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Good to see you, Marion and Bridget and Susie and Kathy, it's so good to see you.

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My screen just got blocked now I can't see your faces but there you are.

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Oh and Amy's here.

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Hello.

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Hello.

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Okay.

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If anyone has a win, a testimony, a praise Lord hallelujah, go ahead and unmute yourself

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and share because I just, I love starting our calls that way I feel like it just sets

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the atmosphere.

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If you would like to share.

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I just have to say you two look really cute.

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Okay, listen, I know we're matching that's not planned, guys, basically a standoff that

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I said that she was going to change and I said I was going to change and I wouldn't

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neither of us change both brains like we're on, we're using his iPhone.

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And it looks so Chris doesn't it, there's no lighting, we're literally using the sun

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as light.

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We have to look up there as well.

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I know I'm sorry I'm looking at the screen but so yay for iPhones.

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Hey Amy I see your hand.

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Okay, this is just kind of a surprise when for me because, like, I feel like I probably

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will not record one anything this month.

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And so I've been going back and repurposing some so I've done that twice, and oddly on

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Instagram they have like top 10,000 views each are repurposed one that didn't do that

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on the first round so amazing.

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Just see like, that is amazing because that's what we talked about that a little bit too

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like I've repurposed content before and it's like hey, some of our earlier videos, though

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really well done we just have our smaller audiences at the time so they didn't get as

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much engagement so go ahead and reuse that and see what happens that's pretty cool.

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Well done.

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Awesome.

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Okay, any more wins before we jump in today.

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Oh, I have one.

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It's just a testimony of going to sight and sound theater to see the story of David.

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And I did not know how much because you know we're all familiar, you know, with the story

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of David, you know, and so but just to see it come alive and to see God's compassion

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and, and his redemption, and, and I was just like, and just just some of the effects and

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everything I was meant like y'all I cried, I laughed, I did everything like I went through

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the range of, you know, it just brought it all alive and it just centered us back into

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the heart of worship.

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So I just wanted to share that, that it was just beautiful, just to remember, just to

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remember how compassionate our God is and how loving he is and he's always looking to

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redeem us, and that we can always run back to where it all begins and that's worship.

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So it was administered to me like no other, and although I already know the story of David,

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but it was just a reopening, it just came alive I was like a kid, you know, just looking

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at everything I'm telling y'all I went through a range of emotions in that theater.

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But so just wanted to share that.

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That's it.

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Check it out.

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I love when people utilize the arts right to share the word of God, and might I just

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add really fast, we are leading with sight and sound, I would say, really, that you would

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never you've not seen before, even how it's set up.

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It's not your normal just your stages right there.

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It's like, it's like a surround kind of thing.

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And so I just wanted to mention that, that we are leading in that area.

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That's encouraging.

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Hey, I just have a quick question, Bruce, did you find any lights that I could put on

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my list?

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I did.

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And I didn't send them to you.

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So I will send them.

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My kids are pestering me.

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That's a good thing, I guess.

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I'll post them here while we're talking into the channel.

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Thank you.

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Yeah, I'll just pull them up there just on my, yep, I'll send them.

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I'll drop those in the chat and anyone else who's looking for lights this Christmas can

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check those out as well.

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So today we're gonna so the conversation today we're going to continue because again, guys,

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we are if you didn't join us last week, we talked about how we are in the messy middle,

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right?

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So sometimes in the messy middle, we feel less clear than when we first started.

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Sometimes I can feel discouraging, because we think, oh, my gosh, what have I done?

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I want to go back to the beginning.

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I need to pull back, I need to get clear.

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clear again. But the most important thing to do in the

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messy middle is to keep advancing, keep moving forward.

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And we had a great conversation last week, and we really touched

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on, you know, the business side of what it is that we're doing

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and the way that we're structuring our ministry, the

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way we're thinking about things. And you guys have heard me say

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this before, we're not really interested in telling you guys

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what to think about what it is you're building, but we'd love

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to share with you a way of how to think. We like to talk about

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mindsets and beliefs that have helped us advance and move

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forward. And what we're doing and the way that we're doing

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things. It's certainly not the only way to do things. And in no

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way do we mean to diminish how maybe somebody else is doing

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things, how other people are structuring their ministries.

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But what we are doing, we really strongly believe in because

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we're experiencing it firsthand. And so today, we want to talk a

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little bit more about the business side of ministry,

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because I feel like especially in the messy middle, it's

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helpful, because we're going to kind of go out a little bit and

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see the whole picture. Yeah, again, you can kind of see where

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you are in your own journey. And it will help you kind of get

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more precise and where you are in that journey. So we're gonna

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talk a little bit about value ladders, the value ladder, and

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we'll share kind of our own just as an example. And if there's

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any questions that come up, or there's some specific things you

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have about where I'm at, you know, we can always have the

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second half of this call to talk about that. So yeah,

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and I do want to just start by saying like, the a lot if you

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guys have been in part of coaching programs or things like

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this, like there, there is a whole coaching industry, right.

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And I think that sometimes we can get like put off by some of

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those things. I would just say that there are things in the

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coaching industry that can be redeemed, right, that very much

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mimic kind of what we would see as like a spiritual father,

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mother, and more of a discipleship model. And so I'm

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not saying like everything in that space is like kingdom,

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right? That's not what we're saying.

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Just like, just like when you think of other sites, you would

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think of, it's how we were redeeming social media,

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marketing, even like we've talked about how worldly

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marketing is, is speaking to the orphan spirit, which is not

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kingdom at all using manipulation and fear tactics

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and fear missing out on all that stuff. So as sons of God, we

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believe that any industry, any arena in the in creation is for

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is for us to take territory in and redeem. And so the same as

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with within the coaching program. So you guys might see

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stuff that feels very gimmicky, very slick, very salesy, very

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pushy from like the coaching industry. And that is for us to

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redeem not to avoid. That's what we believe. Yeah.

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Yeah. And again, doing, you know, in your own style and

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stuff. So we can, you know, we've, we think that there's

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like, there is a kingdom way to do this stuff. There's a kingdom

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way to invite people into different things, but not to

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where it doesn't feel icky, I guess. But I don't want to just

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like, we don't want to throw out the whole thing, right? Because

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that is really the mentoring and coaching and all that stuff,

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like very much comes, I think, from kind of a biblical model,

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we've followed up discipleship of, you know, fathers,

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spiritual fathers and mothers,

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because often what needs to be redeemed or restored had an

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original intent, right? It was birthed in kingdom, it was

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birthed in the heart of God. So coaching, like Bruce is saying,

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it's discipleship. Yeah, that is not a worldly concept that we

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need to now like, sprinkle like heaven's dust on it and like,

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you know, make it some a little bit better. It's like, no, there

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was an original intent for discipleship and what community

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would look like and what spiritual fatherhood and

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motherhood would look like and what spiritual family looks

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like. Now the world has caught part of that principle, and

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they're, they're gaining results, right? Because truth

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is truth. Jesus is not getting credit. And when Jesus is not

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in it, when there's not spirit in it, it leads to death, right?

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It can be sustained for only maybe a season, definitely not

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generational. And often it's leading people down a road to

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death, because it is not sourced from the source of life. And

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that is where the sons of God come in. And we bring things

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back to its original intent.

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Very good. Yeah. And so I'm looking down at the screen.

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Yeah, the camera's up there.

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Coach Bruce is helping me today.

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Yeah. So yeah, that's what we want to just dive into. Because

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I think, I'll say, kind of in our own journey, three years,

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like three, four years ago, and I guess before 2019, we had

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never, like invested in ourselves, never did a course,

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we never had a coach, we never had anyone where we had paid to

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be a part of any kind of program or anything. And honestly, I

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wouldn't even say like, I didn't even know there was a thing

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called the coaching industry. Like we just never, it wasn't

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like, one day we'll do that. It was just like, it just didn't

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even know about it.

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If anything, we might have known, like consulting right in

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business, like our like businesses would hire

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consultants, that was probably the closest thing. And maybe we

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knew, like what life coaching was, because we'd see ads on

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Facebook, but we never had engaged in that.

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And so and I think that through that, we've kind of, you know,

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the last few years, we probably

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been exposed to a lot of different things. We've tried a lot of different programs. I would say

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I think we've spent, I don't know, somewhere in the range of like $60,000 or $70,000 on like

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different programs in the last couple of years. So things escalated pretty quickly from going to

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literally the first time we did any kind of coaching, I think it was like $19 that we

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had to invest to be a part of a challenge or something. And that challenge actually totally

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changed our lives, changed our business, changed where we were.

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Because it changed our mind about things.

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Yeah. But it was the mindset of going from, hey, $19 is like a big step. It seemed like

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a waste of money. But what you'll find is like the people that you're helping,

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this is like bringing so much more transformation than any of the kind of dollar amounts that you're

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bringing. You can see this even when you're giving away free content on social media. You

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can bring about real change, real mindset shifts just for free, just by sharing. A lot of you are

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doing that already. But this now starts to say, okay, people want to go, not so much that they

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need more content or better content, but really they just want to grow faster. So typically it's

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about the speed is one of the most important things. So if someone was going to listen to

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you for the next two years on social media, but you could spend maybe four to eight weeks

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intensely meeting with them every couple of days, whatever. If you could compress that time down

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from like two years worth of following you down to a short time, that's where a program is great

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because it's an intensive, it brings focus to one area very intensely. So it's not about like,

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well, I've got my 10 step program and the two steps, one through three, I give away for free.

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And then four or five and six is this much money. And then seven, eight, nine is that much money.

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It's not really so much that it's more about like, how much can you compress down into time?

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And people will always like pay for speed. And people pay for the transformation as far as

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if you can help them go from where they are today to some better place, there's a different mindset.

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There's a different way of living. There's a different reality that they can step into.

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There's a breakthrough.

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If it's like the difference between kind of following you and just watching it on TikTok

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and YouTube videos for the next two years, or if you could spend a couple sessions with that person

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and help bring real transformation, that's where the value comes because you're actually saving them

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time by compressing it down.

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And what you're not doing is you're not rushing people through anything,

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but you're often accelerating what's been accumulating for years.

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That's what we have found.

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And the people that we've mentored is we're not like rushing them through something that's going

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to crush them or kind of rushing the immature into more immaturity.

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It's usually taking people through a system, steps that is helping accelerate all that's

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been accumulating in their hearts and in their journey with the Lord.

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And so that is the gift of mentorship.

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If you think about anyone that you've mentored or you've been mentored by,

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it's really leadership, right?

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It's we create this safe space for people to grow in the very thing it is that the desires

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of their hearts are what the Lord is calling them to.

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And that happens often because we've given them the gift of our presence,

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which then gives them the gift of like focus and clarity.

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And that's what brings about acceleration because people live very busy lives.

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People live very distracted lives these days.

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People live very, I would say like they kind of are used to living in a lack of clarity.

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And so when we give them kind of a program or a mentorship group, it allows them to like

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take time and focus and gain clarity.

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And that's what actually brings acceleration.

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Now let's just talk a little bit about like maybe just to bring it down to practical,

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like just like for posture.

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So there's not a lot of, there's less things to, I think, to explain, but you can kind of

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see how we built this out and built out our value ladder.

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So typically like the way that we like to think about this is we have, this is you, right?

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that shifts that have to happen to get to that new place.

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it could be living in a posture of perfect peace.

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It could be, you know, whatever,

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like diving into the prophetic.

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or there's some sort of goal that's out there

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that people are like, well, man,

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take them up the journey.

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You're taking them through all the things

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that you had to learn to get there.

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And you're just helping shorten their gap

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because this is what their journey could look like.

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It probably went more like this, right?

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To the goal.

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Cause you were trying stuff and experimenting

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and you're like learning it and it's taking time.

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a much more direct route.

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when we were helping do the social media

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like what Lizzie was saying is like the messy middle

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is like, no one really like shows that.

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hey, generally I think it's gonna look something like this.

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and we're trying to edit it and show,

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okay, if you just did A, B and C,

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this will be get you a lot faster.

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for the first six months to a year.

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we're like, that's actually where you should start.

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Like you should start with the short form stuff

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and that's why we teach it.

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because we wanna help people get to that destination faster

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and get that momentum as fast as possible.

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is that you're, you know, there's steps,

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there's probably different things people have to learn

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to, you know, to get to that.

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ways to kind of go about it.

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And now pulling that out just a little bit further

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in the Kingdom Messenger context,

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that journey where, you know,

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you kind of have from the starting point to like the flag,

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there's maybe multiple journeys

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in your journeying with your Who.

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like we, this flag represents launching

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for people who are just getting started with us, right?

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Like we can't start talking about reaching 100,000

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if they don't have even two people following them.

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Or they've never done a video before, right?

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So we do our launch challenges and that's a whole journey.

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And some people will only take that journey with us

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and that's fine, right?

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So they'll join a challenge and they'll launch

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and then we'll never see them again

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or they'll be a part of the community

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and they'll pop in and give us little updates,

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but that's an entire journey

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that some people will take with us.

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and they've launched, they need to start a new journey.

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And that is how do I scale this, right?

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It's kind of like a new problem has formed

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that they didn't have before they even launched a channel.

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It's like, now I need to know how to grow this.

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And so they can go on another journey with us.

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And that's like a different journey of like, let's scale,

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That's been our intensives in the past.

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It's like, we now help you kind of scale.

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and building those creative reps.

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I have 5,000 people following me.

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that you didn't have before when you didn't have 10,000

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people following, which was, which has, I know,

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I'm sorry I'm so fast.

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When you had 10,000 people following you.

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And that was, hey, I want to bring people to a deeper level.

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I have this large net and I have a lot of people in this net.

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Now I kind of want to bring them into a deeper dive

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with me on something else.

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mode and more of a mentorship mode, or hey,

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I actually want to start making money doing this

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so that it's something I can spend more of my time doing.

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And it's not just a side thing that I'm doing, right?

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So then we, you know, that could be advancement.

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So the point is for some of you, you're like,

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I'm only interested, like where I'm at right now.

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Like when we started, we only had the one journey in mind

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and that was helping people launch.

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We didn't know that we would be doing advancement

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a year later or a membership, or even the first challenge,

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we didn't know that we would be ending really

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with an intensive because we didn't even know

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what the challenge would, you know, bring.

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And then we were, you know,

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it was a seven-day challenge, our first one.

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So we were like in day, I think three or four,

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and we're like, people were asking like, what's your offer?

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How do we work with you?

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How do we work with you?

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And like, maybe we should.

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Consider truly we were like building it as we were going, because we really weren't we didn't know we didn't know when no one was hiring us to help them with this right at the time right, so we were we were experimenting, and so the all that to say,

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and this should alleviate any pressure if there is pressure is you can truly build this as you go and new journeys may unfold as you bring your who into deeper and deeper layers with you.

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Yeah, and I would just say like, you know, when we, when you're starting this and you're thinking of either doing a challenge or something in that first year just to get people started, or maybe you're putting out, you know, some doing some live

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like a workshop workshop or something.

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You know, we didn't have a very nice content plan, the plan was get on a bunch of zooms and teach the group, every single thing we knew about it and I think I would say we covered more ground in seven days than we did in like the last eight week intensive,

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like we talked about people way too much stuff like it was, yeah, but because we were like, Oh, they also need to know this and we also knew that and by the end of it we're like, Oh, this is actually like a 90 day program like we, you know, but people felt that and

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they're like, Oh my gosh I, you know, so a lot of times like we can teach the tactics and stuff. And that's what we did in the first time but really what you want to do in that first time is to really focus on kind of mindset shifts, because you only have a couple days

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it's a small like group if you're doing a challenge or something, which I would highly recommend everybody try at least once and get a, you know, even if it's five people or 10 people jumping on a zoom with you, it will be very motivating to have those people

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taking notes asking questions you're like oh my gosh what I'm sharing is actually valuable.

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And then you also get incredible feedback that helps you then build out what it is you're wanting to do next. Yeah, we couldn't have theorized what it was that kingdom messengers needed until we started connecting with kingdom messengers.

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And that's what our, we call them workshops at the time but challenges another word for it. Some people call them summits or, you know, virtual seminars but when we spent seven days with kingdom messengers, it was such incredible priceless really feedback that we got

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that gave us so much more innovation and ideas of what it was that we were actually building yeah which we probably couldn't have done just sitting now in a room by ourselves kind of whiteboard this right think of stuff so.

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So, so that's all I was just going to say like, don't feel like you have to have a plan, you know, if you're just like, hey, generally like the, the flag I'm trying to get people to that first goal is just this one idea, and then I probably need to teach, you

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know, five sessions or five sessions that will get people to that, you know, standpoint, and try to break it down into like a short win. So instead, our first challenge was like launch your entire kingdom channel on every single platform in seven days.

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And then the most recent one is, we decided how to start building your stadium size audience was just getting people to think that online could actually be significant. And then at the end we're like, hey, we recommend short form content.

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Here's some tips on Tick Tock right we don't overwhelm people with stuff so it's actually we spend more time taking away and making it simpler, it's a gift.

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to be able to do the work of editing, you know, it shows value and honor for their time and again it's what acceleration is what mentorship is is you kind of you take your own journey and you edit it in a way that is, people can take the steps and they

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don't have to go on the rabbit trail. Yeah, went on.

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So, maybe let's just take a second because I know we're talking a lot I'd love to just hear some shares or ahas or anything.

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I know some of you guys have done challenges and kind of in like some of the sounds familiar.

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Walters nodding his head.

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Maybe it would be helpful to show just kind of what our current like, like the value ladder is for Kingdom Messengers like what we currently have built out. Okay.

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If we can I think green focus really on the first piece. Yeah.

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Bruce is doing wanting to do the gift of editing for you guys so that's good.

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Is that helpful like it's just thinking through like you guys have decades of experience in some places like with your, with your topic I'm like I'm thinking of my mom, who's doing kingdom parenting like she's been a parent for a long time, about the same

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time, I would say.

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And so there's decades of wisdom and learning and trials and what you're trying to do is either in the form of a book or a challenge you're trying to like just waking people up to like one of the

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those things, but it's taken a long time to get to that.

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But you can tell people, people can read a book,

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they can do a quick challenge,

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maybe spend a couple of sessions with you

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or watch a few videos.

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And it just gets them thinking about it.

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What people are really after is that transformation.

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Like they, in the family context,

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like people want to have a kingdom,

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be able to be kingdom parents and have that kingdom family

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and it to look a certain way and to function a certain way.

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And so just reading a book or just watching a TikTok,

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like it'll spark an idea,

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but it's not really gonna like move them as far as,

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I think that's where the discipleship piece comes in

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and the mentorship part comes in

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because it's answering their questions,

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as things pop up where they,

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you told them to go, like suggested this,

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they go off and try it and they come back

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and like, that didn't work.

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So, give me some other options.

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Like it's that kind of back and forth

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that you can really help, say people at the time.

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So.

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I can comment.

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Yeah, go for it.

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I was thinking of the best ways I could contribute.

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I think what it forced me to do is exactly,

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I've been doing parenting as a person for 30 something years,

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but then, and of course, along the road,

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my husband and I were constantly helping people,

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but it was more in the form of counseling

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or just friendship.

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And I think once we got into this new season,

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we realized this is, people, unfortunately,

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I think people do generally take things more seriously

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when they're paying and they,

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cause they're bringing some kind of commitment

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to the program.

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And so, literally for at least 20 years of that,

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we never charged anybody.

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And it's only in the last two years

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that we've really been trying to see.

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And it's not because I want the money

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as much as I want the people to be invested in the program.

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And so, that was our learning.

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I think, unfortunately, my who is the age group

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pretty much 18 to 35 or 40 years old.

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And not only are they busy parenting,

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but they just don't have the time to sit down

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and read a whole book.

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And especially my book is a whole thing of parenting

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from the day your child's born,

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right until you let them leave the nest

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and go off to college,

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including that last chapter of being their friend.

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And so, it's not the kind of book

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you'd sit down and read overnight.

460
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So, I think that we've seen the real need in the market

461
00:27:29.120 --> 00:27:30.720
is to go step-by-step with them.

462
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And it's really that we parenting the parents.

463
00:27:33.200 --> 00:27:35.600
When Dionne and I get on the calls,

464
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we're parenting them.

465
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And the fact that they're paying

466
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or they've joined our Kingdom Parenting Community

467
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is that they actually investing in their part of it.

468
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But we're still trying to figure out

469
00:27:47.320 --> 00:27:49.240
the actual coaching, one-on-one coaching,

470
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because that isn't really sustainable.

471
00:27:51.660 --> 00:27:52.500
So, I've kind of avoided it,

472
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but I've been asked by several people

473
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if I will do one-on-one.

474
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So, I'm at that point,

475
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I'd rather do it without money,

476
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but I know there's a balance of keeping it

477
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just for the investment sake.

478
00:28:04.660 --> 00:28:06.140
So, and let me just tell you one thing,

479
00:28:06.140 --> 00:28:07.420
when we did do the challenge,

480
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Bruce and Lindsay said,

481
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are you sure you want to do it after working?

482
00:28:10.460 --> 00:28:11.940
I'm like, oh, the challenge will be fun

483
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until I actually did it.

484
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And it was exhausting.

485
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I didn't realize how much

486
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it was going to actually take out of us.

487
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So, I did a full 12 hours at work

488
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and then we came in an hour later,

489
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we jumped on the first, the challenge.

490
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And I'm like, okay,

491
00:28:25.840 --> 00:28:27.880
I definitely should have listened to Bruce and Lindsay.

492
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And so, the next time we did it,

493
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I took two days before we started off.

494
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So, if you haven't done it before,

495
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take Bruce and Lindsay's advice.

496
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They've been there and done that

497
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and they are a lot younger than me.

498
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And so, they probably really were trying to tell me.

499
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And then they did bring us dinner one night

500
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and I was so glad

501
00:28:45.300 --> 00:28:46.720
because I hadn't even thought of trying to eat

502
00:28:46.720 --> 00:28:48.280
before we did our call.

503
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So, that was just a practical thing, yeah.

504
00:28:52.700 --> 00:28:53.540
Awesome.

505
00:28:53.540 --> 00:28:54.460
Yeah, and I think,

506
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would you wanna retell anything?

507
00:28:56.740 --> 00:28:57.740
Yeah, no, I was just gonna say,

508
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I think, and a part of that is,

509
00:29:00.420 --> 00:29:01.980
when we did our first challenge,

510
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you were eight months pregnant.

511
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And so, you were, to say we were tired,

512
00:29:06.140 --> 00:29:07.820
like we, you know, it was great.

513
00:29:07.820 --> 00:29:09.580
Well, I think Monica hopped on here for a second.

514
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She was on that first challenge.

515
00:29:12.120 --> 00:29:14.220
And so, maybe we were tired, I don't know.

516
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But-

517
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She's nodding her head.

518
00:29:19.280 --> 00:29:21.820
Hey, Amy, I see your hand, yeah.

519
00:29:28.640 --> 00:29:32.280
Well, this is to your former,

520
00:29:32.280 --> 00:29:36.600
your question earlier about,

521
00:29:37.840 --> 00:29:39.600
I guess, some feedback about where we are.

522
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So, anyway, but I was just, it's helping me,

523
00:29:43.000 --> 00:29:45.720
this like, this is really helping me

524
00:29:46.660 --> 00:29:48.260
because I've kind of struggled

525
00:29:48.260 --> 00:29:51.820
with what I've come up with for my landing page,

526
00:29:51.820 --> 00:29:55.140
but I just keep coming back to where it started for me,

527
00:29:55.140 --> 00:29:59.700
which was prayer and praying the word of God.

528
00:30:00.000 --> 00:30:16.000
And I could see where that would go and really travel to the places that I've been and just some condensing the time that it took me to go from point A to point B.

529
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And it would be an easy challenge.

530
00:30:20.000 --> 00:30:32.000
Yeah, I mean like my offering my free offering is just the first prayer that I believe, like determine the trajectory of my life, you know, became my life first.

531
00:30:32.000 --> 00:30:47.000
And, but anyway, that's what I was going to say it's just all of a sudden taking form and making sense, like you don't have to like pick it all right now which I was thinking out there's so many places I would like to go but just starting

532
00:30:47.000 --> 00:30:55.000
with the basics and pulling in that group and growing with those who want to keep growing.

533
00:30:55.000 --> 00:31:04.000
Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, it's often more simple than we think because our journeys we look back there was complexity to it right because we were pioneering stuff.

534
00:31:04.000 --> 00:31:16.000
And so there was the rabbit trails there was a loop de loops all those things. This is what we found what we're trying to say earlier when we were talking about our first challenge is we kind of, we just gave everything that we had because that's,

535
00:31:16.000 --> 00:31:30.000
we just didn't know any better. We've realized over time with a lot of wisdom and feedback from people that Russell Brunson who is the founder of click funnels which is a software that we use he's he calls it the big domino.

536
00:31:31.000 --> 00:31:45.000
What is, what is the big idea or the big domino that if you change people's mind and that one big idea that everything else would be an easy yes for them to move forward with you because they now share that belief or that mindset with you.

537
00:31:45.000 --> 00:31:55.000
And so for us we realized it what our big domino was the social media is a mission field like no other.

538
00:31:55.000 --> 00:32:09.000
That it's actually a mission field that the internet is it's just like moving, just like going to China or going to a neighborhood or another country like it is it's a mission field, because if people can get to that place where hey my screen is a stage

539
00:32:09.000 --> 00:32:24.000
and social media is a mission field, then everything else we taught would be a much easier way forward, because they we now have that shared belief, because going back into my journey, that was what changed the game for me was I realized that the screen

540
00:32:24.000 --> 00:32:38.000
was my stage all these prophetic words that I had about speaking to arenas full of people and these desire my heart to build large ministry and reach people at scale could actually be fulfilled through a screen, not necessarily like a bunch of speaker

541
00:32:38.000 --> 00:32:50.000
gigs and a book deal and the traditional route that I was thinking all these things that had to take place. And so, to your point, Amy, the big domino is praying the Word of God changes things.

542
00:32:51.000 --> 00:33:05.000
The Word of God in my mouth moves things right and if people can take that next step with you if you can knock over that domino, if you will, and their heads and hearts, then moving forward in a, in a program or a mentorship capacity with you as much easier because

543
00:33:06.000 --> 00:33:11.000
of praying the Word of God changes things and this is how we, this is a lifestyle.

544
00:33:11.000 --> 00:33:13.000
Right.

545
00:33:13.000 --> 00:33:32.000
And I would say like, try to pick very specific things like how to pray prayers for, like, I'm trying to get options but limit it down at the one example I had was for my mom like if you're talking about parenting like from zero to when like your kids are getting

546
00:33:32.000 --> 00:33:45.000
married, I mean there's so much to talk about and those are also a lot of different who's in there. So having a challenge that's like how to parent toddlers, you know, or kids under five or something like that pick up you pick and so you just niche down to that

547
00:33:45.000 --> 00:33:58.000
one thing like hey, I'm helping you with this piece to this piece here's the kinds of problems you're going to have, you know when kids are two, you're not going to have when they're 20 so you can actually talk very specifically to the two year old type problems,

548
00:33:59.000 --> 00:34:12.000
like, so for most people to your point that's a great point like for Amy's situation, the flag, the people are like, when people are wake up, and they're like, you know, going about their days and they're coming across barriers.

549
00:34:12.000 --> 00:34:20.000
They're not necessarily thinking you know what I need to be doing, I need to be learning how to pray the Word of God, or praying effectively.

550
00:34:21.000 --> 00:34:33.000
That's, that's what they probably need, but it's not necessarily what they want it's not necessarily the thought that they're having in their head. It's probably much more simple than that, like the thought which is, you know, I need to break through, I need to get

551
00:34:33.000 --> 00:34:47.000
over my perfectionism, or I need to like late, like, I can't keep up with trying to be perfect all the time you know whatever the language is and Amy it's often probably the language that you were speaking to yourself at the time the things that you were

552
00:34:47.000 --> 00:35:00.000
feeling in your own heart. It's that that peep that's there, that's the flag in their head if I can just get up that hill. If I could just not, you know, be so controlling, or if I could just not have such high standards or whatever it

553
00:35:00.000 --> 00:35:04.800
perfectionist is thinking or it might not even be something that they're necessarily feeling about

554
00:35:04.800 --> 00:35:08.560
themselves. It might just be feeling about what they're thinking about everyone else around them.

555
00:35:08.560 --> 00:35:16.880
Like if I could just be more content. And so, but, but so you bring them in speaking their language

556
00:35:16.880 --> 00:35:21.360
and then you share with them what it actually is that they need. Right. Like, not that you can't

557
00:35:21.360 --> 00:35:25.440
talk about, Hey, we're going to pray the word of God, but you can, you don't start with where this

558
00:35:25.440 --> 00:35:30.400
is a challenge about praying the word of God. You go a little bit more specific. Hey, for the next

559
00:35:30.400 --> 00:35:34.000
three days, we're going to talk about overcoming perfectionism and living a lifestyle of peace

560
00:35:34.800 --> 00:35:39.600
or living a lifestyle of power. And we're going to do that. And you can share about that kind of

561
00:35:39.600 --> 00:35:42.960
in your like marketing pieces or your language. Like we're going to do that because I'm going to

562
00:35:42.960 --> 00:35:47.360
share with you the number one thing that completely changed every after decades of

563
00:35:47.360 --> 00:35:51.520
living a perfectionist life. This was the thing that changed and it was praying the word of God.

564
00:35:51.520 --> 00:35:54.320
So you can share that's what we're going to be doing, but you're sharing it from this,

565
00:35:54.320 --> 00:35:58.640
from the place of the flag that they're flying in their head. Like if I could just get to that

566
00:35:59.280 --> 00:36:04.560
helping cause you're connecting the dots for them because otherwise they, it will go over their head

567
00:36:04.560 --> 00:36:12.640
often. So, uh, and as well, like sometimes those big mindset shifts are just correcting bad thinking

568
00:36:12.640 --> 00:36:18.560
as well. Like you, you may even just spend three days with them getting rid of doubt that prayer

569
00:36:18.560 --> 00:36:23.440
doesn't actually work. Like we're sometimes prayer works and sometimes their prayers don't work.

570
00:36:25.280 --> 00:36:30.640
Yeah. Self-doubt like everybody else. He hears everybody else's prayers, but he didn't hear mine

571
00:36:30.640 --> 00:36:37.920
that. Yeah. And those are the types of things that you're using to just like basically meet

572
00:36:37.920 --> 00:36:41.280
them where they're at and we're at the bottom of the Hill. Like go back to that. Like they're

573
00:36:41.280 --> 00:36:46.320
looking at this thing, like, Oh, all these people are over up there on the Hill by the flag. Like

574
00:36:46.320 --> 00:36:51.120
they've already, they're praying prayers and they're all getting answered. Um, I'm I pray

575
00:36:51.120 --> 00:36:55.840
prayers and I don't know if they happen or sometimes that happens or whatever. So you're

576
00:36:55.840 --> 00:37:00.080
just kind of like meeting them where they're at. Like, Hey, I get it. Like I was down here,

577
00:37:00.080 --> 00:37:06.560
like with you, you know, 10 years ago or 20 years ago. And this is what I've learned.

578
00:37:06.560 --> 00:37:12.400
And I feel like Laura's taught me how to pray prayers of significance that are impactful. Um,

579
00:37:12.400 --> 00:37:17.440
yeah. And Graham and I, Graham and I did this with his crafted prayer book. So we did a challenge

580
00:37:17.440 --> 00:37:22.160
around crafted prayer. So if you're not familiar with that, it's simply crafting prayers, writing

581
00:37:22.160 --> 00:37:26.960
out prayers and praying them kind of in, in a repetition and agreement. And that's something

582
00:37:26.960 --> 00:37:31.120
that Graham does. It's not the only way to pray, but it's really effective way to pray. And it's

583
00:37:31.120 --> 00:37:35.280
something that Graham's been practicing for years. So we didn't run a quote unquote crafted prayer

584
00:37:35.280 --> 00:37:38.000
challenge. Cause like a lot of people are like, what the heck is crafted prayer?

585
00:37:39.520 --> 00:37:43.520
What we did is we talked about how to pray prayers that always get answered.

586
00:37:43.520 --> 00:37:50.320
Oh, that's interesting. Right. And we talked about, um, praying and then we brought people

587
00:37:50.320 --> 00:37:55.200
in and we talked about, you know, praying the word of God, praying things that were in alignment with

588
00:37:55.200 --> 00:37:59.040
his will and with heaven. And then we talked and then we taught how to do the craft of prayers,

589
00:37:59.040 --> 00:38:05.040
but it wasn't like the marking piece was just, it was really focusing on that, that question mark

590
00:38:05.040 --> 00:38:11.360
in people's hearts of like, why do my prayers not seem to get answered? How do I pray? And, um,

591
00:38:11.360 --> 00:38:16.240
another line that we used was what to pray when you don't know what to pray. Yeah. Because a lot

592
00:38:16.240 --> 00:38:20.720
of people get stuck there. I know I need to pray. I don't know what to pray, especially when life is

593
00:38:20.720 --> 00:38:25.680
overwhelming. And so we're meeting people where they were, so we could bring them up the Hill.

594
00:38:25.680 --> 00:38:30.960
Yeah. And, you know, there are mindset shifts that have to happen there. Like you're saying

595
00:38:30.960 --> 00:38:35.200
like, Oh, the prayers doesn't work. I don't know what to pray. Like you can probably just

596
00:38:35.200 --> 00:38:39.920
brainstorm some of those things of what potentially is holding people back. Um, I think for kingdom

597
00:38:39.920 --> 00:38:46.080
messengers, it was social media is for Gen Z and millennials. Um, so that was like the first big

598
00:38:46.080 --> 00:38:51.840
thing. And then social media is not really for ministry, uh, or, or actual ministry can't take

599
00:38:51.840 --> 00:38:56.880
place on social media. There's like a lot of things pushed back, um, the technology, right?

600
00:38:56.880 --> 00:39:02.480
Like everybody, that's the big thing. Like, Oh, I wouldn't know how to, you know, cause generally

601
00:39:02.480 --> 00:39:07.840
not you guys, but other people are looking for, you know, every time you're taking, especially

602
00:39:07.920 --> 00:39:15.040
in your first group, they're looking for reasons to disqualify themselves, right. Constantly. And

603
00:39:15.040 --> 00:39:20.640
they're looking for a reason. Well, I I'm not tech savvy. I'm not, I'm not young enough. I'm not

604
00:39:20.640 --> 00:39:24.880
old enough. I'm not, you know, whatever you can profound enough. I'm not, I don't have anything

605
00:39:24.880 --> 00:39:31.120
to say, you know, I don't have the right education or, you know, this other person is better at this

606
00:39:31.120 --> 00:39:35.200
than, you know, and they're already doing it and things like that. So we have to, you know, people

607
00:39:35.200 --> 00:39:41.040
are looking for those things. Like Amy saying for her prayer example, people are saying, Oh, well,

608
00:39:41.040 --> 00:39:46.720
this, uh, you know, maybe prayers work for you because this, or maybe prayers because you've been

609
00:39:46.720 --> 00:39:50.640
a Christian for decades and I'm just a new Christian. Like, you know, so there's like

610
00:39:50.640 --> 00:39:55.120
all these things that people will disqualify themselves. So you're just helping shift

611
00:39:55.120 --> 00:39:59.840
mindsets to break people free and move them forward into something, into a better.

612
00:40:00.000 --> 00:40:03.520
reality. Yeah. And often it's again, it's that one big domino.

613
00:40:03.520 --> 00:40:06.320
It's the one big idea that knocks down all the other little

614
00:40:06.320 --> 00:40:08.880
dominoes because there's, you know, there's endless excuses

615
00:40:08.880 --> 00:40:12.120
and you can't necessarily address all of the excuses. But

616
00:40:12.120 --> 00:40:15.360
often there's one big idea that if you just got people past that

617
00:40:15.360 --> 00:40:18.680
hurdle, that doubt or that unbelief, and they started

618
00:40:18.680 --> 00:40:21.840
believing this thing, it would shift so much that they could

619
00:40:21.840 --> 00:40:24.160
then move, you know, move forward and get that momentum.

620
00:40:24.920 --> 00:40:27.640
Let's say Amy's first thing was just that first breakthrough of

621
00:40:27.640 --> 00:40:31.880
like, okay, prayer works. And I can pray prayers that that get

622
00:40:31.880 --> 00:40:35.160
answered. Like that's the only domino. Great. I did my three to

623
00:40:35.160 --> 00:40:39.760
five days with Amy, and I'm so excited. But now you've all of

624
00:40:39.760 --> 00:40:44.400
a sudden created a new problem for that for Amy's who, and that

625
00:40:44.400 --> 00:40:47.760
is, okay, how do I like how do I actually develop a habit of

626
00:40:47.760 --> 00:40:51.800
prayer in my daily life? Like, I've got it like in my head. But

627
00:40:51.800 --> 00:40:54.680
how do I have that habit now? So now you can say, well, you know,

628
00:40:54.680 --> 00:40:59.800
hey, we're going to do a 30 day or 60 day 90 day prayer group

629
00:40:59.800 --> 00:41:01.520
thing where we're going to encourage each other, we're

630
00:41:01.520 --> 00:41:03.200
going to be this is how it's going to work. And we're going

631
00:41:03.200 --> 00:41:06.720
to help you develop a habit of praying these prayers. So now

632
00:41:06.720 --> 00:41:10.560
yes, it works. But now you got to now you got to actually walk

633
00:41:10.560 --> 00:41:13.760
it out and make it up your lifestyle. Yeah. And it's way

634
00:41:13.760 --> 00:41:17.080
better to do that in a community than by yourself and all those

635
00:41:17.080 --> 00:41:20.440
things. And so because if we just said, hey, launch on social

636
00:41:20.440 --> 00:41:23.080
media, go do your thing. And then we just let everybody go

637
00:41:23.080 --> 00:41:25.880
like, that's the worst thing we could do, because now we just

638
00:41:26.440 --> 00:41:29.160
help them change their mindset. And then we didn't really give

639
00:41:29.160 --> 00:41:33.280
them the tools to go do anything with it. Right. And that's where

640
00:41:33.320 --> 00:41:36.520
we have to we kind of once you start down this track, and you

641
00:41:36.520 --> 00:41:38.680
kind of look at like the trajectory of each of these

642
00:41:38.680 --> 00:41:41.240
different steps. This is where you know, you can have different

643
00:41:41.240 --> 00:41:44.920
programs or courses or things to help people with each of these

644
00:41:44.920 --> 00:41:47.440
new problems that you create, you know,

645
00:41:47.520 --> 00:41:51.360
and what's beautiful is that you don't it doesn't mean that you're

646
00:41:51.360 --> 00:41:53.520
with these people for the next 10 years, because oh, there's so

647
00:41:53.520 --> 00:41:56.800
much more to do. What what happens what we have found has

648
00:41:56.800 --> 00:42:01.560
happened is you have, there's something powerful, I'll kind of

649
00:42:01.560 --> 00:42:04.400
speak to the spiritual element of this. When we made powerful

650
00:42:04.400 --> 00:42:09.200
choices. Yes, I'm going to do this. I believe that it's like

651
00:42:09.200 --> 00:42:13.520
heavens resources get attracted to that choice. Maybe I don't

652
00:42:13.520 --> 00:42:15.800
have the right language for it. But this is just how I see it.

653
00:42:15.800 --> 00:42:20.120
Right? Like, because God takes our will, our choices very

654
00:42:20.120 --> 00:42:24.240
seriously, he gives us a choice. And so when we as sons

655
00:42:24.240 --> 00:42:27.600
and daughters of God make a choice, it's like heaven's like,

656
00:42:28.480 --> 00:42:30.960
and I think part of that is because we just become more

657
00:42:30.960 --> 00:42:33.880
aware of what heaven's already doing what heaven's already

658
00:42:33.880 --> 00:42:36.760
sending our way, right? Because we become opened up, we've

659
00:42:36.760 --> 00:42:39.840
opened up our hearts to it. Yeah. But I also think that now

660
00:42:39.840 --> 00:42:43.560
heaven is released to our choice, right? It's like, okay,

661
00:42:43.760 --> 00:42:47.000
they said, Yes, we're going to partner on this. Yeah. And so

662
00:42:47.000 --> 00:42:51.240
what we have found is like, there are other people that God

663
00:42:51.240 --> 00:42:55.440
has brought in our path that, like, say, there's been keen

664
00:42:55.440 --> 00:42:58.240
messengers that have needed something more, like, say, like,

665
00:42:58.240 --> 00:43:01.240
there's keen messengers that have needed agency work, but we

666
00:43:01.240 --> 00:43:03.200
don't really, we don't do agency work so much anymore. But

667
00:43:03.200 --> 00:43:05.280
they're like, I want someone to run the social media channel for

668
00:43:05.280 --> 00:43:09.560
us, like, we have this network of people, because we're on

669
00:43:09.560 --> 00:43:12.480
this, this track with the Lord, and he's brought people in our

670
00:43:12.480 --> 00:43:15.080
path that like, we can say, Hey, you should connect with this

671
00:43:15.080 --> 00:43:17.680
person, or you should do this program, or this would be

672
00:43:17.680 --> 00:43:20.720
helpful for you. We don't offer that. And we're not intending to

673
00:43:20.720 --> 00:43:22.480
offer that, like, we don't really feel like we need to

674
00:43:22.480 --> 00:43:25.960
offer that. But here's where you can go. So you will find like,

675
00:43:26.000 --> 00:43:28.160
you might be thinking, especially those of you on the

676
00:43:28.160 --> 00:43:31.480
call, who are planners and analyzers, you're like, okay,

677
00:43:31.480 --> 00:43:34.320
but where does like, where does this go? Because I don't I don't

678
00:43:34.320 --> 00:43:36.560
necessarily want to be doing like one on one coaching, and

679
00:43:36.560 --> 00:43:39.400
people will eventually need that from me. We don't do one on one

680
00:43:39.400 --> 00:43:44.600
coaching. Yeah, I guarantee you that if it's not you, there will

681
00:43:44.600 --> 00:43:47.600
be people in your path that you can easily lead people to which

682
00:43:47.600 --> 00:43:50.960
isn't which is what fathers and mothers do, right? They resource

683
00:43:50.960 --> 00:43:54.040
their children spiritually, biologically, like they

684
00:43:54.160 --> 00:43:57.320
resource those kids with, hey, I can't teach you calculus, but I

685
00:43:57.320 --> 00:43:59.520
know, I'm going to hire you a tutor that's going to help you

686
00:43:59.520 --> 00:44:03.200
in this, right? It's the same principle. And so don't let the

687
00:44:03.200 --> 00:44:05.880
fact that you don't know where this ends, keep you from

688
00:44:05.880 --> 00:44:06.880
beginning. Yeah,

689
00:44:07.080 --> 00:44:11.880
good. So I see Walter had a question, Monica.

690
00:44:14.640 --> 00:44:22.240
Hi, I'm at work. Uh, I'm, uh, what I've been finding out in

691
00:44:22.240 --> 00:44:26.600
the last year has been that I've been putting out a whole bunch

692
00:44:26.600 --> 00:44:30.640
of content. And I think I've been more like a shotgun blast

693
00:44:30.680 --> 00:44:36.720
trying to see who will fall. And, and I have come to the

694
00:44:36.720 --> 00:44:41.760
conclusion in this last week in the last two weeks, that most of

695
00:44:41.760 --> 00:44:47.240
the comments and stuff that I've gotten only thumbs ups, hearts,

696
00:44:48.080 --> 00:44:54.840
and an occasional Amen. And if I get more than three words, it's

697
00:44:54.840 --> 00:44:59.720
usually either I don't have a clue of what you're talking

698
00:44:59.720 --> 00:45:00.040
about.

699
00:45:00.000 --> 00:45:02.160
or what you're saying, I just don't agree with.

700
00:45:02.160 --> 00:45:03.680
And every time I try to go back

701
00:45:03.680 --> 00:45:08.520
and with that two or three people who've gotten that far

702
00:45:08.520 --> 00:45:10.260
and try to give them something to look forward to,

703
00:45:10.260 --> 00:45:11.360
I don't hear them anymore.

704
00:45:11.360 --> 00:45:12.860
Don't hear anything from them.

705
00:45:14.240 --> 00:45:17.560
So I know that, so I've decided that,

706
00:45:17.560 --> 00:45:22.040
all right, I need to go back and just look at my hoop.

707
00:45:22.040 --> 00:45:25.620
And in the process, I'm getting downloads like crazy.

708
00:45:25.660 --> 00:45:27.020
And like I sent you, Lindsay,

709
00:45:27.020 --> 00:45:30.860
at least two different landing pages

710
00:45:30.860 --> 00:45:32.620
and I got one in the shotgun.

711
00:45:34.060 --> 00:45:38.780
And because I've also started,

712
00:45:38.780 --> 00:45:43.780
my very first challenge that I did was on prayer,

713
00:45:44.420 --> 00:45:48.140
two days, and I couldn't even get out of the gate.

714
00:45:48.140 --> 00:45:49.900
I had more problems than a little bit,

715
00:45:49.900 --> 00:45:54.900
but I did put up what I'd taped

716
00:45:55.500 --> 00:45:56.460
and set it up there,

717
00:45:56.460 --> 00:45:59.220
but I never got any feedback on those.

718
00:45:59.220 --> 00:46:04.220
I did another challenge on being an orphan, two days again.

719
00:46:06.380 --> 00:46:09.580
And although I had two or three people come up,

720
00:46:09.580 --> 00:46:13.060
again, the problem was technical.

721
00:46:13.060 --> 00:46:17.460
So now I'm looking at my next challenge

722
00:46:17.460 --> 00:46:20.660
and I'm hoping by then I have a lot more stuff done.

723
00:46:20.660 --> 00:46:24.060
But again, the question that I find myself in

724
00:46:24.060 --> 00:46:28.780
is if I go and do another challenge,

725
00:46:29.940 --> 00:46:33.580
how I need to be able to have an audience

726
00:46:33.580 --> 00:46:37.460
or have that hoop locked down,

727
00:46:37.460 --> 00:46:40.280
at least to the point that there are more than people

728
00:46:40.280 --> 00:46:44.660
that I know or more.

729
00:46:44.660 --> 00:46:46.740
That's basically the way I'm at.

730
00:46:46.740 --> 00:46:50.000
So you're thinking about this, right?

731
00:46:50.000 --> 00:46:52.500
Like, hey, I'm noticing that this is the feedback

732
00:46:52.500 --> 00:46:54.900
I'm getting, I need to reevaluate.

733
00:46:54.900 --> 00:46:56.740
Part of the reason you're probably getting the feedback

734
00:46:56.740 --> 00:47:01.100
that you're getting is your who are orphans.

735
00:47:02.500 --> 00:47:06.340
So orphans engage rather,

736
00:47:08.460 --> 00:47:10.300
their engagement's sparse

737
00:47:10.300 --> 00:47:12.500
because they're afraid to engage.

738
00:47:12.500 --> 00:47:14.980
And if they engage, like you said, like,

739
00:47:14.980 --> 00:47:16.820
hey, I get hearts and I get thumbs up.

740
00:47:16.820 --> 00:47:18.980
Yeah, because like, that's safe.

741
00:47:18.980 --> 00:47:19.820
Yeah.

742
00:47:19.820 --> 00:47:21.300
Because it's safe engagement.

743
00:47:21.300 --> 00:47:23.020
It's not giving too much of themselves.

744
00:47:23.020 --> 00:47:25.980
It's definitely not allowing you to, you know,

745
00:47:25.980 --> 00:47:27.100
comment back, it's like, that's great.

746
00:47:27.100 --> 00:47:27.940
And they kind of move on.

747
00:47:27.940 --> 00:47:28.760
Like, that was helpful.

748
00:47:28.760 --> 00:47:30.660
They move on because they don't know,

749
00:47:32.820 --> 00:47:34.220
I don't know the term.

750
00:47:34.220 --> 00:47:35.180
I'm trying to think of a word,

751
00:47:35.180 --> 00:47:40.180
but it's like, they don't want the closeness, right?

752
00:47:40.300 --> 00:47:41.780
Because they're afraid of it.

753
00:47:41.780 --> 00:47:44.180
And then if they do comment, you said it's more negative

754
00:47:44.180 --> 00:47:47.500
and that's because orphans are hurt.

755
00:47:47.500 --> 00:47:49.380
So you poke at something with them.

756
00:47:49.380 --> 00:47:50.900
You know, you try to give them something

757
00:47:51.460 --> 00:47:52.540
and it's triggering.

758
00:47:52.540 --> 00:47:54.460
And so they just kind of lash out.

759
00:47:54.460 --> 00:47:55.860
So you're gonna find that role.

760
00:47:55.860 --> 00:47:57.700
And anyone else who is feeling like,

761
00:47:57.700 --> 00:47:59.700
hey, I'm helping people kind of shift

762
00:47:59.700 --> 00:48:02.460
from being an orphan to being a child of God.

763
00:48:02.460 --> 00:48:03.940
Like, you're gonna find there's gonna be

764
00:48:03.940 --> 00:48:08.340
a little bit more resistance in your engagement.

765
00:48:08.340 --> 00:48:10.420
So don't be afraid of that, it's just what it is.

766
00:48:10.420 --> 00:48:12.540
But we don't just leave it, right?

767
00:48:12.540 --> 00:48:14.260
Because what does a good dad do?

768
00:48:14.260 --> 00:48:19.260
They don't just, they don't mimic children's bad behavior.

769
00:48:20.260 --> 00:48:21.980
They press in with love.

770
00:48:21.980 --> 00:48:23.220
So you have to think,

771
00:48:23.220 --> 00:48:24.860
and I know that you and I have a transformation

772
00:48:24.860 --> 00:48:27.260
or a one-on-one call scheduled soon.

773
00:48:27.260 --> 00:48:28.100
I think it's tonight.

774
00:48:28.100 --> 00:48:29.460
So we'll talk more about this in depth,

775
00:48:29.460 --> 00:48:31.900
but you need to be thinking about

776
00:48:31.900 --> 00:48:35.820
how do I speak to their hearts?

777
00:48:35.820 --> 00:48:37.820
And it's probably gonna be topical.

778
00:48:37.820 --> 00:48:38.660
So we need to think of like,

779
00:48:38.660 --> 00:48:42.020
what is a topic that's gonna not just stop their scroll,

780
00:48:42.020 --> 00:48:45.260
but kind of open them up a little bit more.

781
00:48:45.260 --> 00:48:49.220
And you'll probably have to be a little bit more specific

782
00:48:50.180 --> 00:48:51.580
in your subject matter for a while,

783
00:48:51.580 --> 00:48:53.780
repetitive in your subject matter,

784
00:48:53.780 --> 00:48:55.180
because they're gonna probably need to hear it

785
00:48:55.180 --> 00:48:56.860
more than once.

786
00:48:56.860 --> 00:48:58.780
It can't just be like a one and done.

787
00:48:58.780 --> 00:49:00.020
So we'll talk a little bit about that.

788
00:49:00.020 --> 00:49:01.740
I wanna hear kind of what some of the feedback

789
00:49:01.740 --> 00:49:03.300
you've gotten from previous challenges and stuff,

790
00:49:03.300 --> 00:49:06.180
but that's what's going on with the engagement piece.

791
00:49:06.180 --> 00:49:08.740
That's what I'm sensing is it's where your who's

792
00:49:08.740 --> 00:49:11.100
kind of at right now and where you're helping them,

793
00:49:11.100 --> 00:49:12.860
wanting to get them unstuck from.

794
00:49:12.860 --> 00:49:15.500
So we gotta be, we gotta get some innovation from heaven.

795
00:49:15.500 --> 00:49:17.860
We gotta get some wisdom from Holy Spirit,

796
00:49:17.900 --> 00:49:21.180
because Holy Spirit knows how to speak to them

797
00:49:21.180 --> 00:49:25.540
in a way that's gonna open them up to closeness dialogue

798
00:49:25.540 --> 00:49:27.460
and not be so triggered.

799
00:49:27.460 --> 00:49:28.300
Yeah.

800
00:49:28.300 --> 00:49:30.460
And the other thing I was gonna say is,

801
00:49:30.460 --> 00:49:35.260
just the initial feedback is,

802
00:49:35.260 --> 00:49:38.780
it's kind of just, it's one data point, right?

803
00:49:38.780 --> 00:49:39.900
The other data point is like,

804
00:49:39.900 --> 00:49:42.660
the Lord told you like, is downloading these things to you,

805
00:49:42.660 --> 00:49:44.420
like go share them.

806
00:49:44.420 --> 00:49:48.500
And so a lot of those things will get solved with volume.

807
00:49:48.500 --> 00:49:50.740
So if you have a few people following you

808
00:49:50.740 --> 00:49:52.860
versus a few thousand people,

809
00:49:52.860 --> 00:49:55.380
versus tens of thousands of people following you,

810
00:49:55.380 --> 00:49:57.180
those types of things will kind of disappear

811
00:49:57.180 --> 00:49:59.780
because it'll attract more and more of the same who.

812
00:50:00.000 --> 00:50:03.080
And then they'll kind of find each other in a, in a more of a tighter community.

813
00:50:03.080 --> 00:50:07.300
And I think, um, that's cause like, even when we started, anytime we do

814
00:50:07.300 --> 00:50:12.140
anything with King of Messengers, you know, we use ads to like push content

815
00:50:12.140 --> 00:50:17.920
out to people and I mean, we get so much negative orphan feedback, um, everything

816
00:50:17.920 --> 00:50:19.460
from like, why is Lindsay preaching?

817
00:50:19.460 --> 00:50:22.520
Because she's a woman to, why are you guys charging for this?

818
00:50:22.520 --> 00:50:23.940
Because like, that's not biblical.

819
00:50:23.940 --> 00:50:25.620
It should be for free, you know?

820
00:50:25.800 --> 00:50:26.440
And it was, you know,

821
00:50:26.440 --> 00:50:27.840
we get called names and

822
00:50:28.320 --> 00:50:31.300
I mean, like aggressive stuff to the point where like, Lindsay's not

823
00:50:31.300 --> 00:50:32.640
allowed to look at the comments.

824
00:50:32.640 --> 00:50:37.940
And like, typically, uh, me and Tamara, like, you know, just kind of plow

825
00:50:37.940 --> 00:50:40.180
through it and we, cause we have to, some of them are so bad, we

826
00:50:40.180 --> 00:50:41.500
actually have to delete them.

827
00:50:41.800 --> 00:50:44.940
And these are like, I guess they're other Christians, you know,

828
00:50:44.940 --> 00:50:46.440
but it's just, it's, it's absurd.

829
00:50:46.440 --> 00:50:49.520
So you're going to, the bigger you grow and the more you want to grow, the

830
00:50:49.520 --> 00:50:51.040
more you're going to find that pushback.

831
00:50:51.460 --> 00:50:54.320
And so it's just good to know, like the feedback, okay.

832
00:50:54.320 --> 00:50:57.400
Hey Lord, like no one's giving me feedback, but Hey, if you're

833
00:50:57.400 --> 00:50:59.800
telling me to do this thing, I'm going to keep doing it.

834
00:51:00.200 --> 00:51:03.000
And maybe just, you know, but the one thing I would try to stay away

835
00:51:03.000 --> 00:51:07.260
from is, is, um, going all the way down, like one direction and then

836
00:51:07.260 --> 00:51:09.880
like pivoting and going somewhere else and then pivoting and going somewhere

837
00:51:09.880 --> 00:51:13.560
else, you'll kind of just, it's part, it's part of the process, but you

838
00:51:13.560 --> 00:51:17.240
want to kind of limit that as much as possible, um, because typically

839
00:51:17.240 --> 00:51:20.700
there's one through line that you'll find that, okay, it's, it's really the,

840
00:51:20.700 --> 00:51:22.560
and I think for you, it's like, you've already nailed it.

841
00:51:22.560 --> 00:51:24.320
It's like the orphan spirit.

842
00:51:25.080 --> 00:51:28.520
It's you're wanting to teach people how to be fathered by a good

843
00:51:28.520 --> 00:51:32.280
heavenly, that's been the download that, uh, that I got when I was in,

844
00:51:32.280 --> 00:51:36.480
uh, uh, Israel being father, that has been it.

845
00:51:36.760 --> 00:51:42.760
And, uh, the other thing that came recently was the fact that a lot of

846
00:51:42.760 --> 00:51:48.680
people who don't understand orphan from a spiritual point of view, but I, so

847
00:51:48.680 --> 00:51:54.760
I basically started looking at the fatherless, the, the prodigal and the

848
00:51:54.760 --> 00:51:58.720
orphan, and I've asked which one you want to choose because all of them

849
00:51:58.720 --> 00:52:03.400
are basically the same, you know, uh, they're out without God and without hope.

850
00:52:03.800 --> 00:52:07.880
So, and, and God is trying to show me, I haven't listened.

851
00:52:07.880 --> 00:52:14.400
I just see something kind of darkly at the moment as to how, how, how that fits

852
00:52:14.440 --> 00:52:18.760
in because people, uh, they don't understand the spiritual battle.

853
00:52:18.760 --> 00:52:21.960
I've been seeing that, uh, very, very much.

854
00:52:22.160 --> 00:52:27.160
So they're basically below the sleep, you know, all this stuff, but, uh,

855
00:52:27.560 --> 00:52:29.360
and we'll talk, we'll talk more about that on your call.

856
00:52:29.400 --> 00:52:30.880
It's a great conversation to have.

857
00:52:30.880 --> 00:52:34.160
I think we'll need, we'll need to go back to what we were just talking about today.

858
00:52:36.360 --> 00:52:41.080
Cause people are not going to typically, most people are not going to

859
00:52:41.080 --> 00:52:43.120
self-identify as spiritual orphan.

860
00:52:43.640 --> 00:52:43.800
Yeah.

861
00:52:43.800 --> 00:52:46.840
Most Christians aren't, they that's, they're not going to identify, even

862
00:52:46.840 --> 00:52:49.240
if that's what they are, that's how they're operating, they're

863
00:52:49.240 --> 00:52:50.000
not going to identify that.

864
00:52:50.000 --> 00:52:54.760
So you got to find language and topics to begin to speak to them and

865
00:52:54.760 --> 00:52:57.760
open up their hearts and minds to kind of pulling down this big domino,

866
00:52:57.760 --> 00:53:01.480
this big idea without necessarily pointing it out so bluntly, because

867
00:53:01.480 --> 00:53:03.040
that will be a, that will be a trigger.

868
00:53:03.480 --> 00:53:04.520
That will be a trigger for sure.

869
00:53:04.520 --> 00:53:06.280
So, Hey, Monica, I see your hand.

870
00:53:08.240 --> 00:53:08.520
I think she's

871
00:53:09.880 --> 00:53:12.360
nice to see you all see you.

872
00:53:12.920 --> 00:53:14.400
I have a quick question.

873
00:53:14.400 --> 00:53:22.840
So I feel like I'm being prompted to help, uh, believers and ministries

874
00:53:22.840 --> 00:53:27.480
and faith led entrepreneurs to get their content out there.

875
00:53:27.560 --> 00:53:32.880
Um, that's more, that is faith-based specifically faith-based just to help

876
00:53:32.880 --> 00:53:37.520
them because it's creating content is hard, uh, for a lot of people who don't

877
00:53:37.520 --> 00:53:39.160
want to spend the time in front of the computer.

878
00:53:39.840 --> 00:53:44.880
So I decided at some point here, uh, thinking in January to launch the

879
00:53:44.880 --> 00:53:49.080
Canva for Christians and, uh, with templates and all the different things.

880
00:53:50.000 --> 00:53:55.880
Uh, my question is thinking of the flow from flag to flag, since that is so

881
00:53:55.880 --> 00:54:00.520
techie and templates and that kind of thing, is that something that you,

882
00:54:00.600 --> 00:54:05.040
that I would be able to lead people into something a little more intimate,

883
00:54:05.080 --> 00:54:09.760
like kingdom identity and that kind of stuff, or should I just stick with

884
00:54:09.760 --> 00:54:14.320
tech on that and then do the other via like my mom ministries or something like

885
00:54:14.320 --> 00:54:14.640
that?

886
00:54:15.520 --> 00:54:19.200
What problem do you feel like the, that you're who, like, you know, said

887
00:54:19.200 --> 00:54:21.600
faith led entrepreneurs, let's start there.

888
00:54:21.640 --> 00:54:23.960
Like what problem do you feel like they're carrying around in their head

889
00:54:23.960 --> 00:54:28.000
and their heart when it comes to like getting their content out or whatever?

890
00:54:28.000 --> 00:54:29.440
Like, what are they telling themselves?

891
00:54:29.440 --> 00:54:30.680
That is like the barrier.

892
00:54:31.520 --> 00:54:35.280
Well, first they're scared to share faith led content because they

893
00:54:35.280 --> 00:54:36.680
don't want to lose business.

894
00:54:36.720 --> 00:54:41.400
So they don't know how to create it, uh, in a way that's not triggering,

895
00:54:41.400 --> 00:54:44.840
but just sharing and encouraging and, um, that type of thing.

896
00:54:45.200 --> 00:54:48.880
Uh, and then the other part is just saving time.

897
00:54:48.880 --> 00:54:49.960
They don't have time.

898
00:54:49.960 --> 00:54:52.880
It's like, they want to share their faith, but they don't know how to say it.

899
00:54:53.280 --> 00:54:58.240
So, you know, giving them things like here, here is a truth, go put it out

900
00:54:58.240 --> 00:55:00.040
there and it gets on more.

901
00:55:00.000 --> 00:55:05.520
feeds is kind of the idea. Yeah so that's where you want to start with the problem that they

902
00:55:05.520 --> 00:55:12.080
think that they have. So offering like an identity-based like like study or program may not

903
00:55:13.200 --> 00:55:19.200
may not ignite in their head in their heart like oh this is for me but when it comes to like um

904
00:55:19.840 --> 00:55:25.120
you know doing it within a busy schedule like a busy you know or um you said like talking about

905
00:55:25.120 --> 00:55:29.920
like how do I how can I make that shift and be more public about my faith without it like

906
00:55:29.920 --> 00:55:34.480
ruining my business. Like those are the types of things that you want to speak to and build

907
00:55:34.480 --> 00:55:39.120
your challenge around or your workshop whatever you're planning on doing because that is where

908
00:55:39.120 --> 00:55:42.880
that's what people are going to go oh my gosh like this is going to answer my like my problem.

909
00:55:42.880 --> 00:55:48.000
I I just said yesterday to my wife or husband like I don't have time for this or I don't know

910
00:55:48.000 --> 00:55:52.080
how to like I've been in this mode business mode for so long that I don't know how to like shift

911
00:55:52.080 --> 00:55:56.320
in the ministry though I desire to do it and this person's jumping on my screen saying they're

912
00:55:56.320 --> 00:56:02.400
going to help me do that. Yeah and you know I I see like the I love the Canva for Christian

913
00:56:02.400 --> 00:56:06.320
thing. I think you'll pull in the right people for that because they're going to be kind of

914
00:56:06.320 --> 00:56:11.200
they're going to be entrepreneurs. It's a very Canva is like a very entrepreneurial place to

915
00:56:11.200 --> 00:56:16.000
gather and if you have the Christians and they're doing business something so I think that's a great

916
00:56:16.000 --> 00:56:22.320
like onboarding tool so I could see you doing it like a three-day challenge or something challenge

917
00:56:22.320 --> 00:56:27.440
for that record it and then just make that a little mini course and people can kind of go

918
00:56:27.440 --> 00:56:33.920
through it at their own pace and maybe it's $37 or $47 and that's a great just introduction to

919
00:56:33.920 --> 00:56:40.000
Monica and then from there you can take them you know wherever you want to go. Yeah like you could

920
00:56:40.000 --> 00:56:43.840
I mean that that could be a because you're you kind of have a couple different larger buckets

921
00:56:43.840 --> 00:56:48.720
with like Mon Ministries being like healing for entrepreneurs and your faith-led business so like

922
00:56:48.720 --> 00:56:53.600
those are even two buckets that depending on the group that you gather you can lead them like hey

923
00:56:53.600 --> 00:56:59.040
I'm getting ready to do a 90-day program within my Mon Ministries this is healing for entrepreneurs

924
00:56:59.040 --> 00:57:04.560
where I'm teaching people leading them through like healing ministry you know something something

925
00:57:04.560 --> 00:57:10.480
I mean just paraphrasing but so that could lead but they've just spent three five days with you

926
00:57:10.480 --> 00:57:15.040
learning your heart for business and ministry learning how you do things you've helped them with

927
00:57:15.040 --> 00:57:20.080
solving their problems so it's much easier like connection point into some of these larger things

928
00:57:20.080 --> 00:57:25.120
that you're doing. I think that's where we want you to be totally yourself when you're doing these

929
00:57:25.120 --> 00:57:33.440
because the the introductory thing like the the that first thing you do to introduce people to

930
00:57:33.440 --> 00:57:38.480
to you it has to be you it's not like oh I'm just going to show you these tech tools

931
00:57:38.480 --> 00:57:42.880
and then something totally different so what will happen is like we're like oh we're gonna

932
00:57:42.880 --> 00:57:47.200
like teach you how to do social media and then when we start talking we start talking kingdom

933
00:57:47.200 --> 00:57:51.840
and content like transformation and people like wow these people are like really deep like they

934
00:57:51.840 --> 00:57:55.760
I just wanted to learn how to use TikTok and they're telling me like how to preach the gospel

935
00:57:55.760 --> 00:58:00.160
online like you know so all of a sudden they'll kind of see the tip of the iceberg it's like oh

936
00:58:00.160 --> 00:58:06.560
hey I need help with Canva but when you get to talking with them you're sharing just stuff through

937
00:58:06.560 --> 00:58:11.120
that process yeah and this is how like I hear from the Lord and he downloads things to be like

938
00:58:11.120 --> 00:58:16.160
whoa like what is this person talking about like she's hearing from God I mean the problem is he

939
00:58:16.160 --> 00:58:21.440
like we just totally overestimate where people are and really like there's so much that you've

940
00:58:21.440 --> 00:58:25.920
got in your journey that you can share with people that you won't even know it took us a while like

941
00:58:25.920 --> 00:58:30.400
in the first challenge to be to just slow down and even now we're just like trying to share so much

942
00:58:30.400 --> 00:58:35.280
but when our first challenge is we would just share so much and we were so surprised by like

943
00:58:35.840 --> 00:58:39.920
the smallest thing we would say or like tip that we would give and they were and

944
00:58:39.920 --> 00:58:43.520
like we wouldn't even have thought that was valuable I never would have made a YouTube

945
00:58:43.520 --> 00:58:47.440
video or a blog post about how to do this one thing but I would just say something and all

946
00:58:47.440 --> 00:58:51.440
of a sudden people were it was like oh that's so helpful like that really helped me with this piece

947
00:58:51.440 --> 00:58:55.520
and you're like oh I've got a lot of stuff like that you know so you'll kind of you'll kind of

948
00:58:55.520 --> 00:59:01.360
find that same thing so just yeah I said just kind of meet people where they're at and then

949
00:59:01.360 --> 00:59:06.960
you kind of like the the give them what they want which is I need help with Canva and what

950
00:59:06.960 --> 00:59:11.360
they really need is like the community of you know other you know faith-led entrepreneurs

951
00:59:12.000 --> 00:59:15.840
so you kind of start with the Canva thing but when you get down into it it's like

952
00:59:15.840 --> 00:59:23.760
hey this is how we do business as Christians yeah right yeah almost like um like adding in for

953
00:59:23.760 --> 00:59:29.280
example on a post like okay well do you guys pray over your posts before you send it out

954
00:59:29.280 --> 00:59:34.000
or you know those types of little things that absolutely like something you have just always

955
00:59:34.000 --> 00:59:39.360
done and might not think that that is something that people would need to like be told to do but

956
00:59:39.360 --> 00:59:44.080
like it makes such a difference right so yeah those are the things that people will connect

957
00:59:44.080 --> 00:59:48.320
with you on that level and you know you'll find you'll people share a heartbeat like oh my gosh

958
00:59:48.320 --> 00:59:51.680
I thought I was the only one who did that or I've never thought of doing that so that's where those

959
00:59:51.680 --> 00:59:56.160
those challenges workshops are so helpful because it's a much easier connecting point than like hey

960
00:59:56.160 --> 00:59:59.840
join this large program right and as well like if you don't want

961
01:00:00.000 --> 01:00:06.160
sometimes like, oh, a challenge or a thing, like a great way, if the challenges are,

962
01:00:06.160 --> 01:00:08.480
I should have said this like at the beginning, but challenges are great,

963
01:00:09.520 --> 01:00:15.760
they are a lot of work. If you don't feel like that's, you're ready to do that, do a free

964
01:00:15.760 --> 01:00:21.680
training, like just do a 60 minute, 90 minute free live where you just go live on your platform

965
01:00:21.680 --> 01:00:27.600
and just teach one concept, maybe just teach them Canva something for, and it's just a free training

966
01:00:27.600 --> 01:00:31.920
and maybe they can put their email address in to watch it or not. You just do it on YouTube

967
01:00:31.920 --> 01:00:36.720
if you want and just get a lot of, if someone sits through and watches a 60 to 90 minute thing

968
01:00:36.720 --> 01:00:41.760
with Monica and at the very end, you could have like, hey, I'm going to drop a link if you want

969
01:00:41.760 --> 01:00:47.120
to book a call or email me, or here's a application to fill out if you want to work with me or

970
01:00:47.120 --> 01:00:52.240
something like that at the very end, that person's probably a pretty big fan of yours if they've

971
01:00:52.240 --> 01:00:57.520
made it all the way to the 60 or 90 minute mark of a presentation. And so that's a great way

972
01:00:58.000 --> 01:01:02.800
because through that, you'll filter people out. It's also a great place to start, just a

973
01:01:02.800 --> 01:01:07.440
single training. We did a lot of these. We just call them free training on our tribe sites and

974
01:01:07.440 --> 01:01:12.560
they're just 60 to 90 minutes. And for you, Monica, specifically, because you said, hey, my

975
01:01:12.560 --> 01:01:16.800
who's really struggling with time, you might want to consider doing that before you do multiple day

976
01:01:16.800 --> 01:01:22.560
anything just because you want to help them with their time, collapse their time. What we did is

977
01:01:22.560 --> 01:01:27.840
did separate trainings like this, like through June or July, I think it was July. We did three

978
01:01:27.840 --> 01:01:32.000
or four of these free trainings and we just invited everybody there. Hey, free training,

979
01:01:32.000 --> 01:01:36.480
free training, free training. And then we did a challenge and guess what content we taught

980
01:01:36.480 --> 01:01:40.880
in the challenge. Everything we just did in the free training and people, even though they watched

981
01:01:40.880 --> 01:01:44.320
it, even though it was free, now that it was on Zoom and they could ask questions and we can go

982
01:01:44.320 --> 01:01:52.160
layer deeper, it was worth it. So you don't have to kind of reinvent the wheel. It's repurposing

983
01:01:52.160 --> 01:01:58.960
the content just right. Yeah. Perfect. Thanks, guys. Appreciate it. Awesome. Okay. So we're

984
01:01:58.960 --> 01:02:01.840
coming up on time. Does anyone else have any more questions before we go?

985
01:02:09.120 --> 01:02:13.360
I know Ashley is getting ready to run a challenge. I believe so in January.

986
01:02:13.360 --> 01:02:19.680
Yeah. She posted a question in the Facebook group. Yeah. Just about how to how fast to go from

987
01:02:19.680 --> 01:02:25.120
challenging to intensive. Yeah. We answered that. So I just have a quick question.

988
01:02:26.480 --> 01:02:33.280
The landing pages, Bruce, when will those be done? If you've sent yours in, we'll just I'm

989
01:02:33.280 --> 01:02:39.360
going to look over them. I think the first version, but we'll I'll get back with you.

990
01:02:40.480 --> 01:02:45.120
It should just come through email. We'll just email. Okay. Now, the only reason I'm asking is

991
01:02:45.120 --> 01:02:53.440
because I set out to teach things on prayer and want to offer people the prayers from the Bible.

992
01:02:55.440 --> 01:03:00.560
But I've had to kind of pause and do other things because I don't want to finish it all.

993
01:03:01.680 --> 01:03:10.000
I want to be doing it when I send it out. That's all. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Having a kind of time

994
01:03:10.000 --> 01:03:16.240
idea of when it will be out will help me. Okay. Yeah. We'll we'll get that up.

995
01:03:17.760 --> 01:03:24.480
Yeah. The next couple of weeks, right? No, no, no. Weeks. No, no, no. The next next day or two.

996
01:03:24.480 --> 01:03:29.040
Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. I would say like this week, you should have it for sure.

997
01:03:30.800 --> 01:03:37.040
Yeah. We're just spending like an hour or two on them, just cleaning it up and formatting it a

998
01:03:37.040 --> 01:03:41.040
little bit for you. And then we're dropping it into your tribe site. So it's not weeks of work.

999
01:03:41.040 --> 01:03:46.560
It's just we'll just make sure we get them a process. So cool. I'll follow up with that

1000
01:03:46.560 --> 01:03:51.200
afterwards. Bruce, did you put the link for the lights on the chat or is it on Facebook page?

1001
01:03:52.080 --> 01:03:57.200
I was too busy talking. So I just I want to also see what you're putting out there.

1002
01:03:57.760 --> 01:04:04.320
I think Facebook and I'll tag Marian in it. I'll just do a post on the Facebook.

1003
01:04:04.720 --> 01:04:09.920
Thanks. What I'll try to do is come up with like three options because you can literally spend

1004
01:04:10.560 --> 01:04:14.480
twenty dollars on lighting or like two thousand dollars on lighting. So I'll just give like

1005
01:04:15.200 --> 01:04:20.960
two or three options, like a one dollar sign, two dollar sign, three dollar sign option.

1006
01:04:22.160 --> 01:04:27.520
Thank you. Cool. I'm not going to get up until I do that from this chair. That's what I'm telling

1007
01:04:27.520 --> 01:04:37.280
Lindsay. Awesome. Anything else? I know we're going to obviously you guys can there's tech

1008
01:04:37.280 --> 01:04:41.920
helpline calls. We've still got that available. You can still book your one on one calls. So

1009
01:04:42.960 --> 01:04:47.520
people have been doing that. But don't forget to do that. So now through the end of January,

1010
01:04:47.520 --> 01:04:51.680
if you want to meet with me, like what we're going to talk tonight about going deeper as a

1011
01:04:51.680 --> 01:04:55.520
great example of like, hey, I need clarity on this or here's what I'm thinking or those are

1012
01:04:55.520 --> 01:04:59.760
what those calls are for. Awesome.

1013
01:05:00.000 --> 01:05:04.520
Oh, and I will say on the lighting, because if people have questions on lighting, book

1014
01:05:04.520 --> 01:05:07.960
a tech helpline call and we'll make sure I'm on it.

1015
01:05:07.960 --> 01:05:13.100
We've had helped people before just get on zoom and then just move if you've got lights

1016
01:05:13.100 --> 01:05:16.660
in your room, like just moving different lights, turning different lights in your room on and

1017
01:05:16.660 --> 01:05:17.660
off.

1018
01:05:17.660 --> 01:05:21.820
And we can just spend 20 minutes like setting up, setting up your lighting or something

1019
01:05:21.820 --> 01:05:22.820
like that as well.

1020
01:05:22.820 --> 01:05:24.820
So use that for sure.

1021
01:05:24.820 --> 01:05:25.820
Good.

1022
01:05:25.820 --> 01:05:26.820
Awesome.

1023
01:05:26.820 --> 01:05:31.180
Have a great week, guys.