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Hi beautiful people.

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How are you?

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Welcome to the kingdom creatives Zoom chat.

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We are so glad you are here.

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We will give a few minutes to let

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everyone sign in.

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We are going to give a few minutes

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for everyone to sign in.

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Hi Penny.

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Hi Zoe.

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We will give a few minutes for

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everyone to log in.

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I know with the time zone change

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here in North America we did our

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daylight savings.

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I know the time zone change is

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different for everyone around the

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world.

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We will give a few minutes for

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everyone to sign in.

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It usually takes three or four

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minutes for everyone to jump into

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the party.

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We are so glad you are here.

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Hi Marlene and Laurel.

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All of these beautiful women.

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I'm loving it.

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I've been having a dance party

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all morning.

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I've been listening to music.

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The new album called lion.

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I have literally been here.

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Dancing it up all morning.

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So many beautiful songs.

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I know music is so personal based

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on your preference.

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Based on what kind of style you

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like.

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I'm so glad you are here.

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I'm loving it.

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Weeping, singing, dancing,

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twirling.

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It's such a beautiful thing to

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move our bodies and dance in

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God's presence.

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These amazing beautiful women.

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I have to say this kingdom

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creative chat is one of my

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favorite parts of the kingdom.

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Understanding who you are and

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what you are doing is so beautiful.

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It is so inspiring.

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I was praying to the Lord this

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morning.

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It is such a gift when you have

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the gift of relationship.

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The gift of seeing and connecting

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with people in the kingdom all

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the time.

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The gift of seeing people doing

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something.

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Walking in their unique design.

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They are creating and being

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fruitful.

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It is the most beautiful thing to

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celebrate people.

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It pulls out something in you

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The joy of the Lord.

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The delight of the Lord.

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Look at what they are creating.

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It is inspiration.

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Jealousy can be a gift.

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It shows us what is on the

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inside of us and what we are

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longing for.

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It shows us what they are

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experiencing.

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If God can do it for them,

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God can do it for me.

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They are expressing something.

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I get to marvel.

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I get to marvel at the wonder and

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beauty of that person.

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I get to come alongside and

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experience it.

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I get to bring expression in

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loving God with all of my heart,

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giving creative expression.

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God bringing excellence to that.

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It would nurture people and serve

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people and beautify humanity.

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That is what happens when we get

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to see people doing what they are

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doing.

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It is like a little

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butterfly.

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Who are you?

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All these beautiful faces.

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Hey, Z.

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What's up?

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I was just saying,

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with the time zone change,

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having a quick moment where our time zone changed.

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we had daylight savings last

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Last night I was like, see you at this time.

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He's like, no, you're wrong.

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I was like, I'm so sorry.

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And then this morning I realized,

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oh, it's cause the daylight savings.

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We have like, we used to be 12 and a half hours apart

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and now we're, is it 13 and a half hours apart?

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The thing is last time my time was the night 10.30 PM.

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So I was expecting the same time because 9 AM.

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But today it actually, it was 9.30.

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I'm still figuring out how.

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So, yeah.

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So that's why I texted you last night.

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Cause I was like, see you at 9.30, I was like, no.

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But then I just realized I was so tired.

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I should have communicated.

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Oh, it's cause of the daylight savings time.

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But then I was like, maybe I'm out of it.

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And he's like, girl, what are you talking about?

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That's not the time, it's 10.30.

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I'm really sorry.

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I was thinking that I've got one more hour to go for life.

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I was actually waiting and chilling at home.

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No, it's great.

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This happens all the time.

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This is the beauty of doing life

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with one another internationally,

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with all the time zones.

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It's always a tricky thing.

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I'm just glad we're all here.

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I'm just glad that we caught that

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and that we're both on the same page.

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I'm so glad you're here.

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It would have been sad, just me, without-

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I know.

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We've got all these beautiful people.

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I was just also just saying

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the beautiful thing about in the kingdom,

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that there's no comparison or competition,

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but there's just celebration.

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And especially in the realm of artists.

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I think in anything that you're called to do,

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there's always that journey

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that you have to hold within your heart

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of maintaining that thing of honor and respect

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and celebration for one another

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when people are doing the very thing

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that you're created to do.

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And yet, when you have that heart positioned

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to see with the eyes of the father

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and to just celebrate every brother and sister,

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every son and daughter, every mother and father around you,

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and that everything that we create

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actually elevates humanity.

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Everything we create actually just beautifies the earth

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and it shows us what's possible.

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And it gives us keys to unlock our own identity

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and our own understanding of the nature

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and character of God.

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And it actually shows us when God favors and blesses

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and gives abundance to anyone,

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it just shows us that's the nature of our father.

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That is the nature of our God.

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And if he can do it for them, he can do it for us.

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Revelation 19, it's the spirit of prophecy,

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the testimony of Jesus.

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So when we see the testimony of Jesus,

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what God is speaking and doing and releasing

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in another human, it is the spirit of prophecy.

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We can say, God, you did it for them.

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Come do it for me, you know?

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And God, would you unlock me?

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And it is the nature of love to provide.

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And every good and perfect gift comes from the father.

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So any gift that we see in the world,

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it comes from the father and we get to just rejoice in it

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and delight in it and celebrate it.

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And so that is our heart here at Kingdom Creatives

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of raising royalty, our whole heart for these chats.

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Is that we would provide a safe place for dialogue

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to be seen and to be known.

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Like the kingdom is all about relationship.

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We just wanna get to know you.

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We wanna love you.

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We wanna serve you.

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We wanna champion you.

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And we wanna come just with some content,

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some different themes and topics that we can talk about

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that's just helps encourage you

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and helps serve you in your journey

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of your relationship with God,

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of walking out your purpose, your calling, your destiny

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and the creative expression on your life.

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Whatever that is, whether it's just your own,

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you wanna interior decorate your home,

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whether you wanna have fashion or beauty,

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whether you want to write poetry,

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whether you wanna do architecture,

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you're a fashion designer, you're into song,

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you're into dance.

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I mean, whatever, you're a digital design, you're in media,

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you're in creativity and artistic expression

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can have a thousand different ways.

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So whatever that looks like,

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we just want to see you fully come alive and thrive

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in who God's created you to be.

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And we're all on the journey of going like God.

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We want the spirit of wisdom and revelation to know you

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and to know who you've made us to be

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so that we can fully live life to the full.

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We can seek first the kingdom and your righteousness,

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have all things added to us

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and live out the fullness of what you've called us to do.

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So for those of you that are just jumping in the first time,

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maybe you haven't joined in

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or maybe you've watched some of the replays

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or maybe you're new to raising royalty,

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that's just a little bit of our heart.

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And we have the wonderful Zylan

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who is just an incredible man and leader

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and artist himself and creative.

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He is in India, and we also have Fee,

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which is another incredible man, and he's in Madagascar.

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He'll be joining us hopefully shortly as well.

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And he won our Kingdom Talent Quest, which is amazing.

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So he, yeah, he's an incredible gift,

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incredible singer, songwriter, and artist.

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So Zailin, talk to me.

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How's your day been?

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Yeah, it's super hot here.

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It's, the summer just started,

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and it's already really, really, like, intense.

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And yeah, doing pretty nice, pretty good.

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For those who don't know me, I'm a singer-songwriter.

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I started a new project with one of my friends.

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So we were just doing some productions kind of thing.

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So yeah, so that's what's happening right now at the moment.

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Awesome.

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When do you think your project will be released?

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When do you think it will be finished,

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or is it kind of, like, still to be determined?

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Yeah, the thing is, we are just, like,

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getting out of this pandemic situation.

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So the entire entertainment industry

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is kind of, like, now slowly waking up,

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and there are a lot of pending works, you know?

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So, and the guys that I am working with,

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usually work with, like,

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I work with a lot of mainstream artists,

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and they're already packed with a lot of works.

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So the process is kind of slow,

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so we haven't reached a place to decide

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when we can finish this project.

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But thank God, at least we started.

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Yes, oh, it's so good.

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Oh, I'm so glad.

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Yeah, it's so good to be getting things moving again.

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Yeah, so, yep.

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Yeah, awesome.

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Well, I've seen more and more of you beautiful people

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hopping on.

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It's so good to see you, Rebecca and Phoeben and Wanda

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and Esther and Therese.

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All these beautiful people.

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Thank you so much for joining.

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We just love it.

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The more people, the better.

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I mean, it's great when it's just one or two

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or when it's five or 10,

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but, like, the more people, the better.

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We just love seeing your faces, hearing your voices.

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Maybe you can let us know,

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where are some of you guys tuning in from?

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We'll get started in a few minutes,

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but I just thought,

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where are some of you tuning in from?

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You can just say hi for a few seconds.

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Anyone wants to come on screen?

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Carol Gravanti, and I'm in Tampa, Florida.

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Awesome.

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It's my first time.

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I've been wanting to do this with you,

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and it's my first time, though.

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I wish I had joined the others,

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but you say there are replays, so that's exciting.

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Yes, there are replays.

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So on our Kingdom Creative Guide,

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of the Raising Royalty Facebook page,

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so that is free.

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If you're part of our Raising Royalty community on Facebook,

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there is a guide called Kingdom Creatives,

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so they'll all be posted there,

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as well as you can go to our new platform,

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RaisingRoyalty.io,

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and that is our new website platform,

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and all of our Kingdom Creatives Zoom chats

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are there as well.

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So I think all five of them.

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So this is our sixth chat.

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We usually do one chat a month.

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So yeah, they're all there,

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and they've all got a different theme, different topics.

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We just discuss different things.

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Usually me and Zylan and Fi

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will kind of talk about 10, 15, 20 minutes.

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We'll kind of go back and forth sharing different insights

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and inputs and revelations and encouragement,

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and then we kind of open it up if people have questions

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or if people have anything else to share,

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and we kind of dialogue together,

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and then we kind of pray at the end,

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and that's our beautiful time together.

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Thank you.

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Yeah, thanks for saying hi, Carol.

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So glad you're here.

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Hey, I'm Gigi,

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and I'm from heavenly places in Christ Jesus,

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but on earth, I'm in upstate New York.

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I love it.

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I love it.

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Oh, that's awesome.

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Welcome.

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I'm so glad you're here.

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I love New York.

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One of my dear friends is heading there next week,

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and I'm like, oh, I want to go to New York.

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I'm like, oh, I want to go to New York.

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And I'm like, oh, I wish I could go and meet up

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and live it up.

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Like, New York's just beautiful.

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I love it.

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All the different sides of New York, you know?

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Beautiful.

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Well, glad you're here, Gigi.

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Well, thanks.

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I'm Terese.

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Dials, I live in Lexington, Kentucky.

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Hi, oh, and I remember your beautiful face as well

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from, was it the talent quest time or there was,

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there was a live?

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We did.

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There was, yeah.

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No, this is my first time on this.

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Yes.

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Cause I always miss it because I'm in a prayer group

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a lot of times, but this is, but I was,

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when I did the master class.

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That's it, yes.

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I remember there was another Zoom.

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I remember seeing your face.

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So I was like, hi, it's so good to see you.

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I actually won a prize too.

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Yes, that's right.

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It was the masterclass because I remember,

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I remember going through each, yeah,

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each contest that I was doing for each day.

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And I remember that's it, that's it.

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Oh, it's so good to see you.

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Yeah, it's good to be here finally.

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I just got off of prayer Zoom.

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So it's like, oh, and I saw the email and I said,

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oh, click.

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Oh, I'm so glad.

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Oh, so good.

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Thank you for being here.

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It's so good.

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It's good to be here.

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Yeah, it adds so much just beauty and depth

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when you just get to see every different person.

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You know what I mean?

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Cause we're all made just so uniquely

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and we all have father's fingerprints and his goodness.

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And we reveal the father in a unique way on the earth,

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but only we can.

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And so when you see each person and hear their voice

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and see their face and we get to hear your story,

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oh, I just love it.

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So thank you for being here.

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Anybody else want to say a quick hi before we get started?

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Yes, I'm Pierre Goulard, I'm from Gatineau, Quebec.

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Hi.

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So this is the first time I'm on those call

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and I don't really know what to expect.

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I only saw the website and I saw the videos

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that were there were very aligned

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with things that are important to me.

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So I was very interested in being there.

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There's things that I have to do.

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So I'm going to have to leave in about 10 minutes

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and try to come back maybe in 15 minutes after that

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if the call is still going.

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I'm very, or I'll just shut down everything,

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but I'm very interested in seeing what the group is about

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and it sounds interesting.

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So I'm looking forward to see what's ahead.

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So nice to see you, everyone.

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Yeah, I just have to say hi, Pierre.

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It's been so awesome to see you here.

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It's good to see you.

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So I got the link from you, Laurel, yeah.

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Oh, I love that.

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I love the connections

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and just like bringing friends into the journey.

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Yeah, this is awesome.

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You can always come back and watch the replay.

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We usually go for about an hour and a half,

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sometimes two hours and really our time.

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Yeah, this is our sixth chat together.

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Okay, good.

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We do this once a month

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and this is just one aspect of Raising Royalty.

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Raising Royalty is a large movement

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where we're basically wanting to serve men and women

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all across the world in the body of Christ,

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sons and daughters,

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see them fully awaken to their identity in Jesus,

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walk in their unique dreams,

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their calling, their purpose and bring heaven to earth.

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And that's in every sphere of influence.

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That's in every different realm of our humanity.

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And so Kingdom Creatives,

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we're just one aspect of the big movement of Raising Royalty

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and we're just wanting to serve people

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who have a desire to grow in their artistic expression,

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their creativity,

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whether you are in a profession

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and a career of art or creativity,

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or whether it's just something just within your humanity,

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you're wanting to explore more,

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you're wanting to understand more.

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So that is our heart here.

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So we're so glad you're here.

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I'm so glad.

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Thank you.

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It's good to see you.

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Good to see you too.

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Thanks.

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Does anybody else wanna say hello?

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There's no pressure to,

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but just if you want to.

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I have to say a quick hello.

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Oh, how are you?

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I'm in the middle of cooking as usual,

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so I'm gonna have to bob in and out.

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But it's just nice to say hello.

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Sunny, shining hair is beautiful in the UK.

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Oh, I love it.

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Spring is coming.

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Spring is here.

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It is.

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Yeah, all those green shoots, it's lovely.

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Yeah, oh, that's lovely.

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So good.

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So, so grateful you're here, Zoe.

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Zoe, sorry.

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Just seeing in the chat,

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few people saying hello, Beth from Alabama.

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Morag from PEI. Oh, Morag! I remember you, beautiful woman. Oh, so good to see you're

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here. Fabian and Esther. So glad you're here from Toronto. Laurel from Arizona. Rebecca

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from UK. Hello, all you beautiful people. Well, it is so... Marlene from New Zealand.

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Yes, I remember your beautiful face from before. Oh, so good. So good to have you here.

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Well, we might kind of jump into it. Our whole heart in this chat, I'm just going to see

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that little beeping noise for a second. I'm just going to close out of a window in my

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lovely... Oh, it's still going. Bless the Lord. Just going to get out of there. There

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we go. So hopefully that beeping won't continue on. Our heart today, we're going to be talking

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about intentions and motivation in artistic expression. So why do we express ourselves?

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Why do... What's the intentions? What's the motivations behind our creativity, behind

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our art, behind all of that? Oh, just got someone coming on. Maybe it'll shift. Sorry,

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my screen's just showing that someone's wanting to come on. So we're just going to be kind

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of like jumping into that. And I'm going to share a little bit. Zylan's going to share

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a little bit. If Phi comes on as well, he'll share his heart. I've got lots of kind of

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different thoughts, but I thought I would just start out kind of... I actually woke

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up this morning. I was just praying last night, like, God, would you just so speak to me?

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Would you come through with, yeah, things that are on your heart? And I actually woke

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up this morning. Do any of you know the Chariots of Fire story? Eric Liddell, like that movie

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Chariots of Fire. So basically there was a movie written about these two runners, I believe.

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I actually even haven't watched the movie. I've just heard about it so much. But I woke

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up with this story on my mind and with the Lord reminding me. So there is this incredible

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runner and he was a Christian and he made the statement. I think he ran for the Olympics

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and he made this statement. He was also passionate about going to China to preach the gospel

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and be a missionary. If I have the story correct, forgive me if I have it wrong. But

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when questioned about why he ran, he said, when I run, I feel the pleasure of God. And

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it just like, I just woke up with that, the intention and the motivation. One of the things

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of going, wow, we are alive to know God and love God, to experience his joy and his delight.

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And in his life, he's like, God made me fast. And when I run, I feel his pleasure. And when

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I go and do this race, if I win, it is actually to honor the Lord. So his whole motivation

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as an athlete, his whole desire in his relationship with God and his understanding of his humanity

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was he was like, God made me fast and I was born to run. And when I run, I feel his pleasure.

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And in this race, in this Olympic, in what I do, when I win, I honor him. There's a spirit

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of excellence that comes that when I express myself in my divine design, I actually feel

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his pleasure and delight that he made me for that way. And when I bring excellence to that,

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there is any accolade, any fame, any notoriety, any significance, any influence. It's actually

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all to honor him. And I just was like thinking and meditating on that. I'm just like laying

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in bed thinking like, wow, isn't that a beautiful intention and motivation for us as humans

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in anything that we do, that we would understand our divine design and that we wouldn't try

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to fit the mold of anything. But what comes naturally to you? What do you naturally do

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that when you do it, you're just like, there is something on the inside of you that you

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cannot, you're just drawn to it. You are drawn to create, you're drawn to express yourself

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this way. And when you do it, you feel alive. When you do it, you feel joy. You feel the

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pleasure of God. When you do it, you feel more connected to God than in any other way.

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You feel his presence. You feel his voice. You feel like, man, when I do this, when I

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express myself this way, maybe it's in writing. Maybe it's in creating. Maybe it's in design.

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Maybe it's in singing or dancing. Maybe it's you see color. Maybe you hear things. You

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hear things in your mind.

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in your mind, in your spirit, and then when you actually begin to create it. Maybe it's in

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sculpture, you know. I know that the Michelangelo thing was like when he saw a piece of like stone

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and he's like, I saw, I'm gonna get, I hope I get this right. It's just coming to me, reminding me

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of this thing. David with the Michelangelo or Michelangelo with the David. I'm just having a

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moment. He carved, he saw the image that he wanted to create and he carved until he created it. He

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had this image, he knew what he saw in his mind and he created and he chipped away and he chiseled

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away until he actually created what he saw in his heart, in his mind. And a lot of us, I think,

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we are made for a unique divine purpose. We actually have the fingerprints of the father.

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When the father dreamed us up, he dreamed us up and he put us in our mother's womb with so much

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00:26:01.760 --> 00:26:07.040
intentionality of why we are the way we are, the way we see, the way we think, the way we feel.

522
00:26:07.840 --> 00:26:15.680
And I think sometimes in our world, based on where we're born, nature versus nurture,

523
00:26:16.240 --> 00:26:21.200
maybe depending on what was celebrated in your life or what wasn't. Sometimes things in our

524
00:26:21.200 --> 00:26:27.120
humanity, we try to fit a certain mold or we, maybe your mom and dad wanted you to be a lawyer

525
00:26:27.120 --> 00:26:31.600
or a doctor or something, or they wanted you to fit into something, but actually naturally

526
00:26:32.160 --> 00:26:37.360
you were born to express and create yourself. You had a natural desire for something else and that

527
00:26:37.360 --> 00:26:42.640
didn't get nurtured in you, but the nature of who you are was actually something. And I think in our

528
00:26:42.640 --> 00:26:48.160
humanity throughout our childhood and our adulthood, we're constantly becoming awakened to who we

529
00:26:48.160 --> 00:26:54.560
really are, the truest, most authentic version of who we are in our humanity. And then when we do

530
00:26:54.560 --> 00:27:00.000
that, when we actually discover this gives me so much joy and pleasure and delight. And wow, I

531
00:27:00.000 --> 00:27:06.160
actually feel the pleasure of God in this. It is like, there's nothing that can compare to it.

532
00:27:06.160 --> 00:27:12.240
Does anybody, has anybody experienced that before? When you actually feel celebrated and you feel

533
00:27:12.240 --> 00:27:18.400
that divine connection on like, I was, yeah, I was born to do this. And I know for me in my life, there

534
00:27:18.400 --> 00:27:24.480
was a lot of that growing up, but then there was a lot of expectation. There was limitations put on me.

535
00:27:24.480 --> 00:27:29.680
There was actually, Dana, we know that this is who you are, but we need you to do this. And I actually

536
00:27:29.680 --> 00:27:35.120
started being in different roles and functioning in leadership and in ministry and different things

537
00:27:35.120 --> 00:27:40.000
that weren't my gifting, that weren't my primary gift, but I was doing it out of a desire to serve

538
00:27:40.000 --> 00:27:45.200
and a desire to bless and what I thought God wanted from me. Meanwhile, it was kind of burning

539
00:27:45.200 --> 00:27:50.560
me out when there was all of these other things that I was far more gifted and caused me to come

540
00:27:50.560 --> 00:27:56.320
alive. And I felt his joy and his pleasure and so much more kind of fulfillment and anointing would

541
00:27:56.320 --> 00:28:01.120
flow in that, you know? And I think there's something to be said of our personal discovery

542
00:28:02.000 --> 00:28:06.640
and really getting with the father and being like, what did you make me for?

543
00:28:06.640 --> 00:28:11.360
You know? So I think one thing I just want to highlight with the intentions and motivations

544
00:28:12.160 --> 00:28:17.920
is that we are made to feel joy and pleasure and delight in how we are uniquely made.

545
00:28:18.560 --> 00:28:25.200
And it all comes from the revelation of who the father is and who he's made us to be. And so when

546
00:28:25.200 --> 00:28:32.960
we truly know who God is, and when we're growing in that place of intimacy, communion with him,

547
00:28:32.960 --> 00:28:38.400
and we know our divine design, my gosh, so much, like there's nothing that's not possible.

548
00:28:39.840 --> 00:28:44.000
I have so many other thoughts, but I just thought, Zylan, do you have something to share on that?

549
00:28:44.720 --> 00:28:49.440
Do you have any thoughts on that? Well, I think you can just continue. I'll...

550
00:28:50.640 --> 00:28:55.680
Yeah, yeah. Okay. I just saw you pop up. I just didn't know if you had anything to add.

551
00:28:55.760 --> 00:29:00.800
Yeah. So just that first thing of just joy, delight, pleasure in God, discovering who we're

552
00:29:00.800 --> 00:29:08.000
created to be, and having that artistic expression first and foremost come from our divine design

553
00:29:08.000 --> 00:29:17.760
and from relationship with God. I think as artists and creatives, there is something,

554
00:29:17.760 --> 00:29:22.160
I don't know if any of you also can relate to this, there is just like an innate

555
00:29:22.160 --> 00:29:27.600
driven desire to create. There is something almost like if you put a bird in the air,

556
00:29:27.600 --> 00:29:34.240
if you put a fish in water, if you watch a creature in its natural habitat, it's just

557
00:29:34.240 --> 00:29:41.600
going to do that. It's unnatural for it not to. There's just that natural desire. And I think as

558
00:29:41.600 --> 00:29:48.960
creatives and artists, we're born with something that is just so natural, that actually... So our

559
00:29:49.040 --> 00:29:56.880
intention, our motivation is it's like breathing. It's like living. I just see the world and I have

560
00:29:56.880 --> 00:30:01.600
to see it. And I don't know if I can put it in words, but I think we're born with something

561
00:30:00.000 --> 00:30:01.160
to respond this way.

562
00:30:01.160 --> 00:30:03.160
There's just something internal

563
00:30:01.600 --> 00:30:07.360
that is just so natural. And I think as artists and creators, we're born with something that is

564
00:30:03.160 --> 00:30:05.380
that just becomes like an expression.

565
00:30:06.360 --> 00:30:09.620
And I think that's a really, it's a simple way,

566
00:30:07.360 --> 00:30:12.320
just so natural. And I think as artists and creators, we're born with something that is like

567
00:30:09.620 --> 00:30:13.120
but it just kind of like, yeah,

568
00:30:13.120 --> 00:30:14.440
it just simplifies something

569
00:30:14.440 --> 00:30:16.280
that can sometimes be overcomplicated.

570
00:30:16.280 --> 00:30:17.800
Like, why do artists do this?

571
00:30:17.800 --> 00:30:19.320
Well, it's like, I was just born to do it.

572
00:30:19.320 --> 00:30:21.080
It's just natural, like breathing.

573
00:30:22.560 --> 00:30:23.760
I've got some notes here too

574
00:30:23.760 --> 00:30:26.040
that I might just read off some of my notes

575
00:30:26.040 --> 00:30:29.200
just to kind of, just to touch on a few things

576
00:30:29.240 --> 00:30:32.040
and then I'll throw it over to you, Zylan.

577
00:30:32.040 --> 00:30:33.280
But just my notes just say,

578
00:30:33.280 --> 00:30:35.400
why do people create or perform art?

579
00:30:35.400 --> 00:30:36.560
There's countless reasons

580
00:30:36.560 --> 00:30:38.560
that motivate the creation of art.

581
00:30:38.560 --> 00:30:41.180
Some of them are making our surroundings more beautiful,

582
00:30:41.180 --> 00:30:44.240
creating records of a specific time, place,

583
00:30:44.240 --> 00:30:48.460
person, or object, and expressing and communicating ideas.

584
00:30:48.460 --> 00:30:52.920
Art is inspiring and stimulating for the human mind.

585
00:30:52.920 --> 00:30:57.240
There's a brilliant quote from Pablo Picasso,

586
00:30:57.240 --> 00:30:58.520
who is a Spanish painter.

587
00:30:58.520 --> 00:31:02.620
And he says, art washes away from the soul,

588
00:31:02.620 --> 00:31:05.120
the dust of everyday life.

589
00:31:05.120 --> 00:31:06.680
And I love that quote.

590
00:31:06.680 --> 00:31:09.320
Art washes away from the soul of everyday life.

591
00:31:09.320 --> 00:31:10.680
It's refreshing.

592
00:31:10.680 --> 00:31:11.880
Art is beautiful.

593
00:31:11.880 --> 00:31:13.400
It's stimulating.

594
00:31:13.400 --> 00:31:14.920
It causes an awakening.

595
00:31:14.920 --> 00:31:16.440
It's meant to refresh us.

596
00:31:16.440 --> 00:31:18.000
It's meant to revive us.

597
00:31:18.000 --> 00:31:20.600
It's meant to open up possibilities.

598
00:31:20.600 --> 00:31:22.920
That is the gift of what art does.

599
00:31:22.920 --> 00:31:25.200
So an intention and a motivation of art

600
00:31:25.200 --> 00:31:29.120
could be just that, to awaken, to revive,

601
00:31:29.120 --> 00:31:31.480
to refresh, to renew.

602
00:31:31.480 --> 00:31:33.500
You know, how many times have we been

603
00:31:33.500 --> 00:31:34.960
through a really difficult time

604
00:31:34.960 --> 00:31:36.560
and we hear a piece of music

605
00:31:36.560 --> 00:31:38.940
and we're just like, oh my gosh, you know?

606
00:31:38.940 --> 00:31:42.900
Or we see something beautiful and we're just like awestruck.

607
00:31:42.900 --> 00:31:46.040
You know, the Mona Lisa is just like one of those things.

608
00:31:46.040 --> 00:31:49.040
People travel from all around the world, you know,

609
00:31:49.040 --> 00:31:50.880
to see this piece of art.

610
00:31:50.880 --> 00:31:53.200
Like art is captivating.

611
00:31:53.200 --> 00:31:56.560
Gosh, all of the different art that is like

612
00:31:56.560 --> 00:32:00.000
from all different times in history,

613
00:32:00.000 --> 00:32:04.920
you see how art actually marks times in history.

614
00:32:04.920 --> 00:32:06.400
It marks centuries.

615
00:32:06.400 --> 00:32:09.400
It marks different pockets of time.

616
00:32:09.400 --> 00:32:12.720
And we know it by the sculptures, the painting,

617
00:32:12.720 --> 00:32:15.800
the cathedrals, the songs, the fashion.

618
00:32:17.360 --> 00:32:19.440
It's so powerful in how it communicates.

619
00:32:19.440 --> 00:32:23.320
So art is an important part of being human.

620
00:32:23.320 --> 00:32:26.840
Not only do we have the ability to create tools

621
00:32:26.840 --> 00:32:28.360
and modify our surroundings,

622
00:32:28.360 --> 00:32:32.720
but we also have the curiosity for making objects beautiful.

623
00:32:32.720 --> 00:32:35.640
There are many possible reasons and explanations

624
00:32:35.640 --> 00:32:37.360
as to why humans make art,

625
00:32:37.360 --> 00:32:38.720
and it would probably take years

626
00:32:38.720 --> 00:32:40.680
to identify each one of them.

627
00:32:40.680 --> 00:32:42.800
But let's explore some of the most likely reasons

628
00:32:42.800 --> 00:32:44.760
that humans create art.

629
00:32:44.760 --> 00:32:48.120
Some of them are to make our surroundings more beautiful,

630
00:32:48.120 --> 00:32:50.560
creating objects to decorate our surroundings

631
00:32:50.560 --> 00:32:54.000
has motivated the creation of many types of art,

632
00:32:54.000 --> 00:32:59.000
such as architecture, painting, sculpture, jewelry,

633
00:32:59.000 --> 00:33:02.760
design objects for everyday use, and many others.

634
00:33:02.760 --> 00:33:05.560
Creating records of a specific time,

635
00:33:05.560 --> 00:33:07.600
a place, person, or an object

636
00:33:07.600 --> 00:33:10.520
is also a major motivation for art.

637
00:33:10.520 --> 00:33:13.880
Paintings of individuals, battle scenes,

638
00:33:13.880 --> 00:33:16.040
even those artistic wedding photographs

639
00:33:16.040 --> 00:33:17.600
that could be considered art

640
00:33:18.080 --> 00:33:21.520
are made for the purpose of recording something specific.

641
00:33:21.520 --> 00:33:23.760
Expressing and communicating ideas

642
00:33:23.760 --> 00:33:26.480
also moves the creation of art.

643
00:33:26.480 --> 00:33:28.640
Expressing religious beliefs,

644
00:33:28.640 --> 00:33:31.760
artwork for criticizing elements of society,

645
00:33:31.760 --> 00:33:33.760
art for educating people,

646
00:33:33.760 --> 00:33:35.760
even for showing that we are capable

647
00:33:35.760 --> 00:33:38.080
of doing something that no one else has tried.

648
00:33:38.080 --> 00:33:40.000
How many of us have seen a concert

649
00:33:40.000 --> 00:33:44.320
or have seen some crazy art

650
00:33:44.320 --> 00:33:47.360
that someone's taken some recyclable,

651
00:33:47.360 --> 00:33:50.040
you know, some piece of trash

652
00:33:50.040 --> 00:33:51.320
and they've made something beautiful.

653
00:33:51.320 --> 00:33:52.480
And you're like, what?

654
00:33:52.480 --> 00:33:55.080
How did someone make art out of that?

655
00:33:55.080 --> 00:33:57.920
Or how did someone build a building

656
00:33:57.920 --> 00:33:59.280
or build a house out of that?

657
00:33:59.280 --> 00:34:04.040
Like art has this incredible creative possibility

658
00:34:04.040 --> 00:34:06.680
that we go, I never knew that was possible,

659
00:34:06.680 --> 00:34:08.840
but someone with an artistic creative mind

660
00:34:08.840 --> 00:34:10.360
took something ordinary

661
00:34:10.360 --> 00:34:13.639
or took something out of nothing and created something.

662
00:34:13.639 --> 00:34:17.400
So it shows the ability.

663
00:34:17.400 --> 00:34:19.480
It really is, it reveals God

664
00:34:19.480 --> 00:34:21.520
because God created out of nothing.

665
00:34:21.520 --> 00:34:23.719
And so when we create with him,

666
00:34:23.719 --> 00:34:25.840
it is showing God likeness.

667
00:34:25.840 --> 00:34:29.080
It is showing God's nature, God's character,

668
00:34:29.080 --> 00:34:31.199
God's ability in humanity.

669
00:34:33.800 --> 00:34:35.040
I'll just say a few more things

670
00:34:35.040 --> 00:34:36.880
and I'll throw it over to you, Zai.

671
00:34:38.840 --> 00:34:40.199
Yeah, there are countless other reasons

672
00:34:40.199 --> 00:34:41.239
for the creation of art,

673
00:34:41.239 --> 00:34:43.199
but art has been important for mankind

674
00:34:43.719 --> 00:34:45.480
since the early dawn of civilization.

675
00:34:45.480 --> 00:34:47.280
Our ancestors started to create art

676
00:34:47.280 --> 00:34:49.199
at least 30,000 years ago.

677
00:34:49.199 --> 00:34:50.960
Among the oldest known examples

678
00:34:50.960 --> 00:34:53.480
are the prehistoric paintings on the wall caves

679
00:34:53.480 --> 00:34:54.920
of Europe and Asia,

680
00:34:54.920 --> 00:34:56.840
depicting human and animal figures

681
00:34:56.840 --> 00:34:59.320
and small items for decorating the body.

682
00:34:59.320 --> 00:35:00.160
Since those days,

683
00:35:00.000 --> 00:35:03.280
as art and mankind have evolved together.

684
00:35:00.160 --> 00:35:01.360
we've been able to create art

685
00:35:01.360 --> 00:35:03.080
that is not only about the human body,

686
00:35:03.080 --> 00:35:05.520
but also about the nature of the human body.

687
00:35:03.280 --> 00:35:05.840
And art is valuable for society.

688
00:35:05.520 --> 00:35:07.080
And I think that's one of the reasons

689
00:35:05.840 --> 00:35:09.220
Art is inspiring and stimulating for the human mind.

690
00:35:07.080 --> 00:35:08.480
why we've been able to create art

691
00:35:08.480 --> 00:35:10.120
that is not only about the human body,

692
00:35:09.220 --> 00:35:11.720
Of course, we all don't like the same types of art

693
00:35:10.120 --> 00:35:12.360
but also about the nature of the human body.

694
00:35:11.720 --> 00:35:14.720
or enjoy every single piece of art in the same way.

695
00:35:14.720 --> 00:35:17.000
However, when we see a work of art,

696
00:35:17.000 --> 00:35:20.400
our feelings and our thoughts are often awakened.

697
00:35:20.400 --> 00:35:24.120
There is a connection of art as an exterior stimulus

698
00:35:24.120 --> 00:35:27.800
with an internal inner emotional state in our minds.

699
00:35:27.840 --> 00:35:31.440
This is one of the reasons of the value placed on art

700
00:35:31.440 --> 00:35:34.720
and what it does to the human heart, the soul, the mind,

701
00:35:34.720 --> 00:35:38.120
the emotions, the physical experience

702
00:35:38.120 --> 00:35:40.120
of what art does to us.

703
00:35:40.120 --> 00:35:41.120
Throughout history,

704
00:35:41.120 --> 00:35:43.720
art has been given many valuable meanings

705
00:35:43.720 --> 00:35:46.240
and different objects have been given a great importance

706
00:35:46.240 --> 00:35:47.760
because of what they mean

707
00:35:47.760 --> 00:35:50.880
or represent to a specific group of people.

708
00:35:50.880 --> 00:35:52.100
Some have been treasured

709
00:35:52.100 --> 00:35:55.480
because of their religious experience or significance

710
00:35:55.480 --> 00:35:58.400
and others have become symbols of political power

711
00:35:58.400 --> 00:36:00.380
or national identity.

712
00:36:00.380 --> 00:36:02.280
Some are not only valued for their beauty

713
00:36:02.280 --> 00:36:04.640
but are also given a material value,

714
00:36:04.640 --> 00:36:07.680
especially pieces created with precious metals

715
00:36:07.680 --> 00:36:10.560
or others have become symbols of their time.

716
00:36:10.560 --> 00:36:14.400
Art is often considered incalculable value.

717
00:36:14.400 --> 00:36:16.760
Museums and collectors pay a lot of money

718
00:36:16.760 --> 00:36:18.240
to get a single piece.

719
00:36:18.240 --> 00:36:20.640
And although it might seem outrageous to some,

720
00:36:20.640 --> 00:36:23.760
having those pieces bring benefits like attracting visitors

721
00:36:23.760 --> 00:36:26.920
and promoting is an important cultural environment

722
00:36:26.920 --> 00:36:27.940
to our society.

723
00:36:28.800 --> 00:36:33.240
Art tells us about ourselves and it's a lasting legacy.

724
00:36:33.240 --> 00:36:38.240
History is marked by certain artists and sounds and beauty.

725
00:36:38.240 --> 00:36:41.400
Art is deeply related to human history

726
00:36:41.400 --> 00:36:45.100
and it provides a significant insight into specific culture.

727
00:36:46.280 --> 00:36:51.280
So art provides a means to express the imagination.

728
00:36:51.720 --> 00:36:56.120
So things, places, ideas that might feel unreal

729
00:36:56.120 --> 00:36:59.640
or unknowable in non-grammatic ways.

730
00:36:59.640 --> 00:37:03.240
And so unlike words, which come from sequences,

731
00:37:03.240 --> 00:37:05.400
each of which has a definite meeting,

732
00:37:05.400 --> 00:37:09.920
art provides a range of forms, symbols and ideas

733
00:37:09.920 --> 00:37:13.120
and meanings that can be determined by the artist.

734
00:37:13.120 --> 00:37:14.180
And we all know that, right?

735
00:37:14.180 --> 00:37:17.840
We all can see that an artist can create something

736
00:37:17.840 --> 00:37:20.160
with their own intent, with their own idea

737
00:37:20.200 --> 00:37:21.040
of what that means,

738
00:37:21.040 --> 00:37:23.400
but someone else can come and look at something

739
00:37:23.400 --> 00:37:25.880
and be profoundly impacted by a different way.

740
00:37:25.880 --> 00:37:30.040
Like art is an expression of the artist,

741
00:37:30.040 --> 00:37:33.640
but it actually has the ability to be interpreted

742
00:37:33.640 --> 00:37:35.920
by the individual so differently.

743
00:37:35.920 --> 00:37:36.960
You know what I mean?

744
00:37:38.720 --> 00:37:40.480
So I have a whole bunch more thoughts,

745
00:37:40.480 --> 00:37:42.760
but I just wanted to check in with you, Zylan.

746
00:37:42.760 --> 00:37:45.560
Is there anything that you wanna jump in or share?

747
00:37:45.560 --> 00:37:49.320
Do you want me to keep going or do you wanna take over?

748
00:37:49.320 --> 00:37:53.400
Well, I think you're on fire, you know.

749
00:37:53.400 --> 00:37:54.240
Okay.

750
00:37:55.840 --> 00:37:57.160
You just carry on.

751
00:37:57.160 --> 00:37:58.000
Okay.

752
00:37:59.320 --> 00:38:01.600
I think I don't wanna interfere with your flow,

753
00:38:01.600 --> 00:38:02.800
just go ahead.

754
00:38:02.800 --> 00:38:05.040
Yeah, I love listening to you, yeah.

755
00:38:05.040 --> 00:38:06.760
Okay, I'll just go for a few more minutes

756
00:38:06.760 --> 00:38:08.480
and then I'll hand it over to you.

757
00:38:08.480 --> 00:38:09.400
How are the rest of you?

758
00:38:09.400 --> 00:38:10.560
You guys are all good?

759
00:38:10.560 --> 00:38:11.920
We're all tracking together?

760
00:38:11.920 --> 00:38:14.800
I'm hoping that this is encouraging, inspiring.

761
00:38:14.800 --> 00:38:16.560
I hope it's adding value to you.

762
00:38:17.400 --> 00:38:19.600
So the purposes of art,

763
00:38:19.600 --> 00:38:21.800
got a little bit more notes on this.

764
00:38:21.800 --> 00:38:26.600
So art has a great number of different functions

765
00:38:26.600 --> 00:38:28.040
throughout its history,

766
00:38:28.040 --> 00:38:30.560
making its purpose difficult to quantify

767
00:38:30.560 --> 00:38:32.560
to any single concept.

768
00:38:32.560 --> 00:38:35.360
This does not imply that the purpose of art is vague,

769
00:38:35.360 --> 00:38:37.840
but that it has many unique different reasons

770
00:38:37.840 --> 00:38:39.400
for being created.

771
00:38:39.400 --> 00:38:40.760
Some of the functions of art

772
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are provided in the outline below.

773
00:38:42.280 --> 00:38:45.440
So I've gotten some of these notes from brilliant websites.

774
00:38:45.480 --> 00:38:47.640
Like I was just looking at different artists,

775
00:38:47.640 --> 00:38:49.360
different communicators.

776
00:38:49.360 --> 00:38:50.480
So there's different websites

777
00:38:50.480 --> 00:38:52.360
that have taken different writings and notes,

778
00:38:52.360 --> 00:38:53.720
and I'm serving you from this point.

779
00:38:53.720 --> 00:38:56.120
So all of these aren't just my own thoughts.

780
00:38:56.120 --> 00:38:58.400
These are other writers and artists

781
00:38:58.400 --> 00:39:00.440
that I've been listening to and reading and going,

782
00:39:00.440 --> 00:39:02.720
wow, they said it better than I could.

783
00:39:02.720 --> 00:39:05.120
So I'm just reading what they've said.

784
00:39:05.120 --> 00:39:08.840
So some of this is from Claude Levi-Strauss.

785
00:39:08.840 --> 00:39:12.880
So he says there's seven, I believe he has it, no, eight.

786
00:39:12.880 --> 00:39:14.280
Eight different purposes of art.

787
00:39:14.280 --> 00:39:16.920
So this is by Claude Levi-Strauss.

788
00:39:16.920 --> 00:39:19.480
Number one, the expression of the imagination.

789
00:39:20.800 --> 00:39:22.840
So as I said before, art provides a means

790
00:39:22.840 --> 00:39:26.720
to express the imagination of things, of places, ideas.

791
00:39:27.840 --> 00:39:31.920
Art can create, an artist can create visual imagery

792
00:39:31.920 --> 00:39:35.440
of mythical animals, religious concepts,

793
00:39:35.440 --> 00:39:39.600
fictional places, or other things from their creative minds.

794
00:39:39.600 --> 00:39:44.600
So you have this ability to create so much meaning

795
00:39:46.440 --> 00:39:49.280
that aren't just limited to words.

796
00:39:49.280 --> 00:39:53.480
So number two is a ritualistic and symbolic function.

797
00:39:53.480 --> 00:39:56.760
So in many cultures, art is used in religion,

798
00:39:56.760 --> 00:40:00.040
spiritual or magical rituals, performances.

799
00:40:00.000 --> 00:40:06.560
dances as a decoration or symbol of a God or other divine quality. So with us as Christians,

800
00:40:06.560 --> 00:40:11.520
we are wanting to reveal the nature and character of God as Father, Son, and Holy Spirit,

801
00:40:12.160 --> 00:40:18.560
and give full honor and expression to who he is. But this is also art just in the world,

802
00:40:18.560 --> 00:40:23.600
we're talking about that. So while these often have no specific utilitarian purpose,

803
00:40:23.600 --> 00:40:27.920
anthropologists know that they often serve a purpose at the level of meaning within a

804
00:40:27.920 --> 00:40:32.880
particular culture. So this meaning is not furnished by any one individual, but is often

805
00:40:32.880 --> 00:40:39.120
the result of many generations of change and understanding, and of a cosmological relationship

806
00:40:39.120 --> 00:40:45.840
within the culture. So number three is communication. So this is all purposes of art.

807
00:40:46.880 --> 00:40:53.600
So communication, art at its simplest, is a form of communication. Most forms of communication

808
00:40:53.600 --> 00:40:59.840
have an intent or goal directed towards other people. Illustrative arts, such as scientific

809
00:40:59.840 --> 00:41:06.000
illustration, are a form of art as communication. Maps are another example. However, the content

810
00:41:06.000 --> 00:41:12.240
need not be scientific. Stories and emotions and feelings are also communicated through art.

811
00:41:13.280 --> 00:41:19.840
Number four is entertainment. Art may seek to bring about a particular emotion or mood for

812
00:41:19.840 --> 00:41:25.600
the purpose of relaxing or entertaining the viewer. This is often the function of art industries,

813
00:41:25.600 --> 00:41:31.280
such as motion pictures or video games. And of course, more traditional art, some as being

814
00:41:31.280 --> 00:41:36.720
paintings or sculpture, are simply meant to be enjoyable. Aren't we just grateful for that,

815
00:41:36.720 --> 00:41:44.800
that art as entertainment, it just soothes us, it revives, yeah, it's entertaining,

816
00:41:44.800 --> 00:41:51.120
but it's also healing. You know, art can be very healing and restorative and just relaxing, you know,

817
00:41:51.120 --> 00:41:55.520
with all the things that we have to juggle in our day, with the stresses, the ups and downs, twists,

818
00:41:55.520 --> 00:42:04.000
turns. I'm so grateful that God gave us the gift of beauty and art to just remind us of heaven,

819
00:42:04.000 --> 00:42:10.800
you know, remind us of the beauty of who he is and all that is created in life is a gift.

820
00:42:11.760 --> 00:42:17.600
Number five, the purpose of art is political change. One of the defining functions of early 20th

821
00:42:17.600 --> 00:42:24.560
century art has been to use visual images to bring about political change. Art movements have had

822
00:42:24.560 --> 00:42:32.000
this goal. The purpose of art continues today in many objects aimed at exposing corruption of the

823
00:42:32.000 --> 00:42:36.800
ruling class, including government, the wealthy and corporations. And we see that, right,

824
00:42:37.120 --> 00:42:44.000
especially in our day with all the social media, with all of the technology, with all the brilliance

825
00:42:44.000 --> 00:42:54.640
that we have in this technological age and the gift of creativity, we see how art is very powerful

826
00:42:54.640 --> 00:43:00.960
in communicating in the realm of politics, in the realm of getting a point across. It's not just

827
00:43:00.960 --> 00:43:10.000
someone standing and talking, gosh, images, music, movies, it captivates us. It engages every part of

828
00:43:10.000 --> 00:43:17.760
our mind and our soul and it actually gets us, it really pulls us into something that we believe in

829
00:43:17.760 --> 00:43:22.400
or we don't, maybe we don't even agree with something, but men, people know when they put

830
00:43:22.400 --> 00:43:28.960
visuals and music and art and beauty and they captivate the human heart, they can almost persuade

831
00:43:28.960 --> 00:43:35.920
them to believe anything or try to at least. So political change is one. Number six is social

832
00:43:35.920 --> 00:43:42.000
causes. Art can be used to raise awareness for a large variety of causes. A number of art activities

833
00:43:42.000 --> 00:43:48.800
are aimed at raising awareness of different health issues, autism, cancer, human trafficking, and a

834
00:43:48.800 --> 00:43:56.320
variety of other topics such as ocean conservation, human rights, murdered and missing individuals,

835
00:43:56.320 --> 00:44:05.120
elder abuse, marriage equality, pollution. Trashing is one, using trash to make fashion is one example

836
00:44:05.120 --> 00:44:12.320
of using art to raise awareness. So social causes, a lot of people use art to again

837
00:44:12.960 --> 00:44:20.080
get behind a movement or a thought or an ideology or something that they're wanting to

838
00:44:20.080 --> 00:44:30.240
to again persuade, to awaken, to grab people's attention, they use art. Number seven is psychological

839
00:44:30.240 --> 00:44:36.160
and healing purposes. This is one of my favorite things about art is art is also used by therapists,

840
00:44:36.160 --> 00:44:39.520
psychotherapists, clinical psychologists as art therapy.

841
00:44:44.160 --> 00:44:49.520
Yeah, there's so many different, I've just written some different ways that art is used

842
00:44:50.240 --> 00:44:56.480
yeah so it says the diagnostic drawing series for example is used to determine

843
00:44:56.480 --> 00:44:59.840
the personality and emotional functioning of a patient of an individual.

844
00:45:00.000 --> 00:45:05.560
The end product, the art object is not the principal goal in this case, but rather a

845
00:45:05.560 --> 00:45:08.640
process of healing through creative acts.

846
00:45:08.640 --> 00:45:11.480
So I don't know if different ones of you have ever tried this.

847
00:45:11.480 --> 00:45:16.820
I'm not a painter myself, but it's been incredibly healing when I go and get a blank canvas and

848
00:45:16.820 --> 00:45:20.520
a whole bunch of paint and I just creatively paint.

849
00:45:20.520 --> 00:45:23.200
I'm like a five-year-old finger painting.

850
00:45:23.200 --> 00:45:27.020
It doesn't look good to anyone else, but it is so healing to me.

851
00:45:27.020 --> 00:45:31.900
Or when you dance or when maybe I'm making a new meal and I'm throwing a whole bunch

852
00:45:31.900 --> 00:45:36.040
of different foods together and flavors, it's healing, right?

853
00:45:36.040 --> 00:45:41.420
Or singing, or sometimes you just lay down in nature, go to a river, go to an ocean,

854
00:45:41.420 --> 00:45:45.420
go in the forest, and you're listening to a beautiful piece of music.

855
00:45:45.420 --> 00:45:50.580
Or you go to a museum and you're just stressed out or whatever it is, and you just need that

856
00:45:50.580 --> 00:45:51.580
healing.

857
00:45:51.580 --> 00:45:58.700
So what you actually do, art, has an expression of healing pain, of grief, of trauma.

858
00:45:58.700 --> 00:46:00.340
Maybe you've gone through something really hard.

859
00:46:00.340 --> 00:46:03.780
Maybe you've gone through a divorce, or maybe you've lost a loved one, or maybe you're in

860
00:46:03.780 --> 00:46:05.960
chronic illness yourself.

861
00:46:05.960 --> 00:46:08.100
Maybe you're processing childhood trauma.

862
00:46:08.100 --> 00:46:09.900
Maybe there's a difficulty.

863
00:46:09.900 --> 00:46:11.140
Maybe you've gone bankrupt.

864
00:46:11.140 --> 00:46:12.340
Maybe you've lost something.

865
00:46:12.340 --> 00:46:18.380
Maybe you're just in a really difficult time right now in your life, fill in the blank.

866
00:46:18.380 --> 00:46:20.860
Artistic expression can be incredibly healing.

867
00:46:20.860 --> 00:46:21.860
It's releasing.

868
00:46:21.860 --> 00:46:22.860
It's refreshing.

869
00:46:22.860 --> 00:46:23.860
It's renewing.

870
00:46:23.860 --> 00:46:24.860
You encounter God.

871
00:46:24.860 --> 00:46:30.140
There's a part of you and your soul that you're able to connect with and find healing in,

872
00:46:30.140 --> 00:46:32.100
in your expression.

873
00:46:32.100 --> 00:46:37.700
So moving on to the final one, number eight purpose of art is propaganda or commercialism.

874
00:46:37.700 --> 00:46:43.540
Art is often utilized as a form of propaganda and thus can be used subtly to influence popular

875
00:46:43.540 --> 00:46:48.500
conceptions or mood, especially regarding political issues.

876
00:46:48.500 --> 00:46:53.780
In a similar way, art that tries to sell a product also influences mood and emotion.

877
00:46:53.780 --> 00:46:59.220
In both cases, the purpose of art here is to subtly manipulate the viewer into a particular

878
00:46:59.220 --> 00:47:03.660
emotional or psychological response towards a particular idea.

879
00:47:03.660 --> 00:47:05.380
How many of us know that, right?

880
00:47:05.380 --> 00:47:07.620
I can have, especially as Christians, right?

881
00:47:07.620 --> 00:47:13.020
We can have really strong core values, biblical worldview, biblical understanding of things.

882
00:47:13.020 --> 00:47:18.160
And then we turn on the TV and they're selling yogurt, but it's a woman in a bikini doing

883
00:47:18.820 --> 00:47:19.820
all these sexual things.

884
00:47:19.820 --> 00:47:25.120
And you're thinking you're selling yogurt in a very interesting way.

885
00:47:25.120 --> 00:47:33.560
Why are you, you know, but the artistic expression of that feminine woman trying to use her sexuality

886
00:47:33.560 --> 00:47:40.800
to sell a yogurt or to sell a car, or maybe someone's doing, like, I saw this really powerful

887
00:47:40.800 --> 00:47:45.120
army recruit recruitment for the army.

888
00:47:45.120 --> 00:47:46.120
And it was powerful.

889
00:47:46.120 --> 00:47:50.040
Like, at the end of it, I was like, I'm ready to sign up for the army.

890
00:47:50.040 --> 00:47:51.040
What are you doing?

891
00:47:51.040 --> 00:47:55.520
Like, the way that they engaged humanity and wanting to make a difference and wanting to

892
00:47:55.520 --> 00:48:02.080
stand up for truth and wanting to be an overcomer and wanting to, you know, stand up for your

893
00:48:02.080 --> 00:48:03.080
fellow countrymen.

894
00:48:03.080 --> 00:48:06.960
And, you know, you always knew you were born for greatness, like the way that they use

895
00:48:06.960 --> 00:48:10.960
music and words and did the videography.

896
00:48:10.960 --> 00:48:17.520
At the end, you were left like totally like wanting to be part of this, like art has an

897
00:48:17.520 --> 00:48:24.120
amazing ability to engage your emotions, to touch into the fabric of the deep part of

898
00:48:24.120 --> 00:48:25.920
our human need.

899
00:48:25.920 --> 00:48:30.080
We have a lot of different human needs, a lot of different ways that, that God created

900
00:48:30.080 --> 00:48:39.880
us for, and he used, he's created art to, to positively, redemptively, restoratively

901
00:48:39.880 --> 00:48:45.600
lead humans into bringing heaven to earth, bringing the nature and character of God,

902
00:48:45.600 --> 00:48:51.560
bringing healing, redemption, restoration, strength, beauty, justice, truth, freedom,

903
00:48:51.560 --> 00:48:55.080
awakening, liberation to the human heart.

904
00:48:55.080 --> 00:49:02.600
But it can also be used in our society, in our world, in our culture to, to play on those

905
00:49:02.600 --> 00:49:03.600
strings.

906
00:49:03.600 --> 00:49:04.600
And we all know that, right?

907
00:49:05.000 --> 00:49:12.880
or advertising or marketing or things with political agendas or different organizations.

908
00:49:12.880 --> 00:49:15.280
And they, they know what they're doing.

909
00:49:15.280 --> 00:49:18.720
Marketing agencies know what they're doing.

910
00:49:18.720 --> 00:49:24.120
Because when you study humanity and you know what makes them feel seen and known and cared

911
00:49:24.120 --> 00:49:30.560
for, and then you add a little music to it, like you can manipulate people, you can really

912
00:49:30.560 --> 00:49:34.520
lead people in a certain way, you know?

913
00:49:35.440 --> 00:49:36.840
And so that is something that we've also seen.

914
00:49:36.840 --> 00:49:42.120
So I'm going to kind of just wrap it up there that the last thing I guess I want to hone

915
00:49:42.120 --> 00:49:49.640
in on, which is something that I said at the very beginning is one of, one of the beautiful

916
00:49:49.640 --> 00:49:57.280
things that I know, as I see through scripture, as I, as I've encountered in my own life is

917
00:49:57.280 --> 00:50:00.040
one of my greatest intentions and motivations.

918
00:50:00.000 --> 00:50:09.740
As a daughter, as a woman, as a follower of Jesus, is to see God's healing, his love,

919
00:50:09.740 --> 00:50:16.980
his voice, his presence, express himself through me in everything that I do.

920
00:50:16.980 --> 00:50:20.540
We see in scripture, it says, whether you eat or you drink, whatever you do, do it for

921
00:50:20.540 --> 00:50:22.140
the glory of God.

922
00:50:22.140 --> 00:50:29.500
I want everything that I create, the words that I speak, the relationships, the creativity,

923
00:50:29.500 --> 00:50:33.520
I want it to be drenched in the presence of God.

924
00:50:33.520 --> 00:50:35.480
I want to leave the world a better place.

925
00:50:35.480 --> 00:50:43.680
I want every person, every interaction that I have, to have God's joy, his nature and

926
00:50:43.680 --> 00:50:49.520
his character, his redemption, his healing, his freedom, his gold.

927
00:50:49.520 --> 00:50:53.520
I want his voice and his presence to be flowing.

928
00:50:53.520 --> 00:50:57.320
Anything that I would create, whether it's a piece of music, whether it's something I

929
00:50:57.320 --> 00:51:03.000
write, whether it's through my photography, I want to capture something of the heart of

930
00:51:03.000 --> 00:51:08.440
God, of what he thinks and he feels about something, and then I want to bring expression

931
00:51:08.440 --> 00:51:14.120
to that so that the hearer or the viewer or the human on the other side of anything that

932
00:51:14.120 --> 00:51:21.360
I create feels seen, feels known, feels the love of God, is awakened in their humanity

933
00:51:21.360 --> 00:51:29.440
and their consciousness to God's light, his voice, his presence, that anything is possible,

934
00:51:29.440 --> 00:51:33.960
that there is a father in heaven that sees them and knows them and that they're important

935
00:51:33.960 --> 00:51:36.360
and that they're alive for such a time as this.

936
00:51:36.360 --> 00:51:44.280
I want the redemptive, restorative, oh, sometimes you just struggle to put it all into words.

937
00:51:44.280 --> 00:51:51.080
I just want God, his manifestation of his joy and his love and his sight and his goodness,

938
00:51:51.080 --> 00:51:57.160
the goodness, the kindness, the glory of God to be expressed and felt and experienced

939
00:51:57.160 --> 00:52:01.600
by every person that would taste or touch or experience anything I create.

940
00:52:01.600 --> 00:52:02.760
Can I get an amen?

941
00:52:02.760 --> 00:52:03.760
Is that all of our hearts?

942
00:52:03.760 --> 00:52:05.240
I think so, right?

943
00:52:05.240 --> 00:52:11.560
And I think sometimes in our artistic expression too, if we can get really raw and honest,

944
00:52:11.560 --> 00:52:17.320
we're all born with a desire for significance and for greatness, and we want to experience

945
00:52:17.320 --> 00:52:20.160
his favor, favor with God and favor with man.

946
00:52:20.240 --> 00:52:25.640
And I think sometimes there's this wrestle that we go through in our walk with the Lord

947
00:52:25.640 --> 00:52:27.720
too is we want to be known.

948
00:52:27.720 --> 00:52:28.920
We want significance.

949
00:52:28.920 --> 00:52:30.520
We want influence.

950
00:52:30.520 --> 00:52:35.600
Sometimes there can be like, I want fame or I want money or I want attention or I want

951
00:52:35.600 --> 00:52:36.600
all of these things.

952
00:52:36.600 --> 00:52:39.520
And all of those things aren't bad in of themselves.

953
00:52:39.520 --> 00:52:45.240
We see in the disciples, they longed for greatness, but Jesus taught them the true road to greatness

954
00:52:45.240 --> 00:52:46.240
and what that looks like.

955
00:52:46.320 --> 00:52:51.600
And he never shut them down for the longings of their human heart, but he led them in what

956
00:52:51.600 --> 00:52:53.560
true greatness looked like.

957
00:52:53.560 --> 00:52:58.400
And Jesus took the towel and he went and washed the disciples feet.

958
00:52:58.400 --> 00:53:02.720
And I think one of the greatest things is that if we have a servant's heart, when it

959
00:53:02.720 --> 00:53:07.240
comes to art, that we actually see faces of people that we're serving.

960
00:53:07.240 --> 00:53:10.120
We actually have a vision that's larger than us.

961
00:53:10.120 --> 00:53:16.040
We actually are so confident that we, our greatness, our significance before the father,

962
00:53:16.040 --> 00:53:18.480
we're getting that met by him.

963
00:53:18.480 --> 00:53:23.880
So then we're able to express and live from a confident place as sons and daughters.

964
00:53:23.880 --> 00:53:25.400
We're no longer orphans.

965
00:53:25.400 --> 00:53:30.400
We're no longer out there just trying to have other people meet all those needs.

966
00:53:30.400 --> 00:53:35.840
We actually know who we are before the father, and then we're able to create from that place.

967
00:53:35.840 --> 00:53:41.840
And it comes from just a real anchored place, a secure place.

968
00:53:41.840 --> 00:53:47.840
And the invitation to seek first the kingdom and his righteousness, and all of these things

969
00:53:47.840 --> 00:53:49.200
will be added.

970
00:53:49.200 --> 00:53:56.400
Those deepest dreams and desires of your heart, whatever it is that you desire, the provision,

971
00:53:56.400 --> 00:54:04.320
the significance, the house, the car, the family, the possessions, seek first his kingdom

972
00:54:04.320 --> 00:54:09.780
and his righteousness, and all these things will be added.

973
00:54:09.780 --> 00:54:13.220
In his time, in his way, he is so good.

974
00:54:13.220 --> 00:54:16.780
He is the father of heavenly lights that gives good gifts to his children.

975
00:54:16.780 --> 00:54:19.660
And so we can say, oh, I don't have to be motivated by money.

976
00:54:19.660 --> 00:54:21.420
I don't have to be motivated by fame.

977
00:54:21.420 --> 00:54:25.660
I don't have to be motivated by trying to get my significance or trying to be known

978
00:54:25.660 --> 00:54:26.900
by man.

979
00:54:26.900 --> 00:54:31.780
When I fully know I'm known by the father, and I seek first his kingdom, and I come alive

980
00:54:31.780 --> 00:54:37.860
to who he is, and I get lost in love and relationship with God, and things start to flow from that

981
00:54:37.940 --> 00:54:44.260
place, oh my gosh, things open up, provision comes, abundance comes, relationships come,

982
00:54:44.260 --> 00:54:49.060
vibe comes, oh my gosh, these possessions, these different dreams and desires, these

983
00:54:49.060 --> 00:54:55.140
divine connections, these opportunities, seek first the kingdom, and all of this will be added.

984
00:54:55.140 --> 00:54:59.860
And the other thing is just that the greatest commandment is to love the Lord your God with all

985
00:55:00.000 --> 00:55:02.600
of your heart, soul, mind, and strength.

986
00:55:02.600 --> 00:55:05.120
And so when we yield to that, when we surrender to that,

987
00:55:05.120 --> 00:55:07.760
God, I want to love you with my mind, with my heart,

988
00:55:07.760 --> 00:55:09.480
with my soul, with my body.

989
00:55:09.480 --> 00:55:11.680
I am a temple of the Holy Spirit.

990
00:55:11.680 --> 00:55:13.400
Come and fill me.

991
00:55:13.400 --> 00:55:15.000
And then out of that place,

992
00:55:15.000 --> 00:55:17.640
I want to be faithful with what you've given me.

993
00:55:17.640 --> 00:55:19.240
I want to steward what you've given me.

994
00:55:19.240 --> 00:55:20.160
Is it one talent?

995
00:55:20.160 --> 00:55:20.980
Is it two?

996
00:55:20.980 --> 00:55:21.820
Is it three?

997
00:55:21.820 --> 00:55:22.660
Is it five?

998
00:55:22.660 --> 00:55:23.480
Is it a hundred?

999
00:55:23.480 --> 00:55:24.320
Whatever you've given to me,

1000
00:55:24.320 --> 00:55:26.240
it's not about comparison with anyone else.

1001
00:55:26.240 --> 00:55:28.920
This is about me being faithful to steward the gifts

1002
00:55:28.920 --> 00:55:29.920
and the talents.

1003
00:55:29.920 --> 00:55:33.160
And just like Eric Liddell in the chariots of fire,

1004
00:55:33.160 --> 00:55:35.920
he was like, when I run, I feel his pleasure.

1005
00:55:35.920 --> 00:55:39.280
And when I win the race, I do it to honor him.

1006
00:55:39.280 --> 00:55:41.760
It's like, yeah, I want excellence on my life.

1007
00:55:41.760 --> 00:55:44.120
I want to return the gifts and the talents

1008
00:55:44.120 --> 00:55:46.800
and show the father I'm bearing fruit,

1009
00:55:46.800 --> 00:55:50.200
fruit that will remain, fruit that will nourish humanity,

1010
00:55:50.200 --> 00:55:53.720
that will add value, that will beautify the earth,

1011
00:55:53.720 --> 00:55:56.760
art and creativity that will reveal heaven,

1012
00:55:56.760 --> 00:55:58.960
that will have a healing, redemptive,

1013
00:55:58.960 --> 00:56:02.160
restorative activity on the earth.

1014
00:56:02.160 --> 00:56:05.520
Ultimately that God will come through prophecy,

1015
00:56:05.520 --> 00:56:08.080
through change, through encouragement,

1016
00:56:08.080 --> 00:56:10.980
through exhortation, through beauty,

1017
00:56:10.980 --> 00:56:13.040
through awakening, through liberation,

1018
00:56:13.040 --> 00:56:15.280
through freedom to the human heart.

1019
00:56:15.280 --> 00:56:16.480
That is my intention.

1020
00:56:16.480 --> 00:56:18.160
That's my motivation.

1021
00:56:18.160 --> 00:56:21.760
So I hope this has been encouraging to you.

1022
00:56:21.760 --> 00:56:23.140
I hope I haven't talked too long.

1023
00:56:23.140 --> 00:56:24.360
I know that was a long time,

1024
00:56:24.360 --> 00:56:26.160
but I'm hoping that there is some stuff

1025
00:56:26.160 --> 00:56:29.760
that was sparking for you, maybe stuff that was confirming,

1026
00:56:29.760 --> 00:56:32.720
maybe Holy Spirit's coming and speaking to you

1027
00:56:32.720 --> 00:56:36.080
and just encouraging you like, yes, this is why you're alive.

1028
00:56:36.080 --> 00:56:39.400
Like, feel my joy and delight over you

1029
00:56:39.400 --> 00:56:41.360
and how I've created you.

1030
00:56:41.360 --> 00:56:43.360
And you don't have to hold that back.

1031
00:56:43.360 --> 00:56:45.480
You don't have to be limited.

1032
00:56:45.480 --> 00:56:47.960
You can fully just let go and be like,

1033
00:56:47.960 --> 00:56:50.120
God, come release your abundance.

1034
00:56:50.120 --> 00:56:51.760
Come release your anointing.

1035
00:56:51.760 --> 00:56:53.080
Come release your strength.

1036
00:56:53.080 --> 00:56:57.780
Come release your grace upon me to take my talents,

1037
00:56:57.780 --> 00:57:00.520
my gifts, how I've been divinely created

1038
00:57:00.520 --> 00:57:03.600
and cause there to be an explosion of fruit,

1039
00:57:03.600 --> 00:57:08.600
an explosion of like an X factor, an upgrade.

1040
00:57:09.440 --> 00:57:13.240
Like I'd take my fishes and loaves and multiply it.

1041
00:57:13.240 --> 00:57:15.660
Come and do signs, wonders, and miracles

1042
00:57:15.660 --> 00:57:18.220
through my creative expression.

1043
00:57:18.220 --> 00:57:19.060
You know what I mean?

1044
00:57:19.060 --> 00:57:21.520
Whether that's like making a meal for someone

1045
00:57:21.520 --> 00:57:24.040
and it just holds the nature and the love

1046
00:57:24.040 --> 00:57:26.160
and it just makes someone feel seen and known

1047
00:57:26.160 --> 00:57:29.280
through your creative expression of this food you've made

1048
00:57:29.280 --> 00:57:33.000
or you've drawn a building and you've built a home

1049
00:57:33.000 --> 00:57:36.760
for someone or it's a song or it's a poem or it's a letter

1050
00:57:36.760 --> 00:57:38.960
or it's a piece of fashion that when people wear

1051
00:57:38.960 --> 00:57:42.520
that piece of fashion, they feel that they have a garment

1052
00:57:42.520 --> 00:57:44.880
of heaven upon them that inspires them

1053
00:57:44.880 --> 00:57:48.040
and they hold themselves with nobility and regalness

1054
00:57:48.040 --> 00:57:50.640
as a king and a queen, you know, whatever it is.

1055
00:57:50.680 --> 00:57:53.560
It's just bringing that X factor to him

1056
00:57:53.560 --> 00:57:55.840
who is able to do exceedingly abundantly

1057
00:57:55.840 --> 00:57:59.200
more than you could think, hope, dream, or imagine.

1058
00:57:59.200 --> 00:58:02.720
It is the God factor in everything that we do

1059
00:58:02.720 --> 00:58:06.000
and it's just welcoming that anointing upon our lives.

1060
00:58:06.000 --> 00:58:08.440
So Zylan, I'm gonna end there.

1061
00:58:08.440 --> 00:58:10.480
I would love to hear your thoughts.

1062
00:58:12.200 --> 00:58:14.000
Yeah, talk to me.

1063
00:58:14.000 --> 00:58:16.360
Wow, it's amazing, Dana.

1064
00:58:16.360 --> 00:58:17.800
I think I don't have anything to say.

1065
00:58:17.800 --> 00:58:20.360
You already covered every point

1066
00:58:20.360 --> 00:58:23.440
that I was actually planning to say.

1067
00:58:23.440 --> 00:58:26.680
Thank you, that was wonderful.

1068
00:58:26.680 --> 00:58:29.600
And yeah, I just wanted to add something.

1069
00:58:29.600 --> 00:58:32.560
Before that, how many of you heard this

1070
00:58:34.040 --> 00:58:35.240
like couple of years ago?

1071
00:58:35.240 --> 00:58:37.920
No, maybe more than 10 years ago.

1072
00:58:37.920 --> 00:58:42.440
There was this Italian artist who made chocolate Jesus.

1073
00:58:42.440 --> 00:58:46.480
He made a six feet Jesus, nude Jesus, naked Jesus

1074
00:58:46.480 --> 00:58:47.800
in dark chocolate.

1075
00:58:48.920 --> 00:58:53.920
And he called that piece,

1076
00:58:54.040 --> 00:58:55.920
My Sweet Lord.

1077
00:58:55.920 --> 00:59:00.440
And the entire Catholic church got crazy, you know,

1078
00:59:00.440 --> 00:59:05.040
and it was a big controversy at that time.

1079
00:59:05.040 --> 00:59:10.040
And so since we are talking about intention and motivation,

1080
00:59:10.920 --> 00:59:13.840
he's not a Christian artist.

1081
00:59:13.840 --> 00:59:16.040
Since we are here, you know,

1082
00:59:16.040 --> 00:59:21.040
calling ourselves kingdom creatives.

1083
00:59:21.080 --> 00:59:23.200
So we are addressing to a people

1084
00:59:23.200 --> 00:59:28.200
who are actually artists who are Christians.

1085
00:59:28.360 --> 00:59:33.360
And one of the things that I just wanna agree with Dana

1086
00:59:35.520 --> 00:59:38.000
is like as an artist, not just Christian artists,

1087
00:59:38.000 --> 00:59:43.000
like we are here to record time, right?

1088
00:59:43.360 --> 00:59:46.800
So the time that we are in living

1089
00:59:46.800 --> 00:59:51.800
and some people make art to confront, you know,

1090
00:59:52.760 --> 00:59:54.040
what's wrong.

1091
00:59:54.040 --> 00:59:57.880
And some people here to reflect, I mean,

1092
00:59:57.880 --> 00:59:59.960
where, what's happening.

1093
01:00:00.000 --> 01:00:05.440
all those kind of stuff. And some people do art to lead to a better place. And

1094
01:00:07.120 --> 01:00:15.600
one of the things that I was observed in the church, because we grew up in this

1095
01:00:17.520 --> 01:00:24.000
American evangelical backdrop. So all of our artists, unfortunately,

1096
01:00:24.000 --> 01:00:33.280
I'll explain, okay, it can sound a little crazy. Unfortunately, most of our art actually gonna

1097
01:00:33.280 --> 01:00:41.440
look, I mean, he's looking like, like a pamphlet. We only know one plot. Because, you know,

1098
01:00:43.280 --> 01:00:50.560
all our songs and all our paintings and our expression, and even most of the Christian

1099
01:00:50.560 --> 01:00:56.480
movies, it's all about, you know, preaching the gospel, you know, just like you're a sinner,

1100
01:00:56.480 --> 01:01:03.520
and Jesus died for you. And you repent and believe that, you know, he'll give you an eternal life.

1101
01:01:03.520 --> 01:01:13.520
That's it. And it's been happening, like, maybe more than 300 years, if we, if we really study

1102
01:01:13.520 --> 01:01:20.240
the history of Christian songs, it's all about that, you know, there is not much plot, bigger

1103
01:01:20.240 --> 01:01:28.800
than that. So it's a very noble thing to do, you know, to, to tell people that God loves them. And,

1104
01:01:28.800 --> 01:01:34.160
you know, through your creative expression, it's a great thing to do. I believe in that thing.

1105
01:01:34.160 --> 01:01:38.960
But some people are actually we need to increase, you know, in the beginning, Dana said that we need

1106
01:01:38.960 --> 01:01:45.680
to celebrate everyone's intention and motivation. At the end of the day, you know, we are here to

1107
01:01:45.680 --> 01:01:54.480
bring God's heart and his love to people. And unfortunately, what we do is when we approach,

1108
01:01:56.480 --> 01:02:01.760
approach God or Bible, we start from Genesis three, instead of Genesis one, you know,

1109
01:02:02.800 --> 01:02:09.520
we actually start our entire story from the fall. You know, it's not the fall that we start,

1110
01:02:09.520 --> 01:02:15.360
we start from before that, you know, where God made everything and he saw it's good, it's beautiful.

1111
01:02:16.160 --> 01:02:23.120
You know, that's where the entire story starts, actually. And unfortunately, we actually start

1112
01:02:23.120 --> 01:02:31.840
from the third chapter, you know, how we messed up. And, and so our thing is all about this

1113
01:02:31.840 --> 01:02:37.760
transactional thing, you know, it's actually not theology. So obviously, it will reflect on whatever

1114
01:02:37.760 --> 01:02:42.800
we do, you know, check out all the Christian songs, it's all about this plot, you know,

1115
01:02:42.800 --> 01:02:49.200
just Lord, I'm a sinner, you came and you died. And here I am, here I am. It's a beautiful thing.

1116
01:02:49.200 --> 01:02:59.600
But I think that we live in a world, and a time that we need to rethink, and we need to recheck

1117
01:02:59.600 --> 01:03:08.320
our, our ideology. And I believe the revelation is progressive, each time is actually unfolding,

1118
01:03:08.320 --> 01:03:16.640
you know, and we live in a time where God is actually looking for sons, you know, he's looking

1119
01:03:16.640 --> 01:03:23.920
for sons and daughters to raise up and represent him, you know, and create this place beautiful

1120
01:03:23.920 --> 01:03:31.520
and help the people to see this place is a beautiful place, you know, and to find meaning

1121
01:03:31.520 --> 01:03:37.840
and find direction, you know, and I believe that every artist doesn't matter if he's a Christian or

1122
01:03:38.320 --> 01:03:45.040
non Christian artists, everybody carries a mandala prophetic in their lives, you know,

1123
01:03:45.040 --> 01:03:52.960
all our prophets, because the ministry of prophet prophecy is there is to confront and, you know,

1124
01:03:52.960 --> 01:04:02.880
and, and reflect and, and ultimately lead to people to a brighter side, maybe a closer to God,

1125
01:04:02.880 --> 01:04:09.680
you know, God made everything beautiful. I've read somewhere that it's, it just changed my

1126
01:04:09.680 --> 01:04:17.760
perspective or about everything. I've read it somewhere that God only cast out humans from Eden,

1127
01:04:18.480 --> 01:04:23.120
and rest of the creatures are still in need. And I was like, what?

1128
01:04:25.920 --> 01:04:32.720
I was actually blown away from that thought. I was like, literally changed my entire theology.

1129
01:04:33.840 --> 01:04:40.960
You know, seeing things, you know, every time when I listen to the birds, you know, sing,

1130
01:04:40.960 --> 01:04:46.640
singing in the morning and everything and I was like, kind of, they're still in the bliss,

1131
01:04:46.640 --> 01:04:55.120
you know, they're still actually celebrating God's beauty. I have this issue of I'm still

1132
01:04:55.120 --> 01:04:59.920
working on my thing. You know, I'm, I'm

1133
01:05:00.000 --> 01:05:02.680
I'm hard to impress, you know,

1134
01:05:02.680 --> 01:05:04.100
because everything that I see,

1135
01:05:04.100 --> 01:05:06.440
I can see only the negative stuff.

1136
01:05:06.440 --> 01:05:11.120
So, I had this kind of a really bad

1137
01:05:14.560 --> 01:05:18.040
attitude or bad way of seeing things, you know.

1138
01:05:18.040 --> 01:05:20.960
I only see the imperfection, the negative.

1139
01:05:20.960 --> 01:05:24.080
Oh, it's not that great, you know, that kind of thing.

1140
01:05:24.080 --> 01:05:29.080
Eventually what happened, it literally spoiled my heart

1141
01:05:29.560 --> 01:05:34.160
because I came to a place where I become a very bitter

1142
01:05:34.160 --> 01:05:36.560
person, a miserable person, you know,

1143
01:05:36.560 --> 01:05:39.840
because I cannot enjoy the beauty.

1144
01:05:39.840 --> 01:05:43.160
And I realized that it's my problem, you know.

1145
01:05:43.160 --> 01:05:45.480
So, I'm actually teaching myself.

1146
01:05:45.480 --> 01:05:49.420
It's been a journey to see things different

1147
01:05:49.420 --> 01:05:50.760
and appreciate beauty.

1148
01:05:50.760 --> 01:05:55.400
And what happened is it literally changed me as a person.

1149
01:05:55.400 --> 01:06:00.400
And I believe that we are here to help people to see,

1150
01:06:02.360 --> 01:06:06.260
you know, this beautiful place as a,

1151
01:06:07.400 --> 01:06:11.400
that's why the Bible says that the creation is waiting,

1152
01:06:11.400 --> 01:06:16.400
you know, for the revelation of the sons of God, you know,

1153
01:06:16.760 --> 01:06:21.440
because we are here to co-create with the spirit of Jesus,

1154
01:06:21.440 --> 01:06:26.440
to bring the kingdom, you know, here as it is in heaven.

1155
01:06:26.680 --> 01:06:30.720
So, we are sons and daughters carrying the same spirit.

1156
01:06:30.720 --> 01:06:35.000
And, you know, and as kingdom creative,

1157
01:06:35.000 --> 01:06:38.200
so our intentions and our motivation should be,

1158
01:06:39.400 --> 01:06:42.240
this is what I believe that should be, you know,

1159
01:06:44.400 --> 01:06:49.400
like as Diana said that to just help people to see

1160
01:06:49.400 --> 01:06:52.880
the father's heart, you know, to celebrate life,

1161
01:06:52.880 --> 01:06:57.880
celebrate Jesus, celebrate humanity, you know,

1162
01:06:57.920 --> 01:07:01.680
and there are good things happening in this world, man.

1163
01:07:01.680 --> 01:07:04.080
The thing is, we only focus on bad things.

1164
01:07:04.080 --> 01:07:07.760
I have rearranged my social media like long time back.

1165
01:07:07.760 --> 01:07:11.560
I like now when I open all my feeds are like,

1166
01:07:11.560 --> 01:07:15.800
I wanna know what good happening around the world, you know,

1167
01:07:16.720 --> 01:07:21.120
because all my feed news was like, you know,

1168
01:07:22.120 --> 01:07:26.920
against my, all the bad stuff happening around the world,

1169
01:07:26.920 --> 01:07:30.240
you know, and I rearranged that.

1170
01:07:30.240 --> 01:07:33.160
And I found out that there are a lot of good things

1171
01:07:33.160 --> 01:07:38.000
happening around me and I'm not able to see it.

1172
01:07:38.000 --> 01:07:43.000
So, you know, so I started writing, I'm a worship leader.

1173
01:07:43.640 --> 01:07:47.520
I used to write a lot of worship songs and I still do it.

1174
01:07:47.520 --> 01:07:49.840
And I travel around and, you know,

1175
01:07:49.840 --> 01:07:52.520
lead congregation to worship

1176
01:07:52.520 --> 01:07:57.520
and do all the usual worship leader stuff.

1177
01:07:58.520 --> 01:08:02.640
Then I, a couple of years back, I started writing songs,

1178
01:08:02.640 --> 01:08:07.640
which is not, you know, doesn't have much Christian language

1179
01:08:08.640 --> 01:08:13.160
and the church started to like, you know,

1180
01:08:13.160 --> 01:08:15.760
think that I'm backsliding.

1181
01:08:18.000 --> 01:08:22.040
But the thing is, I just upgraded my theology, you know,

1182
01:08:22.040 --> 01:08:25.760
I understood that this is huge.

1183
01:08:25.760 --> 01:08:29.600
What I am carrying is big,

1184
01:08:29.600 --> 01:08:34.160
because that's why he called us as salt and light, you know,

1185
01:08:34.160 --> 01:08:36.880
because there are people who can't see, you know,

1186
01:08:36.920 --> 01:08:40.120
there are lives which is tasteless.

1187
01:08:40.120 --> 01:08:44.960
Now without me, it's gonna be still tasteless, you know?

1188
01:08:44.960 --> 01:08:49.960
And so I started writing about stuff like

1189
01:08:50.040 --> 01:08:54.279
addressing about depression and, you know, hopelessness,

1190
01:08:54.279 --> 01:08:58.200
all the stuff that everyone face.

1191
01:08:58.200 --> 01:09:01.960
And I feel good, but the thing is sometimes

1192
01:09:01.960 --> 01:09:04.120
the church is actually so caught up

1193
01:09:04.120 --> 01:09:06.680
with their little theology,

1194
01:09:07.399 --> 01:09:10.000
because what will happen,

1195
01:09:10.000 --> 01:09:14.120
because it's the, how do we say that?

1196
01:09:14.120 --> 01:09:17.200
You know, they're thinking that, you know,

1197
01:09:17.200 --> 01:09:19.640
they are not socially responsible

1198
01:09:19.640 --> 01:09:24.640
because they are waiting for the Lord to come

1199
01:09:25.359 --> 01:09:26.880
and just fly away, you know?

1200
01:09:26.880 --> 01:09:29.680
So there is no responsibility,

1201
01:09:29.680 --> 01:09:34.680
but that's not Bible, I mean, in my understanding, you know?

1202
01:09:35.319 --> 01:09:37.600
Bible is all about art.

1203
01:09:37.600 --> 01:09:39.800
Everything is all about just love your God

1204
01:09:39.800 --> 01:09:42.880
and love your neighbor, you know?

1205
01:09:42.880 --> 01:09:46.319
This vertical sort of connection, whatever we do,

1206
01:09:46.319 --> 01:09:48.319
if you can't bring that thing, you know,

1207
01:09:50.439 --> 01:09:52.960
there is no point of doing it, you know?

1208
01:09:52.960 --> 01:09:57.960
So as an artist or a human being, you know, whatever it is,

1209
01:09:58.880 --> 01:09:59.720
it should,

1210
01:10:00.000 --> 01:10:07.600
on this love factor that we can't love an invisible God without loving a visible brother

1211
01:10:07.600 --> 01:10:17.200
or a sister. Now if we can't see the image of God in my Hindu neighbor, there's no point of me being

1212
01:10:17.200 --> 01:10:24.080
Christian, you know. If I can't see Jesus in them, they are Hindus and there are Muslims out there.

1213
01:10:24.080 --> 01:10:32.640
I can't see Jesus in them, the image of Jesus, the love of God, you know, showered upon their lives.

1214
01:10:33.360 --> 01:10:40.400
What's the point of me singing about love and Jesus and all, you know. So it's all about being

1215
01:10:40.400 --> 01:10:50.000
sons, son becoming mature sons, you know, mature sons who reflect father, who carries father's

1216
01:10:50.000 --> 01:10:57.360
heart and that's what I just wanted to like, you know, emphasize that it's all about,

1217
01:10:58.800 --> 01:11:05.440
you know, sharing God with your neighbor, you know, whatever you do, you know.

1218
01:11:07.600 --> 01:11:15.600
And please don't get me wrong that I really celebrate people who actually do art and

1219
01:11:15.600 --> 01:11:22.880
movies and make music and to evangelize, you know, it's a noble thing to do it.

1220
01:11:23.680 --> 01:11:31.120
But, you know, I want people, I want to see church to grow bigger just to get out from their four

1221
01:11:31.120 --> 01:11:37.920
walls because church is wherever we go, you know. And when I started to write this

1222
01:11:38.400 --> 01:11:46.960
non-Christian songs, people started asking, is that a secular song? I was like, no, it's a Christian

1223
01:11:46.960 --> 01:11:51.760
song, but it doesn't sound like a Christian song. I said that because I'm a Christian.

1224
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So whatever I do, it's a Christian thing, right? And yeah, it's a beautiful thing,

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but we have to broaden our mindset. So that's why we are actually building a community like this,

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not just to have conversation about maybe theology. I know that there are many people here

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who really don't agree with what I'm saying, but I'm open to have a communication, a conversation,

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a dialogue, you know, that's the whole point. And we are coming from a different

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denomination, theology, you know, perspective, worldview about

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why we do what we do. And that's okay, you know. So if we can come to a place where we can

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have dialogues and encourage each other, celebrate each other,

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then that's the most beautiful thing we can do.

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Yeah, I think Fee is here. Yes, he is. Zylan, that was so good. Oh, it's so good hearing your heart.

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When you were talking about creation from Genesis 3, but we need to go after Genesis 1,

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I was sitting here like, literally, I was just like, oh my gosh. It brings me back to Psalm 24,

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I believe, where it talks about the earth is the Lord and everything in it, like everything.

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Everything he made was good. And yes, we do live in a fallen world. We do live in a reality

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where there are a mixture of the good things that God has created, where people maybe take it and

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01:13:34.640 --> 01:13:40.880
use it for a twisted way or a dark way or in an evil way. But redemptively and restoratively,

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when we go back to original intent and original design in who God is, it was just such a reset

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for me of going, wow, yeah, I want to create from Eden, not just create from the fall. I want to

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walk with you in the cool of the day. I want to walk with you in Eden and eat from the tree of

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life, not the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, where I'm just living. And we're not called

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to live from the tree of eating from knowledge of good and evil constantly every day being like,

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is this good? Is this bad? Is this evil? Is this good? No, no. We're actually called, created to

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live from the tree of life. Is this life-giving? Is there abundance? What is the beauty? What is

1247
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the nurture? What is the river of joy? All of that goodness, right? So I just love what you

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were sharing. I also just was reminded of something of just, you know, you were talking about the salt

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and the light that we are meant to bring flavor and we're meant to bring light in the midst of

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01:14:40.800 --> 01:14:46.560
the darkness and color and beauty. It's like when you see a dark night and you see fireworks go off,

1251
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it causes this like awe and wonder of like, I didn't realize there could be that kind of color.

1252
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And when you taste a meal and you have salt to it, it brings out all the other flavors. And so

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just as you were saying,

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as sons and daughters we're not just Christian in a religious spirit of Pharisees and well I'm

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Christian and I've got my Christian hat on no no no we're sons and we're daughters that are revealing

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a totally other kingdom and we're revealing a person not a religious institution not a way of

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doctrine of thinking we're revealing a person and that is the father that is the beloved of heaven

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that is Jesus that is Holy Spirit and when we shift that way of thinking yes there's doctrine

1259
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yes there are so much theology but we're constantly learning and upgrading and at the

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heart of that theology is the revelation of a person and so it just changes everything when

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we think about it and the last thing I'll say before we go to Fi because we're so glad that

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Fi is here with us um is one of the intentions of art is to communicate to people that wouldn't be

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able to know or hear the gospel story in another way and one of the things I love I don't know if

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you guys know this but when I learned this I was like oh my gosh in cathedrals and churches you

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know how there's stained glass as art in all of the old European churches the motivation behind

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that was there was people that were illiterate they didn't know how to read they didn't know how

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to write so they couldn't read the bible and they're only like one of the ways behind the

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stained glass was to communicate the gospel story through art so when they would come to church

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yes they would hear the preaching they hear the hymns but they would literally visually be able

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to see the gospel story they would visually be able to see God's heart through stained glass

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when I understood that but there was a motivation behind that I was like wow it is for expression

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and beauty but it was for a divine purpose to reveal certain parables stories so that people

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could hear could see isn't that amazing and that's what we were talking about earlier the purpose of

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art is to communicate and it's to communicate the heart of God but it doesn't always have to use

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words and just like Zylin was saying he's a worship leader he's writing songs but then when

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he began to write about different things of the human experience if you were to look through the

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book of psalms David is like talking about depression he's talking about lament grief oh

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my gosh I've sinned I've just been in adultery I just killed this person but lord this is my

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heart like he's talking about the full human experience right the ups the downs the good the

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bad and how powerful it is when we hear people that it isn't just all of the christianese language

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when it's actually putting language to the human experience but it's coming from a redemptive a

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healing a loving a comforting you know that when it talks about in corinthians the the role of

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prophecy it's to encourage it's to comfort and to strengthen so when you're creating art

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that comforts you know I remember there's another thing another quote I can't remember who it is by

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but art is meant to comfort um the the disrupted or and disrupt the comfort disturbed disturbed

1286
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disturbed art should comfort the disturbed and disturb the comfort the comfortable right

1287
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that is so powerful of what it actually can do it can disturb us out of our slumber it can awaken us

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it should disturb us it should alert us alarm us bring sobriety but then it should also comfort

1289
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and so when we think about prophesying when we pray over someone we give them a prophetic word

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it should always have the heart to encourage to strengthen to comfort to reveal the heart

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and the father not to judge never to accuse never to shame never to blame never to condemn because

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that's not who god is jesus isn't sitting there just judging condemning pointing the finger he

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lets go of the stones he opens up his arms he brings compassion he brings kindness it's his

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kindness that leads to awakening to repentance it's his compassion that meets us in our most broken

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dark hour and leads us out leads us into love so how do we have art that is fueled by compassion

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that is not judgmental or accusatory or condemning or pointing the finger but it's actually got arms

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open wide it's the father running to the prodigal son putting on the robe the ring putting on a feast

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it's that celebration it's that welcoming home to the father it's that going there's a seat at the

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table for you come feast so xylan i just love what you shared i can't wait to listen to that

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again on repeat it's so good and fee what's up brother how are you where are

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Are you fee? We want to hear from you. If you want to unmute yourself,

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we want to see your beautiful face and hear your voice.

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Hello. Hello. Hi. Hi. Hi. Hi. Good to see you all.

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I know you're just doing that,

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but we've been talking about a whole bunch of different things, teachings,

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and then silence just shared his heart,

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but we would love to hear from you anything in your life as an artist,

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as a creative, or if you want to teach us,

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or if you want to say something that motivates you,

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something that's marked you,

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whatever you have to share on intentions and motivations of art.

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We just want to hear it.

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Yeah. I've heard a little bit about, I've heard a little bit of what you guys

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say and it's yours. It's beautiful. And it's powerful.

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Yeah. When Zion talked about,

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we start when we read the chapter of Genesis,

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we start on the chapter three and it's actually true.

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And thanks for bringing that up,

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Zion. Can you guys hear me? Okay.

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Okay. Great. Yeah.

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Sure. I think,

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I think God created a being that

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who learns through touch and sight

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and smell and hearing and taste.

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And when I imagine how the first

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worship session in heaven, when there was no music instrument yet,

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when there was no singing at the garden,

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because we don't see in Genesis that Adams

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was singing or dancing or whatever.

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But to me, I think the first worship was when,

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when Adam saw,

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Adam saw his face through God's eyes after God,

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the father breathed into his nose.

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Cause I believe God, the father was so close like this.

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And he saw himself in God's eyes and he was like, wow,

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this is beautiful. And I think, I think

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when we, I think that is part of that.

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Wow. Thing is part of why we do what we do when we,

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when we keep being amazed with what,

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even with what God is doing.

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St. Irenaeus, he said,

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said the glory of God is men and women fully alive.

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And then that joined what Diana said,

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when David was sharing about his

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anger, his depression,

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01:23:16.560 --> 01:23:20.120
his joy, he was fully alive. David was,

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he was, he was fully alive. And I think

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for me, that is why I do what I do.

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It's like through my music, I make people feel, I make people think,

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I make people have memories.

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And, and that, that's,

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that is powerful because it helps people to be

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awake, more awake, and to be more aware of,

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of what's around them, what's inside them.

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And also to be aware of God,

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because through my songs, I speak, I don't, I am like silent. I don't,

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I don't use a cliche Christian words in my songs.

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I, I talk about my life, my struggle, my questions,

1359
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my anger, my everything that goes,

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that goes into my head and my life. I share it.

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And, and I think it helps people to

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to see another aspect of a Christian because like we like showing our best side,

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but also as a human, God wants us to be human.

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Otherwise he made us something else.

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And this is part of, I think this deserves to be

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celebrated as well. This part of us that is struggling,

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this part of us that is trying to find the truth, this part of us that is

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tempted, but somehow.

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fight to do the right thing and those things needs to be celebrated and also the beauty

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we see and you know like when sometimes when when this is the power of music or power of

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the lyrics of the music because like when you so there are there are things you cannot

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express you cannot even say but through music you the lyrics sometimes god gives lyrics that

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it's like have you ever been have you ever listened to a song where you say ah this is

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exactly what i want to say is exactly if i this is exactly what i want to say right now to god that

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that is exactly that is it's like you know so that is that is also the power of music and

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and that is part of my motivation when i do music is just to help people to

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because music helps people to be more awake art help people to see colors that

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new colors if i ask you to think about a color that you've never seen before can you do that

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no right but but with god god helps us to see more stuff that we can ever imagine when i write

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song i know my capacity my capacity is just like this but sometimes i write songs that is

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way way way way way way above above my capacity and above my understanding and that that is crazy

1382
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and sometimes i'm like wow this it's so humbling and and it's it's so beautiful when people

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when it's ministering to people um but yeah anyway um it's just that is my motivation

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that is my motivation what i do is just to help people it's just because music it really helps

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people to be more awake um arts help people to be more awake and to see other other things um

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and also um

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you know we cannot enter or leave the presence of god i think that we cannot we cannot say

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let's enter the presence of god or like this is just everywhere it's just everywhere

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there's no place we can hide from him there's no place we cannot so even in the even in the

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most worst place ever you can imagine there's beauty there because god is there and and and

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the david understood that david understood that and and even in his in darkest place

1392
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he knew god is there with him and he knew that that that it's okay it's safe to express it's

1393
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safe to express whatever inside of him he might swear whatever curse or whatever

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but he knew god he is real he's he's like i can hide it but you will know it anyway

1395
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so what's the point i can i can pretend to look nice outside but you will know it anyway

1396
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so what's the point why not being real we can just be real and and god can use it god can use

1397
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that you know sometimes we are tempted to look so perfect to look you know awesome all the time

1398
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especially as a for me as a as a professional artist like here in my country and i know it's

1399
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not only here but you are tempted to always look great but then the enemy is always looking great

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also he only he only shows his best side and when you are tempted then to tempt you you know he

1401
01:29:07.040 --> 01:29:14.480
always shows his best side so if we only show our best side and we're just like him but our difference

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is that we are people real people we are not spiritual being and the flesh is not a disease

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disease that needs to be cured it is a blessing flesh is a blessing our body is a blessing

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everything we see you know i believe that god created all those things for us to

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to enjoy and i am i have a have a little i have a little boy he's still little but

1406
01:29:46.160 --> 01:29:52.640
if i work or if i do something if i buy something for him it's for him to celebrate if i make his

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room pretty it's for him to see it it's for him to enjoy it's for him to feel good and i believe that

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God is similar. I mean, if he made this world beautiful, it's for us to be satisfied, it's for us to be, you know, to enjoy it, to...

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And the simple things becomes worship when it is, when we do it in the presence of the divine.

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Every simple thing. And in our daily life we miss a lot of simple but yet important, very important thing that help us connect and be more awake, help us to connect with God and be more awake in his presence.

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So, yeah, I guess my motivation is that to help people to be more awake, my intention is to help people to be more awake and my motivation is that music is powerful, art is powerful to facilitate that, to make people feel, to make people think, to make them be present in the now, right now, right here.

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And be with God in their anger, in their sadness, in their, you know, in every season of life, in every season of life he is with us.

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Even when we just fall, he is there, he is not shocked, it's not a surprise, it's not a surprise to him, he knows exactly what's gonna happen tomorrow, he knows exactly.

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And in the middle of all those things, I cry out, thank you for your mercy and thank you for, because you see, you see, you see, you know, when you look at me, you see much greater thing than, I'm actually, you know, much more awesome than I think, more, you know,

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because God is crazy good, man, God is crazy good, man, he made us like this, can you even imagine to exist, you know, to breathe, to see, to be able to see, to hear, it's crazy, it's a normal thing, it's simple, but it's crazy if you think about it, it's crazy if you stop and you think,

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to drink water, when you drink water or when you eat, your tongue tests a lot, a lot of tests, like, it's crazy, and it's those small things help us to connect with him, if, you know, to, if we do it in the presence of the divine, in the awareness that he is with us, while we drink this water and then we feel the water go slowly in our throat and then our belly, it's like, ah, thank you, Lord.

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So that is, that is normal thing outside art, but that is worship, that is also, I'm saying a lot of things here.

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So good. I love it. Like, I love how you're tapping into the honesty of our humanity, and the, the joy and the beauty and the tenderness of our human story, and how the Psalm 139 reality that where can I go from God, if I make my bed in the lowest of low the darkest

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of dark, if I have the most incredible blessing, and I'm in the heights of heaven, like, there's nowhere you can go that God is, you don't have to just welcome him or enter in.

1420
01:33:47.000 --> 01:34:03.000
He's always with us. And there is, there is something to be said about being intentional to say, God, you're always on the inside of me and you're always around but God when you walk into the room and there's a tangible manifestation of that presence or that interaction

1421
01:34:03.000 --> 01:34:19.000
of like, it's kind of like almost thinking, like, when you're a parent, it's like, it's almost like you've conceived this child and the child is always with you in your heart but when the child is with you in the room, or in your arms, it's a different experience

1422
01:34:19.000 --> 01:34:34.000
of the closeness, but, or your wife or your spouse it's like they're always with you because you are one, and you're connected, but then when they're in the room with you, or when they're in your arms with you, it's a different experience of that presence and

1423
01:34:34.000 --> 01:34:47.000
that connection and I think sometimes that's, that's one of the ways I like to think about when I'm welcoming Jesus I'm like you're already on the inside of me, but I want to feel your embrace I want to feel your breath on my face I want to hear your

1424
01:34:47.000 --> 01:35:00.000
your voice, not just out there but it's up close and personal you know but I also just love how you were talking about embracing our humanity and in the fragility of it in the tenderness in the vulnerability

1425
01:35:00.000 --> 01:35:03.200
of our humanity, it's not to be despised,

1426
01:35:03.200 --> 01:35:05.040
but that it is to be celebrated

1427
01:35:05.040 --> 01:35:10.000
and that we're not to hate or be down on our flesh.

1428
01:35:10.000 --> 01:35:13.160
And we're actually meant to celebrate it as a gift

1429
01:35:13.160 --> 01:35:18.160
because every fiber of our being can host his presence

1430
01:35:18.500 --> 01:35:22.160
and can know, and yet we want art to be real,

1431
01:35:22.160 --> 01:35:25.920
to give language to people in the struggle of humanity,

1432
01:35:25.960 --> 01:35:30.800
that it's not all just unicorns and rainbows and lollipops.

1433
01:35:30.800 --> 01:35:33.480
There are real struggles, there are real tensions,

1434
01:35:33.480 --> 01:35:36.820
there are real battles, and yet God is there

1435
01:35:36.820 --> 01:35:40.320
in the depth of the valley of the shadow of death

1436
01:35:40.320 --> 01:35:43.320
or the struggle and the temptations we face

1437
01:35:43.320 --> 01:35:46.920
or whatever it is, but he's there.

1438
01:35:46.920 --> 01:35:49.720
And so Zylan, I would love to hear what you have to say

1439
01:35:50.800 --> 01:35:54.000
with that, but just language to that.

1440
01:35:55.000 --> 01:36:00.000
Yeah, I think what she said is so profound.

1441
01:36:01.000 --> 01:36:06.000
And like you said, celebrating our humanity, right?

1442
01:36:09.800 --> 01:36:12.240
When the beauty of Christianity is,

1443
01:36:12.240 --> 01:36:14.400
I mean, the real mystery of Christianity

1444
01:36:14.400 --> 01:36:19.400
is the word became flesh, you know?

1445
01:36:20.400 --> 01:36:25.400
That's the good news, that's the whole deal, you know?

1446
01:36:28.960 --> 01:36:32.920
It is the incarnation of the divine.

1447
01:36:32.920 --> 01:36:34.720
It is Jesus, you know?

1448
01:36:34.720 --> 01:36:36.880
It is our humanity.

1449
01:36:36.880 --> 01:36:39.560
It should be celebrated, you know?

1450
01:36:39.560 --> 01:36:42.200
Because we come in from this Western idea

1451
01:36:42.200 --> 01:36:47.200
of like flying from here to somewhere out there, you know?

1452
01:36:48.160 --> 01:36:52.680
And that thing made us to be very responsible

1453
01:36:52.680 --> 01:36:57.360
and we actually despise our humanity, right?

1454
01:36:57.360 --> 01:36:59.040
Just being real, you know?

1455
01:36:59.040 --> 01:37:02.800
And I'm observing that a new generation of people

1456
01:37:02.800 --> 01:37:06.000
are coming up and they just wanna be real, you know?

1457
01:37:06.000 --> 01:37:08.160
It's so beautiful, it's so beautiful.

1458
01:37:08.160 --> 01:37:12.800
And even I was actually preparing a sermon, you know?

1459
01:37:12.800 --> 01:37:15.960
This season, God is still teaching me the same thing,

1460
01:37:15.960 --> 01:37:18.560
what Fi and Dana said, you know?

1461
01:37:18.560 --> 01:37:21.720
It's Psalms 139, it says,

1462
01:37:21.720 --> 01:37:25.000
where can I flee from your presence, you know?

1463
01:37:25.000 --> 01:37:29.440
I mean, if I ascend to the heaven, you are there.

1464
01:37:29.440 --> 01:37:32.200
If I ascend to the shield, you are there.

1465
01:37:32.200 --> 01:37:33.040
You are there.

1466
01:37:35.440 --> 01:37:38.320
And my favorite theologian, Richard Rhodes said

1467
01:37:38.320 --> 01:37:41.840
that you cannot manufacture the presence of God.

1468
01:37:41.880 --> 01:37:43.800
The only thing that you're lacking

1469
01:37:43.800 --> 01:37:46.880
is the awareness of it, you know?

1470
01:37:46.880 --> 01:37:50.000
And that changed my whole idea of leading worship.

1471
01:37:50.000 --> 01:37:53.640
You know, I was that guy who wants to sing like a few,

1472
01:37:53.640 --> 01:37:56.800
like upbeat song and then some minor songs

1473
01:37:56.800 --> 01:38:00.200
and make people emotional and just bring the heavens down

1474
01:38:00.200 --> 01:38:02.040
and, you know, kind of thing.

1475
01:38:02.040 --> 01:38:05.560
And I feel that, you know, during that minor songs,

1476
01:38:05.560 --> 01:38:08.160
that slow meditative kind of song,

1477
01:38:08.160 --> 01:38:11.520
God will come down and, you know, minister to people.

1478
01:38:12.200 --> 01:38:15.480
The whole time I was actually fooling myself,

1479
01:38:15.480 --> 01:38:17.760
now I know that I should not,

1480
01:38:17.760 --> 01:38:20.200
I don't need to like close my eyes, you know?

1481
01:38:20.200 --> 01:38:23.600
Because where can I flee from his presence?

1482
01:38:23.600 --> 01:38:27.440
You know, like I'm already in the presence of God

1483
01:38:27.440 --> 01:38:32.040
and that's the crazy reality that God is, you know,

1484
01:38:32.040 --> 01:38:34.080
we are in him, he is in us.

1485
01:38:34.080 --> 01:38:36.360
And whatever we do is spiritual, you know?

1486
01:38:36.360 --> 01:38:39.040
Whatever we do is meaningful.

1487
01:38:39.040 --> 01:38:44.040
And whatever we create is God creating with us, you know?

1488
01:38:44.280 --> 01:38:48.120
I mean, that's like, that's like crazy.

1489
01:38:48.120 --> 01:38:53.120
I mean, and, you know, when God is actually being real,

1490
01:38:53.120 --> 01:38:58.120
when in my, like Fee said, in my weakest, darkest time,

1491
01:38:58.760 --> 01:39:03.760
you know, when I'm really real and in my brokenness,

1492
01:39:03.840 --> 01:39:08.840
in my crazy, stupid humanity, he's with me, you know?

1493
01:39:09.400 --> 01:39:14.080
And whatever I do is, it's me and him doing.

1494
01:39:14.080 --> 01:39:15.480
I mean, that's beautiful.

1495
01:39:16.640 --> 01:39:19.480
And wow, I was actually literally engrossed

1496
01:39:19.480 --> 01:39:22.800
because both of you guys just shared that thing, you know,

1497
01:39:22.800 --> 01:39:25.640
because that's the thing I'm actually tripping,

1498
01:39:25.640 --> 01:39:30.640
you know, these days, it's like, you know, just, you know,

1499
01:39:32.840 --> 01:39:36.800
it's literally changing my idea of being a Christian,

1500
01:39:36.800 --> 01:39:37.640
you know?

1501
01:39:37.960 --> 01:39:39.320
That's beautiful.

1502
01:39:39.320 --> 01:39:40.520
Oh, it's so good.

1503
01:39:40.520 --> 01:39:44.040
It's just, just what you said, the word became flesh.

1504
01:39:44.040 --> 01:39:46.880
It's Emmanuel, it's God with us.

1505
01:39:46.880 --> 01:39:50.800
And it just flips the switch with every other religion,

1506
01:39:50.800 --> 01:39:52.880
it's man trying to get to God.

1507
01:39:52.880 --> 01:39:57.120
But Christianity is the only one where God came down to us

1508
01:39:57.120 --> 01:40:00.480
and he is continuing to come and find us.

1509
01:40:00.000 --> 01:40:05.600
us. Even if we're Christians and we've been Christians for 40 years, he is constantly pursuing

1510
01:40:06.160 --> 01:40:12.000
everything that happens in life is initiated by God. And we are just in this response. We're in

1511
01:40:12.000 --> 01:40:18.400
this constant response to the revelation of art, his voice, his presence. He's just constantly

1512
01:40:18.400 --> 01:40:24.320
revealing to us. Now we can accelerate that by our own decisions and our own free will

1513
01:40:24.320 --> 01:40:30.400
and our own desire to hunger and to thirst after him. Just like if you're married in relationship,

1514
01:40:30.400 --> 01:40:34.720
it's like, yep, you know, we're married, we're in relationship, but you can intentionally

1515
01:40:35.280 --> 01:40:39.680
pursue your spouse and get to know them and unveil the mystery of who they are.

1516
01:40:39.680 --> 01:40:46.560
The same thing with God. I mean, we're in this constant divine dance of this. Isn't just about

1517
01:40:46.560 --> 01:40:51.520
a whole bunch of things to do or accomplish or things to tick off the box. Like I used to think

1518
01:40:51.520 --> 01:40:58.320
like that. It was so off religious and like a task master. Like I literally looked at Jesus

1519
01:40:58.320 --> 01:41:03.680
as like the CEO of heaven. And I would like come and be like, Hey, what do I do? And my whole

1520
01:41:03.680 --> 01:41:09.040
sense of wellbeing was in it. Like, I just want to serve you. And I just want to do all these things.

1521
01:41:09.040 --> 01:41:15.680
And it came from a beautiful, like actual desire to love him. But when you actually get broken

1522
01:41:15.680 --> 01:41:21.440
off of that and you just go, this is all about love. It's all about relationship. It is actually

1523
01:41:21.440 --> 01:41:29.120
all about this divine exchange of knowing one another intimate, knowing everything has God in

1524
01:41:29.120 --> 01:41:35.120
it. Every everything becomes a moment of encounter everything. This, as we say, the lowest of low,

1525
01:41:35.120 --> 01:41:40.080
when you hit rock bottom and like 50 degrees below rock bottom, you're just like, Oh my God.

1526
01:41:40.720 --> 01:41:44.320
Or if you're in the highest of heights or whatever it is you're experiencing,

1527
01:41:44.320 --> 01:41:48.960
it is a moment to taste the divine. It is a moment to experience God.

1528
01:41:49.600 --> 01:41:53.920
So I'm loving what you guys are sharing. I just love these chats with you guys,

1529
01:41:53.920 --> 01:41:57.680
Carol. I saw that your hand was up. Did you mean to put your hand up? Would you like to say

1530
01:41:57.680 --> 01:42:01.600
something? We'd love to share it. If you have a question or something you want to add to the

1531
01:42:01.600 --> 01:42:12.640
conversation. You know, I am so in awe, to be honest, this is a divine appointment. There is

1532
01:42:12.640 --> 01:42:19.200
no doubt that everything you guys are saying, God has already written, but then there was this

1533
01:42:20.320 --> 01:42:25.920
moment where he said, pick up the pen. You're adding another stanza to this poetry about

1534
01:42:25.920 --> 01:42:35.200
intention, right? Everything you guys said went in very quickly for the other stanza. It's like,

1535
01:42:35.200 --> 01:42:40.720
and I didn't know how I've never been here. So I didn't know if it would be appropriate

1536
01:42:40.720 --> 01:42:45.120
because what you're saying, what that guy said, you know, that chariots of fire,

1537
01:42:45.840 --> 01:42:53.520
where you know, never before in life, at 60 years old, I realized he can talk back and I'm like,

1538
01:42:54.240 --> 01:43:04.480
what? Why did I wait so long? And understand, you know, that in my older years, I'm not done.

1539
01:43:04.560 --> 01:43:13.840
I'm not done galloping with children anymore, but I can now be creative in what he's feeding me.

1540
01:43:14.640 --> 01:43:24.160
And honestly, the downloads, it's this like connection with the maker and keeper of

1541
01:43:24.160 --> 01:43:30.480
everything. There is no way I ever want to go back to the way it was. Oh, come on.

1542
01:43:30.560 --> 01:43:37.520
Right. But I want to know if it's okay. I was charging my phone a minute ago, but can I switch

1543
01:43:37.520 --> 01:43:43.840
here? Ken, it's not too long, but I really want, I don't know if this is appropriate. Can I share

1544
01:43:43.840 --> 01:43:48.480
these four stanzas? Would love that. Please do. Would love to hear it.

1545
01:43:48.480 --> 01:43:53.360
Okay. So intention. So when, as soon as I heard the word intention, I'm like,

1546
01:43:54.320 --> 01:44:00.800
wow, clue in, right? Intention is a word that is often tossed lightly around. It is like the word

1547
01:44:00.800 --> 01:44:07.280
belief, but it has no definite sound. Yet living life on purpose and directing your deliberate

1548
01:44:07.280 --> 01:44:14.240
mind can lead you to serve others being so loving and so kind. The intention to be curious,

1549
01:44:14.240 --> 01:44:20.400
to open your exploring heart, learning all that you possibly can is just the expanding start.

1550
01:44:21.040 --> 01:44:28.480
Intention now indirect is a helpful habit built over time. No longer a thoughtless commitment,

1551
01:44:28.480 --> 01:44:32.720
but a Christ Jesus state of mind. Now here's where you guys come in.

1552
01:44:33.760 --> 01:44:38.480
Intention to awaken God's loving light, to experience the pleasure of God,

1553
01:44:39.200 --> 01:44:46.960
not for an act for self importance, but to serve for God, to applaud, to yield my servants honed

1554
01:44:46.960 --> 01:44:55.280
in heart, creating from that purposeful place to nourish the hurting human heart, to feel his breath

1555
01:44:55.280 --> 01:44:59.040
on my face and to feel his joy in our embrace.

1556
01:45:00.000 --> 01:45:05.000
Tension has influential power in what you successfully achieve,

1557
01:45:05.000 --> 01:45:08.920
to commit to carrying out plans that you cooperatively

1558
01:45:08.920 --> 01:45:10.240
perceive.

1559
01:45:10.240 --> 01:45:15.120
Letting life not haphazardly happen to seize your busy day.

1560
01:45:15.120 --> 01:45:17.640
Now more than a lonely existence,

1561
01:45:17.640 --> 01:45:21.240
life becomes God's beautiful ballet.

1562
01:45:21.240 --> 01:45:23.680
Wow.

1563
01:45:23.680 --> 01:45:27.280
Carol, that is so beautiful.

1564
01:45:27.280 --> 01:45:31.480
I tell you, knowing God like this

1565
01:45:31.480 --> 01:45:39.080
is like no other thing.

1566
01:45:39.080 --> 01:45:43.160
Like, I don't know how to explain it.

1567
01:45:43.160 --> 01:45:45.480
I wasn't even going to come on here today

1568
01:45:45.480 --> 01:45:48.680
and look at what God did.

1569
01:45:48.680 --> 01:45:53.160
It just blows my mind.

1570
01:45:53.160 --> 01:45:58.360
To be present, oh, and that song that you first said to look up.

1571
01:45:58.360 --> 01:46:02.720
So in the beginning, I went ahead and looked it up.

1572
01:46:02.720 --> 01:46:05.080
He was immediately all over me.

1573
01:46:05.080 --> 01:46:07.000
I was like, wow.

1574
01:46:07.000 --> 01:46:08.160
Right?

1575
01:46:08.160 --> 01:46:10.480
And I didn't even hear but one word.

1576
01:46:10.480 --> 01:46:15.080
And he was like, yeah, yeah, yeah, this is me.

1577
01:46:15.080 --> 01:46:18.440
I'm so glad for this connection.

1578
01:46:18.440 --> 01:46:19.520
Wow.

1579
01:46:19.520 --> 01:46:22.880
Carol, thank you so much for sharing that with us.

1580
01:46:22.880 --> 01:46:24.440
That was so beautiful.

1581
01:46:24.440 --> 01:46:27.680
And I wanted to burst into tears.

1582
01:46:27.680 --> 01:46:29.760
I was, at the same time, just holding it all in.

1583
01:46:29.760 --> 01:46:34.600
I was just like, the reality of what you just said of,

1584
01:46:34.600 --> 01:46:37.360
I didn't know he could talk back.

1585
01:46:37.360 --> 01:46:41.480
And experiencing that divine exchange.

1586
01:46:41.480 --> 01:46:45.000
There is literally nothing like feeling the presence of God

1587
01:46:45.000 --> 01:46:47.000
and hearing his voice.

1588
01:46:47.000 --> 01:46:47.960
You're just home.

1589
01:46:47.960 --> 01:46:49.560
There's this divine connection.

1590
01:46:49.560 --> 01:46:51.000
It's like, that's the very thing.

1591
01:46:51.360 --> 01:46:52.920
How do we put into words?

1592
01:46:52.920 --> 01:46:55.640
How do we express this to humanity?

1593
01:46:55.640 --> 01:46:58.920
Of all the things you could do, experience,

1594
01:46:58.920 --> 01:47:02.480
there is nothing like this connection and communion.

1595
01:47:02.480 --> 01:47:06.840
And so this is the greatest thing that we can hear.

1596
01:47:06.840 --> 01:47:08.120
This is what lights me up.

1597
01:47:08.120 --> 01:47:10.680
This is why I love doing these things,

1598
01:47:10.680 --> 01:47:14.280
is seeing beautiful people like yourself be like,

1599
01:47:14.280 --> 01:47:17.040
this has caused me to come alive and feel love.

1600
01:47:17.040 --> 01:47:20.840
Because we're just wanting to host space for God to come in

1601
01:47:21.680 --> 01:47:22.720
and love on his people.

1602
01:47:22.720 --> 01:47:26.240
For God to come in and just release expansion

1603
01:47:26.240 --> 01:47:28.080
and upgrade and revelation.

1604
01:47:28.080 --> 01:47:32.240
And to feel alive and to feel like, oh my gosh!

1605
01:47:33.280 --> 01:47:35.360
My life has a divine purpose.

1606
01:47:35.360 --> 01:47:38.520
And that's the thing too, in every season of the soul,

1607
01:47:38.520 --> 01:47:40.320
it doesn't matter how old we are,

1608
01:47:40.320 --> 01:47:42.880
what we've been through, where we've gone,

1609
01:47:42.880 --> 01:47:45.200
what has happened in our life.

1610
01:47:45.200 --> 01:47:47.040
Every day is a new day of mercy.

1611
01:47:47.080 --> 01:47:48.760
Every day is limitless potential,

1612
01:47:48.760 --> 01:47:52.600
limitless ability in what we can do.

1613
01:47:52.600 --> 01:47:54.720
The God, Ephesians 3.20,

1614
01:47:54.720 --> 01:47:57.960
to him who is able to do exceedingly abundantly

1615
01:47:57.960 --> 01:47:59.720
more than we could think, hope, dream, or imagine.

1616
01:47:59.720 --> 01:48:01.120
That is one of my life verses,

1617
01:48:01.120 --> 01:48:04.240
because I can feel limited

1618
01:48:04.240 --> 01:48:05.920
because of a thousand different things.

1619
01:48:05.920 --> 01:48:07.480
And I'm like, well, stuff that.

1620
01:48:07.480 --> 01:48:08.720
That's not the heart of heaven.

1621
01:48:08.720 --> 01:48:09.800
And that's not the kingdom.

1622
01:48:09.800 --> 01:48:11.080
And that's not heaven.

1623
01:48:11.080 --> 01:48:14.840
Like literally anything is possible in any age,

1624
01:48:14.840 --> 01:48:16.040
in any stage of life.

1625
01:48:16.040 --> 01:48:19.880
It doesn't matter your financial, relational condition

1626
01:48:19.880 --> 01:48:22.400
of who you're connected with or not,

1627
01:48:22.400 --> 01:48:25.400
what gift you have with God, anything is possible.

1628
01:48:25.400 --> 01:48:28.720
And when we just get into that sweet spot of intimacy

1629
01:48:28.720 --> 01:48:31.320
and divine connection,

1630
01:48:31.320 --> 01:48:33.200
woo, that's where the magic happens, right?

1631
01:48:33.200 --> 01:48:35.280
Like literally his anointing comes in,

1632
01:48:35.280 --> 01:48:36.880
his presence comes in,

1633
01:48:36.880 --> 01:48:39.800
and it's the God factor of my loaves and fishes.

1634
01:48:39.800 --> 01:48:42.120
And then boom, he's feeding the 5,000.

1635
01:48:42.120 --> 01:48:45.160
Boom, he's bringing like fruit

1636
01:48:45.160 --> 01:48:48.000
that would nurture and awaken people,

1637
01:48:48.000 --> 01:48:50.120
just as Zilan and Fi were saying

1638
01:48:50.120 --> 01:48:53.280
that it's this honest awakening, this liberation,

1639
01:48:53.280 --> 01:48:56.520
this fulfillment, this enrichment of like,

1640
01:48:56.520 --> 01:48:58.240
I am experiencing heaven on earth.

1641
01:48:58.240 --> 01:48:59.960
I'm, you know, the lion, the witch,

1642
01:48:59.960 --> 01:49:02.200
and the wardrobe of C.S. Lewis.

1643
01:49:02.200 --> 01:49:06.400
I'm opening the wardrobe and I'm coming into Narnia.

1644
01:49:06.400 --> 01:49:10.480
Like, oh my gosh, there's a whole nother world here

1645
01:49:10.480 --> 01:49:11.520
that we're experiencing.

1646
01:49:12.400 --> 01:49:14.000
So good to hear your heart, Carol.

1647
01:49:14.000 --> 01:49:16.400
Thank you for sharing that with us.

1648
01:49:16.400 --> 01:49:19.280
Is there anyone else that wants to just say hi

1649
01:49:19.280 --> 01:49:21.640
or share something that impacted you

1650
01:49:21.640 --> 01:49:25.040
or something that you want to add to the conversation

1651
01:49:25.040 --> 01:49:28.640
or a revelation that you have or a question you have?

1652
01:49:28.640 --> 01:49:31.720
We would love to just take, you know, the next 10 minutes

1653
01:49:31.720 --> 01:49:35.040
and just hear anything that someone has to share.

1654
01:49:38.280 --> 01:49:39.200
There's no pressure to,

1655
01:49:39.200 --> 01:49:42.720
but we always just love the time to engage with one another

1656
01:49:42.720 --> 01:49:46.320
and hear questions, hear input.

1657
01:49:53.560 --> 01:49:57.120
Zoe, please share with us.

1658
01:49:58.400 --> 01:50:00.320
Hi, it's been wonderful.

1659
01:50:00.000 --> 01:50:08.320
Also, the one thing I wanted to add was, I think it's all about rest, that when you enter into a

1660
01:50:08.320 --> 01:50:15.040
creative space, you enter into an intimate rest, and rest can be very active, like the runner,

1661
01:50:15.040 --> 01:50:21.200
and it doesn't mean you're sitting down and doing nothing, that would be anaesthetic, wouldn't it?

1662
01:50:21.200 --> 01:50:27.760
Yeah. But it's all about where teaching the world, really, how to enter into the rest,

1663
01:50:28.080 --> 01:50:35.360
the finished work of God, the seventh day, everything being good and restful. So that

1664
01:50:35.360 --> 01:50:40.080
just was something that came to mind, that it's just that energy of rest,

1665
01:50:41.120 --> 01:50:44.560
which is that intimacy, really, isn't it? So that's all I wanted to say.

1666
01:50:45.920 --> 01:50:51.680
That's so good. It's so true. It reminds me of John 15, of just abide in the vine,

1667
01:50:51.680 --> 01:50:55.120
that you can do nothing apart from me, but if you abide in the vine,

1668
01:50:55.920 --> 01:51:01.200
you will bear much fruit. And so it is that thing of going, and I think rest looks different for all

1669
01:51:01.200 --> 01:51:07.120
of us, based on our personality, and based on our gifts and our wiring. Some of us have a really

1670
01:51:07.120 --> 01:51:11.760
hard time just sitting still, even though sitting still can be really like, be still and know that

1671
01:51:11.760 --> 01:51:19.200
I'm God, but stillness, and rest, and connection, and the fruit of that rest, it just looks different

1672
01:51:19.280 --> 01:51:25.760
for each of us. So I love what you just said about the runner, like his rest, his running.

1673
01:51:28.400 --> 01:51:33.440
And there's things that, to some people, rest might look like going for a walk in the woods,

1674
01:51:33.440 --> 01:51:38.080
or by the ocean, or it might be going for a hike, or it might be restful for someone to

1675
01:51:38.720 --> 01:51:42.880
spend hours in the kitchen cooking, because that's rejuvenating for them, or it might be

1676
01:51:43.840 --> 01:51:48.880
going skiing, or it might be walking around a museum, or it might be, I mean, gosh,

1677
01:51:51.920 --> 01:51:58.080
it might be anything, it's something that actually, whatever it is, like for one of my mentors, he

1678
01:51:58.080 --> 01:52:04.240
says, when he gets on his motorcycle, that's his place of rest, you know, he's getting away from

1679
01:52:04.240 --> 01:52:10.880
people, he's actively on a motorcycle, there's adventure, there's invigoration for him,

1680
01:52:10.880 --> 01:52:17.760
but he's able to tap into his soul, he's able to tap into that space with God. And I think that's

1681
01:52:17.760 --> 01:52:24.320
it, it's finding the unique way that you find that pleasure, and joy, and connection with God.

1682
01:52:24.320 --> 01:52:29.840
I think it's where your spirit, soul, and body come into oneness.

1683
01:52:29.840 --> 01:52:30.160
Yes.

1684
01:52:31.120 --> 01:52:39.040
So that is the rest, where every part of you is united together in that. So, you know,

1685
01:52:39.040 --> 01:52:45.680
your whole physicality, maybe as a painter, you know, maybe that you're physically engaging with

1686
01:52:45.680 --> 01:52:50.880
the colors, and the paint, and whatever, but your soul is happy, and your spirit is happy, and so

1687
01:52:50.880 --> 01:52:54.000
it's like that one, becoming one, really.

1688
01:52:54.960 --> 01:53:00.000
I love that. Zoe, that's so good. I'm so glad that you brought that up. That is just so good.

1689
01:53:00.960 --> 01:53:04.880
I think it's something that we're constantly learning, too, and even in Hebrews, it says,

1690
01:53:04.880 --> 01:53:11.600
strive to enter into the rest of God. And I, like, know for me, rest has been a battle for a lot of

1691
01:53:11.600 --> 01:53:17.360
my life, because I can, it's been this thing that God's constantly leading me out of performance,

1692
01:53:17.360 --> 01:53:23.280
and striving, and leading me into divine rest, thinking that out of performance and striving,

1693
01:53:23.280 --> 01:53:29.120
I'm going to bear more fruit. But it's actually when I step back, and I get into that divine

1694
01:53:29.840 --> 01:53:35.840
rhythm, like, you know, that cadence of heaven's heartbeat with you, and it's different for each of

1695
01:53:35.840 --> 01:53:41.840
us, like, our capacity is all different, our normal is all different, what we can handle is all

1696
01:53:41.840 --> 01:53:49.600
different. And so when we find that, that routine, that rhythm, that divine kind of rhythm of our life

1697
01:53:49.600 --> 01:53:54.160
and God, it's, oh, and you find that sweet spot, you know, the sweet spot is so different for us

1698
01:53:54.240 --> 01:53:59.200
all. But when you find it, whoo, that's where, like, the goodness starts happening, you know?

1699
01:54:00.240 --> 01:54:02.240
Yeah, and it's different every day.

1700
01:54:02.240 --> 01:54:08.960
It is. Yeah. Totally. Yeah. And that's where we live, and we move, and we have our being in him.

1701
01:54:08.960 --> 01:54:15.120
You know, that's where it is just like, there's, there's some things of discipline and order and

1702
01:54:15.120 --> 01:54:20.240
structure to our life. And then there's other things where Holy Spirit might nudge you or

1703
01:54:20.240 --> 01:54:26.080
whisper, hey, let's go do this today. Or, hey, our time of devotion might look different. Or,

1704
01:54:26.960 --> 01:54:30.720
or there's just something in your heart that you're like, I just want to go do this today.

1705
01:54:30.720 --> 01:54:36.240
And like, oh, but no, I should be going and doing this. But it's like, but I could go and experience

1706
01:54:36.240 --> 01:54:41.200
and encounter God and be full of rest and, you know, experiences.

1707
01:54:42.640 --> 01:54:47.440
Yeah, the whole thing is your body is full of different organs that all play a part.

1708
01:54:47.440 --> 01:54:53.120
Yeah, and our soul has different parts to it. And you have to nurture all of them, for them to

1709
01:54:53.120 --> 01:54:59.200
come into unity. And so I think that sometimes it's just a part of you has been neglected and needs

1710
01:54:59.200 --> 01:55:00.000
that kind of

1711
01:55:00.000 --> 01:55:04.040
like you say, that day off or that rest in a different way,

1712
01:55:04.040 --> 01:55:06.600
or you need a day where you're creating

1713
01:55:06.600 --> 01:55:09.480
so that you can be the responsible parent

1714
01:55:09.480 --> 01:55:13.560
or whatever in other parts of the week.

1715
01:55:13.560 --> 01:55:18.560
So yeah, it's just honoring, actually, every part of you.

1716
01:55:18.680 --> 01:55:19.560
Yeah.

1717
01:55:19.560 --> 01:55:21.000
Oh, that's so good.

1718
01:55:21.000 --> 01:55:23.240
Thank you for sharing, Zoe, that's so nice.

1719
01:55:23.240 --> 01:55:24.280
You're very welcome.

1720
01:55:24.280 --> 01:55:26.480
I've got to dish out dinner now, so I've got to go.

1721
01:55:26.480 --> 01:55:27.320
Okay.

1722
01:55:27.320 --> 01:55:28.160
Lots of love.

1723
01:55:28.680 --> 01:55:29.520
Lots of love.

1724
01:55:29.520 --> 01:55:30.560
See you next time.

1725
01:55:32.400 --> 01:55:36.280
Is there anyone else that would like to share a thought,

1726
01:55:36.280 --> 01:55:38.240
an input, a question?

1727
01:55:40.960 --> 01:55:43.080
Probably go for a few more minutes.

1728
01:55:44.680 --> 01:55:45.760
Beautiful people.

1729
01:55:47.280 --> 01:55:50.520
I want to thank you again for this time.

1730
01:55:50.520 --> 01:55:52.880
I'm just soaking in it.

1731
01:55:52.880 --> 01:55:55.640
I'm coming alive just listening to you.

1732
01:55:56.640 --> 01:56:00.200
Yeah, I'll be taking this and just playing it over

1733
01:56:00.200 --> 01:56:03.280
because it's just feeding my soul, it really is.

1734
01:56:03.280 --> 01:56:05.080
Oh, I love it.

1735
01:56:05.080 --> 01:56:06.600
Oh, that's so encouraging.

1736
01:56:06.600 --> 01:56:08.880
How are you doing with your writing?

1737
01:56:08.880 --> 01:56:12.120
Well, okay, interesting.

1738
01:56:12.120 --> 01:56:13.840
I write the book quite easily

1739
01:56:13.840 --> 01:56:17.280
because it all came from the well of life inside of me

1740
01:56:17.280 --> 01:56:20.560
that God had been wanting to express for a long time.

1741
01:56:20.560 --> 01:56:22.920
And so it just came out on the page

1742
01:56:22.920 --> 01:56:25.400
and it just wasn't hard at all to write.

1743
01:56:26.200 --> 01:56:30.000
But the publishing journey has been quite different

1744
01:56:30.000 --> 01:56:33.400
because I've found it difficult finding the right people

1745
01:56:33.400 --> 01:56:36.440
to help me express the story,

1746
01:56:36.440 --> 01:56:39.680
what God's wanting to produce

1747
01:56:39.680 --> 01:56:42.200
in a way that's going to serve the right people

1748
01:56:42.200 --> 01:56:43.920
in a way that's going to invite them

1749
01:56:43.920 --> 01:56:47.760
into what God wants to minister to them

1750
01:56:47.760 --> 01:56:49.920
rather than just me sharing my story

1751
01:56:49.920 --> 01:56:53.200
because a lot of it comes from my own walk with Lord

1752
01:56:53.320 --> 01:56:57.200
as well as revelations he's given me about the kingdom.

1753
01:56:57.200 --> 01:57:00.800
But making it relatable in a way that invites people in

1754
01:57:00.800 --> 01:57:02.280
is a real skill.

1755
01:57:02.280 --> 01:57:06.120
And so I've just found an editor here in New Zealand

1756
01:57:06.120 --> 01:57:09.960
who has worked with people similar to myself.

1757
01:57:09.960 --> 01:57:11.640
We've all got a creative story

1758
01:57:11.640 --> 01:57:14.120
and we've all got something that God wants to produce

1759
01:57:14.120 --> 01:57:18.000
through us into this world on some capacity.

1760
01:57:18.000 --> 01:57:21.680
And I'm really just learning all that through this journey.

1761
01:57:21.680 --> 01:57:25.360
And so this one person who I've just found

1762
01:57:25.360 --> 01:57:28.640
is going to help me not rewrite the whole thing

1763
01:57:28.640 --> 01:57:32.640
but just tweak it a bit to make it more helpful.

1764
01:57:32.640 --> 01:57:36.480
Like you've often said, serve more people.

1765
01:57:36.480 --> 01:57:38.880
Make it relatable so they can experience

1766
01:57:38.880 --> 01:57:41.720
what God wants them to experience

1767
01:57:41.720 --> 01:57:44.440
through what you're offering them

1768
01:57:44.440 --> 01:57:47.000
so that it's not about you, it's about the kingdom

1769
01:57:47.000 --> 01:57:49.760
and it's about what you're inviting them into,

1770
01:57:49.760 --> 01:57:54.120
what God wants to invite them into to encounter him.

1771
01:57:54.120 --> 01:57:56.080
And so this is what I've been hearing

1772
01:57:56.080 --> 01:57:58.400
right through this whole thing today

1773
01:57:58.400 --> 01:58:02.240
is the invitation of the heart of God to come and know me.

1774
01:58:03.240 --> 01:58:06.360
You know, and be more connected in your own heart

1775
01:58:06.360 --> 01:58:09.280
with my story so that it can become your story

1776
01:58:09.280 --> 01:58:11.520
so that we can become more one

1777
01:58:11.520 --> 01:58:14.720
and we can enjoy and celebrate one another.

1778
01:58:14.720 --> 01:58:17.800
And so just listening to this,

1779
01:58:17.840 --> 01:58:21.200
it's just a balm to my soul.

1780
01:58:21.200 --> 01:58:24.280
And like last time was as well,

1781
01:58:24.280 --> 01:58:27.520
it's helping me to connect to that creative part of me

1782
01:58:27.520 --> 01:58:30.720
that I've actually never really celebrated.

1783
01:58:31.720 --> 01:58:35.440
And it's been shut down in the church, I can tell you that.

1784
01:58:35.440 --> 01:58:39.120
So I really know now that there's wounding there.

1785
01:58:40.560 --> 01:58:41.400
Yeah.

1786
01:58:42.840 --> 01:58:45.960
So I'm in that journey of actually going through

1787
01:58:45.960 --> 01:58:48.160
a bit of healing at the moment.

1788
01:58:48.160 --> 01:58:52.440
So, and being able to be more creative

1789
01:58:52.440 --> 01:58:55.720
and everything you've shared about religion,

1790
01:58:55.720 --> 01:58:59.080
shutting down the life of God,

1791
01:58:59.080 --> 01:59:01.040
because I'm a very prophetic person

1792
01:59:01.960 --> 01:59:05.560
and the church has got a very regimented way

1793
01:59:05.560 --> 01:59:08.080
of how you are prophetic.

1794
01:59:08.080 --> 01:59:10.960
And yet I know and believe with all my heart

1795
01:59:10.960 --> 01:59:13.360
that every single one of us is,

1796
01:59:13.400 --> 01:59:15.360
and yet it's been shut down.

1797
01:59:15.360 --> 01:59:17.400
The creative expression of what it means

1798
01:59:17.400 --> 01:59:20.840
to be a prophetic person has been shut down.

1799
01:59:20.840 --> 01:59:23.560
And so anything, even like your conversation

1800
01:59:23.560 --> 01:59:27.040
on the expressions of who each one of you is,

1801
01:59:27.040 --> 01:59:30.440
is bringing us alive and into that experience

1802
01:59:30.440 --> 01:59:33.360
and that reality of being that full prophetic person

1803
01:59:33.360 --> 01:59:35.640
that God sees that we are.

1804
01:59:35.640 --> 01:59:37.960
So I'm going through that journey myself.

1805
01:59:39.920 --> 01:59:41.640
Thank you for sharing that.

1806
01:59:41.640 --> 01:59:46.640
And I just wanna just, yeah, on behalf of the church

1807
01:59:48.080 --> 01:59:52.640
and leaders and individuals that have misunderstood you

1808
01:59:52.640 --> 01:59:57.640
and that have wrongly judged or where they've shut you down,

1809
01:59:57.960 --> 01:59:59.840
I just wanna say on behalf.

1810
02:00:00.000 --> 02:00:05.360
of the church, would you forgive us? Would you forgive us of not seeing the beauty of who you

1811
02:00:05.360 --> 02:00:12.960
are and the prophetic gift on your life and the creative anointing that you carry? I just

1812
02:00:13.520 --> 02:00:19.920
I want to ask on behalf of ones that have hurt you, would you forgive and would you

1813
02:00:21.120 --> 02:00:27.120
would you release us from our own blindness and from our own inability to see the gift of God on

1814
02:00:27.120 --> 02:00:34.160
you and where there's been religion that has motivated to shut that down. I just want to say

1815
02:00:34.160 --> 02:00:40.400
we're so sorry. I'm so sorry on behalf of leaders that haven't seen the treasure that you are. I'm

1816
02:00:40.400 --> 02:00:48.000
so sorry that you weren't validated. I'm so sorry that there wasn't a rejoicing and people opening

1817
02:00:48.560 --> 02:00:55.680
space for you to learn and to grow and to be celebrated and I just want to say like

1818
02:00:57.280 --> 02:01:06.960
our heart here is to pray and to ask that God would come and heal every aspect of your heart

1819
02:01:06.960 --> 02:01:13.760
and your story and that there would be encounter after encounter and wave after wave of his healing

1820
02:01:13.760 --> 02:01:19.680
that is tangible and that is personal and that is like for every area that you've known pain and

1821
02:01:19.680 --> 02:01:25.520
misunderstanding that you would know great celebration and favor and abundance and open

1822
02:01:25.520 --> 02:01:32.400
door and that God would redeem time and that you wouldn't be marked by wounding but you would be

1823
02:01:32.400 --> 02:01:38.400
marked by healing and celebration and the favor and the goodness of God and the days to come you

1824
02:01:38.400 --> 02:01:44.080
would see God's ability to bring full restitution you would see God's ability to bring full open

1825
02:01:44.080 --> 02:01:50.480
doors and to do more than you could think hope dream or imagine and to see that gift of God and

1826
02:01:50.480 --> 02:01:58.320
you flourish and blossom and fully come alive and so I was going to be praying that for you

1827
02:01:59.280 --> 02:02:07.200
and thank you and just so want to honor the yeah the journey that you're on and and I'm so grateful

1828
02:02:07.200 --> 02:02:14.160
that you are finding connections and cues that are unlocking you and being connected to whoever

1829
02:02:14.160 --> 02:02:19.120
it is that you're connected to that you're rewriting the script you're getting it out there

1830
02:02:19.120 --> 02:02:26.960
um so yeah I just want to bless that bless that in you yeah yes and I want to bring that to other

1831
02:02:26.960 --> 02:02:33.120
people too something I've done over the years has run soaking retreats and it's all about helping

1832
02:02:33.120 --> 02:02:39.680
our hearts be connected to God's heart so that we're laying down ourselves our physical body

1833
02:02:39.680 --> 02:02:44.960
and just receiving from God and commuting with him and I'm just seeing people's hearts unlocked

1834
02:02:45.520 --> 02:02:52.880
and then we often do have some creative expression in that as well so and yet I'm the one that needs

1835
02:02:52.880 --> 02:02:58.640
to be unlocked as much as anyone else so and that's it right I think that's the journey of

1836
02:02:58.640 --> 02:03:06.080
us as leaders is we never arrive and the more you experience God and understand healing more places

1837
02:03:06.080 --> 02:03:12.720
of wounding or triggers or misunderstanding and the beautiful thing one thing that Graham Cook says

1838
02:03:13.600 --> 02:03:17.360
is he says you don't have a right to stay wounded you have a right to be healed

1839
02:03:18.000 --> 02:03:23.680
in Jesus and I when I heard that I was like oh because sometimes we can hold on to our pain or

1840
02:03:23.680 --> 02:03:29.360
how we were mistreated or abused or had pain and I know I have a long list of that and I go

1841
02:03:29.360 --> 02:03:36.000
it's not my right to hold on to that it's my right to be healed it's my right and my privilege and my

1842
02:03:36.000 --> 02:03:43.360
honor to be liberated and and I get to be as honest and real about where I've been mistreated or

1843
02:03:43.360 --> 02:03:50.400
shut down or any of that but man in the hands of Jesus he takes every trigger he takes every

1844
02:03:50.400 --> 02:03:57.120
wounding and turns it into treasure he turns it into gold he takes ashes and turns it into beauty

1845
02:03:57.120 --> 02:04:04.000
and mourning into joy and heaviness he gives me a garment of praise and it doesn't it doesn't negate

1846
02:04:04.000 --> 02:04:08.240
any of it it doesn't mean that there's a quick turnaround like oh just get over your pain

1847
02:04:08.240 --> 02:04:14.880
it's like no sometimes we need the comforter to come in and sit with us just as we weep and there's

1848
02:04:14.880 --> 02:04:21.920
no pressure to get healed in a timeline like healing isn't linear and healing doesn't just

1849
02:04:21.920 --> 02:04:29.040
follow a timeline healing is a process and the beautiful thing I think as well um of God's heart

1850
02:04:29.040 --> 02:04:34.320
in healing is that it's relational that God could just we could go down a prayer line and be like

1851
02:04:34.320 --> 02:04:39.920
bop bop bop bop and it's just like heal heal heal heal heal and sometimes that does happen physically

1852
02:04:39.920 --> 02:04:44.240
and it sometimes does happen with a deliverance or something but there's something beautiful I

1853
02:04:44.240 --> 02:04:51.920
found in my journey of healing is that he wins my heart he romances my heart he he convinces me

1854
02:04:51.920 --> 02:04:57.760
about how deeply I'm treasured and cared for because he's walking with me in the moment by

1855
02:04:57.760 --> 02:05:00.000
moment and sometimes I wish that it could be

1856
02:05:00.000 --> 02:05:06.460
be just an overnight thing, but I'm realizing you're, you're slow in some things because

1857
02:05:06.460 --> 02:05:12.420
you're wooing my heart. You're, you're communicating the depth of your nature and character to

1858
02:05:12.420 --> 02:05:18.380
me and how intentional you are. You know, we think we're intentional and we've got motivation

1859
02:05:18.380 --> 02:05:27.100
with our art. It's us discovering his intention. It's us discovering his motivation. It's not

1860
02:05:27.100 --> 02:05:32.620
just that we're used by God. It's that we're known and we experienced God, you know, so

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many times we're like, God just use me, but we don't want to be spiritual prostitutes.

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So just use me, God. It's like, and I know it comes from a good place. Use me, use my

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life. I want to be a vessel of honor. I want to be a son and a daughter that is used for

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noble purposes. I want my life to matter. I want my life to count, but it's like, I

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don't want to just do life for God. I want to do life with God and doing life with God

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is a whole, it's a journey. It's a marathon. It's a marriage, right? It's a long covenant.

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It's a covenant that starts now. And it's not even just to the end of my life. Eternity

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is now like the divine eternal life starts now. And so he's not in a rush. So when we

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take that pressure off of ourselves to arrive and to come to this place and just to know

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it is a constant unveiling of his heart, and it's a constant unveiling of our own heart

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and story and that I don't have to quickly get it all together and become this perfect

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version of myself so I can be used by God. Oh my gosh, it changes everything. Right?

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So it's so good to hear your heart and story. And, um, I love that you've come on again

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and it's just, yeah, we just love you and we so bless you and we bless the journey that

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you're on. And I know probably so many other people listening, um, would feel and they

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can identify themselves with their own journey of their identity, their story, their places

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of pain where they felt shut down or misunderstood, or they haven't been fully given the space

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to be who they are. And I think we can all relate to that. And so we're all coming into

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a greater revelation that we are seen and known by our father in heaven. And when we

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can feel liberated in that space, then we're not looking for the validation of leaders

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or institutions. We're actually carrying our own bubble of freedom. So, ah, so good.

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I'd like to give this whole conversation to several people that are just coming to mind

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right now that would really benefit from, from hearing this. We're just unlocked their soul.

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I can think of three of them right now and I'll just go now, but I just want to finish saying

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that I met with a friend of mine who's also writing her first book at the moment, and she

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can see the need to do what I'm doing. And that is to get a good editor who loves your story,

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loves you and wants to present it in a God honouring way that will really invite people

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into his story for them. And she's actually feeling the same now after our conversation

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yesterday. And she sowed into my ministry, you know, a substantial amount of money so I can get

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more work done. So that just happened yesterday. So celebrate with me. That exciting. Yeah, I love it.

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Yeah, so good. Yeah, let the yeah, let it all flow. Let the blessing flow. Yeah.

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Okay, well, I think, yeah, we're just gonna, I just realised that we're at the two hour and 11

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minute mark. So we are going to bring this in for a landing. Yeah, it's just so good to hear

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all of your hearts and your stories. It really is so enriching.

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Is there anybody that would want to just pray, just take 30 seconds and just pray over this

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time and end our time together? If there's someone that just feels in their heart, yeah,

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I just want to take 30 seconds and just pray and just end our time. Just why don't you unmute

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yourself? And you can just pray for us. Thank you, Father. Father, God, you are so glorious,

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and you're so loving and so kind to us to invite us into an encounter and experience with you God.

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We're just so privileged to know that as we walk about intentionally, only motivated by your love,

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sharing your light that you honour that you undergird us and you shadow us with your wings.

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Lord God, thank you for Dana. Thank you for all the people that poured in today, Lord, that

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whole thing was totally God. And I just love you so much.

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and the joy that you bring to me,

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as I know that I'm meeting with the maker

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and keeper of everything,

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and that's just unbelievable to me,

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but you planned it that way.

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Thank you, God, for helping us create in this world

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to shine you, in Jesus' name, amen.

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Amen.

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Oh, that's so good.

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Thank you, Carol.

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Thank you for praying.

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Bless you.

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Bless you so much.

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Well, beautiful people, I do just wanna pray, too,

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that I just wanna declare this over you,

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that the God of abundance and the God of provision

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would go before you and be providing

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his favor with God and favor with man,

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that you would have divine appointments,

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divine strategic opportunities,

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there would be gifts and surprises,

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there would be finances and resources,

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there would be dreams and revelations,

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there would be awakening,

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there would be these moments of inspiration

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where you just have to grab the pen and start writing.

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When you go for walks, when you're in the shower,

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when you're in your car, when you're making food,

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I just pray that you would feel,

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just wave after wave, of his pleasure,

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of his joy and his delight in you doing

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what you were made to do.

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I pray that you would experience,

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that Ephesians 3, really, how high, how long,

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how deep, how wide is the love of God,

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the love of Christ,

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that you would just be walking in increasing measures

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of his joy, of his delight and his love.

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And you would experience the father

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that holds nothing back to providing

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for you to come into the fullness of your calling,

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of your purpose, of your destiny,

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of your dreams and desires.

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I pray that dreams and desires

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and different aspects of who you've been divinely

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created to be would be awakened in you.

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Those seeds of destiny, those seeds of purpose,

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those seeds, I just pray that there would be an awakening,

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there would be like, it's almost springtime here,

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I pray that there would be a blossoming and a blooming

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and a fragrance and a color

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and a sprouting up from the ground.

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There would be just a creative explosion within you

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and that you would have that John 15 reality

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of abiding in the vine and that you would bear much fruit.

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And then there would just be this ease and this flow

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and the smoothness of just this divine exchange

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of living and moving and having your being in God.

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And you would be amazed at what comes out.

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And that when you come on this next month

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and we see you in April, it's like, oh my gosh,

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there's just the testimonies of God's goodness

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and his provision would be abundant.

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So I pray that I declare that over you in Jesus name.

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Love you guys so much.

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Thank you.

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Thank you for being here.

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Thank you for being part of the Raising Royalty Tribe.

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Thank you for being part of the Kingdom Creatives.

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We're so grateful.

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I know that Zion and Fee just love you guys so much.

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If you guys wanna say anything, Zion, Fee.

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Thank you so much, guys.

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So, so beautiful to be here.

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And thank you, Dana and Fee

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and all the beautiful people here.

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I just wanna let you guys know

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that if those who missed this Zoom call,

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we'll be having a recorded live on our Facebook group

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and we have a guide Kingdom Creative and you can see it.

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And also we have a platform coming up,

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raisingroyalty.com and we'll be posting the same

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recorded live there as well.

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You can catch up and every month we're gonna

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have this Zoom call with different different topics.

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We will be having dialogues and conversations.

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And so looking forward to next month and stay connected.

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Yes, you guys are beautiful.

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And may the world see how beautiful you guys are.

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And just be fully alive, just be fully alive.

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There's a place for you at the table of the Father.

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You are fully welcome.

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Everything about you, everything that is you,

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that really everything that is you is welcome.

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So love you guys and bless you guys.

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Love you all.

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Have a wonderful weekend.

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Look forward to seeing you next time.

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Bye.