So, we're going to cover a few things today, but the main thing I'm going to hit is the
searching of logos.
And the reason why I wanted to cover this is because it's different, like it's different
from the normal searching that's out there.
And so, I'm going to show you the searching of logos, but I'm going to start out with
the searching that we've done before, right?
So, just so everybody gets a quick refresher on a normal search, then we're going to jump
right into searching logos, okay?
This way, you guys will have one replay that kind of covers it all, right?
This way, you're not like, oh, where's the replay for, you know, normal searching?
That's on day two, and in VIP, they did this, and in the class, they did that.
So, now you got one video now that does normal searching, and then one for logo.
I wasn't going to do that, but then I thought, that'd be really cool to have one video for
everything.
So, this way, we go, hey, Natalie, how are you?
I love the color.
That's a perfect purple.
I love that.
Now, let's see.
All right.
So, let me go to the USPTO website.
Okay.
So, let me share my screen.
Pow.
All right.
So, fair warning, before I start sharing screens, okay?
Fair warning, okay?
So, this is our last day together, so things are probably going to get off the handle,
like there may be moments that are not very professional, like jokes that just nobody's
going to understand.
Like, it's one of those kind of days, all right, just so people know it's kind of like
in between withdrawal, but enjoying your presence at the same time.
So, we'll see how it works, all right?
But you know, we're just going to dig in here, just so you guys know.
All right.
So, here we go.
We're going to go to the USPTO website.
Let's turn over there.
There it is.
Bam.
All right.
Now, it's up.
USPTO website.
Everybody should know this site by now, which is awesome.
USPTO.gov.
All right.
So, right here, you click on trademarks.
You click on searching trademarks.
Okay.
So, and again, you can click on this link here or you can click on this link there.
It doesn't matter.
They both do the same thing.
They're both in the same place.
All right.
So, these are your search options.
Option number one, behind door number one, we have a basic search.
Under the basic search, you have multiple options.
Option number one is you can search for a word.
Option number two, you can search for a serial number or registration number.
And option number three, you can search for an owner name or address.
All right.
So, those are your three different searches there.
Okay.
But the problem with all this is that there's not a lot of options.
Like, I like more options.
Like, I don't know about you guys, but see, when I go out to eat, my wife goes crazy sometimes because I'm very particular.
Like, when I order, I don't order off the menu.
Like, I order one thing and then I modify it and modify it.
That's probably why I like option number two.
Okay.
Option number two, you can order pepperoni.
You can get onions.
You can get chicken.
You can get anything you want on this.
Like, every single option is under option number two.
Okay.
So, this is why I like option number two.
So, let me just go through this real quick.
I doubt anybody is ever going to use an abandonment date, affidavits, assignment recorded, attorney of record, basic index, coordinated class, cancellation date, change in registration.
Maybe you'll do a current basis that's really like live or dead or section 1A or 1B.
Decimal mark, you're not going to use.
Today, we're going to talk about description of the mark.
Okay.
So, everything up to here, I'd say nobody's going to use any of this, most likely.
I'll use it every once in a while.
Like, if I'm looking for a certain attorney to see what they've done on a case, I might look up their name.
Like, you can look up my name if you're really bored.
You just look up my name and do a query and see that there's like 532 different records of different trademarks that I have.
And I recognize all of these.
Yep.
These are all mine.
This was a weird one.
Milky foot.
This object, this product is actually supposed to make your foot smooth.
But I wouldn't have named the product Milky Foot, just personally.
I'm just saying.
It's a large corporation, too.
They came out with a product called Milky Foot.
I didn't think that was a good idea.
But anyways.
All right.
So, now, if you go down to the ones that we will use.
All right.
You could use full mark, but if you use full mark,
you're looking only for that exact word
and not that word plus anything else, right?
So you're just gonna get, if you search,
if you're trying to find Microsoft Excel,
if you search for the word Microsoft alone,
you're not gonna get Microsoft Excel.
You're just gonna get Microsoft alone.
Cause that's saying that what you typed in is the full mark.
That's why it says full mark, right?
Goods and services, we've talked about that before.
Every trademark application has a recitation of goods
or recitation of services,
depending upon if the trademark's used
for goods or services, okay?
International class, we talked about that.
I gave you the link to figure out
what international class your products are,
your products or services are provided in.
Like class 41 is associated with online training,
which is one of the things that we've been doing.
So that's certainly one that people will be using
if they're using their, your trademarks
for challenges where you're training other people, right?
International registration number,
you're probably not gonna know that when you search.
Live or dead, that basically just says,
is the case alive or dead?
That was really tough.
Mark drawing code, you're not gonna know the drawing code.
Mark index, you're not gonna know that.
All right, these two here,
mark punctuated work and non-punctuated work.
This is the one I use the most,
non-punctuated word mark, right?
So if I have like Microsoft Excel,
I'll select non-punctuated word mark,
then I'll type over here, Microsoft Excel.
Somebody told me what I did just now that's wrong.
Unmute yourself and tell me what I did that was wrong,
out of what I just typed.
You didn't capitalize.
Yes, somebody said it, no parentheses.
You wanna do parentheses
because if you don't do parentheses,
then what you're gonna get is every single instance
of the word Microsoft
and every single instance of the word Excel,
whether they're together or not.
You want them together, you gotta put the quotes around.
Okay?
Quotations.
Right, quotes, quotations, quotes.
Isn't that the same thing, quotes?
Not as parentheses, you said parentheses.
Well, somebody else said parentheses.
I knew what they meant.
I was gonna say wrong, you're wrong.
I knew what they meant.
We all knew what they meant.
Oh yeah, kudos to them.
Then I said parentheses, see?
You have to affirm people.
That's how they participate.
I'm loving, loving, loving it all.
Otherwise they just won't answer.
So, you know, you're like, you ask them a question,
the answer is dog, and they're like octopus.
Well done, that is the answer.
It is a furry dog, well done.
All right, so now, here we go to the next one.
The no with their head approach.
Yes, exactly.
That one doesn't work well.
All right, so non-punctuated mark works very well.
Original filing basis, that's like,
you're not gonna deal with that.
Other data, nah.
Owner's name, you may use owner's name.
All right, so if you're looking,
if I'm looking for all the trademarks by Susie Carter,
because she's been buying them all up,
and we all know that she's gonna become a billionaire,
then I just type in her name.
And so that's all.
You type in owner name and then type her name, okay?
The tricky thing though with names
is that if a person types in their names
with a middle initial versus like a middle,
a whole like middle name, it can get tricky.
So you might wanna search like first name and second name.
You might wanna do that.
So the way you would do that is you would type in like Peter
and then come over here and go down to owner name
and then do and, and then type in the bottom Nieves
and then go over to owner name and submit query.
So you got like protection portal, challenge whisperer
and my other trademark, see?
They're all there.
And if you guys are actually trying to figure out
a really good recitation of services for challenges,
I give you permission hereby,
cause you are here.
I give you permission to copy mine, okay?
I did a lot of homework to find the right word sequence
for challenges, educational services,
namely conducting online courses, classes, seminars,
workshops, conferences, mentorship
in the field of business marketing and advertising.
And then I kind of break it down to online courses.
I break it down to a lot of different degrees.
Even providing group coaching in the field of
blubbery, blubbery, educational services
in the field of blubbery, blubbery.
I mean, I hit it at many different blubbery, blubbery.
the angles so so if you want that you have permission matter of fact you know what I can do
you know copy
this is going to be really big if I throw this in the chat but I'll throw it in there
and you know I think I'll do oh no it won't paste copy maybe it's too big for the chat
yeah it's too big for a chat so I'll go into the Facebook page right now while we are
discussing this and I'll paste it for all you guys does this help you guys you guys that are
in challenges yeah okay so now you know what recitation of goods you can use I'll just type
in exemplary recitation of goods no recitation of services for class 041 associated with challenges
control v wow that's long post okay now you guys got it it's in the Facebook group
you can copy it all you want uh looks like it's posting there it goes okay so let me
stop sharing my screen and share again so that you're all seeing the same screen that I'm on
okay so let me go back now
okay so we just saw owner's name I'm going down a little bit more name and address
if you're trying to send somebody a Christmas card I guess uh next one priority date uh you're
not really going to well priority date is going to tell you when an individual started using a
trademark right so you want to the problem is you're likely not going to search for that exact
date because you're not going to know the priority date on somebody's trademark if you don't know the
trademark so I doubt that you're going to use that field physical filing date doubt that you'll
look for that one pseudomark you're not going to do that published opposition not going to do that
prior registrations nope registration date doubt it renewals register registration number nope nope
uh nope nope nope nope type of mark perhaps in US class so most of these you're not going to use
okay again the main ones just one last time the main ones you're going to use
are description of mark which we're going to talk about
um you're like you may use full mark if you want to search just for the exact same mark
goods and services you're definitely going to use international class you'll likely use
a non-punctuated word mark you'll likely use and you could look for the owner's name as well
um the other ones doubt they use any other any other ones okay all right so that right there
that is how you do a normal trademark search okay um let me take one minute here to see if
before I jump in does anybody have any questions on a normal trademark search
I'll take up to two if there are any doesn't look like there are any yes Teresa go ahead
can you leave those as an inheritance to your children or grandchildren
that's not a that's not a trademark search question oh so sorry never mind that's a asset
question so um I mean just to answer your question IP is an intangible asset you can by
all means transfer all right title and interest to anybody just like you would a chair or a car
or a house so you can you can most certainly do that yeah does anybody thank you so much
oh you're so welcome now anybody have a question on search at all I wanted to know about my own
bible trivia what a twist game event would that be um it's not a challenge but it's an actual
event that I host um is this a question on trademark searching yeah but what's your question
oh okay I have my game which is one name but then I have an event that I host which is bible trivia
what a twist game day so that's a service then right so that would that would be a trademark
I would do a trademark for it yes that's a good question guys okay so let me break this down
because there'll be situations where people have a product but then they have a service that uses
the product right right right lots of people have that so you have this product then there's also a
service provider product so let's say you have like um a car washing kit that you sell but you
also own a car washing
thing. What do you call carwashing things? Carwashing place. Yeah, that's it. That's
the technical term for the day. Station. Thank you, Larissa. Carwashing station. Yeah, that's
what we'll call it. Okay. So the product itself is in one international class. The service
for washing cars would be in another international class. So if I had like a game board, I would
have the game itself would be in one international class. And then the providing of, or the making
of, or the, yeah, so the providing of games to others is different. They're different
classes because if you're providing games that you're not locked to the specific game,
you're, you're in the service of providing games. The game itself is locked into exactly
what the game is. So the two international class. Tim, you had a question.
Yeah. So on some of my searches, I just click all and it, I do get a lot of information,
but am I, is that limiting other stuff or causing a problem within the search? You said
you click all. Let me see. Like I leave it on all and then I do get like what it appears
to be. Oh yeah, yeah. But it gives me all the other information. That's a great question,
Tim. All right. Let me show you guys what that means, what he's, what he's talking about.
So share screen. Boom. All right. So instead of looking at owner name, he's just keeping
it at all. So here's the, here's the issue. Let's say, say, say you look for the word
Nike, right? If I search, if I search for the term Nike, let me get rid of this, and
turn that to or, all right. If I search for the term Nike here and I say all, that means
the trademark could be Nike. It could be every, everything owned by Nike as an owner. It could
be anything that even mentions Nike, like the Greek God Nike. Everything's going to come up.
If I want just the trademarks that are, that have Nike in it, then I'm going to want to
go down to non-punctuated word mark. Does that make sense, Tim? Okay. All right. All right. Now
let's do what everybody came here for. I want to do that refresher first. So you have one video
now that's going to have normal searches. And now what we're going into, which is slightly more
complex. So let's go Nike as the owner. I'm just going to do a quick search for Nike as an owner
and 942 trademarks. Oh my goodness. That's a lot. All right. Now remember how I showed you,
you can hit the image list up here. Everybody remember this button? Click on that. There's a
whole bunch of different trademarks, right? Okay. So now as I look through these sneakers,
some of which are registered, some of which are not registered,
you go down to this. Here's a good example. This is a logo, right? It says Air Jordan.
It's a logo. So if I click on that, whoop, not there. Sorry. On the number. Okay.
It tells you that it's a design mark. And this is a 1B. When was it filed? Oh, that means,
wow, there's a trademark that they have intent to use, but they actually have not used it yet
in interstate commerce. So you guys are seeing before Air Jordans are actually using this in
the market, you guys are seeing it now. So that's pretty cool. All right. So you see right over here
See that there? Design search code. So there's that. And then there's also over here. Description
of mark. See that there? Okay. Let me start with the description of the mark.
Every design, when you file a trademark application on a design, you have to identify it. Like you
have to describe the logo. Okay. So everybody who files a trademark application must describe
their trademark. They described this thing here with the basketball, with the wings,
with the Air Jordan above it. They described it by saying the mark consists of a design of
a basketball with wings on the left and on the right and the right of the basketball with the
words Air Jordan above the basketball. Right. That's how they described that mark. Okay.
So now the question is, how exactly could I, if I was searching, how exactly would I find that mark?
So the USPTO website allows you to search
so you can search for Nike there and then you can search over here for let's say wings
and under wings you would go to
description of the mark see that when you click and
Nike now when you click over here there it is you see that so what I basically just showed you is
that every logo that is filed is going to have a description here's the problem you've got to come
up with the exact words or the right words to actually search for the logo that's the tricky
part so you're gonna have to look at this thing you know some people you some of you might look
at this thing and go that looks like a bunch of mushrooms that are growing on the back of a fence
you know I mean you know you may not think well those are wings I mean hopefully everybody looks
at that and says that's a basketball but somebody might say well that's a volleyball it doesn't even
look like a volleyball but if you're wrong you're not going to come up with a logo so you have to
come up with the exact words that are that are used by the party who filed the trademark application
okay so in this case it's easy the way I would do is I would say what are the obvious features
there's a basketball and the word Air Jordan those are clear
clear things so whenever I search for a logo if there's words in it
I don't know if you guys can hear that but my bird's having a blast over here for some reason
I don't know why we can hear it can you she's really happy all of a sudden
all right you can go play go play she just got really happy all of a sudden all right so what I
would search for when you're searching for logos is I would search for the prominent things that's
definitely a basketball that's definitely the word Air Jordan so if there's ever a word in a logo I
would search for the words because the words will always be identified when somebody files the
trademark so if I go back here and I search just like let's say Air Jordan like that
but remember you got to put the quotes in so if I search like that and see if we get it yep there it
is Air Jordan and there's the words Air Jordan see so if if I instead wanted to search for let's say
let's say the Nike Swoos would just just do it somebody tell me how I should search
somebody tell me how I should swoos for that somebody tell me how I should search for that
how should I search for the Nike Swoosh with just do it
you will put the
check mark maybe in the search term the second box you could do that sure you could do that
sure you could do that you could type in um
swoosh swoosh as a description of the mark and here you've got
looks like looks like there's only two that came up for that so let's see if we could find another
I'll show you how I would do it let me show you how I would do it I would search for
just do it
and Nike that's what I would do
oh doesn't even come up just do it description of the mark
and owner doesn't come up submit query doesn't come up that's interesting
so what if you just see if you do home description of the mark
let me just check one thing real quick on the images
no there's the Nike with the swoosh see this is this is why I tell you that when you actually go
and use this it's not 100 like I've been doing this for 25 years and you see how just do it
didn't pop up so if I've been doing this forever and it doesn't pop up right away then you got to
think about that so what I would do is I would go all the way to like Tim said just go to all
submit the query now I've got everything that has just do it on it see
do you see what I just did so so the system was so sensitive when I looked for
the description of the mark that it didn't come up right now I can also look
instead of description of the mark, I can also look at,
see if I could find it.
Design description, look at that.
I doubt it'll be there either.
See, it's not there either.
So what I do when it's being overly sensitive,
but I'll actually establish a barrier
by going really broad and then come in from it.
So by clicking all, like Tim said,
I get everything that has Just Do It
and that's associated to Nike,
regardless where those words Just Do It show up.
And when I do that, I click on image list,
I get Just Do It.
So those are different trademarks with Just Do It on it.
So that means to me, when I look at this,
this means to me that the registration for Just Do It
by Nike is not part of their logo.
So that means they registered Just Do It alone
and they registered the swoosh alone.
But when they filed their trademark application,
they'd included a swoosh, would just do it underneath
as a specimen to prove that it was used,
even though they didn't file for the swoosh,
would just do it underneath.
And the reason why you would never file for,
and I explained this to all of you on day,
I think it was day two,
when we talk about trademark applications.
The reason why I wouldn't file for the swoosh
would just do it on their loan
as one trademark applications,
because if you use the swoosh alone without the Just Do It,
then somebody is gonna argue that they don't infringe
because you filed for the swoosh with Just Do It.
And then if I filed for Just Do It alone without the swoosh,
then somebody can claim,
well, I just used Just Do It.
I'm sorry, I just used the swoosh,
in which case they don't infringe.
So the way that I would file a trademark application
that has a logo, which has a design element,
and it also has a words,
is I would actually file for the words separate
and I would file for the design separate.
But when you file for the design separate,
you could always use a specimen
that shows the design with the words,
because it has at least the design.
That's a little tricky,
but your lawyer should understand what I just talked about.
So the only thing that you need to realize
is if you have a trademark that has a logo
and it has words, make sure you cover both.
And I don't mean in one application.
I would file one for the words
and I would file one for the design.
That's the way I would do it.
That would get you the broadest coverage.
So nobody can come out and just use one alone.
Let's see.
I have a question and it really does apply.
All right, hold on.
Jennifer has her hand raised.
So Jennifer, go ahead.
Yeah, hey, Peter.
So how in-depth do you have to be
when you're doing a search by description?
Because as you said, if I file, it's a basketball
and it's got whatever underneath it,
then Nike might come up.
But if I draw and mine has something to do with the seashore
and I describe those same little things
as those are seashells and a beach ball,
that drawing is not gonna come up
because that's not under the description.
And yet if I make something similar to that,
even if it doesn't say Air Jordan,
am I still violating the design in that sense?
You know what I mean?
Yeah, I hear you.
You would never know.
Right, it's a good question.
It's a good question.
So like, and this is why it's important
to use professionals to do this, honestly,
because like if John Umstead was here right now,
he'll tell you that after I see somebody
do their own search,
when they come down to the exact trademark that they want,
I tell them to do an official search
with like a Thomson Reuters or a Syrian search
because they don't just search for words,
they search by codes.
And so when they're searching by codes,
they're searching classifications
and they're not just looking for the word wings,
like they're getting everything
and you get a book that's like four or 500 pages thick,
then you can look through and see everything there
and determine whether or not
there truly is an infringement issue.
So with that being the case,
your question is a very good one.
And I think the general answer for that
is if you are doing an online search
using the USPTO website,
realize that it's only like I said before,
maybe 60% efficient,
but it helps you knock out the obvious stuff.
So if you have like five or six or seven
different potential trademarks,
you should be able to knock out a good five of them
pretty easily to come down to two,
then you can.
get somebody who really knows what they're doing
to dig in more.
But what I would do in the search
is I would take the things that just can't be mistaken.
Like in that design there, that's a basketball.
That's pretty obvious.
Those things that we call wings,
somebody may look at that and say,
that looks like crown molding.
Honestly, it looks like three layers of crown molding,
like progressive layers.
So maybe this is interior design for basketball players.
Like, I don't know.
So I mean, for that reason,
I would take the most obvious prominent things.
And when I look at this, I see Air Jordan.
There's a chance that those words
will be in the description.
And when I look down at the description here,
it says it right there with the words,
Air Jordan above the basketball.
And that's in the description of the mark.
So for that reason,
I would just go for the most obvious things.
And then look at your results from there.
Like when we're doing searches,
if you only get two results,
I would think, okay, cool, that's great.
But then I dig deeper, meaning I would go broader.
Okay, so like if I'm looking,
let's say I'm looking for Air Jordan.
Somebody might not spell Air as A-I-R.
It might be A-I-R-E, or it might be H-E-I-R, Air Jordan.
And remember, that sounds the same as Air Jordan.
So when you're looking,
let's say somebody has Air Jordan as H-E-I-R Jordan,
and they're using it for sneakers.
Well, that could be trademark infringement.
If it's similarly priced, if it sounds the same,
if the logos look the same, same place of sale,
same educational level of the consumer,
the only difference is that they're spelled differently.
And so you may run into a trademark infringement issue.
So it's kind of a long way to say,
find the most predominant features, search those,
and hopefully you find stuff
that becomes easier to follow.
But it's not bulletproof.
Even if I'm in a totally different category,
like let's just say my words above that
don't say Air Jordan, but they say beach volleyball.
I don't know, or whatever.
Or basketball architecture, right?
Even if it is a basketball, it's basketball architecture.
Like you said, that's crown molding.
That's how I drew it.
I'm still though, my logo,
if I've especially drawn it similar enough to that,
someone could still take issue with the fact that,
yeah, okay, you're in architecture.
However, your drawing is still similar enough.
Yes.
Can't be doing that.
Okay.
Absolutely.
And that's the analysis that you do,
which I mentioned for a likelihood of confusion
to determine whether or not there's a potential
for trademark infringement.
That's that analysis that I went through on day two.
So that's what I would...
It's not a...
Using a free online system
is gonna save you a lot of money.
Absolutely.
When you find things that are exactly knock things out.
But at the end of the day,
you do need, you should bring it to a professional.
Once you're done, and that's gonna bring your costs down
to like a quarter of what they would have been,
had you not done that.
April, go ahead.
Thanks.
I was just gonna ask, what is the cost
for running one of those deeper searches
like the Thompson Reuters?
Great question.
Everybody who actually did take the offer,
surprise, you're getting one.
It's actually included.
It's $835.
Okay.
So that cost is in there.
Excellent.
Thank you so much.
Yeah, you're very welcome.
That's awesome.
Yeah.
So there's...
But there's, again, their searches are amazing.
Like they're so good.
It's just, they'll find anything.
They'll find federal registrations,
state registrations, business names, online websites.
They'll find URLs.
They'll find other businesses.
It's really good.
They do a great job.
Okay.
Let me just see if anybody else has any other questions
on what we just went over.
Was there a hand?
Teresa, did you have your hand up?
There you go.
Yeah, go ahead, Teresa.
Okay.
So I designed my logo on Brand Crowd, which is a website.
And I have the option to, let me lower my hand.
I have the option to purchase it
and so it'll be taken off Brand Crowd
and no one can have it anymore.
All right, let me ask you a question first.
So you said you purchased the trademark off a grand crowd,
is that what you said?
Brand, B-R-A-N-D, brand, crowd.
So it's a place that you go to buy trademarks.
I designed a logo.
You designed the logo or they do?
I did, I designed it.
On their site?
Yeah.
Okay.
That's what they do.
You pick out the logo that you want
and you design it how you want.
And so I did that.
I haven't purchased it yet
because I was gonna find somebody on Fiverr to change it.
But would it be better to purchase it directly from them?
Well, let me just,
I wanna make sure that I get some clarity here.
So you said you designed,
but then you said you purchased it.
No, I designed it.
I designed it and I was going to purchase it,
but I don't know what level to purchase it at.
I can purchase it and then allow them to keep
giving it to other people,
or I can purchase it and it only exclusively belongs to me.
Sure.
So let me just ask you a follow-up question, right?
So when you say, I designed it,
when we look at the terms, I designed it,
that can mean you go on
and you use computer software to create something,
or that can mean you give them a description
and they create it.
That's right.
That's what I did.
And they're the owner.
I changed the colors, they own it.
Then they're the owner.
Okay, got it.
So now we understand they are the artists,
even though you gave them the idea,
they're the artists, therefore they hold the copyright.
So now the question is,
should I own it outright or should I license it?
Is that what you're asking?
Yeah, like if I pay them to own it outright,
then do I need to pay to trademark it?
Like I'm confused, I'm sorry.
Yeah, you gotta check with the company,
but there's not a lot of companies out there
that when you buy a trademark from them,
they're either A, gonna do a trademark search,
or B, gonna file a trademark application.
That's extreme.
I don't know companies that will do that
just when you hire them to do a design.
Because number one, they don't want the liability.
They don't wanna pick up the liability
where you pay them believing that
you have a trademark that's clear,
and then all of a sudden you get sued
for trademark infringement.
No designing company wants that liability.
They're not lawyers.
They don't want that.
And so chances are extremely high
that they are not gonna give you a trademark search
or a trademark application.
Now, I hired a marketing company for a lot of money,
lot, a lot of money, right?
They came up with a design for something in particular.
I asked them if they did a search, they said, no.
I said, then why would I pay you a penny
to obtain rights to a thing that you're giving me
that might walk me into trademark infringement?
They didn't have an answer
because they just don't work that way.
Because they don't think that way.
You do now, obviously, because now you understand,
you wanna make sure that your logo
doesn't potentially infringe.
So what are the conditions I would have
if you go to a designer for creating a trademark,
like a trademark logo for you,
I'd say, hey, before I pay X, Y, and Z,
I wanna know that that logo
is clear of trademark infringement.
That's gonna whittle down very quickly
the number of parties
that you're gonna be able to work with to obtain a logo.
Because only the ones that are really high-end that are,
you know, I mean, even GoDaddy doesn't do a search.
Like they created some logo for me,
which I thought was hideous when I first, sorry,
when I first created a website a long time ago.
And when I looked at that thing, I thought, ugh.
But then I asked them, I said, just curious,
did you guys do a trademark search?
And they said, no, we don't do trademark searches.
So you're essentially charging us a lot of money
to come up with a logo
that could potentially walk me into a lawsuit.
Is that right?
They had no answer.
So it's your job to figure that out.
So what I would do is,
honestly, if you see a logo that you really like,
I would say to them, look, my purchasing of that logo
is conditional upon my getting a trademark search done,
confirming that it's actually clear
of trademark infringement.
And then if you find out that it's clear,
then by all means, you can buy it.
But why would you buy something
that you don't know is clear?
Well, previous people might have already purchased it,
but didn't purchase the rights to have it completely.
Oh, yeah.
Well, I mean, if it's a trademark,
if it's a trademark that somebody else purchased
the rights to have it completely,
which means they had an assignment of all rights,
over to them, then it shouldn't be available for you to buy.
Yeah, that's right.
I mean, you can buy it
and then let other people have it as well.
but once you purchase the total rights to it,
you have it completely.
But that doesn't stop the previous people
before you having rights to it.
Do you see what I'm saying?
Yeah, I see exactly what you're saying.
And I think what you want to make sure of,
Teresa, is you want to ask them,
you want to say, look,
I don't want you giving me a logo
that you licensed to somebody else, period.
I don't care if you had it for, you know,
the latest line of frog legs
that are being sold at a delicatessen.
I don't care what it is.
Like, I don't want a logo
that where rights went over to somebody else.
I want an original.
That's what you need to tell them.
Okay, so it might be better for me
to pay somebody on Fiverr to change it.
Well, even if you paid somebody on Fiverr to change it,
I mean, there's a few issues, right?
Number one, if I go to Fiverr with a logo
that somebody else owns,
then I'm modifying what somebody else owns,
and I don't have the right to create a derivative work.
That infringes upon the original copyright owner's trade,
the original copyright owner's ownership rights.
The only one who can modify a design is the original owner.
That's called the derivative.
You would essentially walk into copyright infringement
if you modify an original by giving it to Fiverr.
If you go over to them and say,
hey, this is a logo that I think is owned,
by such and such, can you modify it?
Boom, copyright infringement.
Immediately, the second they start working on that,
that's copyright infringement.
See, this is why, what you want to make sure you do,
a lot of people got stumped right away.
When I just said that, a lot of people went,
literally, though.
So this is what I would do, everyone.
What I would do is when you go to someone to create a logo,
I would say to them, I want an original logo,
meaning I don't want to license something
that somebody else has rights to.
I don't want something that you've given to somebody else.
I want an original work.
And when you create that original work,
before I actually purchase it,
I want to make sure that that doesn't commit
trademark infringement upon other parties' marks.
So therefore, you're going to provide me with a sample
of what you're thinking of doing,
and I'll go out and I'll have a trademark search done.
Then when I get the results of that search,
if it's clear, then you can proceed to finalizing
the design and tweaking the design or whatever you need,
because I know that it's clear.
But by all means, I'm not going to spend 1,000 bucks,
2,000 bucks, sometimes 5,000 bucks,
getting a quote-unquote original logo
that you licensed to somebody else,
where I essentially am using something
that someone else has rights to,
or a situation where I buy all rights out of an interest
and I'm committing trademark infringement.
Like, that's not happening.
So that's being smart in business.
And now all of you understand that.
So whenever you go to a party to create your logos,
to create your websites, create your designs,
ask them those questions, like right out of the bat.
Ask them, you know, is this an original work?
And they say, oh yeah, it's an original.
I say, let me rephrase.
Have you licensed this design to anyone, yes or no?
And if they say yes, to me,
that makes me stop immediately.
I say, okay, well, that's a problem.
I want an original work.
And if they say, okay, yes,
I'll agree to create original work for you, fantastic.
When you create a draft of it,
I'm going to have a trademark search done
because I need to make sure,
before I buy that work from you,
I have to make sure that it's clear
of trademark infringement.
Unless your company was willing to give me indemnification,
if I ever get sued for trademark infringement,
and they'll say, no, no, we'll never do that.
I say, of course you won't do that.
So we're going to do a search to make sure it's clear.
Once it's clear, then we can go into the finalization phase
and I can pay you for the mark.
Until such time, no deal.
Now you're going to go from literally thousands
or 10,000s of potential people you can work with
on Fiverr and all these other places
and a couple of people that are professionals
that can come out with something that is an original work
that will not result into you running
to trademark infringement issues.
It'll weed them out very quickly.
Any other questions on, oh yes, Songbird Rogers.
Tweet, tweet.
She just opened up a can for me because-
And being a Songbird, that was perfect.
All the worms are out, go get them.
There you go.
I just, I probably about a few months ago,
I created a logo.
Okay, yeah.
So now I am a logo designer.
So for me-
me, right? God is awesome. So for me, do I need to do
trademark searches when I'm creating logos?
That's a great question. So if I am starting a business as a
graphic designer, right? Like one of my daughters is just
remarkably gifted in in. She can look at something and draw the
exact thing. I mean, it's just she's such an incredible
artist. And so she started she actually created one of my logos.
She was the original creator of that, right? And so if you're
going to start a company, where you are, this is what I would
do. This is what I would do. All right. All right. Here's the
first one for the day. This is not legal advice. Okay. The
first one for today. But this is what I would do. If I were
starting a company, making logos for other people, I'd have an
agreement that says to them, we are in no way, shape or form
liable for any copyright infringement, trademark
infringement, and you hereby indemnify us of any cause of
action brought by a third party for trademark infringement or
copyright infringement. Because that's not what we do. We're not
doing that. If you want to do that, here's some people you can
call, you know, and they will do a trademark search for you. But
my job is to be the creative, like I am the create the person
who is a creative individual, I can tell you that I'm not
grabbing something that I already know exists. But I don't
know if it exists. I've never done a trademark search. That's
not my job. My job is to create some you say, hey, you know,
we've got these new, we've got these new, you know, boots that
are great in the mud. You don't have to touch the it has these
holes on the side of it to help you pull it up easily. None of
the dirt gets inside of it at all, because there's like a flap
on the inside. So, you know, we want you to create a logo that
shows something similar. And you're like, okay, cool. You
said boots holes got it, boom, create a logo handed to them.
And there you think I mean, if they're paying you 1000 bucks,
1500 bucks, you can't give them up some kind of indemnification
of trademark infringement for that kind of money. That's
crazy. That's low money.
That's like, if you want if you want trademark search, and
everything like that, here's a phone number, call this guy or
call this gal, they can do a trademark search. But I'm not
indemnifying it. And, and, you know, I can't swear behind their
legal work, because I'm not an attorney. I can tell you they've
been around for a long time. And they know what they're doing.
But you know, there's a party that I send people to. And it's
always good to you know, just, it's just good to make it clear
in your legal documents. When you when you start a project for
somebody, you should have an agreement. You shouldn't just go
out there creating stuff because of the stuff that you've all
learned about, as we've been together, people get sued for
copyright infringement, trademark infringement, patent
infringement, trade secret infringement. And you don't want
to be thinking, you know, Oh, well, I've been I've been over
here trying to pick up some extra hours, I got 1500 bucks
over here, 2000 bucks over there. And all of a sudden, I
get pulled into a lawsuit. It's like, I don't think so. It's
like, No, you know, so you want to have a legal document saying
that they understand that. And then that they indemnify you have
any issues, you know, if you can get it, most people will, if they
know what they're doing, most people won't sign an
indemnification against the original designer. I would never
do that. But you know, there's not a lot of people that know as
much as you guys do right now.
That's very awesome. Because I just got just like, okay, I need
you to design logos and build websites. So it's like the whole
package. So I was I was running, I was running, I was running, and
then your challenge dropped. So Holy Spirit was like, stop, you
know, it's so interesting. It's funny, because you're at least
the third person I heard that about, like, they literally were
going to build something. And they were told, don't. And then
they got drawn here. And I'm so grateful for that, because it
gives us an opportunity to help each other, you know, to make
sure that I mean, honestly, if we're getting downloads from the
Lord for bringing technology forward, you know, from the third
heaven into the first heaven, so that his wills manifest, this
stuff belongs to him, he doesn't want to messed up. So it's not
just about, hey, I don't want Peter to have a bad day. It's
like, hold it, I'm dropping something of importance down
here, I want to handle properly. So let's make sure that either
protection is there if it's needed, or, you know, some
Sometimes here's something that a lot of people don't think about.
Sometimes you receive an idea. The idea is not for you.
See what we, what we often think, we think to ourselves, Oh man,
I got this idea. Thank you, Lord. This is great. I'm going to run with this.
I'm going to build a company. I'm going to do this, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Maybe the idea is not for you. I mean,
one of the most important things is to actually be able to sit still,
hear his voice and know what to do. People take off. People literally go boom.
Second, they get an idea. They take off, they start building companies.
And then they wonder why 90% of the startups out there fail.
Were they called to build a company in the first place? Just because,
just because you run into a gold bar on the ground,
doesn't mean that you're supposed to convert it into currency and go buy a yacht
and a mansion, blah, blah, blah. The question is, well, why is that there?
Like what's going on? So when you get new ideas, right,
to take the spiritual aspect out of this, cause I know, I mean,
people here know that I'm a minister. So, you know, I go back and forth. So,
but the whole point being that, um,
if you get certain points or certain, certain ideas that come upon you,
right, you need to figure out what you're supposed to do with that.
That should be step number one. And if you have a relationship with the Lord,
then you should be sitting down with him and saying, Hey,
what do you want me to do with this? Am I supposed to give this to April?
Am I supposed to give this to Claudia or am I supposed to run with this and
build a company? Maybe I'm not supposed to run a company.
Maybe all I'm supposed to do is file a patent and license it and make millions
of dollars sitting at home, eating cheese doodles.
Maybe I wasn't supposed to build a $10 million infrastructure and start bringing
thousands of products to the public. Like you gotta think about these things.
Like why, what's the intent of having this? What am I supposed to do with it?
But now you actually understand how to protect it.
If you're supposed to protect in the first place,
because that's another question you're supposed to ask. So, you know,
it's on this last day, we start to go really, really deep.
So some people are like, what's going on here? Yup. We're going really deep.
All right. Um, Gladia. Oh, you're so welcome, Gladia.
Let me take a question from you.
And then my last question is going to be with Tim and then we will close.
Oh, before we go there,
before we go there, um, Gladia, just hold on for one second. Okay. Um,
I'm going to do something for all of you. There, there are a number of people,
there's a number of people who couldn't that,
that wanted to take the offer, couldn't take the offer, uh, right now,
but at the same time,
they want to be able to continue to have this kind of communication,
this kind of engagement. Um, so that just to be clear, that,
that does not mean sitting down with me one-on-one,
which we're doing in the offer.
That does not mean trademark search and application.
It doesn't mean getting a strategic plan. None of that's included. All right.
But what I decided to do is the protection portal alone,
which is where I go live for an hour and a half, once a month,
if you did not take the offer and you're interested in that and being in that
environment, I'm making that available for you for 24 95.
Okay. But that's again, just to be clear,
Oh, is she really? I just, I just want to be clear here though.
This does not mean one-on-one guidance. This does not mean legal advice.
This does not mean trademark searching does not mean trademark application.
So the people who took the offer have a very different deal.
That deal is pretty remarkable. All right.
And so I welcome all of you in and you're going to see in December,
we're going to start building this out. You're going to have strategic plans.
Then when you go into the network,
those people will have to be able to implement it and ask questions about their
own personal, you know, their own personal created strategic plan.
Right. Which is pretty incredibly powerful.
I wish I had that a long time ago for building a business that I was doing,
but in any case yep. It's an upfront, it's an upfront payment.
Can't wait for our one-on-one. Oh yeah.
We're going to have an incredible time with the one-on-one you'll see.
You'll see a number of people actually became clients that were,
they're actually looking back saying,
why didn't you have that offer before I came to your client?
It was like, cause I just thought of it and I just got my own law firm.
So it wasn't available back then. Now it is. So in any case I've got some clients
that actually want to take the offer. I don't know how I'm going to deal with that,
but in any case it's kind of, yeah. Divine timing. So, all right.
So with that we're going to drop the link.
Can you drop the link Ray?
Yes, I definitely just did. I'll drop it again.
Okay, great. So the way this.
works. Again, I go live once a month. You can email questions.
We review the questions live. I don't email you answers. This is
not the same as the offer, guys. All right. So it's not it's not
bad. It's incredible. That's what my offer used to be, which
is a protection portal, which is a lot of people go into that.
It just so happens that now I have the opportunity to provide
legal services. So I decided to add that which seemingly a lot
of people wanted because a lot of people took the offer. So if
you want to go into the network, though, network is incredibly
powerful. The people that are taking the offer are in the
network as well. That was thrown in for free for them. All right.
So you'll get live once a month, hour and a half, you'll get the
back end video storage facilities on tribe social. You'll
get the attorney network stuff. If I feel like if I feel like
you're a good fit with a certain person in a certain
country, I could do the introduction for you. Oh, one of
the best parts. I don't think I ever mentioned this, right? You
get to go into any protector idea challenge for free.
For the entire year.
Yeah, the entire year. So
as well, I have I have slides for them if you need to run
through it.
Yeah, well, I can do it really fast. You want to open it real
fast. Yeah, it's only gonna take one minute, guys, because we
kind of talked about the features before. But I wanted to
make this available to you because this class is very
unique. There's a lot of professionals in this class.
Like, this is not there's not a lot of dabblers, like people
who are just trying things out in here. There's, there's a lot
of professionals that have been literally doing things and
running companies and building things and need immediate
implementation and fine tuning. So it's, it's very, this group
is different. And so I'm very impressed by all of you. So I
want to make myself available for all of you. And the most
efficient way for me to do that for you, if you can't do the
offer, where I can work with you one on one is for you to go
into the network where you can get the benefit of other
people's questions. You can ask your own questions. We go live
just like we've been doing a VIP answering questions going back
and forth. There's no legal advice, though. There's no
legal advice, though. Okay, so. So that will not happen. There's
plenty of hydration, though, because we say that a lot in
that group, because people they come, they come trying to get
the answers, like, they're like, well, let's say,
hypothetically, you had this product. And hypothetically, you
had a client who hypothetically did this. I mean, it's their
exact scenario, you know, it's their scenario. And so you got
to be careful on the legal side. So you are very welcome. It's
law education. Yes, Felicia, it is law education. Just like if
you went to law school, there's the kind of stuff I would be
training you at, except you'd be paying $37,000 for three
months. So that's kind of different. So hopefully, does
that you guys like that? Does that help you out? This way you
have that available? Okay, good. So it's available for you. Now
you can do the the one pay or I think we have the three pay on
that Ray, right? So it's available right now. Okay. So
all right. And with that, Gladia, thank you so much for
being patient. Ray, did you pull up those things already?
This slide? Yeah, I have them. If you want me to screen share,
I can do that.
Just screen share real fast, just to make sure I didn't miss
anything on the portal. So I'm going to take one minute
literally. Because I know what the first few slides are
already.
All right, give me just a moment here. Everybody's gonna see that
I'm a tab monster. Hold on.
Yep, that's it.
Okay.
Yeah, not that the package is done.
When I apologize.
Bear with me. No, it's at the end of that. It's at the end of
that.
Oh, no, I I anticipated your generosity because I know you
and so I went and separated it while you were talking this whole
time.
Oh, you did? Wow.
I knew it was coming.
Okay.
All right. Is that it? Yep, that's the portal. Okay, so you
get one year membership from the day that you join. Okay, so you
would be joining now. And the next session would be in
December. So it would start the December, December session
through to December. So you get a full year of training. Okay,
so that's the first one go right ahead.
Yep, that we got already.
Next one.
Nope. Next one.
Okay, that's the access to your associates we mentioned that. Yep. So I make sure I didn't miss anything.
Yep, we talked about the email questions that's covered.
Yes, that's right. This is what we missed see I'm glad I'm glad we showed the video.
I'm glad we missed this is an important part. I'm the majority of the people who are in the protection portal actually pay for it themselves by just referring people into the challenge.
That's what they do. I mean, Jennifer alone is going to probably get a check for well over 1000 bucks from this last chance from the last one so I mean there's a lot of people who are who are affiliates.
When you go into the protection portal you get 20% of anyone you refer in so if they take the challenge.
As a matter of fact, it's actually better than the 560 because if they end up taking the offer it's 20% of that which would essentially be like 1000 and change you end up making almost 1200 bucks for one person.
Right. I mean it's just the offer is ridiculous so it's it's it's a good deal for you guys. If you have the opportunity. You can pay for your membership, just by becoming an affiliate, just sending a bunch of people over you'll pay for it right away so.
All right, let's close that up, and let me answer two more questions.
And then we'll close Claudia Thank you for your remarkable patience.
What can I do for you guys.
I have Peter Thank you again. Um, I mean I think you called me out because I think I was about to do what you said not to do.
I was going through the portal and I was just, I just feel a little overwhelmed I'm, I may be different from everybody here I just feel like I'm not really catching as quickly as I'd like to.
It's a lot of information great information though. Um, but I was looking up, even my logo name and I was seeing a lot of things that was saying live or dead.
Yeah, let me share with you.
And yeah, let me share that with you. It's a good question. So, two things. First of all, before I share the screen.
What you just said is exactly one of the major reasons why I created the protection portal, honestly, because we we've covered a good amount of material.
If you're in VIP, or are you in VIP or in a challenge or what challenge.
Just to challenge yourself right so here's the thing. By taking the challenge you have the videos for 30 days.
When people take the offer, not the offer gives you a full year the offers closed already. But if you take the protection portal you keep your videos for a full year.
So that means now the people who have taken the challenge can continue to review them. And as they have questions, they come into the protection portal with those questions like you're doing now.
And they can do that over a full year, literally, it's like you can take it drip by drips like I've got 10 minutes to study it now I've got a half hour tomorrow.
Like I can go through this, I've got, I'm not really understanding this, this logo thing like I, what if, what if, like half the word is there is that an issue.
Okay, you're in the network. I mean once you're in the network it's like you can bring your questions in as the year goes through and that's, that's why I created that is because it is IP is it's some of its logical some of it is highly illogical.
Like, you know, the idea of common law trademark rights.
Like most people just wouldn't even think of that most people when they get a cease and desist letter to stop.
But what if you actually had more rights than the person who just got a federal registration.
That's amazing. And even separate from that, you know, you do a search for for corporate names with the Secretary of State everybody thinks it's clear.
I just told you it's not.
I just said well you got to go out there and do a search of trademarks not business names, you know, and corporate lawyers are getting that wrong. Lawyers, Gladia, lawyers are getting this wrong.
I mean that's that's a big problem so that's why we have this network so you can continue to learn from each other.
Ask questions engage grow together so everybody succeeds. We're not here just about ourselves. We're here to make sure everyone succeeds. So let me share my screen.
So that's why we put that why we put that offer out there.
And let me go back a little bit here.
Let me turn off the image list. All right, you see right down here where it says dead World Basketball Festival.
Dead.
Okay. There it is right there. Okay. If I click on that. Oh, all right. So here's another thing.
You guys have now experienced the thing that frustrates me the most about the USPTO website.
If you don't do anything for a certain amount of time, they lock you out. So now you got to go
back. I mean, it's not that difficult. You just go back to the beginning, hit trademarks, hit search,
start all over, because they only allow so many people to search at the same time.
Um, so now you start over and you do Nike as the owner and let's say, uh, do it, do it.
Now, some might say, well, what about just do it? You search, do it, then, uh, do it is broader
than just do it. Right. So everything that says just do it should show up if I look for do it.
Right. So make query C there's all the just do it. So when you're searching out there,
just to go through this one last time, when you're searching out there, make sure that
when you're searching, you're not searching, you know, the, just the whole thing. Cause if
you search just the whole thing, you might include somebody else's trademark inside your trademarks.
Like if somebody had a registration for do it for sneakers, then when Nike came out with just
do it for sneakers, they would infringe, right? So there you go searching for just do it. And
you don't realize that there's a do it out there and you can infringe upon their trademarks. That's
a complex issue I just explained, but you got the video so you can watch it. So you search for
submit, you submit, and there's some dead trademarks. You click on that one. You look down
here and it says status dead, be dead. Now, what does that mean? Does somebody want to jump in here
and explain what that means? Let's see if, see if anybody knows, I'm going to let somebody else
speak for a moment. Anybody want to take a chance on this one? Good Teresa. Teresa, how are you? I
didn't even know you were here. It's good to see you. Teresa's actually in the portal. It's so good
to see you. I'm good. Oh, oh, you're muted. You're muted. There you go. So it means that their thing
ran out, right? That's exactly. That is the legal terminology. The thing ran out. That is in the
statute. 35 USC section says the thing ran out. That's what it says. No, that's exactly right.
The thing ran out. So their trademark ran out. And so with that, it's so good to see you, Teresa.
You too, everybody. All right. So over here where it says dead,
that just means that either they didn't renew it, or it means that they filed an application,
they didn't get a registration. But if you, what you can do is click on this. For those of you
who are like adventurous, you can click on this TSDR. When you click on the TSDR, you can look
and see why it went abandoned. And down here it says registration canceled because registration
did not file an acceptable declaration under section 8. So it tells you that they didn't
renew it. So that's why they didn't get it. So there's a lot of really good information
on the USPTO website and it's free. But there's multiple Nikes that has live and dead. Like,
how do you know, like which one is overlapping? Which one, like, why is there so many different
ones? Because when I was searching for mine, this is like very similar to this, just do it search
that we're doing here. That I'm, that I'm so confused that I'm like, maybe I shouldn't even
use the word at all in my, it may be the case. And so this is, again, there's why I'd say,
if you see a lot of things that are similar, you definitely want to get somebody involved.
But what I would do personally is I click on like each one and I look at them and I say,
oh, hair accessories. I'm not doing hair accessories. I'm doing sneakers. Like that's
not even close. But now I look at the next one, I click on it and it says retail stores. Okay.
And I go to the next one. Like I look at them one by one, see what they're on.
So the goods and services is really what I should pay attention to because I'm doing more like
coaching and things like that. Not really. Yeah. And a lot of the coaching stuff,
if I remember correctly, I think coaching is predominantly in class 41, but you got to look
it up. You got to, you got to matter of fact, I wonder if I could do that really fast. Let's see.
International class for coaching international trademark, trademark internal class for coaching.
Services.
To 41.
Oh, 41 Come on.
Okay, I'm getting corny right now so there you go.
Okay, there you go so that's that's that's so how would I search for this in the, in the USPTO, or like what are you.
Claudia.
Are you asking me to search for your exact trademark right now is that what you're asking me. I mean if you.
This is not legal advice. No, can't do that. No, ain't happening.
No, no, I wouldn't want to get nobody in trouble. Basically, when you do when you do your searches, like we look at the words then we look at the goods and services, and we look at all those all those elements to determine whether or not there's a
confusion like we look at them all one by one by one, every single one of them.
And then we do an analysis because lawyers and the courts they do this balance test like you see, Lady Justice right she's like blind.
Standing there with the scales, the scales of justice and so you like you have some of the factors on one side some of the factors on the other side and you look to see where the scale falls and typically if, if
the deal breakers are sound the same looks the same. Those are like the biggest ones sounds the same looks. If you have sound the same looks the same and similar goods or services dead.
Don't don't even pass go don't collect your $200. You don't even get to play Monopoly anymore. You got to go play backgammon or part easy because you're done with the game is over.
All right, that's literally what happens in those situations so Tim let me take your question I'm going to close because we've been an hour and 20 minutes already.
So, go right ahead. Yeah, just real quick.
So do you have affiliates or people you know that would do a trademark or logo design that would meet the qualifications to sign a clause that they wouldn't let full pay until trademark was confirmed.
I don't know if George does that there's a guy, there's a guy I work with, I have to check and see if he was smart enough to do that or not, but he's a really good designer, so I can check around and see if I know guys that will do that.
But it's basically the people that go through this course.
Most of them, they just won't pick up the liability they don't want it. Right, like, you know, I mean it's just bad practice if you're a designer why in the world are you dealing with the law, like, it's just, it's not wise, you know it's, but I'll tell you this much,
if you do, like there are design corporations that you know you go for an original work and they do searches and things like that and Ray we should probably Tim asked a good question we should probably put our heads together and figure out which ones are out there to do that.
I was already mapping that we need to make a network. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That'd be good. We'll make that available to the people in the portal, like, yeah, yeah, it's a good idea.
And so, yeah, so we tend to drop like a lot of resources in the portal for people and they get first crack at stuff that comes up offers things like that so you'll see you're in the portal, you'll see what it's like.
So for all of you that so all of you that actually take this offer or took the original offer on Wednesday this week, we're going to be live at seven to seven, I think it's seven o'clock.
I think it's 7pm, just to do an introduction to introduce all of you to the other people.
I had 12pm. Yeah.
Really in the middle of the day, like a normal portal meeting, but if you want me to adjust it I can notify it changes to 7pm because, okay, yeah, I'm not doing middle of the day.
Yeah, I'm like, I'm closing a law firm and opening a law firm it's not happening at 12 o'clock.
So let's change it to 7pm at night so then my European friends it's midnight there but
one o'clock depends on where you are so.
All right. With that, my friends.
I'm just going to pray us out. I just want to pray over people's businesses. If you don't believe in prayer that's right just accept good wishes.
And so if I hear anything as I'm praying, then I will reveal.
And this is kind of a tradition that we've done.
And so, yeah, so I just want to open up, open up the floor for that so yeah Lord we just want to take them. Just take this moment to honor you.
Thank you for every single person that you brought here.
We just bless you, we thank you for every idea that comes upon us.
We thank you for providing clarity as to how to use them.
Partnerships, I'm seeing a lot of stuff in partnerships, so Lord I thank you for divine
revelation on who to partner with.
Sometimes we're not supposed to go forward in ventures alone, so I thank you for clarity
on who we're supposed to partner with, Lord.
Financial partners, I'm seeing that as well, so Lord I thank you for divine intervention
so we know who are the financial partners, and I thank you, Father God, for ease and
grace in the process.
Lord, we just lift up all the businesses that are represented here, everything that is intended
to serve you.
Father, I ask that your touch will be upon it.
I ask for clarity of mind, wisdom, and discernment.
We ask for, Lord, you say that if we desire wisdom, we can simply ask, and you provide
it freely, Lord.
So we seek your wisdom to apply the giftings that you've provided for us, for your glory
to help those around us, and even ourselves and our families.
Lord, I ask that every word that was spoken that's aligned with you would fall upon good
soil, that fruit would grow, that there would be divine manifestations, Lord, of your glory
in business, and Father, anything that was not aligned, Lord, that anything that was
off in any way, that it would just be forgotten.
Father, I thank you for the power of the people that you've brought together, the network,
and all that you're creating, and I ask that we never forget that a main focus is upon
you, Jesus, and that you receive glory and not us.
I'm seeing a lot of stuff in the area of partnerships.
So if you're in an area where you're building up a business right now, and you're contemplating
a partner right now, just by a show of hands, how many people are in that area right now?
Yeah, there's a lot of them.
Okay.
All right.
Yeah, I would just say, present it to them, bring their name before the Lord, and just
ask them, is this the right person?
Is this the right season?
Season, that's another part.
Is this the right timing, the right season to work together as partners on this?
Because you know what happens is when God bestows blessings upon us, it's not just about
us.
Like we, by all means, you know, we're wonderfully, fearfully made in his image.
He loves us.
He cares about us.
He knows the number of hairs upon your head.
He has more thoughts about you than the number of grains of sand upon the earth, right?
At the same time, Father, Son, Holy Spirit, a single blessing.
The way I look at it is when a single blessing comes, I see there should be at least three
things associated with it.
We understand the three are one, but I always look for more than one.
Because what we typically do is we look and we see one thing and we stop and we're like,
Oh my gosh, that's incredible.
And we throw it on Facebook.
And that's not what we're supposed to do.
When you start to see revelation coming to you, stay still, don't move.
Don't move.
You can be excited, but don't move.
Don't move until the revelation stops flowing.
Don't move.
And if it stops flowing, dig in more.
Say I'm not moving until I get more.
Dig in more.
We're not in a season right now where you can kind of just waste 10 years.
We don't have 10 years to waste anymore.
So you stay planted.
You dig in more.
You ask for more and you receive.
And then you ask, don't forget to ask, what do I do with this?
Don't forget to ask what I do with this because we have our own thoughts of what to do with
things.
And what I'm just kind of hearing and feeling is that your greatest thoughts don't even
measure up to his toes.
Like literally, you think, oh my gosh, this is so huge.
I'm going to do this, this, this, and this.
And it's like a fraction of a fraction of what he has in mind.
And so if you start moving, by all means, you can start moving, but just stay involved
with him.
Just hear his voice and press forward doing that as opposed to just going forward what
you believe is supposed to happen.
to be built. You can go forward with what you believe is supposed to be built and he'll
celebrate it, he'll be happy for you, but you're not going to see the fullness of it.
You know, people got really excited when they saw a bicycle and they said, whoa, I can go
from point A to point B, but somebody realized that you can take that bicycle and use it
inside of a power plant, use that same gear system to create power.
It's the same system. So there's a lot more, there's a lot more that we're leaving on the
table. We don't realize it. We're not seeing it fully. Like I didn't even see it when I started
this up. I didn't, I didn't realize it was going to be another law firm. I didn't realize there
was going to be all these other things that are coming from this, these, these networks and these
connections and all these other things. I never saw that. I saw, let me mentor a few people,
but he can do way more if we just let him, but you got to hear him. So
and I just speak to any fear, Lord, I thank you for just shutting the door to fear.
The word says you don't give us a spirit of fear, but of power, love, and a sound mind
says to be anxious over nothing, but in everything, bring our prayers and petitions to you
at Thanksgiving. You provide a peace that goes beyond all understanding. Fear is trespassing.
It's not of our kingdom. It's not our God. We worship God. We worship Jesus. We don't worship
fear. What we focus on is what we're worshiping. We focus on God. So I just thank you for peace.
I just bless everyone here, Father. I ask that there,
that there will be clarity for them. I ask for dreams and visions that people will be able to
hear you clearly, and that they will be brave enough to follow what you're calling them to
do because some of the things you're calling them to do does not, just does not make sense.
And for that reason, we know that you'll receive the glory.
Amen. That's awesome. I like that last part. That's so good. Amen.
All right. Bless all you guys. You can unmute now. Just kind of say goodbye. Bye.
Blessings to your daughters.
Thank you. Thank you very much. I appreciate that. Thanks so much.
Wow. That was one bonus session, man. That was good.
That's awesome. That's awesome.
I think this has been my favorite.
Oh, it's good. I'm telling you, the people here, it's, I mean, each group is unique.
Oh, yeah. Every group is.
But man, just so many people would experience here. It's just like real life experience,
which is what you want. These become like the senior leaders.
The level of focus that this group has is so inspiring.
Absolutely. All right. I'm going to let you guys go. Have a wonderful evening.