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Hello, everybody, and welcome to the final day of School of the
Prophets. I cannot believe it's the final day. Like, where did
this whole week go? It's crazy. Flew by. Yeah, it felt like the
first day was like a full day and long. I was like, well,
there was like three days in one. And then all of a sudden
felt like the days just went so far. Flew. Well, you guys, if
this is your first time to Coffee Chats, that's where you
are. This is our segment Coffee Chats, where we get the
privilege to sit down with our speakers of School of the
Prophets. It's been so fun. And like usual, you can put your
name in your little box so we can see who you are. And let us
know in the chat where you're tuning in from. It's always fun
to see where everyone is from and joining us from all around
the world. So fun. Reese, I was just telling Haley that you were
on the call the other night, and we found out that you are like
16 or 17 years old. And I just have to say that is amazing. I
wish I was doing this at 16 or 17 years old. Look at that
revival shirt. Come on. This is what we live for. It's amazing.
So good. And Kath, always on the call. I love it. Oh, Stacy, too.
Hi, guys. So fun. Oh, my gosh. And Little Babes is joining us
today, too. Sweet. Well, Haley, how are you this morning?
I'm fantastic. I'm ready. Honestly, my favorite part is
impartation. So I'm so ready for that. I had a man last night
ask me in the coffee shop, what's been kind of the
highlight of the conference for me? And I'm like, when I just
see people encounter the Holy Spirit, be that through a
teaching, be that through prayer, be that through like
some kind of revelation that they receive that I just want to
see God transform lives. And I think so. I'm so excited for
impartation because I know that that's a really powerful time.
And you know what? I helped pioneer our online school, our
BSM online school the last two years, and I've seen God
radically touch people online. And I didn't think that that
could happen. If I'm honest, I thought like, you know, maybe
there'd be a measure. But the level of faith that it actually
requires to do a school like this online actually creates a
pull in the Spirit. And it actually like, I've actually
seen sometimes greater outbreak and greater healings online
that I have in person at times because of the level of faith
that it requires to receive. And so I just want to encourage you
guys to get ready. God's going to do something powerful. And
sometimes it's like sometimes you receive the power in the
moment, and sometimes you receive a seed. And I just want
to encourage you, like whether it's a power encounter or you're
receiving a seed, take that and nurture it because I believe
that it's really going to bring transformation.
So good. I love that. It's awesome. So fun. We've had a
great time with our online community this year. It's been
amazing. So I'm going to ask you a few questions and we can kind
of get going. And then if you feel any led to pray for
anybody, there's also room for that this morning.
Wonderful.
So first question for you. I'm curious, what was one of your
biggest takeaways this week as even just a speaker of the
conference?
Biggest takeaway? That's such a good question. You know, I think
for me personally, takeaway wise, I've been thinking about
reformation. I think it's just caused me to think a lot more
about reformation and about what I'm called to reform. You know,
I think as a speaker and a teacher here in our environment,
you're often trying to bring relevance to your entire
audience. But there comes a time when you have to begin to think,
well, what am I called to reform? And I think for me, just
the recognition of my passion for the church. I'm really
passionate about the church. And I know, you know, we're trying
to encourage people outside the sphere of the church. And we're
trying to, because I think a lot of people think only ministry
can happen in the church. And yet, I actually feel like
there's a reformation to happen for the bride. I hear a lot of
people talking about how church as we know it is over. And it
doesn't always sound positive. But I actually think that we're
coming to a more unified and community based church
environment. And I think that's where you see revival. Revival
happens in family. And I think there in the, obviously the
negative side of COVID was the disconnection of people. But I
think the positive side of COVID is that we recognize we need
and I think it's in true connection
that we see a powerful outpouring of the Spirit.
And so that's been probably one of my personal takeaways
from the conference.
It's been profound, it's been amazing.
It's obvious you have such a heart for the church,
for the Bridegroom,
and I was just even thinking of your message yesterday.
I have had the privilege of being under your leadership.
I was a student when Hayley was overseeing
the second year of School of Ministry, so it's amazing.
But when you were speaking yesterday,
I don't even think you were speaking on this,
but I just realized, I'm like, Hayley carries something
that even when she's not speaking,
there's this feeling in the room of it doesn't matter.
All these big encounters
and all these huge prophetic things
and all these visions we might have,
all those things are amazing,
but it would be nothing without Him, right?
And I feel like you just take back,
you strip away all these things
that can kind of feel like accessories,
and it comes back and you just go,
oh my gosh, this is what's important.
This is what it's all about, right?
Did anyone else feel that when Hayley was speaking yesterday?
Can you give us a wave?
Yeah, so, so true.
I just felt so encountered by Holy Spirit
and was just, just fell in love with Him.
I was just like, it's so true, nothing matters.
It's all about you, it's all about you.
And so I am curious for all these prophetic reformers
that are with us today,
how would you encourage them to grow
in greater intimacy with the Bridegroom?
Yeah, that's a great question.
I think, oh, I get really emotional
because I think that you have a friend
and His name is the Holy Spirit.
And there's nothing that you have to figure out
in the Christian life without Him.
And the Holy Spirit is not a thing,
He's not a feeling, He's a person.
And He wants to meet with you,
and He wants to reveal Jesus.
He wants to glorify Jesus.
He wants to reveal the thoughts of the Father to you.
He wants to reveal the glorious inheritance
that you have as a believer,
which is incomparably great power for those who believe.
Like He doesn't want you to feel like you're under,
He wants you to feel like you're the victor
that you are in Christ Jesus.
He wants you to be comforted.
He wants you to be assisted.
He wants to be the very present help in time of need.
And so I think for me, it's so true.
I was actually thinking when you were talking
about takeaway for the conference,
but it's always quite, I always make it simple.
I'm like, Reformation is simple.
We have the spirit of Reformation inside of us.
And I think sometimes we can overcomplicate it
of having to take mountains
and having to be effective and influential,
and we can feel a lot of pressure.
And I think, you know, sometimes we need
a little bit of pressure to push us.
But actually really, if we can get into contact
with the truth and the reality of the power of God
that has been poured out for the church,
you begin to realise that actually
you don't have to be enough.
That's one of the greatest things I ever learned
was I don't have to be enough.
I spent a whole lot of my life
feeling like I wasn't enough.
And then I realised I don't have to be enough
because God is enough in me.
I'm the perfect vessel for the sufficiency
of God to work through.
And so I don't, and in the grand scope of eternity,
how many people you impact is not what God's looking for.
He's looking for faith and obedience.
And that affects eternity.
And we're gonna spend so much more time
in eternity than here.
And so I wanna make a mark on eternity with my life.
I wanna make a mark on a generation.
And that's not always seen, but it's felt.
And so I think for me, that's what I wanna encourage
you guys in is that, like, as you desire intimacy
with the Lord, you have the Holy Spirit to draw you in.
And I think intimacy happens best when there's no pressure.
I don't know if you've ever, you know,
I remember early days of dating when you feel
a lot of pressure to know the outcome,
like, are we gonna get married?
Is this, you know, you spend your first coffee day
trying to figure out if you're gonna get married.
I'm like, there's nothing that kills passion like pressure.
Right.
And when we feel a lot of pressure and shame,
and I'm not enough, and I'm not good enough,
and I don't have enough, our passion and our desire
for intimacy doesn't rise.
We begin to strive.
And love doesn't happen in the context of striving.
Love happens in the context of peace and safety.
So good.
And so I think it's really important
that as you pursue intimacy, you have to know
that He's pursuing you.
He's after you, and He's gonna make a way
where there's no way.
And so I think coming to that place where it's like,
I'm just making myself available to you, God.
And I'm coming after you, not because you're running away,
but because you are present,
and you are reachable, and you are here.
Yes, that is so good.
How about you pray that over our people?
Thanks, God.
I just wanna say something quickly before I pray.
I was invited, I don't know if you know who Sid Roth is,
but last minute I was invited to go and film with Sid Roth.
And honestly, totally out of my depth.
And I asked the Lord, you know, am I ready for this?
Should I do this?
Is this just a vote of confidence from you?
Kind of hoping that it will.
It was just a vote of confidence.
I said, but God, if you want me to go, I just need to know.
And I had my eyes closed and I just heard the Lord say,
Haley, I wooed you.
And I want my people to know that I'm wooing them.
And this encounter that I had really was a product
of the Lord wooing me.
He was drawing me towards himself.
He was drawing me into the freedom I needed.
I wasn't even able to pursue the freedom I needed,
but he was inviting me and he was relentless
in his wooing of me.
As I pray, thank you, Holy Spirit.
As I pray right now, I can feel right now,
I don't know if you can feel a shift.
There's a new weight right now.
And that's because that is the truth of the Lord.
We've just released the word in the right season
and it's his truth and it's his heart right now
that says, I'm wooing you.
And so God, even now, thank you, Holy Spirit.
Oh, we love you.
We love your presence.
We love your intimacy.
We love communion with you, God.
We know that you seek communion with us
even more than we know how to seek it with you.
You were the originator of the plan of connection.
And so Holy Spirit, I pray God
for the breaking off of striving.
I tell shame, shame, you are no longer welcome.
You are evicted from every mind and heart.
Shame, you are a liar and a thief.
And I invite the truth of who the heavenly host
who our King of glory is, God,
I invite the truth of the spirit of adoption,
the spirit of adoption, the spirit of adoption
by which we cry out, Daddy, God.
When my husband comes home,
my little girl just shouts, Daddy, Daddy, Daddy.
Because she knows it's time to play.
God, I just, I ask Lord for the wooing of your heart
that when Daddy comes home,
we know that it's time for enjoyment.
It's time for delight.
It's time for fun.
It's time for connection.
It's time to be tossed in the air
and to throw and to giggle with such delight
because our dad's gonna catch us.
Our dad's got us.
We're safe because Daddy's here.
God, I pray for a wooing God of your spirit, God,
for each person watching now and watching back
that they would be wooed and drawn
into this place of encounter
because you are inviting them.
And Lord, we respond that says, we are coming after you.
We respond with a wholehearted yes.
We respond with wide open arms and wide open hearts
saying, King of glory, have your way, have your way in me.
Make me a resting place of your beautiful spirit.
God, if you call me a house,
let my heart be a home for you.
In Jesus' name, amen.
While Haley was speaking,
I actually saw someone on the call.
Their background is a leaf.
They have leaves in the background.
I'm gonna see if our tech host can help us find this person
because I felt like I had a word for you.
Yes, bottom right corner, Merlina.
I think that's your name.
While I was driving up the hill this morning to church,
I heard the Lord say, weeping willow.
And I was like, that's so random.
Why did I hear weeping willow?
What does that mean?
And I just felt like,
I think actually Ben's mentioned something
about weeping prophets yesterday.
And I just was reminded of that.
I was like, oh, Ben was talking about weeping prophets.
And I just felt like actually the Lord was inviting you
into this place where you were going to experience
the tenderness of his heart.
That you are gonna begin to experience intimacy
with the Lord like you've never experienced before.
And you're gonna experience just his tenderness
where places where you have felt like you've had to
maybe try to figure him out.
And it's been very, maybe I feel like even analytical.
He's gonna bring you into a place
where you just are able to experience the feeling.
He's gonna just invite you into his presence
and it's going to be tender and it's gonna be sweet.
And then I was even just thinking about
the weeping willow tree, how it just hangs.
It just hangs there.
There's a lightness, there's an ease to its leaves
and it just allows the water to drip off of it.
It runs down its leaves.
I just feel like he's going to just run down you.
There's just gonna be an ease to it
when his presence comes near to you in this season.
So I just bless you in this season.
We're just so thankful for you.
I just pray that you would just begin to experience
the tenderness of the Lord.
It's just, yes.
Oh, I see someone even saying that their last name
means weeping willow.
So you can take this word for yourself as well.
I just pray that the tenderness of the Lord,
you just feel that as he just,
his presence wraps around you in this season.
Oh, we bless you.
Can I jump on that real quick?
I feel like for everyone right now,
Corey Russell prayed for the gift of tears over our house
and he said that tears cleanse the eyes.
Tears actually cleanse our vision.
It gives us clarity again.
And I have the gift of tears.
I know I do.
One of my close friends,
Stephanie Gretzinger, she does too.
And a lot of people think we're crying because we're sad,
but I'm crying because I feel the heart of God.
And you know, it's something so beautiful
that we as prophets, we can be invited to his heart.
You can stand in the council of God
and prophesy from the council of God,
but it's another thing to prophesy from his heart.
And I just want to pray for encounters with the heart of God
and for the gift of tears,
that it wouldn't be, sometimes it is tears of grief,
but those tears of grief lead you to a holy repentance
for the bride to release her into the fullness.
And sometimes it's tears of great intimacy and joy.
So God, I pray, Lord, for the gift of tears
to come on your people,
that they would be moved by your heart, God,
that they wouldn't be just standing
in the council of the Lord.
God, we love to stand in your council
and we want to stand in your council,
but God, would you grant us by your grace and your mercy,
access to standing in the council of your heart, God,
to standing in the center of your heart, Lord.
We will not despise the tears and the vulnerability, Lord,
but we will be people who stand as Jeremiah did, God,
to bring recompense and restoration to a nation,
to a people, God, who need to know your heart.
So God, we thank you for that.
Lord, we thank you for this word
about the weeping willow, God.
No longer will you weep in grief,
but you will weep with the heart of God
to bring shift and change,
that your tears will bring a cleansing
to the people of God, a cleansing of their heart.
Holy Spirit, I pray for a fresh
and holy encounter with your heart.
I do.
A holy fire to fill your people
that will bring transformation, God,
not just to our lives, God,
but to our families and to our communities.
In Jesus' name.
Amen.
Oh, that's good.
Yay.
Thank you, Hayley.
Oh, I just see all, yes, amazing.
Oh, thank you, Hayley, for joining us today.
You guys, it's been a wonderful week.
It's been amazing to just see your faces every morning
and see you learning and receiving from our speakers
and from School of the Prophets.
I just pray that you would just be continually blessed today
as we receive our impartation
and as we go out from this school
that you would just feel filled with faith
for what the Lord is doing in your life.
So we thank you guys and have a beautiful day.
You're so wonderful.
Have a wonderful day.
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come on a good morning school of the prophets come on in find your seat
welcome to all those joining us online wherever you're at around the world
Brazil and then all of our online audience joining from all over the world
as well we have had such an incredible week have you guys enjoyed your time
here yeah I think there's a potential that you would go home and realize oh my
goodness I actually received more than what I thought and and I I really
believe there is going to be an exponential increase when you get back
to the Metron where God wants to empower you in your gift and in your
office I really believe it and and you're gonna find something happens to
you that blows your your your mind your your your spirit out of the water okay
how many are expecting that amen amen yeah we're gonna we're gonna let me just
see I've got some announcements before we kick off and you see some stools up
here we're gonna have Chris and Dan Oh lead a Q&A time to kind of wrap up our
sessions together and then we've got some special things later on this
morning and then this afternoon our impartation time as well but one of the
big things we we do at conferences or schools here at Bethel Church and it's
a it's a super high value to get your feedback we want your feedback actually
it we we we actually covet your feedback because it helps us create a more
excellent experience and resource you better as our prophetic community around
the world and so what we're gonna do we have an event survey online right there
so I want you to pull out your phones I think we'll have something also in the
chat a link in the chat as well and if you could click on that right now we're
gonna give you about five minutes and we want you to fill it out right now
actually fill it out and we're gonna actually put that and leave that on the
screen and we're gonna just take the next five or six minutes to do that and
I may say it a couple of times as people come in the room because we want as much
feedback as possible we love your feedback so go ahead and put your
picture on that QR code and and for those of you online there should be a
link coming up really soon and go ahead and start filling that out and we'll get
started in just a moment yeah
For those of you that are just coming in the room right now or just popping in online,
we'd love for you to take out your phones and hit up that QR code right there, take
a picture of that, and real quickly fill out our survey for School of the Prophets 2022.
We really appreciate your feedback, so make sure as you're coming in the room that you're
doing that.
That's what everyone's doing.
They're not just looking at me.
It's not working?
Is it working for some people?
Try it again.
The Wi-Fi?
Oh, it won't load.
Some people's are loading.
Keep trying.
And there's so many people on it too, that probably doesn't help our latency, so.
Keep trying, please.
Yeah, and if you're unable to do that, then just take a picture of it, save that for later,
and maybe in an hour try that, you know, but we'd love, love your feedback.
So as people are coming in as well, you see a QR code up on the screen.
We are doing a quick survey of School of the Prophets 2022, and we'd love your feedback.
We're just going to take a couple of more minutes for this survey.
Again, the QR code is up on the screen.
Take a picture of that.
If you're not able to get on right now, then save that and do that in a little bit.
We'd love, love, love your feedback.
And I can see all of our prophetic friends online.
They are doing their survey.
I can see it.
They're just so diligent.
Welcome back to all of those that are coming in the room right now.
We are just doing an event survey for School of the Prophets 2022.
If you could pull out your phones, take a picture of that QR code, and fill out the
survey for us real quick.
We'd really appreciate that.
We'll give you about 45.
More seconds to fill that out.
If you're just coming in the room,
we're doing a survey of School of the Prophets 2022.
There is a QR code on the screen.
Go ahead and take a picture of that.
And we'd love your feedback.
Yeah, go ahead and do that survey right now.
No, no service.
Just keep that picture.
Click on it later if you can't get on there.
And we would really like to get your feedback.
Thank you for all of you who are filling it out right now
and were able to get on and get that feedback.
Please try that multiple times throughout the day.
We'd really like your feedback, like right now,
when it's fresh in your mind.
Because otherwise we go home and we forget a bunch.
So I want us to get as much as we can as soon as we can.
We really appreciate it.
And if you're coming in the room right now,
pull out your phones, take a picture of that QR code.
And then we're going to also, we've
got another announcements, announcements,
another one announcement.
Just an announcement.
It's a good thing.
It's School of the Prophets 2023.
And we have our dates for School of the Prophets 2023.
It's August 7th through the 11th.
And we are so excited about this.
And you can actually save your spot now if you want.
And we're putting up, again, another QR code here.
Or you can go to Bethel.ws-SOTP.
And we are giving a special discount for you, $30 off.
And this is kind of like super early bird special.
This is actually the prophet special,
because prophets show up early, right?
They know the future.
And it doesn't cost them as much when they plan ahead.
Hey, come on.
This is like stewardship 101.
This is awesome.
So check that out, School of the Prophets 2023,
August 7th through the 11th.
We're going to have a blast.
This year was an incredible year.
We are such an incredible privilege to serve you all.
And I want to start the morning.
We're going to have Dano and Chris come up in just a second.
But if you at all were serving in School of the Prophets,
and you weren't one of our instructors,
but you were a production crew, we have all our video crew.
We have our ushers.
We have all of our community group leaders.
We have our prophetic teams, our roaming teams.
We have so many people.
We have production backstage.
You won't ever see them.
We have all of our administrative staff.
And the ones who actually put this on, they are incredible.
They actually carry a level of peace and presence
that you felt throughout this time.
It was so smooth.
Actually, our smoothest School of the Prophets
I've ever had.
If you're any of those, even our intercessors,
they don't like to be highlighted.
But we like to highlight them because they
create an atmosphere for us.
Will you stand to your feet if you were any of those at all?
Some of them are standing.
Some of them are outside of the room.
Will you give it up for them?
Will you celebrate them?
All of our tech hosts, all the ones
that made it possible for all our online community,
they have done work so long.
I mean, our admin teams, the ones who actually
make this happen, have started on 2023,
I mean, before even the event.
So they have been working for over a year on your behalf.
This is the type of investment that so many people
have in reformation.
And so many of these, you'll never see them on the stage,
but they're reforming through social media.
They're reforming through getting all of this
to you online.
They're reforming through their creative craft
in incredible ways.
And we see.
Celebrate them.
I mean, I cannot thank you.
We cannot thank you as a team enough
for all of your investment.
They create reformers in hospitality.
I mean, when you walk in the room and someone loves on you
or someone says, no, you can't come in this door.
Yeah, well, I'm a prophet of four galaxies.
Yeah, not this one.
Okay.
Not yet, not yet.
We don't know you that way yet.
So thank you so much for coming.
Thank you for investing your life
into so many in the kingdom.
This is such an important season for you to be released.
Will you stand to your feet
and welcome Dan O'McCollum and Chris Vallotton
as they come and do our final Q&A.
Thank you.
Good morning.
So you guys.
We're gonna have a Q&A session this morning
as kind of part of our final session.
I feel like a stool pigeon.
A stool pigeon.
And one of the things I learned from Chris
that we teach all of our trainers
is we just do a little thing on what a question is
and what a question isn't.
And I really did learn it from Chris,
but you know, honestly, we do this
so that people don't embarrass themselves
like when they get up there
because kind of when you think this is your moment to shine,
everybody else is kind of embarrassed for you.
And so we'd like to protect you from that
by saying a Q&A time
is not a time for a long backstory, okay?
As soon as you start a question
with when I was six years old,
we all lose hope right there, okay?
Honestly, hope leaves the room, you know?
So it doesn't have a long backstory, okay?
Also, the question and answer time
isn't a time for opinions or sermons or things like that.
Okay, it's also not an award ceremony of,
I'd like to thank my mother and my father
and the people who are here.
And when you start with an award ceremony,
once again, we're like, we just,
we feel kind of sorry for you
that you don't know what's appropriate in this moment.
So.
And interpreting dreams.
Yes, yes, and we're not interpreting dreams
or encounters at this time.
That takes more time and it's more of a personal nature.
So it really is a question, okay?
It's great if it starts as a question
and finishes as a question.
That's what will really make you look intelligent
and sharp and amazing like you truly are.
And it's great if it's a question about the conference,
something you've learned, something on topic,
something that has to do with prophets
or prophecy or something.
Yeah, or not also not solving your problem with your pastor.
So we, I mean, those are honest questions,
but my pastor won't let me do da, da, da.
It's like, it's really difficult to give you a real answer.
And I've stopped doing it
because I don't actually know your circumstances
and you're telling me your side of the story.
And then I often meet your pastors
who have a way different side of the story.
And they said, and my guy said that you told him to do this.
I'm like, yeah, I didn't realize
that that wasn't the whole story.
So we're not gonna give you advice
about what to do with your leadership or whatever.
For obvious reasons, we don't actually know the problem.
So we're gonna receive questions live in the room today.
Okay, and also Haley's gonna be checking the online
and she's gonna be bringing in questions
from our online community as well,
which we love you guys.
And we're, thank you for your faithfulness
in time zones all around the world.
I know some of you getting up at two in the morning
to be part of this year's School of the Prophets
and we just bless you guys.
Okay, we're ready.
So we're gonna have a line on either side.
You can come forward and present your question
to the facilitator there on either side.
And we'll get to as many as we can.
We'll try to do short answers.
Yeah, we'll try to do short answers.
Does that make sense?
Okay, do you ever have moments or events
or situations where you?
Is he a person who's getting so wrapped up in listening to Holy Spirit that they forget to get
up and go to work? Just do the work. Yeah? It's not okay in our culture to be irresponsible in
the name of Holy Spirit. So my question is for Chris. You always say like I have an edumacation
and you have such a profound revelation of the Bible and God and so was it easy for you to
read the Bible and understand it when you first started your God journey?
I've always had an incredible hunger for the Word. When I got saved I read on the third grade level
and we only had King James Bible. We had the Message Bible. I think I said this but
my mentor said Message Bible is not a real Bible which meant I had to learn to read,
reading the King James Version. But something happened when I got saved and I had never read
a book in my life before I was saved. And I was living with my roommate who I grew up with and
who wasn't saved and I didn't want him to know how crazy I was. So we had a closet and I would
go in the closet and turn the light on and I would read the Bible for two or three hours a
night. I'd fall asleep reading the Bible in there. And it probably, you know, like an hour would be
a chapter because that's how. And there was all kinds of words in there I didn't know. Like I
wouldn't even know what the word sanctification was if I could even sound it out. So but I felt
Holy Spirit was really tutoring me and teaching me. And then I had the privilege in my fourth year
of knowing the Lord of meeting Bill. Who in my mind, obviously I think Bill's a great Bible
teacher in all of the things that you would think. But he has a spirit of revelation on him.
And the interesting thing about Bill is two things. The way he approaches the Bible and the
way he reads the Bible. And most of us approach the Bible to validate what we already believe.
But Bill doesn't do that, never has done that. And so through he, through osmosis, like watching
the way that he approaches the Bible, like in the fourth or fifth year of my walk with God,
I just naturally started approaching the Bible like that. And then watching the way that he
interacts with the Bible, I like there wasn't a day I go, oh, that's the way you're supposed to
do it. But I noticed over time, looking back, that I shifted the way that I actually read
and received. And so I think that there is a spirit of revelation on our movement. That's
that also is on me. I would say that with without any like, arrogance, like I didn't do it to me.
And you know what I'm saying? It really is something that the Lord did in my life.
And so I would say that, yeah. And there are people who study better, for sure. You know,
I'm not, I'm like, I read all the time, but I'm not the greatest studier. But I think that our
approach to the word opens up revelation and doors. I'm sorry, I interrupted you.
No, no, that was so good. One of the things I love about Chris too, is how he values the teachers in
the house. And there's a lot of prophetic people that misuse the word. And we have teachers around
you who you have relationship with, they can call you on it and bring you into a more orthodox
expression of the word or a proper expression of the word. But not only that, if you're going to
spiritualize a text in a way and make something symbolic or metaphoric that isn't actually that
way in the Bible, you can at least acknowledge that you're doing it. Like, hey, today I'm going
to use this passage in a way it wasn't really intended to make a point that is in the word of
God kind of thing, you know? And I think we could really help people come into prophetic community
by how we partner with teachers and how we rightly steward the word. And you do that so well.
Yeah, we've been privileged in our movement and at Bethel to have people like Dan Fairley,
which often we have Dan teach in this conference, who is a five-fold teacher and views the word
very differently. And then, you know, often, I think it's actually often, I think it's only twice
in the book of Acts, it says, and they sent them prophets and teachers. But it's there enough to
realize that prophets and teachers should be friends and partners and allies and not enemies.
Yeah, I think you're next.
Yeah, so in discussing the apostolic structure
that you guys had talked about
where believers can disagree,
how should we as believers deal with fellow believers
or even church leaders that are LGBT affirming
as far as partnership or leadership in the church structure?
Well, let me say this,
that homosexuality is clearly sin in the Bible,
just as adultery, just as lying, just as any other sin,
but it is sin.
And the difference between,
there's not a movement of people who are saying
lying is normal and I'm a liar and I'm a...
So what makes the LGBTQ different
is that they're actually trying to normalize sin.
And so it's not loving.
Okay, so let me say this,
the way that you get saved,
people always say, well, sinners need mercy.
That's true.
Mercy means you don't get what you deserve.
But in order for you not to get what you deserve,
you have to understand that you deserve punishment.
If I'm saying my lifestyle is normal
and I'm not doing anything wrong, I can't receive mercy.
So mercy means I didn't get what I deserve.
Grace means I got what I didn't deserve,
which means I deserve punishment,
but instead I got grace, I got favor,
I got healthy when I should have been sick sort of thing.
So the challenge that we have is that when we normalize sin,
we take away the ability to receive mercy
and then get grace.
And you've learned this week
that grace is the operational power of God.
It gives me the power to change and transform.
When a Christian says, so that's the world, right?
But when a Christian says, I'm a Christian
who actually cannot change my identity, my very DNA,
Mike, I'm sorry, that's actually not true
because when you received Jesus Christ,
you became a new creation and all things passed away.
So listen, I'm not mad at anybody,
but I'm not going to create a culture
where people can't actually get well.
And that's just the truth.
And I don't wanna uncover my own family,
but I have three people in my family very close to me
who are identifying that way and they are very welcome.
I wanna be very careful,
but I have a weekly relationship with all of them,
love them, we don't talk about it
because they know my view,
but when they're, and I know they feel loved by me,
but they very much know that this is the truth.
And in my mind, there's no way they're not gonna come out.
They will, they're young and they'll come out
and I love them,
but I'm not gonna change what I believe to love someone
because see, and this is part of this,
I'm sorry, this is a long answer.
In denominationalism, we gather because we agree.
And here's the part I didn't share that night.
If I'm a leader and I can't get you to agree with me,
then I end up having to agree with you,
which is why we are ordaining homosexuals
because I can't get you to change,
so I'll change so you don't have to leave.
And I'm sorry, that's just not,
and people like, well, Jesus loves sinners.
He did, but he didn't have any problem telling people
like the woman caught in adultery,
he says to her, go your way and sin no more.
Don't ever sin again, he just told her.
And he didn't call that condemning.
He says, neither do I condemn you.
Go your way and don't ever sin again.
He didn't have any problem, people, it's just the Pharisees.
No, he had a pretty strong talk with all of his disciples.
So Jesus didn't have any problem loving people
while he's telling them the brutal truth at times
in a way that wouldn't even be politically correct
for most churches.
So I don't have any problem creating a culture of truth
in the bedrock of love and mercy.
But I'm not gonna give away truth, so you can feel love.
That was so good, I was invited into a church in Singapore
and when I got there, I found out they had a strong ministry
among homosexual community and it made me nervous
because I believe everything you just said.
And I sat down with the leader and he explained something
to me that really helped me.
He said, within that community, there are militants,
there are moderates.
Militants are.
having an agenda, moderates just kinda wanna be left alone.
And he said, then there's strugglers and there's overcomers.
And he said, let me clarify.
We work with strugglers who realize that there's a problem
and they're working through the problem
and overcomers, people that have come out of that lifestyle
and can present what a victorious, you know,
what a victorious experience in this looks like.
And you know, that really set my heart at peace.
But I think a lot of times we'll take somebody's behavior
and categorize everyone in the same square.
And that really helped me, so.
We have a ministry called Changed.
Here it was by two previous gay people.
And one of them is named Elizabeth Wohning.
And she was previously a Presbyterian
who was writing the white paper
for why homosexuality was okay.
She was a Presbyterian minister
and they had tasked her with writing the white paper
on why homosexuality was not sin
and why they could be ordained as homosexuals.
She got that white paper about a half done
and had an encounter with the Lord.
And the Lord said, you're better than that.
And through an encounter, she'd had years of counseling
and through an encounter, she got completely free.
And that's her story.
So it's beautiful.
Just wondering if you can talk about tiredness
and how you deal with that in prophetic ministry,
walking out tiredness
and dealing with spiritual and physical tiredness.
Yeah.
I'd speak as somebody who's new to the prophetic,
but supporting somebody who's way further than me.
And I wonder how you would answer that
30 years ago when you were starting out,
20 years ago maybe, and how you handle it now
because we're there and not here.
This is also your land.
Yeah, I just, well, 14 years ago,
I had a nervous breakdown, my second one,
and ended up on the couch for six months,
like couldn't get off the couch for six months.
And at the end of that,
six months, and at the end of five and a half months
of being so depressed,
I didn't really want to live anymore.
The Lord talked to me for,
I didn't hear from the Lord in five months,
which for a prophetic guy is pretty part of the stress.
And the Lord said to me that in the fifth month,
you are not the savior of the world.
It's all he said to me.
I was on the couch and he said to me,
you are not the savior of the world.
And then two days later, he came to me again and said,
there's always enough time and energy
for the people I send to you.
Your job is to know who I sent.
And then he told me,
as long as you're working for the people instead of for me,
you're gonna continue to be on this couch year after year.
And so it changed my, you know, my team all knows,
it changed my approach.
I realized that I'm gonna go to bed every day.
And because I'm a public person,
well, I'm probably one 10th of the people
who are trying to get to me actually get to me.
That means 90% of the people
that have an expectation for me every day
don't get their expectation met.
And if I spend my life thinking about who I disappointed,
I'll be back on that couch again.
So I have to be, you know,
and I realized that if you're not a public person,
you know, that's reduced for you
because it was for me when I was in business.
But I also realized that there's always enough time
and energy for everybody, everything
and everybody the Lord gives me to take care of.
So I have to stay connected to him.
And then I also have to in practically,
I have warning lights.
And when those warning lights go off,
I can't blow through those stop signs
because I end up on the couch again.
So, you know, and I physically,
I have some physical warning signs
and I have a couple of emotional warning signs.
And when I start to feel those, you know, Kimberly,
I don't know if Kimberly's in here,
but I'll text Kimberly, there she is, my PA,
and say, you gotta cancel my meetings tomorrow.
Or I gotta get out of this meeting.
And also I've always had PAs who care about my soul.
Kimberly is my newest one and she's just wonderful.
And I have a wonderful team that cares about me.
And she will look at my week and say,
or when we're planning, she'll say,
that's gonna be too much for you.
I don't feel good about that.
And I'm like, oh, the Lord's given me people
that actually shepherd me, shepherd my soul.
And so sometimes we do it anyway.
And usually she's right.
And I'm like, I can't come in tomorrow.
She's just like, oh, I don't want her to say I told you so.
One more thing I do, and this sounds weird, but.
We have a really busy life and I have to take life day by day,
which means if you ask me on Monday what I'm doing Friday,
I earnestly don't know.
And if you say, hey, in fact, people have come up to me,
hey, you're coming to my city, I'm like, I am.
Well, I knew we do a yearly planning,
so I knew that I okayed doing that,
but I have no idea when it is and I don't wanna know.
So Kimberly will tell me anything I need to know
for the week, like, hey, you're flying out Friday,
so you might wanna think about that.
And what I do is right before I go to bed at night,
I look at my schedule for tomorrow
and I get ready for tomorrow,
but I don't look at it for the next day.
And that helps me to live day by day,
so I'm not thinking about Friday
when I'm only doing Tuesday
because of the way that I'm personally wired.
But I have to have someone who is looking out for me,
so my PAs have always been good at like,
well, he's not thinking about Friday
and today's Monday, he leaves on Thursday.
And so she'll be like,
hey, you wanna look at your calendar this week?
And otherwise I couldn't do it
because I obviously would feel irresponsible.
Anyway, that's a long answer to stay off the couch.
That's great, I have a question from online.
Jason online asked the question,
what words of wisdom do you have for pastors
looking to cultivate a healthy prophetic ministry
in the church that they serve
that is in the early stages of understanding it?
Yeah, I love that question.
And I wanna say,
don't let one person dominate the prophetic dialogue.
The most unhealthy churches I've seen around the world
are where one person dominates the prophetic dialogue
and they're trying to say what the word of the Lord is
for everybody and everything.
And equipping the saints is one of,
what happens is people have a bad experience
with a prophet, often self-declared,
who is dominating the dialogue
and then they shy away from the prophetic
when actually you wanna do the opposite,
empower everybody to hear, everybody to see,
and suddenly that person's power is brought into balance.
Honestly, I'm not saying
that that person shouldn't have a voice,
I'm saying that person shouldn't be the voice.
And that we can hear the Lord together.
So instead of pulling back, equip.
Instead of pulling back, you just start equipping,
you start equipping.
So I think that's one thing.
We do go through a structure in the book,
Prophetic Company, and again,
I share my journey from a cessationist
into a circus leader, you know what I mean?
Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha.
But even some of what I believe is the wineskin,
and just one more thing, Chris might have more on this,
but just one more thing is,
please make a place where the prophetic can be present
so that it's not popping out in inappropriate places.
And so like for us, we would, once a month,
we would have prophetic teams available at the service
and we'd focus on a specific target, like on Mother's Day,
hey, every mother's gonna get a prophetic word.
Hey, on April 15th, which is Tax Day in America,
it's like, hey, we're gonna pray for every business owner,
we're gonna prophesy over,
and what would happen is people would actually invite people
to church on those specific days to receive ministry.
And so it built the church, it had a healthy outlet,
we would do it after service,
people would stay afterwards, sometimes for a couple hours,
and we would minister to hundreds of people in that place,
but it kind of prevented the like popcorn prophecy,
kind of somebody jumping up in the service.
And I don't mean that's bad,
but I mean, when it's in an inappropriate way or time,
sometimes that's because there's no healthy outlet
within the church for prophetic ministry.
And I think you can't just equip people
and not apostle them in the way,
I'm not saying create apostles,
I'm saying send them, in other words,
give them some place to express the prophetic equipping
that you're giving them.
And there are a lot of ways to do that,
but that's a little bit about how we manage that.
So Chris, you shared your story
about prayer walking that small town,
and I was wondering if you have any insights
on how to prepare a small group of people to prayer walk,
not all of them are prophets,
some of them are evangelists or just.
I've actually never done it since.
I'm not a good walker, and...
But, you know, there's a lot of great information
on prayer mapping, which includes prayer walking,
and I mean, honestly, didn't have a strategy
like the Lord's told me to do this,
but what's powerful is, for me,
and that would, I think, relate to what you're saying is,
is that, you know, that non-strategic prayer walk
was very strategic in the heavenlies,
and made a huge difference, in that,
for whatever reason, you know,
Josh was, you know, seven times around a city.
For me, what I learned most wasn't the walk
so much as the obedience, and especially,
and I had no idea what we were actually doing.
You know, I think if someone would've laid out a strategy,
you're gonna prayer walk this,
you're gonna bring down the principality,
and then you're gonna start a ministry,
but I didn't know any of that,
so I think that, you know,
I think what's really important,
more than walking and praying,
is to actually connect with the Holy Spirit.
You know, I think that, if we're not careful,
we become, you know, Methodists,
in that we copy someone else's method
that has nothing to do with connection,
so if the Lord says, you know, walk,
then I would walk.
If the Lord says, lay in your bathtub and pray,
I would do that.
You know, it's like, wherever you meet the Lord,
and then if other people have the same, you know, sense,
then I think agreement's really important,
if two of you agree on earth as to touching anything.
So, but I really shouldn't speak to the strategy of it,
because I really don't have one,
and I've never did it since.
It's kind of like, I can't speak about fasting either,
because I don't do that either.
Well, I mean, I do eat quick,
but I don't know if that's fasting.
I fast all night long, like I do the king,
the Darius, Darius fasted all night, remember this?
He said, it said he did fasting all,
King Darius, he fasted all night,
and then he ran to the lion's den,
and that's what I do, I fast all night,
and I break fast in the morning.
Darius.
I told Lou Engle that, he didn't think it was very funny.
Can you guys just speak into maybe wisdom
around giving a corporate prophetic word?
I think you touched on some of the negative aspects,
and maybe immature kind of expressions of those,
but when someone has a genuine,
or at least they feel like they have a genuine
corporate word for a body, an organization, a church,
what's a good kind of set of guidelines and guardrails?
I know Daniel's gonna speak into this,
but let me just say this.
Like, you should stay inside your Metron.
So if you haven't had personal prophetic words,
if you haven't got a track record
of your personal prophetic words actually coming to pass,
you shouldn't actually,
I mean, you can have corporate words and pray into them.
You can pray into them, like personally,
but you shouldn't be giving corporate prophetic words
if you, first of all, if you're not seen
as somebody who has authority in that realm,
and secondly, if you haven't had a great track record
because you haven't had enough experience.
So, I mean, this is the challenge.
Like, everybody wants to be the star, including me.
Like, stand up and give a word within 500 people,
and you know, and in our, we live in a culture
that we are both very concerned about,
in that you can look like you have this great anointing
because you're really good at marketing on social media,
and you have 500,000 people following you,
but the man behind the curtain is, you know, is Pee Wee Herman.
And, you know, we saw a lot in the last year
where people are just crashing and burning.
And so, you know, we just want,
we're all learning and growing,
so you don't have to be perfect.
There's no such thing as a perfect person
to give a corporate word,
but you do have to be acknowledged
as having authority with that group of people.
How do you know when you've had success in your Metron?
Yeah.
When do you know, like genuinely,
that the Lord is maybe moving you outside of that?
You know, that I've, yeah.
When you've been faithful within your Metron,
you often are expanded.
Paul talks about this in 1 Corinthians.
Corinthians 10, he says, I want to be faithful here
in what God has given me so that the Lord will extend
to other places and other lands,
but it's often by invitation.
Like as you're being faithful, you're invited into scenarios
and oftentimes when you're invited in,
they feel too big for you, you know?
Like, and I just want to say that you can receive
information about your nation that you're not supposed to,
like, it's not your responsibility to share that.
God's just letting you know what's going on.
And so a lot of people feel like, well,
why am I receiving information on this level
if I don't have this opportunity?
Because you're a friend of God and you live in that country
and he's just sharing things with you.
And so I think there's this wrong idea
that revelation always brings responsibility.
And authority.
If I, yeah, and authority.
And it's like, oh, if I received it from the Lord,
then I must share it, you know?
And that's not the definition of a friend.
A friend is not someone who shares with everybody else
everything you tell them.
And I just want to say that sometimes the Lord
shares things with you in friendship
that is honestly just because you're friends with the Lord.
And then you go out and share them
and it actually undermines your friendship
rather than advance your authority.
So good.
On that as well, there's kind of protocols,
at least within our community,
as you're building prophetic communities,
there should be on ramps to corporate words.
So what I'm saying is this,
if someone on my team comes to one of my sessions leader,
prophetic sessions leader,
and says, I feel like I have this word
that it might be appropriate,
then that session leader maybe comes to one of my leaders
and tells me, and they tell me,
and if I feel like it's appropriate,
then I may come to Chris or Bill with a word like that.
And then if they're vetting it and saying,
yeah, that feels like a now word right now,
then that works well.
Yeah.
I have another online question.
We have a couple of questions about mystics.
So I'm gonna kind of combine two.
One question was, could we explain what mystics are?
And then also if you're,
do you kind of change your protocol
around kind of typical prophetic experiences
and then mystical experiences?
How do you kind of approach?
Do you approach those differently, the same?
Love to just hear your thoughts.
Yes, so the definition of mystics again
is people who are often having the spirit world
overlay the natural world on a high frequency.
Like that's like a lot of events.
This happened a lot to Ezekiel.
So we would classify him this way.
Let's say, first of all, that mystical is not a,
mystic is not a biblical word.
Neither is it an office, neither is it an assignment.
It's just a placeholder to help us kind of have a category
for different protocols and different purposes.
Now, why do I say there's different protocols?
Because in 2 Corinthians 12, Paul said,
I know a man who went up into the third heaven
who saw things, get this, that it's not lawful
to talk about.
Both John the Revelator and Ezekiel saw things,
began to write them down and the Lord said,
no, seal this up.
This is for another time.
And I think there are different protocols
for heavenly experiences.
And I believe this is being violated right now
on a large scale of people.
I hear people share thing and it's like,
I don't doubt that that happened,
but do you have permission to share that?
Like, and I also don't, I don't like hierarchy
within mystical experiences.
And I was trying to hit that a little bit last night
of listen, you know, Rob Spurr in Australia
is having a mystical experience to see the man
with the green vest and the man with the blue beret,
which is awesome, but it's no different
than George Washington Carver seeing a peanut
and getting revelation about what God is saying.
And I think the hierarchy that is developed
among mystical community where they're like,
well, if you knew what I see,
then like, you don't know what you're talking about.
I discount you because you don't see what I see.
And I'm like, well, yeah, if you don't see what we see,
you're never going to have an audience.
You know, like everybody sees, we just see different ways.
And so again.
And what we're trying to do with people who have a high amount of those kind of experiences,
I said it before this week, but we first of all normalize, there needs to be a safe place where you can talk about it.
And that's not on the mic usually on Sunday mornings, you know?
And then secondly, we contextualize.
We want to find scriptural root, historical root, scientific reasoning.
We want to have something that helps us have some truth behind our experience so that we know we're not kind of going into a deception realm.
And then weaponize, what is the purpose of this?
How does this actually benefit humanity?
Because I've said this before, but I'm not impressed with how often somebody goes to heaven.
I'm impressed with those who can bring back a carryout portion.
Like, hey, if you're going to heaven so much, get some for the rest of us.
Bring it back and manifest heaven on earth.
Because our mandate is not how many times can you go up?
Our mandate is how much can you bring down?
And so I think there are separate protocols for that community.
At the same time, I think they're a very unserved community.
And I think there are people that are very misunderstood.
And some of the greatest miracles I've ever seen in my life have been through helping mystical people find balance through normalization, contextualization, and then weaponization of actually flowing in a purpose.
So good.
Yeah.
Cool.
Who's next?
Yeah.
My question, I'll call it a technical question.
It's about the calling, gifting, anointing.
Put your mic close because we don't have monitors up here.
It's about the calling, gifting, anointing that, Chris, I think you were talking about the other day.
And one example you brought up was Acts 16 when Paul rebuked the fortune teller for saying that he serves the most high God.
And he wasn't happy about that.
And then you explained that she had the right words and she was saying the right thing, but she didn't have the right anointing.
So I guess we'll call that invalid.
But it sounds like she's saying the things that the good guys would say.
And then I took that and I started to think about when Jesus was casting out demons and then he was called out saying, you're part of the demons, that's how you're casting them out.
And then he said, and this is where I'm hung up, is a kingdom divided against itself cannot stand.
So I feel like those words from Jesus are kind of creating a clash for me between what happened in Acts and what happened, what Jesus said.
So could you clear that up?
Well, yeah, I mean, I think that the enemy will tell you whatever you want to hear, providing he gets access to your soul.
And so, you know, Jesus talked about that they're sheep, they're wolves in sheep's clothing.
I think it was Paul who said they come as angels of light.
So, I mean, the devil doesn't come and say, I am the devil and you should murder someone.
I mean, it can, it could get there, but he begins by saying things that would allow you to open the door and trust him.
And then as you trust him, then he gets control of your soul.
So, and the point that I was making with Acts 16 girl is that she actually has a gift from hell, a heart from hell and an anointing from hell.
She isn't anything from heaven there, where a person who was once a prophet and who's walked away gets a gift from heaven,
like he or she still gets to keep the gift from heaven, but they're anointing.
But what happens when they leave the presence, not the presence of God, but when they leave following God is that they still have the gift, but it's anointed by the wrong kingdom.
And so, and then, and the question, the actual question maybe that you have is how do you determine what?
And that is the gift of distinguishing the spirits.
It's interesting.
It says that that the, the Acts 16 incident says, and she followed Paul, I think it's in Silas, Paul and Barnabas, whatever,
followed them for several days before Paul finally got, you know, annoyed and cast the demon out of her.
I propose that if Paul would have known on day one that that was a spirit of witchcraft, he probably would have cast it out that day.
But it probably took a while because she was saying the right things and probably attracting people who he wouldn't attract when he realized like, well, that has all the,
it looks like a sheep, but it's actually a wolf.
Does that make sense?
Yeah.
Hi.
So for more, for prophetic people who are more naturally, this is the last question.
So you guys can go sit down.
Sorry about that.
that we're running out of time, go ahead.
It's gotta be a good one now.
Yeah, no pressure, but.
No pressure.
So for prophetic people who may be more naturally inclined
toward spontaneous and mystical experiences,
do you have any tips to share on becoming more consistent
and growing in spiritual disciplines
in our personal devotional lives?
It's okay.
Well, I mean, whether you're spontaneous
by personality and gift mix, or whether you're strategic,
and I don't know if those are incongruent with each other,
but let's just pretend they are for a minute,
or however you would say that,
you still need the discipline of consistency
in your life with Jesus.
You know, I may be spontaneous in the way
that I express my love to my wife,
but I still need to pick up my socks every morning,
come home, cut the lawn, and do the things
that build trust and connection,
even though they may not build intimacy and sex, you know?
It's like there's more to my marriage than intimacy.
There's more to my marriage than romance.
And much of my marriage is based on serving one another
and loving each other, not in the bedroom.
And so it's the same with the Lord.
It's great when we have these ecstatic experiences,
and if you've lived long enough in the Lord,
we all have a few, and some have many more.
But I can't sustain my relationship with God
on the 25 amazing experiences I've had,
and I've had three or four, to be honest,
as I shared my experience in the bathtub.
Like, I've had one of those, but it was profound enough
that it shifted my history, as Peter had
when he had the sheet coming down, kill and eat.
I mean, that brought all the Gentiles in.
So he had one encounter that we know of
that shifted the course of Gentile history.
We don't know that he had 50 of those,
but he had an ongoing relationship with the Lord.
So for me, I think I've shared this,
but I read my Bible every morning when I get up,
nearly every morning.
I probably miss it 10 times a year or 15,
but every morning, and I read it every night.
And mostly nothing's happening.
I'm reading my Bible, and it's typically a chapter.
Sometimes I get into it, and it's three or four or five.
I wouldn't have had three or four or five
if I didn't open it at all.
So, but I don't feel bad when it's a chapter.
I don't feel bad when it's 15 minutes.
Then I'm like, well, you're leading a movement.
You should have had three hours this morning.
Did you know about E.M. Bounds?
Like, yeah, I'm not E.M., and he's not me, you know?
And what I do, what Bill taught me years ago
is to practice the presence of the Lord.
And so I'd say my claim to personal fame with the Lord
is I'm always, like when you ask a question,
I'm naturally going, okay, Lord,
what do you want to say about this?
And I'm doing that, like, I'm just doing it
by kind of like muscle memory all day long.
So when we're making decisions about things,
I mean, you know, I really don't have a lot of education,
but I have lots of experience.
But I have a lot of experience going,
hmm, I have no idea what to do about that.
Well, if someone's articulating the problem,
and I have lots of experience with,
well, you should do this, this, and this.
And I don't always know, like, well, the Lord told me,
I could say that one in 50 times,
but this thought came to me while we're articulating
this big problem that I don't have any idea what to do.
And it was like that a lot, right?
With, we've been through a virus,
we've never been in my life.
I've never navigated a virus before, a pandemic.
You know, I've never navigated Black Lives Matter
and leading a movement.
I've never navigated, you know,
my senior pastor's wife dying in the middle of a movement.
You know, I mean, these are all like,
I can't pull on my experience.
I've never had these experiences before.
So we have to really tap into, okay, Lord,
I have, I mean, I wake most mornings for two years.
Lord, I have no idea what to do today.
I mean, like, I really don't know what to do.
I don't have experience in this.
And I know, I can see it could go this way or that way.
And all of these people are mad if I don't go this way.
And all these people are mad if I don't go that way.
And I actually don't know what the right way is.
Please guide us.
And so, you know, we got a lot of that
and that's just coming,
but I think it's flowing on the lines of discipline
in that I have the 15 minutes and sometimes it's two hours,
but I have the 15 minutes every morning that we make,
you know, I have my meeting with the Lord every morning
and I have it every night when I go to bed.
And so there's a placeholder there for that and it seems to work for me.
And the only thing I would say is, I think I'm speaking to the undisciplinedness
of some of the people we've shepherded, in that they have mystical experiences
but they don't really have great character and they have no consistency.
And Ben's done a great job, honestly much better than I did
when I was actually shepherding the prophetic myself.
Ben's done a great job, he's a much better pastor than I,
of creating consistency with our people who don't create it for themselves.
And Ben's good at like, you need this, like, hey you actually need this,
hey you actually need this.
And I'm like, impatient, I'm like, forget that person, they don't want to be consistent.
And Ben just has, you can feel it when Ben's up here, right?
He's just a much better father and shepherd than I am.
And so he's created a lot more, him and the team, created a lot more consistency
in taking people who don't have disciplines and saying, you have to have this.
And I think it's really made our prophetic community so much healthier.
So that's my comment. Thank you for asking the question.
Wow, that was good, huh? Good stuff. Great questions, you guys.
And we realize there's a lot of questions you still have.
That's going to be a fun journey with Holy Spirit.
You know, I told you Graham Cook asked me, hey, are we a prophetic company
or do we just love prophecy?
And I said, well, what's the difference?
And he goes, oh, that'll be a great three to five year journey with Holy Spirit.
I'm like, why do you have to yo to me?
Come on, Gandalf, just answer the question, you know what I mean?
But it truly was, it truly was like a three to five year journey with Holy Spirit.
And it was wonderful.
And it goes so much deeper than just the information of his answer.
As Holy Spirit brought levels of revelation, you know, so we love these times.
And thanks for your great input.
Hey, we're going a different way this year than we've ever gone.
And it is an experiment.
OK, we have for years we've had on our heart kind of what's next for School of the Prophets.
And we've done like, we even tried a couple of years dividing kind of beginners and advanced and stuff like that.
And we even were planning a level two School of the Prophets.
And that's not to say that we won't do that someday.
But we're like, hey, because people always ask us, hey, how can I get mentored?
Or how can I get to the next level?
Where can I get more training?
How can I enter into a deeper level of prophetic community?
And so we realized that we actually do already have some vehicles that do those kind of things and can help build that for you.
And I want to be really careful because a lot of these programs are tuition-based.
And I don't want anybody to feel like this is the big upsell at the end of the conference, OK?
Because that's not what we're talking about.
We do believe that it's important that you invest in you.
And then it costs money to put on programs.
It just does.
So that's the reality of the situation.
But are we going to put pressure on anybody to do anything?
No, we just want to make you aware of some of the things that are available that can provide the answers that we get all the time.
Again, about, well, I don't have a prophetic community.
How?
Or I want more training.
Or I want mentoring.
Or I want to specialize in a certain area.
And so we thought we'd take a little bit of time today and just feature some of the programs that these trainers run in addition to School of the Prophets.
And we'll do that for just about 30 minutes.
And when it's over, we're going to have an expo both online and in the – what room is that?
The West?
The East-West.
How is it East-West?
I don't know.
But anyway, is it as far as the East is from the West?
Yeah.
You just go out that door, and it's right there on the right.
Okay?
But anyway, there's going to be an expo there where you can talk to the people that are running these different ministries.
And they are on the board right now.
So we're going to get a quick introduction to each one of those.
And I see first is Bethel Prophetic.
So come on up.
up and welcome Ben Armstrong who runs Bethel Prophetic.
What is it?
How can they get involved?
Yeah, bethelprophetic.com,
all of our online learning platforms are there.
Really it's, we wanna resource you
and not only the prophetic, foundational prophetic stuff,
dream interpretation, advanced prophetic,
advanced dream interpretation.
We have all kinds of daily devotionals.
We have all kinds of interview style prophetic
around many different themes.
And really the point of it is to continually resource you
as the prophetic global community.
And our heart is to make sure that we're continuing
to give you spots to grow, to learn and create.
For some of you, you're like,
how do I develop a prophetic community?
We have a whole course on developing prophetic communities.
We have courses, online courses
about how do you steward encounters?
How do you actually do this stuff?
So we have regular seminars on that here,
but we've actually filmed those for you.
And then as well,
we have what's called Dream Life School of Interpretation.
And I told you, we have scratched the surface,
just barely scratched the surface
of this whole theme of interpretation.
And I believe it's actually a vital tool for God's prophets
is this gift of interpretation.
And we spend three days in March just going after that.
And I think we actually have a slide
for the School of Interpretation.
Do we have that slide?
Let me see, cause we're giving you a special deal.
If not, that's fine.
You just check it out in the expo room.
We really believe that this is a critical tool,
especially in this day and age,
when God ushers in a new historical season
and you look at the Bible in biblical times,
most of the time when there is a huge shift,
it was marked by dreams and visions.
And there needs to be interpretation for that.
So those are some of the resources
that we have available for you
if you wanna continue to grow in that area.
Awesome.
Thanks, Ben.
Here, I'll take that one too.
I'm gonna ask Bethany to come up.
Bethany Hicks, have you enjoyed hearing
from Bethany this week?
Yeah, we're good.
Okay, awesome.
Well, one of the things that the Lord has called
a prophetic company to do,
and Bethany, when we were talking
about strategic partners last night,
Bethany has been such a strategic partner
with Regina and I in the formation
of the prophetic company.
And one of the mandates we have
is to rewrite what the prophetic looks like
in our generation.
As we are asking the Lord what we could do
to make the prophetic company work better,
we're asking the Lord what we could do about that.
We felt like one of the things He said
is we could raise up trainers in every major city
in the United States,
every population over 100,000,
which is 4,000 cities.
So we're going after 4,000 trainers
in the next 10 years who are gonna help people
recognize and respond the voice of God,
know the protocols, the values for prophecy,
and have this vision of changing.
We've got, we're also working in the nations as well.
We've already got, I think, about 19 countries
that are a part of our program.
So tell more about the vision and the program.
Yeah, well, what this is is the 10-month program.
I think you mentioned that.
And we meet every week online,
and your instructors are Dano and myself.
So we will meet with you two hours every single week.
What we do is we go through the 12 receptors
and we teach you not as a student, but as a trainer.
And so a lot of times, if you've been
to any of our Activate trainings or anything like that,
we only give you like just the tip of an iceberg.
And so when you go through our program,
you're gonna get the depth of content of that iceberg.
And then we're gonna be teaching you as a trainer.
You're gonna be developing lesson plans.
We're gonna show you how to do that.
We're gonna ask that you actually start running trainings,
whether it's with two people in a home group
or whether you're already running a prophetic school.
And we're gonna equip you to have enough training,
prophetic training content for at least one year.
We actually have a three-year ACT program right now.
How many of you guys, just by a show of hands,
are currently in the ACT program that's in the room?
Just I want you guys, why don't you stand up
so people can just see you guys.
We wanna show you guys just how many people have been.
And then one hand, two hand, how many of you guys
has radically changed your life and what you've been doing?
Come on.
It has been worth the investment.
So we want you to know, this is definitely a,
it is, think of it like a tuition and investment program,
but we have seen so many people come alive
to the voice of God.
And many of you guys are like,
well, there's no prophetic in our area.
Well, maybe you're the forerunner.
You know what I mean?
And we wanna help equip you.
If you feel a call and a desire to train up other people
to be able to recognize and respond to the voice of God,
then that's really what this particular program
is about for you.
So ACT stands for Activate Certified Trainers.
Activate is a training method where we learn by doing.
So we teach prophecy by having people prophesy.
And so usually in an event,
people will prophesy 10 to 20 times a day
in various ways doing different receptors.
And we have just seen incredible retention rates.
We've seen prophetic communities accelerate.
We've seen our trainers really kind of find
their dream spot.
And it's just, we're having so much fun.
And I wanna just mention too,
maybe you have a desire,
but you don't feel like you have a platform
or you don't even feel like you have the skills.
You know, we have people in our program
from ages 30 up to over 70.
And I mean, one of our favorite stories,
she's in the room right now,
but she didn't have a school.
She didn't have an opportunity.
And there was something about aligning
with the training and the program
that actually has accelerated her opportunities.
And now she's teaching in women's aglow movements.
And now she's been developing a prophetic community
and training within her region and area.
And so you guys, the prophetic is a key
to what God wants to do in advance the kingdom of God.
And we need an army of trainers
that are really wanting to step into that.
So we do have a special coupon code
for our School of the Prophets attendees.
If that's something you're interested in,
of course, Deanna and I will be available
along with some of our trainers at the expo booth.
But if this is something you're interested in
and you don't have time to come to the booth or whatever,
you can find out more information
at activatecertification.com.
And then your coupon code,
if you wanted to register in the next seven days,
you receive an additional $500 off.
And that would be S-O-T-P 22.
So the acronym for School of the Prophets, S-O-T-P 22.
You would use that coupon code
and that would give you an additional $500 off.
And then our next school begins the first week of January 23.
Yeah, thanks so much, Beth.
All right, let's hear from Lindsay and Prophetic Labs.
Hi, girls.
Hey, guys.
Hi.
Hey.
Okay, so propheticlab.com is where we teach their classes,
but we call them labs because we do a lot of R&D.
When I first just started exploring the prophetic,
I was experiencing things,
but I was looking for a structure or a wineskin
to put it in.
And so basically what I started doing,
because I'm a researcher,
I started looking into what the intelligence community does
and the science community,
and then I was taking their methods
and applying it to the spiritual.
And we've just been having so much fun in that space.
And so we have two classes that'll be starting
at propheticlab.com.
The first one is called Methods 101.
I'm looking to see if Emery's in here.
So you guys see me,
but Prophetic Lab actually has a whole team of people
that teach and do stuff.
And Methods 101 is a one, three-hour class
where we'll go through the anatomy
and you guys will practice
doing different kinds of words on each other.
And then we also go through the biblical foundation
for prophesying signs.
And we practice that,
and we have so many testimonies that come out of that.
And so it's kind of a scratch and sniff of many methods,
as he says.
And then we have this course called
the Prophetic Report Lab Intensive,
which I really need to rename it.
It's a long, it's a mouthful,
but I had to throw intensive in there because it's intense.
So it's a five-week course, two hours.
And basically what we teach you how to do
is take you through the process
of how to create a prophetic report.
And that is, looks like this.
I cap the class at 10 to 15 people.
You guys all get code names,
and then we take you through prophesying.
And the fun part about this is that when you are,
we're pretty, listen, we're not high-tech,
but to some people we are.
We use Google Docs, okay?
So like for some people that's a lot,
and you need to know how to copy paste.
Okay, so I get a lot.
You would be surprised.
They're like, the lab's high-tech.
It's really not.
So here's what will happen.
So as we take you through the process of prophesying,
like you'll submit your words,
or notebook, and then I have a team,
we'll read your words, and then we'll find places
for you to press in for more.
You will either love or hate this, okay?
But I promise you, it stretches you.
So a great example is, I use this one all the time.
I see this word everywhere.
A season of breakthrough is coming.
So then what would happen is I would go in
and I'd be like, that's so amazing.
Can you go to the Lord and ask like,
a season of breakthrough in what?
Their family, their career, their finances,
their dance moves?
When is it coming?
How is it coming?
Is there anything they can do to prepare for it?
And all I'm doing is what I tell them is like,
listen, it's okay, because I ask God questions
all the time, he doesn't answer, okay?
I'm not saying that you have to come up with an answer,
I'm just saying, did you ask?
You do not have, because you do not ask, right?
So we push you, right?
And then your words come back, they come in a report,
and then we teach you, once you get all your words,
we teach you how to process all those words.
How to pull out the identity, your gifts and skills,
identify what's coming, the actual intel, the scripture.
And that process is really helpful.
It is the number, I think it's one of the most impactful
ways to learn how to prophesy like a sharpshooter,
because then you start realizing where things land, right?
And then lastly, at the end, I also teach you
how to use this processing method
on how to apply it to the great prophetic report
that is our Bible.
So that is the prophetic report lab intensive.
I love that connection with the word, that is so cool.
Chris, come on up, and let's take this
to kind of another level too,
with the Spiritual Intelligence Institute.
And one of the things I love about
the Spiritual Intelligence Institute
is it doesn't just use prophecy,
but it's using a whole tool belt full of spiritual gifts
to access supernatural intelligence, so.
Yeah, so years ago, the Lord gave me this insight,
and I think I've shared just a little piece of it,
that there's IQ and EQ.
By the way, if you haven't studied emotional intelligence,
I'd really recommend that you get a book
and read a book on emotional intelligence.
But the Lord started talking about SQ,
Spiritual Intelligence.
And you know, Romans 12 says,
don't be conformed to this world,
but be transformed by the renewing of your mind.
So when you renew your mind, you think like God, right?
That's the goal.
But 1 Corinthians chapter two says
that we actually have access to the thoughts of God.
The thoughts of God isn't renewing,
it's not thinking like God, it's thinking God thoughts.
Let's say that your neighbor hates you,
and he throws junk over your fence,
and he cusses you out every day.
When you're thinking like God, you're thinking like Jesus,
and you're thinking like, well, what would Jesus do?
Well, he would love your enemy,
pray for those who persecute, so on and so forth.
And so, but, so you're loving Henry who hates you,
you're sending him cookies instead of cursing him,
you're being kind to him when he's not kind to you.
But when you tap into the mind of Christ,
you're not thinking like God.
You're actually thinking the thoughts of God
as if you Googled God.
And that, and out of that, you would say,
Lord, why does Henry hate me?
And he says, maybe the Lord says,
well, his father was a pastor, molested the children,
lived like hell Monday through, you know, Saturday,
and preached heaven on Sunday.
And when he sees you, he sees his father.
How many know I'm not thinking like God?
I'm thinking God thoughts.
And so years ago, the Lord gave me access
to actually learn how to develop neural pathways
into his thoughts.
And I started thinking, can I teach other people to do this?
First of all, can I do it more often?
And can I teach other people to do this?
And thus, we started, I wrote a book about it.
And after I wrote the book, my team was like,
man, this is really good.
We should like have some kind of training
where we can teach people how to have the gift of wisdom
and apply it to their, you know, with application,
how we can teach people to actually catch the mind of God
with words of knowledge.
And so we started developing some methods
that we can more proactively build neural pathways
to what we call SQ, spiritual intelligence.
And that created, we had out of like lots of dialogue,
like months and months of dialogue
with Dano and his teams too.
We started thinking,
we started actually creating a curriculum.
Didn't start out as a curriculum.
It started out as some thoughts
and how we could, you know, do this better and better
and make it more active.
And after a while, it became a curriculum.
Lindsay jumped in with her scientific
and intelligence community ideas.
And she's like, well, it could look like this.
And it could look like that.
And honestly, it...
emerged out of several conversations.
And then we did our first one,
Spiritual Intelligence Institute.
And it was so amazing.
How many of you in the room went through
the first round of SQ?
Woo!
Yeah.
Why don't you guys stand up?
We wanna see you guys.
Yeah.
Awesome.
So good.
Yes.
Yeah.
Way to go.
Thanks for being part, you guys.
And out of that, you know, Lindsey's got,
she's amazing, right?
Yeah.
Yes.
Her and her team started doing this double blind stuff.
You heard some about it,
about tapping into the mind of Christ,
solving problems.
And we ended up with very tough problems
that we got from government people
and all these different people were like,
could you, could your team do,
could we do an exercise with that?
So that's what SQ's about.
And you wanna say more about it, please?
Yeah, so the definition of intelligence
is the ability to acquire and apply intelligence, right?
So we're really good at acquiring spiritual information,
but we're like, we wanna plug and play.
So at SQ, we're gonna take you through practice
and we'll do like how you receive
and the practice of creating new neural pathways.
But then you go in these tanks,
like a think tank, but think like God tank.
You get put in these tanks and we go out,
this is the fun, risky part of it.
And we ask different kinds of people like in business
or the medical industry, entertainment.
And then we ask for a problem
and each tank gets assigned a problem.
And then they, through the spiritual intelligence,
aim to solve it.
And so it is really fun.
And that's what's so fun about it
is because you actually get to apply what you're learning
and like risk together with a team.
And yeah, so that's my favorite part of SQ.
And you've got kind of a fun little thing
for the expo today.
What is that?
You've got a riddle.
A riddle.
Yes, I do.
So you can start practicing right now.
Okay, tell them about that.
What is that?
Okay, so at our booth, we have a riddle.
And if you like, there's a place where you can email
and put in your answer for the riddle
and the answer will come back if you got it right or not.
And then we have a special like prize for you
to experience a taste of SQ if you want to join.
It's a series of videos.
And we did a riddle because in Proverbs,
it says like, if you want to understand wisdom,
what is it?
Help me remember the first.
All kinds of things.
Okay.
Wisdom and dark saying.
Dark saying.
That's the word I was looking for.
I knew that was your favorite for some reason.
Yeah, Solomon said he wrote the Proverbs
and one of the reasons was to understand riddles.
That's right.
Yeah.
So stop by, take your crack at the riddle.
If you get it right, it means you're officially a hobbit.
So.
Awesome.
Hey, let's roll the video for BSSM
as Haley and Chris tell us a little bit more
about that opportunity.
If you guys want to go ahead and hit the video.
We have a mandate to raise up a generation
that can openly display the raw power of God.
This is why you have to have an encounter with God
because then there's no turning back.
I mean, when you get so touched by God
and it is so undeniable that he is real,
it does something to you.
It changes the way you see life.
It changes your perspective.
It changes everything.
So much in my life that I relied
on my own spiritual knowledge,
on my own church experience.
When the Holy Spirit wanted to teach me more,
the same Spirit that lives in you
is the Spirit that raised Christ from the dead.
We are driven by a passion to raise up revivals
who will go into all the world,
live the gospel and release the kingdom
into every sphere of influence.
A world transformed through you.
We believe we owe the world an encounter with God.
Will you say yes?
Well, we came to Start to School Ministry 24 years ago.
We start with 37 students.
I had a great big vision that we're gonna have 300 students.
We had that in the third year
and continued to grow and grow.
And two years ago, we were the largest,
we are the largest church in the world.
And we're gonna have 300 students.
the largest vocational school in the history of America
We're gonna have a lot of people
that are gonna be in the ministry.
approved by Homeland Security.
We're gonna have a lot of people
that are gonna be in the ministry.
And yeah, last year we graduated 127 Germans.
Now just to be clear, you have to know English
to actually be in our school.
So besides Americans, that was the largest contingency
of internationals were Germans.
So we had 72 nations graduate last year.
And I'll say this, that people come for the supernatural,
but they stay for the family.
And it's nine months long, first year's nine months long.
Lots and lots of our students now are beginning
to stay second and third year.
Think around 70% of our students go to second year.
So that's just been growing as our second year class
becomes more and more proficient.
And second year is really dedicated to leadership.
So we're just raising up leaders
to go to the darkest corners of the planet.
And just actually see God's kingdom
actually established in terrible places.
And so it is a journey.
I think the greatest commentary is three of my grandkids
are in school ministry or have just graduated.
And they have all been transformed.
They grew up in my house and they still wanna go
to our school ministry, which is profound.
Ben's daughter's going to our school ministry this year.
Dano's kids have gone to our school ministry,
graduated from our school ministry.
So I'm very proud of our school.
I hope that you're proud of the things that you guys do.
I'm proud of our teams.
We have, I don't know, 120 people on our staff.
And now we have an online school.
And why don't you talk about a little bit
about the online school and also about school?
Yeah, well, I have the privilege of,
I mean, seeing some of our pioneers of our Spanish school.
Chris said we have an English school.
We actually also have a Spanish school.
We have a Spanish school now.
Online Spanish school.
And so I'm looking around the room and I'm seeing alumni,
I'm seeing current students, I'm seeing online students.
So I have the privilege of leading in a school
that I gave up everything to come to.
And it's the greatest privilege of my life
to be able to sow into an environment that changed my life
and not just my personal life, my family's life
and my parents and my family in South Africa.
In the season that I had a wild encounter with the Lord,
my mother also encountered God.
My family and our Methodist Church
are now currently affecting teaching courses and classes
from Supernatural Ways of Royalty.
My mom teaches it in South Africa.
And so I was in our second year on campus school
for 10 years, serving as a revival group pastor first
and then an overseer of the school.
And two years ago, Chris asked if I would go over
to pioneer our online school.
And I wanna tell you, I wasn't super sure
if our in-person school could fully translate online.
I just wanna be fully honest with you.
I didn't know if we would see
the same measure of breakthrough
and I have been blown away.
We've seen people delivered,
people filled with the Holy Spirit,
people healed, people set free.
In fact, I can't see Tisa now, but hi, Tisa.
Such a fun story, Tisa is one of our online students.
She just graduated second year.
Tisa wouldn't be able to come to our on-campus school.
Tisa is a revivalist, preaching the gospel
and prophesying over people.
When she's in the ambulance,
she's kindly dealing with a very rare disease
where her bones continue to grow.
And Tisa is just full of joy in the Holy Ghost.
One of our online students flew from Michigan
to pick up Tisa, there she is there,
and drove Tisa from Nevada to come to school this week.
And this, I just wanna say,
this isn't because we're some rare breed of humans.
It's because the Holy Spirit lives and dwells
with the believers.
And we're seeing God touch and connect people
from across the globe,
small groups who are connecting every year now,
meeting for a retreat together, who met online.
So if you're like, can you connect online?
You can connect online.
Can God touch you online?
God can touch you online.
I could tell you story after story.
I'll be really quick.
A man named Mark, he works in the business industry,
very high level CEO of a company.
Mark was radically touched by the Holy Spirit
during a worship, an online worship session.
God starts touching him.
He goes to his bed, he's lying in his bed,
and he's saying, God, what is happening to me?
And the Holy Spirit starts healing him
from past trauma in his life and takes him into memories.
This man is so changed by the power of the Holy Spirit.
When his family comes home,
they don't know what to do with him
because he's so loving and so affectionate,
and he had never been an affectionate father.
His adult daughter was on the on-campus school,
so was his wife.
He was doing online to provide for his family.
And they came home from school,
and they said, what happened to you?
And he said, still to this day,
his kids are trying to figure out how to handle
this loving father who wants to hug them and kiss them
because of how God redeemed and restored his.
history and it's changing their legacy.
So good. So we'd love to see you come to the
the booth. Where's our booth at? Our booth? It's in the East West room.
That makes no sense. Come there, talk to our teams. We have a bunch of teams
there that love to talk to you, share with you, and we also have a
discount there. I think everything that we're doing for you guys is
discounted. So that was kind of the deal.
Can I say one more thing real quick? You're going to, aren't you? I am, I am.
I'm your daughter. I know, it's a family affair.
I just want to say this, all the things that you heard about, I think some of
your, like, a lot of times when we're about to
take a leap of faith, we wonder if we're ready, we wonder if it's time, we want a
word, we want a sign, we want all of those things. I did it, I
asked for a sign and the Lord did it for me. But I just want to tell you, if
your heart is burning right now, if you are feeling stirred, I just want
to encourage you, like, it is time for the body to be
equipped. This isn't a sales pitch. This is,
this is what we believe. We believe God wants to transform the world and we are
doing what we know how to do, with what God's put in our hands, to say
let us, let us equip the world. And our dream is not
that you would come to schools. Our dream is that your life would be
transformed by the Lord and given the tools to equip you, not to
have a good one, two or three year experience, so that you will go
out and make a difference in the world. And so if you need to be equipped,
if you need to be revitalized, if you need to get caught up in the river of
God, in the momentum of the Spirit, I believe one of these programs really
will be for you and God will speak to you.
And you should jump out the boat and do it because you are worth it.
You're a valuable investment and the Lord sees you and He believes in you and
He will back you. I'm seeing a lot of questions in the chat.
Did you say there's a discount for the BSSM? There is a discount. Okay.
For first year. For first year. Okay. And guys, there is an online expo as well.
You guys are going to be very much a part. We have prepared opportunities for
you to meet with a live person. A live person. Yes. We have live people out
there. We're not using robots anymore. Well, we can do. Download the robots.
Yeah. And also, you know, we do trainings with dead people sometimes. Yeah.
The resurrection thing. But anyway. Oh, he's leaving me. Okay. So I know the
question is, which one should I do? Hey, listen, we're all for each other.
Like, these are just different expressions of the same community, of the
same heart, the same values. And if something resonates with you, then
check it out. So we wanted to create an opportunity because, again,
usually after School of the Prophets, there are a dozen questions about what's
next or how do I connect or how do I get more? And we just wanted to provide an
opportunity for you to explore that a little bit. So we're going to break
early today. Okay. And you're going to be able to go to the expo both online or
here on campus, just down the hall in the East West room. Check it out and then go
have your lunch and we will be back at somebody help me. I know the sessions at
two. So there's probably a giveaway at one forty five. I'm guessing I'm going to
go with that. All right. So be blessed. Enjoy the expo. Have a great lunch and we
will see you for the closing sessions and impartation.