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I hope you're doing great. Welcome. Welcome to the zoom room of glory. Yeah, it's great
to be with you. I can see something. Hey, guys, welcome. Welcome to the party. Give
us a wave if you're in the comments. Be great to just see you guys in there. Let us know
where you're where you're coming in from and just making sure as usual that it's all working.
It's all happening in here that we're live. Looks like you guys have made it. Dorothy,
great to see you. Welcome, welcome, welcome to everybody. Ross, great to have you with
us all the way from Vagaville. Yeah, not too far away, which is awesome. Welcome, everybody.
Well, we will. We're we're I'm excited, really excited for today's session. I've been thinking
and dreaming about this for a long time, the specific session. This is session eight
of the mentorship, as you probably know. And in this in this session, we with the session
that we do on Saturdays or Sundays, if you're in New Zealand, is is specifically focused
on the core function of everything that we're doing across this mentorship. And the idea
is, of course, as you know, that if we're going to make millions, we have to impact
millions. And if we are going to impact millions, we're going to need to make millions. This
whole premise of the kingdom that's advancing and moving things forward across the earth,
this expansive glory and expansive depth that's really activating inside of our hearts here
as we go on this journey. And as you know, we've been going through a six part series.
OK, there's six parts to what it looks like to disciple the nations and make millions
and impact millions. The first one is add value. OK, we talked about that, talked about
how adding value is super significant. You've got to figure out how you're adding value.
What is adding value look like? And what does that mean for you in this season? Number two,
we talked about last week is all about finding your field of favor. And if you can learn
how to add value in your field of favor, there's a really dynamic power punch that's really
there for you to really impact, to have impact and impact millions. OK, but the third part
of that is to do that with a healed heart, free from offense. And that's what we're going
to deep dive into today. We're going to we're going to open up our hearts, open up our realm
before you guys. And that's why Claire's here. We love Claire. Give everybody, give Claire
some love in the comments. Doesn't she look fantastic? Her hair looks really good, right?
She was complaining before this about how it wasn't looking good and looks phenomenal.
That's the truth. It's exactly. Yeah, I'm sure. I'm sure. Hello, everybody.
Good to see you. Glad to be here with you. Yeah, it's going to be my heart is healing from hair
days that are good and bad. Which is a real story. Real truth. Truth here. Truth. Yeah.
Just great. Good to see a bunch of you guys jumping in. It's great to have you guys all
jumping in. It's phenomenal to see you guys. We've got a lot of people from all over the place.
Australia, California, Sydney, New Zealand. Lots of great. See, I agree. Look, she is beautiful.
That's nice. Yeah, exactly. See, there's the love. There's the love. Nice. Fantastic. Cool.
Well, let's pray. And then I want to deep dive into it for the next couple minutes and really
just deep dive. Let me finish the six just as a reminder. It's add value in your field of favor.
That's the first two. Then with a healed heart free from offense, number three. Then with
automated and scalable systems and structures to disciple the nations. Okay, those are the next
three. We'll be posting the schedule very soon for the next three weeks. We're just trying to
land all the different speakers that we've got lined up. It's going to be a power packed three
weeks. And so we want to make sure that we're on the money with the times and the dates and
everything before we move everything forward. We're in a season. Here's my prophetic word for
you. This is the season that we're in. And so prophesy over this as well, that it's time to
upgrade everything. We're in a season of upgrading.
Everything just feels like the Lord is elevating us.
It requires separation, but it also requires activation.
And it means as we upgrade everything, we're upgrading our mindsets,
our systems, our structures, the people,
all the systems around us are getting a massive upgrade right now.
And so let's pray.
And then I'm going to check in on your homework from the last session,
because I told you to do a big one and I want to see how many of you did it.
And then we're going to deep dive. Sound good?
Awesome. Well, let's pray.
Father, we just welcome your presence.
We welcome your goodness.
We welcome your mercy.
Welcome your abundance.
Thank you that you are abundant, that you are glorious,
that you are full of divine riches.
Thank you that everything that we need is in heavenly places.
Everything that we are is in heavenly places.
And so because of your nature, God, because of your glory,
we thank you that you have made a way for us to participate
in the divine dance, the divine romance
of the glorious riches of heaven inside this lifetime.
So, God, we just thank you that you've called us to be conduits of heaven
and that you're today even just pre
preparing the ground to flush out all blockers
inside people's hearts, inside people's minds.
God, we just thank you for the for freedom from offense.
We just decree freedom from offense in Jesus name.
I just pray that you would get rid of all offense from the people
and these these people under the sound of our voice right now.
I pray that you would remove all offense, all pain, all trauma
right now in Jesus name and that you would prepare the way
for your glory to land in their hearts.
In Jesus name. Amen.
Awesome. Well, massive love to you guys.
Who all did the homework?
Yes. The last homework, which was two days ago,
I asked you to write a list of 100 things
that you would do if you were 10 times more courageous.
If you did that, why don't you just list off
maybe the top one or two on your list?
And the comments would love to hear some of the things that you would do
if you were 10 times more bold and more courageous.
The the courage of the Lord is stirring.
The glory of the Lord is stirring.
And a lot of the times the breakthrough looks like courage and boldness.
You know, I have a if you think about the when the Holy Spirit
fell on the disciples in the book of Acts, the real like
major fruit that was really there and demonstrated
there was actually was actually that
the the boldness of God was actually on
was released at that time when the spirit of the Lord landed
on the disciples in that season.
The boldness of God was actually what led them to start prophesying.
Peter started stepping out into the middle of the courts
and started proclaiming the good news of the gospel.
This whole conversation about the spirit of the sovereign
Lord releases boldness is actually a healed heart releases boldness.
The spirit of the sovereign Lord releases boldness on his people.
Joshua one night, haven't I not commanded you to be strong and to be brave?
Do not be afraid or discouraged for I and the Lord your God
not be with you wherever you go.
This is the conversation of God.
The spirit of the Lord is upon you for the sake of boldness
to go and stand in the public square and proclaim the good news of the gospel
and actually step in to the process of discipling nations.
But there is a real problem.
There is a real problem.
And a lot of the times we don't we don't talk about this part of the journey
because it's hard for people to to really put money
and wealth inside the same box as heart healing.
And I would like to propose over the session,
and I hope that you're taking notes, is that the heart of God
is intrinsically attracted to those who are willing to go
on the process of discovering what's truly inside their heart.
The process of discipleship, the process of sanctification,
the glory of sanctification is that when we have received Christ's
nature, there are old operating systems that are being overridden
as we go through our life, that we have been totally saved and totally set free.
We are no longer dead to sin, but we are now alive to Christ.
Romans 6, 11.
and says, consider yourself dead to sin and alive to Christ. If we're stepping in
with that conversation, then we have to also go further to understand, as is
normal, as you will have experienced in your life, that when you got saved, not
everything just changed. A lot of things changed, but not everything just changed.
And so there's always this redeeming redemption process that God takes us on
to be able to mold himself into our hearts and to mold ourselves into
his likeness. Even though God sees us as Jesus when he looks at us, when he
sees the perfection, the righteousness of Jesus, there's always a process of
sanctification that also takes place. And one way of it really explaining this is
thinking about the quest is that there's different realms of who we
are. There's our spirit realm, we've talked about this earlier on in the
mentorship, where things we were a perfect seated in Christ, seated in
glory, perfect in every way. And then there's the soul realm, just kind of like
our mind, our will, and our emotions, this whole gambit of place, which is often
where we get stuck before we get to the body realm, where we're trying to
actually act and do the right thing, right? So this is spiritual realm, there's
the emotional mindset realm, and then there's the physical realm. Now when you
put this in a wealth conversation, what usually happens is people say, well you
got to figure out your mindsets and then just behaviorally fix all the problems
that you want, okay? But we have, in this mentorship, we've taken a
different approach. We're saying, okay, the spirit realm is what you got to get
first. You got to understand, you got to receive, you've got to open up the
doorways to the spiritual dynamics of wealth, and then let the spiritual
dynamics of wealth, heaven's wealth development, heaven's wealth process,
impact your soul. And that's what we're going to talk about in this session, is
really deep diving into what does that look like and how do you go on that
journey to develop your soul and let the spiritual side of your world impact your
soul, so that money can actually come from heaven, wealth can actually come
from heaven, glory can actually come from heaven into your life and manifest
through the vessel of your soul and into the earth and actually disciple the
nations and into the earth and create a legacy and into the earth and produce
impact of millions and make millions for such a time as this, okay? Let me, give me
a wave in the comments if that makes sense. I know we've talked about that
before, but we're transitioning from trying to fix all our problems in the
soul realm without the spirit realm, to letting the spirit realm impact our soul
realm and that impact our earthly realm. If that, if that makes sense, let me know
in the comments if that's making sense. Oh, I'm seeing all of your things in here.
This is looking good. Got to 30, well done. That's, that's good. I knew it would
stretch you a little bit. Love this, guys. Really, really great. Amazing, amazing,
amazing. Love that. I would like to fly, too. Absolutely. That would be awesome.
Cool, okay. Well, I'm glad that makes sense. Fantastic. So, let's, let's deep dive into
it. Yep, awesome. Glad you guys are tracking. Very, very cool. Very, very cool. So, Claire,
you want to give us a little bit more context for, for that? Yes, so having a healed heart,
I feel like even just this morning, what I thought about when Seb was speaking was reading
in Hebrews about that God has led us into a faith rest in God, and so he was talking in
the context of even the Israelites and how when he led them from Egypt into the promised land,
obviously they went through the wilderness in between, and his desire was good for them in
that space. He wanted to lead them there. He wanted to get Egypt out of them, him into them,
so that they could actually take the promised land, which I think is a similar process to what
we're talking about with wealth and stewardship and the things in our life, and I think he, he
said he was frustrated with them because they really didn't learn his ways and, and get to know
his heart, but they, they also just forsake what, what really mattered to him, and they, he had made
a way for them to enter into a faith rest, which really was dependent upon him, looking to him for
everything, and I think some of the start of the journey of having a healed heart,
starts with really having Him be the beginning place of this conversation, of
this journey, of trusting Him, of letting Him lead us. And I think in having a
healed heart, we come to a place of...
Sorry, it disappeared for a minute. We come to a place of pain in our
relationship with God. And I think that the Israelites had a place of pain that
came up in their hearts that caused them to start complaining and moving away
from the goodness of God and His purposes in their life. So I think that
in this process, pain is kind of one of the biggest things that can stop us
along this process towards having a renewed mind, towards wealth, towards
stewardship, all of these things. Kind of like Seb said, you know, we have, we have
our, we can have the right mindsets, we can be operating, you know, understand the
spiritual realm, but it's our soul life really and actually taking authority
over, taking power, taking stewardship over our soul life is really what's the
difference, I think, between sometimes getting the results that we want and not
getting the results that we want. And I think we can learn a lot from the
Israelites in their process of knowing the ways of God, of entering into that
faith rest that actually trusts Him, even in the middle of difficult things or
pain that comes up in our life. And so, yeah, I just feel like it's super
foundational to the conversation of how do we, how do we get to that promised
land? How do we get to that place of stewardship and the stewarding the
mindsets that really create wealth in our lives?
It's awesome. Love it. Love it. So, so Claire, if you were to help people on a
journey understand, like, what does it look like to discover what's actually
going on in your heart, like, what would you really say to them? Because
here's the real question that we get when, and I often get this when we're
talking about this issue, right, is what does it mean to be unoffendable? What
does it mean to be, have a healed heart? How do I know if my heart is healed? How
do I know if this is problematic? How do I know if I'm actually in alignment
and, and, you know, oftentimes the, the, the process of renewing your mind, the
process of understanding your heart is, is, you know, it's different. You know,
there's a, I see a question here, what's first, your healed heart or your healed
mindset? You know, and I'd like to propose that, that they're both, they both are
very different and it's not really one or the other, but often, often it takes us
a little bit, it's a little easier for sometimes for us to engage what's going
on in our minds so we can change the way we think easier, but then letting it hit
our heart is actually a different conversation, right? Because, you know,
there's, I might believe, I might choose to think that millions are my normal. For
example, if I was to choose to believe it's normal for me to make millions of
dollars every year, it's normal for me to make, I can renew my mind through
declaration, through envisioning, through opening up the windows to heaven and
just, and just letting that space percolate. It's a whole nother thing for
it to like hit your heart and realize I'm actually, it's a part of who I am
that it makes millions every, every year. I am a person who makes millions every
year as opposed to just intellectually thinking I, I can make millions every
year. There's this place of belief that's different from the place of ownership
and identity that I can like express that. And so like what, how would you help
people navigate what that looks like?
What specifically did you say?
Understanding what's going on in their heart.
Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I think both of those things go together really well. A healed
heart and renewed mindset. I think it's, they go at the same time. I think you're
perpetually having a renewed mind that also leads to a healed heart and a
healed heart that leads to a renewed mind. But yeah, I think that, you know,
everything issues from our heart. And I know that Seb has said that before and
what, whatever's in there, whatever gets stuck in there. And sometimes we don't
even realize that things are stuck in there, that things can be in the way, but
we can just feel like we're trying to move forward and we just are hitting
walls. I know that's what it feels like for me sometimes. And so I think there's
places where the, where the Lord is trying to actually bring up stuff to us.
And I think sometimes.
we just think it's the enemy or we just kind of throw it out that he's creating roadblocks or
you know but I don't know if you've ever heard people say that like we are our own worst enemy
and if we can figure out that like we are actually our biggest enemy not the enemy not anything else
out there but really our own thoughts our own emotions our own things that have happened to us
the stories we're telling ourselves about what happened to us even and so I think it yeah it's
that process of deep being willing to deep dive into the heart and really ask the lord what's
going on in there and we don't go like looking for problems we don't go looking for devils
you know under every stone but I think that the the holy spirit is really good at this process
like he's really kind in this process and he's such a perfect gentleman like he really won't
go places that we don't want him to go and I think that was is what could be so amazing about
this journey towards wealth and even as sev and I the lord has pursued us in this journey it's
one of the things that has actually led us to go into our hearts and deal with this kind of stuff
more than almost anything else journey that we've been on in our life doing ministry together doing
all kinds of things but this process in particular I think some of the beautiful thing about it
is it really is a sanctification process it's a sanctifying process I think we become like
christ in the process of pursuing our greatest dreams our greatest desires purity and wealth
all the stuff that he's doing it's it's like if you shoot for the moon you you will you know hit
the stars you'll go on all these journeys you'll do all this stuff that if you just kind of settle
for like what's in front of you you just don't even really ever start the journey of wholeness
the journey to to what is even possible yeah I love it some of the things that I you know I
think it's important to probably just paint a picture as well of what we're talking about here
because right I would I would write this down whatever is whatever your agreements are when
you have no money will be a thousand times worse when you have money and so whatever you actually
think about money whatever you are emotionally relate to money as whatever you think about
about how money works and operates actually is really impactful for for the journey that that
we're on together right so the if if for example you know oftentimes you see you know when you see
people win the lottery for example they they win the lotto and let's just say it's 10 million
dollars they win the lottery it's amazing they have this great experience but if they don't have
the internal mindsets and abilities and excuse me the ability internal ability to be able to handle
wealth oftentimes they'll go back to you know just having no money within a couple years because they
just spent it all they had no idea what to do and like the the problem that often people will say
when they see that and there's great great teachers out there who are just trying to help you
behaviorally manage your finances now there's a place for that for sure but if you're only
focusing on the behavior and not focusing on the mindset or the spirit realm then you're going to
like just shame yourself into doing the right things with money right the goal of the father
is not to shame you into being the best steward the goal of the father is not to get you to control
money the best for example if if roman roman 6 11 is a really great powerful scripture it's
talking about consider yourself dead to sin and alive to christ open up your another way of
thinking about that is open up your consideration your heart your mind to the idea that you are no
longer alive to sin you are totally dead to sin sin doesn't even have a thing on you anymore
and open your heart to believe that you are so alive to christ that everything is abundantly
flowing into your life now if that's if that's true then you have to ask the question right
if god's nature is as that is what i'm fully alive to then everything that god is i am fully alive to
that as well right so there's this there's this perpetual understanding of of growth and abundance
if we are considering in our hearts that there is a lack and that i have to control
everything in my life to be able to get what i have and make sure that i have a portion the
right things in the right places that i'm not engaging with wealth from heaven's perspective
i'm not engaging with money from heaven's perspective i believe that it's
God's desire that we're all out of debt.
But if your entire group,
if you have teachers just telling you that getting out of debt is all about
money management,
then you're not going to do anything prosperous with wealth when you actually
have it.
And they are out of debt because all you've done is control yourself.
So there's this place of,
of partnership and the spiritual partnership that actually has to be engaged
with and released.
Okay.
So some of the common things that I see that people out there,
when they think about money,
they act around money is they think rich people are evil.
And maybe they've been around rich people that are,
that are not holy or not righteous.
So they've seen a lot of rich unholy people on TV or they've been watching too
much TV about wealth,
wealthy people or anything or something along those lines.
And so they've attached an emotional agreement to the idea that if that money is
bad because wealthy people are bad. Okay.
So why would I want to be a wealthy person if money is,
if,
if wealthy people are unrighteous or something along those lines,
right?
Another one is that I see is there's never enough.
And in my heart I believe there's never enough.
So I act like there's never enough.
And you see this through people who start grasping for things all the time.
You know,
they're the people that run to the front of the line to make sure that they get
their thing.
They push people out of the way.
I know probably they're,
they're aggressive.
They fight people down to the last dollar.
Sometimes people like that are often operating in a spirit of lack and in a
mindset that is not more than enough.
And I have to be,
I have to fight to get to this place.
You know,
and often there's a,
there's a great book that we read early on in this journey called the science of
getting rich.
It paints this beautiful picture of the difference between those who are able to
access the wealth of heaven and those who are not.
And the big difference is that there's two kind of planes in the heavenly space,
right?
One is this competitive plane,
right?
I'm comparing you to,
and me to this circumstance in this situation.
Like that person has that and,
and I don't have that.
Therefore I'm in lack.
So there's this whole comparison thing that God is wanting to break out right
now that causes offense.
It causes bitterness.
It causes resentment versus there's this creative plane that is up above that
that God is existing on that basically says there's more than enough for
everybody.
There's more than enough for all things.
There's this abundant place of the heavenly realms that that is accessible all
the time.
Everything is there.
Then it does.
If,
if this person can have that,
that I can have that and even more because there's an expression that I'm meant
to have.
That's totally different than the person that's over there.
There's no comparison.
Heaven does not understand comparison.
There's no like comprehension in heavenly realm about what comparison is.
Um,
and so there's,
there's these whole concepts that are just,
that are opening up inside of our hearts,
inside of our minds in this season.
Um,
for,
for such a time as this.
And so,
um,
Claire,
I,
I feel like I rambled a bit there.
It had something good in there.
Yeah.
I feel like comparison has really been coming up in our life recently,
just in our own personal world with people around us and things like that.
And really realizing even more recently just where we were getting stuck in
comparison.
And it was really causing us to not steward our,
you know,
they always say like the grass is greener on the other side.
And I think that can,
and the comparison is the thief of joy.
And it really is true because I think when I noticed that we are not in joy,
we're not really like grateful for who we are,
for what God's given us.
And we kind of start leaving some of that stuff behind.
It gets really,
um,
messy,
really fast in our hearts and all these things.
We start looking around us and,
and in that place of comparison is just so ugly.
And so I think we've just been catching ourselves recently in some of those
spaces.
We're like,
Oh,
I think there's some comparison going on.
And it's amazing because as we've been able to do that,
we've been able to really start,
um,
being,
you know,
repenting,
renewing our mind,
repenting,
thinking differently and saying like,
Hey,
actually like,
I'm going to start focusing on my grass that is green,
that,
that I actually can steward the things I can do.
And it's starting to bring like life to us again to be like,
Oh my gosh,
look what we have and start like paying attention to what we do have because it
really is what we focus on that grows in our life.
Right?
So if we focus on what we don't have,
which is comparison because comparison is a root of,
of I don't have of lack of,
they have something better than me.
So when we can actually focus on like what we do have and,
and have spiritual eyes to see what the Lord has given us.
Cause as we've started to do that,
I feel like I've started to grow in this great gratitude.
this gratefulness for everything I do have in my hands, for all the gifts that
I have, for everything that God's given me, and it actually has started to bring
healing to my heart, even in some of the places that felt brokenhearted, just
because of what I was focusing on was not what the Lord is doing. And I think
we've also talked about knowing the seasons in the midst of that as well.
For us has been a big topic of conversation has been, you know, when you
don't know what season you're in, you can't really focus on what God is doing
either, and that can lead to comparison, or kind of idleness, or boredom, or just
comparing to other people. So that can be really helpful as well, is to
know what season you're in, to know what God's doing, so that you can
actually partner with Him in that place. But yeah, we've really been
highlighting that recently. I think we can get really heartsick when it's
unneeded, actually. I think there's really real pain in life, there's real stuff, and
then I think I notice for myself sometimes that I'm the one that
actually is just making life more difficult than it needs to be, by
focusing on the wrong things, and really just not watering the grass that
I'm in, so that I start to have an amazing life exactly where I live, and
focusing on the things that I can be doing. So I hope that's encouraging.
Yeah, I love it. Very, very cool. I think a lot of the question that
gets asked at this point is, okay, so heaven's reality is opening up
whatever I focus on, if in my heart I'm focusing on the other people across the
side of the road, who are trying to keep up with the Joneses.
Keeping up with the Joneses is the fastest way to destroy your financial
boat in the world. If you want to sink your financial ship, compare yourself
to the Joneses across the street, and then drive your entire life to try to be
exactly like them. That comparison spirit, which is really just rooted in a spirit
of lack, is that comparison is what's happening in the soul realm, because
you've believed a lack in the spirit realm, okay? So that's what's going on
here as we continue on that picture, is if you're partnered with comparison,
if you're partnered with that, there's grace, heaven wants to respond and answer
to that, and release creativity, and compassion, and glory. But another thing
that I also see is control, a real thing of control around money.
And so I think there's two things that I really want to hit on throughout the rest
of the session, because we just kind of hit on comparison, but I really want to hit
on control as well, right? Because often what happens, right,
if you've ever been through a catastrophic financial situation where
it's been fine, you know, you've always had enough, and then all of a sudden,
you're in a season of just divine, oh, my goodness, there's nothing.
You know, I've been in that season, maybe some of you have been in that season,
maybe some of you are in that season, and it's a hard season to be in.
Like, I had a season a couple years ago where the Lord just, like,
put us in this season where I couldn't even get a job. I couldn't even get a job
at, like, Target. So for those of you in the United States know what Target is,
it's like not being able to get a job at, like, the warehouse in New Zealand,
or Briscoe's, or not being able to get a job at, like, Home Depot, or Mitre 10,
or Bunnings, or a store like that. I couldn't, like, I literally tried
to get jobs everywhere. I think I applied for over 150 jobs in that season,
and, you know, intentionally, it wasn't just, like, throwing my resume
everywhere, intentionally tried to get these jobs, and the Lord put me in a
season where He was trying to highlight and get rid of this spirit of control and
the spirit of lack that was trying to affect my finances and the way I viewed
finances. I was trying to control it and make sure that I was behaviorally doing
all the right things to make sure that we were living our life, and then the Lord,
like, just said, okay, you're out of control now. You're absolutely out of
control, and you're going to ask me...I was put in this situation where,
like, I literally can't control this. I'm doing everything I can to try and make
the money, and God provided, but I was so unbelievably...I hated it,
to be completely honest. I was a mess a lot of the time.
Claire can attest to how much I hated being in that season of just, like...
Because I just...there's something in me that's just, like, I'm made to work,
I'm made to drive, I'm made to produce, I'm made to do these things.
And then I realized in that season that control had overtaken my ability
to produce. And now I know that God is the one who has given me the ability
to produce wealth, and that was the core revelation that came out of that season.
But it is...
The context of that verse, Deuteronomy 8.18, is God is taking the Israelites out of the wilderness
where they also could not work.
They could not do anything that they had been doing.
They could not control their situation.
They were literally wandering in the desert, trusting that God would provide for 40 years.
It was 40 years of wandering around in a desert with sand upon sand upon sand,
and none of these things was working for them.
They could not produce. They could not do anything.
They could not plant crops. They could not look after their flocks.
They could not do anything like that.
They could not put all of their money in the stock market
because they were literally in the middle of nowhere,
doing the thing that was in front of them,
which was just hanging out and wandering and eating the stuff from heaven.
There is a removal of control.
If you remember, in the Israelites' journey in the wilderness, in the Exodus season,
they actually longed for the leaks and the provision of Egypt.
They wanted to go back to slavery.
They wanted to go back to the controlled, comfortable place,
and God put them in the wilderness season to say,
I am trying to get Egypt out of you because you've been here for 400 years,
and I will no longer have my people suffering under a spirit of control
because God's heart is that you would prosper.
In Psalm 35, it talks about how God takes pleasure in your prosperity.
Let me say that again. God takes pleasure in your prosperity.
It is a good thing that you prosper.
It is a good thing that righteous men and women prosper,
and they do it when they become detached from spirits of control,
spirits of lack, comparison.
Any idolatry that's happening in your life has to go
because if you really want to experience the abundance of heaven,
you have to realize that control, comparison, and lack
are going to be the three main killers and destroyers of your life,
specifically in the area of finances and growth,
but also it can manifest in every area.
I know, Claire, we've talked about this, so maybe you can speak about this,
but lack doesn't just manifest in money.
It manifests in your relationships. It manifests in your family lives.
It manifests in all areas.
Maybe you can speak to that, Claire, about what that has looked like for us
or for you or for anything you want to share there.
Yeah, I mean, what I was really thinking about when you were talking
was just even what it looks like to actually be healed in this place,
to live from a healed heart.
And even as you were talking about the Israelites and control
and all of these things, and I think you said control, comparison, and lack.
And I would add pain to that.
That's kind of another one of the main things of our conversation recently
that really stops you in your tracks.
But I think also wanting to just focus on what it actually looks like
to live from a healed heart.
Like, there's all the things that can get in the way.
There's all of that stuff.
But I think, you know, it looks like trust.
Like, trust is the opposite of all of these things, right?
It's actually living in it.
It's almost like that scripture that talks about like a weaned child,
you know, in the arms of God.
Or what would it have looked like for the Israelites
to really trust the Lord in that process?
You know, it was only supposed to be like a week journey
to the Promised Land from Egypt.
It was not meant to be 40 years, yet alone maybe even 40 days,
you know, in the wilderness.
And so it's like God is always bringing me back to that story
and teaching me from that story about like key things
and things he's putting his fingers on.
And I think all of those are in that story.
You know, I was even thinking about, you know, comparison.
You know, one of the main problems with Israel
was that they were a chosen people.
They were chosen by God to be a special treasure,
just like each of us individually.
We're a chosen priesthood, we're a treasure of God,
we're the beloved of God.
All of these things are true.
And yet, you know, Israel, one of the first things they asked for
was an earthly king.
You know, they wanted to be like the rest of the world,
even though they'd been called out and separated from the people
to be his own special prized people.
So it's like you see that, you see control,
you see, you know, every single time they hit up against a problem,
you know, and just the problem of actually trusting God.
And so it's like, what would it actually look like,
what it'd be personified as in our life
if we actually like trusted God?
Like where can he take us?
What can he do with us?
Myself like I fight that place all the time
I've noticed that so much in my life recently as I've been hitting up against some pain points
Hitting up against some places and at the end of the day, all that I'm really screaming is I don't trust you
And and it's really the process of getting back in to trust with God
Which is such a beautiful rested place. Like I started out talking about Hebrews and the faith rest of God
And it's really a place, you know that God has made available to us to live from in response to him
and I think that's one of the most beautiful things about our life and how it can look and the goal of living from a
healed heart is really such a
rested beautiful place that is
Living in response to God not reaction to life not reaction to the things that are going on around us
it's like that weaned child that's just
Totally able to respond to the Lord in in every single detail of life
You know
It's like I can't imagine what my days would look like if I could live like that every day
Like if I could just get up and like be in that flow in that dance in that space of just like what are we?
Doing today God like where are we going? You notice that relaxed like I trust you
And then I think in that it's like the question of what what is possible from that place, you know
That's the question. I've really been asking is you know, what's possible?
from a place of trust
What where can we go? And and so I think that's really the one of the most foundational things in this process
Is is if you have a healed heart, it means that that you trust God
And there's a lot of things the control the comparison pain all of these things
That really really stop us in our tracks and the enemy really likes to use those things to drive some lies
Into our life and keep us out of all the good things and and the journey to really the promised land
And to wealth and to the things that God has for us
Yeah
Well of it well guys what I want to do right now is
It's just just open up the space to pray and just let the Lord do what he wants to do
I just believe that there's there's people here who've kind of held on to comparison that God wants to rip that out of your life
He wants to restore your life and open up a place of trust in your world
I believe that God there's been comparison. There's been mistrust. There's been pain
There's been trauma all related to money and wealth and and God wants to do release a cleansing fire
Through that, you know, I've had such a good such an incredible journey so far
I don't know recognize that it's just the beginning in this in this space
But I think the you know, I experienced a ton of pain in the area of finance. You know, I remember I remember my
One day I saved up for a watch had been working and I wanted to buy this watch
It's I have it. It's just over there. Still. I still have this watch and I still have this watch because I remember
The story alongside of this this watch I I bought this watch and it was a beautiful watch
I liked it was around $200 at the time. This is a number of years ago
so that was a good amount of money for me to have saved up as probably 16 17 year old kid, right and
the
The the interesting thing was I bought the watch and then I immediately brought when I brought it home
I was super proud of my watch and then
people shamed me for buying and spending so much money on a watch and
It was the first time I really encountered that like place of control
That spirit of control a spirit of lack that spirit of or at least like notably
Encountered it in a way that confused me in a way that was like but I saved up for this watch
So I don't understand why you're not proud of me for doing that. I don't understand why you're not
Navigating this really well, and I don't understand why you would be so aggressively anti me
wearing and buying this watch even though I've saved up for this and I said it was just really this opening up of my mind to
this idea that
the way of
God the ways of spending the ways of wealth are totally abundant
Jesus celebrated a person who spent a year's worth of wages on a bottle of perfume and
Poured it on Jesus's feet. Jesus thinks very differently about wealth than we do
He thinks very differently about the way that we operate and I just believe that God wants to free you
to let the Lord open up an
extravagant perfume and extravagant incense on your life that actually produces fruit and so I just want to pray and then
We'll lead you through some things and we'll go from there
So father, we just want to open up the spirit realm here and just say God
God, like we lay down our lives and we want the costliness of worship to really matter in our lives.
We want the worship of heaven to really just be released over every part of our lives.
And so, God, we lay down all our wealth, we surrender it all.
We say, Lord, come and have it all.
We pour it at your feet.
God, we just want to let the costly reality of heaven just pour forth at your feet.
Let the glory of heaven pour forth at your feet.
So, God, we just worship you.
We honor you.
We create an atmosphere of praise.
We just thank you that you are the king of heaven.
You are the king of glory.
You're the king of wealth.
You're the king of glory.
You're the king of abundance.
You're the king of prosperity.
And so even right now in this place, Lord, as we magnify your spirit, I just pray that your spirit would just waft through the Internet,
waft through the computers and the phones.
God, we say right now, pour out your glory, pour out your spirit.
Let people be set free right now in Jesus' name.
We just speak to the spirit of comparison and the spirit of lack and control.
We say, be gone in Jesus' name.
All remnants of pain, all remnants of trauma, be gone.
We just release the process of heaven, the beautification of heaven, the glory of heaven right now in Jesus' name for such a time as this.
God, we just pray that you would go so deep into every person under the sound of my voice, deep in their soul, deep in their hearts to really grasp the weight of the glory of what you're doing in their lives.
God, we just say, come, come, come, remove the trauma, remove the heartache, remove the pain.
I just believe God is revealing things to you, agreements, moments that he wants you to probably, there's probably some forgiveness that needs to happen just in your heart.
Just forgiving, there's people coming up to you, situations, moments and mindsets right now.
Anything that's coming up, just submit it to the Lord.
Say, God, what do you want me to do here?
What do you want me to say here?
How am I meant to respond here, God?
Show me the way to respond.
Claire, if you've got anything, just jump in.
Yeah, God, I just thank you for meeting each person and what you're speaking to them about, God, and what you're pinpointing and what you're putting your finger on in this and everything that we talked about.
This with God, we just, we thank you that your desire, your greatest desire is for us to have a healed heart, God, that we could have fullness of communion and connection with you, God.
I thank you that you have invited us in by invitation, God, to this process.
And I just give every person here, God, permission to enter the process, God, to not be afraid to enter the process.
The very real process of plumbing the depths with you on this journey, God, that you've really invited us on this journey to go deep, to dive in with you in this process, God, that sometimes can be so messy.
But I thank you that you meet us in the midst of our pain, God, that you meet us in the midst of those scary places, of the darkest places, of the places that we most want to hide, God.
I thank you that you meet us in those places along this journey, that you crack us open, and that you invite us into more than what we could have ever asked for, thought up, or imagined, God.
And so I just thank you that the vision, the goodness, the things that you have ahead, God, just even as when you went to the cross, that it was for the joy set before you that you endured, God, that even if you've asked us to suffer with you,
even if you've asked us to go on the way, the highway of holiness, the way where you go through a narrow way to a broad way, God, I just thank you for giving us eyes to see, to follow you on this way, to take you up on this invitation, to go on this journey with you, God, that you would give us spiritual eyes and ears to hear, to know, to see the deeper things, God, along this journey, that we wouldn't miss out on what you have for us, God,
that you have such incredible things beyond what we could have ever, could ever fathom, God, and that nothing would stop, no pain, no comparison, no lack, nothing that's happened in our lives, God, that you are bigger and that your blood is still enough, God, it's still powerful.
What you did is still enough on the cross, so we just plead your blood right now over each and every person that's here under the sound of my voice to you, God, I just thank you that they would truly experience being set free in these areas, God, we thank you that you are good and faithful.
Yeah, I feel like there's, there's somebody out there who's experienced like the trauma of somebody confronting them about wealth and the picture I'm seeing is like a, maybe you, you had a child.
And you spent a lot more on things like the stroller, the buggy, whatever you call it,
the push, the thing you put the baby in and push it, the stroller, the buggy, whatever
you call it, the, I don't, I know what they're called and just some people call them different
things in different places.
Somebody had that place of trauma where you were shamed for buying the more expensive
thing for your child as like a costly gift.
If that was you or someone's like that, just let me know, I'd love to specifically pray
for you.
But I just believe that God is breaking off trauma moments, places where you've been shamed.
I just rebuke shame in Jesus' name.
Shame for wanting to believe for more.
Shame for believing that heaven's reality is greater.
Just any place of shame or fear or pain in that place, just break that off in Jesus'
name.
The way God, I pray that you would clear out all the dirty pain so that you can get to
the clean pain and really heal the trauma.
God, we just say right now, let your peace come and your will be done in that place.
Yeah, even somebody as well who I think I took, I'm seeing like, I'm seeing the Eiffel
Tower as well.
Somebody who maybe even took an extravagant trip and was just shamed for spending the
money.
I just feel like there's people here that have taken extravagant, made extravagant decisions
with money, and it was an emotional risk, a soul risk, and God wants to release restoration
to that place.
Thank you, Lord.
Thank you for what you're doing there.
Thank you, Jesus.
Cool.
Well, amen.
Thank you, everybody.
Let us know if any of those things landed with you in that prayer time.
We'd love to follow up with you and pray with you guys about what's going on.
We truly believe that wealth and purity go hand in hand.
We believe that there's an unfolding story there and a storyline that God is inviting
His people into, and the process to getting to that is not easy.
There's a journey.
It's a process, but it's really exciting.
Claire works a lot with people who are trying to navigate this place of understanding where
lack is in their life, where they're believing with lack, and help them understand the mindset.
If you're looking for a coach intentionally, Claire is available for coaching.
She's an absolute amazing teacher and coach as well.
If you're looking for something like that to intentionally go deep on some of the things
that are coming up, just know and acknowledge that oftentimes when things like this and
conversations like this happen, that things come up, emotional things come up.
Sometimes you get super triggered.
That's okay.
If you want someone to talk to about it and coach through it, Claire's your girl.
There's a lot that I just wanted to say there, but I'm excited.
There's three whole more weeks left of this mentorship, and we're just kind of getting
started.
It's really exciting.
I'm excited to give you guys the rest of your evening back and kind of go from there.
Any final words, Claire?
Just excited for everybody.
I feel like I want everyone to just leave, but hopefully with an excitement that the
Lord is for us.
He is all about this process.
He's the one who does the work, the healing, the pursuing, the taking us deeper.
Anyone who might be feeling overwhelmed by everything we talked about or all the process
or all the different things, I just pray that you would be encouraged in the Lord, that
He has amazing things for you, better than you could dream up.
He wants your pain and all of that kind of stuff out of the way of the more that He has
for you.
So yeah, I just bless everyone and pray that there would be testimonies of what the Lord's
doing and that you would start to see some real traction in the things that you're believing
for.
Awesome.
Well, amen.
Bless you guys, and we'll see you here next week.
Looking forward to it.
Have a good one.
Good night.