Hey guys, how's everybody doing?
We're just doing a little challenge 411.
Nice.
Oh, we got a loaded house.
Come on.
That's so good.
We got some alumni.
Oh my gosh.
I love these people.
You guys are amazing.
Yeah, I love the alums.
They're so good at what they do too.
Let me take like, actually, let me take a second, take one or two shares.
Hey, alums, can you just kind of share maybe how you're implementing what you're doing,
what you've learned in the challenge, like into your real life, like maybe into your
coaching or into your company?
Like Crystal, would you mind sharing?
Because you're like ridiculously brilliant in IP.
Like I see your questions and you're really good.
So could you take like a moment and just kind of share with how you're implementing this
stuff actually in your own business?
Absolutely.
Thanks.
You know, guys, I have to tell you, Peter's information has transformed even the way I
coach and all the people that I'm working with for clients, especially in the tech industry,
creative industry, helping them understand technology itself and how to launch that on
their business.
Most of them have no idea about how to protect anything that they're bringing to the table
and they're out there sharing all their ideas.
And we all think that's great, but it's not.
And so even my own kiddo has an idea and I've had to stop her from talking about it to other
people because we want that to get protected.
So I mean, there are things that you just don't even realize that you're just chatting
with people about and all those ideas that you create on a napkin, you know, over dinner,
they need to get protected pretty quickly to make sure that they're safe.
And, you know, I just especially this one client comes to mind and she already had a
patent and she ended up selling and in the opportunity of how she sold and as she shared
some information with me, you know, some things became very questionable.
And I directed her back to Peter in this challenge.
I said, you really need to go sit through that because I think something went awry.
And so just to have this much knowledge that Peter shared with us, because I am nowhere
close to where Peter is.
Holy moly, I can't even imagine the wisdom that he brings to the table as you guys just
interact with him and the VIP and ongoing.
It's well worth your time and energy, guys.
But just that little knowledge really shed light to what she had signed and then made
her question a lot of things.
And so if we can just bring one nugget of truth to our clients, to our own business,
man, it's going to be radically different as we move forward and it's going to be well
protected in the future.
Wow, that's so good.
Yeah. And Crystal doesn't give herself enough credit because Crystal thinks of like
scenarios. She sees how they break down.
So she sees the parties that are being interacted with, the different entities of of IP,
like how copyright and trademark are intermingling.
And it's it's actually pretty amazing, Crystal.
So, yeah, I'm just applaud you.
You you've impressed me.
I've seen your posts in the group.
They're impressive.
So that's really good.
Maybe I'll take, hey, Helene, can you kind of share a little bit about like what you've
learned and how you've applied it in your own in your own life, maybe just for like one
minute? Well, the first thing I did was put TMS on all my designs.
I already had copyrights on things, but I didn't put TMS.
See on the background there, there's a little TM on there someplace.
Come on. That's awesome.
That is awesome.
Zoom in on the background, but I don't think I can do that.
Oh, that's great. And you're very active in the NFT field as well.
I've seen you doing a lot with Eric.
And so, you know, and I imagine the stuff because today we're going to go through
copyright. So I'd imagine a number of the things that we're going to be talking about
today for anybody here is dealing with NFTs like Helene is dealing with NFTs.
Today's a really important day.
And so thank you for sharing, Helene.
So I think I'm going to jump into copyright, but I want to kind of set the
context for a moment.
Copyright is not remarkably difficult, but.
It applies in a lot of different areas, like areas that you never even thought of.
And so it's really important to understand what exactly could copyright pertain
to. OK, so just let me touch base just kind of at a top level of what a copyright
is, and then we'll talk about what's potentially protectable by copyright.
And as I do that, Jimmy, I have you particularly in mind.
because I know you have a book coming out.
And so there's actually copyright issues and trademark issues.
So what you're going to find today is that while I'm talking about copyright,
I'm going to draw in some trademark stuff too.
So I'm going to show you how in IP, it's not always just one area of IP
that pertains to your scenario.
There may be two or three different areas that pertain to your one scenario.
And so you're going to see a lot of proof of that today.
Okay. Are you guys ready to go?
All right, let's do that.
All right.
So just one second before we do that deep dive, I have to kind
of mention the Facebook activity that we did together, how we described that guy
who just looked way too happy, if such a thing exists.
So I read through all of the different responses, and I picked a winner.
It doesn't mean it's better than others.
It just made me laugh.
And it actually showed that the person understood certain principles that we talked about.
And so the winner for the, if we had a drum roll, we'd do that.
But the winner is Jessica Madden.
And the reason why is because her response says, he just got served a cease and desist.
But he's smiling because under common law, he's good to keep running his business
in the city he loves.
I thought that was brilliant, like absolutely brilliant.
It applies like multiple different principles, you know, the common law issue,
the infringement issue, the trademark issue.
I just thought, wow, that's good.
So congratulations, Jess.
You won the first $50 Amazon gift card.
Give it up.
Way to go, Jess.
Way to go.
It's so good.
I'm so proud of you.
You're awesome.
And then today, about halfway in, I'm going to raffle off, not like, Ray, are you ready
with the wheel thing?
All right, awesome.
So about halfway through, I'm going to raffle off what's called an electronic business card.
Okay.
Now, the electronic business card, the way it's a metallic card, the one that I'm raffling
off is actually one that's made out of refurbished wood or bamboo.
And all you do is you put it over somebody's cell phone and all of your information just
pops up on their cell phone.
It's automated.
Yeah, there you go.
John's got one.
Come on, John.
That's awesome.
Yeah, there it is.
So all you do is you put it over their phone and it just shows up.
They don't even have to scan it.
And so it's really an awesome thing.
We're going to give one of those away today about halfway through.
All right.
So with that, even though we're all anticipating that, let's jump into copyrights a little
bit. Copyrights are not remarkably difficult.
And in my opinion, they're way underused, like way underused.
You actually have certain rights under copyright law that you don't even know you have.
Like even right now, like if you're publishing certain works, you have rights under
copyright law without even knowing it.
And so people need to understand what exactly are the rights that I have.
So let's talk about what a copyright is first.
OK, so a copyright gives you some kind of right to some original work of authorship
that's fixed in some kind of tangible medium.
Now, some people might go, what in the world does that mean?
That's like legal garbage, like tangible medium, like fixed, like authorship, like
what in the world does that mean?
So we're going to break it down.
OK, I'm going to start out by giving you examples of things that are protectable.
Under copyright law, there's just going to list them out like one by one by one by
one so you can see them all.
And you know what I'll do?
I'm actually going to share my screen because if I can share my screen, I can just
show it to you or just make your lives a lot easier.
So we're just going to pop that up right there.
Can everybody see these categories of protectable works?
Awesome. OK.
So you know what I'm going to do for you is I'm going to actually put this what I
try to do for you as you're here is to make it so that you can interact, you can
enjoy yourself and you don't have to write four million notes, you know, because
some of us are good note takers, but sometimes it's hard to keep up with the
hearing and the writing.
So I'm going to take this and I'm going to put it in the Facebook group for you.
OK. And if you don't have access to Facebook, don't worry.
Just DM me or email support at elite-challenges.com and we'll take this and we'll
send the file to you directly so you don't have to worry about if you don't have
access to Facebook or if you, you know, you you actually have come to the reality
that it's run by an alien nation trying to take over the world.
If you come to.
reality and you don't use it, that's okay, we can email it to
you. Alright, so you'll be fine. Alright, so with that, let's go
into different categories of protectable works under
copyright law. So the first one is literary works. So somebody
type in the chat what you think is a literary work that might be
protectable by copyright. Okay, just like, right, boom, Aurelio
book. Exactly. Boom, poem, poetry. April's here. April
Parsons. Come on. So good lyrics novel. Yeah, you guys are
nailing it. Oh, all right. Now Axel decided to show off. Okay,
I'm just gonna say Axel decided to show off. So he said
computer source code. So Axel clearly is a professor of
intellectual property law already. But he's exactly
right. Computer soft code software is protectable by
copyright. Okay. Alright, so the first one here is literary
works, books, poems, manuals, websites, hear this, please hear
this. Websites, funnels, you guys that are running
challenges that are getting tired of people copying the
material from your funnel, and just throwing it on theirs
without doing any of the hard work that you've done. That's
all protectable by copyright. You can send them a
communication that says, Hey, you can't do that. That's my
copyright of a work. And one of the things I'm going to show you
is the copyright notice. Yes, exactly. The rest of brochures
as well. The copyright notice itself. If you put that on your
website or on your funnel, that's so valuable, because now
you're telling the public, hey, I have certain legal rights to
my website or my funnel. Okay, or even your blog that's
protectable by copyright as well. Okay, so putting that
notice there is very important. And I'm going to show you how to
use a notice properly. Another thing that's protectable is
musical works, musical works. So if you're thinking of like
songs, now, some of you might be thinking, well, what about
TikTok, all these people that are going live and going
becoming viral? You know, those people there? What about their,
their musical works? Well, the fact of the matter is they do
have certain rights under copyright law. So when somebody
comes in there, and just takes their videos and goes and does
whatever they want, whatever, that's actually copyright
infringement. When somebody goes and takes their musical work,
their songs, that's copyright infringement. Okay, so TikTok is
actually a nightmare when it comes to IP. Because if you post
something in TikTok, do you realize on the bottom right,
there's this little record that's spinning, you can click
on that and take the audio of that video and then take their
audio and put it onto your own video. That's copyright
infringement. All of that is copyright. So they're, they're
literally inducing you to infringe. It's pretty bad, but
nobody's doing anything about it. Because quite frankly, it's
just a fun platform. So nobody cares. Separate from that, from
that dramatic works. If some of you do choreography, that's also
covered pantomimes. If you guys are into this thing, like that,
you know, that's protected too. I know it was bad, right? Just
extend a little mercy. All right. It's okay. All right.
Separate from that pictures. So if you're a photographer, okay,
if you take
Wait, I missed it. I want to see that again.
Oh, that has to be April. That's April, isn't it? April, this is
just for you. Okay, April. It's just for you. All right. There
you go. All right.
Actually, that was our residence dance instructor, Holly.
I love that.
Thank you.
April's my sister. So she's, she has some funny comments that
she'll make. All right, separate from that. So like foot
photography, protectable by copyright. If you're a graphic
artist, and you render graphical, like any, let's say
like NFTs, they start out as drawings, then you give it to a
graphic artist, and they render those into a computer rendered
image. There's rights associated with that as well. Motion
pictures, sound recordings, architectural works, all of
those are protectable by copyright. Okay, so do you see
how broad the spectrum is for copyright, everything from books
to movies, to paintings, the last challenge we did, we had a
ton of prophetic artists that were here, all of their works,
you know, many of them weren't protecting any of their works
through copyright law. So we trained them and how to do that.
And now they are like Lynn actually has trained her her
classes, all of her students and how to protect their works
through copyright law. And now you can do that as well. So just
make sure you understand that you have
and rights to these works under copyright law.
Now, let me show you how your notice is supposed to look.
Now, I saw it was actually put in the chat, so I'm going to put it
in the chat, a little different from what was posted.
Hopefully, it grabs the circle C. Oh, it does.
Okay. Okay.
That's a proper copyright notice, okay?
What you don't do is you don't write copyright, then the circle C,
because that's saying copyright, copyright, right?
The circle C is copyright.
Now, it doesn't mean you're going to get in trouble and somebody's going to get mad at you
or you can't enforce your rights if you do a circle C and copyright, but it's not necessary
because the circle C is copyright.
So, you do circle C, then the date in which you added your new material, okay?
So, sometimes you'll see a range.
Sometimes you'll see somebody say 2020-2022.
So, that means in 2020, 2021, and 2022, you added new material.
So, therefore, in your copyright notice, it says the word you're looking for is redundant.
Yes, the word is redundant.
That's correct, April.
That's right.
So, it is redundant if you say copyright, copyright.
So, now you've got the circle C or the word copyright, and then you have the date.
Now, let me talk about the last part, the Jane Doe thing, all right?
That should be listing the entity or the person who owns the mark.
Yes, Cecil nailed it, the individual's name or the company's name.
That's exactly right, Cecil, okay?
So, remember how we talked about ownership of IP and how it's taxed
at a different tax bracket and how it's a corporate expense, and you have to determine whether
or not you want it in your name or do you want it in the name of an entity for multiple reasons,
maybe to make sure you don't run into liability issues or to make sure that you don't run
into other tax issues or whatever the case may be, all right?
So, if you're trying to make sure that you assign it
over to an entity, then the entity name should be there, okay?
Just like Shisho said, She-Seal.
She-Seal, can you unmute?
It auto-tricked me.
Cecil, Cecil.
Thank you so much, thank you.
No worry.
I want to make sure I say your name right.
So, just like Cecil said, it was exactly right, okay?
So, just make sure that if you're with a company but you're keeping the assets in your name,
don't list the name of the entity, because the second you do that, you're telling the public
that it's owned by the entity, and then you might run into problems
when you're trying to, you know, enforce.
There's no reason for that, so make sure you do that properly, okay?
Was that pretty simple?
Everybody follow that?
I want everybody here who has a funnel, who has a book, who has a painting, who has a drawing,
who has a sculpture, okay, who has musical works, who has compositions,
use the marking for your copyright on it.
Do it today.
Like, start using it.
The reason why you're doing this is you're placing the public on notice as to your ownership rights.
Now, why do you care?
Why is that a big deal?
The reason why that's a big deal is because when it comes to damages,
proving damages, you want to be able to show that the other person knew about the infringement, okay?
They knew that you had certain rights, okay?
So, having that notice there is essentially placing the public on notice
as to your own personal legal rights, because what if I'm kind of, I see your stuff,
and I just grab it, and then all of a sudden, you sue me, and you say, hey,
I had certain rights to that.
Now, yes, legally, you do, but when it comes to court, I'm going to bring up arguments like, well,
what she basically said was stuff that's common knowledge.
It's nothing new, and if she actually believed that she had some kind of rights to it,
well, she should have used a copyright notice.
Now, do you need to use a copyright notice?
No. The law is very clear.
You don't specifically have to use a copyright notice, but here's the thing.
Would you rather spend money paying your lawyer
so that your lawyer can spend more time proving your case so that you actually win damages,
or would you like to take the five seconds it takes to actually put the notice there
so that it's done for you?
So, a lot of what I'm teaching you here is it's not just are you going to win a case
Or are you not going to win a case?
Because that's what a lot of lawyers will teach you.
They'll say, there's Black, there's white.
I'm sorry, but the law is very gray.
Now, it's a good lawyer's job to make things Black or white
based on the position that their client's in.
But in law, I can take a situation
when I can create new case law.
And I've done that.
In Massachusetts, I created brand new case law
only four years ago.
The only case like it, when it came
to transferring of a case from the Southern District
of California into Massachusetts,
the very first case that happened in the manner
in which that case happened.
So I created case law.
So you don't want to spend money helping.
You don't want to spend money in the area
where your lawyers are trying to get you damages.
Because as you're doing that, you're
losing the money you're going to make.
And the fact of the matter is, you're using copyright notices
not to make money, really.
It's to stop people from stealing your stuff.
Because we're not here just so that we can go sue people.
We're here to stop people from taking our stuff.
Does that make sense?
Yeah, good.
All right.
All right, so let me talk to you about a few other things.
What kind of rights do you get?
I'm going to share my screen again.
And I'm going to put this tonight.
I'll put this in the group as well.
So you don't have to worry if you don't write this down
fast enough, OK?
These are the different rights that you
have with a copyright.
You are the only one who is allowed
to reproduce that work, the only one, OK?
That means if you create a painting,
nobody else can make a copy of that painting, period.
Now, if you create an NFT, a drawing for an NFT,
nobody can convert that drawing into a computer-rendered image.
Because that is, in fact, a derivative work.
That's the second thing.
It's a modification of the original work
into another form.
Or it's just a modification of the original work in general.
That's so similar to the first one
that it's clear that it was derived from the first.
That's where the word derivative comes from.
It means it was derived from the original work.
Now, just out of curiosity before I go further,
does anybody here know, like the alums can't answer this.
Alums can't answer this because you're
going to know the answer to this, OK?
Does anybody here know what's in the background of the Mona Lisa?
Axel, unmute.
Let's see if you got this one.
I just know that there's a landscape.
But I don't know exactly what it represents.
Yes, very good.
That's very good.
You're the first person in four challenges
who actually knew that.
Really well done.
So it is a landscape.
There's a body of water that's going through the landscape.
Now, who here cares?
No, I don't care.
It's like the Mona Lisa is about her face, right?
That's the essence of the work.
So the thing that you own in a copyright
is what's the essence of the work, OK?
So if it's a painting, there's an essence to the painting,
all right?
So the background may not be important.
So if somebody copies the background,
chances of their infringing is very low.
Well, if they copied the face of the Mona Lisa,
the chances are very high.
Obviously, the Mona Lisa has been around a long time
so that the copyright's expired.
You can copy her face all you want, OK?
You're not going to get in trouble.
But the fact of the matter is that most people don't
know what's in the background.
So that tells you that's not the essence of the copyright.
Therefore, the chances are very high
that if you're using that part, you're
not infringing because it's not really
the essence of the copyright.
Does that make sense?
So every copyrighted work has an essence.
There's some kind of essence to it.
Paintings are very easy to figure out.
Musical works, they're a little less easy to figure out.
But I'm going to put in the Facebook group tonight one,
two, I'll see if I put in two different examples of where
there clearly was copyright infringement.
Does everybody remember Vanilla Ice?
Ice, ice, baby, right?
You remember that?
Yeah.
Dum, dum, dum, doo, doo, dum, dum.
You guys remember that?
All right.
Now, that exact beat, if you looked at the queen,
queen actually had a song.
And it didn't go dum, dum, dum, dum, doo, doo, dum, dum.
Dum, dum, dum, dum, doo, doo, dum, dum.
The way it went was dum, dum, dum, dum, doo, dum, dum.
Dum, dum, dum, dum, doo, dum, dum, right?
That's the way it went.
Now, what Vanilla Ice did was he quote, unquote,
changed it. Now you tell me if this this if this captures the
essence of what I told you in the beginning, right? So
remember, the original work by Queen was dum dum dum dum dum
dum dum dum dum dum dum dum dum, right? Vanilla Ice did
this. Dum dum dum dum dum dum dum dum dum dum dum dum dum. Is
there copyright infringement or not? Yes. All right. He paid $4
million to these people to make them go away essentially. Because
instead of coming up with his own work, he copied the essence
of the other party's work. Okay? That's how you kind of determine
whether or not there's some infringement. So let's go back
into the rights that you have under copyright law. Let me
share my screen again. Okay. Share. Okay, here we go. So the
right to reproduce the work, you have the right and a reproduction
is like the exact copy. That's a reproduction. But then there's
the right to create derivative works, which are slight
modifications. So imagine taking the Mona Lisa and putting
a mustache on her, right? Or giving her like one glove like
Michael Jackson, right? That would be a derivative work.
That's not an original work. It's a slight modification to
the original. Okay. All right. Separate from that, to
distribute copies to the public. That's another right that only
you have the right to perform the work. Holly's here, I
believe. She's amazing at dancing. So she comes out with
some kind of, let's say choreographed work, and
somebody else grabs it and decides to perform it
themselves. They are infringing upon her own copyright. Okay,
the right to publicly display the work. So if you have a
painting, people have got to hear this because people do this
wrong all the time. You have your own original painting.
Somebody goes and they purchase that, but then they go and they
display it. And they charge admission to see it. You can
run into copyright issues there. Now there's the first sale
doctrine. So now somebody has actually purchased something,
they own it, but you own it for personal reasons. Not that you
don't own the original artistic work. All artists own the
original work. They are the only ones who have the right to
display. There are certain rights that you get when you
purchase a work from an artist, but you do not obtain the right
to publicly display and charge people 1000 people to walk into
your home to actually see the painting. Those are rights that
go back to the original artist. In the case of sound recordings
to perform them publicly. I'll give you an example of that,
which is pretty painful. You ever walk into a bar or a
restaurant is playing music. Yeah, you cannot play music in a
public forum without getting sued by BMI or ASCAP. Second,
you start doing that, and people are like it's a paid
establishment, or you have a nightclub and you're playing
music, right? And it's not your original work, you're playing
somebody else's work. That's copyright infringement. I used to
represent BMI, like back in the day. So they would send these
cease and desist letters out all the time, say, hey, stop playing
the music in the bar and send me a check for $2,500. Okay, and
then we'll go away. Or you can take a license from us. Now, I'm
going to give you a practical example. And then we're going to
go into some more detail. I had somebody reached out to me, this
was a number of years ago. And the person was really, really
upset, like really upset. His name was Bill. And Bill said,
I've got a website that I create for for dentists. Like, that's
what I do. I create websites for dentists. That's my money. That's
where I make all my cheddar, right. And so he said that all
of a sudden, people were copying his website. They were just
grabbing the material. So all of a sudden, like his sales were
decreasing and decreasing and decreasing. And he says, what
can I do about this? And he's don't do I have trademark rights
that Nope. He says, well, it's an original website, don't have
patent rights. I said, Nope. And so he said, Well, what can I do?
And I said, we're going to file a copyright on the website. We're
just going to print off each page of the website. I'm going
to file that as a copyright. And we did. And then we sent cease
and desist letters to other parties with a copy of the
federal registration. And everybody backed off. Everybody.
Okay, he also made a demand for certain funds up front, because
he wanted to pay his attorney's fees. And so people were cutting
them checks for 2500 $1,500, just because they were
infringing. So when you go out there, and you look at somebody's
funnel, or you see somebody's website, don't think you can
just grab what they have. All right, because if they
understand copyright law, you can run into
serious problems very fast, okay?
And you're personally gonna have your own notice on there
so you don't run into this anymore.
Now, one other thing on that site that he had,
he had a picture of his wife's teeth.
I don't know why he did that.
I mean, what possesses you one day
to put your wife's teeth on a website?
I don't know.
But he was very upset that his wife's teeth
were on the website.
So I said, well, Bill,
maybe you shouldn't put your wife's teeth on the website.
That didn't really go well with him,
but then what we do is we file a copyright application
for his wife's teeth, like the picture.
I know this sounds silly,
but then everybody who actually had
taking a copy of that picture,
we send a cease and desist letter,
they all stopped immediately.
They all stopped, okay?
All right, I see a really good question here by Lisa.
So it says, if I do a prayer group online
and play music in the background, oh boy.
Oh, we play music.
Okay, I'm gonna give you an example of this
that's gonna answer your question.
Yes, it's a copyright infringement issue, okay?
The question is, is anybody ever gonna enforce it?
That's really what it comes down to, right?
But here's what happens.
I used to go live all the time.
A number of people here that know me,
I go live on YouTube and I do ministry work, right?
So I'd have some music in the background,
I have some Bethel music running,
or I'd have some William Augusto.
Oh, I love William Augusto.
I'd have that running in the background, right?
To set the atmosphere.
Then I'd pray for the sick or I'd minister to other people.
And then the video would be there.
You know what would happen immediately?
I get a notice from YouTube.
My video was flagged for copyright infringement, okay?
You do not have the right to use
somebody else's musical works to make your own video works.
Don't have the right for that.
Now, for personal consumption,
you can all day long listen to music for yourself,
but if you're now going to have a situation where people pay
or it's part of a service
and using somebody else's musical work,
you can run into copyright infringement issues.
This is why people, what they do is there are websites
that have either royalty free music
or they get a subscription to something like Spotify
or YouTube Premium, YouTube Platinum,
where you can play things nonstop.
Like I have a playlist on YouTube that's very long.
And since I have the higher level of YouTube,
I have no commercials and it just plays.
And it plays nonstop.
Now, I'm not perfect just to be clear.
When I do ministry events, I'm playing worship music
and I'm an IP attorney, okay?
So I'm not telling you to commit copyright infringement.
I'm just telling you that I am playing it in the background.
But if you make a copy of that video
and you store it somewhere, that's copyright infringement
and that's proof of your copyright infringement.
So what does YouTube do?
YouTube, they flag your video
and they make it so that your video
can't have ads run on it.
That's the remedy that they actually have.
But they also notify the owner of the copyright.
So if the owner of the copyright so chooses,
they can actually reach out to you and say,
hey, you owe me X amount of money
or you need to stop using this immediately.
So this is why, you know,
there are certain ministries
that will allow you to use their music.
It's beneficial to figure out who those people are.
Or there's certain royalty-free music bodies out there.
You can use those as well.
Tomorrow, I'm gonna talk about something
that'll make your life a lot easier
because I actually post in there
these royalty-free places to obtain music,
to obtain images, where to do searches.
I mean, tons and tons of stuff for everybody.
We'll talk about that tomorrow, okay?
So make sure you hit tomorrow.
You guys are gonna wanna be here tomorrow.
All right, let's talk a little bit more
about copyright so far.
This isn't so difficult, right?
Copyright's not really that tough.
It's just that most people don't realize
what's coverable by copyright.
Now, we have a number of people here who are authors, okay?
If you're an author, raise your hand.
If you write books, yeah, we got a lot of authors here.
Okay, all right.
I'm gonna talk about how copyright
and trademark work together for authors, okay?
So in a single work, in a single book, one book,
look at all these things that can apply.
The picture on the front of the book,
somebody type in the chat what that.
potentially protectable by? Just the picture.
Copyright. That's right. The picture itself, that picture that's the drawing or the painting,
that is protectable by copyright. Now, some people mentioned trademark. Let me talk a little
bit about that. If there's a logo on the book, that may be protectable by what people are saying,
trademark. If you got a logo on the book, which isn't that common, but sometimes people have a
logo on the book, make sure you got your TM or your circle R there. Now, the title of the book,
I'm not going to ask you this question because everybody gets it wrong. I'm going to spare
everybody. People think they can get a trademark for a title of a book.
It's extremely difficult to get a trademark for a title of a book unless it's a series. Type in
the chat series. S-E-R-I-E-S. Series. Exactly. Series, series, series. If you have like
Lord of the Rings or something else that has a series of books and that title is consistently
utilized, then you can apply for a trademark for the title because copyright does pertain to
titles. I'm not copyright. Trademarks do pertain to titles of books for a series,
but if it's a one-off, good luck. It's not happening. Examiners will reject it all day long
because they don't believe there's enough strength behind it. You can try. It's just
extremely difficult. Harry Potter. Thank you, April. Harry Potter is the other one.
All these different versions of satanic teaching. I mean, of teaching that's in there. All those
versions that are in there. That's a series covered by copyright. Subliminal messages.
Okay. Really? That's hilarious. All right. We're not done yet. We're not done yet.
Now, you open the book. What should you see on that first page?
Copyright notice. Grisna said it exactly right. Copyright notice should be right there,
either on the back of the front page or around the front page, first or second page.
Copyright notice should be bam, circle C, date, and whoever owns it. Now,
for those of you that are authors, you got to be careful about something here, all right?
If you're working with a publisher, be careful what you sign. I'm telling you this now because
I care about all of you. You can sign off all right title and interest to your book by a single
signature. You need to read that document that you're signing when you're working with a publisher
because I guarantee you in there, it's talking about copyright law. It's going to say,
I hereby assign all right title and interest to such and such book, including all copyrightable
works, blah, blah, blah. It's all in there. You just need to read it or you need somebody boring
like a lawyer to read it. Okay. One or two, but you need to look at that language.
And why is that important? If you assign all right title and interest to your book over to
another party, you have zero rights left. So for those of you that are writing a book and
you're thinking, well, the book's not going to be made into a movie or I'm going to make that book
into a series, but you assigned all right title and interest to that original book over another
party, another entity. Nope. Because your next book in the series is actually a derivative work
of the original. So you're committing copyright infringement based on your own work. I mean,
this happens in real life. This is why I'm telling you authors here, be careful when you're working
with publishers, be careful when you're working with like clearing houses, when you're working
with individuals that are going to, even when you do it online, read the fine print as to what you
are signing away. Is this helping you guys who are authors? Yeah. All right. I don't want a
situation where I get a DM or a phone call and somebody's panicking where obviously I'm always
going to be there for you, right? I'm not saying I'm not going to be there. I'm just saying, I
don't want to see you suffer in this way because I've seen people lose everything. And then here's
the thing with authors. And it's the same thing with artists. And it's the same thing with computer
graph. It's a little less for software code. Well, no, I'm a nerd. I take that back. Us nerdy
code writers, artists, people that are writing books, all of you.
The created work is our baby.
I don't know if I'm
the only one who actually feels like that,
but when I create a work, it's my baby.
I don't mean my physical baby,
I'm not that crazy, but it is very important to me.
I don't want somebody else just grabbing
this thing and doing whatever they want with it.
You've got to be careful
what legal documents you're signing.
You've got to be really careful.
I know I'm harping on this a lot,
but I get the phone calls every week,
where people are like, what do I do now?
The company that I actually created the book for
says that they're going to do
this and they won't give me any money for this,
or the company that I created
the NFT for is not paying
me for any of the royalties associated with the sales.
Yeah, that's right.
You have to understand the rights.
If you're an artist and you're creating NFTs,
you have way more power than you actually know.
Way more power.
Because that computer-generated artistic work
actually is a derivative of your original work.
When they actually sell that NFT on the market in OpenSea,
that's actually selling of
your original work that came off of
the derivative work that should come to your pocket.
You need to negotiate upfront,
because if you don't do it upfront,
I guarantee there's going to be a company out there
that knows you don't know what you do,
because they have somebody like me,
who's there, who's actually telling them this stuff.
Now you know it, so take care of it.
What is NFT?
Great question.
Non-fungible token.
I'll publish something in the Facebook group.
I'll put something in the Facebook group that'll
make it a little easier for you,
a little video that I'll train.
Eric, next time he's doing his challenge,
I'll actually post it in the Facebook group as well.
His challenge is amazing when it comes to what an NFT is,
how to use NFTs,
how to make money off NFTs,
how to create NFTs.
He has an incredible challenge on that.
I actually come in as a guest for him and teach on that as well.
Let's take a break right here.
Ray, are you ready?
I am.
Now, Ray has brand new Internet, which is amazing.
Great. That's awesome.
Let's go ahead and run this.
This is for the electronic business card.
All right.
Let's go ahead and run.
In all fairness, guys,
I'm floating in the middle of the ocean.
Can you guys see my screen?
Yes.
Looks good.
It's spinning.
Let's see what stops on.
Anthony.
Is Anthony here?
Yes, there you are.
Anthony is here.
Congratulations.
All right. Awesome.
Awesome.
Do you have one of these?
I don't have.
So look at what we're going to happen now.
So I have actually a company that's shipping from USA to Georgia.
So I will send my address from this warehouse
and then it will come to me here across Europe.
I'll totally take care of you.
Don't worry about it.
Awesome, man. Thank you so much.
Any way I have to get it to you, I'm getting it to you.
I had a feeling I would win actually today.
I don't know why I just had an English.
Well, it's good you didn't say anything.
So you didn't mess it up.
You know, it's good.
It's really good.
Because then everybody would thought this was fixed, you know?
Wow.
All right. Let's stop sharing your screen for the moment, please.
Thank you. And we'll jump back in.
OK, let's turn this.
And there's there's another there are two more awards.
One is another $50 gift certificate for Amazon.
And then there's the last day,
a one hour session with me to talk about anything that you want.
All right. And I mean, we can talk about hunting and fishing if you want.
I don't care. But I would go for the IP.
All right. That's what I would do.
Because it's at 600 bucks an hour.
If you can get that, it works out very well.
A number of people have used that already.
All right. So let's talk a little bit more.
Hey, Peter. Yes.
A lot of people are asking some questions
and you can just say whether you want to address this, like maybe in a Facebook
group about using Bible verses in songs and works and that sort of thing.
And yeah, let's I can talk about that.
I don't mind talking about that. OK, let's let me do this.
Let me go to that first.
And then I want to in the remaining time, I want to share the Copyright
Office's website because I want to make sure people are aware of how to actually
file. So in general, if you're using a Bible
that's like 300 years old, copy all you want if it's.
But there's newer, quote unquote, translations.
The Passion Translation is a newer work.
OK, so you can't go copying the Passion Translation
because there's actually copyrights associated with that.
All right. So you can't you what you have to do is look.
at the actual Bible that you're utilizing and make sure as to whether or not the copyright
is expired or not. All right. So if you're using like an old King James version that
your great, great, great grandmother use, have fun, do whatever you want. You can do
all the art Val shouts that you like and it shall it be greater. Okay. But if you're looking
for something that's way more passionate. So as to see vibrant colors flowing as you're
speaking. And now I have like just something growing inside of me, like that passion translation,
you better not do it because that's covered on the copyright law. So look at the specific
Bible that you're looking at. All right. All right. I'm going to share my screen here.
I want to show you guys the copyright website. This is really important to me because, um,
how many of you guys know that I'm not just training you this stuff because, you know,
I want you to just kind of learn this quick. I want you to actually be able to do this.
Like I want you to be able to, to have tools that you can utilize on your own, play around
with this stuff on your own. Um, and even make mistakes on your own so that you can,
you can grow because the mistakes that you'll make on a public website, as long as you don't
press the what button, somebody right in the chat, don't press the what button. What
button do you know? Yes. Don't push the submit button. Second, you hit that kitchen money.
Is that that's, that's how the USPTO works. Just don't hit the submit button. All right.
This right here is the copyright website. Okay. Can everybody see this? Okay. This site
is very user-friendly. Go on this site, have fun, play with it, do whatever you want. It's
very easy to use. It's a great site for you to use. Um, I would get very familiar with
it even tonight. Um, go on it and just play around with it. So it's at copyright.gov.
Just www.copyright.gov. Now in here, you'll see a link that says registration. See that
I just highlighted it. When you click on that, you can select the type of work it's
all listed here. So if you do photography, you can select photographs. If you do books,
that's a literary work. So let's just click on literary works. Cause there's a lot of
authors here. Once you click that, there's a great description that talks to you about
what a literary work is, tells you how it's protectable. And then right over here on the
left-hand side, it says register a literary work. All you gotta do is click that button
and follow the instructions. Now there are really good videos right underneath here where
it says resources, videos that explain to you how to file an application. Now, unlike,
unlike a lot of government institutions where you call and then you go on hold or you call
and it says, you know, if you're in the United States, press one, if it's Tuesday, press
two, if it's, you know, if your name starts with A through E, press nine, you know, oops,
start over. You know, I mean, it's like, you don't have those issues with the copyright
office. It's, it's pretty easy to work with them. You call them, you go through one really
quick thing and then you get a person, you can get some answers to your questions. All
right. So, so if you're really lost, you can actually jump and call their, their, their
toll free number and speak to them. Now, these videos here though, are really good. I posted
one for you last night at like two in the morning. All right. I'm working for you guys
like day and night. Cause I want this week to be really good for all of you. Cause some
of you are not going to have, have not had any exposure to IP. So I'm really trying to
make sure you get this and it's, it's something that's digestible. So I put in the Facebook
group a link, that's a video on how to file a one application with multiple non-published
works. That means one fee. You can, you can file for like 20 different images with one
application or 20 different publications, 20 different like creative works. It's all
in that video. Just watch the video. It's very easy to follow. You just have to make
sure that the same person is the author of all of them. And there's some other things
that you have to, that you have to qualify for, but it takes you step-by-step what to
do first, second, third, very easy. All right. So watch the videos here, learn how to file
an application. And here's the beauty of it. Somebody type in a chat, how much you
think it costs to file a copyright application.
Hold back alumni.
50 bucks, 35 bucks, a hundred bucks, zero bucks.
Oh, we wish.
A hundred bucks.
It costs 60.
Oh, Teresa.
Come on, Teresa.
That's it.
It costs $65, $65.
Now, somebody's tapping the chat.
How much it costs to file a trademark application?
Do you remember that from yesterday?
What was the cost that says through that?
Yep, 250 per class.
Very good.
It depends, April.
350, that's right.
So it's either 250 or 350,
depending upon whether or not you decide to file.
T's application, which we went through in detail yesterday.
How many people were on VIP yesterday?
Raise your hand.
Okay, how many of you liked that application process
that I went through?
Did that help?
Okay, good.
So you understand every single part of an application
that'll help you to be prepared
before you work with your attorneys
to give them a complete package.
That should be decreasing your costs.
If you go to your attorney and he says,
I don't care if you give me a complete package or not,
I'm gonna charge you the same thing.
You say, okay, I'll use another lawyer.
That's simple.
There's other lawyers out there, okay?
If you're doing all the homework yourself,
it should cost less money, right?
And I'm training you
on how to get a lot of the stuff together.
So it will decrease your costs, okay?
All right.
You should literally be 100X-ing what you're learning.
You literally should be 100X-ing what you're learning here
and what you're gonna save on legal fees.
Let's put it that way.
Okay, so with that,
let me just show you one more thing on the site.
Share screen.
This is back to the copyright site.
And then we'll close on this.
Let's go back to the main screen.
Just remember in here that if you're not sure
what kind of work is associated with what you do,
don't worry about it.
Like you can go through all these one by one and just read.
Okay, just take your time, read.
If you're not sure, you know, all right,
well, let's say that I was at a recital
and I was playing an instrument and it was recorded.
And I say, well, I don't know.
Does that fall underneath a visual work
or is that a performing arts work?
Or is that since it was recorded,
is that a motion picture or is that a digital?
If you're not sure, just click on it and read it.
I'm telling you, you'll be amazed at how detailed this is.
They've answered practically all questions
when it comes to trying to figure out where you fit
in the big picture here.
So if you go through that and you still can't figure it out,
then obviously speak to an attorney
and they'll help you out.
But again, my gosh, 65 bucks.
So if you're trying to, if you're thinking,
well, I have like 50 different paintings,
watch that video and see whether or not you can file them
as a single, you know, a single application,
see if you qualify.
If you don't, you may want to pick the ones
that are most important to you
and file only for that, for those, right?
The other thing you can do
is there's a thing called a compilation work.
Larissa, can you just DM me to see if I can provide a video
on what a compilation work is?
It's a unique area of copyright law
where there are multiple works that are kind of related
and you file them as a compilation
and you can do it as a single filing.
I'll see if I can find a video for you on that.
That's going to be like maybe 5% of you
will run into that category,
but if it helps you, I'll give it to you.
I just give it to you, okay?
All right, how are you guys doing, good?
All right, so we are five minutes,
no, we're one minute over.
All right, well, let's go two more minutes then.
I'm going to take one or two questions.
All right, let's see, let's go to Tracy.
Which one, me?
Yes, you, yes, go ahead.
Okay, thank you.
Yeah, I have a very quick question
that should be simple.
One thing I thought I understood
about copyright infringement on music, songs,
was that you could kind of get away
with around the copyright if a person or a group played,
even, I think, even the same, a similar orchestration,
so to speak, of that, say a cover song or whatever.
You're saying that people can get away
with copyright infringement if they play it?
I'm not following.
Okay, can kind of get around the copyright.
issue, if they, if you don't play the original artist, you
have somebody else, you know, who can record it. And I'm not
familiar with you, not refer not familiar what you're what
you're saying, I'm not following what you're saying. But if if
Tracy created a new musical work, and Ray decides, I want to
copy it, that's copyright infringement, period. I don't
care if she publicly does it in a in in a, in a public forum, or
she does it in any way she does it, that's copyright
infringement, period. Now, there are certain rights you get when
you buy a musical work, like you get the right to play, that's
part of the license that you get when you purchase that, that
work, you can play it. But you cannot do that in a public
forum, and charge admission make any financial gain, none of that
stuff can happen. So there's you, there's certain things
that fall under like a I don't know how many I don't want to
get people lost here. So I'll cover this in VIP because I
okay, I don't want a deeper area that I'm making a simple
thing. Hard to understand. So I don't know. If somebody else
sings, say I sing a Judy Collins song. Yeah. With the
Okay, if you're publicly doing now, if you're singing it to
yourself in your house, who cares? No, of course, you're
singing it at a party, who cares? There's no admission. If
you're in an audience and people are paying admission, and you're
singing their music, that's copyright infringement. You
can't do that. All right. So we're gonna have to close there.
Jimmy, let me take your question real fast. And then that's
because I know you're not on VIP. So let's, let's just take
that real quick. Got one minute. Good.
Jimmy, you're muted.
Jimmy's demonstrating pantomime works.
My question was, well, the $65 copyright fee is really short
money. I mean, I wrote for my book, what I thought was a
pretty strong copyright piece inside my book. What's the
difference between what I wrote? And when I go and I pay $65 to
register my copyright?
There's no difference. There's no difference in your work. What
the difference is, is when you go to enforce your work, you're
copyrighted against another party. If you have a federal
registration, you're guaranteed statutory damages guaranteed.
You don't even have to go through a whole phase of trying
to prove degrees of infringement and things. It's
guaranteed. So you are in the realm of you stepped out of the
realm of spending 10s of 1000s, if not more of dollars trying to
come out with the exact dollar amount that should be associated
with a infringement, and you're guaranteed x amount per
infringement, you just went way up way up on the scale. The
other thing is, it also gives you a document from the
government that says that you have a right. There's a lot of
power to that. In in like the visuals. If I say to you, Jimmy,
you're copying my book, I want you to stop. You're like, Yeah,
yeah. Okay, I'm copying your book. Got it. If I send you a
government document that says, I have a federal registration for
my book, and you get that it has way more weight, it's gonna have
a much different effect on you mentally. Right now. Yeah. So
when you're going to get to a point of actually enforcing
something, I always tell people, go and file your copyright. It's
even better. If you actually file it before you publish, you
know, because then you're then you've got the damages like
sealed, like you're all set. But if somebody infringes, and then
you go to come after them, and you've you file for federal
registration, they've been printing for three years, you're
not going to get statutory damages for the past three
years, because you didn't have a federal registration. So you're
gonna have to prove your damages and all sorts of other
garbage, trying to build up a case for that, that pastime,
because you didn't spend 65 bucks, right? That's a no
brainer. When it comes to me, I'm like, that's a no brainer.
I've got one book, I'm gonna sell it on eBay, maybe I'm
selling at 495 or 4995, whatever it is. 65 bucks, just do it. And
with that, I'm going to close everyone because in eight
minutes, we got to go into VIP. Everybody be here tomorrow. I've
got something for you that is going to make your life a lot
easier. It's going to make things work. Well, Larissa has
a point I see her reaching doing pantomime things as well.