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Okay, ladies and gentlemen, I believe we are live, it's a, oh, look at this, we are, it's

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happening right now, session 20, and we're here with Marieke and Seth, oh, guys, how

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are you feeling? Marieke, how are you doing? Where are you in the world? I'm doing amazing.

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Thank you, Benji. This is a huge opportunity, and I'm so excited about this. I'm in beautiful

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sunny Florida, but I am originally from South Africa. Quite amazing story how God just super

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naturally opened up doors for us to move to the States, and it's been quite a journey.

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We've been three years in the States now, and the journey has been tough, but beautiful

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all in one, and all the honor and glory goes to God, and yeah, just beautiful, sunny Florida.

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So cool. Sam, how are you doing, bud? Yeah, I'm doing good. I'm doing good. Sun is shining.

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Last day of the conference. I haven't felt this, like, conference vibe for a long time,

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you know? It's like, it's a good vibe, you know, when you wake up on the third day,

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and you're like, oh yeah, I know this is going to be glorious, but I'm also feeling the burn,

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you know? It's just such that glorious conference feeling, so we're doing good. We're doing good.

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So good. Hey, hello to everyone, and I'm back in the zone as well. I've been able to stream,

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so coming to you through my page, and back to the online School of Sonship as well,

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and good to be streaming with you guys. So wherever you are in the world, say hello,

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and say hi, Marieke. You are going to love her. She's an absolute genius. We're so honored to

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have her with us, and she has been pioneering some absolutely exceptional tech and opportunities.

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Yeah, and oh, just so good morning. Good morning. Drop in the comments where in the world you are,

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what time it is, and how you're vibing on session 20. What an adventure.

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So man, I just feel like we are in such a beautiful space, and

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wow. So I'm excited to pray, and to let loose into this session. So Marieke, why don't you

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start for us, and we'll all have a little prayer, and get ready for what's going to be

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an absolutely reformational, revolutionary, and exciting session.

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Amen. Thank you, Jesus. We just want to come here, and we want to honor you for this glorious time

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that you have given us, Father. Father, I want to bring Benji and Seb to you today,

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and I just want to honor them for laying down their lives to disciple nations. In order to

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give us skill sets, tools, and automations to really bring the kingdom of heaven down to earth,

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Father. We just want to ask that each and every viewer, and each and every speaker's lives will

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be filled with your truth, with your justice, with your glory, and your honor. We worship and

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praise your holy name, Jesus, and we love you. Whoa, come on. Amen. Go for it, Seb.

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Oh, you're on the mute factor.

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It's awesome. There we go. Well, good morning, everyone. It's great to be with you. This

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space of what we're about to deep dive into is just as captured by attention in my mind,

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but I think if I'm being totally honest, I think it's also captured a part of my heart.

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I think there's a space where we've talked a lot about the systems of the world and the

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corruption and all the different things going on, but I think beautifully inside this conversation

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about cryptocurrency, there's a real heartbeat of redemption. There's been this centralized

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solution, and now there's a decentralized solution where power comes back to the people.

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And I just feel like this whole conversation has been birthed in the heart of God,

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and that there's so much opportunity in life.

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I find that because it's been birthed in the heart of God. And

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so, Mark, I love this, what we're about to deep dive into,

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but but give us a little bit of a background before we jump deep

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into it. What? Where, where are you in the world in terms of

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business? Like, you know, you've been you've done a lot of

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different things.

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I just want to interrupt there for a second, just because we've

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got heaps of people saying hi from all over the world. So

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South Africa, Pakistan, New Zealand, Colorado. Oh, Thomas

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skillet right from the bottom of the South and the cargo.

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Hello. Hello. So hello, everyone. Rebecca, Linda, Paul,

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Catherine, I'm not catching everyone. Even sorry, Danny,

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Aretha, all of you beautiful people. We love you. We want to

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honor everyone went on a hunger. You guys are just on fire. And

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so so cool tracking with you all. So we just want to say we

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love you. And then the people on the other streaming channels as

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well. We love you. So yeah, massive love to everyone. What a

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delight to be sharing this adventure together. So we just

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want to really say we love you guys. And just so so cool.

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Sharing an adventure together on this. So yeah, back to you.

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Yeah, love it. Very cool. Well, Mark, what what were the what

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led you to where you are now? You know what, what you've been

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on a bit of a journey with business with kingdom business

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and the whole story. Give us a little bit of insight and tell

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us you know, how did how did you get to here before we jump into

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what here exactly is? How did you get here?

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Sure, definitely. There has been a lot of fails a lot of try try

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sessions and a lot of failure to get here. But it's amazing.

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It's amazing to look back at your life and see God's hand and

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protection all over. So yes, three years ago, and my husband

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lost his business back in South Africa. And we tried to get a

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job for him. I've been in the car sales industry my whole adult

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career for more than 15 years selling cars. And I just

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couldn't see myself doing anything else. Sometimes you are

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so cooped up in your own little small world that you cannot see

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anything outside of the box. And sometimes God needs to take

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you outside of that box so that he can really start dreaming so

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that you can really start dreaming within and so that you

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can really start living the dreams of your life. So

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sometimes desperate needs call for desperate measures. So we

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lost everything and we couldn't find a job for for my husband

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back in South Africa. And for three months, we were searching

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all over couldn't find anything. Someone mentioned the

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states in agriculture, we should maybe look into that option. It

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just took a couple of weeks and God open up steps super

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naturally for us to move to the States like an illiteral couple

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of weeks. And in that timeframe, for the first time God start

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showing me dreams and visions. Because moving to the States

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meant we have to leave everything we know and trust and

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love behind family, friends, colleagues, business, work

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partners, everything that we have built our whole life. I

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mean, me and Ricky grew up and we were born and raised in the

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same little small town. We never moved anywhere else outside of

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that little small town. So for us to back up and leave and move

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continents away, that is quite drastic. So if it wasn't for the

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visions, the dreams that God gave us, I would surely not have

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done it. So in that process, God gave us dreams and visions. We

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arrived in the States with nothing besides one small little

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suitcase case each with personal belongings and clothes. We had

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to sell all of our last personal belongings to pay for the plane

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tickets. And we arrived here at the farmer's farm with just a

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shell of an house, which is an abandoned farmhouse. We had

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nothing. He only gave us one bed. And we had to live in that

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conditions. We had to start all over. We had to buy our own

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kitchenware, own couches, own washing and dryer, own

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everything. We had literally nothing. We had no money, no

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finances, no friends. We're driving on the wrong side of the

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road. The accent is terrible. I cannot understand what the

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people are saying. Every time I'll go somewhere, they'll find

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a Mexican, someone to come and translate. And then I'm like,

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no, sorry, I'm not Mexican. But I mean, sometimes you need to

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empty yourself so that God can build you up. And if you're in

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that, if you're so

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surrounded by frameworks of what your parents, what your family, what your friends, what your

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colleagues are thinking about you. You've got certain mindsets that you are not able to get

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away from. So yeah, something drastic needs to happen so that you can really start thinking

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outside of the box and so that God can start working with you. Let me let me jump in there

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because so often God works in a storm and people don't recognize that that's one of God's love

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languages is the storm. Let me give you an example of God's love language being the storm is in the

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story of so many kings that start with J. King Jehoshaphat. King Jehoshaphat, right? King

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Jehoshaphat, there he is, they're having a lovely day and then all of a sudden they discover that

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three armies have mobilized to come to wipe them off the face of the earth. And these three

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armies are coming to absolutely annihilate everyone. They want to kill everyone. I mean,

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that's not a good day when you're the king and three armies band together and they want to kill

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everyone and take everything you have and end your story. It's not a great day. But anyway,

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they pray, they fast. And here's what's so cool is they set worshipers out in front of them and

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they go into army, go into battle, completely outnumbered, right? Completely outnumbered.

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They go into battle in worship and God supernaturally set ambushes. And I want to just

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say supernatural, supernatural, supernatural, because we need to start really expecting the

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supernatural hand of God to be upon us as the people of God in the earth, like the hand of

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God was upon Israel. You know, 2 Corinthians 3 says that which came with glory, which is Moses,

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now has no glory in comparison with the surpassing glory. So I want to say that start getting ready

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for surpassing glory. What we saw on Mount Sinai where the glory of God came as a fire and burnt,

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literally charred the top of Mount Sinai, not the fake tourist Mount Sinai, the real one that's

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guarded by armies because they don't want you to actually go and see the real Mount Sinai that's

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charred with rocks. You break a rock open on the outside, it's burnt to a crisp on the inside,

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it's a normal rock because the glory of God came. And I want to say supernatural, start getting

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ready to see the supernatural favor of God, opening up opportunities, releasing grace,

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releasing provision from heaven like we've never seen before. So these three armies are coming

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against them and their response in the face of the impossible is to go out and worship and God

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sets ambushes and the two small armies band together and take out the massive army. Then

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the two small armies turn on each other and they wipe themselves out to the last man. And what's

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left over is that they have to spend three days with the entire army of Israel just to carry away

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the plunder. We might not realize this sometimes, but when God wants to bless us,

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he might be thinking, man, how can I take riches, wealth, weapons, supplies, how can I get all this

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to Jehoshaphat? He's like, I know, I'll get three armies to carry it all to him, carry it all the

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way to his nation, deliver it right at his doorstep. But it looks like there's an

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army, it looks like there's a storm coming, but there's always a blessing in the blind side. I just

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want to declare that over everyone right now and everything that we're going through. You want to

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see the blessing in the blind side before the breakthrough, because then you get to walk and

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worship in the midst of the process. You get to live in delight in the midst of the process,

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not living in stress through the process, living in delight through the process. And you will

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fast track your breakthrough. So I just want to declare that over everyone. There's a blessing

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in the blind side. And when you see it before the breakthrough, you get to live in a posture

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of delight, which expedites and actually accelerates and multiplies the breakthrough

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that you're going to see. So that's us, fam. I just feel so much favor and that sense of

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surpassing glory in the hand of God on us right now for supernatural solutions. So yeah, Marike,

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carry on with your beautiful story. Wow. The journey has just been so amazing. And to

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see that God's glory is in the midst of the storm is so beautiful. And I can remember the exact

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moment when I started really, when your story and your teachings, Benji, really changed my life.

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When we moved to the States, we traveled a bit from farmer to farmer to better opportunities.

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And it was really difficult. And I can remember the morning and there was a time frame when we

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moved from Memphis to Nebraska. And I was at such a low place because I felt like I had no purpose.

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I'm not working.

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I'm just a housewife and we are we are so poor we have we don't have money, we are just barely

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scraping by and I have no idea what I'm going to do with my life. I have no idea where I'm going,

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what I'm going to do next to generate some income and I can remember there was a stage when I didn't

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even get out of bed during the day. I would the the bus would come and get the kids at the house

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and Ricky will leave early in the morning to go and work and I'll just climb back into bed and I'll

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just try myself to sleep and I will just be in the bed doing nothing and being so hopeless that

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I couldn't see any light at the end of the tunnel and I was scrolling through Facebook and I and I

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joined the embassy that time and it was it was still when UNSAFE was in the birth of Raising

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Royalty and you guys were just in the beginning and so it was just the embassy at that stage and

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I was scrolling through your free content and I came across across the Raising Royalty series,

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the five part video series. Oh come on, I remember this. That you had there stuck away, I think you had

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done that series a year ago already but it was free content that I could access on the

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embassy page and what really really made a fundamental change in my mindset is the story

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about how Queen Elizabeth and Prince Charles raised their kids in comparison how we as

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Christians raise ours like Christians are raised to to get a job to get a college degree and to

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work where royalty is raised with with all of this wealth and they are raised on how to steward

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this wealth and I mean we are royalty and that thing of yours is probably one of the biggest

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fundamental cornerstones in my mindset change that happened yeah in that at that very low

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hopeless point and I just really want to honor you about that. I don't know if you maybe want to give

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some comments on that series or do you want me to continue? Yeah I mean I'll just

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very briefly say that this is the shift that we want to make and you know God specifically

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spoke to me and said I want to retrain you as a king. How good is that right? This journey that

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we're on so much of it is a spiritual journey yeah because it's the renewing of your mind

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I think what I needed to discover in my journey first was sonship actually get re-established in

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my identity and we talk about lack-based mindsets around finance but you can have

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lack-based mindsets spiritually lack-based mindsets around your identity that cause you

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to believe you're inadequate that you're not enough you know and when people think they're

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not enough they have questions about whether or not they're worthy of finance or do they deserve

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to be broke does this what they just have well no you are you are worthy you have a five-star

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calling you are worthy you know you are a member of the royal family of the universe and you are

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you know like you are a co-heir with Christ you're seated in heavenly places with the king of kings

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and the lord of lords so royalty is who you are you're mandated to disciple nations and this is

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what God really wants to help us discover is that you know we are royalty and and we can expect a

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royal inheritance a royal portion a royal destiny we have royal calling and it involves stewarding

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massive wealth it involves discipling nations I mean so and that it was the beginning of our

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journey so I've reached out to you Benji we became friends we became partners we just in the way back

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in the beginning of um the birth of raising royalty I've been so it's been two years now

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right and that has just been the best journey of my life so it's three years later now since

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we moved into this or entered into the states and I'm literally living living out our dream

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and I always had this dream and even as a young girl to live on a tropical island and to become

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a beach bum eventually and just surf and lay on the beach and drink cocktails and I'm pretty

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close to it Florida's not a island like an island island but it's a very island lifestyle and we

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currently live in the number one beach in South Africa in the states with white sandy beaches

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turquoise waters and it's just beautiful so that is two years later and I mean it's just

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unbelievable and this change that we've been through the minds that change the the maturity

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I mean it's been painful and me and Ricky has had this discussion several times with our kids if we

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had to turn back time and if we would have given this option all over again

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in, we would do it in a heartbeat. We would go through all of that humiliation. We would go

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through all of that pain and suffering to be in a place where God can really work with you.

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So we would choose this route over and over again. And it is just amazing. And I'm so honored and so

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grateful to be journeying with you guys and to be part of this movement. And I am so honored.

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That's so cool. Hey, one thing would be cool just to touch on very briefly is even with

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the Raising Royalty journey, so much of it is about helping people actually dare to dream

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their wildest dreams and actually started to step into it. And that's what actually got you to

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Florida. I mean, it's really difficult to preach something, not preach, let me rephrase. It's

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difficult to try and help someone, how can I say, live out their dreams if you haven't even done it

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yourself? So it's baby steps that you need to take and simple things by just moving to the

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beach. A simple thing, which is a practical, everyday lifestyle thing. So if you can accomplish

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the small things, you can really then start envisioning the nations. Because it's really for

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me as a person, and I think probably for everyone else, it's really difficult to have really big

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visions, if you're struggling to just live out your normal, simple dreams that you have.

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And that really encouraged me with each and every step and move that we make since

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I was journeying with you, Benji, with the mindset shifts, it was the science of dreams with

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Raising Royalty, and just all the skill sets that you've taught us was through all of that

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to actually see that manifest in my life. It's extraordinary. Yeah.

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has helped us. It was so key, her influence in Raising Royalty is running all of our Facebook

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marketing was so key to helping us scale to do over seven figures. That's how we were

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able to scale really quickly from just having a small amount of cash to being able to do over

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seven figures in sales in a short space of time that she was really, really critical.

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Seven, Marika and I were like the crew that were really behind the scenes building that,

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doing that and making that happen. We'll talk later about high ticket sales, which is actually

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the key to scalability. But that'll be seven later in the day, which is gonna be awesome. So

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Marika, why don't you unpack for us a little bit about the spot space that you're in now?

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Yeah, sure. So throughout my journey, I've never seen myself outside of car sales.

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And it's so beautiful to journey into something else because I was so tired of the car sales.

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And if I would walk into the supermarket to do grocery shopping with our small community,

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everyone will always stop me and ask me what specials do we have on cars? What deals can

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I make for them? So you are so sometimes structured and molded in a way what your

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community thinks about you, that you yourself cannot think in any other space than this.

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And that is just so beautiful for me to have been lifted out of that space into a brand new

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area so that you can really start expanding and stretching your mindset and skill sets.

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So just in this space, a cryptocurrency has been something that I've been intrigued in for

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a very long time. So I've just always I love learning, I love researching, I love looking

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up new ways to generate automated income. Automation, baby, that's the winning part.

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You can really start living out the dreams of your life. If you have this automated system that can

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really generate cash for you on a daily basis, how beautiful is that so that you can really

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start focusing. Hourly basis. Hourly minute basis, every minute basis. Yes, this is just amazing.

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that has been burning in my heart. And I came across this really amazing software

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and tools and skill sets on how to utilize cryptocurrencies with automations and bots

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so that you because of cryptocurrency that is so volatile in the market and it's going up and down

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unpredictable continuously. That is exactly what we want. But for your normal trader and a normal

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investor, that is not ideal. But for what we are doing with the bots, that is exactly what we're

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looking for. We are looking for that volatility.

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even though the cryptocurrency is in a downward spiral,

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our automation is still producing profits on a daily basis.

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So this is really an awesome space to enter in.

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and just really educating myself on how to master this.

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And what I've seen so far is just unbelievable.

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Unbelievable.

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So like deep dive for a second, right?

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This is a system where I can make money in crypto,

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from crypto, even if Bitcoin or Ethereum is going down.

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That's mind blowing for some people

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because the volatility of the market

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is what scares people away from Bitcoin

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and all other forms of cryptocurrency.

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So deep dive into that for a second.

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Let me jump in on that too, Seb.

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Here's how I like to explain bots,

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for people to understand how bots work

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and in relationship to crypto.

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So cryptocurrency, if you think about it,

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it's like buying a rental property, right?

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a lot of times people buy it for capital gains, right?

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I'm gonna buy this for the long-term gain,

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I'm gonna sell it in say, like a year or so.

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cryptocurrency is actually going up, it's an upward trend.

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on the way of ups and downs all the way through.

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they hold it and then they stress out, right?

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even $100, whatever amount you put in,

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you see the percentage going up and down

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buying cryptocurrency because they're like,

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oh no, it's fluctuating in price.

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a bot is like a tenant.

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just a little bit,

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a little bit like what Karina is doing

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every time it goes up and down,

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it's buying low, selling high, buying low, selling high,

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buying low, selling high at like just rapid speed.

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It's just always buying low, selling high.

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it's like having a rental property with no tenant.

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you can get the capital gains long-term,

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but if you have a bot,

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it's like putting a tenant into that property

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and you're getting rent.

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and they're just printing us money,

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whether the price is going up or down,

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the bots are printing us money every hour.

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So yeah, Marie.

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Beautifully said, that is exactly,

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that is probably the best way

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to explain this cryptocurrency bot automation, definitely.

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So yes, you wanted to say Seth, sorry.

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I'm just saying you jump in,

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tell us about that from your perspective.

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If you guys would like to do,

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can I do a screen share for us now?

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Yeah, absolutely, jump into it, let's go.

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This is the moment, everyone,

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I'm pretty sure everyone's saying shout out

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if you want to see a screen share.

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And yeah, let's see how this is working.

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we've got such a great example here as well.

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So I've got friends this week who,

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yeah, Jimmy's saying a rental property

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will only get you 5% yield in a year.

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they had over 100,000 US dollars in Ethereum

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and they transferred it to us into our crypto bank.

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which basically means people can transfer us crypto

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or they can buy crypto and bank it with us.

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and trade it for you automatically

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so you can get in on this gig of just printing money.

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they're like, oh no,

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we're like, our price has gone down,

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our value has gone down 5% or whatever.

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friends like everyone else who's holding there you go and again if you can um no that's okay

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all right that's all right um everyone else who's holding ethereum say they're big holders of

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ethereum or whatever and there's lots that are they were just all worried about oh no the value's

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gone down but as soon as my friends put their ethereum in our bank they'd printed 50 us dollars

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in the first three hours and now this week they you know that's 437 that they've printed in

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four days so they're printing on average over 100 us dollars a day in rent you think about

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that on a rental property right like that's 700 us dollars a day a week that's over a thousand

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new zealand dollars a week in rent off a hundred thousand dollar investment i mean you can't make

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that much off a rental property even if ethereum is down um in a bearish cycle at this stage

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you're still printing money and that is with all of the other coins too so ethereum and

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bitcoin is the more mature coin so they don't um give that much return on a daily basis because

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they're more matured but if you go to your shiba coins and your polymath and your emin

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emin r coins which is your newer coins which is not so matured like your gold and silver in in

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cryptocurrencies you're looking at that kind of daily daily profits so if you take that nmr one

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which is the highest one in the middle which is standing on 0.84 percent per day return so if you

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0.84 times 30 so that one's producing at this current state a stage 25 a month

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for doing nothing for having it on automation so let's just really let that sink in for a second

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your money is sitting there with bots and it's making money while you're doing nothing

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pretty much and well not pretty much that's exactly it that's exactly what you're doing

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this system prints money on automation

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and this bot profit it is being paid out into your exchange immediately so that money is available

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to spend immediately so it unfortunately it's not doing compounding of the interest the compounding

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will have to be done manually um so people understand compounding means when you put the

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money back into the box right so we're really clear yeah this is crazy so listen what we do

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just so people like um someone asked what does bot stand for it doesn't stand for anything it's a bot

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um robot you know yeah digital bot is a digital robot and computer artificial intelligence yeah so

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this this is is awesome by itself but what we've been talking about in this journey as well is

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is like mindsets of the elite around wealth which is they don't eat their seed you know like royalty

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don't just rush out and eat their seed what they do is before they spend a dollar they make sure

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that dollar has multiplied multiple times we wonder why you know the you know wealthiest people in the

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just attract money or you wonder why billionaires go bankrupt and then they can just bounce back and

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you know not like not go not become millionaires again but become billionaires again that's crazy

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right how many i read you know this week that most millionaires in the states go bankrupt

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three point on average 3.5 times uh you know in their lifetime that's crazy right but it's the

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mindset that just like i assume well i'll just make another million dollars next week i mean i

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had a friend who did that he just bought a property low sold it high made a million dollars in a week

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and he's like sweet i'm going to do something cool for the kingdom with a million dollars

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um but if you go back there to these bots because we we minimize you know like we spread the risk by

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uh having multiple different bots but i want you guys to ask yourselves how much money does

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your bank give you you know what percentage per year does your bank give you as a return

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you know like nothing right and the percentage of return that your bank gives you

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can't keep up with inflation. So there's multiple factors when you've got money in the bank. Right

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now banks are showing their true colors that if you don't have the same value system as them,

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they'll freeze your money. So that's a huge deal. Banks don't like you, they'll freeze your money.

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But also inflation, your money in a bank is not keeping up with inflation, they are using it to

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make at least a 350% return on your money. At least, that's their minimum that they're going

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to make off your money is a 350% return, but they won't even give you, you know, 10%, 5% a year.

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But when you take this, so you can see here what Mirek's showing you is, yes,

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what have we got here? 80.85%, this is nearly 1% a day. I mean, this is crazy what that is

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actually returning. Our worst one here, right, which is just ticking along at 0.15%.

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Now, you can see ETH here is down to 0.08%. But ETH and Bitcoin, like Mirek said, are not what

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we call wiggling coins, they're more of a stable coin. Most people get them just for the capital

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gains, but you can still print money off them. And like my friends are doing, even at 0.08%,

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they're going to be printing over $1,000 a week in New Zealand, you know, about $700 a week at

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the moment, even though it's down this low at 0.08%, it's often higher than that, but they're

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still printing money. But the power of it is when you bring it into compounding it, right, so you

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could leave your money in, you know, put money in there and just take it out all the time,

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or you could actually leave it in there. Now, let me just do a quick calculation with you guys.

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So you had $10,000. And you were making, let's say you were making 10% a month, 10% a month is

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really, really good, you might not make that much. But let's just say you made 10% a month,

423
00:37:19.520 --> 00:37:24.480
and you let it compound, just say you let it compound for five years, maybe you were thinking

424
00:37:24.480 --> 00:37:32.880
of, hey, let me make an investment for my kid, or for my future. And you compound $10,000 at

425
00:37:32.880 --> 00:37:44.320
10% interest for five years, what you'll have in 10 years off $10,000 is over $3 million

426
00:37:46.880 --> 00:37:52.000
in five years, right? That's more than you probably even earn in a day job in five years.

427
00:37:52.720 --> 00:37:58.720
And from a $10,000 investment, if you compound it, that's at 10% a month. So when you see

428
00:38:00.000 --> 00:38:10.400
the returns here, I mean, this is 25% a month, this is doing us at the 8.5, you know, 0.85% a day,

429
00:38:10.960 --> 00:38:16.480
that's, yeah, 25% a month. So we're not expecting that we'll get that on every bot,

430
00:38:16.480 --> 00:38:20.400
but we're getting it on that one. And there's quite a few that you are. But if you were doing

431
00:38:20.400 --> 00:38:34.080
that 25% monthly for five years, and you calculate that, that becomes, and now brace yourself,

432
00:38:34.080 --> 00:38:39.680
because this is what the wealth mindset understands. A $10,000 investment, anyone,

433
00:38:39.680 --> 00:38:44.000
and maybe drop some guesses down, right, of what you think this might compound to.

434
00:38:44.640 --> 00:38:51.680
But a $10,000 investment with a 25% return on, you know, per month,

435
00:38:53.200 --> 00:38:57.520
over five years, any guesses, Seb, Marieke, what might that become?

436
00:38:59.680 --> 00:39:04.160
$10 million? I don't know. No, that's probably too much.

437
00:39:04.160 --> 00:39:06.240
Quite nice, right? Just chuck a number out, any number.

438
00:39:06.880 --> 00:39:07.440
$10 million.

439
00:39:08.160 --> 00:39:08.960
$10 million, Seb?

440
00:39:09.920 --> 00:39:17.840
Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, maybe a little bit more conservative. $5 million?

441
00:39:18.400 --> 00:39:35.120
Okay. $6,525,304,468. Over $6.5 billion.

442
00:39:35.360 --> 00:39:39.760
Okay, so play that out again for us real slow.

443
00:39:40.880 --> 00:39:47.360
Okay, okay. So what I'm trying to talk to you about, and trying to unpack for you,

444
00:39:47.360 --> 00:39:52.720
is the velocity of money, which is what very few people understand.

445
00:39:53.280 --> 00:39:57.280
When you're working a nine to five, it's not part of the nine to five mindset.

446
00:40:00.000 --> 00:40:03.200
I'll slow the calculation really down, really slow.

447
00:40:03.200 --> 00:40:04.280
I'll slow it down.

448
00:40:04.280 --> 00:40:09.280
If you invested $10,000 and if that $10,000,

449
00:40:10.960 --> 00:40:15.960
if you could find somewhere where you returned 25% per month

450
00:40:16.680 --> 00:40:18.480
on that investment,

451
00:40:18.480 --> 00:40:21.560
and if you compounded your returns every month

452
00:40:21.560 --> 00:40:24.400
and you did that for five years,

453
00:40:24.400 --> 00:40:26.760
this is where you start to experience

454
00:40:26.800 --> 00:40:30.720
the power of the velocity of money.

455
00:40:30.720 --> 00:40:33.440
And your $10,000 investment,

456
00:40:33.440 --> 00:40:38.000
compounding at 25% per month over five years

457
00:40:38.000 --> 00:40:40.200
would become $6,525,304,468.

458
00:40:40.200 --> 00:40:45.200
$6,525,304,468.

459
00:40:55.480 --> 00:40:56.800
Wowzer.

460
00:40:56.800 --> 00:40:59.480
Wowzer is correct.

461
00:41:01.480 --> 00:41:04.240
And the thing is, what this,

462
00:41:05.440 --> 00:41:07.680
now you do it for another year, right?

463
00:41:07.680 --> 00:41:08.720
You may be like, oh, I don't know,

464
00:41:09.280 --> 00:41:10.160
maybe I'll hold onto that.

465
00:41:10.160 --> 00:41:12.440
Maybe I'll do that for another year.

466
00:41:12.440 --> 00:41:16.680
And what this is showing you is two things

467
00:41:16.680 --> 00:41:18.520
that are absolutely critical

468
00:41:18.520 --> 00:41:23.520
in the velocity of money, all right?

469
00:41:23.880 --> 00:41:25.920
I mean, this goes crazy.

470
00:41:25.920 --> 00:41:28.560
If you do that for one more year,

471
00:41:30.400 --> 00:41:33.120
it goes from $6.5 billion

472
00:41:33.120 --> 00:41:38.120
to $94 billion, $950 billion.

473
00:41:38.760 --> 00:41:43.760
$955,666,457.60.

474
00:41:49.720 --> 00:41:52.120
What this highlights to you is there's two things

475
00:41:52.120 --> 00:41:54.520
that are absolutely critical,

476
00:41:54.520 --> 00:41:56.640
that are critical factors

477
00:41:56.640 --> 00:41:59.120
when you are looking at the velocity of money,

478
00:41:59.120 --> 00:42:02.760
it's time and money, all right?

479
00:42:02.760 --> 00:42:05.600
So the time is where things start

480
00:42:05.600 --> 00:42:07.240
to get really exponential,

481
00:42:07.280 --> 00:42:10.240
even if you're compounding for two months,

482
00:42:10.240 --> 00:42:12.560
you know, it doesn't really, it's not a big deal,

483
00:42:12.560 --> 00:42:15.960
but compounding, even if you only have a small amount

484
00:42:15.960 --> 00:42:20.480
of capital or even a lower return,

485
00:42:20.480 --> 00:42:24.280
if you have time, this is where you have the capacity

486
00:42:24.280 --> 00:42:27.440
to really generate and unlock the power

487
00:42:27.440 --> 00:42:29.040
of the velocity of money.

488
00:42:29.040 --> 00:42:30.560
And that's why I'm suggesting,

489
00:42:30.560 --> 00:42:35.240
you know, like a wealth mindset is like,

490
00:42:35.760 --> 00:42:37.440
I think we've got it all wrong

491
00:42:37.440 --> 00:42:39.600
in terms of how we do money with our kids

492
00:42:39.600 --> 00:42:42.280
and how we do like our inheritance, right?

493
00:42:42.280 --> 00:42:46.120
Our inheritance, I think it's all backwards.

494
00:42:46.120 --> 00:42:47.800
I think, you know, we have this mindset of,

495
00:42:47.800 --> 00:42:51.680
hey, we wanna really make sure we raise our kids,

496
00:42:51.680 --> 00:42:54.000
you know, to earn their money and do all that.

497
00:42:54.000 --> 00:42:56.560
And, you know, I mean, there's some real benefit

498
00:42:56.560 --> 00:42:59.320
in doing hard things and training kids to do hard things.

499
00:42:59.320 --> 00:43:01.600
I tell my kids that as your dad,

500
00:43:01.600 --> 00:43:03.120
that's one of my most important jobs

501
00:43:03.120 --> 00:43:07.680
is to get you to do hard things as often as possible,

502
00:43:07.680 --> 00:43:10.160
as hard as possible, to challenge them, to grow them,

503
00:43:10.160 --> 00:43:13.760
to build character and strength and willpower.

504
00:43:14.760 --> 00:43:17.280
But we make it harder than it needs to be

505
00:43:17.280 --> 00:43:21.520
in terms of finances because we have this mindset, right?

506
00:43:21.520 --> 00:43:23.680
And this is one of the, like the flip the script

507
00:43:23.680 --> 00:43:25.280
on the royal mindsets.

508
00:43:25.280 --> 00:43:27.920
The first 20 years, you're gonna be a broke student.

509
00:43:29.200 --> 00:43:30.280
What?

510
00:43:30.280 --> 00:43:32.560
That's so unnecessary.

511
00:43:33.480 --> 00:43:34.680
What if we had this mindset

512
00:43:34.680 --> 00:43:38.080
that instead of our kids being broke students,

513
00:43:38.080 --> 00:43:41.960
we spend that first 20 years investing for them?

514
00:43:41.960 --> 00:43:43.760
Now, let's look at this.

515
00:43:43.760 --> 00:43:45.360
Let's just imagine we did,

516
00:43:45.360 --> 00:43:49.440
let's just imagine we put $1,000 aside, right?

517
00:43:49.440 --> 00:43:50.280
For our kids.

518
00:43:50.280 --> 00:43:53.520
And let's just say, okay, it's a 5% return.

519
00:43:55.960 --> 00:43:58.920
I would just say, let's just say a 2% return per month,

520
00:43:58.920 --> 00:44:01.160
but we'll do it over 20 years, all right?

521
00:44:01.200 --> 00:44:06.200
So $1,000, you put it aside with a 2% monthly return

522
00:44:07.320 --> 00:44:12.320
over 20 years, and your $1,000 would become $115,000, right?

523
00:44:15.840 --> 00:44:18.120
So your kid could start off with from a thou,

524
00:44:18.120 --> 00:44:20.480
now that's because you've got only a 2%.

525
00:44:20.480 --> 00:44:24.280
Let's look at if you can get a 3% monthly return on that.

526
00:44:24.280 --> 00:44:27.760
And let's just see what happens to the power

527
00:44:27.760 --> 00:44:30.680
as you start to unlock the velocity of money here

528
00:44:30.720 --> 00:44:35.720
is it goes, listen, the power of a monthly percentage,

529
00:44:36.080 --> 00:44:40.920
if you increase from 2% a month to 3% a month in 20 years,

530
00:44:40.920 --> 00:44:44.240
the return goes from your thousand becoming 100,000

531
00:44:44.240 --> 00:44:46.280
to becoming 1.2 million.

532
00:44:48.040 --> 00:44:51.120
So when we're looking at these little percentages here,

533
00:44:51.120 --> 00:44:56.120
even this one here that's not doing very well at 0.15%,

534
00:44:56.120 --> 00:45:00.000
that's still, what is that?

535
00:45:00.000 --> 00:45:06.840
3%, 4.5%. Yeah, it's still 4.5% a month, right on the one that's

536
00:45:06.840 --> 00:45:12.400
doing the worst. So if you did, if you did 4.5% over 20 years,

537
00:45:13.800 --> 00:45:20.800
for get off your $1,000 investment. Calculating that

538
00:45:20.800 --> 00:45:27.160
now, that becomes that $1,000 becomes over $38 million. So

539
00:45:27.760 --> 00:45:31.680
there's a few things to really consider here, if you want to

540
00:45:31.680 --> 00:45:36.000
maximize the power of the velocity of money, it's, you

541
00:45:36.000 --> 00:45:38.840
know, like how much capital do you put in, that's part of it.

542
00:45:38.880 --> 00:45:42.080
But actually, the amount of capital you have is not the big

543
00:45:42.080 --> 00:45:46.720
deal. The next thing that's important is how much interest

544
00:45:46.720 --> 00:45:50.280
can you how much return can generate on a monthly basis. And

545
00:45:50.280 --> 00:45:53.280
then the third thing is time. Now, if we take the first 20

546
00:45:53.280 --> 00:45:55.520
years of a kid's life, and instead of saying you're going

547
00:45:55.520 --> 00:45:58.480
to be a poor student, we start making investments for them. By

548
00:45:58.480 --> 00:46:00.840
the time they leave school, they can actually be set up as a

549
00:46:00.840 --> 00:46:03.960
multimillionaire, through something that's completely

550
00:46:03.960 --> 00:46:07.120
automated, they actually didn't do anything for if you can find

551
00:46:07.120 --> 00:46:12.840
the right opportunity. So I hope that just kind of helps expand

552
00:46:12.840 --> 00:46:15.680
some mindsets in terms of the power of the velocity of money,

553
00:46:16.240 --> 00:46:18.720
the way that royalty think about money, if you're going to

554
00:46:18.720 --> 00:46:22.440
retrain yourself as a king, or as a queen to think about money,

555
00:46:22.520 --> 00:46:24.760
you're not thinking about what money can I get on a weekly

556
00:46:24.760 --> 00:46:27.840
basis, just to spend to live off, you're thinking, what's the

557
00:46:27.840 --> 00:46:32.280
power of this money if I reinvest? Yeah.

558
00:46:32.880 --> 00:46:36.760
A couple people have been asking the question, how many bots can

559
00:46:36.760 --> 00:46:41.200
I have going at once? And maybe one of you could talk a little

560
00:46:41.200 --> 00:46:45.480
bit about the strategy of number of bots versus, you know, the

561
00:46:45.480 --> 00:46:47.440
money in different places, things like that.

562
00:46:50.400 --> 00:46:54.560
So for for us on the program, and you get different, you can

563
00:46:54.560 --> 00:46:58.240
do five bots as is the most common one, or you can go up to

564
00:46:58.240 --> 00:47:03.800
20 bots. And it all there's a lot of aspects that go into this

565
00:47:03.840 --> 00:47:10.800
system. So I think I'm just giving a rundown of the basic

566
00:47:10.800 --> 00:47:14.960
things you need to have certain amounts to for all of the

567
00:47:14.960 --> 00:47:18.520
settings to work together. And that is what we are doing on our

568
00:47:18.520 --> 00:47:23.240
side. But diversity is key. And because there's so many

569
00:47:23.240 --> 00:47:27.040
different coin pairs, I mean, there is over 8000 different

570
00:47:27.040 --> 00:47:31.320
cryptocurrency coins. And so there's a lot of research that

571
00:47:31.320 --> 00:47:36.560
goes into this to make sure that we find the correct coins, and

572
00:47:36.560 --> 00:47:40.320
that we can actually find coins that is wiggling enough to spit

573
00:47:40.320 --> 00:47:44.240
out a decent amount of profit on a daily basis. So there's a lot

574
00:47:44.240 --> 00:47:47.840
of technical things that goes into it. But yes, it varies from

575
00:47:48.560 --> 00:47:52.920
from person to person and how much you can invest. But we are

576
00:47:52.920 --> 00:47:58.040
going to have 20 bots at the end and running on a regular basis.

577
00:47:59.080 --> 00:48:02.880
Cool, cool. Well, it's in this screen share, and we're going to

578
00:48:02.880 --> 00:48:10.800
bring it in for a landing now. But what, what I want to say is

579
00:48:10.800 --> 00:48:16.360
that very, very few people will ever go through the amount of

580
00:48:16.360 --> 00:48:20.760
expense and amount of time and amount of challenge that's

581
00:48:20.760 --> 00:48:29.520
required to actually figure out how to run bots. Okay, so that's

582
00:48:29.520 --> 00:48:34.800
not a real simple process. It's quite a, it's a very in depth

583
00:48:34.800 --> 00:48:45.560
technical process learning about bots with, with the mentorship.

584
00:48:45.800 --> 00:48:49.680
If you're a person who thinks, man, I really want to master bots

585
00:48:49.680 --> 00:48:53.520
for myself, then you can do that. Like Marieke will teach

586
00:48:53.520 --> 00:48:57.840
you not how to not she won't teach you how to actually master

587
00:48:57.840 --> 00:49:01.280
the bots because that is like, you know, like months of full

588
00:49:01.280 --> 00:49:06.000
time training to actually master how to run bots yourself. But in

589
00:49:06.000 --> 00:49:09.240
the mentorship, what Marieke will do if, if there's people

590
00:49:09.240 --> 00:49:12.560
who really want to master bots, and it's a it's a really good

591
00:49:12.560 --> 00:49:15.640
profession to master if you want to do that, she'll show you,

592
00:49:15.640 --> 00:49:19.760
okay, here's the way to fast track your learning process to

593
00:49:19.760 --> 00:49:22.600
actually start learning about how to become how to run your

594
00:49:22.600 --> 00:49:25.240
own bots. But I'm just going to say straight off the bat, most

595
00:49:25.240 --> 00:49:29.320
people will never ever figure out how to run bots. This is not

596
00:49:29.320 --> 00:49:32.720
a simple thing. It's not cheap. And it takes a lot of time and

597
00:49:32.720 --> 00:49:36.200
you have to basically fully immerse yourself in it way more

598
00:49:36.200 --> 00:49:40.440
so than the NASDAQ trading to get to be able to come to that

599
00:49:40.440 --> 00:49:42.800
place of being able to automate it, you have to get fully

600
00:49:42.880 --> 00:49:45.520
immersed in that space and be able to do it. So what we're

601
00:49:45.520 --> 00:49:48.880
wanting to do for people is create the opportunity for

602
00:49:48.880 --> 00:49:54.040
people to give bait we've created it. We've created a

603
00:49:54.040 --> 00:49:58.400
private crypto bank, it's just an in the house thing. Now it's

604
00:49:58.400 --> 00:50:00.000
not for everyone.

605
00:50:00.000 --> 00:50:07.840
it's this crypto bank that we've created is for people who are in the raising royalty inner circle

606
00:50:07.840 --> 00:50:13.040
and Steve and I are going to finish with that in our last session today is like how you can join

607
00:50:13.040 --> 00:50:19.600
the inner circle and there's so many crazy benefits of joining the inner circle that I

608
00:50:19.600 --> 00:50:25.040
think that when you understand what it is you'll be like man this is actually not even that expensive

609
00:50:25.040 --> 00:50:30.640
it's a crazy opportunity there's so many benefits from it and we're going to be unpacking that in

610
00:50:30.640 --> 00:50:35.920
our last session and we're going to talk about the power of high ticket sales will create

611
00:50:35.920 --> 00:50:40.240
opportunities for you to make thousands of dollars in a single sale that actually fast

612
00:50:40.240 --> 00:50:44.560
tracks you towards generating leverage which then you can you know like you can raise capital

613
00:50:44.560 --> 00:50:49.920
through our system then you could bank it and then we can steward it for you and help you generate

614
00:50:50.240 --> 00:50:56.240
you know expensive returns on that through the power of compounding returns so the crypto banking

615
00:50:56.960 --> 00:51:03.840
is going to be the easiest option I would say that 99.99 percent of people would be more in

616
00:51:03.840 --> 00:51:09.280
the space of crypto banking rather than actually learning how to run crypto bots so the crypto

617
00:51:09.280 --> 00:51:16.160
banking what that's going to mean is that you can actually just either you know like you can if

618
00:51:16.160 --> 00:51:21.520
you're in the raising royalty inner circle we've got a private in-house opportunity where you can

619
00:51:21.520 --> 00:51:25.760
actually bank with us and we'll trade the crypto for you just like our friends we've got people in

620
00:51:25.760 --> 00:51:32.240
there in that bank who are printing money and we'll talk you through the details of exactly

621
00:51:32.240 --> 00:51:38.720
what that looks like and yeah but our friends who are in there who have their crypto in the bank

622
00:51:38.720 --> 00:51:40.560
are just printing money right now

623
00:51:44.800 --> 00:51:55.120
sounds awesome awesome excited so I was going to cover something really exciting in this session

624
00:51:56.000 --> 00:52:02.000
and I think we're gonna I'm gonna try and do this really really quickly in less depth than I was

625
00:52:02.000 --> 00:52:10.160
hoping to but I want to share with you a strategy of how this has so much power to help you raise

626
00:52:10.160 --> 00:52:17.360
capital if you want to start a business if you want to start a missions fund if you want to start

627
00:52:17.360 --> 00:52:23.760
a not-for-profit project there's so much power and leverage that people don't understand

628
00:52:24.240 --> 00:52:31.920
um Kathy's asking what do you mean printing money well uh exactly that our bots buy and sell

629
00:52:31.920 --> 00:52:38.160
the trade like on a constant minute by minute basis and they produce a profit and that profit

630
00:52:38.160 --> 00:52:44.720
goes straight into our crypto wallet so basically they print money so that's exactly what it is

631
00:52:44.720 --> 00:52:50.560
is they're trading for us an automated basis so I'll come back to my you know I'll come back here

632
00:52:50.560 --> 00:52:56.640
and look at um the trading thing and I'm like oh man we just made money like I wake up in the

633
00:52:56.640 --> 00:53:03.760
morning like cool we printed money it's just the bots are making us money completely automated now

634
00:53:03.760 --> 00:53:09.840
we have a lot of work that goes on in the back end to set that up for success um so we do do a lot of

635
00:53:09.840 --> 00:53:15.360
work um in the back end and then we set it up for success we put a bot on it and then the bots get

636
00:53:16.080 --> 00:53:24.560
busy so um I'm going to talk to you now about and I'm going to do this real quick because we

637
00:53:24.560 --> 00:53:34.640
got a next session coming right off the back of this here's the classic scenario entrepreneurs

638
00:53:34.640 --> 00:53:42.560
raise some money some startup capital to launch their new enterprise they get that maybe they

639
00:53:42.560 --> 00:53:49.040
raise two million dollars and then they take that two million dollars and they spend it on

640
00:53:50.560 --> 00:53:55.040
launching the enterprise and then once they've spent that they're immediately under pressure

641
00:53:55.040 --> 00:54:00.400
to start making sales to pay back investors to pay staff to cover operating costs and so what

642
00:54:00.400 --> 00:54:04.480
that means is there's a large risk for the investors is putting their money in there

643
00:54:04.480 --> 00:54:09.440
what if they don't make sales what if this goes belly up everyone's going to lose their money

644
00:54:09.440 --> 00:54:14.080
there's pressure on everyone you know there's pressure on the investors they're feeling the risk

645
00:54:14.080 --> 00:54:18.000
pressure on the entrepreneurs pressure on everyone and money can be tight and it's like ah

646
00:54:18.560 --> 00:54:22.880
right what if you change that what if you flip the script and you approach this more from

647
00:54:22.880 --> 00:54:31.040
a wealth mindset right which is say you had a way of generating five percent monthly returns

648
00:54:31.040 --> 00:54:37.200
which I mean what you can see here is you know some of our bots at the moment are producing 25

649
00:54:37.520 --> 00:54:44.560
a month some of them are producing 4.5 so it's pretty you know pretty achievable for us to reach

650
00:54:44.560 --> 00:54:50.320
a five percent return so what if you raise two million dollars and instead of spending that on

651
00:54:50.320 --> 00:54:57.760
your startup what if you just banked it right you bank two million dollars into a crypto bank like

652
00:54:57.760 --> 00:55:00.320
what we've created

653
00:55:00.000 --> 00:55:04.960
and then you produce 5% a month, it's $100,000.

654
00:55:04.960 --> 00:55:08.720
And instead of raising your $2 million capital

655
00:55:08.720 --> 00:55:11.900
and spending it all and then being under massive pressure,

656
00:55:11.900 --> 00:55:14.080
you raise $2 million capital, you bank it,

657
00:55:14.080 --> 00:55:16.080
and all of a sudden you've already produced

658
00:55:16.080 --> 00:55:20.200
$100,000 return a month.

659
00:55:20.200 --> 00:55:23.160
And maybe you produce 7% or 8%,

660
00:55:23.160 --> 00:55:27.440
and then you let that extra 3% compound on your capital

661
00:55:27.440 --> 00:55:30.760
and you run off 5%, $100,000 a month.

662
00:55:30.760 --> 00:55:32.320
And what you've actually done there

663
00:55:32.320 --> 00:55:35.200
is you've now created next to a zero risk

664
00:55:35.200 --> 00:55:37.560
investment opportunity for your investors.

665
00:55:37.560 --> 00:55:40.720
There's no pressure on the entrepreneurs.

666
00:55:40.720 --> 00:55:43.160
And listen, before you've even sold anything,

667
00:55:43.160 --> 00:55:45.200
because you understand the velocity of money

668
00:55:45.200 --> 00:55:46.360
and you've banked your money

669
00:55:46.360 --> 00:55:47.880
and your money's making money for you

670
00:55:47.880 --> 00:55:49.600
before you even start your business,

671
00:55:49.600 --> 00:55:51.320
you don't even have to sell anything

672
00:55:51.320 --> 00:55:53.400
for everyone to be happy.

673
00:55:53.400 --> 00:55:55.100
Everyone's getting paid.

674
00:55:56.100 --> 00:55:58.740
Investors are getting paid from day one,

675
00:55:58.740 --> 00:56:02.620
the entrepreneurs are getting paid from day one,

676
00:56:02.620 --> 00:56:05.420
and that's whether or not they even start the business.

677
00:56:07.540 --> 00:56:09.180
Seth, jump in on that.

678
00:56:09.180 --> 00:56:12.660
Oh yeah, I mean, what we're realizing

679
00:56:12.660 --> 00:56:16.540
with this entirely new system and economy that's emerging

680
00:56:16.540 --> 00:56:21.540
is that what's the dream of an investor

681
00:56:22.540 --> 00:56:26.940
is to make their money back and multiply it

682
00:56:26.940 --> 00:56:28.700
as fast as you possibly can.

683
00:56:29.700 --> 00:56:33.060
And we're starting to find systems and structures

684
00:56:33.060 --> 00:56:35.700
that are now accessible to regular people

685
00:56:36.740 --> 00:56:40.100
that has this emerging trend that is working.

686
00:56:40.100 --> 00:56:42.420
So even for institutional capital raises,

687
00:56:42.420 --> 00:56:46.580
say you wanted to start an insurance company or start a-

688
00:56:46.580 --> 00:56:49.100
Which we are gonna be doing, boom.

689
00:56:49.940 --> 00:56:51.780
Say you wanted to do that,

690
00:56:51.780 --> 00:56:54.900
you would, instead of just raising money

691
00:56:54.900 --> 00:56:58.300
and then waiting for five to 10 to 12 years,

692
00:56:58.300 --> 00:57:02.460
the average startup takes 12 years to IPO,

693
00:57:02.460 --> 00:57:06.840
which means go public, which is a massive financial exit.

694
00:57:06.840 --> 00:57:07.940
But what if you could help make

695
00:57:07.940 --> 00:57:10.140
your investors' money immediately

696
00:57:10.140 --> 00:57:13.580
and then live off the returns and go for that?

697
00:57:13.580 --> 00:57:17.100
So it's a super exciting place to be

698
00:57:17.100 --> 00:57:20.380
and the startup culture will be probably forever changed

699
00:57:20.380 --> 00:57:21.660
by a revolutionary like this.

700
00:57:21.660 --> 00:57:26.140
Okay, now I wanna just go straight in on something here.

701
00:57:26.140 --> 00:57:27.060
I've seen Anthony,

702
00:57:27.060 --> 00:57:28.860
the link, he's gonna jump right in here with us.

703
00:57:28.860 --> 00:57:31.380
But what if you could completely flip the script

704
00:57:31.380 --> 00:57:33.820
on missions, right?

705
00:57:33.820 --> 00:57:36.860
Because I think our missions, like our-

706
00:57:36.860 --> 00:57:38.860
I think this is about churches too.

707
00:57:38.860 --> 00:57:40.700
This is missions and churches.

708
00:57:40.700 --> 00:57:42.940
Come on, churches, wow.

709
00:57:42.940 --> 00:57:44.660
Come on, churches, come on, missions,

710
00:57:44.660 --> 00:57:47.420
come on, Christians, come on.

711
00:57:47.420 --> 00:57:48.260
Come on, family.

712
00:57:48.260 --> 00:57:51.780
Let's flip the script on this, all right?

713
00:57:51.780 --> 00:57:55.020
Because, right, you've got a missions project, right?

714
00:57:55.020 --> 00:57:56.020
Everyone's like, okay, cool.

715
00:57:56.020 --> 00:57:57.980
We're gonna put money into this missions project.

716
00:57:57.980 --> 00:57:59.540
It's gonna be great.

717
00:57:59.540 --> 00:58:02.260
You raise some funds, you chuck that.

718
00:58:02.260 --> 00:58:05.020
Well, I'm like, hey, let's totally flip the script

719
00:58:05.020 --> 00:58:06.020
on how we do missions.

720
00:58:06.020 --> 00:58:11.020
Why don't you raise $2 million US

721
00:58:11.020 --> 00:58:13.700
before you even start your missions project, right?

722
00:58:13.700 --> 00:58:15.860
People are like, $2 million, yeah, come on.

723
00:58:15.860 --> 00:58:17.940
There's so much money out there

724
00:58:17.940 --> 00:58:22.180
that if you really want it, you can find it.

725
00:58:22.180 --> 00:58:25.300
But what people wanna do before they put money into things

726
00:58:25.300 --> 00:58:28.900
is see that you've actually got a good structure

727
00:58:28.900 --> 00:58:29.740
to put it into.

728
00:58:29.740 --> 00:58:31.940
Because people who've got $2 million

729
00:58:31.940 --> 00:58:33.300
don't wanna give it to people

730
00:58:33.300 --> 00:58:35.980
who are just gonna spend it, right?

731
00:58:35.980 --> 00:58:38.820
Because to them, they understand the velocity of money

732
00:58:38.820 --> 00:58:41.700
and they often think that most Christians are really dumb.

733
00:58:41.700 --> 00:58:44.300
Most missionaries are really dumb with their money.

734
00:58:44.300 --> 00:58:46.380
And so they don't wanna just give them $2 million

735
00:58:46.380 --> 00:58:47.700
just to spend it.

736
00:58:47.700 --> 00:58:50.700
Because they're like, man, that money's dead and gone now.

737
00:58:52.140 --> 00:58:53.180
You just spent it.

738
00:58:53.180 --> 00:58:54.700
Why would you do that?

739
00:58:54.700 --> 00:58:56.380
What if you raised...

740
00:58:56.380 --> 00:58:57.580
Anthony's jumping in here.

741
00:58:57.580 --> 00:58:58.940
We'll just welcome him in.

742
00:59:08.100 --> 00:59:10.740
Yeah, so what if you flip the script completely

743
00:59:11.860 --> 00:59:14.140
and what if you raised $2 million

744
00:59:14.140 --> 00:59:15.580
for your missions project?

745
00:59:15.580 --> 00:59:17.180
Anthony, good to see you, my man.

746
00:59:17.180 --> 00:59:19.220
I'm just in full flight,

747
00:59:19.220 --> 00:59:21.020
but fantastic to have you with us.

748
00:59:21.020 --> 00:59:23.100
And we're about to have an absolute blast

749
00:59:23.100 --> 00:59:25.980
with Anthony in our next session.

750
00:59:25.980 --> 00:59:27.660
So what if you raised $2 million,

751
00:59:27.660 --> 00:59:29.780
you put it into a crypto bank

752
00:59:29.780 --> 00:59:32.060
and you're generating 5% a month off it,

753
00:59:32.060 --> 00:59:35.540
which means you've got $100,000 monthly budget now

754
00:59:35.540 --> 00:59:38.420
and you haven't even spent the capital.

755
00:59:38.420 --> 00:59:40.580
And you're generating 5%.

756
00:59:40.580 --> 00:59:43.620
So what do you do is you take the risk out of it

757
00:59:43.620 --> 00:59:46.340
and instead of spending all the money

758
00:59:46.340 --> 00:59:48.100
that people gave you for your missions project

759
00:59:48.100 --> 00:59:50.420
and it's gone and now you're poor and you're broke again,

760
00:59:50.420 --> 00:59:51.940
you actually just set yourself up

761
00:59:51.940 --> 00:59:56.940
for a long-term residual income stream.

762
00:59:58.060 --> 01:00:00.260
So that's a couple of thoughts.

763
01:00:00.000 --> 01:00:04.560
there for you guys on the velocity of money. And we're

764
01:00:04.560 --> 01:00:08.440
going to transition now to chatting with Anthony. But we

765
01:00:08.440 --> 01:00:11.520
will be talking more about how you can get into the crypto

766
01:00:11.520 --> 01:00:15.400
bank, a lot going forward, how you can join the Raising Wealthy

767
01:00:15.400 --> 01:00:20.080
Inner Circle. And Seb and I are going to have a really exciting

768
01:00:20.080 --> 01:00:25.040
close for our last session today, 7pm New Zealand time, 10pm

769
01:00:25.040 --> 01:00:28.320
Pacific time. So that last session, you definitely don't

770
01:00:28.320 --> 01:00:30.520
want to miss out on because we're going to open up a whole

771
01:00:30.520 --> 01:00:35.120
new world for you guys of high ticket sales, and of getting to

772
01:00:35.120 --> 01:00:39.360
the space of crypto banking, and a whole lot of other good things

773
01:00:39.360 --> 01:00:40.520
that we'll unpack then. But

774
01:00:43.400 --> 01:00:44.440
good chicken, eh?

775
01:00:46.080 --> 01:00:47.760
Marieke, what are your thoughts?

776
01:00:49.320 --> 01:00:52.760
Some closing thoughts on on what's been unfolding for you

777
01:00:52.760 --> 01:00:53.160
there?

778
01:00:53.520 --> 01:00:56.920
No, I'm just so excited and so honored. And Benji, this is

779
01:00:56.920 --> 01:01:00.680
really an opportunity of a lifetime. And sometimes I'm

780
01:01:00.680 --> 01:01:04.840
really skeptical of things and really just trying to make make

781
01:01:04.840 --> 01:01:08.640
sure you do the right choices. I mean, sometimes with going

782
01:01:08.640 --> 01:01:12.640
through failures, you try to learn from it and you try to

783
01:01:12.640 --> 01:01:16.760
better yourself. So sometimes I don't know if it's always good.

784
01:01:17.040 --> 01:01:20.760
But sometimes you're a little bit more skeptical. And then you

785
01:01:20.760 --> 01:01:23.520
try to make sure that you're doing the right thing and that

786
01:01:23.520 --> 01:01:26.040
you're following the right path. And you look out for warning

787
01:01:26.040 --> 01:01:30.360
signs and you make sure that you're not stepping into the

788
01:01:30.360 --> 01:01:34.960
same previous mistakes. And what I can say about this crypto

789
01:01:34.960 --> 01:01:41.240
bots is I am fully, fully, how can I say, trusted in the

790
01:01:41.240 --> 01:01:45.280
system, and just believe that this is going to truly change

791
01:01:45.280 --> 01:01:48.760
lives forever. So I'm really excited about this journey.

792
01:01:49.760 --> 01:01:53.280
One thing just to add there is the person who mentored you into

793
01:01:53.280 --> 01:01:57.000
this, they're trading constantly between 8 and 10

794
01:01:57.000 --> 01:02:00.400
million US dollars, always on bots.

795
01:02:01.560 --> 01:02:02.160
Yes.

796
01:02:02.600 --> 01:02:03.200
Yeah.

797
01:02:04.000 --> 01:02:09.080
So it's been a trusted system. And it's been tested and trialed

798
01:02:09.080 --> 01:02:14.760
sort of for many years now. And seeing the results myself going

799
01:02:14.760 --> 01:02:19.280
through it myself seeing the profits myself. And even like I

800
01:02:19.280 --> 01:02:24.800
said, if we're going on a bearish movement with the with

801
01:02:24.800 --> 01:02:28.120
the cryptocurrencies, you're still producing profit. I've

802
01:02:28.120 --> 01:02:32.560
never seen anything like this, where you can produce profits

803
01:02:32.960 --> 01:02:37.040
on a daily basis and still generate a return on your

804
01:02:37.040 --> 01:02:41.680
investment, even though the cryptocurrencies is in a

805
01:02:41.680 --> 01:02:44.560
downtrend. So this is really amazing. This is really

806
01:02:44.680 --> 01:02:47.720
something that I trust and believe in is going to change

807
01:02:47.720 --> 01:02:48.840
everyone's lives.

808
01:02:49.280 --> 01:02:52.280
Fantastic. Well, thank you so much, Marieke. It's been

809
01:02:52.280 --> 01:02:55.360
wonderful to be with you. We're really excited about the

810
01:02:55.360 --> 01:03:00.440
opportunities to come in this space. And you have a wonderful

811
01:03:00.440 --> 01:03:03.040
day. And no doubt you'll be tracking with a bunch of what

812
01:03:05.960 --> 01:03:09.320
what we're unpacking for the rest of the day, too. So love

813
01:03:09.320 --> 01:03:11.640
you. And we'll see you soon. And everyone, you'll see Marieke

814
01:03:11.640 --> 01:03:14.680
around a whole bunch. And we look forward to taking people

815
01:03:14.680 --> 01:03:19.200
deeper in that and people asking here, what's the minimum for

816
01:03:19.200 --> 01:03:21.600
our crypto bank. So if you're in the raising royalty in a

817
01:03:21.600 --> 01:03:28.680
circle, then we let people put in from 300 US dollars is the

818
01:03:28.680 --> 01:03:32.800
minimum that people can put in for joining the crypto bank. But

819
01:03:32.800 --> 01:03:36.000
we help people buy crypto all of that. So we make it real easy

820
01:03:36.000 --> 01:03:38.760
for people in that process. So you don't have to have

821
01:03:38.760 --> 01:03:41.520
experience with cryptocurrencies or anything like that. We've

822
01:03:41.520 --> 01:03:44.360
got a whole team that will come around you and fast track you

823
01:03:44.360 --> 01:03:45.600
and make it real simple.

824
01:03:45.600 --> 01:03:48.280
Awesome. All right. Well, bless you, Marieke. Thank you so much.

825
01:03:48.280 --> 01:03:49.320
And we'll catch you soon.

826
01:03:50.360 --> 01:03:51.720
Thank you. Bye.

827
01:03:55.160 --> 01:03:56.920
Anthony, my man, how are you doing?

828
01:03:57.160 --> 01:03:58.400
Hey, good guys.

829
01:04:02.360 --> 01:04:05.600
Yeah, hey, you probably don't know, but sort of way back in

830
01:04:05.600 --> 01:04:08.800
the way back after I've been treasurer of this public

831
01:04:08.800 --> 01:04:12.480
company for a bit. Another guy and I we set up a 24 hour

832
01:04:12.480 --> 01:04:17.560
foreign exchange dealing operation. And doing what in

833
01:04:17.560 --> 01:04:20.640
those days was I wouldn't say the equivalent of bots and the

834
01:04:20.640 --> 01:04:23.920
crypto space. But back in those days, you could trade spot

835
01:04:23.920 --> 01:04:26.720
deferred margin FX, they had a leverage of about 50 to one

836
01:04:26.720 --> 01:04:29.080
and of course, you can trade both sides, any currency pair

837
01:04:29.080 --> 01:04:35.200
you like. But even in foreign exchange days, in those days,

838
01:04:35.200 --> 01:04:37.280
you had to cross the spread, right? You get what I mean, when

839
01:04:37.280 --> 01:04:39.240
you buy and sell, you've got to cross the spread. In those

840
01:04:39.240 --> 01:04:41.640
days, you might do it for $5, you might do it for $10, you

841
01:04:41.680 --> 01:04:44.880
might do it for five or six pips each time, a little bit of

842
01:04:44.880 --> 01:04:47.960
brokerage fee and that tended to carve out your margins, even

843
01:04:47.960 --> 01:04:51.280
though the spreads are so narrow, but in the crypto space,

844
01:04:51.280 --> 01:04:54.640
the spreads are just almost infinitesimal. Yeah. And the

845
01:04:54.640 --> 01:04:59.800
transaction costs are so low that it really is facilitating

846
01:05:00.000 --> 01:05:05.520
um you know because transactionally you can do what you what you're doing yeah no it's very very

847
01:05:05.520 --> 01:05:13.920
yeah very very exciting yeah um hey well ladies and gentlemen if you don't know anthony uh you're

848
01:05:13.920 --> 01:05:23.760
about to love this guy and um he has got a huge wealth of knowledge um and decades and decades

849
01:05:23.760 --> 01:05:30.400
of experience chairing treasuring running companies uh massive in this space and you're

850
01:05:30.400 --> 01:05:38.000
going to really love love what he carries um here's i've got i've kind of planned this out

851
01:05:38.000 --> 01:05:41.680
of my head and i haven't fully told you guys exactly what i'm planning for this

852
01:05:43.440 --> 01:05:47.760
session okay so this is a little bit of like a surprise for you both but here's

853
01:05:47.760 --> 01:05:52.960
what i want to talk about in this session is i want to talk about the future of the world

854
01:05:54.320 --> 01:06:01.040
yes put on yeah um i want to talk about the future of economics but i want to bring like

855
01:06:01.040 --> 01:06:08.560
two elements in here that i think are really dynamic elements one i want to talk about you

856
01:06:08.560 --> 01:06:15.840
know like how much impact is the this whole space of blockchain technology going to bring into you

857
01:06:15.840 --> 01:06:20.400
know like decentralized finance how much impact is that going to have so i'm going to talk about

858
01:06:20.400 --> 01:06:26.000
that sense of you know how is this shaking things up in the world whether the trends happening but

859
01:06:26.000 --> 01:06:31.760
then the other element that i want to talk about is the supernatural dynamic of god's provision

860
01:06:31.760 --> 01:06:38.080
breaking into the world right now we heard such phenomenal testimonies from jason cobb if you

861
01:06:38.080 --> 01:06:45.520
missed the session on jason cobb with jason cobb you have to hear that because he is uh while he's

862
01:06:45.520 --> 01:06:51.760
a missionary on the front lines looking after kids and babies and people and you know total

863
01:06:51.760 --> 01:06:57.200
desperate situations you think oh maybe he's not really big on economics if you missed it he was

864
01:06:57.200 --> 01:07:03.840
he is pioneering some of the most radical spaces of economics that i believe we're about to see in

865
01:07:03.840 --> 01:07:10.320
the future especially supernatural provision there was four testimonies i believe that i just

866
01:07:10.320 --> 01:07:17.600
were rocked me one is gemstones you know they've had thousands and thousands of gemstones supernaturally

867
01:07:17.600 --> 01:07:22.400
appearing and actually when jason comes to conferences in new zealand people will follow

868
01:07:22.400 --> 01:07:29.040
him around because like basically every single event that jason goes to if he's there he doesn't

869
01:07:29.040 --> 01:07:32.800
even have to be speaking if he's in the room gemstones just start appearing all the time you

870
01:07:32.800 --> 01:07:37.200
ask you can ask people all over new zealand and i mean anywhere around the world that he goes

871
01:07:37.200 --> 01:07:41.040
people will actually once they realize he's there and they once they realize it starts happening

872
01:07:41.040 --> 01:07:44.800
they start looking on the floor all around him because these gemstones start supernaturally

873
01:07:44.800 --> 01:07:49.040
appearing everywhere and some people have had them valued and they're worth thousands of dollars

874
01:07:50.480 --> 01:07:55.120
and then they're just supernaturally appearing out of heaven so there's this realm of provision and

875
01:07:55.120 --> 01:08:01.520
actually that you know when paul said i was taken to the third heaven if you actually look at the

876
01:08:01.520 --> 01:08:07.280
hebrew characters for that you know that the it actually in hebrew the hebrew characters it's not

877
01:08:07.280 --> 01:08:14.000
the third heaven it's the realm of supply so paul actually what he wrote is i was taken to the realm

878
01:08:14.000 --> 01:08:19.920
of supply and i think this new mindset is going to settle in where we understand that heaven is not

879
01:08:19.920 --> 01:08:27.840
just a nice idea heaven is our actual physical realm of supply so i had that that supernatural

880
01:08:27.920 --> 01:08:34.880
food appearing that didn't you know like they had their food just multiply for months and months and

881
01:08:34.880 --> 01:08:41.200
months their food never ran out you just feed their whole children's home oil multiplying bread

882
01:08:41.200 --> 01:08:47.439
multiplying everything they needed just multiplied the and the third one is one of the ladies in

883
01:08:47.439 --> 01:08:53.680
their team she doesn't have a bank account but everywhere she goes whenever she needs to buy

884
01:08:53.680 --> 01:08:59.040
something she puts her hand in her pockets and the money is there doesn't matter what nation she's

885
01:08:59.040 --> 01:09:05.520
in doesn't matter what amount she needs and it's not you're not just talking once twice thousands

886
01:09:05.520 --> 01:09:12.319
of times basically every day if she needs to go and like buy some fruit for the kids she just walks

887
01:09:12.319 --> 01:09:19.200
out there puts her hand in her pocket pulls the money out every time thousands of times doesn't

888
01:09:19.200 --> 01:09:24.319
matter what country she's in she pulls out the right currency out of her pocket the realm of

889
01:09:24.319 --> 01:09:29.040
supply and then the fourth one is god's promise to these kids that they're going to start bringing

890
01:09:29.040 --> 01:09:34.240
back supernatural seeds um they're actually bringing back things now they've brought back

891
01:09:34.240 --> 01:09:39.439
gems from heaven they've also brought back power shell and god's promised them that these kids are

892
01:09:39.439 --> 01:09:45.120
also going to start bringing back seeds so they can actually start planting and growing seeds

893
01:09:45.120 --> 01:09:48.399
from heaven so i just want to um say stuff you monsanto

894
01:09:51.840 --> 01:09:56.400
you know like heaven is the realm of supply and heaven has another agenda so

895
01:09:56.400 --> 01:09:59.840
i just wanted to um bring that into

896
01:10:00.000 --> 01:10:04.440
this whole dynamic of the future of the world, where's the

897
01:10:04.440 --> 01:10:08.280
blockchain going? Where's heaven going? What is the future of

898
01:10:08.280 --> 01:10:12.320
economics going to look like? So with that, Anthony, how about

899
01:10:12.320 --> 01:10:15.840
you pray for us? And then let's wind up the prayer session.

900
01:10:16.520 --> 01:10:20.600
Oh, Lord, we just love to gather and talk about the kingdom and

901
01:10:20.600 --> 01:10:25.080
that your kingdom come, that may entail. We love to hear

902
01:10:25.080 --> 01:10:28.720
testimonies of supernatural provision and things beyond our

903
01:10:29.040 --> 01:10:36.720
current experience. And we ask Lord that you that you form

904
01:10:36.720 --> 01:10:43.240
every word that is spoken and this weekend and the session and

905
01:10:43.240 --> 01:10:46.520
that we we see your wisdom flow.

906
01:10:51.240 --> 01:10:53.920
Amen. See, why don't you light it up?

907
01:10:54.200 --> 01:10:56.200
With more prayer? Should we go there?

908
01:10:56.200 --> 01:10:58.240
With whatever you like, man. With whatever you like.

909
01:10:58.240 --> 01:10:58.560
Yeah.

910
01:10:58.560 --> 01:10:59.600
Whatever you're violent on.

911
01:11:00.720 --> 01:11:05.200
Okay. Okay. I love it. Well, why don't we just jump straight

912
01:11:05.200 --> 01:11:08.920
in? Because like, there's so much to unpack here around the

913
01:11:08.920 --> 01:11:12.680
emerging economy. What God is really doing, you know, we've

914
01:11:12.680 --> 01:11:16.000
been talking this whole weekend about this alternate economy

915
01:11:16.000 --> 01:11:18.560
that's emerging, this decentralized economy that's

916
01:11:18.560 --> 01:11:22.040
emerging, but even in decentralized economy, there's

917
01:11:22.280 --> 01:11:25.520
but even in decentralized economies, things are shifting,

918
01:11:25.520 --> 01:11:28.480
things are moving around, things are, you know, taking place

919
01:11:28.480 --> 01:11:32.400
where, you know, you know, all the way from like, things like

920
01:11:32.400 --> 01:11:35.640
SPACs, and you know, when companies are going public in

921
01:11:35.640 --> 01:11:38.640
different ways, then they've never been going public before.

922
01:11:39.560 --> 01:11:42.680
It's things moving around in different ways, because of

923
01:11:42.920 --> 01:11:45.760
government control and regulation, all the things that

924
01:11:45.760 --> 01:11:48.400
you want to talk about, they're all there, it's all happening.

925
01:11:48.400 --> 01:11:51.440
But, um, but Anthony, like, what, what are you kind of

926
01:11:51.440 --> 01:11:57.520
seeing is, is firstly, like the most problematic in the global

927
01:11:57.520 --> 01:12:00.120
economy, the future that it's projecting, and then and then I

928
01:12:00.120 --> 01:12:04.040
want to switch over to like, where are we going? What are the

929
01:12:04.040 --> 01:12:07.360
solutions that we have that are that we have access to, to help

930
01:12:07.360 --> 01:12:08.600
solve some of these problems?

931
01:12:09.040 --> 01:12:14.520
Yeah, okay. Well, here, we're that we're the world economic

932
01:12:14.520 --> 01:12:18.320
system is, well, look, the world financial system or the world

933
01:12:18.320 --> 01:12:23.000
economic system, remember, is a tool. So in the kind of worldly

934
01:12:23.000 --> 01:12:26.800
sense, is a tool for the world's expectations to create wealth

935
01:12:26.800 --> 01:12:31.000
and all the things that it does. And, you know, for us, like,

936
01:12:31.280 --> 01:12:34.800
from a kingdom perspective, it's a tool, and how long do we use

937
01:12:34.800 --> 01:12:37.320
the tool? Or is the tool going to explode into a million

938
01:12:37.320 --> 01:12:40.680
pieces? You know, we've all heard this phrase about, yeah,

939
01:12:40.680 --> 01:12:45.160
the gospel is preached on Roman roads. But but only for so long

940
01:12:45.840 --> 01:12:51.480
as there weren't IEDs in every corner. Yeah, you know. So what

941
01:12:51.480 --> 01:12:56.360
is what what is happening in this in this world? For me, I

942
01:12:56.360 --> 01:13:03.480
track back a good 100 years or so to the beginning of sovereign

943
01:13:03.480 --> 01:13:07.360
debt. And, you know, the Keynesian economic model came

944
01:13:07.360 --> 01:13:11.840
along and said that countries should borrow in times of need

945
01:13:11.840 --> 01:13:14.680
and pay it back when they get the surplus. And we'd have these

946
01:13:14.680 --> 01:13:18.160
little oscillations and things that will be hunky dory. So

947
01:13:18.160 --> 01:13:21.640
sovereign debt came into existence. Not too long after

948
01:13:21.640 --> 01:13:26.440
that, corporate debt arrived. Then we had a few sovereign debt

949
01:13:26.440 --> 01:13:32.600
crises, South America, then we had household debt was created.

950
01:13:33.360 --> 01:13:35.760
You know, for those of us that are old enough, which may not

951
01:13:35.760 --> 01:13:39.360
include you guys, I don't know, maybe maybe it's just me.

952
01:13:39.960 --> 01:13:43.920
Household debt really only came into existence around 1980.

953
01:13:43.920 --> 01:13:47.000
Until then, you know, if you wanted a new sofa, you saved up

954
01:13:47.000 --> 01:13:51.720
and bought it. So, so we've got these three debt pillars all of

955
01:13:51.720 --> 01:13:56.480
a sudden, sovereign, corporate and household. And it's become

956
01:13:56.480 --> 01:14:04.400
engorged to the point that it is untenable. And, you know, you

957
01:14:04.400 --> 01:14:07.160
hear the sort of chitter chatter about all the world's this and

958
01:14:07.160 --> 01:14:10.080
that and the debt crisis and there's so much debt and it can

959
01:14:10.080 --> 01:14:15.360
never be repaid. And you talk about United States federal debt

960
01:14:15.360 --> 01:14:19.040
at levels that are so astronomically large, you think,

961
01:14:19.040 --> 01:14:22.120
well, how can they never be repaid? Well, I guess the logical

962
01:14:22.120 --> 01:14:29.640
thing is it probably won't be. And along with the advent of

963
01:14:29.640 --> 01:14:34.360
debt, what's wrong alongside it is this, you know, capitalist

964
01:14:34.520 --> 01:14:38.560
you know, capitalist system, which breeds people into a

965
01:14:38.600 --> 01:14:41.880
pretty much an individualistic style of living, because it's

966
01:14:41.880 --> 01:14:46.120
about my little capitalist silo, and how can I accumulate wealth

967
01:14:46.120 --> 01:14:50.840
in my capitalist silo. And then and then we have an education

968
01:14:50.840 --> 01:14:54.000
system that sort of breeds creativity out of people and

969
01:14:54.000 --> 01:14:56.200
tells people what's right and wrong. So you can see these

970
01:14:56.200 --> 01:15:00.000
things will come along, tilted the world, you know,

971
01:15:00.000 --> 01:15:04.720
like if that's the that it's tilted the world off here somewhere you know what I mean you know it's

972
01:15:04.720 --> 01:15:11.280
away from the kind of the essential spirit of people so we we all get that um but but look

973
01:15:11.280 --> 01:15:16.000
there's a lot of forces at play at the moment where just as much as we can understand that

974
01:15:16.000 --> 01:15:21.200
those in control of the global financial system understand that and so they're plotting a strategy

975
01:15:21.840 --> 01:15:28.720
to to fix it um but for them to fix it they can't let it come into unbridled chaos

976
01:15:29.360 --> 01:15:35.520
because history shows that's not that flash so they've hatched a scheme and and we see

977
01:15:35.520 --> 01:15:43.120
we see snippets of this in the world economic forum media and um uh you know characterization

978
01:15:43.120 --> 01:15:48.240
things like the great reset and there are precursors to this to to get people in shape

979
01:15:48.800 --> 01:15:54.880
to accept it when it comes so this pandemic is a nice little segue distraction to say well let's

980
01:15:54.880 --> 01:16:01.120
get people acclimatized to being controlled because we need that when we kind of bring

981
01:16:01.120 --> 01:16:09.200
bring the global economic system which is now in an untenable shape when we bring that into

982
01:16:09.200 --> 01:16:16.800
its new form and some orderly fashion rather than a disorderly fashion so I think that's um

983
01:16:16.800 --> 01:16:22.000
you know what we can't predict is the exact time frame or the exact steps but I think we can see

984
01:16:22.000 --> 01:16:29.760
that a number one it's untenable number two there's a strategy to deal with it amongst a a group

985
01:16:29.760 --> 01:16:35.760
whoever it is and we can see certain facets for example independent government is going to be

986
01:16:35.760 --> 01:16:42.240
inconsistent with a collective way of reorganizing the global financial system so in other words

987
01:16:42.240 --> 01:16:47.040
independent government action has to be taken out you know so you can see all these things

988
01:16:47.040 --> 01:16:52.640
happening now all these building blocks being put in place um you know when when it comes back

989
01:16:52.640 --> 01:16:58.560
to sort of what do we do about it from a um you know how long do we walk along this roman road

990
01:16:58.560 --> 01:17:05.840
and as opposed to when do we hop off this roman road um I think that that brings us to two

991
01:17:05.840 --> 01:17:12.400
questions that the first is um like our own hard attitude we've got to be really careful we're not

992
01:17:12.400 --> 01:17:18.320
so wedded to it if it crashes we get dragged down with the ship um and then the other the

993
01:17:18.320 --> 01:17:26.800
other thing is the very practical thing as to so how do what do we do you know um you know Jesus

994
01:17:26.800 --> 01:17:32.320
said in Luke um in that parable of the miners occupy till I come you know occupy the concept

995
01:17:32.320 --> 01:17:38.000
of stewardship which is a little bit on the kind of protective side but it's far more in that take

996
01:17:38.000 --> 01:17:44.960
dominion take ground expand multiply the word you use benji velocity you know that's what it's

997
01:17:44.960 --> 01:17:52.080
speaking to um and you know we all know the reward is to the person who is faithful and

998
01:17:52.800 --> 01:18:00.080
faithful in that stewardship and that's repeated in one corinthians so we we we get we get that

999
01:18:00.080 --> 01:18:05.360
and benji you speak so so strongly of the discipline nations so the question is okay

1000
01:18:05.360 --> 01:18:14.960
in discipling nations we see the system as as falling down um you know for for us uh we we

1001
01:18:15.680 --> 01:18:22.560
do need some kind of system because we need to store things we need to transact we need to do

1002
01:18:22.560 --> 01:18:30.880
things yeah um so what is that system going to look like do do we um or how deeply do we get

1003
01:18:30.880 --> 01:18:37.840
into let's say blockchain as a paradigm and as a method and as a technology that allows us to

1004
01:18:37.840 --> 01:18:43.280
you know stand here safely and the whole crumbling building of the the existing economic system goes

1005
01:18:44.320 --> 01:18:53.680
down here and we don't get hit on the way yeah um it is a really uh

1006
01:18:53.680 --> 01:19:02.080
uh it's a dynamic space such a dynamic space if you if you look at i mean i think just in case

1007
01:19:02.080 --> 01:19:09.280
anyone doesn't know what what is centralized finance what is decentralized finance like i

1008
01:19:09.280 --> 01:19:13.120
just thought i thought it'd be cool to clarify that and then just step into this next space

1009
01:19:14.320 --> 01:19:22.400
uh well i well my interpretation of centralized finance is let's say a fiat currency of a nation

1010
01:19:22.400 --> 01:19:27.840
where you are compelled to transact and do business in that currency and you are therefore

1011
01:19:27.840 --> 01:19:32.960
connected to it and bound by its conventions where you can use it where you can't and the

1012
01:19:32.960 --> 01:19:39.360
methodology of transacting in that currency be it your online banking or let's say in a

1013
01:19:39.360 --> 01:19:44.480
blockchain space whereas a decentralized currency is something that's not subject to sovereign

1014
01:19:44.480 --> 01:19:49.680
control and could be um you and one other person or it could be a community of people however you

1015
01:19:49.680 --> 01:19:58.320
define community yeah cool what do you what do you think now i think this all kind of came together

1016
01:19:58.320 --> 01:19:59.760
but what do you think at the moment about

1017
01:20:00.000 --> 01:20:03.960
China's social credit system, their centralized economy,

1018
01:20:03.960 --> 01:20:06.960
what they've created there, like, what's your take on that?

1019
01:20:09.240 --> 01:20:14.080
Well, I think China's had a good look at how developments

1020
01:20:14.080 --> 01:20:17.600
in the, what we would all call the cryptocurrency space

1021
01:20:17.600 --> 01:20:18.760
have gone along.

1022
01:20:18.760 --> 01:20:20.680
And I think it was late September last year,

1023
01:20:20.680 --> 01:20:23.040
they just said to all the Chinese citizens,

1024
01:20:23.040 --> 01:20:24.160
you can't do it anymore.

1025
01:20:24.160 --> 01:20:27.680
So they disabled Chinese citizen independent trading

1026
01:20:27.680 --> 01:20:28.840
and cryptocurrencies.

1027
01:20:30.760 --> 01:20:32.480
With a view to having their own,

1028
01:20:33.400 --> 01:20:35.640
you know, I guess we all read the same sort of material

1029
01:20:35.640 --> 01:20:38.800
that once you end up with a digital kind of identity

1030
01:20:38.800 --> 01:20:40.360
on one of these things,

1031
01:20:40.360 --> 01:20:43.920
and you're compelled to transact in the state's currency,

1032
01:20:43.920 --> 01:20:45.840
which let's face it, we kind of are now,

1033
01:20:45.840 --> 01:20:47.480
it's just happened to be called a dollar

1034
01:20:47.480 --> 01:20:49.680
as opposed to a digital thing.

1035
01:20:49.680 --> 01:20:50.520
Yeah.

1036
01:20:51.640 --> 01:20:56.400
The difference is you can have other things added

1037
01:20:56.400 --> 01:20:59.000
or subtracted from your digital balance.

1038
01:21:01.000 --> 01:21:04.800
Because the technology enables that more systemically

1039
01:21:04.800 --> 01:21:08.560
than it does now, where for the state to go

1040
01:21:08.560 --> 01:21:10.400
and take a hundred bucks out of your bank account

1041
01:21:10.400 --> 01:21:14.840
because you missed the social credit score opportunity

1042
01:21:14.840 --> 01:21:16.120
or something rather.

1043
01:21:16.120 --> 01:21:18.960
Totally, I mean, they can do all sorts of things.

1044
01:21:18.960 --> 01:21:20.400
It was you, not me in Wellington,

1045
01:21:20.400 --> 01:21:21.480
something or other like that.

1046
01:21:21.480 --> 01:21:22.320
Yeah, yeah.

1047
01:21:22.320 --> 01:21:26.080
I mean, they can do so much in, like in China right now,

1048
01:21:26.080 --> 01:21:28.720
they're going, okay, right, well, you didn't behave

1049
01:21:28.720 --> 01:21:31.200
the way that we wanted you to behave.

1050
01:21:31.200 --> 01:21:36.200
So you've got no money now and you've got no job.

1051
01:21:37.360 --> 01:21:39.000
Yeah, and you can't travel.

1052
01:21:39.000 --> 01:21:39.840
The thing with a-

1053
01:21:39.840 --> 01:21:40.680
And you can't travel.

1054
01:21:40.680 --> 01:21:44.880
So it's ultimate control that they've really

1055
01:21:44.880 --> 01:21:46.440
actually got over people now.

1056
01:21:46.440 --> 01:21:49.680
Like they can control whether or not they can buy food.

1057
01:21:49.680 --> 01:21:50.560
Yeah.

1058
01:21:50.560 --> 01:21:53.120
Look, the difference between our existing banking system

1059
01:21:53.120 --> 01:21:56.480
and what you're describing in China is that in China,

1060
01:21:56.480 --> 01:21:59.640
the state becomes the bank of, for everyone.

1061
01:21:59.640 --> 01:22:02.320
In our Western countries, we have a bank down the road

1062
01:22:02.320 --> 01:22:04.400
that allegedly is independent from the state.

1063
01:22:04.400 --> 01:22:07.160
Well, it has some degree of independence from the state

1064
01:22:08.360 --> 01:22:11.160
that we get sort of somewhat comforted by,

1065
01:22:13.760 --> 01:22:15.200
but that comfort-

1066
01:22:15.200 --> 01:22:16.720
Somewhat comforted by.

1067
01:22:16.720 --> 01:22:17.720
Somewhat comforted by.

1068
01:22:17.720 --> 01:22:18.760
Somewhat, yeah.

1069
01:22:18.760 --> 01:22:22.640
Yeah, depending on where that bank's value system

1070
01:22:22.640 --> 01:22:24.000
and loyalty lies, isn't it?

1071
01:22:24.000 --> 01:22:26.280
Because we're seeing that this week in Canada

1072
01:22:27.080 --> 01:22:30.640
with Trudeau, that the banks are fully aligned.

1073
01:22:30.640 --> 01:22:32.440
Now, there's no pushback from the banks at all.

1074
01:22:32.440 --> 01:22:33.280
The banks are like,

1075
01:22:33.280 --> 01:22:35.320
yeah, sure, we'll freeze people's accounts.

1076
01:22:35.320 --> 01:22:37.040
Yeah, sounds great.

1077
01:22:37.040 --> 01:22:41.240
Well, look, the work for this sort of action

1078
01:22:41.240 --> 01:22:42.920
has been laid a long time ago

1079
01:22:42.920 --> 01:22:46.040
with even the anti-money laundering legislation,

1080
01:22:46.040 --> 01:22:49.000
which is now a global standard,

1081
01:22:49.000 --> 01:22:51.520
introduces methods of reporting

1082
01:22:51.520 --> 01:22:55.480
and monitoring of bank account activity

1083
01:22:55.480 --> 01:22:58.400
that we would have thought unfathomable a little while ago.

1084
01:22:58.400 --> 01:23:00.240
And when we think about transacting

1085
01:23:00.240 --> 01:23:02.520
in the cryptocurrency space,

1086
01:23:03.560 --> 01:23:05.240
you've got to get into that space, right?

1087
01:23:05.240 --> 01:23:07.080
So you've got an off-ramp and an on-ramp,

1088
01:23:07.080 --> 01:23:09.040
what we call an off-ramp or an on-ramp into it.

1089
01:23:09.040 --> 01:23:12.520
So you go out of a fiat currency into,

1090
01:23:12.520 --> 01:23:14.720
you put New Zealand dollars or US dollars,

1091
01:23:14.720 --> 01:23:15.680
whatever it is,

1092
01:23:15.680 --> 01:23:18.440
into your cryptocurrency broker's bank account

1093
01:23:18.440 --> 01:23:20.720
to acquire the cryptocurrency.

1094
01:23:20.720 --> 01:23:22.000
So that's an on-ramp.

1095
01:23:22.000 --> 01:23:23.800
So we already know in New Zealand

1096
01:23:23.840 --> 01:23:27.120
that ANZ Bank will not permit transactions

1097
01:23:27.120 --> 01:23:29.520
into cryptocurrency broker bank accounts.

1098
01:23:31.160 --> 01:23:34.120
So there's not that many banks in New Zealand.

1099
01:23:34.120 --> 01:23:37.440
So I know we're sort of probably jumping around a bit,

1100
01:23:37.440 --> 01:23:38.880
but certainly, I mean,

1101
01:23:38.880 --> 01:23:40.840
I think one of the strategic questions

1102
01:23:40.840 --> 01:23:44.080
to get into cryptocurrency in New Zealand, at least,

1103
01:23:44.080 --> 01:23:48.720
is timing because there aren't that many banks here

1104
01:23:48.720 --> 01:23:51.640
and you've got to get your money out of New Zealand dollars.

1105
01:23:52.640 --> 01:23:53.920
Yeah.

1106
01:23:53.920 --> 01:23:57.080
And it's even more difficult coming the other way.

1107
01:23:58.560 --> 01:24:00.320
Out of crypto, if you're going to buy something.

1108
01:24:00.320 --> 01:24:02.680
Changing it from crypto to NZ dollars.

1109
01:24:02.680 --> 01:24:03.520
And this is interesting.

1110
01:24:03.520 --> 01:24:04.360
I mean, this is really cool,

1111
01:24:04.360 --> 01:24:09.360
what we saw with Sean and Greg on their session

1112
01:24:09.640 --> 01:24:13.840
around TPR and the People's Reserve.

1113
01:24:13.840 --> 01:24:16.680
Now, they're not a classic cryptocurrency in a sense

1114
01:24:16.680 --> 01:24:20.200
because they've built their own entire native blockchain.

1115
01:24:20.400 --> 01:24:23.880
Now, they had 12 developers working full-time

1116
01:24:23.880 --> 01:24:27.120
for over a year to build their own,

1117
01:24:27.120 --> 01:24:31.080
like their entire ecology and infrastructure.

1118
01:24:31.080 --> 01:24:33.600
They've built it all from scratch themselves.

1119
01:24:33.600 --> 01:24:35.800
So they're not running on the Bitcoin network

1120
01:24:35.800 --> 01:24:40.800
or the Ethereum network.

1121
01:24:42.040 --> 01:24:44.000
They've got their own entire network

1122
01:24:44.000 --> 01:24:46.280
and they're creating another economy.

1123
01:24:46.280 --> 01:24:48.800
And so the TPR one, if you missed that session,

1124
01:24:48.800 --> 01:24:51.280
it's a stable coin specifically designed

1125
01:24:51.280 --> 01:24:56.080
for trading for this exact purpose as well.

1126
01:24:56.080 --> 01:24:58.000
That's the whole reason they built it,

1127
01:24:58.000 --> 01:24:59.200
the People's Reserve.

1128
01:24:59.200 --> 01:25:00.040
It's built to.

1129
01:25:00.000 --> 01:25:04.900
create a currency that people can trade. And Greg, for example,

1130
01:25:04.900 --> 01:25:08.580
in his local community, they've got, you know, a bunch of people

1131
01:25:08.580 --> 01:25:10.580
starting to jump on this a number of the businesses, you

1132
01:25:10.580 --> 01:25:13.660
can go out and buy your food with this, you can get services

1133
01:25:13.660 --> 01:25:17.340
done with this TPR coin. So I think it's interesting seeing

1134
01:25:17.340 --> 01:25:22.660
these new developments, because this TPR, you know, they just

1135
01:25:22.660 --> 01:25:26.060
take their phone in, I've got TPR on mine, I could go over

1136
01:25:26.060 --> 01:25:28.420
there as well and do it, but they just take their phone in,

1137
01:25:28.420 --> 01:25:33.700
you know, like take a photo of the, what's that thing called,

1138
01:25:33.740 --> 01:25:39.380
Seb? QR code, you mean? That's it. Just hit the QR code, they

1139
01:25:39.420 --> 01:25:41.980
automatically transact from their phone to the other

1140
01:25:41.980 --> 01:25:45.980
person's wallet. And, and what do you know, they've, they've

1141
01:25:45.980 --> 01:25:48.860
created their own system of transacting, because you're

1142
01:25:48.860 --> 01:25:51.180
right, you know, it's so essential. I mean, money makes

1143
01:25:51.180 --> 01:25:53.820
things easy, right? Like, it's nice to be able to just go down

1144
01:25:53.940 --> 01:25:56.700
buy, leave, you know, you don't have to try and take a chicken

1145
01:25:56.700 --> 01:25:58.980
and say, I want to swap you half a chicken for one of those.

1146
01:26:02.580 --> 01:26:05.580
Yeah, it's cool. You know, we've come so far, you know, if you

1147
01:26:05.580 --> 01:26:09.740
even if you think about like 200 years ago, you know, money was

1148
01:26:09.740 --> 01:26:13.100
just like paper slips of a record of what you actually

1149
01:26:13.100 --> 01:26:16.860
have actually held inside a bank, you know, like it was a

1150
01:26:16.860 --> 01:26:21.020
very real, you know, even here in the US, the Federal Reserve

1151
01:26:21.020 --> 01:26:25.060
wasn't created until, you know, the beginning of the 1900s.

1152
01:26:26.860 --> 01:26:29.580
And yet here we are with this, you know, corrupted

1153
01:26:29.580 --> 01:26:35.060
decentralized bank, banking system, that's causing, you

1154
01:26:35.060 --> 01:26:38.500
know, catastrophic problems for the for the regular person

1155
01:26:38.500 --> 01:26:42.740
that's really just being rooted in social control, through

1156
01:26:42.740 --> 01:26:48.100
financial control. And I mean, Anthony, do you see a future

1157
01:26:49.740 --> 01:26:50.620
where

1158
01:26:51.620 --> 01:26:57.220
decentralization and finance, like, is the predominant move

1159
01:26:57.220 --> 01:27:01.180
of way of transacting money? Do you see a move where that's

1160
01:27:01.180 --> 01:27:06.580
possible? Or are we, are we under the radar for as much as

1161
01:27:06.580 --> 01:27:09.540
possible? Like, I guess what I'm asking is like, say it all

1162
01:27:09.540 --> 01:27:13.820
takes critical mass, right? It takes off, everybody's using it,

1163
01:27:13.820 --> 01:27:17.140
like, there will eventually be some kind of, you know,

1164
01:27:17.380 --> 01:27:20.460
regulations that will, that will happen. But how, you know,

1165
01:27:20.460 --> 01:27:24.580
what's the future that you see in that space at a, and right

1166
01:27:24.580 --> 01:27:28.460
now, I'm specifically speaking to Western countries, you know,

1167
01:27:28.460 --> 01:27:30.020
what is the future there look like?

1168
01:27:32.620 --> 01:27:37.580
I think the under the radar description is most suitable.

1169
01:27:41.660 --> 01:27:44.820
For the for the group that's, let's say, relatively in

1170
01:27:44.820 --> 01:27:47.660
control of the situation. And you mentioned the Federal

1171
01:27:47.660 --> 01:27:50.820
Reserve, well, you know, the Federal Reserve is a privately

1172
01:27:50.820 --> 01:27:55.100
owned bank. And the most important bank of the world,

1173
01:27:55.140 --> 01:27:57.820
which nobody, few people have probably heard of called

1174
01:27:57.820 --> 01:27:59.700
something little thing called the Bank of International

1175
01:27:59.700 --> 01:28:05.260
Settlements, is similarly privately owned. Yeah. So, so

1176
01:28:05.260 --> 01:28:08.700
let's assume that they sit there having their meetings and, and,

1177
01:28:08.740 --> 01:28:12.740
and, and ponder about conversations like we're having

1178
01:28:12.740 --> 01:28:16.140
now. And, and there'd be an element of you let it go,

1179
01:28:16.140 --> 01:28:17.820
because it doesn't matter, it's not big enough, it's not

1180
01:28:17.820 --> 01:28:21.940
endemic enough, it's not a threat to you. Because it's not

1181
01:28:21.940 --> 01:28:28.540
facilitating independence of financial transactions and wealth

1182
01:28:28.540 --> 01:28:32.740
transfers and accumulation. But when it gets significant

1183
01:28:32.740 --> 01:28:37.020
enough, it is an issue to you, just like any new entrant to a

1184
01:28:37.020 --> 01:28:42.740
market. So my, you know, I do see that these developments are

1185
01:28:42.740 --> 01:28:48.140
going to be quiet. And need need to be, I think, carefully

1186
01:28:48.140 --> 01:28:54.420
constructed to be completely separated. See, blockchain runs

1187
01:28:54.420 --> 01:29:00.020
on the internet. And in China tells us it's really easy to

1188
01:29:00.020 --> 01:29:05.660
disable access to the internet. Yes, you can transact between

1189
01:29:05.660 --> 01:29:10.580
phones using Bluetooth, but you need to reconcile to a ledger in

1190
01:29:10.580 --> 01:29:15.020
the blockchain at some point. So you technically you can do this

1191
01:29:15.020 --> 01:29:22.420
on an intranet. So, yeah, I think you raised a very good

1192
01:29:22.420 --> 01:29:23.740
question about how long.

1193
01:29:25.020 --> 01:29:28.500
That's something there. On that note, but things that people

1194
01:29:28.500 --> 01:29:33.100
don't realize of what God's doing behind the scenes is Nancy

1195
01:29:33.140 --> 01:29:41.260
Cohen, spiritual mom, she is working with basically, like a

1196
01:29:41.260 --> 01:29:44.700
group of kingdom elites. You know, God's had her for, you

1197
01:29:44.700 --> 01:29:48.020
know, over 40 years, moving all around the world leading

1198
01:29:48.020 --> 01:29:52.540
billionaires to Jesus. One week when I saw her, you know, meet

1199
01:29:52.540 --> 01:29:56.660
up in Jakarta, one time in the week before I met her, she'd

1200
01:29:56.660 --> 01:29:59.900
lead 13 billionaires to Jesus. And it's not

1201
01:30:00.000 --> 01:30:06.160
difficult in Jakarta to billionaire hop, you know, like, I've done that with her in an afternoon,

1202
01:30:06.160 --> 01:30:09.280
or like, just, you're hanging out. And it's like, Oh, yeah, this lady's a billionaire,

1203
01:30:09.280 --> 01:30:13.840
this lady built an entire city. This lady's a billionaire. It's like, whoa, flip, you know, like,

1204
01:30:14.400 --> 01:30:20.720
they just, there's a bunch there. And there's a lot of really, really wealthy Christians,

1205
01:30:20.720 --> 01:30:30.080
billionaires, all around, all around the world, and a ton in Asia. Anyway, they've been working

1206
01:30:30.080 --> 01:30:36.800
on lots of projects, God's got covert projects in technology, in the spirit, and all sorts of

1207
01:30:36.800 --> 01:30:41.520
things happening. And this is this is something that's really, really massive of what God's doing.

1208
01:30:41.520 --> 01:30:47.440
And they're actually building their own internet. Yeah, you know, that actually,

1209
01:30:47.440 --> 01:30:54.080
they've already, they've already onboarded hundreds of businesses onto this privately

1210
01:30:54.080 --> 01:30:58.560
owned, kingdom run internet that no government has any control of.

1211
01:31:01.360 --> 01:31:07.120
So, yeah. So what I'm saying there is, when we look at the future,

1212
01:31:08.640 --> 01:31:11.760
there's a massive God factor here. And I want to come to that in a minute. But

1213
01:31:12.080 --> 01:31:18.800
what would you say, just in terms of, you know, in regards to, you know, our current banking systems,

1214
01:31:19.360 --> 01:31:25.440
what would be the biggest red flags and the most urgent kind of things you, you see as

1215
01:31:25.440 --> 01:31:28.240
us needing to really take stock of and really consider?

1216
01:31:32.240 --> 01:31:36.800
I think that my biggest question is the threat of what's called a bail in.

1217
01:31:37.520 --> 01:31:42.560
So, so when a, when a bank hits a problem, what's happened in the past on the recent past last 30,

1218
01:31:42.560 --> 01:31:49.120
40 years, there's typically a government has bailed out. So the government being the rest

1219
01:31:49.120 --> 01:31:52.560
of the community, right. So basically, the rest of the community is pitched in

1220
01:31:53.120 --> 01:31:57.280
taxpayer money to say, we'll stop you from failing.

1221
01:31:59.120 --> 01:32:05.920
If there's like, you're so valuable to society that we can't, we can't,

1222
01:32:06.000 --> 01:32:11.680
we can't stop you from existing laws, basically, right?

1223
01:32:12.240 --> 01:32:19.920
Yeah, that that's right. So, so after the GFC, New Zealand got a, you know, like a light touch

1224
01:32:19.920 --> 01:32:27.360
of the flu from the GFC compared to other countries that got a real whack. But we still

1225
01:32:27.360 --> 01:32:33.280
had some failures here. And some were bailed out by the government and some weren't in the previous

1226
01:32:33.280 --> 01:32:40.960
sort of economic trough in 1989 and 1990, as the stock market downturned. A government-owned

1227
01:32:40.960 --> 01:32:44.640
finance company, New Zealand was let go and the government just said tough luck

1228
01:32:46.080 --> 01:32:52.400
to everybody who lost money. So, you know, we, we shouldn't be seduced into thinking the government

1229
01:32:52.400 --> 01:32:59.840
will bail out. Now, a bail in is where the bank says to everybody who's got money on deposit

1230
01:32:59.840 --> 01:33:07.200
in the bank, sorry, you've just had to have a shave. And you've got whatever we determine you've

1231
01:33:07.200 --> 01:33:18.320
got left of your deposit. So in times of bank peril, that's the biggest threat. And whether

1232
01:33:18.320 --> 01:33:24.720
that is a rewriting that occurs when a sovereign state moves from its fiat currency, you know,

1233
01:33:24.720 --> 01:33:29.440
like New Zealand dollar or Australian dollar into the state's digital currency, or whether

1234
01:33:29.440 --> 01:33:36.160
it happens because of a marketplace event, because there's a some calamitous event in the global

1235
01:33:36.160 --> 01:33:42.480
financial markets, I'm not sure. But I think depositors, people with money in the bank need

1236
01:33:42.480 --> 01:33:50.720
to look real carefully at how safe that is. I mean, legally, what's your thoughts on this, but

1237
01:33:51.280 --> 01:33:55.840
legally, when you put your money in the bank, it's no longer your money.

1238
01:33:57.840 --> 01:34:00.960
Well, the bank has control over it. We've seen that in New Zealand,

1239
01:34:02.160 --> 01:34:06.960
and lots of other countries as well that it used to be you put your money on deposit for a year or

1240
01:34:06.960 --> 01:34:10.560
something, if you wanted it out, you just lost a bit of interest. Now you've got to sort of almost

1241
01:34:10.560 --> 01:34:16.000
prostrate yourself in front of the bank and plead reasons. And if they deem it significant,

1242
01:34:16.000 --> 01:34:19.760
sufficiently serious, they'll let you have your money back. And that's really unusual.

1243
01:34:19.760 --> 01:34:20.260
Wow.

1244
01:34:21.520 --> 01:34:26.400
So, you know, the motivation is to have your money on call. But even when you take money

1245
01:34:26.400 --> 01:34:30.240
out of a deposit, you still get the phone call about what's the money going to be used for,

1246
01:34:30.960 --> 01:34:36.560
you know, the degree of inquiry, you know, coming back to cryptocurrency, even the banks that permit

1247
01:34:36.560 --> 01:34:41.040
money to go on the on ramp into the crypto space, if it's anything meaningful, which generally means,

1248
01:34:41.600 --> 01:34:47.280
you know, 10,000 or more, you get the phone call and, you know, quite a grueling.

1249
01:34:49.200 --> 01:34:53.520
When, you know, we're tempted to think, well, hang on, it's our money,

1250
01:34:53.520 --> 01:34:56.240
we'll do with it what we want. But the bank saying it ain't.

1251
01:34:57.520 --> 01:35:00.000
Yeah, yeah, it's interesting. We, you

1252
01:35:00.000 --> 01:35:04.200
you know, here in the US with Publix where we were with a, one

1253
01:35:04.200 --> 01:35:07.680
of the biggest banks in the world, you know, originally had

1254
01:35:07.680 --> 01:35:10.560
our all of our money, you know, millions of dollars in this

1255
01:35:10.560 --> 01:35:14.840
account. And then we realized, for example, that this

1256
01:35:14.840 --> 01:35:18.400
particular bank was matching employee contributions to Planned

1257
01:35:18.400 --> 01:35:23.280
Parenthood. So literally funding abortions all across America.

1258
01:35:24.400 --> 01:35:28.640
And, which is not something that others don't, other big banks

1259
01:35:28.640 --> 01:35:31.640
don't do a lot of them do the same thing. But we we decided to

1260
01:35:31.640 --> 01:35:36.320
go and find a pro freedom bank, you know, even in this

1261
01:35:36.320 --> 01:35:39.560
conversation of banks, there's corruption inside the banks,

1262
01:35:39.600 --> 01:35:42.240
you know, and and people can often feel a little bit like,

1263
01:35:42.640 --> 01:35:46.040
man, there's no option for me because I you know, I don't have

1264
01:35:46.040 --> 01:35:50.920
$10,000 to go on this journey or anyway, so we we decided that

1265
01:35:50.920 --> 01:35:54.680
we found a bank here in California, Southern California,

1266
01:35:54.680 --> 01:35:59.440
great people. Yeah, pro freedom, love, love the love

1267
01:35:59.440 --> 01:36:02.080
America love the Constitution really want to prioritize

1268
01:36:02.080 --> 01:36:07.480
freedom in this in this country. And so we started transferring

1269
01:36:07.640 --> 01:36:12.480
wire transfers out of this big bank into to this other new

1270
01:36:12.480 --> 01:36:16.720
bank. And I get a phone call. So this this is us transferring

1271
01:36:16.720 --> 01:36:20.280
hundreds of 1000s of dollars. And I get a phone call from the

1272
01:36:20.280 --> 01:36:24.200
banker saying because my name's one of the biggest names on the

1273
01:36:24.200 --> 01:36:29.880
account saying, asking me like our political affiliations

1274
01:36:29.880 --> 01:36:35.160
asking me our what's going on internally, like, are you a

1275
01:36:35.160 --> 01:36:37.760
political action committee? Are you giving money to all these

1276
01:36:37.760 --> 01:36:44.000
different things? And this this we got totally grilled for for

1277
01:36:44.000 --> 01:36:48.400
our political views based on like the, the fact that we were

1278
01:36:48.440 --> 01:36:52.120
choosing to leave this massive corporate bank and go to one

1279
01:36:52.120 --> 01:36:55.920
that aligned with our values, even like even that is going on.

1280
01:36:56.480 --> 01:37:00.120
So we know behind the scenes now because we asked like, there's a

1281
01:37:00.120 --> 01:37:04.840
big checkmark and a big red cross on our bank account for

1282
01:37:04.840 --> 01:37:07.400
and on our financial transactions because of our

1283
01:37:07.400 --> 01:37:11.200
values, you know, and if that's just a small example of what's

1284
01:37:11.200 --> 01:37:13.840
possible, you know, it's very concerning.

1285
01:37:14.320 --> 01:37:17.120
In that process, they froze your personal account, didn't they?

1286
01:37:18.000 --> 01:37:21.440
Yes, I couldn't access my personal account for for a

1287
01:37:21.440 --> 01:37:24.560
little while. And so I had to access it through through Claire.

1288
01:37:24.800 --> 01:37:29.520
But um, yeah, that happened too. So yeah, yeah, yeah, it's a fun

1289
01:37:29.520 --> 01:37:30.320
world out there.

1290
01:37:30.520 --> 01:37:34.960
Yeah. But look, you know, we all know God's not surprised by any

1291
01:37:34.960 --> 01:37:39.840
of this. And what you're sort of segueing us into, I think Benji

1292
01:37:39.840 --> 01:37:45.640
before that, that Nancy Cohen is touching into, for me shines a

1293
01:37:45.640 --> 01:37:50.080
light on a real question that we face, which is, you know,

1294
01:37:50.080 --> 01:37:54.840
borrowing your language, Benji, about discipling nations, is, on

1295
01:37:54.840 --> 01:37:58.040
the one hand, it's that like, build it, they will come thing

1296
01:37:58.080 --> 01:38:03.560
is, is, you know, it's beholden on us to do these things to

1297
01:38:03.560 --> 01:38:06.880
create these things to create the opportunity for people to

1298
01:38:06.880 --> 01:38:10.640
like transact and bank and build wealth, independently from the

1299
01:38:10.640 --> 01:38:14.160
global financial system. But then on the other hand, there's an

1300
01:38:14.160 --> 01:38:16.760
element of, you know, when it gets this tipping point where

1301
01:38:16.760 --> 01:38:19.760
there's this absolute sort of crumbling of the existing world

1302
01:38:19.760 --> 01:38:26.600
financial system. To what extent are we able to predict

1303
01:38:26.600 --> 01:38:30.200
that and position for it? And what extent do we say, God, we

1304
01:38:30.200 --> 01:38:34.800
know you've got this, when that day comes, we're ready. You

1305
01:38:34.800 --> 01:38:38.680
know, that that balance and it's like, it's a, it's almost like

1306
01:38:38.680 --> 01:38:42.160
it's the, the daily question, isn't it of the Holy Spirit?

1307
01:38:42.160 --> 01:38:45.920
Hey, what do you want us to do today in this area? Yeah, what

1308
01:38:45.920 --> 01:38:49.320
extent is there the build, build, they will come prepared

1309
01:38:49.320 --> 01:38:50.720
to what extent is white?

1310
01:38:51.320 --> 01:38:53.840
Yeah, cool. That's got me thinking about, it's got me

1311
01:38:53.840 --> 01:38:57.040
thinking about three things right now. I'll bring you into

1312
01:38:57.040 --> 01:39:01.440
like, the ethos of this group of people that Nancy's working

1313
01:39:01.440 --> 01:39:06.960
with, because they've got a whole movement of real big

1314
01:39:07.000 --> 01:39:10.960
hitters all around the world who are focusing on something, their

1315
01:39:10.960 --> 01:39:14.280
ethos is basically like what you're talking about in terms of

1316
01:39:14.520 --> 01:39:19.000
it's untenable, the debt crisis is like, this whole system is

1317
01:39:19.000 --> 01:39:25.000
going to crash and burn. The political way of doing things of

1318
01:39:25.040 --> 01:39:30.760
tyranny is actually eventually going to crash and burn. And

1319
01:39:30.760 --> 01:39:34.280
their perspective is, this is actually like, all these

1320
01:39:34.280 --> 01:39:38.640
systems actually going to crash and burn. And out of the ashes,

1321
01:39:39.000 --> 01:39:45.840
God is calling a people to build a whole new world. I build and

1322
01:39:45.880 --> 01:39:53.960
He's actually, God looks at us with pretty, when He looks at

1323
01:39:53.960 --> 01:40:00.040
us, the capacity that He views in us is pretty big. And I think

1324
01:40:00.000 --> 01:40:07.280
capacity that God sees in us is so much greater than we've allowed ourselves to recognize in

1325
01:40:07.280 --> 01:40:14.800
ourselves. God is backing us. God is backing us 100% to Disciple Nations. He's backing us to

1326
01:40:14.800 --> 01:40:21.600
rebuild a whole new world that mirrors heaven, which is so exciting. So I think that this is

1327
01:40:22.400 --> 01:40:27.680
one of the exciting things is that God's really calling us into a space where He is backing us

1328
01:40:28.480 --> 01:40:36.240
100% to build a whole new world. Like all the systems and to actually take responsibility

1329
01:40:36.240 --> 01:40:41.120
of it and to actually govern over. Okay, hey, let's rule and reign over financial systems.

1330
01:40:41.120 --> 01:40:46.240
Let's rule and reign over political systems. And so I think there's this massive excitement

1331
01:40:48.160 --> 01:40:53.360
around the fact that God's backing us to Disciple Nations and what that looks like

1332
01:40:53.360 --> 01:40:59.920
of taking responsibility over the entire top to bottom infrastructure required to build cities,

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to build nations and to do it way better than what the world has ever seen. So I think that's

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really exciting. I think what you're touching on there is really dynamic. There's the sense of

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urgency right now and making sure that we position ourselves right now to capitalize

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on the massive amount of opportunities that are right here right now. I mean, we've moved most

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of our money out of the banking system into the crypto world and we've banked it. I've put

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into a crypto bank and it's kicking the bank's butt from day one. So and like

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putting a house deposit, having a house deposit in the bank, all I did was lose value over a year

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due to inflation. I put into our crypto bank and within a week, I'm like, flip, we could just

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about retire off the return. You know, like, this is crazy. So there's this element of urgency and

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timing, like, OK, right, where do we like, where do we position ourselves right now? That's a big

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question. And then where we're going, I think this is another thing that's so epic because

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there's urgency to make sure we figure out our finances right now. But there's also real urgency

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to to really figure out things in the supernatural realm. There's real urgency for us to grow in

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finances and wisdom and finances. There's also real urgency for us to grow in spiritual wisdom

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to understand, OK, hey, there's a there's a if we understand the realm of supply,

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if we understand the greater works that Jesus walked in and he's called us into the greater

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works, then we will be in a place that our state of being will be a 100 percent conviction of

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invincibility. And this is this is such a crazy space. You know, Jesus said we would do greater

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things than him. Now, let's look at one miracle, right? Here's my water. Jesus turned water into

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wine. He turned water into wine. And if you actually look at that miracle at the core of it,

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of what it what it was, is he simply shifted the frequency of water to the frequency of wine.

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Now, every every substance in the earth has a frequency that actually that frequency defines

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the the the frequency defines the form of what that thing is. So Jesus, Jesus simply shifts

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the frequency of water to the frequency of wine, and then the form shifts from water to wine.

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What if what if we had spiritual wisdom that enabled us to walk in what Jesus promised in

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John 14 and 12, which is you would anyone who has faith will do what I've been doing. They will do

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even greater things than these. What if part of the greater works includes us understanding and

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having the spiritual wisdom of understanding how to shift frequency of matter? And all of a sudden,

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we pick up a rock and turn it to gold. Well, you know, like, we, we pick up a rock and it turns to

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bread and we eat it. I mean, if you're going to make a miracle like that, make it something better

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than bread, probably like pick it up and it turns to bread. It's pretty good. Yeah. I can be good

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fresh from heaven's bakery. Yeah. So I think there's this element here, we are in the world

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that we're going in. I think some, some aspects of where God will take us is he's going to take us

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into the storm where the only option for us is going to be spiritual wisdom. I think there's

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other elements where the storm is going to look different and he's expecting us to really master

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these mindsets that disciple nations are saying, hey, no, create your own economies,

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uh, utilize the power of leverage, utilize the velocity.

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money. Utilize the power of community. Create your own infrastructures. Create your own economies.

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Unsubscribe from a corrupt system. Make that Revelation 13 an anti-climax. You know when

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people say they don't take the chip, they don't get to participate in the economy,

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they can't buy or sell. I'm like, I want to start a campaign, you know, like make Revelation 13

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an anti-climax. Because by the time that comes, we've already unsubscribed, we've already created

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our own new economies, we've already developed spiritual wisdom that enables us to shift the

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frequency and form, you know, we can shift matter, you know, like if you can shift matter,

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you will never, you'll be out of control. Which is, I think, where God wants to take us as a

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place of out of control. From the systems that want to control us based on values. He's like,

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no, I want you out of control. I want you untouchable. I want you living from this

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place of invincibility. I want you to be able to shift matter. I want you to be able to,

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you know, like be limitless. Yeah, that's kind of my take of where I think God's doing. He's

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bringing storms on us, but there to make us not to break us. But in the midst of the storms coming,

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we've got to be like the sons of Issachar who could determine the timings and they knew when

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to take what move and where to position themselves in that urgency. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's like it's

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a mixed bag, isn't it, Benji? You know, there's some called in this particular place and some

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in this particular place and it's a whole range. Yeah. And on that, though, I think that here's,

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I think here's the thing is that I think we've, we've thought, okay, one guy is going to be the

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financial guy. One guy is going to be the pastoral, prophetic, spiritual guy. And one person is going

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to be the, you know, there's going to be someone else who's like the health guru. I actually think

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that the space that God is taking us into now is a space where he's like, you know what?

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You can master it all. If you're diligent, you can master like Jesus mastered everything.

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Jesus was apostle, prophet, pastor, you know, evangelist, teacher. And I think sometimes people

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have a real small minded concept that, oh, okay, maybe I will one day hope to be a teacher or a

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pastor. But the whole purpose of Ephesians four and the fivefold gifting is the apostles there

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to make everyone apostolic. The past is there to make everyone pastoral, you know, empower them.

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The prophets there to empower everyone for the prophetic, you know, the evangelist is there to

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empower everyone to be evangelistic. Who have we left out? The teachers there to empower everyone

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to teach. It's the same right now. God's wanting us to come to such high levels of intelligence

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where we can master all things, where you can be a master of spiritual wisdom and financial wisdom

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and health wisdom. He wants us walking at the highest level in all of these areas. And I think

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he's just going to like, he's just inviting us now to say, hey, you don't have to be limited

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anymore. You can be limitless. You can be a full fledged manifestation. That's what, you know,

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sons are. They walk in the fullness of the fivefold. That's the whole purpose of the

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fivefold to equip everyone for sonship. And actually, if you look at Ephesians four, it

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goes on to say that the fivefold's purpose is actually to bring us all to the fullness

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of the measure of the stature of the perfection of Christ Jesus. You know, that's the whole

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purpose of the fivefold to bring all of us. It's what it is, is it's the unveiling of the sons of

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God. And the unveiling of the sons of God is like, man, we are boss level in every area of life.

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Just pretty exciting. Yeah. Yeah.

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I know we've got too much time left of it, so I'll take this moment. I wanted to toss another

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idea in here. And it's going to sound a bit droll. I've just been saying BNG, I think. But,

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you know, within that sort of domain of preaching the gospel on Roman roads and

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like, how long can we travel on some parts of this old runway?

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It's irked me for a while that in the typical fellowship, there's all these people that sit

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there that have got debt, and there's all these people that sit there, they've got money in the

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bank. Yeah. And I've often thought it'd be nice to walk into one of those fellowships and say,

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everybody stand up and go over to the left hand side on right on a scrap of paper,

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how much you have in the bank and the others right on a scrap of paper, how much you owe,

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we'll tell you them up and they'll probably be the same. In which case, why don't we just bank

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internally? You know, and then if you have a bail in, there's no risk. Yeah. And if you have

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a asset price schism, you have no debt risk. Yeah, yeah, that's crazy. Crazy.

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Because, because that's the reality, right? Like, you know,

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they, we have, in our own communities, the eternal, not

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eternal, the, the, what's the word I'm looking for? The

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capacity, yeah, capacity to internally do this, you know,

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and most average churches would have exactly that. Which is,

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it's just wild. I know, we're trying to bring it in for for a

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landing.

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It's X4 as well. You know, like, that's what the fellowship of

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believers. Here's one quick thing as well, that makes me

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01:50:31.560 --> 01:50:33.880
laugh about this is people think, oh, they were selling

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their property. So they were getting poorer and poorer. But

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they're like, you don't know who you're looking at. These guys

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were Jews, you know, like they were selling spare properties,

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because they had a lot of cash. It's not like because people

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like, oh, they're selling their property. So they were running

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out of resources. It's like, are you mental? These guys were

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investing all the time. They understood wealth, they had

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spare properties, they could sell just for a giggle.

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Jump in there.

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Amazing. Yeah, I love it. Very cool. Well, I know we're trying

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to land a plane, but um, quick spitfire, you know, what are the

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01:51:11.720 --> 01:51:16.440
most urgent action tips that people should be taking right

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now with their finances in the context of all, all that's going

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on in the world?

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Just get your interactions with the banking system down to the

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lowest practical minimum level. So yeah, less cash in the bank

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and no debt.

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Yeah. Get out of debt and get away from the golden handcuffs

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of the bank.

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I'll say one thing about getting out of debt is if you have $100,000

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01:51:53.440 --> 01:51:59.920
capital and $100,000 debt, I would personally leverage my

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$100,000 capital to generate to activate the velocity of money to

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be paying down the debt as quickly as I could without

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losing my capital. I mean, so that's kind of a thought, you

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know, like,

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yeah, yeah, no, I get where you're coming from there Benji

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and that I guess that's a very individual decision. And it

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depends on the debt and if it's the debt over your family home,

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or if it's a debt over some asset that's a bit separate or

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not so precious. And there's a lot of, I found in this sort of

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thing about debt and da, da, da, da, that it's so individual.

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I get what you're saying. Yeah, it's a cool niche.

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Yeah, yeah, we'll explore that more in the future. But Anthony,

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what a delight having you with us. We're so grateful for you

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being with us. And that was such a great, great conversation. Let

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me know if you loved Anthony and that brilliant chat there.

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Next up, and a lot of a lot of what we've got coming at you

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today is on how you can generate wealth and create wealth. Okay,

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so the next session is with an amazing couple, Anna and Asha

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from Australia, and they're gonna be talking about how they

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creating crazy wealth right now. So they, I mean, Asha will

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unpack this for you. But you want to hear this, you don't

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want to miss this. Because when they I mean, Asha had a job

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where he made a ton of money. But once they got to the point

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where they were making more money a month through residual

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income from what Anna was doing as a side hustle than he made in

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a year, they retired him to jump on board with what they're

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doing. So you want to really hear what they're doing. We're

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going to be live with them in just a minute. So Anthony, thank

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you so much. What an honor, just want to pray for everyone. One

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more time to wrap it up. And then we'll bring it to a close

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and like these other guys up.

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You go for it, Anthony.

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Oh, sorry. Lord, thank you for being with us in our

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conversation, our journey. And we always look to you for

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guidance in these turbulent times. And we love hearing of

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how you're working and others to build the fabric of your

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kingdom on earth. And that we can be a thread or a part of a

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thread woven into something that we we can't see the whole

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picture. And we don't try and see the whole picture. We trust

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you have got the whole picture. And we simply want to be

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faithful in our thread and be woven where you place us. And

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thank you for what Benji and Seb are bringing to your community

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in this weekend, and the glory that it shines on you.

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And it shines through these guys and we love you in Jesus name.

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Amen.

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Thank you, sir.

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Bless you.

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Love you guys.

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Awesome.

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See you soon.

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Okay.

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See you.

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