Welcome to that project your idea challenge and we're going to hear from Rick and his
testimony with IP law and why he's in the challenge.
Well, my testimony or my sad sob story.
So the reason I'm here is so that hopefully I won't repeat what happened to me in a previous
season of life.
But I'm launching a spoken word audio project, meditation albums, and soaking music kind
of a thing.
And even though I'm not thrilled with the name, it's the name I got, and I need to get
things trademarked and copyrighted since it's audio, and probably the little pea circle
since it's actually recorded.
But you know, the thing that really, whenever Peter tells the story about trademarks, I
deal with a little bit of sadness because years ago, I lost my business basically, because
I didn't protect my assets.
And I never sent in the right forms to the right people and then, you know, I just didn't
take care of business.
And then actually, I probably can't say what I was about to say, because of something I
had to sign that I didn't want to sign.
And let's just say it caused a lot of heartbreak, the loss of my house, my business, my heart
was broken, my mind was broken, you had to call the daughter and say, honey, you got
to come home from that fancy college and those sorts of things.
So it left a deep, deep scar for a long, long time.
It's only been in the last couple of years that I feel like I'm free, you know, just,
but there's still, it's still, you know, it still hurts when you pull the bandaid off.
So I don't want that to happen again.
So that's why I'm here learning what I can learn.
Thank you, Rick.
You have an amazing heart.
I know you personally, those are sad stories.
It's a story of redemption, and that God is rebuilding your life, and that you're, you
still got a lot left in you.
It's so, you got so much talent, so much to offer the world.
I've been blessed by what you've offered.
And so thank you for sharing that.
I appreciate your kind words.
Yeah, I feel like the Lord has told me the promise of restoration that I've clung to
throughout all this time is at hand.
And I don't know if I shared in this group or not, but I will real quickly.
Last night, or yesterday, all day yesterday, I was on a TV set for NBCUniversal, because
they're producing a sitcom here in Memphis called Young Rock.
And I actually had a small part in it.
Now whether or not it makes it to the episode that we see on TV, I don't know, because,
you know, that's kind of the way that world works.
It's a 22-minute show, so it would be God's favor if I actually, my scene was included.
So I'm excited about that.
So yeah, it feels like, you know, that's something I never saw it.
So that's, anyway, although there are easier ways to make money, I'm here to say.
Hey guys, how's everybody doing?
Oh, Peter, are you here?
Oh yeah, I'm here.
I've been listening in.
I've been listening in on some of these, some of the things that were talked about.
You know, this is what Rick's sharing with others or sharing is just, it's really important
because, you know, people have gone through different experiences here.
Like there's a lot of individuals who have created one company and had issues.
Other people who are thinking of building a company and haven't really, aren't really
sure if they're going to do that.
I mean, myself, I mean, I've been with a law firm for, say I started my career 25 years
ago.
The law firm I'm with right now, I've been with for 17 years and I'm leaving them to
build my own firm.
So there's a lot of people that are kind of like in transition right now, which is very
interesting.
And so it's really good to hear what other people have experienced because you apply
those things into your own life and then hopefully you learn from them and you grow from them
and you become more successful and that just benefits everyone.
So I like to hear the testimonies and what people have gone through.
Quite frankly, because, you know, the scars that we have become pathways for others.
So they don't end up getting hurt following those pathways, right?
That's just quote unquote, Peter Nieves, right?
There you go.
All right.
So, and that's our session for today.
So it's been great seeing you all.
No, I'm just kidding.
So welcome to day five, like you guys have made it to day five.
I'm excited for you.
I mean, hopefully you're excited for yourself.
You guys have learned a lot.
Like I'm pretty sure some of you are trying to figure out, well, I don't remember this
thing on this or that thing on that.
That's okay.
Just so you know, tonight I'm going to be sending out a communication to all of you
with a lot of replays.
So you're going to have, you're going to have one email coming to you.
If you're in VIP.
you're gonna have one email with all the challenge videos
and all the VIP videos.
And then if you're in the challenge alone,
you're gonna get an email that has all the challenge videos.
So you're not gonna have to figure out which is where,
I just like to have at the end,
I like to have one that's nice and clean.
I did some editing on the one last night.
And so finish that,
it's already been rendered from my laptop over here,
uploading that so you guys will have that momentarily
as well.
And so you're gonna have one thing
with everything in it.
Now, let me see who is here.
I see Victoria here too.
Okay, cool.
We've got Sam in the house.
Is Sam here really?
Yeah.
Come on, Sam, how are you?
Sam's awesome.
I am doing great, thanks.
It's always a pleasure to be here and learn
and can never get enough.
Oh, that's great.
And it's all the information is life changing,
business changing.
Yes.
Thanks for inviting me.
Maybe you could take like one minute
and kind of talk about what your experience has been.
Cause I know you were in the challenge before
and then you jumped on board with us,
went into this deeper with the Protection Portal.
And so maybe you could just take a minute
and just kind of explain to people
what your experience has been,
especially as a person who is busy
cause you in and of yourself,
you're a busy individual as I know.
Yeah.
Maybe you could explain a little.
Well, as you know,
I have a bit of a technology background
and we're always talking about intellectual property
or have been part of several startups,
usually on the technology side
and been part of some patent processes
and always heard the terms thrown around
in different business deals.
And it wasn't until I needed to start my own venture
that I really didn't really realize
what I didn't know I didn't know.
And it's only going through the challenge
that I started differentiating
these different types of intellectual properties
and ways that I could actually protect the ideas.
And I had a ton of ideas
and I've made a lot of money for a lot of people,
other people.
I've created things that I didn't know I realized
I gave away.
And when I was getting ready to start this new venture,
just like you, I'm in transition right now.
I'm doing a lot of one-on-one coaching
and going to group-based coaching.
And they're just a whole new concepts
that I think can actually revolutionize
the way business is done in my field,
in health and wellness,
that I need to make sure it's protected.
And you're giving me the tools that I need
to have the language, first of all,
to say, to understand the right things
and to say the right things
that I'll be able to communicate
with an attorney intelligently
and basically save a lot of legwork
and money at the same time,
but actually know the right questions to ask as well.
Because I didn't even know through the group itself,
you don't even know questions you're supposed to ask.
And then through other people's experiences,
you get to hear things that you didn't know
you needed to ask.
And so it's much more than just things
that you think you don't know,
it's things that you don't know you don't know yet.
That's so powerful.
Well, you just said there right there, Sam,
not playing games at all.
That's so important in that,
as other people are asking these questions,
you're realizing, oh my gosh,
I didn't even know I had to ask that question.
Like you didn't even realize that was an issue.
Now somebody else is more advanced
and they're running into something,
they're raising the question, they're getting the answer.
So now you don't even run into the issue at all.
Exactly, exactly.
And so you just prevent all the potential problems.
You save money, you save time, you save heartache
and you get people to, like you say,
the whole point of this is that you get people
to know your brand,
you spend money on your marketing and everything
and they know how to find you and not somebody else.
And you avoid a whole bunch of litigation at the same time.
Absolutely.
Yeah, thanks for sharing that, Samuel.
I really appreciate that.
And that's invaluable.
And so what we're doing here,
today we're gonna cover patents.
I'm gonna touch a little bit
on a little trademark copyright,
but we're gonna go deep into patents.
I wanna cover that.
I wanna make sure everybody remembers
that on Monday, I'm throwing in a bonus for you at no cost.
We're gonna do trademark searching live
with you interacting online, on Zoom.
I'm gonna share my screen
so you can see how to search logos, okay?
Because logos are not the same
as word searches for trademarks.
They're very different.
So you have to understand the secret to be able to do it.
So I'm gonna show you the secret sauce on Monday, okay?
But before we get to that,
let me just take one minute here
because I know a few of you have not,
were not here yesterday.
And a few of you were actually pinging me,
asking me questions about what exactly is this offer?
People didn't even know there was an offer.
Let me take one minute to kind of explain it.
See if anybody has a question
and we're gonna jump into patents.
right away, okay?
Is that all right with you guys?
You guys okay with that?
All right, cool.
All right, so let me just jump in right here.
I'll share my screen real fast
so everybody can see this.
Share screen, boom,
and do a presentation.
Okay, so what we are providing for you,
I put this together because there's a good number of you,
like actually the majority of you
that are actually applying certain principles
within your businesses already,
and you need to understand what's protectable,
what's not protectable,
where am I potentially liable,
where am I not potentially liable,
where should I invest money now,
or maybe in six months, or maybe in a year?
If I wait a year,
am I gonna lose my rights in this thing or not?
So I created this Foundations in IP package for you.
All right, the reason why I created this is,
quite frankly, now I have my own law firm,
so I can actually do this for you
where I couldn't do this before.
So that's why you see down here,
and you have this IP without the TM on it intentionally.
So nobody pings me again and says, where's your TM?
So this is the Foundations in IP package.
This is what I'm gonna provide for you,
and this offer is open until tomorrow midnight.
At tomorrow midnight, it closes, okay?
So the first thing that I'm gonna provide for you
is a brief IP audit, right?
It's up to three hours.
So it could be two hours, three hours,
it could be an hour, whatever it is,
but the result is going to be a strategic plan,
a brief strategic plan that outlines
what you should do first, second, third, fourth,
where I think you potentially have things
that are protectable,
and where you may in fact already have certain legal rights.
It's gonna be a nice kind of short package for you,
but you're gonna have one-on-one time.
This is not a group session.
This is one-on-one, you and myself,
or you and your business partner and myself.
Some of you asked me that question.
Some of you emailed me that question and said,
well, I have a business partner.
Can they be on the one-on-one call?
Yes, we'll have a one-on-two call.
It's okay, no problem.
And both of you can ask questions.
That's fine.
You can both hit me with questions.
I don't mind.
I do it in front of classes of hundreds,
so I'm not worried about it.
So that's gonna be the IP audit, all right?
Separate from that, a lot of you have companies
or have products or services,
and you're not sure if that name that you're using
is protectable or not.
I'm gonna do a trademark search for you, all right?
So I myself, I'm gonna do a trademark search for you, okay?
Separate from that,
I'm gonna do a trademark application for you,
which is fantastic because now you don't have to figure out
is this recitation of goods and services right?
Is the specimen proper?
I'm gonna tell you.
I'm gonna look at it and I'm gonna say, yes, this works.
No, it doesn't work.
This is what we need.
No, we don't need that.
We might just decide to file an intent to use application.
So we'll see what's most important for you.
And it's gonna be based on your specific situation.
Now, if you act within by Saturday night at midnight,
tomorrow, and that's,
it just occurred to me,
there's a lot of people from California here.
So we'll say Saturday at midnight in California, okay?
Which is like 3 a.m. my time.
Cause I'm not gonna stop the clock at 12 midnight anyway,
I'll be asleep.
So if you purchase it before I wake up,
basically on Sunday, then I'm throwing this in.
This is a protection portal.
I created this about a year ago.
It is doing amazing.
A lot of the people who you've heard come
to give testimonies are in the protection portal.
What we do in the protection portal is we go live
once a month for an hour and a half,
answer anybody's questions without legal advice.
And here's the beauty.
If you do this IP audit, you get legal advice.
That's the beauty of it.
So the protection portal,
I go live for an hour and a half, once a month,
you become a member for an entire year.
You get to email questions that are review,
which I go over live with others, okay?
Separate from that, I'm going fast through this
cause I did this yesterday.
So I don't wanna take up a lot of time here.
You get access to my IP associates throughout the world.
If you're doing IP work in other countries,
I can introduce you to them.
Separate from that, you get to email the questions,
which we talked about.
And then finally, you get this affiliate program
where 20%, if you refer somebody in,
you get 20% of any income that comes in,
any profits that come in off of them.
So.
somebody purchases for 95 and then 195 for a VIP that's 290.
And if they take the offer, you know,
of the protection portal of loan,
which is something I used to offer,
your total commission would be like,
or your total commission would be like $560
just for one person.
So it adds up really fast.
So that is the offer that is on the table right now.
It's open until tomorrow night.
I know a number of you have jumped in already
and you're gonna get a welcome email.
You're gonna have the separate private group.
Everybody's getting ready to welcome you in.
We're gonna have a special session for you and for them
where you can introduce yourself,
say who you are, what you do,
let other people know about you
so that they can try to get you business
and help you out any way that they can.
So we're gonna have a special session for you,
but that's what's on the plate right now.
Okay.
Again, it's only open until tomorrow midnight in California
because I know some of you are in California.
So, all right, with that,
I wanna jump into patent law
because this is an interesting area
and I wanna make sure you guys
at least get a solid basis here
because a lot of people,
they mess up patents.
They believe they understand what patents are,
but they really don't.
So let me walk you through a few things here in patent law.
All right.
First of all, a patent is a grant by a government.
It could be the United States,
could be a foreign country,
it could be anywhere.
It's a grant by a government allowing you to stop others
from making, using, selling, or importing that technology.
All right.
So it could be covering a method, a system, an apparatus,
could be a number of different things.
I'll talk about what's protectable by patents.
Okay.
Oh, Poppy says she had a patent problem before.
Patent problem before, patent problem.
Yeah, that can be tough to say over and over.
So if you have a patent,
this is what I want you to understand.
This is so important, okay?
A patent does not allow you to make anything.
Some of you right now are saying, I don't understand.
I thought the whole point of getting a patent
was so I could make something.
That's not what a patent's for.
A patent allows you to stop others,
not to make, use, sell, or import.
It allows you to stop others
from making, using, selling, or import.
It's a temporary monopoly on a technology.
You can own rights to systems, to methods, to,
wow, if you can asexually reproduce a plant,
you can, think of Monsanto.
They have a ton of patents,
tons of patents
on their genetically modified food products, okay?
They own a ton of patents in that area.
Yeah, I know, I'd be shaking my head too, I know.
I'm not much for it.
But the whole point being that
you can own patents even on designs.
Does anybody remember the old Coca-Cola bottle?
Remember that?
It was kind of like that and like that, right?
Something like that, right?
That shape in and of itself,
you could protect that shape, that design
with what's called a, yes, hourglass bottle.
It's called a design patent.
So if you have like my cell phone over here,
I don't know if you guys are familiar with this,
but there was a major lawsuit
that took place between Samsung and Apple.
Huge lawsuit, huge, right?
And it was about an iPhone,
but Samsung had a phone that looked very similar
to the iPhone and they both got into a lawsuit.
One of the patents that was involved was a design patent
because they looked almost exactly the same.
Why do you think it is that the iPhone
and the Samsung don't have the exact same shape?
Because there's design patents involved.
So you have to be careful.
You have to make sure when you're looking,
likelihood of confusion falls into the area of trademarks.
So that's a little different from patent stuff,
but that's all right.
That's okay, that's okay.
Oh, Ray, we have, is Ray there?
Ray, are you still there?
We have the wheel ready?
All right, I want to do something in five minutes.
I want to give away a gift, okay?
Cause we have two more prizes we need to give away.
And then we have the big one.
All right, okay.
So let me talk to you about-
Sorry, I ended my camera, not my mic.
Yes, we are ready.
Okay, okay.
All right, let me ask all of you a question here, all right?
If you had the ability to own a patent
on either a stool, which has a base and three legs,
or a chair, which has a base, four legs, and a back,
you could own-
One of those two things.
Based on what I've told you thus far,
you can have the patent on one of those two things.
Just by a, you know what we're gonna do?
Number one is a stool, number two is a chair.
So everybody put in the chat,
if you want number one or number two,
the patent on number one or number two.
Let me just let all of you type it in there.
So we got ones, we've got twos,
ones, twos, two ones, one, two, one, two,
one, two, one, two, find a place to be.
All right, here we go.
So here's, sorry.
All right, so here's the proper answer to this, guys.
The proper answer would actually be number one.
Let me explain to you why, okay?
And you would think, look, Samuel's like, yes.
But here's the thing.
You would think that you want the patent
on the chair, right?
Somebody who voted for the chair,
if you're okay with it,
because we're all family anyway,
can you unmute yourself and tell me why you chose a chair?
Because I would have chose the chair myself, quite frankly.
So-
There are more chairs in circulation than stools.
More chairs?
Sure, sure.
There's more parts, aren't there?
I mean, that's what I was-
More parts?
Sure, more parts.
Because you can make a chair from a stool.
Oh, Ria, come on, Ria.
Right there.
Okay, now check this out.
The reason that Ria just gave
is actually the reason why you actually want
to own the patent on the stool, not the chair.
So let me show you why.
Check this out.
If you make a stool, you have a base and three legs, right?
The patent allows you to stop others
from making, using, selling, or importing that technology.
That means if anybody makes a stool, what happens?
They infringe.
So they need to pay you a royalty.
They need to pay your licensing fee.
They need to pay you for making the stool.
But like Ria said, if you make a chair,
the chair has a base and it has four legs, right?
If it has four legs, that means it has at least three legs.
Do you see that?
So check this out.
When you file a patent,
try to get the broadest claim coverage possible.
Don't file a patent with claims that are so narrow
that they only cover what you have.
Try to make it a little broader.
The reason why is because the claims
of the patent dictate what you own.
They're at the end of the patent.
At the end of the patent, there's a section.
It'll say claims, and then it'll say I claim or we claim.
And then there'll be a number.
And it'll say something like, if it's a bicycle,
it'll say a riding device comprising at least two wheels
rotatably connected to a center mass,
the front wheel directly mounted to a steering mechanism,
a braking system coupled to at least the second wheel
so as to decrease speed of the riding device.
I mean, it lays out each of the elements, right?
So to infringe the patent,
you have to have every single element that's in the claim.
So when you look at the claim at the end of the patent,
you just look to see, do I have every single thing here?
Yes or no?
It's like a checklist.
Do I have one of those?
Yes.
Do I have one of those?
No.
Oh, the answer is no, you don't infringe.
That's how you determine if there's patent infringement.
Okay?
Well, if you write your claims so incredibly narrow
that instead of it saying that in your claims,
it says there's at least 24 spokes
and the spokes are made of aluminum alloy
and they're exactly 18 inches long
and they have a coating on them
and the coating is made of an aluminum
so as to stop rusting.
If somebody doesn't have only one of those things,
they don't infringe your patent.
So stop filing patents with remarkably narrow claims.
Within the first week of one person
who joined the protection portal,
she came live and she brought her own situation,
her life situation, which you're allowed to do
when you're in the package,
you're allowed to bring in your own personal situations.
Like I said, I don't give legal advice,
but I most certainly do.
Everybody's well hydrated in this challenge.
I most certainly do give guidance on what the law says.
Okay?
So she had her claims and she said,
can you take a look at it?
Her claim was like a page and a half long,
which means if only one line, forget one line,
if one word was missing in what you did
compared to what she had,
that means you don't infringe
and you can continue doing that.
So going back to the example
of what we were just talking about,
the stool versus the chair.
Chair has a base, four legs and a back,
which means it has at least a base and three legs,
which means if you make the chair,
you infringe the patent on the stool.
So by having the patent on the stool,
you get royalties from people who make stools,
people who make chairs, people who make love seats,
people who make sofas,
all of those things infringe your patent on a stool.
Do you see that?
That's how powerful your patent could be.
So try to get claim coverage that's broader,
not more narrow, okay?
Somebody asked about a unicycle.
So your best bet is actually to patent the unicycle.
Yeah, if you can get a patent on the unicycle,
you'd be in pretty good shape, absolutely.
All right, so let me walk you through
a few different things.
Why do people get patents?
And how do you know when you should file a patent?
If you've got a technology or a method
that is protectable by patent,
and when you sell it to the public,
they're going to be able to reverse engineer it,
meaning that they can make it themselves.
If they can make it themselves
after you make it publicly known or you offer it for sale,
that's where patents come in.
Yes, there is a thing called a patent troll,
and I destroy them all the time.
I'll explain that in, give me about five minutes.
I'll explain what a patent troll is.
Somebody just typed in the chat,
is there such a thing as a patent troll?
Yeah, so I'll explain it to you guys.
So, if in fact you can reverse engineer your invention,
file a patent, that's where patents come in, okay?
If you cannot reverse engineer it,
meaning it's on the backend.
So let's say you have a software program.
Nobody actually can see the code of the program.
They're only utilizing a portion of the program.
So you want to keep it to yourself.
You may be able to maintain that as a trade secret
instead of filing a patent.
Why would you want to file a trade secret,
or why would you want to maintain a trade secret
instead of filing a patent?
Trade secrets last forever.
Patents last for 20 years from filing, okay?
20 years from filing.
So if a patent lasts for 20 years from filing,
and you have a technology that could potentially last
50, 60, 70 years, like the Coca-Cola formula.
What to concoct.
Wow.
All right, somebody's unmuted.
Can you guys find out who's unmuted?
Thank you.
Okay, so, only live, only live.
My son is dying.
That's going to be in the gag reel.
Whoever that was, that's going to be in the gag reel.
I am making a gag reel off of that.
That was perfect.
I love it.
That had to be Teresa
because she is giggling like crazy right now.
You're awesome, Teresa.
Don't worry.
That was not me.
That was not me, but that was hilarious.
That was hilarious, right?
That was hilarious.
Okay, so if it's reverse engineerable,
you can patent it.
But here's the thing I want you to understand, all right?
Listen to this, guys.
When you file a patent,
it's going to take you a good three years
to get out of a patent office, okay?
So if your technology is going to be obsolete in four years,
don't waste the money on a patent, please.
The only person who's going to benefit is the lawyer, okay?
Don't waste the money on a patent.
If your technology is obsolete in three years, four years,
maybe even five years, you know?
I mean, if you're hitting that five-year mark
and you think you can make a lot of money
in that one year to a year and a half, okay, fine.
But realize you're going to have to at least make double
what you invested in filing a patent in the first place.
And patents are the most expensive area of protection
in intellectual property law.
It can cost you 9,000 to $15,000 to file a patent,
depending on the complexity of the technology.
I've written patents on quantum cryptography.
I have clients that I've been blessed with,
like MIT that writes some of the most difficult patents
in the world.
And then I write some of the most simple patents.
One of the most profitable patents I ever wrote
was on a switch.
And the switch did had, all it had was,
it just had an end cap on one side, an end cap on the other,
and in the middle, two metallic balls, right?
And so when the switch moved,
conductivity was maintained between the first end cap
and the second end cap through the metallic balls.
But if the object got shaken up at all,
then the switch would be thrown
because the metallic balls were no longer
maintaining conductivity.
That one switch, that switch alone,
they probably made 20.
million dollars on and you know how much it costs to
manufacture, I think 27 cents.
I mean, these guys sold volume that is just insane, insane
volume. So it costs them 27 cents to make they sold at $3.50.
And they do high volume. And so they just, you know, everybody's
using their tilt switches. So the whole point of what I'm
saying is, the value of your patent really isn't based on the
complexity of your technology is based on how good the patents
drafted, and whether or not the technology is needed in the
industry. Because you can have the most basic thing like a
Christmas a Christmas hook for hanging garland, which one of
my oldest clients had, and he was in Walmart, Lowe's, eBay,
everywhere making millions. You know, so and that's a cheap
little, like piece of plastic, versus I've had clients that are
following patents on. I mean, I follow a patent for BAE systems.
They had a way of determining what kind of weapons were
utilized by troops on the ground, in in a warfare
environment, by sending signals from a satellite and to tell and
telling by the diffraction of light off of lenses on the
weapons, they could tell what kind of weapons were used,
because they knew what kind of lenses were used. So if you're
using a certain kind of lens, you know, oh, this kind of rifle
is associated with that lens. So the troops on the ground there,
they're using these kind of weapons, that's how they knew
what to use against them. So the whole point is, the money that
you'll make on patents really is not dependent upon the
complexity is dependent upon what's needed in the industry.
Okay, so don't don't think to yourself, well, that's too
simple. I don't know if I want to file a patent. That's not
necessarily true. Okay, just just just to kind of give you
some kind of voter confidence, but what you come up with is
important. Okay. Again, patents last for 20 years from filing.
If you can reverse engineer it, file a patent. If it's dead in
three to five years, don't bother waste of time waste of
money. Okay. You can file what are called apparatus patents,
process patents. So there you can follow them on systems on
devices, on machines, you can follow them on methods. Where my
coaches just raised by a show of hands, where my coaches, okay,
if you've got a very novel process of doing something, and
it's not just done by a human being, you may have something
that's protectable. There are method patents out there. So you
should be consulting with an IP attorney with a patent attorney.
Let me correct that. Not an IP attorney, a patent attorney.
Don't talk to a trademark attorney about patent law,
please. You're just gonna get in trouble. It's just don't do it.
It's not it doesn't make sense. Like, if, if you need somebody
to talk to about copyrights, don't talk to a trademark
attorney. Like they're gonna say, Oh, yeah, I can research
this. Yeah, I'm sure you could. I can research it too. I'm not
paying you 600 bucks an hour for you to learn on my clock.
Right? You'd be surprised how many lawyers will do that.
They're like, yeah, I could do that. And then they spend like a
half hour 45 minutes learning a topic to teach you about it.
It's like, no, no, no, you want to make sure they have
experience. Okay. So many different things are
protectable. But before actually, before I go into Ray,
I'm going to pause for a second, because I want to give away, I
want to give away two prizes. Now one on the wheel. And I also
want to give away one on a question. This will be the first
person to answer this question is going to get a $50 Amazon
gift certificate. And it can't be April because April is too
smart. And she steals all the presents. So like, we can't hang
out with April for Christmas. So she has all the presents with
her name on the tree. So here's here's the question. All right.
There are three stats story bars. I have mentioned them in
passing already, we're going to talk about them in detail here
now. But I've mentioned them in passing. I want to see if
anybody remembers this. If a person in the public is using
the invention for its intended purpose, but they're using it
for testing purposes. What is that call? What is that
exception to public use call? If somebody is using it for
experimental purposes? What do you call that? If anybody knows?
It's okay, if you don't, we're going to go over it now. Okay,
I'll ask one other question.
If you, there are three stat story bars, right?
Beta testing.
Close, close, Rita.
So there's three stat story bars.
If you have your invention published,
what is that bar called?
What is the bar called that's associated
with publication of your invention?
What is that bar called?
This is not a trick question.
Just guess.
Patent.
It's the blank bar and it has to do with publication.
What's the bar called?
I don't see it in chat.
Publication bar, Deidre, that's it.
That's the name of it, the publication bar.
So make sure you write down right at Deidre gets it.
Rick is like, what, what?
That was it.
All right, there are three statutory bars, okay?
If you violate any of these statutory bars,
please listen to this.
You lose your invention.
It's considered donated to the public.
It's gone.
You cannot recover it.
And in fact, if you file a patent after this
and you know it, you're actually committing fraud
on the patent office, which is a federal offense.
All right, so please listen to these three statutory bars.
The first one is called the publication bar.
The publication bar basically is saying
that if your invention is substantially complete
or ready to invent, if it's ready for patenting, right?
So think of AutoCAD.
Think of having your diagrams already done in AutoCAD,
which means you can render it.
It's ready to be created, right?
You know what your invention looks like.
You have a good idea of how to make it, okay?
If it's at that, if, actually, you know what I'm gonna do?
I'm gonna talk about the,
yeah, let me talk about the public use bar.
I'll talk about the public use bar.
I think that's the easiest one to do.
So if your invention basically is described
in some kind of document
so that other people can understand the invention
and it's readily available to the public, that's it.
Readily available to the public
and it's described in enough detail
so that somebody else can practice the invention,
that's called publication.
That's all that's required.
Think of a white paper.
Think of, you're so excited about your invention,
you put it on your website.
You put a picture of your invention on the website
or you do a YouTube video
and you describe every single component of the bicycle
and you show a picture of it.
That's readily available to the public
and somebody can pick that up and practice the invention.
That's considered publication.
From the date that you do that,
you have one year in the United States.
If you don't file a patent within that year,
your invention's considered donated to the public.
Gone, gonzo, can't get it back, it's gone.
Nothing you can do about it, okay?
That's called the publication bar.
The on-sale bar, that's the second one.
Somebody tap into chat, on-sale bar.
Right, on-sale bar, okay, that's the second one, okay?
This on-sale bar is a little different.
With the on-sale bar, that one is the one that says,
was the invention essentially ready for patenting?
So you have it on AutoCAD.
What I started to tell you about,
that's more like the on-sale bar.
So if, does anybody here not know what AutoCAD is?
Let me, so basically it's a computer rendering program
where you take your product
and you make it like 3D rendered in the software
so somebody can pick it up and create it, all right?
So it's basically complete
in a computer software program, all right?
That's, it's called AutoCAD.
That's one of the programs that does that.
If you've got your invention substantially complete,
ready for patenting, and you offer it for sale.
Now, please, please listen to this.
You don't actually have to be the person
offering it for sale.
If you have a company and you have a marketing team
and your marketing team offers something for sale
without your permission,
they may have started the clock without you knowing.
There's a really famous case, a really famous case.
Should be an infamous case, known for bad reasons,
but there's a very famous case.
What happened is there was a pharmaceutical company
and they were at a trade show, at a conference.
There was a member of their marketing team who was there,
did a presentation about a drug,
gave handouts about the drug,
that went into detail about the drug, okay?
Now, here's the thing.
He didn't actually realize
that they hadn't filed a patent yet.
Now, for those of you that are in pharmaceuticals,
you can help.
You know that you spend a tremendous amount of money
going after maybe five or six or seven
or eight different drugs, hoping that one of them hits
and that one of them gets FDA approval.
So you'll spend tons and tons of money
to finally get one that'll hit
and then hopefully hit the market with it.
This was the one that hit.
This guy from the marketing team goes to this conference,
talks about it, gives handouts about it,
offers this thing like so other people,
distributors can come in and buy in bulk
and do all sorts of things.
They hadn't filed a patent yet.
Sometime later, legal finds out about this drug
and says, oh, let's file a patent.
A few years later, they file a patent on it.
They get the patent.
They try to enforce the patent
against another party who's infringing.
You know what happens?
Patents invalidated because it was offered for sale.
And on top of that, there was a publication.
I mean, that's just a bad scenario.
I mean, obviously the guy was fired,
but the company itself lost potentially millions
off of one mistake.
So if you have a marketing team within your company,
make sure you explain this stuff to your marketing team.
Any of you guys and gals who have a marketing team,
you should be teaching them all the stuff
that you've learned over this week.
Like you need to make sure they understand this stuff.
Rhea, did you have a question?
I think she's frozen.
Oh, no.
No, I'm just praising.
Okay, awesome.
Gotcha, gotcha, gotcha.
So make sure that you explain this stuff to them, please,
because if your marketing team is not on board
with what you're doing,
you can be losing things left and right, okay?
All right, so those are two of the statutory bars.
The last one is the public use bar.
The public use bar, the way that one works
is if the invention is used for its intended purpose
by one member of the public
and more than one year passes
is considered donated to the public, all right?
So now think of like Samuel
creates a bicycle in his garage, right?
And Samuel says,
I wanna see how this works for really tall people.
So John Unsted is really tall, right?
I did a video with this guy.
I did a video with this guy,
it was like six months ago or something like that.
I'm standing on the curb next to him
so I could be somewhere near his height.
That's how tall he is, literally.
And then at the end of the video, I stepped down.
It's really a funny video.
So, but the whole point being,
let's say Samuel says,
I wanna see how this works for tall people.
So he takes the bike.
He goes over to his neighbor, John and says,
hey, John, can you ride this bike around
and just kind of test it out and see what it's like?
John does, he rides it around.
He gives him feedback.
Samuel does some modifications.
He says, okay, I need to make sure
that the seat is adjustable now.
I'm gonna make an adjustable seat, right?
So that's some modification he made
based on somebody else's feedback.
That's called experimental use, that's okay.
That's the third part of using it for its intended purpose.
But it's for a temporary period of time.
There's no money exchanged.
It's not a sale.
It's like, it's experimental use, it's testing, right?
That's okay.
But if instead Samuel said, hey, John, you're tall.
I got a bike.
I want you to try it out, but you know what?
It's gonna cost you $275 to have the bike.
And John says, all right, yeah, sure.
I'm happy to give you feedback.
Yeah, I'll give you 275.
So he gives him 275.
Now John's riding around, enjoying the bike,
and every once in a while, he gives him some feedback,
but he keeps the bike.
There's no real terms and conditions.
That's not experimental use.
You might get some feedback from somebody,
but that was a sale.
Samuel made money on that thing.
That's a flat out sale, right?
So that would be a problem.
So again, the three statutory bars,
on sale bar, public use bar, publication bar.
So why am I telling you this stuff?
A lot of you are on the internet.
A lot of you are on Instagram, Facebook, YouTube,
TikTok, talking about everything that you do.
And I'm going, what in the world are you doing?
I'm thinking, oh my gosh.
So just understand that some of the things that you do
may result in you losing rights.
We've talked about trademarks.
We've talked about copyrights.
The good things about trademarks and copyrights
is if you do something, you still have legal rights, right?
In the copyright world, you have legal rights.
have rights. Second that you make that painting, boom, you
got legal rights. You want to go out there and show it to the
world? Yeah, so that's okay. Maybe if you show it the wrong
way, you might lose money. But at the same time, you still have
certain legal rights. The patent world does not work like that.
It is completely different from trademarks and copyright. Don't
confuse them. And in foreign countries, where are my people
that do sales in foreign countries, or do coaching in
foreign countries, have people coming in from foreign
countries? All right, we got a good number of you. All right.
Understand this in foreign countries. It works different. I
just told you how it works in the United States. There are
three statutory bars, which means when you perform any of
the actions that I just told you. Oh, and just so you guys
know, I'm going to drop in the Facebook group, a list of the
statutory bars. Okay, just so you have it. I know you're
taking notes, but I'm going to list it for you anyway. So you
have it there as well. Okay. You're going to see I'm going to
be dropping more stuff for all of you just so that you're going
to have access to the Facebook group. Even if you don't take
the offer, if you're in a challenge, you have access to
the Facebook group for 30 days, right? If you're in VIP, you
have access for 90 days. For those of you that take the
offer, you have access for a year to all of your challenge
videos, all of your VIP videos, plus you go into the portal and
you do all these other perks that we're giving all of you.
Okay. I don't know about it. Thank you. Teresa. Teresa, you
got a question? Go ahead and unmute yourself. Go ahead and
ask.
Okay, so I thought that there was four, I thought publication
bar, on sale bar, statutory bar and public use bar. So
good question. Good question. The other three are called
statutory bars, my friend. That's what they're called. So
the on sale bar is a statutory bar. The public use bar is a
statutory bar. The public use, the on sale publication and
public use bar, all of them are, they're called statutory bars.
That's what they are. Each of them. Statutory bar is not a
separate bar.
So statutory bar is a category and publication on sale and
public all belong under that.
You got it. Yeah. You're so welcome. You're so welcome.
Great question. Great question. So here's the thing. In the
United States, you have one year from that date, right? I
said, you, you, you made your offer for sale, you got one
year, it's okay, file your patent within that year. Here's
the problem. In foreign countries, they don't have a one
year extension does not exist. And for those of you that are
doing business in foreign countries, if you make a offer
for sale, or a, a disclosure, it's actually called the
disclosure bar in foreign countries, but you do any public
disclosure of your material in foreign countries, gone. My
snapper doesn't work. There we go. Gone. All right. Literally
gone. That's a problem, guys. Like if your market if your big
market is in Europe, and you're thinking, Oh, that's okay, my
marketing team is gonna offer this thing for sale at a trade
show next week. That's okay. I've got a year after that date
to file a patent application. No, you don't. The second you
offered it for sale at the trade show, it was gone in foreign
countries. You don't get a year it's gone. That's a big deal.
That can make or break some companies. And if you're selling
things on Amazon or eBay, guess what, there's probably a good
chance that you have people purchasing from foreign
countries, which means you probably have a market in foreign
countries. So be careful. Okay. Be very careful. So those are
the stat story bars. The United States is three foreign
countries. There is one now in foreign countries. I want to
take this very slow. So nobody gets really confused here. In
foreign countries, they allow you if you're making a
disclosure to an individual or to a small group, they allow you
to use NDAs. All right in foreign countries, and this is
where you need to talk to your lawyers. Make sure you talk to
your lawyers on this. This is so important. They had they need to
analyze your specific scenario and determine whether or not
your specific scenario and NDA is going to work or not. Okay.
But and this is foreign countries, again, only foreign
countries, not the US. Somebody type in the chat, not the US,
not the US. You guys have to understand this because people
get this wrong, and then they lose all their rights by
accident. And we can't have you guys messing this up. Not the
US. NDAs work in foreign
countries to stop what's called the disclosure,
the public disclosure bar,
which means if I have a meeting with Tim
and Tim is in Germany,
and I offer this thing for sale to Tim,
but I have an NDA,
it may be that it did not violate the public disclosure bar
because we had an NDA.
In the United States, they don't care.
The reason why they don't care is
because they gave you a year from that date.
So they don't care if you use an NDA or not.
In the United States,
NDAs don't work to stop a statutory bar.
Statutory bars, NDAs are down here.
Like in foreign countries, NDAs are up here.
They don't have any statutory bars.
They just have one bar, right?
Everybody goes to the same bar.
In foreign countries.
In the United States, we have a high variety, okay?
So there's a difference between the two.
All right.
What is an NDA?
What's an NDA?
Non-disclosure agreement.
Good question.
So there's a thing,
and we talk about this in the portal a lot.
We actually go into what terms are really important
in non-disclosure agreements and things like that.
So in a non-disclosure agreement,
you're having the other party sign this document
so they understand that whatever you disclose to them,
they can't tell anyone else.
But then there's a flavor in NDA called an NDA-NCA,
which is a non-compete agreement.
That's what you want.
You don't want just non-disclosure agreements.
You want non-disclosure agreements that add non-competes.
That means that your non-compete will make it so,
now when I talk to Julie and I disclose things,
not only is she not able to disclose it,
but she's not able to build a company to compete with me
because I have her locked in on a non-disclosure
and a non-compete, okay?
All right.
With that, I'm going to share something with you guys.
I want to show you guys that you've learned a lot.
So let me show something to you.
Let's close this.
You guys don't need this anymore.
Let's go right in here.
If I can get this shown to all of you.
There we go.
Okay, let's open this.
Okay, and share my screen.
Okay, I want to show you that you guys have learned a lot.
I'm not going to answer any of these questions now.
I'm going to show all of you a scenario
and you can unmute yourself and you can say out loud,
what area of IP you see in every line that I read to you.
Okay?
Okay.
And right afterwards, I'm going to give you guys,
I'm going to hand out another prize.
Actually, there's two more I'm going to hand out.
So here we go.
Let me share this with all of you.
Here's the scenario.
I don't like answering questions.
Not always.
Only if I know the answers.
Okay.
We're going to have the best gag reel ever.
Ray, we are going to have the best material for gag reels.
This is going to be great.
I can't wait.
Okay, here we go.
Number one, you own a small company called Burger Town.
What area of IP?
Baymark.
Very good, Baymark.
Number two, your number one selling burger
is called the Belt Buster.
What area?
Trademark.
Come on, come on.
You guys are so smart.
This is good.
All right, number three.
You have a website advertising the company.
Copyright.
I didn't even finish.
That's so good.
I didn't even finish.
I was like, wait, I didn't even finish, guys.
I got to finish the line.
So.
They're speed readers.
They are speed readers, yes.
You have a website advertising the company,
providing a menu.
Copyright.
Yeah.
Copyright.
And describing ingredients.
Copyright.
Okay.
Great secrets.
Ooh, who said that?
Was that Samuel?
Yeah.
Yeah, good job, man.
Okay, good job.
That's good.
All right, hold it.
Preparation techniques.
Patent.
Come on, yes.
Information regarding each item on the menu.
Copyright.
Very good.
Come on.
All right.
This is what a good teacher you are.
Aw, bless you.
Guys, you guys are awesome. All right, the next line, you have a
new process. Come on, yes, for keeping inventory of burgers
prepared, and for determining loss of profits by a novel
pressure sensitive device. Yep, not that word novel should
always give that away novel. And so in that line right there, it
says you have a new process for keeping inventory of burgers
prepared and for determining loss of profits by using a
novel pressure sensitive device. What's what is patentable there?
device and what else process process? Come on, come on. Yes,
it's located within a grill used for preparing burgers. So now,
check this out. You actually have in this line now, since we
added a grill, you can actually file a patent on the pressure
sensitive device, you can file a patent on the grill with the
pressure sensitive device. And you can file a patent a patent
on the process that's utilizing the novel pressure sensitive
device within the grill. And the best way to do it is to file one
patent that has three sets of claims where one set of claims
is on the process. One is on the pressure sensitive device,
and the other one is on the grill. That's how you get the
maximum impact from one pad. Okay. All right. Next, the
burgers placed on an indented surface of the grill during
cooking. The indented surface has a pressure sensitive switch
that is thrown when the weight of a burger is detected. Very
good. All right, here comes the next one. Get ready for this
one. This could be a curveball. Software within a computer is
capable of comparing the number of detected burgers to actual
burgers. What do you have?
Copyright process.
Right.
Process.
Oh,
you guys have nailed it. That's right. The software code is
protectable by copyright, the process is protectable by
patents. Yeah. Right. Very good. Very good. You guys do so
well with your companies. And then the last part, I just
finished reading off. So it says, to determine how many
cooked burgers were never sold, burn drop free replacements are
provided or claimed as by as a working benefit by a disgruntled
employee in there done that. Let's see next. You also sell a
new drink called Hungary.
Great, great, great, great, Mark. And everyone loves but no
one knows how to replicate.
Come on. This is so good. So I hereby ordain all of you idea
protectors. You've done it. Congratulations. I applaud you.
You've done a great job. That's so good. I'm so proud of you
guys. So you guys have covered top level stuff on trademarks,
copyrights, patents. Obviously, there's a lot more guys. I mean,
I've given you a taste of what the world is really like.
There's a lot more involved. I truly and honestly hope that
you'll join us in this offer. It's a phenomenal opportunity.
It'd be my honor to serve you guys in this and to continue
serving you throughout the year. You'll get more of this, like
we'll be directly working with each other throughout the year.
And it's even more engaging. And it's more fun. Quite frankly, we
have a blast when we do this, as Samuel would tell you. Um, now
let me do a little housekeeping here. Number one, can we load up
the wheel? So I want to give away I want to give away another
Amazon $50 gift card first. And let's roll the wheel for that.
All right, now everybody isn't here. So you have to be here in
order to win one of these prizes. Correct. And get this
out of the way.
Wow, Peters strategist said,
just said,
Eileen's on a plane. Oh, man, she joined us. He's gonna be so
long. Yeah, he's on a plane. She's in the foundation. And I
think he's through. Yes, she joined us. Yeah, she's in.
strategist said that this is more fun than med school.
My gosh, med school.
Oh, gosh, that's got to be so hard. Michael. Oh, is Michael
here?
He is not.
Oh,
again.
Yeah, law school was hard. But that's three years med school.
That's
just missed me.
Pamela is Pamela here.
She is.
Awesome. All right. Pamela gets the other $50 Amazon gift card.
Okay. Awesome. Now, there is a name on there at all.
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, Peter. I thank you. You're
very welcome. You're very welcome. All right. I'm at a big
family feed. So I know I heard.
See, I heard.
What? Enjoy your family. Enjoy your family. Thank you. All
right. Italian. Oh, gosh. Yeah, Puerto Ricans and Italians
getting together is dangerous because we go into food comas.
Very dangerous. We just don't stop eating. So um, one more
thing. Oh, just a homework thing. If you guys would bless
us because as you can imagine, we put a lot of time and effort
into this. I truly want to see all of you succeed. I'm going to
be going through your videos as well. I'm going to be doing some
extra lives for you in the Facebook groups just giving you
some extra perks. I'm in there just to help you out. We're
going to be giving you Ray's going to send all of you a
review form. If you could please fill that out. It's invaluable
to us. Your review is very important to me personally,
because I review every single one of them like to see what
people like what they don't like what things help them. And if
everything is great, that's great, too. I've got, you know,
some that are like that as well. Actually, a lot that are like
that as well. But towards the end, there's a section that
asks you to just kind of describe if you were talking
about the protector idea challenge to somebody else. How
would you describe it? Now I might take some of that material
and use that for like an ad or use that for like a blurb that
I can utilize to guide other people in here so we can help
more people because each of you is in a different sector from
myself, right? There's not a lot of IP attorneys here as far as I
know. So, you know, people within your own business
sectors, and obviously spread the word, let other people know
if this has helped you let other people know, if you are in, if
you've taken the offer, you're going to get an affiliate link.
Alright, so when you when you refer somebody, send them the
affiliate link, please, because then you'll get 20% of every
single referral. If people do not click on your link, and they
sign up, we can't go backwards and try to figure out who
referred who. It's all automated through lead dino. Okay, and
there's there's hundreds of people that have been through
the system. And there's a lot of affiliates. So I want to make
sure it runs seamless. So if you're taking the offer, you
should be getting an affiliate link right away. All right. And
then you can let other people know. And we will be sending you
an email at some point when we do the next challenge. And when
you let other people know, send them your link, please, because
I'd much rather you be blessed, if possible. Right? It just
helps you guys out. And quite frankly, it can end up paying
off your own membership into the into this, this anyway. And
that's what a lot of people done like Todd and Tamra. They've
already paid for their membership over and over. So
that's what people do is they use it in that manner. I'll take
one or two questions. And then we are going to adjourn. Don't
forget, Monday is a free session. Okay, Monday, we'll do
the trademark searches. Anybody have a quick question either
about the offer that we have? Remember, you have until
tomorrow night, midnight in California, which is three in the
morning, which basically just means until I wake up, then I'm
shutting it off. So Evelyn, how are you? I love that thing in
the background, by the way. Oh, thank you. It's a blanket with
eagles. And I love eagles. I like. Yeah, loving you, Peter,
and the team. Listen, I, my question is, you mentioned that
in the foreign countries. There's no way of as far as a
patent. But my question is, let's say if I have songs over
there. And they're saying there's no compensation, that
means that the songs that's pretty much gone, right? Because
it's in other countries, as far as like compensation.
All right, let me let me clarify something first, just to make
sure. So there are foreign rights for patents, just to be
clear.
There are foreign rights.
You can file patents in foreign countries.
There's the European Patent Office,
the Japanese Patent Office,
there's the Canadian Patent Office.
Every foreign country has a patent office, okay?
Now, there's only one statutory bar in foreign countries.
In foreign countries, it's a public disclosure bar, period.
You violate that, technology is gone, you can't recover.
Now, there's certain countries that have,
which I didn't wanna go into which specific countries
actually have an extension.
There's like less than a handful of countries
that'll give you an extension of up to like three months.
Right, they're like exceptions
to the exceptions of the rule.
Like if you're in this offer portal thing,
you'll learn about all this other stuff.
They're like exceptions to exceptions, right?
But in general, just understand
that you can't go after rights.
Now, if you're talking about songs,
you're talking about songs or music, is it songs?
Songs.
Okay, so songs fall under copyrights.
Copyrights are protectable in foreign countries.
You can have, there are copyright laws.
What you wanna do is figure out
which specific country you have.
And then if you're in the network that we have,
some of the people that are in the network
who are here will tell you,
I'll just get you in touch with the attorneys
that I have in those countries.
And then when you work through us,
would they actually give you a discount to work with them?
Because as an example, if you worked with Marks and Clark,
you'd have to pay like 500 to $800 an hour, right?
But they discounted because they're in my referral network.
Right, now I don't get anything back for it.
Like I don't get a commission.
There's no legal affiliate program
in the legal profession.
Like you don't, if I send you a client,
you don't get 20%.
That doesn't work in the legal profession.
If people are doing that, I think that's really unethical
because what essentially you're doing is
you may be bypassing quality so as to make money.
And that's dangerous, right?
So the legal profession frowns upon this kind of like
affiliate 20% of what I bill, I'll send you.
They don't really like that.
Cause it's, every profession has people who are not good.
I'll just leave it at that.
So I don't think it's as bad as the movies make it.
They make lawyers look really bad in the movies
because you can get a lawyer disbarred.
Not too difficult, it's not too difficult
to get them suspended, to get them reprimanded
and you can even get them disbarred.
So it's, there's a lot more power than people understand.
And so, but anyways, to answer your question,
if you're going for rights in foreign countries,
you just need to speak to an agent in that country.
You can, by all means, you can get rights there.
What if it's 70, more than 70 countries?
If it's, so if you're doing copyrights,
it's more difficult than if you're doing trademarks.
In trademarks, within six months,
you can do a foreign filing that covers
many foreign countries, one filing, okay?
But in copyrights, I don't believe
they have anything like that.
I don't think you can cover like 70 countries.
Let me double check.
I'm gonna double check, all right?
After we get off tonight, I'll double check.
I love when I get a question that I'm like,
hmm, let me check that one out.
So let me just write down.
Yeah, because there's no such thing,
like in the patent world, there's no such thing
as a global patent, doesn't exist.
There's no such thing as a global trademark, right?
Then you can get a trademark that's covered
in multiple countries, but you can't have one patent
that's covered in multiple countries.
You have a patent, and then what you do is,
within a year, you do a foreign filing,
or you do what's called a PCT application
on their Patent Cooperation Treaty.
And then, sorry if I'm getting some people lost,
but if you, she asked, so I'm just kind of giving her
some of the information.
So if you file in the United States,
within one year, you have to do foreign filing.
If you don't file within that one year,
then you can't rely upon the US filing date, right?
I'm gonna give you an example of just how complex this is,
and this is why this offering that I'm giving you
is so important, because there's a lot
that's involved here, okay?
It's not as simple as people think it is.
If I file in the United States,
within one year, I have to do a foreign filing.
That foreign filing could be directly
in specific countries, or it can be what's called
a Patent Cooperation Treaty application.
If I file a Patent Cooperation Treaty application,
I now have 30 months from the earliest priority date
to file directly in specific countries, right?
So that means two and a half years.
So I filed-
January 1st, 2020, I've got two and a half years
to file in the specific countries
if I filed what's called a PCT application.
That's how the patent world works, right?
Now, copyrights don't work like that.
Copyrights are very different.
Copyrights, you just file directly in countries.
And so let me double check and I'll put something up
if I see any way to cover multiple countries
for copyrights, but I've never,
I've never seen like one application
cover many different countries in copyrights,
but I'll double check, absolutely.
And if it's there, I'll find it
because that's my specialty
is finding stuff in a legal realm.
All right, Sridhar, you're in VIP, right?
Yeah, let's cover it in VIP.
Sylvia, are you in VIP?
Let's cover in VIP, okay?
Because it's already 8.16, okay?
All right, my friends, bless all of you.
Anybody who is not going to be there on Monday,
I wish you the very best.
And please respond to that, the request for the review.
And I hope you'll join us in the,
with the IP Protection Portal
and with the entire package that we're doing with the audit.
So I'll see you guys later.
Larissa, I'll leave you here.
10 minutes, we'll get started over there.