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Hey fam, what an honor and a delight to be here with Trevor Chatham all the way from Australia

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and once again great to be with all of you beautiful people. So welcome, this is going

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to be an exciting session, we're going to be talking about crypto mining and some other

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very exciting things. So great to have everyone with us and Trevor how are you doing today sir?

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I'm doing well thanks Benji, I'm very excited to be here with you and with everybody on the call.

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Fantastic, hey well it would be great if you want to pray for us to kick off the session

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and then we're going to jump into it and we've got a whole bunch of, I'm really excited for what

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we're going to learn today in this session and then also what we're going to, yeah just what

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we're going to cover about crypto mining in this whole space, it's going to be pretty exciting and

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excited to hear a bunch of your journey around being a serial entrepreneur which I think everyone's

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going to love your stories but if you can take it away for us in a prayer that will be fantastic.

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Dear Lord, I just ask you that you open everybody's ears today and our eyes and their hearts Lord to

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what we've got to share and Lord I just ask you that you give me the words that you want these

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people to hear today and Lord this is an unbelievable opportunity I know it was if it wasn't for you

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Lord we wouldn't be here today you certainly got my attention I'll give you a few people to talk

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to me because I missed it initially went clean over my head but I got no doubt that we're here

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because of you and we just ask this in Jesus name, amen. Amen, well thank you Trevor, if you haven't

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met Trevor before everyone say hi Trevor, it is a real honor to be with Trevor who is a serial

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entrepreneur, set up multiple businesses, seven figures in sales and all sorts of things and

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he's going to be uncovering something very exciting today a new opportunity that he is loving

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but I just thought hey we'll start with a bit of your story and people can get to know you a little

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and connect with you so yeah everyone if you haven't said hello yet say hello and we really

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are honored to have you with us so Trevor when did here's my first question for you like when

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did you kind of come to this realization that you'd love to get into business because not

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every single person has that mindset or realization that they'd like to get into business but when did

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the I guess the penny drop for you in a sense you decided hey I think I need to get into the

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space of running my own business well what happened is I did veterinary science at university

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my dad was a vet my grandfather was a vet so I was coming for a long range of vets and so I

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brought up in a professional type household I guess but what happened when I was at university

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I realized that large animal vet science was only a temporary occupation and I could see what was

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happening with dad's health I could see what was happening the health of all the other large animal

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vets we were doing prac work with during the holidays and so on and I remember saying to other

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students at 10 years is a large animal veterinarian long enough and they're saying to me what do you

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mean I said well look around guys I said if we keep doing what these other guys are doing I think

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health-wise we're going to end up like them and what was what did it look like what was

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happening for them their health was packing up by the time they hit you know 60 and you know and

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back then I was only you know early 20s but I could see what was happening in my dad's health

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packed up totally at the age of 54 and so you know I could see his health going downhill but I can

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also see the others and I didn't realize it at the time but it's just large animal practice is fairly

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stressful and so there's a lot of stress in that and I didn't realize what was going on but I could

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just see what was happening and so don't get me wrong I love being a veterinarian and love working

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there doing all the things but I realized that I had to find something else and so I end up you

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know doing farm consultancy work uh helping guys with cash flow budget spreadsheets and all that

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sort of stuff also uh ended up you know writing computer programs uh set up a yacht charter

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company australian beer boat charters up in the mid-sundays hang on hang on so let's just slow

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this down a little bit because there's a lot happening here so were you still we're still

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working as a vet at the same time or did you transition yeah no I was still working as a vet

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okay at the same time right okay great so you and how old are you at this point

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how old would I have been at that point well uh gee when I set the yacht charter company up

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uh yeah I was 29 29 okay so you you graduated you became a vet and as a vet were you just working a

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like a nine to

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five type role, like what was your role in the vet world?

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Well, in large general practice,

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I mean, you're running your own show.

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Someone's got to be on call 24 seven, right?

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And so, you know, we did, you know,

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initially with my dad and I,

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and then what happened is we had, you know,

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our assistants and that sort of stuff,

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but you were still on call a lot of the time.

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Okay, so it's basically a family business

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that you're running, even as a vet though.

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Oh yeah, definitely running a business as a veterinarian.

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No doubt about that, you know,

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staff and, you know, ladies to help in the office

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and, you know, they double up as nurses

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and that sort of stuff in a country practice.

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Yeah, definitely.

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But yeah, that's what we were doing, right?

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And then what happened is we got involved

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with the farm management side of things

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and realised that, you know, an actual fact,

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we got to feed the animals, feed the livestock,

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the cows better.

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And so we started looking at that sort of thing

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and we're doing that.

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And then ended up from there going into helping the guys

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doing cashflow budgets and ended up writing a programme

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for the National Bank at one stage

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that they could use to help farmers

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with their cashflow budgets.

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And then, because I knew that long-term vet science

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wasn't it.

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You know, I mean, if you're not sure where you're headed,

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just have a look at the people

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that are doing what you're doing today

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because I've been doing for an extra 10, 20, 50 years.

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Yeah, that's a good point.

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Then maybe guys just want to encourage you

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to actually just pause just for a moment

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and have a think about that.

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Whatever you're doing right now,

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what does it look like for the people who are doing that,

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who have got 10 years on you or 20 years on you?

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Yeah, because that can be a really good indication

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of exactly where you're headed.

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And you just got to ask yourself,

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hey, do I love that?

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Do I not love that?

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Do I want that or don't I?

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Because if you're in that luxurious place right now

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of being able to make an adjustment right now,

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that's a pretty precious opportunity

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that you don't want to throw away.

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So, you know, it's like a bullet.

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You know, time, and you'll probably witness this,

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how long does it feel since you were 29, Trevor?

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Well, I'm just in 70, mate, right?

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Yeah, but how long ago does it feel that you were 29?

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Does that feel like a long time ago or?

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Oh, I still feel young at heart, right?

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I'm still a kid at heart, right?

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And so it doesn't feel that long, right?

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But it is 41 years when you actually add it up

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with your fingers and start measuring it out.

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But I can't believe that.

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Yeah, I mean, time goes like a bullet.

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Oh, yeah.

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You know, I mean, it's just unbelievable.

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And time just flies.

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But luckily, you know, I'm still young at heart,

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still a kid at heart.

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Yeah, absolutely.

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So if you're younger than 70,

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then you just want to consider the fact that time flies,

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time's like a bullet,

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and you have the luxury now

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of setting the trajectory of your life,

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just like a bullet comes out of a gun,

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you have the luxury of seeing that trajectory.

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So just check and see, you know,

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if the people who are 10 or 20 years ahead of you,

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if that's where you want to go, then fantastic.

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Stay right on that same track.

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But if you want to make a change,

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if that's not where you want to actually end up,

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if you want something different for your life,

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then you better change the trajectory in a hurry.

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So on that, like,

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so you set up your yacht charter business at 29.

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And how long after that before you decided,

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okay, I'm done on the vet life,

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and you made a big transition?

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Well, as it turned out,

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I ended up doing 11 years in practice.

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When I was at university, I'd said 10.

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But what happened?

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I set up the yacht charter company,

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and, you know, doing the farm consultancy work

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and computer programming,

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but then I got introduced to the network marketing industry.

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I'd never heard of it before,

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never seen anything like it.

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And I was actually at the boat show in Melbourne,

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July, 1985.

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Got talking to a lady there,

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she introduced me to her husband.

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You got to understand this,

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his daytime job was throwing rubbish

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on the back of a truck.

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He was a garber.

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He'd been an alcoholic at the age of 14,

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full-on Christian guy,

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and totally reformed.

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But he changed my life.

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That one meeting changed my life totally.

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I promise you that.

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Well, I'm just thinking about this

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contextually around my life.

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I was two years old.

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I was, I'm an 83 baby.

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So I was two years old and there you are in a meeting.

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Where was your meeting again?

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Well, I met him at the boat show

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because I was down there promoting the yacht charter company.

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Right, so we had a stand at the show

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and an amazing story.

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I've been at a computer programming show

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for veterinarians a week before in Sydney

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and I'd driven down overnight, only had four hours sleep.

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There all day promoting a yacht charter.

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Single girl comes up.

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I didn't even bother to stand up

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because single girls don't charter yachts.

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Right, but anyway, she gave me this big smile

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and asked me if I was enjoying the show.

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I said, well, to be honest, I'm bored stupid.

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And she said, what do you mean?

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I said, well, here I am all day

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selling the virtues of a yacht charter in Queensland.

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I said, I've only had four hours sleep.

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I've just been up in, you know,

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last week I was up there talking about computers.

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And she said, well, what are you doing

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selling both computers and yacht charters?

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I said, well, basically I'm a veterinarian.

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Well, that just makes perfect sense.

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Right?

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And then immediately she said,

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you should talk to my husband.

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He's into networking.

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And this is 1985.

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I said, fantastic.

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I said, what sort of computers?

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You got to understand Benji,

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this is when they were first two up in the one room

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with a wire.

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And that was high tech.

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Right?

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We didn't do that.

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We just standalone computers.

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No way you can hook them together.

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Pull the floppy disk out, put it into the other one.

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If you want to join them.

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Yes, yes.

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This is a blast from the past Trevor.

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You're taking us all way back.

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I mean, we're talking blockchain stuff

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and crypto in this session.

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But you're still, you're from the age

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where floppy disks,

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floppy disks.

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That was a good mouth.

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What do you call?

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That came out wrong, but it was beautiful.

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So floppy disks.

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You're from the era when floppy disks

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were high tech, brand new revolutionary stuff.

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So Ben, you have, you are spanning,

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you are spanning some massive technological advance

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in your days.

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Yeah mate.

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You know, when you look at it,

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I went back in those days, no mobile phones.

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You know, one of my dreams was to get a fax machine.

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That was one of my goals.

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I had written it down at the time.

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But, so what happened?

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In the end, I caught up with Steve

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and he showed me his networking concept

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a couple of days later.

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Loaded me up with half a dozen audio cassette tapes.

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That's also dating me.

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Yeah.

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By the time I'd driven,

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by the time I'd driven home,

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listening to these cassette tapes,

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I was so fired up and excited.

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I'd never heard anything like this.

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I mean, all of a sudden I realized this networking

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was a matter of teaching people to teach people to teach.

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It was all geometric progressions.

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Like, did we get five?

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We get 525, 125, 625, 3025, and so on, right?

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This blew my mind.

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Because I was used to doing the work, getting paid.

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Yeah, yeah.

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If I wasn't doing the work, I wasn't getting paid.

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And see, that's a real big concept

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that we really want to help people connect with

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in this Kingdom Business Summit,

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is it's a dramatic mindset shift.

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Even if you own your own business,

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in a sense, like, the business that you owned

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was more like, I would say it was more like

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you owned a job as a veterinarian

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than owning a business that was automated, right?

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Because you were still in that place.

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Even though you owned the business as a family business,

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if you didn't work, you didn't get paid, right?

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Not only that, mate, I had 400 bosses.

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If they rang me, I had to get up and go.

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Yeah.

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I couldn't say, oh, I'm tired, I just want to sleep in.

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They've got a cow out there calving or whatever.

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I've got to get up in the middle of the night and go.

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Yeah.

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So-

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That's what running that sort of business is like.

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Yeah.

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Totally.

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And so this is just a mindset shift

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that I really want to help you guys

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really grapple with over this time.

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It's a big transition, but it's a transition

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from trading time for value.

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So you can trade time for value, or you can trade,

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sorry, time for value.

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You can trade time for money,

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or you can trade value for money,

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or you can have your money make money for you.

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And those are all really different mindsets and spaces.

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So you really did live for a good chunk of your life

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in that trading time for money space.

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Oh, definitely.

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Right.

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That's where I was at, right?

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I'm in Kiyosaki, Robert Kiyosaki

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in a book called Cashflow Quadrant.

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Yeah.

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That's exactly what I'm thinking about.

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Okay.

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He talks about the E's, employees, S's,

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small business operators or self-employed professionals.

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And his definition of an S is you've got to be there, right?

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Whereas then he's got on the other side of the quadrant.

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And so that's active income on the left-hand side.

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But then on the right-hand side,

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he talks about a business owner, right?

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And the investors, and the business owner

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by Kiyosaki's definition.

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he can take 12 months out of the business

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and it'll still run successfully without him.

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But the reason he can do that is he's got systems.

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Yes, absolutely, absolutely.

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It makes all the difference.

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Yeah.

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And so what happened is, you know, I'd been an S.

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Everything I was doing was the S quadrant.

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Yes.

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And then all of a sudden I realized,

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man, there's a whole new life out there.

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I'm just pulling that diagram up actually

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because it's a really good diagram.

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I've just grabbed it online.

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Anyone can find it.

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Just look for Cashflow Quadrant.

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But this is it here.

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Oh, it's taking me some random website.

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Let me do this for you quickly.

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Right, I'll do this and then we can just pull it up for you.

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All sorts of goodies on the desktop here

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that are about to get a good clear out.

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So this is the Cashflow Quadrant.

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So if you want to just walk us through that.

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Well, see, that's perfect, mate, right?

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See what happens?

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He talks about the fact that you've got 95% of the people

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live on the left-hand side of the quadrant.

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Either employees, they have a job, right?

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Or self-employed or small business operators,

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where basically you own the job.

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Yeah.

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Right, and that's where I was.

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As I mentioned before, I had 400 bosses.

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Yeah.

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And they all earned the job.

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Yeah.

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But that's active income

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on the left-hand side of the quadrant.

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Yes.

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Whereas what he talks about,

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and that's where you've got 95% of the population

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live on that left-hand side.

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Yeah.

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And then on the right-hand side,

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you've got the business owner, where you own a system.

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This is exactly what he talks about, right?

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And what I've found over the years,

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a lot of people in the S quadrant,

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they've got no idea that the guys in the B quadrant

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think totally differently.

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That's it, mate.

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This is the only thing that's gonna determine

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whether or not you stay in any of these quadrants

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is all about mindset, isn't it?

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To me, the most important thing that Kiyosaki talks about

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is the fact that the people in each of the quadrants

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don't just make their money in different ways,

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but they think totally differently.

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Yes.

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Right?

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And so what happens,

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then you've got the guys down here in the investors,

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well, they've got their money working for them.

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Yeah.

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And when I look back on my life,

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I've had very little time in the E quadrant,

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only when I was a student, really a few times,

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but the rest, I've been in the S,

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and then for the last 30 plus years, the B quadrant.

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Yeah.

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But it's a total shift going from the S to the B quadrant.

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See, the guys in the S quadrant,

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quite often they're proud of the fact

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that they can do it better than anybody else.

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Yeah.

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The B quadrant guys,

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they don't care if other people can do it better than they.

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They want that to happen.

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They just want to set up systems

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so they don't have to do it.

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Yeah.

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And I mean, this is something that raising royalty

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is really built on the dynamic

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of creating automated systems.

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That's what we pour so much of our time

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into, not if it just goes into the space

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of helping people create automation

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so that they can easily step into the space

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of that B space of, you know, being a business owner,

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you own a system, you have leverage.

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It's totally different.

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Now, where we're going right now

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is you kind of spend a bunch of time in that business owner,

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you set up businesses, you did some network marketing,

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you made seven figures in sales,

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actually had a really cool year one year as well.

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Why don't you tell us about the year where you,

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this is I think what makes,

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what really changes is you go from S,

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the self-employed to the business owner,

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lifestyle changes dramatically,

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the possibilities start opening up like crazy.

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Yeah.

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Well, see, one of the actual fact happens,

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Benji, I think it's important to mention this too,

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is it's got to happen in your mind first

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before it's going to happen in reality.

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Oh, so good.

427
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Right?

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And this is just what's got to happen.

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And so what happened?

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I was coming into this networking concept.

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If I just tell you my story.

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Yeah.

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And got involved with that,

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got plugged into an absolutely brilliant line of teaching

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and sponsorship that I was in,

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but it changed my thinking totally.

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And so I got out there and made some small improvements

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to the system that they had just in the presentation,

439
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but then when it meant we grew fast

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than anybody else in that game had,

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even though it had been going 14 years

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when I got involved in Australia.

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So it wasn't new, but it had a proven track record.

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I'd much prefer to have something

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with a proven track record

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where other people have been successful.

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And so we got in there and,

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just so you understand where I'm coming from.

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basically, ambitiously lazy.

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Yeah.

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You know what I mean?

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I don't mind the idea of working hard

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if I know it's only temporary.

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I'm not gonna have the rewards coming in forever.

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Yes.

456
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For a long, long time, right?

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And then you can't sit back.

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You see, what happened is I'd always had this goal

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or dream to live in Queensland somewhere.

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And initially, just so I understand,

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I mean, if you're sitting there looking at this today,

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what you gotta have is a broad,

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inspirational vision of the future.

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And a sense of discontent with the present.

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Yeah.

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Otherwise, you're not gonna change.

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Yeah.

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So, so powerful.

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And initially, what I did was I said,

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in five years' time,

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this is after I'd already built a successful business

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in the networking industry.

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But I said, in five years' time,

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I'll live in either Northern New South Wales

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or Southern Queensland

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and have a 40-foot catamaran tied up at the back door.

477
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Right?

478
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So anyway, that's as specific as it was initially.

479
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I was living in Victoria,

480
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still living in country Victoria,

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Kahuna at the time.

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But what happened?

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We went out there and over the next five years,

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all of that came about.

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That's beautiful.

486
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We ended up living on the canal at Mooloolaba,

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had a 40-foot catamaran built,

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but I had the time to take out

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and just to watch the guys building the boat

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at my back door.

491
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Right?

492
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And then the following year, in 94,

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we pulled the kids out of school for 12 months

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and we lived on the boat for over six months.

495
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Wow.

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But we sailed as far South as Hobart,

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as far North as Townsville and back,

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different trips, right?

499
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Went across to New Zealand,

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snow skiing there at one stage.

501
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I mean, Hawaii, did a Hawaii trip,

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went across to the UK and Europe,

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Ryan River cruise, Mediterranean cruise,

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end up with a six-week four-wheel drive trip

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out through the center,

506
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but it was 14 months out of my business.

507
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Yeah.

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But it made no difference to our income.

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The following year,

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we'd already bought a bigger block of land

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and we built this house up there on Mooloolaba

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on Minyama Island.

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It was, well, it was two and a half million dollars

514
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back then.

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And it was sold a couple of years ago now

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for 6.75 million.

517
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Yeah.

518
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Right?

519
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But I mean, it was like 120 squares.

520
00:22:18.620 --> 00:22:20.980
And so what I guess I'd really like to emphasize

521
00:22:21.000 --> 00:22:24.040
for people is some people never change

522
00:22:24.040 --> 00:22:25.200
from being an employee.

523
00:22:25.200 --> 00:22:28.000
Some people never change from self-employed.

524
00:22:29.560 --> 00:22:31.080
They just, they can get stuck there.

525
00:22:31.080 --> 00:22:33.000
But the only thing that's going to hold you there

526
00:22:33.000 --> 00:22:33.840
is your mindsets.

527
00:22:33.840 --> 00:22:36.720
If you allow your mindsets to transition,

528
00:22:36.720 --> 00:22:39.640
your world will actually transition with that change.

529
00:22:39.640 --> 00:22:41.880
That's actually, you know, Romans 12, two in action,

530
00:22:41.880 --> 00:22:44.280
do not conform to the pattern of this world,

531
00:22:44.280 --> 00:22:46.600
but be transformed by the renewing of your mind.

532
00:22:46.600 --> 00:22:48.400
It's going to impact every area of your life.

533
00:22:48.400 --> 00:22:52.660
Now, what we're going to really focus on in this session

534
00:22:52.660 --> 00:22:55.660
is you've really made a big transition, haven't you?

535
00:22:55.660 --> 00:22:57.900
From the B to the I,

536
00:22:57.900 --> 00:23:01.020
and I'd love to hear how that began to take place.

537
00:23:02.340 --> 00:23:04.900
Yeah, well, what happened is, you know,

538
00:23:04.900 --> 00:23:07.220
recently, and it was only last year, you know,

539
00:23:07.220 --> 00:23:10.060
I've been involved with networking for, since full-time,

540
00:23:10.060 --> 00:23:13.820
since January 31st, 1986.

541
00:23:13.820 --> 00:23:16.900
So we're talking 35 years, 36 years now, full-time.

542
00:23:18.400 --> 00:23:21.380
And, you know, that's over half my life.

543
00:23:21.380 --> 00:23:22.500
Yeah.

544
00:23:22.500 --> 00:23:25.060
But what happened is last year I got introduced

545
00:23:25.060 --> 00:23:30.060
to a membership program based in the crypto sphere.

546
00:23:31.700 --> 00:23:33.540
And to be honest with you, it went clean over my head.

547
00:23:33.540 --> 00:23:35.660
First time I saw it, I thought, oh, it's probably a scam.

548
00:23:35.660 --> 00:23:36.980
Looks too good to be true.

549
00:23:36.980 --> 00:23:37.980
Didn't bother checking it out.

550
00:23:37.980 --> 00:23:39.260
That was in April.

551
00:23:39.260 --> 00:23:40.100
Yeah.

552
00:23:40.100 --> 00:23:42.980
And then what happened is,

553
00:23:43.640 --> 00:23:48.480
luckily I was contacted again by an ex-pastor,

554
00:23:48.480 --> 00:23:51.560
ex-business guy, good friend of mine for nine years.

555
00:23:51.560 --> 00:23:54.480
And, you know, he was talking to me about it

556
00:23:54.480 --> 00:23:55.920
and saying how well it was working

557
00:23:55.920 --> 00:23:57.480
and all this sort of stuff, right?

558
00:23:57.480 --> 00:24:00.760
Finally, I got around to looking at it and I thought, okay,

559
00:24:00.760 --> 00:24:02.720
well, I could see how this could work,

560
00:24:04.040 --> 00:24:06.220
but I know I'm doing what I'm meant to be doing

561
00:24:06.220 --> 00:24:08.760
from a spiritual point of view

562
00:24:08.760 --> 00:24:11.080
with the other network I was in.

563
00:24:11.080 --> 00:24:13.460
And so I thought, when I went to bed that night,

564
00:24:13.460 --> 00:24:17.780
I'll just wish him luck and keep doing what I'm doing.

565
00:24:17.780 --> 00:24:19.820
But next morning I was set up to have a Zoom call

566
00:24:19.820 --> 00:24:21.540
with a guy and I'd been set up for three days.

567
00:24:21.540 --> 00:24:24.420
Had not spoken to him for over 10 years.

568
00:24:24.420 --> 00:24:27.020
And he was telling me how luckily

569
00:24:27.020 --> 00:24:32.140
he'd always invested wisely, right?

570
00:24:32.140 --> 00:24:34.220
Now, to be honest, I hadn't done that.

571
00:24:35.100 --> 00:24:35.940
Yeah.

572
00:24:35.940 --> 00:24:37.380
You know, I've been good in the S quadrant,

573
00:24:37.380 --> 00:24:38.740
I've been good in the B quadrant,

574
00:24:38.760 --> 00:24:41.200
but basically anytime I put my fingers

575
00:24:41.200 --> 00:24:45.200
into the I quadrant, it hadn't worked out well, right?

576
00:24:45.200 --> 00:24:46.800
I mean, I had a go at different things,

577
00:24:46.800 --> 00:24:48.280
but it just hadn't worked out.

578
00:24:48.280 --> 00:24:49.280
Whereas this guy's telling me

579
00:24:49.280 --> 00:24:50.720
it had always worked out well for him.

580
00:24:50.720 --> 00:24:52.360
And that's why he was able to retire

581
00:24:52.360 --> 00:24:54.320
from networking three years ago.

582
00:24:54.320 --> 00:24:55.160
Yeah.

583
00:24:55.160 --> 00:24:57.560
And he went on to explain that he was lucky enough

584
00:24:57.560 --> 00:24:59.000
to be part of a think tank.

585
00:24:59.000 --> 00:25:00.560
In this little town he lived in.

586
00:25:00.000 --> 00:25:04.480
out in Arizona. There were about seven people involved. He was the only networker amongst them.

587
00:25:04.480 --> 00:25:09.040
The rest were all business guys. And what he explained to me, he said, every time one of us

588
00:25:09.040 --> 00:25:13.840
had come up with an idea, we'd throw it on the table, we'd all pull it to bits. And that's what

589
00:25:13.840 --> 00:25:22.240
I've been doing for nearly 30 years with the same group. And then he mentioned, and last year,

590
00:25:22.240 --> 00:25:29.120
one of the guys brought to the table this program whereby you get half a percent per day for 600

591
00:25:29.120 --> 00:25:36.400
days. You end up with three times in rewards back from what you'd put in. And as soon as he said it,

592
00:25:36.400 --> 00:25:43.600
I'm thinking, Lord, you've got my attention. Because with less than 12 hours earlier,

593
00:25:43.600 --> 00:25:46.000
I'd gone to bed thinking, I'm not going to worry about it.

594
00:25:46.560 --> 00:25:50.800
Yeah. This is your third encounter with this concept.

595
00:25:51.440 --> 00:25:57.520
Yeah. Right. And so what happens, I'm sitting there and I said, you've got to be kidding. I

596
00:25:57.520 --> 00:26:04.080
said, how does that work? And I spent 20 minutes asking him questions. But what I could visualize

597
00:26:04.080 --> 00:26:09.600
as during this process is there I am sitting on the roof of the house. The floodwaters are rising.

598
00:26:09.600 --> 00:26:13.600
I've just waved goodbye to a speedboat that wanted to come and rescue me saying, no, the Lord's going

599
00:26:13.600 --> 00:26:18.400
to save me. And now I see this helicopter coming with a ladder hanging down. And I'm thinking,

600
00:26:18.400 --> 00:26:26.080
well, I'm not going to miss this opportunity. So in the end, I asked him 20 minutes of questions.

601
00:26:26.880 --> 00:26:32.480
And in the end, he said, look, Trev, if you like, he said, I can send you a video you can have a

602
00:26:32.480 --> 00:26:36.800
look at. He said, that'll give you an idea of what's going on. But more importantly,

603
00:26:36.800 --> 00:26:42.720
the due diligence documents. I said, what do you mean, due diligence documents? I've been

604
00:26:42.720 --> 00:26:47.360
in the industry 36 years. I've never heard anybody mention that. And he said, oh, well,

605
00:26:47.360 --> 00:26:50.960
that's where you can go through and check out. It's all independent websites. So you can see

606
00:26:50.960 --> 00:26:57.280
the guys behind it are for real. They are billionaires, right? They are working with CSIRO

607
00:26:57.280 --> 00:27:04.080
in Australia, right? Commonwealth Scientific Crowd, right? Government. They are working with

608
00:27:04.080 --> 00:27:11.600
Monash University. They're registered there. They've got Amazon Prime documentary videos.

609
00:27:12.720 --> 00:27:18.960
Whole big section on these guys. He said, if you like, I can send that. I said, yeah, that'd be

610
00:27:18.960 --> 00:27:26.080
great. On the video, exactly the same one I've watched the night before. I promise you, Benji,

611
00:27:26.080 --> 00:27:31.760
I watched it much more closely second time around. Yes. Because this is crypto. I mean,

612
00:27:31.760 --> 00:27:36.400
you've got to understand where I'm coming from. Oh, yeah. I mean, you are coming from the world

613
00:27:36.400 --> 00:27:43.120
of floppy disks. You know, this is a big journey. You got blown away by floppy disks. So it's

614
00:27:43.120 --> 00:27:50.960
actually kind of amazing. And I think that, you know, I think that there's actually not that many

615
00:27:50.960 --> 00:27:56.240
people that are at your age that have actually been so versatile and have actually been able to

616
00:27:56.240 --> 00:28:02.480
make this step into the crypto space. So that's pretty awesome to see. Even if it took a few

617
00:28:02.480 --> 00:28:06.160
videos, I mean, I think it would take that for any of us. But it's just really encouraging to

618
00:28:06.160 --> 00:28:11.760
see someone, you know, who who's lived through the invention of floppy disks come in and now

619
00:28:11.760 --> 00:28:16.480
in this space of blockchain and crypto. It's awesome. Well, see, where I was coming from with

620
00:28:16.480 --> 00:28:22.960
the crypto, I didn't understand it. All I would ever Google was how many crypto currencies are

621
00:28:22.960 --> 00:28:30.320
there? Once it got to 1300, I stopped doing that because I'm thinking, man, anybody with a big

622
00:28:30.320 --> 00:28:35.840
enough computer can, you know, make one of these things. I didn't realize, you know, I see the

623
00:28:35.840 --> 00:28:39.680
value going up and up and up, but I didn't really realize. And so that's where I was at headspace

624
00:28:39.680 --> 00:28:44.160
wise, when the guys started talking about this network, about blockchain, building the community,

625
00:28:44.160 --> 00:28:48.720
you know, 30 million people and all this sort of stuff. And in the end, when I heard that,

626
00:28:48.720 --> 00:28:54.560
I'm thinking, OK, well, I can set up a little part time job. Keep doing my other thing.

627
00:28:54.560 --> 00:28:59.200
But I've done multiple things before. And it's not a problem. It's just part time.

628
00:29:00.480 --> 00:29:04.800
And sure, I help build communities. That's what I've been doing. I help people change mindsets.

629
00:29:05.520 --> 00:29:09.760
And what I had to do here was do a lot of study to start with, and it was just on that one video,

630
00:29:09.760 --> 00:29:14.320
but going through making sure. So I actually got screenshots of every screen, every slide they had,

631
00:29:14.880 --> 00:29:18.320
put it into my own PowerPoint, because I learned a lot better from the written word

632
00:29:18.880 --> 00:29:24.640
than I did from watching a video. OK, so with this video, like, let's like help us understand

633
00:29:25.280 --> 00:29:30.160
what is it? What's the crypto space that you're in? What is crypto mining? Like, tell us what

634
00:29:30.160 --> 00:29:33.920
happened as you jumped into the space. OK, what happened when I got into it?

635
00:29:34.960 --> 00:29:39.840
I mean, initially, when they're talking about half a percent per day return for 600 days,

636
00:29:39.840 --> 00:29:45.680
three times. In some ways, that put me off initially, because I'm thinking that's too

637
00:29:45.680 --> 00:29:50.560
good to be true. That can't be right. Yeah. Right. Just I've seen a lot of scams in the past.

638
00:29:51.200 --> 00:29:55.520
Yeah. So I just thought, OK, well, I wish I'm like, but it's probably a scam.

639
00:29:55.520 --> 00:29:59.200
The fact that people are making money in it doesn't matter. A lot of scams and make money.

640
00:30:00.000 --> 00:30:04.560
It was only second, and if it hadn't been for the second one,

641
00:30:04.560 --> 00:30:06.320
I could see that, well, the second time I saw it,

642
00:30:06.320 --> 00:30:09.000
I'm thinking, okay, I could see that these guys are for real,

643
00:30:09.000 --> 00:30:10.240
this could possibly work.

644
00:30:11.800 --> 00:30:13.560
But if the good Lord hadn't got me to speak

645
00:30:13.560 --> 00:30:15.200
to this other guy that I had not spoken to

646
00:30:15.200 --> 00:30:17.560
for over 10 years, and he spent 20 minutes

647
00:30:17.560 --> 00:30:19.280
telling me how good it was,

648
00:30:19.280 --> 00:30:22.040
and the fact that he'd been involved for over six months,

649
00:30:22.920 --> 00:30:26.240
right, and it didn't take him long,

650
00:30:26.240 --> 00:30:29.240
10 minutes a day, but it's working.

651
00:30:30.200 --> 00:30:32.280
I wouldn't have bothered looking at it.

652
00:30:32.280 --> 00:30:34.640
But once I started doing the research on it,

653
00:30:34.640 --> 00:30:37.400
then I realised, no, these guys are for real.

654
00:30:37.400 --> 00:30:39.720
In the end, I spent a lot of time going back

655
00:30:39.720 --> 00:30:41.520
and looking at where these guys are coming from.

656
00:30:41.520 --> 00:30:44.240
He was one of the original Bitcoin miners.

657
00:30:44.240 --> 00:30:45.240
Okay, wow.

658
00:30:45.240 --> 00:30:49.680
Bitcoin miners, right, and they had an Aussie TV news report,

659
00:30:49.680 --> 00:30:52.840
it was on YouTube, where the lady standing out

660
00:30:52.840 --> 00:30:57.840
in front of this Bitcoin mining operation in China,

661
00:30:58.240 --> 00:31:00.960
and they talked about the fact that they'd been in Mongolia,

662
00:31:00.960 --> 00:31:04.120
they'd been in Washington State, been in Iceland,

663
00:31:04.120 --> 00:31:04.960
but now they're in China,

664
00:31:04.960 --> 00:31:06.520
because that's where the cheapest power is.

665
00:31:06.520 --> 00:31:07.360
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

666
00:31:07.360 --> 00:31:08.560
And it was costing $10,000 a day.

667
00:31:08.560 --> 00:31:12.680
Yeah, and I mean, in the space of mining crypto,

668
00:31:12.680 --> 00:31:15.000
that really is one of your biggest expenses, right,

669
00:31:15.000 --> 00:31:18.080
is you need power, and then obviously some facilities,

670
00:31:18.080 --> 00:31:19.680
so that's pretty expensive, you know,

671
00:31:19.680 --> 00:31:23.000
having overheads for geographical space,

672
00:31:23.000 --> 00:31:24.720
and some buildings and some computers,

673
00:31:24.760 --> 00:31:29.280
but electricity is the huge variable, isn't it?

674
00:31:29.280 --> 00:31:30.120
That was a big one, right?

675
00:31:30.120 --> 00:31:30.960
And they were talking back then,

676
00:31:30.960 --> 00:31:34.160
and this was a 2016 video.

677
00:31:34.160 --> 00:31:35.840
So it's not as if this guy's just come in

678
00:31:35.840 --> 00:31:37.240
and said this would be a good way to, you know,

679
00:31:37.240 --> 00:31:38.680
make some money from a network.

680
00:31:38.680 --> 00:31:40.120
No, no, no.

681
00:31:40.120 --> 00:31:41.600
In the end, the more I looked into it,

682
00:31:41.600 --> 00:31:43.640
I realized, really, the money doesn't mean much

683
00:31:43.640 --> 00:31:44.480
to this guy.

684
00:31:44.480 --> 00:31:47.320
He is passionate about getting his blockchain technology

685
00:31:47.320 --> 00:31:48.440
out to the world.

686
00:31:49.480 --> 00:31:50.440
He saw it as, you know,

687
00:31:50.440 --> 00:31:54.560
when the financial crash happened back in 2009,

688
00:31:55.400 --> 00:31:56.800
and it wasn't long after that

689
00:31:56.800 --> 00:31:59.280
where he got introduced to Bitcoin,

690
00:31:59.280 --> 00:32:01.200
and he's smart enough to be able to go through,

691
00:32:01.200 --> 00:32:04.160
read their white paper, and understand it.

692
00:32:04.160 --> 00:32:05.960
That's when he just said,

693
00:32:05.960 --> 00:32:08.200
this is going to be the future.

694
00:32:08.200 --> 00:32:09.680
And at times, he'd been out there,

695
00:32:09.680 --> 00:32:13.400
and, you know, he credited with saving Bitcoin.

696
00:32:13.400 --> 00:32:15.920
You know, when it was back there, you know,

697
00:32:15.920 --> 00:32:17.240
when the price had crashed.

698
00:32:18.360 --> 00:32:21.560
And, you know, they're mining this stuff.

699
00:32:21.560 --> 00:32:24.400
And what really, it took me a long while to understand,

700
00:32:25.240 --> 00:32:27.240
you're looking at, okay, dollars in, dollars out,

701
00:32:27.240 --> 00:32:29.680
how they're making their money, and all the rest of it.

702
00:32:31.560 --> 00:32:34.080
We've never been in before

703
00:32:34.080 --> 00:32:39.080
where they're actually making the value that they give us,

704
00:32:39.320 --> 00:32:42.280
which we can then go and trade on an exchange.

705
00:32:42.280 --> 00:32:45.360
Okay, so if we just break this down, right,

706
00:32:45.360 --> 00:32:47.200
just to help people who are tracking with us.

707
00:32:47.200 --> 00:32:50.560
So guys, I hope you're tracking with us nicely.

708
00:32:50.560 --> 00:32:53.520
And I think probably the thing

709
00:32:53.520 --> 00:32:55.400
that you want to first go,

710
00:32:55.400 --> 00:32:57.480
okay, hey, this has got some interest in.

711
00:32:57.480 --> 00:32:59.800
And I always do this with, you know,

712
00:32:59.800 --> 00:33:00.960
when I'm looking at opportunities,

713
00:33:00.960 --> 00:33:04.200
it's like, hey, what is the actual opportunity?

714
00:33:04.200 --> 00:33:06.440
Because if you're going to do risk versus reward,

715
00:33:06.440 --> 00:33:08.160
you can't understand the reward fully

716
00:33:08.160 --> 00:33:10.480
if you don't actually understand what that is,

717
00:33:10.480 --> 00:33:12.200
what the opportunity is.

718
00:33:12.200 --> 00:33:14.200
So once you've clearly defined the opportunity,

719
00:33:14.200 --> 00:33:16.840
you can work backwards and see if it's a level of risk

720
00:33:16.840 --> 00:33:19.080
that you're happy with or not happy with,

721
00:33:19.080 --> 00:33:21.960
and you can do your due diligence based on that.

722
00:33:22.000 --> 00:33:24.080
You've got to understand the reward

723
00:33:24.080 --> 00:33:26.840
before you go back and do your due diligence.

724
00:33:26.840 --> 00:33:29.360
So you're saying that in this membership program

725
00:33:29.360 --> 00:33:33.320
you're a part of, you can invest in there,

726
00:33:33.320 --> 00:33:36.720
or you join, you acquire a membership.

727
00:33:36.720 --> 00:33:38.160
You acquire a membership, right?

728
00:33:38.160 --> 00:33:39.600
What we have to do is we have to take

729
00:33:39.600 --> 00:33:41.960
some of our normal Aussie dollars in my case.

730
00:33:41.960 --> 00:33:42.800
Yeah.

731
00:33:42.800 --> 00:33:45.040
Right, it was about 450 at the time.

732
00:33:46.800 --> 00:33:50.040
Set up an exchange, right, get an exchange, right?

733
00:33:50.080 --> 00:33:54.840
A USDT, which is a cryptocurrency tied to the US dollar.

734
00:33:54.840 --> 00:33:56.000
Yeah.

735
00:33:56.000 --> 00:33:57.920
Right, and then with that,

736
00:33:57.920 --> 00:34:02.920
I acquired a 300 USDT membership.

737
00:34:03.200 --> 00:34:04.720
Yeah, fantastic.

738
00:34:04.720 --> 00:34:06.720
My total exposure initially,

739
00:34:06.720 --> 00:34:11.280
all I'm putting in is what, $450 a strike?

740
00:34:11.280 --> 00:34:16.280
Yes, with the system that you are jumping on board with,

741
00:34:16.280 --> 00:34:19.679
the system that you are jumping on board with

742
00:34:19.679 --> 00:34:20.520
that we're talking about here,

743
00:34:20.520 --> 00:34:21.639
and we're just going to get a little bit clearer

744
00:34:21.639 --> 00:34:23.520
as we unpack this a little bit.

745
00:34:23.520 --> 00:34:25.280
They are generating,

746
00:34:25.280 --> 00:34:27.480
because now you're stepped out of that space, right?

747
00:34:27.480 --> 00:34:30.600
You've gone from E to the S quadrant to the B quadrant,

748
00:34:30.600 --> 00:34:33.679
and now you're in this I quadrant, the investor quadrant,

749
00:34:33.679 --> 00:34:38.000
which under the premise, right, of the investor quadrant

750
00:34:38.000 --> 00:34:40.199
is that your money is making money for you,

751
00:34:40.199 --> 00:34:42.280
and you don't actually have to get involved.

752
00:34:42.280 --> 00:34:43.960
It's fully automated.

753
00:34:43.960 --> 00:34:45.360
Your money's making money for you.

754
00:34:45.360 --> 00:34:47.360
So you're stepping into the space now,

755
00:34:48.280 --> 00:34:49.120
on your journey,

756
00:34:49.120 --> 00:34:51.040
where your money's starting to make money for you,

757
00:34:51.040 --> 00:34:54.639
and the promise, the reward is triple

758
00:34:54.639 --> 00:34:57.200
what you put in is what you get out.

759
00:34:57.200 --> 00:34:58.520
Yeah, over 600 days.

760
00:34:58.520 --> 00:34:59.880
Over 600 days.

761
00:35:00.000 --> 00:35:02.520
which is what you were saying before

762
00:35:02.520 --> 00:35:04.680
is it's half a percent a day.

763
00:35:04.680 --> 00:35:06.320
Half a percent per day, right?

764
00:35:06.320 --> 00:35:07.160
Yeah.

765
00:35:07.160 --> 00:35:11.320
And then what also happens is you can actually do rebuys

766
00:35:11.320 --> 00:35:13.560
and purchase a mini membership

767
00:35:13.560 --> 00:35:18.560
when you've had 50 rewards for these HU hyper unit rewards.

768
00:35:21.120 --> 00:35:21.960
Yeah.

769
00:35:21.960 --> 00:35:23.800
And HU.

770
00:35:23.800 --> 00:35:27.320
So anyway, that's how it all worked.

771
00:35:28.320 --> 00:35:29.560
And so initially you just,

772
00:35:29.560 --> 00:35:31.120
you know, you're talking about the risk.

773
00:35:31.120 --> 00:35:34.040
Well, I started off with 300 US,

774
00:35:34.040 --> 00:35:36.840
you know, the equivalent of 300 US dollars.

775
00:35:36.840 --> 00:35:37.680
Yeah.

776
00:35:37.680 --> 00:35:38.960
And that's a really good point

777
00:35:38.960 --> 00:35:40.240
that I would just make for people

778
00:35:40.240 --> 00:35:43.440
if they're thinking about investing in anything, right?

779
00:35:43.440 --> 00:35:45.920
If you, whatever you're thinking about investing,

780
00:35:46.840 --> 00:35:48.680
always make sure that you're comfortable

781
00:35:48.680 --> 00:35:50.160
with the risk factor.

782
00:35:50.160 --> 00:35:52.200
You know, you wanna be really conscious of the reward,

783
00:35:52.200 --> 00:35:53.760
really conscious of the risk.

784
00:35:53.760 --> 00:35:56.040
And then when you do put money into something,

785
00:35:56.160 --> 00:36:00.360
make sure it's an amount that seems comfortable to you,

786
00:36:00.360 --> 00:36:01.200
right?

787
00:36:01.200 --> 00:36:05.080
So for you, for example, putting in $300,

788
00:36:05.080 --> 00:36:06.920
you've minimized the risk

789
00:36:06.920 --> 00:36:10.160
so that any action that you are taking in investing

790
00:36:10.160 --> 00:36:13.720
or, you know, building finance or stewarding finance,

791
00:36:13.720 --> 00:36:18.640
you always wanna make sure that you're stewarding well,

792
00:36:18.640 --> 00:36:21.160
but also you're operating at a level

793
00:36:21.160 --> 00:36:23.000
where the risk feels comfortable.

794
00:36:23.000 --> 00:36:25.080
So at $300, you're not really at US,

795
00:36:25.120 --> 00:36:27.440
you're not really feeling like it's that big a risk,

796
00:36:27.440 --> 00:36:28.280
really at all.

797
00:36:28.280 --> 00:36:29.120
It's not that big a risk.

798
00:36:29.120 --> 00:36:30.000
I mean, I looked at it and said, okay,

799
00:36:30.000 --> 00:36:33.120
well, I can get involved, right, at that level,

800
00:36:33.120 --> 00:36:35.640
then I can start learning how it all works.

801
00:36:35.640 --> 00:36:37.400
Because I haven't been in the industry for so long,

802
00:36:37.400 --> 00:36:39.160
I know it's not until after you get in

803
00:36:39.160 --> 00:36:41.320
and you start doing that you actually learn.

804
00:36:41.320 --> 00:36:42.160
Yeah.

805
00:36:42.160 --> 00:36:43.720
You get an idea of what's going on,

806
00:36:43.720 --> 00:36:44.720
but it's only when you get in

807
00:36:44.720 --> 00:36:47.920
and start going through the process on a day-to-day basis

808
00:36:47.920 --> 00:36:49.400
until you really learn.

809
00:36:49.400 --> 00:36:50.240
Totally.

810
00:36:50.240 --> 00:36:52.800
So you jumped in on this opportunity,

811
00:36:52.800 --> 00:36:54.640
you sunk a few hundred dollars in

812
00:36:54.640 --> 00:36:59.040
and you start getting your payouts

813
00:36:59.040 --> 00:37:02.960
and with the promise of tripling over 600 days,

814
00:37:02.960 --> 00:37:03.800
what started to happen for you?

815
00:37:03.800 --> 00:37:08.040
Did you start making returns and then also?

816
00:37:08.040 --> 00:37:12.640
What happened then is I plugged into a lot of the webinars

817
00:37:12.640 --> 00:37:14.280
and the training that they had

818
00:37:14.280 --> 00:37:17.240
and that increased my understanding, my belief.

819
00:37:17.240 --> 00:37:19.280
It turned out that there were people involved

820
00:37:19.280 --> 00:37:22.520
that had been involved for six months or more that I knew.

821
00:37:23.800 --> 00:37:24.640
Right?

822
00:37:24.640 --> 00:37:27.200
And some of these guys I've known for 30 years.

823
00:37:27.200 --> 00:37:30.600
And they're telling me it's all working well for them,

824
00:37:30.600 --> 00:37:33.120
no way am I going to not believe them.

825
00:37:33.120 --> 00:37:33.960
Right?

826
00:37:33.960 --> 00:37:34.800
But then what also happened,

827
00:37:34.800 --> 00:37:37.880
I spent a heap of time then looking into the founders.

828
00:37:39.160 --> 00:37:40.200
Because in the end,

829
00:37:40.200 --> 00:37:42.240
I want to know where the founders are coming from,

830
00:37:42.240 --> 00:37:44.680
where their heart's at, what's their goal.

831
00:37:44.680 --> 00:37:45.520
Yeah.

832
00:37:45.520 --> 00:37:46.680
And when I did that,

833
00:37:46.680 --> 00:37:50.600
I realised these guys are passionate

834
00:37:50.600 --> 00:37:52.600
about this whole blockchain space

835
00:37:53.200 --> 00:37:54.040
all of it.

836
00:37:54.040 --> 00:37:55.880
Not just one little bit.

837
00:37:55.880 --> 00:37:57.440
And the more I looked at these guys,

838
00:37:57.440 --> 00:38:00.920
the more I realised they're passionate about blockchain.

839
00:38:00.920 --> 00:38:03.400
They see this as a way to change the world.

840
00:38:03.400 --> 00:38:04.240
Yeah.

841
00:38:04.240 --> 00:38:05.920
In so many different areas.

842
00:38:05.920 --> 00:38:07.320
Yeah, definitely.

843
00:38:07.320 --> 00:38:08.600
And it was after that,

844
00:38:08.600 --> 00:38:10.760
that's when I then made a decision

845
00:38:10.760 --> 00:38:12.800
after I'd learned a lot more,

846
00:38:12.800 --> 00:38:15.960
I did purchase additional membership.

847
00:38:17.080 --> 00:38:17.920
Right?

848
00:38:17.920 --> 00:38:19.360
Because you can get as many as you like.

849
00:38:19.360 --> 00:38:20.200
Right?

850
00:38:20.360 --> 00:38:22.880
You've got this option of doing rebuys as well.

851
00:38:22.880 --> 00:38:24.080
That's with your reward.

852
00:38:24.080 --> 00:38:26.440
But I purchased additional membership.

853
00:38:26.440 --> 00:38:27.280
Yeah.

854
00:38:27.280 --> 00:38:28.440
In the end, I'm looking at it and saying,

855
00:38:28.440 --> 00:38:30.360
okay, when I set up that yacht charter,

856
00:38:31.760 --> 00:38:33.600
I remember now back then,

857
00:38:33.600 --> 00:38:36.080
I'd have been 29 or 30 or something.

858
00:38:36.080 --> 00:38:39.840
And coming back from Melbourne one time

859
00:38:39.840 --> 00:38:41.000
with a check in my pocket,

860
00:38:41.000 --> 00:38:43.880
made written out to me from General Credit,

861
00:38:44.840 --> 00:38:46.560
right, which is a finance company back then,

862
00:38:46.560 --> 00:38:50.280
for $175,000, Aussie.

863
00:38:50.280 --> 00:38:51.320
Yeah.

864
00:38:51.320 --> 00:38:53.760
And it would have been back in 1980.

865
00:38:53.760 --> 00:38:55.080
Wow.

866
00:38:55.080 --> 00:38:56.000
And that was on a story.

867
00:38:56.000 --> 00:38:58.600
We're going to use that to purchase two boats.

868
00:39:00.840 --> 00:39:04.440
And I realised if I believed in something,

869
00:39:04.440 --> 00:39:08.640
I was prepared to put in, right?

870
00:39:08.640 --> 00:39:11.720
Whether that be time, energy, effort, whatever else.

871
00:39:11.720 --> 00:39:12.560
Yeah.

872
00:39:14.120 --> 00:39:14.960
And that's what happened.

873
00:39:14.960 --> 00:39:18.000
It's been the most incredible ride I've ever seen.

874
00:39:18.000 --> 00:39:20.640
And I'm still, you know, just getting my head around it.

875
00:39:20.640 --> 00:39:22.960
I mean, this whole concept of the fact

876
00:39:22.960 --> 00:39:24.560
that we're part of a membership

877
00:39:25.600 --> 00:39:28.000
with digital gold miners,

878
00:39:30.480 --> 00:39:35.040
and they give us digital gold as our reward.

879
00:39:35.040 --> 00:39:38.840
Okay, so let me again kind of come at this

880
00:39:38.840 --> 00:39:39.760
from another angle.

881
00:39:39.760 --> 00:39:41.960
So try and help people understand.

882
00:39:42.040 --> 00:39:45.000
So you get some,

883
00:39:45.000 --> 00:39:46.480
being a part of this particular membership

884
00:39:46.480 --> 00:39:47.320
that you're a part of,

885
00:39:47.320 --> 00:39:49.320
that's generating you returns, right?

886
00:39:49.320 --> 00:39:51.800
It's your money making money for you.

887
00:39:51.800 --> 00:39:53.120
But to start that process,

888
00:39:53.120 --> 00:39:58.120
you took $300, you know, worth of currency.

889
00:39:58.120 --> 00:40:00.280
So it would have been 450 or whatever.

890
00:40:00.000 --> 00:40:06.720
it was Australian and you purchased $300 worth of a particular crypto coin called USDT. Now that

891
00:40:06.720 --> 00:40:11.520
coin guys a lot of people use that because it's a stable coin so it means its price is always

892
00:40:11.520 --> 00:40:19.200
tethered to the gold sorry to the US dollar which you know as inflation hits that's not necessarily

893
00:40:19.200 --> 00:40:27.840
a great thing for USDT but that's how it works as USDT is tied to the value of the American dollar

894
00:40:27.840 --> 00:40:33.360
so you can buy that as a cryptocurrency and then do anything that you like with it really there or

895
00:40:33.360 --> 00:40:37.680
you can even just exchange it back for just for cash if you want to do I mean it wouldn't make

896
00:40:37.680 --> 00:40:43.280
sense because there's always usually a little fee but you can transfer between cash into crypto and

897
00:40:43.280 --> 00:40:51.600
so you got your $300 worth of USDT and what did you what did you do with that? Yeah the term we

898
00:40:51.600 --> 00:40:58.960
use is I then acquired a membership right I acquired a membership and having acquired that

899
00:40:58.960 --> 00:41:06.640
a membership with that $300 USDT they then started the following day giving me this half a percent

900
00:41:06.640 --> 00:41:14.400
per day. Return. Return right there was a reward every day I get I'm a member and I get membership

901
00:41:14.400 --> 00:41:19.920
rewards. Yes. And to be a member and to get membership rewards is legal in every country

902
00:41:19.920 --> 00:41:26.960
in the world. Yes. Yeah. Right and so it just stays in there the membership rewards they've

903
00:41:26.960 --> 00:41:34.000
got a special unit they call it in there HUs. Yeah. But then when we want to go and withdraw

904
00:41:34.000 --> 00:41:41.440
redeem and withdraw some of our rewards that's when we go through a process but then they give us

905
00:41:42.240 --> 00:41:47.440
a token a crypto token which they're mining. Yeah. Which has got value on exchanges

906
00:41:47.600 --> 00:41:52.000
and they give us enough of those so that we get you know

907
00:41:53.760 --> 00:42:00.560
the one USDT basically for each of the each of the HUs. Okay. When we go to travel so it's

908
00:42:00.560 --> 00:42:08.000
unbelievable. Beautiful. But the thing that got me is they're not giving you the USDT.

909
00:42:09.040 --> 00:42:12.640
Okay this is this is really important I think this is really important for people to grasp like how

910
00:42:12.640 --> 00:42:22.080
can people give you a return of you know 300 over 600 days how does that work and there's all

911
00:42:22.080 --> 00:42:26.400
there's so many amazing systems so these guys and I think where you're going with this right now is

912
00:42:26.400 --> 00:42:31.440
talking about crypto mining so do you just want to just touch on us for a little bit of just a

913
00:42:31.440 --> 00:42:35.520
little bit more of an overview of crypto mining and then we'll zoom in for how it works in this

914
00:42:35.520 --> 00:42:43.680
particular setup. Basically crypto mining people have got big computers and electricity and the

915
00:42:43.680 --> 00:42:48.800
computers are solving some sort of problem in there turns you have something on a blockchain whatever

916
00:42:48.800 --> 00:42:59.760
that is right and you can then trade it on exchanges and it's got value I mean what happened

917
00:42:59.760 --> 00:43:04.480
is I in the end I realized I saw an article on the ABC and I'd known it beforehand but it's like the

918
00:43:04.480 --> 00:43:09.760
reserve bank over here they talked about the reserve bank here in Australia when the COVID hit

919
00:43:10.880 --> 00:43:16.800
and this is an ABC news article the fact that by changing a few figures on a computer screen

920
00:43:18.720 --> 00:43:27.520
they created another 2 billion dollars. Wow. Just like that. Just 2 billion? 2 billion this was you

921
00:43:27.520 --> 00:43:33.360
don't want to say it's back in March. Yeah. You know 2020 whenever it was. Yeah. Right. Absolutely.

922
00:43:35.920 --> 00:43:42.400
This is a big deal. This is a big deal right now. Yeah fiat currency is created with computers and

923
00:43:42.400 --> 00:43:49.040
electricity. Cryptocurrency is created with computers and electricity. Absolutely but

924
00:43:49.040 --> 00:43:53.760
governments around the world in the last couple of years have been printing trillions of dollars

925
00:43:53.760 --> 00:44:00.320
which is actually I mean you can guarantee when governments just just randomly and you know kind

926
00:44:00.320 --> 00:44:07.920
of willingly print money and print trillions of dollars you can guarantee that that's going to

927
00:44:07.920 --> 00:44:14.560
have a whiplash of inflation which we are already seeing inflation hitting hard. Yeah and see Benji

928
00:44:15.440 --> 00:44:21.440
we keep thinking about them printing dollars. Yeah. That's old school because we're still

929
00:44:21.440 --> 00:44:26.720
thinking of cash. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. These days it's not. Yeah. They're not printing anything they're

930
00:44:26.720 --> 00:44:31.120
just changing a few figures on a computer screen. Yeah. Crazy right. There's no more stuff coming out of

931
00:44:31.120 --> 00:44:38.080
the mint where they're making this stuff. Yeah. It's just things on a computer screen. Yeah.

932
00:44:38.080 --> 00:44:43.040
Exactly. You know when you realize that you realize how whole fiat currency is based on

933
00:44:43.040 --> 00:44:46.560
computers you know figures on a computer screen these days. Sure they're printing a little bit

934
00:44:47.520 --> 00:44:54.000
but that's next to nothing. Yeah. The overall scheme of things right and this cryptocurrency

935
00:44:54.000 --> 00:44:59.120
is exactly the same. So yeah I mean it's similar in a sense that you can actually create it like

936
00:44:59.120 --> 00:44:59.840
you can create

937
00:45:00.000 --> 00:45:06.800
crypto, you can build crypto, you can mine crypto. Yeah. And so tell us like some of the like,

938
00:45:07.440 --> 00:45:10.400
some of the backstory of these guys. I mean, you've covered that already just lightly, but

939
00:45:11.120 --> 00:45:15.200
the people that are part of this membership club that run it, they are some of the biggest

940
00:45:15.200 --> 00:45:19.760
crypto miners in the world, right? Historically, that's where they've been, apparently.

941
00:45:19.760 --> 00:45:24.400
I mean, they're probably quite possibly being overtaken now as a lot of people are jumping in

942
00:45:24.400 --> 00:45:29.920
on it, but they've had, they've been in that space for a long time. Yeah. And there's, yeah.

943
00:45:30.640 --> 00:45:35.440
But, you know, that's where you just need to take the time to do the due diligence,

944
00:45:36.480 --> 00:45:42.400
right, to understand it. And, you know, I mean, I can sketch it out on a piece of paper, you know,

945
00:45:42.960 --> 00:45:48.080
30 seconds, really, and show people how it works. But before they put any money in, I want them to

946
00:45:48.080 --> 00:45:52.400
go through and watch a series of videos. So they get an understanding where these guys are at,

947
00:45:52.400 --> 00:45:56.880
where they're coming from. Yeah, totally. And understand exactly what's going on. I don't want

948
00:45:56.880 --> 00:46:00.800
people, you know, throwing a whole heap of money in here just because I think it's a good idea.

949
00:46:00.800 --> 00:46:05.360
Yeah, totally. I want them to go and do their own due diligence. Absolutely. So you,

950
00:46:07.280 --> 00:46:12.080
what happened for you after you put your first, oh, I've got, I've got another couple of questions

951
00:46:12.080 --> 00:46:17.440
where I get it. This is good. So yeah, you put a few hundred bucks in, you started getting in

952
00:46:17.440 --> 00:46:22.160
the game. At what point did you realize the power of the fact that they were mining this currency?

953
00:46:22.160 --> 00:46:27.440
When did you realize that? What happened for you that you realized, oh, the genius of these people

954
00:46:27.440 --> 00:46:34.080
mining cryptocurrency? See, I didn't really realize that for the first few months. Yeah.

955
00:46:35.120 --> 00:46:38.080
Right. Because most of the presentations I was watching and that sort of stuff,

956
00:46:38.080 --> 00:46:42.640
I talk about these guys and billionaires, they can afford it. They're building a community,

957
00:46:42.640 --> 00:46:46.960
blah, blah, blah. Right. But what had happened, I've done some withdrawals.

958
00:46:47.840 --> 00:46:50.960
And what I realized when I was doing the withdrawals, not initially, you're just doing

959
00:46:50.960 --> 00:46:56.560
it in there. I get my USDT, you know, one for one sort of trick by running it through this exchange.

960
00:46:58.240 --> 00:47:02.160
But then a couple of months after I'd been doing that, all of a sudden I realized, man,

961
00:47:02.160 --> 00:47:07.760
they're not having to give me many of this token that they're producing, that they're mining,

962
00:47:08.560 --> 00:47:12.640
as they were two months ago, in fact, less than half. Yeah. And so I'm thinking, oh man,

963
00:47:13.520 --> 00:47:18.160
he's just saving on his electricity cost. And then it hit me.

964
00:47:20.000 --> 00:47:28.640
Once he's got it set up, that's about his only cost. Yeah. And I'm walking around and I think,

965
00:47:28.640 --> 00:47:34.080
I can't believe this. You know, so you go through and you draw it. And in every presentation,

966
00:47:34.080 --> 00:47:40.800
it had mentioned the fact that they give us a token that they produce. Yeah. But the emphasis

967
00:47:40.800 --> 00:47:46.400
in their presentation is billionaires, they can afford it. And to be honest, it's only recently

968
00:47:46.400 --> 00:47:50.240
that a lot of the other guys have woken up because I woke up back in September, October last year.

969
00:47:50.960 --> 00:47:54.960
But it's only recently the other guys have woken up and now their emphasis on the presentations

970
00:47:54.960 --> 00:47:59.520
is the fact that these guys are just mining this stuff. And this is a really good point,

971
00:47:59.520 --> 00:48:03.920
you know, in any businesses, you've got to understand where your leverage is. Like,

972
00:48:03.920 --> 00:48:07.840
what is it that's giving you leverage? Is it your capital that's giving you leverage? Is

973
00:48:07.840 --> 00:48:12.480
that your particular skill set that's giving you leverage? Is that your particular product that's

974
00:48:12.480 --> 00:48:16.880
giving you leverage? What is it that gives you leverage? Because your leverage determines the

975
00:48:16.880 --> 00:48:24.080
real power and determines your scalability in your business. So with these guys, like having

976
00:48:25.440 --> 00:48:31.840
crypto mining as a core in their business model, that's where the leverage of the system comes

977
00:48:31.840 --> 00:48:37.680
from, right? Yeah, well, see, they already had this token out there. It was already being traded

978
00:48:37.680 --> 00:48:43.840
on exchanges prior to them setting up the membership. And just that single point there,

979
00:48:43.840 --> 00:48:48.640
right, guys, so when it comes to cryptocurrencies, people can create cryptocurrencies, but just like

980
00:48:48.640 --> 00:48:53.520
you said before, people can create a cryptocurrency, but just because they've got a cryptocurrency,

981
00:48:53.520 --> 00:49:00.000
it's not necessarily got any value. The value is determined by how much people are willing to pay

982
00:49:00.000 --> 00:49:06.640
for it, you know, like value is, you know, a currency gets its value from actually our agreement

983
00:49:06.640 --> 00:49:12.240
with that, you know, like, if all of a sudden, I decide that I don't value New Zealand dollars,

984
00:49:12.240 --> 00:49:17.680
as much as I value other things, then the price in New Zealand dollars goes up and, you know,

985
00:49:17.680 --> 00:49:23.600
might be a good price in a cryptocurrency. But the point is that a currency, a cryptocurrency,

986
00:49:23.600 --> 00:49:29.600
it's that or any currency comes from mutual agreement, it comes from a whole collective,

987
00:49:29.600 --> 00:49:36.320
a whole community of people ascribing value to something. So if, when, what happens when

988
00:49:36.320 --> 00:49:43.200
a cryptocurrency goes on to an exchange is that there, it gets ascribed value. And so that's a

989
00:49:43.200 --> 00:49:48.480
huge thing. If you're fresh to the crypto space, if a cryptocurrency isn't yet on an exchange,

990
00:49:48.480 --> 00:49:53.040
it's kind of in this infancy space, where you can't actually change it for anything else,

991
00:49:53.040 --> 00:49:59.200
there's no ascribed value to, you know, by a vast community. But what you're talking about is

992
00:50:00.000 --> 00:50:06.160
and so when a cryptocurrency does hit an exchange that's a huge leverage point. So if you've got an

993
00:50:06.160 --> 00:50:13.680
exchange where your cryptocurrency can be exchanged and you've got the capacity to mine cryptocurrency

994
00:50:13.680 --> 00:50:19.360
that is like you're talking about it's a it's digital gold you can mine this crypto then you

995
00:50:19.360 --> 00:50:25.200
can take it to the exchange and you can trade it for cash just like and just like when they were

996
00:50:25.200 --> 00:50:31.680
gold mining right like they would mine gold and they would take it to an exchange it's exactly

997
00:50:31.680 --> 00:50:37.040
the same it doesn't change right and it's same with forex trading foreign exchange trading right

998
00:50:37.040 --> 00:50:43.440
you got traders out there yeah they've got a perceived value right yeah and that's why you

999
00:50:43.440 --> 00:50:47.200
know in our case the Aussie dollar goes up and down compared with the US and the Europe they're

1000
00:50:48.000 --> 00:50:56.160
normally give it yeah perceived value ascribed value yeah so here you are in your particular

1001
00:50:56.160 --> 00:51:01.040
setup and we'll kind of bring this to a close in a minute now but um you've got a system where

1002
00:51:01.040 --> 00:51:05.520
you buy membership into a community which is actually a mining community at the head

1003
00:51:05.520 --> 00:51:11.680
as a massive part of the community right yeah well that we get that blockchain as well right

1004
00:51:11.680 --> 00:51:15.760
don't get me wrong that's all part and parcel of it i know a lot more now than i did you know

1005
00:51:15.760 --> 00:51:23.040
seven months ago eight months ago yeah but uh but that's it we we acquire a membership

1006
00:51:23.040 --> 00:51:29.040
yeah we get educated and we get daily rewards and with those daily rewards

1007
00:51:29.840 --> 00:51:35.680
once it gets to you know 58 you a certain amount then we can actually use that within the system

1008
00:51:36.720 --> 00:51:39.840
don't have to go and trade it or anything but within the system to purchase another

1009
00:51:39.840 --> 00:51:48.080
you know to acquire another mini membership yeah and i call them rebonds yeah but i promise you

1010
00:51:48.880 --> 00:51:57.200
when you understand it rebonds are the ninth wonder of the world yeah and the ninth wonder

1011
00:51:57.200 --> 00:52:02.320
of the world like another way of thinking about rebonds in this context is compounding

1012
00:52:03.280 --> 00:52:11.520
value and this is a huge element of the velocity of money is to generate a dynamic of compounding

1013
00:52:11.520 --> 00:52:16.240
your returns or compounding your money so i mean you could actually take that

1014
00:52:16.800 --> 00:52:20.400
you know that uh reward and go and cash it in on exchange right

1015
00:52:22.480 --> 00:52:30.160
oh yeah yeah yeah so once you're in this crypto mining community that you're in you can do that

1016
00:52:30.240 --> 00:52:36.560
you get rewards which they are mining so they're mining this crypto they're mining they give you

1017
00:52:36.560 --> 00:52:44.000
the rewards you can cash it in or you can compound it now this uh this is what the elite understand

1018
00:52:44.000 --> 00:52:49.200
about money and this is why the elite have most of the money you know that's why they're called

1019
00:52:49.200 --> 00:52:55.200
the elite it's actually really revolves around one like this is one of the key elements of it

1020
00:52:55.200 --> 00:53:00.320
is that they don't eat their seed in a sense you like they they make sure that their money

1021
00:53:01.280 --> 00:53:07.200
produces a return and then that return multiplies and compounds and multiplies and compounds before

1022
00:53:07.200 --> 00:53:13.040
they ever even spend a dollar out of it so what that does just ensures that they have an ever

1023
00:53:13.040 --> 00:53:18.480
expanding ever increasing increasing treasury or capital and this is something that i would love

1024
00:53:18.480 --> 00:53:25.760
you to understand so much is create an ever increasing treasury in your world that will never

1025
00:53:25.760 --> 00:53:31.760
get smaller but will only ever multiply and so this is the beauty about the system that you've

1026
00:53:31.760 --> 00:53:38.320
got is it has massive leverage it's attached to one of the genius uh operations in the world right

1027
00:53:38.320 --> 00:53:43.120
now which is crypto mining which produces leverage on a on a cryptocurrency that's connected to

1028
00:53:43.120 --> 00:53:48.320
exchange so you can take that and you can and you can exchange it for any type of you know usdt

1029
00:53:48.320 --> 00:53:55.600
and then any other coin or currency that you want in the world uh which is genius or you can also

1030
00:53:55.600 --> 00:54:01.840
have the power of compounding it which then if you compound that let me just ask you this if you for

1031
00:54:01.840 --> 00:54:08.800
example if you compound your returns does it return to you more than just the 300 over 600 days

1032
00:54:12.480 --> 00:54:18.000
unpack that space yeah revise the ninth wonder of the world if compound interest is considered

1033
00:54:18.160 --> 00:54:24.720
the ape i promise you rebuys at the night what we are doing is not compound okay it's

1034
00:54:24.720 --> 00:54:33.040
beyond compound yeah okay because if you don't log in and physically do something so it's not

1035
00:54:33.040 --> 00:54:39.280
automated every day you gotta log in right whereas normally out there in the iQuadrant investment

1036
00:54:39.280 --> 00:54:43.920
world right you have a compound interest where you put money in you don't have to do anything

1037
00:54:43.920 --> 00:54:50.240
and it just grows that does not happen here okay we get a daily reward we want to make that big

1038
00:54:50.240 --> 00:54:55.280
distinction yeah that's good right it is not compounding yeah okay that's good to know but

1039
00:54:55.280 --> 00:54:59.760
i promise you if compounding is the eighth wonder of the world

1040
00:55:00.000 --> 00:55:01.620
revise at the night.

1041
00:55:01.620 --> 00:55:03.780
Okay, I love it, I love it.

1042
00:55:03.780 --> 00:55:06.780
But that's where you've got to sit down and look at it

1043
00:55:06.780 --> 00:55:08.740
and actually work it through.

1044
00:55:08.740 --> 00:55:12.060
And that's where my background on computer programs,

1045
00:55:12.060 --> 00:55:15.460
cashflow, budget, spreadsheets, and all that sort of stuff.

1046
00:55:15.460 --> 00:55:17.220
When I first put it together and started looking

1047
00:55:17.220 --> 00:55:18.380
at what happened to you, you know,

1048
00:55:18.380 --> 00:55:20.860
you put a certain amount in and you started doing,

1049
00:55:20.860 --> 00:55:22.660
you know, revise whenever you could.

1050
00:55:24.900 --> 00:55:27.140
I mean, I spent a day and a half doing it.

1051
00:55:27.140 --> 00:55:27.980
Yeah.

1052
00:55:27.980 --> 00:55:28.800
If someone wanted to ask me, you know,

1053
00:55:29.120 --> 00:55:29.960
and the only reason I did it

1054
00:55:29.960 --> 00:55:32.400
is someone asked me the question.

1055
00:55:32.400 --> 00:55:35.440
What had happened if I put, you know, 10K in?

1056
00:55:37.320 --> 00:55:39.000
I said, well, I don't know.

1057
00:55:39.000 --> 00:55:41.280
But I know you're going to get, you know,

1058
00:55:41.280 --> 00:55:46.080
revise enough to do a rebuy every day from day one.

1059
00:55:46.080 --> 00:55:46.920
And I'd talk about that.

1060
00:55:46.920 --> 00:55:48.080
He said, well, what's going to happen?

1061
00:55:48.080 --> 00:55:51.240
I said, I don't know, but I'll work it out.

1062
00:55:51.240 --> 00:55:53.720
So I spent a day and a half on a spreadsheet.

1063
00:55:53.720 --> 00:55:55.760
When I finally put it all together,

1064
00:55:55.760 --> 00:55:57.800
over 600 days, because I wanted to see what would happen

1065
00:55:57.800 --> 00:56:00.040
over 600 days, hit the button.

1066
00:56:00.040 --> 00:56:04.740
And my first response was, oh no, I've made a mistake.

1067
00:56:06.840 --> 00:56:08.600
I could not comprehend it.

1068
00:56:08.600 --> 00:56:09.440
Yeah.

1069
00:56:09.440 --> 00:56:10.400
I got a pretty good head to feet,

1070
00:56:10.400 --> 00:56:13.160
but I could not comprehend what was going to happen.

1071
00:56:13.160 --> 00:56:14.800
So I went back and then I realized

1072
00:56:15.720 --> 00:56:17.000
I haven't made a mistake.

1073
00:56:17.000 --> 00:56:18.680
This is actually what's going to happen.

1074
00:56:18.680 --> 00:56:19.640
Yeah.

1075
00:56:19.640 --> 00:56:21.520
Just absolutely mind blowing.

1076
00:56:22.760 --> 00:56:25.680
But, and it's happening.

1077
00:56:25.680 --> 00:56:26.520
We can see it.

1078
00:56:26.520 --> 00:56:28.520
Cause we got so many people out there and, you know,

1079
00:56:28.520 --> 00:56:31.040
I'm talking about what you were mentioning before,

1080
00:56:32.200 --> 00:56:34.600
completely different mindsets in each of the quadrants

1081
00:56:34.600 --> 00:56:36.960
from the E to the S's to the B's and the I's.

1082
00:56:36.960 --> 00:56:37.800
100%.

1083
00:56:37.800 --> 00:56:38.640
Yeah.

1084
00:56:38.640 --> 00:56:40.960
So, you know, this is one of the things that I've realized,

1085
00:56:40.960 --> 00:56:42.880
I've been good in the S quadrant, good in the B quadrant,

1086
00:56:42.880 --> 00:56:45.920
but now I've got to start thinking more in the S quadrant.

1087
00:56:45.920 --> 00:56:46.760
The I quadrant.

1088
00:56:46.760 --> 00:56:47.600
The I quadrant.

1089
00:56:47.600 --> 00:56:51.160
The I quadrant, right?

1090
00:56:51.160 --> 00:56:53.720
And so what's happened there is we've got a lot of people

1091
00:56:53.720 --> 00:56:55.000
that have looked at it and said, okay,

1092
00:56:55.000 --> 00:56:59.880
well, what if I preserve, you know,

1093
00:56:59.880 --> 00:57:04.720
pull out, do rebuys with 50%,

1094
00:57:04.720 --> 00:57:09.720
withdraw the other rebuy, the other rewards 50% each month.

1095
00:57:10.680 --> 00:57:11.520
Yeah.

1096
00:57:12.600 --> 00:57:15.200
And when they've looked at that, mind blowing.

1097
00:57:16.680 --> 00:57:19.360
It is doing exactly what you wanted before,

1098
00:57:19.360 --> 00:57:24.360
where you said you're preserving your seed, right?

1099
00:57:24.800 --> 00:57:29.160
In fact, it's increasing and the crop you're harvesting

1100
00:57:29.160 --> 00:57:31.160
each month is also increased.

1101
00:57:31.160 --> 00:57:32.000
Yeah.

1102
00:57:34.240 --> 00:57:35.560
Mind blowing.

1103
00:57:35.560 --> 00:57:36.400
Fantastic.

1104
00:57:36.400 --> 00:57:38.320
Hey, well, thank you so much for this.

1105
00:57:38.320 --> 00:57:40.200
I think I've got a couple more.

1106
00:57:40.200 --> 00:57:42.240
I better give you, I better drop a couple more questions.

1107
00:57:42.240 --> 00:57:43.080
So what happened for you?

1108
00:57:43.080 --> 00:57:46.880
You dropped 300 initially, and then after you saw this,

1109
00:57:46.880 --> 00:57:50.160
did that, and you realized the power of your rebuys

1110
00:57:50.160 --> 00:57:52.120
and the power of your compounding returns,

1111
00:57:52.120 --> 00:57:54.080
what did you, what was your response?

1112
00:57:54.760 --> 00:57:55.600
Did you say, hey, actually,

1113
00:57:55.600 --> 00:57:56.600
I want to be more a part of this community

1114
00:57:56.600 --> 00:57:57.800
or what did you do?

1115
00:57:58.920 --> 00:58:00.600
Yeah, well, I started sharing it with people.

1116
00:58:00.600 --> 00:58:02.760
That was the first thing, right?

1117
00:58:02.760 --> 00:58:05.880
When I, you know, gone through it and I believed,

1118
00:58:05.880 --> 00:58:09.080
you know, 100%, then I started sharing it, right?

1119
00:58:09.080 --> 00:58:10.280
And what happens when you share it,

1120
00:58:10.280 --> 00:58:11.720
you can accelerate the rate

1121
00:58:11.720 --> 00:58:13.960
at which they give you the rewards.

1122
00:58:13.960 --> 00:58:16.080
So you don't get any more, but they accelerate it,

1123
00:58:16.080 --> 00:58:19.960
which means you can then go and do these rebuys quicker.

1124
00:58:21.440 --> 00:58:23.240
And so instead of getting half a percent per day,

1125
00:58:23.320 --> 00:58:24.920
you get a much higher percentage.

1126
00:58:24.920 --> 00:58:26.080
Yeah.

1127
00:58:26.080 --> 00:58:30.400
And then the other thing I did was I ended up,

1128
00:58:30.400 --> 00:58:33.720
you know, personally acquiring much larger memberships.

1129
00:58:33.720 --> 00:58:34.680
Yeah.

1130
00:58:34.680 --> 00:58:36.520
You know, at different times,

1131
00:58:36.520 --> 00:58:39.080
and, you know, my wife's done the same thing

1132
00:58:39.080 --> 00:58:43.600
and, you know, she just can't believe it.

1133
00:58:43.600 --> 00:58:48.600
But, you know, it's all a happening thing, you know?

1134
00:58:48.760 --> 00:58:49.600
It's mind-blowing.

1135
00:58:49.600 --> 00:58:51.240
I've been lucky enough to have been very successful

1136
00:58:51.240 --> 00:58:53.240
in this industry for years, really.

1137
00:58:53.240 --> 00:58:55.040
We've never seen anything like this.

1138
00:58:55.040 --> 00:58:55.880
Yeah.

1139
00:58:55.880 --> 00:58:56.720
Never before.

1140
00:58:56.720 --> 00:58:57.560
And, you know, as a networker,

1141
00:58:57.560 --> 00:59:01.400
what I love is the fact that everybody wins, everybody.

1142
00:59:01.400 --> 00:59:02.800
No one loses.

1143
00:59:02.800 --> 00:59:03.640
Yeah.

1144
00:59:03.640 --> 00:59:04.480
Right?

1145
00:59:04.480 --> 00:59:08.760
They're all gonna get a benefit at least three times.

1146
00:59:09.840 --> 00:59:11.160
But if they're prepared to, you know,

1147
00:59:11.160 --> 00:59:13.640
log in and do these rebuys,

1148
00:59:13.640 --> 00:59:16.320
well then it's again and again and again.

1149
00:59:16.320 --> 00:59:19.720
And that's even 100% passive without introducing anyone.

1150
00:59:19.720 --> 00:59:20.800
Yeah.

1151
00:59:20.800 --> 00:59:21.640
Right?

1152
00:59:21.640 --> 00:59:23.400
And then once they do that,

1153
00:59:23.400 --> 00:59:25.320
then if they start introducing people,

1154
00:59:26.400 --> 00:59:29.600
well then that just accelerates the whole thing.

1155
00:59:29.600 --> 00:59:30.960
So we've never seen anything like it.

1156
00:59:30.960 --> 00:59:34.680
And what's happening now is because more people,

1157
00:59:34.680 --> 00:59:36.240
you know, this is what happened for me.

1158
00:59:36.240 --> 00:59:37.320
Initially they were talking about, you know,

1159
00:59:37.320 --> 00:59:38.720
getting 30 million people.

1160
00:59:41.360 --> 00:59:42.560
But initially we're thinking, okay,

1161
00:59:42.560 --> 00:59:45.520
well, how can they afford to do that?

1162
00:59:45.520 --> 00:59:46.360
Yeah.

1163
00:59:46.360 --> 00:59:48.160
And then when the penny finally drops,

1164
00:59:48.160 --> 00:59:51.040
that their only cost is the electricity and the computers.

1165
00:59:52.600 --> 00:59:54.880
I got a CEO, compliance department.

1166
00:59:54.880 --> 00:59:55.720
That's about it.

1167
00:59:57.400 --> 00:59:58.320
That's it.

1168
00:59:58.320 --> 00:59:59.160
Yeah.

1169
00:59:59.160 --> 01:00:00.400
That's the power of automation, eh?

1170
01:00:00.000 --> 01:00:08.560
and systems it's unbelievable and you know and running there that's it and seeing the other

1171
01:00:08.560 --> 01:00:15.120
thing to look at is as the value of the token that they give us increases of course they're

1172
01:00:15.120 --> 01:00:20.720
the ones holding the majority so guess what's happening to their value of their assets did

1173
01:00:20.720 --> 01:00:27.280
they help absolutely absolutely limited how many like a month yeah and i think this is i mean this

1174
01:00:27.280 --> 01:00:32.240
is the world of the investors and i think it's been really cool just talking through that whole

1175
01:00:32.240 --> 01:00:39.120
quadrant we'll finish with this i'll bring that um i'll bring that quadrant up again as a as a

1176
01:00:39.120 --> 01:00:50.000
finish for us um and then yeah so guys this is the cash flow quadrant that we were talking about

1177
01:00:50.000 --> 01:00:55.920
i'm going to share my screen um but this really i think is actually quite beautiful

1178
01:00:56.560 --> 01:01:03.520
trevor the journey that you've been on you know um you really weren't so much in the employee

1179
01:01:03.520 --> 01:01:08.720
space for that long but you were definitely in the self-employed we owned a job and you

1180
01:01:08.720 --> 01:01:14.240
you said at least 11 years you're in that space right yeah yeah and that was only numerous jobs

1181
01:01:14.240 --> 01:01:18.800
but they're all in this quadrant they're all this quadrant where i was a man magic yeah and

1182
01:01:18.800 --> 01:01:24.560
then you shifted and again that guys the thing that's that's key here is that before you shift

1183
01:01:24.560 --> 01:01:31.120
one of these quadrants you have to shift mindsets that's the key right so you shift mindsets you grow

1184
01:01:31.120 --> 01:01:35.680
you learn then it enables you to go become a business owner and now you can actually skip

1185
01:01:35.680 --> 01:01:41.360
this b1 you don't even have to even live in that b1 you can live here and that you can go straight

1186
01:01:41.360 --> 01:01:46.800
from self-employed or employee straight to investor if you can get some cash and it doesn't

1187
01:01:46.800 --> 01:01:52.320
have to be what trevor's doing it can be anything but this is where you want to make the transition

1188
01:01:52.320 --> 01:02:00.880
to um you can be an employee uh that is as an investor and then you can do really well i actually

1189
01:02:00.880 --> 01:02:06.080
know a guy you know in tiano where i used to live and i could tell this guy he just worked at the

1190
01:02:06.080 --> 01:02:10.640
petrol station right but he was always really happy and i could just tell he had abundance

1191
01:02:10.640 --> 01:02:14.720
mindsets i was like dude what else have you got going on because i know that you're not just

1192
01:02:14.720 --> 01:02:20.800
working this uh you know this job he didn't need to work in the job because he actually told me oh

1193
01:02:20.800 --> 01:02:27.360
he was from ireland and he'd invested in the um an airport there years ago and the airport was

1194
01:02:27.360 --> 01:02:31.840
like his investments from the airport they were crushing it you know like he was driving

1195
01:02:31.840 --> 01:02:37.520
new trucks and all sorts of things and he just worked the uh at the petrol station really

1196
01:02:37.520 --> 01:02:44.000
just because he enjoyed hanging around people uh but it's this so you can go from employee to

1197
01:02:44.000 --> 01:02:49.040
investor or whatever as soon as you can get some capital um you have that capacity so i think that

1198
01:02:49.040 --> 01:02:54.720
guys this has been just fantastic um having trevor here and sharing his journey all the way from

1199
01:02:54.720 --> 01:03:02.560
floppy disks through to the blockchain trevor has uh been riding that train which is very cool

1200
01:03:02.560 --> 01:03:08.240
um so thank you so much for that and for anyone who's interested in you know learning more about

1201
01:03:08.240 --> 01:03:13.840
the the mining community that trevor's a part of we've got a real simple system so again here this

1202
01:03:13.840 --> 01:03:21.280
is what raising royalty does is we create automated systems so what you can do is there's a link in

1203
01:03:21.280 --> 01:03:28.560
the description of this video if you want to actually book a call in with our raising royalty

1204
01:03:28.560 --> 01:03:33.600
team see we do automated systems that's what we love you can book a call with our team you can

1205
01:03:33.600 --> 01:03:39.280
book in there and you can actually um let me stop this share uh i'll say as well that this is

1206
01:03:39.280 --> 01:03:43.200
available everywhere in the world which is really cool because not all these opportunities are

1207
01:03:44.080 --> 01:03:49.760
you can book in a call with one of our team and you can hear more about that specifically

1208
01:03:49.760 --> 01:03:53.360
and they can just kind of break this opportunity down for you if you want to know some of the nuts

1209
01:03:53.360 --> 01:03:58.080
and bolts another thing that's really great is trevor's going to be coming back for us in the 40

1210
01:03:58.080 --> 01:04:03.680
day mentorship program so if you're interested in the 40 day mentorship program we do have a good

1211
01:04:03.680 --> 01:04:08.720
deal uh on that and there are links in the description of this video if you want to secure

1212
01:04:08.720 --> 01:04:13.600
your space on that and it'll be great to have trevor come back talk more investing mindsets

1213
01:04:13.600 --> 01:04:19.760
talk more about this um opportunity um but trevor thank you so much it's been a real honor and a

1214
01:04:19.840 --> 01:04:28.640
delight my pleasure benji i've been happy thank you maybe my last maybe my last question

1215
01:04:30.000 --> 01:04:36.320
is uh oh do i have a couple more i've definitely got one you i heard you telling me a story a

1216
01:04:36.320 --> 01:04:40.320
little while ago about you went out to dinner and you talked to someone about whether or not they'd

1217
01:04:40.320 --> 01:04:46.080
been you know had anything to do with crypto before and they said uh no i don't know anything

1218
01:04:46.080 --> 01:04:53.360
about it and you had an interesting response do you remember the story you did uh you were

1219
01:04:53.360 --> 01:04:59.760
telling me about how then your response to him was how he just got paid see that that's

1220
01:05:00.000 --> 01:05:02.560
when it started to become real for me

1221
01:05:02.560 --> 01:05:06.760
was when I actually set up through one of the exchanges

1222
01:05:09.040 --> 01:05:12.640
a credit card, which is crypto-based, mastercard.

1223
01:05:12.640 --> 01:05:14.040
So it's accepted anywhere in the world

1224
01:05:14.040 --> 01:05:16.040
that mastercard's accepted.

1225
01:05:16.040 --> 01:05:16.880
Yeah.

1226
01:05:16.880 --> 01:05:19.760
And what I've done is I've taken some of my rewards,

1227
01:05:20.940 --> 01:05:24.600
right, converted it, you know, to the USDT,

1228
01:05:24.600 --> 01:05:27.080
sent it to this card and it's on my card.

1229
01:05:27.080 --> 01:05:29.320
And so then I had it all set up on my phone.

1230
01:05:31.000 --> 01:05:31.840
Yeah.

1231
01:05:31.840 --> 01:05:34.040
And I've never had a credit card on a phone before.

1232
01:05:34.040 --> 01:05:37.040
I'd seen lots of people using it, right?

1233
01:05:37.040 --> 01:05:39.600
And so what happened is I got it all set up

1234
01:05:39.600 --> 01:05:42.800
and then in the end, you can use it anywhere.

1235
01:05:42.800 --> 01:05:45.880
So I went out with my, you know, brother-in-law,

1236
01:05:45.880 --> 01:05:49.080
we got a big feed of coral trout and prawns

1237
01:05:49.080 --> 01:05:54.080
and I paid for it with the rewards, basically.

1238
01:05:54.240 --> 01:05:55.080
Just waved your phone.

1239
01:05:55.080 --> 01:05:57.080
I waved it over here.

1240
01:05:57.080 --> 01:05:59.120
And that's when it became real to me.

1241
01:06:00.560 --> 01:06:01.800
All of a sudden I realised, man,

1242
01:06:01.800 --> 01:06:06.360
I really have got this money-making machine on my computer,

1243
01:06:07.680 --> 01:06:11.280
which I can then use my phone to buy coral trout

1244
01:06:11.280 --> 01:06:13.600
and the most delicious prawns I've ever had.

1245
01:06:14.920 --> 01:06:15.760
Yeah.

1246
01:06:15.760 --> 01:06:18.280
That's when it became real, right?

1247
01:06:18.280 --> 01:06:20.280
Because otherwise, you know, I'm sure I'd done a withdrawal,

1248
01:06:20.280 --> 01:06:22.800
but that's all just figures on a computer screen still.

1249
01:06:22.800 --> 01:06:23.640
Yeah.

1250
01:06:23.640 --> 01:06:25.120
You know, you'd go into your bank account, blah, blah,

1251
01:06:25.120 --> 01:06:26.360
but you'd never seen anything.

1252
01:06:26.360 --> 01:06:27.200
Yeah, yeah.

1253
01:06:27.200 --> 01:06:30.120
And then you get to eat the prawns and the coral trout.

1254
01:06:30.120 --> 01:06:30.960
Come on.

1255
01:06:33.120 --> 01:06:35.160
That's when it became real.

1256
01:06:35.160 --> 01:06:39.360
And it's just a whole new world out there.

1257
01:06:39.360 --> 01:06:40.200
Yeah.

1258
01:06:40.200 --> 01:06:42.800
You know, now I've actually got a physical card

1259
01:06:42.800 --> 01:06:44.240
for the same system, right?

1260
01:06:44.240 --> 01:06:45.080
Yeah.

1261
01:06:45.080 --> 01:06:47.320
And it only arrived yesterday.

1262
01:06:47.320 --> 01:06:48.720
That's very cool.

1263
01:06:48.720 --> 01:06:49.560
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1264
01:06:49.560 --> 01:06:50.400
So it's real.

1265
01:06:50.400 --> 01:06:51.240
I mean, it's real.

1266
01:06:51.240 --> 01:06:52.080
That's what I'm saying to you.

1267
01:06:52.080 --> 01:06:53.160
It's real.

1268
01:06:53.160 --> 01:06:56.200
You know, you put the rewards in, daily rewards,

1269
01:06:56.200 --> 01:06:57.040
you get them out.

1270
01:06:57.040 --> 01:07:00.680
In the end, you can use it to do whatever you like.

1271
01:07:00.680 --> 01:07:01.520
Beautiful.

1272
01:07:01.520 --> 01:07:03.680
And anything that you just share as a closing thought

1273
01:07:03.680 --> 01:07:05.480
with the guys that you think would be just great,

1274
01:07:05.480 --> 01:07:08.400
great for people to know about?

1275
01:07:08.400 --> 01:07:10.520
Yeah, look, it's so exciting

1276
01:07:10.520 --> 01:07:12.840
that we ended up with that cashflow quadrant.

1277
01:07:12.840 --> 01:07:13.680
Yeah.

1278
01:07:13.680 --> 01:07:15.680
Because I promise you, all of life is a mindset.

1279
01:07:15.680 --> 01:07:16.560
Yeah.

1280
01:07:16.560 --> 01:07:17.880
We all have ups and downs,

1281
01:07:17.880 --> 01:07:20.880
but each of the quadrants is a different mindset.

1282
01:07:20.880 --> 01:07:21.720
Yeah.

1283
01:07:21.720 --> 01:07:22.560
Right?

1284
01:07:22.560 --> 01:07:25.560
And it definitely is a case of Romans 12 to,

1285
01:07:25.560 --> 01:07:28.520
be transformed by the renewing of your mind.

1286
01:07:28.520 --> 01:07:29.360
Yeah.

1287
01:07:29.360 --> 01:07:33.080
And so you can get into this, put money in,

1288
01:07:33.080 --> 01:07:34.280
but never change the mindset.

1289
01:07:34.280 --> 01:07:37.240
That's why it's so important to plug into the system,

1290
01:07:37.240 --> 01:07:40.240
the videos, the training sessions we have.

1291
01:07:40.240 --> 01:07:43.040
That's not just to learn, but that's to change the mindset.

1292
01:07:43.040 --> 01:07:44.320
Mm-hmm.

1293
01:07:44.320 --> 01:07:45.160
That's what happens.

1294
01:07:45.160 --> 01:07:47.000
Because otherwise, and we see it happen.

1295
01:07:47.000 --> 01:07:49.480
You get in there, you start getting your rewards every day,

1296
01:07:49.480 --> 01:07:51.040
and it's all building up, building up, building up,

1297
01:07:51.040 --> 01:07:53.320
but then you never bother talking to anybody.

1298
01:07:53.320 --> 01:07:54.160
Yeah.

1299
01:07:55.000 --> 01:07:57.040
And so you can go from the E quadrant

1300
01:07:57.040 --> 01:08:00.280
by setting up a little business, network business,

1301
01:08:01.760 --> 01:08:03.760
use the systems that we have in place,

1302
01:08:03.760 --> 01:08:06.480
so that you can go from the S to the B.

1303
01:08:06.480 --> 01:08:07.320
Yeah.

1304
01:08:07.320 --> 01:08:11.200
And then with the reward going in and becoming an I.

1305
01:08:11.200 --> 01:08:12.160
Yeah.

1306
01:08:12.160 --> 01:08:15.000
And you go through that whole thing.

1307
01:08:15.000 --> 01:08:15.840
Yeah.

1308
01:08:15.840 --> 01:08:18.000
But you can actually do it all.

1309
01:08:18.000 --> 01:08:22.319
And to maximize your returns, you're gonna do it all.

1310
01:08:22.319 --> 01:08:23.399
100%.

1311
01:08:23.560 --> 01:08:24.880
And I think-

1312
01:08:24.880 --> 01:08:26.319
Initially, you've got to be the magic,

1313
01:08:26.319 --> 01:08:28.000
but then you use the system.

1314
01:08:28.000 --> 01:08:31.080
I think that's something that with raising royalty,

1315
01:08:31.080 --> 01:08:32.720
we really want to help people understand

1316
01:08:32.720 --> 01:08:37.560
is that royalty have investor mindsets.

1317
01:08:37.560 --> 01:08:40.160
There's nowhere in the world where you'll see royalty

1318
01:08:40.160 --> 01:08:41.880
that don't have investor mindsets,

1319
01:08:41.880 --> 01:08:45.240
because the only way to disciple nations

1320
01:08:45.240 --> 01:08:47.880
is to understand the velocity of money

1321
01:08:47.880 --> 01:08:51.680
and to understand how to leverage and scalability

1322
01:08:51.680 --> 01:08:56.680
and how to leverage money to actually multiply itself.

1323
01:08:57.680 --> 01:09:00.600
And it's those investor mindsets that-

1324
01:09:00.600 --> 01:09:02.840
I mean, yeah, it's those investor mindsets

1325
01:09:02.840 --> 01:09:04.840
that really do disciple nations.

1326
01:09:04.840 --> 01:09:09.000
And so, yeah, it's been an honor having you with us, Trevor,

1327
01:09:09.000 --> 01:09:11.399
and such a really a unique thing as well,

1328
01:09:11.399 --> 01:09:13.120
just to be able to talk about floppy disks

1329
01:09:13.120 --> 01:09:15.080
and blockchain and the same conversation

1330
01:09:15.080 --> 01:09:16.399
and a real inspiration, I think,

1331
01:09:16.399 --> 01:09:19.800
to a lot of our older people in the community

1332
01:09:19.800 --> 01:09:23.120
to see how well you've done in all those transitions.

1333
01:09:23.120 --> 01:09:24.120
So thank you so much.

1334
01:09:24.120 --> 01:09:25.120
Would you pray for us?

1335
01:09:25.120 --> 01:09:27.359
And then we'll sign off for the session.

1336
01:09:28.359 --> 01:09:30.960
Well, Lord, I just want to thank you for a wonderful session.

1337
01:09:30.960 --> 01:09:32.680
And you certainly guided us.

1338
01:09:32.680 --> 01:09:35.800
I just hope that the words we've shared

1339
01:09:35.800 --> 01:09:37.319
have been able to hit people out there

1340
01:09:37.319 --> 01:09:40.319
that you want to hear this message, Lord,

1341
01:09:40.319 --> 01:09:42.160
just as you wanted me to hear the message.

1342
01:09:42.160 --> 01:09:45.720
You send extra people to show it to me again and again.

1343
01:09:45.720 --> 01:09:48.680
But Lord, I just ask that you open the hearts and the minds

1344
01:09:48.680 --> 01:09:51.040
to everybody that's been listening today.

1345
01:09:51.040 --> 01:09:53.000
And thank you for Benji and raising royalty

1346
01:09:53.000 --> 01:09:54.400
and all the work they're doing, Lord,

1347
01:09:54.400 --> 01:09:56.520
because it is absolutely phenomenal.

1348
01:09:56.520 --> 01:09:58.200
And it's such a pleasure to be,

1349
01:09:58.200 --> 01:10:00.320
and an honor to be a part of this program.

1350
01:10:00.000 --> 01:10:01.000
Amen.

1351
01:10:01.000 --> 01:10:07.320
Thank you so much, Trevor, and we'll see you in the mentorship program, which is going

1352
01:10:07.320 --> 01:10:08.320
to be very exciting.

1353
01:10:08.320 --> 01:10:09.320
So bless you and we'll catch you soon, guys.

1354
01:10:09.320 --> 01:10:10.320
We'll see you in the next session.

1355
01:10:10.320 --> 01:10:11.320
See ya.

1356
01:10:11.320 --> 01:10:12.320
Bye.

1357
01:10:12.320 --> 01:10:12.320