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Now, I want to introduce the topic today, it's a really exciting topic, one of my favourite
topics of life, it's In the Beginning, Divine Family, so we're going to really uncover,
unpack and explore what is the Trinity, what's the nature of the Trinity, who are the Trinity,
we're going to explore that and that is really, really good, what is this concept called the
Divine Dance, where did that come from and how does that impact our lives, so I'm going
to jump into that pretty soon, but great seeing, yeah, just great seeing people saying hello
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Now, oh, beautiful, beautiful topic today, I'm going to jump into the adventure and I'm
just checking this here as well, that's great, that's going live and yeah, once again, I
just can't say enough how much of an honour that it is for me to be speaking with you,
how much of an honour it is for me to have this platform to share a journey with you
like this and to share from my journey, so I'm just going to introduce myself to you
a little bit more, I feel like you get to connect with me and hear a bit of my heart
and my story and who I am and then as we connect a little bit more, then we're going to go
deep into this beautiful, beautiful journey and excited today to talk about divine family
in the beginning. So for me in the beginning, in the beginning of Benji, well I was born at a very
young age and I was actually born in Indonesia out in the jungle. My parents were missionaries
with World Vision. They lived in Indonesia for eight years and they came back to New Zealand
when I was two and not long after that they became pastors and so my life really revolved around
church life, revolved around missions, revolved around Christian activities, revolved around all
of these things. That was my life, that was my parents friends, that was our family friends,
that was who we hung out with, that's who we did life with. Pretty much my world was wrapped up in
church or missions or people wanting to do Jesus stuff. So that's basically all I knew and that's
really good. It was such an awesome privilege really to grow up in that family. My family was
such, my parents were awesome, they're still awesome, they're still some of my greatest supporters
and one of the amazing things that I got as a real gift from my father and my mother, they
were both really amazing at being really intentional about building connection and
building relationship with God. They were always really, really intentional about that.
So I loved that, it was awesome. I would wake up in the morning, didn't matter, pretty
much if my dad was home and it was the morning time or if I woke up and went down the hallway, I
would see the door to his office and a little beam of light coming out from under
his office door because he was up praying, he was up, he'd have a cup of tea and his bible opening, be
in the word, just seeking the Lord every day. So I really got that as a real gift and
an impartation really, inheritance from my parents just to be able to go after the presence and
just to go after God as a lifestyle. So that was awesome to see and
something happened for me personally, even when I was young, before I was even a teenager,
I was already having these reformational concepts, these questions, big kind of questions of the
church. I would look at what we were doing, you know, like we spent all of our time studying Jesus.
Jesus was like the topic of so much of what we did, you know, Sunday school,
children's ministry, church, all these messages were about Jesus and he was this radically, radically
supernatural Jesus and I thought it was really interesting because it seemed to me that what
Jesus did was really effective, you know, when he was out raising the dead, when he was opening
blind eyes, you know, seemed to be quite an effective strategy if the whole idea was to get
people into church and get people saved. So even when I, before I was a teenager, as I was watching
everything that's happening in church life, I was thinking, yeah, well, it probably makes
sense. I think we would be more effective if we were operating like Jesus, you know,
so where are the signs, the wonders and the miracles? And so even at that age, I was really
questioning it and it kind of led to this journey of going, oh, wow, there's got to be
more. And I guess that a lot of us in this generation are really thinking, man, there's
got to be more than just Bible studies. There's got to be more than just going to church.
It's got to be more than just going through the motions. It's got to be more than just, you know,
just sitting in church. There's got to be more. And so that really started burning my heart. Yeah,
there's got to be more. And I sort of kind of came to this place where I was like, I'm going to give
this a real good go and I'm going to check it out. And if God's for real, then I'm all in.
And so by the time I was 18, I'd kind of come to this conclusion, right, I'm going to check God
out. I'm going to go wholeheartedly after and if I can see the reality, that's what I was thirsty
for. And I think so many people now are just thirsty for reality and we're hungry for reality.
We don't want to just, we don't want just to go through religion and motions without a tangible
sense of reality. So we're just like, yeah, I've got to have reality. And that's what I was at.
It's got to be real. I can't just fake a church, you know, church existence. I've got to have the
reality of the kingdom. I've got to have the reality of Jesus and signs, wonders and miracles
were what to me gave authenticity to the gospel message. And because I hadn't seen, I basically
saw none of it my whole life growing up. And so I said in my heart, I was about 18, I was like,
right, I'm going to, I've got to see this. I've got to see signs, wonders and miracles. And so
I started searching and it didn't take long to search online and things like that and see God
was a God that was still doing miracles. I got some awesome training material from John Wimber,
which rocked my world. I've got some really, really good training, content and books from
Yoni Cho, which was like, wow, that's amazing. There was testimonies in there about limbs growing
back and John
Wimba had the craziest testimonies. I was like, wow, this is legit, you know, like God is
Really doing stuff
So I was so stoked to see that. I'm just checking something here now
I just a little
Just a little heads up to people there if for any reason the internet should cut out or anything like that should happen
No worries. Just relax. It's gonna be okay. I will just
Do another like I'll do a part two if there's any any type of technical difficulties and I disappear or cut out, you know
No worries. It's alright. I'll just I'll just log back in and I'll chuck up a part two
If that is you know, if that should happen, so anyway, I started getting hungry for it, but I didn't want to just live off
I didn't want to just live off other people's revelation. You know, I didn't want to just live off
They've seen miracles now I have this burning desire that I wanted to see it for myself
I want to see it first hand through my own hand first hand through my own hands
This is started this journey, but okay Lord, there's got to be more. I'm gonna go after it. I'm gonna go after
What you have?
What you've promised and you know, I spent years going after I spent years
Seeking
After God look it was like when I was 18. I made the decision, right?
That's it. I'm going after it and I would I would do whatever you know, like John Wimber gave me some advice
He said if there's something that you want from God, then he said sometimes it's okay not to be polite and it's okay
Just to let raw hunger
Sometimes it's okay just to let raw hunger lead you and raw hunger is not always
Polite it's not always well thought out. It's not always a well articulated
But this cry for more just wells up on the inside of us and I felt this cry for more
Just coming out and so I'd be up early
praying
Seeking God I'd be out just after him after him after I'd sometimes have these
Intense longing and desire to break up God
There's got to be more and I would just go after it go after it and you know
It was actually it took was like over five years
It was over five years of pursuing God for the more of God before I actually saw a single miracle through my own hands
And then it just broke out, you know
I'm going to share more of the secrets more of the keys that I discovered that actually unlocked it
Unlocked this world of the supernatural for me to see firsthand through my own hands signs wonders miracles
God blasting lives and doing crazy amazing things
I'm going to get into that and you know as we go through the adventure together, which is going to be great
But one thing happened tonight first of all
I had this massive season of discovering wanting to discover the authenticity of the gospel one discover
the reality of the kingdom and I discovered that and actually after I discovered the power of God and the
supernatural signs and wonders of and actually my journey being took it like a little bit of another turn and actually then I
Actually beyond the miracles actually started go deeper and actually really discover more and more than nature
of God the nature of the Trinity and
one thing that was kind of separated Israel and Moses is that
Israel knew the deeds of God
But Moses knew the ways of God and sometimes when you really pursued God for the for the deep things
you can go beyond just the signs wonders and miracles, which is like the
exterior part of God and then boom just start going deeper and actually start
Experiencing and discovering the true nature of God the glory of God what who he is what he's like how he
Operates how he moves how he likes to transition how he likes to wow
I likes to touch lives and you start discovering more and more the mind of God
it's just that's going deeper than just the signs and the wonders and
That was awesome and a massive part of my journey
Then as I started to discover the nature of the father
I started to get baptized in the love of the father. Now. This was a whole that's open up a whole new world
for me to live and I
Began what I'm going to speak about a lot, which is the journey from the orphan illusion
into the bliss of sonship
now when I use the terminology sonship I
use it in a
Gender-neutral way I use it as a generic way and non gender specific term
Sonship just like men of the Bride of Christ
Ladies are the sons of God. So when you're hearing me say
Sonship, it's definitely all inclusive. Just if I was to speak about the Bride of Christ
I'll be talking about the lads just as much as we'll be talking about the ladies
so ladies, you're fully included in sonship and
A lot of the translations when you actually read your Bible now a lot of the translations actually
Change the word from sonship to sons and daughters, but the core the core
Message of what God's communicating there is sonship. So I'm just
I say sonship a lot and it's not a gender specific term.
But I began this journey from the orphan illusion into the bliss of sonship and we're going
to jump into that a whole bunch but I really am going to start zeroing in on today's topic
now.
But I hope that just starts to give you a little insight into myself and maybe just
a few more things just to chuck out there.
My journey really, what my father and my mother imparted to me was this ability to go after
God in the secret place for myself, to find God for myself and that was just such a phenomenal
phenomenal gift that my parents gave to me, the ability to seek God out in the secret
place for myself.
And so I've literally invested thousands and thousands of hours into just being in the
presence, reading the words, seeking his face, praying in the spirit, going after him, having
encounter after encounter after encounter after encounter and getting baptized in the
love of the Trinity over and over and over again.
Ah man, and it has, my world now is so different from the religious world that I knew.
Just the going through the motions that I knew in the past to now, I've discovered this
world where it's a lifestyle, it's a state of being, of being constantly immersed in
the love of the Trinity, constantly surrounded in the oneness of the Trinity.
Oh, just experiencing the delight of the Trinity, like it's never, I never feel distant.
I can't remember the last time I ever thought that I was distant.
Occasionally a feeling of distance will come, but then I just use the truth as a weapon
to annihilate any feelings of distance and there are very, very few and far between that
I would ever even feel distance, which is a completely different world to the world
I experienced growing up in the world that I experienced for so many years, so many years
of trying to get close to God and trying to pursue God and trying to draw near to God
as though there was geographical distance, somehow separating us.
I was trying to draw near to God, somehow trying to close the gap, but I could never
close this gap because it was imaginary.
I'm going to, we're going to explore that heaps more too, but let's, let's jump into
this topic.
In the beginning, divine family, I'm going to get some Bible happening for you as well
and it's going to be beautiful.
Let's start, let's start.
I'm just going to jump into Genesis 1, 27, so I'll read that to you and you grab a drink
of water and then we're going to go to, if you want to grab your Bibles, Genesis 1, 27
and it's going to be beautiful.
Actually, we'll start at verse 26.
Genesis chapter 1, verse 26 to 27, let's check this out, then God said, let us make
mankind in our image, in our likeness, so that they may rule over the fish in the sea
and the birds in the sky, over the livestock and all the wild animals and over all the
creatures that move along the ground.
Verse 27, so God created mankind in his own image and the image of God, he created them
male and female.
He created them, bam, there we go.
This is so glorious, so rich, opens up so much.
It's so deep.
Let us make mankind in our image, in our likeness, so first of all, you see that that's the Trinity
communicating to themselves, so when I say Trinity, that's the Father, the Son and the
Holy Spirit.
There's a good chance that I might use terminology that's new to you, there's a good chance that
I might communicate concepts in a way that are kind of different to you, so if I do use
language that you're not familiar with, feel free to chuck down in the comments later on
just questions about what did that actually mean and we can try and clear up any confusion
that people get in terms of language or definition, so feel free to chuck those down.
Later on, we can check out some of those questions, but it starts off with the Trinity, so this
is the thing about this, before the foundation of the world, before anything's created, before
there's anything, before creation ever began, before the foundation of the world
Before time, in the beginning was God, and God is a trinity.
What does that trinity look like?
What is that trinity all about?
What is the nature of the trinity?
So there's been different words used to try and capture the essence or the heartbeat of
the trinity.
One of them is a Greek word, and the Greek word that's used to try and describe the fellowship
of the trinity is perichoresis, perichoresis.
Now that's a long word, perichoresis.
Peri kind of means to go up and down, and choresis is to do with choreography.
That's where we get the word choreograph, it's from the root word choresis.
So perichoresis sometimes is translated as the divine dance, it's about going up and
down and around and in and out, and it really helps paint a picture for us of the seamless
union of the trinity.
So what really is happening?
This is so important for us to set the scene, the whole story of creation, the whole story
of humanity, the whole story of God's relationship and journey with humanity, we have to really
start at the beginning, and the beginning began before the foundation of the world.
So in the beginning was God, and God has always been the trinity, the Father, the Son,
and the Holy Spirit.
And how did the trinity operate, how do they move, what's their nature, it's so critical
that we understand the nature of the trinity, because the nature of the trinity is the blueprint
for our own divine design.
So if we are confused about the nature of the trinity, then we'll always be confused
about our own identity.
It's not possible for us to discover who we are until we discover and become fully persuaded
of the nature and the character of who the trinity are.
When we look at the trinity, it's like looking in a mirror, it's like, wow, there I am, because
in their image, in their likeness, we were made.
In Genesis, God establishes this principle of the seed, so after their own kind, everything
produces after its own kind.
So, you know, if you get a seed for a watermelon, that watermelon will produce watermelons,
and those watermelons will produce watermelons, and the seed will produce after its own kind.
And if you get elephants, and an elephant breeds, you get elephants.
And elephants beget elephants, and they beget elephants, they beget elephants, and so on.
You have it through their lineage, it's their seed, their DNA, the root of where they come
from.
Where they trace their whakapapa, or that's a New Zealand Maori word for genealogy, where
we trace our genealogy back to determines our kind.
And wow, one of the most phenomenal privileges of being human is that we trace our genealogy
back to the Trinity.
The word Genesis is such a fitting title, you know, it means origins, this is the origins
of our beginning, this is the origins of our identity, this is the origins of who we
are, where we came from.
So our origin is the Trinity, our origin isn't monkeys.
If you got taught that in school, that you're descended from monkeys, they struck out big
time, and they're missing out on so much, because you are not descended from monkeys,
you are descended from the Trinity.
Humanity, always, every single human that's ever walked the earth, traces their lineage
back to the Trinity, which is great news.
Not descended from monkeys, you are made in the image of the Trinity.
So here's a cool thing, even when Paul starts writing the book of Romans, and the book of
Romans is one of the most phenomenal books as far as an articulation of the gospel, a
comprehensive unpackaging of what the gospel is, what the good news really is.
Paul does an amazing job there, and in Romans chapter 1, verse 20, he says something awesome.
I'm going to pull that up for you as well, just going to read that out to you now.
Romans, Romans chapter 1, verse 20, Paul says,
Romans chapter 1, verse 20, if you've got your Bibles, if you're chucking along with
your Bibles, I would encourage you to get your Bibles and to bring those out, because
we're going to check out a fair few Bible verses as we go through.
So Romans chapter 1, verse 20, it says,
For since the creation of the world, God's invisible qualities, His eternal powers, have
and divine nature have been clearly seen being understood for from what has been
made so that people are without excuse so this is this is so cool about when it
comes to wanting to discover God is that creation reveals the divine nature this
is amazing because how good is creation that if you go somewhere that's been
polluted and kind of corrupted and you know like mankind has kind of ruined the
natural environment or if you live in a place you know in a city perhaps where
there's a lot of pollution and things like that you might not get out amongst
creation every day but for me personally I live in it I live in a small town
surrounded by mountains one of the most glorious beautiful places on the planet
and every day I go out there's mountains there's rivers there's lakes and they
are screaming they're just screaming out shouting out just this cry that reveals
the divine nature it's just such beauty such perfection from the from the massive
of the cosmos to the minute of cell structures and things like that
everything is perfect everything is perfect everything is just perfectly
designed and one of the things that creation reveals reveals about the
Trinity is their perfection the creation just declares that that the divine
nature is absolutely perfect in every way any way that you look at God slice
dice and intersect or dissect God any way that you look at him you are going
to discover when you truly discover God that he is perfect and the Trinity is
perfect in absolutely every way now this is a bit this is a big journey for a lot
of us because how many of us have been confused about the nature of God how
many of us have been like oh my gosh I picked up a distorted image of God from
religion or I picked up a distorted image of God from my father who was like
this and so I assume that God was like this and this honestly this is our
number one core issue we're going to go into this in the next session but our
number one core issue for humanity is that we have lost sight of the image of
God of who God is but when we look at creation creation reveals the divine
nature and oh my gosh the divine nature is glorious and for us it's absolutely
critical if we want to go on this adventure into sunshine we have got to
discover the perfection of the Trinity because as we discover the perfection of
the Trinity that we are going to begin our own beautiful journey into sunshine
at an accelerated rate cool so perichoresis let me just articulate this
concept again perichoresis is it refers to the divine dance it refers to the
Trinity you know they're seamlessly one they're dancing they're moving around
they're in and they're out they're seamlessly one together and here's what
they're doing you know like the core dynamic of who the Trinity is and what's
happening in the Trinity is an unbroken cycle of divine love the Father and the
Son pour out divine love perfectly on the Holy Spirit and the Holy Spirit
receives divine love perfectly and the Holy Spirit and Jesus the Son give
perfect expression of divine love to the Father and then the Father and the
Spirit pour out perfect divine love onto the Son and what you have is this
unbroken cycle of divine love where each member of the fellowship of the
Trinity is perfectly receiving and giving perfect expression to the divine
perfect expression of divine love so it's this perfect unbroken cycle of
divine love that they fellowship in effortlessly now the Trinity they're not
trying real hard they're not struggling they're not striving to try and receive
love from each other it's their default setting it's then it's their normal it's
just like they wake up like you know might wake up there we go how we're
gonna start the day and the Trinity boom they start the day not that they
necessarily need to sleep but they start the day effortlessly receiving love from
one another there's no striving to receive love there's no struggling to
receive love that's their constant moment-by-moment state of being it's
constantly immersed in love constantly baptized in love constantly receiving
divine love and constantly expressing divine love right we still there hope
we're still there give me a thumbs up
if we're still live I think we're still live give me a thumbs up if we're still
live yep there we go thumbs up we're still live I can see all those thumbs up
cool good to have you beautiful peeps oh it's an explosion of thumbs and high
fives that's great right did you like that concept you like that definition of
the Trinity of perichoresis like wow this is our this is who God is this is
the nature of God seamlessly one the default setting is to be seamlessly one
smooshed together seamlessly one and perfectly receiving and perfectly
expressing divine love as a perpetual moment-by-moment state of being
constantly receiving constantly expressing constantly immersed in divine
love wow now that's great news because that's the image of the Trinity that's
who the Trinity is that's the nature of the Trinity and guess what that's their
kind that's like their DNA that's their seed and we have been made in their image in
their likeness to bear their image to bear their kind bear their seed so guess what
when we discover who we are we get positioned to also step into this place
of effortless seamless divine union and an effortless seamless receiving and
expressing of divine love as our brand new normal as our brand new state of
being as a default setting now you can see my computer in the background now my
computer has default settings that's just how it's going to operate how it's
going to run once the default settings are in place you don't have to go and
change it around doesn't have you don't have to have go through a big process to
get something to happen it just happens automatically now this is one of the
major things that we want to explore on this journey is we want to change your
default settings well and that can easily be done that's what repentance is
about that's what the renewed mind is about it's about changing our default
settings to enable us to come back into divine design and your divine design is
that you were created in the image of the Trinity to be able to participate
effortlessly seamlessly wonderfully gloriously in the fellowship of the
Trinity as a moment-by-moment state of being which is awesome so I just we're
going to jump in as well like the beginning is so amazing one of the
greatest revelations that you can ever find in the Bible about the nature of
our Father in heaven is in Genesis in Genesis we see this phenomenal
phenomenal revelation of the nature of our Father in heaven so check it out the
first thing that they do when they when they're creating a place to a contact a
context for humanity to live is they call it Eden and it's kind of just
worthy to note that it's not the garden of Eden it's the garden in Eden the
whole land the whole area that whole place that the Trinity created was
called Eden now that's a dead giveaway right there of the character of your
Father in heaven or the nature of the Trinity is that Eden it means it means
delight or a paradise and so you were created to live in the context of
delight you were created to live and to have relationship and fellowship and
communion with the Trinity in a place of delight in a place of paradise now they
didn't there was no conditions on this when when the Trinity created Adam and
Eve they didn't say right your identity is conditional you've got to jump
through these religious hoops right here here's all the rules no you know they
were just unconditionally created for intimacy and they were created to be
unconditionally loved there was no conditions on being loved there was no
conditions on intimacy there was no conditions on the identity they were
created to be loved before the foundation of the world the Trinity had
this this concept inside in their head they're like oh my gosh this is what
we're going to do we're going to create humanity and to you know just to get an
idea of their nature their heart what was going on what they were looking for
what they had intended for humanity is they created a place called Eden for us
a place of delight and this is like one of the most amazing things here is that
the ultimate calling on on Adam and Eve was just to be children and the Trinity
without you know they're going to be the parents so this is like
We've got to get this in our minds as well, like our ultimate calling is simply to be loved.
Before we do anything else, before we try to be anything else, our ultimate calling
is to be loved. And I'm not just a little bit loved, I'm talking outrageously,
extravagantly, supernaturally, wonderfully, mightily, powerfully loved by the Trinity.
That's what you and I were created for. That was what the Trinity always had in mind. Their heart
towards us is a heart of delight. If you haven't realized it yet, the Trinity, the Father, the Son
and the Holy Spirit are outrageously, radically, unconditionally delighted in you. Now that is
so massive. It's not a love with strings on. It's not an identity with strings on. It's not intimacy
with strings on. This is simply who you were created to be before the foundation of the world.
You have got one of God's best ideas. Before the foundation of the world, God had this crazy idea
and that amazing, crazy, outrageous idea was you. And He created you because He didn't have
one of you. And He created you because He didn't have one of you, so that He could
pour out unconditional love on you, so that you could know who you are. And not just that,
but the Trinity always desired that humanity would seamlessly participate in the divine family,
that humanity would seamlessly participate in this fellowship of the Trinity. But how often,
how often have we made love conditional? And this is a crazy thing about love, right?
I don't know about you, but I don't know what your biological family, I don't know what that was like.
Now, the moment we say biological family, so many of us have triggers, have like, oh my gosh,
biological family, because there's so much chaos in our family lives. The amount of abuse that
goes on, the amount of trauma that takes place, the amount of destruction and damage that takes
place in our lives in the context of family is outrageous. There's so much that happens there.
And we get so many of our paradigms, so many of our concepts of what is normal, what is real,
get twisted and skewed and messed up in our own families. So sometimes when you hear,
you know, you hear someone talking about divine family, you're like, whoa, I'm not into family,
because families where I had so much chaos, so many issues, so many challenges in families. But
no, no, no, no, not in divine family. So one of the major issues that we have is that
everywhere we go, we learn this concept of, we learn this concept of performance-based acceptance.
And for a lot of people, they learn it in their family. Like if you do this, this, this, and this,
you're going to be accepted. But if you do this, this is where you cross the line. That's it.
That's over. If you step over this line, there's no coming back from that. You know, like all the
acceptance or love, it's going to drop off. And if you don't learn that in your family,
how about you try and go to, go to your school. And I mean, kids are amazing at drilling into us
performance-based acceptance. If you do this, I'll be your best friend. If you don't do this,
I won't be your best friend. I've got a five-year-old, a three-year-old and a one-year-old.
And the one-year-old doesn't really say this at all. But the five-year-old and three-year-old
sometimes have these conversations like, if you do this, I'll be your best friend.
And you know, if you don't learn performance-based acceptance in your family or at school,
which I'd be surprised if you haven't, then go to church or go to a sports group or go to your
workplace or just interact with other people. And you soon start to discover that there is this
concept of performance-based acceptance, performance-based acceptance. And there's a
price tag on love. Now, this is a crazy thing because what we've ended up doing, because this
happens not just in our families, in our churches, in our school environments, in our workplaces,
in our sports groups. This happens absolutely everywhere. Everywhere we go, we see performance-
based acceptance. And so we transfer this concept of performance-based acceptance into
our romantic relationships as well, into those relationships that you have with, maybe you're
married or maybe you've got a boyfriend or a girlfriend or maybe you're, I don't know what
your status is, but we transfer these concepts. Hey, Peter, I see all these awesome people jumping
on. So good to have you all. We saw all these crazy demonstrations of performance-based acceptance
in our lives and we transfer them.
to our romantic relationships as well and marriages it's a major issue and so
love gets distorted because we've actually started to call performance
based acceptance love right you do this this this and this and then I'll accept
you and then it'll be okay and then I will do this for you and so what we've
ended up doing without realizing it is we've actually taken this concept of
performance-based acceptance have called performance-based acceptance love
and it's not so then when God comes along and says to us hey I love you we
don't actually hear him actually saying hey I love you we hear Oh God wants
performance-based acceptance Oh God wants to God wants me to do all these
things and man that is religion religion is a system rigged to fail religion it's
going to tell you that righteousness has a price tag now self-righteousness
has a price tag but self-righteousness won't won't do you any favors at the end
of the day you don't want self-righteousness self-righteousness
comes from doing everything right yourself you don't want that type of
righteousness you want a righteousness that is by faith from first to last
which is not your faith it's God's faith now we don't oh this is so outrageous
it's God's faith God's the one that said that you're the righteousness of God in
Christ Jesus and so our righteousness self-righteousness based on works based
on doing a lot and it's really connected in with this whole concept of
performance-based acceptance but when God has a concept of love it is totally
different God's concept of love is absolutely unconditional no strings
attached yep that means you could be a radical scallywag you could be a big
bad scallywag and God's love for you will not will not diminish it will not
flinch it will not withdraw it will not drop in any way Isaiah actually has this
crazy crazy word I'll put the verse in the comments later but he says all of
our righteousness is as filthy rags to you now this is a crazy thing and I
don't even know how this got in the Bible someone should have vetted what
Isaiah was actually writing because this is like I was like what how can that be
in the Bible but it says all of our righteous acts are as filthy rags to you
now all these unrighteous or all these righteous acts that's self-righteousness
that's all the stuff that we do to attain righteousness and our self it's
all the things that we do to try and earn God's love through our own striving
we're doing all these things to try and earn God's love the reason we do all
these things to try and earn God's love is because we haven't realized that his
love is unconditional the love of the Trinity is unconditional just like Adam
and Eve they didn't do anything to be loved they were simply created to be
loved and you and I have simply been created to be loved and the ultimate
calling on our lives is to discover and experience and work in the bliss of
knowing that this love of the Trinity is not conditional just like Adam and Eve
we were simply created for it we were created to be loved there's nothing we
ever had to do to earn his love because his love is unconditional in nature his
love is not performance-based acceptance so all of our righteous acts have become
as filthy rags to you so the crazy concept now this is this is gnarly this
is why I'm saying I don't know how it could even possibly be in the Bible but
the terminology there in the Hebrew for filthy rags is actually used menstrual
cloths now that's a that's a big crazy thing like oh my gosh but if you check
it out if you look in the Hebrew the Hebrew writing there for filthy rags is
actually used menstrual cloths which is I'm like oh my gosh that's nasty stuff
I was I why did you put that how did that even get in the Bible but it's like
what why is that what is this concept of self-righteousness like make God so
disgusted that he would use it he would compare it to like if we were to
paraphrase that it's like God saying all your performance-based acceptance all of
your attempts to try and earn my love are as pleasing to me as a handful of
used tampons which is just gross crazy language but that's the language that
the Bible uses so why is it so crazy to God and so disgusting to God that we
would try and earn his love it's because his love is unconditional in the moment
that we put a price tag on love it's not love that's why God's love is always
going to be unconditional because the moment we put a price tag on love it is
no longer love and there's an ancient profession where there's a price tag
Put on a perversion of love and that price tag that's put on the perversion of love, you know, we
We kind of do that with God
unwittingly without realizing as we spend all that time performing performing performing trying to earn his love trying to do just enough to be
Loved by him and he's like guys stop stop stop. It's not that he doesn't want us to perform. Well
Here's what he's saying. He's saying
You just loved
You were created to be loved you were created to be outrageously
extravagantly wonderfully
Supernaturally outrageously loved and then from that place of knowing that you're already as loved as love can be
From that place then then perform then excel then thrive then live your best life
Then be phenomenal then be the best that you can be from that place of knowing that just because you were created
That was that was more than enough of an excuse for God to be like I am outrageously outrageously outrageously
Infatuated over the top of the charts in love with you. He created you
Because he didn't have one of you and he wanted one of you and the Trinity
Their longing their hearts desires that you would participate with them in this divine dance in this divine dance of
Perichoresis
Where you discover your place in the dance and you have a place in the dance
And that's why you were created
You were created to partner with the Trinity to have your place in the divine dance
It's like this there's a place for you. There's a space for you in the divine dance
There's a place for you to have the same type of perichoresis fellowship with the Trinity where you experience
Seamless union where you experience what it's like to have divine love filling you flooding you flowing through you on a
moment by moment
Basis as a perpetual state of being as a lifestyle as your state of being when you receive
Divine love perfectly and when you give perfect expression to divine love as a moment by moment state of being
Now that just coincidentally that's my definition of what sonship is sonship is the ability
You want to hear this? This is an awesome
Sonship is the ability to receive divine love perfectly and to give perfect expression to divine love
That's what mature sonship looks like when we are walking in our sonship. That's what our lives look like
That's how you can tell someone's maturing and their understanding of their identity of who we are
We become a
manifestation of love
Love fills every part of who we are love floods every part of our being every
Reflex of who we are becomes love every time someone hates us every time the world attacks us every time
Persecution comes against us and cuts us. We bleed love as a reflex
That's the the intention of the Trinity is to include you in this perichoresis that you participate in this divine dance that you find
your place in the divine dance and realize that you were created to be
unconditionally outrageously
extravagantly loved by the Trinity
That's why they created Adam and Eve for them to participate in the divine dance and to realize that they were always always
Always loved they were predestined to love
Now something else that I really love about Genesis about the story in Genesis in Genesis
Chapter 2 verse 8 it says and and God planted a garden
For Adam, how awesome is that?
You just he's just he's in this place in Eden is the context of delight
And this is the context that God wants to have a relationship with you
He wants you to realize that he is absolutely outrageously completely unconditionally off the charts over the moon
Delighted in you
Every moment of every day now
This was a big concept for a lot of people to get their heads around what God's not angry with me
No, God's not mad at you. God is mad about you
God is not mad at you. God is mad about you
He's delighted in you from the very beginning you were conceived in the context of delight
The Trinity had this idea this context this this this concept of who you could be
Imagined who you would be and you were conceived in delight regardless of your earthly parents regardless of the how your earthly
Biological conception took place before that before the foundation of the world you were conceived in delight
You were the delight of the Trinity and you were brought forth in delight. And so
The father loves the father. He goes out and he prepares a garden for Adam. It's just awesome
He plants a garden for Adam and then he brings Adam to this garden in the place of delight and he's like tada
and this garden is
Awesome, and it's wonderful and it's beautiful. And so you just see that the
The nature of the father in that, how tender the father is, I just found one of the greatest
revelations of the father for me in this Genesis story where the father creates a garden, he
creates Adam perfectly in his image. He didn't create Adam as a servant, as a slave, he created
him in the Trinity made humanity to bear their image and their likeness. They have done the
craziest, craziest thing. I don't think many of us would have done that, but they did that.
It's so outrageous. They created us exclusively to find us in their image.
Wow. For humanity to forever bear the truth, the reality that we were made in the image of God. Now
that is wild. And then after that, God brings, you know, like God brings Adam, he puts him in
this garden. It's just amazing. And he's like, oh, wow. He's taking care of every need. He's
being so gentle. He's being so tender. He's being so thoughtful. He's being extravagant. Everything
is actually over the top, you know, like there's way more given than, uh, than you would think
needed to be given. But the father is being extravagant in his expression of love. The
Trinity is being extravagant in their expression of love. And then the father's like, oh, but
there's no, uh, there's no, uh, lady for Adam. He's like, oh my gosh, we need a lady. We need a
lady in this conversation. We need a lady in this dance. It's going to be perfect for Adam.
He created Adam, uh, to have a longing and a desire for Eve. And then he created Eve to fully
satisfy the longing and the desire so that, you know, Adam could live with the desires of his
heart. I love some 37, four delight yourself in the Lord, and he'll give you the desires of your
heart. And he wants to satisfy your desires. He wants to give you, uh, answer your desires with
great, beautiful things. And so he does that with Eve. And it's like, wow, at this point in the
story in Genesis, the father, uh, the Trinity have demonstrated such extravagant love. They've
created the truth that Adam and Eve created humanity in the context of Eden, created humanity
for extravagant delight, just to be unconditionally love. And this is one thing like take this away.
The ultimate calling on your life is to be perfectly loved. The ultimate calling on your
life is to be perfectly loved extract, not just a little bit of love. So let's just think about
this for a moment. If your life experience so far is less than you, if you know, if you don't know
as your normal, a life of outrageous, extravagant, supernatural love from the Trinity, then I've got
good news for you. An upgrade is on its way and upgrade is on its way because this is what you
were designed for it. We're going to, over these 14 days, lay the foundation for you to actually
step into that because you can actually step into that. And this is what my whole life revolves
around is actually empowering people to step into the divine dance, empowering people to step into
this reality where, you know, I've worked with, uh, so many people who've been through extreme
trauma. Um, they've been raised in brothels. They've been beaten by their parents. They've
been through extreme trauma. They've got the physical scars on their body still from the
beatings of their own, uh, parents, or they've had a one, one young lady face to face. Her own father
said, no, nobody could ever love someone like you. I'm like, what? Um, and so many that have
experienced abuse in their own families and so many people who've lived in chaos and their normals,
uh, their normals are filled with a love deficit. There's this massive love deficit,
but I've got great news for you in this adventure, in this journey, we are going to lay the
foundations for your normal to change around love. You don't have to live with a love deficit.
You can live in a love baptism. You can live in a love overflow. That's what you were created for.
That's what you were destined for. Uh, that's what the divine life is all about. That's what
you're invited into. Perichoresis, uh, dancing with the trinity, sharing the divine dance is not
just, uh, like this impacts every single part of your life because being included in the fellowship
of the trinity and dancing with the trinity, and it includes, uh, experiencing their life,
the divine life as your normal. It includes experiencing the divine life as your default
setting, how you go through every life, every day of your life, actually participating in the
divine life. All the emotions of the trinity become your emotions, the ecstasy, the bliss,
the awe, the wonder, the delight that becomes your normal becomes your brand new normal as you step
into this. And that's where we're going on this, uh, this adventure, which I'm so excited about.
I'm going to give you, uh, another, another bit of, um, uh, scripture here.
Uh, we're going to jump into one of the most beautiful, uh,
is in the Bible, John chapter 17 and looking at verse 20 through to verse 26, so here we
go, John chapter 17, if you've got your Bibles, grab this out, John chapter 17 verse 20 to
26, my prayer is not for them alone, I pray also for those who will believe in me through
their message, that all of them may be one father, just as you are in me and I am in
you.
May they also be in us so that the world may believe that you are in me and I am in you,
he's describing perichoresis, he's describing the divine dance, may they also, now this
is you, this is your part, this is your inclusion in the dance, may they also be in us so that
the world may believe that you have sent me, I have given them the glory that you gave
me, that they may be one as we are one, I in them and you in me, so that they may be
brought to complete unity, that's like perfect union, so that humanity might come into this
place of perfect union, so that you personally could come into this place of perfect union,
perfect union with the Trinity, then the world will know that you sent me and have loved
them even as you have loved me.
Now how wild is this?
This was the deal breaker for me in my life journey, in my struggle, my personal battle
with performance based acceptance, this is the deal breaker for me, it was right here
in John 17 verse 23, because when I first realized this, I was like, what?
This is not possible, it's not possible that the Father could love me the way that, just
the same way that he loved Jesus, because in my head, I had picked this up through everything
that I've been through in life, I picked it up, performance based acceptance, which meant
Jesus, he was perfect, his performance was perfect, so he got 10 out of 10 love from
the Father.
Me, I thought in comparison to Jesus, my performance was less than a 1 out of 10, like far, far
below a 1 out of 10, and so my assumption was that because Jesus' performance was 10
out of 10, and my performance was less than a 1 out of 10, all I was worthy of was the
scraps of love, and Jesus was worthy of perfect love, and I was worthy of the scraps of love,
but that is not what Jesus talked about, because Jesus talked about this concept of divine
family, this concept of unconditional love, that we would know that the Father loves us,
the Trinity loves us, the Father loves us, with the exact same love that they have for
Jesus, and that blew my mind, and that was like the verse that absolutely destroyed performance
based acceptance in my life, it just destroyed performance based acceptance, because I realized,
oh my gosh, oh my gosh, he loves me, with the exact same measure of love that he loves
Jesus, which is this outrageous, massive, unconditional, extreme, phenomenal, unconditional
love, the same love that he has for Jesus, he has for you and me, it's unconditional,
it's perfect, it's unflinching, it's unrelenting, it's extravagant, it's off the charts, and
there's nothing you could do to earn it, there's nothing you could ever do to be righteous
enough in your own strength to be self-righteous to try and earn it, God would be like, yuck,
you're putting a price tag on love, it's like you're comparing me to a prostitute, it's
like, no way, I don't do performance based acceptance, he says, I just do love, God is
not in the business of performance based acceptance, he's in the business of love, and there's
no price tag on love, because the moment love has a price tag, it is no longer love, the
moment love has a price tag, it is no longer love, and the Father just says, you know what,
boom, it's unconditional love is how I roll, it's who I am, it's my nature, and this unconditional
love is the love that I have for you, and it goes on, it just gets better and better,
verse 24, Father, I want those you have given me to be with me where I am and to see my
glory, the glory you have given me because you loved me before the creation of the world,
now this is awesome as well, because Jesus just said that we would know that the Father
has loved us in exactly the same way that he loved him, and now he's saying that, Jesus
is now saying that he was loved by the Father before the creation of the world, in other
words, he's also saying that you and I, we have been loved by the Father before the creation
by the Father before the creation of the world. There has never been a moment in
our existence where we have not been fully, perfectly, extravagantly,
outrageously loved by the Trinity. That is always who we've been. We've always
been the Beloved. There hasn't been a moment in history when we haven't been
the Beloved. You and I have always been the Beloved from before the foundation
of the world. There hasn't been a day, there hasn't been an hour, even in the
midst of your greatest trauma, even in the midst of your greatest rejection,
even in the midst of your greatest betrayal, there hasn't been a second,
there hasn't been a millisecond, there hasn't been a moment where you haven't
been perfectly, outrageously, extravagantly, wonderfully loved by the
Trinity. They have loved you every moment of your life and they still love you
right now with this massive, perfect, unconditional love and they still long
to have you brought into the perichoresis, brought into the divine
dance, where you participate with them in the divine dance as your state of being.
Verse 25 says, Righteous Father, though the world does not know you, I know you
and they that you are, I know you and they know that you have sent me. And this
is amazing. Verse 26, we're going to cover this again and again on this adventure.
Jesus says, I have revealed you to them. He's talking about the Father. He said, I
have revealed you to them. Now this is massive about the call of Jesus. This is
one of the number one things that Jesus did. But he says here, I have
revealed you to them and I will continue to reveal you to them in order that the
love that you have for me may be in them and may be felt in their hearts. Now
there is an unconditional, experiential, supernatural, everlasting, eternal love
that has never flinched since before creation and it is totally
unconditional. It's the same love that the Father has for his son Jesus. Now I
think, oh my gosh, the love that the Father has for Jesus, it's massive, it's
extravagant, it's huge. That is some serious love and then I could never have
comprehended or imagined that he would love me with that same degree of love,
with that same measure of love, with that same unconditional love. It just blew my
mind and rocked my world that the Father loves me with exactly the same divine
love that he has for the Son. And he has that same love for every one of us and
he wants us to be flooded with it, immersed with it, baptized with it on a
moment-by-moment basis. I'm just checking if, yeah, I think we're going to, I think
we're going to wrap up, wrap up about here for today. Just a few recaps
for you on today. Perichoresis, it's the divine dance, it's seamless union,
seamless participation. It's, oh wow, and it's out of perichoresis, out of this
place of the Trinity, having this extreme love and this divine dance, it's out of
that place of the divine dance that the Trinity created humanity. And the divine
dance, perichoresis, the sound of it, it's like if there was a sound to perichoresis,
if there was a sound, it would be the sound of delight. That's, when you take
love to its extreme, if you take love to, you know, on an extreme tangent of where
love goes, when you really, really love someone, it turns into delight. So the
sound of perichoresis, the sound of the Trinity, the sound of the divine dance is
the sound of delight. And then you see delight, it's like Eden is a, they're
attempting to reproduce perichoresis in Eden because Eden means delight as well.
And actually the foundation of the Trinity, I mean, the Trinity itself, the
divine dance, the fellowship of the Trinity, now it's the foundation of heaven.
It's the atmosphere of heaven. It's the heartbeat of heaven. This is, it's
literally, you know, everything in heaven is built on, flows from, overflows from
perichoresis, flows out of the divine dance. So everything that you're going to
find in heaven, it's just saturated in the sound of delight. It's immersed in
the sound of delight. It comes out of the sound of delight, or the sound, the sound of
Eden. Eden, delight, paradise, that's what the Trinity sounds like. That's what
perichoresis sounds like. That's what it looks like. It's this overflow of the
divine dance, an overflow of delight, an overflow of paradise, an overflow of perfection.
So perichoresis is really what the atmosphere of heaven is founded on.
The heartbeat of heaven, now when we're called to bring heaven to earth, I'll chuck this
in here as kind of a close, as a close for us as we kind of bring this in for a landing
for today, but perichoresis is the blueprint for what heaven looks like.
If you want to experience heaven, you really want to experience perichoresis, you want
to experience what it's like to step into this place of relationship, of perfect relationship
where it's an unbroken cycle of divine love where each person is absolutely, outrageously,
unconditionally delighted in the other and it's an unbroken cycle of divine love and
that's what actually bringing heaven to earth looks like.
Bringing heaven to earth is far more than just signs, wonders and miracles, bringing
heaven to earth is extending the fellowship of the trinity, expanding perichoresis, expanding
that into our world and so sunshine is the ability to receive divine love perfectly
and give perfect expression to divine love.
That's where you go when you mature in your sunshine.
When I say upgrade your normal in 14 days, that's what I'm talking about, it's about
an upgrade in your capacity to receive love and an upgrade in your capacity to express
love which will upgrade your capacity to bring heaven to earth because bringing heaven to
earth is not about numbers, it's about quality, bringing heaven to earth is not about having
a massive building, about having a massive church, about having massive numbers, it's
not even about having massive numbers of miracles, bringing heaven to earth is about quality.
If we want to build authentic expressions of heaven on earth, then the calling for us
is to reproduce an authentic expression of perichoresis, it's to extend the fellowship
of the trinity.
Now my definition of the orphan illusion is the inability to receive divine love and the
inability to give perfect expression to divine love.
So for us if we want to grow in our capacity to bring heaven to earth, then we need to
grow in our capacity to receive divine love and express divine love and participate in
the divine dance because this is what the trinity has been always about from the very
beginning.
It's this divine dance of delight, of perichoresis, of unconditional love, it's the sound of heaven,
it's the atmosphere of heaven, it's just this phenomenal, phenomenal dance with the trinity
and our job like bringing heaven to earth is it starts by learning to participate in
the dance, it starts by learning to receive divine love, it starts by learning how to
get baptized and immersed and filled and saturated with heaven and so it's actually
impossible when we've got these orphan mindsets that restrict our ability to receive divine
love and restrict our ability to express divine love, it's actually impossible for us to bring
heaven to earth.
So if we want to bring heaven to earth, then we need a viral outbreak of sonship because
sons, they just overflow heaven, it's their default setting, heaven is their default setting,
paradise, Eden, it's their default setting and they effortlessly bring the atmosphere
of heaven, effortlessly bring the atmosphere of heaven and the atmosphere of the perichoresis,
the atmosphere of the trinity, the atmosphere of divine love, the atmosphere of perichoresis
comes with sons everywhere they go as a default setting effortlessly without any striving,
without any struggle, it just effortlessly flows because it's their default setting.
So I want to pray for us and just kind of bring things to a close for today but I'm
excited, we're going to go on this journey, you're going to get upgraded in your ability
to participate in the divine dance as a moment by moment state of being.
Wow, Trinity, I thank you so much for every single person that's here, I thank you for
every person that's hearing these words, I thank you for every person that's a part of
this adventure and Trinity, I thank you for just a massive revelation, a massive mindset
shift when people think about who you are, even right now I declare that there are changes
taking place in people's paradigms, see even right now people have had these false images
of who God is, these false images of God that have said no, because of this experience I've
taken this understanding of who God is and we've got these false images of who you are
but right now Trinity, I thank you that you're releasing baptisms in your love, I thank you
that you're releasing radical love encounters, I thank you that even right now I can see
a picture of this glory just flowing into people's rooms right now, I just declare that
the glory of God is just moving right through this camera, right into your life.
room right into your world right where you are right now right into your space
the glory of God is flowing into that place and there is a glory that's
saturated in love it's a baptism in the Father's love and so I declare in the
name of Jesus a fresh wave of baptisms and the supernatural love of the Father
I declare the power of Romans 5 5 but the love of God has been poured out into
our hearts through the Holy Spirit so Holy Spirit I thank you right now for
pouring out pouring out pouring out pouring out a supernatural baptism in
the love of the Trinity for releasing the atmosphere of heaven into people's
hearts I think you that right now you're breaking off performance-based acceptance
I think you're releasing a revelation of unconditional love I think
you're releasing a revelation for people right now that they are worthy to be
loved by you worthy to be loved extravagantly passionately outrageously
unconditionally because they were simply created to be loved whoa Holy
Spirit flow right now through this camera through this microphone flow all
over the world and just begin to touch people's hearts with a fresh baptism
Lord and delight the Lord just baptized people of fresh in this revelation that
you are the delight they are the delight of your heart they are the focus of your
delight pour it out in Jesus name Holy Spirit more and more and more and more
and soften our hearts as we go on this journey as soften our hearts and prepare
our hearts to be receive a fresh this radical radical radical baptism and the
love of the Father that changes everything and changes us and changes
everything about us forever and empowers us to step into our sonship and empowers
us to dance with you in this fellowship of perichoresis this fellowship of the
Trinity as we dance with you seamlessly and effortlessly in Jesus name wow
amen beautiful hey well massive love to you all I look forward to catching up
with you again very soon the next live you'll see it soon you'll get an event
notification but it is on Wednesday at 8 p.m. New Zealand time look forward to
catching you there and let's let's chuck out some some thoughts as well put down
some comments I would love to just get from you why don't you put down in the
comments how a percentage of how loved you feel as your normal what do you
think your normal is as far as how loved you feel just put that down in the
comments like 80 or 20 or 30 or a hundred how loved do you feel as your
default setting we want to see people strike make massive growth in how loved
they feel and so why don't you chuck that in the comments how loved do you
feel as your normal are you a 10 20 30 percent 40 percent 50 percent are you
just Florida you feel a hundred percent loved all the time would love to hear
that and we'll catch you very soon if you do have questions I'll I'll have a
crack at answering some of those questions over the next day or so as
well but love you and we'll catch you all very soon delighted and honored to
be on this adventure with you oh that's right remember as well two hours two
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