School of the Prophets, good morning.
Oh, it's so fun to see your faces again.
David Armstrong and Kathy, Glenda.
If you guys were unable to join last night,
my name is Allie Vallatin,
and I'm the online host for this week.
So I will be here all week.
I get the privilege of sitting down with our speakers
to just pick their brain and ask them some questions
and get some wisdom from them.
So we are so excited.
Today, we have Dano McCollum in the house.
So happy to have you with us.
It's so fun.
Yeah, great to be here.
So, so fun.
And if you could, as you're just popping on this morning,
just put your name in your little name box
because it's so fun to be able to see your guys' name
and where you're from.
So even if you wanna type in the chat
so we can see where you guys are joining us from today,
that is so fun.
We love to see how everyone is joining us
all around the world.
It's just the best.
Los Angeles, that's where I'm from.
The best.
And Texas, that's where you're living now.
A lot of Texans, yeah.
A lot of Texas.
Yes.
So fun.
What part of Texas are you in?
I am in the Austin area.
Austin area.
Okay.
Oh man, Switzerland.
You got Canada.
So it's not necessarily morning for everybody,
but you know.
Norway and Germany.
I know, it's so cool to see how people join us
from all over the world.
So fun.
Nashville, I love it.
I love it so much.
Well, this morning, I'm gonna ask you some questions.
And then we're even just gonna have some time
to just minister to the people on the call
with us this morning.
So pray for them.
And if you have any words for anybody,
that's what we're gonna do this morning.
So I am excited to ask you some questions.
First question for you this morning is,
you know, Chris really opened it up well last night.
He had a powerful message.
If you guys have been able to listen or maybe not,
sometimes with the time zones,
it's a bit tricky to find the right times
to watch things.
But last night, Chris spoke and it was just powerful.
He really shared a lot of the things
the Lord has been speaking to him about in this last year.
And really just the sort of metamorphosis
that we've been in and sort of this new,
we're kind of breaking out of the cocoon
and finding our wings and beginning to fly, right?
Just really fun.
But I think most of us could agree, right,
that the last couple of years, they've been wild.
It's been a unique time in history, right?
Like we've all across the globe experienced
some trials and some things that have just been difficult.
We've had some unique circumstances.
And, you know, we found ourselves kind of grabbing to things
and holding onto things just as people,
as prophetic people, just kind of in survival mode a bit.
And I'm curious if you have felt as prophetic people,
maybe even as a church or individuals,
have there been things that we've sort of lost
and we kind of need to get back to this morning, you know,
or just in this next season,
are there some things that we kind of need
to go after again, you know?
I mean, what a great question,
but I feel like we're in,
we are in such a transitional time in history.
And I feel like in the prophetic community,
one of the things that's switching is that
I feel like the Lord is hiding the future
as an invitation for us to create it.
Wow.
So rather than the prophetic community
trying to predict the future,
like, hey, this is what's gonna happen,
as if the script has already been written,
He's giving us a canvas and inviting us
to co-write the future with Him.
And I think through what we've been through
the last few years,
that the temptation is to live like a victim
of a pre-written timeline,
rather than to enter into the divine partnership
of co-creating with Christ.
The new things in the earth come,
Chris mentioned this last night from Isaiah 42, 9 and 10,
but the new things in the earth come through the new song
or the prophetic edge
that releases that new thing in the earth.
And so I really think there is actually like
the Lord is hiding a bit.
Like when I talk to seasoned prophets,
it's like, what do you see in the future?
And a lot of them aren't seeing or they aren't saying.
Is it like a bit of silence maybe?
Well, but I think the silence is an invitation.
I really, with all my heart,
I believe that we're making a transition
from understanding foretelling
to truly understanding foretelling.
And we're gonna be talking about that in sessions today,
but the foretelling is seeing the future
and the foretelling is causing the future.
And I believe with all my heart
that there's an invitation on the prophetic community
to find out what's in the heart of the father
and then actually to co-create it and co-release it with him.
Wow, it's really powerful.
That's really good.
I was even feeling this morning, like,
you know, it's interesting as you're coming out.
this season, there has been this level, I feel like, of wondering, have I lost touch
with my dreamer?
Have I lost touch with my visionary?
Because of that, there feels like this block, there feels like something I haven't been
able to work through or force through or find on the other side of this.
And I'm curious if anyone else has been feeling that way, kind of what Dana was saying.
If you've been feeling like, I feel like, yeah, I haven't been able to see what's coming.
Maybe there's something that's hidden.
And I want you to just sort of wave your hand, let us see if that is resonating with you.
Yeah.
And I want to speak over you guys.
You know that the gifts and calling of God are irrevocable, the scripture says.
And you know from little John, he says that the anointing you have from the Holy One remains
in you and it's real and it's not counterfeit.
And so we know that it's not the gift that is changed.
But because we know that the Lord will never leave us or forsake us, we know that whenever
there is a shift in the grace, it's not a leaving or it's not a less than because we're
going from glory to glory with ever increasing glory.
It's an invitation into the new.
It's beautiful.
Yeah.
It's really beautiful.
And I love that you're talking about Elijah going into the cave and talking about, oh,
actually the Lord didn't leave him in the cave.
He was right there.
He just, he needed to find him in that new, in that new circumstance.
It's really beautiful kind of what you're speaking to.
I saw Stacey Towles on the screen.
You were really highlighted to me as we were just speaking specifically about this that,
you know, the wondering is, is the Lord, you know, what is he showing me for this next
season?
And is he, is he hidden?
Is he?
Oh, there she is.
We can see your face right there, Stacey.
Hi.
And I just really felt even the Lord's speaking and saying that dream of your heart that you
thought maybe had been lost.
I feel specifically there, there was like a specific dream that you thought was supposed
to be for a specific season of your life.
And I felt like there might have been a questioning or wondering, did it, did that just not happen?
Did that get stolen away from me?
Did the enemy just steal that right from out underneath my feet?
And I just saw redemption written over you.
And I feel like the Lord is saying, no, no, no.
That season didn't pass.
I'm actually redeeming time.
I'm actually redeeming that dream.
Whatever it is that was hidden in your heart, that was something that you feel like, ah,
the time is over.
That time for that dream has passed.
I feel like the Lord is saying no, and he's actually highlighting it.
And I just, I speak to your heart and I just say, whatever disappointment or discouragement
in seeing this dream come to pass, I just speak, just encouragement.
There would be fresh vision and fresh hope in Jesus in this season to see that specific
dream come true.
And that it would be more than you could ask or imagine.
That it would be like 10 times fold.
Anything the enemy has tried to steal, that the Lord would turn like 10 times fold.
It would just be above and beyond any of your wildest dreams.
We just bless you, Stacey.
We're so excited that you're here.
Sweet, sweet.
So good.
Oh yeah.
Such a good word.
I love it.
Well, Dano, you're kind of known for prophetic community.
That's how I first kind of was introduced to Dano.
And I feel like if any of us can glean something from you this morning, things I want these
people to walk away with is, you know, it's interesting being on a Zoom call.
And often we feel like we might be the only prophetic person in our environment or in
our community.
And this is an amazing opportunity to connect with people, prophetic people from all over
the world.
But specifically, I heard you say last night that you feel like there's going to be more
prophets and people prophesying than ever before in history.
And I'm curious, maybe you could speak a little bit to that.
What it, you said, but not for any, not for no reason, but for a really, you know, specific
purpose.
Maybe you could speak to a bit about the purpose and why community is going to be so key for
us as prophets in this next season.
These are brilliant questions.
Isn't she amazing?
This is awesome.
Yeah, well, the prophetic community, if we look through the scripture, we see that the
healthiest time of all prophets was when they were living in prophetic community.
And that prophets went through the hardest times when they weren't in community.
And we're all built for a body.
We're all built, every dream, every vision was made to be fulfilled in the context of
a community or a body.
And I think there's been a tendency to isolate through misunderstanding.
Also when you're pioneering and you're forerunning, then, um.
then that can be kind of lonely too, you know,
because you're out front a little bit,
but that's why I think it's so important
that prophetic communities come together,
that we can run together out front, you know,
and there's such a hunger in this generation
for the new thing.
Yeah.
And so I think there's also an opportunity for community
like never before.
You know, there's a passage in Psalm 139
that we quote a lot,
but it's that his thoughts towards us
are as many as the sands of the seashore.
Well, I'm kind of analytical that way,
so I looked up how many sands there are there.
I did.
And it's like seven quintillion or something like that,
but is what they estimate.
But the idea is that if his good thoughts are in numbers,
we can't even quantify.
And his good thoughts are things he wants to release
in the earth,
but they're waiting for someone to see it,
to hear it, to agree with it,
to implement it within society.
That's why I believe that God is pouring out his spirit
in these last days on all flesh
so everybody can prophesy to release
all the new good things that are in the heart of the father.
It's gonna take an army.
Yeah.
That is incredible.
That is wonderful.
And you know, we've been speaking a lot about reformation.
That's kind of been the theme of this conference.
And I'm curious if you have seen prophetic voices
or maybe even your own prophetic voice
be a voice of reformation,
whether that's in the church and society,
but maybe just kind of cast some vision for our folks
just on the screen of what it might look like
to be a prophetic performer in this day.
I'm probably gonna do a whole session on this,
but I'll give you guys.
A little foretaste, okay?
So you guys are insiders right now.
Right, it's a VIP.
This is VIP, totally.
But I do believe that there are seasons of protesters
and seasons of reformers.
And the reformer, the protesters stand outside the gate
yelling what's wrong, holding signs, throwing stones.
And there've been times when the church
has called to protest what's going on.
But I actually believe that we're in a reformer season,
which is to get inside the system,
to find out what's good about the now
along with what's better about the future
and help plot the course, not just declare the promise,
but plot the course from what is good now
to what is better about the future.
And I think that's the heart of the reformer.
And that is the prophetic company
that we're endeavoring to partner with right now
in this season of people that are not focusing
on what's wrong with society,
but people that are actually providing the solutions
to the problems within society by not just declaring,
but actually entering the system
and be an agent of transformation.
Man, that is powerful.
Who is excited about that?
I love, I'm seeing the waves and the excitement.
Yes, we wanna be prophetic reformers.
We wanna be people that don't just talk about it,
but that are actually active
in seeing the reformation of that happen.
Yeah, so good.
Dano, how about in closing today,
you just pray for the people on the call
that they would feel the excitement for this next season
as prophets and prophetic people
and what the Lord is doing.
Thank you, God, that your sheep know your voice.
And every one of those gathered here
are your precious sheep who know your voice.
And that is the most powerful force in the universe.
One person plus God's already a majority.
You're already in his community.
And we release a sense of connectedness over you.
We release a sense of the destiny of this hour over you.
We let go of the former season and the past season.
And we take a hold of the promise
and the purpose of the future.
And Lord, we even take responsibility
for co-creating the future with you.
So Father, I release courage over your people.
I release depths of insight.
Lord, I release divine strategies over these prophets
and over these people training in the prophetic.
And Lord, I pray that there would be a clarity
that locks in that as we take responsibility
for challenges within our society,
that we could be the solutionaries
that would not just declare Jesus as the answer,
but show what the answers are.
And Lord, we ask it that your name would be glorified
and that your kingdom would be built.
So thank you that we get to.
partner with you in this way, in this generation.
Amen.
Amen. Thank you, Dano.
We'll see you guys tomorrow morning
for our next coffee chat.
Enjoy your day two of School of the Prophets.
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School of the Prophets. How is everyone? Anyone doing good? Yeah, you're doing well.
We've got all our friends joining us online. Hello, online audience. And all our friends in Brazil,
we want to say hello to you as well. We are so excited for what God is going to do this morning
and with our teams. How many of you enjoyed your community groups?
What about you online? Wave at me if you enjoyed your community groups.
They are so incredible, impactful. I believe that God is going to set up some unique encounters
in community group times. I really believe some of you, even physically, are going to get healed
in your community groups. Breakthroughs are going to happen in incredible ways.
I can't emphasize enough that community groups are really one of the most vital parts of what
we'll do here at School of the Prophets. So I want to make sure you're there and involved.
And then I want to also tell you we have a unique opportunity with our Transformation Center.
Our Transformation Center, it has SOZO, it has counseling, it has live coaching, all kinds of
stuff. But they are actually doing a special offer just for School of the Prophets. And all the way
through, I think, September 30th, there's a discount for you if you want to check out and
get a SOZO, which I think they're always awesome. SOZO's good. Like, I'm just going to make sure I'm
all good with everything. And SOZO is such an incredible and prophetic tool for health and
wholeness. And we want to make this available to you. And if you want to talk with any of our SOZO
team or our Transformation Center team, they're going to be out here in what we affectionately
call the donut. It's this little donut-shaped information booth right out front. Does that,
any of you, make you crave donuts? I love donuts. And not those paleo, like gluten-free,
so like, no, like free fat donuts, where the, it's free fat. The fat's all free in there.
Full sugar donuts, that's the donut I'm talking about. What were we talking about?
Transformation Center, that's right. They're going to be over there. We're so excited to
partner with them. And then also, for those of you that are doing community group over at our
Twinview campus, we're going to put up a slide so you know where not to park. See, this big
building A and building B is where we're meeting. And you can see those on the screens. But please
don't park in these red zones because there's a business there, Chascade there, that does business
and they need those spots for parking. So when you're over there, please don't park in those
spots. You can do that, right? You're good, kind, nice, prophetic parkers.
Well, we're going to jump in this morning and we're going to go after some things. And really,
we felt like, as a group of leaders, when we were talking about School of Prophets 2022,
we began to realize that every year that we do this, the biggest amount of questions aren't
around prophets. It was more around the foundations and the essentials of prophecy.
And so we thought, hey, yes, we feel like that theme of prophetic reformers is so important to
the overall goal of our school. But what we wanted to do as well is, hey, let's take the
first two days and take our team and actually re-dig the wells of all of our foundations and
the essentials in the prophetic. And I'll tell you, at least for my own personal experience,
I get to train in the prophetic all over the world. And I do this all the time. Foundations
in the prophetic is so important to me. But I find this, no matter how many times I've taught it
or I've heard it, I am always learning and I'm always growing. And so I expect that in all of
our times with all of our speakers, even in the essential stuff,
God's gonna unpack it in ways that you've never experienced it before and he's going to mature us and
Grow us in a way that I I don't know that you can always
Expect
Especially with foundation and maybe you're sitting back there like well, I know all this stuff
Yeah, well, let's know it in another way
Let's know it in another level and if we'll stay humble we'll continually grow in ways
We couldn't expect before and and to kick us off this morning. We've got an
amazing South African woman
and I say South Africa because she's a little crazy and
It's legal for her to be crazy and she is awesome. She is so powerful
she's part of our senior leadership team and she is
One of our senior prophets here at Bethel Church and is just such a treasure
To all of us and her passion for God and her passion for intimacy with him has so transformed us
And we live in a richness because of this woman
Will you stand your feet and welcome Haley Braun as she shares with us this morning?
Oh
Hello, hello, why don't you stay standing?
let's just honor the Lord just take a minute just to
Just to just make note that the Holy Spirit is here. Thank you. Holy Spirit that you are here
Why don't you just pray out in the spirit right now? Just activate your spirit, man
Sure. No, no more. So don't know. Yeah
We welcome you Jesus
Just make yourself aware that he is here
God wants to meet with us the spirit of wisdom and revelation wants to reveal
Jesus wants to reveal the thoughts of the Father wants to glorify and magnify the beautiful Son
Holy Spirit we honor you today
We honor your presence
Exaltee
I
Exaltee
We welcome you here God
For thou oh Lord
Art high above all the earth
Thou art exalted
Far above all gods
For thou oh Lord
Art high above all the earth
Thou art exalted
Far above
All
God
So let your spirit rise as we sing I exalt thee and I
Exalt thee
Holy rise to meet you God I
Exalt thee
Holy lift your name on high
Exaltee
Oh
Holy lift high the name of Jesus
And I
Exaltee oh you're worthy worthy worthy
Exaltee
How we love your name
Exaltee
Yeah, Jesus we exalt you today, we love your name
You are worthy of our praise.
You are worthy of our worship.
And God, as we step into teaching God,
we know that we are honoring you, God,
by revealing the beauty of the mysteries of the gospel,
the beauty of the outpouring of your Holy Spirit.
God, would you open our minds and our hearts
and our spirits to receive the beauty of the revelation
of the risen King who is high above it all,
exalted the name above every name,
the name above every kingdom, every king.
You are the King of kings, the Lord of lords,
seated alone in glory, the matchless one,
full of majesty, splendor, and glory.
We magnify you, beautiful, beautiful King.
We magnify you, God.
Let our lives magnify you, God.
Let our teaching magnify your heart.
Woo, woo, in Jesus' name, amen.
Oh, look at someone next to you and say, I love Jesus.
Oh, oh, amen.
You can be seated.
Shurubo sererere, ererere, enamazo.
Thank you, Holy Spirit.
Woo, I gotta be careful I don't get too messed up right now.
We gotta teach some essential foundations.
But you know what, I am so excited today.
When I was reading through the notes
of what I was asked to prepare for today,
I was asking the Lord, God, I want fresh manna.
I want fresh bread.
It says in Ephesians 1 that the Holy Spirit
is a spirit of wisdom and revelation.
That right now, this is worship unto the Lord
as we look into the Scriptures
and we look into what His heart is for the prophetic.
And you're all given a manual.
When you signed up for class,
if you don't have it here, that's okay.
We're not gonna run through it chronologically
in the manual, but that manual is fantastic.
It carries so much meat and so much information
and so much revelation.
And so I wanna encourage you,
even after you hear these essentials,
to go back and revisit the manual.
Go and read what is in there
to lay a foundation.
You know, a lot of the church isn't even sure
if we should be prophesying.
A lot of the church thinks
that the five-fold ministry has ceased.
And we're gonna talk today a little bit about that,
why we prophesy, how we prophesy,
who decided we should prophesy.
Can I tell you, we are created beings.
The world is obsessed right now with personality tests.
We even, you know, I remember being raised in a,
I was raised in a Methodist church.
Thanks, Lord, for my roots.
I'm so grateful.
And I remember doing spiritual gift tests,
but without talking about the Spirit.
And we're all looking up,
kind of according to our personalities,
what our spiritual gifts were.
You know why we're looking up our personality types?
Some of you hate personality tests, that's okay.
But we're looking them up
because we actually don't know ourselves.
We want tests, we want all these things to test ourselves
because we didn't make ourselves.
So many times we're wanting to wrap our theology
around our understanding,
but we weren't actually created by us.
We were created by a God
who lives outside of space and time.
He lives outside of our skin, outside of our limitation.
I like to say that man-made religion makes sense to man,
but a God-breathed theology only makes sense to God.
And we are welcomed into this beautiful mystery,
and we are not without a helper.
And when we use the word helper,
we're not just talking about like a little extra assistance.
We're talking about the living, breathing presence
of the mighty and magnificent God.
The Holy Spirit isn't an addition to the Godhead.
He is the third person of the Godhead,
not ranked number three, but vital.
And He is the gift of the Father and of Jesus to the church.
There's not one thing that you are called to do in God
without the empowerment of the Holy Spirit.
And again, I don't mean empowerment
like He's propping you up at your elbows.
I mean, He is filling you and resting upon you.
God is so personal that He doesn't come as a tool
to your aid, but He gives of Himself to those who He calls.
Amen.
How wild is that?
He doesn't just assist with advice.
He assists with all of Himself,
with the fullness of Himself poured out.
Hmm, I'm gonna let that sit for a bit.
I've known the Lord my whole life,
but I wanna tell you, I had a radical encounter
with the Holy Spirit that transformed the way
that I saw Him for the rest of my life.
I realized I was crying out for God to fill a room
when He wanted to fill me.
I'd made it an impersonal thing where I,
cause you know, it was easier for me to believe
that God would wanna fill a room.
because I was acquainted with my own weakness.
And this is what I wanna talk about today.
And you know, a lot of people think that prophecy
is really accustomed with the Old Testament.
But I wanna tell you Old Testament prophecy,
it's beautiful and powerful.
And in fact, one of the sessions I'm gonna be teaching
from the Old Testament.
But Old Covenant prophecy was based on a covenant
that was surpassed by a greater covenant.
Old Covenant prophecy was there to reveal
a need for a savior.
It was there to reveal a God who was longing for his people,
but was separated from them by sin.
God didn't become loving in the New Covenant.
God has always been a God of love.
And he cannot change his nature.
It says that there's no shadow of turning with him.
That means that he is facing you
and looking at you every moment of every day,
ready to be present to your every need,
to your calls and your cries, wanting to meet you.
But sin was standing in the way of him and his beloved.
And so under this Old Covenant,
and really it was under the Adamic Covenant,
so the covenant that God made with Adam.
And the covenant that God made with Adam was,
listen, you will have authority, you will have rule,
you will have reign, you will have dominion.
Are you guys good if we get into some theology today?
Are you guys ready?
You got your theology brains on?
Your spirit theology brains?
We need those.
The Adamic Covenant was based on Adam's ability
to keep up his end of the deal,
which was God was like,
I'll give you rule and reign of a creation.
You will carry authority to manage the beasts of the field
and creation, so the ground, I can't think of the words,
I'm so sorry, fruit, vegetables, all that stuff.
He got to be the boss of it all,
provided that he didn't do what?
Eat from the knowledge,
the tree from the knowledge of good and evil.
And under his inability to keep covenant with God,
sin entered the world.
How beautiful though that in the midst of the curse,
so there's a curse released on man and woman,
but right at the end,
God prophesied at the end of the curse.
And he prophesied that the seed of Jesus
will come through the lineage of woman.
And that even though the enemy will bruise or heal,
that seed will crush his head.
Even in the midst of Adam and Eve failing
to keep up the end of covenant,
the Lord begins to prophesy a new covenant.
A covenant that is gonna come through the lineage
of flesh and it's gonna crush the head of the serpent.
And so old covenant prophecy was there
to reveal we need a saviour.
We are fallen, we cannot make it on our own.
And it was a bunch of revelation of,
we can't make it on our own.
I was gonna say we suck,
but maybe that's not really appropriate.
We don't, I mean, we're beloved of God.
We were always the beloved of God,
but we couldn't make it in our own righteousness.
Even in our own attempts to be holy, we couldn't make it.
We couldn't reach communion and union with the Lord
the way that He designed it and desires for it to be.
And so we have Jesus, who is the seed of the,
He becomes the second Adam, the seed of a woman from Mary,
and He enters a new covenant.
And this covenant is no longer a covenant
between God and man.
This is a covenant between God and God.
Father, Son, and Holy Spirit get together
and they decide we're gonna make a covenant of redemption.
And this covenant of redemption,
we aren't gonna send a man, we're gonna send ourselves.
I will tell you, no one crucified Jesus.
Jesus willingly laid down His life.
Sometimes people think that the Father sent Jesus
and Jesus was a victim.
No, Jesus came, He was part of this covenant moment,
Father, Son, and Holy Spirit,
and He covenanted to close the gap between man and God.
And now the church is born.
Jesus is crucified, He is resurrected,
and He descends down into the depths of the earth, they say,
which means He goes back to the pit of hell
where the enemy had taken the keys
that Adam had given to Him.
And Jesus comes back in Matthew 28
and He hands the keys back to the people of God.
And He says, now all authority I give to you.
And not just does He give us the keys of authority,
but He gives us the precious Holy Spirit.
In John 16, He says, it is better that I should go.
John 14, 15, and 16 is this wild moment.
The disciples are in anguish, they are upset,
they are lacking peace.
And Jesus says, do not let your hearts be troubled.
Could you imagine being one of the 12
and hearing Jesus say, it is better that I should go?
I would have been like, are you crazy?
You've been drinking too much of the Holy juice.
How could it have been better for them
that Jesus would go?
Well, because Jesus was about to release God unlimited.
God, outside of skin, outside of time,
outside of humanity now.
We're seeing the fulfilment of the prophecy in Joel 2
that says,
in the last days, I will pour out my spirit on?
In the last days, I will pour out my spirit on?
And now we're seeing the fulfilment of a prophecy
of the old covenant,
where God is no longer pouring out His Spirit on one.
Old covenant, the Spirit of God
enabled a prophet to prophesy
according to what he was called to do.
So the Spirit of God would rest on someone for a call,
for an outworking.
Now the Spirit of God is not limited to a call
or to an office,
but the Spirit of God is there for all flesh.
Are you with me?
This Holy Spirit isn't,
He's no joke.
You know, I used to think that the greatest effect
of prophecy was that someone received a word from God.
I used to think if I was prophesying over Bethany,
the greatest blessing was Bethany was receiving a word.
Until I realised God Himself was speaking to me
about Bethany.
You see now in the new covenant,
prophecy is no longer revealing a need for God
as much as it is revealing a God of love.
A God who has come,
a God who is victorious
and a God who has now given His people a new identity.
New covenant prophecy, Paul says in 1 Corinthians 14,
is for the building up and the edification of the church.
Why would we need to build up and edify the church?
Because the church has now just been introduced
into a season.
I'm gonna use a big word, an eschatological season.
So we're talking about eschatology, right?
A season of Jesus has been revealed,
but Jesus is still to come.
And the revelation of what is to come
in the establishment of Jesus' complete rule and reign
with a new Jerusalem is to be revealed
through the people of God
who are carrying the Spirit of God.
And Paul in 1 Corinthians 14
is focusing prophecy now on building up the church
so they can reveal the risen Christ.
Colossians 1 27,
Christ in you, the hope of glory.
Where does the world see hope?
In you.
You are the revelation of a world that is to come.
Your life is a revelation of a new eschatology,
which is Christ has come,
Christ is risen and Christ will come again.
And my life is revealing a kingdom
that you don't see in your own life.
And so New Testament prophecy
is not to uncover our failure,
but to build a church to step into her new inheritance
so that the world will know
that Jesus Christ is victorious
and He is coming again for a bride.
The New Testament church has been handed the keys
to vanquish the enemy.
Our job is to destroy the works of the enemy
and reveal a kingdom that is here now.
So much of the time we get caught up in the not yet,
but what about the now?
There is something so glorious coming
and we have the privilege of revealing that glory now.
And the church needs encouragement.
You know, it's so interesting,
you know, we have these passages, 1 Corinthians 12,
which is talking all about the gifts of the Spirit.
And Paul says now regarding the spiritual gifts,
but actually that word is the Spirit, it's the spiritual.
He's talking to a Corinthian church.
So the church of Corinth,
they were really spiritual people.
They actually were incredibly connected
to the spirit realm,
but they thought that there were many spirits.
And so they get introduced into this beautiful Jesus,
the power of the Holy Spirit.
I love the baptism of the Holy Spirit.
Ladies and gentlemen,
the church needs the baptism of the Holy Spirit.
We need every wineskin to be filled with the wine.
Continually filled, fully, fully filled.
Luke 11, in fact, when talks about,
it says that your father,
he won't give you a snake instead of a fish
or a scorpion instead of an egg.
How much more will he give the Holy Spirit to those who ask?
The context of that passage
is people who will ask, seek and knock.
It's a continual request.
It's a continual, I recognise, I need you.
If your life, oh, I'm being intense,
maybe I gotta back up.
I was gonna say, if your life fits in the framework
of what you can do, I'd like to challenge you.
I feel so out of my depth sometimes.
I'm like, I'm a mom of three little kids.
I lead a school of ministry.
I'm doing.
Senior leadership team things now.
I travel.
My kids are little.
I'm not talking about grown kids.
I thought like I would be called to ministry
when my kids were growing,
I could keep my car and my house clean.
I thought I'd feel confident, powerful, ready,
pulled like a lioness.
Lion of the tribe of Judah roaring out of me, you know?
I thought I'd feel amazing.
God didn't call me when I was ready.
God just called me when I was willing.
Amen.
And if we reduce what God calls us to
to what we're able to do,
we're gonna live in a measure
of living on the power of our gift
and not the power of the anointing.
I wanna tell you the anointing is a person.
The anointing is not a thing.
It's not an object.
It is a person and he has feelings.
His name is the Holy Spirit
and he is sensitive to your longing.
And the gift of prophecy,
when we talk about 1 Corinthians 12,
Paul is pointing out that all of these gifts you see
is the manifestation of one Spirit.
And these gifts, they're not rewards.
They're not how much you got right in your life.
Can I tell you what?
I was born with a measure of the gift of prophecy.
I just came out the womb
and I knew things that people didn't know.
But nobody knew what to do with me.
I kind of grew up on the wild side of the spiritual realm.
No one was teaching me this.
I wasn't in an environment where people were teaching me
about eschatology and about the move of the Spirit.
And I was taught how to love Jesus.
I was taught the Bible stories.
I'm so grateful.
But the things of the Spirit,
I was kind of put on the outside
in my own little tabernacle to learn my own.
I would hear people's thoughts
and I thought everyone could hear them.
And I'd pray things for people
and people would be like,
how do you know that about me?
And I'm like, I don't know how I know that about you.
Little kid at 12 in my Methodist church,
I found myself on stage prophesying
and I didn't know what prophecy was.
My dad, I remember he tells me,
he was sitting in the front row just like,
who is this child?
They were singing, this is the air I breathe.
I remember being at the front.
I've loved Jesus all my life.
I will tell you that.
I really love Jesus.
And some of you, you got kids in this room,
I wanna tell you, your children can love Jesus
all their lives.
They don't have to depart from that.
I wanna speak that as a declaration,
as an impartation for you.
I never had a wild season away from the Lord.
And I was on the front.
They were singing, this is the air I breathe.
And they're singing, I'm desperate for you.
And I was bawling my eyes out as a 12 year old.
And I remember thinking in my head,
why am I crying so much?
And all of a sudden I'm standing on the stage.
I don't know what got me from the altar to the stage.
And I start prophesying about people
who are carrying a spirit of suicide,
that the Lord wants to break off
and you're desperate for God
and you desperately need Him in your life.
And you told the Lord, if I don't meet with you tonight,
it's it for me.
And that night, seven people got delivered
from a spirit of suicide and got saved.
I wanna tell you, that was not because I earned something.
I was still back talking my mom.
I still thought I knew everything all the time.
You know, 12 year olds.
But the Lord had given me a measure of gift.
Romans 11, 29, I believe it is,
that the gifts of God are irrevocable.
That's why you see the gifts of God
operating in the secular world still.
You can have a gift of influence on your life
or leadership and you can actually be influencing
without the power of the Spirit.
But Paul in 1 Corinthians 12,
he's trying to remind them, listen, this is one Spirit.
And in this one Spirit who now indwells in you
and rests upon you,
all of the gifts can be made manifest in your life.
If you make connection, because it follows then,
you see like, if you make connection with God,
sorry, I was jumping ahead of myself.
If you actually live in connection with the Lord,
that the gifts of the Holy Spirit
can flow through your lives.
It's not according to how well you do,
but you can steward the gift.
So you can grow the gift.
But then what's so interesting is this,
and I've never, I didn't know this
till I started doing research for this message,
but in 1 Corinthians 13,
Paul, it seems like Paul kind of jumps
into a different message for one chapter.
But he's not writing in a chapter, right?
This is an entire letter.
So he's not jumping to a different message.
He starts saying,
if I speak in the language of angels and tongues,
but I have not love, we all know this.
Everyone reads it at weddings.
Love is patient, love is kind, love is gentle.
Do you know why Paul is addressing
the language of angels and tongues
in the middle of the spiritual gifts?
It's because the people of Corinth
had elevated themselves to spiritual superiority,
and they were utilising the gift of tongues
and the language of angels
to make them spiritually superior and not serve one another.
And Paul, in his view, has a recognition
that all of the gifts are to build up the church,
not to build up our ego.
And so, off of the passage of love,
where he's actually correcting the people of Corinth,
saying, listen, you are misusing this gift to make.
yourself seem spiritual, to make yourself seem wonderful,
to set you apart from everyone else.
And you're forgetting that the role is not for you
to become some spiritual hierarchy,
but for you to become a blessing to the world,
to build up the church and to bring reformation
so the bride can meet the groom.
And off of 1 Corinthians 13, then he says,
pursue love and earnestly desire the gift of prophecy.
Let's read that, shall we?
Are you guys doing okay?
Redebe shinde rebe.
I love the Bible.
Can I tell you something?
I wanna say this.
I wanna make sure we say this.
The Bible is prophecy.
We're not talking about one kind of prophecy
and another kind of prophecy.
We actually, in this generation,
we need to have a value for the written word of God.
The written word of God is under siege
in the spiritual realm.
It is under attack in the spiritual realm
and people are making up their own truth.
This is my truth.
And ain't nobody can challenge me on my truth
unless there's one God.
And then there's only one truth.
And often when we, as people,
we can elevate what we prefer.
And us as very spiritual people,
if you're in this room, you're either a prophet
or someone that moves powerfully in the prophetic
or hungry to move powerfully in the prophetic.
And sometimes we can elevate the Rhema word of God
over the Logos word of God,
forgetting it's the same spirit
that's giving utterance to both.
In fact, I was trying to plug my iPad in earlier.
It's, pray for it, it's on 14% battery.
Let's see how we go.
And I realised it wasn't charging.
I'd had it plugged in.
And when I started playing with the plug,
it started sparking.
And it reminded me of a word that Bob Jones gave,
I believe around 2010.
Where he was taken into a vision of a building.
And in this building, he switched on the lights
and it flashed and it went off.
And he went up in the spirit into the ceiling
of the building and he noticed that it had a live wire,
but no grounding wire.
And he spoke about the need for the Logos word of God,
the grounding wire of the Lord.
And as I was playing with my plug and it was sparking,
I was reminded that when we only have the Rhema word of God,
we're a flash in the pan.
But it's the Logos word of God that grounds us,
that tests the Rhema word of God
and gives it sustainable power.
The Spirit of God hovers over the Word
and He's there waiting to reveal Himself to us
in the Word.
God is here.
And a revelation of His heart is here.
The beauty about prophecy is that we get to climb
into the heart of God and reveal it to the world.
Prophecy is a revelation of the heart of God.
It says that the Holy Spirit knows the thoughts
of the Father.
This world needs to know the thoughts of a loving Father,
of a good God, of a God that's waiting for them
to come running down the road full of pig filth.
This generation knows their shame.
This generation knows their guilt,
but this generation does not know a Jesus
that is coming for a bride.
This generation doesn't know a glorious kingdom
that wants to redeem them, transform them,
and change their lives and fill them
with the love of the Father.
And this is what Paul is saying.
He's saying the church doesn't need more issues of sin.
The church needs to be built up to run this race.
And I don't think when they were writing this,
I don't know if they were aware how long
we were gonna run this race in this generation.
I think they thought that Jesus was coming back a lot sooner.
We're gonna touch a wheel.
Okay, I'm gonna read 1 Corinthians 14.
Are you guys doing okay?
I can go on tangents.
I just wanna tell you that.
Hallelujah.
Pursue love yet desire earnestly spiritual gifts,
but especially that you may prophesy.
For the one who speaks in a tongue
does not speak to men but to God.
For no one understands,
but in his spirit he speaks mysteries.
But the one who prophesies speaks to men
for the edification, the exhortation, and the consolation.
The one who speaks in tongues edifies himself,
but the one who prophesies edifies the church.
Paul later on, he's like, he's not diminishing tongues.
Tongues are wonderful, but when we raise tongues,
when we raise our spirituality above our service,
we are missing the point.
We're missing the design that God created in us
to reveal his heart and what he longs for
is to build up his people.
You know, just because you can discern it
doesn't mean we should say it.
Amen.
And there's both sides on that in prophecy.
I have discerned, I've discerned negative things
on people's lives, but you know what?
I've also discerned.
desires in people's lives.
You can prophesy someone's desires,
but you're just discerning.
And you can actually prophesy their desire
to pay attention to how powerful you are.
Are you hearing me?
I see it sometimes as we raise up people in the prophetic
where we're prophesying lots of stadiums,
lots of books, lots of hierarchy, lots of power,
lots of outward recognition.
That feels really good.
And you know what?
There's nothing wrong with that if God is saying that.
But the Lord is not actually desiring
that everybody be famous.
The Lord is desiring that we build up the church.
And if we build them up from a podium
or we build them up from within the grocery store,
if we build up our three-year-old within our home,
or we build them up within our computer industry
or our IT or our tech,
God is not looking to build up you
on your Instagram platform.
He's looking to build up the church.
And as prophets and prophetic people,
we get to partner with Him.
Rende besheredeh.
As I was preparing for this and thinking about this,
I was thinking, what are we building?
Do you know that we are building Christ in people?
In Galatians 4.19, Paul says that I am again in birth
until the formation of Christ is fully formed in you.
Paul is in anguish in Galatians.
He doesn't know why they've kind of fallen off the path.
And he's saying, I'm staying in this.
Ladies, if you've ever given birth,
you know that it is no joke.
I gave birth three times.
It is intense.
There's a point in birth,
right before you give birth to a baby,
that you think, I cannot do this.
I remember thinking, I swallowed a watermelon.
This is all a lie.
Somebody cut me open and get this thing out.
I am done.
I'm just being honest with you.
People talked about heavenly births.
I was heaven until I had to push.
And then I was like, what just happened?
I remember watching these videos.
Women are like, it's the best thing ever.
I'm like, I was believing for it.
I had radical heavenly encounters in labor.
Can I tell you, there's nothing like pain
to draw heaven close.
Pain will make you cling to God.
But Paul is describing his passion
to see Christ formed in the Church of Galatians.
He's likening it to birth, to an intense longing.
That's not me making up words as a woman.
That's Paul.
And he's saying, there's this longing for Christ
to be formed in you.
This is the same Paul that rose
first and second Corinthians.
This is the same Paul that rose first
and second Thessalonians.
This man is really the man who's writing
about the Spirit of God and the spiritual gifts.
And he's longing to see Christ formed.
That's what we get to do as people who prophesy.
We get to begin to see the beginning formations
of Jesus in someone,
and we get to begin to form it with our words.
We begin to start building an identity, a new identity,
so that when people hear this,
they are amazed and they give their lives
to this King that is building himself inside of them.
Ephesians 1, 7 says that,
in him we have redemption through his blood
for the forgiveness of our trespasses
according to his riches in grace.
And then I want you to open up to Ephesians 1,
if that's okay, and we're gonna go from verse 18,
maybe a little before.
I just wanna say this real quick,
that when we're talking about prophecies
for edification and building up,
these aren't like fluffy words.
These aren't just like I'm simply saying nice things to you.
This isn't a, you know, I think we sometimes,
how do I say this?
When you're trying to raise up a lot of people to prophesy,
you have to put the bar quite low to start.
When my children start sliding down slides,
they don't start on the biggest one at the park,
they start at the baby slide.
But sometimes what we've done is sometimes
we've made the entrance bar,
we've kept people on milk
when it's time to graduate to meet.
And this is what we're doing here.
We're saying, hey, we've received milk,
but it's time to graduate to meet.
And here prophecy isn't simply saying nice things about you,
prophecy is discerning what the Lord is building in someone
and calling it forth
so they can step into their prophetic identity.
Prophecy is forth telling,
which means it doesn't exist in you yet,
but as I speak it out,
create a God who spoke and the world was formed,
I can actually speak out in accordance with His heart,
not with my heart,
accordance with His whisper, with His breath,
I partner with Him and I co-labour what He is creating
and I speak it out
and it begins to become formed in someone.
That is forth telling, I'm calling it out of you.
You don't see it yet, you don't know it yet.
I want to tell you, some people foretold some things
that I thought, oh no, they were like,
you're gonna speak to the nations, the mother to nations,
you're gonna speak to thousands of people.
I thought, no, I'm scared to speak to four.
But they were foretelling,
they were calling something out of me
that I couldn't see in myself.
And then foretelling is saying
of something that is to come.
There's something to come in your life,
and it's prophesying the future.
And this foretelling where we're calling forth,
we are literally calling forth Christ in people.
I want to read Ephesians one.
And then I've got to move on.
This is probably my favorite scripture right now.
Paul says, I pray that the eyes of your heart
may be enlightened so that you will know
what is the hope of his calling.
Can I tell you, it is hard to prophesy
the hope of his calling if you do not know what it is.
Paul's prayer over the church in Ephesus
is that the eyes of their heart,
so their spirit would be opened
to understand the hope of his calling,
which are, now he describes what is the hope,
which are the riches of his glorious inheritance
in the saints.
Some of us are waiting for heaven
to find the richness of his glorious inheritance,
but he put the richness of his glorious inheritance
in those who believe in Jesus
and have been filled by the power of his Spirit.
The riches of his glorious inheritance
is that his Spirit lives and dwells in you.
It didn't bypass some of you who are less gifted
or less talented or have less education.
No, it is for everyone.
It is for the hairdresser from South Africa.
That's me.
A 22-year-old that came to Bethel Church,
knew nothing of prophecy, walked through those doors,
and I knew, I make sense now.
All of a sudden, I began to realise
that the Spirit of God wasn't looking for my strength.
He was just looking for my weakness.
He was just saying, hey, if I could fill you,
you're gonna find a glorious inheritance in me.
And what, the inheritance in the saints, verse 19,
and what is the surpassing greatness
of his power towards us who believe?
These are in accordance with the working
of the strength of his might,
which he brought about in Christ
when he raised Him from the dead
and seated Him at the right hand in heavenly places.
You know, often we say the same Spirit
that raised Christ from the dead lives in you.
That is true, but the same Spirit
that raised Christ from the dead
and then seated Him in heavenly places lives in you.
Could you imagine the power that was exerted
to take Jesus from the earth
and seat Him at the right hand of the Father?
Can you imagine the power,
the transformational power within the Spirit of God
to take Christ in bodily form
and seat Him in the spirit realm alongside the Father?
This is the spirit of prophecy.
This is the spirit that empowers prophecy,
a spirit that is so powerful, so transformational,
lives inside believers and is looking to get out,
to build the church.
So, I saw an Instagram post recently
and it said, zero times 10, my dad's a mathematician,
so he'll be proud of me, dad, if you're watching.
Zero times 10 equals zero, but zero plus one equals one.
You know, a lot of times we can get into a spiritual frenzy,
but we're actually not adding anything to the body.
A lot of times we can get really anxious about things
and it can feel like we're doing a lot of work,
but we actually aren't adding anything.
And a lot of times you can see a lot of people
doing very impressive things,
but it's not about zero times 10,
it's about, are you taking one step?
You know, even in this room, in your community groups,
you maybe are with people that have been doing this
for a long time and you can diminish
the power of God flowing through you
because it doesn't look like the person next to you.
It doesn't sound like the person next to you.
When I was called to be a prophet,
I didn't have an experience with Jesus walking into my room
and talking to me in the bathtub.
Does that mean I'm not a prophet?
This isn't about someone else's journey,
this is about the Holy Spirit who personally wants
to fill you and rest upon you so that you can build up
the church with the power of the prophetic gift.
And if you earnestly desire it, He will give it to you.
He longs, if He will not give you a snake
when you ask for a fish, how much more will your Father
give you the Holy Spirit to those who ask?
Now, the difference between prophecy and the prophet,
we're just gonna touch on this real quick
and then Ben is gonna come share.
Some of you might need a little exercise.
Guys, you're in.
School, hey?
This is not Conference of the Prophets,
this is School of the Prophets.
I'm so glad you're so encouraging.
You're very kind.
Let's go to Ephesians four.
Here in a mama soul.
I just wanna say this,
one of the greatest lies that is facing the church
is that we have to be famous to do something effective.
That we have to have thousands of Instagram followers
or a TikTok account or,
you know, God can use all of those platforms
and people that do have thousands
or millions of followers, praise God.
Let them be a megaphone to the world,
but God isn't looking for a grandiose offering,
He's just looking for obedience.
He's just looking for your obedience.
I wanna tell you,
we're gonna read about the call of a prophet.
When I got, I didn't have a big moment,
a big la-di-da prophet moment.
In fact, last year at School of the Prophets,
they asked the question of,
when was I commissioned to be a prophet?
I said, never have been.
And they commissioned me on stage.
I was called out.
It wasn't about how grand the event was,
it was about steps of obedience and faithfulness.
That is what the Lord looks for.
He's not looking for big outward expressions of sacrifice.
In fact, when Saul was asked to go kill,
I think it was the Amalekites,
I know it was King Agog,
he was asked to kill all of them,
including their livestock, all their people.
And what he did was,
he did part of what he was asked to do,
but he kept the choice animals and the king alive.
And Samuel came and said,
God regrets that he anointed you as king.
And Saul said, but I kept all these things
to sacrifice to the Lord.
All these big expressions of wealth and favour.
And the Lord said, I don't want your sacrifice,
I want your obedience.
Sometimes people have a lot to offer.
The Lord's not looking about how much you have,
He's just looking for what you have.
You need to know this,
the Lord is looking for what you have.
The Lord is wanting to come back for a bride.
He's looking for a bride
and He's not looking for the apostle,
the prophet, the apostle to do the work.
He's looking for the saints to rise up.
And this is what the prophet gets to do.
And so Ephesians four,
verse six, verse seven, let's go verse seven.
But to each one of us,
grace was given according to the measure of Christ's gift.
Here's the first kind of difference.
The Holy Spirit gives the gift of prophecy,
but the grace on the office of a prophet
is a gift of Christ.
Have you ever heard someone say,
oh, you think you're God's gift to the world?
The fivefold ministry is.
But in God's kingdom, leadership is servanthood.
Leadership is not hierarchy.
So Christ's gift to the world
says that you get to lay a foundation,
not be the pinnacle.
So that you get to be the one that people walk on,
not the one that stands on them.
Therefore it says,
when He ascended on high,
He led captive to the host of captives
and He gave the gifts to men.
You know how undeserving we are of this?
And yet He is so deserving.
Isn't it wild that the very creation that crucified Him,
He came back to hand authority to?
He didn't go, no, I'm done.
Go to the angels, we'll go figure it out.
You can just end this thing on the earth.
We'll wait till you're done
and then we'll establish a new heaven and new earth.
No, the very creation that failed Him,
He didn't change His plan
because God is a covenant-keeping God.
His plan was to redeem us
and then to give Himself to us, to reveal Himself.
Do you know that God doesn't technically need us?
Technically, you know when you're like,
God's asking for my money.
Do you know that God doesn't actually need your money?
God's asking for my dreams.
God actually has enough dreams.
God's asking for my gift.
He is the giver.
God, the terminology, I can't think of the word.
I'm so sorry, I'm struggling today.
But the definition of poor in spirit
is that I recognise I can add nothing to God.
But God is a God of love and relationship
and He does not want to do it
without the ones that He loves.
So God wrote into the story His prophets and His people
because He wants to reveal His heart through His beloved.
He wrote His need for you into the story
and He's not gonna change it.
He doesn't change His mind.
There's no shadow of turning.
You are on this planet for such a time as this
because He desires to move and breathe
and live inside of you.
you and reveal His glory through your life.
He wrote the story, that's how He wants it.
No matter how insecure you feel,
no matter how unworthy you feel,
no matter what your mom or your dad or your teacher
or your pastor or the preacher
or the guy on TikTok said about you,
it doesn't matter to God
because He has chosen you
before the foundations of the world.
You are His redemption plan.
Amen.
Okay, we're gonna keep talking about prophets.
Verse nine, now this expression, He ascended,
what does this mean except that He also descended
into the lower parts of the earth?
He who descended is Himself,
also He who ascended far above all the heavens
so that He might fill all things.
So beautiful.
All He gave, and He gave some as apostles
and some as prophets and some as evangelists
and some as pastors and some as teachers
for the equipping of the saints for the work of service
to the building up of the body of Christ
until we attain the unity of faith
and the knowledge of the Son of God
to a mature man to the measure of the stature
which belongs to the fullness of Christ.
I'm gonna say that again, it's a lot of words.
Until we attain, so He gave the fivefold,
apostles, prophets, evangelists, teachers, pastors, why?
So that they would become a unity of the body of Christ,
so the spirit of religion would be vanquished among us,
that we would stop fighting one another
with the weapons of the Spirit and start fighting the enemy
so that we could attain unity of the faith,
the knowledge of the Son of God to a mature man,
that we would become mature
in our knowledge of the Son of God
to the measure of the stature
which belongs to the fullness of Christ.
A lot of people think that the apostolic and the prophetic,
it's somehow just dwindled away
after the apostles went to heaven.
There was, there's actually different words
used for the 12 apostles
than there is for the apostolic fivefold grace.
Junia is actually a later day apostle,
she's a woman as well, I just thought I'd mention her.
Some people don't think women
should be doing what I'm doing.
I'd like to read the Bible to you.
Thank you.
Thanks Chris, yeah.
You know, we don't have anything to prove to anyone,
we just be who we call to be.
And the message of the Lord will shine through our lives
and they will know we are Christians for how we love.
But here, you know, for some reason
we're okay calling people pastors or teachers,
where we struggle with apostles and prophets.
But here it literally says that until
there's the unity of the saints,
the knowledge of Christ and the mature man,
and then like the stature belongs to the fullness of Christ
until we're seeing the fullness of Christ in the body,
the apostles, prophets, evangelists, pastors and teachers
are there to serve the church.
And we have not seen the fullness,
we have not seen the fullness of unity,
we have not seen the fullness of Christ in the body.
And this is what prophets get to do.
Now listen, I wanna tell you,
becoming a prophet is not being a very prophetic person
that all of a sudden became a prophet.
It's not like you get better and better at prophecy
and then you become a prophet.
And being a prophet doesn't make you
more special than a saint.
What it does is it delineates your function.
And for me, when I discovered that I was a prophet,
it was helpful in understanding my function as a leader.
So I was actually, I was a revival group pastor
here in our school, and Chris won't even remember this
because he said it so offhandedly.
So first thing, when I was in second year,
I was sitting next to a woman, you'll know her,
Stephanie Gretzinger.
And Stephanie and I were close friends
and Chris was teaching on the fivefold gifts.
And she wrote on a piece of paper,
are you a prophet, question mark.
Now I wanna tell you, I was raised in the wild.
I told you the things of the Spirit raised in the wild.
So I'm like, I don't know, I think I'm a saint.
That's a true what I said.
I was like, I think I'm a saint.
I'm like, I feel apostolic and evangelistic and prophetic.
I feel like we're supposed to do all those things.
I'm just gonna do all those things.
And I really just didn't really know.
Like I was the first time I was ever hearing
that there was such things.
And, but something inside of me began to be like,
it's kind of interesting though how I was raised.
And here's the thing, is a prophet is who you are.
The gift of prophecy is a gift you receive.
But there's something about like, if I look at my life,
I was always a prophet.
And it was always on my life.
I just didn't know it.
Because it was not functioning the way
that maybe other prophets would function.
I'm what you call a heart prophet, a love prophet.
So I'm really mushy and loving.
Prophets often are quite serious and quite direct,
which I am, you can tell I'm quite direct.
direct and strong, but I cry really easily.
I'm really tender, so I thought I was really pastoral.
But anyway, I started getting invited to this group
at Chris V's house.
And he told us basically, listen, if you're invited here,
I don't know if you're a prophet, you might not be.
So don't start calling yourself a prophet.
I'm just inviting prophetic people here.
And if I do call you out as a prophet, then you're a prophet
but if I don't, you don't.
Listen, I was so happy to be in that room.
I paid all this money just to sit in the back of this room
and listen to him teach during school.
So I thought, I'm sitting in this man's basement room,
like he's got this cool little room.
I was like, me and Melissa Casey, my friend,
we're like, I'll just sit at his feet and listen
to everything and write it all down.
And I don't care if I'll just be covert non-prophet Hayley,
that's fine.
And anyway, I was leading, he came and spoke
at one of my revival groups probably six
to seven months later.
And he introduced me to our revival group as a prophetess.
And then he kept talking.
I remember sitting there being like, oh, it is true.
That was my big moment.
That was my big prophet moment.
It was like, and she's a prophetess in our house.
Isn't she wonderful?
Does anyone have questions?
That's pretty much what he did.
And I was like, I'm a prophet.
Have any of you had that moment where you're like,
you recognize I'm a prophet, now what?
Anyone?
Can you raise your hand?
You're all nervous to do it, okay.
Some of you are in that right now.
I get emails from people.
I think I'm a prophet, now what?
And I'm like, now you get to do
faithful step-by-step obedience.
It wasn't like, now I'm in the office of a prophet.
And I get to rule the world and the church and be awesome.
You know, like in Star Traveling World,
Prophet Haley coming to town.
But you know what it did for me?
It made me recognize my function is to equip the saints
to hear the voice of God.
My function now is no longer to simply prophesy,
but actually at times to lay down
that powerful gift of prophecy
so that I can allow others to step in
to what he's calling them to.
And I began to lead my revival group differently.
I began to lead my revival group thinking,
okay, if I'm a prophet, there is a grace on my life
to connect people to the voice of God.
See, it's like, people used to think the prophet
was like the one on the other side of the phone
and they'd call and be like, I need a word.
And then the prophet gives them a word
and then they hang up the phone
and then they have to wait like another seven months
until they get the next word.
But the prophet's job is not to be the one
on the other end of the phone line,
it's to connect the phone line between the people and God.
The prophet reveals a grace to the body of Christ
and connects them in to the heart
and the voice of the Father.
In fact, I think we as prophets have a unique grace
on our lives to speak on the reality of the Holy Spirit.
I really do.
One of my greatest concerns in the church right now
is how willing we are to do church
without the presence of God.
It's one of my greatest, that we can literally
create things where we don't have dependency
on the Holy Spirit.
I wanna tell you, I was in that spot.
I was in a school of supernatural ministry
and I'd learnt all the tools and I'd forgot dependency.
And not because I didn't want dependency,
but honestly, probably because I didn't know
how available God was to me.
You know, a lot of people, we're not relying
on the Holy Spirit, not because we're arrogant.
There is obviously that on us, but I think most of the times
because we don't understand how available
He wants to be for us.
We don't understand how present God is to us.
Hungering for the Lord isn't trying to make God come
to something that He doesn't wanna come to.
Hungering for the Lord is me making myself aware
of just how available He is.
Hunger is for my benefit, not for His.
And as prophets, if you're a prophet in this room,
and if you're just a prophetic person right now,
I just wanna tell you, your goal is not to graduate
to being a prophet.
Your goal is to serve the church.
And if you're a prophet in this room,
you serve the church with your function.
Your function is actually sometimes to lay down
your strength to enable others to step in.
I remember Kim Walker-Smith, she was teaching a worship AMT
and I was in the worship team when I was in first year.
That's how I met my husband.
Miss Kathy Vallaton was overseeing worship in first year.
And my husband was the third year.
We used to call them interns, they're now third years.
He was the third year over the worship team,
this cute little 20 year old boy from Wisconsin.
He had the skinniest jeans I'd ever seen in my whole life.
They should have been illegal.
They were literally jeggings, I'm sure.
And he was skinny.
He was like 135 pounds and he's six foot.
So you can just imagine,
you know those skinny musicians that don't eat?
That's what he was.
And then he married me and he gained like 30 pounds.
Maybe 40 now, actually, sorry babes.
And Ryan had this like swoopy long hair.
part of my story, but it's good to make you laugh.
He wore deep V-necks.
I was like, how are those even legal in church?
Things are gonna fall out of that shirt
if you just move the wrong way.
And you know, like super, but anyway,
so that's how I met my husband.
Thanks, Miss Kathy, for,
I remember when he asked me on the day,
I'm like, have you asked Kathy Vallotton permission?
Listen, I thought third years
were having throne room encounters,
so I thought he must have had a word from the Lord
to ask me out,
because I was ready to meet this third year Bethel boy.
And so when I asked him, like,
did you get a word from the Lord or something?
And he's like, no,
I just know that God loves what we love.
And my heart says that I'd like to take you out.
And God didn't say no.
So anti-climatic, I'll tell you that.
And he was so nervous.
He was so nervous.
He was making donkey sounds.
From Shrek, you know, they go.
He was doing that the whole time.
I remember thinking, Lord, if I marry this guy,
can you stop doing the donkey sounds?
Because I cannot abide by this.
We drove a 1992 Camry that had its headlight
held on by duct tape.
The windows, you know how hot it is right now.
You're all experiencing hot.
The windows wouldn't open or close.
They were jammed up with a piece of wood.
When we got married, he was volunteering
for a production company.
I've got to tell these stories to our students,
because you forget these.
He was volunteering for a production company,
hoping that he could gain some skills,
that he could step into what he wanted to do
as videography.
Honestly, I don't know.
I don't know.
Honestly, I was terrified that the man
wasn't skilled or gifted.
I'm like, I married a 21-year-old
that was like dreaming of being a creative,
and I thought, oh Lord, please let him be good at this.
Otherwise, we're gonna be poor for the rest of our lives.
He used to come home with his face flushed red
because he couldn't open or close his windows,
and it's 110 degrees outside,
and you have to drive home at 5 p.m.,
which is the hottest time of the day.
Listen, humble beginnings, man.
Do not despise the days of small beginnings.
Do not despise.
I feel like I share that story for some of you to know.
That's not about your age.
Do not despise.
God, there's a beginning happening for some of you.
I can feel it.
The seed of the Spirit right now is,
I can feel it moving through the room.
God is depositing a seed of hunger and desire,
making you aware that he has called you
for such a time as this,
and that you're gonna take these gifts,
you're gonna take this knowledge,
you're gonna take these tools,
and you're gonna become a reformer.
You're gonna build the church with the words of God.
You're gonna climb into the heart of the Father
and reveal his nature to a world that is full of orphans.
He says that he's given us the spirit of adoption.
I believe some of you this week,
you're gonna get a revelation of the spirit of adoption,
and your prophetic language is gonna completely change.
You're gonna begin to release words
that are gonna draw sons and daughters
back into the kingdom.
I feel like orphanhood is breaking off of people this week.
Thanks, God.
I don't remember what I was gonna say.
Does anyone remember?
Probably a good time to close.
I'm gonna pray for you.
Wow, God.
God, we thank you that we are part of a new covenant.
God, we thank you that we don't have to earn your love,
and we don't have to earn the gifts.
God, that every promotion is unto servanthood.
Amen.
God, make us lovers of your presence
and lovers of your people.
I'm thinking of Galatians 5.1 that says,
it was for freedom that Christ set us free.
And then 5.13 said, now do not use your freedom
to serve yourself, but instead serve one another in love.
God, would you make us lovers of your people,
lovers of your bride?
God, would you remind us of a king
that is coming back to establish a kingdom
that will not be shaken?
And Lord, would you allow us, God,
by your grace and your mercy,
it is your desire that we reveal that kingdom
through our prophetic words,
through our prophetic declarations.
God, let us be builders of the church
that the gates of hell will not prevail.
God, let us be ones that thwart the plans of the enemy
and build the plans of God.
Redebesorodo.
Holy Spirit, I pray for a fresh visitation this week.
God, I pray for fresh revelation this week.
God, I pray that the orphan spirit
and the spirit of religion would bow in Jesus' name
and the spirit of the resurrected Christ
would be lifted high for all to see God.
That every knee would bow at your name, God.
That every, every hindrance,
every valley would be raised up
and every mountain would be put low, God.
That every hindrance in front of your people
in believing the beauty of the freedom
of the new covenant, God,
would be laid at the foot of the cross.
Amen.
God, would you awaken us to a revelation
that the same Spirit that raised Christ from the dead
and seated Him in the heavenly realms
is living and dwelling and available to us right now.
Holy Spirit, we say yes to you.
Oh, we say yes to being people who build your church
with the words and the heart of God.
In Jesus' name, amen, amen.
I'm gonna have you join me
because one of my favorite people,
and actually my revival group pastor in first year,
this man was the first pastor
that ever led me in this environment
and I have a real love for him.
I used to cut his children's hair
in my little side laundry room.
We go back nearly 15 years now.
So if you'd please join me in standing
and welcoming our prophet, Ben Armstrong.
Thank you.
All right, can you hear me?
Praise Jesus.
Is that a Mr. Armstrong I see on the screen online?
I think there's an Armstrong online here.
Is that David Armstrong?
Yeah, I see you, bless the Armstrongs.
I love that, that's good.
Hey, I'm super excited to be with you,
to speak with you today.
I'm not gonna try and preach, it is a gift of mine.
I'm a good preacher and I'm a good communicator,
but that was enough.
And I feel like I'm trying to catch my breath for Haley.
Because I was like just drinking
from the fire hose of glory.
And that was beautiful, so good, Haley.
And I brought the stool
because the stool helps me not preach, right?
Because I get a little excited if I stand up
and I get a little more animated.
So I'll try and just be animated with my hands
and we'll just try and do this together.
Let's start out with this.
Bethel Music released an album last year called Homecoming.
And if any of you have children who are away from the Lord
and not serving the Lord,
I want you to stand to your feet.
If you're online, put up your wave hand
or put it in the chat, that's me.
This is the year of homecoming.
Our sons and daughters are coming back.
As for us in our house,
they will serve the Lord all the days of their life.
God, we declare that this is their year of homecoming.
And God, will you hunt them down?
Will you chase them down with your kindness, your goodness?
God, would you pursue them relentlessly?
God, everywhere they turn,
would they be reminded of your goodness?
Would they be reminded and called back?
God, we're prophetic.
God, would you prophesy over our children?
Call them back to their identity.
Call them back to who they are.
We release wholeness and restoration
to our whole family lines, our lineage.
I saw even grandfathers,
Dr. V was sharing a dream this morning about his grandfather.
I see grandfathers and grandmothers coming back as well.
They're prodigals, they've been running for a long time.
They're not the prodigal sons and daughters anymore.
They're the prodigal fathers and mothers,
grandfathers and grandmothers, come home in Jesus' name.
Come home in Jesus' name.
This is the season of breakthrough in Jesus' name, amen.
Okay, you can sit down.
Just gotta go after those things.
Is there any ladies from Ireland here?
Anyone from Ireland at all?
If you're in the chat, you can put it in the chat.
Cause I felt like I had a word
and I'm gonna release it because they could be in the chat.
If someone raises their hand,
maybe our moderators could put them on the screen for me.
But I felt like this.
I had a friend who's from Ireland and she's my age.
She's 48 and just found out she's pregnant again
with her third child.
And I'm like, oh my goodness, that's amazing.
And she said, that's exactly what I thought too.
Here's what I feel.
I feel like there's some of you,
you feel like you missed your season.
And you missed your season
and you're past the birthing season of those dreams.
And maybe you're not just from Ireland.
It's just some of you in this room and watching,
but God is actually doing a new thing in you
and he's birthing something
and you thought it was impossible,
but God's bringing it alive
in a way you never thought before.
So we just release that.
Yeah, I like the ones that just stand up and say,
I'm receiving that for me.
Yeah, I gave up on that.
I thought that was another season,
but it's not another season.
It's a now season and he's birthing it right now.
And he's gonna see it to full term.
This is not something you're gonna have to fight for.
It's something that God is actually releasing.
So we bless that in you in Jesus name.
And I really feel like that Abraham and Sarah anointing,
that whole laughter in this season
is gonna be marking your season.
You're gonna laugh your way into birthing a new thing.
So anytime it becomes stressful,
just do the Steve Backlund thing
and let's just laugh over that.
Amen, you just laugh at that thing
until the joy of the Lord fills you
and then operate from that place.
So bless you with that as well.
And then anyone at all,
I'm just doing a few things,
this is the housekeeping, right?
This is good stuff.
Anyone who, you as a spouse,
as a wife or as a husband,
you guys are going after having babies,
but there's some kind of difficulty in having babies.
We're gonna go after that.
Boy, you're just getting a lot of things this morning.
Come on.
We wanna go after that.
And if that's you online as well, put it in the chat.
We're gonna believe with you and for you
because God is healing bodies,
both male and female reproductive issues.
God's healing right now is releasing that in Jesus' name.
God, this is your plan.
When you declare, be fruitful and multiply,
you actually made us with that ability.
And so God, we say no more to the enemy stealing
from these and we speak order over your body in Jesus' name.
Christ came to redeem us from the curse of the law
by becoming a curse for us, for it is written,
cursed is any man who hangs from a tree.
Jesus paid the price to redeem the birthing cycle.
And every curse that was placed on the birthing cycle
is removed right now, including women,
even your menstrual cycle, over bleeding,
pain is not supposed to be part of that.
So we just remove that in Jesus' name
and we release your order to the birthing cycle
for both the men and the women in this room.
In Jesus' name, we declare healthy sperm,
a healthy sperm count as well.
No miscarriages anymore.
And even the pain of miscarriage,
the injustice and the stealing,
God, you would redeem that and you would heal that
and you would be the comforter in that in Jesus' name.
In Jesus' name, amen.
All right.
This is what we do, this is a house of healing,
this is a house of miracles and I'm a healing prophet.
So, you know, I think when prophets show up,
miracles should happen.
That should be normal.
I mean, if you're confronted with an issue
and you're a prophetic person, person, person, person,
it doesn't matter if you're at the grocery store
or anything, you're there to bring the justice
of what God paid the price for when he sent his son,
Jesus Christ, to die on the cross.
And you get to be an enforcer of that justice.
That's more exciting than you're responding, but.
We're gonna talk about hearing the voice of God
and we're gonna talk about different languages of God
and what's gonna happen in the room
as we process through this is eyes are gonna open,
ears are gonna open, our senses are gonna be trained,
our senses are gonna increase,
you're gonna have a greater recognition
of who God is, how he operates,
not just his deeds, but his ways, right?
I'm not just studying to find out,
okay, I love dreams and dream interpretation,
but my goal is not to interpret a dream.
My goal.
The goal is to have such a relationship with God
that anytime he speaks, I'm able to understand what he's saying.
And not just that, release that to others.
Moses knew God's ways.
The Israelites knew his deeds.
Israelites were putting God in a box.
Moses was learning God's nature.
And the hope was that we would all know God's nature and his ways.
And Haley did a great job unpacking the value of Scripture,
both the Logos and the Rhema word of the Lord.
And it's valuable.
And that's really our anchor spot for starting to hear the voice of God
is reading Scripture.
I can remember my first encounter with God.
The first time he ever spoke to me was through the written word.
And it was the very first time the written word actually
became Rhema in that moment.
I was reading Scripture at the age of eight.
And I was reading in Proverbs.
And I began to read, life and death are in the power of the tongue.
And those who love it will eat of its fruit.
And it was the first time it came alive to me.
It was like God himself was speaking to me.
And he said, Ben, I want you to speak life.
Well, I'm eight years old.
Oh, OK, speak life, you know.
But I'm a Weaverville guy, right?
Weaverville, hunting, fishing.
Our main employer in the town was a lumber mill.
So, you know, when God said speak life to Ben Armstrong,
like I'm used to how men showed affection in Weaverville
is we would punch each other in the arm,
greet each other not with a holy kiss or a hug.
It was a holy punch in the arm.
And in those moments, for me, it was like,
oh, I felt really like I was super loved
if I walked home and I couldn't use my arm anymore.
And part of the way we showed affection to one another
and showed love to one another was by ripping on each other.
You know, joking.
There's a scripture says like a madman shooting firebrands
or deadly arrows is a man who deceives his neighbor
and says, I was only joking.
And life and death are in the power of the tongue.
And I, that was different than my culture.
Yes, I was raised in church.
You were raised in Bill Johnson's church
and you ripped, yeah, that's just, we're mountain kids.
That's what we did.
Like, that's how we showed affection.
So, you know, locker room talk,
that kind of stuff was normal for Ben Armstrong.
So when God said that, he was actually changing
or giving me the ability to partner with a new culture
that wasn't my culture.
It doesn't matter what your upbringing is.
It doesn't matter what your history is.
What matter is the choice you make
to actually partner with the future God has for you.
See, he didn't say, Ben, one day you'll be
the prophetic ministries director at Bethel Church.
He didn't say, Ben, one day you're gonna travel
the world and prophesy over people.
Ben, you're gonna travel the world and train people in this.
No, he didn't say anything like that.
There was no such thing back then.
I mean, back then there was the pastor
and then there was the associate pastor,
which was the youth pastor, the janitor,
you know, the bus driver and all that stuff.
And if you're lucky enough, you got paid for five hours
of that work as that associate pastor.
But there were, you know, that was it.
The prophecy stuff, I didn't know God
was leading me in a direction, but I honored his voice.
Here's what's amazing.
When you honor his voice, you start hearing it more.
God's number one language is communication.
He's always communicating.
It's not, oh, God speaks Spanish, God speaks English,
God speaks Mandarin.
No, he's speaking.
Even in his silence, he's communicating.
But maybe you had a passive aggressive dad
or mom or leader in your life.
And so silence meant you were in trouble.
It meant displeasure, not with God.
Silence, God's silence is contentment.
That's where he hides us under the shadow of his wing.
And he leads us not with his voice,
but he leads us with his heartbeat.
He leads us from intimacy.
He leads us from pleasure.
He leads us from rest in that place.
I just have a feeling maybe this generation
is really afraid of that dark place.
We're so,
maybe
Deprived
Because we're so we need attention all the time. We need noise all the time
I need a scroll all the time. I need all this stuff and God's like
Why don't you come in here into the deep darkness where I am
Right and Moses went into the deep darkness where God was and the Israelites were afraid he says no
No, everyone like the fear is good, but it's not supposed to keep you away
It's supposed to keep you from doing bad things fear the Lord, but come in here with me
No one else would go in there. Moses like well, I'm going
I'm going and that place that dark place with God is a place of transformation
It's a place where you become like him Moses comes off the mountain. He's shining with the glory of the Lord
he's shining because now he looks like the one he's beholding and
What did it do it provoked believers and non-believers alike?
It provoked the believers and says hey, we can't handle that. Will you put a will you put a veil on your face?
Your relationship with God is convicting me
Please cover it up
There's a jeopardy that you know, everyone wants to hear the voice of God, but
There there may be a little bit of a perversion I want to hear the voice of God, but I don't want the relationship portion I
I
Want to hear the voice of God so I can Wow people
That's not the intention the intention of the voice of God is just intimacy with God
That's what he wants
Moses he says in Numbers chapter 11 verse 29
He's talking to Joshua as Joshua was afraid that you know
Me dad and el dad or are are prophesying and I these guys stop him Moses. Stop a prophesying
And he's like I wish that all of the Lord's people were prophets and
That the Lord's Spirit would be on them
And and it's funny because that's almost becomes a prayer an Old Testament prayer that God
Answers through Paul in 1st Corinthians chapter 14. He says for you all can prophesy and
Every one of you
Can do this so that we can be instructed and encouraged by God all of a sudden what was rare in the Old Testament
Becomes a normal operating system in the New Testament. This is what God actually creates for us
It should be normal to hear God and I love the fact that we can actually create this from intimacy
from infancy with our own children
Maybe it took you a long time to get it. Maybe you know, this is not normal in the generations
I'll tell you it was normal in my generation, but it showed up as mental illness
You're like what were you talking about? Yeah
Experiences that no one could understand. So they said you were crazy until you believed you were crazy and
You were crazy and
They never anchored it back to actually hearing the voice of God is normal
it didn't matter if they grew up in the church because the church were saying that's not normal and
It turned into mental illness
Why because people were lying about their own identity
They weren't able to anchor them in this there was no school of the prophets back then
It was let me put you in a sanitarium
Let me put you in a place where we we can handle all that and and then tell you other
interpretation for what that really is
Wow that sounds intense
I'm not trying to be intense, but I I can feel the the glory of the Lord in the room
I can feel the weight of God's presence in here. And and I I feel like
We're we're not just getting rewired I don't feel that
It is that thing Chris said it's a metamorphosis that we are actually in right now
In 2019 I had a dream and
Four
different times in one night
There was these transformers, you know, like the movie the robots
the robots
Transformers and they're fighting, you know
You got the Autobots and Decepticons and they're fighting so I have this one dream and it's this epic battle of
these transformers and I wake up
I wake up after the dream, I'm like,
that was weird.
I haven't been watching Transformers movies.
Like, why am I having a dream like that?
I go back to sleep, I have the same dream again.
And I wake up, I'm like, that's weird.
God, what are you trying to say?
I fall back asleep, I go in the same dream again.
Epic battle, Transformers fight.
Four different times in one night.
And then finally, the fourth time I wake up
and I hear God say, there's a battle for transformation.
There is an epic battle for transformation right now.
And we're not just getting rewired,
we're getting transformed.
We are transformed by the renewing of our mind.
How does that happen?
By hearing his voice.
The more I hear his voice, the more I behold him,
the more I perceive him, the more I perceive him.
Lord, help us perceive you.
Lord, would you activate our senses,
every single one of them to perceive you.
I love the still small voice of God,
but it's interesting because as I grew up,
even learning the still small voice of God,
that same voice that was the still small voice of God
in my early years with God is actually a booming shout.
It is a thunder right now.
And it's almost like the longer you go with God,
the still small voice gets stiller and smaller.
That might sound scary to you.
That might sound upsetting.
Well, why is that?
Watch this.
Hey, Dr. V, can you hear me?
Still small voice.
Can you hear me now?
Okay.
Hi, Dr. V.
Can you hear me now?
Come on, baby.
Can you hear me now?
Woo!
The more intimate we are with God,
the less loud he needs to be with us.
If he gets, listen, he is such a wooing God
that he'll actually speak quieter to you.
And you may get frustrated,
but he's actually inviting you to lean in.
When it gets quieter, he's saying, come closer.
Come closer.
I wanna be closer to you in this season.
I wanna teach you new things in this season.
He's inviting us into those things.
I love Proverbs.
One of my favorite scriptures is Proverbs 25, verse two.
It's the glory of God to conceal a matter.
It's the glory of kings to search it out.
God actually hides stuff for us, for your benefit.
It's amazing because we've got a guy here.
Maybe you know him.
His name's Bill Johnson.
You guys ever heard of him?
You know, if you've ever been at a Sunday service
or maybe you've listened to one of our podcasts,
one of our Sunday services,
Bill Johnson, it doesn't, just every week, every week,
he comes up here and he gets right about here
and he hangs his toes over the edge
and he drops his heavy Revis.
You know, his one-liners,
that he does one liner after one liner after one liner
and he strings them together
like Haley Braun did this morning.
And there's this revelation like waterfall,
a cascade where you're drinking
from the fire hose of revelation,
but you're stuck on the very first word that he said.
And you're like, oh my goodness, what was that?
And you're taking into realms of wisdom and revelation
and you're stuck and you're gone somewhere
in revelation realm, all off one word.
What happened in that moment?
See, Bill Johnson, in his intimacy with God,
in his passionate for God, passion for God,
in his relational capacity with God,
he's actually sought out the secret things of God,
the stuff that God had for him.
And when he's generous and when we as prophets,
as prophetic people give the word of the Lord
that came from intimacy,
all of a sudden people's esteem for you grows.
Why?
God is establishing your kingship.
He's establishing your royalty in that moment.
Now there's a jeopardy because I could get addicted
to being royalty, being awesome.
There is something that is so fulfilling
when you help usher people into their identity.
And the value that can come from that,
it could be pretty overwhelming.
This is why the weight of worship
that gets put on artists sometimes in the world,
secular artists and even Christian artists,
sometimes the only option for them is suicide.
Because no one can hold up under the weight of worship
that's only reserved for God.
No one can hold up under that weight.
And if I pursue it too long, that thing will kill me.
This is why Daniel had so much longevity in his leadership.
I used to read the book of Daniel all the time
because I wanted to be like Daniel.
I still do.
But I wanted to be like the Daniel that I saw
who had influence over four kings.
I'm like, oh yeah.
I wanna be like that, 10 times wiser
and the ability to interpret all kinds of dreams and visions.
Oh yes, sign me up for that.
I'm all over that.
I wanna be that.
And God talked to me one day, like God does.
You know, he's so kind.
He turns on the light with a two by four over your head.
And he usually comes in the form of a question.
And God says, hey Ben, you know the problem with you?
Obviously not, but no, God, what's the problem with me?
He says, you know, when you read the book of Daniel,
you read too much of Daniel and not enough of me.
And God says, hey Ben, you know the problem with you?
He said, you wanna know the secret to Daniel's longevity?
I said, yeah, I'd love to know that.
Look at the way every king responded to Daniel.
Daniel, let me give you all these gifts.
If you do this, I will reward you.
Cause we're reward driven people.
Okay, I wanna hear the voice of God.
Cause if I hear the voice of God
and I say the voice of God, I'll add followers.
I'll get more influence.
I'll get to speak.
People will know that I'm powerful.
There is something inside of every one of us
that wants to know we're important, that we're valuable.
But in those moments, Daniel responded in a unique way.
Oh, king, keep your gifts.
This is so that you would know what's in God's heart for you.
This is not for my benefit, this is for your benefit.
And what would happen every time?
Every time if the kings would turn around,
they said, there's none other
in whom the spirit of the gods is in.
Well, that was the polytheists, right?
They're like, oh, I can see God's in this person.
They were talking about Holy Spirit.
They could just hadn't have right words for it.
Surely the spirit of the gods is in you.
And what every time the king would worship the God of Daniel
and then still give Daniel gifts,
still gave him the gifts, still.
See, God wants to give you all that stuff.
He wants to give you all the extras and all the benefits.
And he wants to give you praise.
What father doesn't want to praise his own children
when they do good things?
This is normal.
But if we're looking for the glory for ourself
and we don't recognize where it came from
and point everyone back to that,
that's the glory that will kill you.
Yes.
That's the worship that none of us
can afford to have in our life.
And if we want to hear God better,
then we've got to humble ourselves.
There's a deep level of repentance in my life right now.
Not because I'm like, oh, I've sinned
or I've got some kind of moral issue in my life.
No, I just don't see the way God sees.
I'm reading through the gospels again
and there's statements and knowing their thoughts.
He declared this to them.
And I'm like, yeah, sometimes I think I know
people's thoughts, but I'm actually just judging them.
And I'm not accurate with their heart.
Lord, forgive me.
You know, it doesn't say,
don't ever take the sliver out of their eye.
It says, first, take the plank out of yours.
so you can see clearly.
If I want to hear God better,
I've got to have clean hands and a pure heart.
Yeah, but those that see God, it's perception.
Hearing, seeing, all of it.
I want to perceive the nature of God.
We want to perceive God wherever he's at.
You know, one of the greatest accelerations
in partnership with God came
when I started asking two questions.
When I started recognizing that God's at,
I maybe feel something, maybe I sense something,
maybe I don't sense anything, I just walk in the room.
Well, I know that God never leaves me nor forsakes me,
so wherever I go, God is, so he's here.
God, what are you doing, number one.
Number two, how do I partner with it?
How do I partner with it?
And God starts revealing new things.
You know, I grew up kind of thinking metaphorically.
I was different because I had a conversational
relationship with God, and Jesus does it through parables.
He spoke in parables so those that had ears to hear
would hear, and those who had eyes to see would see,
so that people who couldn't see
wouldn't actually be responsible with what he said
and be judged by what he said,
because he who knows what is right and does not do it,
to him it is sin.
So he'd mask it for the benefit of people,
but also for the invitation to relationship.
And the more I see God, the more I start seeing him,
and he starts concealing things for me and releasing it,
and the more I actually partner with it,
the more I start not just knowing how God would respond,
but starting to think like God thinks.
It's kind of like my dad.
My dad and I have spent a ton of time together.
If you want to know God's voice really well,
spend time with him.
I spent more time with my dad
than any of my other siblings combined,
because we work together.
So I can finish my dad's sentences,
and a lot of times we have the same exact sense of humor,
because why?
Because I have the mind of my dad.
And it's not about being a greater favorite.
Some of you think, oh, if I could just be
one of God's favorite, I would hear him better.
No, it's not about favorites.
It's about time spent.
Years ago, we had a young man in the school of ministry,
and people were enamored
with this young man's relationship with God.
And it was pretty incredible.
And I was on the streets of San Francisco
taking a group out to minister in the Haight-Ashbury area.
And I come around a corner,
and there's a group of these students looking in the window
like they're gawking.
And I'm thinking, what do they see?
Maybe they see like maple donuts with bacon on top.
You know, what are they looking at?
Like what is in the window?
And I turned the corner to look,
and there's this young man reading the Bible.
I said, what are you guys looking at?
Well, this guy, he's so amazing.
We wish we could have a relationship with God like him.
And I said, oh, you can.
They're like, no, no, no.
The way he hears God and all this stuff.
I said, do you wanna know the difference
between him and you?
They're like, yeah.
I said, he spends more time with God than you.
That's it.
He's not more of a favorite.
We're all God's favorite.
Dano is God's favorite Dano.
He doesn't compare him to any one of you.
He compares him to him, and he's God's favorite.
Regina, Regina is God's favorite Regina.
He loves her so much, and he doesn't compare,
even if your name is Regina, he doesn't compare you.
We're all God's favorite us,
and we all have the same amount of access.
A lot of it has to do with time spent.
How much time are you gonna spend,
or how much time are you gonna carve out in your life?
How much time are you gonna be present with God?
Because see, the point isn't just to get a word.
The point is to think like God.
The point is to be so uniquely connected with God
that you're able to respond as if it's God himself.
Do you have that kind of connection?
See, I like to think, I like to say this.
You think more like God
more than you think you think like God.
When you're connected with him,
you start having the thoughts of God.
And Bethany and I were just whispering
to each other a few minutes ago,
but I love what is said of Samuel,
and God didn't allow any of Samuel's words
to fall to the ground without accomplishing well.
What type of intimacy with God's heart is that?
See, do you have God's?
heart, is your heart in alignment with his heart?
Is your words in alignment with his words?
Because sometimes we'll say a thing and God's like,
that is totally my nature.
We're gonna do that.
That's the way I would think about that.
Let's partner with that.
Let's do that.
We're gonna make that happen.
I want that kind of relationship.
You know, John chapter 10 is so important for us
hearing God.
The sheep know the shepherd's voice.
Right?
And there's so much protocol in John chapter 10
in that whole thing of the shepherd and the sheep
because remember the thief comes
not through the sheep gate.
Let's be careful prophets and prophetic people
that we're actually coming in right structure,
in right authority.
Because if you want sheep to listen to you,
then you go through the structures that are set up.
Otherwise, you're actually operating as a thief.
And you wonder why people run away from your voice.
Because it says in that scripture,
they know the shepherd's voice
and if they hear a stranger's voice,
they'll actually run away from it.
Be careful what voices we're entertaining.
I have a wonderful wife.
Her name is Heather.
You'll see her some this week,
but you can put me in a room with a hundred women,
blindfold me, give all the women the same script,
one of them being my wife,
99 others not being my wife.
Hi baby.
Oh, it's her calling right now.
Hi baby.
It's me.
I love you so much.
I guarantee you every time I'll pick out my wife.
Why?
Not because I studied 99 other voices,
but I studied one voice.
It used to be popular in the church to study the devil.
Oh, devil's here, devil's here.
Look out, the devil's after us.
The devil's bad.
That's how we read scripture,
through the lens of devil's bad,
rather than God is good and finding God.
And we wonder why we were never able
to recognize this voice.
Well, I don't want to be deceived.
Well, study the original.
Yes.
Then when counterfeit shows up,
you'll recognize it right away.
That's not God's voice.
This is Jesus, right?
When he's led into the wilderness by the spirit,
and then the devil comes with the words of God.
The words of God, but not the person of God.
See Jesus, and I think it's crazy
because the devil tried to use the word
against the word of God.
How stupid was that?
Like he's the word that was made flesh
and he dwelt among us.
Like this is the word himself.
And he's like, no, no, no.
I hear your words.
And God did say that.
That's just not him.
Because I'm intimate with the person.
And I want us to be that intimate with the word.
He invites us into this relational intimacy
and this increase of everything that is his voice,
that is his ways,
that we would just move with the subtleness.
He could lead me.
My wife leads me with her eyes.
It is her voice.
That's her shouting voice.
You ever seen those eyes?
I mean, how many of you are married?
She just.
And now she's yelling.
Stop yelling at me.
I hear you.
His voice is all kinds of stuff,
but there's such an intimacy when we know him,
he can guide us real easily.
If I want to hear him more,
I've got to value things.
Not only the word of God,
the worship and adoration of God,
because the more I adore him,
the more I see him, behold him.
I see his nature.
I see his ways.
I see different facets of him and he's infinite.
So I can never exhaust all the facets of him.
So I'll continually learn his voice throughout eternity.
I'm going to hear nuances of his voice throughout eternity.
This is an adventure.
Dan Fairley puts it this way.
This is practice for eternity.
We're practicing for eternity right now.
So as I value him and his.
presence, actually, I start recognizing who I am too.
And Dano put it this way.
He said that it is such an important thing.
It is so validating.
As a man or woman of God,
it is so identity-affirming
to actually hear the voice of God.
And when I hear him and I behold him
and he teaches me more about him, my face is burning.
But we're just hearing, we're feeling, we're perceiving.
And when I do that, all of a sudden, I'm reminded of me
because I was made in his image.
If you have an issue with your identity,
you need to hear the voice of God again
because the voice of God affirms your identity.
Could come through an angel.
Remember Matthew, the book of Matthew
and Joseph's like about to divorce Mary and get rid of her
because she's like, hey, don't worry.
Holy Spirit got me pregnant.
Remember that one?
Joe, I need you to sit down for this one.
And so let me show you that in scripture, Joseph.
Oh yeah, darn, it's not in scripture.
It wasn't in scripture at that time.
So there was no precedence for that.
And Joseph being a righteous man
and he actually loved Mary.
He's like, yeah, but this is just too hard.
And then an angel Lord appeared to Joseph in a dream.
Dreams can be a language of God.
And dreams are not just a second class encounter with God
because God didn't differentiate.
Like it was the angel Lord appeared to him
and said, Joseph, son of David.
He could have just stopped right there.
Why?
That was an identity statement from heaven.
It was the voice of the Lord saying,
hey, this is who you are.
You're the son of David.
Guess what was prophesied about Jesus Christ?
He would come through the lineage of David.
When the angel Lord declared that,
he could have just stopped right there
because he actually in the identity statement
affirmed and confirmed him
and gave him the dignity he needed
to actually operate in his identity.
That's what hearing the voice of God does to us.
Dano said it, it creates extreme dignity.
It's the dignity that we all need as believers in God.
But it not just does that,
it establishes that everywhere we deliver that as well.
Valuing our prophetic words.
Whoever welcomes a prophet in the name of a prophet
receives a prophet's reward.
And then Paul to Timothy.
Paul says to Timothy in 1 Timothy 1, verse 18,
he says, Timothy, my son.
You hear the relational voice there?
Timothy, my son, I give you instructions
in keeping with the prophetic words
once made over your life
so that with those you would fight the good fight of faith
and have a clean conscience.
Hearing the voice of God,
reminding ourselves of the prophetic word,
his voice that was spoken over us
and valuing the instructions of fathers and mothers
actually gives us number one, faith,
and then number two, we rightly think about us
the way God thinks about us.
See, clean conscience there had nothing to do with,
I didn't think about sin today.
Clean conscience was, do you see yourself
the way God sees you?
Here, let me give you instructions
in keeping with the prophetic words over your life.
Let's keep the prophecies of God in the forefront
as you look at this, because if you're gonna go forward,
if you're gonna grow in hearing his voice
and apprehending your future,
then you're gonna have to keep what he already said
in front of you.
And what instructions of good fathers and mothers
help propel you into those futures.
That's what a good father and mother does.
None of us want someone just to tell us what to do, right?
None of us want that.
We hate people just telling us what to do.
It is so hot in here.
Is my face red?
Like radish red, or just?
Whoo, Holy Spirit.
I'm just trying to get through a lot of notes.
How do I recognize the voice of God?
Because I don't want to be deceived.
How many of you don't want to be deceived?
I want to recognize the voice of God.
Here's five ways to recognize His voice.
And these are really important.
Whether it's in a dream, in an encounter,
in prophetic words, in whatever we're doing,
in happenings, whatever.
Number one, scriptural resonance.
His voice should be in alignment with the Word of God,
His character and His nature.
We're not trying to say,
okay, how is that word for word in here?
It's not, it doesn't have to be word for word in here,
because how many of you drive a car?
Oh, those Satan demonized things.
That's not in the Bible.
Cars are not in the Bible.
No, we're not trying to find out how this is it,
put God in a box.
We're trying to learn His nature and His ways.
So does it line up with the character and nature of God
that's actually displayed in scripture?
That's number one.
Number two, Holy Spirit.
Holy Spirit is our guide.
He's our teacher, He's our counselor.
He's gonna affirm and confirm those things.
Maybe through redundancy,
maybe through that person showing up five or six times,
but these are ways to recognize Holy Spirit,
or whether or not it's God.
He may give you the same exact thing in different forms,
because Holy Spirit's trying to confirm something with you.
And we need community affirmation.
This is why it's so important
you guys are in prophetic communities.
The prophetic company that Bethany and Dano created
is so vital to Healthy Prophetic,
because it actually gets feedback.
I think I thought I heard the voice of God.
And then, no, that sounds like your soul,
because we know you.
We know your desires.
We know how you're wired.
We know that conversation you just had with someone.
And we get good feedback.
Oh, yeah.
Like Haley was talking about,
like sometimes we just give people their desires.
That's soul-based prophecy.
That's not actually prophecy.
That's fluff.
And it's really manipulation,
because all you're trying to do is get praise.
Feel good in those moments.
We don't wanna do that, unless God's doing that, right?
Unless it is the voice of God.
And we get it through community affirmation.
Community affirmation's two-pronged.
It's your friends and family with a shared value system,
but it's also your leaders.
It's also your leaders.
And this is how you get promoted in an environment.
You grow in favor with God and man.
Favor with man, that's this.
It's community and your leaders, both of them.
It's two-pronged.
If you have favor with your community,
but you don't have favor with leadership,
and the community tries to promote you,
when you didn't build any trust with the leadership,
what do you get?
A church split.
What do you get when a leader promotes you,
but they didn't have to go through the same things
that the community went through?
You get mistrust for your leadership.
This is why you can be the intergalactic prophet
of four galaxies and come here to Bethel Church,
but we don't know you in this galaxy.
So you're gonna have to go through the same classes,
the same courses of everyone else.
Why?
So you can build trust with our community.
When we do these things and when we're rightly connected,
we hear the voice of God a lot more accurately.
And the word of the Lord that's delivered
has way more potency.
Fruit, the fruit of it.
We're looking at fruit.
What does that word produce?
What did it produce?
It would always produce lasting fruit if it's from God.
Things like transformation, identity, wisdom,
faith, healing, counsel, freedom, solutions, inventions.
And then one that prophets and prophetic people
are really bad at that actually identify the voice of God,
time.
Oh, that's...
We're trying to accelerate.
Dano's got a great teaching on this anachronistic living.
Sometimes we're always so far in the future
and we're impatient.
And so we're always frustrated
because we're trying to push people into the future.
And God is such a patient God.
He's actually infinite.
So he's not in a panic.
Like we superimpose our 120 year lifespan on a word from God
and think it's a now word,
and it may not be now as we perceive it.
But guess what?
If you'll be patient with this whole process,
you'll start recognizing the voice of God quicker, quicker.
Languages of God are so important
and he speaks in many different ways
and I've already shared a few of them,
but I love Romans chapter one
because it says God's invisible attributes,
his divine nature and his internal power
can be clearly seen through what he's created
and creation is a language of God.
We've already talked about scripture
being a language of God.
We've talked about dreams and visions
being a language of God.
These are all, see, we should have a lot of different tools.
Tools, I don't know if it's tools.
I just think there's a lot of different capacity for us
or channels that we could turn to
and like, oh, that's how God's speaking right now.
And God's unique because he's multifaceted
and he speaks in so many different ways.
And sometimes you think he's being silent.
He's just speaking on a different channel.
He's just speaking in a different way.
And he actually created us to perceive all things in heaven.
The problem is we live in a warfare realm
where all spiritual realms thrive on attention,
but because the demonic kingdom is a pride-filled kingdom
and they actually need your attention in order to thrive,
that's the only way they get power and authority
is partnership with you and I.
So they need it.
God doesn't need it.
Haley already said it.
God's not like, oh, if I don't get attention,
I'm not gonna be able to function.
No, he craves our attention.
He just doesn't need it.
But all spiritual realms thrive on attention.
What realm are we giving our attention to?
Romans 12, 21, do not be overcome by evil,
but overcome evil by doing good.
My job is to pay attention to God.
I'm focused on him.
And I do that with my sense of smell.
I do that with hearing.
I don't just do it with pictures,
although we're very visual generation.
I'm looking for a broader sense.
And there's more than just our five senses.
Our skin is the largest sense organ on our body,
but touch is not the only sense
that we can feel on our skin.
There's pressure.
Dano loves this one, chronoception,
the passage of time.
There's magnetoception,
the ability to perceive magnetic fields.
There's equilibrioception.
That's like our ears.
And it gives us balance.
Have you ever walked in a room
and all of a sudden, whoa, something's moving?
And it wasn't actually something physical.
Sometimes you're actually perceiving
something going on in the spirit.
That's why you felt physically sick or dizzy in a room.
God, what are you doing?
How do I partner with that?
We've got a ton more in-depth teaching
on all of these different languages,
different ways that God speaks.
I love that he speaks in metaphors
because it's actually a wooing language
and he's trained it.
And we'll talk later about this
and I'll talk about interpretation.
But he speaks in parables and metaphors
because I believe it is the language of mystery,
but it's the language of intimacy.
He's wooing us into thinking like him.
And he's not just trying,
so many people come to me,
I just need this one dream interpreted.
Well, my goal as an interpreter
is not that you would get one dream interpreted.
My dream is that you would eventually think like God thinks
so that these would be natural for you.
So it'd be said like of you as well,
you are 10 times wiser,
10 times more brilliant than anyone else.
And you were able to interpret
all kinds of dreams and visions.
God speaks through spiritual happenings.
He speaks through signs and symbols, patterns and trends.
I love patterns and trends.
Joshua 1, 6, be strong and courageous.
Joshua, be strong and courageous.
Be very strong and courageous.
There's a pattern there.
There's a pattern showing up.
Some patterns show up in things called fashion, right?
Lindsay, you love fashion.
She loves fashion.
I'm sometimes.
disappointed with fashion because like the 90s are coming back.
Wasn't a great fashion decade, was not a great fashion decade, but it's coming
back again. Patterns and trends and God speaks
through all of these different things. The whole point is that God is speaking
over so many different languages, so many
different ways, and the mature prophetic
person, the mature prophet actually has an ability
to tap into all of those different languages at different times
and sometimes multi-layers. Well God's speaking on this and
he released this dream and then this person had this vision
and then someone was reading the Bible that actually lined up with that
and we start doing something called connect the dots prophetic
and we're connecting things. This is why the company of the prophets is so
important so that we would, we together collectively would have the
mind of Christ. We would think like he thinks about
issues, about problems.
We talked a little bit about angelic encounters and
angels deliver the voice or messages from God.
Many times that's their function. In the Bible it says
they were sent to serve those who would inherit eternal life. Are you inheriting
eternal life? Yeah. Well they're gonna come and show
up regularly. Did you know that when you start
talking about angels they they get excited and more show up?
They're attracted to that.
I feel like this is a season where that more than
any moment in history there is a battle for our attention.
There is so much distraction I can partner with.
There and it's competing with one voice.
My favorite day of the week is Sunday morning about 5 a.m right here.
Lights out, dark, early morning. Did you know God's voice sounds really
loud at that moment? And it's not because it's louder it's
because there's no other competing noise.
This is why the 3, 4, 5 a.m time is such a powerful time for us.
Some of you are wondering why why do I always wake up at that time?
Because everything else is quiet and God knows it and he's trying to speak to you.
His voice is really loud in those moments. So recognizing that
and partnering with it we're just skimming the surface.
Really we could spend days on each of these
and each of the different languages of God, each of the different ways that he
speaks. We could go in super depth with. This is
why that Dano and Bethany have so many trainings
accessible for this. This is why we have Bethel Prophetic and
and all kinds of training on this stuff. This is why we're doing this
because we want you to go even deeper and more in depth with these
and not just for yourself but so that you can start
reforming your communities by releasing the very same thing
that you're partnering with. But I don't want to just, I don't want us to just be
teachers of information. We want to, we want to actually release wisdom,
knowledge and the ability to apply it. And that wisdom only comes from you
practicing yourself and it becoming a part of you.
You can repeat and regurgitate or you can become.
And there's a grace to become. I feel it in the room.
There's a grace to actually be transformed
in the teaching that is being released. So would you stand your feet and I'm
going to pray over you. If you're at home and you can stand, go
ahead and stand as well.
We need about 53 hours.
But this is just a scratch and sniff.
The meal is later. The meal is where you and God get alone
and actually work this out. Some of you have a propensity, a real
gift in one area or another. It doesn't mean you can't, don't have
an ability in another place. Hebrews chapter 5
verse 14, it says, the mature who through
practice and repetition have their senses trained to discern good
and evil. But we're just looking for good, right?
We're building a better kingdom.
The devil doesn't care if you're fighting him.
as long as you're not building the kingdom.
Let's stop fighting the devil, build the kingdom,
because that's what disarms him.
This is what we're stepping into.
And I want us to feel equipped
to go and practice and repeat.
Want us to actually go and say,
no, I'm gonna be diligent in learning those voices
or those ways that God speaks
that I haven't had a high aptitude in before.
And those things that you're really good at,
get better at it.
Keep practicing, push yourself in it.
Continue to activate yourself.
Well, they don't give me any time
on the microphone at church.
Well, you got six other days a week
and a lot more hours.
You got so many different places to happen, right?
Happen, please happen.
Father, we thank you
that you have chosen us as your children.
You adopted us according to both your will and pleasure.
It's your will, you chose us, and it's your pleasure
that we would be called sons and daughters of you.
And you are the most present father there ever was.
When we talk to you, God, you have our full attention.
You are never distracted,
not like earthly dad or earthly mom or earthly leader.
You are fully present and you wanna speak to us.
You wanna have conversation with us all the time.
God, stir us up, open our ears, open our eyes,
open our senses, all of our senses to perceive you
and then give us courage to partner with you.
Because God, we need more courage.
And Holy Spirit, that is one of your number one attributes
is you give courage because you gave the gift of prophecy
which instills courage, strength, and comfort.
Those are your nature.
And we choose to partner with you, Holy Spirit.
And as your glory descends on us,
in the glory we are transformed with ever-increasing glory
into your likeness.
And God, as we're transformed,
we begin to think like you think.
So glory releases wisdom, and in that place of wisdom
and that place of intimacy,
you can trust us with supernatural power.
So God, would you release your power through these as well?
Because they are, they're rooted
and they're grounded in love.
First of all, the love you have for them.
We can love you because you first loved us.
We're rooted and grounded in love for you.
And then love for your people.
And thank you for the gift of the stewardship
of other people's lives and identity.
Thank you for sharing with us how you feel about people,
how you love them, how you care for them.
Help us to display that accurately.
And if there's any place in our hearts
that has gotten in the way of your voice,
gotten in the way of affection for you, we repent.
Take that away so we can see your face clear.
In Jesus' name, in Jesus' name, amen, amen.
Well, hey.
Oh, thank you.
Thank you.
It's lunch break.
And let me give you just a few things
before online and before you leave.
2 p.m. our session is gonna start in here
and it's always starts,
our afternoon session starts with big giveaways.
Like year subscriptions to our learning platforms,
like big things.
So that means you'll wanna be back in the room at two
because you have to be present online or in the room
and we're giving away on both platforms.
So you have to be present to win it.
And we'd hate to have to give it to someone else
cause you weren't here.
And then as well, if you did buy lunches
and you got lunch tickets,
the dining room is actually right behind us down this hall
and you can pick up your lunch.
there. We're going to leave the doors open, so if you guys want to potentially rest in here or do
that kind of stuff, it's a little cooler in here than out there, and we're going to have that
available for you as well. We'll see you at two o'clock. Bless you all.