We felt pretty strongly that we needed to kind of go back to the beginning, if you will,
and talk specifically about what is a Kingdom Messenger.
Part of the reason is just practical.
We've had new people join our community even this week, so we can't assume that everyone
knows what we mean when we say Kingdom Messenger.
But also, this is a journey that we've been developing as we've gone, and there's been
language and there's been unified understanding that has developed over time as we've taught,
as we've connected with you, as we've gotten feedback, as we've all gotten onto the digital
landscape and come back with our stories and our experiences, our victories and our struggles.
And so we thought, you know, it would be, we wanted to take this opportunity as we were
going through this series this month on Breakthrough and really feeling like we needed to focus
on building that foundation of identity to talk about the traits of a Kingdom Messenger.
So if you saw any of the communication for tonight, you might have seen that it said
Kingdom Messenger, not Content Creator.
I do want to be clear that this is not about vilifying the term Content Creator or Influencer.
I have no issues with you using that.
I don't want you to walk away feeling like you can never call yourself that again, or
somebody calls themselves that, they're being incorrect.
But this is really about stepping into the more of who we are in Christ and our purpose
as we build our channels, as we walk out onto the digital landscape to disciple nations.
And sometimes there's titles that have just come along over time, like Content Creator
and Influencer, that are just a little bit, in my opinion, too generic to really define
and represent what we're doing in this community.
And so that's why we made the comparison.
This is not an us versus them conversation at all, but this is a conversation tonight
about who we are as Kingdom Messengers and what we're not.
And I'm hoping that with that unified understanding, as we move forward, especially into August
and September, into what we're calling our intensive months, as we build, kind of finishing
out this year strong, this year of breakthrough, I want to make sure that we have clarity.
Because everything we do needs to sit on the foundation of who we are, our identity.
We have found, and I really feel like the Holy Spirit, I don't think it's anything necessarily
new.
I just feel like it's one of those things we have all of a sudden started seeing a lot
more of and paying attention to, because I feel like the Holy Spirit's highlighting
it to us, is a lot of content creators are shutting their doors of their channels and
quitting.
And successful content creators, so these are not people who just have a few subscribers
and have tried a few things and said, nope, this is not for me.
These are people that have been building over years.
They put a lot of effort, a lot of energy into what they're doing.
They're very skilled at what they do.
This is not just people who had an all of a sudden overnight success, but they've really
built something, and they've been successful, millions of followers, millions of views,
and they've shut the door.
Some due to burnout, to mental and emotional strain.
They don't want the exposure anymore, as far as sharing their lives.
And what that's told us is, I'll say it's confirmed something we knew to be true, and
that is, this is not about just knowing strategies and tactics.
And this is not about necessarily being a successful content creator.
Because those things, like Bruce has talked about before, this is an infinite game.
So once you hit 1,000, it's like, okay, let's hit 10,000, and once you hit 10,000, it's
like, let's hit 100,000, let's hit a million.
So it's not this, there's no arrival point, so to speak, and I think that gets to people
over time.
That's a hard thing, in your own strength, to maintain and sustain, when it's an infinite
game.
And so thankfully, we're not in this alone, right?
We're partnering with the Holy Spirit in this journey, so it's not up to us to sustain or
maintain.
However, if we're not aware of our foundation in all of this, and God's primary purpose
in all of this, we can sometimes get stuck into the trap that it's all up to me, it's
all about hitting a certain number, it's all about achieving a certain goal, mastering
certain tactics and strategies, and at the end of the day, that is not what's going to
give you life and bring life to other people.
So that's what we want to talk about tonight.
That's really good.
I think there's potentially an echo, so sorry, guys.
Oh, so sorry.
We're working on that.
I'm not sure why that is.
And if you want to maybe it's just the Facebook wants to make sure that I'm
being repeated over and over again it's that good I'm gonna I'm gonna work to
fix that okay Bruce is gonna work and if you guys on faith are can people let us
know in zoom is there an echo Marcella says no it's clear okay so it's not on
zoom it's just happening in Facebook so we're gonna fix that yeah our Facebook
check this real quick if you guys can okay so I'll continue to talk oh my
gosh it's really bad why guys that's funny okay well you can tell a joke or
something okay well I will say if you're on Facebook if you're watching the
stream on Kingdom messenger TV or Facebook feel free to join the zoom go
ahead and join zoom that will fix the echo problem we at least know that right
now but tonight's all about freedom tonight is all about discovering more of
who we are and who God is in this journey as being Kingdom messengers our
purpose you know we've said it from the beginning we want to leverage the
digital landscape to disciple nations and this is about some of you are about
to break ground for the first time as you launch and others are about to take
ground take more territory in what you're doing and so how's the echo I
just don't want to say too much if it's not gonna be someone says sing for only
I no one want that is not my spiritual gift I'll say that right now that's
awesome I will ask if you guys are in the chat because I love some dialogue
between so if you were able to join us last week I'd love to hear some of your
like what you've been experienced this week what has been really cool for me
and really confirming is some of you have commented like this is really
resonating with what the Lord is speaking with to you right now this is
something that you're experiencing firsthand when it is training the Holy
Spirit is walking us through as he's increasing our capacity increasing our
strength increasing our stamina in this season so if there's anything that
whether it's scripture all better that's right if it's scripture if it's a
testimony please don't hesitate to like don't hold that back is what I'm saying
please share that with the community and with us in the comments in the chat
tonight because I I am very I'm wanting to hear what the Lord is sharing with
you as well and Marcella says she's experienced a kind of release but she
can't fully explain it I think that's really interesting Marcella because I do
believe that there's some there's inner work that's happening that we can't
quite articulate this is what Bruce and I was we're feeling right as we were
coming into July and why I was even hesitant to run this series of trainings
because I honestly was like I don't know if I'm gonna be able to fully articulate
and so part of my obedience is showing up with you guys and starting to talk
you know and it's been really cool we've even had really interesting
conversations as we've been preparing for these trainings and there's
something really powerful I know this is biblical as well about writing things
down writing the vision down capturing it this is all we're gonna talk about
that a little bit tonight as well the power of keeping the testimony so if you
guys are like similar to Marcella and what I was even experiencing this month
I'm feeling something stirring but not quite sure how to articulate I would
encourage you to journal with the Lord and just let it flow I do believe that
he is giving us seeds for harvest to come and there's some things that you're
gonna be journaling in this season that you're gonna be proclaiming in the next
so right and I think as well like you've said the whole month of July we are
working into having building up some momentum right and going into August and
September and it's kind of like any kind of momentum right like if you're moving
if a train has stopped and all of a sudden it needs to start moving again
it's just there's so much weight behind it that sometimes when you see it so
even like in the last week and then tonight maybe you're feeling like okay
it's kind of something's turning but we're not really like having traction
yet but it does pick up speed and it will basically it gets easier and easier
and easier and that's what we're hoping to do in July is just build that
momentum for you into this next thing because like I said we believe this is a
year breakthrough and we're into you know July now so we're into the second
half of the year and we've got high expectations what the Lord's gonna do
for our channels and our lives for Kingdom Messengers and for all of your
own channels and what you're doing with your own ministry week we're excited to
see what happens this year and something we're kind of sharing from our from our
from what's happening with us personally as well so we'll be sharing some stories
and things and there's things there's truths that we know you know that we've
experienced in the past or we know to be true in our heads but there are
opportunities as we face resistance or we face hard circumstances for those
truths to be solidified in our lives and sometimes that happens in layers and
levels and I feel
Like one of the layers that the Lord has been walking Bruce and I through for years and
deeper and deeper layers and levels is that his primary purpose for us, his primary purpose
for you, is not to build a big ministry, or an excellent business, or a large organization.
God's primary purpose is to build you.
Genesis 126 tells us from the very beginning that God made us in his image and likeness.
And I love what Ephesians 2 says, let me pull it up, because the Lord brought this familiar
scripture back to my remembrance recently and had me sit there because quite honestly,
it's easy to get stuck in this, as you begin to experience momentum and you begin to grow
and you begin to reach more people, even though you know it to be true, it's easy to feel
as if the ministry, the work of our hands, is what matters the most.
And Ephesians 2, let's start in, it's all really good, but let's start in verse 19 and
I'll just read through verse 22.
It says, consequently, you are no longer foreigners and strangers, but fellow citizens with God's
people and also members of his household, built on the foundation of the apostles and
prophets with Christ Jesus himself as a chief cornerstone.
In him, the whole building is being joined together and rises to become a holy temple
in the Lord.
And in him, you too are being built together to become a dwelling place in which God lives
by his spirit.
I love, I think Graham Cooke said it this way, you are God's address, that he no longer
lives in brick and mortar or platform or ministry, but he lives in flesh and blood.
So we carry his presence wherever we go.
And so tonight I want to remind us that it's his presence in us, so it becomes our presence
in people's screens that is bringing transformation to people.
It's not necessarily, it's definitely not the graphics, the flashy things, your ability
to not say um or like a million times, it's the fact that you are showing up.
And we, just as we believe that his presence changes things, we can believe that about
ourselves as sons and daughters of God who are filled with his spirit, filled with his
presence and coming onto the digital landscape, we can expect victory.
We can expect that we actually take territory.
We can expect that we're not going to be subject to things like big tech, trolls, technology
issues, crashes, hacking, because we are his sons and daughters.
So tonight is about reminding us that his primary purpose is building us.
And what we're doing as we, you know, become kingdom messengers and go out on the digital
landscape and build our channels is it's relational with him.
It's about what's happening between you and him, what he's speaking to you, how he's growing
you, what he's highlighting for you.
So I don't want you to forget that because I think a big lie that I carried for a long
time, I won't speak for anyone else, but that I carried for a long time as a ministry leader,
as a long haul Christian, you know, grew up in church, is that it was about what I was
doing, not about who I was being.
And I want to reverse that for people.
This is about who you are, and this is about what he's building in you.
So we're going to talk about those five traits.
I don't know if you want to add anything before I jump in.
No, it's great.
I think as well, like, just want to jump back to one thing you said is that some people
are trying to be perfect with their message and the things that we've noticed, we've been
doing this for just coming on about almost two years, a year and a half, I think.
And so with helping, with Kingdom Messengers, we've been helping Christian content creators
and Kingdom content creators for about 10 years.
And churches.
Yeah, and all kinds of ministries getting online.
And that's very common.
Like everybody's wondering, like, well, okay, great, I'm going to do this.
So tell me, like, what camera do I need to buy and what microphone and all that stuff.
And all that stuff is great and it's very helpful, but it is really kind of like an
80-20 thing.
Like, yes, it's important, but it's not the most important thing.
Getting your content out in bad lighting with, you know, if you can hear it sound,
you know, you don't need to be distracting, but just getting it out.
way and and that's the thing is when we're we've got a message that is stirring in our heart and
we feel that that we're collaborating with the lord and we feel like like he's with us that you
can just start to share you can just share that overflow from what the lord is doing with you and
some of the breakthrough that you're getting it doesn't have to be this perfectly scripted thing
in fact what's working much better even in the way content is when you're more authentic if it's less
produced if it's less you know polished essentially and that's why platforms like tiktok and others are
doing so well is because it's just very very raw and so the goal is just start right like just get
your message out and i think there's some of these things that we want to go through tonight is just
making sure that we have the right mindset of a kingdom messenger and we're not just trying to be
christian content creators right that's not the goal is just to put uh we're going to teach you
all the the social media things and then we're just going to put like a you know a fish sticker
on the on the top right the christian label on it we want to actually be true kingdom messengers
we're walking out in our identity and we're uh that's how we're actually teaching and bringing
people and discipling people online and yeah i think what i think maybe frustration is the wrong
word but i think something that we have been so stirred by is there's people like you who are
watching who we know are led by the holy spirit filled with his spirit right led by the holy
spirit have experienced testimony and breakthrough in your own walk with the lord have a message to
share and we found that it's um it's mostly i'm trying not to like make it i'm not trying to
generalize or speak for people but generally speaking those are the people who we want to
get out the most like right like you have something to share you have wisdom you have experience
that are the most hesitant and then there's a lot of creators online not necessarily christian
creators but a lot of creators online that have a lot of confidence and really weak content
and i think that's just a frustration that we strut like we're like we need to get the kingdom
messengers out there right like yeah that's right martell's like yeah i see that you know so there's
a there's a lot of noise right now and there's a lot of people who are following um weak
content and satisfied by that right and so our desire is to build your confidence because it's
time to unleash we we thought starting this movement we didn't know it was a movement we
were doing it we did a workshop we didn't know how it was gonna go but we thought it was all about
helping people get their message out there yep and what we've actually found it it hasn't been
necessarily about us unleashing the message it's about us unleashing the messenger because a lot
of people who came into the community were struggling with the confidence to actually
get out there and go like the message was there the heart was there they have character and
humility but they just needed i think they're waiting for permission maybe to say like you can
do this meanwhile there was a lot of creators out there that didn't have the humility didn't have the
heart for people didn't have the you know life-changing transformational message that are
just out there chatting it up and so that's i think part of our desire is to to turn that tide
so to speak so that's great okay i don't want to belabor the point but i i know we have some new
people too i just want you to hear our heart like you can do this yeah now you don't have to wait
another year you don't have to wait more months to do it like the time is now so it's awesome
it's exciting and i think it's the same thing people were like oh well this person started
back in 2017 this person started back in 2013 it would have been a great time to start a youtube
channel 10 years ago but the second best time to start those things your kingdom channel is today
right like same thing like best time to plant a tree would have been 20 30 years ago but the second
best time is today right and i know we also have people within our community who have started they've
launched they've they've grown the channel a little bit then they've stopped for whatever reason maybe
life happened they needed to take a step back and now they're like trying to get it started again
and the best time to do that is now as well i'll say that it's now awesome cool okay so let's talk
about this so i this is this is by no means a fine like a final end all be all like this is all
the traits but we we've spent some time with this and we we really felt like we didn't want to give
you 15 things but there's five traits to a kingdom messenger that we want you to consider we want you
to embrace we want you to move forward in take on this as part of your identity because we really
feel like this is going to build a family
foundation for you for lasting impact,
and it's not gonna be a place of you building
your channel out of a place of burnout
or stress or strain, so.
The first one is this, it's an identity statement,
and that is we are beloved, not belittled.
We are beloved, not belittled.
What do I mean by that?
Well, we know from scripture that,
I'll go to the most maybe famous scripture of all time,
God so loved the world, he so loved us
that he sent his only begotten son.
We are loved by God.
Furthermore, when we come to Christ,
when we choose him, we become one with him.
Second Corinthians says we are new creations in Christ.
And the gospel simply put, you can see this in Romans 6,
you can see this in Colossians 3,
that Christ died as us and we were raised as him.
So we are now one with Christ, we're one with the beloved.
Jesus prayed in John 17 that we would know
that the father loves us just as he loves Jesus.
Romans 8 says there's no separation.
So there's scripture after scripture,
promise after promise that speaks to our belovedness.
And recently, I shared this with the members yesterday,
God had brought me back to the wilderness
when Jesus was in the wilderness in Matthew 4,
and I've got Luke 4 open, so it's also in Luke 4.
But it says in Luke 4, this is so interesting,
it says Jesus, full of the Holy Spirit,
left the Jordan and was led by the Spirit
into the wilderness.
I paused there for quite a long time
because I saw it with fresh eyes
because to be quite honest,
I was in a place of commission
that I confused as a place of condemnation.
Because we were in a wilderness this year,
things were happening, hard circumstances,
and I misinterpreted that as condemnation.
I did something wrong, we missed the mark,
we have to go back to the beginning,
figure out what happened, what is God trying to teach us?
As if it was a passive aggressive message from him,
like figure it out, learn the lesson, right?
I know better than that, guys, and you do too.
Some of you right now, I just wanna encourage you,
you think you're in a place of consequence,
you think you're in a place of condemnation,
perhaps it's a place of commission.
Right before Jesus was led into the wilderness,
he was baptized by John the Baptist,
and we know that the Holy Spirit descended upon him
like a dove and a voice from heaven came and said,
"'You are my son, whom I love.
"'With you, I am well pleased.'"
Other translations say,
"'This is my beloved son, whom I am well pleased.'"
He received his identity from the Father, beloved,
and right after that,
was led into the wilderness by the Spirit.
A place that seemingly seemed to be lacking
everything that he needed, and not only that,
but in a place where there was like,
seemingly it was all lack, the devil came to tempt him.
And the devil questioned his identity.
He went after his identity, and he went after the Word.
Devil doesn't have anything original.
He has no, Xavier says you have to stop talking
about all the details of my life, that's funny, Xavier.
We're in this together, Xavier.
But I know that many people can resonate with this.
The devil went after his identity,
and he went after the Word of God.
Just like in the garden, did God really say?
Is this who you really are?
Same thing happened to the Israelites in the desert, right?
They were in that wilderness,
and they questioned, did God really say?
And who are we anyway?
We're grasshoppers in their eyes.
That is how they chose to identify,
in the place of the wilderness, in a place of commission,
they mistook it as a place of condemnation,
and they misidentified.
You are the beloved, don't belittle yourself.
Don't settle for anything short of that.
What I was so taken by, by rereading this account of Jesus in the wilderness, was as he answered the devil, he held on to his belovedness.
He did not let that go.
And he kept saying, it is written, it is written, solidifying that I believe the word.
I believe the word. I believe the word.
And you guys have been given a word.
Written, also prophetic words, also the word of God living inside of you.
You have been given the word.
You are beloved.
Don't let it go.
Not in the wilderness, not on the mountaintop.
It's tempting to do that on both.
Because in the wilderness, we want to believe it's a place of condemnation, or of consequence.
I've done something wrong. I am something wrong, which is shame.
And then sometimes on the mountaintop, it's easy to forget that we're there because of the word.
That we're sustained by the word.
And we begin to work out of our own abilities, and our own success, and our own skill.
And it's the same on either spectrums.
You are because he said.
And nothing changes that.
That's good.
Yeah, I just want to get some of these comments that are coming in.
This is really good.
Someone said, yeah, it's always about, Beth said, it's always about identity.
It's always about identity.
It's good.
It's always about identity.
If you read through any of the accounts of our heroes, our biblical ancestors, right?
You'll find that what the enemy tries to go after, what the resistance, and the enemy being the enemy, the devil,
or even some of the enemies that they fought in their lifetimes.
It always went after, did God say, and is this who you really are?
It's a big, big deal.
That's good.
So as Kingdom Messengers, we hold on to our belovedness.
In the good times and the bad times, we are beloved.
And from that place is where this partnership begins to stem.
So the second trait is we operate in partnership, not performance.
This is a big deal for those of us who have done ministry for a long time because performance is rewarded.
Is it not?
Performance is what gets us stage time.
It's what gets us the leadership role.
It's what gets us the star volunteer award each year.
And it's not about performance.
This was a big deal for me moving into doing ministry online, doing ministry differently.
The Lord has had to break that performance mindset off of me because it is something that I thrive in.
A lot of, you know, we joke, we're old as kids, we're, you know, a little bit type A.
We can do the thing.
Give us the gold star, right?
Tell me I'm doing a good job.
And I thought being a good Christian meant being a busy Christian.
It's what led to my burnout.
I know I shared my stories before.
But the Lord has redeemed so much of that in this new landscape, in this new mission field that he's commissioned me into.
And I'm learning how to partner with him because it is a partnership.
He is not depending on my performance.
He is not looking for perfection.
Jesus' work was a finished one.
So everything we do now is stemming from that place of fullness.
Let me read for you out of Colossians because it's just so rich.
And you can say it better than I can.
Let's see.
So in Colossians chapter 2, it says in verse 9 and 10, it says,
This is a big deal because I realize a lot of my Christian life, a lot of my ministry leadership life, I was working for fullness.
I was looking to be fulfilled.
I was looking to be filled.
And in some cases, if I felt filled, I thought my job was to pour myself out.
Like I get filled up so I can pour myself out.
And over and over again, right?
We've been taught that.
But no.
Your fullness is your starting point.
You are living from a place of fullness now because of Christ.
Because of Christ.
Not because of how great you are of an orator or a communicator or an organizational person or an administrator or a theologian.
All those things are fun and good.
That is not the basis of what qualifies you, and that is not the thing that drives you.
It's the fullness of Christ.
This is a partnership with Him.
What if we caught that delight that the Father has in partnering with us in building our
kingdom channels?
What if we were no longer working for His delight?
Like God, please be pleased with me.
Please be happy with me.
Like how well I'm doing, what if it wasn't about that at all?
What if it was, Lord, because I know I'm your beloved, and I know you're pleased with me,
you're delighted in me, from that place overflows creativity and innovation and a commingling
of our desires to bring freedom to the captives, recovering sight to the blind, healing the
brokenhearted, transforming nations, impacting the world.
What if that was our starting point?
What if that was our foundation for our ministry, for doing the things we do?
It's because we share this desire with God to change the world, to unlock creation from
frustration, and we're going to do that in varying different ways, by the way.
There's no right way, like one right way to do that.
He had to break me from coveting the pulpit, because I thought that was the best of the
best that I could do.
We were marketplace people, and yet it was where we were ultimately fulfilled, but yet
we didn't feel like that was majestic enough, because we thought, well, it's what's happening
on Sunday.
And for some people-
Or ministry just happens on Sunday.
Or ministry just happens on Sunday, or it's what we're doing in the meeting that matters
the most, and we were totally discrediting.
And I'm not accusing anyone of making us feel this way.
This was just how we interpreted things.
This was on us, right?
This is how we were translating what was happening in the systems that we were in, is like, okay,
this is where we actually lay down our life.
It's here within this organizational structure, and what we're doing Monday to Friday in the
marketplace is secondary.
And some of you may be feeling that, you might be educators, you might be in the classroom
Monday to Friday, and thinking, yeah, but it's really what I do on the weekend.
That's really the kingdom advancement.
No, it's what's happening in the classroom.
That's your space.
Some of you are called to entertainment, some of you are called to government.
It's not secondary, because it's all about partnering with the Lord in that sphere, in
that place.
So this is important, guys.
This is not just a, oh yeah, we put together a fun little list of things we think defines
a kingdom messenger.
These are hard-fought victories for us that we've had to walk through with years of our
lives, and the process we don't despise.
We don't think back and think, those were wasted years, because the Lord was with us
in that process, making us into his image and likeness.
And we're gonna look back 10 years from now and think, oh my gosh, look at how much the
Lord has done, how much we've grown, right?
That's the beauty of it.
We are on a journey with the Lord, you are on a journey with the Lord.
It is not about an arrival point, it is not about a trophy, it is not about a gold star,
it's not about filling your book of check marks.
It's about becoming, and that is a journey, and that is a process that is lifelong, and
it's all about partnership, not about performance.
If it's about performance, it's about Jesus' performance, and his performance was perfect,
and we can rest in that.
And it's from that perfect performance that he performed, that we can't take away or add
to, that we get to now walk here on earth in his victory, in his likeness, in his image,
and as he is, so are we in this world.
That's awesome.
I want to just take a second, since we're, maybe a few people that have joined us, we're
just going through kind of the differences between a kingdom messenger and a content
creator.
And we're just talking through some of these mindset shifts that you have to take when
you become a kingdom messenger, and we don't want to simply just put a Christian label
on a content creator, on what we're doing.
There is a way to leverage the digital landscape as a kingdom messenger.
There's a way to do that where it is really all about freedom.
It's about you being able to share your thoughts, about you being able to share your testimonies,
and what the Lord's doing in your life.
And it's not about this, like Lindsay said, it's not about performance.
It's not about, you know, it's not about, it's about partnership.
Yeah, and so the reason we wanted to take some time with that is because we know that
there is, we want there to be freedom for creativity in what you're passionate about,
in what you want to bring to the screen.
We kind of, I do what I do with
posture, and that's how I do it.
And there's some best practices
that I can share from that.
We share that in our workshops and
in our trainings.
But some of you want to
have a cooking channel.
Some of you want to do parenting,
like parenting vlogs and blogs.
Some of you want to pour into
homeschool moms.
Some of you want to pour into
healthcare workers and
share the message there.
So do it, it doesn't have to look
a certain way, because going back
to our first trait, you are the
beloved, and I don't want you to
belittle the things that you are
passionate about because I'm doing
it one way, or Marcella's doing it
one way, or Mark is doing it one
way, or Xavier.
Because the point is, your presence
on someone's screen brings
transformation because of the
presence that is inside of you.
So we don't want people to feel
held back by, oh, it has to look a
certain way, or it has to be like
me giving a teaching or a sermon.
It can be those things, but
it might look radically different.
And that's okay, because it's about
you being in people's screens,
in people's lives, and
that brings transformation.
Beyond just the words that we speak,
it's the word in you.
Yeah, and this is something we're
very passionate about because we
feel like there are so
many spiritual fathers and mothers
out there that haven't, either the
tech is blocking them or some of
these mindset things are blocking
them, that if we could just kind
of get them sharing online.
Like, there's generations that
need that guidance, the spiritual
fathers and mothers online, and I
think we just need more of them.
Like, we're not really looking to
kind of Christian influencers that
maybe don't have the experience.
And by that, I mean more like
people in their early 20s kind of
sharing life advice, right?
Like, we need people who've got
experience, who've walked with the
Lord, who are walking out these
things that we're talking about.
And that's just a way to encourage
this generation.
Like, in my mind, this is what
revival can look like.
It can be online.
It can be through a screen.
It doesn't have to be in an arena.
You know, it doesn't have to look
like a specific thing.
It can be a digital arena.
It can be an online arena of people
that you're talking to every week.
And this is something we're very
passionate about.
We are on a mission, and we've
said this before, to go and reach
a million people a week with the
good news of the gospel, to have
reaching a million people amongst
all of our kingdom messengers that
are in this community every single
week.
And, you know, we're around 280,000
towards that number, so about 28%
towards the goal, which is amazing.
And we're only a year and a half
into it.
But that is something that we feel
we're trying to measure because we
feel like the Lord's given us and
given kingdom messengers this
permission and this space to go
and to be a light, especially now
more than ever, where we need it.
And we need those spiritual
fathers, mothers to step up, share
wisdom, share truth, share
encouragement, and do it in such a
way that actually builds people
up and encourages them.
And this is really interesting.
I do want to make sure that we
don't create confusion when we
talk about chronological age.
Bruce is someone who's actually
been working with the older
generations since he was a
teenager, equipping older
generations to be online,
livestream their sermons.
He's been doing that.
So it's been really cool for us to
be in this space, and there's
people who are twice our age that
we're helping train and release.
Because from a very young age,
this is a truth that I think even
before you could articulate it,
you knew to be true, is we need
more spiritual fathers and
mothers, period.
And we've added to that and
said we need more spiritual
fathers and mothers online.
Now, what I do want to say,
because I would like to still
identify as young.
I think you can be a father and
mother at really any age.
I really do.
So I don't want to discredit if
you're on here and
you're in your 20s,
like this isn't for you, it is.
But the third trait is what really
ignites this for us, and that is,
we share testimony, not theory.
So what we come and
share is based on our experience
with the Lord, our testimony,
our breakthrough, and not theory.
We don't teach what we don't know.
And this should set you free.
This set me free, because this was
a big roadblock for me when I was
getting ready to launch my podcast,
because I told the Lord,
there is so much I don't know.
Lord, it's like I couldn't see
anything other than what I didn't
know.
Lord, what if somebody comes at me
with a question about this
theology point, or this scripture,
or should women be teaching
the gospel, all those things, right?
There are so many things I don't
know, Lord.
He said, I'm not asking you to come
and teach what you don't know.
know I'm asking you to share what you do know and you know me and we have a
history together and there's been breakthrough in these areas of your life
and that's what I want you to share and what's so cool is that that was you know
two years ago I know more now yeah and I'll know more two years from now
because as I began to continue partnering and participating with the
Lord I have more experience with him there's more breakthrough there's more
testimony and so this would really set you free to say I can speak from a place
of testimony yeah and I won't say this is something we've seen so often and
this is very true of any kind of content creation or anytime you're trying to
share wisdom on any topic or teach someone something we're kind of in this
digital bubble through social media through Facebook YouTube when we get on
all these algorithms are sharing content that we are very very interested in so
what we don't want to do is make the mistake that there are there's all these
other people out there who are more articulate that are sharing kind of what
you would share just in better words right because those are just so few and
far between it's only because it's kind of like we're all on this this journey
kind of going through the jungle and we're trying to carve a path of like oh
hey let's go this way let's go that way you're kind of facing forward and you're
looking at two or three people that are like oh there's this speaker there's
that you know pastor whatever that I'm looking towards that I'm like okay
they're doing great and I'm kind of learning from them but you don't see
there's like potentially a million people behind you that are like lost
that don't know the way that don't know and and your testimony you jump it you
know sharing you articulating kind of what the Lord's doing with you is
something that can actually help someone and that's something that I think holds
a lot of people back from starting because they just think well there's all
these other people that are doing it so much better like I'm gonna jump on their
share something and no one's gonna listen it's not gonna help anyone and
that is just a line I think is definitely some some deception in that
because we don't that's not true of how big the world really is there are just
so so many people that need to hear your what you have to say absolutely and
there's so many people that don't know the people that are pouring into you and
no matter how big you think their names are like for me Graham cook is someone I
was mentored for years and I thought well Graham's already saying it's so much
better than I ever could right it's amazing to me how I have shown up to
reach my particular who and they don't know who Graham cook is yeah that was
good and quite honestly many of them if they were see him on their screen might
just like scroll through because they might think well I don't relate to him
right but for whatever reason they've related to me this is the power of what
we've talked about in past workshops of knowing your who you're not called to
reach the whole world Graham is not called to reach the whole world I'm not
called to reach the whole world I'm called to reach my world and you're
called to reach your world and when you do that the whole world is reached and
so it's a lie like Bruce is saying it's a deception we kind of get caught in
this bubble of like well everyone already knows what I would already be
talking about or well they would be listening to these other people who
could articulate it better than me no there are people that will receive from
you that won't receive from other people for whatever reason some of it's
superficial right it's like well I don't like the way they look or I don't like
the way they talk people say I talk fast right there's some people that just are
not gonna receive from me that's totally okay there's somebody else's who
I am called to reach my who that is my that is that is what I am doing when I
show up and we have to release ourselves from the fear going back to trait number
one we are the beloved we have to give ourselves over to perfect love and cast
out any fear that would keep us from showing up for our who because the
reality of the situation is there is a story that you have with God that needs
to be heard by someone right don't hold back yeah like this amazed me I if you
guys have heard my story before and past workshops like I showed up for the one
friend cuz like that was it was like the Lord had given me just enough of a spark
to get me started right not telling me that you're gonna one day you're gonna
be reaching a hundred thousand people every week if he had started there I
think I would have just like never have gone for it but it was like he got me
going by saying okay I'm gonna reach this one friend that feels safe I can do
that right and it's been amazing to me the testimonies that if the feedback
that have come from people that are saying I needed to hear this today this
is so timely for me right now I literally just had a message from
someone saying I was such in a low place I just I just released a interview
series with my dear friend Ashley Ashley is amazing has an amazing
testimony on rest breaking out of severe depression and anxiety which is similar
to my testimony and this woman wrote in and she said I was such at a low place
and so anxious and when I watched you and Ashley's interview it was an answer
to my prayer
It's like, God put it in front of me for such a time as this, so you never know.
You never know.
So it's not about what you don't know, it's about what you do know.
There's so many people that said that you could have used as an excuse to not go live
to share.
And I think one of the things we want to always lean into is that the Lord made us all very
unique and different for a reason, right?
It's kind of going back to what we learned in Sunday school, right?
That's just something that the Lord has made us very unique for a purpose because we have
a certain way of communicating.
There's people that would love to listen to Lindsay, but like I said, may not know who
are the people that Lindsay is following.
And there's a lot of people who are doing kind of social media content and all that
stuff.
Oh yeah, we could have totally made that excuse.
There's other people teaching people how to launch the podcast.
And they're doing it way better, and they've got millions of people on YouTube and whatever.
And I think that's something where the people that, when we start speaking to our who, to
the people that Lord's called us to reach, that is where we have started to introduce
or reference some of these people.
And like I said, they don't necessarily know who these people are.
It's just that we're in this little bubble, so it seems so big and important to us because
of the algorithm.
So noisy, so exaggerated.
Yeah.
Exactly.
It's kind of overwhelming.
But in actual fact, there's so many of these people that have never heard of these, what
you would consider sort of everybody who does this.
Oh, my rock stars.
Yeah.
My rock stars, right?
They've been my heroes of the faith.
Yeah.
And I think, well, everyone knows who they are.
Not necessarily.
So this leads me into our fourth trait, and that is we engage in community, not competition.
So some of our greatest joy actually has been to introduce our who to the people that who
are our rock stars, who are our heroes of the faith, or who are our heroes on building
social media and things like that.
And the point is this.
It is a big world.
I know it seems small, especially when we're in our bubbles, right?
People that kind of believe what we do and know what we do, but it is a very, very big
world.
And this is the power of getting to discover your who and show up specifically for your
who, is it gives you focus in a very big world.
Right.
And it frees us from competing.
Yep.
Like this was something that someone imposed to me when I started Kingdom Messengers because
the background was I had started growing my podcast and then I started getting some questions
from people and my DM saying, Hey, I love what you're doing.
Can you share some advice?
Do you do coaching?
And at first I didn't, but it kind of led us down to this road of let's teach people
how to do this.
If you haven't heard the story, the kind of the pivotal conversation with the Lord was
we were going into 2021 and he said, look, we can partner together on building your channels
to a million and beyond.
That would be fun.
There's nothing wrong with that.
Or another option is we can spend this year helping others build their channels and together
as a collective, you can reach a million people personally.
We didn't think there was, there's no wrong answer.
There's really not.
I know one seems more, you know, humbled and dignified, but truly he gave us the option
like what do you want to partner in this year?
And we said, we want to do, we want to help other people.
And somebody posed to me, a friend as we were like starting to build this thing, they said,
aren't you afraid of helping the competition?
Like helping other people build their Christian podcast kind of as a joke, he was just kind
of joking, but like, I said, no, because there's no competition.
There's only community in the kingdom.
It's a big world and I'm not called to reach the whole world, right?
As we've talked about before.
And so what I've loved about what we're doing in Kingdom Messengers is we've really, we've
gathered as a collective.
So what we do with our road mappers and our members is we have this dashboard that every
week we update with all of our social media accounts, like Bruce had mentioned before.
So we know for sure, this is how many people we're reaching so far.
Why do we do that?
Does it make it all about the followers and the numbers?
And I thought we weren't worried about gold stars.
What we're doing, what we believe we're doing out of integrity is we're keeping the testimony.
That's what that's about.
Something that we do as a family every year, this is something Bruce's parents started
when he was younger, is at the end of every year, we kind of going into the new year,
we gather our testimonies for the year and we sit as a family and we share, this is what
the Lord has done.
And every year we comment on how embarrassing it is of how many testimonies we forget throughout
the year.
And we kind of go back in our journal like, oh my gosh, and the Lord did that and the
Lord did that and the Lord did that.
And so we just, there's so many things that the Lord is doing that often we don't keep.
And guys, this is our evidence.
This is our proof.
And so we want to keep the testimony.
Like we want, it's not, yes, it's not about the numbers, but we have decided as a group
like we want to reach a million people.
and beyond.
So like, let's take account of that.
Let's keep the testimony.
Otherwise, it's like, well, okay, how many,
okay, that's great, like, Xavier's got 1,000
and Marcello's got 2,000,
but we never really are working as a community
when we're doing that.
It's kind of still about the individual.
So that's why we wanted to put it all in the pot,
so to speak, and we kind of keep the testimony that way.
Yeah, and I want to just, you know,
I want to share kind of two things here
that we always come up,
and I'll pull this up for a second here
just so you guys can kind of see
what Lindsay's talking about on this dashboard.
So we have, this is our dashboard that we use every week.
So there's one that we get that's like the whole,
everybody's looking at as a community.
This is all of our Kingdom Messenger roadmap,
Kingdom Messenger members that are part of our intensive.
And so we track, we actually have someone on our team
that goes every Monday and they count
and make us in a spreadsheet.
This is how many that Marcello has.
This is how many that Xavier has for YouTube,
for TikTok, for Instagram, for, you know, YouTube.
So that's, then we total it all up
and we track our progress as a community.
And so you'll see what's really interesting.
We've been kind of growing TikTok.
If you guys remember in January,
we did a lot of TikTok training
and that kind of launched this whole TikTok trend,
which now has become like our biggest channel as a community.
And what's cool is we actually give this,
you get your own kind of customized dashboard
where you can see this as well and track your own progress,
but no one else sees your dashboard.
Like no one else sees where your numbers are
and where theirs are.
We only see where you're at and where the community is at.
And that was something we made at the beginning
to emphasize this, that we are here to,
it's not about competition, it's about community.
And this is like, this is how we're Christ-like
because Jesus shares his victories with us.
We share in his victory.
And so we wanna be a community where if you win,
that means we all win.
And if I win, we all win.
And that's what we wanted to model with that.
And so as you come into this community,
cause guys, I've been a part of like Facebook groups,
I've been a part of communities and it's like,
it can be brutal.
Like, you know, no one wants to share their ideas
because someone's gonna steal them.
Like it's very, it's competitive and it's cutthroat
and it's just icky, it's just weird.
And this is a safe space.
This is a community where we're gonna give
authentic feedback.
We're going to celebrate wins.
We're gonna be with you in the struggles.
We're gonna help you get unstuck.
That's what our vision is for this community.
That's what we wanna model as we lead you.
And so you are not in competition.
You are in community.
And this is, I think this is a big point of burnout
for a lot of content creators because it's like,
you're only as good as the next person.
And everyone's comparing their channels together
and this person stole this person's idea
and it's just icky.
And we're not doing that here.
You're part of a community, you're not in competition.
Yeah.
And you know, it's gonna be something that,
as you said, this is an infinite game.
So essentially, you know, meaning that,
like I said, Lindsey said,
when you get to a certain number, a thousand,
you're gonna try to get to 5,000.
When you get to 5,000 followers,
you're gonna try to get to 10.
That's just natural, that's what you should,
because if you are helping 10 people break through,
if you find freedom, have that freedom
that they've been looking for,
like why wouldn't you help even more, right?
Because it's digital, because it can scale so fast,
that's the power of the digital landscape
is that you can use the same amount of effort
to reach 10 people as it is to reach 10,000 people.
That's what we call leverage, right?
And so in doing that together as a community,
it makes it so much more.
And so as you're going through these different levels,
what I was saying is you have to have community
to go from one level to the other,
because it's just gonna get more and more and more,
and you're gonna need community and that connection.
The worst thing you can do is be doing this in isolation
and doing it by yourself.
If you're an entrepreneur,
or if you're just online creating content,
doing that alone can be very lonely, right?
Like it's-
Well, it can be very dangerous too, quite honestly.
Yeah, and dangerous, yeah.
Because you are, it can be,
you can make you vulnerable to the wrong things.
And so community is a great accountability.
It's where you can get great feedback,
and it makes things fun.
I mean, it really does.
Like I think we have, I mean,
because it's not always easy work.
We're learning new skills.
We're like dealing with tech issues.
We, you know, Bruce got his Facebook account
deleted for a while.
Yeah.
And it's like, you know what?
Like when that happens,
like you need some people to like have your back.
And so that's what this,
that's what we love to provide for you guys.
When we win, you win.
And when you win, we win.
And I'm going to lead us into the final trait.
And that is we live in rest, not restriction.
This is all about who's your source because rest is not inactivity, rest is
the place. It is our place of abiding in the Father and it's resting in the truth
that He is our source in all things. For provision, for protection, for identity,
for comfort, for love, He is our source for all things. This will set you free
because it makes you subject to none of the negative things. There's no lack in
the kingdom, there's no orphans in the kingdom, there's no scarcity in the
kingdom because in the kingdom we are sourced by our Father God and that is
our place of rest. That is where we abide. So we don't have restrictions. I
don't have focus problems in the Father. I don't have lack of tech knowledge in
the Father. I don't have lack of content, lack of grace for mean comments in the
Father. I'm not stuck in my circumstances, my negative circumstances,
the ones that have nothing to do with my channel but are swirling around in
my life that want to keep me from being a kingdom messenger. Not in the Father. He
is my source for all things and that part of our journey, discovering that,
trusting that in deeper layers and levels is a lifelong process that we
should wholeheartedly embrace and treat every negative in our lives as an
opportunity to experience that at a deeper level. That's what we've been
doing this year. It is very real, guys. It's something that we are actively
walking in. Father, you are our source in all things. You are our source in all
things and that will keep you from feeling like it's all up to you to
maintain this or sustain this. I will tell you this and I think it's one of
the reasons why a lot of content creators burn out. Some people will
attribute it to the negative stuff of being a content creator like, oh well
it's the trolls and it's you know trying to keep up with all the things or
anything like that. I think that's part of it too but I also think that content
creators get to a place where the awesome comments are not enough anymore
to motivate them. The fact that they have a million subscribers is not enough
anymore to keep them coming back and bringing content. Like all those external
factors, the things that feed our physical selves or
physiological, like our mind and our emotions, that are very real.
They give us the dopamine hits, the likes and the follows and the feed, the good
comments. At some point it's not enough anymore to keep us coming back, to keep
us wanting to show up. So let's disconnect ourselves from needing that
now and be fully spirit-led. Because that is the realm of where we truly live
in Christ and so we don't have to be dependent on any of the other factors,
good, bad or ugly. Because some of it's great. Some of the things about being a
content creator is awesome. You become people's heroes, right? It's like,
well this is really cool, people like me, right? It's gonna get to a place where
it's not enough anymore. Let's be spirit-led now. The Father is our
source for all things. All things. We can withstand any resistance because of that
truth. And so I hope tonight has been an encouragement for you guys. There is, we
are building this foundation. It is gonna be a solid foundation and so as we build,
it's gonna be fun. Like there's gonna be days where it's gonna be like not so fun.
But it will be delightful because we're resting in the delight of our Father who
delights in us, delights in what we're partnering with Him in. We're gonna break
ourselves free from old mindsets, old models, old molds. I feel like many of
you guys are coming like me out of a season of ministry burnout. The Lord is
wanting to redeem that and it's gonna be a multiplication effect. Guys, I am
preaching while I sleep. Let's talk about that for a second. Because my content is
getting views all over the world, even when I'm not going live. Because the
episodes are up, right? This is amazing. I don't have to travel to other
countries. I get to, I get to be my daughter's mom in this early season of
her life. I don't have to be on a plane going everywhere. Nothing wrong with that.
But I know me, it would totally burnt me out in the season of life that I'm in.
The Lord made a way. He went before me. This tool of technology is for kingdom
people. It's not the world's, it's ours. And we are going to use it
effectively. We are going to use it for transformation and impact. We are going
to take territory.
It's ours, it's ours for the taking and we hope that you want to be on this journey with us
as we continue to take ground on the digital landscape because we are just getting started.
Good, that's, we're super excited and guys we have, we've been doing this for a year and a half,
we have a number of resources that are available to you guys. We've got a lot of stuff that's free
because we just want to help as many people as possible. So if you're watching this on
KingdomMessenger.tv, you've already on kind of our hub of all things and if you're not,
go check out KingdomMessenger.tv. There's a ton of tech tutorials, there's a lot of content,
some of the things that Lindsay and I are sharing now. There's just a ton of videos you can go access
with a free account on there. So that's available, you can check out our YouTube channel
that's there. We have, I don't know, 12-1300 subscribers there that we are just sharing
things weekly like this training and others. We have a Facebook group that if you're watching
on Facebook, you already know there's about 1600 people in our side of our Facebook group that are
just sharing their content, encouraging each other just like this. So now we have all those things
are available and you can go check them out and they're all on our website and you can link to
them kind of wherever you are. But what we're doing in July is we're just providing a kind of
an extra boost of momentum, right? So throughout July, we're going to be doing trainings like this,
we're going to do another one next Tuesday at 8pm and then we're going to be doing potentially
a challenge at the end of the month that will be kind of two or three days just back-to-back
where we really try to get some of you guys launched into the next season. And then we're
going to go all in for August and September for an eight-week intensive. So if you're a member
or you've done any kind of intensive with us, you may know kind of what that's about. And the goal
is to just to get you essentially get some of these mindset things set up and get your account
set up, get you actually building those habits of being a kingdom messenger that's showing up
consistently, that's showing up to your who to figure out, you know, even who you're speaking
to, what your message is going to be. And so we're trying to dial all those things in and we found
that an intense eight-week sprint is so much more effective than if we take, you know, 12 months to
go do this, right? I think a lot of us would rather scale this up quickly, right, than to go and
draw this out for the next 12 months. So we found that you can build a lot of new habits, you can
build a lot of new learnings and kind of figure out that. And the cool thing, we've done it in
such a way where you don't have to be tech savvy, right? You don't have to have a fancy camera, you
can just use your phone. Most of our kingdom messengers are using the camera that's in their
pocket. That story of the content creator business guy that like bought the fancy equipment.
Yes, yeah. This is such a fun story because people don't believe us when we're like,
just use your phone. I'll try to remember the gist of it, but essentially. We'll paraphrase
the story to keep it short. He's done very well, you know, I think he was a nine-figure entrepreneur
or something and figured out that he was like, I'm going to go start doing content, I'm going to
coach people. So they went and invested like hundreds of thousands of dollars into their studio
and then they would create all this content and then he would start doing a few videos from his
phone while he was on the road. And those videos did so much better. Like they just, the ones that
he was doing, you know, on his phone. So he just kept doing it on his phone and they eventually
just like sold the studio. They spent hundreds of thousands of dollars. So you can do that and
people want authenticity. That's why, that's why it works because people want authenticity. And so
it's just something that we're kind of coming out of a, I'll say a ministry or church mindset where
the kind of the production value just kind of got better and better and better because we wanted
excellence because we wanted, you know, we were, we wanted, it was for, we're millennials. It was
for us. We did that. We did that. We wanted that. But I think there's been an evolution and there's,
we, there's nothing, we were raised in that. We were poured into that. So there's no,
there's no us bashing that. It's just, I think there's been an evolution, especially for this
next generation, Gen Z specifically is really desiring a little bit raw and authentic. And
we're seeing that in social media accounts. So all that to say, you don't need the fancy camera.
If you have a smartphone, have a webcam, you're ready to get started. So I'll just really quickly
just show you guys what that intensive looks like. You guys can go check this out. I'll drop the link
here in a minute. But you can go to the website and what, and all we're saying right now is if
you guys are thinking about it, if you're considering it, you're going to jump, jump on
the site. There's a, there's a link right here. You can click on, and it will take you right to
where you can actually book a call with us. So I'll show you what that looks like. You can actually
fill out a, a form here. You can pick a time on our calendar, and then we're going to show
up with you on a zoom call for about 20 minutes and just talk you through kind of what that,
what is what I want. We just really want to ask questions is what we're doing.
See if this is a good fit for you. Cause it is going to be a very intentional time.
And so we just wanna make sure that we can have
a conversation and make sure you have your question
answered and we feel like this is a good fit
for this next eight weeks.
And so typically what we'll do is we'll actually do,
we'll do a, like an application fee to make sure
the people who are applying are really serious.
We're gonna just, while we're in this July period,
we're just gonna let you guys go straight to a call.
If you're interested and you wanna talk to us,
just book the call.
We'll go ahead and drop that link below
and you guys can go ahead and do that.
And I'm gonna share that here.
And there's just a Calendly link.
You can click on it, you can book that call
and I'll drop that in for our Zoom people as well.
And then, yeah, go check it out.
All that's on the page.
I'm not gonna walk you through everything
that's involved there, but you can go check it out.
What's involved as far as what's included.
We have a number of bonuses.
This'll be our sixth time doing this, I think.
And so we've done, we've taken a number of people
through this process.
And we're gonna be live teaching basically twice a week.
So we're gonna do once a week where we're just doing
mindsets, content strategy, and then we're gonna do
a second call every week where we do just tech support.
Because there's a lot of things that people get stuck on,
which buttons to push and how to publish
and make sure that people actually get to watch their videos.
So we're gonna be doing, kind of doubling up,
doing two calls a week for about eight weeks.
And then we're gonna hopefully, if you're launching,
our goal, and we've seen many people do this,
is to go from zero to having a few thousand people
listening to you, a few thousand people
every week listening to you.
We've had people get as many as 10, 15,000 people
in those first weeks, and it's amazing.
If you've been thinking about doing this for a while,
this may be the time.
We feel like there's a season, there's a push
for us right now to kind of include a sprint like this
in the last part of the year.
This can happen very, very quickly.
This doesn't have to take years
to get to thousands of people.
This could take, honestly, eight weeks.
We're gonna show you some of the strategy
and the tech strategy that we used
to grow Lindsay's channel.
You grew actually to 10,000, I think,
in the first 90 days when we did.
And that was just us kind of figuring it out.
We would do it a lot better now.
That was two years ago that we did that.
That was us knowing nothing, and now we know some things.
Know some things.
So we wanna give you guys those shortcuts
and help you guys out.
So if you have any questions, just book a call.
We'd love to talk with you.
So if there's any questions on Zoom,
we'll open it up if you guys wanna do some Q&A
for maybe 15 minutes, 20 minutes or so.
Any questions or feedback on just what we discussed tonight.
Yeah, you can put up your Zoom hand,
and we'll just go.
If not, we'll give it a minute here.
Awesome.
Hey, Marcelle, I see you've unmuted.
She knows the drill.
I don't really have a question
as much as I am just really thankful
for what you shared tonight and that clarity.
Honestly speaking, the message that God had gave me,
I felt was so authentic.
And I, at some point, and I know it was just the enemy,
had me thinking it was just too raw.
It was too raw.
It was too genuine.
I knew there were lessons and things that God were giving me
but to, you know, amongst the group,
I felt like, you know, I don't fit this group.
And, but the beauty of it is, you know,
thank God I stand on what I know to be true.
I knew that wasn't the truth, although I knew what I felt.
And so I said, no, I'm gonna keep showing up.
I know this group is for me.
I know I'm supposed to be here.
And I know that God had released the message in me as,
and of course it's a process, it's a process message.
And, you know, a lot of people don't like process messaging.
And so I just wanted to thank you
because I sincerely feel liberated.
I sincerely feel free.
And, and I just think the timing is everything.
And it just kind of came at,
is coming at a time that is just really so enriching.
So I just wanted to thank you for that.
And to know that, you know, like I said,
I'm gonna be here.
I love that.
Thank you, Marcella.
That's awesome.
So good.
I've loved to, and that's,
what's been so cool about being in community
is to be able to be with Marcella in this process.
It's been really cool.
I know I mentioned this to you in a call a few weeks ago,
but just to see the transformation.
And I said, you probably have seen the transformation
in Bruce and I as well,
cause you've been with us from,
you're like one of the OGs from the very beginning.
So that's what's cool too, guys,
is we get to see each other's transformation in community
and there's just nothing like it.
It's so fun.
It's so free.
That's so good.
Well, we will, if we missed any questions, we'll go back in the Facebook comments, we'll
go read through that and respond there.
If you guys had questions while you're watching, just drop them in there and tag us.
We'll be happy to respond there.
I know some people are going to be watching the replay.
They're not watching the slide.
They're going to watch the replay, so we'll kind of stick in the comments and you can
just tag either of us to make sure we see it.
We're going to be back.
I know it's Wednesday this week, not to confuse you, but next Tuesday, 8 p.m. Eastern time,
we're going to be doing another training and leading into, oh, Laura has something
to, she has her hand up.
Go for it.
Yeah.
I didn't see your hand, Laura.
I'm sorry.
No worries.
Can you see me?
Yes.
Okay.
I was listening while I was making dinner and eating.
I wanted to just share something really, I don't know, just funny, okay?
I had to, I think this was yesterday, I had to fill out some kind of a form.
I was registering for a conference and one, it was an online form and one of the things
they asked me was, are you currently serving in ministry?
And I knew what they were getting at.
They were wanting to know who are the pastors in the room.
And so this was kind of a moment for me, I'm like, okay, I really am serving in ministry.
Not the way probably they're asking and they're thinking, but I'm going to own it.
And so I said, yes, I'm serving in ministry.
And they said, what's the name of your ministry?
I said, go up higher podcast.
And then they said, what is your title?
And I thought for a minute, I'm like, okay, well I'll put kingdom messenger slash creator.
And then I thought, no, I'm going to just put kingdom messenger.
So this is funny.
That was totally the Holy spirit.
I didn't really know what I was doing, but I knew it was important to own.
This really is a ministry.
You know, you really are serving in ministry when you are creating kingdom content to minister.
You're trying to receive God's now message.
What is he saying through you, you know, regarding your topic now and feed that to the people.
So I don't know.
I just, um, it's, it's not conventional.
It's outside of the box.
I think in how the church and how we are trained to think what ministry really is.
First of all, story makes my heart so happy.
Yes.
Oh, Laura.
I love that.
It is unconventional to your point.
It is unconventional.
And this is part of being a pioneer.
We've said from the beginning, like we are a community of pioneers.
Like we're, we're doing new things.
And so it's kind of like, we're writing the script as we go.
Yeah.
And that's fine.
And it's a little scary.
I'm going to show unconventional.
You know, I'm going to show up at this, you know, thing or whatever, they'll probably
have like a little name badge on me or something or a Han, you know, friend go up higher podcast.
I love it.
And I think you're going to have some great conversations because of that.
Right.
Hey, Xavier, I see your hand.
I wasn't going to say anything, but Laura, thank you for sharing.
Because that just so touches my heart because, you know, for a while I, well, I've always
known my whole life that the Lord was calling me to, to something and, you know, whether
it was traditional pastorship, I just knew I've known for years, it was never going to
look like what anybody else looks like.
Okay.
I was not going to pastor of church.
You know, I've been, you know, in that environment before.
And I just knew that's not what God was calling me to.
So, you know, and I know that the only thing I knew when I really started talking to people
about it a few years ago, it says was, it was not going to look like anything anybody
else has seen before, you know, in most of these traditional church structures.
So I just, it just really warms my heart to hear, to hear Laura and, and know that she's
just owning that because that's what God is calling to.
It's what I've been telling others as well.
God is reaching down and raising up his own people to do his own thing.
So individuals, groups, tribes, and it's going to be from the bottom up.
It's not gonna be from the top down.
So, you know, this is what's going on.
And you guys are an inspiration for just really enabling so many people, okay, to do what
God is calling them to do and have influence, you know, and have speak to their spheres
of influence.
You know, it's really that that's really what it's all about.
Because even if, as you pointed out, even if we have the same message, we are speaking
to different people.
And we can speak to them in a way that other people can't speak to them.
That's why they're in our sphere of influence.
So, you know, I just wanted to just kind of share that and say thank you.
I love that.
And I say yes and amen to that for you, Xavier, for us and for everyone else that's, that's
a part of this community that feels.
feels that same pull to do something different or something that feels very unknown or something
that doesn't necessarily fit in the traditional box.
We have been so blessed by the foundation that was laid for us in what was and how the
church has been, but we feel like there's something more.
And one of the words that the Lord gave us was that he was going to be accelerating what
had been accumulating.
So we feel that.
We feel like what you're sharing, what Laura's sharing is like, there's something more.
We feel like the Lord is giving people who would not have traditional titles in a traditional
ministry platform and influence, like you're saying, and that's the way it's always supposed
to be.
And I think the problem, and I want to be very careful with how we talk about this,
it's just that it was in a box.
It was just a box.
It was a certain box.
So there's only so much room in that box, right?
There's only so many people that could be on stage at one time or could do certain things.
And so I think that's why the Lord is like breaking that box open so that we're building
further, farther, faster, wider.
And I love that he's using technology to do that because the enemy thinks that he has
won this game with technology and it ain't so.
The kingdom is taking technology on and this is our tool to advance our kingdom, not the
other way around.
Yeah.
That's it.
Amen.
Well, thank you for everyone who shared.
We're excited to be back with you guys next Tuesday, 8 p.m. Eastern time.
And we're going to be talking more about this and talking more about what it's like to live
a lifestyle of breakthrough.
Awesome, guys.
We'll see you there.
Talk soon.
Have a great rest of your night.
Bye.