Hey, everyone, how's it going?
Yeah, Amy back.
Hey everybody.
All right, look, we are fresh off of learning about breakthrough right.
So okay who broke through something this past week.
Y'all. Okay, I've, I've never preached a sermon, Marian hats off to you.
And for those who have but my son in law is the pastor of our little satellite church that we go to and we're having a from the Pew series for three weeks, and he asked if I would speak about love.
And, you know, just get something from God and do a 15 to 20 minute sermon.
And we really are going a lot this summer, and it was the one Sunday that he wanted me to go on was the one Sunday we were going to be in town.
He's asked me to pray about it and you know I didn't have to pray very long I knew that that I needed to be stretched, because real people is different from a camera.
And so, all week long, I mean like there were so many things that were coming at me and coming off of last Tuesday, which was just so powerful, which I hated to miss it, but we were traveling.
But anyway, but I was going around confessing about how nervous I was about Sunday.
And things just kept getting delayed I kind of gave an outline that I had to do for slides, but actually having something you know that I could keep within 1520 minutes, you know, I knew I had to have something outline or something written.
And so, when I sat down, the Lord, I said, Lord, I, you know, I can't get up there and say whatever I'm going to say without you, you know, like, apart from you, I can do nothing.
And it was like he just like took me by the shoulder and in the sweetest most kindest way, truly, I did not feel rebuked.
But he said he told me that the way I had looked at that scripture that there was a hidden negative connotation for me toward me as though apart from him. I can do nothing that like I'm, I'm always trying to pull apart from him.
And he said, there's some unbelief there that I want to take out from that.
And I was like, Okay, I see that and he you know he began to speak to me who I was and what was.
And then he said, how about you and about that nervous stuff that you've been confessing.
He said,
that is, that is not what I don't give you nervousness. So I'll give you excitement.
And, you know, anticipation and joy.
And he just basically said, Give me that.
And so I did, and he said, Okay, now you believe.
And you believe everything that you're prepared to say now speak.
And I went to that scripture that says I believe. And now I speak.
And went on to say, I mean like it was like a big thing it was a big breakthrough for me because he said I've prepared you for all these years to speak my love, and to speak it with authority, and I'm going to go up there with you.
And I'm going to be cheering you on and whatever comes out of your mouth is going to be pleasing to me, and I'm going to be excited.
And the night, night after we had gotten home, or the day after my, my granddaughters came over a trimmed one of their hair and they wanted to perform something that they're going to be doing at a talent show on our family vacation next week at
the beach.
And it's a, they had made up the words with their mama, but it's they replaced the words to we don't talk about Bruno was anybody know what I'm talking about we don't talk about, you know, that's a big movie, you know, with the kids in Kanto.
Anyway, so they sat there and my husband and I were watching them with just these big smiles, and they, you know, they're like, oh my gosh, I can't believe I'm going to be doing this.
weren't getting all the words right, but it was just like,
there was so much delight. And the Lord said, that's, that's
how I'm going to be. It's good. But y'all, that's how he is with
us. It was huge. And I went up and I was excited. I had a white
dress on and there were like yellow stains by the end of it
was in the air conditioner, air conditioner wasn't working. Oh
my God. So, but I just had joy and I'm just went up and Holy
Spirit just gave me authority. I mean, he's like, I've given you
this authority now go up and speak, you know, like, believe
and speak.
That's awesome.
That is so powerful, Amy. That just ministered to me so much
hearing your testimony. So that was that the first time you
said you've never preached before?
Well, I've spoken, but I've never preached. You know, I've
been like, I was preaching. We each had our 15 to 20 minutes
and both of us knew that we could be long winded and he and
I looked at each other. I was like, they, they didn't know
what they were doing, putting you and I on the same Sunday,
you know, but anyway, it was fun. It was fun.
We're going to talk a little bit about that later today about
um, the light and being the beloved. So I love that you set
us up.
He told me that you, you're my beloved daughter. Get up there
and speak. So anyway,
so good. Thanks for sharing that. And I see we got a few
people more joined Hillary and we got Karina's on here.
So good to see you ladies. Okay, so the question was that Tamara
had posed was let's talk about what breakthroughs happened this
week. Cause that is what we've been focusing on as a community.
So who wants to share? Has there been, and Amy just shared that
powerful story. What breakthrough has been happening? Is it
internally, externally mindset shifts?
Well, I actually have one go for it, girl. And then you go first
and then we'll go to Susan.
So externally, it's an external situation that still kind of
weighs on me altogether, which is my dad. That's in the nursing
home. Currently. I went to see him on Sunday and it's not, he
doesn't really talk much. He just kind of just looks, you
know, and so, but I'm believing that he will, you know, so I
just talk to him regularly when I go, I don't talk, I talk to
him just like I'm talking to you guys. And so why he, he only
said two words, he coughed and he said, excuse me. And I said,
it's like, dad, you talked. He never talks. So I just, and I
just said more Lord, I just went right into prayer mode. And I
never did. I just said more Lord. And so just had to share
that. It just, it gave, I was like, Lord, this is an awesome
birthday gift. You know, it was just awesome. Cause I haven't
heard him speak in a very long time. And so he just coughed and
he said, excuse me. And I was like, dad, you just talk.
Praise God. I mean, that is such an invitation for any of us
right now who are believing on behalf of someone we love. I
love Tamara, what you said about, I just talk. Cause I'm
believing that he's going to talk back. So I, you relate to
him in belief, not through the lens of unbelief or even the
lens of the current, what the current circumstance look like.
That's amazing. So for any of us right now that are believing
for people, whether it's healing, wholeness, salvation,
identity, restored mindsets, renewed walk and relate in
belief towards them. And we believe that even more that's
going to happen for your dad, more, more, more. Amen. Hey,
Susie, let's talk about breakthrough.
Well, um, I posted, um, yeah, on the Facebook a couple weeks ago
or last week about my origin story on TikTok went up to 915
people. And now it's like 1100. And amazingly, I've been
sidetracked with the video. So I haven't been posted on TikTok.
So I did one other thanking God. One other thanking God TikTok
that got like 450 views. I'm amazed. But the origin story
kept growing. It was like stalled for a while and then it
kept growing. So I'm really kind of curious about what that is.
But thank you, Lord for that. So my other breakthrough is I have
started the website. Thank you, Bruce. And I've spent a lot of
time
really getting it that if I
relying on the Holy Spirit for this, I'm going to be nuts. And
you know that all of that stuff that we already know, and the
Lord just keep saying, you know what to do, Amy, bless you, you
know what to do. You do it for me. Don't do it thinking of how
I would say this to other people, but do it in me. So I
think that you know, it's exactly what you said last week.
But that that deep, it's got it's got to be in me. Oh, and I
was I was realizing listening to someone who tends to be
challenging. And I have been thinking, okay, Lord Jesus, you
know, you be there for them. How do you want to do this? You be
for them. And it was like this morning, it just hit me. Oh, no,
you be you in me, you, you know, whatever it is, in me and get
that filled up. And then out of the heart, you know, mouth
speaks out of the fullness of the heart, wanting to have, you
know, making choices with kind of like a result in view versus,
okay, Lord, you're my Lord, you know, who do you want to be for
me? So, yeah, thank you. Thank you for the breakthroughs.
I love it. Identity being realized and experienced every
single day. That's amazing.
Hey, hey, how's it going? Thanks for sharing your word with us.
Oh, man, you guys, it's like my way of having a conversation
with you while you're talking. Because I had no zoom like or
Facebook notes. So and I still have to go back and find the
recording that was just like fire. So thank you for what you
all do. Um, so, um, first, I just want to say to, um, to
Tamara and Karina, like, I get it, we're praying the same
thing for my dad. They, they've taken him off hospice, which is
a good thing on the one hand, except that now my mom doesn't
have the help. So like, we were rotating. And now we've moved
out to the beach. But I was saying to my sisters, like, we
know what it looks like to envision the need for prayer.
Have we practiced what it looks like to envision the answer to
prayer. And so we were like, like, hey, that's like, was it
Rhoda, who answers the door? There's Peter and
no, he's in.
So, um, anyway, I'm still like, I don't know if it's because of
all the moving or whatever. But I'm still going through this
kind of season of hiding. And, and but I have an exam this
week in, in heartseek. So I'm doing a whole lot of other
things in this hiding season. But one thing like even just
hearing you guys, and each time I hear, it's just what the Lord
said, if you're not opening your mouth with the message I gave
you, people are not hearing it. And so I'm just exposing myself
here for like, I know that there's something getting ready
to erupt. And I'm not yet sure how it looks again, since I've
kind of stopped a year ago, what, you know, so I still show
up in my membership. But in terms of birthing new and
reaching new, I have not been doing that. So just putting that
out there, because I would love your prayers for that. Just that
trans becoming that person that's headed into that next
season, envisioning the answer to prayer. It's the perfect
timing. It's perfect timing for you to be back. And this is for
everyone, because this is what Bruce and I have been feeling
this. And I want you to talk about a little bit first. Okay,
let's I'm going to do you mind if I just do a quick prayer for
us as we enter in? We're in it. We're in it. I don't want to
lose. So Father, thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
We come today, rejoicing, full of thanksgiving, knowing that
it's your fullness. That is our starting point. We start from a
place of fullness. Jesus, thank you, that because of what you've
done, we have access to this fullness. And Holy Spirit, we
thank you that you are leading us and guiding us in how full
this fullness really is, and getting to experience that. So
thank you. In Jesus name, we pray all these things. Amen.
Yeah, that's good. So we believe that and I shared this with a
little bit last week that what the Lord has been walking
through us personally, we believe is something that he is
inviting our whole community into. We are all pioneers, we
are all forerunners. And we are doing that for the people that I
this is like the call of a leader is we kind of go the way so we can show the way we see this in
scripture again and again with different leaders they break through things and then lead people
through that breakthrough someone pointed out to me last year that you know moses lived in the
wilderness before he brought people through the wilderness like that that that period of his life
where he went and actually lived in the wilderness was preparing him to then lead people through the
wilderness and so i think i believe that that's for all of us it's not just bruce and i sitting
up here but we're all doing this for the people that we are leading and will be leading and so
that's why we've we've had to come out of this we've had to we've realized that strategies and
tactics are helpful but useless if we are not believing we are who god says we are because they
do not do knowing what to do does not do well up against resistance if we are not confident in who
we are to go do those things and and comes down to it's not when we talk about obstacles and
breakthrough and how to be continue to move and grow grow your channel limit despite whatever
season you're in kind of moving past some of those those uh roadblocks or obstacles typically what
we've seen and it doesn't really matter um kind of at what level you're in and we've been a part
of a lot of different kind of masterminds and coaching the thing it's not like when you spend
a bunch more money or you're with this other group like they all of a sudden reveal these other
tactics that no one ever knew about like that's kind of a misconception it's it's all about mindset
stuff and i've like we've talked with people that have done very very well who are also feeling some
of the same stuff we felt and they're in a totally different level than we are and the
things that are holding them back is not the tactics it's like do they still believe that
the lord told them to do this do they still feel believe they have something valuable to say like
a lot of what we've seen with people with launching their own channels and launching
and stepping into the their kind of online ministry that they feel the lord's called them to
are some of these more like root deep down kind of inner world things that we have to get right
because the rest of it will have yes sometimes there's there's you know a place for like just
learning the tech and all that i get that and we're not going to stop doing that but i think
there's some really important things that if we are so motivated and we truly believe that what
the lord has given us is precious and like i said we he's brought us into the wilderness that we
learn something and now we're going to bring a lot of people through into that area of breakthrough
that you feel you've been that you've got breakthrough in um that's something if we
truly believe that like we'll go figure out the tech like we'll figure the thing out just to get
the message out right and we've really been wrestling with like what does what does it
actually look like to be a kingdom messenger verse being just a christian content creator
right because you guys are not newsflash like you're not christian content creators and you're
not in christian influencers right that's not what we're about here um you're kingdom messengers with
influence exactly influence yeah and there's a very big difference there because we're growing
something that's actually helping disciple people first just growing influence like you say like a
christian influence so very very different and i think that's what we're trying to and i think
like we're just getting started like with with this like i know some of you guys have been with
us for over almost coming up on two years like this is just just the beginning like we're not
we're not you know oh we did this we helped a few hundred people and like hopefully they feel
encouraged like we feel like we're just getting started in it and i feel like this is something
we'll be doing for the next decade right like we're just going to continue to help grow people
and grow this online ministry and so that's what we're kind of we're feeling it for kingdom
messengers but at the same time like the way that we have coached and and taught and how we've
connected with our online our who online with this we're wanting to also kind of show you guys
how we're doing that like how are we what are the mindset things that we're having to overcome
what are the things that are holding us back and that's where we kind of started to share
last week was around this idea of breakthrough and and and all that stuff yeah absolutely
so that is that is a um an a glory to glory experience and what we can sometimes confuse it
to be is if we get to a place like say we hit our 10 000 or we whatever our goal is in our mind right
now say we hit that and then we've hit resistance again there's a temptation to believe oh my gosh
i didn't get it the first time or god is trying to teach me something i've done something wrong
we begin to like like what amy said we begin to negatively identify with whatever the whatever
the negative could be that is what we tend to kind of embrace right like oh the way i think about
myself the way i think about my ministry the way i think about how i'm doing things i i believe
that at points of resistance and they kind of come
with each point of growth and each point of acceleration
is because there is a deeper,
there is something deeper to experience
as we become more like Him,
as we are being made into the image of Christ.
And that is, the Bible says that in 2 Corinthians,
we're going from glory to glory in that.
So it doesn't mean that something's wrong
if you're facing resistance,
or if you're in a season that feels like,
I don't even know if I want to do this anymore,
or what am I even doing?
This is an opportunity to become more like Christ.
This is an opportunity to partner with the Lord
like never before, and go deeper in our walk,
in our intimacy, in our relationship with Him.
And, you know, the Lord's been bringing me
to Jesus in the wilderness.
I know you guys have probably heard a thousand sermons
on Jesus in the wilderness,
which I'm sure they were all good,
but don't become so familiar with a story
that we miss what maybe what the Holy Spirit has for us
in that today.
And so, cause I was, I was like, okay, yeah, yeah,
I know the story, I know the story,
but the Lord's like, no, I want you to like,
go back to that story.
There's something there for you today.
So I'm not going to read the whole thing,
but there is something that stuck out to me
from the very get-go,
because the order in which this happens,
Jesus is baptized by John the Baptist.
The father speaks over Jesus and said,
this is my beloved son.
This is my beloved son.
Like an identity is like for all, for it is,
if there was any question about who Jesus is,
the father makes it known in that moment.
This is my beloved son.
And then it says, I'm going to actually read from,
I know that it's also found in Matthew.
I think it's Matthew four,
but I'm reading from Luke four today.
It says Jesus full of the Holy Spirit.
Okay, so full of the Holy Spirit, not empty,
not halfway full, not depleted,
full of the Holy Spirit left the Jordan
and was led by the Spirit into the wilderness.
So his bad behavior didn't put him
into the wilderness spot.
His lack of, he lacked nothing.
He was full of the Holy Spirit.
The father said, this is my beloved son.
He had the identity.
He had everything he needed.
And he, and the Spirit led him into the wilderness, okay?
And there we know, if we know the story,
that he was tempted by the devil.
And the devil was tempting him on the basis of his identity
and the basis of the word.
There's nothing new under the sun.
The devil is not original, okay?
The same thing that he went after in the garden,
the same thing that he went after with the Israelites
being led out of slavery,
is the same thing he's coming back to Jesus with,
identity and God's word.
Did God really say, and are you who he says you are?
Like, those are the, that's the bottom line.
And as we know, Jesus came,
Jesus resisted the temptation with the word,
and the devil left him alone.
And then he began in his ministry.
That's kind of the shorter version of the story.
But what I want us to, what the Holy Spirit revealed for me,
because like, I want to be gut level honest with you guys.
And I said it last week, like, you don't have to be,
that being on the mountaintop of life,
does not, is not what qualifies you
to preach and teach the truth.
The truth is what qualifies you
to teach and preach the truth.
And the truth is who you are in Christ.
So like, we are not coming from the mountaintop right now.
This is something we are,
we are constantly coming up at a resistance.
We are constantly having our identity questioned.
And we are constantly in a place where I feel like
the enemy is wanting to poke holes at, did God really say?
That's where, that's where we are at personally.
Now, I love what Francois Du Toit says.
He authored the Mirror Bible.
And he says, the real enemy is not the devil,
it's the unrenewed mind.
Because the devil has been dealt with in Christ.
Like Jesus overcame the devil,
we don't have to overcome the devil.
We are in Christ.
And so his victory, his overcoming, is where we,
is our place.
Like there's no, there's no need to overcome the devil.
I would like to add that the enemy
is an unrealized identity.
The enemy now, for those of us who are in Christ,
is unbelief.
That is the enemy.
It's our own unbelief.
Because nothing else can keep us
from experiencing, living the truth,
except if we don't believe it.
So the authority now rests in us of, did God,
do we choose to believe the truth or do we choose to deny it?
choose to believe that this is what God said,
and do we choose to believe what he said about us is true?
And so I think that's a really important point.
And so what was revealed to me at a deeper level,
And I think that's a really important point.
like never before when I was reading through this,
is I realized Jesus held on to his,
I don't even know if this was a real word,
belovedness in the wilderness.
That is what he held on to.
He was not going to let that go.
The father said he was the beloved son,
and Jesus believed him.
And you know what?
We are beloved.
Jesus prayed this.
We have so, and the gospel is so rich,
and then of course in Paul's writings as well,
but in the gospel, Jesus spoke to this time and time again.
I think about in John specifically,
like John 14 and John 15 and John 16,
when Jesus was talking to his disciples,
and he was praying on behalf of not just his disciples,
but all who would believe, that's us, right?
That's his disciples today,
and that they would know that we are one,
and that the father, that it would be revealed to us
that just as the father loves Jesus, he loves us.
Like all of these things are confirmed
in the words that Jesus spoke to us,
and the words that Jesus spoke to the father
in praying for us, and then throughout the new covenant,
the new testament, we see time and time again,
it's speaking to two things.
God does not lie.
Like Paul will go back into the Old Testament prophets
and say, see, it's true.
See, it's true.
Jesus did this too, just as it is written,
just as it is written.
Jesus went back to Isaiah.
It's being fulfilled.
All of those things are speaking to the fact
that God does not lie.
What he says is true.
It is trustworthy.
It is worthy of our trust, and what he says about us,
because if all he says is true is true,
that means what he says about us is true as well.
And Jesus held on to his belovedness,
and I feel like the Lord has Bruce and I at a place
where he's like, are you going to hang on
to your belovedness?
And I wanna invite all of our community
into that question and conversation with God as well.
Will we hold on to our belovedness?
I know I've spoken before about Philippians 1, 6,
because that's so, you know, that verse,
I just read it with new eyes when it talks,
when Paul's writing to Philippians,
and he says, I'm confident that the work he is doing in you
will be brought to completeness.
And guys, for years, I read that as like the work
being done through you.
Like, oh yeah, yeah, like the work of my hands,
or the ministry, or the calling, or the purpose,
but Paul was speaking about the work being done in us.
He's speaking about the primary purpose of God,
which is to make us in his image and likeness.
And we see that that was let go of by Adam and Eve
in the garden.
We see again that it was let go of by the Israelites
in the wilderness.
They let go of the belief that they were image bearers
and they verbalized, we are grasshoppers.
Like, make no mistake.
And they talked an entire generation out of their destiny.
Yeah, that's good.
And their destiny, guys, let me just be so bold to say,
their destiny was not a work being done by their hands.
Their destiny was to be image bearers.
Their destiny was to walk into the promised land
as image bearers of God.
But they just focused on the work of it all.
Yeah.
And then they let that be the thing
that kept them from entering into the promised land.
So I thought, this is so much work.
And oh, by the way,
it's not work that we're gonna be able to accomplish
because we're grasshoppers.
That's good, that's really good.
There's some really powerful things there.
So I don't know, there's like,
if you guys wanna jump in with comments,
I don't see Hillary's got her hand raised.
Yeah, I want this to be more,
because again, like I said,
this is kind of the engine room
of things that we're gonna be sharing
to the broader community.
So I do want feedback.
So go ahead, Hillary.
And then I see Marcello's hand as well.
This is so powerful.
So in my studying for my upcoming exam,
I learned that,
so the same,
so agape, of course, is God's love, right?
Unconditional love, that great value that he gave to us
that made him give his son,
that made him give us life and everything else.
Well, that word is also translated value.
And because people don't understand love, right?
But they understand value.
you. And people don't have anger problems. They have a
devaluation problem. So at the at the root of anger is hurt at
the root of hurt is trauma at the root of every trauma is
someplace a person was devalued. So if we believe lies about who
the father is, and fatherhood, we believe lies about ourselves
and we're completely vulnerable to being devalued. And I just
think what you're saying and what you're tapping into this
issue of belovedness is at the root of every person we're being
sent into with a message because what's the what's the primary
message right to restore Jesus restoring the child to the
father, and the kingdom to the child and through the child,
right. So and the kingdom comes from his presence. So we're for
messengers of that kingdom, we need that connection to the
father that can only come through understanding our value.
And so this whole issue of like, for God so valued the world that
he sent his only begotten Son. And so it's just that, you know,
this, this understanding that if we if we know that what we're
talking to, and the walls that are up, are just someplace a
person has been devalued, whether they know how to identify it or
not. And just realizing and asking the questions that will
help a person come to that place, where maybe they can get
healed, because they've been heard, right? Love is patient,
patients listens, patients prefers patients values. And
once we value someone else, we don't have to think about being
kind to them, or not taking account of a suffered wrong or
all that stuff. So I just think that what you're tapping into
with Jesus holding on to his belovedness is exactly what we
are after.
Amen. That's awesome. That's good. Hey, Marcella.
Hey, I had to get that out. Because I'm so full. This is so
it's just so amazing. I can only speak for myself, personally. So
Pedro had a powerful message on yesterday that kind of led me
along this road. So meeting you guys a year ago. You know, it's
like, it's like, I was trying to take my notes, I wouldn't talk
all randomly. But it's like all of the pieces that were broken.
I mean, I just, you know, just I had to talk into my recorder
yesterday, because it was so much and he was on the same,
same topic, but so much transformation, what I see that
is happening in me and what has been this fight. And I now see
that it's not. It's not the people, the enemy wants me to
focus on the people and the internal fights, but it's also
that fight from the people is what is happening inside of me
as well from old religious mindsets from old religious
beliefs, behaviors, things that have shamed me have just kind of
held me in a box. And it's taken all I'm 55 guys and it's taken
me all this time. Um, I one of the things I said yesterday was
God, you just extended your hand to me. This is the vision that I
had. I was in darkness, and he just extended his hand. And I
put my hand in his and I didn't know where I was going. And he
led me out of the darkness out of the wilderness with no
direction. And all the while he's telling me, this is who you
are. This is who you are reminding me. So oftentimes when
I would show up here and I do reference being a part of
kingdom messengers, it is here that I have found my voice. It
is here that I'm learning about about my identity. When God gave
me finding me, I did not understand fully what that meant.
You know, this whole thing of rebuilding my life, but it's the
transformation that is taking place as I yield in obedience.
Like you said, it's not preaching from the mountaintop.
What he was what he shared with me was share the process of you
becoming now I didn't have the whole thing of how you guys
articulated like becoming, you know, in his I knew the
scripture becoming more of who he has created me to be in his
image and what he's created me to be. But I wrote just a second
ago, as you
speaking Lindsay about holding on how Jesus held on to his
belovedness. And I wrote, I am one with the Father, you know,
because you know, I, I don't have my natural father and
mother physically. And God spoken to me and said that he
was my father. And so I said, the more I am one with my
father, the more I identify with him, and the more I see me.
For the first time. So I am. I am Yeah, I am shedding, I am
loosening, I'm being released, I am, I feel freedom, I feel
restoration, I feel healing. And, and, and I'm trying to now
articulate it and put it out so other people too can be redeemed
because the language that we share here, why this is such a
sacred space is because when I leave here, when I leave my
family, my family room, coaches here, when I leave the room, I
go then out amongst people who I feel should know me, but don't
even recognize me. And that is where the the worrying seems to
come because you want to shine brightly and share. But it's
just like, we don't know who you are. Let's dial that down. We
don't what are you talking about? Like they the language.
So I'm gonna post a quote, because I can't requote it, but
I get I get these daily messages. And so it was talking
about when you're when you're spiritually evolved, and other
people don't get it. It talked about don't worry, like it says
keep going, because they'll they'll come into it or
something like that. And I got to find it and put it in. But
it just all of this all this week. It's just resonating. And
it's just so powerful, the transformation and what is
happening. And I love that we are kingdom messengers, sharing
a message. And we have influence. So awesome. There
you go. Good.
That's really good, Marcella. Can I just buy a quick show of
hands? And you if you guys feel safe, to be honest? Are any of
you feeling what Marcella is feeling as far as like not
feeling known or seen by the people that you're doing life
with the people around you? It's okay if you're not feeling that
way. But okay, I'm saying that way. Yeah. Us too. This is this
is part of our suffering that we share with Christ. It's good.
Because people didn't recognize him either. Yeah. Yeah. Denise,
particularly family members. Yeah, particularly family
members, particularly the people that should have, like the Jews
that should have recognized him from day one. Super easy should
have been easy to recognize. They had they had hundreds of
years of prophecies, prophesying him. Yeah. And they didn't
recognize him. Like, I mean, the point on that, like just the
comics and we'll hear from me. But like, we, we both came from
Christian families, like we're both like pastors, kids. And I
would say like, maybe 20% of our family on either side, like,
even knows what we're doing with the kingdom messengers, like even
as an idea, like what this is, and they're all in ministry, and
they're serving. And then we're like, try to explain it to them.
And they're like, Oh, are you guys still doing that? Like
social media thing with churches and stuff? And we're like, yeah.
No. Anyway, the point is, just to let you know, you're not
you're not alone. And this is a perfect opportunity to identify
with Christ and hold on to your belovedness. Go ahead, Denise.
Well, this is so exciting, you guys, because I just did my last
podcast on this aligning with true identity. And so what
you're saying, Lindsay, is like exactly what God told me. But
anyway, this is what I discovered in my study. It was
so exciting. I'm gonna do part two this week. But it's so
amazing. Like not like you said, in the wilderness, you are my
beloved son, and because he knew his identity, he's knew his
mission, right? And then in the temptation, if you are is the
the Son of God was two of the temptations of the three. So the
enemies come in against his identity. But here's what I
didn't realize is that when he right before he was crucified,
he was led up into a mountain, and he was transfigured. And
that's when God said, again, this is my beloved son, who I'm
well pleased. So that identity, the first one prepared him for
the wilderness, the second one prepared him for the
crucifixion, we'll get this. So he's up on the cross. And I
never saw this before. But the Romans nailed a sign above his
head, having to do with his identity. He's the king of the
Jews. And then those passing by hurled insults at him say, if
you
the Son of God, come down from the cross, in the same way the chief priests, along with the scribes
and elders, were mocking him. It says, in the same way, saying, well, he said, I am the Son of God,
so let him come down from the cross. And then it says, the robbers who've been crucified with him
were insulting him with the same words. So, basically, what it's saying is, for the first
time, I saw that all these people, the Romans, pacifiers, chief priests, scribes, and elders,
even the robbers, all were insulting him on his identity. It was coming from all sides.
Like, he didn't have, he, so why is it super important that God knew who Jesus was, and
right before those two difficult times, gave him that, this is my beloved Son. So, when you said,
we need to stick to our belovedness, it's so, it just so resonated. And I think that
if we don't, like, I get tempted with not so much that, but with focusing on my numbers,
because I don't know, I think I have 550 total plays on my podcast. But when I focus on my
numbers, then I think, well, maybe I shouldn't be doing this. But then, because I'm so untechnical,
I feel like I have to hire someone to do what you guys are teaching me to do. But when I focus on,
when I focus on my feedback from my audience, I had a woman text me and said, I have been listening
to your podcast, and God told me to tell you that this is what you should be doing. This is really
helping us. And so, it was like, when I focus on what God wants me to do, I feel really happy and
joyful, because I'm lining up with what he wants me to do. But when I focus on the numbers, I get
all scattered. You know what I'm saying? So, I don't know. Oh, absolutely. Because, and you'll
probably understand this better than others, because of your profession. But like, there is
a physical and a physiological reason why we feel good when things are going good. Or when we, you
know, because there's like dopamine hits, there's like, oh, wow, we've got likes, we've got comments,
we've got numbers, right? Like, that's just how we are, like, physically designed to respond to,
you know, achieving goals, take, you know, checking off lists, like all this stuff is
scientifically proven that like, there is a response in our body and in our mind when that
happens. However, those aren't bad things. However, there is a different realm that as new
creations is our actual reality. And that is being completely spirit led. So, why we live in a,
while we have a body and a mind and emotions, and all those things are good, they serve us,
like, there's no reason to be unkind to them, to war against them, to be like, whatever.
But there's just another way. There's a better way. And that is to be spirit led. Because there
are going to be days and moments where it's not going to look like we're producing fruit
in the natural. But this is why it's so important to focus on the work being done in us, because
that at the end of the day, is what matters the most, that we are being made in his image and
likeness. At the end of the day, like Jesus on the cross, being crucified by the leaders of the day,
the top influencers of the day, right? The people who actually were following him just a few weeks
prior, the guys who said they would never leave him nor forsake him, completely denying him,
not once, not twice, three times. John was at the foot of the cross. I don't think the other
disciples were there, right? Completely abandoned and alone. But in that moment, he was still
the beloved son. And there are going to be days where there is so much evidence
in the natural stacked up against us for why we are not beloved. And this is what I feel like
the Lord is really, just to be completely honest, what the Lord is breaking off of Bruce and I,
once and for all, because we have grown up in, I mean, look, we have great families. It's not
our families, but we are just, we're high achievers. And that was praised. That was
rewarded in schools, in churches, in leadership, in jobs. It was like, yay, yay, yay, yay, yay.
And it was so easy to believe that because things were going good, we were good.
We weren't hanging on to our belovedness, even in the goodness, because it was all about what
was being produced by our hands. And that's not actual abiding. I'm even in a place right now
where I'm radically pushing back on what is.
said in John 15 when Jesus was talking about abiding in Him and bearing fruit,
so often that's taught about external fruit, and it's pointed to like big ministries and you know,
people who are doing big things of like, well that's, you know, they must be abiding because
look at what, but I think it's internal fruit. I think it's the fruit of the Spirit. I think
that's what Jesus was talking about. Maybe a theologian will take me on, that's okay too.
I'm willing to be corrected, but I just, I feel like that's the, where the Spirit is leading us
right now. Like we are in the wilderness, and I've even said, like we were, I was kind of
smiling with the Holy Spirit earlier because I have said out of my mouth, like this digital
landscape is like the wild, wild west. Like it is wild. It is wild, but it's the wilderness,
and I feel like we have been led by the Spirit into the wilderness for such a time as this.
Yeah. Okay, go ahead Corrine. I want to, I definitely want to hear what you have to say.
Yeah, so, well, I tend to be the crazy faith girl, kind of like pushing people past their
comfort zone. And in February, the Lord showed me how He's transitioning the people who are
He's transitioning the people who are seen versus not seen, and how the people who have platforms,
let's say like the known prophetic voices, how He's slowly taking away those platforms,
because He wants more of His children to have like kind of their own platforms,
but it's going to look different. And one of the things that He showed me so specifically was that
we often fall back on comforting scripture, like, you know, Jesus being in the wilderness,
and we know it's rough and we're all in social media. And so we all know,
like there's a lot of trolls and, you know, all of that craziness. But then what the Lord,
what the Holy Spirit showed me is that the Bible says that we're going to do greater things than
Jesus did. And He said that this is a time to stop kind of falling back on those scriptures that say,
well, it's okay, because, you know, you know, Jesus did go through this. And so we're going to
go through it too, which we know, but He said to push past it because we're called to do greater
things. And so in the same way that Jesus came out of the wilderness in power and authority,
He's like, keep pushing past. And it's crazy because just last night,
my friend and I started comparing notes. And then as more of our friends came just in our city,
we're having this huge discussion about how people who maybe for decades have gone unseen or
underappreciated for what they do, even like in the community. Now the Lord is making crazy
supernatural connections that, you know, it's just Him intervening.
And so I just want to encourage everyone that we can identify that,
you know, we're in a wilderness or that, you know, you feel like you're in a wilderness, but
the importance of don't rest on that and let that comfort you, allow the Holy Spirit to
power you and push you through it because each one of us has so much to offer so many people.
I mean, we all have an audience of at least hundreds, if not thousands. And Jesus, you know,
He was like, you know, leave the 99 and go after the one. And I mean, I know firsthand. So my
ministry is in year five and I have spent years, I feel like just going after the one, but I was
doing it for the Lord and not doing it for, you know, growth of ministry or whatever else. And
now, and of course, with Bruce and Lindsay's help and expertise of how to, you know, do this
digitally through social media and, you know, just kind of refining messages and all that stuff.
It's like, now I'm almost at 8,000 people and I'm like, Lord, that's just you. And that's just
partnering with each other to say, we each have something to offer one another. And, you know, for
me, it's just my firm belief. Like we're not.
supposed to feel defeated and then feel okay that we're defeated. It's like, no, we have more to
offer. God has given us this incredible thing to release to other people. And I'm going to release
it. And the ones who will hear it are the ones that the Lord needs to hear it. So it's all about
yeah. Thank you, Karina. And it's all about what is it's not that we are in a wilderness. It's
what's happening there. This is a tip. This is typically in the natural, a place of depletion.
But it wasn't that for Moses. It wasn't that for Christ. It was only a place of depletion for the
people who refuse to believe what God said and that they are they were who they are people.
I'm speaking the past. I'm talking about the Israelites who God said that they were. It's
the same for us. We are victorious, period. And it can be so subtle because I know we're
talking about this in terms of being a kingdom messenger, but there's so much that's
happening in our daily lives that can distract us from like just to be like, again, to be real.
I was sitting at my desk earlier and I'm like, there were so many things like, oh my gosh,
I didn't write that person a thank you note. I didn't do this. I haven't finished my grocery
order. Like, it's like the little things that can like pile up and all of a sudden you don't
like yourself. Forget love. You just don't like yourself anymore. You're like, I just,
it was all this like negative identifiers. And those are the places, even those places,
because it was keeping me from like wanting to do anything. Kingdom messenger driven,
posture driven, because I was just thinking about all the things that were wrong with me. Again,
this is the shame that I was talking about even in last week's training. Like, it's not that I'm
doing something wrong. It's that I'm believing something is faulty with me. The kind of quick
release, if you will, is holding onto your belovedness in that. I am loved because I am
loved because I am loved. Not because I'm necessarily killing it right now in my personal
life or killing it right now online. That's what I want to, that's, that's what I feel like the
Lord is breaking us from. And that's what I want to make sure, because we do, we happily talk about
things like the numbers and impact and right, because we want to be people of our word. So we
don't want to just say like, Oh, we're going to help you grow. And then we don't measure those
things. I think it's important to like, keep track of the vision, right? However, it's not,
the chart is not telling us our worth or to use Hillary's term, which I love. It's not telling
us our value. It's not even necessarily proving our fruit as far as the fruit that comes from
abiding, just a metric, just like we would keep metrics of other things in our lives.
So that's what I want to make sure as we move forward as a Kingdom Messenger community,
like I just want us to have a right way of thinking about what it is that we're doing.
And the only way we can move forward in power is to go back to the place of identity,
word and identity. What he says is true. I can trust it and I can be it because I am it.
This is the great I am. And now because of the, because of his I am-ness,
we are. Okay. I want to hear from Marion because we haven't heard from her yet today.
One thing that I'm reminded of is Moses and Gideon, both of them.
They, Moses spent 40 years in the desert, but when God called him to go back to save the people,
he fought against it every step of the way. He said, I can't speak. I'm not good at speaking.
I can't do this until God told him just go. And he went and he practiced using the rod and all of
that, but he had to do it in spite of his negative feelings about who he was. And I believe that as
he stepped into it, it's like God proved to him that that's who he was. And the same with Gideon,
I'm the smallest one of the smallest clan, you know, why me? And God basically just told him
to go and do it and do what he was told. And, and he had to fight. He was even too afraid to let his
brother see what he was doing. So he did it in the middle of the night. So nobody would know,
but he did it. And, and I'm reminded of something that God showed me long ago about healing.
Somebody asked me to pray for somebody and I, I was feeling really anointed, but I was,
I chickened out and I prayed for them that next meeting they went to, they would get healed.
And, and I confessed it to God. I repented and said, next meeting we're in just anoint me up.
right time and I'll do it. And he did. And everybody was gathered and sitting down in
a circle, not watching. And I stood up and went and laid hand on this lady. She fell
down and I went back to my seat and nobody even noticed. But it proved to me I could
do it. But what Jesus said to me was, do you believe you can heal? And I said, no. Do you
believe I can? Of course. So he said, then you lay hands on them and I'll heal them.
And as we do what he's called us to do, God will bring the increase. It's not our responsibility.
So reminds me of Hebrews 11. That's a good chapter for us all to read because you mentioned
Gideon and you mentioned Moses and he talks about the great people of faith in Hebrews
11. And it talks about like, they did it. You can say you believe it, but there's something
about taking action to your point, Marion, which I love is a good, great reminder that
you walk out that belief. You walk out that belief. That's really powerful. That's good.
I think that's what, guys, when we like to bring it back to all that we're doing, the
fact that we launched, the fact that we show up, the fact that we produce and we hit play
and we publish, like it is a statement of our belief. Now there's things that I think
that he's working out in me, even now, even years into this, where he's bringing me back
to this question again, like, do you really believe that I fully love you? Like, even
if this all blew up tomorrow, I fully love you. Like he's bringing me back to that place.
As my response to him in the season has been to continue to show up. I mean, last week was,
it was hard for us to show up again, like and do the training in a larger community because
of things we've been just personally facing. And I showed up to that call, not even quite sure.
And you guys know this is a big deal for me because I'm typically like, let's get it on
the teleprompter. I want to make sure I'm clear. Like I want to be articulate. And I do. And I
think that's, I think that's worthy too. But I was in a place where like, I was like, Lord,
I don't even know if I have all the words tonight. And I don't know if this is going to hit
like I want it to as far as like impact people the way I want it to, but I'm not here to motivate.
I'm just here to obey tonight. This is pure obedience. And it was so interesting just so
you guys can know the place that I was in because of what came out of that, like people really
resonated and that's the Holy Spirit to Marion's point. That's the partnership. That's him flowing
through us. So I just want to encourage you guys. Cause I know, I just, I know that there's people
that I, I follow where I'm led by and it just looks sometimes like, man, they're just like,
they're just, they're just, it's, they never have a bad day. So I'm not here to be like,
let's all sit in the ditch together. Cause we're in it. We're like, the Holy Spirit is leading us
and guiding us. Like we're good. Like we're not like depressed, but it's, we're in it. We're
walking in obedience right now when we don't feel like we're killing it. And the Holy Spirit is
meeting us in that place. Like never before. It's pretty powerful. So, okay. Lee and Brendan,
cause we haven't heard from them yet. Yeah. I just, I just wanted to say, thank you so much for
walking in to obedience and showing up Bruce and Lindsay and Kingdom Messengers. But like,
I feel like the way that you've activated from the very start, when we stepped in, we,
we are completely changed and we we've put you on our list as mentors and, you know,
you're in Atlanta and we're in Australia. Because when we show up to Kingdom Messengers,
like we get encouraged by Kingdom Messengers, but you know, you started in stepping out in
the unknown and showing up and walking in obedience. And I feel like our lives have
changed so much because of that and to continue to change and I'm so inspired by everybody,
but Bruce and Lindsay, thank you so much for walking when you can't necessarily see and,
you know, leading us more than, well, I don't want to say more than what you realized,
but there's so much leadership growth that's happening in me internally, but also with me
in Christ, would you say that? Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. It's just the richness of the word that you
share that, you know, that, that just jumps out and, you know, we, we take that and
when we're in the valid moments that where we say, hang on a minute, what did they say? And,
you know, we're very much, yeah, I have grown so much. And even though, yes,
this, we have those people, family.
we try and explain what we do and we give up.
We just let Holy Spirit just, you know, explain it to them.
And that's fine because we know what we're doing.
And that's the thing that we continue wanting to grow
in our identity and what we're doing.
And so, yeah, we feel very much blessed
and just feel so much joy in what we're doing
in like we're in our flow.
We just feel like we're in our flow together.
And yep, other things are coming in
and we've had somebody else join us in our home
this past week.
So, which is exciting.
All who.
Yeah, part of our who, but yeah.
Thank you.
Awesome.
Thank you so much.
Thanks for sharing that.
We're honored to be your mentors
and we love doing life with you.
So thank you for sharing.
We are coming up on four o'clock.
Now, there was no one in the database
because this is still, we just all have some coaching.
So if you ever need, if you're ever stuck somewhere,
we do wanna give people a place to ask questions.
And again, I just wanna, maybe, yeah,
are you gonna finish?
No, you go.
So I was gonna, just on that point,
because of this, we recognize that there's two kind of,
there's two different conversations happening.
Like, so that's why starting in August
for all of August and September,
we are doing a totally new intensive
and we're gonna be bringing hopefully
a whole bunch more people on into that group.
But you guys are of course included in that
as part of just being in the members.
And, but we are gonna be doubling up.
So we're gonna be doing like a Tuesday call like this,
where it's more mindset and this kind of conversation.
And then we're gonna do tech support day, right?
Just where we just go through all the tech stuff
on Thursday.
So you guys will get two opportunities to hang out
and that way you don't feel so rushed
trying to do it all in one.
So everybody in this group,
we're gonna be kind of going through into September.
So if you guys, that's gonna be for you as well,
because we feel there's this push for growth at some,
and you can always be growing your channel bigger.
You can always be learning or honing something in.
And so while there will be a number of people
that are joining us who are just getting started,
we are gonna challenge you guys to set your own goals
for August and September and to start writing those out
and start trusting the Lord
that you can get to a certain thing,
or maybe it's writing a book or starting a podcast
or doing something that you're not currently doing,
or just growing one of your channels
to a certain size potentially.
So, or someone mentioned they're doing a course as well.
Like there may be other things around this
that you guys are thinking of doing
or just getting your website live.
But so it's gonna be another chance
to sort of set some goals.
We'll be covering a lot of things again from scratch,
but it'll hopefully be valuable to everybody
because I think a lot of it is gonna be
on these Tuesday Transmitter Time,
a lot about mindset stuff,
which we've kind of weaved into other conversations.
But now I think we're taking on a little bit more
specifically to say, this is what is really different
between just being a content creator,
Christian content creator, and being a kingdom messenger.
And there is a way to encourage each other,
do this in community to where we're not hitting things
that are common to content creators like burnout.
That is a very common thing in the YouTube world
and seeing people with eight, 9 million,
10 million subscribers just burning out
and shutting down their accounts like happens every week.
And so we don't have to do that as kingdom messengers.
And there's things like that
that we can encourage each other in
and continue to grow as a community.
So that's what we're excited about.
Absolutely.
Cool.
Does that make sense to everyone
that kind of what those eight weeks will look like?
Yeah, it'll be a time of like intense focus
for us to all hit on individual goals
and we'll return to some of the basics
just to make sure that we're like all up to date
on managing accounts and if there's any,
we're just gonna kind of touch on things again
because we realize we don't wanna miss the opportunity
to make sure that everything is organized and going well.
You know, cause we've talked about things
but it's been like seven months, you know,
or it's been eight months.
So we just wanna kind of bring it back to the-
Yeah.
I'm hoping we're probably gonna weave in
some guest speakers as well.
Yeah, that's our hope.
People that would make it really fun to hear from.
So awesome.
Cool.
Okay, Hillary, you can just take us out, Hillary.
So like, I loved that you brought up
this whole issue of familiarity
and like how we're treated when people feel
we're familiar to them and just reminding us what it's like.
Like when we feel we know the person we're talking to,
we feel we know the situation we're dealing with,
we don't feel dependent upon God.
We're really not looking for his vision
for what my husband's doing right now,
or my children aren't doing right now,
or my sister, my mother, right?
So it makes total sense.
And it just is a reminder for us,
like, you know, when I'm not listening, they get me,
but when I'm listening, they get him.
And so it just, I think it's just a really awesome reminder,
hey, what am I like when I feel that I already know someone
and what they're capable of,
and what I feel like caring about,
and even in regard to Christ.
And then another thing, I was just so fired up
that to each one of us, it's like Moses,
whoever by now had brought up,
I think it was Marian brought up Moses.
And, you know, it was the Lord that said,
I have heard the cries of my people.
I've heard the cries, right?
To us, he says, I've heard the cries in the bedroom.
I've heard the cries in the courtroom.
So I've heard the cries in those back alleys.
I've heard the cries of my people.
So now you go.
And when we forget who's the one, you know, he says,
I have come to deliver my people.
Now you go, right?
So we're like taxi cabs.
We're like donkeys.
We're like, you know, whatever, we're just bringing him.
And if we're vessels for the Holy Spirit,
then we're introducing that kingdom
where the unholy spirits have been so unapologetically,
you know, having their way.
And, oh, that's just a little segue.
I went and bought the websites, unapologetics.com
and unapologetically.com,
because I thought the whole world is unapologetically
like killing babies and burning businesses and churches
and defiling education.
And the church is apologizing, right?
Like apologizing.
And the highest form of Christianity, what, apologetics?
I'm like, no, no, we ought to be the unapologetic ones.
So anyway, I don't know where that's going,
but I went and did that.
And just like what it reminded me of
was when the Lord said,
Hillary, lighthouses don't pursue ships.
So it's not about the ships.
It's about the power that we draw from within
and shine with.
The ships that will,
the lighthouse doesn't even tell what ships
to pay attention to the light, doesn't even,
you know, anything.
It just shines, draws from within and shines.
And the ships that will come, they come.
And he said, a flower doesn't pursue birds,
bees and butterflies, right?
It sucks from that life, that DNA, that nourishment within,
and it blossoms toward the sun
and releases its sweet fragrance.
And it doesn't mind itself with the butterflies and bees
because none of those things and none of those ships
define that lighthouse or that flower.
And then he said, you know, cities of refuge,
they don't pursue refugees.
They just make sure their own aqueducts
and infrastructure and justice system
are shored up or edified and built.
The refugees, they'll come.
And the refugees don't define the city of refuge.
So anyway, I'm all fired up
because I'm like, oh, this is so good.
So, all right, I haven't been out there,
but I'm in here today.
I'm so like...
Here's what I want us all to focus on
because there's so many things we can be doing.
The homework is simple.
Hold on to your belovedness
and ask the Holy Spirit to lead you and guide you in that.
I'm telling you, there will be so much more momentum
by just doing, by just the act of faith in that,
of no matter what happens this week,
no matter what doesn't happen this week,
you are the beloved.
You're beloved just because He has chosen
to love you, to love you, to love you.
And God makes good choices.
That's right.
So we love you guys.
We're gonna be in our community,
the big community tomorrow night.
You guys are welcome to join if you can.
We're gonna be talking basically kind of the same thing
and whatever else the Holy Spirit gives us
between now and then.
Awesome.
We love you guys.
Have a great week.
Talk to you guys soon.
Bye.