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I like the sound of that.

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We're going to head over and some bible numbers

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that we got from people watching the broadcast.

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Go ahead and tell them why you're mad

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about what you're feeling,

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and then we're gonna take you back into the studio

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with your guys and we'll catch up with you

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and you'll get the benefits of that."

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So first up, the buffet,

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all of our speakers this week and asking them questions

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and just gleaning wisdom from them.

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It's been so, so fun.

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Awesome.

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Today we have Bethany Hicks with us.

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I am so excited to just chat with you.

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It's so fun.

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Yay!

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I know, it's so exciting.

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And your message yesterday was incredible.

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Oh good.

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It was incredible.

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I have to say, I'm sure most of you feel this way too,

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but as I was listening to that,

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I just felt like this is,

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I don't know if there's a more important message

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for our generation than knowing our identity.

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It is so obvious there's an identity crisis.

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It felt so, so timely.

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It was just powerful.

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It's so good, yeah.

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I'm glad you feel that way.

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I know a lot of, there's a kind of like a lot of buzzwords

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out there about identity and identity.

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And I don't know that people always know

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what they're talking about, to be honest, you know?

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And so one of the things that we've really been

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just going after is like, okay, you know,

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we all have people trying to give us identity,

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but really what matters is who God says we are.

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And how do we discover who God says we are?

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Like, you know, even as you guys know,

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I shared yesterday from like the scriptures,

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like I know I'm a child of God.

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I know I'm a saint, but what does that actually look like?

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How do I actually believe that that's part of my name?

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Those are some of my names, but then this is the key.

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I feel like, as we talked about yesterday,

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it's just the uniqueness.

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Like we're not just all this generic,

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like God's not just a vanilla God, right?

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Like we're not all the same.

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We all have the same heritage,

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but we all have unique calls within that.

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And I think that is, to me, is such a key

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for discovering your heavenly identity.

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But also I believe it's a powerful equipping tool

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to help shift people that just don't know who they are.

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Right? I mean, how many people do you know,

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even within the church?

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Come on, are you guys?

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How many people know, like,

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how many people know people in the church

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that still don't know who they are, right?

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And I think that's the beautiful thing is like,

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I think on our journey on life, it's actually,

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this is what I believe.

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Our journey in life is actually discovering

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who heaven says you are and living from that place.

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Like, and so again, knowing his thoughts towards us,

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getting rid of some, unlearning those things

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that others have told us, you know?

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I mean, we've heard some powerful testimonies

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already from that.

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It's so true.

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I love the story you've been told about your son, Ethan.

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I think that's how you said that you told him

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you're not strong to be a bully,

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but you're strong to be a protector.

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It's so powerful because you really do start to believe

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what you hear other people saying about you, right?

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Absolutely.

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And it's funny, I so resonated with that.

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My mom also used to do the same thing.

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She was like fanatic about what our names meant.

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And my name, my full name's Alexandra.

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And so she would always say,

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you are a victorious defender of mankind.

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Come on.

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You're not just a defender, you're victorious.

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But it's something that still so deeply rings true to me

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when you hear those things that you can grasp.

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Oh, that's who I am.

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That's my identity.

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And often we're not in environments where we are told

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or we have lies that we start to believe about ourself.

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That you kind of shared about yesterday.

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So powerful.

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There was a guy who came up to me at the end

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and his last name is Goodenough

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and he was just sharing with me.

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He's like, my whole life I was told,

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you're barely good enough or not good enough.

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Like people would use his last name

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and instead of like, hey, you're good enough.

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It's like, no, you're not good enough.

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And so even just that false name,

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even just in what we were doing yesterday

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was really healing for him.

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And you know, I didn't even mention this yesterday,

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but I was thinking about this for you guys too,

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as you're equipped, not only with who God has called you

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to be, but also taking these tools,

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speaking the truth to people around you.

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See, this is the thing, like, let's say for example,

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you're not saved yet, right?

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And I am trying to reach out to you

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and you just told me your name is Victorious.

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What does your mom declare over you?

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Victorious Defender.

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Victorious Defender.

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So as a friend, let's say you're just walking

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and all kinds of things.

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I can be like, wow, I just really see

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that you are such a Victorious Defender.

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Like, and then you look for that in her life.

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Like you start.

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to call out the treasure.

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You don't necessarily have to say,

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God says you are a victorious defender.

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You know why?

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Because I didn't say this yesterday,

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but I believe the truth of heavenly identity

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would cause something inside

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to start resonating with that truth.

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And it would start to displace lies.

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Like I believe as you just speak that over people,

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it'd be like a seed that would go in the heart.

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And you know how I think I talked about this

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on the first day, guys.

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Remember when I was talking about

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striking the chord of a guitar

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and it would entrain with the piano chord.

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Remember you guys, I was talking about that.

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It makes the same sound.

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So if you are making the sound over someone

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that heaven is saying who they are,

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I believe something within them,

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even if it's buried really deep under all those lies,

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it's gonna come to life

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and it's gonna begin to start resonating

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with the truth of who heaven says they are.

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And I believe like as you continue to do that,

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it's gonna rise to the surface.

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And I believe it could bring a radical transformation.

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That's incredible, that's incredible.

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I was feeling God on that.

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I don't know if anyone else was,

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but again, you guys, even just, this is the other thing.

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Start declaring who God says you are over yourself, right?

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Don't just like think it, declare it

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and even write it out, you know?

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And actually we're gonna do activations today

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when I'm running the activations.

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I'm gonna give you some practical tools

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to be able to prophesy using your name

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or using the names of other people.

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They're very biblical, very powerful,

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but I'll share with you guys some tools on how to do that

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because I really wanna see the body of Christ

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come into the fullness of who she was and who she is.

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So good, I see Leo and Lauren saying,

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I needed to hear it.

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So good, I love that.

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So good.

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So I have a question for you.

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I think that, you know,

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often in our prophetic environments,

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we hear the words or we hear the phrases,

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prophetic destiny and your prophetic identity.

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Is knowing your prophetic identity

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and knowing your prophetic destiny,

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one, I guess I have two parts to this question.

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Is it the same as knowing your identity?

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Because we also hear your identity in Christ,

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is that the same thing or is it different?

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is it, do you just know your prophetic identity

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all of a sudden?

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Is it kind of this encounter you wake up one day

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and you, oh, these are the plans I'm gonna have

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for the rest of my life?

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Or is it kind of unveiled to us

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throughout the course of our life?

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That's a beautiful and big question.

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I love that you just asked that.

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I will say that I think a lot of people

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are looking to, for their purpose or their destiny

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before knowing who they are.

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And I think that's why people get really stuck

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because they're like,

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what am I gonna do for the rest of my life?

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And like, that's actually the wrong starting question

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because you do from the place that you are, right?

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And so, so, so I believe,

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I think the prophetic identity and prophetic destiny,

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the prophetic being, who does God say you are?

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Your heavenly identity.

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That's the truest thing about you in the universe.

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Come on, we all have other identities

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that have been put on us.

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So I wouldn't even use identity.

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I would say even my heavenly identity

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because again, this is who you are.

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So like, for example, Gideon,

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I mentioned him a little bit yesterday,

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but Gideon was hiding in the wine press

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and then an angel of the Lord shows up and says,

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he says, Oh mighty man of valor, you are a mighty warrior.

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Okay, he'd never fought a battle.

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He was literally hiding.

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What was happening?

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Heaven was coming and revealing to him,

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this is who you are.

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It's not who you will be.

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It's who you already are.

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And then Gideon's response, his choice was,

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do I start to see myself the way heaven sees me

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so that I actually can step into that identity

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and then start fulfilling my destiny.

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And that to me is honestly,

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I believe this is why the enemy is so,

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he fights against identity so much

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because they're intricately connected.

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Like that story you shared with my son,

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it's like God made him strong to be a defender

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of the defenseless and he is living.

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So that's who he is.

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And now he's flowing from that place into his destiny.

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Because that's who God created him to be.

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And so it's honestly, it's a journey.

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It's a discovery.

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It's a beautiful conversation,

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but I do believe that there are practical tips,

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practical and prophetic tips

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that we can learn to discover who God says we are.

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We have lots of tools and prophetic company.

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I know Bethel does as well.

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We have prophetic processing.

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That's a huge key.

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Deanna has a great book called The Good Fight

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that allows you to process your words

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and discover within your prophetic words

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that you've received.

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Oh, this is an identity word.

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Like anytime you get a word,

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anytime you get a word within your words,

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look for identity key phrases.

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They would say things like, you are this.

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Like, I see you as a pioneer.

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I see you as a forerunner.

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I see you as beloved son of the Lord.

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speaking into who he created you to be.

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we're co-heirs with Christ, right?

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We're citizens of heaven.

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like why you're on the earth today.

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really speaks powerfully to that.

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I woke up this morning actually feeling like,

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I'm gonna take a risk a little bit.

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like there might be people on this call

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that have felt like they are supposed to have it

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already all figured out.

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Like they're supposed to know because they're prophets

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or they're highly prophetic people,

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they are supposed to already know their prophetic identity,

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their prophetic destiny.

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And they feel like they've maybe been behind.

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Like there may be late bloomers,

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like they haven't got it all figured out yet.

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Like I'm supposed to know this.

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If that's you, give us a wave, raise your hand.

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We're gonna pray for you today.

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Yes, okay, see lots of waves.

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Great, I love that.

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How about you pray for us?

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Praying about the-

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The pressure falling off.

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Father, I just actually wanna speak right now

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to the lie that you've missed it.

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In Jesus name, you have not missed it.

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from the mission, the church I came from

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was that you are the perfect age

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for everything that God has called you to do.

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some of you feel like that you've missed it

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because maybe you had an opportunity in the past.

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Maybe you feel disqualified like Peter did

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because he felt like he blew it by denying Jesus.

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I wanna tell you, you are not disqualified.

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You are qualified because this is your last name.

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You are in Christ.

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You are righteous because you are in Christ.

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I want you guys to put your hands on your heart

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and I want you to repeat after me.

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Say, I am qualified.

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I am qualified because I'm in Christ.

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It is not about you guys.

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It is not about what you did or didn't do.

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It is about Jesus Christ and what he has done for you

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and you believing who he says you are.

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And so Father, right now, God, I just declare right now

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that there would be a clarity

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to recognize who you say they are, Father God.

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is ask people like, hey, what do you see as a gift in me?

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What do you experience when you're around me?

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What's a good thing?

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People you trust, because sometimes

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if you're not around a prophetic community

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because I know a lot of people that's real

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for a lot of people.

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is ask people that you trust and love like,

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hey, what are some of the best qualities about me

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that you're experiencing?

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when you walk in the room.

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Okay, that's part of something that you carry.

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It's part of like, you might be a peace bringer

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or peacemaker or for, you know,

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if you are a joy, a joy bringer, what does that mean?

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As an identity, you know, you have authority

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to walk into situations of mourning or depression.

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I'm a joy bringer.

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Just my very presence is here.

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It's gonna shift and break the atmosphere of depression.

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And so again, the next step

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to really not just discovering your name,

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it's owning it as well.

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It is owning who God says you are

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and believing who He says you are

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and knowing like, hey, I'm the right person for the job.

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Right now, I'm showing up.

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I love that.

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Wow, that is powerful, right?

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I'm like, I received that for myself.

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I'll take that.

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So good.

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Well, thank you so much, Bethany,

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for joining us this morning.

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It has been so fun.

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And thank you guys for joining us.

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We will be back tomorrow for our last coffee chat.

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I hope you have the most wonderful fourth day

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of School of the Prophets.

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We'll see you around.

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Hey guys, it's been so great to be with you.

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We'll see you in a few minutes.

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We'll see you in a few minutes.

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Check-check good morning. Good morning

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Good morning. Good morning

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We greet you all today. Good morning

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Good morning to you and you and you and you and you and you just singing for you this morning

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Oh, I love you too whoever said that I do

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Thank you

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Why don't you look at someone and say it's a good morning

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Hello Tisa, yes

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Good to have you in Reading Tisa you made it all the way here. What a gift

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How was community group this morning

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You

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Know it's so amazing

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We have found every year be at School of the Prophets

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Be at School of Ministry be at School of Ministry online that it is the group

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Sessions where you guys get to gather and connect that are some of the most powerful times of the whole experience

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You know, sometimes you think you're coming for a teacher and then you realize I came for my neighbor that lives in Tennessee

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Who's touching my life because God is flowing through them and I found someone

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You know, have you ever felt like no one else is like me anybody felt like that

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Yeah, my whole life and then you meet someone you're like, there's someone else on the planet that gets me anybody

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Amen

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If that is not a mark of the Prophet, I feel like a lot of prophets often feel like where do I fit?

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Right. Amen. You know what you do fit

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sometimes sometimes though forerunners a little different than followers, so

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It's not because we're actually disconnected sometimes it's because the Lord is taking us somewhere that we get to take people into which is very exciting

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Amen

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Okay, now that you settled down a bit. I'm gonna make a quick announcement. Is that okay?

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So tonight at 6 p.m. Some of my favorite human beings Chris and Kathy Vallotton will be doing a book signing

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For their books Kathy wrote a book called the good the God and the and the ugly

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This book was written because Chris got up here and preached a bunch of stories wrong. And so Kathy thought no, I'm joking

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Chris would share often parts of stories and people would be asking for more and Kathy

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Wrote just it's a book just of stories from their family how God moved through their family lessons. They learned it's a wonderful book

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And then Chris's book spiritual intelligence. He shared about it already here today both those books

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They're doing a book signing. It'll be in the South Lobby, which is that little Lobby on this side

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6 p.m. If you'd like them to sign you can go over to the bookstore or to our conference book table

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Which is back there. I believe is am I correct? Amen. It is back there

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And you can grab a book make sure you do that before the signing. They're not gonna have books at the signing table

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So grab a book somewhere in the duration of today and take it to get signed and then

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caveat is

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That you can get a hardcover

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book of

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Poverty riches and wealth. I believe it is. Am I correct? I'm doing this off memory. So poverty riches and wealth hardcover for $5

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Only for our conference members in person and online

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So if you are a conference member and you want to get that book, I feel like that's a relic a hardcover

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Poverty riches and wealth that is one to have for the books. I tell you so if you want to get that for five bucks

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That's for you to Hallelujah. Amen

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Are you guys alive?

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Okay, wonderful. You can't I'm like you kind of staring at me for a bit. So I want to make sure Ben gets up here and

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and really gets to

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Gets to go for it with you guys. So what I'm gonna have you do

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I'm trying to figure it out. I've got five minutes

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Do you know what can I tell you something once I went to I've done it twice actually

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I went to go speak at one of our revival groups

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Which is like 60 something people and any time I try to speak I sung

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So for an entire hour and a half I sung everything that I was saying

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because anytime I try speak I'd feel that I'd feel the anointing dip and so I'd have to be like I was

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Again, the angels are in the room, we welcome them.

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Hallelujah.

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Why don't you put out your hands right now?

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Literally, oh, you're doing it with me, okay, so what?

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Why don't you stand right now?

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Eh, de, de, de, de.

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Oh, God, we invite you to come and speak.

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Open our eyes, open our ears to hear and see you.

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Let our minds be open to the revelation of the spirit.

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Stir our spirits for more of you.

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Let the tender voice of heaven

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whisper the mysteries of the kingdom.

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Oh, he reveals the mysteries of the kingdom

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to his friends, we're your friends, Jesus.

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We love your heart, Jesus, we wanna know,

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we wanna know you.

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So anoint, Ben, to reveal mysteries.

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So touch our hearts to receive mysteries.

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Let our friend give us the mysteries.

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Yeah, God, we thank you for Ben Armstrong.

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We thank you for this mighty man of the spirit.

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God, I thank you for his stewardship of this message.

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God, we don't come just to receive information,

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but we open our hearts to receive an impartation.

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For you teach what you know, but you impart what you live.

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And God, we thank you.

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We're about to receive a lifestyle

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of connection and intimacy with you.

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And we get to step in through the door

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that Ben has created through friendship with you.

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We honour this prophet, we honour this prophet

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in Jesus' Name, Amen.

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Why don't you cheer for Ben?

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Thanks, Ben Armstrong.

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I'm just gonna adjust this real quick.

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Could I get a stool?

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Jeez.

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The answer is yes before you even ask.

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Yeah, that's right, right?

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Okay, holy spirit.

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Got some testimonies coming in of people healed.

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Someone got healed of vertigo last night

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with that ear thing.

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Yeah, I can't, it's on my phone.

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I'll share some more testimonies with you later.

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But God's healing people, that's just what he does.

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He rocks up in the room, he is healer.

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And so when he shows up, people get healed, right?

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Great miracles happen when we increase our awareness

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of his presence and his goodness.

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Holy spirit.

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Mahene, atah, shtutaneh, piki.

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The person of God is in the room.

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So we'll talk today, we'll spend some time talking

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on this theme of prophetic reformers.

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And I'm gonna take an emphasis on interpretation

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because I believe it is a skillset

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and it is a mandate that is on us.

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And if we want true reformation,

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we need to be skilled in interpretation.

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Revelations 11, 15, and I believe this is part

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of our reformers mandate is that the kingdoms

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of this world become the kingdoms of our Lord

522
00:29:29.720 --> 00:29:31.560
and his Christ.

523
00:29:31.560 --> 00:29:33.600
That's reformation.

524
00:29:33.600 --> 00:29:37.040
That's the, your kingdom come, your will be done

525
00:29:37.040 --> 00:29:40.480
on earth as it is in heaven mandate.

526
00:29:40.480 --> 00:29:41.680
That is it.

527
00:29:41.680 --> 00:29:45.680
And you know, in Genesis chapter 40, verse eight,

528
00:29:48.040 --> 00:29:51.160
when the cupbearer and the baker come to Joseph

529
00:29:51.160 --> 00:29:53.960
and they're frustrated because they know they had dreams

530
00:29:53.960 --> 00:29:55.320
that are gonna affect their life.

531
00:29:55.320 --> 00:29:58.280
They know they had a powerful dream

532
00:29:58.280 --> 00:30:00.080
and they're really concerned.

533
00:30:00.000 --> 00:30:03.500
And then they come running to Joseph and say,

534
00:30:03.500 --> 00:30:05.080
Joseph, we had these dreams,

535
00:30:05.080 --> 00:30:09.160
but there's no one to interpret our dreams.

536
00:30:10.480 --> 00:30:11.440
Panic.

537
00:30:13.400 --> 00:30:15.580
I know that sound

538
00:30:15.580 --> 00:30:20.160
because some of you run up to me every day.

539
00:30:20.160 --> 00:30:23.840
Ben, I need someone to interpret my dream.

540
00:30:23.840 --> 00:30:25.480
I know it's from God.

541
00:30:25.480 --> 00:30:26.600
I need help.

542
00:30:28.060 --> 00:30:29.480
Right?

543
00:30:29.480 --> 00:30:30.720
That's normal.

544
00:30:32.180 --> 00:30:37.180
Joseph responds, does not all interpretation belong to God?

545
00:30:39.880 --> 00:30:43.420
Does not all interpretation belong to God?

546
00:30:43.420 --> 00:30:45.280
Now, I want to say this.

547
00:30:45.280 --> 00:30:46.320
It doesn't just say,

548
00:30:46.320 --> 00:30:49.480
does not all dream interpretation belong to God?

549
00:30:51.200 --> 00:30:54.080
So interpretation is a broader theme

550
00:30:54.080 --> 00:30:56.760
than just dream interpretation.

551
00:30:56.760 --> 00:30:58.780
But there is a skillset

552
00:30:58.780 --> 00:31:01.560
that if you will learn dream interpretation,

553
00:31:01.560 --> 00:31:06.560
it will translate into a wisdom for other realms,

554
00:31:07.740 --> 00:31:12.300
other parts of information that are released.

555
00:31:12.300 --> 00:31:15.500
It will change the way you prophesy

556
00:31:15.500 --> 00:31:16.780
because how many of you know,

557
00:31:16.780 --> 00:31:20.660
many times in prophecy, we're prophesying,

558
00:31:20.660 --> 00:31:23.040
but we're seeing, we're getting a revelation.

559
00:31:23.040 --> 00:31:26.860
I saw a purple hippopotamus in a blue river

560
00:31:26.860 --> 00:31:28.660
and a golden eagle picked it up

561
00:31:28.660 --> 00:31:31.180
and dropped it in a yellow river.

562
00:31:31.180 --> 00:31:32.220
You're welcome.

563
00:31:42.140 --> 00:31:45.160
You know, that might work at School of the Prophets.

564
00:31:45.160 --> 00:31:48.380
Oh, I could, I'm tracking with you.

565
00:31:48.880 --> 00:31:51.120
Any place else, they're like,

566
00:31:59.120 --> 00:32:00.320
like that's creeper status.

567
00:32:00.320 --> 00:32:02.760
Like you're just like, well, who is that?

568
00:32:02.760 --> 00:32:04.760
What, what does that mean?

569
00:32:05.720 --> 00:32:07.720
Great, you got a revelation from God,

570
00:32:07.720 --> 00:32:10.640
but without the interpretation of that,

571
00:32:12.440 --> 00:32:16.440
it doesn't actually land or have its intended purpose.

572
00:32:16.440 --> 00:32:21.260
It doesn't land or have its intended effect.

573
00:32:21.260 --> 00:32:25.880
And so there has to be a level of interpretation

574
00:32:25.880 --> 00:32:28.700
that comes into our revelation.

575
00:32:28.700 --> 00:32:30.580
Sometimes it comes with an encounter.

576
00:32:30.580 --> 00:32:32.380
It's not just a prophetic word.

577
00:32:32.380 --> 00:32:33.900
Maybe it's an encounter with God.

578
00:32:33.900 --> 00:32:36.320
Okay, I've got to have some context.

579
00:32:36.320 --> 00:32:38.420
What's God speaking in this?

580
00:32:38.420 --> 00:32:41.220
What's God doing in this encounter?

581
00:32:41.220 --> 00:32:42.860
And what's it unto?

582
00:32:43.860 --> 00:32:48.860
So in prophecy, in interpretation, in dream interpretation,

583
00:32:49.280 --> 00:32:52.320
in dream interpretation, the revelation is the dream.

584
00:32:54.060 --> 00:32:54.900
Right?

585
00:32:56.260 --> 00:32:59.040
In an encounter, the revelation is the encounter.

586
00:32:59.040 --> 00:33:02.700
Sometimes that encounter needs in a vision

587
00:33:02.700 --> 00:33:04.760
that the vision would be the revelation,

588
00:33:04.760 --> 00:33:07.160
but it maybe needs some interpretation.

589
00:33:07.160 --> 00:33:08.520
And then we move on.

590
00:33:08.520 --> 00:33:12.000
If it's a prophetic word, we have the revelation,

591
00:33:12.060 --> 00:33:14.940
the interpretation, and then we get into something

592
00:33:14.940 --> 00:33:16.820
called the declaration.

593
00:33:16.820 --> 00:33:20.020
And I add on that side, on the side of that

594
00:33:20.020 --> 00:33:22.840
is declaration or intercession.

595
00:33:23.740 --> 00:33:27.100
Because sometimes the prophetic words that we receive

596
00:33:27.100 --> 00:33:28.940
aren't for declaration.

597
00:33:28.940 --> 00:33:33.940
They're actually for an intimate exchange with you and God.

598
00:33:34.380 --> 00:33:36.620
And you say, God, what's important to you

599
00:33:36.620 --> 00:33:39.780
I'll now make important to me through intercession.

600
00:33:39.960 --> 00:33:43.880
And intercession transforms me until I become the word,

601
00:33:43.880 --> 00:33:45.920
and then I can reproduce the word.

602
00:33:45.920 --> 00:33:48.840
And the last portion of that would be application.

603
00:33:48.840 --> 00:33:50.820
How do I apply this?

604
00:33:50.820 --> 00:33:52.920
How do I apply this to my life?

605
00:33:52.920 --> 00:33:56.200
See, we don't need just interpreters,

606
00:33:56.200 --> 00:33:59.820
because otherwise Pharaoh and all of Egypt

607
00:33:59.820 --> 00:34:02.240
and all of the known world would have died

608
00:34:03.240 --> 00:34:06.460
if we just had an interpreter in Joseph.

609
00:34:06.460 --> 00:34:09.120
Pharaoh has a revelation.

610
00:34:09.120 --> 00:34:10.560
He has a dream, right?

611
00:34:10.560 --> 00:34:13.000
Seven fat cows, seven lean cows.

612
00:34:13.000 --> 00:34:15.199
The seven lean cows come up out of the Nile,

613
00:34:15.199 --> 00:34:18.040
eat the seven fat cows, and they look even worse.

614
00:34:19.159 --> 00:34:20.620
Well, bummer for you, Pharaoh.

615
00:34:20.620 --> 00:34:23.360
You're gonna have seven years of great harvest

616
00:34:23.360 --> 00:34:25.440
and seven years of famine.

617
00:34:25.440 --> 00:34:28.000
And those seven years of famine are gonna swallow up

618
00:34:28.000 --> 00:34:30.400
all of the seven years of great harvest.

619
00:34:30.400 --> 00:34:31.580
See you later.

620
00:34:32.960 --> 00:34:35.440
I don't want just interpreters in here.

621
00:34:37.360 --> 00:34:39.840
Like if we're gonna be reformers,

622
00:34:39.840 --> 00:34:42.000
we need divine application.

623
00:34:42.000 --> 00:34:45.159
We need someone who takes ownership,

624
00:34:45.159 --> 00:34:47.760
declares the word over the king,

625
00:34:47.760 --> 00:34:50.679
and saves nations, not just a nation,

626
00:34:50.679 --> 00:34:52.760
saves nations of the world by saying,

627
00:34:52.760 --> 00:34:54.400
hey, you know what, Pharaoh?

628
00:34:54.400 --> 00:34:56.600
You know what you should do?

629
00:34:56.600 --> 00:34:58.520
In those seven years of great harvest,

630
00:34:58.520 --> 00:35:00.160
you should store up a fist.

631
00:35:00.000 --> 00:35:03.800
of everything so that when the seven years of famine come,

632
00:35:03.800 --> 00:35:05.120
you don't die.

633
00:35:05.120 --> 00:35:06.840
Pharaoh's like, oh,

634
00:35:10.760 --> 00:35:14.600
that's not wisdom from the earth.

635
00:35:14.600 --> 00:35:17.560
That's wisdom from another realm.

636
00:35:18.640 --> 00:35:20.560
And he recognizes that wisdom

637
00:35:20.560 --> 00:35:23.840
and it changes everything inside of Pharaoh.

638
00:35:23.840 --> 00:35:27.840
And Pharaoh says, you're the one to administer this.

639
00:35:28.120 --> 00:35:29.760
And I'm telling you right now,

640
00:35:29.760 --> 00:35:32.120
we are in a season where kings are dreaming,

641
00:35:33.040 --> 00:35:38.040
where leaders of huge influential places are dreaming

642
00:35:38.640 --> 00:35:43.080
or having encounters, but are there interpreters there

643
00:35:44.040 --> 00:35:47.920
so that the solutions of heaven can be released on earth?

644
00:35:49.360 --> 00:35:52.280
Because some of them, they're getting there

645
00:35:52.280 --> 00:35:54.600
because of their place of authority,

646
00:35:54.800 --> 00:35:55.880
because of their place.

647
00:35:55.880 --> 00:35:59.840
It doesn't matter if they're righteous kings and queens,

648
00:35:59.840 --> 00:36:02.040
righteous leaders.

649
00:36:02.040 --> 00:36:04.560
God has actually appointed them

650
00:36:04.560 --> 00:36:06.640
as leaders over those nations.

651
00:36:06.640 --> 00:36:09.720
And it's our job to get behind them to value them.

652
00:36:12.280 --> 00:36:14.000
This is big.

653
00:36:14.000 --> 00:36:17.000
Well, what about, yeah, but,

654
00:36:17.000 --> 00:36:19.640
you know, what if I don't agree with my leader?

655
00:36:20.840 --> 00:36:22.680
But this was Nebuchadnezzar.

656
00:36:23.360 --> 00:36:26.440
But this was Nebuchadnezzar and this was Pharaoh.

657
00:36:26.440 --> 00:36:28.600
Like, look at Daniel, look at Joseph.

658
00:36:28.600 --> 00:36:31.360
These were some of the wickedest rulers

659
00:36:31.360 --> 00:36:33.680
of the time of that day and age.

660
00:36:34.760 --> 00:36:38.520
Yet we have a Daniel who has an attitude

661
00:36:38.520 --> 00:36:40.520
that transforms everything.

662
00:36:40.520 --> 00:36:45.280
I love, I love his attitude,

663
00:36:45.280 --> 00:36:48.840
the heart posture that he had.

664
00:36:48.840 --> 00:36:51.200
Then Daniel went to Ariok,

665
00:36:51.200 --> 00:36:54.160
who the king had appointed to execute

666
00:36:54.160 --> 00:36:56.880
the wise men of Babylon and said to him,

667
00:36:56.880 --> 00:36:59.480
don't execute the wise men of Babylon.

668
00:36:59.480 --> 00:37:03.280
Take me to the king and I will interpret his dream.

669
00:37:04.120 --> 00:37:06.840
See, Daniel was not doing interpretation

670
00:37:06.840 --> 00:37:08.120
just for his benefit.

671
00:37:08.120 --> 00:37:11.320
He actually cared for those that he was

672
00:37:13.520 --> 00:37:17.800
appointed to lead, for those around him.

673
00:37:17.800 --> 00:37:19.560
He could have been in competition

674
00:37:19.560 --> 00:37:21.720
because a lot of times competition just says,

675
00:37:21.720 --> 00:37:24.640
yeah, kill those guys so I can look awesome.

676
00:37:26.600 --> 00:37:28.120
What makes you look awesome

677
00:37:31.120 --> 00:37:34.120
is when you actually serve everyone else.

678
00:37:35.880 --> 00:37:39.880
Daniel's response in Daniel 2, 27 and 28,

679
00:37:40.760 --> 00:37:45.200
no wise man, enchanter, magician, or diviner

680
00:37:45.200 --> 00:37:48.600
can explain the king this mystery,

681
00:37:50.080 --> 00:37:54.320
but there is a God in heaven who reveals all mysteries.

682
00:37:55.880 --> 00:37:59.880
And listen to this, he has shown you, King Nebuchadnezzar,

683
00:37:59.880 --> 00:38:02.400
what will happen in the days to come.

684
00:38:02.400 --> 00:38:06.520
Your dream and the vision that passed through your mind

685
00:38:06.520 --> 00:38:09.160
while you were lying on your bed,

686
00:38:09.160 --> 00:38:13.240
this is so that you'd know what God has.

687
00:38:13.840 --> 00:38:17.040
He valued the king in such a way

688
00:38:18.160 --> 00:38:21.120
that when he brought interpretation,

689
00:38:21.120 --> 00:38:23.360
and I wanna highlight this,

690
00:38:25.000 --> 00:38:27.920
Nebuchadnezzar said to the wise men and enchanters,

691
00:38:29.080 --> 00:38:34.080
you tell me my dream and the interpretation.

692
00:38:34.160 --> 00:38:37.520
And the wise men and the magician said,

693
00:38:37.520 --> 00:38:40.160
hey, no, no, no, King, you tell us the dream

694
00:38:40.160 --> 00:38:42.400
and we'll tell you what it means.

695
00:38:42.400 --> 00:38:45.480
I wanna tell you, I think that Nebuchadnezzar said,

696
00:38:45.480 --> 00:38:48.400
no, you tell me the dream and the interpretation

697
00:38:48.400 --> 00:38:51.360
because I'm so tired of me telling you my dream

698
00:38:51.360 --> 00:38:54.480
and you manipulating it to mean whatever it wants

699
00:38:54.480 --> 00:38:55.600
for your benefit.

700
00:38:56.520 --> 00:38:58.960
He's like, we're not doing that anymore.

701
00:38:58.960 --> 00:39:01.120
You're not gonna manipulate me.

702
00:39:01.120 --> 00:39:04.480
I'm so tired of it all being about you

703
00:39:05.480 --> 00:39:08.960
and not being about the benefit of our nation.

704
00:39:13.040 --> 00:39:15.160
Come on, this is so important.

705
00:39:15.160 --> 00:39:16.520
This is so important

706
00:39:18.000 --> 00:39:20.280
because the posture of our heart

707
00:39:20.280 --> 00:39:25.040
actually opens us up to more accurate interpretation.

708
00:39:27.080 --> 00:39:32.080
And this is a realm that I'm so passionate about.

709
00:39:32.600 --> 00:39:35.280
I wish, well, I don't wish,

710
00:39:35.280 --> 00:39:36.640
we already have a school for it.

711
00:39:36.640 --> 00:39:39.200
So, Dream Life School of Interpretation,

712
00:39:39.200 --> 00:39:40.480
which is in March,

713
00:39:40.560 --> 00:39:42.680
and you'll hear more about that tomorrow,

714
00:39:42.680 --> 00:39:46.480
but we're gonna scratch and sniff something today

715
00:39:46.480 --> 00:39:49.520
that is gonna make your appetite want more and more.

716
00:39:49.520 --> 00:39:52.200
And that is what School of the Prophets is.

717
00:39:52.200 --> 00:39:55.200
This isn't like the landing spot.

718
00:39:55.200 --> 00:39:59.920
This is one step onto a lifetime of pursuit of God.

719
00:40:00.000 --> 00:40:03.800
in many different areas and hopefully this gets you

720
00:40:03.800 --> 00:40:06.040
so excited and passionate.

721
00:40:06.040 --> 00:40:10.880
I don't want just one Joseph or Daniel running around.

722
00:40:10.880 --> 00:40:14.640
Listen, I get tired of interpreting all the time.

723
00:40:17.040 --> 00:40:21.880
Interpreting encounters, interpreting prophetic words,

724
00:40:21.880 --> 00:40:25.160
interpreting patterns, signs, trends, all this stuff,

725
00:40:25.160 --> 00:40:26.320
interpreting dreams.

726
00:40:26.320 --> 00:40:28.620
I don't wanna be the only one doing it.

727
00:40:30.400 --> 00:40:32.920
What if we had a whole generation?

728
00:40:32.920 --> 00:40:37.120
I believe God's raising up a Joseph and Daniel generation

729
00:40:37.120 --> 00:40:42.040
right now of interpreters, those who are 10 times wiser

730
00:40:42.040 --> 00:40:45.720
than everyone else out there and they have the ability

731
00:40:45.720 --> 00:40:47.760
to interpret dreams and visions.

732
00:40:49.120 --> 00:40:50.680
The ability to do that.

733
00:40:50.680 --> 00:40:53.440
And I believe we are gonna be 10 times wiser.

734
00:40:53.440 --> 00:40:56.160
Let me just talk to that thing we talked about

735
00:40:56.160 --> 00:40:58.900
about psychology and I know we were talking

736
00:40:58.900 --> 00:41:03.900
about hypnotism but here's a difficulty in psychology.

737
00:41:04.060 --> 00:41:07.860
In traditional psychology, let me give you the definition

738
00:41:07.860 --> 00:41:10.060
of traditional psychology.

739
00:41:10.060 --> 00:41:15.060
It is the scientific study of the mind and behavior.

740
00:41:15.300 --> 00:41:19.580
Psychology includes the study of conscious

741
00:41:19.580 --> 00:41:24.260
and unconscious phenomena including feelings and thoughts.

742
00:41:25.100 --> 00:41:26.220
What's missing?

743
00:41:27.520 --> 00:41:28.360
That's right.

744
00:41:29.460 --> 00:41:34.460
It's missing a whole realm which is the spiritual realm.

745
00:41:34.740 --> 00:41:37.500
And as long as we do that and we use Jungian

746
00:41:37.500 --> 00:41:41.340
or Freudian style of interpretation,

747
00:41:41.340 --> 00:41:46.340
it actually relegates only to a portion of wisdom

748
00:41:46.420 --> 00:41:48.840
and it doesn't actually bring the full wisdom.

749
00:41:48.840 --> 00:41:53.840
If God is not included in it, we are missing something.

750
00:41:54.100 --> 00:41:56.860
And that's the scary part that Chris and Dano

751
00:41:56.860 --> 00:41:59.740
are talking about is we gotta be careful

752
00:41:59.740 --> 00:42:04.740
but God is raising up his psychologist right now.

753
00:42:04.740 --> 00:42:07.540
I'm telling you, there are people who are so passionate

754
00:42:07.540 --> 00:42:10.100
about this and so passionate about God

755
00:42:10.100 --> 00:42:14.480
and bridging the spiritual and the physical world

756
00:42:14.480 --> 00:42:17.740
rather than trying to say, oh, you had some spiritual thought

757
00:42:17.740 --> 00:42:19.100
you thought it was spiritual.

758
00:42:19.100 --> 00:42:22.140
Oh no, no, that's just in your brain, you're crazy.

759
00:42:23.180 --> 00:42:26.380
No, you're actually crazy if you don't acknowledge

760
00:42:26.900 --> 00:42:27.740
the spirit realm.

761
00:42:29.500 --> 00:42:31.260
It's so vitally important.

762
00:42:33.180 --> 00:42:34.500
It's impossible.

763
00:42:34.500 --> 00:42:36.980
All interpretation belongs to God.

764
00:42:38.540 --> 00:42:41.380
God is the revealer of mysteries.

765
00:42:41.380 --> 00:42:46.380
And I believe Chris saw a black panther walk through here

766
00:42:46.740 --> 00:42:50.900
last night and I believe a portion of that

767
00:42:50.900 --> 00:42:55.440
is actually connected to God raising up mystics again.

768
00:42:56.380 --> 00:42:57.220
Amen.

769
00:43:00.660 --> 00:43:04.460
Dano gave a definition about mysteries

770
00:43:04.460 --> 00:43:08.980
and it would have been secrets in the Old Testament

771
00:43:08.980 --> 00:43:13.980
and then translated mysteries in the New Testament.

772
00:43:15.820 --> 00:43:20.820
But those who are passionate about the mysteries of God,

773
00:43:21.380 --> 00:43:25.060
about the mysteries of God, and let me just say this.

774
00:43:27.380 --> 00:43:30.060
I'm passionate about the mysteries of God.

775
00:43:30.060 --> 00:43:33.920
However, my passion for the mysteries of God

776
00:43:33.920 --> 00:43:37.420
are only because I'm actually passionate about God.

777
00:43:39.340 --> 00:43:42.700
My definition of mystics is this,

778
00:43:42.700 --> 00:43:44.740
one who through intimacy with God

779
00:43:44.740 --> 00:43:46.300
reveals the secrets of God.

780
00:43:46.820 --> 00:43:47.820
That's good.

781
00:43:48.980 --> 00:43:53.260
It's through my intimacy with God

782
00:43:53.260 --> 00:43:56.540
that I learn more about him.

783
00:43:56.540 --> 00:43:58.460
And he is the mysterious one.

784
00:43:58.460 --> 00:44:01.280
He comes shrouded in the clouds.

785
00:44:01.280 --> 00:44:02.120
Why?

786
00:44:02.120 --> 00:44:03.900
Because it's an invitation to intimacy.

787
00:44:03.900 --> 00:44:07.380
And as I get intimate with him, I learn more about him.

788
00:44:07.380 --> 00:44:08.740
It's like my wife, Heather.

789
00:44:08.740 --> 00:44:10.320
Heather, will you wave to everyone?

790
00:44:10.320 --> 00:44:11.900
This is my baby.

791
00:44:11.900 --> 00:44:12.820
Heather Armstrong.

792
00:44:13.820 --> 00:44:18.020
My wife, Heather, I know things about her.

793
00:44:18.020 --> 00:44:19.140
No one else knows.

794
00:44:19.140 --> 00:44:19.960
Why?

795
00:44:19.960 --> 00:44:21.740
Because we're intimate with one another.

796
00:44:21.740 --> 00:44:23.640
The more time I spend with her,

797
00:44:23.640 --> 00:44:26.260
the more I actually think like her.

798
00:44:26.260 --> 00:44:29.380
The more that when I'm in a situation

799
00:44:29.380 --> 00:44:31.120
and someone asks me a question,

800
00:44:31.120 --> 00:44:34.540
I'm not thinking just with the mind of Ben Armstrong.

801
00:44:34.540 --> 00:44:37.700
I'm also thinking with the mind of Heather Armstrong.

802
00:44:37.700 --> 00:44:40.660
And I'm also thinking with the mind of Christ.

803
00:44:40.660 --> 00:44:44.180
So I have multiple conversations going on in my head

804
00:44:44.180 --> 00:44:46.340
at any given time.

805
00:44:46.340 --> 00:44:47.540
I love Steve Backlin.

806
00:44:47.540 --> 00:44:51.100
He says, you're crazy if you don't talk to yourself.

807
00:44:51.100 --> 00:44:53.620
And you're also crazy if you don't talk to your wife

808
00:44:53.620 --> 00:44:55.660
in that conversation as well.

809
00:45:00.000 --> 00:45:07.520
So we're talking about interpretation and that intimacy with God.

810
00:45:07.520 --> 00:45:14.320
There is a place of intimacy that also makes you think like God.

811
00:45:14.320 --> 00:45:17.960
Can you get that type of relationship with God?

812
00:45:17.960 --> 00:45:21.080
I think so, because Samuel had it.

813
00:45:21.080 --> 00:45:27.000
He had that kind of relationship and that kind of trust that it said that of Samuel,

814
00:45:27.000 --> 00:45:32.000
God let none of Samuel's words fall to the ground without accomplishing them.

815
00:45:32.000 --> 00:45:33.400
What does that mean?

816
00:45:33.400 --> 00:45:38.360
When Samuel spoke, God was like, oh, that sounds like my voice.

817
00:45:38.360 --> 00:45:40.320
I would say something like that.

818
00:45:40.320 --> 00:45:42.760
I would do something like that.

819
00:45:42.760 --> 00:45:45.880
We're going to do that, because that's actually in my heart.

820
00:45:45.880 --> 00:45:48.960
You know me that intimately.

821
00:45:48.960 --> 00:45:51.240
I'm going to follow that thing.

822
00:45:51.240 --> 00:45:57.840
And I want us to grow in that level of intimacy with him and connection with him.

823
00:45:57.840 --> 00:46:05.800
And as we do, it's going to be less about, oh, let me map out your dream and let me figure

824
00:46:05.800 --> 00:46:06.920
out the interpretation.

825
00:46:06.920 --> 00:46:11.640
No, you'll think like God thinks.

826
00:46:11.640 --> 00:46:12.640
Here's the deal.

827
00:46:12.640 --> 00:46:16.720
I do a whole course on dream interpretation.

828
00:46:16.720 --> 00:46:22.800
We give you a different style of interpreting dreams and all this stuff, and you can go

829
00:46:22.800 --> 00:46:24.920
through that and you can practice that.

830
00:46:24.920 --> 00:46:29.280
But when it comes to dream interpretation for me, I don't whiteboard my dreams.

831
00:46:29.280 --> 00:46:32.720
I don't white paper your dream and try and figure it out.

832
00:46:32.720 --> 00:46:35.160
It's just, I think like God.

833
00:46:35.160 --> 00:46:37.960
Now, I'm not trying to brag.

834
00:46:37.960 --> 00:46:44.400
My wife says I have a gift on my life, which, you know, you want to trust your wife.

835
00:46:45.400 --> 00:46:47.600
Amen.

836
00:46:47.600 --> 00:46:52.720
She says I have a gift, which I do, but I also have a skill that I've learned through

837
00:46:52.720 --> 00:46:55.120
practice and repetition.

838
00:46:55.120 --> 00:46:58.240
I do it so much that it's second nature.

839
00:46:58.240 --> 00:47:04.560
I do it so much that in a dream, I'm interpreting my dream.

840
00:47:04.560 --> 00:47:06.040
How do you do that?

841
00:47:06.040 --> 00:47:11.160
Because I train my subconscious mind through my conscious mind.

842
00:47:11.160 --> 00:47:12.920
I'm training myself.

843
00:47:12.920 --> 00:47:17.360
There are times where I have dreams and I go to interpret the dream, but God is standing

844
00:47:17.360 --> 00:47:22.680
right next to me in the dream as I'm watching myself do the dream.

845
00:47:22.680 --> 00:47:26.680
We're standing outside and he's interpreting the dream for me.

846
00:47:26.680 --> 00:47:29.320
All interpretation belongs to God.

847
00:47:29.320 --> 00:47:35.160
Some years ago, a prophet emailed me a dream and said, hey, could you interpret my dream?

848
00:47:35.160 --> 00:47:39.920
And I looked at the dream and instantly I knew 95% of that dream.

849
00:47:39.920 --> 00:47:42.240
I was like, yeah, yeah, I know that.

850
00:47:42.240 --> 00:47:48.720
And there was one component of the dream, one symbol in the dream that wasn't literal.

851
00:47:48.720 --> 00:47:49.720
It was symbolic.

852
00:47:49.720 --> 00:47:51.840
And I was like, okay, what is the meaning of this?

853
00:47:51.840 --> 00:47:53.200
And I was racking my brain.

854
00:47:53.200 --> 00:47:55.640
I couldn't figure it out.

855
00:47:55.640 --> 00:47:56.840
Just couldn't figure it out.

856
00:47:56.840 --> 00:48:03.880
And I was so frustrated and that night I lay on my bed and I'm like, Lord, I need wisdom.

857
00:48:03.880 --> 00:48:05.680
I need your help with this one.

858
00:48:05.680 --> 00:48:10.320
I really believe God was hiding it from me.

859
00:48:10.400 --> 00:48:13.960
Because there is a point where you think you can get really good at something and do it

860
00:48:13.960 --> 00:48:16.400
independent of God.

861
00:48:16.400 --> 00:48:19.720
And then you just rely on your skill, not your relationship.

862
00:48:19.720 --> 00:48:23.760
And then you forget the voice.

863
00:48:23.760 --> 00:48:27.160
And I can't do that without the voice.

864
00:48:27.160 --> 00:48:31.560
So I'm sitting there laying on my bed and I'm like, God, I need your voice.

865
00:48:31.560 --> 00:48:36.640
I need your wisdom because my wisdom is lacking.

866
00:48:36.640 --> 00:48:40.960
And not five minutes later, my wife walks into the room and did something she had never

867
00:48:40.960 --> 00:48:42.280
done in her marriage.

868
00:48:42.280 --> 00:48:49.240
She says, I feel like I need to pray over you right now that you would, that God would

869
00:48:49.240 --> 00:48:51.320
give you wisdom in a dream tonight.

870
00:48:51.320 --> 00:48:53.520
She didn't know what I was racking my brain about.

871
00:48:53.520 --> 00:48:55.000
I hadn't told her about it.

872
00:48:55.000 --> 00:49:00.160
She lays her hands on me, prays over me, wisdom in a dream, and I drop into a sleep.

873
00:49:00.160 --> 00:49:08.640
I go to sleep and in the dream, I get the interpretation of this other person's dream.

874
00:49:08.640 --> 00:49:17.400
And I'm like, so in the dream, I'm laying face to face with this prophet and his wife.

875
00:49:17.400 --> 00:49:20.240
And I said, well, the dream means this.

876
00:49:20.240 --> 00:49:22.400
And I begin to lay out the dream.

877
00:49:22.400 --> 00:49:28.200
And then I said, or it could mean, and the wife says, stop.

878
00:49:28.200 --> 00:49:32.560
That's what the dream means.

879
00:49:32.560 --> 00:49:33.800
It was a beautiful moment.

880
00:49:33.800 --> 00:49:38.920
It reminds me of Daniel, remember, with Nebuchadnezzar's dream.

881
00:49:38.920 --> 00:49:44.720
In a vision in the night, he got the dream and the interpretation.

882
00:49:44.720 --> 00:49:51.040
And I love those moments, but we cannot independently get so good at something.

883
00:49:51.040 --> 00:49:54.960
And that's what secular dream interpretation does.

884
00:49:54.960 --> 00:49:58.320
I can gain a skill set apart from God.

885
00:49:58.320 --> 00:50:00.000
Yeah, guess what?

886
00:50:00.000 --> 00:50:05.160
does, it pollutes the interpretation. It's man's wisdom, but we're not looking

887
00:50:05.160 --> 00:50:09.840
for a man's wisdom. We're looking for God's wisdom. Let's look at someone's

888
00:50:09.840 --> 00:50:17.640
life real quick. Jeremiah. Jeremiah chapter 1 verses 4 through 15, and I'm

889
00:50:17.640 --> 00:50:22.120
gonna read all this because I think it's important. The Word of Lord came to me

890
00:50:22.120 --> 00:50:33.060
saying, before I formed you in the womb, I knew you. Before you were born, I set

891
00:50:33.060 --> 00:50:42.920
you apart. I appointed you as a prophet to the nations. Alas, sovereign Lord, I

892
00:50:42.920 --> 00:50:49.640
said, I do not know how to speak. I am too young. Let's throw in, I am too young or

893
00:50:49.640 --> 00:51:00.680
I am too old. Yeah, but the Lord said to me, do not say that. Don't say you're too

894
00:51:00.680 --> 00:51:07.400
young. You must go to everyone I send you to and say whatever I command you. Do not

895
00:51:07.400 --> 00:51:12.840
be afraid of them, for I am with you and I will rescue you, declares the Lord. Then

896
00:51:12.840 --> 00:51:17.160
the Lord reached out his hand. He touched my mouth and said to me, I have put my

897
00:51:17.160 --> 00:51:23.440
words in your mouth. See, today I appoint you over nations and kingdoms to uproot,

898
00:51:23.440 --> 00:51:29.240
tear down, to destroy and overthrow, to build and to plant. The Word of the Lord

899
00:51:29.240 --> 00:51:36.560
came to me. What do you see, Jeremiah? I see the branch of an almond tree, I

900
00:51:36.560 --> 00:51:44.680
replied. The Lord said, you have seen correctly, for I am watching to see that

901
00:51:44.680 --> 00:51:49.800
my word is fulfilled. You know what's unique here? This is the first time I see

902
00:51:49.800 --> 00:51:59.320
in the Bible a play on words. Because almond branch in the Hebrew language

903
00:51:59.320 --> 00:52:07.880
sounds like watching. And God used a play on words to actually interpret

904
00:52:07.880 --> 00:52:13.240
something that was going on. You may have a dream and destiny, your friend destiny

905
00:52:13.240 --> 00:52:17.760
shows up in your dream and you're hanging out with destiny and doing all kinds of things

906
00:52:17.760 --> 00:52:24.300
with destiny. And maybe, just maybe, your friend isn't your real friend destiny. Maybe

907
00:52:24.300 --> 00:52:31.700
God's talking about your destiny. Chris Vallotton shows up in so many people's dreams and they

908
00:52:31.700 --> 00:52:36.260
all come to me and say, hey, could you introduce me to Chris Vallotton? Because I was friends

909
00:52:36.260 --> 00:52:42.800
with Chris Vallotton in my dream. And I was at his house and I saw pictures of it. It

910
00:52:42.800 --> 00:52:47.560
was the same house. So I know I'm supposed to be friends with him. No, maybe you're supposed

911
00:52:47.560 --> 00:52:55.880
to be friends with the prophetic. We want to be careful that we don't always make things

912
00:52:55.880 --> 00:53:04.600
literal that are actually symbolic. An interpretation is real important. And so we see this interpretation

913
00:53:04.600 --> 00:53:12.760
same thing and God's training Jeremiah. What do you see? I see an almond tree. I replied

914
00:53:12.760 --> 00:53:19.720
and the Lord said, you have seen correctly for I'm watching to see that my word is fulfilled.

915
00:53:19.720 --> 00:53:26.040
The word of the Lord came to me again. What do you see? I see a pot boiling. That is boiling.

916
00:53:26.040 --> 00:53:33.480
I answered. It is tilting towards us from the north. The Lord said, from the north disaster

917
00:53:33.480 --> 00:53:40.440
will be poured out on all who live in the land. And I am about to summon all the peoples

918
00:53:40.440 --> 00:53:45.360
of the northern kingdom, declares the Lord. And he goes on from there. Let me just tell

919
00:53:45.360 --> 00:53:56.440
you, interpretation here was connected to the voice. It's not separate from the voice.

920
00:53:56.440 --> 00:54:02.120
I've got to have the voice of God. If I'm interpreting, oh, I got a pain in my neck.

921
00:54:02.120 --> 00:54:09.720
God must want to heal necks. Yeah, unless he doesn't want to heal necks. Are you listening

922
00:54:09.720 --> 00:54:15.760
to the voice? Or are you just listening to experience? Oh, I saw Chris do that. He felt

923
00:54:15.760 --> 00:54:20.840
a pain in his neck. So obviously it's a word of knowledge for healing until it's not. Some

924
00:54:20.840 --> 00:54:28.960
years ago I was with a group and some good friends of ours, Young and Hannah Kim and

925
00:54:28.960 --> 00:54:35.200
Young and Hannah are some great friends. They cook really well. And they usually like

926
00:54:35.200 --> 00:54:40.920
to invite us over for dinner when any of their friends or pastors were in town. And I always

927
00:54:40.920 --> 00:54:47.720
knew it was a little bit of a bribe. It was a little bit of like, hey, if I can get Ben

928
00:54:47.720 --> 00:54:53.360
and Heather over here and I feed them, then they'll prophesy over my friends. So I always

929
00:54:53.360 --> 00:54:59.560
knew, okay, Young and Hannah want us to prophesy over their friends. Right, baby? And so, so

930
00:54:59.560 --> 00:54:59.840
we.

931
00:55:00.000 --> 00:55:05.600
We rock up to the house and we get there and we finish our meal and it's amazing, it's so good.

932
00:55:05.600 --> 00:55:11.200
And all of a sudden I get pain in three vertebrae in my neck.

933
00:55:13.200 --> 00:55:17.440
And I'm having an internal conversation, not an external conversation.

934
00:55:17.440 --> 00:55:22.000
Right away I said, oh God, does one of them have a problem with their neck?

935
00:55:23.360 --> 00:55:24.800
Do you want to heal their neck?

936
00:55:25.600 --> 00:55:26.960
And he said, no.

937
00:55:30.720 --> 00:55:32.000
Okay, well what is that?

938
00:55:32.640 --> 00:55:36.960
He says, they don't have support as the head of the church.

939
00:55:38.800 --> 00:55:43.200
And there's three broken spots there and I'm actually restoring and bringing

940
00:55:43.200 --> 00:55:46.160
three new couples to support them as the head of the church.

941
00:55:47.920 --> 00:55:49.520
Okay, okay.

942
00:55:50.080 --> 00:55:57.600
So I said, okay, hey, do you guys feel supported as the leaders of the church?

943
00:55:57.680 --> 00:56:00.800
No, we haven't felt supported for a long time.

944
00:56:00.800 --> 00:56:05.040
I said, I see three new couples who are going to come in and support you.

945
00:56:05.040 --> 00:56:08.240
They're like, they just moved here, we know exactly who they are.

946
00:56:09.440 --> 00:56:11.200
It affirmed and confirmed.

947
00:56:11.840 --> 00:56:15.280
And then all of a sudden I felt instant pain in my kidneys.

948
00:56:15.920 --> 00:56:17.920
And I'm like, oh, do they have kidney problems?

949
00:56:17.920 --> 00:56:20.560
Like what's going on?

950
00:56:21.120 --> 00:56:22.480
Internal conversation.

951
00:56:22.480 --> 00:56:23.360
God, what is this?

952
00:56:23.920 --> 00:56:32.320
And God said, there's no one to filter out wrong wisdom in their church.

953
00:56:33.440 --> 00:56:35.680
And I'm raising up two new kidneys for them.

954
00:56:35.680 --> 00:56:39.920
I'm raising up two new people to filter toxins from the body.

955
00:56:39.920 --> 00:56:43.040
And I shared that and they're like, we know exactly who those two are.

956
00:56:43.760 --> 00:56:44.800
What did it do?

957
00:56:44.800 --> 00:56:47.680
It confirmed and affirmed something that they thought,

958
00:56:47.680 --> 00:56:50.400
they didn't know exactly how they fit,

959
00:56:50.960 --> 00:56:53.840
but it actually put a place for those people.

960
00:56:55.680 --> 00:56:57.040
But we gotta be careful.

961
00:56:57.040 --> 00:57:00.400
Like we're receiving information all the time.

962
00:57:00.400 --> 00:57:03.040
And if we're not careful, we just think it's this.

963
00:57:05.040 --> 00:57:10.960
The old phrase, hey, if you hear a negative word over someone,

964
00:57:10.960 --> 00:57:13.520
you see the dirt in someone's life.

965
00:57:13.520 --> 00:57:15.120
Just prophesy the opposite.

966
00:57:15.760 --> 00:57:19.440
That is, I get it.

967
00:57:19.440 --> 00:57:25.440
Prophesy the opposite if God's not saying anything or just don't say anything.

968
00:57:28.000 --> 00:57:30.720
Seriously, we're not looking for dirt.

969
00:57:32.000 --> 00:57:36.560
And the dirt isn't always an indicator of what God is doing.

970
00:57:36.560 --> 00:57:40.240
It's an indicator of the devil's response to what God is doing

971
00:57:40.240 --> 00:57:41.840
because the devil cannot create.

972
00:57:42.960 --> 00:57:47.680
So now I've got to figure out, well, God, what are you releasing?

973
00:57:48.400 --> 00:57:51.120
Yeah, well, there's a spirit of suicide in the room.

974
00:57:51.120 --> 00:57:51.920
I could feel it.

975
00:57:52.480 --> 00:57:54.080
Let's just go after suicide.

976
00:57:54.080 --> 00:57:55.440
Yeah, you could do that.

977
00:57:55.440 --> 00:58:00.160
And then, oh, we're just gonna release life because that's the opposite.

978
00:58:00.160 --> 00:58:03.200
Maybe, but maybe God's releasing purpose.

979
00:58:05.760 --> 00:58:09.120
So I need to gear in on what God's releasing.

980
00:58:09.120 --> 00:58:10.400
And then I release that.

981
00:58:10.400 --> 00:58:12.960
And that actually defeats the spirit of suicide

982
00:58:12.960 --> 00:58:15.680
without me even talking about the spirit of suicide.

983
00:58:18.560 --> 00:58:22.400
And I don't want to get too much into spiritual warfare,

984
00:58:22.400 --> 00:58:28.160
but wrong interpretation actually gets us fighting with the wrong kingdom.

985
00:58:28.160 --> 00:58:32.000
And it's the nature of distraction.

986
00:58:32.000 --> 00:58:34.160
The enemy loves to distract us.

987
00:58:34.160 --> 00:58:38.240
Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil by doing good.

988
00:58:38.240 --> 00:58:41.760
My job is to figure out what God is creating and releasing.

989
00:58:41.760 --> 00:58:44.320
That's what prophets do when they come into the room.

990
00:58:44.320 --> 00:58:46.080
We're interpreting all the time.

991
00:58:46.800 --> 00:58:47.520
What's going on?

992
00:58:48.080 --> 00:58:49.200
Devil's doing something.

993
00:58:49.200 --> 00:58:51.440
Okay, yeah, of course.

994
00:58:53.040 --> 00:58:54.080
High five.

995
00:58:54.080 --> 00:58:55.760
Yep, you saw the dirt.

996
00:58:55.760 --> 00:58:57.520
Demonic kingdom, pride filled.

997
00:58:57.520 --> 00:58:59.360
Look at me, look at me, look at what I'm doing.

998
00:58:59.360 --> 00:59:00.720
Get distracted, fight me.

999
00:59:03.440 --> 00:59:04.880
No, God, what are you doing?

1000
00:59:04.880 --> 00:59:08.400
See, accurate interpretation always lies with God.

1001
00:59:09.120 --> 00:59:12.640
It always points his attention, affection towards God.

1002
00:59:12.640 --> 00:59:15.840
I have to have that continually.

1003
00:59:15.840 --> 00:59:19.360
I walk in a room and I'm saying, God, what are you doing?

1004
00:59:19.360 --> 00:59:21.200
Not, what's going on in the room?

1005
00:59:24.240 --> 00:59:30.160
There's a spirit of suspicion that has crept into the prophetic for a long time.

1006
00:59:30.880 --> 00:59:32.320
I'm not a devil hunter.

1007
00:59:34.720 --> 00:59:36.560
I'm a kingdom establisher.

1008
00:59:38.720 --> 00:59:40.080
That's reformation.

1009
00:59:40.080 --> 00:59:45.520
The reformation that we're looking for is actually interpreting what God's doing in a moment.

1010
00:59:45.520 --> 00:59:47.360
It's transforming people.

1011
00:59:47.360 --> 00:59:49.680
Dano did it with the businessman.

1012
00:59:49.680 --> 00:59:52.080
Let me, I'm not going to prophesy over you.

1013
00:59:52.080 --> 00:59:54.400
Let me interpret one of your experiences.

1014
00:59:55.200 --> 00:59:57.200
He introduced him to God.

1015
00:59:57.200 --> 00:59:59.760
Some years ago, we had a family.

1016
01:00:00.000 --> 01:00:03.640
a pre-believing family come to our house.

1017
01:00:03.640 --> 01:00:05.480
And they wanted to share with us

1018
01:00:05.480 --> 01:00:07.560
half of the communion elements.

1019
01:00:10.880 --> 01:00:12.200
A bottle of wine.

1020
01:00:15.720 --> 01:00:17.240
They're halfway there.

1021
01:00:20.880 --> 01:00:24.960
And the lady, we're having a conversation

1022
01:00:24.960 --> 01:00:26.640
and out of the blue she says,

1023
01:00:26.640 --> 01:00:28.660
I had a crazy dream last night.

1024
01:00:30.000 --> 01:00:35.000
I said, oh, do you have dreams often?

1025
01:00:35.120 --> 01:00:36.640
Yes, I do.

1026
01:00:36.640 --> 01:00:38.520
Do you ever feel like they mean something?

1027
01:00:38.520 --> 01:00:40.160
Could they mean something?

1028
01:00:40.160 --> 01:00:41.520
I don't know.

1029
01:00:41.520 --> 01:00:43.000
I said, do you ever have things

1030
01:00:43.000 --> 01:00:46.480
where you think of something and then it happens?

1031
01:00:46.480 --> 01:00:47.760
Yeah.

1032
01:00:47.760 --> 01:00:50.680
I said, you might have a prophetic gift.

1033
01:00:50.680 --> 01:00:51.980
What's that?

1034
01:00:51.980 --> 01:00:53.780
Well, if you were one of my students

1035
01:00:53.780 --> 01:00:55.480
in the school of ministry,

1036
01:00:55.480 --> 01:00:59.680
I'd tell you about being able to recognize the future

1037
01:01:00.360 --> 01:01:03.080
and I'd tell you about dreams and dream interpretation.

1038
01:01:03.080 --> 01:01:05.080
And if you were one of my students, I'd say,

1039
01:01:05.080 --> 01:01:06.960
yeah, your dream could mean something.

1040
01:01:06.960 --> 01:01:08.580
Well, can I tell you my dream?

1041
01:01:08.580 --> 01:01:10.000
Sure, tell me your dream.

1042
01:01:10.000 --> 01:01:15.000
Well, I had this dream that I was sitting there

1043
01:01:15.000 --> 01:01:20.000
with a pet rat and this pet rat had braces on its teeth.

1044
01:01:22.120 --> 01:01:26.720
And she said, I didn't want this pet rat.

1045
01:01:26.720 --> 01:01:28.160
And I kept trying to give it away.

1046
01:01:28.160 --> 01:01:29.600
No one would take the pet rat.

1047
01:01:30.400 --> 01:01:31.240
I tried to give it to my sister.

1048
01:01:31.240 --> 01:01:33.240
And she's like, no, I'm not taking that thing.

1049
01:01:35.000 --> 01:01:37.520
And I'm left with this pet rat.

1050
01:01:37.520 --> 01:01:39.080
Does that mean something?

1051
01:01:39.080 --> 01:01:41.280
I said, well, if you were one of my students,

1052
01:01:43.920 --> 01:01:47.340
I would say, yeah, that potentially means something.

1053
01:01:47.340 --> 01:01:49.480
She's inquiring, what am I doing?

1054
01:01:49.480 --> 01:01:53.560
I'm allowing her to receive something without telling her,

1055
01:01:53.560 --> 01:01:54.840
hey, this is what it means.

1056
01:01:54.840 --> 01:01:56.000
Here's what's going on.

1057
01:01:57.100 --> 01:01:58.580
I said, what do rats do?

1058
01:02:00.520 --> 01:02:03.320
Well, they eat things.

1059
01:02:03.320 --> 01:02:06.720
Like, obviously the rat was negative in this dream

1060
01:02:06.720 --> 01:02:07.840
because she's trying to get rid of it.

1061
01:02:07.840 --> 01:02:09.160
She didn't like it.

1062
01:02:09.160 --> 01:02:10.880
So it's not a positive thing.

1063
01:02:10.880 --> 01:02:13.320
It's not a positive pet rat.

1064
01:02:15.620 --> 01:02:20.280
When you think of rats, you think of disease.

1065
01:02:20.280 --> 01:02:23.560
You think of devouring food, getting into the food

1066
01:02:23.560 --> 01:02:25.840
and spoiling the whole thing.

1067
01:02:25.840 --> 01:02:28.780
I said, I have a question.

1068
01:02:30.360 --> 01:02:32.420
Have you ever had moments in your life

1069
01:02:32.420 --> 01:02:34.200
where whenever you get a good thing,

1070
01:02:34.200 --> 01:02:37.100
it seems like something breaks down,

1071
01:02:37.100 --> 01:02:38.500
something steals that away.

1072
01:02:38.500 --> 01:02:41.680
You just get money and then a car breaks down.

1073
01:02:41.680 --> 01:02:45.680
And she's like, all the time.

1074
01:02:45.680 --> 01:02:47.320
Like, yeah.

1075
01:02:50.800 --> 01:02:55.800
Well, I said, is this something

1076
01:02:55.800 --> 01:02:59.240
that has potentially been normal

1077
01:02:59.240 --> 01:03:01.880
in your family for a long time?

1078
01:03:03.040 --> 01:03:06.040
Because she was trying to get rid of the rat to the family.

1079
01:03:07.640 --> 01:03:09.640
And she says, yeah.

1080
01:03:09.640 --> 01:03:12.560
I mean, for as long as I can remember,

1081
01:03:12.560 --> 01:03:16.240
this type of stuff has always happened to our family.

1082
01:03:16.240 --> 01:03:18.720
And I said, if you were one of our students

1083
01:03:18.720 --> 01:03:21.380
in School of Supernatural Ministry,

1084
01:03:21.380 --> 01:03:24.340
I'd say, potentially,

1085
01:03:26.460 --> 01:03:28.820
there's something called generational curses.

1086
01:03:28.820 --> 01:03:30.180
Have you ever heard of those?

1087
01:03:30.180 --> 01:03:31.820
No, what's that?

1088
01:03:33.940 --> 01:03:35.820
Said, well, you know, scripture says

1089
01:03:35.820 --> 01:03:37.700
the sins of the father in the Old Testament

1090
01:03:37.700 --> 01:03:41.260
will be visited on the son up to the fourth generation.

1091
01:03:41.260 --> 01:03:44.060
But it also prophesies in Old Testament

1092
01:03:44.060 --> 01:03:49.060
that if the father is unrighteous and the son is righteous,

1093
01:03:49.140 --> 01:03:51.460
he won't have to pay for the sins of the father.

1094
01:03:51.460 --> 01:03:54.740
So if we think generational curses

1095
01:03:54.740 --> 01:03:59.140
have a right to be there, we empower them to be there.

1096
01:03:59.140 --> 01:04:01.380
They actually don't have a right to be there.

1097
01:04:02.540 --> 01:04:06.340
Because Christ came to redeem us from the curse of the law,

1098
01:04:06.340 --> 01:04:07.180
for it is written,

1099
01:04:07.180 --> 01:04:09.980
cursed is any man who hangs from the tree, right?

1100
01:04:09.980 --> 01:04:12.900
So he became the curse for us

1101
01:04:12.900 --> 01:04:15.960
so we didn't have to pay for generational curses.

1102
01:04:15.960 --> 01:04:19.240
But if I think, oh, well, grandpa had it,

1103
01:04:19.240 --> 01:04:21.600
grandma had it, dad had it,

1104
01:04:21.600 --> 01:04:23.880
it's just what our family has to deal with.

1105
01:04:23.880 --> 01:04:26.200
It's my cross I need to bear,

1106
01:04:26.200 --> 01:04:29.200
so I burden, it's just what we have to deal with.

1107
01:04:29.200 --> 01:04:32.040
No, you don't have to deal with that.

1108
01:04:32.040 --> 01:04:34.280
You don't actually have to.

1109
01:04:34.280 --> 01:04:38.280
Now, it's a familiar spirit at that point

1110
01:04:38.280 --> 01:04:39.680
when it comes to you and says,

1111
01:04:39.680 --> 01:04:43.680
hey, let's party like our family's partied, right?

1112
01:04:43.680 --> 01:04:46.920
Your family partnered with this for their whole life,

1113
01:04:46.920 --> 01:04:48.720
why don't we partner with this?

1114
01:04:48.720 --> 01:04:51.340
If we don't know we can say no to that,

1115
01:04:51.340 --> 01:04:54.480
then a familiar spirit becomes a generational spirit.

1116
01:04:56.360 --> 01:04:58.600
And I tell her about this and I said,

1117
01:04:58.600 --> 01:05:00.400
but you know, I would tell her.

1118
01:05:00.000 --> 01:05:03.640
our students that Jesus Christ came and he paid a price

1119
01:05:03.640 --> 01:05:05.360
so we don't have to have those.

1120
01:05:05.360 --> 01:05:08.200
Well, how do I get rid of the generational spirit?

1121
01:05:08.200 --> 01:05:10.920
I said, well, we just, I would tell our students,

1122
01:05:10.920 --> 01:05:13.100
you just break agreements with that lie.

1123
01:05:14.120 --> 01:05:18.280
That, see, you thought the best you could do

1124
01:05:18.280 --> 01:05:20.440
with that rat, the devouring spirit,

1125
01:05:20.440 --> 01:05:22.040
was to put braces on it.

1126
01:05:22.040 --> 01:05:23.600
I'll just try and control it.

1127
01:05:25.360 --> 01:05:27.320
I said, are you ever frustrated

1128
01:05:27.320 --> 01:05:29.780
because this has never happened to your sister?

1129
01:05:29.780 --> 01:05:33.020
She's like, yeah, it is not fair.

1130
01:05:33.020 --> 01:05:35.980
Yeah, because your sister never partnered with that spirit.

1131
01:05:37.060 --> 01:05:39.980
She actually chose not to do that.

1132
01:05:39.980 --> 01:05:41.400
So if you were one of my students,

1133
01:05:41.400 --> 01:05:45.100
I'd lead you through a prayer and we'd get rid of that

1134
01:05:45.100 --> 01:05:47.580
and then we'd ask God for the truth.

1135
01:05:47.580 --> 01:05:50.860
And we, and she's like, okay, let's do that.

1136
01:05:50.860 --> 01:05:53.820
I'm like, well, I would have them pray a prayer like this.

1137
01:05:53.820 --> 01:05:56.040
And if you feel comfortable with that,

1138
01:05:56.040 --> 01:05:57.940
why don't you just pray that prayer?

1139
01:05:57.980 --> 01:06:00.220
Well, this lady gets incredible breakthrough,

1140
01:06:01.060 --> 01:06:03.800
incredible breakthrough, all from a dream.

1141
01:06:05.820 --> 01:06:09.340
Dreams are one of the most evangelistic tools possible

1142
01:06:09.340 --> 01:06:11.420
to introduce people to the kingdom of God.

1143
01:06:11.420 --> 01:06:13.180
If you look at the patterns throughout scripture,

1144
01:06:13.180 --> 01:06:16.300
it happening all the time, throughout scriptures.

1145
01:06:16.300 --> 01:06:18.340
When Jesus rocks up on the scene,

1146
01:06:18.340 --> 01:06:20.900
when Jesus wants to do something incredible,

1147
01:06:20.900 --> 01:06:23.660
it's usually marked with dreams and visions,

1148
01:06:23.660 --> 01:06:25.460
some kind of prophetic happening.

1149
01:06:25.460 --> 01:06:26.940
And if we're not paying attention,

1150
01:06:26.940 --> 01:06:30.940
we miss out on the ability to win people to God.

1151
01:06:30.940 --> 01:06:33.940
And I'm not like, oh, I'm trying to win you to God.

1152
01:06:33.940 --> 01:06:36.460
Look at the way that Daniel functioned with Darius.

1153
01:06:36.460 --> 01:06:38.940
Oh, King, I wish you would live forever.

1154
01:06:38.940 --> 01:06:41.220
Hey, I'm gonna do all these things.

1155
01:06:41.220 --> 01:06:44.860
And it's always for the benefit of the other.

1156
01:06:44.860 --> 01:06:47.500
And every time the King would come back,

1157
01:06:47.500 --> 01:06:51.060
give Daniel gifts and worship the God of heaven.

1158
01:06:51.060 --> 01:06:53.700
Darius actually said, hey, everyone,

1159
01:06:53.700 --> 01:06:56.680
you should revere the God of Daniel.

1160
01:06:57.420 --> 01:06:58.600
This is the true God of heaven.

1161
01:06:58.600 --> 01:07:00.800
This is important, pay attention.

1162
01:07:01.840 --> 01:07:04.960
This is amazing, all from a dream.

1163
01:07:04.960 --> 01:07:06.880
Here's what I find about dreams

1164
01:07:06.880 --> 01:07:08.760
that are vitally important to us,

1165
01:07:08.760 --> 01:07:12.280
is dreams get behind people's defenses.

1166
01:07:15.480 --> 01:07:19.440
A prophetic word, it originates from God, yes,

1167
01:07:19.440 --> 01:07:22.360
but I am the mediator in between,

1168
01:07:22.360 --> 01:07:24.640
it comes through me to another person.

1169
01:07:24.800 --> 01:07:29.800
And especially in non-believers or pre-believers,

1170
01:07:29.920 --> 01:07:34.920
there can be a certain level of suspicion of that source.

1171
01:07:35.120 --> 01:07:38.760
But when they received it themselves, the revelation,

1172
01:07:38.760 --> 01:07:40.520
it does something inside you.

1173
01:07:40.520 --> 01:07:43.560
And science says this, science says your brain

1174
01:07:43.560 --> 01:07:46.840
doesn't know the difference between a dream and real life.

1175
01:07:46.840 --> 01:07:49.880
The same chemicals are released in your brain

1176
01:07:49.880 --> 01:07:53.600
that actually get you so emotionally attached

1177
01:07:53.600 --> 01:07:55.000
sometimes to dreams.

1178
01:07:55.000 --> 01:07:58.040
It's like, I know this is important.

1179
01:07:58.040 --> 01:08:01.160
Nebuchadnezzar knew it was important.

1180
01:08:01.160 --> 01:08:03.080
This is important.

1181
01:08:03.080 --> 01:08:05.600
Pharaoh knew it was important.

1182
01:08:06.520 --> 01:08:10.480
And because of that, when the right interpretation came,

1183
01:08:10.480 --> 01:08:12.000
they weren't gonna argue it.

1184
01:08:12.000 --> 01:08:13.960
It was like, yeah, this is totally God.

1185
01:08:14.920 --> 01:08:19.840
It is such a powerful tool to introduce people to God.

1186
01:08:20.880 --> 01:08:21.939
Absolutely.

1187
01:08:22.939 --> 01:08:26.740
So I'm training myself through practice and repetition.

1188
01:08:26.740 --> 01:08:29.220
I'm doing this on a regular time.

1189
01:08:29.220 --> 01:08:34.220
And you know, what's amazing is we as prophets, this team,

1190
01:08:35.140 --> 01:08:39.620
we're actually being generous with the gifts,

1191
01:08:39.620 --> 01:08:43.500
and the gifts of the Holy Spirit and the gifts of Christ

1192
01:08:43.500 --> 01:08:45.380
that are on our life.

1193
01:08:45.380 --> 01:08:48.180
And we're being generous and we've practiced them.

1194
01:08:48.180 --> 01:08:49.580
And there is not just,

1195
01:08:49.580 --> 01:08:51.460
you're not just getting knowledge here,

1196
01:08:51.979 --> 01:08:53.100
you're getting true wisdom.

1197
01:08:53.100 --> 01:08:56.220
Wisdom is knowledge and the ability to apply it.

1198
01:08:56.220 --> 01:09:00.979
See, we're not looking for prophets who have knowledge.

1199
01:09:00.979 --> 01:09:03.420
We're looking for reformer prophets.

1200
01:09:03.420 --> 01:09:07.439
We need knowledge and the ability to apply that knowledge,

1201
01:09:07.439 --> 01:09:08.740
that information.

1202
01:09:08.740 --> 01:09:12.120
And so there is an impartation that's happening

1203
01:09:12.120 --> 01:09:14.580
because we've practiced something over time

1204
01:09:14.580 --> 01:09:16.979
and it cracks something open to you,

1205
01:09:16.979 --> 01:09:20.700
just like in 2 Kings 6, verse 17.

1206
01:09:20.700 --> 01:09:22.859
Elisha prays,

1207
01:09:22.859 --> 01:09:27.859
open the eyes of my servant so that he may see.

1208
01:09:27.880 --> 01:09:30.340
Then the Lord opens the servant's eyes.

1209
01:09:30.340 --> 01:09:33.300
He looked and he saw that the horses and chariots

1210
01:09:33.300 --> 01:09:34.779
around there, it was filled.

1211
01:09:34.779 --> 01:09:37.899
And there was more for them than against them.

1212
01:09:40.740 --> 01:09:42.779
It may look like you're surrounded,

1213
01:09:45.500 --> 01:09:46.979
but I'm surrounded by him.

1214
01:09:48.100 --> 01:09:50.000
That's what that song's talking about.

1215
01:09:51.020 --> 01:09:52.859
And there is something that happens

1216
01:09:52.859 --> 01:09:57.580
when prophets come together and release sight.

1217
01:09:58.700 --> 01:10:00.140
We release an anointing.

1218
01:10:00.000 --> 01:10:03.620
for you to see realms, step into realms, open up realms

1219
01:10:03.620 --> 01:10:07.100
that you've never been maybe familiar with.

1220
01:10:07.100 --> 01:10:09.300
That's why I love the languages of God,

1221
01:10:09.300 --> 01:10:12.940
all the myriad of the ways that He speaks.

1222
01:10:14.220 --> 01:10:16.780
And now, if I'm a good interpreter,

1223
01:10:16.780 --> 01:10:19.900
I'm able to translate those languages.

1224
01:10:19.900 --> 01:10:21.500
What's God really saying?

1225
01:10:21.500 --> 01:10:23.100
What's He saying in creation?

1226
01:10:23.100 --> 01:10:25.140
He's saying, check me out.

1227
01:10:26.300 --> 01:10:28.540
All of me is in this.

1228
01:10:28.580 --> 01:10:31.620
All of me is in the person in front of you.

1229
01:10:31.620 --> 01:10:33.020
Do you see me?

1230
01:10:33.020 --> 01:10:34.100
You don't see me?

1231
01:10:34.100 --> 01:10:35.100
Keep looking.

1232
01:10:36.380 --> 01:10:37.460
Go further.

1233
01:10:39.400 --> 01:10:41.260
I'm a little excited, sorry.

1234
01:10:46.060 --> 01:10:50.460
Let me speak on a few practicals of interpretation

1235
01:10:50.460 --> 01:10:52.860
that we apply to dream interpretation

1236
01:10:52.860 --> 01:10:55.300
that are vital to all of us.

1237
01:10:55.300 --> 01:10:58.340
And if you get really good at that, you get skilled there,

1238
01:10:58.340 --> 01:11:01.460
then interpretation trickles into all the other areas.

1239
01:11:01.460 --> 01:11:02.720
This is what Lindsay does

1240
01:11:02.720 --> 01:11:05.000
with the prophetic reports all the time.

1241
01:11:05.000 --> 01:11:06.600
They compile all this stuff

1242
01:11:06.600 --> 01:11:08.780
and they use the gift of interpretation

1243
01:11:09.660 --> 01:11:13.620
to actually see strategies, see patterns and trends,

1244
01:11:13.620 --> 01:11:17.500
see the overarching language of God, not just a word,

1245
01:11:17.500 --> 01:11:22.500
but a whole paragraph, a whole phrase of what God's saying.

1246
01:11:22.660 --> 01:11:24.020
We're not just looking for a word,

1247
01:11:24.020 --> 01:11:25.540
we're looking for what God is doing.

1248
01:11:25.620 --> 01:11:28.340
And we start doing connect the dots prophetic

1249
01:11:28.340 --> 01:11:30.620
and we start doing it, it's amazing.

1250
01:11:30.620 --> 01:11:35.340
There's four main sources of dreams.

1251
01:11:36.840 --> 01:11:38.660
Four main sources of dreams.

1252
01:11:38.660 --> 01:11:42.260
Those four main, now, remember we're triune beings, right?

1253
01:11:42.260 --> 01:11:44.640
We're body, soul and spirit.

1254
01:11:45.740 --> 01:11:47.780
Anyone, Chris agrees?

1255
01:11:47.780 --> 01:11:50.340
Good, he reads the Bible.

1256
01:11:50.340 --> 01:11:53.660
Yeah, we're made in the image of God.

1257
01:11:53.660 --> 01:11:54.860
We are triune beings.

1258
01:11:55.180 --> 01:11:57.180
We are body, soul and spirit.

1259
01:11:57.180 --> 01:11:59.220
And so as triune beings,

1260
01:11:59.220 --> 01:12:02.900
we receive information in those three realms.

1261
01:12:02.900 --> 01:12:04.980
But Ben, you said there's four.

1262
01:12:04.980 --> 01:12:08.660
Yeah, there's body dreams, soul-based dreams

1263
01:12:08.660 --> 01:12:10.180
and then there's spiritual dreams.

1264
01:12:10.180 --> 01:12:12.100
And spiritual dreams have two components.

1265
01:12:12.100 --> 01:12:15.300
There's the kingdom realm and the demonic realm.

1266
01:12:15.300 --> 01:12:18.420
So there's God dreams and demonic dreams.

1267
01:12:18.420 --> 01:12:21.860
Now, here's what a lot of people try and do.

1268
01:12:21.860 --> 01:12:25.140
Okay, I wanna, oh, that was a God dream.

1269
01:12:25.140 --> 01:12:27.360
Oh, that was a demonic dream.

1270
01:12:27.360 --> 01:12:28.540
Oh, that was a body dream.

1271
01:12:28.540 --> 01:12:30.820
Oh, that's just soul-based dream.

1272
01:12:30.820 --> 01:12:34.320
No, many times we're receiving information

1273
01:12:34.320 --> 01:12:39.320
on all of those levels in one dream, in one dream.

1274
01:12:39.780 --> 01:12:42.620
My daughters come running in the room in the morning

1275
01:12:42.620 --> 01:12:44.180
because we've actually created

1276
01:12:44.180 --> 01:12:46.340
a regular thing around interpretation

1277
01:12:46.340 --> 01:12:49.460
and the wisdom on my children is very high

1278
01:12:49.460 --> 01:12:52.140
because they've been interpreters from childhood.

1279
01:12:54.100 --> 01:12:56.580
We prayed over their dreams and then we woke up

1280
01:12:56.580 --> 01:12:58.760
and I never interpreted their dreams.

1281
01:12:58.760 --> 01:13:02.980
I asked questions so that they could learn

1282
01:13:02.980 --> 01:13:05.080
the language of interpretation.

1283
01:13:06.740 --> 01:13:07.580
This is vital.

1284
01:13:07.580 --> 01:13:10.460
And so my daughters will run in the room like,

1285
01:13:10.460 --> 01:13:11.940
Dad, I had a dream last night.

1286
01:13:11.940 --> 01:13:12.820
I had a God dream.

1287
01:13:12.820 --> 01:13:14.780
Well, that part was soul-based.

1288
01:13:15.660 --> 01:13:18.100
That over here, that was just from my body

1289
01:13:18.100 --> 01:13:20.660
because remember, I stubbed my toe the other day.

1290
01:13:21.620 --> 01:13:23.100
They are aware.

1291
01:13:25.380 --> 01:13:26.940
Can I say this?

1292
01:13:26.940 --> 01:13:27.900
I'm gonna say it.

1293
01:13:28.780 --> 01:13:30.700
Nevermind, I'm not asking your permission.

1294
01:13:30.700 --> 01:13:32.100
I'm gonna say something.

1295
01:13:33.420 --> 01:13:35.260
That's a generality, I know that.

1296
01:13:37.460 --> 01:13:39.100
Sometimes prophets

1297
01:13:42.740 --> 01:13:46.620
are the most unaware group of people in the room.

1298
01:13:48.440 --> 01:13:50.340
And they think they're the most aware.

1299
01:13:52.460 --> 01:13:54.500
Being aware of only one realm

1300
01:13:56.100 --> 01:13:59.480
is incongruent with the way God created us.

1301
01:14:05.660 --> 01:14:10.660
I wanna be healthy body, soul, and spirit all the way.

1302
01:14:11.980 --> 01:14:16.500
And when we are, we become the most stabilizing force

1303
01:14:16.500 --> 01:14:19.600
for the church and for the kingdom of God.

1304
01:14:21.480 --> 01:14:24.580
But for a long time, we've been known as unstable.

1305
01:14:26.760 --> 01:14:28.460
Prophets don't show up on time.

1306
01:14:29.500 --> 01:14:33.380
Well, I was in the third heaven fighting

1307
01:14:33.380 --> 01:14:35.180
and it was awesome.

1308
01:14:35.180 --> 01:14:37.720
I got a message from God and I went and fought this angel

1309
01:14:37.720 --> 01:14:38.800
in the second heaven.

1310
01:14:38.800 --> 01:14:42.500
And then it was 21 minutes and I fought

1311
01:14:42.500 --> 01:14:44.060
and so sorry, I'm late.

1312
01:14:44.060 --> 01:14:44.900
I'm like.

1313
01:14:46.820 --> 01:14:49.980
So why didn't you leave 21 minutes earlier?

1314
01:14:49.980 --> 01:14:51.640
Because if you know the future.

1315
01:15:00.000 --> 01:15:03.800
We tell our teams, hey, awesome, you can get a word

1316
01:15:03.800 --> 01:15:06.280
from God, can you show up on time?

1317
01:15:08.360 --> 01:15:11.360
You can get a word from God, how do you treat your roommate?

1318
01:15:12.720 --> 01:15:17.320
They will know I am his disciple by my powerful words.

1319
01:15:17.320 --> 01:15:22.320
Now they know we're his disciple by our love for one another.

1320
01:15:32.000 --> 01:15:33.760
If you want people to listen to your words,

1321
01:15:33.760 --> 01:15:35.320
increase in your love.

1322
01:15:35.320 --> 01:15:37.340
If you wanna increase in interpretation,

1323
01:15:37.340 --> 01:15:38.580
increase in your love.

1324
01:15:40.480 --> 01:15:42.920
That's the filter everything should go through.

1325
01:15:43.640 --> 01:15:48.640
So four main sources, body, soul, and spirit.

1326
01:15:52.360 --> 01:15:55.880
And then there's four lenses of interpretation

1327
01:15:55.880 --> 01:15:58.440
when it comes to at least dream interpretation

1328
01:15:58.440 --> 01:16:00.740
and I see the crossover.

1329
01:16:01.600 --> 01:16:03.120
Number one, Holy Spirit, right?

1330
01:16:03.120 --> 01:16:06.840
Does not all interpretation belong to God?

1331
01:16:06.840 --> 01:16:10.520
There is a God in heaven, the revealer of all mysteries.

1332
01:16:10.520 --> 01:16:14.480
Like the interpretation and wisdom belongs to God.

1333
01:16:14.480 --> 01:16:17.200
So number one filter, Holy Spirit.

1334
01:16:17.200 --> 01:16:19.280
I've got to have Holy Spirit as part

1335
01:16:19.280 --> 01:16:21.040
of that interpreting filter

1336
01:16:21.040 --> 01:16:23.960
and it is the number one primary one.

1337
01:16:23.960 --> 01:16:27.680
Number two, what is the emotion of the dream,

1338
01:16:27.680 --> 01:16:30.720
the encounter, even the prophetic word?

1339
01:16:30.720 --> 01:16:35.220
I see too many prophets matching their own particular style

1340
01:16:35.220 --> 01:16:39.560
of emotion and they give the same word all the time.

1341
01:16:39.560 --> 01:16:42.360
Some of you are, oh, I'm just a weeping prophet.

1342
01:16:44.080 --> 01:16:48.580
Oh, okay, it's okay, it's not wrong.

1343
01:16:48.580 --> 01:16:51.600
God loves your flavor, he loves your style,

1344
01:16:51.600 --> 01:16:54.680
but sometimes that can be a hindrance

1345
01:16:54.680 --> 01:16:56.600
to what God's actually saying

1346
01:16:56.600 --> 01:16:59.160
because I'm so distracted by your manifestation,

1347
01:16:59.160 --> 01:17:00.920
I can't actually hear your words.

1348
01:17:04.560 --> 01:17:07.840
If there is emotion in the word,

1349
01:17:07.840 --> 01:17:09.840
then part of delivering the word

1350
01:17:09.840 --> 01:17:11.720
is to match the emotion of God.

1351
01:17:13.680 --> 01:17:18.680
I wanna match his tone, I wanna match what God's doing,

1352
01:17:18.680 --> 01:17:19.800
I wanna match his heart.

1353
01:17:19.800 --> 01:17:22.540
That's why knowing him and being aware,

1354
01:17:22.540 --> 01:17:24.920
I don't just give words all the time.

1355
01:17:25.800 --> 01:17:26.920
This is so important.

1356
01:17:26.920 --> 01:17:31.520
So emotion is a big lens that we use for interpretation.

1357
01:17:31.520 --> 01:17:33.840
Let's just do a practice.

1358
01:17:34.680 --> 01:17:37.080
Color green.

1359
01:17:37.080 --> 01:17:39.160
If there's a negative emotion,

1360
01:17:39.160 --> 01:17:41.180
what could the color green mean?

1361
01:17:42.880 --> 01:17:44.280
Hospital?

1362
01:17:44.280 --> 01:17:46.320
Why do you say hospital, Haley Braun?

1363
01:17:51.240 --> 01:17:54.360
Okay, so this is cool

1364
01:17:54.360 --> 01:17:57.000
because this is another lens of interpretation.

1365
01:17:57.000 --> 01:18:00.640
So the next two lenses of interpretation

1366
01:18:00.640 --> 01:18:05.640
are the dreamer or the receivers' own life experience

1367
01:18:06.800 --> 01:18:08.920
and cultural experience.

1368
01:18:08.920 --> 01:18:11.160
And if we don't take those into account,

1369
01:18:11.160 --> 01:18:14.480
if we're just like, oh, green means this every time,

1370
01:18:14.480 --> 01:18:16.120
Lord of the dance.

1371
01:18:16.120 --> 01:18:17.240
No, it doesn't.

1372
01:18:17.240 --> 01:18:22.240
That's not how it works.

1373
01:18:22.400 --> 01:18:25.000
That's not how interpretation works.

1374
01:18:26.440 --> 01:18:30.560
So the receivers, their own life experience,

1375
01:18:31.400 --> 01:18:33.680
because God speaks the receiver's language.

1376
01:18:33.680 --> 01:18:36.960
He knows your experience and he's gonna speak in ways

1377
01:18:36.960 --> 01:18:39.180
that you would more readily understand.

1378
01:18:39.180 --> 01:18:42.640
So my first check is, hey, what does that mean to you?

1379
01:18:42.640 --> 01:18:43.960
People come to me all the time.

1380
01:18:43.960 --> 01:18:45.520
Hey, interpret my dream,

1381
01:18:45.520 --> 01:18:48.680
but I'm not gonna tell you anything I've gotten.

1382
01:18:48.680 --> 01:18:50.280
I'm like, yeah, I don't do that.

1383
01:18:51.400 --> 01:18:53.480
I'm sorry, I don't do that.

1384
01:18:53.480 --> 01:18:54.720
Well, why not?

1385
01:18:54.720 --> 01:18:56.660
I wanna see if yours is accurate.

1386
01:18:56.660 --> 01:18:58.720
No, you wanna see if yours is accurate.

1387
01:19:00.560 --> 01:19:04.840
You're afraid that what you got might potentially be wrong

1388
01:19:04.840 --> 01:19:08.920
and you're hoping that what I say lines up with your hopes,

1389
01:19:08.920 --> 01:19:12.800
which may mean it's soul-based, may not,

1390
01:19:12.800 --> 01:19:14.800
but don't do that.

1391
01:19:14.800 --> 01:19:15.640
Why?

1392
01:19:15.640 --> 01:19:19.360
Because I'm gonna go, God gave you it first.

1393
01:19:19.360 --> 01:19:21.840
And I trust the wisdom on your life.

1394
01:19:21.840 --> 01:19:23.280
I trust those intuition.

1395
01:19:23.280 --> 01:19:26.280
I'm looking for the Holy Spirit aha moments in that

1396
01:19:26.280 --> 01:19:27.840
to get that accurately.

1397
01:19:27.840 --> 01:19:30.160
If it doesn't mean anything to you,

1398
01:19:30.720 --> 01:19:34.440
then I get to bring the interpreter's life experience,

1399
01:19:34.440 --> 01:19:38.800
the interpreter's own cultural experience.

1400
01:19:38.800 --> 01:19:42.000
So Haley said something that she grew up with

1401
01:19:42.000 --> 01:19:46.320
and is recognized, okay, that's her interpretation.

1402
01:19:46.320 --> 01:19:47.160
What else?

1403
01:19:47.160 --> 01:19:49.880
On a negative with the color green.

1404
01:19:51.440 --> 01:19:55.880
Okay, envy, because we say this thing green with envy,

1405
01:19:55.880 --> 01:19:58.840
at least in the United States of America.

1406
01:19:58.840 --> 01:20:00.400
What about, could it?

1407
01:20:00.000 --> 01:20:01.120
be anger?

1408
01:20:02.560 --> 01:20:03.400
I don't know.

1409
01:20:03.400 --> 01:20:04.720
The Hulk, that's right.

1410
01:20:04.720 --> 01:20:06.840
Okay, that's cultural.

1411
01:20:06.840 --> 01:20:08.740
Not everyone has seen the movie Hulk,

1412
01:20:08.740 --> 01:20:10.560
but I've seen the movie Hulk,

1413
01:20:10.560 --> 01:20:13.320
and so some, or maybe it be the Grinch.

1414
01:20:15.200 --> 01:20:16.720
Or maybe it's gangrene.

1415
01:20:18.060 --> 01:20:20.560
Maybe it's jealousy, of course.

1416
01:20:20.560 --> 01:20:22.240
But what if it's positive?

1417
01:20:25.000 --> 01:20:26.400
Life, prosperity.

1418
01:20:26.400 --> 01:20:27.960
Why do you say prosperity?

1419
01:20:28.200 --> 01:20:29.120
Green money.

1420
01:20:29.120 --> 01:20:29.960
Green money.

1421
01:20:29.960 --> 01:20:31.440
Okay, that's cultural.

1422
01:20:32.600 --> 01:20:35.040
Because not everyone's money is green.

1423
01:20:36.260 --> 01:20:37.100
Right?

1424
01:20:37.100 --> 01:20:41.320
So this is why I want to challenge you.

1425
01:20:41.320 --> 01:20:44.340
Great, I'm great with you having your good friend Google

1426
01:20:44.340 --> 01:20:46.400
to look up the meaning of something.

1427
01:20:46.400 --> 01:20:49.400
I'm great with you having biblical encyclopedias

1428
01:20:49.400 --> 01:20:50.880
of signs and symbols.

1429
01:20:50.880 --> 01:20:53.480
I'm great with you having all of the dream books

1430
01:20:53.480 --> 01:20:54.720
that are out there,

1431
01:20:54.720 --> 01:20:56.760
but mine that's coming out soon

1432
01:20:56.760 --> 01:21:00.820
is actually doesn't have this is what it means.

1433
01:21:00.820 --> 01:21:02.920
We have a friend who just got so excited

1434
01:21:02.920 --> 01:21:05.520
about dream interpretation because I do it all the time.

1435
01:21:05.520 --> 01:21:08.440
She went out and bought a book because mine's not out yet,

1436
01:21:08.440 --> 01:21:11.300
and she's like, oh, I know what this means.

1437
01:21:11.300 --> 01:21:12.360
Let's interpret your dreams.

1438
01:21:12.360 --> 01:21:14.460
Well, let me look it up, okay?

1439
01:21:14.460 --> 01:21:16.080
Socks mean this.

1440
01:21:16.080 --> 01:21:17.520
Feet mean this.

1441
01:21:17.520 --> 01:21:18.880
This is what that means.

1442
01:21:18.880 --> 01:21:21.280
There's no relationship with God there.

1443
01:21:21.800 --> 01:21:22.640
Amen.

1444
01:21:22.640 --> 01:21:23.480
Amen.

1445
01:21:23.480 --> 01:21:24.300
Amen.

1446
01:21:24.300 --> 01:21:25.140
Amen.

1447
01:21:25.140 --> 01:21:25.980
Amen.

1448
01:21:25.980 --> 01:21:26.800
Amen.

1449
01:21:26.800 --> 01:21:29.320
There's no honoring the emotion of the dream.

1450
01:21:29.320 --> 01:21:31.640
It's just means this every time.

1451
01:21:33.000 --> 01:21:35.680
That is not interpretation.

1452
01:21:37.640 --> 01:21:41.200
It's trying to superimpose information on a situation.

1453
01:21:42.400 --> 01:21:45.260
And we can lead so many people astray.

1454
01:21:46.520 --> 01:21:50.320
And I want to be able to accurately do this.

1455
01:21:50.320 --> 01:21:52.640
And a lot of times, well,

1456
01:21:52.640 --> 01:21:55.880
I get this too in dream interpretation.

1457
01:21:55.880 --> 01:21:59.540
Many times, well, that doesn't resonate with my spirit.

1458
01:22:02.760 --> 01:22:05.820
What they're saying is, oh, that ruffles my feathers.

1459
01:22:08.200 --> 01:22:11.380
What that says is I don't like your interpretation.

1460
01:22:12.460 --> 01:22:14.120
That is confronting me.

1461
01:22:14.120 --> 01:22:15.360
And God would never do that

1462
01:22:15.360 --> 01:22:17.200
because I don't feel peace with that.

1463
01:22:17.200 --> 01:22:18.040
No.

1464
01:22:19.600 --> 01:22:21.220
No, you feel confrontation.

1465
01:22:22.740 --> 01:22:24.540
There's no condemnation in it.

1466
01:22:25.520 --> 01:22:30.520
Because even if your dream or the encounter exposes an issue,

1467
01:22:33.400 --> 01:22:35.160
okay, this exposes an issue.

1468
01:22:35.160 --> 01:22:37.120
Okay, but God, what did you release?

1469
01:22:38.000 --> 01:22:41.160
God, what am I supposed to be partnering with?

1470
01:22:41.160 --> 01:22:42.560
This is important.

1471
01:22:42.560 --> 01:22:45.120
Because I, and what's crazy is God,

1472
01:22:45.120 --> 01:22:47.440
if you'll steward this well in your life,

1473
01:22:47.440 --> 01:22:50.200
God will start giving you dreams of people

1474
01:22:50.200 --> 01:22:51.200
before you meet them.

1475
01:22:53.440 --> 01:22:55.200
Because He can trust you with them.

1476
01:22:56.080 --> 01:22:58.120
I've had it happen multiple times

1477
01:22:58.120 --> 01:22:59.920
where I meet a person in a dream

1478
01:22:59.920 --> 01:23:02.200
and then I meet the person in real life.

1479
01:23:02.200 --> 01:23:05.280
And I know all kinds of prophetic details about their life.

1480
01:23:05.280 --> 01:23:08.600
I know words of knowledge are released in the dream

1481
01:23:08.600 --> 01:23:10.240
and I get information about that.

1482
01:23:10.240 --> 01:23:13.440
And then I get information about their future as well.

1483
01:23:14.400 --> 01:23:15.880
It's beautiful.

1484
01:23:15.880 --> 01:23:18.760
But there is a level of stewardship on our dreams

1485
01:23:18.760 --> 01:23:23.400
that is on interpretation that is so vital and so important.

1486
01:23:23.400 --> 01:23:24.720
Let me give you an example of it.

1487
01:23:24.720 --> 01:23:26.040
Can I give you an example?

1488
01:23:29.320 --> 01:23:31.480
I was in Austria.

1489
01:23:31.480 --> 01:23:36.480
This is probably 12 or 13 years ago doing a conference.

1490
01:23:37.560 --> 01:23:41.120
And I was asleep and I went into a dream.

1491
01:23:41.120 --> 01:23:45.880
And in the dream, I'm in this great like Austrian meadow.

1492
01:23:45.880 --> 01:23:46.720
It's beautiful.

1493
01:23:46.720 --> 01:23:48.720
And it's set up for this giant banquet.

1494
01:23:48.720 --> 01:23:52.120
And over here, someone's setting up a piano for worship.

1495
01:23:52.120 --> 01:23:54.680
And then up at the top of the field

1496
01:23:54.680 --> 01:23:57.360
was a group of Japanese pastors.

1497
01:23:57.360 --> 01:24:00.760
And how many are from Japan here?

1498
01:24:00.760 --> 01:24:03.720
I met a couple of Japanese pastors the other day

1499
01:24:03.720 --> 01:24:07.400
that were in at least for a day, maybe some online.

1500
01:24:07.400 --> 01:24:09.760
But we're over here, someone's pointing.

1501
01:24:09.760 --> 01:24:11.760
Okay, right here, come on.

1502
01:24:11.760 --> 01:24:12.920
God bless Japan.

1503
01:24:13.880 --> 01:24:15.720
And there's a group of Japanese pastors

1504
01:24:15.720 --> 01:24:17.040
at the top of the hill.

1505
01:24:17.040 --> 01:24:18.400
And someone comes down and says,

1506
01:24:18.400 --> 01:24:20.160
Ben, they wanna meet you.

1507
01:24:20.160 --> 01:24:22.720
And so I walk up the hill to meet these pastors.

1508
01:24:22.720 --> 01:24:26.960
And this head pastor comes up to me, Japanese pastor.

1509
01:24:26.960 --> 01:24:30.600
And he says, hi, my name's C. Peter Wagner.

1510
01:24:33.320 --> 01:24:36.440
Now, I haven't studied C. Peter Wagner

1511
01:24:36.440 --> 01:24:39.720
at the time very much, but I knew he wasn't Japanese.

1512
01:24:40.680 --> 01:24:43.320
So this is like, dreams are weird like that, right?

1513
01:24:43.320 --> 01:24:48.160
And so C. Peter Wagner, and he looks at me,

1514
01:24:48.160 --> 01:24:51.720
introduces himself, and he hugs me.

1515
01:24:51.720 --> 01:24:55.000
And when he gives me a hug, it felt like my father.

1516
01:25:00.000 --> 01:25:02.980
Same scruff of my father's beard on his face,

1517
01:25:02.980 --> 01:25:04.120
like on my face.

1518
01:25:04.120 --> 01:25:09.120
And I felt so like, you know that embrace of a good father?

1519
01:25:09.680 --> 01:25:10.520
Some of you don't,

1520
01:25:10.520 --> 01:25:15.520
but it's like you have a good father, God.

1521
01:25:15.600 --> 01:25:18.020
And that embrace is so beautiful.

1522
01:25:18.020 --> 01:25:19.160
It's so protective.

1523
01:25:19.160 --> 01:25:22.760
It's so identity releasing.

1524
01:25:22.760 --> 01:25:24.320
It's the,

1525
01:25:26.940 --> 01:25:28.800
dad, I felt that.

1526
01:25:29.080 --> 01:25:31.120
And then he pulls away and looks at me

1527
01:25:31.120 --> 01:25:33.320
and starts singing a nursery rhyme.

1528
01:25:36.000 --> 01:25:38.820
And it gets to that point, ashes, ashes, we all fall down.

1529
01:25:38.820 --> 01:25:42.640
And he falls on the ground laughing hysterically.

1530
01:25:42.640 --> 01:25:45.760
And I look at him and I fall on the ground with him

1531
01:25:45.760 --> 01:25:47.400
and start laughing with him.

1532
01:25:47.400 --> 01:25:49.200
And I wake up.

1533
01:25:49.200 --> 01:25:52.280
I'm like, what in the wide, wide world of sports

1534
01:25:52.280 --> 01:25:54.740
is going on, right?

1535
01:25:54.740 --> 01:25:56.160
What is going on here?

1536
01:25:56.160 --> 01:25:57.600
This is crazy.

1537
01:25:58.600 --> 01:26:01.900
And so I'm going through this and I said,

1538
01:26:01.900 --> 01:26:05.160
God, what does C. Peter Wagner have to do with Japan?

1539
01:26:05.160 --> 01:26:06.000
I don't know.

1540
01:26:06.000 --> 01:26:08.800
So I get on my good friend Google and I search it up.

1541
01:26:08.800 --> 01:26:11.680
And in the late eighties,

1542
01:26:11.680 --> 01:26:14.860
C. Peter Wagner released a prophetic word

1543
01:26:14.860 --> 01:26:18.320
that 10 million souls would be saved in the nineties

1544
01:26:18.320 --> 01:26:19.160
in Japan.

1545
01:26:20.060 --> 01:26:21.120
It never happened.

1546
01:26:22.860 --> 01:26:26.620
It was one of C. Peter Wagner's huge frustrations

1547
01:26:26.620 --> 01:26:30.020
in his life, because I've talked to friends of his.

1548
01:26:30.860 --> 01:26:33.580
Well, I said, God, why are you showing me this?

1549
01:26:33.580 --> 01:26:35.440
He said, it was a right word.

1550
01:26:37.380 --> 01:26:39.500
I wanted that to happen.

1551
01:26:39.500 --> 01:26:43.220
But people saw him as a teacher, not as a prophet.

1552
01:26:43.220 --> 01:26:45.200
So they sat back and said, we'll see.

1553
01:26:47.420 --> 01:26:50.620
Rather than partnering with the word through intercession,

1554
01:26:51.620 --> 01:26:55.460
they never stewarded that, but it's still in my heart.

1555
01:26:55.460 --> 01:26:57.260
Ben, will you steward that?

1556
01:26:59.660 --> 01:27:02.660
So I went to intercession because I, listen,

1557
01:27:02.660 --> 01:27:04.920
I had no invites to Japan.

1558
01:27:07.340 --> 01:27:10.380
Few years of prayer and intercession over Japan

1559
01:27:10.380 --> 01:27:11.820
and 10 million soul harvest.

1560
01:27:11.820 --> 01:27:16.820
I get invited to Korea and I'm in Korea and guess what?

1561
01:27:18.180 --> 01:27:22.340
At the C. Peter Wagner Learning Institute,

1562
01:27:22.340 --> 01:27:25.220
doing a training in the prophetic.

1563
01:27:25.980 --> 01:27:28.380
And I share it with a bunch of crazy Koreans.

1564
01:27:29.380 --> 01:27:33.420
And I say, hey, let's pray into this, this revival.

1565
01:27:33.420 --> 01:27:36.340
And if you know the history of Korea and Japan,

1566
01:27:36.340 --> 01:27:38.560
there's not a great history there,

1567
01:27:40.260 --> 01:27:42.140
but you reap whatever you sow.

1568
01:27:42.140 --> 01:27:43.420
And I said to the Koreans,

1569
01:27:43.420 --> 01:27:45.900
how many of you want revival in your nation?

1570
01:27:45.900 --> 01:27:48.820
And all of them are screaming, yelling, I want that.

1571
01:27:48.820 --> 01:27:50.940
And I said, okay, well, we're going to pray for it

1572
01:27:50.940 --> 01:27:53.400
for another nation because you reap what you sow.

1573
01:27:53.720 --> 01:27:57.720
Good measure, press down, shaken together, running over.

1574
01:27:57.720 --> 01:28:00.120
Okay, so we begin to pray.

1575
01:28:00.120 --> 01:28:02.640
And I thought I knew what intercession was.

1576
01:28:02.640 --> 01:28:04.580
I don't, I don't.

1577
01:28:05.640 --> 01:28:09.160
Koreans are absolutely crazy.

1578
01:28:10.280 --> 01:28:13.080
Like they went to a whole nother level.

1579
01:28:13.080 --> 01:28:13.920
I thought we were going to pray

1580
01:28:13.920 --> 01:28:15.840
for two or three minutes over Japan.

1581
01:28:15.840 --> 01:28:19.360
It turned into like an hour and a half crazy prayer service.

1582
01:28:19.360 --> 01:28:20.760
Kim Koch was there.

1583
01:28:20.760 --> 01:28:23.120
Naomi, I think was there.

1584
01:28:23.800 --> 01:28:25.520
It was like amazing.

1585
01:28:25.520 --> 01:28:27.600
And so we pray into it.

1586
01:28:27.600 --> 01:28:30.200
So I'm still not in Japan.

1587
01:28:32.160 --> 01:28:35.640
Fast forward three years after that,

1588
01:28:35.640 --> 01:28:38.880
going and going multiple times and praying into Japan.

1589
01:28:38.880 --> 01:28:41.980
And now I'm inviting larger groups to pray into this.

1590
01:28:41.980 --> 01:28:43.760
This is stewardship.

1591
01:28:43.760 --> 01:28:45.480
This is reformation.

1592
01:28:45.480 --> 01:28:48.520
It takes a journey to get to this.

1593
01:28:48.520 --> 01:28:50.880
And so we're going after it.

1594
01:28:50.880 --> 01:28:52.680
And as we're going after it,

1595
01:28:53.240 --> 01:28:54.080
I'm like, okay, God.

1596
01:28:54.080 --> 01:28:57.160
And finally, three years later, I have another dream.

1597
01:28:57.160 --> 01:29:01.960
And in the dream, I meet a man in like this boardroom.

1598
01:29:01.960 --> 01:29:05.800
And he says, hi, I'm the prime minister of Japan.

1599
01:29:05.800 --> 01:29:07.300
Will you intercede for me?

1600
01:29:09.060 --> 01:29:10.400
I said, yeah.

1601
01:29:10.400 --> 01:29:12.080
And he took me into this boardroom

1602
01:29:12.080 --> 01:29:14.820
and all across the table in the boardroom

1603
01:29:14.820 --> 01:29:17.660
was all of these prophetic words from children.

1604
01:29:19.100 --> 01:29:21.800
Now I begin to realize that first dream

1605
01:29:21.840 --> 01:29:24.680
was all about the restoration of the hearts

1606
01:29:24.680 --> 01:29:26.400
of the fathers to the children

1607
01:29:26.400 --> 01:29:27.640
and the children to the fathers.

1608
01:29:27.640 --> 01:29:29.800
Remember the hug of the pastor.

1609
01:29:29.800 --> 01:29:32.720
Something was lost in the war

1610
01:29:34.280 --> 01:29:38.720
that a whole generation lost their fathers in Japan.

1611
01:29:38.720 --> 01:29:41.320
It was a fatherless generation due to war.

1612
01:29:42.220 --> 01:29:44.440
And God was restoring the hearts of the fathers

1613
01:29:44.440 --> 01:29:46.320
to the sons and sons of the father.

1614
01:29:46.320 --> 01:29:50.160
And that is a key to the revival in Japan.

1615
01:29:50.160 --> 01:29:52.240
So that's what we've been praying into,

1616
01:29:52.240 --> 01:29:53.840
the restoration of this.

1617
01:29:53.840 --> 01:29:56.480
And that's what happens when the prophets show up,

1618
01:29:56.480 --> 01:29:58.600
the restoration of a relationship.

1619
01:29:58.600 --> 01:30:00.000
So I'm in this boardroom.

1620
01:30:00.000 --> 01:30:01.280
And I wake up and I'm like,

1621
01:30:01.280 --> 01:30:04.120
I wonder what the prime minister of Japan looks like.

1622
01:30:04.120 --> 01:30:05.480
I've been praying for Japan.

1623
01:30:05.480 --> 01:30:07.040
I probably should know this.

1624
01:30:07.040 --> 01:30:10.480
So I look it up and the guy who showed up in my dream

1625
01:30:10.480 --> 01:30:13.500
was the prime minister at the time, Shinzo Abe,

1626
01:30:14.840 --> 01:30:16.600
who just was assassinated.

1627
01:30:17.920 --> 01:30:22.680
And I've been praying for this man specifically for years.

1628
01:30:22.680 --> 01:30:25.600
Who knows if God's not raising up prophets,

1629
01:30:25.600 --> 01:30:27.480
you in that secret place.

1630
01:30:27.480 --> 01:30:28.940
Maybe you're not on stage.

1631
01:30:28.980 --> 01:30:31.060
Maybe you're in your prayer closet

1632
01:30:31.060 --> 01:30:33.660
and someone's life depends on your prayers.

1633
01:30:35.540 --> 01:30:36.820
And we're at that place.

1634
01:30:36.820 --> 01:30:41.820
And some years after that dream with Shinzo Abe,

1635
01:30:42.660 --> 01:30:45.740
I now get an invitation to Japan.

1636
01:30:45.740 --> 01:30:48.700
And when we land in Japan, Kim, you were there.

1637
01:30:48.700 --> 01:30:51.060
When I landed in Japan, they said,

1638
01:30:51.060 --> 01:30:53.220
hey, could you go to a lunch?

1639
01:30:53.220 --> 01:30:55.460
We've got a bunch of people

1640
01:30:55.460 --> 01:30:58.280
who would be the equivalent of Congress

1641
01:30:58.280 --> 01:30:59.920
in the United States of America.

1642
01:30:59.920 --> 01:31:01.540
We've got a dozen of them.

1643
01:31:01.540 --> 01:31:04.000
We want you to pray and prophesy over them.

1644
01:31:04.000 --> 01:31:05.940
So I go and pray and prophesy over them.

1645
01:31:05.940 --> 01:31:08.160
It was a hundred year anniversary

1646
01:31:08.160 --> 01:31:10.400
of a revival that broke out in Japan.

1647
01:31:10.400 --> 01:31:13.560
We landed on the day of the hundred year anniversary.

1648
01:31:13.560 --> 01:31:17.760
Not just that, that same week was the inauguration

1649
01:31:17.760 --> 01:31:22.100
or coronation of the new emperor of Japan.

1650
01:31:22.100 --> 01:31:23.940
We are landing in that time.

1651
01:31:23.940 --> 01:31:26.200
It was such a powerful, amazing trip.

1652
01:31:26.200 --> 01:31:29.640
Now I'm getting the ability to influence that place.

1653
01:31:29.640 --> 01:31:30.480
Why?

1654
01:31:30.480 --> 01:31:34.360
Because I've got so many years of investment praying into

1655
01:31:34.360 --> 01:31:38.900
and my heart for a nation has come through me saying,

1656
01:31:38.900 --> 01:31:40.080
God, what's important to you,

1657
01:31:40.080 --> 01:31:43.080
I'll make important to you through prayer and intercession.

1658
01:31:44.140 --> 01:31:47.260
See, interpretation is really important for nations.

1659
01:31:48.900 --> 01:31:51.260
You may never actually get invited there,

1660
01:31:51.260 --> 01:31:54.320
but you may be shifting the nation through your prayer.

1661
01:31:54.320 --> 01:31:55.580
And I'll tell you this,

1662
01:31:57.600 --> 01:32:01.400
you can be an intercessor and not be a prophet,

1663
01:32:01.400 --> 01:32:05.640
but it is super, I have a concern that if you're a prophet

1664
01:32:05.640 --> 01:32:07.300
and you don't intercede,

1665
01:32:07.300 --> 01:32:09.800
you're not actually fully walking in your office.

1666
01:32:11.160 --> 01:32:15.360
We have to be intercessors because your words are powerful,

1667
01:32:15.360 --> 01:32:18.440
whether we're declaring them in public

1668
01:32:18.440 --> 01:32:21.000
or we're declaring them in heavenly realms

1669
01:32:21.000 --> 01:32:22.520
to principalities and powers.

1670
01:32:22.520 --> 01:32:25.440
We're establishing and it's vital and important.

1671
01:32:25.440 --> 01:32:27.120
Let me pray over you guys.

1672
01:32:27.120 --> 01:32:29.200
There's a bunch of things I wanted to get to,

1673
01:32:29.200 --> 01:32:32.240
but we got to a few of them.

1674
01:32:32.240 --> 01:32:33.320
Scratch and sniff.

1675
01:32:35.560 --> 01:32:37.000
There's more meals to come.

1676
01:32:37.920 --> 01:32:39.080
This is rich food.

1677
01:32:41.080 --> 01:32:42.480
Stand to your feet

1678
01:32:42.480 --> 01:32:45.280
because I'd rather you stretch a little bit too.

1679
01:32:48.120 --> 01:32:50.300
God, we wanna be so intimate with you

1680
01:32:50.300 --> 01:32:52.240
that we think like you.

1681
01:32:53.360 --> 01:32:58.360
God, that it's not this try thing, it's this be thing.

1682
01:32:58.600 --> 01:33:02.880
That we're such close friends of you,

1683
01:33:02.880 --> 01:33:05.200
we know what the master's doing.

1684
01:33:05.200 --> 01:33:08.160
And you share with us that information

1685
01:33:08.160 --> 01:33:10.880
and we know when to act and when not to act.

1686
01:33:10.880 --> 01:33:13.760
We know when to pray and when to declare.

1687
01:33:13.760 --> 01:33:15.920
God, we know when to partner with it

1688
01:33:15.920 --> 01:33:17.640
or how to partner with it.

1689
01:33:17.640 --> 01:33:19.760
You give us strategies.

1690
01:33:20.760 --> 01:33:24.120
God, I release an increase of God dreams,

1691
01:33:24.120 --> 01:33:27.800
an increase of the gift of interpretation.

1692
01:33:27.800 --> 01:33:30.800
Not just that, we need wisdom and discernment

1693
01:33:30.800 --> 01:33:32.800
coupled with interpretation.

1694
01:33:32.800 --> 01:33:35.920
We release that in the room as well.

1695
01:33:35.920 --> 01:33:38.480
And in this, as we are intimate with you,

1696
01:33:38.480 --> 01:33:40.640
we operate in all of these gifts

1697
01:33:40.640 --> 01:33:43.240
in a way that represents you well.

1698
01:33:43.240 --> 01:33:45.000
It doesn't just celebrate me.

1699
01:33:45.000 --> 01:33:47.320
Everyone sees the gifts on our life

1700
01:33:47.320 --> 01:33:49.360
and get jealous for the God.

1701
01:33:50.520 --> 01:33:53.640
Of our life and wants that same relationship.

1702
01:33:53.640 --> 01:33:56.480
But we're generous and we get to give this away.

1703
01:33:56.480 --> 01:33:59.640
We get to gift it to people all over the world.

1704
01:33:59.640 --> 01:34:02.640
And I pray that the wisdom that's being released

1705
01:34:02.640 --> 01:34:07.640
to kings and leaders, to rulers right now,

1706
01:34:07.840 --> 01:34:12.760
that God, you would place prophets, interpreters around them

1707
01:34:12.760 --> 01:34:15.080
that God, as we steward these gifts,

1708
01:34:15.080 --> 01:34:17.980
God, you found Joseph in a prison.

1709
01:34:18.900 --> 01:34:22.980
You found him and he went straight from the lowest place

1710
01:34:22.980 --> 01:34:25.900
to the highest place in a moment.

1711
01:34:25.900 --> 01:34:27.460
God, you can find us.

1712
01:34:27.460 --> 01:34:30.140
Let us be found being good stewards

1713
01:34:30.140 --> 01:34:32.660
of what you've imparted into our life

1714
01:34:32.660 --> 01:34:36.380
so that when the call comes, we are fully prepared,

1715
01:34:36.380 --> 01:34:40.540
we are fully equipped that we actually belong in that room.

1716
01:34:40.540 --> 01:34:43.300
We won't go to performance in that moment

1717
01:34:43.300 --> 01:34:46.540
because it's just part of our lifestyle.

1718
01:34:46.540 --> 01:34:49.700
We won't go to try and earn our place in that room.

1719
01:34:49.700 --> 01:34:53.740
We will go as a mouthpiece of the Lord God Almighty,

1720
01:34:53.740 --> 01:34:55.140
just like Jeremiah.

1721
01:34:55.140 --> 01:34:57.200
I have put my words in your mouth.

1722
01:34:58.200 --> 01:35:00.100
That your words would be in our mouth.

1723
01:35:00.000 --> 01:35:05.000
And we receive that in Jesus' name, amen, amen, amen.

1724
01:35:08.920 --> 01:35:11.440
All right, we're gonna have a whole team come up.

1725
01:35:11.440 --> 01:35:13.800
Can we get some more stools, three more stools?

1726
01:35:13.800 --> 01:35:16.120
Yeah, that would be awesome.

1727
01:35:16.120 --> 01:35:18.560
Haley Braun's coming up, Lindsay Ryman,

1728
01:35:18.560 --> 01:35:20.800
Bethany Hicks, and we're gonna do a Q&A.

1729
01:35:20.800 --> 01:35:23.200
You can grab this too when you leave.

1730
01:35:23.200 --> 01:35:24.300
Here, I'll get those.

1731
01:35:24.500 --> 01:35:26.900
You can grab this too when you leave.

1732
01:35:26.900 --> 01:35:27.940
Here, I'll get those.

1733
01:35:30.060 --> 01:35:31.020
Sorry.

1734
01:35:31.020 --> 01:35:33.200
Wow, wow, wow.

1735
01:35:33.200 --> 01:35:34.540
You wanna get this?

1736
01:35:34.540 --> 01:35:36.060
Thanks, Ben Armstrong.

1737
01:35:36.900 --> 01:35:39.460
I wanted to say there was something released in the room

1738
01:35:39.460 --> 01:35:42.100
on generational curses.

1739
01:35:42.100 --> 01:35:44.700
Some of you've partnered with that too long.

1740
01:35:44.700 --> 01:35:46.900
And if that's you, just stand to your feet real quick

1741
01:35:46.900 --> 01:35:49.780
because we're just gonna break agreements with those.

1742
01:35:49.780 --> 01:35:52.780
You thought they had a right to be there, they don't.

1743
01:35:52.780 --> 01:35:54.060
Bye-bye.

1744
01:35:54.820 --> 01:35:58.660
Yeah, if that's you online, stand to your feet

1745
01:35:58.660 --> 01:36:01.300
and you're gonna receive breakthrough right now.

1746
01:36:01.300 --> 01:36:04.020
We break all partnerships we've made,

1747
01:36:04.020 --> 01:36:05.820
known or unknown, with the lie

1748
01:36:05.820 --> 01:36:07.960
that this thing had a right to be there.

1749
01:36:09.060 --> 01:36:11.780
Whatever it is, put the name of that thing,

1750
01:36:11.780 --> 01:36:14.060
that generational curse on your lips,

1751
01:36:14.060 --> 01:36:16.700
that we break all partnerships we've made with that,

1752
01:36:16.700 --> 01:36:18.980
known or unknown partnerships.

1753
01:36:20.700 --> 01:36:23.140
And we nail them to the cross of Jesus Christ.

1754
01:36:24.300 --> 01:36:29.300
And now Jesus, what do you have in exchange for that lie?

1755
01:36:29.900 --> 01:36:32.180
What truth do you have in exchange?

1756
01:36:33.420 --> 01:36:37.100
Fill us with that truth, transform us with that truth.

1757
01:36:37.100 --> 01:36:42.100
Let us become that truth, in Jesus' name, amen.

1758
01:36:42.180 --> 01:36:43.020
Amen.

1759
01:36:43.020 --> 01:36:47.740
And all of you that actually stood for that,

1760
01:36:47.740 --> 01:36:50.220
that's now a familiar spirit,

1761
01:36:50.220 --> 01:36:52.940
it's no longer a generational spirit.

1762
01:36:52.940 --> 01:36:56.580
Okay, it's familiar, and it might come back and say,

1763
01:36:56.580 --> 01:36:59.820
hey, remember we were partying yesterday?

1764
01:36:59.820 --> 01:37:01.380
Remember me?

1765
01:37:01.380 --> 01:37:02.220
Let me in.

1766
01:37:02.220 --> 01:37:06.660
And you say, hey, go talk to the dog next door, right?

1767
01:37:06.660 --> 01:37:08.260
Because you don't receive that.

1768
01:37:08.260 --> 01:37:11.380
And then remind yourself of the truth

1769
01:37:11.380 --> 01:37:15.300
until your emotions catch up,

1770
01:37:15.300 --> 01:37:18.100
because your emotions won't catch up to the truth

1771
01:37:18.100 --> 01:37:20.060
as fast as we'd like it to,

1772
01:37:20.060 --> 01:37:22.700
because we've trained our brain for a long time.

1773
01:37:23.660 --> 01:37:27.780
So you need to retrain your brain with the new truth.

1774
01:37:27.780 --> 01:37:29.140
Okay, bless you.

1775
01:37:29.140 --> 01:37:30.660
So good.

1776
01:37:30.660 --> 01:37:33.580
Well, we have first question out of the gate.

1777
01:37:33.580 --> 01:37:35.300
How do you create a healthy culture

1778
01:37:35.300 --> 01:37:37.180
of dreaming in your family?

1779
01:37:38.620 --> 01:37:40.420
No, I've been talking.

1780
01:37:44.740 --> 01:37:45.580
Yeah.

1781
01:37:45.580 --> 01:37:47.180
Well, first of all, I mean,

1782
01:37:47.180 --> 01:37:49.860
you can't steward what you're not valuing.

1783
01:37:49.860 --> 01:37:51.180
Yeah.

1784
01:37:51.180 --> 01:37:53.380
Right, and so I think the first thing

1785
01:37:53.380 --> 01:37:55.620
that I would do as a parent with your child

1786
01:37:55.620 --> 01:37:58.260
is start to value what your children are dreaming,

1787
01:37:58.260 --> 01:37:59.780
the fact that they are dreaming.

1788
01:37:59.780 --> 01:38:01.900
And so what I would do when my kids were younger,

1789
01:38:01.900 --> 01:38:03.460
I would just ask them every day like,

1790
01:38:03.460 --> 01:38:05.820
hey, did you have any dreams last night?

1791
01:38:05.820 --> 01:38:07.780
And then they would say, oh yeah,

1792
01:38:07.780 --> 01:38:10.140
I would start to have a dream, or maybe they didn't,

1793
01:38:10.140 --> 01:38:12.300
but they would get used to the expectation

1794
01:38:12.300 --> 01:38:14.020
that I would be asking them.

1795
01:38:14.020 --> 01:38:16.580
So then when they did dream,

1796
01:38:16.580 --> 01:38:19.380
it's kind of like they would subconsciously file like,

1797
01:38:19.380 --> 01:38:21.700
oh, mommy's gonna ask me about my dream.

1798
01:38:21.700 --> 01:38:25.380
And so then we would process those dreams together.

1799
01:38:25.380 --> 01:38:27.860
And then I would do kind of like what Ben was teaching us,

1800
01:38:27.860 --> 01:38:29.020
like, oh, what do you think that means?

1801
01:38:29.020 --> 01:38:30.620
How did you feel in the dream?

1802
01:38:30.620 --> 01:38:31.900
And then this is the key,

1803
01:38:31.900 --> 01:38:33.860
and this is what Ben mentioned today,

1804
01:38:33.860 --> 01:38:36.420
is because Daniel did this with Nebuchadnezzar.

1805
01:38:36.420 --> 01:38:40.060
It's like, look, you are hearing from God.

1806
01:38:40.060 --> 01:38:44.260
You start to connect that they are actually hearing from God,

1807
01:38:44.260 --> 01:38:47.340
that God is speaking to them in their dreams.

1808
01:38:47.340 --> 01:38:49.820
And so again, as you start to value it

1809
01:38:49.820 --> 01:38:51.300
and you start to steward it,

1810
01:38:51.300 --> 01:38:52.980
you have them maybe even write it down,

1811
01:38:52.980 --> 01:38:54.980
help them learn how to interpret it,

1812
01:38:54.980 --> 01:38:57.940
then it begins to actually accelerate, I believe,

1813
01:38:57.940 --> 01:38:59.100
even that value in their own life.

1814
01:38:59.100 --> 01:39:01.700
I have a daughter that dreams like 4D.

1815
01:39:01.700 --> 01:39:04.620
It's crazy, like she'll share a dream, right?

1816
01:39:04.620 --> 01:39:05.980
Daniel, she shared dreams with you,

1817
01:39:05.980 --> 01:39:07.220
and it's like, and it was this color,

1818
01:39:07.220 --> 01:39:08.420
and it went around this, and it was this.

1819
01:39:08.420 --> 01:39:10.340
I mean, it's like she's living in it,

1820
01:39:10.340 --> 01:39:13.540
and I wanna know how to steward that even better

1821
01:39:13.540 --> 01:39:14.380
as a parent.

1822
01:39:14.380 --> 01:39:17.320
And so again, recognizing that this is one of the ways

1823
01:39:18.300 --> 01:39:19.640
that God speaks to all of us,

1824
01:39:19.640 --> 01:39:22.080
and I believe that there's an acceleration

1825
01:39:22.080 --> 01:39:23.960
that begins with valuing it.

1826
01:39:23.960 --> 01:39:26.800
Here's a little fun add-on to what Bethany's saying.

1827
01:39:26.800 --> 01:39:29.000
We would pray over our children every night

1828
01:39:29.000 --> 01:39:31.000
for their dreams, and then we'd ask them,

1829
01:39:31.000 --> 01:39:33.920
who do you wanna give dreams to, too?

1830
01:39:33.920 --> 01:39:35.680
So we would pray for others,

1831
01:39:35.680 --> 01:39:37.960
and sometimes it was our neighbor,

1832
01:39:37.960 --> 01:39:39.560
sometimes it was auntie,

1833
01:39:39.560 --> 01:39:42.760
sometimes, because you reap what you sow.

1834
01:39:42.760 --> 01:39:46.920
And so when you not only create that attention to it

1835
01:39:47.520 --> 01:39:48.720
through prayer for yourself,

1836
01:39:48.720 --> 01:39:51.000
and you gift it away to others,

1837
01:39:51.000 --> 01:39:55.080
it's also training this, greater is he that is in you,

1838
01:39:55.080 --> 01:39:58.480
Kira, Madison, Connor, than he that is in the world.

1839
01:39:58.480 --> 01:40:00.080
And we expand the kingdom.

1840
01:40:00.000 --> 01:40:01.660
everywhere we go.

1841
01:40:01.660 --> 01:40:04.440
See, I don't go into a place expecting bad dreams

1842
01:40:04.440 --> 01:40:05.520
might happen to me.

1843
01:40:05.520 --> 01:40:08.600
No, I go into a place expecting to release good dreams

1844
01:40:08.600 --> 01:40:10.160
everywhere I go.

1845
01:40:10.160 --> 01:40:13.500
So I am the greater influence in an environment

1846
01:40:13.500 --> 01:40:16.360
and we teach it through just little things like that.

1847
01:40:16.360 --> 01:40:18.520
I think just to add real quick, I think as well,

1848
01:40:18.520 --> 01:40:21.020
anytime you're trying to introduce a new subject

1849
01:40:21.020 --> 01:40:23.640
into your children's lives or even into a community

1850
01:40:23.640 --> 01:40:26.800
of young believers or people new in something spiritual,

1851
01:40:26.800 --> 01:40:28.760
if you set the bar too high,

1852
01:40:28.760 --> 01:40:31.080
if the stakes are too high,

1853
01:40:31.080 --> 01:40:32.960
nobody wants to engage with that.

1854
01:40:32.960 --> 01:40:35.560
Nobody wants to fail continuously while they learn.

1855
01:40:35.560 --> 01:40:37.440
You play better when you win.

1856
01:40:37.440 --> 01:40:38.540
If you've ever tried to play,

1857
01:40:38.540 --> 01:40:41.140
start playing competitive games with a young child,

1858
01:40:41.140 --> 01:40:42.720
you gotta let them win a couple of times

1859
01:40:42.720 --> 01:40:44.340
for them to get interested in a game

1860
01:40:44.340 --> 01:40:45.560
because if they're losing constantly,

1861
01:40:45.560 --> 01:40:46.880
they lose interest real fast.

1862
01:40:46.880 --> 01:40:51.280
And so I think discovering also the prophetic language

1863
01:40:51.280 --> 01:40:53.760
of each individual in the home is really important.

1864
01:40:53.760 --> 01:40:57.760
So each of us have kind of a main way that we hear God.

1865
01:40:57.760 --> 01:41:00.800
We heard about it, that sight, hearing, which vision,

1866
01:41:00.800 --> 01:41:03.740
it's not just open-eyed vision, it's dreams,

1867
01:41:03.740 --> 01:41:06.560
it's seeing in the mind's eye, it's hearing,

1868
01:41:06.560 --> 01:41:09.480
it's perceiving, which is kind of like a knowing

1869
01:41:09.480 --> 01:41:10.800
or a feeling.

1870
01:41:10.800 --> 01:41:13.520
My oldest child, he doesn't see or hear.

1871
01:41:13.520 --> 01:41:15.440
So when people say, what do you see?

1872
01:41:15.440 --> 01:41:16.960
Well, he didn't used to, he sees now,

1873
01:41:16.960 --> 01:41:19.120
but when he was first born, seeing or hearing,

1874
01:41:19.120 --> 01:41:21.320
he'd be like, mom, God doesn't talk to me.

1875
01:41:21.320 --> 01:41:23.920
But he was a feeler and a perceiver.

1876
01:41:23.920 --> 01:41:27.600
So even in the language of dreams, what did you feel?

1877
01:41:28.440 --> 01:41:30.320
What did you know intuitively that you weren't seeing?

1878
01:41:30.320 --> 01:41:31.160
Things like that.

1879
01:41:31.160 --> 01:41:34.720
I think it's important that we play to the strengths

1880
01:41:34.720 --> 01:41:36.400
of the individuals in our family.

1881
01:41:36.400 --> 01:41:38.400
And as we play to those strengths,

1882
01:41:38.400 --> 01:41:40.600
faith opens up to the spiritual realm,

1883
01:41:40.600 --> 01:41:42.840
and then the other senses become trained

1884
01:41:42.840 --> 01:41:46.040
as they recognize their primary way of hearing and perceiving.

1885
01:41:46.040 --> 01:41:47.480
Does that make sense?

1886
01:41:47.480 --> 01:41:48.560
I wanna just mention something

1887
01:41:48.560 --> 01:41:51.000
because I feel like I'm hearing this question in the room,

1888
01:41:51.000 --> 01:41:52.520
in the spirit, like there's people in here

1889
01:41:52.520 --> 01:41:53.880
that feel like they don't dream.

1890
01:41:53.880 --> 01:41:55.120
Does anyone here feel like I'm not?

1891
01:41:55.120 --> 01:41:56.800
Yeah, and you're like, this is awesome

1892
01:41:56.800 --> 01:41:59.160
that God speaks in dreams, but I'm not a dreamer.

1893
01:41:59.160 --> 01:42:00.720
I was exactly the same way.

1894
01:42:00.720 --> 01:42:02.800
And actually something I learned from Doug Addison,

1895
01:42:02.800 --> 01:42:05.800
who is pretty well known as a prophet of dreams

1896
01:42:05.800 --> 01:42:07.520
and interpretation of dreams.

1897
01:42:07.520 --> 01:42:09.520
But again, it starts with,

1898
01:42:09.520 --> 01:42:11.760
you can't steward what you don't value.

1899
01:42:11.760 --> 01:42:14.800
And so it starts, if you wanna dream more,

1900
01:42:14.800 --> 01:42:16.720
obviously go to sleep, that helps.

1901
01:42:16.720 --> 01:42:19.360
Get a good night's sleep, get some good REM.

1902
01:42:19.360 --> 01:42:23.080
And, but ask the Lord as you're going to sleep,

1903
01:42:23.080 --> 01:42:25.280
say, Lord, I wanna hear you through dreams.

1904
01:42:25.280 --> 01:42:27.760
Father, would you start to give me dreams?

1905
01:42:27.760 --> 01:42:29.560
Help me remember my dreams.

1906
01:42:29.560 --> 01:42:32.200
So you're starting to value

1907
01:42:32.200 --> 01:42:34.760
one of the ways that he's speaking to you.

1908
01:42:34.760 --> 01:42:36.280
And when I started to do that,

1909
01:42:36.280 --> 01:42:38.880
all of a sudden I would start remembering my dreams.

1910
01:42:38.880 --> 01:42:40.560
And the way that you do that,

1911
01:42:40.560 --> 01:42:44.160
it's kind of like you put your expectation

1912
01:42:44.160 --> 01:42:46.160
before the revelation.

1913
01:42:46.160 --> 01:42:50.480
So I would put a notebook next to my bed with a pen

1914
01:42:50.480 --> 01:42:51.840
because I was expecting

1915
01:42:51.840 --> 01:42:53.640
that God was gonna speak to me in dreams

1916
01:42:53.640 --> 01:42:55.360
because he's a good father

1917
01:42:55.360 --> 01:42:57.760
and he delights to give good gifts to his children.

1918
01:42:57.760 --> 01:42:59.320
And so as you're going to sleep,

1919
01:42:59.320 --> 01:43:00.280
if you wanna dream, just say,

1920
01:43:00.280 --> 01:43:02.320
Lord, would you speak to me in my dreams?

1921
01:43:02.320 --> 01:43:04.440
Would you start giving me dreams?

1922
01:43:04.440 --> 01:43:06.160
Okay, don't get caught up

1923
01:43:06.160 --> 01:43:08.400
in what the meaning, the interpretation is yet,

1924
01:43:08.400 --> 01:43:10.120
just start dreaming, right?

1925
01:43:10.120 --> 01:43:12.840
And start recording those dreams, write it down,

1926
01:43:12.840 --> 01:43:15.120
even if it's just a couple bullet points,

1927
01:43:15.120 --> 01:43:16.480
because then you go back to sleep

1928
01:43:16.480 --> 01:43:18.720
and in the morning, just those bullet points

1929
01:43:18.720 --> 01:43:22.320
will bring that dream back to fresh memory.

1930
01:43:22.320 --> 01:43:24.040
And then you can walk through,

1931
01:43:24.040 --> 01:43:25.360
okay, Lord, what does this mean?

1932
01:43:25.360 --> 01:43:26.560
What was it you're speaking?

1933
01:43:26.560 --> 01:43:27.640
How did I feel?

1934
01:43:27.640 --> 01:43:30.440
But I found when I started to do that,

1935
01:43:30.440 --> 01:43:33.240
I went from like hardly remembering my dreams

1936
01:43:33.240 --> 01:43:35.840
to having hundreds and hundreds of dreams

1937
01:43:35.840 --> 01:43:37.280
within several months.

1938
01:43:37.280 --> 01:43:39.040
And you keep a dream journal

1939
01:43:39.040 --> 01:43:43.160
and it's a beautiful way to just explore your own,

1940
01:43:43.160 --> 01:43:45.200
just connection with the Lord.

1941
01:43:45.200 --> 01:43:46.040
It's good.

1942
01:43:46.040 --> 01:43:46.960
Great.

1943
01:43:46.960 --> 01:43:48.640
Question here, what do you do

1944
01:43:48.640 --> 01:43:51.680
if your dreams are consistently scary or demonic?

1945
01:43:53.320 --> 01:43:55.080
Who wants to answer that?

1946
01:43:55.080 --> 01:43:56.120
Do you want to start?

1947
01:43:56.120 --> 01:43:57.960
Do you want to start?

1948
01:43:57.960 --> 01:44:01.240
No, it's okay, you don't have to.

1949
01:44:01.240 --> 01:44:03.560
I'll say this.

1950
01:44:03.560 --> 01:44:06.000
So again, we've talked about it,

1951
01:44:06.000 --> 01:44:08.120
around it at multiple times,

1952
01:44:09.200 --> 01:44:14.200
but all spiritual realms thrive on attention, right?

1953
01:44:14.880 --> 01:44:17.520
And the demonic realm is that pride filled kingdom

1954
01:44:17.520 --> 01:44:19.240
that needs your attention.

1955
01:44:19.240 --> 01:44:22.520
And so that's gonna show up first,

1956
01:44:22.520 --> 01:44:24.320
but scripture also says,

1957
01:44:24.320 --> 01:44:26.760
God will never leave me nor forsake me.

1958
01:44:26.760 --> 01:44:29.440
So he's actually in the dream with you.

1959
01:44:29.440 --> 01:44:31.520
You're just not aware of it.

1960
01:44:31.520 --> 01:44:34.400
And you can train yourself either when you wake up

1961
01:44:34.400 --> 01:44:35.800
and you had a negative dream,

1962
01:44:35.800 --> 01:44:37.120
you had a nightmare, a night terror,

1963
01:44:37.120 --> 01:44:39.320
okay, God, where were you in the dream?

1964
01:44:39.320 --> 01:44:43.160
How do you want to show me yourself in this dream?

1965
01:44:43.160 --> 01:44:44.600
What do you want to do?

1966
01:44:45.680 --> 01:44:47.720
But if you'll do that enough,

1967
01:44:47.720 --> 01:44:50.080
many times you'll remember,

1968
01:44:50.080 --> 01:44:52.360
if you have regular nightmares and night terrors,

1969
01:44:52.360 --> 01:44:54.160
when you go to sleep, I want you to pray this,

1970
01:44:54.160 --> 01:44:55.840
God, give me a weapon,

1971
01:44:55.840 --> 01:44:59.640
help me see you in the dream on how to defeat this.

1972
01:45:00.000 --> 01:45:02.000
just had a testimony of a young lady

1973
01:45:02.000 --> 01:45:04.800
who had regular nightmares and night terrors,

1974
01:45:04.800 --> 01:45:06.920
and this exact same thing happened,

1975
01:45:06.920 --> 01:45:09.720
and they stopped the night she did it.

1976
01:45:09.720 --> 01:45:12.640
But I really believe you can actually say,

1977
01:45:12.640 --> 01:45:13.920
God, where are you?

1978
01:45:13.920 --> 01:45:15.840
And he'll show himself to you in the dream,

1979
01:45:15.840 --> 01:45:17.400
it'll shift everything.

1980
01:45:17.400 --> 01:45:20.160
And the other thing is when you wake up,

1981
01:45:20.160 --> 01:45:22.640
if you'll connect yourself to God,

1982
01:45:22.640 --> 01:45:25.480
in that, the devil start getting frustrated

1983
01:45:25.480 --> 01:45:27.080
that every time he gives you a nightmare,

1984
01:45:27.080 --> 01:45:28.420
you connect with God,

1985
01:45:28.420 --> 01:45:30.260
and he'll stop giving you nightmares.

1986
01:45:31.540 --> 01:45:32.780
That's so good.

1987
01:45:32.780 --> 01:45:33.780
I love that.

1988
01:45:33.780 --> 01:45:36.140
I can think of kind of three practical things as well.

1989
01:45:36.140 --> 01:45:38.860
First of all, watch what you're feeding on, to be honest.

1990
01:45:38.860 --> 01:45:40.740
Like, you know, my daughter watched

1991
01:45:40.740 --> 01:45:43.860
the entire Stranger Things four season in like a day,

1992
01:45:43.860 --> 01:45:45.780
and she's like, I'm having these dreams about,

1993
01:45:45.780 --> 01:45:47.560
I'm like, what have you been eating?

1994
01:45:47.560 --> 01:45:48.400
You know what I mean?

1995
01:45:48.400 --> 01:45:51.620
Like, yeah, I don't love Stranger Things,

1996
01:45:51.620 --> 01:45:52.980
I've never seen it, but I'm just saying,

1997
01:45:52.980 --> 01:45:55.480
like, just watch what you're feeding on, guys.

1998
01:45:55.480 --> 01:45:57.400
Because some things,

1999
01:45:57.400 --> 01:46:00.640
remember the eyes can be the gateway into your soul.

2000
01:46:00.640 --> 01:46:03.280
And so again, if you're processing

2001
01:46:03.280 --> 01:46:06.000
what you've been feeding on during the days,

2002
01:46:06.000 --> 01:46:08.400
it can manifest in your dream life.

2003
01:46:08.400 --> 01:46:10.260
And so that would be kind of the first place

2004
01:46:10.260 --> 01:46:11.100
that I would check.

2005
01:46:11.100 --> 01:46:12.980
Second place, one of the things I learned too,

2006
01:46:12.980 --> 01:46:15.280
is you flip those nightmares too,

2007
01:46:15.280 --> 01:46:16.520
you can flip those dreams.

2008
01:46:16.520 --> 01:46:19.540
So again, something I learned from Doug Addison was like,

2009
01:46:19.540 --> 01:46:23.040
if people are having dreams where somebody's chasing you,

2010
01:46:23.040 --> 01:46:24.440
and they're chasing you,

2011
01:46:24.480 --> 01:46:28.480
well, and it feels like a bad guy that's chasing you,

2012
01:46:28.480 --> 01:46:31.860
then what I learned from him is you flip that

2013
01:46:31.860 --> 01:46:34.200
in the sense that if the enemy is chasing you,

2014
01:46:34.200 --> 01:46:36.240
then that means there's a destiny on your life

2015
01:46:36.240 --> 01:46:37.620
that he doesn't want you to catch.

2016
01:46:37.620 --> 01:46:38.820
So it's actually a good thing

2017
01:46:38.820 --> 01:46:41.160
because he's trying to get you to be afraid.

2018
01:46:41.160 --> 01:46:43.360
So you kind of flip that, bring it back to the Lord,

2019
01:46:43.360 --> 01:46:45.720
like, wow, there's a destiny on my life,

2020
01:46:45.720 --> 01:46:48.240
and I actually can flip that, right?

2021
01:46:48.240 --> 01:46:50.200
And so there's that piece.

2022
01:46:50.200 --> 01:46:54.960
And then, also, I just prayed this as a kid.

2023
01:46:54.960 --> 01:46:56.320
I remember doing this all the time

2024
01:46:56.320 --> 01:46:57.260
when I would have nightmares.

2025
01:46:57.260 --> 01:46:58.680
I just prayed, Jesus,

2026
01:46:58.680 --> 01:47:01.440
help me just to have good dreams tonight.

2027
01:47:01.440 --> 01:47:03.640
I know that's super practical and simple,

2028
01:47:03.640 --> 01:47:05.680
and that's just how I would train my children.

2029
01:47:05.680 --> 01:47:08.360
Like, Jesus, just give me only good dreams.

2030
01:47:08.360 --> 01:47:09.440
I just pray good dreams.

2031
01:47:09.440 --> 01:47:12.360
I think it's okay to preempt it as well

2032
01:47:12.360 --> 01:47:14.240
so that we can actually hear them.

2033
01:47:14.240 --> 01:47:15.680
And with children, especially,

2034
01:47:15.680 --> 01:47:16.520
I love that you brought up

2035
01:47:16.520 --> 01:47:19.520
that the enemy likes to puff up.

2036
01:47:19.520 --> 01:47:21.520
He likes to make himself appear bigger

2037
01:47:21.520 --> 01:47:23.000
than he actually is.

2038
01:47:23.000 --> 01:47:25.440
And one of the ways, especially with children,

2039
01:47:25.440 --> 01:47:27.560
is that he will try to introduce himself

2040
01:47:28.520 --> 01:47:31.040
with night terrors and nightmares

2041
01:47:31.040 --> 01:47:33.440
because he's trying to get the children

2042
01:47:33.440 --> 01:47:35.360
to either put fear into them

2043
01:47:35.360 --> 01:47:38.160
or to get them to shut off that scene gate,

2044
01:47:38.160 --> 01:47:40.400
their ability to see God in that area.

2045
01:47:40.400 --> 01:47:43.040
And so I know that Dana does a great teaching

2046
01:47:43.040 --> 01:47:43.880
on this as well,

2047
01:47:43.880 --> 01:47:46.780
and I've seen so many people at a young age,

2048
01:47:46.780 --> 01:47:49.620
in fact, I think that's even happening here as adults,

2049
01:47:49.620 --> 01:47:52.180
that as a child, you were prone to night terrors

2050
01:47:52.180 --> 01:47:53.460
or you're prone to nightmares,

2051
01:47:53.460 --> 01:47:56.140
and you actually shut off that gate.

2052
01:47:56.140 --> 01:47:58.740
You closed that because you didn't understand

2053
01:47:58.740 --> 01:48:00.420
how to steward or manage that,

2054
01:48:00.420 --> 01:48:02.980
and that's something that you're wanting to open up.

2055
01:48:02.980 --> 01:48:05.380
Is that anybody here that feels like they're ready to?

2056
01:48:05.380 --> 01:48:07.680
Okay, so if that's you, go ahead and just stand up.

2057
01:48:07.680 --> 01:48:09.220
We're just gonna go after this right now.

2058
01:48:09.220 --> 01:48:12.100
We're gonna open up that scene gate,

2059
01:48:12.100 --> 01:48:13.340
that internal scene realm,

2060
01:48:13.340 --> 01:48:16.020
the realm of dreams and visions and imagination.

2061
01:48:16.020 --> 01:48:18.540
So Father, I thank You, Lord, right now

2062
01:48:18.540 --> 01:48:21.260
that that scene is a gift,

2063
01:48:21.260 --> 01:48:25.900
that the language of dreams is a gift, Father.

2064
01:48:25.900 --> 01:48:28.340
And Lord, I just pray for everyone right here right now,

2065
01:48:28.340 --> 01:48:30.860
Lord, that shut that gate as a child

2066
01:48:30.860 --> 01:48:34.740
because of ignorance, because of lack of understanding,

2067
01:48:34.740 --> 01:48:36.320
because of fear, Lord God,

2068
01:48:36.320 --> 01:48:38.980
they did it to protect themselves, Father.

2069
01:48:38.980 --> 01:48:40.660
And Lord, we just pray right now, God,

2070
01:48:40.660 --> 01:48:44.160
that You would open up the eye gates right now,

2071
01:48:44.160 --> 01:48:45.960
the inner scene realm.

2072
01:48:45.960 --> 01:48:49.760
Father, we just flip on that light switch right now.

2073
01:48:49.760 --> 01:48:50.820
And I just see like you guys,

2074
01:48:50.820 --> 01:48:52.960
put your hand over your eyes first.

2075
01:48:52.960 --> 01:48:54.320
Okay, just say, okay,

2076
01:48:54.320 --> 01:48:56.920
Jesus' name, open up my eyes to see.

2077
01:48:56.920 --> 01:48:59.260
Open up my eyes to see.

2078
01:48:59.260 --> 01:49:01.640
Okay, and we're talking about our physical eyes

2079
01:49:01.640 --> 01:49:03.200
and our internal eyes.

2080
01:49:03.200 --> 01:49:05.400
And even put your hands on your heart.

2081
01:49:05.400 --> 01:49:07.640
Say, Lord, open up my eyes to see.

2082
01:49:07.640 --> 01:49:09.320
Open up my eyes to see.

2083
01:49:09.320 --> 01:49:11.400
Lord, I wanna see You in my dreams.

2084
01:49:11.400 --> 01:49:12.240
I wanna see You in my dreams.

2085
01:49:12.240 --> 01:49:13.920
I wanna hear You in my dreams.

2086
01:49:14.560 --> 01:49:15.800
I wanna feel You in my dreams, Father.

2087
01:49:15.800 --> 01:49:17.160
We do, we just, it's just,

2088
01:49:17.160 --> 01:49:19.200
and this is kind of, I always see it like this.

2089
01:49:19.200 --> 01:49:20.400
Just do like a prophetic act

2090
01:49:20.400 --> 01:49:22.700
of flipping the light switch on.

2091
01:49:22.700 --> 01:49:25.000
Okay, so Lord, we thank You, Father, right now.

2092
01:49:25.000 --> 01:49:26.600
It's as simple as that, guys.

2093
01:49:26.600 --> 01:49:29.040
And I just believe that that's gonna be opening up

2094
01:49:29.040 --> 01:49:32.080
even that internal scene realm of visions and dreams

2095
01:49:32.080 --> 01:49:34.120
and imaginations to You at a whole other level.

2096
01:49:34.120 --> 01:49:35.880
In Jesus' name, amen.

2097
01:49:35.880 --> 01:49:36.720
Great.

2098
01:49:38.200 --> 01:49:39.800
One more on the subject of dreams,

2099
01:49:39.800 --> 01:49:41.480
then we might shift to a different subject.

2100
01:49:41.480 --> 01:49:42.740
But one of the questions here is,

2101
01:49:42.740 --> 01:49:45.420
how do you tell the difference between a Holy Spirit dream

2102
01:49:45.420 --> 01:49:47.980
and then a soul or body dream?

2103
01:49:47.980 --> 01:49:51.700
Like one that's coming from me versus the Holy Spirit.

2104
01:49:51.700 --> 01:49:54.020
Pizza dream, but I'm just.

2105
01:49:54.020 --> 01:49:59.020
Okay, remember in my first session,

2106
01:49:59.620 --> 01:50:00.460
I actually.

2107
01:50:00.000 --> 01:50:03.400
talked about identifying Holy Spirit.

2108
01:50:03.400 --> 01:50:08.040
So number one, is there scriptural resonance with that?

2109
01:50:08.040 --> 01:50:10.400
Can I anchor it back in scripture in some way?

2110
01:50:10.400 --> 01:50:13.040
The character and nature of God through scripture.

2111
01:50:13.040 --> 01:50:16.000
Holy Spirit resonance is number two that I'm looking for.

2112
01:50:16.000 --> 01:50:19.120
It's like, does my spirit connect

2113
01:50:19.120 --> 01:50:20.560
with the Holy Spirit in this?

2114
01:50:20.560 --> 01:50:23.580
And then community affirmation.

2115
01:50:23.580 --> 01:50:24.960
Community is two prong.

2116
01:50:24.960 --> 01:50:28.720
It's your friends and family and your leaders

2117
01:50:28.760 --> 01:50:31.040
with a shared value system.

2118
01:50:31.040 --> 01:50:32.600
Shared value system.

2119
01:50:32.600 --> 01:50:34.000
Because you can submit some things

2120
01:50:34.000 --> 01:50:36.000
to people who have no grid for anything,

2121
01:50:36.000 --> 01:50:39.160
and then you get total craziness there.

2122
01:50:39.160 --> 01:50:41.280
But especially with soul.

2123
01:50:41.280 --> 01:50:44.800
Friends and family know you really well.

2124
01:50:44.800 --> 01:50:46.760
They know what you're feeding on.

2125
01:50:46.760 --> 01:50:49.680
I know my kids when they lived in my house,

2126
01:50:49.680 --> 01:50:52.000
and I know what they watched on TV,

2127
01:50:52.000 --> 01:50:53.520
so I know what their soul is.

2128
01:50:53.520 --> 01:50:56.440
I know with our conversations when I'm connected with them,

2129
01:50:56.440 --> 01:51:00.680
I know, oh, that sounds like soul influence over here.

2130
01:51:00.680 --> 01:51:01.960
This sounds like God.

2131
01:51:01.960 --> 01:51:03.640
And then the next thing is fruit.

2132
01:51:03.640 --> 01:51:07.000
Like, what is the fruit of that encounter,

2133
01:51:07.000 --> 01:51:09.120
that dream producing?

2134
01:51:09.120 --> 01:51:10.840
That's gonna tell you a lot.

2135
01:51:10.840 --> 01:51:12.120
And then time.

2136
01:51:12.120 --> 01:51:14.720
I had a dream one time when we lost,

2137
01:51:14.720 --> 01:51:18.960
we lost $800,000 in our business in three months,

2138
01:51:18.960 --> 01:51:20.940
and I owned a construction business.

2139
01:51:21.800 --> 01:51:24.800
And I had a dream that someone gave me a check

2140
01:51:24.800 --> 01:51:27.080
for $500,000, right?

2141
01:51:27.080 --> 01:51:29.400
And I'm like, oh, God dream.

2142
01:51:29.400 --> 01:51:33.240
Of course.

2143
01:51:33.240 --> 01:51:36.000
But when you're in that place, Chris knows this.

2144
01:51:36.000 --> 01:51:39.140
He's had big losses in his business years ago,

2145
01:51:39.140 --> 01:51:43.640
but we invent ways God can provide every day.

2146
01:51:43.640 --> 01:51:46.800
And not every day, every minute of every day.

2147
01:51:46.800 --> 01:51:48.600
It is racking our brain

2148
01:51:48.600 --> 01:51:50.520
because we're actually good stewards,

2149
01:51:50.520 --> 01:51:52.120
and we wanna take care of that,

2150
01:51:52.120 --> 01:51:54.120
and it's so important in our life.

2151
01:51:54.120 --> 01:51:55.200
We do that.

2152
01:51:55.200 --> 01:51:57.960
Well, that never happened.

2153
01:51:57.960 --> 01:52:02.960
Time told me it was a soul-based dream, not a God dream.

2154
01:52:04.280 --> 01:52:06.040
Yeah, do you have something to add?

2155
01:52:06.040 --> 01:52:07.440
I was gonna just ask Lindsay,

2156
01:52:07.440 --> 01:52:09.400
just the way that you're wired, Lindsay,

2157
01:52:09.400 --> 01:52:10.920
I feel like Ben was not just talking

2158
01:52:10.920 --> 01:52:12.320
about dream interpretation,

2159
01:52:12.320 --> 01:52:14.120
but also about interpretation of the prophetic.

2160
01:52:14.120 --> 01:52:16.600
And I would think with what you're doing consistently

2161
01:52:16.600 --> 01:52:19.960
with Aquaregia, you're probably having to discern soul

2162
01:52:19.960 --> 01:52:22.400
from spirit, from the Holy Spirit quite a lot.

2163
01:52:22.400 --> 01:52:24.240
Is there anything that you feel like you guys do

2164
01:52:24.240 --> 01:52:27.280
with prophetic reports to kind of discern the difference

2165
01:52:27.280 --> 01:52:28.920
between soul and the Holy Spirit?

2166
01:52:30.120 --> 01:52:33.840
Well, yeah, I mean, we start to identify,

2167
01:52:33.840 --> 01:52:36.080
I work in team all the time, so you're hearing from me,

2168
01:52:36.080 --> 01:52:39.640
but there's so many people that are a part of what I do.

2169
01:52:39.640 --> 01:52:44.480
And so we'll one, one, we use a blind method,

2170
01:52:44.480 --> 01:52:47.680
so no one ever knows who anyone's prophesying over.

2171
01:52:47.680 --> 01:52:51.240
And so when there's a pattern that forms,

2172
01:52:51.240 --> 01:52:52.440
we pay attention to that.

2173
01:52:52.440 --> 01:52:56.280
But I also have identified who the discerners are

2174
01:52:56.280 --> 01:52:59.240
in my group, because we do some really fun activations

2175
01:52:59.240 --> 01:53:00.680
where we're practicing discernment.

2176
01:53:00.680 --> 01:53:02.720
And I've also just been able to measure

2177
01:53:02.720 --> 01:53:04.160
where they are accurate.

2178
01:53:04.160 --> 01:53:05.800
And so we'll go through and then we're just like,

2179
01:53:05.800 --> 01:53:07.320
what do you feel on these words?

2180
01:53:07.320 --> 01:53:09.760
And there's times where we're like, I feel truth on this.

2181
01:53:09.760 --> 01:53:12.320
Like, and we'll start to, we're kind of methodical

2182
01:53:12.320 --> 01:53:13.480
and mathematical about it.

2183
01:53:13.480 --> 01:53:16.000
Like, okay, you know, two or three witnesses

2184
01:53:16.000 --> 01:53:19.480
are feeling truth on this, and we pull out the pattern.

2185
01:53:19.680 --> 01:53:22.560
And then we always, in those interpretations though,

2186
01:53:22.560 --> 01:53:25.600
we always leave it back to the receiver and the Lord.

2187
01:53:25.600 --> 01:53:28.720
So we're saying, hey, this is what we have identified.

2188
01:53:28.720 --> 01:53:30.200
This is what we're feeling,

2189
01:53:30.200 --> 01:53:32.960
but the interpretation belongs to you and the Lord.

2190
01:53:32.960 --> 01:53:33.800
That's good.

2191
01:53:33.800 --> 01:53:34.640
Can I just follow up real quick?

2192
01:53:34.640 --> 01:53:37.080
When you talked about discern as someone was asking here,

2193
01:53:37.080 --> 01:53:39.240
how, what do you do when you're constantly overwhelmed

2194
01:53:39.240 --> 01:53:40.920
by negative discernment?

2195
01:53:40.920 --> 01:53:42.440
I think something that really struck me

2196
01:53:42.440 --> 01:53:43.440
about what you shared,

2197
01:53:43.440 --> 01:53:44.960
even when you said you went to a psychic,

2198
01:53:44.960 --> 01:53:49.000
which really your Metron has got so much authority

2199
01:53:49.000 --> 01:53:50.520
in that atmosphere.

2200
01:53:50.520 --> 01:53:53.120
And so that's not something that anyone

2201
01:53:53.120 --> 01:53:54.240
can just walk in and do,

2202
01:53:54.240 --> 01:53:57.480
but I feel like you have such authority in the atmosphere

2203
01:53:57.480 --> 01:53:59.480
of even the demonic realm.

2204
01:53:59.480 --> 01:54:02.040
I don't feel like I hear you speak about that much.

2205
01:54:02.040 --> 01:54:03.080
Even when you speak about discernment,

2206
01:54:03.080 --> 01:54:04.400
it's very kingdom realm.

2207
01:54:04.400 --> 01:54:05.800
How have you kind of trained your people

2208
01:54:05.800 --> 01:54:08.400
to discern the kingdom realm and maybe get out of that?

2209
01:54:08.400 --> 01:54:11.600
I'm just discerning the heaviness of the demonic.

2210
01:54:13.400 --> 01:54:17.720
Well, I'm so lucky that I got saved in Bethel culture.

2211
01:54:17.720 --> 01:54:22.560
So I was trained to not really give a lot of attention

2212
01:54:22.560 --> 01:54:25.800
because I learned that the kingdom of darkness creates pride

2213
01:54:26.920 --> 01:54:28.480
or it thrives on pride.

2214
01:54:29.960 --> 01:54:33.440
But I am always looking,

2215
01:54:33.440 --> 01:54:36.040
like if there's something that's presenting itself to me,

2216
01:54:36.040 --> 01:54:39.160
then I'm like, okay, God, where are you in this?

2217
01:54:39.160 --> 01:54:41.880
And then how can I like counteract it?

2218
01:54:41.880 --> 01:54:43.520
And so I just want to say,

2219
01:54:43.520 --> 01:54:44.720
when I went to go see the psychic,

2220
01:54:44.720 --> 01:54:46.480
that wasn't like a willy nilly decision.

2221
01:54:46.480 --> 01:54:49.560
I had like five people, a council of the wise

2222
01:54:49.560 --> 01:54:51.280
that prayed for me and were covering me

2223
01:54:51.280 --> 01:54:52.720
like as I was in there,

2224
01:54:52.720 --> 01:54:55.120
because God was sending me on a research project, okay?

2225
01:54:55.120 --> 01:54:59.080
Yeah, it was actually to question, not to receive from.

2226
01:54:59.080 --> 01:54:59.920
Yeah, yeah.

2227
01:55:00.000 --> 01:55:02.160
Actually, I sat down and asked her questions

2228
01:55:02.160 --> 01:55:05.080
and then prophesied over her and then she quit her job.

2229
01:55:05.080 --> 01:55:06.240
So that was amazing.

2230
01:55:06.240 --> 01:55:07.880
So, but,

2231
01:55:10.760 --> 01:55:13.260
so I was just kind of, honestly,

2232
01:55:14.200 --> 01:55:17.740
if the demonic is there, then there's something going on.

2233
01:55:17.740 --> 01:55:19.880
And then I'm like, okay, well, why is this here?

2234
01:55:19.880 --> 01:55:22.120
And I start to partner with the mercy of God

2235
01:55:22.120 --> 01:55:25.160
and the compassion of like why it has been here.

2236
01:55:25.160 --> 01:55:26.840
And so then I start coming through the back door

2237
01:55:26.840 --> 01:55:29.360
of like why you're here and I partner with what God is,

2238
01:55:29.800 --> 01:55:32.420
why they're there and like why he's, why God's there.

2239
01:55:32.420 --> 01:55:34.440
Sorry, I didn't say that very clearly.

2240
01:55:34.440 --> 01:55:35.800
That's really beautiful.

2241
01:55:35.800 --> 01:55:38.420
I think that's really powerful too, to recognize,

2242
01:55:39.920 --> 01:55:42.920
you know, I think where you have a metron of influence,

2243
01:55:42.920 --> 01:55:46.040
so a sphere of influence is where you really have authority.

2244
01:55:46.040 --> 01:55:48.120
We have authority of all things,

2245
01:55:48.120 --> 01:55:50.040
but God has given us specific spheres

2246
01:55:50.040 --> 01:55:51.040
where we can actually step in.

2247
01:55:51.040 --> 01:55:53.400
And I feel like there's just this real grace

2248
01:55:53.400 --> 01:55:54.240
on your life, Lindsay.

2249
01:55:54.240 --> 01:55:56.200
And I don't think we see it enough

2250
01:55:56.200 --> 01:55:57.680
in the prophetic within the church.

2251
01:55:57.680 --> 01:56:00.440
People are actually called into those realms and society.

2252
01:56:00.440 --> 01:56:02.000
And I think it's just amazing.

2253
01:56:02.000 --> 01:56:03.900
And I know it's vulnerable to share,

2254
01:56:03.900 --> 01:56:05.400
but it's actually really powerful.

2255
01:56:05.400 --> 01:56:07.880
And it opens up the eyes of the church to go,

2256
01:56:07.880 --> 01:56:10.940
we can actually influence beyond the walls of this building.

2257
01:56:10.940 --> 01:56:13.200
We can actually go into society.

2258
01:56:13.200 --> 01:56:15.120
So thank you for being so vulnerable and sharing.

2259
01:56:15.120 --> 01:56:17.100
And can we ask you to do this?

2260
01:56:18.160 --> 01:56:22.040
If you have big questions like this

2261
01:56:22.040 --> 01:56:24.600
that aren't getting answered or, you know,

2262
01:56:24.600 --> 01:56:28.920
or even that are being asked and you wanna study more,

2263
01:56:28.920 --> 01:56:32.920
I would say, grab your questions, write them all out.

2264
01:56:32.920 --> 01:56:36.240
And then when you go back and review our sessions,

2265
01:56:37.240 --> 01:56:41.340
you have 90 days to review all of the sessions.

2266
01:56:41.340 --> 01:56:43.360
Have those questions right in front of you,

2267
01:56:43.360 --> 01:56:46.380
because we've answered a lot of these questions

2268
01:56:46.380 --> 01:56:49.880
in multiple ways on multiple layers.

2269
01:56:49.880 --> 01:56:52.760
You just didn't have the question in your mind at the time.

2270
01:56:52.760 --> 01:56:55.360
So you didn't know it was actually answered.

2271
01:56:55.360 --> 01:56:59.800
And so I really would want the richness of your questions

2272
01:56:59.800 --> 01:57:01.800
being answered on multiple levels,

2273
01:57:01.800 --> 01:57:05.060
not just in a, you know, 45 minute session

2274
01:57:05.060 --> 01:57:07.400
where we can only get a snippet of it.

2275
01:57:07.400 --> 01:57:10.720
There is so much that has actually been released

2276
01:57:10.720 --> 01:57:13.960
that I think hits on a bunch of these different spots

2277
01:57:13.960 --> 01:57:15.360
in all of our sessions.

2278
01:57:15.360 --> 01:57:16.320
So good.

2279
01:57:16.320 --> 01:57:17.960
We have a question from someone,

2280
01:57:17.960 --> 01:57:20.080
I'm sure it's more than one person.

2281
01:57:20.080 --> 01:57:22.520
Someone just, they recognize they haven't stewarded

2282
01:57:23.280 --> 01:57:25.960
possibly because they didn't know they were supposed to.

2283
01:57:25.960 --> 01:57:27.760
Do you have any advice or encouragement

2284
01:57:27.760 --> 01:57:28.880
for someone that's just realized,

2285
01:57:28.880 --> 01:57:31.280
oh man, I haven't stewarded these words.

2286
01:57:31.280 --> 01:57:32.560
What do I do now?

2287
01:57:32.560 --> 01:57:34.040
Or even a personal story of maybe

2288
01:57:34.040 --> 01:57:36.000
where you didn't steward a word.

2289
01:57:36.000 --> 01:57:37.600
Yeah, that's so good.

2290
01:57:37.600 --> 01:57:40.840
That's a huge passion that I have too.

2291
01:57:40.840 --> 01:57:44.220
Because again, a lot of people think that

2292
01:57:44.220 --> 01:57:46.560
when you, prophecy is just receiving in a word

2293
01:57:46.560 --> 01:57:47.740
and like, oh, I got a prophecy.

2294
01:57:47.740 --> 01:57:50.040
No, there's so many layers to it.

2295
01:57:50.040 --> 01:57:52.400
In order to see it come to fulfillment

2296
01:57:53.240 --> 01:57:54.080
and to promise.

2297
01:57:54.080 --> 01:57:55.680
And I mentioned it a little bit yesterday about partnership.

2298
01:57:55.680 --> 01:57:58.320
But a really, really practical example.

2299
01:57:58.320 --> 01:58:00.360
First of all, you wanna process the word.

2300
01:58:00.360 --> 01:58:02.960
And again, there's different tools.

2301
01:58:02.960 --> 01:58:05.960
And these guys use the prophetic lab for processing.

2302
01:58:05.960 --> 01:58:07.600
We have a prophetic processing tool.

2303
01:58:07.600 --> 01:58:09.700
Daniel's book, The Good Fight,

2304
01:58:09.700 --> 01:58:12.400
really helps you to break down

2305
01:58:12.400 --> 01:58:14.020
kind of the anatomy of the word

2306
01:58:14.020 --> 01:58:15.720
and to discover the identity.

2307
01:58:15.720 --> 01:58:17.880
There's times and seasons in your word.

2308
01:58:17.880 --> 01:58:19.920
There could be conditions and commands.

2309
01:58:19.920 --> 01:58:21.980
And if there's a responsibility that you have

2310
01:58:22.580 --> 01:58:23.820
that you're supposed to do, right?

2311
01:58:23.820 --> 01:58:26.580
And so it's really helpful to first of all,

2312
01:58:26.580 --> 01:58:28.100
start with that processing.

2313
01:58:28.100 --> 01:58:29.680
But then let's say you find out like,

2314
01:58:29.680 --> 01:58:33.020
hey, I now know I have a responsibility

2315
01:58:33.020 --> 01:58:35.420
to partner with this word to see it come to pass.

2316
01:58:35.420 --> 01:58:37.300
And so here's just an example that I have.

2317
01:58:37.300 --> 01:58:39.140
I was given a word.

2318
01:58:39.140 --> 01:58:40.180
Okay, well, we'll use the one

2319
01:58:40.180 --> 01:58:41.820
that we've been talking about all weekend right now.

2320
01:58:41.820 --> 01:58:42.780
I got a word from Chris.

2321
01:58:42.780 --> 01:58:44.460
You're gonna write the book

2322
01:58:44.460 --> 01:58:46.260
that redefines mothering in the kingdom of God.

2323
01:58:46.260 --> 01:58:47.120
That's awesome.

2324
01:58:47.720 --> 01:58:52.720
Like, it wasn't like Holy Spirit came on me like a dove

2325
01:58:53.680 --> 01:58:54.780
and I got in this trance

2326
01:58:54.780 --> 01:58:56.360
and I was writing this book for nine months.

2327
01:58:56.360 --> 01:58:58.160
Like, no, it was hard work, you guys.

2328
01:58:58.160 --> 01:59:00.920
Like I had to set my clock every single day

2329
01:59:00.920 --> 01:59:04.640
for 20 minutes to an hour every day and just write.

2330
01:59:04.640 --> 01:59:06.360
And it was hard and I had to press through

2331
01:59:06.360 --> 01:59:08.300
and I had to get feedback and I had to have edits.

2332
01:59:08.300 --> 01:59:10.960
And it's like, you have to go through those things

2333
01:59:10.960 --> 01:59:14.260
to actually see the fulfillment of that word come to pass.

2334
01:59:14.260 --> 01:59:15.240
I've had words that are like,

2335
01:59:15.240 --> 01:59:18.000
you're gonna speak in stadiums, okay?

2336
01:59:18.000 --> 01:59:21.840
Now, I had never spoken before, so what do I do?

2337
01:59:21.840 --> 01:59:25.600
I start to prepare as best as it depends on me,

2338
01:59:25.600 --> 01:59:26.840
as far as it depends on me,

2339
01:59:26.840 --> 01:59:30.040
to the best of my ability for the fulfillment of that word.

2340
01:59:30.040 --> 01:59:33.160
I can't expect that I'm gonna go and speak into a stadium

2341
01:59:33.160 --> 01:59:35.580
unless I went and walked into an empty stadium one day

2342
01:59:35.580 --> 01:59:36.800
and just preached to myself.

2343
01:59:36.800 --> 01:59:38.080
Like, yay, I fulfilled the word.

2344
01:59:38.080 --> 01:59:39.700
That's, I could, you know,

2345
01:59:39.700 --> 01:59:41.240
that's not what we're talking about.

2346
01:59:41.240 --> 01:59:42.600
We're talking, so what did I do?

2347
01:59:42.880 --> 01:59:45.560
I got books on how to speak publicly.

2348
01:59:45.560 --> 01:59:49.200
I started to watch some speakers that really spoke to me

2349
01:59:49.200 --> 01:59:50.520
and learned how they did that.

2350
01:59:50.520 --> 01:59:53.320
I would say yes to every opportunity to speak,

2351
01:59:53.320 --> 01:59:55.640
whether it was two people or 200.

2352
01:59:55.640 --> 02:00:00.040
I would do everything that I could to steward my ability.

2353
02:00:00.000 --> 02:00:01.120
to do that, you know?

2354
02:00:01.120 --> 02:00:03.360
And so if you get words about going to the nations

2355
02:00:03.360 --> 02:00:05.680
and you don't even have your passport,

2356
02:00:09.460 --> 02:00:12.500
that's a word for some of you in this room.

2357
02:00:12.500 --> 02:00:14.220
If you have words about going to the nations

2358
02:00:14.220 --> 02:00:17.300
and you don't even have your passport, start there.

2359
02:00:17.300 --> 02:00:19.860
Because that is a step of faith

2360
02:00:19.860 --> 02:00:22.180
in partnering with the prophetic promise.

2361
02:00:22.180 --> 02:00:23.580
That's good.

2362
02:00:23.580 --> 02:00:25.900
You have anything to add to that, Lindsay?

2363
02:00:25.900 --> 02:00:27.300
I mean, I think she covered it.

2364
02:00:27.380 --> 02:00:31.300
Mostly I would just say, I love processing words.

2365
02:00:31.300 --> 02:00:34.400
I view it like as a scavenger hunt.

2366
02:00:34.400 --> 02:00:35.500
And so it's so fun for me,

2367
02:00:35.500 --> 02:00:37.180
especially when I start detecting patterns

2368
02:00:37.180 --> 02:00:40.060
because I feel like I'm like, I found you, Holy Spirit.

2369
02:00:40.060 --> 02:00:42.300
Like, He's like, you found me.

2370
02:00:42.300 --> 02:00:44.700
And you know, it says Proverbs 25 too.

2371
02:00:44.700 --> 02:00:46.520
It's the glory of God to conceal a matter

2372
02:00:46.520 --> 02:00:48.860
and it's the glory of kings to search it out.

2373
02:00:48.860 --> 02:00:50.680
And so like approach it,

2374
02:00:50.680 --> 02:00:52.360
not as like some work you have to do,

2375
02:00:52.360 --> 02:00:54.460
but this like scavenger hunt you're going on,

2376
02:00:54.460 --> 02:00:56.420
you're like searching for the treasure

2377
02:00:56.420 --> 02:00:58.240
and look in between the lines.

2378
02:00:58.240 --> 02:01:00.660
I told that example of the friendhood,

2379
02:01:00.660 --> 02:01:03.780
the word about Spain and revival, right?

2380
02:01:03.780 --> 02:01:04.920
And like, it sounded like a lot of things

2381
02:01:04.920 --> 02:01:07.300
God was going to do, but it was like,

2382
02:01:07.300 --> 02:01:08.660
well, have you learned Spanish yet?

2383
02:01:08.660 --> 02:01:10.660
Like, so look for the things that are obvious

2384
02:01:10.660 --> 02:01:12.420
and then in between the lines to partner

2385
02:01:12.420 --> 02:01:13.460
and have fun with it.

2386
02:01:13.460 --> 02:01:14.300
Yeah.

2387
02:01:14.300 --> 02:01:15.500
I just want to mention just three points

2388
02:01:15.500 --> 02:01:16.340
on this really quick.

2389
02:01:16.340 --> 02:01:17.420
I preached on this last year,

2390
02:01:17.420 --> 02:01:19.660
but this is kind of the three ways

2391
02:01:19.660 --> 02:01:21.540
to partner with your word, real practically.

2392
02:01:21.540 --> 02:01:24.620
Number one, you first need to agree with the word.

2393
02:01:24.620 --> 02:01:26.660
Okay, your agreement is necessary.

2394
02:01:26.660 --> 02:01:29.700
Your amen to God's yes.

2395
02:01:29.700 --> 02:01:32.620
See that prophetic promise as this is God's yes

2396
02:01:32.620 --> 02:01:34.720
and you need to add your let it be so.

2397
02:01:34.720 --> 02:01:36.620
So that's the first key is you say, I agree.

2398
02:01:36.620 --> 02:01:38.900
And that can be as simple as like, Lord, I agree, right?

2399
02:01:38.900 --> 02:01:42.520
The second key is you want to align yourself with the word.

2400
02:01:42.520 --> 02:01:45.740
You want to either remove any,

2401
02:01:45.740 --> 02:01:50.560
what in me needs to align to become who you say I am, right?

2402
02:01:50.560 --> 02:01:51.900
And so there's an alignment

2403
02:01:51.900 --> 02:01:54.420
and that's partly connected to preparation.

2404
02:01:55.220 --> 02:01:57.540
What in me needs to prepare or align myself

2405
02:01:57.540 --> 02:01:59.380
for the fulfillment of this word?

2406
02:01:59.380 --> 02:02:03.300
And then finally, the third key is you want to appropriate

2407
02:02:03.300 --> 02:02:04.660
or take action.

2408
02:02:04.660 --> 02:02:07.940
What's one action step that you can take

2409
02:02:07.940 --> 02:02:09.860
towards the fulfillment of that word?

2410
02:02:09.860 --> 02:02:12.180
And it can be a baby step, guys.

2411
02:02:12.180 --> 02:02:14.460
You know, it's like, you know,

2412
02:02:14.460 --> 02:02:17.500
if I was called to speak in a stadium,

2413
02:02:17.500 --> 02:02:20.260
but my baby step is I'm speaking to my small group of two,

2414
02:02:20.260 --> 02:02:22.300
like I'm learning how to speak publicly.

2415
02:02:22.300 --> 02:02:23.140
Do you understand that?

2416
02:02:23.140 --> 02:02:27.460
It's like, you're taking a definite action step

2417
02:02:27.460 --> 02:02:29.660
to prepare yourself and that shows God

2418
02:02:29.660 --> 02:02:31.420
that that's partnership.

2419
02:02:31.420 --> 02:02:32.620
Daniel said it the first night,

2420
02:02:32.620 --> 02:02:34.980
because God's value is relationship.

2421
02:02:34.980 --> 02:02:37.100
His methodology is partnership.

2422
02:02:37.100 --> 02:02:38.380
He's not gonna come,

2423
02:02:38.380 --> 02:02:40.220
he's not gonna force you to do something

2424
02:02:40.220 --> 02:02:42.140
that you're not willing to partner with.

2425
02:02:42.140 --> 02:02:45.580
But the promise is there to show you something

2426
02:02:45.580 --> 02:02:47.380
you never saw before,

2427
02:02:47.380 --> 02:02:51.140
so you can become something you never were before.

2428
02:02:51.140 --> 02:02:54.620
And so again, those three keys are really powerful

2429
02:02:54.620 --> 02:02:57.980
to start stewarding that prophetic call in your life.

2430
02:02:57.980 --> 02:03:00.100
I just want to be honest

2431
02:03:00.100 --> 02:03:02.780
that I literally got a prophetic word from Chris

2432
02:03:02.780 --> 02:03:06.620
in my early years of pastoring and I did not steward it.

2433
02:03:06.620 --> 02:03:08.580
So I just want to like,

2434
02:03:08.580 --> 02:03:10.860
I'm like a human being like all of you.

2435
02:03:10.860 --> 02:03:12.260
We are all human beings.

2436
02:03:12.260 --> 02:03:13.700
If we're talking about running a race,

2437
02:03:13.700 --> 02:03:14.940
we're all running this race.

2438
02:03:14.940 --> 02:03:17.540
We're not sitting up here like we're the experts

2439
02:03:17.540 --> 02:03:18.660
and waves, you know what I mean?

2440
02:03:18.660 --> 02:03:20.660
Like we're like, a lot of what we learned

2441
02:03:20.700 --> 02:03:22.100
is through getting it wrong.

2442
02:03:22.100 --> 02:03:22.940
Yeah.

2443
02:03:22.940 --> 02:03:24.740
And you know, I remember the Lord once said to me,

2444
02:03:24.740 --> 02:03:25.740
if you want to get it right,

2445
02:03:25.740 --> 02:03:27.980
you're gonna have to get a little wrong.

2446
02:03:27.980 --> 02:03:29.420
He said, sometimes you get a little wrong

2447
02:03:29.420 --> 02:03:30.700
to get a little righter.

2448
02:03:30.700 --> 02:03:31.540
Yeah.

2449
02:03:31.540 --> 02:03:33.300
And I got a word from Chris.

2450
02:03:33.300 --> 02:03:36.620
He didn't know my name then, he knew I was on his staff.

2451
02:03:36.620 --> 02:03:38.900
I shared a, I did a transition,

2452
02:03:38.900 --> 02:03:41.140
I did an offering at Twinview.

2453
02:03:41.140 --> 02:03:43.140
I was early in being on staff and he said,

2454
02:03:43.140 --> 02:03:44.900
I came off the stage and he said,

2455
02:03:44.900 --> 02:03:47.460
you have the gift of storytelling on your life.

2456
02:03:47.460 --> 02:03:49.500
And he said, steward 30 minutes,

2457
02:03:49.500 --> 02:03:50.340
you won't even remember this,

2458
02:03:50.340 --> 02:03:52.060
steward 30 minutes a day in the Word of God

2459
02:03:52.060 --> 02:03:54.460
and in your journal, what are you saying to you?

2460
02:03:54.460 --> 02:03:55.700
And he said, and then he said, he looked at me,

2461
02:03:55.700 --> 02:03:58.340
he said, I mean it for the sake of this movement.

2462
02:03:58.340 --> 02:04:01.340
Steward, steward for 30 minutes a day.

2463
02:04:01.340 --> 02:04:03.900
Can I tell you, I received that Word with great joy.

2464
02:04:03.900 --> 02:04:06.620
I felt so amazing for the sake of the movement.

2465
02:04:06.620 --> 02:04:07.980
You know what I mean?

2466
02:04:07.980 --> 02:04:10.780
Like 25 year old Haley for the sake, you know,

2467
02:04:10.780 --> 02:04:13.500
I was so in awe,

2468
02:04:13.500 --> 02:04:16.700
it's like I received the seed of the Word with great joy,

2469
02:04:17.580 --> 02:04:20.340
but there was competitive seeds in my heart

2470
02:04:20.340 --> 02:04:22.980
that choked the growth of that seed that said,

2471
02:04:22.980 --> 02:04:25.500
for the sake of what movement, really Haley Braun?

2472
02:04:25.500 --> 02:04:27.140
Like what movement, Bethel movement,

2473
02:04:27.140 --> 02:04:27.980
you gotta be kidding.

2474
02:04:27.980 --> 02:04:29.780
You're never gonna, you know what I mean?

2475
02:04:29.780 --> 02:04:32.340
Like all of a sudden these words of insufficiency

2476
02:04:32.340 --> 02:04:35.020
and insecurity that were in my heart,

2477
02:04:35.020 --> 02:04:36.540
really actually choked out the Word.

2478
02:04:36.540 --> 02:04:38.900
So I didn't steward 30 minutes a day

2479
02:04:38.900 --> 02:04:41.220
because I didn't believe it.

2480
02:04:41.220 --> 02:04:43.180
I didn't believe that God could use me that way.

2481
02:04:43.180 --> 02:04:45.300
But can I tell you in God's grace and mercy,

2482
02:04:46.100 --> 02:04:49.100
I feel emotional because God is so merciful.

2483
02:04:49.100 --> 02:04:50.660
And of course we wanna value,

2484
02:04:50.660 --> 02:04:52.020
we wanna value all of this.

2485
02:04:52.020 --> 02:04:54.140
We wanna value the stewardship of the Word.

2486
02:04:54.140 --> 02:04:55.860
But if you're in a position like I was,

2487
02:04:55.860 --> 02:04:57.300
I asked the Lord two years ago,

2488
02:04:57.300 --> 02:04:59.860
as I began to see, I'm speaking more and more.

2489
02:05:00.000 --> 02:05:01.600
I have no time, I have three kids,

2490
02:05:01.600 --> 02:05:03.240
I've got a ministry I'm trying to lead.

2491
02:05:03.240 --> 02:05:05.240
How do I prepare messages?

2492
02:05:05.240 --> 02:05:06.800
And then I'm remembering this Word.

2493
02:05:06.800 --> 02:05:08.320
Oh my goodness, if I'd just done

2494
02:05:08.320 --> 02:05:10.000
what Chris had told me to do,

2495
02:05:10.000 --> 02:05:12.200
I wouldn't be panicking every time I speak

2496
02:05:12.200 --> 02:05:14.800
because I haven't had time to prepare sufficiently.

2497
02:05:14.800 --> 02:05:16.160
And you know what the Lord said to me?

2498
02:05:16.160 --> 02:05:18.960
He said, my grace abounds for you, Haley.

2499
02:05:18.960 --> 02:05:21.440
And so I said, God, what is the new strategy?

2500
02:05:21.440 --> 02:05:23.480
And He gave me a new strategy.

2501
02:05:23.480 --> 02:05:24.480
According to the Word,

2502
02:05:24.480 --> 02:05:26.520
He gave me a three morning a week strategy

2503
02:05:26.520 --> 02:05:28.760
to begin to steward this Word that Chris gave me.

2504
02:05:28.840 --> 02:05:30.720
So I just wanna speak over you.

2505
02:05:30.720 --> 02:05:32.440
All of these principles are true.

2506
02:05:32.440 --> 02:05:33.920
All of them are correct.

2507
02:05:33.920 --> 02:05:35.840
However, we miss it sometimes.

2508
02:05:35.840 --> 02:05:37.760
I miss it all the time.

2509
02:05:37.760 --> 02:05:39.040
But God in His grace and mercy

2510
02:05:39.040 --> 02:05:40.400
isn't looking for perfection,

2511
02:05:40.400 --> 02:05:42.120
He's looking for yielded hearts.

2512
02:05:42.120 --> 02:05:45.560
And so, so God, we just bring these words

2513
02:05:45.560 --> 02:05:46.920
that we didn't know what to do with God.

2514
02:05:46.920 --> 02:05:49.000
We even bring the thought process

2515
02:05:49.000 --> 02:05:51.440
that maybe stole away from the beauty

2516
02:05:51.440 --> 02:05:53.600
and the power of what you spoke.

2517
02:05:53.600 --> 02:05:55.800
And God, we ask for new strategy, we do.

2518
02:05:55.800 --> 02:05:58.920
We ask for strategy for this time in this season.

2519
02:05:58.920 --> 02:06:01.280
And Lord, we're not gonna wallow in shame.

2520
02:06:01.280 --> 02:06:04.280
We're not gonna be paralysed in shame of our failure.

2521
02:06:04.280 --> 02:06:06.440
But God, we thank You that through Your redemption,

2522
02:06:06.440 --> 02:06:09.520
we can enter in to the fresh promises of the Lord.

2523
02:06:09.520 --> 02:06:12.480
And so we enter in, God, I ask for new strategy.

2524
02:06:12.480 --> 02:06:14.760
And God, I ask for the grace to step in, God,

2525
02:06:14.760 --> 02:06:17.200
where You release the Word, You release the grace.

2526
02:06:17.200 --> 02:06:19.600
And Lord, we choose to partner with the grace

2527
02:06:19.600 --> 02:06:21.400
instead of the naysaying.

2528
02:06:21.400 --> 02:06:24.240
We partner with the grace of what You are saying.

2529
02:06:24.240 --> 02:06:25.280
In Jesus' Name.

2530
02:06:25.760 --> 02:06:28.000
And I declare that you did not miss it.

2531
02:06:28.000 --> 02:06:32.600
I felt, what?

2532
02:06:32.600 --> 02:06:34.400
Which one was my miss it story?

2533
02:06:36.160 --> 02:06:38.200
I don't, okay.

2534
02:06:38.200 --> 02:06:39.040
But I just feel like,

2535
02:06:39.040 --> 02:06:40.800
I actually felt this earlier today online,

2536
02:06:40.800 --> 02:06:42.440
but like, you did not miss it.

2537
02:06:42.440 --> 02:06:44.400
Like, yes, God is kind and gracious.

2538
02:06:44.400 --> 02:06:46.640
I feel like there were words spoken over your life

2539
02:06:46.640 --> 02:06:50.040
that now as you're becoming aware of your responsibility

2540
02:06:50.040 --> 02:06:51.560
and that you didn't know back then,

2541
02:06:51.560 --> 02:06:54.200
you feel like you missed out on that promise of God.

2542
02:06:54.240 --> 02:06:55.440
And I just feel like the Lord is saying

2543
02:06:55.440 --> 02:06:57.000
He is a good and loving Father.

2544
02:06:57.000 --> 02:07:00.000
He even knew that you weren't ready to receive that seed

2545
02:07:00.000 --> 02:07:04.200
and He's bringing it back to you right now in this season.

2546
02:07:04.200 --> 02:07:06.720
So I feel like there's a fresh awakening

2547
02:07:06.720 --> 02:07:08.400
of promises in this season.

2548
02:07:08.400 --> 02:07:11.640
I see Him like stirring up or churning up the waters,

2549
02:07:11.640 --> 02:07:13.480
churning up the waters and these promises

2550
02:07:13.480 --> 02:07:16.840
that were long buried, even like from decades ago,

2551
02:07:16.840 --> 02:07:19.000
I feel like the Lord is actually bringing those

2552
02:07:19.000 --> 02:07:21.080
back to the surface and breathing new life.

2553
02:07:21.080 --> 02:07:22.240
And I just wanna say this again,

2554
02:07:22.280 --> 02:07:25.200
you are the perfect age to do everything

2555
02:07:25.200 --> 02:07:27.040
that God has called you to do.

2556
02:07:27.040 --> 02:07:29.600
Something we learned from our senior leader at the mission.

2557
02:07:29.600 --> 02:07:31.320
And I just feel like sometimes we,

2558
02:07:31.320 --> 02:07:33.240
there are some of you in here that feel like

2559
02:07:33.240 --> 02:07:36.320
you're past age, like you're past the time date

2560
02:07:36.320 --> 02:07:39.760
or the timestamp and the God is so kind and He's so good.

2561
02:07:39.760 --> 02:07:42.440
And He knows you so much better than you know yourself.

2562
02:07:42.440 --> 02:07:43.600
And I just feel like the Lord is saying

2563
02:07:43.600 --> 02:07:45.400
you did not miss it.

2564
02:07:45.400 --> 02:07:47.600
And He's bringing it back to pass.

2565
02:07:47.640 --> 02:07:50.880
And there's covering for that

2566
02:07:50.880 --> 02:07:54.720
because there are some time sensitive words.

2567
02:07:54.720 --> 02:07:58.040
And that's where maybe you're super frustrated.

2568
02:07:58.040 --> 02:08:00.800
You're like, ah, what do I do with that?

2569
02:08:00.800 --> 02:08:03.840
I'm like, well, repent.

2570
02:08:03.840 --> 02:08:07.200
Like, honestly, we didn't believe the voice of God in that,

2571
02:08:07.200 --> 02:08:09.000
but know that He's so gracious.

2572
02:08:09.000 --> 02:08:10.000
He's so loving.

2573
02:08:10.000 --> 02:08:15.000
And He always gives more opportunities for other things.

2574
02:08:15.600 --> 02:08:18.160
I, there's so many in my life

2575
02:08:18.160 --> 02:08:21.320
where they were time sensitive words.

2576
02:08:21.320 --> 02:08:24.680
And I missed the timing on that.

2577
02:08:24.680 --> 02:08:27.400
I didn't honor that time.

2578
02:08:27.400 --> 02:08:31.200
And so even there where there's some of those,

2579
02:08:31.200 --> 02:08:34.160
like God's teaching you, I would revisit.

2580
02:08:34.160 --> 02:08:36.560
Because the original question was,

2581
02:08:36.560 --> 02:08:39.160
what do I do with all of these words

2582
02:08:39.160 --> 02:08:41.400
that I feel like I haven't stewarded?

2583
02:08:41.400 --> 02:08:44.480
Well, get rid of the ones that were time sensitive

2584
02:08:44.480 --> 02:08:48.520
and that was like, don't hold yourself to that anymore

2585
02:08:48.520 --> 02:08:49.920
or punish yourself for that.

2586
02:08:49.920 --> 02:08:52.000
And then take the ones you do have

2587
02:08:52.000 --> 02:08:55.440
and then do all what these guys have been telling you to do

2588
02:08:55.440 --> 02:08:58.720
with those words, revisit them, honor them,

2589
02:08:58.720 --> 02:09:01.800
and watch the acceleration start happening.

2590
02:09:01.800 --> 02:09:03.760
You're gonna start checking the boxes off

2591
02:09:03.760 --> 02:09:05.600
of all these words.

2592
02:09:05.600 --> 02:09:09.920
And also sometimes people can give the word,

2593
02:09:09.920 --> 02:09:12.120
but it's the wrong time to give the word.

2594
02:09:12.160 --> 02:09:15.800
And my example of that is after I came back from Thailand

2595
02:09:15.800 --> 02:09:18.120
and I was in LA, a friend of mine was like,

2596
02:09:18.120 --> 02:09:18.960
oh, well, she's like,

2597
02:09:18.960 --> 02:09:21.160
I think maybe you're gonna go to BSSM.

2598
02:09:21.160 --> 02:09:23.360
And I was like, I'm never gonna go to BSSM.

2599
02:09:23.360 --> 02:09:24.600
I wanna stay in LA.

2600
02:09:24.600 --> 02:09:26.160
And like, obviously I came here,

2601
02:09:26.160 --> 02:09:27.960
I did three years of BSSM, right?

2602
02:09:27.960 --> 02:09:31.160
But like, it was just, my heart wasn't ready.

2603
02:09:31.160 --> 02:09:33.560
The word was right, but the timing was wrong.

2604
02:09:33.560 --> 02:09:35.960
So just sometimes also don't beat yourself up

2605
02:09:35.960 --> 02:09:37.400
about maybe that you missed it.

2606
02:09:37.400 --> 02:09:39.120
It just might not have been the time yet.

2607
02:09:39.120 --> 02:09:40.040
Yeah.

2608
02:09:40.040 --> 02:09:41.280
That's so great.

2609
02:09:41.280 --> 02:09:42.200
Had a couple of questions,

2610
02:09:42.200 --> 02:09:43.840
actually kind of repeat questions.

2611
02:09:43.840 --> 02:09:46.480
Can you have more than one five-fold office?

2612
02:09:49.640 --> 02:09:50.640
Chris and Dana.

2613
02:09:50.640 --> 02:09:52.560
I know, Bethany said don't ask any questions

2614
02:09:52.560 --> 02:09:53.400
that are too difficult.

2615
02:09:53.400 --> 02:09:54.640
Why are you asking the questions then?

2616
02:09:54.640 --> 02:09:56.720
I think it's a great one.

2617
02:09:56.720 --> 02:09:59.320
I think, first of all, not everybody has an office,

2618
02:09:59.320 --> 02:10:00.160
to be honest.

2619
02:10:00.000 --> 02:10:03.960
I mean, I think not, I think, but the grace is available.

2620
02:10:03.960 --> 02:10:06.680
The faithful grace is available to every believer.

2621
02:10:06.680 --> 02:10:08.600
So we can all have apostolic grace,

2622
02:10:08.600 --> 02:10:11.240
prophetic grace, evangelistic grace.

2623
02:10:11.240 --> 02:10:13.760
The office is a call and an assignment.

2624
02:10:13.760 --> 02:10:17.120
It's something that Jesus gives as a gift

2625
02:10:17.120 --> 02:10:19.760
to people that he calls.

2626
02:10:19.760 --> 02:10:22.240
And so I think that it's possible.

2627
02:10:22.240 --> 02:10:25.440
I don't know that it's likely, but it is possible.

2628
02:10:25.440 --> 02:10:29.560
To be honest, you guys, like as an office prophet,

2629
02:10:29.760 --> 02:10:32.720
I've already got so much on my plate

2630
02:10:32.720 --> 02:10:34.440
and an assignment and a lane.

2631
02:10:34.440 --> 02:10:35.560
Like I don't, I barely,

2632
02:10:35.560 --> 02:10:36.960
I don't even know that I have time to do everything

2633
02:10:36.960 --> 02:10:39.280
I'm called to do just in the office of prophet.

2634
02:10:39.280 --> 02:10:41.440
So if I'm office of teacher as well,

2635
02:10:41.440 --> 02:10:43.960
and I've got all of this over here, I mean, that's just,

2636
02:10:43.960 --> 02:10:45.440
it's, I don't know that I would have enough time,

2637
02:10:45.440 --> 02:10:49.360
but there are people that function as an apostolic prophet

2638
02:10:49.360 --> 02:10:51.720
or an app, you know, a prophetic teacher.

2639
02:10:51.720 --> 02:10:54.360
And so I think, again, it can seem confusing.

2640
02:10:54.360 --> 02:10:59.080
I think the graces do mix in with the office.

2641
02:10:59.720 --> 02:11:01.360
But as a general rule,

2642
02:11:01.360 --> 02:11:04.200
and these guys would probably add something.

2643
02:11:04.200 --> 02:11:05.360
Chris, you said you would jump up

2644
02:11:05.360 --> 02:11:06.360
if you needed to correct us.

2645
02:11:06.360 --> 02:11:09.400
I think as a rule, he's on his way.

2646
02:11:09.400 --> 02:11:10.840
I can see it.

2647
02:11:10.840 --> 02:11:12.040
Come up.

2648
02:11:12.040 --> 02:11:13.800
Ben's gonna say something.

2649
02:11:13.800 --> 02:11:15.560
Let me say this as well.

2650
02:11:15.560 --> 02:11:16.920
It's a gift of Christ.

2651
02:11:16.920 --> 02:11:19.320
The office are gifts of Christ

2652
02:11:19.320 --> 02:11:22.120
and Christ gets to do whatever he wants with those gifts

2653
02:11:22.120 --> 02:11:23.960
and give them to whoever we want.

2654
02:11:23.960 --> 02:11:25.640
Is that normal?

2655
02:11:25.640 --> 02:11:29.160
I love Chris's deal on this.

2656
02:11:29.400 --> 02:11:30.520
Could it be potential?

2657
02:11:30.520 --> 02:11:32.600
Well, Jesus modeled something

2658
02:11:32.600 --> 02:11:34.920
where there is potential for that,

2659
02:11:34.920 --> 02:11:37.000
but that was Jesus Christ as well.

2660
02:11:37.000 --> 02:11:40.240
So, but he did also say, greater works will you do.

2661
02:11:40.240 --> 02:11:43.400
So I don't know, like there's a big potential there.

2662
02:11:44.320 --> 02:11:49.320
And Chris has a great example of operating in a grace

2663
02:11:50.560 --> 02:11:52.440
that someone else, when you're connected.

2664
02:11:52.440 --> 02:11:53.760
So go ahead, Chris.

2665
02:11:55.120 --> 02:11:56.480
Sort of took it.

2666
02:11:56.480 --> 02:11:57.760
No, but tell it.

2667
02:11:58.040 --> 02:12:00.360
I mean, I don't think it's a big deal,

2668
02:12:00.360 --> 02:12:04.600
but I think the goal is for us to receive grace

2669
02:12:04.600 --> 02:12:06.600
from the five-fold ministry

2670
02:12:06.600 --> 02:12:08.760
and grace is the operational power of God.

2671
02:12:08.760 --> 02:12:10.400
And we talked about it earlier.

2672
02:12:10.400 --> 02:12:11.760
And grace has colors, right?

2673
02:12:11.760 --> 02:12:13.560
Because Romans 12 says,

2674
02:12:13.560 --> 02:12:15.160
since we have gifts that differ

2675
02:12:15.160 --> 02:12:17.200
according to the grace given to us,

2676
02:12:17.200 --> 02:12:20.320
let us each exercise them according to their faith.

2677
02:12:20.320 --> 02:12:23.360
So in Ephesians four, it says,

2678
02:12:23.360 --> 02:12:25.000
to each one of us grace was given

2679
02:12:25.000 --> 02:12:26.600
according to the measure of Christ's gift.

2680
02:12:26.600 --> 02:12:29.080
He gave some as apostles, prophets, evangelists,

2681
02:12:29.080 --> 02:12:30.680
pastors and teachers.

2682
02:12:30.680 --> 02:12:35.000
So what do the five-fold ministry equip you with?

2683
02:12:35.000 --> 02:12:36.760
By the way, this is all in your manual.

2684
02:12:36.760 --> 02:12:38.000
What do they equip you with?

2685
02:12:38.000 --> 02:12:39.000
Grace.

2686
02:12:39.000 --> 02:12:40.000
What does grace do?

2687
02:12:40.000 --> 02:12:42.720
It gives you different kinds of gifts.

2688
02:12:42.720 --> 02:12:45.360
So if you come to a pastor,

2689
02:12:45.360 --> 02:12:48.160
if you're operating under a pastor,

2690
02:12:48.160 --> 02:12:50.040
you're gonna receive pastoral grace.

2691
02:12:51.000 --> 02:12:52.840
If you operate under a prophet,

2692
02:12:52.840 --> 02:12:55.200
you're gonna receive prophet grace, right?

2693
02:12:55.240 --> 02:12:58.720
And that grace is gonna give you prophetic gifts.

2694
02:12:58.720 --> 02:13:01.560
The pastor grace is gonna give you pastoral gifts.

2695
02:13:01.560 --> 02:13:05.080
The apostolic grace is gonna give you apostolic grace.

2696
02:13:05.080 --> 02:13:06.800
And the goal isn't for us to be

2697
02:13:06.800 --> 02:13:09.720
the apostle, prophet, evangelist, pastor, teacher.

2698
02:13:09.720 --> 02:13:11.360
The goal is for us to be equipped

2699
02:13:11.360 --> 02:13:13.360
by all the five-fold ministry.

2700
02:13:13.360 --> 02:13:16.200
Because if you read the Ephesians four passage,

2701
02:13:16.200 --> 02:13:18.720
it's talking about that the body should be equipped

2702
02:13:18.720 --> 02:13:22.080
with all five graces so that we can operate

2703
02:13:22.080 --> 02:13:24.880
as if we are an apostle, prophet, evangelist,

2704
02:13:24.880 --> 02:13:26.160
pastor, and teacher.

2705
02:13:26.160 --> 02:13:27.840
Not because it's our call,

2706
02:13:27.840 --> 02:13:31.120
but because it's the grace of God flowing through us.

2707
02:13:31.120 --> 02:13:34.400
And so, just to reiterate, again,

2708
02:13:34.400 --> 02:13:35.880
this is also in your manual,

2709
02:13:35.880 --> 02:13:38.920
but we really want you to read the manuals.

2710
02:13:38.920 --> 02:13:39.880
Yeah.

2711
02:13:39.880 --> 02:13:42.840
Because two-thirds of what's in that manual,

2712
02:13:42.840 --> 02:13:44.400
you haven't got yet.

2713
02:13:44.400 --> 02:13:45.240
Yeah.

2714
02:13:45.240 --> 02:13:49.280
So, where was I going?

2715
02:13:49.280 --> 02:13:53.280
So, the grace of God that's in apostle,

2716
02:13:53.280 --> 02:13:55.240
prophet, evangelist, pastor, teacher

2717
02:13:55.240 --> 02:13:57.040
is completely available for you.

2718
02:13:57.040 --> 02:13:59.280
But it takes three things to have a ministry.

2719
02:13:59.280 --> 02:14:02.160
A calling, a gifting, and an anointing.

2720
02:14:02.160 --> 02:14:04.280
Your calling gives you your identity.

2721
02:14:04.280 --> 02:14:05.680
Your gifting gives you your ability,

2722
02:14:05.680 --> 02:14:08.040
and your anointing gives you your purpose.

2723
02:14:08.040 --> 02:14:12.520
So, the question is, can you have more than one calling?

2724
02:14:12.520 --> 02:14:14.080
Everybody has more than one calling

2725
02:14:14.080 --> 02:14:16.640
because many of you are mothers.

2726
02:14:16.640 --> 02:14:18.760
That's not just something you do,

2727
02:14:18.960 --> 02:14:21.720
it's something you are, right?

2728
02:14:21.720 --> 02:14:25.280
So, the question is, can you be an apostle and a prophet?

2729
02:14:25.280 --> 02:14:27.200
Can you be a apostle and a teacher?

2730
02:14:28.880 --> 02:14:31.200
My thought is, probably you're not.

2731
02:14:31.200 --> 02:14:33.120
Probably you have a single call,

2732
02:14:33.120 --> 02:14:35.960
if you're even called to the five-fold ministry.

2733
02:14:35.960 --> 02:14:37.000
Probably.

2734
02:14:37.000 --> 02:14:39.240
But it's not a point of argument.

2735
02:14:39.240 --> 02:14:42.720
The real value in the five-fold ministry

2736
02:14:42.720 --> 02:14:44.480
is not that you're walking around like,

2737
02:14:44.480 --> 02:14:46.360
I'm a teacher and a prophet.

2738
02:14:46.360 --> 02:14:48.880
I'm a prophet who teaches.

2739
02:14:48.880 --> 02:14:50.680
I also operate apostolically,

2740
02:14:50.680 --> 02:14:53.000
probably more than I operate prophetically,

2741
02:14:53.000 --> 02:14:56.360
but it's because I'm hooked up to an apostle

2742
02:14:56.360 --> 02:14:57.920
who pours into my life.

2743
02:14:57.920 --> 02:15:00.040
So, I can operate the same way.

2744
02:15:00.000 --> 02:15:02.760
that he operates, not because I'm an apostle,

2745
02:15:02.760 --> 02:15:04.520
because the Lord has never privately

2746
02:15:04.520 --> 02:15:06.440
ever called me an apostle.

2747
02:15:06.440 --> 02:15:08.160
But you know, I'll finish with this.

2748
02:15:08.160 --> 02:15:11.560
In Weaverville, sometimes you would buy land

2749
02:15:11.560 --> 02:15:12.920
and you'd go to build a house on it,

2750
02:15:12.920 --> 02:15:15.200
you can't get water on your land.

2751
02:15:15.200 --> 02:15:16.960
And so you would go to your neighbor

2752
02:15:16.960 --> 02:15:18.720
who maybe has a great well,

2753
02:15:18.720 --> 02:15:20.040
and you'd pay a small fee,

2754
02:15:20.040 --> 02:15:22.080
or sometimes he'd even do it for free,

2755
02:15:22.080 --> 02:15:24.640
and he would say, yeah, you can tap into my well

2756
02:15:24.640 --> 02:15:26.040
if he has a big enough well.

2757
02:15:26.040 --> 02:15:27.980
Well, if you come to my house

2758
02:15:28.020 --> 02:15:30.140
and I've tapped into my neighbor's well,

2759
02:15:30.140 --> 02:15:31.120
you don't know that.

2760
02:15:31.120 --> 02:15:33.140
All you know is you got water to drink

2761
02:15:33.140 --> 02:15:34.740
and a shower to take.

2762
02:15:34.740 --> 02:15:36.820
It doesn't matter, as long as I have a relationship

2763
02:15:36.820 --> 02:15:39.300
with my neighbor, that the water's not coming

2764
02:15:39.300 --> 02:15:40.260
from my property.

2765
02:15:40.260 --> 02:15:41.100
That's great.

2766
02:15:41.100 --> 02:15:42.540
And I think it's a great illustration

2767
02:15:42.540 --> 02:15:45.340
is what happens when we tap into the family of God

2768
02:15:45.340 --> 02:15:48.300
and all the graces of God are flowing through us,

2769
02:15:48.300 --> 02:15:50.580
even though they're not resident in me,

2770
02:15:50.580 --> 02:15:53.420
they're actually coming from a relationship

2771
02:15:53.420 --> 02:15:55.300
that I have in the body of Christ.

2772
02:15:55.300 --> 02:15:57.680
And I think, ultimately, that's even better

2773
02:15:58.380 --> 02:16:00.520
than do I have all the five full callings?

2774
02:16:00.520 --> 02:16:01.360
Yeah.

2775
02:16:01.360 --> 02:16:02.200
So that's my opinion.

2776
02:16:02.200 --> 02:16:03.040
That's good.

2777
02:16:03.040 --> 02:16:03.880
Thanks, Chris.

2778
02:16:03.880 --> 02:16:08.080
We just have a few more minutes.

2779
02:16:08.080 --> 02:16:10.240
I just want to ask a fun question that we were asked.

2780
02:16:10.240 --> 02:16:12.280
Ben, but I want to kind of broaden it a little bit.

2781
02:16:12.280 --> 02:16:14.360
Ben, earlier you said that you could perceive

2782
02:16:14.360 --> 02:16:15.880
an angel behind you.

2783
02:16:15.880 --> 02:16:18.280
The person asked, how did you know there was an angel?

2784
02:16:18.280 --> 02:16:20.000
I would love for us as a panel,

2785
02:16:20.000 --> 02:16:23.080
maybe just to talk about how we perceive

2786
02:16:23.080 --> 02:16:25.280
things in the spirit, how we perceive the angelic

2787
02:16:25.280 --> 02:16:28.440
and the movement of the spirit, just personally.

2788
02:16:28.440 --> 02:16:30.480
Yeah, personally for me,

2789
02:16:30.480 --> 02:16:33.879
that came through practice and repetition.

2790
02:16:33.879 --> 02:16:38.160
So our skin is our largest sense organ on our body.

2791
02:16:38.160 --> 02:16:43.160
And a lot of times we have sensations in our body

2792
02:16:43.160 --> 02:16:47.240
that cannot be quantified through the natural.

2793
02:16:47.240 --> 02:16:52.240
So if I walk in the room and the temperature's 105 outside

2794
02:16:52.600 --> 02:16:56.400
and it's 53 in the room, I might get the chills.

2795
02:16:56.400 --> 02:16:58.160
Okay, that's natural.

2796
02:16:59.200 --> 02:17:02.840
But if I walk in and it's the same exact temperature

2797
02:17:02.840 --> 02:17:06.280
and I now get the chills, okay, what is that?

2798
02:17:06.280 --> 02:17:07.639
And I love those questions.

2799
02:17:07.639 --> 02:17:09.600
Remember, God, what are you doing?

2800
02:17:09.600 --> 02:17:10.799
And how do I partner with it?

2801
02:17:10.799 --> 02:17:12.680
What am I perceiving, God?

2802
02:17:12.680 --> 02:17:14.240
What am I feeling?

2803
02:17:14.240 --> 02:17:18.639
And what I have is through practice,

2804
02:17:18.639 --> 02:17:21.879
I get localized sensations in my body.

2805
02:17:22.520 --> 02:17:26.080
Maybe it's on my ear, a little prick or a tingle.

2806
02:17:26.080 --> 02:17:27.799
Maybe it's in the back of my head.

2807
02:17:27.799 --> 02:17:30.120
Maybe it's a brush against my face.

2808
02:17:30.120 --> 02:17:33.120
All I can say is maybe it feels like feathers

2809
02:17:33.120 --> 02:17:34.840
going across your face.

2810
02:17:34.840 --> 02:17:39.400
Those things I've learned, oh, most of the time,

2811
02:17:39.400 --> 02:17:41.280
those are angels.

2812
02:17:41.280 --> 02:17:43.760
And then I ask, okay, what are you here for?

2813
02:17:43.760 --> 02:17:45.920
Is there something specific?

2814
02:17:45.920 --> 02:17:48.280
Because they're sent to serve those

2815
02:17:48.280 --> 02:17:50.280
who would inherit eternal life.

2816
02:17:50.280 --> 02:17:51.400
That's what scripture says.

2817
02:17:51.920 --> 02:17:54.480
And so I'm like, okay, how do I partner with that more?

2818
02:17:54.480 --> 02:17:56.719
If my whole face starts burning,

2819
02:17:57.760 --> 02:18:00.639
that for me, in my experience,

2820
02:18:00.639 --> 02:18:02.799
is Holy Spirit has shown up in power.

2821
02:18:04.040 --> 02:18:06.240
And then so, yes, he's in us.

2822
02:18:06.240 --> 02:18:07.360
And I love Daniel's word.

2823
02:18:07.360 --> 02:18:08.760
We need a greater awareness.

2824
02:18:08.760 --> 02:18:12.600
But there are times where he actually manifests himself

2825
02:18:12.600 --> 02:18:13.600
in a unique way.

2826
02:18:13.600 --> 02:18:17.959
And usually that comes with a whole face burn on me.

2827
02:18:17.959 --> 02:18:19.400
And that's Ben Armstrong.

2828
02:18:19.440 --> 02:18:21.600
You need to figure it out for you.

2829
02:18:23.040 --> 02:18:25.440
Whose whole face is burning now?

2830
02:18:25.440 --> 02:18:26.559
Right now?

2831
02:18:26.559 --> 02:18:27.400
Because mine is.

2832
02:18:27.400 --> 02:18:28.320
Anyone else's face burning?

2833
02:18:28.320 --> 02:18:29.719
Raise your hand up high.

2834
02:18:29.719 --> 02:18:31.160
And there may be some online too.

2835
02:18:31.160 --> 02:18:32.000
Good.

2836
02:18:32.000 --> 02:18:32.840
Oh, thank you.

2837
02:18:32.840 --> 02:18:33.680
Thanks, God.

2838
02:18:33.680 --> 02:18:34.520
Just say, thanks, God.

2839
02:18:34.520 --> 02:18:35.520
Ask for more.

2840
02:18:35.520 --> 02:18:36.360
Thanks, yeah.

2841
02:18:38.680 --> 02:18:40.080
Okay.

2842
02:18:40.080 --> 02:18:45.080
So sometimes I see and sometimes I feel.

2843
02:18:45.680 --> 02:18:47.600
I like to say I'm a part-time seer,

2844
02:18:47.600 --> 02:18:49.680
part-time feeler, full-time party.

2845
02:18:55.200 --> 02:18:56.559
Now, when you say see,

2846
02:18:56.559 --> 02:18:59.200
are you saying you see with your natural physical eyes

2847
02:18:59.200 --> 02:19:00.040
the spirit realm?

2848
02:19:00.040 --> 02:19:02.879
Are you seeing internally, externally?

2849
02:19:02.879 --> 02:19:04.799
So I do both, yeah.

2850
02:19:04.799 --> 02:19:07.719
So sometimes I, those are my favorite.

2851
02:19:07.719 --> 02:19:10.200
So sometimes I do see with my natural eyes.

2852
02:19:11.400 --> 02:19:13.120
But there was a period of time where I was just,

2853
02:19:13.120 --> 02:19:15.200
I was new and I was so excited about that

2854
02:19:15.200 --> 02:19:19.000
that I actually didn't have a value for internal seeing.

2855
02:19:19.000 --> 02:19:20.719
And guess who shut that down?

2856
02:19:21.760 --> 02:19:23.360
And then he started teaching me.

2857
02:19:23.360 --> 02:19:25.680
And then I discovered like seeing internally,

2858
02:19:25.680 --> 02:19:27.600
which looks like in your mind's eye,

2859
02:19:28.799 --> 02:19:31.120
actually takes more faith, right?

2860
02:19:31.120 --> 02:19:32.639
And the more faith we build,

2861
02:19:32.639 --> 02:19:34.440
like we can move mountains, right?

2862
02:19:34.440 --> 02:19:36.600
So then I actually grew like, and it was fun.

2863
02:19:36.600 --> 02:19:38.040
It was like testing, like, okay,

2864
02:19:38.040 --> 02:19:41.680
I think I see in the spirit that there's an angel over here.

2865
02:19:41.680 --> 02:19:43.840
I'm gonna go stand over here and see what happens, right?

2866
02:19:43.879 --> 02:19:45.760
And so, and I was just kind of like exploring

2867
02:19:45.760 --> 02:19:48.480
and keeping track of how that worked.

2868
02:19:48.480 --> 02:19:49.920
And then for feeling,

2869
02:19:51.240 --> 02:19:52.800
I tried to explain this to my mom once

2870
02:19:52.800 --> 02:19:55.160
and she's like, don't say this publicly.

2871
02:19:55.160 --> 02:19:57.720
But she was like, my mom's, but like,

2872
02:19:57.720 --> 02:20:00.000
the only way I can describe it is.

2873
02:20:00.000 --> 02:20:03.460
Sometimes I will feel on my body, it feels almost like,

2874
02:20:03.460 --> 02:20:05.200
I always say it feels like a laser,

2875
02:20:05.200 --> 02:20:07.360
but I have never experienced a laser on my body.

2876
02:20:07.360 --> 02:20:08.800
I don't know why I think that.

2877
02:20:08.800 --> 02:20:12.480
And so I will feel it and tangibly,

2878
02:20:12.480 --> 02:20:15.080
not like a, like it's a tangible touch.

2879
02:20:15.080 --> 02:20:18.220
And sometimes I can feel them touching me.

2880
02:20:18.220 --> 02:20:22.340
And for whatever reason, I often feel stuff on my head.

2881
02:20:23.560 --> 02:20:27.000
And so sometimes I'm like, are you praying for me?

2882
02:20:27.000 --> 02:20:28.960
And so I've had experiences in that,

2883
02:20:29.640 --> 02:20:31.040
but then if I'm feeling something on my head,

2884
02:20:31.040 --> 02:20:33.000
I'm like, should I go pray for someone's mind right now?

2885
02:20:33.000 --> 02:20:34.360
Should I go pray?

2886
02:20:34.360 --> 02:20:39.360
So I kind of just follow the trail and see where it leads.

2887
02:20:40.360 --> 02:20:42.480
When you're in community like this,

2888
02:20:42.480 --> 02:20:46.760
we have involuntary seers and you can test

2889
02:20:46.760 --> 02:20:49.300
what you're feeling with what they're seeing.

2890
02:20:49.300 --> 02:20:50.380
Is that accurate?

2891
02:20:50.380 --> 02:20:52.000
And if you do that over time,

2892
02:20:52.000 --> 02:20:55.800
it actually creates trust for what you're perceiving

2893
02:20:55.800 --> 02:20:56.920
in those moments.

2894
02:20:56.920 --> 02:20:59.840
Yeah, I wanna say something about that.

2895
02:20:59.840 --> 02:21:01.240
I used to have this thing,

2896
02:21:01.240 --> 02:21:03.240
and I wonder if other people do too,

2897
02:21:03.240 --> 02:21:05.000
where when I would first wake up,

2898
02:21:05.000 --> 02:21:08.440
so I'm asleep, I wake up, my eyes would be open

2899
02:21:08.440 --> 02:21:11.080
and I would like see the room I'm in,

2900
02:21:11.080 --> 02:21:13.440
but then I would see other things

2901
02:21:13.440 --> 02:21:15.240
in the room with me, right?

2902
02:21:15.240 --> 02:21:17.940
And I remember I went to my first school of the prophets

2903
02:21:17.940 --> 02:21:19.440
and I asked Dano this question.

2904
02:21:19.440 --> 02:21:23.000
I was like, is it spirituality or is it science?

2905
02:21:23.000 --> 02:21:24.960
Like, am I still dreaming

2906
02:21:24.960 --> 02:21:27.240
and my brain doesn't know my eyes are awake?

2907
02:21:27.240 --> 02:21:28.960
And so he said, oh, this is happening.

2908
02:21:28.960 --> 02:21:30.640
There's something inside of you

2909
02:21:30.640 --> 02:21:33.720
that's popping off in an involuntary state.

2910
02:21:33.720 --> 02:21:36.600
So then I started recognizing it and praying for it

2911
02:21:36.600 --> 02:21:39.920
to grow when I'm in a voluntary state, yeah.

2912
02:21:39.920 --> 02:21:42.760
So if you have that happen, I think it's a sign to you,

2913
02:21:42.760 --> 02:21:45.520
like there's something in you, right?

2914
02:21:45.520 --> 02:21:49.160
And so you can cultivate that and partner with God for more.

2915
02:21:49.160 --> 02:21:50.960
Yeah, and I just wanna touch on that

2916
02:21:50.960 --> 02:21:51.960
because you just mentioned that.

2917
02:21:51.960 --> 02:21:53.360
So for those of you guys who are like, wow,

2918
02:21:53.360 --> 02:21:55.280
I would love to experience this.

2919
02:21:55.280 --> 02:21:59.360
I mean, I'm not like a big mystical experiencer.

2920
02:21:59.360 --> 02:22:00.880
I have had some mystical encounters.

2921
02:22:00.880 --> 02:22:02.400
I think the strongest way I would feel,

2922
02:22:02.400 --> 02:22:05.400
I feel it, especially when I'm in worship.

2923
02:22:05.400 --> 02:22:07.800
It feels like someone's standing behind me, you know?

2924
02:22:07.800 --> 02:22:10.640
And it's almost like there's that vacuum of sound or air

2925
02:22:10.640 --> 02:22:11.640
and you kind of look, look,

2926
02:22:11.640 --> 02:22:12.480
you guys know what I'm saying?

2927
02:22:12.480 --> 02:22:13.400
Like when there feels like there,

2928
02:22:13.400 --> 02:22:14.920
and you look behind and there's no one there.

2929
02:22:14.920 --> 02:22:17.920
And so I usually am like, oh, there's an angel next to me.

2930
02:22:17.920 --> 02:22:19.760
And one of the things that I've learned

2931
02:22:20.360 --> 02:22:24.200
from Dan and Chris, it's like out of Proverbs 3, 5, and 6,

2932
02:22:24.200 --> 02:22:26.960
right, trust in the Lord with all your heart

2933
02:22:26.960 --> 02:22:29.080
and lean not on your own understanding.

2934
02:22:29.080 --> 02:22:31.200
In all your ways, acknowledge him

2935
02:22:31.200 --> 02:22:32.560
and he will direct your path.

2936
02:22:32.560 --> 02:22:37.040
And so the key to growing or accelerating your ability,

2937
02:22:37.040 --> 02:22:37.960
because can I just tell you,

2938
02:22:37.960 --> 02:22:40.120
we are created and hardwired to experience God

2939
02:22:40.120 --> 02:22:42.240
in every broadband, okay?

2940
02:22:42.240 --> 02:22:45.600
Some people, it is their primary or their default,

2941
02:22:45.600 --> 02:22:47.760
but you can also grow in those ways

2942
02:22:47.760 --> 02:22:49.560
because you also have eyes and ears.

2943
02:22:50.320 --> 02:22:51.200
You know, the skin.

2944
02:22:51.200 --> 02:22:52.840
And so we're actually created to hear God

2945
02:22:52.840 --> 02:22:55.000
on the full broadband of his voice.

2946
02:22:55.000 --> 02:22:57.640
And so one of the keys to growing in this

2947
02:22:57.640 --> 02:23:02.120
is to acknowledge him when you feel something

2948
02:23:02.120 --> 02:23:04.880
or see something, or even if it's like you said,

2949
02:23:04.880 --> 02:23:05.720
you woke up and you're like,

2950
02:23:05.720 --> 02:23:08.440
you saw these little, you know, other things in the room.

2951
02:23:08.440 --> 02:23:10.000
Okay, we're learning now.

2952
02:23:10.000 --> 02:23:11.440
First, acknowledge the Lord.

2953
02:23:11.440 --> 02:23:12.840
Thank you, Lord.

2954
02:23:12.840 --> 02:23:15.800
I don't know what I'm seeing, but I'm seeing something.

2955
02:23:15.800 --> 02:23:16.640
Thank you, Lord.

2956
02:23:16.640 --> 02:23:18.920
I'm feeling something behind me.

2957
02:23:19.080 --> 02:23:20.520
I feel like this is you.

2958
02:23:20.520 --> 02:23:22.280
And then you just kind of wait there.

2959
02:23:22.280 --> 02:23:24.160
You acknowledge him, you thank him,

2960
02:23:24.160 --> 02:23:26.360
and that opens up the gateway of faith.

2961
02:23:26.360 --> 02:23:30.560
And then it's often like what you behold gets magnified.

2962
02:23:30.560 --> 02:23:32.160
Often that will get clearer.

2963
02:23:32.160 --> 02:23:36.240
That will accelerate your ability to discern his presence

2964
02:23:36.240 --> 02:23:39.000
when he's speaking in other ways in the future.

2965
02:23:39.000 --> 02:23:40.560
That's good, that's good.

2966
02:23:40.560 --> 02:23:43.840
Shameless plug for BSSM right now.

2967
02:23:43.840 --> 02:23:47.280
I literally came as a, I had no clue what I'm doing,

2968
02:23:47.280 --> 02:23:49.520
and BSSM was such a beautiful environment

2969
02:23:49.520 --> 02:23:52.800
for me to learn and grow in the safety of community.

2970
02:23:52.800 --> 02:23:55.800
I'm not gonna dive into how I see or perceive.

2971
02:23:55.800 --> 02:23:57.040
I'll get to teach a little bit later,

2972
02:23:57.040 --> 02:23:57.880
and maybe I'll share there,

2973
02:23:57.880 --> 02:24:00.040
but I wanna tell you the safest place

2974
02:24:00.040 --> 02:24:02.840
to learn how God speaks is in a healthy community

2975
02:24:02.840 --> 02:24:04.620
where they value the move of God,

2976
02:24:04.620 --> 02:24:07.200
but they also tell you the truth and keep you in,

2977
02:24:07.200 --> 02:24:08.640
keep the riverbanks by that river,

2978
02:24:08.640 --> 02:24:11.120
let that river flow powerfully in a direction.

2979
02:24:11.120 --> 02:24:13.200
I used to skip along the back of this room in school

2980
02:24:13.200 --> 02:24:15.520
if I felt depression, because I was just practising.

2981
02:24:15.520 --> 02:24:16.340
I feel heaviness.

2982
02:24:16.340 --> 02:24:17.180
How do I release joy?

2983
02:24:18.020 --> 02:24:18.860
I was just asking the Lord,

2984
02:24:18.860 --> 02:24:20.620
and it taught me so much on how to train my senses,

2985
02:24:20.620 --> 02:24:22.540
and I'm just so grateful for school.

2986
02:24:22.540 --> 02:24:24.580
And I'm like, if you are sitting in this room

2987
02:24:24.580 --> 02:24:26.380
and you're thinking, should I do school?

2988
02:24:26.380 --> 02:24:28.780
I wanna tell you, like, and I'm not a salesman.

2989
02:24:28.780 --> 02:24:30.460
I'm horrible at selling things,

2990
02:24:30.460 --> 02:24:31.740
but if something changes your life,

2991
02:24:31.740 --> 02:24:32.740
you have to share about it.

2992
02:24:32.740 --> 02:24:36.180
And this is where I learnt, BSSM was where I learnt it,

2993
02:24:36.180 --> 02:24:37.880
and it was such a powerful school.

2994
02:24:38.860 --> 02:24:40.820
Yeah, Ben, will you pray for us?

2995
02:24:40.820 --> 02:24:42.160
Stand to your feet.

2996
02:24:42.160 --> 02:24:44.340
Even as we were talking about the angelic,

2997
02:24:44.620 --> 02:24:48.340
I felt a sensation on my right eyelid,

2998
02:24:48.340 --> 02:24:53.140
and instantly in my mind's eye, I saw a picture,

2999
02:24:53.140 --> 02:24:56.380
and I saw an angel with that,

3000
02:24:57.540 --> 02:24:59.340
you know, like when you're at the eye doctor

3001
02:24:59.340 --> 02:25:00.180
and they go, lens,

3002
02:25:00.000 --> 02:25:01.600
Lens one, lens two.

3003
02:25:01.600 --> 02:25:03.400
Lens one, lens two.

3004
02:25:03.400 --> 02:25:08.280
And he's giving, the angel came with eyes to see.

3005
02:25:08.280 --> 02:25:12.400
So a lot of times when you see what the angel is doing

3006
02:25:12.400 --> 02:25:16.040
or wearing or it's setting,

3007
02:25:16.040 --> 02:25:19.680
that actually tells you what function they're there for.

3008
02:25:19.680 --> 02:25:23.280
And so God, would you release eyes to see?

3009
02:25:23.280 --> 02:25:27.520
We wanna see greater and more clearer

3010
02:25:27.520 --> 02:25:29.520
in the spiritual realm.

3011
02:25:29.800 --> 02:25:32.520
With our physical eyes, our waking eyes,

3012
02:25:32.520 --> 02:25:36.040
our spiritual eyes, God, help us perceive better

3013
02:25:36.040 --> 02:25:38.960
what you're doing and help us to partner with that.

3014
02:25:38.960 --> 02:25:42.640
In Jesus' name, amen, amen.

3015
02:25:42.640 --> 02:25:45.960
Lunch break, be back at 2 p.m.

3016
02:25:45.960 --> 02:25:49.700
We are gonna give away some really great prizes.

3017
02:25:49.700 --> 02:25:54.700
And for those of you that have lunch tickets,

3018
02:25:55.840 --> 02:25:57.360
your lunches are in the back.

3019
02:25:57.360 --> 02:25:59.120
Bless you guys, we'll see you soon.

3020
02:25:59.520 --> 02:26:01.320
Testing.