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We're live on Facebook.

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And we are in the right group.

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This is not the first one since.

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This is the second one.

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It's the first one with you.

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It's the first one with me.

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Happy New Year, Bruce.

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Welcome to 2023.

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Guys, I've been huddled under a little computer staring at code for four weeks.

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I hear you guys have been helping with that 31 day wisdom challenge.

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Well, helping in that, like, yeah, the whole challenge is running off like our app that

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It's very exciting.

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It's very good.

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So that's what Bruce has been doing.

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So he might be a little cross eyed.

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We do have he has it on his schedule this week to make the ads mini course for you guys.

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We haven't forgotten about that.

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Just go back in the studio this week.

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So we're going to do a little mini course either tonight or tomorrow, and we'll just

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put up that for the Facebook ad so you guys can check it out.

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So that is coming.

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We're going to look out for that.

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And we'll get the landing pages finished before the end of the month.

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Oh, yeah.

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100%.

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And you guys should be working with Carolina on your tech calls if you guys are getting

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stuck on anything.

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Yeah, I am.

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I'm not going to give advancement until if you're if you're wanting one.

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Not if you don't want one, that's fine.

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There are no wins or anything.

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Any wins before we jump in?

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Just happy to be here.

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So Ashley's launching her challenge.

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Yeah, we've got a lot of movement.

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So last last week we talked about, you know, taking a taking an evaluation.

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What's working?

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What's not working?

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I really appreciate everyone who shared and just shared your process right now where you're

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Part of that conversation that we had after our conversation with Amy was the idea of

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And so Bruce and I are talking about that.

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We're like, this is actually a really good focus for us because many of you guys are

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at that point where what's not working is continuing to doing continuing to do the admin

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of your channel, the posting, the organizing, all of that stuff.

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And so that's what we're going to dive into today.

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And by we Bruce is going to he's going to run the call.

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And so be thinking about questions maybe even that you had before this call about what that

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some links and things like that.

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It's a pretty important conversation because this is a way that we can, you know, we talk

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about multiplying ourselves through our content.

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This is a way that we take our creative process and our production plan and we multiply, multiply

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ourselves that way by starting to delegate tasks that are starting to take away from

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the one thing that we can do that no one else can do, which is the content creation piece.

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So every content creator will hit this barrier at some point, some quicker than other quicker

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than others, where it's like, I need to start delegating because I can't be solo anymore

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in building this channel.

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And every one of the, you know, kingdom messengers, at some point they had this bestselling book

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and now they had, you know, itinerary and they had stuff and then they hire, you know,

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get their first hire.

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So that is going to happen no matter what, as you progress in your ministry.

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But what's cool now is that the barrier for entry to get someone to help is so affordable

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and there's some really cool, innovative ways to get help.

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And you may be saying like, oh, I can't, I'm not big enough to like hire someone and

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afford a salary or any of that.

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who's running like part-time with you and doing like all your posting, all your editing,

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like all your schedule, like scheduling on the stuff, making website edits, all of that

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So we're going to show you how to find that person, how to hire them, how to give them

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And this is something that we've done for the last 12 years.

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And I think I was just pulling up some of our stats.

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Like we have hired, I think over 200 people through one of the tools called Upwork, which

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We've spent over $250,000 on Upwork hiring people.

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And I think we've had people track over 10,000 hours worth of like time on Upwork.

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And so this is what I've learned doing all of that.

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I'm going to share all that with you guys.

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And we just hired this.

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I had a friend, if you guys remember Anne McDonald, she's a friend of the kingdom messengers.

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We just, I just helped her get someone to help do all of her videos.

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So I went through this process recently and I just documented it.

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So I'm going to show you a lot of examples.

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I want to make this so easy.

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You can like copy.

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my description and you can like paste it into your profile thing and you can you know try to see if

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you can find someone and definitely if you guys have questions about any of this we'll we'll talk

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about it but part of it is just a mindset shift of like hey like this is the realization for me was

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you know there's certain things that I just like hate about running a business one of those things

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is like bookkeeping and taxes and all of that stuff like I literally will just like procrastinate it

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till like as long as I possibly can and I met this person I think her name was Queenie she was

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from 100x she's a kingdom accountant and you just talk to her about counting and it's like

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shiny eyes it's like her it's her favorite thing in the world I didn't even know that was possible

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and I was just at one point I was like there are people who like love doing this like they love

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getting in the details they love looking at the numbers and the spreadsheets and I like pieces of

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it like I like it when it's done but I don't like doing it at all and so one of the things we always

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try to think about is like kind of thinking about like even the analogy of like kind of what's your

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like being on camera and speaking to the camera like that is your gift that's bringing revelation

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that's your A seat you know B seat is like maybe doing some video editing it's stuff you can kind

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of do you can you know you don't mind doing it but it's not like your favorite thing and then C

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kind of seat stuff is like this stuff like sucks the joy out of you right like you do it like to me

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out of your A seat yeah and it literally takes your so there's those kind of things and just

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what I would find especially as it's a new year it's a new fresh start to the year kind of start

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looking at like everything that you're doing for your for your you know ministry for your business

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anything like that and like what stuff like hey if I have only a few hours a week it would be so

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much better if you were recording content writing content or replying to comments and maybe you

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could take a few hours of like the administrative piece out as far as like you know editing

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scheduling posting you know tagging all that good stuff so so just those are some things to think

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about and this is something you can apply to any part of your business like you can also use this

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process to find someone who can help with bookkeeping or even you know you need to build

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a funnel out for a challenge and you're like honestly I don't have the time to learn it

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but for just a very little bit of money like talking about typically a few hundred dollars

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you can have someone come in and basically do all this stuff for you and you can just tell them kind

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of what to do and and so it helps you focus and it's something I'm continually like looking at

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like hey I'm spending a ton of time on this thing like we need help like at some point so

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yeah so I think it's just a mindset thing I don't know if you say anything about the mindset

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idea of like I mean it's becoming I mean you're it's going from solo to being really thinking

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about yourself as like the owner of this channel and the leader of this channel and so you're

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beginning to that's why that's what helps you kind of shift into a team building mode

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and it it's gonna it can be a struggle if you have a high sense of responsibility

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which leads to a high need for control and so it's actually a really good exercise in surrender

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of some of these things like Bruce is talking about because what what is in danger maybe that's

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an exaggerated term but what's in danger is you being able to sit fully in the a seat if some of

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these other things aren't taken care of or taken off of your plate and so for me even though I have

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a high sense of responsibility and wanted to be in all the details I had to surrender the parts that

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were not either were completely like life-sucking or just weren't life-giving so that I could stay

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in that a seat and so it's a journey it's a practice but this is a good first step and we

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obviously have more than we don't we don't we we have more than VA right now obviously we have to

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marry of Carolina we have a larger team and a different salary structure and all that stuff

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but this is a good first step if you're starting to think about who what would who would be my next

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person that I would start hiring or my next task so don't get ahead of yourself you're not you don't

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need to hire 10 people all at once yeah but this is a good next step yeah and and it's it's a mindset

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thing so it's like hey I'm I'm running into something with with what I'm trying to do and

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I'm stuck you know yes I can go learn the skills but also if there's a chance where I can like

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get someone else who already has those skills you know to implement it and I can do it in a very

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cost-effective way it um you know it just preserves like your focus and which is one of the most

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important things if you're the founder of your ministry of your business like that is the most

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important thing is your focus your time um and even as recently as like a week ago we we had um

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we were doing the wisdom challenge and we had a little bug in the system someone like I'm I'll

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take I think I put the bug in there to you know in the in the app and somehow like it was on the

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code yeah everybody there was like think of a spreadsheet there was like all these

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Like that's, it sounds simple, but in code, it's a little bit more complicated.

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There's only like a thousand users.

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Like, and so you had other things that you should have been.

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So I went on Upwork, I posted a job and for 50 bucks, like this guy, and this

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Like, that's amazing.

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And he was like, so excited to go do it.

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And I got to give him like, I was like, that's amazing.

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Cause that saved me like hours of my time.

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And, um, you know, then we had him do a few other things.

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So it was great anyway.

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So let me jump into it.

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Um, we were already like, yeah, let me share my screen here.

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Um, and I'm going to have a bunch of notes and we'll share all these with you guys.

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So you don't have to like write down all the stuff.

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Let me make this really big for you.

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Um, so this title here is, is, is hiring and training your first virtual assistant.

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So you will keep using the phrase VA.

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That's what it stands for virtual assistant.

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Um, and I'll be, let me just pull up the chat because I don't have the chat open.

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If you guys have questions or feel free to interrupt or unmute or whatever with

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questions, um, and yeah, we'll jump into it.

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So, um, we'll start out by like talking about how to hire, like find and hire

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your, your VA and then how to train that person and then how to build some systems

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that help it kind of run on autopilot.

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Um, this is our, our profile on, um, Upwork.

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So, uh, you know, um, we've been using this for, I don't know, 10, 10 years.

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Member since 2010 at the bottom there.

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I don't know why it's like, um, go away.

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There we go.

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Member since November, 18, 2010.

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So we've been doing this for a little bit.

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And, uh, this is kind of what we've learned.

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We've made a lot of mistakes and stuff.

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So hopefully I'll try to save you guys some, some time and money by not

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making the same mistakes we made.

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Uh, so as far as hiring goes, like we first need to create like a job

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description of figure out what that thing is that you want to do.

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And I'm going to show you examples of this.

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If you're like, I don't even know what this would look like.

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Um, so you want to create a very, um, you know, just describe what you're

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really well is to, uh, start with a project based job and I'll

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with people, it basically protects you.

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don't lose a lot of money, essentially it's, it's kind of milestone based.

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it's kind of like, like you would with a, with a contractor or, or someone

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who was doing, you know, a job for you.

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list of requirements, and then, um, we go through like, what's

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the workflow going to be like?

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this is, this is the job we posted.

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like 60 tech talks in like two days.

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it's got little pictures and emojis and it just makes it look, uh, really engaging.

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you know, must be able, must be a good communicator over Slack. That's the tool we use.

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because we're going to be downloading and uploading videos a lot. So I just put that up front.

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that's coming from iCloud. You know, it needs to be edited in CapCut or whatever tool they want.

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or Google Drive and then mark something as completed and then go back to the next one.

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here, I said, like, please, please use the attached video and submit a sample for us to edit.

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in right here so they could click on it. They could download it and edit one for me. And I could

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see if I liked how they did it. Right. So, you know, this was this was for 60. I figured if we could

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just get one done. And I actually got quite a few posts back. But immediately I just I would open

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one. I'm like, oh, that's not good. There was typos or, you know, there was like weird, you know,

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stuff. It just was like it was not like some people did it really easy. Some people even like

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submitted one where they had just done like the auto captions. Right. So they didn't even follow

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any of the steps. They didn't look at any of the examples. And they didn't, you know, so I was like,

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well, that person's gone. You know, I didn't have to like even think about it. And then, yeah,

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there's a bunch of different things. And you guys can copy all of this as far as like how this,

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you know, all these different settings and you can add these different tags and stuff to projects.

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I will get a bunch of people who will apply and they'll do proposals to see how, you know,

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it works. If I click into this guy's in Australia, I can open this up. And so like, I mean,

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this guy knows what he's doing. He like I didn't say anything about Atlanta, but it's just cool

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that he like included that. So some of these people like are very simple, like they're just

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copying and pasting proposals and everything. So that's where I wanted to make sure it was very

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tailored for us. Meaning that they throw something custom in there. That's what this is for. So

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I say like, hey, include an answer to this question in your proposal or include like this

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example of your work or hey, do a sample edit for us in your proposal because I want to make

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sure that they read to the last line of the job description. And so, you know, that way I can

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quickly scan it and say, hey, did they follow directions even just in the proposal? And it

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helps me just quickly eliminate people. And you can see there's like 12 people who applied

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for this and then a number that I messaged back and forth. And then, you know, we picked

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one guy named John who's been awesome. And so if I clicked into here,

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so here she said like here where I said like, please submit a link of your edit of the sample

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clip. And she actually has it in right here. And I think she may have edited it or done something

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similar to that one. So and then she put her, you know, and then we can start chatting for this.

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And there's a whole like way to communicate with the person in Upwork. So that is like,

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and I'm kind of like skimming through a lot of that pretty quick. But that is like the whole

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process of just posting it. You don't have to promote it or share it or any of that. There's

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a huge, there's over a million contractors on Upwork. They will find your project. They will

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create proposals typically in like an hour or two, like you'll start getting proposals in.

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Pretty quick. And so that's a great, it's a great tool to use. And I went ahead and just

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listed here like Upwork is what we use. We just started using it years and years ago and just

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stuck with it. There is another site called Online Jobs that are specifically to the Philippines,

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which has been great. We have found great people here as well. So you can kind of say who you're

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looking for. It's a little bit more, it's, you know, Upwork is going to be your cheapest. This

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will probably be the next most expensive. And then a little bit more is this whole service.

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one to be part-time who's on salary, but they are offshore in the Philippines, this support

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shepherd is a great tool that they will actually, they're like a recruiting agency, so you work with

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them, you tell them what they want, they go off and find people for you, they do all the interviews,

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it's very like all done for you. I haven't used this one, I've started it a few times, but

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we've ended up just going with Upwork, but I wanted to give you three options there,

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depending on, you know, how adventurous you are. So, okay, cool, let me stop there on the hiring,

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because I'm going to get into some other things, systems and stuff like that. Is there any

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questions, or is this helpful? Good, let me come back to gallery so I can see you guys.

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There you go. My question is, if English isn't their first language,

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that's good, is there, how do you know of the purity of the content, I mean, or is that just trial and

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error? That's a great question, so almost everybody in the Philippines speaks English,

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so at least if they're on these sites, they already speak English, and so I, in Upwork,

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you can specify, like, if it's just data entry, or you're not really interacting a lot,

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it doesn't really matter, but I always pick, like, fluent or, you know, native speaker for English,

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and that way it always, and then Upwork has tests for them to go through to basically be in that,

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so they do those, sort of, they vet it for you, and then I look, I just look at their responses,

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you know, we're talking to another human, so I'm just, we're having a dialogue, like,

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in this chat room, essentially, on Upwork, and I'm just really, I'm really picky when I see a

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typo in a thing, or they missed a word somewhere, I'm just really picky, because I was like, well,

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if that's a TikTok post that's going out, and I didn't have time to write that description,

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and they end up writing the description, like, is that going to look bad when it's, you know,

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going out as us, so I'm just really picky. Yeah, even on the native, just kind of a general

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hiring thing, as well, like, even if you have two people that are exactly equally as skilled

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and talented, like, I'll always take the person who can communicate and write the best, just

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because that's how so much work is being done, like, we use Slack, we use, you know, messages,

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back and forth, emails, so if you can't write really well, that's going to be, those are just

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general things. But yeah, I think that's good, but I would like that. What about the cultural

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subtleties? Is there any difference if you're getting somebody who's in a different culture?

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I mean, I'm thinking more, you know, selfishly of bathing and doing content with parenting,

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which is such a cultural different thing. Is there a way to kind of, is it just also trial

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and error and kind of figuring it out a bit? So, yeah, I think what you can do is,

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so you do, you kind of work with one person as a project, and then you can continue to

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kind of do new projects with that person. You're not, you don't have to kind of hire

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someone for the next year and make this really big decision. It's just, hey, here's a small

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batch of videos. Let's go edit it, just see how it works. I'll, like, if you are the content

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creator, in this case, like, I'm not having them write descriptions. I'm not having them do the

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hashtags. I'm not having them do anything creative. I'm saying, here's a video, like,

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I need every word that this person says, you know, in a, you know, edited a certain way and put in,

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and then you can always give feedback and edits from there. But I'm not having them,

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I still posted the videos when we did that particular project. But you can always have

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people post it for you. But if I was going to have someone post for me, I would have, here's the video

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that's edited, here's the description I want, and here's all the hashtags I want. And so,

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you've written the content, and it takes just a little bit of time for you to put that in once,

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maybe in something like Notion, or you could put it in a spreadsheet, somewhere where they can get

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to it easily. And then from there, you can just, but I wouldn't have them create the content,

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if that makes sense. And over time, you may find that people just do a good job of doing that on

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your behalf. And you can kind of, you know, give them more and more responsibility. I'm trying to

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give a good example. Yeah, and we've had like, I mean, like some of some people we worked with,

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we hired this one, like, awesome person who was in the Philippines in January of 2021,

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when we started Kingdom Messengers. And every single week for almost for over two years now,

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she goes and like tracks

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every like writes down every single person's um totals for their uh for their social account so

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we know that you know Tamara had this many on Facebook we had this many on Twitter this many

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on TikTok this many on Facebook and she puts it all in a massive spreadsheet and she does it for

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every single person there's like 85 people that she does that every single Monday it's like I

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don't know if anyone on this angle wants to do that it doesn't sound like a fun job at all but

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literally for two years with I think maybe missing one or two in two years um just putting it in

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everything so that one person has stuck with us to do that one job for us um and it's just been

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pretty you know pretty pretty simple so um just meaning like it could be a long-term thing I know

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kind of said project but yeah we've had had help with that so we had another great example for that

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this is her name was Florence um Lindsay would be posting to um YouTube and then we needed someone

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to take the YouTube link and then um share it on like the Wednesday so we would have like Monday

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her post would be uploaded to Facebook but then on Wednesday we wanted to share the link to YouTube

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just to get more people over to the YouTube video and so we just created a little video a little

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checklist for her and so every single Monday the video would get posted and she would just go into

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Creator Studio copy the description paste it copy the thumbnail paste it um copy the YouTube link

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and then she would just add this one lens that said something about like in case you missed you

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know Monday's episode dot dot dot and then that was the description and she did that for months

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and months um just because and so we were able to be more active we we you know a bit of back and

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forth to get her set up but then we never had to think about it just kind of happened on autopilot

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so cool okay I see Xavier's got a question not so much a question I was just actually just going

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to answer Bridget and because when you're looking for someone like this way back in the day in the

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uh 2000s um I hired an Indian programming crew to to actually do the programming for a system that I

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designed and so hiring you know Indians of course they know computers they're they're good programmers

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and whatnot but I found it took six months to really till we got to the point of communication

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so that that we could talk to each other and always know what we were talking about because

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you have to be very explicit and if there are cultural differences you can run into it run into

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an issue what I found after that experience is I then went to the Philippines and hired

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and I was using somebody Philippines you can find English majors in the Philippines which are great

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okay so they do they do very very good work and um you need to be aware of cultural differences

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and if there are some things you just you you have to you know play play into that but this

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was my first time I didn't know it literally took six months before we were all on the same page at

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the same time and and whatnot but in terms of doing this you know this isn't a long-term

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engagement to begin with necessarily you just want to give them a job and I think Bruce what

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you did was asking them to um to do something small you know when to return it you want you

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just want to make sure that they can follow directions precisely and if they don't follow

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precise directions then don't even bother because it's not worth it it's not worth the effort but

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it's really not hard um and you know if there are things culturally that that are similar it

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makes it a whole lot easier it's really not that difficult yeah thank you that's great helpful

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thank you thanks um yeah so and again this is something you know I don't really you know

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typically we're talking in the range of a few a few hundred dollars you know it could be very small

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projects to begin with um just take it in little baby steps uh with everything and as that you kind

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of get used to working with that person and you kind of see how um responsive they are um I just

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go into it the mindset of abundance as with everything like there are you know hundreds of

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people that would love to help you with your channel and they actually probably have some

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really good skills that would um benefit your channel it's not like you're like asking around

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to try to get help like you're going to get 10 15 20 proposals within 24 hours so then you'll be

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00:29:21.520 --> 00:29:26.080
kind of that's why you can be kind of picky about about little things and making sure you're trying

428
00:29:26.080 --> 00:29:33.280
to filter through um that so uh and and I'll kind of share some things as well like you can do for

429
00:29:33.280 --> 00:29:37.840
your system so that you don't have to keep training people over and over again so one

430
00:29:37.840 --> 00:29:42.960
thing um we'll go through that so we talked about the hiring the tools these are the tools you could

431
00:29:42.960 --> 00:29:49.200
use um as far as like some of the systems and training as you saw we were using google drive

432
00:29:49.200 --> 00:29:54.880
for that example and you could use iCloud you could use Dropbox whatever tool you're using

433
00:29:54.880 --> 00:29:58.480
just you know specify that in the job description of what you're looking for

434
00:29:58.480 --> 00:29:59.940
and

435
00:30:00.000 --> 00:30:01.640
We came up with a very simple system.

436
00:30:01.640 --> 00:30:05.560
We didn't even have a to-do system or a notion or anything like that.

437
00:30:05.600 --> 00:30:08.080
Um, we just had folders.

438
00:30:08.120 --> 00:30:10.280
And so I'll open this up nice and big.

439
00:30:10.280 --> 00:30:12.280
We had a folder called inbox.

440
00:30:12.680 --> 00:30:16.480
And so all of the unedited videos went into the inbox folder.

441
00:30:16.760 --> 00:30:20.640
And then as that person, as John like went in there and he like edited them, he would

442
00:30:20.640 --> 00:30:22.520
then move them into this thing called completed.

443
00:30:22.880 --> 00:30:26.400
And so slowly things left, they got moved out of the inbox and they got

444
00:30:26.400 --> 00:30:27.880
put into the completed folder.

445
00:30:28.480 --> 00:30:31.840
And then I was able to, you know, go from there and I could download them

446
00:30:31.840 --> 00:30:33.600
and then post them on, on Tik TOK.

447
00:30:33.920 --> 00:30:38.400
Again, I just, I needed him for that one piece of the, it was the editing.

448
00:30:38.400 --> 00:30:43.480
Again, if you think about our, um, our whole, uh, the, the four P's, um,

449
00:30:43.560 --> 00:30:50.160
site, the content reps of, uh, and I got to remember planning, uh, producing,

450
00:30:50.200 --> 00:30:54.200
publishing, and promoting, you can kind of figure out which of those faith, which

451
00:30:54.200 --> 00:30:55.800
of those steps you could need help with.

452
00:30:56.240 --> 00:30:59.480
Uh, the planning side, like you writing the content, you producing the content.

453
00:30:59.600 --> 00:31:01.360
I don't think you can outsource that.

454
00:31:01.360 --> 00:31:06.240
That's you, but maybe to an AI, that's a whole nother thing we could talk about.

455
00:31:06.280 --> 00:31:08.040
Like that's, that's a whole thing.

456
00:31:08.120 --> 00:31:11.480
Um, yeah, we have like AI people write our ads now.

457
00:31:11.480 --> 00:31:12.240
It's pretty fun.

458
00:31:12.600 --> 00:31:19.040
Um, that's another training, but, um, you can, um, yeah, that's, that should be

459
00:31:19.040 --> 00:31:21.280
something we should, we should teach on that next week, next week.

460
00:31:21.840 --> 00:31:22.120
What?

461
00:31:22.200 --> 00:31:23.640
No, no, for your descriptions and stuff.

462
00:31:23.640 --> 00:31:24.800
Anyway, we'll get into it later.

463
00:31:25.800 --> 00:31:28.960
Um, so that's just simple folders, you know, keep it really,

464
00:31:28.960 --> 00:31:30.680
really simple, really clear.

465
00:31:31.000 --> 00:31:34.000
Um, I'll show you an example of what, so that's what this looked like here.

466
00:31:34.360 --> 00:31:37.280
Um, we would post, you know, videos right from our phone.

467
00:31:37.680 --> 00:31:40.840
Um, and that's something where we actually installed the Google

468
00:31:40.840 --> 00:31:43.520
drive app on, um, Anne's phone.

469
00:31:43.520 --> 00:31:46.680
And she could just upload them from her phone directly into Google drive.

470
00:31:46.720 --> 00:31:49.440
She didn't have to go, you know, to her computer, any of that.

471
00:31:49.440 --> 00:31:50.840
So it was really easy for her.

472
00:31:51.160 --> 00:31:54.800
And then, um, uh, John would pick it up here, you know, uh, go through

473
00:31:54.800 --> 00:31:57.360
and he would drop them into this like completed folder and

474
00:31:57.360 --> 00:31:59.080
all of these got, you know, edited.

475
00:31:59.480 --> 00:32:04.240
And of course, like I would open it up and actually watch the video.

476
00:32:04.640 --> 00:32:11.000
Um, so, so then she would have like, you can see the captions are there

477
00:32:11.360 --> 00:32:13.760
and, um, little emojis and stuff.

478
00:32:13.760 --> 00:32:15.800
So all of those got, got done.

479
00:32:16.280 --> 00:32:19.120
Um, and that happened to all of these videos.

480
00:32:19.120 --> 00:32:21.200
So he actually ended up doing 72 for us.

481
00:32:21.200 --> 00:32:24.760
Cause we ended up with some duplicates and a few things, but, um,

482
00:32:25.320 --> 00:32:27.960
and that was our whole system for this one.

483
00:32:27.960 --> 00:32:29.920
It was just him basically editing it.

484
00:32:29.960 --> 00:32:30.960
And then he gave it back to us.

485
00:32:30.960 --> 00:32:32.440
And then I still went and posted it.

486
00:32:32.920 --> 00:32:37.000
Um, if you kind of have your hashtags dialed in and you want to go ahead

487
00:32:37.000 --> 00:32:39.760
and write descriptions, you could have that person sign into your

488
00:32:39.760 --> 00:32:42.720
Tik TOK account and actually upload the video and schedule,

489
00:32:42.760 --> 00:32:44.040
you know, post it if you want.

490
00:32:44.280 --> 00:32:47.760
So I, if, if, and I, and I like, now that I'm working with this guy,

491
00:32:47.760 --> 00:32:51.480
John, like he's actually the guy I threw the little like data entry

492
00:32:51.720 --> 00:32:53.600
to on like around Christmas Eve.

493
00:32:53.880 --> 00:32:57.120
Cause he was 12, 14 hours ahead of us.

494
00:32:57.120 --> 00:32:58.800
So he was already finished with Christmas.

495
00:32:59.120 --> 00:33:01.640
And so I was getting into, you know, I was like, no one wants

496
00:33:01.640 --> 00:33:03.040
to do this on Christmas day.

497
00:33:03.360 --> 00:33:04.080
I sent it to him.

498
00:33:04.120 --> 00:33:06.600
He was more than happy to like, just take another quick job.

499
00:33:06.920 --> 00:33:10.960
And, um, now that he did this editing, I kinda, I really do trust him with

500
00:33:10.960 --> 00:33:13.960
like editing something like that because we've worked together now

501
00:33:13.960 --> 00:33:15.440
there's like that, that level of trust.

502
00:33:15.440 --> 00:33:19.720
So over time you can take like, Oh, they're just doing steps one through

503
00:33:19.720 --> 00:33:22.680
three, and now they're doing steps one through six, then they're doing

504
00:33:22.840 --> 00:33:26.640
steps one through eight, and you can kind of expand that out a little bit.

505
00:33:27.240 --> 00:33:30.360
So that's just a little pro tip on like how to organize stuff.

506
00:33:30.360 --> 00:33:32.440
That's what we found works really well.

507
00:33:32.440 --> 00:33:36.680
Of course you can do use tools like notion and others to, to add,

508
00:33:36.760 --> 00:33:39.120
you know, more, more to this, but I wanted to keep this,

509
00:33:39.160 --> 00:33:40.560
this version very simple.

510
00:33:41.080 --> 00:33:46.160
Um, And then as far as training goes, what we try to do is we have, um,

511
00:33:46.200 --> 00:33:49.160
and this is pretty much true of all parts of our business as we create

512
00:33:49.160 --> 00:33:52.080
video tutorials for everything.

513
00:33:52.080 --> 00:33:57.640
So, um, If even internally Tamara has a question about how to, she's

514
00:33:57.640 --> 00:33:59.160
just put a heart on the emoji.

515
00:33:59.160 --> 00:34:01.320
So that's, I guess, a good sign.

516
00:34:01.320 --> 00:34:05.400
We haven't bored her to tears with our videos, but if we're like

517
00:34:05.400 --> 00:34:06.840
Tamara sends our emails, right?

518
00:34:06.840 --> 00:34:11.440
So I know how to send emails with active campaign and I have a certain way.

519
00:34:11.440 --> 00:34:15.320
So what I did is instead of me taking a zoom call and like showing Tamara,

520
00:34:15.320 --> 00:34:18.800
which we've done plenty of that as well, I went ahead and made a video

521
00:34:18.800 --> 00:34:20.000
that was 10, 15 minutes.

522
00:34:20.320 --> 00:34:24.800
I use something like loom, or you can use clean shot or, um, the script.

523
00:34:24.800 --> 00:34:27.040
They all have screen capture stuff.

524
00:34:27.040 --> 00:34:29.400
And what you do is you're recording your screen, but you're

525
00:34:29.400 --> 00:34:30.920
also narrating it, right?

526
00:34:30.920 --> 00:34:32.840
So you're saying, Hey, so you're going to click here.

527
00:34:33.040 --> 00:34:34.040
You're going to go here.

528
00:34:34.159 --> 00:34:35.639
Hey, don't forget to do this piece.

529
00:34:36.000 --> 00:34:40.360
And so the great thing about having that video is let's say like, you know,

530
00:34:40.560 --> 00:34:44.320
even in this year things, you know, get even more kingdom messengers grows.

531
00:34:44.320 --> 00:34:48.000
And we have now like Tamara has someone who's helping her and that person

532
00:34:48.000 --> 00:34:49.120
needs to learn active campaign.

533
00:34:49.120 --> 00:34:49.560
Well, guess what?

534
00:34:49.560 --> 00:34:51.000
We just show them the video.

535
00:34:51.280 --> 00:34:54.400
And so, um, and the videos are great because you can pause them.

536
00:34:54.400 --> 00:34:57.400
You can rewatch, you can re you know, reference it in the future.

537
00:34:57.960 --> 00:35:00.000
Um, and in case you ever have to replace.

538
00:35:00.000 --> 00:35:03.080
that virtual assistant that you've hired,

539
00:35:03.080 --> 00:35:04.880
or if you just want to expand the team,

540
00:35:04.880 --> 00:35:07.520
let's say now you've got multiple people posting,

541
00:35:07.520 --> 00:35:10.480
rather than retraining that person again,

542
00:35:10.480 --> 00:35:12.400
you can just share videos with them.

543
00:35:12.400 --> 00:35:16.160
So you take the process and the knowledge

544
00:35:16.160 --> 00:35:19.200
and put it into a course type thing.

545
00:35:19.200 --> 00:35:20.920
It's not fancy.

546
00:35:20.920 --> 00:35:24.880
I'll just go ahead and show just even in Notion.

547
00:35:24.880 --> 00:35:28.400
We use Notion to organize these, but I'll just show you

548
00:35:28.440 --> 00:35:29.520
because you guys will have things

549
00:35:29.520 --> 00:35:31.320
like Kingdom Messengers in the future.

550
00:35:31.320 --> 00:35:33.120
We call them guides.

551
00:35:33.120 --> 00:35:38.120
And so you can see like every step here from support admin.

552
00:35:38.960 --> 00:35:42.120
Now, we didn't do this in a day or a week.

553
00:35:42.120 --> 00:35:43.920
This has taken a year to build out

554
00:35:43.920 --> 00:35:45.440
all these different videos.

555
00:35:45.440 --> 00:35:48.040
So now like if we want to talk about support,

556
00:35:48.040 --> 00:35:50.080
email management, or someone wants a refund,

557
00:35:50.080 --> 00:35:51.800
or like these different questions,

558
00:35:51.800 --> 00:35:54.480
we actually document that with answers

559
00:35:54.480 --> 00:35:56.640
and notes and things like that.

560
00:35:57.520 --> 00:36:01.920
There's different, just lots of different tutorials in here.

561
00:36:01.920 --> 00:36:02.760
Just getting the brand,

562
00:36:02.760 --> 00:36:05.160
like here's the colors we use for our brand.

563
00:36:05.160 --> 00:36:07.680
Like here's where to go to get those things.

564
00:36:07.680 --> 00:36:08.840
There's a little video.

565
00:36:10.000 --> 00:36:11.880
How we manage that analytics dashboard

566
00:36:11.880 --> 00:36:14.200
that I just talked about with the Kingdom Messengers

567
00:36:14.200 --> 00:36:16.480
and how there's different links to spreadsheets

568
00:36:16.480 --> 00:36:20.080
and all kinds of stuff and all of that.

569
00:36:20.080 --> 00:36:24.520
So anytime we have like a new process or a new thing,

570
00:36:24.760 --> 00:36:26.440
we try to create it in here

571
00:36:26.440 --> 00:36:28.840
and make sure that like we can always reference it.

572
00:36:28.840 --> 00:36:30.600
So we're kind of building this knowledge base

573
00:36:30.600 --> 00:36:34.240
of like how to do things so that our team can grow.

574
00:36:34.240 --> 00:36:36.560
And this definitely helps leverage my time.

575
00:36:36.560 --> 00:36:40.880
So I'm not having to do like repeating the same stuff over.

576
00:36:40.880 --> 00:36:41.880
And we actually had,

577
00:36:41.880 --> 00:36:44.200
if you guys remember Landrum was working with us

578
00:36:44.200 --> 00:36:47.120
and then she had her second baby.

579
00:36:47.120 --> 00:36:50.080
And so then she handed a lot of things off to Tamara.

580
00:36:50.080 --> 00:36:52.840
And so actually some of these videos aren't just me,

581
00:36:52.840 --> 00:36:55.440
but it's Landrum kind of sharing some of the details.

582
00:36:55.440 --> 00:36:57.000
So we've kind of over time,

583
00:36:57.000 --> 00:36:59.760
we're like building this big vault of training.

584
00:36:59.760 --> 00:37:01.720
So that can kind of happen over time.

585
00:37:03.680 --> 00:37:04.520
Awesome.

586
00:37:04.520 --> 00:37:07.320
So I'll take a few questions and we'll just chat a bit more.

587
00:37:07.320 --> 00:37:08.920
I will mention at the bottom of this,

588
00:37:08.920 --> 00:37:12.360
there's a link here to this guy, Nick Huber,

589
00:37:12.360 --> 00:37:16.000
who's he runs as a podcast called The Sweaty Startup.

590
00:37:16.000 --> 00:37:20.480
And he's one of the guys that I've been following in this.

591
00:37:20.560 --> 00:37:23.720
And he has a totally free mini course

592
00:37:23.720 --> 00:37:24.680
that you can go and get.

593
00:37:24.680 --> 00:37:27.400
It says buy now, but it's actually free.

594
00:37:27.400 --> 00:37:30.600
And he's got a lot of like details and stuff in here

595
00:37:30.600 --> 00:37:32.560
specifically about finding people in the Philippines.

596
00:37:32.560 --> 00:37:36.520
And he is a sponsor for the Support Shepherd.

597
00:37:36.520 --> 00:37:38.120
So you don't have to use Support Shepherd.

598
00:37:38.120 --> 00:37:40.400
You can see he's like testimonials there,

599
00:37:40.400 --> 00:37:43.640
but he just uses that service.

600
00:37:44.600 --> 00:37:47.400
So lots of cool like tools in here

601
00:37:47.400 --> 00:37:49.280
and things that are a little bit more structured

602
00:37:49.280 --> 00:37:52.520
than just this one kind of 40 minute training.

603
00:37:52.520 --> 00:37:54.920
So cool.

604
00:37:54.920 --> 00:37:56.800
Okay, let me stop sharing my screen here

605
00:37:56.800 --> 00:38:00.520
and just see if there's any questions, feedback, anything.

606
00:38:00.520 --> 00:38:01.360
Good.

607
00:38:03.680 --> 00:38:07.240
I'll start building your kingdom messenger armies this week.

608
00:38:10.440 --> 00:38:12.840
And one of the things like we've gone back and forth with

609
00:38:12.840 --> 00:38:16.280
is like people would love for us

610
00:38:16.280 --> 00:38:18.520
to just do all of this stuff for them.

611
00:38:18.800 --> 00:38:21.720
Like as a service, like as an agency,

612
00:38:21.720 --> 00:38:23.160
we keep going back and forth with that.

613
00:38:23.160 --> 00:38:25.320
We've gotten that question.

614
00:38:25.320 --> 00:38:27.840
Yeah, and we've even experimented with it a little bit.

615
00:38:27.840 --> 00:38:30.240
There's been a few people we've tried that with it.

616
00:38:30.240 --> 00:38:35.240
It's not bad, but it's just,

617
00:38:36.480 --> 00:38:37.800
I think there's a better way.

618
00:38:37.800 --> 00:38:40.320
Like we can just teach you how we would go about doing this.

619
00:38:40.320 --> 00:38:43.600
Like how did we solve this problem, even for posture?

620
00:38:43.600 --> 00:38:45.160
We, and even for kingdom messengers,

621
00:38:45.160 --> 00:38:47.240
this has been our approach to it all along

622
00:38:47.280 --> 00:38:49.280
is to like find people that can help

623
00:38:49.280 --> 00:38:51.520
and then just let it scale from there.

624
00:38:51.520 --> 00:38:52.360
So.

625
00:38:52.360 --> 00:38:54.800
Yeah, and build systems in place for that.

626
00:38:54.800 --> 00:38:55.640
Yeah.

627
00:38:57.120 --> 00:38:57.960
Cool.

628
00:39:00.520 --> 00:39:02.120
So any other questions?

629
00:39:02.120 --> 00:39:04.080
And we'll take some on this and at work.

630
00:39:04.080 --> 00:39:06.440
There's just other things you guys were needing help with.

631
00:39:06.440 --> 00:39:07.400
I didn't want to encourage you guys

632
00:39:07.400 --> 00:39:11.200
because I think Amy last week said, you know, maybe.

633
00:39:11.200 --> 00:39:14.040
Yeah, well, we were talking through like what's not working.

634
00:39:14.040 --> 00:39:16.600
So we can definitely, if you guys have other topics

635
00:39:16.960 --> 00:39:18.400
we want to cover before the end of January,

636
00:39:18.400 --> 00:39:19.760
we can include those.

637
00:39:19.760 --> 00:39:21.040
Other things that aren't working

638
00:39:21.040 --> 00:39:22.760
or things that you would like training in

639
00:39:22.760 --> 00:39:24.680
and you need help with.

640
00:39:27.800 --> 00:39:28.680
Hey, Kathy.

641
00:39:33.240 --> 00:39:35.480
I can't figure out how to raise my hand.

642
00:39:35.480 --> 00:39:37.120
I'm looking at the bottom

643
00:39:37.120 --> 00:39:40.960
and I haven't figured out how to do that, sorry.

644
00:39:40.960 --> 00:39:43.440
That's okay, physical hand works too.

645
00:39:44.400 --> 00:39:48.200
But I'd like to know the proper way.

646
00:39:49.120 --> 00:39:50.880
Do you see reactions under there?

647
00:39:50.880 --> 00:39:53.120
I do, and when I click on it,

648
00:39:53.120 --> 00:39:54.960
it says recognize hand gestures,

649
00:39:54.960 --> 00:39:57.400
but I couldn't get my hand to show up.

650
00:40:00.000 --> 00:40:03.320
There's a little like up arrow, but if you click to that,

651
00:40:03.320 --> 00:40:05.320
like where the little smiley faces,

652
00:40:06.320 --> 00:40:09.520
you should see there's like a heart,

653
00:40:09.520 --> 00:40:12.180
there's like a clapping hands thing.

654
00:40:14.680 --> 00:40:16.320
Okay, I see that.

655
00:40:16.320 --> 00:40:19.400
And I clicked, oh, it's the raise hand at the bottom.

656
00:40:19.400 --> 00:40:20.240
Yeah, oh, sorry.

657
00:40:20.240 --> 00:40:22.200
Yeah, it's at the bottom.

658
00:40:22.200 --> 00:40:23.720
I had clicked, I was looking,

659
00:40:23.720 --> 00:40:26.520
I missed the obvious because I, okay.

660
00:40:26.520 --> 00:40:29.400
All right, so, and then to unload, I do that.

661
00:40:29.440 --> 00:40:32.120
So this is, you may have said this

662
00:40:32.120 --> 00:40:33.320
in when you were talking,

663
00:40:33.320 --> 00:40:36.040
but when you get estimates from people,

664
00:40:36.040 --> 00:40:37.640
do you don't have to pay for like,

665
00:40:37.640 --> 00:40:38.480
when they edit these,

666
00:40:38.480 --> 00:40:41.360
they just will edit the video as a sample

667
00:40:41.360 --> 00:40:42.200
to show you the work,

668
00:40:42.200 --> 00:40:43.960
but you don't have to pay for that?

669
00:40:43.960 --> 00:40:47.600
No, I mean, again, the-

670
00:40:47.600 --> 00:40:48.840
It's like an interview.

671
00:40:48.840 --> 00:40:50.000
It's part of the interview,

672
00:40:50.000 --> 00:40:53.680
it's probably the best way to find out if it's a good fit.

673
00:40:54.800 --> 00:40:58.200
I didn't, so for this case, because it was just so simple,

674
00:40:58.200 --> 00:40:59.880
I didn't actually do an interview with him.

675
00:40:59.880 --> 00:41:02.520
I just asked him a few questions, he responded,

676
00:41:02.520 --> 00:41:04.240
and then he showed me the sample,

677
00:41:04.240 --> 00:41:05.360
and I thought that was good enough.

678
00:41:05.360 --> 00:41:08.160
So definitely like for other jobs

679
00:41:08.160 --> 00:41:09.760
where it's a lot more technical

680
00:41:09.760 --> 00:41:12.280
or there's a lot of more risk to it,

681
00:41:12.280 --> 00:41:14.440
I do multiple layers, I have specific questions,

682
00:41:14.440 --> 00:41:16.000
we have like-

683
00:41:16.000 --> 00:41:18.680
Like if we're hiring like developers that are writing code,

684
00:41:18.680 --> 00:41:20.600
that's a whole different interview process,

685
00:41:20.600 --> 00:41:23.080
but for editing a TikTok-

686
00:41:23.080 --> 00:41:26.000
Yeah, and again, there's way more people who wanna do it.

687
00:41:26.000 --> 00:41:27.520
So let's just say there's 20 people

688
00:41:27.800 --> 00:41:30.360
and like 75% of those people

689
00:41:30.360 --> 00:41:34.160
are not gonna take the time to do that sample, that's okay.

690
00:41:34.160 --> 00:41:36.360
I'm just gonna look at the people who did send me that.

691
00:41:36.360 --> 00:41:37.520
Like, I'm just gonna ignore them

692
00:41:37.520 --> 00:41:39.840
and then look at the people who did have the time.

693
00:41:39.840 --> 00:41:42.440
Gotcha, okay, so it's just their investment

694
00:41:42.440 --> 00:41:43.280
to try to get more work.

695
00:41:43.280 --> 00:41:45.000
Yeah, I mean, I wouldn't ask them to do like,

696
00:41:45.000 --> 00:41:46.720
edit like a 30 minute video,

697
00:41:46.720 --> 00:41:51.240
but this was a, I think it was a 15 second TikTok.

698
00:41:51.240 --> 00:41:53.480
So it was like, it wasn't long at all.

699
00:41:53.480 --> 00:41:55.240
I just picked something very small.

700
00:41:55.240 --> 00:41:57.000
And what's also helpful is you could,

701
00:41:57.480 --> 00:41:58.520
when you send the same sample piece

702
00:41:58.520 --> 00:41:59.920
to four different editors,

703
00:41:59.920 --> 00:42:02.560
they all did slightly different things.

704
00:42:02.560 --> 00:42:04.800
And it was actually really interesting to see,

705
00:42:04.800 --> 00:42:05.920
this person thought, you know,

706
00:42:05.920 --> 00:42:08.720
highlighted this a lot more, this person highlight that.

707
00:42:09.840 --> 00:42:11.080
So yeah, yeah, you can-

708
00:42:11.080 --> 00:42:13.000
Okay, all right, so you can request that

709
00:42:13.000 --> 00:42:15.800
and then it's their option if they want to do it

710
00:42:15.800 --> 00:42:16.640
for the job.

711
00:42:16.640 --> 00:42:18.280
The other thing I wanted to ask you is,

712
00:42:18.280 --> 00:42:21.760
when you posted like a job, do you estimate like,

713
00:42:21.760 --> 00:42:23.760
I was trying to catch so much information at once,

714
00:42:23.760 --> 00:42:27.120
but like $400 bid or whatever,

715
00:42:27.120 --> 00:42:31.480
do you post what you think like editing 63 videos

716
00:42:31.480 --> 00:42:35.920
should cost or do you leave it up to them to say,

717
00:42:35.920 --> 00:42:38.560
I will do that for X amount?

718
00:42:38.560 --> 00:42:41.160
Because I'd have no idea where to like,

719
00:42:41.160 --> 00:42:46.160
this is, I don't understand the technical price pricing.

720
00:42:46.640 --> 00:42:48.280
And so I wouldn't even know what to,

721
00:42:48.280 --> 00:42:51.880
what would be appropriate to ask somebody for a job,

722
00:42:51.880 --> 00:42:52.720
to do a job.

723
00:42:52.760 --> 00:42:53.680
That's a great question.

724
00:42:53.680 --> 00:42:57.760
So generally you're like in the range of like five

725
00:42:57.760 --> 00:43:00.800
to $7 an hour.

726
00:43:00.800 --> 00:43:02.240
So I would just work out like,

727
00:43:02.240 --> 00:43:04.560
how long would it take you to edit this thing?

728
00:43:04.560 --> 00:43:07.360
And kind of like, so I was looking at this and I was like,

729
00:43:07.360 --> 00:43:10.440
okay, it took me about 20 minutes to edit one of these.

730
00:43:10.440 --> 00:43:13.880
So I rounded it up to an hour, which was pretty generous.

731
00:43:13.880 --> 00:43:14.720
So it was like an hour.

732
00:43:14.720 --> 00:43:18.440
So I worked off about $6 or so per one.

733
00:43:18.440 --> 00:43:20.480
Now I wouldn't start with 60, right?

734
00:43:20.480 --> 00:43:22.120
We just had like this massive backlog.

735
00:43:22.520 --> 00:43:25.280
We were trying to do a promotion campaign for her, for Anne.

736
00:43:25.280 --> 00:43:27.400
We needed them done in like a few days.

737
00:43:27.400 --> 00:43:30.160
So it was a lot of work in a very short amount of time.

738
00:43:31.320 --> 00:43:34.600
What I would rather do is, hey, do five or do 10,

739
00:43:34.600 --> 00:43:37.920
you know, maybe for 50 bucks for five or something like,

740
00:43:37.920 --> 00:43:41.840
work out to where it's like five to $7 per video,

741
00:43:41.840 --> 00:43:43.400
I think is fine.

742
00:43:43.400 --> 00:43:45.640
Working off basically an hour.

743
00:43:45.640 --> 00:43:47.720
And if they could do it any faster,

744
00:43:47.720 --> 00:43:48.840
then that's good for them.

745
00:43:48.840 --> 00:43:50.920
But I was just kind of like,

746
00:43:50.920 --> 00:43:54.280
what is it worth to me to have each one of these done?

747
00:43:54.280 --> 00:43:55.640
Yeah.

748
00:43:55.640 --> 00:43:57.200
Okay, so regardless of the job,

749
00:43:57.200 --> 00:44:00.720
you'd just kind of think five to $7 an hour.

750
00:44:00.720 --> 00:44:01.560
Okay.

751
00:44:01.560 --> 00:44:03.400
Okay, thank you.

752
00:44:03.400 --> 00:44:05.760
I mean, for these types of tasks,

753
00:44:05.760 --> 00:44:07.440
like it's different if you're hiring someone

754
00:44:07.440 --> 00:44:09.760
to do like kind of a website and stuff.

755
00:44:09.760 --> 00:44:12.600
Yeah, I mean, the more technical it goes,

756
00:44:12.600 --> 00:44:14.880
like let's say you want to have someone build a webpage

757
00:44:14.880 --> 00:44:18.320
or like having people work on your WordPress site as well,

758
00:44:18.840 --> 00:44:20.600
or do SEO for your website,

759
00:44:20.600 --> 00:44:22.280
even that's like five to $10,

760
00:44:22.280 --> 00:44:24.080
you can find people for that.

761
00:44:24.080 --> 00:44:25.920
But the more technical you get,

762
00:44:25.920 --> 00:44:28.080
you know, that price is going to go up a little bit,

763
00:44:28.080 --> 00:44:31.160
but there's a lot of stuff that just has to happen

764
00:44:31.160 --> 00:44:34.160
that you don't necessarily need to be the person doing it.

765
00:44:34.160 --> 00:44:35.680
So that's a, that's good.

766
00:44:35.680 --> 00:44:36.520
And they will-

767
00:44:36.520 --> 00:44:37.520
Everything to manage your channel.

768
00:44:37.520 --> 00:44:38.360
Yeah.

769
00:44:38.360 --> 00:44:40.200
Those types of tasks I think would be within.

770
00:44:40.200 --> 00:44:41.800
Yeah, and I put $400,

771
00:44:41.800 --> 00:44:44.640
you have to put one price in for the projects in Upwork,

772
00:44:44.640 --> 00:44:47.120
and then they will also, they can change the price.

773
00:44:47.120 --> 00:44:49.080
So if you put in like a hundred

774
00:44:49.080 --> 00:44:50.760
and then they're like, that's a great,

775
00:44:50.760 --> 00:44:52.720
but I want to charge 150,

776
00:44:52.720 --> 00:44:55.040
they'll put 150 in the proposal

777
00:44:55.040 --> 00:44:58.160
and then you can just say yes or no to it, so.

778
00:44:58.160 --> 00:44:59.000
Okay.

779
00:44:59.000 --> 00:44:59.840
Okay, thank you.

780
00:45:00.000 --> 00:45:21.440
Okay, one of the things you mentioned last week, Lindsay, was an intern, and at some

781
00:45:21.440 --> 00:45:26.000
point, can you tell us how we would go about finding somebody?

782
00:45:26.000 --> 00:45:35.000
I feel like that's a good option for people who might be already mentoring, I think like

783
00:45:35.000 --> 00:45:38.800
next generation, like leaders.

784
00:45:38.800 --> 00:45:42.960
It doesn't have to be necessarily teenagers or college students, but people who might

785
00:45:42.960 --> 00:45:44.200
be more technically active.

786
00:45:44.200 --> 00:45:49.240
I mean, that could be someone peer-to-peer too, I'm not saying that's not, but my friend

787
00:45:49.240 --> 00:45:56.760
Allie did this, so she is a business coach, and so she put out to her network that she

788
00:45:56.760 --> 00:46:02.800
was looking for five interns to serve her for a year, and they did, it was pure trade.

789
00:46:02.800 --> 00:46:10.040
So she traded coaching for their hours to help her with social media management, building

790
00:46:10.040 --> 00:46:15.120
graphics, writing ad copy, like things that she needed throughout the year, and that's

791
00:46:15.120 --> 00:46:16.120
how she did it.

792
00:46:16.120 --> 00:46:21.800
So that wasn't necessarily just college students, it was multi-generational, but that's how,

793
00:46:21.800 --> 00:46:28.720
so if you're someone who has a service that you would trade, so like mentorship, business

794
00:46:28.720 --> 00:46:33.520
coaching, all that type of stuff, that would be a good like internship level something,

795
00:46:33.520 --> 00:46:37.320
and you call it an internship, it's really like, or an apprenticeship, it's someone who

796
00:46:37.320 --> 00:46:42.440
would be kind of coming in to your world behind the scenes, getting to rub shoulders with

797
00:46:42.440 --> 00:46:46.760
you, getting mentorship from you, or coaching from you, and then helping you serve your

798
00:46:46.760 --> 00:46:47.760
mission.

799
00:46:47.760 --> 00:46:48.760
Yeah, that, I love that.

800
00:46:48.760 --> 00:46:54.680
Yeah, and I felt like you would, because I know that you do mentorship already, and you've

801
00:46:54.680 --> 00:46:55.680
done that at different levels.

802
00:46:55.680 --> 00:47:00.200
Yeah, let's talk about like, practically, like how would you go about starting that,

803
00:47:00.200 --> 00:47:05.260
I think would be a good thing to, like you could even just on your channel, on your post

804
00:47:05.260 --> 00:47:09.320
at the end of one of your videos, just say, hey, just letting you know, like we are taking,

805
00:47:09.320 --> 00:47:13.320
you know, I'm, we're looking for one or two people to like work with, it's gonna look

806
00:47:13.320 --> 00:47:18.320
something like this, if that's you, like, please email this email, or fill out a form

807
00:47:18.320 --> 00:47:20.440
or something, you know, to apply.

808
00:47:20.440 --> 00:47:21.440
Yeah.

809
00:47:21.440 --> 00:47:25.400
And then you can just see who's out there, who's listening, because you may have people

810
00:47:25.400 --> 00:47:29.520
who are like, oh, my gosh, Amy Ryburn, like, she's like changed my life, like I all these

811
00:47:29.520 --> 00:47:33.640
videos, and then she and now she like, she's like wanting some help with, I know how to

812
00:47:33.640 --> 00:47:34.640
do social media.

813
00:47:34.640 --> 00:47:35.640
Let me like,

814
00:47:35.640 --> 00:47:38.760
Yeah, so I would be, I would, if you're putting out to a network like that, I'd just be specific,

815
00:47:39.200 --> 00:47:44.480
like, you're looking for, like, call it a social media intern, for like, six months,

816
00:47:44.480 --> 00:47:46.560
maybe if you wanted to, because you're doing it for the first time, you just want to see

817
00:47:46.560 --> 00:47:50.760
even how it works for you, like, if this is the way you want to go, looking for a six,

818
00:47:50.760 --> 00:47:56.120
doing a six, hosting a six month internship, looking for a social media intern or two.

819
00:47:56.120 --> 00:48:00.800
And you just, you can have them do an application, if it's people that you don't know, personally,

820
00:48:00.800 --> 00:48:03.220
like you're wanting to use your channel.

821
00:48:03.220 --> 00:48:06.880
And in that application, it doesn't have to be like, super long, but you know, ask them

822
00:48:06.880 --> 00:48:12.960
about their skill set, you know, things that they're asking for their, their personal social

823
00:48:12.960 --> 00:48:13.960
media handles.

824
00:48:13.960 --> 00:48:18.840
So you can see like, what their social media looks like, how are they posting?

825
00:48:18.840 --> 00:48:22.480
You can ask them a little bit, you know, we ask people in our like, kingdom messenger,

826
00:48:22.480 --> 00:48:25.360
like, it's just a good question, like, ask us, like, tell us a little bit about your

827
00:48:25.360 --> 00:48:29.200
relationship with Jesus, like, let them kind of share a little bit.

828
00:48:29.200 --> 00:48:33.440
And that will help you like an application like that, where it's just them filling out

829
00:48:33.440 --> 00:48:35.920
a form is a great first step.

830
00:48:35.920 --> 00:48:40.440
Because it helps you see, you know, say you get 50 applications, you can't really do 50

831
00:48:40.440 --> 00:48:45.320
phone calls, but then maybe pick your top 10 or five from that and do some phone call,

832
00:48:45.320 --> 00:48:47.960
do a phone call interview or zoom call interview.

833
00:48:47.960 --> 00:48:51.440
And to see if it's a good fit to see if there's chemistry, like don't underestimate the power

834
00:48:51.440 --> 00:48:52.880
of chemistry.

835
00:48:52.880 --> 00:48:55.960
This is for people who because again, you're thinking about this isn't just someone I'm

836
00:48:55.960 --> 00:49:00.040
hiring to do a task, I'm going to be pouring into them for six months.

837
00:49:00.040 --> 00:49:04.680
And then the thing that I would be very clear about is what does that pouring in look like?

838
00:49:04.680 --> 00:49:09.640
So it's not happening, like, there needs to be some intention, like, hey, every month,

839
00:49:09.640 --> 00:49:15.480
we're going to have like a 60 minute mentorship call or every other week or, you know, and

840
00:49:15.480 --> 00:49:19.000
put a time like limit on it's not like an open call, we're going to chat for five hours

841
00:49:19.000 --> 00:49:23.500
about your life, but be specific about what your output is going to be.

842
00:49:23.500 --> 00:49:27.400
And then you can be specific about what you're expecting from them, like what their week

843
00:49:27.400 --> 00:49:31.640
would look like for you, or like what tasks you would need help with, just like you just

844
00:49:31.640 --> 00:49:35.000
like what Bruce kind of walked through, like they have a job description.

845
00:49:35.000 --> 00:49:38.480
And that's how I would, I would do that.

846
00:49:38.480 --> 00:49:40.480
So that's kind of just a simple structure.

847
00:49:40.480 --> 00:49:44.840
And then depending on if there's something that's important to you, you can build that

848
00:49:44.840 --> 00:49:48.920
into the application process or whatnot.

849
00:49:48.920 --> 00:49:52.440
But that's what I would, that's how I would structure it.

850
00:49:52.840 --> 00:49:54.200
Oh, thank you so much.

851
00:49:54.200 --> 00:49:55.880
That's that really helps me.

852
00:49:55.880 --> 00:49:56.380
Yeah.

853
00:50:00.000 --> 00:50:05.120
Okay, I'm going to drop the just the link to this, and then we'll put it in the description

854
00:50:05.120 --> 00:50:07.880
and other places for the all these links.

855
00:50:07.880 --> 00:50:12.280
But if you wanted some of these links, like right after this call, you can just click

856
00:50:12.280 --> 00:50:13.280
on that.

857
00:50:13.280 --> 00:50:17.400
And it's my Notion page here with my notes.

858
00:50:17.400 --> 00:50:21.600
And I'm trying to think what are we going to talk about AI next week?

859
00:50:21.600 --> 00:50:24.600
No, that could be a fun conversation.

860
00:50:24.600 --> 00:50:25.600
Yeah.

861
00:50:25.600 --> 00:50:32.840
I was gonna say one of our friends, Steven and Chelsea recently did this whole process

862
00:50:32.840 --> 00:50:35.060
to hire a nanny for their kids.

863
00:50:35.060 --> 00:50:38.800
And they put out a thing on Facebook, they had like a form for people to fill out, I

864
00:50:38.800 --> 00:50:41.320
think that like 100 something applications.

865
00:50:41.320 --> 00:50:45.760
And they had everybody like, it's basically the whole process is just filtering down people

866
00:50:45.760 --> 00:50:49.960
to get the right person to do as much automated pieces of that.

867
00:50:49.960 --> 00:50:51.360
So like, just like any hiring process.

868
00:50:51.360 --> 00:50:52.360
Yeah.

869
00:50:52.360 --> 00:50:55.760
So I think they then emailed, hey, these, there's these 60 people they thought could

870
00:50:55.760 --> 00:50:58.500
be potential just looking at the resumes.

871
00:50:58.500 --> 00:51:03.080
And they send send those 60 people, you know, a link to go create a 10, 15 minute video

872
00:51:03.080 --> 00:51:05.280
where they could just share their experience.

873
00:51:05.280 --> 00:51:10.080
They watched those, and they got it down to like 10 or 15, it was like 10, yeah, 10.

874
00:51:10.080 --> 00:51:13.840
And then they did something else that to do, and then they did a three of those people

875
00:51:13.840 --> 00:51:14.840
they met in person.

876
00:51:14.840 --> 00:51:15.840
Again, this is for a nanny.

877
00:51:15.840 --> 00:51:16.840
Yeah.

878
00:51:16.840 --> 00:51:17.840
So nanny, like for your kids, it's like pretty intense.

879
00:51:18.840 --> 00:51:23.080
But Bruce was just very impressed by the filtering process, it was just because they were able

880
00:51:23.080 --> 00:51:28.680
to automate that what would typically be an overwhelming thing, like getting 60 applications

881
00:51:28.680 --> 00:51:33.280
in, they were able to automate up to a certain point, this again, going into like an internship

882
00:51:33.280 --> 00:51:37.720
where you're going to be working with these people more one on one, there's more access,

883
00:51:37.720 --> 00:51:41.040
same same concept that we've been talking about with our blueprint, right, kind of the

884
00:51:41.040 --> 00:51:46.120
outer layer, the middle layer, the inner, the inner layer, as far as how how close people

885
00:51:46.120 --> 00:51:53.240
are to you, and how much access they have, you want to you want to match that level of

886
00:51:53.240 --> 00:51:54.240
with what you're doing.

887
00:51:54.240 --> 00:51:58.200
So again, you're hiring someone as a VA to edit tick tock videos, you don't probably

888
00:51:58.200 --> 00:52:02.720
even have to talk to them in person, if you know, like, like, we just do a sample work,

889
00:52:02.720 --> 00:52:03.720
this is great.

890
00:52:03.720 --> 00:52:07.400
And we can do slack communication or email communication.

891
00:52:07.400 --> 00:52:10.880
But if you're wanting to hire an intern, that's a little bit more of a different role and

892
00:52:10.880 --> 00:52:13.120
a different input output relationship.

893
00:52:13.120 --> 00:52:16.880
And so yeah, yeah, it's good.

894
00:52:16.880 --> 00:52:21.040
But I think what you liked about it was at the end, they had really five outstanding

895
00:52:21.040 --> 00:52:23.180
candidates, obviously, they could only hire one.

896
00:52:23.180 --> 00:52:27.080
And so then they had four candidates that they were actually able to share with their

897
00:52:27.080 --> 00:52:29.520
group of friends that they had done all the vetting for.

898
00:52:29.520 --> 00:52:30.520
Yeah.

899
00:52:30.520 --> 00:52:35.200
And they had gone, you know, so it was actually they were able to bless people who also process

900
00:52:35.200 --> 00:52:37.840
that they went through people who are like, because everyone's always looking for good

901
00:52:37.840 --> 00:52:38.840
childcare.

902
00:52:38.840 --> 00:52:39.840
Yeah.

903
00:52:39.920 --> 00:52:42.920
Anyway, Bruce loves automation and all of that stuff.

904
00:52:42.920 --> 00:52:46.880
And so, okay, well, I hope this was a helpful conversation.

905
00:52:46.880 --> 00:52:51.520
I hope it gets if anything, I hope it gets you guys thinking of just thinking bigger

906
00:52:51.520 --> 00:52:53.000
about what you're building.

907
00:52:53.000 --> 00:52:57.040
You know, you're not stuck in, you're not stuck doing the same thing for the next 10

908
00:52:57.040 --> 00:52:58.040
years.

909
00:52:58.040 --> 00:53:01.080
Yeah, no one is signing up for a life sentence, the way what you're doing right now does not

910
00:53:01.080 --> 00:53:04.760
mean it has to be the same way for the next five years.

911
00:53:04.760 --> 00:53:08.240
Be honest with yourself of, you know, what's not working.

912
00:53:08.240 --> 00:53:12.400
And then look for not just not don't look at the problem of that, look at the possibility

913
00:53:12.400 --> 00:53:14.720
of what it could be to help you.

914
00:53:14.720 --> 00:53:18.720
So that again, you're freed up to do what is working and what only you can do best.

915
00:53:18.720 --> 00:53:19.720
Yeah.

916
00:53:19.720 --> 00:53:23.840
And what's kind of things in that AC that you feel like giving you this thing, like

917
00:53:23.840 --> 00:53:27.840
we couldn't be doing all the things where we feel it's called us to if we didn't have

918
00:53:27.840 --> 00:53:32.320
a great team around us that are like, helping make that mission possible, but it has it

919
00:53:32.320 --> 00:53:37.360
starts with a mindset of like, and it is like the hardest person to hire is that first

920
00:53:37.360 --> 00:53:38.360
person.

921
00:53:38.360 --> 00:53:41.080
This is a great way to kind of test it out, try it out.

922
00:53:41.080 --> 00:53:42.480
You're not risking a lot of money.

923
00:53:42.480 --> 00:53:46.960
You're not signing people up on a monthly salary that you're now like obligated to keep

924
00:53:46.960 --> 00:53:49.040
paying every single month.

925
00:53:49.040 --> 00:53:53.440
It's a way to kind of try it out and just another muscle to build muscle to build.

926
00:53:53.440 --> 00:53:54.440
Yeah.

927
00:53:54.440 --> 00:53:57.560
And again, it's any because you're going to come up with maybe post editing videos for

928
00:53:57.560 --> 00:53:58.560
Tik Tok.

929
00:53:58.560 --> 00:54:00.000
It may be creating a sales funnel.

930
00:54:00.000 --> 00:54:04.120
It may be creating a landing page for a book that you're doing, you know, there could be

931
00:54:04.120 --> 00:54:05.680
a lot of different things that pop up.

932
00:54:05.680 --> 00:54:10.120
So if you have this mindset, it really empowers you to like, dream about things like, oh,

933
00:54:10.120 --> 00:54:12.160
I'm going to do this, this and this.

934
00:54:12.160 --> 00:54:18.200
And it helps collapse time on all those things you've been dreaming about doing, but haven't

935
00:54:18.200 --> 00:54:22.240
been able to take a step forward because you think you have to do all the things with that

936
00:54:22.240 --> 00:54:23.240
one thing.

937
00:54:23.240 --> 00:54:24.240
And so, yeah.

938
00:54:24.240 --> 00:54:25.240
It's awesome.

939
00:54:25.240 --> 00:54:26.240
Yeah.

940
00:54:26.240 --> 00:54:27.240
Cool.

941
00:54:27.240 --> 00:54:28.240
So good.

942
00:54:28.240 --> 00:54:29.240
We don't have any other questions.

943
00:54:29.480 --> 00:54:31.280
I don't see any more questions.

944
00:54:31.280 --> 00:54:35.720
Don't forget the, you know, you can have the, you know, schedule your strategy calls with

945
00:54:35.720 --> 00:54:39.560
me if you haven't already, uh, tech calls as needed.

946
00:54:39.560 --> 00:54:44.480
And, um, we will, and mini course admin course is coming this week.

947
00:54:44.480 --> 00:54:45.480
Yeah.

948
00:54:45.480 --> 00:54:46.480
Facebook ads.

949
00:54:46.480 --> 00:54:47.480
And what we'll do is we'll put that out there.

950
00:54:47.480 --> 00:54:51.680
And then if you guys have questions specifically about anything you got stuck on for your specific,

951
00:54:51.680 --> 00:54:52.680
yeah.

952
00:54:52.680 --> 00:54:54.960
Cause that was the reason we decided to do the mini course, knowing that you guys might

953
00:54:54.960 --> 00:54:57.760
have something specific for your account that might not pertain.

954
00:54:57.760 --> 00:55:00.000
So we're trying to help, you know,

955
00:55:00.000 --> 00:55:03.080
focus you specifically on your account.

956
00:55:03.080 --> 00:55:05.400
So get in there, watch it, test things out.

957
00:55:05.400 --> 00:55:07.560
And if you get stuck or if you come up with a barrier,

958
00:55:07.560 --> 00:55:09.000
that's where those tech calls would be great for

959
00:55:09.000 --> 00:55:10.480
as far as where the ads go.

960
00:55:10.480 --> 00:55:11.320
That's great.

961
00:55:11.320 --> 00:55:12.160
Yeah.

962
00:55:12.160 --> 00:55:12.980
Awesome.

963
00:55:12.980 --> 00:55:13.820
All right, guys.

964
00:55:13.820 --> 00:55:14.660
See you next week.

965
00:55:14.660 --> 00:55:15.480
See you.

966
00:55:15.480 --> 00:55:16.320
Bye.