Awesome. Well, welcome, everybody, to the first, I guess, official for the new idea
protectors within the protection portal. This is your first gathering. So just want to welcome
all of you. I mean, this is this is really the next step. You know, somebody really I
think they put it. They put it away that I hadn't thought about before, which was they
they talked about this as essentially intellectual property law insurance, which that was brilliant.
Whoever came up with that. Was that you, Karen? Karen, that was brilliant. Like I, I never
thought about that, but it makes complete sense. So the intent of this is really as
you grow, you're going to have more questions. It's just you're going to see it's going to
just it's going to continue and you're going to get better at things and then you're going
to go, oh, what about this? And so this resource is here for you every single month. We get
together for an hour and a half and I answer all of your questions, no legal advice. But,
you know, if you're going into specificity, I may back you out. You know, like I don't
want you to disclose your personal inventions or the inventions of your clients or things
like that. So I'll probably back you out to a level of talking about it theoretically,
as opposed to talking about like a cell phone. I'll say you mean a device for telecommunications
like something like that, just so you're not disclosing things that can hurt you or
your clients. But many of you here have clients and many of you are obviously working with
a who of some sort. You're running challenges, you're you're guiding others. And so you're
going to find that you're going to have questions for your people and feel free to bring them
here. Some of you are already doing that. I'm getting emails from some of you already
kind of lining up. These are my first questions for the first session in March. So I love that.
So feel free to keep sending those over. I go through all those and I kind of figure out which
ones are are really aligned, but where we should go at the next meeting. And but the real hope
is that this becomes a a resource for you so that as you're going along, you're not spending
a tremendous amount of money and resources trying to figure out what to do. Right. At least we can
we can get you to a point where you kind of have an idea what to do. Then you can go see
your attorneys. Right. So I'm just trying to make it so that you're as you grow, there's certain
things that are necessary as you grow. And this, quite frankly, is going to be one of them. You'll
see. I mean, some of you have told me you're already following trademark applications for
your clients. I mean, I didn't know that was going to happen that fast, but apparently some
of you are already doing that. So which is wonderful. So the basic outline of this is very
similar to VIP, but it's kind of like I don't want to say on steroids, but it's it's it's we go deeper.
We take single topics and then we go into a lot of detail. And as I'm going into them, I'm going
to be asking you, what are your questions? What are your scenarios? How would you implement this?
Why would you do that? Why don't you do that? It's going to be very engaged. You can get as
much out of it as you want, which is awesome. So I would try to be here every single month. It's the
second it's a second Wednesday, right, Larissa, second Wednesday of every month. Yeah. And so
you're raising your hand. What's up?
There's a question for transcript. Are we able to transcript or would you rather not?
Transcript? No, I'm not. I'm not doing transcripts. Yeah. No, no. Anything legal. Do not want
transcripts. No, that's just the the only time I allow transcripts when I'm talking about legal
things is the trans the person who's actually doing transcription services in a courtroom.
That's really it. And we got to pay that person extra to to get a copy. Isn't that baloney? Like,
you know how much money we spend with the courts? And then I got to pay them extra to get a copy of
the transcript. That's crazy. Anyways. So the other thing I want to make you all aware of is
you're all going to be getting an announcement shortly because I just want to honor all of you.
I know you're already telling other people about this program. So I want to make sure you're
you are being blessed with it as well. And my intent was not just to give you good content,
but to make sure that this becomes a resource for you. And you essentially are the ambassadors at
this point of this program. And so as you're referring others, you're going to have your own
affiliate links. So every everything that comes in associated with anybody who clicks on your
affiliate links, you get 10 percent of everything. That means the challenge. That means the VIP.
That means the upsell. And that means later masterminds and everything, everything you're
linked to them. And so as an example, some of you got in at the fourteen ninety five.
going to 1995 in April. I was debating not to do that, but I keep getting people telling me it's
too low. You know, you're doing 18 hours of time into this. It should be higher. I did get a
question from three of you, which was, can you do a lifetime membership? And so, yes. So I put
together a lifetime membership program. The way the lifetime membership is going to work is that
from the point you come in going forward, you never have to pay again for another renewal ever.
That program is going to be $49.95, and that's for a lifetime membership. In April, it's going
to $19.95. It may go to $24.95. I'm not sure. I'm trying to keep it low because I want to help as
many people as I can, and I'm not trying to just become rich on this. This is really to make sure
everybody is benefiting as fast as possible. And at the same time, I'm getting heat from
people who are higher up saying what you're doing makes no sense. I mean, you know, you build per
hour almost, you know, at $600 an hour. Two of your hours is $1,200. Why are you doing this?
And so I said, well, let's have at least 100x people first. Then we can do other stuff
all we want, but let's at least start with a plateau, right? Then we can build. So I think
it's going to level off likely either at $19.95 or $24.95 a year. One of those two,
and then I'll just keep it there. Larissa has a question. Yes.
So it's already being asked. Is that an additional fee or minus what they've already invested?
Oh, no. Minus what you've put in. Yeah, that's total. No, no. Yeah. No, that's not an extra fee.
That's a total fee of everything. Yeah. There's going to be a different package that will become
available either in April or June. I'm going to be running it every other month. So either April
or June, there's going to be another package. It's called a platinum package. Nobody knows about this.
I'm working on this right now with a team. What it's going to do is make literally every single
video available, all cataloged by subject matter. That would be my daughter. That's interesting.
Let me just tell her I'm going to text her back.
Okay. I know she has money for gas, so she should be good for a little while at least.
She's not going to see this, so I'm safe. I'm safe. So what this platinum package is,
is whoever goes into the platinum package is going to have access to literally everything,
all cataloged by subject matter. That means every challenge, every VIP, every protection portal,
everything. So every single video that's available. And that's, I have a number for that,
but that's going to be, I want to finish kind of building that up before I reveal the number for
that. So that's kind of it. So if any of you are interested in the lifetime fulfill, just DM me or
let me know what is going on. Sorry guys. My daughter doesn't do that. She just hit me with
three texts back to back to back and families first. So I don't need to know what's going on.
Oh yeah. My daughter's coming home tomorrow. I know that sweetheart.
So my daughter goes to school at RPI. You will all meet my daughter. I'll introduce you to her
because she wants to get involved with the corporation as well. And so she's going to
be helping out on the backend. She goes to RPI for architecture and interior design. So
yeah, she'll love meeting all of you. So if you have any questions on that, just let me know.
You're going to see an announcement for the affiliate program. Each of you will get a
separate email. Obviously, if you don't want to do it, feel free. You don't have to sign up. I'm
making it available for you if you want it. It's just that you're already referring people and it
just makes no sense for you to make no money for referring people. You're already doing it because
people are already asking me about April. So this weekend, Saturday, we should be done with
upgrading everything and ready to go for April. And at that point, you'll have your affiliate
links and everything will be ready and then you can do what you do. As you're going along,
if you have questions on anything, on any of the programs, dates, anything like that,
just let me know. Hey, Miguel, how are you? I can see you in the car now. Good to see you, buddy.
So what you're going to notice in the protection portal is I'm going to be announcing different
things as you're going along. Resources that I think are going to be very beneficial to you,
like places where I find free licensing of software or free licensing of music or video.
or searching resources, every once in a while,
I'll run a survey to find out if you want agents
from another country.
Like I said, I have agents in every country of the world.
So if you tell me you're starting to do a lot of work
in China, or you're doing a lot of work in Germany,
or even the UK, wherever it is, you can let me know
and I can get agents for you to come in
and be a guest speaker.
And it doesn't cost you a penny.
It's all based on my relationships with these people.
The other thing is, as you start to work in other countries,
you will get my discounts.
So what I'm arranging, this is brand new.
Nobody knows about this.
You guys are the first ones to get this.
So if you start requiring support in, let's say, wherever,
my associates, I'm telling them,
anyone that I refer to them, they have to give my discounts.
And just so you understand the way the legal system works,
I kind of touched base on this for you,
but I think it's really valuable for you to understand
what works in the legal system.
So there is a, hey, oh my gosh, you're gonna say hi?
She's gonna say hi?
No way.
So this is my wife, my lovely wife, Bonnie.
Hi.
Hey.
So those are broken arms.
Thank you for the prayers for her.
So she's the ice hockey player who slipped on the ice
and broke her arms, unfortunately.
But she's recovering.
She's doing well.
So thanks for stopping by and saying hi.
Love you, babe.
That was pretty cool.
I didn't know it was gonna happen.
Awesome.
So yeah, so what's gonna happen is
if you need any of the associates in any of the countries,
I'll make the personal introductions myself
so that they know that you're affiliated with me,
and then they'll give you my discounts.
The way that lawyers work,
and they're horrible at this.
Attorneys are so bad at this.
But there's like maybe 10 to 20% of the lawyers
that do this well.
They work in these reciprocating work forums.
That's what they do.
So I send Coach Jennifer 10 cases.
And I say, Jennifer, here's like 10 cases
for you to file in Switzerland, right?
And so she goes and she does the filings.
And I say, well, just so you know,
in this relationship, I expect to receive something back.
So now she should be sending me work
to file in the United States
because she's an agent in Switzerland.
So it's like May, June,
and I haven't gotten a single case from her.
I'm like, hey, Coach Jennifer, how's it going?
How's the chocolate in Switzerland?
Yeah, yeah, let's get to the point.
I haven't gotten any work back from you.
We should be reciprocating work here
because intellectual property,
what's called an intangible asset,
that means it has a value.
And so every case that she files in Switzerland,
she's making money off of.
So she should be reciprocating that relationship.
So that's the way good lawyers build up a book of business.
That's how they do it.
They support each other in different countries.
They build these networks.
So anytime that I refer you to somebody,
I'm gonna be on the introduction
if you wanna take advantage of the discount
just so that they know.
Otherwise, they won't give you the discount.
What they'll do instead
is they'll charge you their normal rates
of like seven, $800 an hour,
instead of like 480, 500,
and sometimes like in the 300s,
which is pretty impressive
for some of the rates that we have.
Any questions so far?
This is more like just the administrative stuff.
I just wanna make sure you understand
the background of what's going on.
Yeah, yeah, go ahead.
Go ahead, unmute yourself and ask.
So I am not here to offend.
I'm just trying to put a couple of things together
in my head.
So for example, I'm part of LegalShield
as a person who participates in it,
and I have it with my business coverage.
And because I have that,
I get a discount, 25% of lawyers that I utilize
out of their referred network.
Is there an opportunity for you
to set something up like that?
To set up a 25% discount on-
Or that style, or even work with LegalShield
for what you're offering?
No, no, I would never work with LegalShield.
That's not...
So there's a number of different services
that are available
that are really good at doing cookie cutter work,
essentially.
Like they're very good at like contracts.
Contracts are perfect, right?
So I'm gonna do a corporate formation of an LLC.
Reach out to LegalLoop, LegalShield, all these others.
Give me a copy of this.
Then I need an attorney just to overlook it
after I fill in the blanks, right?
Those entities are great.
What they're horrible at is strategic planning.
They don't do strategic planning.
They don't understand all the different aspects
of like patents, trademarks, copyrights.
trade secrets, global IP portfolio management,
any of those issues.
They don't do opinion work.
They don't hit it at that level.
They're very good at doing single projects.
So let's say you are going to do a joint development
agreement with somebody on a new technology, right?
You can reach out to them and say,
I need a joint development agreement.
OK, now I've got it.
Now, I need to modify the document.
Now, you modified a document.
Now, I need a lawyer to just look at it.
Now, these lawyers are already familiar with the document.
So now they just say, yep, that name there.
Just move this over here.
Move that over there.
Put in the information there.
Yep, it looks good.
You're fine to go, right?
What they don't do is dig in.
What I do is kind of a different level of legal support.
What I do is kind of like I understand
what the corporation's doing, and I give them
guidance on whether or not you should
do the joint development agreement in the first place.
Should you file a patent application?
Should you file provisional?
Should you file utility?
Should you file a PCT application,
taking advantage of the Paris Convention?
Should you not?
Like all those different things.
And those services that you're talking about
are really good for like I'll tell you every once in a while,
I'll say, you know what?
You need a contract on this.
Look up legal loop.
Like just do a quick search.
It's like $90.
Just grab one of those contracts.
But now what you need to do is be
able to modify it based on your circumstances.
See, a lot of individuals, what they'll do
is they'll grab the general template,
but it's not customized to their circumstances.
So as an example, you've got, let's say,
three people that you're building a corporation with.
One of them is an inventor.
One of them is affiliated with another corporation.
Those standard forms do not address that situation at all.
You've got to make sure there's a segmentation
between the intellectual property
and the corporation that's associated
with one of the board members who's
with another corporation.
If they're an inventor, what happens?
All these other things, you have to figure that out.
So when it's really simple, those kind of programs
are really good, like legal loop.
And there's actually like five or six of them.
There's a bunch of them.
In the IP area, in my opinion, do not touch those people.
They're dangerous.
I mean, when I mean dangerous,
I don't mean just like, oh, well, it'll be okay.
I mean, very dangerous.
Because I've had a number of individuals come to me
after they've used some of those resources
and said, I did a patent search.
Everything looked great.
I got sued.
What do I do?
Here's my report from legal loop.
And I was like, oh.
And so what they did was they paid a flat fee
for a patent search and a patent application filing.
And all the people did was they took the description.
They did a quick online search.
They gave them all the reports,
but then they took the description
and they filed it as a provisional
without flushing it out to make it enabling
the one of ordinary skill in the art.
Like they didn't flush out all the details
that are necessary to make it enforceable later.
So there are certain circumstances where it's very simple.
Those are great.
Simple form, grab a simple form.
But when you're looking at like serious situations
like intellectual property, you gotta be very careful.
You really have to be careful because you can't recover.
Once you make the mistake, like if you follow provisional
and you believe that you're fine
and more than one year passes
and you've been offering it for sale,
your invention is donated to the public period.
There's no recovery.
Like you can't fix it.
It's gone.
And I've got like those reports from those companies,
a number of those that people have come in with
and we can't help them.
They're just done.
So what I would say is if you're thinking of doing that,
let me know.
And I'll say, yeah, this one totally.
That makes sense.
Use them for that.
And it might be another situation where I say,
yeah, you don't wanna do that.
Like just, you need somebody to dig in the dirt with you.
This isn't as simple as like poking your finger in
and dropping a seed and covering it.
It's, you need to work the soil.
You need to water it at a specific time
and you need the right lighting.
You know, does that make sense?
Yeah.
I think every resource is beneficial
in a specific situation.
And so you just have to know which situations to do it
and which situations not to.
So, and you know, we've seen a number of those
and I even sent some of my clients over.
I was like, dude, you don't need me.
Like, this is so simple.
Like just grab a form off of here.
You don't need me for that.
And just to be clear for all of you here,
I'm not trying to get clients.
Just, that's not what this is about.
I'm not trying to make you hire me as a lawyer.
That's not what this is about.
If you're in a situation and you need help,
I'll always be there for you.
But no, this is about,
the portal is really about supporting you as you're growing.
making sure that you're aware of certain circumstances
so you can guide your who, yourself,
and decrease the legal fees
that you essentially end up paying.
Or you're prepared to talk to people properly
when you get to that point.
Bonnie, do you had a question,
or was that all on same lines, or?
Okay.
Yeah, Jennifer, go right ahead.
Question about your referral network.
Is that only other IP attorneys,
or is that other types of attorneys?
It's every, I have attorneys in every area of law
in every country of the world.
So, yeah, if you have specific situations,
let me know and I'll know.
From my network, I will know whether or not
the contact that I have is reasonably priced.
Because I also have contacts in certain countries
that are not reasonably priced.
They're like the cream of the crop,
the best that exists.
And because of that, their cost is high.
And so I'll be able to tell you,
all right, in your situation,
don't use my contact in India.
Like, use somebody else.
Like, you don't want, mine is very good,
but you're gonna spend $200 an hour more.
So I'll let you know those things.
It's really on a case-by-case basis.
So if there's somebody I can refer to you
that'll help you out, I certainly will.
Yeah.
Any other questions?
I have an-
Yeah, go ahead.
Unrelated question, not about the, I guess,
question about where this expense falls on taxes.
I do not know the answer to that.
Because I'm gonna assume I can't file it
under legal expenses because it's not proper legal advice.
So I'm guessing probably under education and training.
That's where I think most people
are putting it is education and training.
That's what I thought.
Because it's not, I get, you know,
what we're sort of talking about conceptually
is it's insurance,
but it's obviously not directly insurance.
It's not directly legal advice.
I can't, like, I couldn't bill it like I, you know,
how I mark CPA, like, you know,
for my getting my taxes done, things like that.
So, okay.
Yeah, I think what I've been hearing
most people are doing is they list it as educational,
you know, educational services and-
Like all my stuff under 100X,
all that all just gets lumped
under education and training category.
Yeah, I wish I could do that with the mastermind.
That'd be great.
Yeah.
That would be a big chunk to put under education.
Why can't, how about dues and subscriptions?
Well, it's a one-time fee.
And I don't know,
I don't know if I might just kind of make the IRS
hunt me down for a one-time fee
as high as it was to get in the mastermind.
So I don't know that I could do that or not.
But why couldn't you do that as education and training?
Yeah, why can't it?
Yeah.
Well, let's put it this way.
So I've been called by the IRS once before, right?
And the reason why they did it,
I asked them, well, why did you flag me?
Like, what did I do that was so bad?
And they said, oh, nothing's bad.
They said, but the amount that you donate
to charities is just inordinately high.
Like you're donating like 20, 30% of your salary.
And that, so you became a red flag immediately.
So I said, hold it.
So does that mean that all Christians
are getting flagged essentially
because they're donating to charities
and other stuff for the tithing?
And the woman who was incredibly kind,
she said, well, I'm not gonna say anything,
but it does tend to be more Christians.
But separate from that,
if you're giving 20, 30% of your salary away,
you get flagged.
So I guess my concern is,
I've got ATE challenges, which is the entity,
and I've got a $50,000 charge,
like a one-time fee.
Is that now gonna flag the IRS
for a one-time $50,000 fee for them to now dig in
so I gotta find literally every single receipt
and everything like that to prove everything?
It's like the benefit that I would get to me,
I'd rather just have peace
and not have to deal with all that,
but I'll look into it and see.
I mean, but I think at the end of the day,
Despina, I think you're right.
I think it technically does fall into education
because that's why I'm in there.
Well, yeah.
Or even marketing expense or education, I suppose.
It's not even really, like, it's not even a...
Yeah, it's one of the two for sure.
Yeah, I think it's educational.
Totally, because you think about the ideas
that you get and what-
Oh, yeah.
Helped you do in your business or whatever.
Like, even I thought about that as I, you know,
wrote down conference expenses,
and it's like, what do you mean you've been to California
three times in the last year for the same?
You know?
It's like, yeah, but I can show you,
here's what I'm doing.
I'm learning, I'm working towards certifications.
I'm like, I got that, like, here's why, so.
Right.
But I get what you're saying.
Yeah, it's just, as a lawyer,
I try to avoid certain entities and that's one of them.
Yeah.
Okay, so, but I'll look into it.
Thank you so much.
Bless you guys for raising that.
That's something I'll look into and see as this grows.
So I think that's kind of what I wanted to cover today
is the general outline, you know, the day,
you should know that it's going to be posted
every single month will be posted under events.
If there's any kind of change
because of anything in particular,
I'll let you know in advance.
I'm going to be in California from the, oh gosh,
I'm going to be there from the 16th to the 27th.
I'm going to be in California
because I have a ministry event that takes place
the 18th, 19th.
On the 17th, I'm doing a mastermind with Bruce.
And then the 23rd is Pedro's mastermind
and then we're in conference.
So it doesn't make sense to me to fly in
and then fly out and then fly in.
So I'm basically going to be there for 11 days.
Yeah, so.
Yeah, so if anybody has like a dog house outside
and they live in California, let me know,
you know, just bring a pillow and I'll be fine.
Okay.
Any other questions?
All right, so then that's basically it.
I mean, that's the, Crystal,
did you have another question?
It was actually about why we're here.
Like I was just confirming like what trademark
versus logo and things like that we're going to be,
but I don't know if this is the appropriate time to ask that.
You can ask now, I don't mind.
I mean, we got, if people want to drop off,
you're welcome to drop off.
It's 6.30, I can answer a few questions
if you have IP questions, go ahead.
So this past weekend, everything finally came to fruition
and we've developed a new logo, a new name,
a partnership and a framework.
Yep.
And so I just wanted to confirm which pieces of those
would be copyrighted versus trademarked.
And then I think the biggest concern I'm having right now
is that framework is what we're actually sharing
in level two as our talk.
So I'm kind of like thinking through that,
like, hmm, I'm not sure I want to go there tonight.
Yeah, so let's get some group participation here
because I want to make sure everybody's growing
at the same pace.
So Crystal mentioned a number of things.
One, she mentioned like the name, right?
So you have a name for the entity, right?
So what category does the name of the entity
fall under for protection?
Trademark.
Exactly, trademark, right?
And she also mentioned the logo
and what form of protection is available for logos?
Same, trademark.
Trademark, exactly.
And then separate from that,
is there some kind of functionality
or is it just kind of a,
is it a method that you're using
or is there like some functionality using
like either software or technology behind your company?
The framework will lead to a course
that actually teaches them how to create
and run their own challenge.
So there's technology-
So that's all methods.
That's all methods.
So it may be,
it may be that the steps that are performed
may be protectable.
What I would do is I would create a flow chart
and have the different steps laid out in the flow chart.
So it's very clear what happens first, second,
third, fourth, fifth,
like lay out every single step that's in your process flow.
And then I would bring that process flow to an attorney
and ask them, hey, is this protectable by patent?
This is what I'm doing.
But if you call up the attorney first
and say, I wanna talk to you about my process flow,
you're gonna spend another hour or so in legal fees.
So, and there's a confirmation.
Did you hear that?
My phone just went, do, do, do, do, do.
So you're gonna see that a lot as we speak.
So what you wanna do,
you wanna do your own homework
before you go see an IP attorney.
So get the, put together a flow chart.
You know what I mean by a flow chart, right?
Okay, so you have like block number one,
down arrow, block number two,
and then there might be a question.
Answer might be yes or no.
If it's yes, you go here.
No, you go there.
There might be a loop,
all that other stuff.
Create that in a flow chart or maybe multiple flow charts.
Now, the way IP attorneys work,
just to give you some background knowledge
about how IP attorneys work,
is we work at a system level,
then we get at the granular level, okay?
So your process may start out.
here, where you perform step one, then step two, then step three, or if you look at step two,
step two really involves seven steps. So you may have multiple flowcharts. So what I would do,
if you really want to blow the minds of the IP attorney that you meet with,
is number the blocks, right? So like 100, you know, 120, 140, right? And then when you look at
block number two, which is 120, create a new flowchart that has an arrow pointing to it with
120, and then start a flowchart that describes that block alone. Do you get that? I know I'm
going a little fast. I can, if you want me to slow down, let me know. But if people understand
what flowcharts are, then that's, it's kind of like, it's kind of like, let's say I'm going to
pick up my daughter at high school, right? I say, I grab the keys, I get in the car, I drive to the
school, right? Well, driving to the school, I could take that block and put that in another
flowchart. That means, you know, start the car, drive down the driveway, make a left,
and then get to the school, right? But then even get to the school can be further broken down to
another flowchart, which is, you know, make a right on Grapevine Road to get on Page Road,
go forward three miles, make a left on Logging Hill Road. Wow, I remember that. It's amazing.
Make a, and then go straight, you know, 1.5 miles, make a left at Bow High School, right? So you've
got three flowcharts, which started out with one flowchart. That's how IP attorneys work.
They're going to take anything that you say, and they're going to turn it into flowcharts. That's
the first thing they do. That whole process there will take like an hour, an hour and a half for
them to break it down. You just save yourself an hour and a half of billing right there.
Got it. So, so does the talk fit to the flowchart? Where does the talk fit? What do you mean by the
talk? So the signature talk that we're creating on Page Road's group, if it's dealing with a
framework and we don't have that trademarked or copyrighted yet, or patent. Let me ask you
something. First of all, are you asking on behalf of Page Road or is this your own thing?
No, for me, like as I was writing it out and I was, I've given part of the talk four times now,
and I'm like, I'm actually talking about our framework in this talk. Like, how do I protect
them? And so I realized that in a meeting yesterday morning, and I made a disclaimer and said,
all information that's said here is protected by rights. Because I was like, oh gosh. So,
if I'm doing a presentation, the slides that are used are protectable by, somebody tell me how you
can protect the slides. Copyright. Copyright. Copyright. Exactly. So the slides are protectable
by copyright. The images that are used, how are the images protected? Somebody tell me.
Same thing. Copyright. Copyright. Exactly. Very good. Very good. You've only been in this for one
week. You guys are awesome. I'm more proud of you than you are of yourself. I'm impressed.
That's awesome. So now, so if I'm doing this presentation, I've got slides, my slides are
protectable. The content that I'm speaking or my speech itself, the word, like the recording of it,
somebody tell me how you can protect the recording. Copyright. Copyright. Very good. Yeah.
So the recording itself, the video, the audio, that's protectable. Now, if you're saying, well,
what about the content? I want to protect the content. That's a problem. Now it gets really
mushy and now you're really talking legal advice. Because now, you want to talk to an attorney and
say, these are the specific things that I'm saying. I need to know which aspect of this is
protectable. So now they're going to dig in and they're going to say, well, let me listen to what
you're talking about. All right. Now, I want you to take the subject matter that you're talking
about, turn it into a flow chart. That's what they're going to tell you. I'm telling you,
this is what they do. They love flow charts. Turn that subject matter into a flow chart. And then
give me that flow chart and I'll look at it. And so what I would say is you've got copyright for
your recordings, copyright for your slides, copyright. One of the things that we do is we
create books sometimes out of the content that we discuss. I can actually take the five-day
challenge that I did and I can turn it into a book like that. I can literally just transcribe
the whole thing, tweak it here and there, sell the book for X amount of money. And that's
something that people buy because they want to be able to look at it, highlight it and grab what
they want. Right. That's why I don't. Another reason why I don't do transcriptions is because
all that is protectable by copyright. You know.
by the entity that I own.
So for you, I would say put the copyright notices on your slides.
If you have slides, put the copyright notice on any materials that you hand out.
It should mention, you know, the copyright symbol, you know, the date.
It should also mention if it's in your name or if it's your entity's name.
You have to figure that out.
Do you want it to be, you know, owned by you as an individual or your entity?
Either one of those.
So figure that out and then put your copyright notices on all these things.
And then separate from that, create your flowcharts about your process
and then go speak to an IP attorney.
And obviously, I mean, happy to, you know, help you out or whatever, but that's legal advice.
That needs to be analyzed.
But just knowing that they're going to break down whatever you're doing into a flowchart.
If you did that beforehand, you save yourself an hour to an hour and a half.
So you just saved yourself 900 bucks and we haven't even started the protection portal yet.
So there you go.
Peter, a couple of questions about that.
Yeah.
Like, is this where you're talking about for like filing a patent though?
Like once it's been made public, the clock starts ticking.
Great point.
So at this point, she's already spoken publicly about her process.
So to go talk about it, to file a patent now, she's got 12 months.
Like the clock, the clock is now ticking on that.
Yeah, it depends.
So this is the way it would break down is the best way to do all this stuff is before you,
obviously, before you start going to trade shows, before you start doing presentations,
do the analysis, figure out if there's anything that's protectable, right?
If there is something that's protectable, you want to get at least a provisional file before you do any of the discussions.
If you do the discussions, like you said, see, there are three statutory bars.
You remember the three of them?
So there's the on sale bar, the publication bar, and the public use bar, right?
So there would not be an offer for sale unless you're offering unless Crystal's offering her services for sale.
There is no offer for sale.
So then the question is, is it a publication?
So that means is the material being provided and readily available to the public?
That depends on the circumstances, what the person's doing.
An analysis has to be done, you know, specifically to see what they're doing.
Like, are they giving handouts with their process on there or it's readily available by the public?
And then the last one is public use.
Is there because of the teaching that Crystal is doing, is it going to result in the public now performing the function that she's talking about?
Because she essentially could have enabled people to stop her from filing a patent because now there's a third party that's performing what she wants to actually own.
Does that make sense?
That was a little tricky, so I'll go through that one more time.
So if if I talk about a process.
Right, so I talk about, let's say.
A way to store money in a bank, right, let's say that was protectable.
So I receive money for my job.
I go and I cast that check.
I invested in a certain way.
And then I go and I, let's say,
invest it in a specific bank.
Let's say that's the process. Right.
So now.
If I go and I do a discussion and I say these are the steps that you're going to take, right, you're going to receive your check, you're going to cash your check, you're going to make this kind of investment, you're going to take that money and then you're going to invest it in the bank.
I just told everybody the process.
So now if the third party, the people I just trained are actually doing it,
that means a third party is performing the process for its intended purpose.
Right, because I just trained them in how to do it.
So if I'm trying to protect the very thing that I just trained you how to do, I started the clock.
That's the problem.
All right, so what Jennifer just said is exactly accurate, so it all comes down to
somebody has to do an analysis of exactly what you are going to say.
If what you're going to be talking about is so such a high level, then it's not as big of a deal as if you're going into intricate detail
and talking about your process and giving them handouts and teaching them how to do it themselves.
Now you run a higher risk of violating the statutory bar and the clock starting.
Now, that's just in the United States.
Remember, in foreign countries, gone.
It's a whole other world.
And, you know, as we start having some portal, you know, as we start going into the protection portal, I'll start explaining to you how to
how to decrease the chances of you violating statutory bar in any foreign country through certain things.
But I'm not going to say.
started here because it's going to confuse you. I have to set the basis for you to have
the understanding. I can't talk to you about installing the stained glass when you don't
even have a building yet. You have to go step by step. Miguel, I've seen your hand up for
a while. What's up, my brother? You have to unmute.
Hey, thank you for reminding me. I have my daughter here. She might step in to say hi.
Can you hear me well there?
Yeah, we can hear you great.
There you go. Awesome. Hi, Sofia. Say hi. She's going to say hi anyway. Might as well
just announce it.
Can I have my phone?
No, you cannot have my phone. Here's my question real quick, Peter. I hired an IP attorney
a while ago and did a search on one of my trademarks. It came out clear. Then I went
and made that a challenge name. Hey, sweetie, can you please wait?
It's okay. You're fine. We can hear you. We can't hear her as much. Go ahead.
Oh, cool. It's the headphones maybe. I made that a challenge name. Then I've been socializing
it with friends, family, et cetera, et cetera. I plan to run that challenge. What I want
to do is trademark a challenge name. My question specifically is I already did a knockout search
on that. I know I'm good with a real IP attorney. I paid money for that. I want to file it on
my own with what I learned from you. My question is, is it a 1A or a 1B if I haven't run the
challenge but I've already created a landing page, people are signing up, et cetera, et
cetera. Can I file a 1A on that? It depends upon what you're actually using
the trademark, what the trademark is being filed for. Is the trademark being filed for,
as an example, coaching and running of challenges and things like that?
41. I think that's 41. You're filing it for coaching and running
of challenges, basically, that kind of thing. Have you started coaching or running challenges
yet using the trademark? I plan to run a challenge in a short run in
the coming weeks. I will do that, but I've had people sign up already for the challenge.
Does that make sense? Right. The question always becomes, what's
within the recitation of goods and services? Have you started doing that yet? Whatever
is written in there, you have to ask yourself, have I done that yet? If you've done that,
then that's an actual use application. If you have not done that, that's an intent to
use application. Gotcha. Makes sense.
I'll give you a theoretical situation that's not yours, so it's not legal advice. If I
start selling tickets to a challenge but I haven't run a challenge yet, to me, that's
an intent to use. If I'm going to run a challenge in two weeks, why in the world would I file
an intent to use to then have to change it to an actual use and spend extra money? Why
not just wait two weeks and file, put my TM on every time on the website?
That's what I would do. I'm not for wasting. What was that?
No, it makes sense. You're not for wasting. Exactly. Converting and all that. I plan to
use ads and all that and announce it. I was just like, but again, I'm putting people on
notice and now I'm going to put the TM on it. Somebody in here, tell me if what he said is
right. Putting a TM on a trademark or a logo as you're using it, but you haven't filed a
federal registration yet. Is that the right thing to do?
Yes. Yes, exactly. That's it.
All right. Well, I'm going to close here unless somebody has something really pressing
because this really, I want it to be an intro to the protection portal so you know how to get in.
I love your question earlier about Crystal, about those services. Like I said, sometimes I refer
people to those things, simple stuff. The question is, is it simple enough so that something that
other people, I mean, think about it this way. Thousands of people are using that same form.
Can I use that same for myself? That's what you want to break down is, does my situation warrant
a form or does it need truly legal analysis and modification?
Yeah. All right. Wednesday time. Yes, you got it. 12 to 1.30. That's right.
Peter?
Yes. Hey, Jodi.
I just want to say, hey.
This was so timely, like we literally just did our challenge offer today on a six-part framework we've never released before.
So I'm like, oh snap, we got some stuff to do really fast to start protecting it.
So I will have a list of questions that we'll send you.
Yeah, well, I will tell you this. I mean, in general, if you're just coming out with a way of doing something, a lot of the, like a procedure for doing something, a lot of those are not protectable by patent, a lot of them.
It's less common to have a situation where a general process of performing something is protectable.
It's when you're starting to, there's like something very unique that nobody else has done.
And typically, if you can associate software with it or some kind of process that's very unique, then you start to become potentially able to protect it.
But in general, like the process of my running a challenge, not protectable at all.
Like my slides, totally protectable. Logo, totally protectable. My videos, audio, all protectable.
The process of putting together a challenge focused on helping you understand how aspects of ideas are protectable by patent, trademark, copyright, and trade secret, none of that is protectable by patent.
So, like a six part framework of how to increase your leadership.
That is not necessarily something protectable, just the slides would be.
What I would do is the same thing I said for Crystal, come up with a flow chart that breaks down the steps.
And then what you do is you take those steps to an IP attorney and you say, hey, these are my steps.
Is this protectable by patent? If they don't have an answer to you within 15 minutes, they're wasting your time.
Because you've done almost all the work already.
At that point, this is why I'm teaching you the inside secrets to dealing with IP attorneys.
That flow chart, what they're going to want to do is kind of break out the flow chart now.
They're going to ask you questions about each block.
That makes sense. So, if it goes 15 minutes to a half hour, that's fine.
I take back 15 minutes. Half hour, I'm okay up to that.
But if you're like an hour or two into this and they're still asking you basic questions, something's wrong.
Because you already did the heavy work. The heavy work is really breaking it into the flow charts.
Now it's visual. Now they can ask you questions about each step.
And say, okay, in step number two here, how do you do this?
Oh, well, we created a software app that allows communication between the participant of the challenge and this framework.
Oh, software? Hold it. Let's talk a little bit now.
What's done by the software?
And so, as you start to break it down, there may be something protectable.
But typically, if it's just a general process of running a challenge, those kind of things do not tend to be protectable.
They may be. That's why I'm saying do the flow chart.
But then if you've got like a unique framework, a unique way of doing something, put it in the flow chart.
Sit down with the IP attorney. Let them do the analysis.
Because that analysis is so important to understand all aspects of the method.
And there may be something protectable in the method. You just need to do the analysis.
That's really what they're going to end up doing.
So if you can do that step for them, you're going to save a lot of time and money.
Okay? Awesome.
Peter, I have a quick question about what Crystal was asking about in level two.
Because, you know, people are, I see stuff, of course, in 100x all the time.
People just spitting out their ideas, posting stuff.
I see artwork and I'm like, even before I took the challenge, I'm like, stop. Don't.
But now that in level two, like with these speeches and stuff, that also becomes a concern then, right?
Because what you said in the challenge, you said wasn't even clear how to answer of like, well, now who owns this recording of this?
Like, technically, Facebook would own it because it's part of either it's been streamed onto the Facebook.
Right.
Pedro owns it. So it's kind of like forever.
I know people are just practicing with stuff, but it raises some concerns if they haven't.
I mean, Crystal's thinking through how to do this, but so many people are just like, I'm just going to give you my practice speech and here, tell you all the things that I do and the names and the, and I'm like.
Yeah. Now you understand a portion of why I'm doing this.
See, if you, if you, you have to balance everything, Jennifer. Okay.
So 100x is a tremendous resource.
It's just an incredible resource.
And it provides a forum to receive feedback
from other individuals, which is very unique.
The majority, if not should majority is Christian, right?
Individuals who love the Lord.
So God permitting, they won't take the stuff,
steal the stuff, do any of that stuff, right?
That's the hope, right?
So, but you have to do a balance.
You have to say, okay, what is the value that I gain
in talking about this and getting feedback
from other individuals so as to refine it
versus the potential of somebody stealing it,
somebody doing something in a derogatory manner with it,
thinking to themselves, oh my gosh,
that's the best trademark I ever heard of.
I'm gonna go buy the domain name right now,
which has happened.
I mean, we've seen that happen in the environment before.
Somebody mentions a name, boom, it's gone.
You know, Pedro actually spent money for domain names
when other people bought the ones he's talking about.
I mean, how do you do that to your mentor?
I don't even understand how that's possible.
Like, like honor equals favor.
Dishonor, not so good, not so good.
So I don't understand what they were even thinking,
but he ended up spending a chunk of change,
you know, to obtain the domain name from this person.
I mean, and I'm thinking, are you kidding me?
Kick him out 100X or whatever it was, like kick him out.
Like, how could he even think of that?
But anyways, I think what you need to do,
everybody here needs to kind of balance everything.
Everything is a balance, right?
Are you, the big question is,
are you going to violate one of the stat story bars
by talking about something at a top level?
No, I don't see.
I mean, unless you're digging into detail
in your discussion, it's going to be kind of hard.
You're not going to be making an offer for sale.
It's not a publication that's readily available.
So then the question is, is there public use on it?
Is the third party using it for its intended purpose?
Are you enabling somebody to do what you're saying?
That's the area I would be concerned.
I would say, am I describing my process enough
so other people can perform my process
so that now there's a third party performing
what I actually want to own?
If that is the case,
then the way you talk about it should be very top level.
Don't go into details on what's within that flow chart.
Just talk about it at a high level.
There's no reason for you to have to go
into that much detail anyway.
Nobody there is buying it tomorrow.
You're just kind of talking about it.
So this is why whenever somebody is going to a trade show
and we start in three minutes,
so we got to jump off, right?
Seven o'clock, I think we get started.
So this is why when somebody is going to a trade show,
I always say, follow provisional or something before you go
because then you can say anything you want.
You can make any offer for sale.
You can do whatever you want.
Nobody cares.
But I can tell you, I've been in presentations at Dartmouth,
MIT, and other places where I've been explaining
these concepts and people have gotten up out of their chairs
and left the room immediately to stop people
from making their thesis publicly available
in the library, right?
So let's say you do talk about your invention in detail.
Well, that video is now readily available to the public
because it's stored on Facebook.
So what does all this mean?
It just means talk about things at a top level.
Don't talk about the bicycle
as having at least two wheels
rotatively connected to a center mass
with a chain that's connected to two pedals
with a braking system that's connected to a steering wheel,
which is connected to a front wheel.
Don't say that.
Just say, I'd like to talk to you all about a device
that you can sit on and get from a point A to point B
by using your legs.
That's it.
Because you're not going to be able to own that.
I mean, that general concept, right?
Fred Flintstone was doing that in a cartoon
way back in the day, right?
He was using his legs on those big, you know,
rotative things, yabba-dabba-doo.
And so, you know, that's all you disclose,
yabba-dabba-doo, that's it.
So I wouldn't worry too much about that,
but don't go into that intricate detail in the discussion.
Talk about, you know, I've got a great new cookie has,
or I've got a great new sandwich cookie thing.
It's really awesome.
There's sweetness on the inside
and two things on the outside that are kind of like wafers,
but don't say the inside is sweet.
The top is chocolate.
The bottom's chocolate.
It has this.
Don't do that.
Top level, keep it top level.
You all here have a headstart over everyone,
because now you know how to discuss your ideas,
how to discuss, you know,
we're going to be walking into, you know, the God idea challenge within a week.
You'll be able to talk about things at a top level because you know how to do it.
Other people don't. And that's, that's the concern. How can we,
how can we teach them, train them, help them so that they're not saying, Hey,
I just came out with a brand new trademark. It's called Trishita,
you know, and people are like, Oh my gosh, that's awesome. Let me go buy it.
It's like, don't do that. Like get that TM on there,
do something before you go and disclose it. Um,
my intent is not to make you paranoid.
My intent is to make you informed so you know what to do.
There's a difference between the two. Okay.
All right. My friend, that is seven o'clock. It's seven o'clock. All right.
And with that,
we're going to close because I want to get over there and, uh, you do as well.
Hopefully this blesses you. Hopefully you understand things better now.
Does that help? Yeah. Okay. Don't, I wouldn't be paranoid. Just,
just talk at a top level. Just bring it up a level.
Just, just think about from what I'm saying.
Can somebody practice my invention? If the answer is yes, don't say it.
Talk about at a high level so they can't practice it. Just talk about always top.
Okay. You're going to learn more as we go in the portal.
You're going to get this more because we'll be hitting this over and over
everyone. Take care. All right. You're so welcome. Bless you.
Thanks.
See you Wednesday.