of and really consider?
I think that my biggest question is the threat of what's called a bail in.
So, so when a, when a bank hits a problem, what's happened in the past on the recent past last 30,
40 years, there's typically a government has bailed out. So the government being the rest
of the community, right. So basically, the rest of the community is pitched in
taxpayer money to say, we'll stop you from failing.
If there's like, you're so valuable to society that we can't, we can't,
we can't stop you from existing laws, basically, right?
Yeah, that that's right. So, so after the GFC, New Zealand got a, you know, like a light touch
of the flu from the GFC compared to other countries that got a real whack. But we still
had some failures here. And some were bailed out by the government and some weren't in the previous
sort of economic trough in 1989 and 1990, as the stock market downturned. A government-owned
finance company, New Zealand was let go and the government just said tough luck
to everybody who lost money. So, you know, we, we shouldn't be seduced into thinking the government
will bail out. Now, a bail in is where the bank says to everybody who's got money on deposit
in the bank, sorry, you've just had to have a shave. And you've got whatever we determine you've
got left of your deposit. So in times of bank peril, that's the biggest threat. And whether
that is a rewriting that occurs when a sovereign state moves from its fiat currency, you know,
like New Zealand dollar or Australian dollar into the state's digital currency, or whether
it happens because of a marketplace event, because there's a some calamitous event in the global
financial markets, I'm not sure. But I think depositors, people with money in the bank need
to look real carefully at how safe that is. I mean, legally, what's your thoughts on this, but
legally, when you put your money in the bank, it's no longer your money.
Well, the bank has control over it. We've seen that in New Zealand,
and lots of other countries as well that it used to be you put your money on deposit for a year or
something, if you wanted it out, you just lost a bit of interest. Now you've got to sort of almost
prostrate yourself in front of the bank and plead reasons. And if they deem it significant,
sufficiently serious, they'll let you have your money back. And that's really unusual.
Wow.
So, you know, the motivation is to have your money on call. But even when you take money
out of a deposit, you still get the phone call about what's the money going to be used for,
you know, the degree of inquiry, you know, coming back to cryptocurrency, even the banks that permit
money to go on the on ramp into the crypto space, if it's anything meaningful, which generally means,
you know, 10,000 or more, you get the phone call and, you know, quite a grueling.
When, you know, we're tempted to think, well, hang on, it's our money,
we'll do with it what we want. But the bank saying it ain't.
Yeah, yeah, it's interesting. We, you
you know, here in the US with Publix where we were with a, one
of the biggest banks in the world, you know, originally had
our all of our money, you know, millions of dollars in this
account. And then we realized, for example, that this
particular bank was matching employee contributions to Planned
Parenthood. So literally funding abortions all across America.
And, which is not something that others don't, other big banks
don't do a lot of them do the same thing. But we we decided to
go and find a pro freedom bank, you know, even in this
conversation of banks, there's corruption inside the banks,
you know, and and people can often feel a little bit like,
man, there's no option for me because I you know, I don't have
$10,000 to go on this journey or anyway, so we we decided that
we found a bank here in California, Southern California,
great people. Yeah, pro freedom, love, love the love
America love the Constitution really want to prioritize
freedom in this in this country. And so we started transferring
wire transfers out of this big bank into to this other new
bank. And I get a phone call. So this this is us transferring
hundreds of 1000s of dollars. And I get a phone call from the
banker saying because my name's one of the biggest names on the
account saying, asking me like our political affiliations
asking me our what's going on internally, like, are you a
political action committee? Are you giving money to all these
different things? And this this we got totally grilled for for
our political views based on like the, the fact that we were
choosing to leave this massive corporate bank and go to one
that aligned with our values, even like even that is going on.
So we know behind the scenes now because we asked like, there's a
big checkmark and a big red cross on our bank account for
and on our financial transactions because of our
values, you know, and if that's just a small example of what's
possible, you know, it's very concerning.
In that process, they froze your personal account, didn't they?
Yes, I couldn't access my personal account for for a
little while. And so I had to access it through through Claire.
But um, yeah, that happened too. So yeah, yeah, yeah, it's a fun
world out there.
Yeah. But look, you know, we all know God's not surprised by any
of this. And what you're sort of segueing us into, I think Benji
before that, that Nancy Cohen is touching into, for me shines a
light on a real question that we face, which is, you know,
borrowing your language, Benji, about discipling nations, is, on
the one hand, it's that like, build it, they will come thing
is, is, you know, it's beholden on us to do these things to
create these things to create the opportunity for people to
like transact and bank and build wealth, independently from the
global financial system. But then on the other hand, there's an
element of, you know, when it gets this tipping point where
there's this absolute sort of crumbling of the existing world
financial system. To what extent are we able to predict
that and position for it? And what extent do we say, God, we
know you've got this, when that day comes, we're ready. You
know, that that balance and it's like, it's a, it's almost like
it's the, the daily question, isn't it of the Holy Spirit?
Hey, what do you want us to do today in this area? Yeah, what
extent is there the build, build, they will come prepared
to what extent is white?
Yeah, cool. That's got me thinking about, it's got me
thinking about three things right now. I'll bring you into
like, the ethos of this group of people that Nancy's working
with, because they've got a whole movement of real big
hitters all around the world who are focusing on something, their
ethos is basically like what you're talking about in terms of
it's untenable, the debt crisis is like, this whole system is
going to crash and burn. The political way of doing things of
tyranny is actually eventually going to crash and burn. And
their perspective is, this is actually like, all these
systems actually going to crash and burn. And out of the ashes,
God is calling a people to build a whole new world. I build and
He's actually, God looks at us with pretty, when He looks at
us, the capacity that He views in us is pretty big. And I think
capacity that God sees in us is so much greater than we've allowed ourselves to recognize in
ourselves. God is backing us. God is backing us 100% to Disciple Nations. He's backing us to
rebuild a whole new world that mirrors heaven, which is so exciting. So I think that this is
one of the exciting things is that God's really calling us into a space where He is backing us
100% to build a whole new world. Like all the systems and to actually take responsibility
of it and to actually govern over. Okay, hey, let's rule and reign over financial systems.
Let's rule and reign over political systems. And so I think there's this massive excitement
around the fact that God's backing us to Disciple Nations and what that looks like
of taking responsibility over the entire top to bottom infrastructure required to build cities,
to build nations and to do it way better than what the world has ever seen. So I think that's
really exciting. I think what you're touching on there is really dynamic. There's the sense of
urgency right now and making sure that we position ourselves right now to capitalize
on the massive amount of opportunities that are right here right now. I mean, we've moved most
of our money out of the banking system into the crypto world and we've banked it. I've put
into a crypto bank and it's kicking the bank's butt from day one. So and like
putting a house deposit, having a house deposit in the bank, all I did was lose value over a year
due to inflation. I put into our crypto bank and within a week, I'm like, flip, we could just
about retire off the return. You know, like, this is crazy. So there's this element of urgency and
timing, like, OK, right, where do we like, where do we position ourselves right now? That's a big
question. And then where we're going, I think this is another thing that's so epic because
there's urgency to make sure we figure out our finances right now. But there's also real urgency
to to really figure out things in the supernatural realm. There's real urgency for us to grow in
finances and wisdom and finances. There's also real urgency for us to grow in spiritual wisdom
to understand, OK, hey, there's a there's a if we understand the realm of supply,
if we understand the greater works that Jesus walked in and he's called us into the greater
works, then we will be in a place that our state of being will be a 100 percent conviction of
invincibility. And this is this is such a crazy space. You know, Jesus said we would do greater
things than him. Now, let's look at one miracle, right? Here's my water. Jesus turned water into
wine. He turned water into wine. And if you actually look at that miracle at the core of it,
of what it what it was, is he simply shifted the frequency of water to the frequency of wine.
Now, every every substance in the earth has a frequency that actually that frequency defines
the the the frequency defines the form of what that thing is. So Jesus, Jesus simply shifts
the frequency of water to the frequency of wine, and then the form shifts from water to wine.
What if what if we had spiritual wisdom that enabled us to walk in what Jesus promised in
John 14 and 12, which is you would anyone who has faith will do what I've been doing. They will do
even greater things than these. What if part of the greater works includes us understanding and
having the spiritual wisdom of understanding how to shift frequency of matter? And all of a sudden,
we pick up a rock and turn it to gold. Well, you know, like, we, we pick up a rock and it turns to
bread and we eat it. I mean, if you're going to make a miracle like that, make it something better
than bread, probably like pick it up and it turns to bread. It's pretty good. Yeah. I can be good
fresh from heaven's bakery. Yeah. So I think there's this element here, we are in the world
that we're going in. I think some, some aspects of where God will take us is he's going to take us
into the storm where the only option for us is going to be spiritual wisdom. I think there's
other elements where the storm is going to look different and he's expecting us to really master
these mindsets that disciple nations are saying, hey, no, create your own economies,
uh, utilize the power of leverage, utilize the velocity.
money. Utilize the power of community. Create your own infrastructures. Create your own economies.
Unsubscribe from a corrupt system. Make that Revelation 13 an anti-climax. You know when
people say they don't take the chip, they don't get to participate in the economy,
they can't buy or sell. I'm like, I want to start a campaign, you know, like make Revelation 13
an anti-climax. Because by the time that comes, we've already unsubscribed, we've already created
our own new economies, we've already developed spiritual wisdom that enables us to shift the
frequency and form, you know, we can shift matter, you know, like if you can shift matter,
you will never, you'll be out of control. Which is, I think, where God wants to take us as a
place of out of control. From the systems that want to control us based on values. He's like,
no, I want you out of control. I want you untouchable. I want you living from this
place of invincibility. I want you to be able to shift matter. I want you to be able to,
you know, like be limitless. Yeah, that's kind of my take of where I think God's doing. He's
bringing storms on us, but there to make us not to break us. But in the midst of the storms coming,
we've got to be like the sons of Issachar who could determine the timings and they knew when
to take what move and where to position themselves in that urgency. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's like it's
a mixed bag, isn't it, Benji? You know, there's some called in this particular place and some
in this particular place and it's a whole range. Yeah. And on that, though, I think that here's,
I think here's the thing is that I think we've, we've thought, okay, one guy is going to be the
financial guy. One guy is going to be the pastoral, prophetic, spiritual guy. And one person is going
to be the, you know, there's going to be someone else who's like the health guru. I actually think
that the space that God is taking us into now is a space where he's like, you know what?
You can master it all. If you're diligent, you can master like Jesus mastered everything.
Jesus was apostle, prophet, pastor, you know, evangelist, teacher. And I think sometimes people
have a real small minded concept that, oh, okay, maybe I will one day hope to be a teacher or a
pastor. But the whole purpose of Ephesians four and the fivefold gifting is the apostles there
to make everyone apostolic. The past is there to make everyone pastoral, you know, empower them.
The prophets there to empower everyone for the prophetic, you know, the evangelist is there to
empower everyone to be evangelistic. Who have we left out? The teachers there to empower everyone
to teach. It's the same right now. God's wanting us to come to such high levels of intelligence
where we can master all things, where you can be a master of spiritual wisdom and financial wisdom
and health wisdom. He wants us walking at the highest level in all of these areas. And I think
he's just going to like, he's just inviting us now to say, hey, you don't have to be limited
anymore. You can be limitless. You can be a full fledged manifestation. That's what, you know,
sons are. They walk in the fullness of the fivefold. That's the whole purpose of the
fivefold to equip everyone for sonship. And actually, if you look at Ephesians four, it
goes on to say that the fivefold's purpose is actually to bring us all to the fullness
of the measure of the stature of the perfection of Christ Jesus. You know, that's the whole
purpose of the fivefold to bring all of us. It's what it is, is it's the unveiling of the sons of
God. And the unveiling of the sons of God is like, man, we are boss level in every area of life.
Just pretty exciting. Yeah. Yeah.
I know we've got too much time left of it, so I'll take this moment. I wanted to toss another
idea in here. And it's going to sound a bit droll. I've just been saying BNG, I think. But,
you know, within that sort of domain of preaching the gospel on Roman roads and
like, how long can we travel on some parts of this old runway?
It's irked me for a while that in the typical fellowship, there's all these people that sit
there that have got debt, and there's all these people that sit there, they've got money in the
bank. Yeah. And I've often thought it'd be nice to walk into one of those fellowships and say,
everybody stand up and go over to the left hand side on right on a scrap of paper,
how much you have in the bank and the others right on a scrap of paper, how much you owe,
we'll tell you them up and they'll probably be the same. In which case, why don't we just bank
internally? You know, and then if you have a bail in, there's no risk. Yeah. And if you have
a asset price schism, you have no debt risk. Yeah, yeah, that's crazy. Crazy.
Because, because that's the reality, right? Like, you know,
they, we have, in our own communities, the eternal, not
eternal, the, the, what's the word I'm looking for? The
capacity, yeah, capacity to internally do this, you know,
and most average churches would have exactly that. Which is,
it's just wild. I know, we're trying to bring it in for for a
landing.
It's X4 as well. You know, like, that's what the fellowship of
believers. Here's one quick thing as well, that makes me
laugh about this is people think, oh, they were selling
their property. So they were getting poorer and poorer. But
they're like, you don't know who you're looking at. These guys
were Jews, you know, like they were selling spare properties,
because they had a lot of cash. It's not like because people
like, oh, they're selling their property. So they were running
out of resources. It's like, are you mental? These guys were
investing all the time. They understood wealth, they had
spare properties, they could sell just for a giggle.
Jump in there.
Amazing. Yeah, I love it. Very cool. Well, I know we're trying
to land a plane, but um, quick spitfire, you know, what are the
most urgent action tips that people should be taking right
now with their finances in the context of all, all that's going
on in the world?
Just get your interactions with the banking system down to the
lowest practical minimum level. So yeah, less cash in the bank
and no debt.
Yeah. Get out of debt and get away from the golden handcuffs
of the bank.
I'll say one thing about getting out of debt is if you have $100,000
capital and $100,000 debt, I would personally leverage my
$100,000 capital to generate to activate the velocity of money to
be paying down the debt as quickly as I could without
losing my capital. I mean, so that's kind of a thought, you
know, like,
yeah, yeah, no, I get where you're coming from there Benji
and that I guess that's a very individual decision. And it
depends on the debt and if it's the debt over your family home,
or if it's a debt over some asset that's a bit separate or
not so precious. And there's a lot of, I found in this sort of
thing about debt and da, da, da, da, that it's so individual.
I get what you're saying. Yeah, it's a cool niche.
Yeah, yeah, we'll explore that more in the future. But Anthony,
what a delight having you with us. We're so grateful for you
being with us. And that was such a great, great conversation. Let
me know if you loved Anthony and that brilliant chat there.
Next up, and a lot of a lot of what we've got coming at you
today is on how you can generate wealth and create wealth. Okay,
so the next session is with an amazing couple, Anna and Asha
from Australia, and they're gonna be talking about how they
creating crazy wealth right now. So they, I mean, Asha will
unpack this for you. But you want to hear this, you don't
want to miss this. Because when they I mean, Asha had a job
where he made a ton of money. But once they got to the point
where they were making more money a month through residual
income from what Anna was doing as a side hustle than he made in
a year, they retired him to jump on board with what they're
doing. So you want to really hear what they're doing. We're
going to be live with them in just a minute. So Anthony, thank
you so much. What an honor, just want to pray for everyone. One
more time to wrap it up. And then we'll bring it to a close
and like these other guys up.
You go for it, Anthony.
Oh, sorry. Lord, thank you for being with us in our
conversation, our journey. And we always look to you for
guidance in these turbulent times. And we love hearing of
how you're working and others to build the fabric of your
kingdom on earth. And that we can be a thread or a part of a
thread woven into something that we we can't see the whole
picture. And we don't try and see the whole picture. We trust
you have got the whole picture. And we simply want to be
faithful in our thread and be woven where you place us. And
thank you for what Benji and Seb are bringing to your community
in this weekend, and the glory that it shines on you.
And it shines through these guys and we love you in Jesus name.
Amen.
Thank you, sir.
Bless you.
Love you guys.
Awesome.
See you soon.
Okay.
See you.
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