We are excited to do another round of check-ins.
If you missed the last call on Tuesday,
long story short, we are kind of at the halfway point,
so we wanted to make sure that we're checking in
with each of you, talking about where you might
be feeling stuck, or any obstacles that you need
to kind of break through, because we wanna make sure
everyone's set up for this next half
of our eight-week intensive.
So I'm gonna just open us up in prayer week real quick.
I don't think there's any announcements.
Oh.
There are a couple announcements.
What are the announcements?
Should I pray for the announcements?
If you do, just pray first.
Okay, Father, thank you for this time together.
As always, we are so thankful for the gift
that you've given us in each other.
I pray that this will be an iron-sharpening-iron
conversation today, in Jesus' name,
I pray these things, amen.
Amen.
So the announcement that's on the top of my mind
is we're gonna have Graham Cooke with us next Tuesday
for our Tuesday coaching session at 3 p.m.,
so it's not a different time than what we're used
to meeting, but Graham will be with us
leading that conversation next week.
Yeah, and it's gonna be a very casual conversation,
Lindsey and Graham are just gonna have a dialogue.
A chat, kind of like what we did last time,
if you guys are vets and were with us before.
Yeah, and then we'll definitely have a time
to, if you've got questions and stuff at the end,
we'll do some Q&A, so it'll be fun.
We've been very blessed by them as far as just being able
to work alongside Graham, and he's very for everything
Kingdom Messengers, like he loves what we're doing here,
and he just wanted to help us give back.
Absolutely, yeah, it's a shared heartbeat
to have many voices sharing the good news of the gospel
in the context of the nature of God
and our identity in Christ,
because I know that many of us are sharing with people
who are coming out of religion,
out of that religious bondage,
and discovering who they actually are in Christ
and how magnificent God is
and his goodness and love towards us.
So it's gonna be exciting to have Graham.
It'll be good, and then, so it's September now,
so like I said, we're in our next half of the intensive.
We're continuing to do our twice-weekly meetings.
We're gonna run those all the way through
till the last day of September.
I think that's the 27th.
I'm looking at our calendar over there.
So 27th is the last day,
but we'll have a lot of things leading up to that.
We are gonna be doing a couple of other things
throughout September.
We are gonna do a public event for all Kingdom Messengers,
so for the greater Kingdom Messenger community
on September 24th.
We're gonna do kind of like a half day or all day,
just a single one day, so not a full challenge,
just like a few hours in the morning.
We're gonna kind of run through a lot of challenges,
and basically just bring a whole bunch of new people
into the community, so.
Yeah, we didn't know that we were gonna do that,
because we kind of were thinking that this intensive
we'd be capping off the year,
but we've had quite a few people reach out,
saying the timing didn't work for them
with August and September.
Are we planning on doing anything October and November?
So we're gonna squeeze in October, November,
we're gonna squeeze another eight-week intensive.
But not until we close this one out,
so our focus is still fully on this.
Yeah, there's only two of us,
so we have to do everything like once at a time.
Yeah.
But we just wanted you guys to know,
kind of be the first to know,
that that's what we're planning on doing
for the larger community.
So if you have friends,
if you have people who have been interested in joining,
and it hasn't been a good time before,
you can tell them about this one day event
that we're gonna be doing at the end of September.
Yeah, so.
And we'll share some more details and stuff with you guys.
We just want you guys to know what's going on first off,
so, awesome.
Okay, so let's jump into, like Lindsey said,
this week we're just doing kind of check-ins
with each person.
We did a number of people,
went through a lot of people's accounts on Tuesdays.
We're gonna do the same thing today.
We have a few people lined up,
which I'll call on you guys.
You guys can put up your hand if you've got questions.
So if you have anything specific,
we're kind of wanting to spend more time
just doing questions, answers stuff.
So we'll pull up one person's account,
we'll take a look,
we can give you guys feedback on your accounts,
your videos,
just little things you could do
to maybe try to improve some of the results you're getting.
And then, or if you just got technical questions,
or if you're just stuck,
like ran out of content ideas,
like we could just spend five, 10 minutes
just helping you think through some next things.
So I did talk to Paul, like right before this,
so we can bring him up first
and let me just do some spotlighting
and then we'll come to Marion
and then we'll go down the list from that.
And we're definitely gonna try to get to everyone
that we didn't talk to on Tuesday,
but we'll also have some time at the end for some Q&As
if anyone else has follow-up questions
from their time on Tuesday as well.
Hey, what's up, Paul?
Hey, good to see you guys.
How are you?
Good, good.
Thanks so much for your time for this, this is awesome.
How's it been going?
It's been going well.
The consistency has been good just to have that motivation and accountability but I won't
lie, it's been a little bit slower than I'd hoped but I'm very much excited to learn to
see what I should do going forward just to grow it.
I think as I spoke to Bruce as well recently, I think I'm still navigating what is working
while it's not working but yeah, overall it's good.
What is your feedback?
Do you want us to look at your TikTok or your YouTube?
What are you kind of been focusing on?
So I've been taking your advice for this challenge of focusing more on shorts so I've been basically
doing one short just putting it on all of the different platforms but TikTok has been
the one that's been growing the quickest.
So out of all of them, that is probably the main one, yeah.
Nice, okay, that's cool and so you've just tried a lot of different content and what
seems to be working?
So the things that have been working well are the ones that have been taking really
long to make like the actual really intentional like proper valuable lesson kind of condensed
into 60 seconds but it takes really long to make to kind of get it in 60 seconds and to
get the video and things.
So those are the ones that have been doing well relatively.
Is it because you're trying to condense it into 60 seconds?
Have you done any like part one, part two, part threes or are you just in like single
videos?
I've just been doing single ones but would you recommend doing part, separating them?
From a process like standpoint, like if you're saying like hey, it's taking me a lot of time
to condense and I can understand in your world like you're doing like kind of how-to's and
tutorials and let me show you this and so it's a little, even just the editing is a
little bit different than you just like putting your face on the screen and talking because
you're showing you know keyboards and tracks and things like that.
So I wonder from a creative process if it would help you by breaking it up so you're
not trying to condense everything into 60 seconds but you're labeling things part one,
part two, part three.
So you're giving enough in each episode to like you know that it feels, it doesn't have
to be complete complete but you kind of do like a part one in the tutorial, then a part
two, then a part three and it gives you the space to, when you label it that way people
are also enticed like if that first part helped them like okay, I want to go see part two,
I want to go see part three.
And that's really good, thank you.
And one thing I would say as well for, and this is for not everybody but it may apply
to your niche as well but I think for you in particular, if anything you're doing with
tutorials or like you're trying to teach people something, what I've seen a trend with
TikTok or the short form is to focus as much as you can on the problem that people have.
Like instead of saying let me teach you this thing, let me teach you this thing, like which
can work sometimes.
A lot of times it's like hey have you ever been stuck not knowing how to do this problem?
Let me show you how this works, you know.
So you kind of flip it around.
Using that as the hook.
You did this actually really well even with, you said you know, here's what I pray when
I don't know what to pray.
Like oh the problem is I don't know what to pray, let me wait to hear the answer.
Or hey I don't know how to do this thing in Ableton or Logic or whatever, you know, hey
have you ever been stuck and like this problem happens, here's how to fix it.
Like you kind of focus more on like where they're stuck.
That's so good, that's so good, I'll definitely start with that.
What do you recommend content wise because I won't lie I've definitely been trying a
few different things just trying to see what works and also some of them I do because it's
a bit quicker on a busier day or two.
I have been trying to batch but a lot of the time I have to do kind of only two at a time.
So sometimes I just do a simpler one but what do you recommend content wise, like strategy?
I'm just, yeah I'm skimming it now to see if there's anything that's like super high
engagement.
That's always a good, these are mostly like around five to ten percent.
Let me ask you this, like who are you trying to speak to?
Let's start focusing on the who.
Beginner intermediate music producers, that's like the main target.
And what are you trying to help them with?
I'm wanting to help them, I mean for the shorts kind of just understanding the tips and tricks
but overall shortening it is just to become a bit more proficient in Ableton specifically.
Okay, that's good.
I suppose it's a bit more, I haven't actually taken that to thought as often as I should.
Yeah, so I think that's good, like so I would say like if you can say, if you can make your
channel like about helping people use Ableton for example to make money as a producer, like
people care about money or influence or like there's a few.
impact, you know, so if you can go to one of those like core desires that people have,
that's typically a problem. Like, hey, yeah, or I'm a good musician, but I don't know how to use
these tools to actually turn into a business or, you know, or charge people for it, you know,
because then you're, you're, you're like, you could kind of teach people to do what you've done.
And you can say, here's how you can like list your tracks for sale, or here's how you could
like work with a client. Like, there's a lot of very things that you guys can help with,
or here's like three things you should make sure you have on your quotes, or here's how to put
together an estimate, or, you know, you can start to share more about like the business side of it
if you want. Yeah. Just because people, there's, that's probably a kind of a, if you've heard the
difference between like red ocean and blue ocean, red ocean is like, like you think of like fish
and a shark, like they're just feeding, and it's just a frenzy. You want to kind of get out of the
noise and be in a blue ocean where there's like no one else helping people. That's why we want
people to niche down as tight as you can, because if you can get yourself out of the noise of
everything else that's going on, so like competing in like just the music producer thing, you know,
you could niche down to, to Christians. You could niche down to like as tight as you want. Or just
the beginner intermediate part. Yeah, beginner. Just calling them out, like what you're saying.
Yeah. If you're just getting started with this, like here's, here's, you know, follow my channel
for more help on how to, you know, go from musician to producer. That's, that's actually
really good. It's like, you tell me, you're helping people go from musician to a producer,
meaning that like a musician is just like making music, whereas a producer is like making money.
That's so good. That's so good. What is that? Sorry. What is that? From making music to making
money. That's really good. Music to making money. I'm writing this down. What would you,
sorry, sorry, last thing for the, um, you said the core desires, all those, you said make money.
What is, what are some of the other ones? We always like, we always say there's, you know,
it's influence, impact or income are typically when people are kind of searching out that.
Or health can also be like, if it's a health thing or a, um, I'm looking at things.
Really listen, the core desire, and this applies to everyone is transformation, right? It just,
it looks different for, for people, but transformation is the key. People are
searching for solutions to their problems, answer to their questions because they want change.
They want to be unstuck. They want to gain influence. They want to make an impact. They
want to, um, you know, uh, earn income. These are examples. Not, it's not necessarily all the
things, but it's a good, it's a good conversation to have with yourself and the Holy spirit, each
and every one of you about what is it, what transformation is my who seeking? Cause that
helps you in creating content. Um, you know, I go back to posture all the time. For me, it was
my own transformation, which was stepping out from striving to live this perfect life and learning to
live in perfect peace. And so everything I talk about has to do with that transformation. Yeah.
And really, I mean the language I can use with you guys, it's like my, it's getting out of
religion and into relationship. I mean, there's many ways that you can phrase it, but that's what
I know my who is searching for and it might be different with your who. Yeah. And I think that's
good. Just, that's why you have to pick a who. It's very difficult to speak to like a room full
of people and be like, Oh, well this person needs that. And that person needs that. If you're like
niching down to just talking to one person, like, Oh, I'm going to help this person get to that
place. And then everything is about like transformation, transformation. Um, and so
that's where like, uh, and I think, so the thing that your stuff is doing well, I know you've got
almost a thousand or 800 and something TikTok, um, which is great. But I think if you kind of
niche down and keep getting more and more specific because it's TikTok, it can, you can go very
specific for like a month or two and go to a very specific who, and then in a month or two, you could
change it to some other who it doesn't, it doesn't not going to mess anything up in the algorithm
necessarily. I was saying you can broaden your who. Yeah. Later is what you mean. You can always
go broader later, but like broaden it. Yeah. Yeah. So I don't feel like you're locked in now. I have
to go create an entirely new TikTok. If I do, you know, if I do something more advanced for people
who are a little bit more advanced or whatever. Yeah. Um, and then just like hashtags and stuff
for like Ableton. Yeah. I just see one problem. Um, I'll just mention this. So this may have,
this happened to us as well in our Notion channel, but you can see that like, I don't know what
happened here with the hashtags, but like it didn't hashtag, uh, bedroom producer and hashtag
room producers. Hashtag PI. Yeah. So niching down.
No, I didn't.
Realizes thank you. So if you click on this and we showed this to some people
So it's maybe it did so that one says piano lessons. Is that what it was?
Yeah, that one actually it may have worked. It may just be a formatting issue here
Like when I click on producer, it does actually go to piano
So maybe it's not totally broken, but I was gonna say you can be a little bit more specific with like if you able
Yeah, or like product or something. Yes a music producer has a hundred million views
For anyone under 10,000 followers like try to target like under a million
So you could say like it's good beginner music producer. So we showed this on
For everybody else you guys are all be doing trying different hashtags. You could say like
You know beginner music producers
Or producer
So that has 10,000
or like
Something like yes, you can keep you know, do some research and figure out what works for you
but add the easiest thing to niche down and get a smaller audience to start adding words on the either before or after the
tags you're using
but if you try to go to like
Tens of millions or hundreds of millions or even billions like if you do the like hashtag Jesus or hashtag worship or hashtag
Gospel, there's literally like I think there's like 17 billion
Like if you'd look for something like Jesus
It's 66 billion. Yeah, just the hashtag Jesus so no one should be hashtag, but if you could say like
You know Jesus
Some I don't know something you could do a phrase
But you just have to be like more specific and and then there's check that in being specific
There's still people using that hashtag right because you might be too creative and then there's nobody you searching for that. Yeah. Yeah
Nice. I didn't know you could actually search for the hashtag. That's amazing. Yeah, how many we sorry
It only really works on the desktop. I think you when you are adding it you can search and see the
on your
TikTok app, but if you wanted to be proactive the desktop is a little bit easier to navigate
How many would you recommend hashtags as many as you can fit in there
No, you just keep going until like there's a cut off there is a cut off there's a yeah
Yeah, it's a character account you'd recommend just going
Going as many as you can
And repeating them like copying and pasting or would you recommend changing?
Yeah, you could if you see ones that are good or for like beginner music producer or something
That's very to your specific who then you could do the same one and then should he be using like the for you page and stuff
once yeah the FYP
And all that what is what is that
So, well, I won't go into it like right this second, let me see if I can find it though
There is it was part of the challenge we just did
Let me find it real quick. I
Think it might have been day to you
The day to our day in the worksheet. Oh, you're how to had a life posting
Okay, so this is the link
I'll just drop it. You can go watch it later. Yeah
There's a video here and you'll go through like a batch of hashtags. You can try to use
So just experiment with it and one thing we're telling everybody to do if you feel like your accounts a little stagnant
Take a risk and just post without any hashtags and do like a very short
Try to do like a seven second or like a 15 second post just to kind of like reset the algorithm
We've seen that work as well
So like a seven second post or a 15 second post with no hashtags and just let tick-tock figure out who they want to show
It to because I'll show it to just huge amounts of different people
You still want to put a sentence in there about what you're helping people do in the description, but just let it go
Yeah
So test that as well
Everything is an experiment and feel free to repost your content
Video that you spent hours and hours on and this one has 1200 and this one has
197 and honestly these look like very similar types of content. I would repost this guy
Again, just with different hashtags
Yeah, so don't feel you have to be like totally original every single day
Cool
Thank you so much
Yeah, and all this is recorded so you can go back and I know we flew through it kind of fast
Thank you so much
Okay
Let's go to we're gonna go to Marion. She had her hand up. Well, Joe's good and then we'll come to Joe
Just gotta leave soon. So we'll make sure we get to Joe. Yeah, and where did she go? I'm right here
There you go. No, I have to I'm gonna add you here so we can there we go now we can okay
So I wanted to check Bruce whether you found out how to add music to YouTube and Instagram
Yes
Let me pull it up. So Instagram definitely can do it
actually
we did it this morning. Let me sign in real quick. I will share my screen here.
Some people have had the problem where it doesn't let you, like you said the music was going for 15
seconds, is that right? I couldn't get the music to play without it stopping my voice.
Yeah, that's a little different. Let me just do this. I'll share my screen.
Okay. Has anyone else, you know, feel free to unmute, anyone else had issues with Instagram?
I've heard a few people had some issues with the music playing for a little bit and then getting
cut off or anything to do with the audio. Let me go to post.
Okay. I haven't had that issue with Instagram, but I've had that issue with YouTube.
Okay. With YouTube. Okay. Yeah. So let's just go to next. Here. We'll do a real
um music. Okay. So from this screen, are you able to get to this screen?
Yes, I can. I don't get the bit down below where you've got the recording.
That doesn't come up for me, but I can get. Oh, no, no. Sorry. The recording is just,
there you go. Let me move this. Okay. Yes, I can get to that screen. I'm sorry. Yeah,
you guys can see that. So then you can click to music and then I'm just going to pick like.
Just a minute. Okay. Okay. I've got no video to bring up. So
real. Okay. Real. I'll just try anything.
Okay. I've got video up and then I say add. Yep. So you hit music.
Now after, before I do preview. So yes, this will be after you hit preview.
After I hit preview, yeah. And then you'll click.
Music. Okay. Music. Yeah. I've got camera audio. Okay. And then you should see like a music at the
bottom left. Yeah, I do. Okay. So click on that and then you can choose music. Yeah.
And then from there, once you've added your music, you should see kind of two different
like horizontal. So this will let me.
Okay. I've got some music. Okay. The music now there's, there's a little thing beside it that
says save. So do I save it first? No. Yeah. Are you still seeing the screen?
I'm still seeing the screen with the music on where I was picking my music.
Yes. Okay. So just, you definitely want to choose it from there. So let me just go back.
Well, I just chose it, but. Let me get to where you are. So you hit music and you've,
you've chosen it. So. Oh, I don't have a, no, I don't have a little arrow like that.
Okay. Do you have like this screen? No. Okay. Just a minute. Well, I, I have to get to that screen.
I've, I clicked on my music. Do I put save? Do I go, then I have to go back to the other.
Yeah. You can hit done. I think. There is no done.
Okay. So we're definitely seeing very different things.
Yeah. Are you on an iPhone or Android?
No, an Android. Okay. So if you can jump into
Zoom on your phone, like if you can connect to Zoom from your phone.
Zoom? Zoom?
Yeah. The Zoom call.
Oh, I don't, I don't do Zoom on my phone. So how do I do?
Okay. Let me see.
I can plug my phone in.
Yeah. Tamara, if you want to, we just did this today with Tamara. If you guys want to
just do like a direct message chat here and maybe help her. Basically you can add the Zoom app on
your phone and then you'll join this meeting and then you'll be able to share your screen.
So I can't just show you my screen then?
Not from an Android. The only way we've been able to do it was through Zoom.
Okay. We'll look at it. If you want to,
we have plenty.
time out. We'll do it before we finish today. Okay. Maybe you and Tamara can chat here and
some DMs in the chat and she can help you. She's a pro at it now. Okay good. Like an hour
figuring this out this morning. So awesome. We'll come back in a minute. Okay so let's go to Joe
real quick here. Let's bring him up. Hey Joe. Hello. How are you doing? I'm doing good.
So how has it been going for you Joe? Oh seems like there's a bit of a delay.
Good. I think I don't really have anything to compare it to because I've never done anything
like this and so this is the first time I'm doing this sort of thing and in some ways it
feels like it's going good. TikTok of course is you know going crazy. I mean people are just adding
some days I'm adding 20 at a time and some days you know just two or three.
Instagram is up to about 70 although I lost someone today. I don't know
and I'm even getting views on on YouTube now. I've only got about six subscribers but
people are coming and showing up and even commenting. I've learned a lot over the last
couple of things about the hashtags. I think I was using them wrong because in my mind I was
thinking well if there's billions it'll go out to the widest amount of people and then you know
there'll be a big group that will you know maybe look at it and until you guys were saying to
pare it down. So I was using the hashtag Jesus and all that kind of stuff. The last few videos
I've been trying to pare it down because I've noticed a drop off. Well I've noticed a drop off
on some videos so when I'm doing teaching videos they seem to drop off. The last three I think had
maybe 12-13% engagement. The prayers go like crazy except for the newest one but I just put that up.
That's good. I see this one and it's I see you've got I mean some bigger ones here like prayer
obviously. I'm just looking here so you got the music. I mean and not just that you had the
2,500 views but the 20% engagement is awesome. This one had 26, 24 so I mean it's everything
and that's a prayer, that's a prayer, prayer. So I think you're on a you know I would have something
yeah no this is good. So this is once it says like prayer for you or pray with me like it's a little
generic as far as the thumbnail goes. So I would try something that's like okay I don't know what
this prayer is about. Topical. Yeah like like let me pray for your finances or let me pray for your
health or let me pray for your you know energy or whatever the like prayer like whatever that's
about. Again you're just trying to be as specific as possible but this is really good. I mean
we were we said the whole time like when we first launched on TikTok we're averaging like 200 to
300 views on Lindsay's channel and we were posting every single day for like months. Blowing that up.
So we didn't get anything with like 2,000, 1,400 like none of this stuff. So this is really good.
The up and down the 186 and then 2,500 it's like I can show you that on Lindsay's account from
last week. Like it's it's just like up then down then like up again. So you just have to learn to
ride the roller coaster of TikTok. Yeah so I think too I'm you know I'm learning like I said I didn't
really think I guess when I first you guys were first talking about hashtags I misunderstood
on what you guys were saying. I thought you wanted to be like you know you want to be like
on what you guys were saying. I thought you wanted the bigger larger ones but
now I understand more what you're saying about that. So yeah in general I would say you do want
that. But I'm saying yeah wait so I was kind of think of it like when we did the challenge
that was just for bigger like for different types of accounts. Now you guys are getting
more specific and niche down on specific things. That's something where going for smaller hashtags
now will get a lot of faster growth and help you niche down specifically to people.
That was more just like the concept of tags in general will help link your content to other
people who's already you know liked content with the hashtag prayer. But now that you're like trying
to grow specifically like going to the smaller hashtags is going to be better for you. Yeah
because I definitely I mean there was a few of those that I the teachings that I did I mean they
were you know I really felt strongly that you know that's what God was telling me to do. And
and they were just real heavy messages on my heart. Yeah. So I'm going to read some of those
like the your children's. I'm just going to repost some of them and and play around with a hashtag.
like you said, and kind of learn how to do that a little better.
100%, like this one, God wins, like here, like I would, I would repost this because you're like
sandwiched between an 1800 and 2500, like these all kind of look the same, so there's no reason,
and this is a part five, it looks like, so just maybe, yeah, try reposting it,
you can definitely, definitely do that. How soon is too soon to repost them,
like I was going to repost your chosen because it's not a week, back to back, but you know,
you've got a couple going here, I'll do that, do it again, it doesn't really matter too much,
I wouldn't, yeah, don't, as long as it's not back to back,
I've posted, I just didn't want those who are following to, you know,
get a bunch of the same one every few days or whatever, they, it doesn't, it's, it's gonna
randomize it so much that they may see this one on Monday, and then they may see this one down
here on Tuesday, like it's, it's, don't even worry too much about it, you can't control like the,
a nice order, it's more like what I would do though, and this is for all of you guys,
if you're doing a part one, two, three, I would, if you could like stack those together,
just makes it easier for people to find then, because right now, like even just on this screen,
I'm, I don't even know where part one is, but I can't find the beginning one for this,
so now, is there a way to, no, you can't, is there a way to move those around, no, okay,
just when you, what I would, those are future ones, just post them like back to back, yeah,
you can also repost five of these, you know, yes, like, and you could repost all five of them in
one day if you wanted, and they'll just be kind of top of the list, and you know, one, two, three,
four, five in that order, and just, it'll be reverse order, so it'll be like five, four, three, two, one,
that way, they're just at least grouped together, and you can keep posting then after that,
just so that kind of pulls them together, and it'll give you a chance, I think,
that strategy with that was, go ahead, I'm sorry, go ahead,
you can go, yeah, I'm breaking up, can you hear me, yes, I can hear you, okay,
sorry, yeah, y'all were, y'all were breaking up, yeah, it kind of, my strategy was kind of like,
because the prayers seemed to be doing well, and people were actually engaging with them,
and responding, I was kind of doing a teaching, and then a prayer about the teaching, and
that sort of thing, but now I get what you say, yeah, yeah, it's not, again, you're seeing great
results, great response, so honestly, like, what you're doing is great, we're just kind of,
these are like small tweaks now, just to kind of make it even better, sure, yeah, so you should,
this is really good results, yeah, and that's what it, yeah, that's what I was going to say
to your first question, was how's it going, I mean, overall, I feel like it's going well for
something I'm new to, and I'm learning, you know, all these little things are good learning
opportunities for, like, the hashtags and stuff, just new things to try as I keep going, and
I've got to work more on the organization, using the tools you were teaching us before, too, so
just little things to work on to make it easier and better, and like, God's shine, nice, you're
doing great, yeah, and something you mentioned, Joe, at the beginning, that I think is just a
good reminder for all of us, because you said, oh, I lost someone on Instagram, it's very normal
for people to follow and unfollow, so, like, that, you can't use that as, like, an indicator
of anything, of anything, because I lose people all the time, I lose followers all the time,
it's only, yeah, yeah, some of it's not even personal, some of it's, yeah, I don't, go ahead,
like a delay, I think, yeah, no, I was just going to say, I, I mean, I pay attention to Instagram
and YouTube just to see if there's people that I can respond to, that kind of stuff, but I haven't
worried as much about those, because they're just growing so slowly, even Facebook, I check there,
I guess there's, like, 40 people there that are, are following there, I mean, I check so I can
respond and that sort of thing, but, I mean, mostly TikTok's getting most of the attention, so
it's generally the first video I post, and then I, I work on the others, so.
Yeah, you're building a great foundation, and that's, I mean, what everyone should be
keeping at the forefront is this is foundation building, and so it's, like, let's learn the
tweaks, let's kind of, but don't feel like, because you haven't hit, like, 5,000 people yet, or you're
10,000 people yet, like, there's still four weeks to go, and so much can change in a day,
when it comes to these platforms, because someone shares it to their 100,000, and then things start
to grow rapidly, and I think, I mean, I'm just looking at August 9th, like, the kind of the
second week when you joined, I think you had, like, 22 people listed in, in the whole thing,
and now you're at, like, 471, so that's, like, an awesome, you know, 20x increase in four weeks, so
just, again, don't, just look at the, at relative to how fast it is.
is going up and you gained 130 people
just in the last seven days on TikTok.
Yeah, yeah.
I was gonna say for others too,
it's funny because there'll be a couple of days
where there's like nothing and it seems like nothing.
And even some of your videos don't seem to have views
then I'll log in the next morning
and like 20 people have followed
and the videos like suddenly double what it was.
Right.
Sometimes it's just a waiting game.
You know, you gotta let the Holy Spirit do what he's doing
on his end and just keep making your videos.
Good.
Awesome, man.
We'll be encouraged.
We'll keep us updated how it goes.
If you have any questions.
Yeah, you're doing great.
Sounds good.
All right, thanks guys.
Cool.
Okay, Denise, we'll come to you.
Let me go, I know, get you up here.
Why is it not letting me?
There she is.
Hey, Denise.
Hi there.
So quick questions.
I switched my username as you suggested
to Bob and Denise relational coach.
And now when I try to find my old account
which was BD McKenzie 732,
it says there's no such account.
So does that mean that my new address is now
TikTok at Bob and Denise slash relational coach?
Bob and Denise, I'm pulling it up.
Oh, here it is.
Yes.
So if I go, I'll pull it up on my screen.
Yeah, so it's now.
So this one is your new.
Yeah, you can see it's TikTok.com slash at Bob
and Denise kind of written out, which is very nice.
Yeah, that is nice.
I like that.
And we're going to follow you at someone else.
Thank you.
And another question is I had this woman post a sticker.
I think it was a sticker.
This is kind of funny.
So when Bob and I first started this,
we said we should just call ourselves grandma
and grandpa McKenzie.
And then we decided not to.
But anyway, so she said, thank you, grandma McKenzie.
And I thought she was kind of doing like a little dig,
you know, because obviously I'm a little older.
But anyway, she put a sticker and I couldn't erase it.
It's like when I went to do my TikTok,
I just had to slide it up.
I couldn't erase it.
It's this one.
Which one is it?
I think it's, yeah, this one right here,
number where it says 49 face-to-face build.
Boy, it's that one.
And do you see below where it says Laura at the top?
Yeah.
So how do you get rid of those stickers?
Oh, at the top there.
Well, it's not on this one.
It's on this one.
You see it at the very top?
Oh, I see.
It's actually, sorry.
I wonder if she like brought in the comment.
Maybe, yeah, maybe that's what she did.
So you could, I have to get all these apps downloaded again.
Let me, I'll show you.
I think what you, looks like you tried to reply
to a comment.
Oh.
See, it says Mackenzie at the top there.
I think you did.
Yeah, I think you can like reply to a comment.
And so then your whole video is gonna have,
it's gonna, you can't get rid of that comment.
You can only place it somewhere on the screen.
But that happens when you first post the video.
What do you mean?
Like, it looks like she's taken the,
you know how you can respond?
Yeah, that's what I was saying, yeah.
Yeah, but when she made the video, that happened.
It doesn't happen when you reply to a comment.
Oh, I see.
Okay, yes.
I see what you're saying.
You think that's what happened?
I think so.
That could be what happened.
Yeah, I did try to respond to it.
So is there a rule about where you respond to these things?
You can just respond in the comments would be good.
Just with text.
And I think you probably have done this on some,
so.
So it's that one.
But you see, even when I went to put in my hashtags,
you can see replying to Laura Stinks, thank you.
I just said, thank you.
So happy to be with you.
Anyway, I couldn't get rid of that either.
And so it was like everywhere.
I was like, I couldn't get rid of it.
And so anyway, I couldn't delete it.
Okay, so we might, it might take us a second.
We might have to do this offline where we replicate this
and then show you a screen share of what happened.
Well, it's hard to see.
Okay, that's fine.
Yeah, I'll show you what I think happened
and you can see if this is what it is.
I'm just getting signed in here
and then we can do share.
Okay.
Okay, so I had to just get back into this.
Okay, okay, TikTok.
There we go.
So when you are looking at your comments,
if I just go into the notifications and we go to comments.
So here like Marcella just commented the hearts right there.
So you can, when you, if you click reply.
I think you can, if you press and hold,
you see it has this option here
where you can reply with video.
Let me just show you what that,
if I click reply with video,
now it's gonna like bring me on screen here,
but you see how her comment is there?
Yeah, that's probably what I did.
Like it just stays up there.
And so I could like, so you can reply with a video.
So this is actually a great source of content
if people do ask you a particular question,
instead of just writing the answer,
you can actually just do a new TikTok
and verbally say the answer
and then that counts as another post.
And then it kind of, it'll alert them that you did that
and they'll be able to comment on that again.
But it also lets, if you think it's something
that a lot of people would gain some value from.
So, yeah.
That's good, that's good to know.
Excellent, I didn't know that.
That's what happened.
I'm not 100% sure, but just be aware of that.
It's a feature, so if you know how to use it,
it can be very helpful.
But it may have just been that you accidentally did that.
Okay, and then another quick question.
If you try to, I was trying to crop the video in studio
and it says, I cannot make the change here at this location.
Is there a rule about that?
Like, is there a location
when you're trying to crop a video in studio?
In the TikTok studio?
Is there a rule about that?
Trying to crop here, so if I take this video,
are you still going to like adjust clips or?
Adjust clips, I'm going to adjust clips, sorry, not studio.
I don't have studio, I adjust clips.
So if you just, you're just trimming the end in and out?
Right, and then it always says
you cannot crop at this location.
And I do it from the end, I do it in the middle,
and it still says that, so.
So cropping is very different than trimming.
So that's why I'm, want to make sure we,
I'm understanding what you're saying.
Who's trying to trim?
I think I'm trying to trim.
Yeah, like make it.
I don't know if it uses that word exactly, crop.
I just know it says you can't do it,
whatever I'm trying to do at this location.
There's not like a very specific,
I'd have to see kind of what you're doing
to get to that point.
If it is a problem, I would go and do the cap cut option.
So like this app is great for editing and all that.
And if you're having problems at all with TikTok Studio,
I just jump over here and do what I want over here
and then export.
And there's a whole video on that we did two weeks ago,
I think, a week or two ago.
I remember that.
Cool.
Okay, I'll use that.
Okay.
That's helpful.
I'm glad to see the content up there.
It looks like it's good.
Yeah, it looks great.
You're doing it.
Well, I am going to switch the content.
You guys were saying to someone else that you can do,
like I've been doing joy, I did a joy challenge.
And so now I want to switch it more to relational.
So I was just thinking,
how can being more relational transform your life?
In the last week we've been doing,
how do you grow more joy?
But now we want to switch to growing relational skills.
I mean, is that how you make that transition
or do you just do it?
Yeah, just do it.
Okay.
Yeah, absolutely.
Especially this early in the game for you guys,
you can absolutely.
Just switch.
Yeah.
Don't even hesitate.
Okay, great.
Yeah, that's great.
All right.
All right, thanks.
Thank you so much.
Yeah, no problem.
And Xavier was saying,
you had 150 characters in your description.
So Xavier, you can unmute yourself if you're able.
Are you, have you tested that recently?
Cause I think it, I thought it was 300.
My last post, it seems to be limiting me at 150.
Okay.
And it's pretty, you know, static there.
And it's always been that way,
but I did notice it the last time that I posted,
but I noticed when Denise's description came up
that there were way more than 150 characters.
So I was just wondering
if there was possibly something I was doing.
Yeah.
No, I don't think so.
I wonder if they're just,
sometimes they release these features
to like different times, which makes it painful.
I would say like, I haven't seen like,
you can add a lot more hashtags and test a lot of things,
but typically you can just cram as many as possible in there.
Right, yeah.
It's gonna be twice as effective
if there's twice as many hashtags, if that makes sense.
I think you kind of hit like a saturation point.
Let me just see if there's.
I'll keep trying.
Yeah.
Maybe.
We're testing it out right now.
Yeah.
Okay.
The slowest way possible.
No, no, I can count them.
No, I'm just kidding.
So I think it is probably 150.
but it could be, it could be more. I see all of hers are just hashtags, so that may have like
tricked the system, I don't know. She doesn't have a description, which I would, just looking at this,
I would put a description here, Denise, as well. Like a sentence, at least. So have something
that's like, even if you just said, Worry robs your joy, or don't let, yeah, like just write
that sentence, and then put all your hashtags after it. It helps, it does. Okay, well, because it wasn't
giving me, it wasn't giving me any limit on hashtags. I could have gone on, it would just
never stop me. Like, yeah, so I think it is an account specific thing, and it could also be like, if
you're on the, I've noticed differences between the iPad app, versus the iOS app, versus the Android one,
like, sometimes they have different features, they've rolled out at different times, so.
Yeah, this is from, either from Chrome, or Safari, off of my computer. I just checked it out. Yeah, I have a hard 150 limit.
The least features are always going to be on the website. Right. That's what I've noticed,
just from testing a lot of stuff, is all the newer stuff tends to go to the apps first.
Yeah, okay. Cool. All right, well, good to know. Awesome.
Cool. Marcello was asking about the message bubbles in that video. Yeah, I think this was from,
Marcello was asking about these bubbles. So, you can add these at the, when you edit your
tick, your post, and when you add your thumbnail. So, if I go, and we do a video, it's my video,
we go here, next. When I go to select cover at the top, I think the bubbles are in here. So,
yeah, there's TikTok bubble. And so, you can add it like this, and be like, this is awesome. So,
it's not even adding it to the video, it's actually adding it just to the thumbnail.
So, that if someone millions on your account, they can see it. I think somebody else was asking that
question, but Marcello was asking about the ones inside my video. Yeah, the message ones,
the ones where it came up kind of like when she said something, and then the words were like,
on a bubble. Is that in CapCut? Yes, that's CapCut. And there's a whole like, hour long
training about two weeks ago on it. Last Thursday, but the Thursday before. And so, we actually did
it in a totally different app like this. And there's a whole, like, see, we even added stuff
like emojis, and stuff. This was like a very quick, and like circles, and all kinds of things.
So, yeah, check that out. Use this for the example, right? This is just an example. It wasn't, we
didn't actually use this anywhere. But I would say, as a general rule, like, you don't want to
overdo it. Yeah, it was a very specific style. Like, I was letting people know. You were doing
that for the, but that wasn't the one that we actually posted. You know, just from a, when
you're thinking about graphics, and stuff, think about, is this helping the watcher better digest
my content? Or is it distracting them from what the, you know, what I'm trying to communicate?
So, things like captions, that enhances, right? The, for most people, it enhances the experience,
because they can read along. They don't miss any of the words you're saying. But you don't want to
get crazy with too many graphics. Yeah, and if you looked at that post, I think we didn't post
that, is kind of what Lindsay was saying. Yeah, we kept it a little bit more basic. For a demo,
I was just showing that if you have very specific, like, high-impact things, you can, you can do these
different texts. I was actually showing a very specific style that I've seen a lot of people
on TikTok use. Again, it's just, it's just another tool to help you communicate your message. Yeah,
it doesn't mean you can't use it. It's just, when you're thinking, when you're editing, in editing
mode, think about, is this enhancing the message? Because it's easy to just use a bunch of graphics,
but you want to make sure that it's actually, like, enhancing the actual message, and not just
using graphics for graphics sake. Yeah. Marcella, have we, have we done you yet? Because you're here
now. Let's go for it. She's muted, though. You're muted. Let's get you unmuted. Okay, let's do it.
How's it going for you? So I, it was funny, you know, I always have my internal process,
but, you know, God is good. Me and Holy Spirit are walking this thing out together. And so,
I think, I think I'm on a good page. I, I just found myself being attracted. So I take in a lot.
I take in a lot from everywhere. And I just found myself kind of leaning towards a certain style,
and I didn't think it was me. And
And so I kind of had to pull back and kind of regroup and like really talk to holy spirit like what am I, what am I here to do what am I here to say in this time and the season where i'm where i'm at so.
I got clarity and I started hearing some things and so now i'm just kind of putting those things out, so I did make a post yesterday I did use some graphics.
Nice hope it's not too much, but I did get a lot more, I mean just I did it last night, and then, when I thought this morning, I was like it's like 500 people saw it already I just put it up last.
Which one.
yeah on tick tock so i'm just trying to focus.
You definitely don't have your.
Because I only see one follower.
Some kind of what no i'm just playing.
This is not it right.
No.
What is this old.
You may want to figure out how.
me.
finding me.
This is right.
Okay, that's me.
Can we will just update that.
i'll just drop this link for tomorrow.
If we can just update that in the spreadsheet that'd be great because we haven't we're basically showing you have one one follower and you have 187 so yes 575 views very nice.
factor truth, choose the God yeah that's great truth of God's Word over the enemy's lie, you want to listen to it.
Well i'm just looking because you said you use graphics I don't think you overdid it.
No that's great.
So one thing I would do is make the music just a hair softer okay so it's a little a little loud.
And again, the music is just there to help you tag to like you did hill song worship and it's instrumental so that's great.
And I think you said you just want to make sure it's not competing I was someone I was helping.
We were posting some stuff for kingdom messengers today and Samara was really trying to make it 5% volume and I was like it's you can't go just by like the percentage because some songs are really loud like this song's been particularly loud.
it's kind of like adding salt right to a dish like.
it's too much when you can tell it's like too much so like if it's competing with your voice, then it's going to be then it's not going to be as loud as you want it to be.
When you can tell it's like too much so like if it's competing with your voice, then it's going to be then it's too much just kind of always err on the side of like too little I guess it's.
That makes sense, because we don't want to be with your message.
And I was using the percentage I wasn't I mean I was listening but.
Now I you guys all are so good like I mentioned five one time because I think Isaac said fought four or five in one of his training.
And I feel like everybody's been doing five and I also do that, but sometimes you just want to listen to it and just make sure like Okay, this is a very loud song sometimes the song is so soft yeah you can't even hear anything at 5% so just see.
cool, but I think it's good.
Did you film this on like a webcam or on your phone.
This is my phone.
Okay, it looks good the lighting looks good.
I would film it in portrait though.
it's a portrait.
yeah but it's it's it's like it should be a lot taller and wider like I think this one here, that is.
I guess I kind of cut it down to feel.
Okay, I cropped it down.
Okay yeah you don't have to worry about that.
Okay.
Because it's better that it just sort of fills the frame and these aren't gonna make or break it but it's just like for consistency sake it probably get to.
Keep it full width because what people don't like to see is content that was filmed for a different platform like kind of being force fit on here and that's typically what you get is these like black bars top and bottom.
So just want to make it filled out so that it uses the all the frame.
Also, because I cropped it you guys have the black bars is that what you're saying.
We see these black bars and if you're on your.
be on the top yeah.
Okay, I didn't know I just I just i'm looking at everybody else's and just trying to you know, you know.
You shouldn't have to crop and if you film it in portrait you shouldn't have to crop it.
Okay.
These are great, though, I mean I would I would keep going I don't see anything like your hashtags overcoming grief like that's a great number right there for 94394 I would I would keep that.
normalized grief is probably get a 34 million yeah that makes sense.
Have you been able to like respond to comments marcella.
This is good.
Oh, look at that you and bill johnson taking over this front page.
it's like.
marcella taking over the airwaves on Christian.
On top on the top row here. That's awesome. So what I did you from what you said, Bruce, I think it was Tuesday, you said to you gave us like a homework. I don't know if it was Tuesday, I guess I'm so all over but you were saying to like research and kind
of look out there, you know, with the hashtags and so one of the things I did do.
And it was enlightening I have to say because
you know my process that I'm talking about is partly great is partly the journey of coming through group but also about identity and I haven't talked a lot about the identity part just yet but I did see a lot of content and where and where most of that
has is going, or what's out there. And I do find that, you know, I can get over myself, which I'm getting over myself. I can be in a lane, a good lane I see myself, you know, providing solutions with God about God prayer and word that could
really offer help to people so as I looked up so a lot of those hashtags I got was researching, you know, like you told us to do so, it was interesting to hear what was out there.
And I was like, Oh my god, you know, it would be good to address some of the things that I saw where people were really struggling, and that's what I would like to do.
I think these are I mean it shows that you did a little bit of research because you pick some really good. It's great. I'm not too high not too low hashtags, and then you got 500 views on that last video.
Yeah, I was surprised but and I just really did it honestly like I want to say was like six o'clock, my time Pacific time last night.
Okay, that's awesome so it'll probably continue to grow. Yeah, and, and just you can continue to use that same.
Some of those same hashtags because your contents probably for the same topic. So just, you know, copy all those I would say just a pro tip as well as like once you find a list of a lot of hashtags, just select all those right yet, it's hard to do it
after you post it to go back and find those again, but right before you post it if you just select everything and all those hashtags, go over to like the notes in your, you know, on your phone or whatever just paste it there.
And that way when you need it again you can come and just paste it a copy and paste it from your notes in back into the post that will hopefully save a little bit of time.
So, yeah, cool.
And just to address something you said at the beginning Marcello to think is good for everyone to remember is that he typically you create the least when you're consuming the most.
Yeah, I'm aware of that, like if you're fine like you said hey I found myself just consuming consuming consuming, and it was inhibiting me.
I find when I'm having a hard time creating it's because I'm usually consuming too much I need to take that down a notch and like, you know, even pare down like who I'm listening to, because I'm finding them over oversaturated and I'm not able to create
I think Lindsay that I believe that is what happened to me. I mean, I didn't think about it like that, but I had to shut everything off because I was going and watching everybody looking at everybody I wanted to be supportive, you know, I'm that you
want to be supportive so I'm watching. And then I was like, Okay, I don't know what the heck I'm doing what am I supposed to be saying it was just all like mush.
And it was interesting. The Holy Spirit began to talk to me while I was sleeping. And I had to wake up and I just started recording it now I've been using otter, because I think you guys mentioned that earlier.
Last year and I just turned on otter and just started talking what I heard in my spirit and so that happened about four or five times and I said okay I get it, I get it, let me just listen and then to go back and then kind of, you know, get it together,
so that I can record and I'm a little too analytical.
We all are.
Perfection.
I tell myself like this is one minute, what are you doing, I just say it like you say it like you heard it.
Yeah, so, but I hope to be consistent. I have been, though.
Yeah.
And it's just, it's just repetition. Yeah, like everything just wrote. Yeah, doing it every day was creative reps. Yeah. Awesome.
Like let us know if there's anything we can do.
Also, I'm Xavier Do you have time for us to do you have to go I realized you're probably at work. You're good.
Okay.
Oh,
I'm sorry I have too many monitors I was trying to find my cursor to unmute.
That's fine. Okay, so tell us how it's going with you and your account.
It's going it's
It's actually, I mean, we're growing.
I'm being more consistent in a, since we've started this.
I, in fact, I, I almost missed a day.
I said, no, I'm getting it out there.
Even though it was 9.
PM, I still got posted, you know, and getting it out there.
So it seems to the last couple of weeks have been growing about 120, 140 a week.
Nice.
You know, that that's not too bad.
Um, and still kicking up.
So, um, I still haven't gotten, I I'm, I've been kind of writing out a prayer,
uh, a prayer sequence that I want to add to, to some of these, but I think like Marcella,
I, you know, I overthink things and make it a bit more difficult than it needs to be.
It's just my nature.
Um, so I want to get that started so I can start posting at least twice
a day instead of just once a day.
Okay.
But I wanted to get consistent with that.
Yeah, that will really, I think.
I mean, that, that is, uh, I think that'll help too, as far as like accelerate.
Right.
As multiple times a day.
And, um, I mean, one thing I would do here is just like Denise as well,
like add a sentence if you can.
I mean, I did, I was doing that originally, but then, you know,
then I found hashtags I wanted and I didn't have room for it.
Yeah.
But, um, but that being the case, yeah, that's something that I'll go back and
at least, you know, um, start doing.
And you could just move the, like the episode, you know, that's great.
If you just want to put it in a parentheses at the end.
At the end.
Okay.
Yeah.
And then again, just as like everybody niche down the hashtags, um,
these are just going to be too massive.
Right.
In fact, the Jesus one, those, in fact, those right there are really just a recent test.
I just want to throw something out there and see if I got any difference.
Um, but I knew Jesus is like ridiculous billion, um, number.
Um, but it looks, it looks good.
And I see, um, I know you've gotten, uh, your, uh, 2000 on, on Facebook.
Are you posting on Facebook?
I have not been posting regularly.
I've been trying to catch up, um, so that I can start to grow that again,
but it had just become so static.
Although I'm starting to get responses back.
So I'm trying to post there and at least catch up on the episodes.
Kind of a teaser for maybe next week, like maybe next Thursday, I'll do this.
We're going to get, we'll talk a lot about, we've kind of put Facebook on the shelf and
we're going to bring that back.
Um, Facebook is with just the last six months or so has like now pivoted a lot more to favoring
organic where typically you had to, you know, I think we used to tell people like,
it's still fairly true, but you, you know, if you have a thousand people in your audience,
maybe 150 people are going to get served that content.
They've like pushed that up a whole lot more now.
Like, so the organic reaches is much, much higher, um, especially through the reels.
So Facebook fan pages, like there are some huge creators with millions and millions of
followers that are going like all in on Facebook pages right now.
We don't recommend going all in.
Not all in.
It isn't the only thing, but I'm just saying there's like people are, we at least need
to be posting your like reels as one of the platforms.
Like, so Facebook, TikTok, Instagram, and YouTube shorts.
Okay.
So, so the short, the, the, the short forms under 60 seconds should be going to Facebook
as well.
Then I know that you mentioned that last week or week before, and that's what prompted me
to start, to start, um, they've actually, they've actually like changed, changed it
and have added reels now to Facebook.
Now, just as a question, do you have to post a Facebook reels?
Can you just post to your page?
I haven't looked at it yet.
So you, you can do it as an actual, um, so I'll show you, we just, we're, we're launching
it this month.
So we just posted our first little clip here as a reel.
And so, um, what's really good about this is, and I think we did this from, you hit
create post.
I don't think you can do it from inside the web app.
I don't think so.
We did it on the mobile app and you can just go to the, you know, Facebook page.
And then, um, when you're here, you'll actually see reels as an option.
And then the exact same thing.
You can like pick music, you can add your text, all the usual stuff.
And then, um, you know, that'll, that'll actually go into the mix.
Since you've got the content anyway, you're just kind of getting repurposing it.
Right, right.
So, okay.
Then, then I'll do that.
I have historically, I've kept Facebook off of my phone because I don't have time for it.
It's a huge distraction, but in order to get this posted, I'll just do that.
I think if you go to the creator studio, um, I'll pull that up real quick.
I believe you can do that. I know that's a feature that was coming soon.
Um, I believe you can set up a reel from here.
So if you're in the Facebook studio, um, you can actually say create reel.
So you can then upload it directly and, uh, and then send it, you know,
through the process here. I don't know how many,
how much of the editing and stuff you can do in here,
but the cool thing is it's, it's possible. And I think you can also do, um,
uh, put, I think you can do this on the Instagram from here.
I don't see the Instagram from in here. No,
it's going to be like under a post, I think. Yeah,
no, it's not going to be a reel. So that's something I know.
People have been requesting a lot because I can schedule them out and have like,
you know, everything. So you can see the reels here, but we just can't, um,
I think schedule them from in here.
You can't schedule from there. Okay. That, that would,
that's the only reason I really haven't made any strides on Instagram because
I've got to, to devote time to, to actually doing that.
There are some accounts.
I know one of the big things for TikTok and Instagram,
like there are some things like once they add reels to the creator studio,
you'll be able to schedule them out in advance.
So you can have like Monday, Wednesday, Friday,
go ahead and schedule them and then forget about them for a week and then come
back. Um, yeah, it's a little painful.
TikTok I know is very painful having to go in and do it all the time. So.
Well,
I've been thinking about using one stream live in order to do that just so that I
could get it all done at once. I just haven't,
haven't taken that step just yet.
Awesome. No, no, but it looks good. I think, yeah, it's looking,
I think it's good.
Okay. Well, thank you.
Cool. Um, okay. Is there anyone else?
I know we're going to come back to Marianne and I'll hang out with and work
with Marianne on her thing here. And that may take a little bit of time,
but I know a few people just joined.
I'm not, if I'm correct, um, Susie Milton,
Gloria. Oh yeah. Okay. So Susie, I'll start with like,
I'm just making, seeing people we didn't get on Tuesday.
If you guys want us to make sure we get time with you, we'll stay on. Um,
thank you. Yeah. Sorry, because my time's up.
I just keep getting confused on this time. So
we're going to go to Susie first. We had her. We'll make sure we'll get to you.
Cool. I'm fine. I'm fine with going to Gloria.
No, she's she's it's like 5.00 AM for 6.00 AM for her.
Okay. Susie, how's it going? Um, well, I am on a,
I got myself onto Instagram. I, I tried doing the,
um, snap, uh, snap tick. Yeah.
The one to be able to clean up the tick talk in order to move it around.
And I'm seeming to not get my URL URLs
copied correctly to do that easily. Um,
but I think that that might be later on that.
What I really need to do is just go ahead and go from tick talk to,
um, Instagram. I finally figured out how to do that. Um,
so I'm, I'm maybe I need you to look at the content.
It seems like my, um, people are not sticking with me.
It's dropping off really quickly. So I've only posted one Instagram.
Okay. Okay. Let's go to tick tock.
You've been posting regularly on tick tock. Um, yeah.
And I really appreciated on Tuesday when you said something about go to what you
have mastery on instead of what you're learning. And like Marcella too, I, I,
my, my mind has just been kind of scrambled.
So I haven't as much as I wanted to.
So this one that you see with the sky behind it, I cheated.
I went back to earlier ones and cut it down since you were saying to do a short
in this, it was, thank you. Would you like to join me?
And then showing the ocean. So I just cut off the ocean.
So it's, it's short now. It's like 20 seconds now.
Got it. Um, so it has a 20% engagement rate, which is good.
It's just great. Yeah. 200. Okay. Now how do you see that engagement rate?
Um, it's magic. Only we, our screen can see it.
I thought so because we have the vidIQ plugin. So you could see,
we're able to see that. Yeah. We have a little plugin here, um,
called vidIQ that we use for. So if I go to mainly for YouTube,
but I think somehow it's just like also helping. There you go. Uh, vidIQ,
uh, just a little plugin and it like tells you these stats. Um,
it's basically just, it's not a complicated thing to solve.
It's basically just totaling up. Um, you had, you know,
43 plus one. So it's basically 44 over two 20.
So that all the views. So it's like.
add up all the numbers here, so how many engagements, how many comments, that's 44.
And then you just put that over the total number of views, so you can just do the math without
even having to, that's just, it just does the math for you, that's all it's doing, it's not
anything fancy. So that's good, yeah, I mean, 10, I'm just looking here, there's one here that had
like 4,000. Yeah, that one was higher, I mean earlier, it's a red shirt, keep going, there,
there it is, yeah, and it definitely has 11% engagement, yeah, and don't underestimate the
power of, oh, it's the one with the red shirt, like Isaac will tell us crazy stories of Lindsay,
like if her hair is up, or this type of shirt, or this background, like he's like, I can tell
if it's going to work or not, based on like, how her, like just random things like that,
higher views, because like, you know, it's a bright shirt, so it's like, it just catches your
eye, like catches your eye, like things like that, it's something that you have to get like,
caught up in, but those things sometimes, you don't have to do every TikTok with this shirt on now, but
it's just something to think about, but that, but that second one, first of all, it's a bad
picture of me, and so, and then it's kind of blah, okay, then there's also, this is my living room,
and this is my, my, what, studio type thing, are you saying, you can see which ones are my living
room, is there a preference between those two? I do like, the lighting up here is really nice,
this is the one in your office, I think, yeah, it's really nice, I, I would go with what make
you prefer the look of, okay, it looks very even and stuff up here, like, yeah, you don't want to
get, I think it's like, the wrong thing to focus on, I mean, it's good to have like, good lighting
and background and stuff like that, but the content is still going to be, this is nice,
is this in your, I like these, that's, yeah, it's in my living room, okay, I, I think I actually
brought my whatever box light up, okay, yeah, because you can see the difference there,
these aren't things to like, obsess over, and it's not going to like, change the amount of views,
because these two looked like they were filmed back-to-back, and one did two, and one did a
thousand, so it, you know, that's not going to change the views, it's just, the quality thing
is important, it's just not the most important, it's like, the content is the most important,
but, so having them all here, where I am now, is no big deal, because that's easiest, I just,
I did the others, because I thought that might be, and I would do what's easiest for you, if you can
like, like, any time of the day or night, you can go into this, this room and hit record,
I would do that, to where it's easy, like, we have the lighting in our studio stuff, we can just turn
it on, if it's 10 o'clock at night, and we can still have a good looking video, we're not having
to wait for the sun, so it does help to have some of the, some of that, you know, if you have a light,
like you have, it can definitely help, but it's not required, but it helps for sure. So you've
been able to keep up consistently, Susie? Oh, not as consistent as I would like, but better.
What's aiding that process for you to be able to record and post?
I can't think of anything right now, unfortunately, I have wonderful ideas when it's not a good time
to sit down and write it down, and then when I go to sit down and write it down, it, you know,
it's gone, so I think that I just need to spend more time with the Lord.
I also, I upgraded my computer, got an iPad that I've been messing with, and I've, and trying, I
messed up having a hard time with 1Password, I've just been like tech messed up. You just,
you had a lot of transition. I've had a lot of transition, and I will say this maybe only once
that I get a little bit of mocking from my husband that doesn't help, talking about me being a video
star, you know, that kind of, oh, you're going to go do your thing now, and I just need to ignore it,
but it affects me. Yeah, that's hard, that's hard when it's a spouse specifically, because that's,
it doesn't get much closer than that. Yeah, so, and needing to prioritize time with him, and we're
retired, and having long breakfasts, and having nice dinners, and spending evening together,
I, and then having other Christian things that I'm doing, I need to just, though, block out,
I haven't done that, blocking out that appointment time to just sit down and do this.
Yeah and that might take some trial and error because we might think hey every
Tuesday I know I'm free and then sure enough something happens to like take
that block out so it might it might take a few tries with no shame or
condemnation of like man I scheduled that and that just did not work like I
thought it was going to. We talked a little bit about this when it comes to
the family dynamic and I know this is everyone has their varying levels of
what this looks like but we talked about a little bit of Cindy last on
Tuesday and it's a good reminder for us it's something that I'm walking through
actively right now too and that is my family gets the first fruit of my
ministry you know whether or not they appreciate it I mean this man
appreciates it but you know we have people in our lives right whether they're
siblings or parents or and it feels like well they don't even want what I have to
give and it's a great opportunity to partner with the Holy Spirit and saying
you know how to reach their heart with what I'm carrying in my heart so I'm
asking you to to be the to be the what's the word the because that's he he has an
ex he is the executor right meaning not like kill but like executes the plan of
the Godhead and he can do that with us in our lives as well in the ministry
that we're partnering with him and so you know there's people in my life right
now they're very dear to me and and there's some disconnect with what it is
that I carry and what I what it is that I feel whether it's true or not that
they might need from me and how they need it so I'm asking the Holy Spirit to
show me and partner with me in ways that might go even beyond my current
understanding and knowledge of the situation that can make that transfer
that can so so that's something to Susie especially with your husband like you
you you have the permission to even if it means pulling back just a bit on you
know the amount of times you're posting or whatever in order to make sure that
that is a place that you feel like you can fully give yourself to and sure
enough you will find when there's when when you're focused on that like the
Lord always blesses the other outputs like I have discovered time and time
again I've had to make this shift multiple times like in motherhood in my
marriage and my you know relationship with my siblings like I find myself like
especially when there's either disconnect or discord it's like it's so
much easier just to give myself to the other things right the other ministries
and Bible studies and tick-tock but I the the dependency the trust that I'm
building the most is when I say you know what father I trust you with all the
other outputs enough that I'm going to give myself this focus and and I know
you'll meet me there as well so I know that I know it can be difficult in an
unfortunately you know the enemy has a mocking spirit that he uses people who
are closest to us sometimes to to exchange that with us or distort yeah
and so we have to call it what it is and say I'm not partnering with that
mocking spirit or that accusatory spirit or you know for some of us it's people
that are just blatantly lying to us or us speaking of which I'm being called
okay I love it you made the right choice and she implemented immediately but I
know this is not that's great I know this is not Susie specific we all have
this we all have this in our lives and and that's important I also I wanted to
address probably that one that got 4,000 views has got 23% watching it at the end
most of them are you know 10 or 11 I mean serious drop-off and then I thought
okay well if after five seconds somebody doesn't want to hear what I'm having to
say then that's kind of you know do they stay with me after that any thoughts on
do I should I worry about the drop-off um so it is a very natural drop there's
a natural drop-off of no matter what video it is it's always gonna drop off
after like that three to five seconds and then that's about as much time as
people and decide and they're like trying to see what is this about and
maybe the next thing is what is this one about and again do you think about it
that people we should find out like how many different videos people are
watching in a session but it's way more than one a minute like they're probably
skipping through some like 80% of the stuff to get to one that they want to
watch so don't take it too personally but it just means that like that's where
you should spend most your time is on that that hook and then especially the
next part if you want to share something that will cause people to want to stay
to the end so the the first four like three four seconds is to get people to
watch kind of the next ten seconds
And those 10 seconds is to get people to watch all the way to the end, right?
So that's why when you feel like you're plateauing and your content's not getting as many views as it used to,
just doing a 15-second video or a 7-second video, it kind of compresses all those things.
So it makes it a lot easier to get people to watch to the end of a 7-second video, right?
Because it could just be like, I want to encourage you to know that someone needs to hear this,
and then just say a statement that someone should hear. And that could be the whole TikTok.
As you're creating your content, it's just a helpful reminder, like, no fluff.
And I don't mean that condescending, but I find I do it once and I rewatch it,
because sometimes there's things that I say that I'm like, I don't think that's needed.
And I can kind of pare it down again and do it one more time,
because every second counts as far as what Bruce was just saying, like, what is going to keep them watching?
So this is a good it's just a good exercise.
I don't want it to paralyze people because there are still people that are going to just watch regardless.
But as far as like that, that strategy piece of like, OK, I want to get better as a communicator.
So this next video, I'm going to spend some time watching it and seeing if I can practice cutting out things so that it's very connected to the next piece.
So there's no like filler or fluff or it's all bridging to the very next thing, to the very last thing I say.
So I I was doing a script with the YouTube's and then, you know, since we're doing more informal, I'm I was allowing myself to think or pause or or something like that.
So is that a better I should tighten that up, then I would tighten it up for the 60 seconds.
It doesn't mean that it has to be a full scripted 60 seconds, but just you have to you have to keep talking because it's so short, if that makes sense.
So stopping to pause saying, um, doesn't work with this format as well as it would with like a five minute something or even like a 30 minute sermon where you have space to do that.
The easiest way to take a clip like that and fix it is with the script, and you can just literally drag the words closer together, and it will just compress it a little bit, and it does it in a way that doesn't feel too choppy.
So we've done that in a few places as well. Yeah. So, because I say like a lot. Yeah. Well, and there's just a lot.
I'm almost wanting to pare down my audience and say I'm going to be talking about our gut, you know, most people aren't interested, or here's a mystery, or in just something that I feel or here's the Greek word for, you know, who wants to watch that.
And it feels like would pare down my audience to those who wanted to watch it so it would drop off really quickly. Is that kind of a backwards look at it.
Yeah, I think, I think you have a very we talked about this before you have a pretty interesting topic. And part of it is because there's not quite universal language for what it is that you're talking about because you're actually questioning what has been universally used and saying it's actually this instead.
So you have to be a little bit careful because if you start talking about gut people are going to think it's a wellness nutrition channel. Right. So if you just start with saying is Tick Tock will think it's that yeah I'll send it to the wrong.
Wrong people so you have there's a little bit of, you know, wisdom and strategy with how it what it is that you're talking about and the best thought that you can have is what is the big idea that I'm trying to connect with and what is maybe some language that people are currently using.
That would help them hook them in to the greater understanding of what I'm going to be talking about.
Okay, so is it an example is like, you know, and I think we talked about this before but do you know that when the Bible use it when the New Testament says mind, it doesn't always mean your brain.
And then you start talking about what it is that you're talking about.
Yeah, well, it could definitely be your hook but you might say it differently each time. Right. So you might take it about a scripture Hey when do you know that and don't say don't start with the reference because no one knows what Colossians, you know, to nine
says but if you start with a specific, you know, like,
I'm can't remember any mind versus.
So, okay and yeah Romans eight where it says the mindset on the flesh is death but the mindset on spirit is life and peace.
Yes, really mind. Right.
So a quicker way to say that, like a three second, do you know when the Bible says not to put,
not to think about things of the flesh, it doesn't actually mean your brain. And then you start
talking about, so you don't have to talk about Romans eight yet or anything like that, because
people don't, that's too much. I think that another trick, I'm trying to make this as well general
for everybody is that those first five seconds, I would like, it's kind of like the thing where
you want to pare it down to various, because it's so fast, people don't have time for long
verse references or long words or something. So instead of saying, you just said your brain,
like that's quickly, people know what that is. And instantly, like it's just, it's kind of
simplified language, almost like what sometimes when you're writing, you can either write for
like an eighth grade reading level or a fifth grade reading level. So like shoot for like a
fourth or fifth grader to get that first like few seconds, you can expound later into something more
advanced, but it's just that first seconds people, you know, they just need to be able to
grasp it super quick and kind of need to catch them off guard and then bring them into the
content. And kind of like the, I think the problem that you're helping people solve
is they think it's one thing and it's actually another. And if they understood that it was this
other thing, everything that they would want, like renewing your mind, right? The payoff that
they actually want is because they're trying to renew the wrong thing. I'm just using that as an
example. So, so stick to what would be a problem? Like where are people stuck? It's not that they,
their, their problem, we, you might say the problem is they don't understand the Greek,
right? But they don't know that's what the problem is. They think the problem is different
is every time I tried to apply this verse to my life, it doesn't work. That's, that's a problem.
You know, the Bible says to do this and I'll receive this and that hasn't happened. That's
a problem. That's the, that's what I care. You know, that's what people are carrying in their
heart is this, why is it not working? Why is Christianity not working? Why, you know,
so you're speaking to identity, you're speaking to some, like, this is what it actually says,
this is what it means. So it was trying to stick your hooks around where people think they're
stuck. So you can bring them in and tell them where they're actually stuck and help them along
in that process. Yeah. I just throw this really quickly. That's hitting me is there are verses
that I just have a hard time wrapping my mind around and I'm realizing maybe that's a problem
that I'm trying to wrap my mind around when they're actually God's mysteries and we get to
learn how to receive his mysteries and act on his mysteries without making sense of his mysteries.
Now that's a really difficult kind of a thing to convey. I mean, that's, that's been mine of,
oh my goodness, I thought I understood this verse and I didn't understand this verse and
why didn't I? It was because I was trying to do it with my mind and I can't do it with my mind.
I don't even think that made sense, what I just said. I think it makes sense, but I think like
this is, this is where we have to separate what it is that Lord is currently walking me through
and what it is like, what is some ripe fruit that I can, I can give people that they can eat and be
fed and it not hurt their bellies, right? And so there are things that I want to talk about.
I want to talk about stuff I'm not even gonna talk about right now, but I know that that's not
ripe fruit in my life. So I can have those conversations with, you know, off screen,
but when I come on screen as a minister of the gospel, what did it, what is it that I know that
I know that I know, even if there's some mystery wrapped around it, but it's something that I've
walked through. Maybe not I'm currently walking through, but something I've walked through
that I can help somebody encourage them where they, where they might be, where I have been.
And Susie, you have, I mean, part of your walk was, you know, you were a Christian for so many years
and, and didn't know the riches of his, this glorious inheritance, right? And so that's,
I think that if you, if you stepped back a little bit from the profoundness and it is profound with
Lord is currently walking you through and just utilize some of the things that he's already
walked with you through in your journey. And just try to share some of that. You might be
really surprised and what you're doing is you're building a road to eventually be able to talk
about the things that he's currently walking you through right now. Yeah. That's good.
Cool. So a big thing for me is, huh? How come it wasn't fun for 45 years and now it is,
I think that is a conversation that needs to be had. Yeah. I would just do it because there are
so many people that you're going to accelerate their journey so that they don't have to spend 45
years walking the Christian life when they could be walking one with Christ. I would use that. Like
I thought about, I was, I thought, um, I thought about this first wrong. I thought I, or something
about that, like including the 45 years, like for 45 years, I thought about this the wrong way
or something like that. Like, I, I think that it's, I think that you might need to put on the shelf
just for now, not for forever. Some of the things.
You're wanting to talk about this mysterious and the, even the Greek and
stuff, but talk, talk, just to get on there and be Susie and talk about the
fact that Christianity is not a bore.
Yeah.
Just, just try it.
Just see, cause we're, cause right now we're in a, we've been stuck kind of in
the same place for long enough to where it's like, Hey, I think we should try
something different.
It doesn't mean that what you're doing is not working, but it's not working right
now.
And there's a reason for that.
So let's reset and help people get out of where you were stuck before so that
they can get on this journey and walk with you in the greater mysteries.
I'm very proud of you, Susie, for what you've come.
I really am.
Cause you've been out, you've been one of our vets and you've been at this for a
while.
And I'm really proud.
Awesome.
I mean, I'm going to cut you guys short because we got to jump out.
It's four 32 people have been on for 92 minutes.
So, um, I'm going to help, uh, Marion really quick.
I know anyone's welcome to stay, but we're just gonna, I'm just gonna help her
make, take another 15.
I don't want to rush her.
Okay.
So that's awesome.
You guys were going to help me too.
Sorry.
We'll come, we'll come to that, but I just want to let people know.
I know if you guys are hanging out and you've been down for a while, you guys
are welcome to hang out with us, but you don't have to, um, if you need to go.
So that was good.
I think that was, I think that was some good breakthrough there.
I saw a lot of people were commenting in the, in the chat here.
Absolutely.
All right.
Let's get to Marion.
And she's actually not on audio right now.
Yeah, I am.
There you are.
Okay.
I'm on the phone and on online.
Okay.
Yes.
I see the two, two of you.
So are you able to share your screen from your phone?
Um, yes.
Well, well, it comes up with all these lists.
Microsoft, OneDrive, Microsoft, SharePoint, document, web, or screen.
I want the screen, right?
Yeah.
Okay.
And then it may say something about recording and you just say, yes.
Start now.
Okay.
And anyone can do this as well.
If you do have something specific you want to show us, um, if you
join the call here from a Zoom app.
So I have to get onto YouTube now, right?
Will this mess it all up?
Um, well, I can't see your screen yet.
Um, so let's maybe try that.
It says draw over other apps.
What do I do there?
Um, do I switch that on?
You can.
Yeah.
Let's just see.
Okay.
I don't.
And if Tamara, you have any pointers, I know you just did this.
Yes.
Did you, do you see screen?
Is that, did you get stuck there?
No, it just says draw over other apps and I switch it on.
Um, if I take the arrow back again.
Oh, there it comes back.
Okay.
Now, yeah, it took a while.
Okay.
Awesome.
So let's look at Instagram first.
Okay.
You're seeing, um,
yeah, this is much, this is very helpful.
Um, Instagram.
Okay.
So let's go to the, let's try to like, just add a video and see what's going on.
So we'll do real.
Yeah.
Continue editing.
No.
Um, yeah, I just say start new video.
Let's just do it from scratch.
Okay.
Um, just grab anything there.
We're just going to, okay.
I'll do it.
There we go.
Okay.
This one may have music.
This one's got music on it.
That's amazing because I haven't been able to get them on lately.
Well, this is just coming from TikTok.
So it's not, Oh, you're right.
I clicked on the wrong one.
Just hit, uh, cancel.
Top.
Yeah.
Okay.
You just, yeah, that one's got text on it.
So that's from TikTok.
Okay.
Um, and then we'll just, we'll just, we'll, we'll, we'll, we'll, we'll, we'll, we'll, we'll,
okay.
Let's try this one.
This one hasn't.
Okay, cool.
So then you can hit, um, add at the top, right?
Yeah.
And then let's hit preview.
Yeah.
Okay.
So now hit the, um, the icon at the top, the music icon.
Yeah.
There's like a music notes.
I go music in the bottom left.
Okay.
And just pick, you can pick anything.
Goodness of God is fine.
So just, and if you tap on the words, like goodness of God, um, it will add it.
Oh, I've got healing hearts on.
Okay.
It's fine.
Um, just tap on the words, healing hearts though.
Oh, that will add it.
So that's just, you're just playing it right now.
Oh, that's what, I wasn't doing that.
Yeah, there's, so it just lets you preview it.
You have to actually choose it
and then it will come to the screen.
Okay, you see, I didn't know you had to tap on that.
Yeah, that's fine.
While you're doing this, could you show it to us?
Oh no, how would I, how would I turn it down?
So now just hit the done on the top right.
And then I want to come to whatever,
Bobby had a question, I think, while we're doing this.
I was just going to say, while you're in here,
I've not been able to bring up captions on Instagram.
And if Marion has more stuff, don't worry about it
because I'll figure it out somehow.
But I do.
Yeah, yeah, the captions, I'll show you,
I'll show, it'll take us just a second here.
So, so this is where, Marion,
I would probably go around like 10% or something quite low.
And then again, you can kind of just mix it to tape,
like to what sounds good.
And then just for Bobby,
do you want, can you just click on the captions link?
So you'll see there's like a-
Oh no, okay.
I've done the captions before, it didn't work for me.
Okay, which one?
Oh, that's the-
The sticker.
So just to the right.
Yeah, there you go.
Now just hit captions.
I've done this before and it messed all my videos up.
Perfect.
It all came out sideways.
Remember those?
Yeah.
So let's look.
Oh, sorry, I didn't even see what she clicked on.
I couldn't see it.
There's a little sticker icon.
It's like a smiley, I can't, it's a smiley face.
Okay, a smiley face.
Yeah, so if you want to drag this down,
Marion, like down to bottom left or something,
hit done on the top and then hit done again
on the top right.
Sorry, now hit done.
I keep hitting done.
Okay.
They stay there.
They go.
I'm sorry.
So do you see the, sorry, so Bobby,
on the top where you see the big A and the little A?
Yeah.
It's going to be to the right of that
with the little square smiley face.
Oh, I've clicked on that one.
I'm so sorry.
I didn't, it didn't do anything for me.
So it's that one,
and then there'd be like a captions option there.
Oh, okay.
I'll look at it tonight.
Thank you so much.
Sorry, Marion.
No, that's actually helped me.
Thank you.
I figured someone else would.
I was avoiding using this because of,
and I didn't know you could move it either.
Yeah.
So this is very helpful.
So go to next.
So now you would do next,
and then you should just be able to put the description in
and, you know, put your hashtags in here.
Yeah.
Okay.
Now I can do that later, right?
Yeah.
So now you can say save to draft at the bottom left.
Okay.
Come back to as a draft.
Yeah.
And the way to get back to your drafts,
which this was kind of a little bit difficult,
but if you click on the bottom left now.
Where the picture is.
Yeah, where the picture is.
If you tap on that and now you see that at the very top,
it says gallery.
And then to the right of that, it says draft.
So if you click there, you can see all your drafts.
Okay.
Thank you.
That took us a bit earlier today to find that.
So, okay, cool.
So that's Instagram.
Now then YouTube.
Yeah.
YouTube.
And I'm going to just add.
Okay.
Let's just grab some sort of video.
I've got create a short.
Yeah, create a short.
Oh, I've got to do the 60, right?
Yeah.
And it was not that you couldn't add the music.
It was that we couldn't change the volume of the music.
Yeah.
I don't know.
I couldn't add it.
No, I'm doing the same one
because I may as well do it for today.
Done.
Okay.
Can you still see my screen?
No.
No, not anymore.
And I'm going to try to do it on mine as well.
Okay.
I had this problem last time.
It doesn't actually let you change that.
One thing you could do,
well, obviously you could just post it without a sound.
That's the fast way.
Well, that's what I've been doing,
but that's where I want the help.
Oh, yeah.
Now, so do you want to see my screen?
I'm just going to check if there's a quick fix for it.
It says add sound, I could go to that.
Yeah, it's somehow it's not in that.
It's going to be some weird shortcut that I, let's just see here.
I will do some digging and see if there's a way to fix it because I think I had this
feature and then now it's gone.
So it's, you can if you want to go there, but it's yeah, honestly, there's it looks
like a pretty common problem on just looking at TikTok.
I mean on YouTube shorts, it looks like a lot of people are having this problem.
So I don't think it's anything there.
Let me just see.
It's going to be something silly.
Can you show me?
Yeah, I don't know why it's pulling that.
Let's go to sound, I'll try one thing and then we'll someone said you can press and
hold now.
I'll, I'm going to find it for you and then we'll, I'll make a little tutorial of it.
But I also see that there's a lot of people saying you can't do it at all.
So I don't think we're like, it's not a, it's not something very obvious.
So cool.
Okay.
Oh, she's muted.
Okay, cool.
Hey, Gloria.
I don't know if she can hear us.
There you are.
She's muted.
Hi, how are you?
Thanks for taking my.
How are things going with your channel?
Oh, yeah, well, I'm, I'm analyzing what's, you know, what is what people are really hooking
on to.
And the last couple of things that I put on was had to do with anxiety.
And I started to get views really, really quickly.
And, and I just felt like, yeah, that's a one thing that people are really going.
Yeah, and so I don't know, I'm just, I just have a lot of different things that's been
on my heart.
And I just kind of go with a lot of things that have been in my heart that the Lord is
speaking to me to me about.
Some of the things too, I think some of the questions too, has to do with my voice.
Sometimes I'm not sure.
Yeah, anyways, I'm just kind of doing as the Lord is leading me to post.
I actually have a post that is Psalms 27 that has got 47,000 views on it or something.
Awesome.
Do you have a specific question that we can we can look at?
Is there anywhere that you're stuck or you're feeling like you want some feedback on or
help with?
Yeah, well, if you look at my posts, some of them have really higher views and others
have really smaller views, like 200 views and, and just, yeah.
It's pretty common that you're going to see like 96, 200, then 12,000, like all next to
each other.
I wouldn't like, I would, if you do have a low one, I would repost it a few days later.
Try different hashtags.
Let's see.
So you don't, you don't have any hashtags.
I would definitely recommend using some hashtags.
I know you don't have them here either.
But what happened, the reason this one may have worked a little better is because you
did have your, this text right here is very, very important.
It's almost like you're adding hashtags.
And then in this one, you don't, you don't have any text up here.
So because there's no text up here, TikTok doesn't know who to show this to.
So it runs it for a little bit.
So everybody gets kind of like 70 views, maybe 100 views, 200 views or whatever.
And then it just sort of drops off and it stops promoting it.
Oh, yeah, I didn't realize that.
Yep.
So you definitely want to use this entire area up here.
This, you know, this one obviously does have some text, but it also didn't have that.
But I would add as many hashtags as you can in there.
And I would just say from like a wording perspective, you know, using medicine when you're talking
about fear and anxiety is going to be a higher click through than like antidote.
So I think that you like by using that... It's kind of like simplifying the language,
like you were saying. Yeah, because it's people are like antidote is not necessarily like as
common a word as like medicine for anxiety and fear, specifically anxiety. And part of that is
like medication in general with anxiety is just a hot topic, like all over the place, you know. So
I think you using something more common had a greater effect in getting more views.
Yeah. Go ahead.
Now, I'm just going to pull up your other accounts here. This is great. You got some,
you know, you're getting some good views here as well. It is always going to be lower. The
numbers on TikTok are just like TikTok numbers. This is more like reality here, like 62,
183. Like this is very good for YouTube. So don't don't compare 183 here to 12,000 over here. It's
not it's not it's not they're not really related. And part of that is just because TikTok is that's
all TikTok is a short form content on these other platforms. There's other types of content. So even
those short form video is still higher digested on these platforms. It's not the only type of
content that people are watching. That's why TikTok is like it's so concentrated. Yeah. And
that's why you get like many more views that way. That's good. OK, so a couple of things for your
Instagram, because this one's probably the maybe furthest behind. You're probably you're
hashed. You probably aren't using any hashtags yet over here. So I would try the hashtag game here.
I definitely would repost it for you. You're already growing very quickly. So I would I
this is a I did say people could use the TikTok version. That's like if you just absolutely don't
have time for it. But since you're not getting a lot of traction on Instagram, I would start
posting natively, meaning upload that original video, edit it in Instagram and then post it with
Instagram music. You will immediately see an uptick in views here. And I would also say I would just
from a profile perspective, I was going to say next. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The profile you're both
your bio lines that you have on TikTok. I would also put that on your Instagram. So when people
land on your profile, they kind of know what you're about. Yeah. And maybe the same like
revival is now just so that they see like Gloria and, you know, just that they kind of it's just
some other way to indicate what your content is about. But that's probably the main things. I
would also add thumbnails here. So you're you know, like you do on you're doing them over here.
Right. So you've got your your big text that kind of shows up before people start watching it. You
can do the same thing on Instagram because this like having a big text like that says, you know,
your daily medicine for fear and anxiety, just like some big text will capture people's
attention and they'll see it for a second. Excuse me before they play it. But
yeah, that's the main thing. I think just uploading the native videos to TikTok,
I mean, from Instagram to Instagram. Well, you'll see immediate lift in Instagram.
OK, because I haven't really focused on Instagram. I've just kind of, you know,
when TikTok say share to Instagram, I'll just share it. And sometimes I'll just go and so I
haven't really focused on Instagram at all. But yeah, because I I'm not a big fan of Instagram.
Yeah. And I have not really seen much in Instagram. So, yeah, that's probably
what I need to do is focus a little bit more, be more proactive on that.
We just find something here so you can see kind of what it should look like up here with like
we have a sentence and then we have all of the hashtags here. So some of these are a bit bigger.
I know we're saying that, but there is more followers on Lindsay. So when I said when you're
under 10,000, use the small hashtag. Once you go past 10,000, you get to use bigger hashtags.
It's just they'll both help you grow about the same, but it's at the same pace. But if you use
the big hashtags when you're too small, you'll just get totally overshadowed. Yeah, overshadowed.
So that's what you want to see all of this stuff up here. And so not just, you know,
the one sentence stuff, because you want to give Instagram as much information about what this is
about. So those hashtags help it know, like, I would hashtag Psalms 27. We want another hashtag,
Psalms 27.1. Those are two different hashtags. You know, even if you took pieces of the first,
I've done hashtags like, you know, I don't know, whatever. So you can come up with it,
but specifically for your topic, your content, so. Okay.
And then as far as Facebook, I have two Facebook, I have my page and then I have my personal and for a long time I have been posting on my personal. And so I'm trying to start posting on my page.
And, but I'm not sure if my page is connected to my TikTok.
It's not.
Well, it is in that like if I go to TikTok, you've put a link here to your Facebook.
I don't know if that's really going to help you with anything like, I don't know what your, what is the goal there.
Because you said to, to post on my page instead of my personal.
Okay, but these aren't posted as reels these are posted as videos. So that's the problem with these. So sometimes I'll go on my phone, and I can't even find where to post the real.
Sometimes the real is missing and I can't, and I'm like praying Holy Spirit help me help me help me and I, and then I'll find it or sometimes I can't find like it's, it's not even clear where to go and post reels.
Yes, if you go to the page.
You have to go to this page.
Can I do that can I share it right now.
Yeah.
You can share your screen. Yeah.
Hang on. Okay, yes.
Yeah.
Geez.
Yeah, Facebook.
Just go to your page.
There it is on the versus your shortcuts.
This is my page right this is where I go.
See right now. It's so easy right there I can create a real.
Yeah.
Okay, but it's not always like that.
Right.
But getting to. That's one way.
It's confusing because mine looks, it's, it should say, it should say a different text, but if you go to the home, that's page here.
Yeah, just, just tap. There you go. This is what we're looking for. So if you scroll down this Gloria rise.
Yeah, there it is.
So it says what's on your mind.
That's where the real is and I've seen it pretty much every time on that.
So right there in the middle of the screen, it'll say real or live.
I actually haven't really seen that like right now I'm seeing it but I'll go on there and I'm trying to find even sometimes where am I supposed to post because it's not even clear.
Yeah, I see it now.
Yeah, but sometimes it's been like really challenging just to figure out where I'm posting maybe it's just because it's an on different now.
I'm thinking that happened recently really sure. Yeah, go ahead. I haven't recently was Facebook switched up the way that they do pages where now your page has like its own newsfeed.
So before I used to click on like what you just did right now and you would be here sometimes you go to switch to your page and it looks just like you're like a feed like a newsfeed and you're seeing other people's content.
So that might be what's happening.
And if that if that's what happens when you're in a newsfeed you kind of would do what you do with your personal profile in order to find your way to like make a post where you'd have to like go to the top, like you saw what that wouldn't have those reels.
And so it might look like this or it might look like it looked right before we got to this where it allowed you to do a quick test here just hit the homepage on the top left.
So this is where we were a second ago and if you click on the little like person to the right.
So let's say you're like you're looking at this and you can't find the reels, and if you go to the icon next to the homepage.
Yeah, that one. So that takes you back.
So what Lindsay was saying is like the top right, you're choosing what account you want to be a part of.
So if you tap on the top right where your picture is, you're now like acting on Instagram on Facebook, like your page.
But now if you want to switch back to your, your personal page, it's a little confusing because I think your photo is the same on both.
That's what's kind of making this super confusing.
So if you tap back on like where it says Gloria FDR.
So now you're back in as your personal page.
Does that make sense.
Yeah, it's a little yeah no I know that part no my pictures are different so I am able to tell which one was, but the hard part, like right now I'm doing this and I found it really quickly but other times.
Okay, I'll go to my, I'll go to my page.
Yep.
And it's like, where is it?
How do I put the reel?
So from right here, just, you got to go to that second tab from the right, from the left
there.
So it's next to the home right here.
And now if you scroll down, your reels will always be right here.
There it is.
It'll always be there.
It doesn't move.
It's never going to change.
That's where it'll be.
Wow.
Okay.
So it hasn't, yeah, I haven't realized it to be so, I don't know what it is.
It's confusing.
We totally get that.
But that's good.
So those are the couple of things there.
Just like Instagram, the profile, make sure you post natively, definitely start using
hashtags on both platforms, and then just posting as a actual reel into Facebook instead
of just a video.
Those are two very different things.
That's good.
So I know we're coming up on two hours, so we're going to go ahead and stop.
I think it's the longest call we've ever done, other than when Graham was here last, I think
he went two hours.
Maybe he'll do it.
We just, if he was talking, we didn't stop him.
That's right.
So anyway.
Thank you everyone for joining us.
Thanks guys for hanging out.
We will see you on Tuesday with Graham.
See you around.
Thank you.
Bye bye.
Thank you.