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Well welcome.
I am so glad you're here.
You know, today we are really in for a treat.
It's a little bit different.
Sometimes we talk spirituality, health.
Today is going to be a really fun business one that's going to probably have all of those
things in it as well.
But if you have an online presence, you have a website or social media, or you're thinking
about having online presence, you are in for a treat.
One of my favorite sayings is we don't know what we don't know.
And when it comes to you being online, what you don't know can really cause a challenge
down the road.
So today you're going to get to hear from Cindy Jacks.
Cindy, I am so glad you're here on the show.
You are just a wealth of information.
And I like the way you describe yourself.
You say you help kingdom entrepreneurs grow an online presence without like avoiding the
land.
What is it?
Avoiding the technical landmines?
What is it that you do?
Tell us more about it.
It's this innovative solution to what a problem that I just see in the industry, which is
everything is segmented and Christian businesses, kingdom businesses are being derailed time
after time after time by these technology gaps.
People are being asked to do things that they don't understand.
They're being required to make decisions that require an understanding of technical terms.
And it's making people not reach who it is they're supposed to.
Give me an example.
What might they face?
What's some of these landmines?
What are some of these struggles that they might face?
Just even at the beginning, like the way that there's a ripple effect, right?
So a person thinks I'm just supposed to make a logo.
And then they think, well, it's pretty.
I like pink and I like swirly lines.
And so they make a logo like that because it represents them.
And they never did all the hard work at the beginning to really figure out who the client
is because it really doesn't matter if they like pink, right?
It matters on who they're targeting.
And I think most people think they know who their ideal client is, but they really haven't
worked with someone to just narrow it down so specific that they know exactly where that
person hangs out.
What do they like?
What colors do they like?
What draws them?
What kind of public persona?
Where can we find them, right?
Because all of that stuff's going to affect how we do a logo and branding.
But sure, you can find someone to do your logo.
But the next thing is you go to a web designer and the web designer says, you know, I need
your logo.
I need this kind of file.
I need a JPEG.
I need a vector file.
I need this.
What's your hex codes of the colors that you use?
And so you need somebody who's going to prepare the client to go to the web designer.
And also just on the tech side, the web designer's stuck trying to work within the pink logo,
right?
And so you're already now created an issue right from the start.
And then the web designer, who isn't connected to the graphic artist, doesn't really have
a commitment to do anything other than design a pretty website.
So it's almost like they're getting like tighter and tighter handcuffs I was seeing
as you're talking.
It's like it starts out like, hmm, I like pink.
I think I'll get that.
And now, oh, I need a website.
Okay, I hire a web person.
But that web person now cannot fully reach their ideal client or do the best job because
they've already got a limitation based on the logo that was chosen.
Right.
And it gets much worse as you go down the line because that's just kind of pretty, right?
Okay, okay.
Now you have someone who has to develop the website, right?
This is all lovely and beautiful.
And if you can figure out what pictures you need, that's great.
But when you get to the person who's developing, if you don't have someone who is committed
to creating an excellent product and who will give you a design, a platform that you can
grow with.
So, you know, sometimes they just put you in this little tiny thing and think that it's,
you know, the point is like.
On the back end is where you manipulate things to be found on Google.
It's where you create backups and security and malware,
so if your site goes down, you can immediately fix it.
It's where you get the quality that things actually load quickly
and all of those fine nuances.
If you have someone who just makes it look pretty on the front
and has no accountability for the back end,
then the client has to work with an IT support
trying to explain things that they don't even know what the words mean
to explain what this developer, who wasn't held accountable by anyone
because the client doesn't know any better,
because they're like, oh, that's a pretty site.
How common is that?
How common is it that someone makes a pretty site
and they're not thinking about all these things,
I like to say, under the hood, right?
Like the engine under the hood.
Because who would even think about that if you're not a web developer?
Again, we don't know what we don't know.
Who would even think about that?
And so the person getting the website,
yeah, I got a pretty website, it looks good,
I like the way it's pink and it's got swirls, we're good, right?
So how often does that happen?
I think it happens all the time because I think that consumers don't really,
they don't get the big picture, and so they're looking for bargains
and they're looking for I can do it myself.
It's that other thing that just really I feel like people believe
that because you can read about it online, they should learn it
and not understand that this stuff is really complex and technical
and if it's not integrated.
And it can end up costing them so much more time and money
and limiting their reach or limiting how their business can grow.
And so it's really going to depend on the ethics of the web developer
at how well they do.
But then they're gone.
And then you just have it and you dump it on the hosting person
and then the person at the hosting company asks the customer,
well, do you want this, and do you want this, and do you want this,
and do you want this, and it's like just click randomly.
They don't know what it means.
And so you can end up in a situation where the person is paying a fortune
to host it, and yet when the IT support guy is talking to the customer
and they say the whole thing crashed, can you back it up?
And the guy's like, well, we don't have one for like four days
and then the one before that is like 14 days earlier.
Like the most basic fundamental thing of is it getting backed up
isn't even happening.
But the big picture and my solution really what I just believe is so necessary
is that you have one person who's overseeing that,
who puts it all under one umbrella and knows they already have the files from,
they already have the brand guide, they already have the stuff for the logo,
they understand as a designer what's necessary for the customer.
The developer, the person, the company, my company is holding the developer
accountable because I know what it's like under the hood.
I know what it looks like and what it doesn't.
Then you have someone who's making sure that the client gets ranked on Google
so they're found.
If you aren't promoting your domain, then Google's going to send your mail,
your email to the junk folder.
It's like there's all of these parts.
Well, all these working parts that the average person doesn't think about.
They're either trying to do it themselves and probably really messing it up
or they're piecemealing it out and subcontracting it out
without any of the people involved talking to each other.
I know you personally, obviously, as your coach,
and I know you're pretty passionate about this.
Tell me what fires up the passion.
What is it?
I know you've shared with me how you feel like people are getting taken advantage of.
Tell me a little bit about that.
The number one thing that just drives me, and I believe it's why God put this on my heart,
is you have people called by God.
They are called by God to fulfill a mission, to serve the world,
to make the world bring something that only they know how to do,
and they get derailed over and over and over and over again.
At each moment that they're derailed, God's kingdom is not advancing.
That the enemy wins every single time.
That they're like, well, I'll just do my website for $100 online,
and then they spend all day doing it, and then they don't know how to promote it.
Just all of these things that derail them.
They're not doing what they're called to do.
They're not living out their calling.
They're not.
I love the beginning of your mission where you say,
I help kingdom entrepreneurs fulfill their calling.
Without the technical landmines.
You describe some of those.
There's the mess connecting in between.
There's the time and energy sitting on hold with whoever you got your website from.
Trying to fix it. I think it's an important work. So your company
TNK solutions is an umbrella that walks them from their ideal client
Yeah, all the way step by step their branding
Yeah, their online presence in a way that's going to attract their ideal client their privacy their security
You're you're really a one-stop shop. It's not you doing it all you've got a whole team, but
you're overseeing and making sure that
Yeah, it's the best solution that I could come up with I mean it seems so necessary
right, and there's just little ways that the industry just takes advantage of people like I'm thinking of one of my
Clients before I had my company set up
She's like well, I'll just host it on this one platform that charges a dollar a month for the first year
Then it's $12 a month
And so I spend two hours on some guy in India doing whatever to set it up
Get all the way through get it hosted and then they say oh for $70 you can have it so it's secure
So you're already stuck and then you're gonna have that lock unlocked and everyone's gonna say that and it's an accounting firm, right?
What they thought was a dollar really has a 70 back end if they want to be safe and as a person who knows the
Coding I understand like I just react emotionally because it's a super short line of code and they get it for free
so that company is
Charging for something that they don't pay anything for so they're luring people in and then their customer support if it takes two hours to even
Get their domain transferred and their website moved there
They're gonna spend forever just trying to fix whatever error the developer created that is just gone in the wind, right?
Wow, so wow, that's why so let's back up a little bit about you
So, you know
You're you definitely speak geek and you definitely understand all of this stuff and you definitely know how to how to make the entrepreneur
Not have to have all these headaches and all these price tags, but let's back up a little bit to you
What how did you start this business? What what led you to even have this business? I
Guess dealing with one
frustrating
website after another because I ended up trying to design something but the
Technical stuff was so messed up that I spent I don't know
5060 hours trying to fix this disaster just to make it function and with each of my wasted hours
You know this tension just built and built and built and I'm seeing you know, my friends
Getting ripped off with the $70 and I'm seeing at the same time all these life coaches who are telling me
well, you know I tried to get online but I didn't know what the resolution of a picture meant and so I didn't know how
To do it. So I just gave up or you know, I don't or even when I ask my client
What do they need and I'm like, do you need a domain like domain URL as a cell, you know?
Just these basic things in their eyes just glaze over and I'm like this is important
You know, this is important that that people should not be worried about things that can take I mean
I've done this for a decade. It took a long time to learn it. Yeah
and
so, you know it it's really challenging to try to do their calling whether they're a coach or a healer or an
entrepreneur and
Try to be their own. I like to think it's like trying to be your own dentist or something, right?
I mean, yeah, I guess I could study dentistry
But it's it's a little bit challenged to really do that and in the end
I think that they save so much it may look at the front like well, I can't invest like that
But they're actually like you gave the example the dollar to the 70 they're paying on the back end without any choice
Yeah and being slowed down
Dramatically. Well, I think that TNK solutions starting and their offices is an incredible
miracle story and
So for those of you, you know listening to Cindy, you know, like I said, she speaks geek really really well
Geekies, what do you call that? But I said, you know, what's amazing is her heart for God her passion for God and
One of the things that I have really come to love about
Cindy is her bedrock faith that God will provide
Even when you you can't you don't know where it's going to come from
There's one thing that Cindy will say to you time and time again. She'll say
I don't know but God will provide and
boy, did he when it comes to your offices and
So, how did you come to have this faith that God would provide and you use an interesting word?
And I want to have you share somewhere you you follow the bet the breadcrumbs
I think you said can can you share how did your faith that God will just provide?
Because, you know, we're in a pandemic right now.
Right.
And you opened your business in the middle of a pandemic.
You leased big offices in the middle of a pandemic, OK?
Talk to us about that, because this
is a time when the news and fear is saying, hey, close down,
back up, save.
And on the contrary, you're just blossoming and expanding
and new clients and all of this.
Talk to us about that.
Well, it's hard to say exactly where it started, right?
But there's absolutely no doubt that God talks to us.
And we, in general, people don't believe
that it's that voice.
And so my number one checkmark about whether it's
God in the beginning of the conversation is my response
is, yeah, but.
Cindy, you should rent an office.
Yeah, but.
Let me tell you all the reasons why you shouldn't.
But what cracks me up about the story
of this particular office, I mean,
there's just so many levels of it that's funny.
But it's such a great example of how God,
if we don't tell him what we want,
he doesn't even have a place to start.
But once he does know what you want,
he gets a kick out of blowing your mind, really.
And so I came up with this idea that I was like,
oh, I'm going to rent an office and I'm
going to paint this big room green
and I'm going to have people that are coaches come in
and we're going to videotape them
and then we'll get it edited and we can put them online.
And that's my vision, but it's huge for me.
It's a huge vision.
And it's a huge stepping out.
I'll start my own business.
And so long story short, I end up
being led to these particular buildings that I'm in.
And when I walked up, there's these beautiful fountains
and it just had this feeling.
And I got the number from the property manager
and I left saying, God, I want to work here.
This just feels right.
I want to work here.
And so I talked to the CFO and I said, well,
I just need one room.
I need an office to work in and then
I need one room that I can paint green and do my filming.
And he's like, well, I kind of have,
we have a place, we have a filming studio
so we could see if you can use it, right?
So these people, I come to find out
that it's owned by a Christian college, the two office
buildings.
And not only that, but the day after the CFO gives me
a tour of the building, the chancellor comes to him
and says, oh, I've been praying and I
feel like God is telling me we should
open these empty spaces up to Christian businesses.
And so you're pulling up on the outside saying, oh God,
this is perfect.
This is where I want my office.
And over here, because I love divine appointments.
It's one of my favorite miracles.
And so you're being prepared with this vision,
coming to this building, this is where I want to be.
In the meantime, the chancellor is
being prepared that he wants kingdom businesses here.
And then you meet.
Yep, we meet.
And the humor is, to me, the funny part
is, I said to God, I want to do video studio.
I got a great idea.
And he's like, oh, you want to see a video studio?
OK, I'll give you a video studio.
It's like a $100,000 video studio with, to me,
it's like the cameras that slide.
To me, that is just so awesome.
But the thing is this, you asked about breadcrumbs, right?
And I keep track of these in a journal.
But they're the stories where he asks you to do something,
but it's not outrageous.
It's not a super hard thing to do.
So there was this time that my daughter, my husband's
taking my daughter to this Valentine's Day dance.
And the two days before, my husband's like, well,
her dress matches my tie, right?
And then at that moment, I realized I don't even
have a dress, right?
And so my girlfriend's like, I have a dress she can wear.
So I don't do anything till the day before.
And it turns out she's got this red velvet dress
with Santa fur on it.
So I'm going, she can't wear that.
She'll look like Mrs. Claus.
So anyhow, the point is that I am just down to the wire, right?
And it's not quite Easter.
And so there are no dresses left over from Christmas.
And I go into TJ Maxx, because it's
up the street from my girlfriend after she showed me
Mrs. Claus' outfit.
And I'm in there, and I'm looking,
and there's no dresses.
And I'm just going, this is a disaster.
What are we going to do?
And I kept hearing, go to the toddler section.
Go to the toddler section.
And of course, I'm with my, yeah, right, yeah.
But we just have this ongoing dialogue of,
instead of me just going, you said go to the toddler section.
And I rush over.
I'm like, looking through all the dresses.
And then finally, I go.
Go to the toddler section because God is relentless.
And in the middle of the nine month section of clothes
is hanging this one dress.
And that was the time when Frozen,
she was maybe five and Frozen was just the absolute dress,
you know, like everything.
And so here's a dress with a hoop skirt,
you know, hoop skirts.
You can't be off by this much if they don't fit.
So I buy this dress going, oh, my goodness.
I take it home and Caitlin and her friend,
they saw the dress at first.
I walked by my girlfriend and she's like,
you've got to be kidding me. Right.
And I show it to the girls and they're like, oh, right.
And it fits her perfect. It's perfect. Perfect. Perfect.
So he does that. Right. Undeniable.
It's God. Right.
I mean, why is there an Elsa dress
hanging in the middle of the nine month section
that fits my daughter? Perfect.
So when he says, hey, I think you should just go sign a lease
for four years.
And it's like you've done so many of those
and proven yourself breadcrumb after breadcrumb
after breadcrumb, you know you're on the right track.
Do you think so? So you journal the miracles,
you journal each these breadcrumbs,
these answers to prayers. Right.
I'm thinking Hansel Gretel, these breadcrumbs.
God's just like leading you along the way.
Yeah. Do you think that this has caused your faith to grow
because you're actually recording them?
You're actually like you you're able to look back
and see so many.
Do you think that that has caused your faith to grow?
It it helps remind me.
Yeah, because I think I've just learned mindset is everything.
And it's a daily practice.
It's a daily battle to keep your mindset where it belongs.
And so to just be able to to skim down that list and go,
oh, that was provided for and that was provided for.
And but what's funny is like we're like Israelites. Right.
It's like you gave me manna every single day
for the last however many days.
But are you going to feed me today? I could start today.
Like, is it really going to come? Right.
So we still question. We see these miracles
and we still question.
And yet, Cindy, you know, people would say
this was a really a leap of faith.
I mean, you know, you were at a home being mom
and you signed a lease before you had your first client.
Yes, I did. And and what did God do?
Oh, like three days before the rent is due.
I'm just going, I don't know how to pay the rent.
And the mail lady knocks on my door on Saturday afternoon
and she's like, I think you mentioned
you were looking for a check.
So here it is, was able to deposit it, pay the first month's rent.
Second month, I don't know how I'm going to pay the rent. Right.
I don't know how I have the money to grow the business.
The client comes by. She pursues me. Right.
I don't even try to sell anything.
And that's covered the next one.
I think I have enough to pay rent this next time.
And after that, what would you say?
So your faith has has really grown.
What would you say?
This is a we're in a national crisis pandemic.
There's a lot of people afraid.
There's a lot of people confused.
There's a lot of people financially very frightened.
Yeah. What what advice?
What would you say to the woman watching this,
the entrepreneur watching this that wants to step forward
and build their business, but is scared, what would you say?
I would say there's two there's two stages and one is healing. Right.
And I think God tends to the broken hearted.
And I think it's very hard or maybe not even necessary to step out
while you're still in this in a stage of recovery, of healing.
And that if that's where you are to just sit still
and hold that pain and let God come and minister to it.
I feel like people just want to keep going, keep going, keep going.
And they need courage to go to those spaces
that where the darkness lives inside them and let God heal them.
But once that's done, there is a space where you, you know,
you're scarred from the battles, but you're healed.
And God has a plan for you.
And every single bad thing that's ever happened to you, every single one of them.
God can just use it for good, like really, really use it
because it becomes your greatest strength. Yeah. Right.
And and he uses it as your calling.
Do you know what I mean?
He takes those spaces, heals you, purifies and strengthens you
and then sets you on a path.
And so if you are on a path and God is saying, get there and you go,
well, I don't know what my logo should look like or I'm scared.
In that moment, the evil that broke you
and harmed you is still winning, right?
Trust. Right.
And the thing that's funny is God, God
He's just waiting to bless us.
Do you know what I mean?
Like really, he genuinely does love giving us gifts
that are way more than you could even imagine, right?
And he gets a kick out of it.
Like, oh, you want a green screen room?
Okay, well, we'll give you, and that's not me.
I'm not special.
He just doesn't.
And if we listen and go to the nine month toddler section,
there's the dress.
If we make the phone call,
oh, suddenly there's that $100 million, not 100 million,
but maybe whatever loan you needed.
Or, you know, if you listen, if you really listen,
he's always talking.
He's always telling you what to do next.
And we don't do it.
People don't do it
because they think God doesn't care about that.
Well, that's just so not true, right?
So really the process of healing,
and you've been through a lot of healing in your life.
You had a very difficult childhood.
That's probably a whole nother TV show.
But, you know, you're speaking from the heart.
You know what it is
to have to go through very deep, deep, deep healing.
So you're not just speaking some kind of like
little euphemism to them or something, right?
So healing, and then this trust that God is good
and recording his goodness, right?
Which of course is very biblical.
If you remember what God would do,
he would have them make a pile of the rocks, you know,
to remind of like the victories.
And the kids would say, dad, what's this pile of rocks?
Well, this is when God did this.
You know, dad, what's this?
Well, this is when God...
So, you know, God desires us to memorialize these things.
And, you know, it says we overcome.
We overcome, we're overcomers.
We're more than conquerors, we're overcomers.
We overcome by the blood of the lamb, what Jesus did,
and the word of our testimony.
And so these miracles are both fun to experience
and to document, but it's in sharing these miracles
that it increases the faith of other people.
And so this is how we overcome, by the blood of the lamb
and the word of our testimony.
And I think one of the fun backstories,
I get to share kind of a backstory on this one,
is that as Cindy made this big shift,
and she made a big mindset shift to be here
and a spiritual leap to be here.
As she made that shift and she moves into her office,
of course, some of you know the story of Prosper TV.
God spoke to me in the shower
and gave me the vision for Prosper TV.
And so I call Cindy,
because I know she's filled with faith.
She's making all these leaps.
And I say, well, Cindy,
God's telling me to have a TV show.
And she signed the lease, I didn't know.
And I'm telling you this, it's only been 24 hours.
And she's called 24 hours
from the time God said, start Prosper TV.
24 hours, I'm telling,
I'm sharing the testimony that God told me.
And she says, well, you're gonna love this.
There is a fully equipped,
state of the art television studio.
And so I love the way that God's miracles
weave us together and interconnect us.
I like to say, I love healing.
I love it when people get healed, saved, delivered,
all those cool things, provision.
But I think my favorite miracle is divine appointments.
He's over here speaking to the chancellor.
He's over here speaking to you, divine appointments.
He's over here speaking to me about TV.
He's weaving together.
And I love that.
And so, I honor your faith and your courage
that you listened.
Yeah, you like to question a little bit,
but ultimately you always listen and you obey.
And you are being blessed to be a blessing.
And you look at all the people
that the ripple effect of God's blessing
by your faithfulness in doing this.
And I honor that in you.
And I love the work that you're doing.
It's so important.
What I see as a coach,
I'm on the other end of that mess, really.
You're seeing the technical landmines.
I'm seeing like the coaching and motivational landmines,
right, and they all tie with what you're doing.
So one guru is saying, podcasts are where they are.
Go do podcasts.
And someone's going, no, challenges are where you are.
Challenges are, no, no, you gotta write a blog.
It's all in a blog.
No, write a book.
No, speak publicly.
And so they're not only being torn in technology,
but I think you're right.
These are the things that are literally,
they've got a call from God, I want to serve, I've got this gift, I want to be
part of healing and bringing hope in this way. And instead, they're on the
phone with technical support, they're being pulled, money, resources, everything.
And so, you know, I love the way God has allowed us to work together and how
it fits together in what we're doing. What else would you say to people
listening? What advice would you give them? They're getting ready to, they're
thinking about being online or they're online. What advice would you give them?
Get as much help as you can, right? Honestly, that just because you can learn
about it online doesn't mean you should try, because it's not that I or the
people who know this stuff is smarter, but it takes a lot of time. It takes, and
it takes focus time, it takes the ability to just want to sit there and solve
complex problems. And like, unless God's called you to do that, most people don't
want to sit quietly in the back room for six hours and stare at code, like they
don't love it. And so... You do, though. I do, I do. You talk about parts of the body, right? I do. I just get a kick out of the
complexity of it, but it breaks my heart that people are trying to do it by
themselves, you know? And also, if you can find a holistic view, like make sure you
start at the beginning. Everyone wins if it's done correctly from the beginning.
And so, start with the end in mind, but really understand what it is you're even
doing. It really doesn't have to do, everyone's like, I just need a logo. No,
that's so much more than that. So, that's it. Seek help, make sure you start right
from the beginning. And the other thing, even separate from that, is just
remembering if God's calling someone to do something, He knows everything, right?
So, in the end, when He says, do this or do that, and I'm like, yeah, but... I always
remember, He's like, knows so much more about who's doing what and where it is
and what resources are available. And not only that, He can change anyone's mind at
any time. So, half the time, people are like, I really wasn't planning on doing
that, but I just feel like I'm supposed to. Even just anybody, somebody at the
bank or... God can change people's minds. God can equip anyone with anything, bring
the resources in your life. So, when you listen and you say, I'm open, He knows
everything. He's got so much abundant wealth, right? Abundance. Just because
some people don't have money in their house right now, there's no less money in
the world, right? There's no less money. And so, it's a matter of allowing that to
come. And I think one thing I learned over time is we need to accept. Not only
do we need to listen and obey, we need to accept the blessings, accept them. And
that's sometimes hard, like, I don't deserve it or, you know, just...
Being open, being receptive, being in the receptive mode. You know, we operate so
often in masculine energy in business, especially as women, right? And so, we're
driven and we're goal-oriented and we're pursuing and we're doing this stuff. But
the feminine is to be open and to be receptive and to receive, you know, what
God has for us. And I love that, that you're saying that, you know, just to be
open. One of my favorite questions is, what's possible? What's possible? What
else is possible? In fact, I think I remember I gave you that question. Share
what you did when I started having you look at what's possible. What happened?
Oh, my world after being a stay-at-home mom for 10 years had just gotten smaller
and smaller and smaller and smaller and smaller. And you just lose, like, the sight
of other solutions, right? And so, I had just gotten to this tiny place where, you
know, it doesn't even matter the limitations of it. But Brenda comes and
says, I just want you to write what's possible. And so, at the time, one of my
friends who owns a building had this giant whiteboard. And so, I went in with a
marker, all by myself, and I just wrote what's possible. And, you know, I just,
like, started writing, like, not editing any of it, right? Just what's possible.
Oh, I want...and most of it, like, the first huge line was, I want this, I want
this, I want this, I want this. The ocean, you know, the house by the ocean, or this,
this, this. But by the halfway down the second line, it shows you the
materialistic focus. But then it was, wow, that story should be out there, or...
You know, the story of my childhood should be proclaimed the great deeds of God.
How is it that I can minister and heal other women?
And, you know, it's like, dang.
And but right after that, after this entire board is just opened to me to,
why isn't that possible, right?
Why isn't it possible?
I was called by God to come to the window and I just felt like the sunlight, the light of,
you know, the light of God filling me.
And he's like, are you sure?
Like, will you accept it?
Wow.
Right. Are you sure?
Wow.
Because it takes a lot to accept.
You know, I heard a preacher say one day,
if God gave you everything you're asking for right now, you couldn't handle it.
You know, your mind is so small relative to like, you got to learn to grow into it.
It's something you said.
Right. And so he really was.
Are you sure?
Do you accept it?
Yes or no.
Right.
So it's a big thing.
So just you opening your mind and what's possible and being willing to shift your mindset.
So you had some beliefs about business and about life that were really about working,
that were holding you back.
So what happened?
How did your mind shift?
What changed for you?
Well, just to have you asking questions like,
how much time are you actually spending running around to all these different grocery stores
trying to save like 20 bucks?
Or how much time do you spend going to Goodwill so you can get your shirts for $3 instead of
$5 on the clearance online?
Right.
So it's like, I never knew that.
Or is it really true that I can't be a good mother and stay at home?
Because I'm so unhappy doing all this housework.
I mean, I've got all of this talent and love.
And I'm just at home doing laundry and being unhappier and unhappier.
Right.
But the world just became like, there's no other choice.
There's no other choice.
So to have someone come and go, what if you just order your groceries online?
Like, what could you do with that time that might make you a better mother?
Or what is a different way you could look at that?
Or, you know?
Just changing the perspective.
Just started to be able to ask the question of, could this be different?
Is that really true?
Am I a better mother staying at home?
Or am I a better mother showing them this?
Right?
Is this what I want my kids to see?
Am I modeling life?
Am I modeling abundance?
Am I modeling life with God?
Yeah.
Oh, you know, I've been so privileged to see the transformation in you and your willingness
to look at it and to grow.
And the greatest investment really is the return on investment, right?
Is growing you.
Spiritually, emotionally, physically, relationally.
And I've seen that.
You've invested.
You've been willing to invest your time, your treasure, your effort in coaching, in learning,
and to really expand yourself.
And I think you bring something really rich.
People come to you, and they get a one-stop shop, if you will, of eliminating these
landmines that are pulling them off their kingdom calling.
But I think you're coming from a place of healing and of love and of knowing that God
is good.
And that, too, is a blessing that you're bringing to your clients.
That, too, is a blessing.
And I love it.
I honor you for the growth, for your faith leaps, for the incredible, beautiful service
you're offering to entrepreneurs.
So how can they work with you?
How can...
What do they do?
What's their first step?
You can go to my website, which is tnksolutions.com, and contact me like that.
Or you could, I guess...
Okay.
Go to your website and contact you.
Okay.
There should be contact information there.
And do you do a consultation?
Do you do some evaluation to see where they're at?
What can they expect?
Yeah.
Well, I don't...
I would think...
I mean, I'm just starting this.
So I'm trying to find the solution that makes the most sense.
So I think what I do is very different.
And so I think I want to put together some kind of summary video that just says,
this is what you can expect that I'm doing and why it's different and how it can serve
you to make sure it's the right fit.
But if that's true, we should spend half an hour together.
And we can talk about what your thoughts are or...
What they're trying to accomplish.
What God is doing for you.
And just...
Even if you don't do business with me, I can at least help you get some thoughts going.
And know what to look for, maybe?
Know what to look for.
They don't know these landmines you're talking about, right?
So we'll need a couple hours, though.
Yeah.
Okay.
But at least you can start telling them what to look for.
Absolutely.
You can point them in the direction.
What comes first? Yeah, that's that's a great great thing. So TNK solutions calm. That's awesome
I'm so glad you're on the show. I'm so glad you shared I think I thank you for sharing a little bit of your personal
Being transparent because it's so easy for someone watching the show to say. Oh, she's so smart. She's a geek
she knows that stuff but to see that you're human and
you've struggled and God has been victorious in your life and
He has provided for you and
You're modeling so many things. So thank you for your your honesty your transparency
I know that God is glorified and I know people are really gonna be blessed hearing the show. So thanks. Thanks for doing that
Thanks for being here