Hey fam, what an honor and a delight to be here with Trevor Chatham all the way from Australia
and once again great to be with all of you beautiful people. So welcome, this is going
to be an exciting session, we're going to be talking about crypto mining and some other
very exciting things. So great to have everyone with us and Trevor how are you doing today sir?
I'm doing well thanks Benji, I'm very excited to be here with you and with everybody on the call.
Fantastic, hey well it would be great if you want to pray for us to kick off the session
and then we're going to jump into it and we've got a whole bunch of, I'm really excited for what
we're going to learn today in this session and then also what we're going to, yeah just what
we're going to cover about crypto mining in this whole space, it's going to be pretty exciting and
excited to hear a bunch of your journey around being a serial entrepreneur which I think everyone's
going to love your stories but if you can take it away for us in a prayer that will be fantastic.
Dear Lord, I just ask you that you open everybody's ears today and our eyes and their hearts Lord to
what we've got to share and Lord I just ask you that you give me the words that you want these
people to hear today and Lord this is an unbelievable opportunity I know it was if it wasn't for you
Lord we wouldn't be here today you certainly got my attention I'll give you a few people to talk
to me because I missed it initially went clean over my head but I got no doubt that we're here
because of you and we just ask this in Jesus name, amen. Amen, well thank you Trevor, if you haven't
met Trevor before everyone say hi Trevor, it is a real honor to be with Trevor who is a serial
entrepreneur, set up multiple businesses, seven figures in sales and all sorts of things and
he's going to be uncovering something very exciting today a new opportunity that he is loving
but I just thought hey we'll start with a bit of your story and people can get to know you a little
and connect with you so yeah everyone if you haven't said hello yet say hello and we really
are honored to have you with us so Trevor when did here's my first question for you like when
did you kind of come to this realization that you'd love to get into business because not
every single person has that mindset or realization that they'd like to get into business but when did
the I guess the penny drop for you in a sense you decided hey I think I need to get into the
space of running my own business well what happened is I did veterinary science at university
my dad was a vet my grandfather was a vet so I was coming for a long range of vets and so I
brought up in a professional type household I guess but what happened when I was at university
I realized that large animal vet science was only a temporary occupation and I could see what was
happening with dad's health I could see what was happening the health of all the other large animal
vets we were doing prac work with during the holidays and so on and I remember saying to other
students at 10 years is a large animal veterinarian long enough and they're saying to me what do you
mean I said well look around guys I said if we keep doing what these other guys are doing I think
health-wise we're going to end up like them and what was what did it look like what was
happening for them their health was packing up by the time they hit you know 60 and you know and
back then I was only you know early 20s but I could see what was happening in my dad's health
packed up totally at the age of 54 and so you know I could see his health going downhill but I can
also see the others and I didn't realize it at the time but it's just large animal practice is fairly
stressful and so there's a lot of stress in that and I didn't realize what was going on but I could
just see what was happening and so don't get me wrong I love being a veterinarian and love working
there doing all the things but I realized that I had to find something else and so I end up you
know doing farm consultancy work uh helping guys with cash flow budget spreadsheets and all that
sort of stuff also uh ended up you know writing computer programs uh set up a yacht charter
company australian beer boat charters up in the mid-sundays hang on hang on so let's just slow
this down a little bit because there's a lot happening here so were you still we're still
working as a vet at the same time or did you transition yeah no I was still working as a vet
okay at the same time right okay great so you and how old are you at this point
how old would I have been at that point well uh gee when I set the yacht charter company up
uh yeah I was 29 29 okay so you you graduated you became a vet and as a vet were you just working a
like a nine to
five type role, like what was your role in the vet world?
Well, in large general practice,
I mean, you're running your own show.
Someone's got to be on call 24 seven, right?
And so, you know, we did, you know,
initially with my dad and I,
and then what happened is we had, you know,
our assistants and that sort of stuff,
but you were still on call a lot of the time.
Okay, so it's basically a family business
that you're running, even as a vet though.
Oh yeah, definitely running a business as a veterinarian.
No doubt about that, you know,
staff and, you know, ladies to help in the office
and, you know, they double up as nurses
and that sort of stuff in a country practice.
Yeah, definitely.
But yeah, that's what we were doing, right?
And then what happened is we got involved
with the farm management side of things
and realised that, you know, an actual fact,
we got to feed the animals, feed the livestock,
the cows better.
And so we started looking at that sort of thing
and we're doing that.
And then ended up from there going into helping the guys
doing cashflow budgets and ended up writing a programme
for the National Bank at one stage
that they could use to help farmers
with their cashflow budgets.
Oh.
And then, because I knew that long-term vet science
wasn't it.
Yeah.
You know, I mean, if you're not sure where you're headed,
just have a look at the people
that are doing what you're doing today
because I've been doing for an extra 10, 20, 50 years.
Yeah, that's a good point.
Then maybe guys just want to encourage you
to actually just pause just for a moment
and have a think about that.
Whatever you're doing right now,
what does it look like for the people who are doing that,
who have got 10 years on you or 20 years on you?
Yeah, because that can be a really good indication
of exactly where you're headed.
And you just got to ask yourself,
hey, do I love that?
Do I not love that?
Do I want that or don't I?
Because if you're in that luxurious place right now
of being able to make an adjustment right now,
that's a pretty precious opportunity
that you don't want to throw away.
So, you know, it's like a bullet.
You know, time, and you'll probably witness this,
how long does it feel since you were 29, Trevor?
Well, I'm just in 70, mate, right?
Yeah, but how long ago does it feel that you were 29?
Does that feel like a long time ago or?
Oh, I still feel young at heart, right?
I'm still a kid at heart, right?
And so it doesn't feel that long, right?
But it is 41 years when you actually add it up
with your fingers and start measuring it out.
But I can't believe that.
Yeah, I mean, time goes like a bullet.
Oh, yeah.
You know, I mean, it's just unbelievable.
And time just flies.
But luckily, you know, I'm still young at heart,
still a kid at heart.
Yeah, absolutely.
So if you're younger than 70,
then you just want to consider the fact that time flies,
time's like a bullet,
and you have the luxury now
of setting the trajectory of your life,
just like a bullet comes out of a gun,
you have the luxury of seeing that trajectory.
So just check and see, you know,
if the people who are 10 or 20 years ahead of you,
if that's where you want to go, then fantastic.
Stay right on that same track.
But if you want to make a change,
if that's not where you want to actually end up,
if you want something different for your life,
then you better change the trajectory in a hurry.
So on that, like,
so you set up your yacht charter business at 29.
And how long after that before you decided,
okay, I'm done on the vet life,
and you made a big transition?
Well, as it turned out,
I ended up doing 11 years in practice.
When I was at university, I'd said 10.
But what happened?
I set up the yacht charter company,
and, you know, doing the farm consultancy work
and computer programming,
but then I got introduced to the network marketing industry.
I'd never heard of it before,
never seen anything like it.
And I was actually at the boat show in Melbourne,
July, 1985.
Got talking to a lady there,
she introduced me to her husband.
You got to understand this,
his daytime job was throwing rubbish
on the back of a truck.
He was a garber.
Yeah.
He'd been an alcoholic at the age of 14,
full-on Christian guy,
and totally reformed.
But he changed my life.
That one meeting changed my life totally.
I promise you that.
Well, I'm just thinking about this
contextually around my life.
I was two years old.
I was, I'm an 83 baby.
So I was two years old and there you are in a meeting.
Where was your meeting again?
Well, I met him at the boat show
because I was down there promoting the yacht charter company.
Yes.
Right, so we had a stand at the show
and an amazing story.
I've been at a computer programming show
for veterinarians a week before in Sydney
and I'd driven down overnight, only had four hours sleep.
There all day promoting a yacht charter.
Single girl comes up.
I didn't even bother to stand up
because single girls don't charter yachts.
Yeah.
Right, but anyway, she gave me this big smile
and asked me if I was enjoying the show.
I said, well, to be honest, I'm bored stupid.
And she said, what do you mean?
I said, well, here I am all day
selling the virtues of a yacht charter in Queensland.
I said, I've only had four hours sleep.
I've just been up in, you know,
last week I was up there talking about computers.
And she said, well, what are you doing
selling both computers and yacht charters?
I said, well, basically I'm a veterinarian.
Well, that just makes perfect sense.
Right?
And then immediately she said,
you should talk to my husband.
He's into networking.
And this is 1985.
I said, fantastic.
I said, what sort of computers?
Oh.
You got to understand Benji,
this is when they were first two up in the one room
with a wire.
And that was high tech.
Right?
We didn't do that.
We just standalone computers.
No way you can hook them together.
Pull the floppy disk out, put it into the other one.
If you want to join them.
Yes, yes.
This is a blast from the past Trevor.
You're taking us all way back.
I mean, we're talking blockchain stuff
and crypto in this session.
But you're still, you're from the age
where floppy disks,
floppy disks.
That was a good mouth.
What do you call?
That came out wrong, but it was beautiful.
So floppy disks.
You're from the era when floppy disks
were high tech, brand new revolutionary stuff.
So Ben, you have, you are spanning,
you are spanning some massive technological advance
in your days.
Yeah mate.
You know, when you look at it,
I went back in those days, no mobile phones.
You know, one of my dreams was to get a fax machine.
That was one of my goals.
I had written it down at the time.
But, so what happened?
In the end, I caught up with Steve
and he showed me his networking concept
a couple of days later.
Loaded me up with half a dozen audio cassette tapes.
That's also dating me.
Yeah.
By the time I'd driven,
by the time I'd driven home,
listening to these cassette tapes,
I was so fired up and excited.
I'd never heard anything like this.
I mean, all of a sudden I realized this networking
was a matter of teaching people to teach people to teach.
It was all geometric progressions.
Like, did we get five?
We get 525, 125, 625, 3025, and so on, right?
This blew my mind.
Because I was used to doing the work, getting paid.
Yeah, yeah.
If I wasn't doing the work, I wasn't getting paid.
And see, that's a real big concept
that we really want to help people connect with
in this Kingdom Business Summit,
is it's a dramatic mindset shift.
Even if you own your own business,
in a sense, like, the business that you owned
was more like, I would say it was more like
you owned a job as a veterinarian
than owning a business that was automated, right?
Because you were still in that place.
Even though you owned the business as a family business,
if you didn't work, you didn't get paid, right?
Not only that, mate, I had 400 bosses.
If they rang me, I had to get up and go.
Yeah.
I couldn't say, oh, I'm tired, I just want to sleep in.
They've got a cow out there calving or whatever.
I've got to get up in the middle of the night and go.
Yeah.
So-
That's what running that sort of business is like.
Yeah.
Totally.
And so this is just a mindset shift
that I really want to help you guys
really grapple with over this time.
It's a big transition, but it's a transition
from trading time for value.
So you can trade time for value, or you can trade,
sorry, time for value.
You can trade time for money,
or you can trade value for money,
or you can have your money make money for you.
And those are all really different mindsets and spaces.
So you really did live for a good chunk of your life
in that trading time for money space.
Oh, definitely.
Right.
That's where I was at, right?
I'm in Kiyosaki, Robert Kiyosaki
in a book called Cashflow Quadrant.
Yeah.
That's exactly what I'm thinking about.
Okay.
He talks about the E's, employees, S's,
small business operators or self-employed professionals.
And his definition of an S is you've got to be there, right?
Whereas then he's got on the other side of the quadrant.
And so that's active income on the left-hand side.
But then on the right-hand side,
he talks about a business owner, right?
And the investors, and the business owner
by Kiyosaki's definition.
he can take 12 months out of the business
and it'll still run successfully without him.
But the reason he can do that is he's got systems.
Yes, absolutely, absolutely.
It makes all the difference.
Yeah.
And so what happened is, you know, I'd been an S.
Everything I was doing was the S quadrant.
Yes.
And then all of a sudden I realized,
man, there's a whole new life out there.
I'm just pulling that diagram up actually
because it's a really good diagram.
I've just grabbed it online.
Anyone can find it.
Just look for Cashflow Quadrant.
But this is it here.
Oh, it's taking me some random website.
Let me do this for you quickly.
Right, I'll do this and then we can just pull it up for you.
All sorts of goodies on the desktop here
that are about to get a good clear out.
So this is the Cashflow Quadrant.
So if you want to just walk us through that.
Well, see, that's perfect, mate, right?
See what happens?
He talks about the fact that you've got 95% of the people
live on the left-hand side of the quadrant.
Either employees, they have a job, right?
Or self-employed or small business operators,
where basically you own the job.
Yeah.
Right, and that's where I was.
As I mentioned before, I had 400 bosses.
Yeah.
And they all earned the job.
Yeah.
But that's active income
on the left-hand side of the quadrant.
Yes.
Whereas what he talks about,
and that's where you've got 95% of the population
live on that left-hand side.
Yeah.
And then on the right-hand side,
you've got the business owner, where you own a system.
This is exactly what he talks about, right?
And what I've found over the years,
a lot of people in the S quadrant,
they've got no idea that the guys in the B quadrant
think totally differently.
That's it, mate.
This is the only thing that's gonna determine
whether or not you stay in any of these quadrants
is all about mindset, isn't it?
To me, the most important thing that Kiyosaki talks about
is the fact that the people in each of the quadrants
don't just make their money in different ways,
but they think totally differently.
Yes.
Right?
And so what happens,
then you've got the guys down here in the investors,
well, they've got their money working for them.
Yeah.
And when I look back on my life,
I've had very little time in the E quadrant,
only when I was a student, really a few times,
but the rest, I've been in the S,
and then for the last 30 plus years, the B quadrant.
Yeah.
But it's a total shift going from the S to the B quadrant.
See, the guys in the S quadrant,
quite often they're proud of the fact
that they can do it better than anybody else.
Yeah.
The B quadrant guys,
they don't care if other people can do it better than they.
They want that to happen.
They just want to set up systems
so they don't have to do it.
Yeah.
And I mean, this is something that raising royalty
is really built on the dynamic
of creating automated systems.
That's what we pour so much of our time
into, not if it just goes into the space
of helping people create automation
so that they can easily step into the space
of that B space of, you know, being a business owner,
you own a system, you have leverage.
It's totally different.
Now, where we're going right now
is you kind of spend a bunch of time in that business owner,
you set up businesses, you did some network marketing,
you made seven figures in sales,
actually had a really cool year one year as well.
Why don't you tell us about the year where you,
this is I think what makes,
what really changes is you go from S,
the self-employed to the business owner,
lifestyle changes dramatically,
the possibilities start opening up like crazy.
Yeah.
Well, see, one of the actual fact happens,
Benji, I think it's important to mention this too,
is it's got to happen in your mind first
before it's going to happen in reality.
Oh, so good.
Right?
And this is just what's got to happen.
And so what happened?
I was coming into this networking concept.
If I just tell you my story.
Yeah.
And got involved with that,
got plugged into an absolutely brilliant line of teaching
and sponsorship that I was in,
but it changed my thinking totally.
And so I got out there and made some small improvements
to the system that they had just in the presentation,
but then when it meant we grew fast
than anybody else in that game had,
even though it had been going 14 years
when I got involved in Australia.
So it wasn't new, but it had a proven track record.
I'd much prefer to have something
with a proven track record
where other people have been successful.
And so we got in there and,
just so you understand where I'm coming from.
basically, ambitiously lazy.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
I don't mind the idea of working hard
if I know it's only temporary.
I'm not gonna have the rewards coming in forever.
Yes.
For a long, long time, right?
And then you can't sit back.
You see, what happened is I'd always had this goal
or dream to live in Queensland somewhere.
And initially, just so I understand,
I mean, if you're sitting there looking at this today,
what you gotta have is a broad,
inspirational vision of the future.
And a sense of discontent with the present.
Yeah.
Otherwise, you're not gonna change.
Yeah.
So, so powerful.
And initially, what I did was I said,
in five years' time,
this is after I'd already built a successful business
in the networking industry.
But I said, in five years' time,
I'll live in either Northern New South Wales
or Southern Queensland
and have a 40-foot catamaran tied up at the back door.
Right?
So anyway, that's as specific as it was initially.
I was living in Victoria,
still living in country Victoria,
Kahuna at the time.
But what happened?
We went out there and over the next five years,
all of that came about.
That's beautiful.
We ended up living on the canal at Mooloolaba,
had a 40-foot catamaran built,
but I had the time to take out
and just to watch the guys building the boat
at my back door.
Right?
And then the following year, in 94,
we pulled the kids out of school for 12 months
and we lived on the boat for over six months.
Wow.
But we sailed as far South as Hobart,
as far North as Townsville and back,
different trips, right?
Went across to New Zealand,
snow skiing there at one stage.
I mean, Hawaii, did a Hawaii trip,
went across to the UK and Europe,
Ryan River cruise, Mediterranean cruise,
end up with a six-week four-wheel drive trip
out through the center,
but it was 14 months out of my business.
Yeah.
But it made no difference to our income.
The following year,
we'd already bought a bigger block of land
and we built this house up there on Mooloolaba
on Minyama Island.
It was, well, it was two and a half million dollars
back then.
And it was sold a couple of years ago now
for 6.75 million.
Yeah.
Right?
But I mean, it was like 120 squares.
And so what I guess I'd really like to emphasize
for people is some people never change
from being an employee.
Some people never change from self-employed.
They just, they can get stuck there.
But the only thing that's going to hold you there
is your mindsets.
If you allow your mindsets to transition,
your world will actually transition with that change.
That's actually, you know, Romans 12, two in action,
do not conform to the pattern of this world,
but be transformed by the renewing of your mind.
It's going to impact every area of your life.
Now, what we're going to really focus on in this session
is you've really made a big transition, haven't you?
From the B to the I,
and I'd love to hear how that began to take place.
Yeah, well, what happened is, you know,
recently, and it was only last year, you know,
I've been involved with networking for, since full-time,
since January 31st, 1986.
So we're talking 35 years, 36 years now, full-time.
And, you know, that's over half my life.
Yeah.
But what happened is last year I got introduced
to a membership program based in the crypto sphere.
And to be honest with you, it went clean over my head.
First time I saw it, I thought, oh, it's probably a scam.
Looks too good to be true.
Didn't bother checking it out.
That was in April.
Yeah.
And then what happened is,
luckily I was contacted again by an ex-pastor,
ex-business guy, good friend of mine for nine years.
And, you know, he was talking to me about it
and saying how well it was working
and all this sort of stuff, right?
Finally, I got around to looking at it and I thought, okay,
well, I could see how this could work,
but I know I'm doing what I'm meant to be doing
from a spiritual point of view
with the other network I was in.
And so I thought, when I went to bed that night,
I'll just wish him luck and keep doing what I'm doing.
But next morning I was set up to have a Zoom call
with a guy and I'd been set up for three days.
Had not spoken to him for over 10 years.
And he was telling me how luckily
he'd always invested wisely, right?
Now, to be honest, I hadn't done that.
Yeah.
You know, I've been good in the S quadrant,
I've been good in the B quadrant,
but basically anytime I put my fingers
into the I quadrant, it hadn't worked out well, right?
I mean, I had a go at different things,
but it just hadn't worked out.
Whereas this guy's telling me
it had always worked out well for him.
And that's why he was able to retire
from networking three years ago.
Yeah.
And he went on to explain that he was lucky enough
to be part of a think tank.
In this little town he lived in.
out in Arizona. There were about seven people involved. He was the only networker amongst them.
The rest were all business guys. And what he explained to me, he said, every time one of us
had come up with an idea, we'd throw it on the table, we'd all pull it to bits. And that's what
I've been doing for nearly 30 years with the same group. And then he mentioned, and last year,
one of the guys brought to the table this program whereby you get half a percent per day for 600
days. You end up with three times in rewards back from what you'd put in. And as soon as he said it,
I'm thinking, Lord, you've got my attention. Because with less than 12 hours earlier,
I'd gone to bed thinking, I'm not going to worry about it.
Yeah. This is your third encounter with this concept.
Yeah. Right. And so what happens, I'm sitting there and I said, you've got to be kidding. I
said, how does that work? And I spent 20 minutes asking him questions. But what I could visualize
as during this process is there I am sitting on the roof of the house. The floodwaters are rising.
I've just waved goodbye to a speedboat that wanted to come and rescue me saying, no, the Lord's going
to save me. And now I see this helicopter coming with a ladder hanging down. And I'm thinking,
well, I'm not going to miss this opportunity. So in the end, I asked him 20 minutes of questions.
And in the end, he said, look, Trev, if you like, he said, I can send you a video you can have a
look at. He said, that'll give you an idea of what's going on. But more importantly,
the due diligence documents. I said, what do you mean, due diligence documents? I've been
in the industry 36 years. I've never heard anybody mention that. And he said, oh, well,
that's where you can go through and check out. It's all independent websites. So you can see
the guys behind it are for real. They are billionaires, right? They are working with CSIRO
in Australia, right? Commonwealth Scientific Crowd, right? Government. They are working with
Monash University. They're registered there. They've got Amazon Prime documentary videos.
Whole big section on these guys. He said, if you like, I can send that. I said, yeah, that'd be
great. On the video, exactly the same one I've watched the night before. I promise you, Benji,
I watched it much more closely second time around. Yes. Because this is crypto. I mean,
you've got to understand where I'm coming from. Oh, yeah. I mean, you are coming from the world
of floppy disks. You know, this is a big journey. You got blown away by floppy disks. So it's
actually kind of amazing. And I think that, you know, I think that there's actually not that many
people that are at your age that have actually been so versatile and have actually been able to
make this step into the crypto space. So that's pretty awesome to see. Even if it took a few
videos, I mean, I think it would take that for any of us. But it's just really encouraging to
see someone, you know, who who's lived through the invention of floppy disks come in and now
in this space of blockchain and crypto. It's awesome. Well, see, where I was coming from with
the crypto, I didn't understand it. All I would ever Google was how many crypto currencies are
there? Once it got to 1300, I stopped doing that because I'm thinking, man, anybody with a big
enough computer can, you know, make one of these things. I didn't realize, you know, I see the
value going up and up and up, but I didn't really realize. And so that's where I was at headspace
wise, when the guys started talking about this network, about blockchain, building the community,
you know, 30 million people and all this sort of stuff. And in the end, when I heard that,
I'm thinking, OK, well, I can set up a little part time job. Keep doing my other thing.
But I've done multiple things before. And it's not a problem. It's just part time.
And sure, I help build communities. That's what I've been doing. I help people change mindsets.
And what I had to do here was do a lot of study to start with, and it was just on that one video,
but going through making sure. So I actually got screenshots of every screen, every slide they had,
put it into my own PowerPoint, because I learned a lot better from the written word
than I did from watching a video. OK, so with this video, like, let's like help us understand
what is it? What's the crypto space that you're in? What is crypto mining? Like, tell us what
happened as you jumped into the space. OK, what happened when I got into it?
I mean, initially, when they're talking about half a percent per day return for 600 days,
three times. In some ways, that put me off initially, because I'm thinking that's too
good to be true. That can't be right. Yeah. Right. Just I've seen a lot of scams in the past.
Yeah. So I just thought, OK, well, I wish I'm like, but it's probably a scam.
The fact that people are making money in it doesn't matter. A lot of scams and make money.
It was only second, and if it hadn't been for the second one,
I could see that, well, the second time I saw it,
I'm thinking, okay, I could see that these guys are for real,
this could possibly work.
But if the good Lord hadn't got me to speak
to this other guy that I had not spoken to
for over 10 years, and he spent 20 minutes
telling me how good it was,
and the fact that he'd been involved for over six months,
right, and it didn't take him long,
10 minutes a day, but it's working.
I wouldn't have bothered looking at it.
But once I started doing the research on it,
then I realised, no, these guys are for real.
In the end, I spent a lot of time going back
and looking at where these guys are coming from.
He was one of the original Bitcoin miners.
Okay, wow.
Bitcoin miners, right, and they had an Aussie TV news report,
it was on YouTube, where the lady standing out
in front of this Bitcoin mining operation in China,
and they talked about the fact that they'd been in Mongolia,
they'd been in Washington State, been in Iceland,
but now they're in China,
because that's where the cheapest power is.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And it was costing $10,000 a day.
Yeah, and I mean, in the space of mining crypto,
that really is one of your biggest expenses, right,
is you need power, and then obviously some facilities,
so that's pretty expensive, you know,
having overheads for geographical space,
and some buildings and some computers,
but electricity is the huge variable, isn't it?
That was a big one, right?
And they were talking back then,
and this was a 2016 video.
So it's not as if this guy's just come in
and said this would be a good way to, you know,
make some money from a network.
No, no, no.
In the end, the more I looked into it,
I realized, really, the money doesn't mean much
to this guy.
He is passionate about getting his blockchain technology
out to the world.
He saw it as, you know,
when the financial crash happened back in 2009,
and it wasn't long after that
where he got introduced to Bitcoin,
and he's smart enough to be able to go through,
read their white paper, and understand it.
That's when he just said,
this is going to be the future.
And at times, he'd been out there,
and, you know, he credited with saving Bitcoin.
You know, when it was back there, you know,
when the price had crashed.
And, you know, they're mining this stuff.
And what really, it took me a long while to understand,
you're looking at, okay, dollars in, dollars out,
how they're making their money, and all the rest of it.
We've never been in before
where they're actually making the value that they give us,
which we can then go and trade on an exchange.
Okay, so if we just break this down, right,
just to help people who are tracking with us.
So guys, I hope you're tracking with us nicely.
And I think probably the thing
that you want to first go,
okay, hey, this has got some interest in.
And I always do this with, you know,
when I'm looking at opportunities,
it's like, hey, what is the actual opportunity?
Because if you're going to do risk versus reward,
you can't understand the reward fully
if you don't actually understand what that is,
what the opportunity is.
So once you've clearly defined the opportunity,
you can work backwards and see if it's a level of risk
that you're happy with or not happy with,
and you can do your due diligence based on that.
You've got to understand the reward
before you go back and do your due diligence.
So you're saying that in this membership program
you're a part of, you can invest in there,
or you join, you acquire a membership.
You acquire a membership, right?
What we have to do is we have to take
some of our normal Aussie dollars in my case.
Yeah.
Right, it was about 450 at the time.
Set up an exchange, right, get an exchange, right?
A USDT, which is a cryptocurrency tied to the US dollar.
Yeah.
Right, and then with that,
I acquired a 300 USDT membership.
Yeah, fantastic.
My total exposure initially,
all I'm putting in is what, $450 a strike?
Yes, with the system that you are jumping on board with,
the system that you are jumping on board with
that we're talking about here,
and we're just going to get a little bit clearer
as we unpack this a little bit.
They are generating,
because now you're stepped out of that space, right?
You've gone from E to the S quadrant to the B quadrant,
and now you're in this I quadrant, the investor quadrant,
which under the premise, right, of the investor quadrant
is that your money is making money for you,
and you don't actually have to get involved.
It's fully automated.
Your money's making money for you.
So you're stepping into the space now,
on your journey,
where your money's starting to make money for you,
and the promise, the reward is triple
what you put in is what you get out.
Yeah, over 600 days.
Over 600 days.
which is what you were saying before
is it's half a percent a day.
Half a percent per day, right?
Yeah.
And then what also happens is you can actually do rebuys
and purchase a mini membership
when you've had 50 rewards for these HU hyper unit rewards.
Yeah.
And HU.
So anyway, that's how it all worked.
And so initially you just,
you know, you're talking about the risk.
Well, I started off with 300 US,
you know, the equivalent of 300 US dollars.
Yeah.
And that's a really good point
that I would just make for people
if they're thinking about investing in anything, right?
If you, whatever you're thinking about investing,
always make sure that you're comfortable
with the risk factor.
You know, you wanna be really conscious of the reward,
really conscious of the risk.
And then when you do put money into something,
make sure it's an amount that seems comfortable to you,
right?
So for you, for example, putting in $300,
you've minimized the risk
so that any action that you are taking in investing
or, you know, building finance or stewarding finance,
you always wanna make sure that you're stewarding well,
but also you're operating at a level
where the risk feels comfortable.
So at $300, you're not really at US,
you're not really feeling like it's that big a risk,
really at all.
It's not that big a risk.
I mean, I looked at it and said, okay,
well, I can get involved, right, at that level,
then I can start learning how it all works.
Because I haven't been in the industry for so long,
I know it's not until after you get in
and you start doing that you actually learn.
Yeah.
You get an idea of what's going on,
but it's only when you get in
and start going through the process on a day-to-day basis
until you really learn.
Totally.
So you jumped in on this opportunity,
you sunk a few hundred dollars in
and you start getting your payouts
and with the promise of tripling over 600 days,
what started to happen for you?
Did you start making returns and then also?
What happened then is I plugged into a lot of the webinars
and the training that they had
and that increased my understanding, my belief.
It turned out that there were people involved
that had been involved for six months or more that I knew.
Right?
And some of these guys I've known for 30 years.
And they're telling me it's all working well for them,
no way am I going to not believe them.
Right?
But then what also happened,
I spent a heap of time then looking into the founders.
Because in the end,
I want to know where the founders are coming from,
where their heart's at, what's their goal.
Yeah.
And when I did that,
I realised these guys are passionate
about this whole blockchain space
all of it.
Not just one little bit.
And the more I looked at these guys,
the more I realised they're passionate about blockchain.
They see this as a way to change the world.
Yeah.
In so many different areas.
Yeah, definitely.
And it was after that,
that's when I then made a decision
after I'd learned a lot more,
I did purchase additional membership.
Right?
Because you can get as many as you like.
Right?
You've got this option of doing rebuys as well.
That's with your reward.
But I purchased additional membership.
Yeah.
In the end, I'm looking at it and saying,
okay, when I set up that yacht charter,
I remember now back then,
I'd have been 29 or 30 or something.
And coming back from Melbourne one time
with a check in my pocket,
made written out to me from General Credit,
right, which is a finance company back then,
for $175,000, Aussie.
Yeah.
And it would have been back in 1980.
Wow.
And that was on a story.
We're going to use that to purchase two boats.
And I realised if I believed in something,
I was prepared to put in, right?
Whether that be time, energy, effort, whatever else.
Yeah.
And that's what happened.
It's been the most incredible ride I've ever seen.
And I'm still, you know, just getting my head around it.
I mean, this whole concept of the fact
that we're part of a membership
with digital gold miners,
and they give us digital gold as our reward.
Okay, so let me again kind of come at this
from another angle.
So try and help people understand.
So you get some,
being a part of this particular membership
that you're a part of,
that's generating you returns, right?
It's your money making money for you.
But to start that process,
you took $300, you know, worth of currency.
So it would have been 450 or whatever.
it was Australian and you purchased $300 worth of a particular crypto coin called USDT. Now that
coin guys a lot of people use that because it's a stable coin so it means its price is always
tethered to the gold sorry to the US dollar which you know as inflation hits that's not necessarily
a great thing for USDT but that's how it works as USDT is tied to the value of the American dollar
so you can buy that as a cryptocurrency and then do anything that you like with it really there or
you can even just exchange it back for just for cash if you want to do I mean it wouldn't make
sense because there's always usually a little fee but you can transfer between cash into crypto and
so you got your $300 worth of USDT and what did you what did you do with that? Yeah the term we
use is I then acquired a membership right I acquired a membership and having acquired that
a membership with that $300 USDT they then started the following day giving me this half a percent
per day. Return. Return right there was a reward every day I get I'm a member and I get membership
rewards. Yes. And to be a member and to get membership rewards is legal in every country
in the world. Yes. Yeah. Right and so it just stays in there the membership rewards they've
got a special unit they call it in there HUs. Yeah. But then when we want to go and withdraw
redeem and withdraw some of our rewards that's when we go through a process but then they give us
a token a crypto token which they're mining. Yeah. Which has got value on exchanges
and they give us enough of those so that we get you know
the one USDT basically for each of the each of the HUs. Okay. When we go to travel so it's
unbelievable. Beautiful. But the thing that got me is they're not giving you the USDT.
Okay this is this is really important I think this is really important for people to grasp like how
can people give you a return of you know 300 over 600 days how does that work and there's all
there's so many amazing systems so these guys and I think where you're going with this right now is
talking about crypto mining so do you just want to just touch on us for a little bit of just a
little bit more of an overview of crypto mining and then we'll zoom in for how it works in this
particular setup. Basically crypto mining people have got big computers and electricity and the
computers are solving some sort of problem in there turns you have something on a blockchain whatever
that is right and you can then trade it on exchanges and it's got value I mean what happened
is I in the end I realized I saw an article on the ABC and I'd known it beforehand but it's like the
reserve bank over here they talked about the reserve bank here in Australia when the COVID hit
and this is an ABC news article the fact that by changing a few figures on a computer screen
they created another 2 billion dollars. Wow. Just like that. Just 2 billion? 2 billion this was you
don't want to say it's back in March. Yeah. You know 2020 whenever it was. Yeah. Right. Absolutely.
This is a big deal. This is a big deal right now. Yeah fiat currency is created with computers and
electricity. Cryptocurrency is created with computers and electricity. Absolutely but
governments around the world in the last couple of years have been printing trillions of dollars
which is actually I mean you can guarantee when governments just just randomly and you know kind
of willingly print money and print trillions of dollars you can guarantee that that's going to
have a whiplash of inflation which we are already seeing inflation hitting hard. Yeah and see Benji
we keep thinking about them printing dollars. Yeah. That's old school because we're still
thinking of cash. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. These days it's not. Yeah. They're not printing anything they're
just changing a few figures on a computer screen. Yeah. Crazy right. There's no more stuff coming out of
the mint where they're making this stuff. Yeah. It's just things on a computer screen. Yeah.
Exactly. You know when you realize that you realize how whole fiat currency is based on
computers you know figures on a computer screen these days. Sure they're printing a little bit
but that's next to nothing. Yeah. The overall scheme of things right and this cryptocurrency
is exactly the same. So yeah I mean it's similar in a sense that you can actually create it like
you can create
crypto, you can build crypto, you can mine crypto. Yeah. And so tell us like some of the like,
some of the backstory of these guys. I mean, you've covered that already just lightly, but
the people that are part of this membership club that run it, they are some of the biggest
crypto miners in the world, right? Historically, that's where they've been, apparently.
I mean, they're probably quite possibly being overtaken now as a lot of people are jumping in
on it, but they've had, they've been in that space for a long time. Yeah. And there's, yeah.
But, you know, that's where you just need to take the time to do the due diligence,
right, to understand it. And, you know, I mean, I can sketch it out on a piece of paper, you know,
30 seconds, really, and show people how it works. But before they put any money in, I want them to
go through and watch a series of videos. So they get an understanding where these guys are at,
where they're coming from. Yeah, totally. And understand exactly what's going on. I don't want
people, you know, throwing a whole heap of money in here just because I think it's a good idea.
Yeah, totally. I want them to go and do their own due diligence. Absolutely. So you,
what happened for you after you put your first, oh, I've got, I've got another couple of questions
where I get it. This is good. So yeah, you put a few hundred bucks in, you started getting in
the game. At what point did you realize the power of the fact that they were mining this currency?
When did you realize that? What happened for you that you realized, oh, the genius of these people
mining cryptocurrency? See, I didn't really realize that for the first few months. Yeah.
Right. Because most of the presentations I was watching and that sort of stuff,
I talk about these guys and billionaires, they can afford it. They're building a community,
blah, blah, blah. Right. But what had happened, I've done some withdrawals.
And what I realized when I was doing the withdrawals, not initially, you're just doing
it in there. I get my USDT, you know, one for one sort of trick by running it through this exchange.
But then a couple of months after I'd been doing that, all of a sudden I realized, man,
they're not having to give me many of this token that they're producing, that they're mining,
as they were two months ago, in fact, less than half. Yeah. And so I'm thinking, oh man,
he's just saving on his electricity cost. And then it hit me.
Once he's got it set up, that's about his only cost. Yeah. And I'm walking around and I think,
I can't believe this. You know, so you go through and you draw it. And in every presentation,
it had mentioned the fact that they give us a token that they produce. Yeah. But the emphasis
in their presentation is billionaires, they can afford it. And to be honest, it's only recently
that a lot of the other guys have woken up because I woke up back in September, October last year.
But it's only recently the other guys have woken up and now their emphasis on the presentations
is the fact that these guys are just mining this stuff. And this is a really good point,
you know, in any businesses, you've got to understand where your leverage is. Like,
what is it that's giving you leverage? Is it your capital that's giving you leverage? Is
that your particular skill set that's giving you leverage? Is that your particular product that's
giving you leverage? What is it that gives you leverage? Because your leverage determines the
real power and determines your scalability in your business. So with these guys, like having
crypto mining as a core in their business model, that's where the leverage of the system comes
from, right? Yeah, well, see, they already had this token out there. It was already being traded
on exchanges prior to them setting up the membership. And just that single point there,
right, guys, so when it comes to cryptocurrencies, people can create cryptocurrencies, but just like
you said before, people can create a cryptocurrency, but just because they've got a cryptocurrency,
it's not necessarily got any value. The value is determined by how much people are willing to pay
for it, you know, like value is, you know, a currency gets its value from actually our agreement
with that, you know, like, if all of a sudden, I decide that I don't value New Zealand dollars,
as much as I value other things, then the price in New Zealand dollars goes up and, you know,
might be a good price in a cryptocurrency. But the point is that a currency, a cryptocurrency,
it's that or any currency comes from mutual agreement, it comes from a whole collective,
a whole community of people ascribing value to something. So if, when, what happens when
a cryptocurrency goes on to an exchange is that there, it gets ascribed value. And so that's a
huge thing. If you're fresh to the crypto space, if a cryptocurrency isn't yet on an exchange,
it's kind of in this infancy space, where you can't actually change it for anything else,
there's no ascribed value to, you know, by a vast community. But what you're talking about is
and so when a cryptocurrency does hit an exchange that's a huge leverage point. So if you've got an
exchange where your cryptocurrency can be exchanged and you've got the capacity to mine cryptocurrency
that is like you're talking about it's a it's digital gold you can mine this crypto then you
can take it to the exchange and you can trade it for cash just like and just like when they were
gold mining right like they would mine gold and they would take it to an exchange it's exactly
the same it doesn't change right and it's same with forex trading foreign exchange trading right
you got traders out there yeah they've got a perceived value right yeah and that's why you
know in our case the Aussie dollar goes up and down compared with the US and the Europe they're
normally give it yeah perceived value ascribed value yeah so here you are in your particular
setup and we'll kind of bring this to a close in a minute now but um you've got a system where
you buy membership into a community which is actually a mining community at the head
as a massive part of the community right yeah well that we get that blockchain as well right
don't get me wrong that's all part and parcel of it i know a lot more now than i did you know
seven months ago eight months ago yeah but uh but that's it we we acquire a membership
yeah we get educated and we get daily rewards and with those daily rewards
once it gets to you know 58 you a certain amount then we can actually use that within the system
don't have to go and trade it or anything but within the system to purchase another
you know to acquire another mini membership yeah and i call them rebonds yeah but i promise you
when you understand it rebonds are the ninth wonder of the world yeah and the ninth wonder
of the world like another way of thinking about rebonds in this context is compounding
value and this is a huge element of the velocity of money is to generate a dynamic of compounding
your returns or compounding your money so i mean you could actually take that
you know that uh reward and go and cash it in on exchange right
oh yeah yeah yeah so once you're in this crypto mining community that you're in you can do that
you get rewards which they are mining so they're mining this crypto they're mining they give you
the rewards you can cash it in or you can compound it now this uh this is what the elite understand
about money and this is why the elite have most of the money you know that's why they're called
the elite it's actually really revolves around one like this is one of the key elements of it
is that they don't eat their seed in a sense you like they they make sure that their money
produces a return and then that return multiplies and compounds and multiplies and compounds before
they ever even spend a dollar out of it so what that does just ensures that they have an ever
expanding ever increasing increasing treasury or capital and this is something that i would love
you to understand so much is create an ever increasing treasury in your world that will never
get smaller but will only ever multiply and so this is the beauty about the system that you've
got is it has massive leverage it's attached to one of the genius uh operations in the world right
now which is crypto mining which produces leverage on a on a cryptocurrency that's connected to
exchange so you can take that and you can and you can exchange it for any type of you know usdt
and then any other coin or currency that you want in the world uh which is genius or you can also
have the power of compounding it which then if you compound that let me just ask you this if you for
example if you compound your returns does it return to you more than just the 300 over 600 days
unpack that space yeah revise the ninth wonder of the world if compound interest is considered
the ape i promise you rebuys at the night what we are doing is not compound okay it's
beyond compound yeah okay because if you don't log in and physically do something so it's not
automated every day you gotta log in right whereas normally out there in the iQuadrant investment
world right you have a compound interest where you put money in you don't have to do anything
and it just grows that does not happen here okay we get a daily reward we want to make that big
distinction yeah that's good right it is not compounding yeah okay that's good to know but
i promise you if compounding is the eighth wonder of the world
revise at the night.
Okay, I love it, I love it.
But that's where you've got to sit down and look at it
and actually work it through.
And that's where my background on computer programs,
cashflow, budget, spreadsheets, and all that sort of stuff.
When I first put it together and started looking
at what happened to you, you know,
you put a certain amount in and you started doing,
you know, revise whenever you could.
I mean, I spent a day and a half doing it.
Yeah.
If someone wanted to ask me, you know,
and the only reason I did it
is someone asked me the question.
What had happened if I put, you know, 10K in?
I said, well, I don't know.
But I know you're going to get, you know,
revise enough to do a rebuy every day from day one.
And I'd talk about that.
He said, well, what's going to happen?
I said, I don't know, but I'll work it out.
So I spent a day and a half on a spreadsheet.
When I finally put it all together,
over 600 days, because I wanted to see what would happen
over 600 days, hit the button.
And my first response was, oh no, I've made a mistake.
I could not comprehend it.
Yeah.
I got a pretty good head to feet,
but I could not comprehend what was going to happen.
So I went back and then I realized
I haven't made a mistake.
This is actually what's going to happen.
Yeah.
Just absolutely mind blowing.
But, and it's happening.
We can see it.
Cause we got so many people out there and, you know,
I'm talking about what you were mentioning before,
completely different mindsets in each of the quadrants
from the E to the S's to the B's and the I's.
100%.
Yeah.
So, you know, this is one of the things that I've realized,
I've been good in the S quadrant, good in the B quadrant,
but now I've got to start thinking more in the S quadrant.
The I quadrant.
The I quadrant, right?
And so what's happened there is we've got a lot of people
that have looked at it and said, okay,
well, what if I preserve, you know,
pull out, do rebuys with 50%,
withdraw the other rebuy, the other rewards 50% each month.
Yeah.
And when they've looked at that, mind blowing.
It is doing exactly what you wanted before,
where you said you're preserving your seed, right?
In fact, it's increasing and the crop you're harvesting
each month is also increased.
Yeah.
Mind blowing.
Fantastic.
Hey, well, thank you so much for this.
I think I've got a couple more.
I better give you, I better drop a couple more questions.
So what happened for you?
You dropped 300 initially, and then after you saw this,
did that, and you realized the power of your rebuys
and the power of your compounding returns,
what did you, what was your response?
Did you say, hey, actually,
I want to be more a part of this community
or what did you do?
Yeah, well, I started sharing it with people.
That was the first thing, right?
When I, you know, gone through it and I believed,
you know, 100%, then I started sharing it, right?
And what happens when you share it,
you can accelerate the rate
at which they give you the rewards.
So you don't get any more, but they accelerate it,
which means you can then go and do these rebuys quicker.
And so instead of getting half a percent per day,
you get a much higher percentage.
Yeah.
And then the other thing I did was I ended up,
you know, personally acquiring much larger memberships.
Yeah.
You know, at different times,
and, you know, my wife's done the same thing
and, you know, she just can't believe it.
But, you know, it's all a happening thing, you know?
It's mind-blowing.
I've been lucky enough to have been very successful
in this industry for years, really.
We've never seen anything like this.
Yeah.
Never before.
And, you know, as a networker,
what I love is the fact that everybody wins, everybody.
No one loses.
Yeah.
Right?
They're all gonna get a benefit at least three times.
But if they're prepared to, you know,
log in and do these rebuys,
well then it's again and again and again.
And that's even 100% passive without introducing anyone.
Yeah.
Right?
And then once they do that,
then if they start introducing people,
well then that just accelerates the whole thing.
So we've never seen anything like it.
And what's happening now is because more people,
you know, this is what happened for me.
Initially they were talking about, you know,
getting 30 million people.
But initially we're thinking, okay,
well, how can they afford to do that?
Yeah.
And then when the penny finally drops,
that their only cost is the electricity and the computers.
I got a CEO, compliance department.
That's about it.
That's it.
Yeah.
That's the power of automation, eh?
and systems it's unbelievable and you know and running there that's it and seeing the other
thing to look at is as the value of the token that they give us increases of course they're
the ones holding the majority so guess what's happening to their value of their assets did
they help absolutely absolutely limited how many like a month yeah and i think this is i mean this
is the world of the investors and i think it's been really cool just talking through that whole
quadrant we'll finish with this i'll bring that um i'll bring that quadrant up again as a as a
finish for us um and then yeah so guys this is the cash flow quadrant that we were talking about
i'm going to share my screen um but this really i think is actually quite beautiful
trevor the journey that you've been on you know um you really weren't so much in the employee
space for that long but you were definitely in the self-employed we owned a job and you
you said at least 11 years you're in that space right yeah yeah and that was only numerous jobs
but they're all in this quadrant they're all this quadrant where i was a man magic yeah and
then you shifted and again that guys the thing that's that's key here is that before you shift
one of these quadrants you have to shift mindsets that's the key right so you shift mindsets you grow
you learn then it enables you to go become a business owner and now you can actually skip
this b1 you don't even have to even live in that b1 you can live here and that you can go straight
from self-employed or employee straight to investor if you can get some cash and it doesn't
have to be what trevor's doing it can be anything but this is where you want to make the transition
to um you can be an employee uh that is as an investor and then you can do really well i actually
know a guy you know in tiano where i used to live and i could tell this guy he just worked at the
petrol station right but he was always really happy and i could just tell he had abundance
mindsets i was like dude what else have you got going on because i know that you're not just
working this uh you know this job he didn't need to work in the job because he actually told me oh
he was from ireland and he'd invested in the um an airport there years ago and the airport was
like his investments from the airport they were crushing it you know like he was driving
new trucks and all sorts of things and he just worked the uh at the petrol station really
just because he enjoyed hanging around people uh but it's this so you can go from employee to
investor or whatever as soon as you can get some capital um you have that capacity so i think that
guys this has been just fantastic um having trevor here and sharing his journey all the way from
floppy disks through to the blockchain trevor has uh been riding that train which is very cool
um so thank you so much for that and for anyone who's interested in you know learning more about
the the mining community that trevor's a part of we've got a real simple system so again here this
is what raising royalty does is we create automated systems so what you can do is there's a link in
the description of this video if you want to actually book a call in with our raising royalty
team see we do automated systems that's what we love you can book a call with our team you can
book in there and you can actually um let me stop this share uh i'll say as well that this is
available everywhere in the world which is really cool because not all these opportunities are
you can book in a call with one of our team and you can hear more about that specifically
and they can just kind of break this opportunity down for you if you want to know some of the nuts
and bolts another thing that's really great is trevor's going to be coming back for us in the 40
day mentorship program so if you're interested in the 40 day mentorship program we do have a good
deal uh on that and there are links in the description of this video if you want to secure
your space on that and it'll be great to have trevor come back talk more investing mindsets
talk more about this um opportunity um but trevor thank you so much it's been a real honor and a
delight my pleasure benji i've been happy thank you maybe my last maybe my last question
is uh oh do i have a couple more i've definitely got one you i heard you telling me a story a
little while ago about you went out to dinner and you talked to someone about whether or not they'd
been you know had anything to do with crypto before and they said uh no i don't know anything
about it and you had an interesting response do you remember the story you did uh you were
telling me about how then your response to him was how he just got paid see that that's
when it started to become real for me
was when I actually set up through one of the exchanges
a credit card, which is crypto-based, mastercard.
So it's accepted anywhere in the world
that mastercard's accepted.
Yeah.
And what I've done is I've taken some of my rewards,
right, converted it, you know, to the USDT,
sent it to this card and it's on my card.
And so then I had it all set up on my phone.
Yeah.
And I've never had a credit card on a phone before.
I'd seen lots of people using it, right?
And so what happened is I got it all set up
and then in the end, you can use it anywhere.
So I went out with my, you know, brother-in-law,
we got a big feed of coral trout and prawns
and I paid for it with the rewards, basically.
Just waved your phone.
I waved it over here.
And that's when it became real to me.
All of a sudden I realised, man,
I really have got this money-making machine on my computer,
which I can then use my phone to buy coral trout
and the most delicious prawns I've ever had.
Yeah.
That's when it became real, right?
Because otherwise, you know, I'm sure I'd done a withdrawal,
but that's all just figures on a computer screen still.
Yeah.
You know, you'd go into your bank account, blah, blah,
but you'd never seen anything.
Yeah, yeah.
And then you get to eat the prawns and the coral trout.
Come on.
That's when it became real.
And it's just a whole new world out there.
Yeah.
You know, now I've actually got a physical card
for the same system, right?
Yeah.
And it only arrived yesterday.
That's very cool.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So it's real.
I mean, it's real.
That's what I'm saying to you.
It's real.
You know, you put the rewards in, daily rewards,
you get them out.
In the end, you can use it to do whatever you like.
Beautiful.
And anything that you just share as a closing thought
with the guys that you think would be just great,
great for people to know about?
Yeah, look, it's so exciting
that we ended up with that cashflow quadrant.
Yeah.
Because I promise you, all of life is a mindset.
Yeah.
We all have ups and downs,
but each of the quadrants is a different mindset.
Yeah.
Right?
And it definitely is a case of Romans 12 to,
be transformed by the renewing of your mind.
Yeah.
And so you can get into this, put money in,
but never change the mindset.
That's why it's so important to plug into the system,
the videos, the training sessions we have.
That's not just to learn, but that's to change the mindset.
Mm-hmm.
That's what happens.
Because otherwise, and we see it happen.
You get in there, you start getting your rewards every day,
and it's all building up, building up, building up,
but then you never bother talking to anybody.
Yeah.
And so you can go from the E quadrant
by setting up a little business, network business,
use the systems that we have in place,
so that you can go from the S to the B.
Yeah.
And then with the reward going in and becoming an I.
Yeah.
And you go through that whole thing.
Yeah.
But you can actually do it all.
And to maximize your returns, you're gonna do it all.
100%.
And I think-
Initially, you've got to be the magic,
but then you use the system.
I think that's something that with raising royalty,
we really want to help people understand
is that royalty have investor mindsets.
There's nowhere in the world where you'll see royalty
that don't have investor mindsets,
because the only way to disciple nations
is to understand the velocity of money
and to understand how to leverage and scalability
and how to leverage money to actually multiply itself.
And it's those investor mindsets that-
I mean, yeah, it's those investor mindsets
that really do disciple nations.
And so, yeah, it's been an honor having you with us, Trevor,
and such a really a unique thing as well,
just to be able to talk about floppy disks
and blockchain and the same conversation
and a real inspiration, I think,
to a lot of our older people in the community
to see how well you've done in all those transitions.
So thank you so much.
Would you pray for us?
And then we'll sign off for the session.
Well, Lord, I just want to thank you for a wonderful session.
And you certainly guided us.
I just hope that the words we've shared
have been able to hit people out there
that you want to hear this message, Lord,
just as you wanted me to hear the message.
You send extra people to show it to me again and again.
But Lord, I just ask that you open the hearts and the minds
to everybody that's been listening today.
And thank you for Benji and raising royalty
and all the work they're doing, Lord,
because it is absolutely phenomenal.
And it's such a pleasure to be,
and an honor to be a part of this program.
Amen.
Thank you so much, Trevor, and we'll see you in the mentorship program, which is going
to be very exciting.
So bless you and we'll catch you soon, guys.
We'll see you in the next session.
See ya.
Bye.