Good evening, good evening. How are you doing? Hope you're doing great tonight.
Excited to hear questions and have a good time of questions and answers
tonight. This is what another beautiful day we've had. I've been with my parents
at my parents' place in Karikari, which is amazing. Hope you guys are doing well.
Renee, good to have you with us. Michelle, lovely to have you there.
Joe, good to have you jumping on board. Ginny, lovely guys. Good to see you.
Claire, what a lot of amazing, amazing people. Welcome guys, welcome. I really
love you. I am really delighted to be sharing this journey with you. Hope you're
doing well. Give a wave, give a high-five if you're out there in Facebook
world. Sandy, good to see you. Yes, kia ora, kia ora. Michelle, Claire, oh that's great to
hear that you're doing a lot better today, Claire. Monica, welcome Monica. Renee,
hello. Great to have you guys with us tonight. Oh, The Giant Slayer, yes. I like
that. I really like that movie actually, Jack the Giant Slayer. That's got some
really cool, really cool parallels with David and Goliath. He gets five magic
beans. David had five stones. Yeah, good stuff. Oh Bex, kia ora, kia ora. Welcome.
Oh man, I'm delighted to be sharing this adventure with you guys. Hi Monica, good
to see you and welcome whether you're joining us in delayed coverage or
whether you're here with us live. It is awesome to have you with us tonight and
I'm excited about the questions that are going to come up tonight. So I hope you've
been thinking about that. Hope you're ready to ask me some real tricky
questions and I'm really excited to share the journey with you and process
with you around what we've been doing. We've had a couple of awesome sessions
the last couple of weeks. We had unprecedented revival. Kia ora, kia ora Bex.
Good to see you. We had unprecedented revival last week and we've had systemic
revival this week. Both of those messages are about kind of setting us
towards having a bit of an idea, a bit of a perspective of where God's taking
things. So yeah, lots of love to all the family. Great to have you on board
tonight. I'm excited to chat about this and the other thing we've been chatting
about as well is about dreaming and bringing your dreams to life. So give a high
five, thumbs up or like yes, some type of response if you feel like your dreams
have received some really valuable input. It would be great to hear from people
what that's been. But who's been getting some valuable input on your
dreams? Jan, good to see you. Lovely to have you with us. Yeah, feel free as well.
You know, right now is a great time just to say hello to everyone. A little bit
more of a relaxed night because we didn't have a specific teaching to go through. So yeah,
why don't you go through and just say hello to everyone. Claire, I'm so
happy that you're doing better today. Massive love to you. We really, really
care for each other as well. So let us know how you're doing and maybe that's a
good space to start tonight. How are you doing on like on a one-to-five scale?
Five is absolutely phenomenal. One is like I'm only like, I'm only just making
it in life. How are you guys doing tonight? I'm banging in, I'm clocking in
at a five out of five tonight. Doing really well. Just had a great day and the
Trinity's awesome. I'm just already feel their presence so good. So how are
you doing tonight? Be great to have you whether you're live or whether you're
delayed. How are you doing out of five? I'm a five out of five tonight. Would be
sweet to hear from you how you are doing. A five plus plus plus as well.
Michelle is knocking it out of the park. How about everyone else? Would be good
just to be able to get a gauge and that way we can be thinking of you, praying
for you, connecting with you if you're not doing so great. What else have we got
out there? Who else is doing well? Awesome day. Five for Bex and Gizzy. That is
ultimate and looking forward to hearing from the rest of you. I'm gonna pray now
and then we're gonna get into it. Sandy hitting a five. Got an awesome download
for Papa on strategy today and prayed for some awesome. Kiriwai is a five plus.
Boom! That is ultimate. That is such good news guys.
Let's pray and let's spread the love.
So Joe weighing in at a three,
so let's shoot some love Joe's way as well.
But Papa, Jesus, Holy Spirit.
Oh, we just stop right now and we are so delighted.
Wow.
We're so delighted that we've been included
in this divine dance.
We're so delighted that we are one with you.
We're so delighted that we're perfectly loved by you.
We're so delighted that your love for us
is relentless and nonstop and it never ceases
and it never flinches and it's constant and it's massive.
And we are so, so thankful for your phenomenal love for us.
Wow.
And we wanna give your amazing love
and delight in us full attention.
So we stop what we're doing right now
and we put all of our attention on your delight in us.
Wow.
I just wanna encourage you wherever you are right now
is to stop what you're doing and put your attention
on the reality that you are the focus
of the Trinity's delight.
That right now, just as you are, just where you are,
just how you are, just who you are,
right now you are already the focus
of the Trinity's delight.
Their eyes are locked on you.
Their face is locked on you with delight.
Psalm 1611 says,
In the presence of the Lord is the fullness of joy.
And the word their presence can also mean face.
And I just love that.
In the face of the Lord is the fullness of joy.
And as he looks at you and as the Trinity
turn their attention towards you,
in the face of the Lord is the fullness of joy.
Wow.
I sort of encourage you to even just imagine
what it would feel like to let your face,
your eyes, your gaze connect with the eyes,
the gaze of the Trinity as they look at you
and in the face of the Lord is the fullness of joy,
the fullness of delight as they look at you and love.
Wow.
And why don't you just take a moment
just to soak in that right now.
Soak in the revelation that you are
the focus of the Trinity's love.
Whoa.
Wow.
Wow, wow, wow, wow.
Thank you, thank you, thank you, Lord.
Oh, Trinity, we give you all the glory and all the honor
for the wonder of who you are,
for the wonder of what you're doing in our lives.
We love you, we bless you,
and we honor you with our whole hearts,
with our whole being.
We honor you, we love you.
Whoa.
Amen.
Oh, beautiful.
Wow, how good is that?
Hope you guys are doing great out there.
If you're just joining us,
I just ask people just to give us a heads up
on how you're doing out of a scale of five.
Good questions coming out here.
We've got the first one here.
Jimmy's got a good question there.
So it is a Q&A tonight,
so definitely welcoming all the questions
and excited to jump into those.
But I just wanna hold off.
I don't wanna launch into that just right now.
I just, yeah, I just wanna hear from a few more people
as well, just wanna spend a little bit of time
connecting here tonight and just connecting in with you
and just wanna hear how people are doing
on like a five, one to five scale.
If you're a one, that means you're really low.
If you're a five, that means you're doing amazing.
And whether you're delayed
or whether you're watching it live,
just awesome to hear from you,
how you're doing about out of five.
Wow, Ruby is breaking all the parameters.
She's weighing in at a seven, which is great news.
I would just love to take some time as well.
If there's anyone who's not feeling so great,
I just like to take some time just to pray for you
and bless you tonight.
Hey, Ginny, great that you're a five as well.
That is excellent.
Hey, what I wanna do is for those that are feeling
like you're less than a five, you're less than,
especially anyone who's feeling like you're a three or less,
we wanna know what we can do to help lift you up
to go start stepping into a four or a five out of five.
So Lord, we just thank you for this family.
We thank you for everyone who's a part of it.
And we thank you that you know our hearts,
you know every part of our worlds,
you know us better than we know ourselves.
You know tomorrow, you know yesterday, you know today.
And Papa, I just wanna declare shalom
over everyone in this family,
over everyone who can hear.
my voice. Whether they are hearing this live, whether they're hearing this delayed, right
now in the name of Jesus, right now I declare shalom over you. I just command everything
in your life to begin to come into divine alignment in Jesus name. In every part of
your life I declare shalom. I declare shalom over your physical health. I declare shalom
over your mental health. I just see Renee has a sore neck with cramp. Right now I declare
shalom over that neck. Neck, I command you to be completely healed in Jesus name. And
I declare right now, I declare that this is heaven. I declare this is heaven. I declare
the realm of the throne of God opening up right now. I declare the realm of dominion.
I declare that the kingdom of God is at hand. The realm of His dominion, the realm of the
throne is at hand right here, right now. And I declare the power of the dominion of
the throne room of Yeshua Messiah. I declare the power of that throne room and that dominion
right now in Jesus name. Just to begin to flow into the life of every single person
here for breakthrough in Jesus name. For abundance in Jesus name. For the manifestation of shalom.
For the manifestation of heaven on earth for every person in their health, in their fitness,
in their physical body, in their emotions. And so right now Lord for Angela as well I
command life in Jesus name. I just declare shalom and Lord just total shalom and healing
over her body. For Renee's neck I command shalom and healing. For those that have spoken
or haven't had a chance to speak out. For those that are watching in delayed coverage
as well I declare shalom over your bodies in Jesus name. Total healing, total restoration,
total divine alignment in Jesus name. Even yesterday we had someone get healed watching
the delayed coverage and someone get healed watching the live. So I declare more healings,
more breakthroughs, more outbreaks in Jesus name. And I declare right now in the name
of Yeshua, I declare shalom over your emotions I declare shalom over your feelings, I declare
shalom over your faith. Shalom over your mind. Shalom over your relationships, shalom over
your family, shalom over your faith shalom over your fitness and health. Shalom over
your finances, shalom over everything in your world, shalom over your future. Shalom over
your dreams in Jesus name. So Papa I just release that in Jesus name and declare shalom
over ankles and healing for ankles in Jesus name. Every part of your body that needs healing
I declare it in the name of Yeshua Messiah. I declare healing and life over you in Jesus
name. Papa I just thank you as well for everyone's dreams. Right now I prophesy life over everyone's
wildest dreams. I just declare Lord shalom over people's dreams. I declare breakthrough
in the area of dreams. I declare breakthrough in the area of favor. I declare breakthrough
in the area of motivation in Jesus name. Right now Papa I just thank you for releasing motivation
like never before. Amen. Oh boom. Wow. Man I love you guys this is awesome being in the
presence is always phenomenal. Be great just to hear as well you know what's happening
for people. Yesterday we had two people get healed that shared with me that they got healed
when we were praying. One during the live and one afterwards. So check your body out.
Always worth checking your body out. Faith looks like something so why don't you check
that out. Or why don't you just give some feedback if you're seeing prayers answered
if you're seeing breakthrough happening in your life. I'd love to hear about that the
whole family we'd all love to hear about that. So just give a thumbs up if you'd like to
hear from people what God's doing in their life. I know I would definitely like to hear
what he's doing in your life the breakthroughs you're receiving the area where he's moving
and encouraging you and speaking to you. So yeah we would love to hear from you. It's
just a great way to share the journey share life together. So that's awesome. Let me jump
on here as well and see if I can find questions that we've got for tonight. If you do have
a question feel free to put it up here or you can also message the questions in to if
you want to you could message the questions into the Sonship message messenger group that
we have so you could do it there. I'm just going to have a look now on and look for what
questions we've got going. I can't see.
limit some for some reason. We had a question from Ginny. Now Ginny I might
need you at just the moment to repeat that. What was your question? Here we go
I might I know I might have found here we go looking at it here right so
questions let's see some questions and if you've got a question why don't you
pop it out there now Ginny why don't you try and send me your question again it
seems to have disappeared off my message board so let's have those questions come
up again and so that we can have a little crack at it's answering some of
those all right okay this is the moment and Ginny if you'd like me to help out
with that question I'm gonna need you to send it again because for some reason I
can't access it so or you can send the questions in via our via our messenger
group and if no one here we go why did Solomon why did God allow Solomon to
live out his days in splendor unpunished even though he was worshipping
detestable gods 1 Kings 11 1 says his descendants would be punished for his
sin oh that's a good question thanks Jan for copying that I appreciate that for
some reason I couldn't find it but that's excellent why did God allow
Solomon to live out his days in splendor unpunished even though he was worshipping
detestable gods yeah that's a that's a good question I mean it started out
obviously for Solomon he started out doing amazing didn't he and he started
out doing really really well but then as things as things journeyed along it
actually got worse and worse so that's an interesting that's an interesting
question as well why didn't God actually kind of similar I think by memory we
touched on a similar question like that last week in the Q&A we were talking
about mercy and judgment one of the things that people think is that
sometimes sometimes people get away with with their sin but the reality is is
that no one gets away with sin you know sin sin has its own inbuilt consequences
you know there's principles of God and sin or so no one first of all no one
gets away with sin so so Solomon didn't get away with his sin you know so yes I
do hear you that God didn't God didn't bring judgments down on them there was a
measure of mercy and mercy remember last week we talked about this we talked
about the difference between grace and mercy so grace is when you get what you
don't deserve so for us there's so much that we just received by grace that we
did nothing for we didn't earn it it's unconditionally given it's unwarranted
it's just completely unconditional and we get it absolutely for free so there's
some good things that we get by grace so by grace we get we're loved by grace
there's nothing we love is totally by grace we're totally unconditionally
loved acceptance is totally by grace there's nothing that we do to get
acceptance just God just loves us like that our identity is completely by grace
and unconditional there's nothing that we did to earn our identity that was
given before the foundation of the world you know we were in him before the
foundation of the world as well so our inclusion intimacy is by grace well so
many things our inheritance is by grace so there's all these things ah so Renee
that's an interesting question as well but I'm I'm wanting to keep the
questions that we have specifically focused on the training that we're doing
so so I will prioritize questions that are on point with the topics the content
they're already covering so there's so much that we get by grace and then
there's so much that we get you know like there's the mercy dynamic as well
mercy is not getting what we do deserve so yeah in one sense Solomon probably
deserved you know like there was actually probably he deserved a little
bit more you know you could say in some sense he was doing a lot of
Damage to you know and especially in his later days when he was had all these foreign wives and he's worshiping all their gods
and he's building all these
Nasty shrines and all these things he's you know
He's really setting the kingdom up really poorly at the end of his life, but Monica's right there
She's just putting on a um put a comment there as well with Solomon riding on his inheritance from David because God made
Because David made good trades well
Yes to
Measure he was wasn't he because how often does God say this for the sake of my servant David?
I will not do this all for the sake of my servant David, so God really um you know the impact that David had
In the level of relationship the level of favor that he built up
That with the father the level of inheritance that he had with the father
It was a lot of people that got a lot of grace based on the inheritance that David had really built up and Solomon got that
too
Solomon was promised the throne
From before as you know from from early on
So yeah, he got a lot. He did get a lot of grace
But what I want to just focus on this one thing is that we don't actually we never get away with sin
Even if you for example don't get the full
Ramifications right we know the wages of sin is death and sometimes you might not get the full ramification of sin
But you need you never get away clean
you never get away free when it comes to sin because sin has a measure of death and a measure of its own consequence within
it because
One thing for example, you know I've talked about this paradox of
Before about sin not separating us from God, but sin also separating us from God so
geographically
Sin sin doesn't separate us from God, you know
It's not a geographical separation that takes place
But what sin will always do is sin will always blind our eyes spiritually sin will always harden our heart
spiritually and deafen our ears spiritually, so
We won't be able to participate in the divine life though the way that we could
Now David was amazing. You know, David. It's a couple of things that were
So just sunny just your question there sunny that you're touching on now, it doesn't really fit
There's not gonna be enough people. Oh, hang on. Oh
Sorry, my my question. Sorry my apology sunny. I
just see that
There's two ways that you could read that and if I'm reading that right that is a good question and I'll touch on that
I'll touch on that shortly. That's a good question. We'll talk about engaging your
mountain
There's different ways that people would read that but we'll talk about that sunny. That's really good
Let's finish off here with this question on sin though and Solomon really good. So
With with sin sin is going to
Minimize your capacity to participate in the divine life whether you receive the full ramifications of that sin
whether God gives you mercy and you don't actually experience the full measure of the
Consequences of what that sin could actually entail God might protect you from that but there's always a level of
Consequence so that consequence for us, right?
Most people don't realize that they're actually experiencing the consequences of sin because they don't realize how good life is supposed to be
If you actually look around even in the church, you know, most people wouldn't in church wouldn't even realize that they're actually
experiencing massive consequences for sin
Because that their normal is so so low so tragic there's so few people living in the
There's so few people living in the fullness of the divine dance that that people don't even realize that they're
Not there because the standard is so low the standard is so low even with you know
Most most pastors and most churches the standard is so low
So here's what I'm trying to say is what we were created for us. We were created for every moment of
every day to
completely fully
Seamlessly
perpetually
Participate in the fullness of the divine life. That means that at every single moment of every day
We we have been invited in to dance with the Trinity and to participate in their life to share the divine life to such
perfection and such seamless union that our
emotional state of being never once
Changes from anything less than the divine state of being that's what our normal is supposed to be
But the standard is so low and so far from what we were designed to participate in to live in
that people don't even realize that they're actually experiencing the
consequences of sin because they don't know they don't realize what they could
be having they don't realize what they were actually designed for and so they're
like so people are just unaware most of the time they're actually suffering the
consequences of sin but but when you start actually tapping into the divine
life you start becoming aware of what is actually available for you to walk in
what normal life as a Christian is supposed to look like and Jesus defined
what normal is supposed to look like so anything less than Jesus is substandard
in the Christian life and when you when we have sin in our life it robs us of it
robs us of the standard so that could should show us a couple of things about
normal life for most Christians is that most Christians have got a lot of sin
going on there is a ton of sin going on for most Christians and if you can
remember last week when we looked at this or previous sessions we've looked
at this sin sin the Greek word yeah the word sin it means to miss the mark so
we've got in Romans 3 23 all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God now
that's a big deal all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God so the
word sin there it means to miss the mark means to miss the mark like an arrow
it's an archery turn poof it means to miss the mark so that you don't actually
hit the mark so we have to understand then what what is the mark the mark is
the glory or the Greek word for glory is doxa and John 17 22 Jesus said I have
given them he's speaking about you and me right now he's speaking about me so
he says I have given them past tense it's an identity statement I have given
them past tense the same glory that the Father gave me okay boom so Jesus is
just there basically he's saying you're exclusively defined by the Trinity the
exact same doxa and the word doxa it means the substance the value the
definition or you know what a thing is comprised of so it's really speaking
it's like an identity statement Jesus saying I've given you the same identity
that the Father gave me that you may be one as we are one and what that means is
basically is if you don't understand your identity if you're falsely defined
if you're living falsely defined then you won't be able to participate in the
seamless union that you were created to experience the seamless union that you
are supposed to experience in the divine dance as your perpetual moment-by-moment
state of being living seamlessly one with the Trinity as your default setting
as your normal wake up in the morning experience the divine life wake up in
the morning dancing with the Trinity wake up in the morning seamlessly one
wake up in the morning and your emotions are the exact reflection your emotions
echo the emotions of the Trinity your feelings echo the emotions of the
Trinity so what I want to say about this so all of sin and fallen short of the
glory of God so what does it mean to send them to sin simply means to live
falsely defined to live outside of the definition of your identity and the true
definition of your identity is that you're exclusively defined by the
Trinity it's the doxa of the Trinity that defines you it's the doxa of the
Trinity that defines you so when you discover that you're exclusively defined
by the Trinity when you do that hard work that changes your conscious
subconscious and unconscious beliefs about who you are and you come into
alignment which is Shalom you come into alignment which is sozo the process of
salvation you come into alignment with the truth that you're exclusively
defined by the Trinity and you become fully persuaded of that truth
consciously subconsciously unconsciously every part of you becomes fully
persuaded of who you are that you're the exclusively exclusively defined by the
Trinity no life experiences have any authority to falsely define you boom you
start living out of that place out of the glory of God then boom you know
you're living your identity you're not living in sin to live in sin is to live
outside of your identity and your identity is your exclusively defined by
the doxa of the Trinity I'm saying this Jenny it's a long answer but I'm saying
this because what I'm hoping you're seeing is that no one gets away no one
gets away with sinning no one gets a free pass okay you can sin and then
there's no consequences no one gets that no one at all gets a no one gets away
without any consequences for sinning you might think oh man that guy got away
with it no no no no one no one gets away with it what we're missing when we think
people are getting away with sin is we're missing what they could be having
we're missing the the big picture of what we were created for in the first
place and what we were created for is
To experience seamless union with the Trinity every moment of every day.
We're created to experience heaven on earth in every moment, every day, without ceasing.
We're created for experiencing the fullness of the atmosphere of heaven,
the fullness of perfect love, the fullness of the life of the Trinity every moment of every day.
So let's ask ourselves this question then.
Did Solomon get to live in that?
No. Solomon didn't get to live on that.
So did Solomon get away with his sin? No, he didn't.
Where sin costs us ultimately, where it costs us is sin costs us our birthright.
And our birthright is the divine dance.
Yes. So yeah, you're right. You're right, Ginny.
There it comes in that Solomon's sin, you know, like there's a greater consequence coming on further generations.
So in one sense, yes, he did.
He did receive mercy because of the favor and the inheritance that David had built up with the Lord.
So in one sense, yes, he did receive mercy.
But on another sense, did he get away with a sin?
No, he didn't get away with a sin.
Did what Solomon, did the consequences of Solomon's sin end up impacting future generations negatively?
Absolutely, yes.
If you look, you know, through the whole, you know, through the whole story of the kings,
it was generation after generation that actually suffered the consequences of the idols that Solomon built.
And I don't think it was until Josiah was raised up,
that it was Josiah that actually went through and actually smashed the idols that Solomon had built all those generations before.
Which is like, man, they had been around for so long.
But Josiah eventually was raised up by God to be someone who would go and destroy that.
So did Solomon get away with sin?
No, no one ever gets away with sin.
Did Solomon get a whole swag load of mercy and favor because of David?
Yeah, absolutely.
Did future generations suffer the consequence of Solomon's sin?
Yes, absolutely.
Do future generations still suffer the consequences of our sin?
Yeah, absolutely.
One way, one way that you will actually impact the future generations in your, like, in your biological line is in your bloodlines.
Yeah, so this is interesting as well.
Jan, who's making a comment here about how sin impacts to the third and fourth generation.
It does so on a number of different ways.
And there's actually a scientific study now about epigenetics.
And so what they've discovered is epigenomes or epigenetics, it doesn't impact your actual DNA.
But what it does is it impacts the way that your DNA can actually express itself.
So say you might have great DNA, but if, say, your parents, or say, for example, I decided that I was just going to be a couch potato and I sat on my butt, I smoked huge amounts of cigarettes, I ended up really addicted, I ended up living really lazy, I never did any fitness, I had food addictions, and I had all these issues.
What that would actually do is that would actually impact physically, it would physically impact my epigenetics.
And so there's epigenetics, they dictate how your actual genes are going to be expressed.
So it actually set, it would actually set up my children to, it would set their genetics up so that my children's genetics would be prone.