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So, we're going to cover a few things today, but the main thing I'm going to hit is the

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searching of logos.

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And the reason why I wanted to cover this is because it's different, like it's different

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from the normal searching that's out there.

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And so, I'm going to show you the searching of logos, but I'm going to start out with

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the searching that we've done before, right?

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So, just so everybody gets a quick refresher on a normal search, then we're going to jump

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right into searching logos, okay?

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This way, you guys will have one replay that kind of covers it all, right?

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This way, you're not like, oh, where's the replay for, you know, normal searching?

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That's on day two, and in VIP, they did this, and in the class, they did that.

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So, now you got one video now that does normal searching, and then one for logo.

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I wasn't going to do that, but then I thought, that'd be really cool to have one video for

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everything.

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So, this way, we go, hey, Natalie, how are you?

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I love the color.

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That's a perfect purple.

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I love that.

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Now, let's see.

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All right.

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So, let me go to the USPTO website.

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Okay.

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So, let me share my screen.

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Pow.

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All right.

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So, fair warning, before I start sharing screens, okay?

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Fair warning, okay?

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So, this is our last day together, so things are probably going to get off the handle,

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like there may be moments that are not very professional, like jokes that just nobody's

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going to understand.

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Like, it's one of those kind of days, all right, just so people know it's kind of like

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in between withdrawal, but enjoying your presence at the same time.

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So, we'll see how it works, all right?

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But you know, we're just going to dig in here, just so you guys know.

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All right.

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So, here we go.

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We're going to go to the USPTO website.

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Let's turn over there.

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There it is.

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Bam.

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All right.

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Now, it's up.

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USPTO website.

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Everybody should know this site by now, which is awesome.

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USPTO.gov.

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All right.

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So, right here, you click on trademarks.

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You click on searching trademarks.

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So, and again, you can click on this link here or you can click on this link there.

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It doesn't matter.

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They both do the same thing.

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They're both in the same place.

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All right.

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So, these are your search options.

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Option number one, behind door number one, we have a basic search.

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Under the basic search, you have multiple options.

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Option number one is you can search for a word.

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Option number two, you can search for a serial number or registration number.

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And option number three, you can search for an owner name or address.

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All right.

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So, those are your three different searches there.

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Okay.

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But the problem with all this is that there's not a lot of options.

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Like, I like more options.

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Like, I don't know about you guys, but see, when I go out to eat, my wife goes crazy sometimes because I'm very particular.

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Like, when I order, I don't order off the menu.

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Like, I order one thing and then I modify it and modify it.

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That's probably why I like option number two.

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Option number two, you can order pepperoni.

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You can get onions.

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You can get chicken.

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You can get anything you want on this.

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Like, every single option is under option number two.

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So, this is why I like option number two.

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So, let me just go through this real quick.

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I doubt anybody is ever going to use an abandonment date, affidavits, assignment recorded, attorney of record, basic index, coordinated class, cancellation date, change in registration.

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Maybe you'll do a current basis that's really like live or dead or section 1A or 1B.

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Decimal mark, you're not going to use.

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Today, we're going to talk about description of the mark.

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So, everything up to here, I'd say nobody's going to use any of this, most likely.

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I'll use it every once in a while.

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Like, if I'm looking for a certain attorney to see what they've done on a case, I might look up their name.

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Like, you can look up my name if you're really bored.

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You just look up my name and do a query and see that there's like 532 different records of different trademarks that I have.

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And I recognize all of these.

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Yep.

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These are all mine.

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This was a weird one.

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Milky foot.

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This object, this product is actually supposed to make your foot smooth.

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But I wouldn't have named the product Milky Foot, just personally.

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I'm just saying.

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It's a large corporation, too.

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They came out with a product called Milky Foot.

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I didn't think that was a good idea.

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So, now, if you go down to the ones that we will use.

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You could use full mark, but if you use full mark,

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you're looking only for that exact word

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and not that word plus anything else, right?

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So you're just gonna get, if you search,

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if you're trying to find Microsoft Excel,

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if you search for the word Microsoft alone,

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you're not gonna get Microsoft Excel.

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You're just gonna get Microsoft alone.

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Cause that's saying that what you typed in is the full mark.

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That's why it says full mark, right?

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Goods and services, we've talked about that before.

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Every trademark application has a recitation of goods

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or recitation of services,

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depending upon if the trademark's used

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for goods or services, okay?

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International class, we talked about that.

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I gave you the link to figure out

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what international class your products are,

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your products or services are provided in.

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Like class 41 is associated with online training,

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which is one of the things that we've been doing.

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So that's certainly one that people will be using

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if they're using their, your trademarks

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for challenges where you're training other people, right?

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International registration number,

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you're probably not gonna know that when you search.

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Live or dead, that basically just says,

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is the case alive or dead?

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That was really tough.

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Mark drawing code, you're not gonna know the drawing code.

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Mark index, you're not gonna know that.

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mark punctuated work and non-punctuated work.

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This is the one I use the most,

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non-punctuated word mark, right?

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So if I have like Microsoft Excel,

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I'll select non-punctuated word mark,

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then I'll type over here, Microsoft Excel.

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Somebody told me what I did just now that's wrong.

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Unmute yourself and tell me what I did that was wrong,

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out of what I just typed.

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You didn't capitalize.

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Yes, somebody said it, no parentheses.

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You wanna do parentheses

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because if you don't do parentheses,

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then what you're gonna get is every single instance

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of the word Microsoft

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and every single instance of the word Excel,

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whether they're together or not.

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You want them together, you gotta put the quotes around.

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Quotations.

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Right, quotes, quotations, quotes.

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Isn't that the same thing, quotes?

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Not as parentheses, you said parentheses.

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Well, somebody else said parentheses.

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I knew what they meant.

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I was gonna say wrong, you're wrong.

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I knew what they meant.

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We all knew what they meant.

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Oh yeah, kudos to them.

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Then I said parentheses, see?

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You have to affirm people.

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That's how they participate.

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I'm loving, loving, loving it all.

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Otherwise they just won't answer.

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So, you know, you're like, you ask them a question,

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the answer is dog, and they're like octopus.

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Well done, that is the answer.

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It is a furry dog, well done.

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All right, so now, here we go to the next one.

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The no with their head approach.

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Yes, exactly.

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That one doesn't work well.

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All right, so non-punctuated mark works very well.

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Original filing basis, that's like,

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you're not gonna deal with that.

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Other data, nah.

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Owner's name, you may use owner's name.

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if I'm looking for all the trademarks by Susie Carter,

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because she's been buying them all up,

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and we all know that she's gonna become a billionaire,

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then I just type in her name.

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And so that's all.

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You type in owner name and then type her name, okay?

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The tricky thing though with names

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with a middle initial versus like a middle,

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a whole like middle name, it can get tricky.

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So you might wanna search like first name and second name.

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You might wanna do that.

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So the way you would do that is you would type in like Peter

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and then come over here and go down to owner name

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and then do and, and then type in the bottom Nieves

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and then go over to owner name and submit query.

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So you got like protection portal, challenge whisperer

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and my other trademark, see?

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They're all there.

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And if you guys are actually trying to figure out

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a really good recitation of services for challenges,

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I give you permission hereby,

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cause you are here.

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I give you permission to copy mine, okay?

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I did a lot of homework to find the right word sequence

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for challenges, educational services,

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namely conducting online courses, classes, seminars,

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workshops, conferences, mentorship

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in the field of business marketing and advertising.

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And then I kind of break it down to online courses.

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I break it down to a lot of different degrees.

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Even providing group coaching in the field of

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blubbery, blubbery, educational services

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in the field of blubbery, blubbery.

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I mean, I hit it at many different blubbery, blubbery.

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the angles so so if you want that you have permission matter of fact you know what I can do

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you know copy

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this is going to be really big if I throw this in the chat but I'll throw it in there

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and you know I think I'll do oh no it won't paste copy maybe it's too big for the chat

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yeah it's too big for a chat so I'll go into the Facebook page right now while we are

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discussing this and I'll paste it for all you guys does this help you guys you guys that are

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in challenges yeah okay so now you know what recitation of goods you can use I'll just type

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in exemplary recitation of goods no recitation of services for class 041 associated with challenges

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control v wow that's long post okay now you guys got it it's in the Facebook group

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you can copy it all you want uh looks like it's posting there it goes okay so let me

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stop sharing my screen and share again so that you're all seeing the same screen that I'm on

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okay so let me go back now

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okay so we just saw owner's name I'm going down a little bit more name and address

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if you're trying to send somebody a Christmas card I guess uh next one priority date uh you're

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not really going to well priority date is going to tell you when an individual started using a

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trademark right so you want to the problem is you're likely not going to search for that exact

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date because you're not going to know the priority date on somebody's trademark if you don't know the

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trademark so I doubt that you're going to use that field physical filing date doubt that you'll

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look for that one pseudomark you're not going to do that published opposition not going to do that

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prior registrations nope registration date doubt it renewals register registration number nope nope

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uh nope nope nope nope type of mark perhaps in US class so most of these you're not going to use

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okay again the main ones just one last time the main ones you're going to use

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are description of mark which we're going to talk about

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um you're like you may use full mark if you want to search just for the exact same mark

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goods and services you're definitely going to use international class you'll likely use

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a non-punctuated word mark you'll likely use and you could look for the owner's name as well

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um the other ones doubt they use any other any other ones okay all right so that right there

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that is how you do a normal trademark search okay um let me take one minute here to see if

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before I jump in does anybody have any questions on a normal trademark search

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I'll take up to two if there are any doesn't look like there are any yes Teresa go ahead

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can you leave those as an inheritance to your children or grandchildren

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that's not a that's not a trademark search question oh so sorry never mind that's a asset

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question so um I mean just to answer your question IP is an intangible asset you can by

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all means transfer all right title and interest to anybody just like you would a chair or a car

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or a house so you can you can most certainly do that yeah does anybody thank you so much

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oh you're so welcome now anybody have a question on search at all I wanted to know about my own

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bible trivia what a twist game event would that be um it's not a challenge but it's an actual

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event that I host um is this a question on trademark searching yeah but what's your question

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oh okay I have my game which is one name but then I have an event that I host which is bible trivia

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what a twist game day so that's a service then right so that would that would be a trademark

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I would do a trademark for it yes that's a good question guys okay so let me break this down

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because there'll be situations where people have a product but then they have a service that uses

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the product right right right lots of people have that so you have this product then there's also a

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service provider product so let's say you have like um a car washing kit that you sell but you

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also own a car washing

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thing. What do you call carwashing things? Carwashing place. Yeah, that's it. That's

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the technical term for the day. Station. Thank you, Larissa. Carwashing station. Yeah, that's

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what we'll call it. Okay. So the product itself is in one international class. The service

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for washing cars would be in another international class. So if I had like a game board, I would

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have the game itself would be in one international class. And then the providing of, or the making

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of, or the, yeah, so the providing of games to others is different. They're different

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classes because if you're providing games that you're not locked to the specific game,

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you're, you're in the service of providing games. The game itself is locked into exactly

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what the game is. So the two international class. Tim, you had a question.

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Yeah. So on some of my searches, I just click all and it, I do get a lot of information,

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but am I, is that limiting other stuff or causing a problem within the search? You said

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you click all. Let me see. Like I leave it on all and then I do get like what it appears

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to be. Oh yeah, yeah. But it gives me all the other information. That's a great question,

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Tim. All right. Let me show you guys what that means, what he's, what he's talking about.

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So share screen. Boom. All right. So instead of looking at owner name, he's just keeping

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it at all. So here's the, here's the issue. Let's say, say, say you look for the word

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Nike, right? If I search, if I search for the term Nike, let me get rid of this, and

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turn that to or, all right. If I search for the term Nike here and I say all, that means

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the trademark could be Nike. It could be every, everything owned by Nike as an owner. It could

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be anything that even mentions Nike, like the Greek God Nike. Everything's going to come up.

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If I want just the trademarks that are, that have Nike in it, then I'm going to want to

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go down to non-punctuated word mark. Does that make sense, Tim? Okay. All right. All right. Now

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let's do what everybody came here for. I want to do that refresher first. So you have one video

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now that's going to have normal searches. And now what we're going into, which is slightly more

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complex. So let's go Nike as the owner. I'm just going to do a quick search for Nike as an owner

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and 942 trademarks. Oh my goodness. That's a lot. All right. Now remember how I showed you,

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you can hit the image list up here. Everybody remember this button? Click on that. There's a

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whole bunch of different trademarks, right? Okay. So now as I look through these sneakers,

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some of which are registered, some of which are not registered,

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you go down to this. Here's a good example. This is a logo, right? It says Air Jordan.

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It's a logo. So if I click on that, whoop, not there. Sorry. On the number. Okay.

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It tells you that it's a design mark. And this is a 1B. When was it filed? Oh, that means,

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wow, there's a trademark that they have intent to use, but they actually have not used it yet

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in interstate commerce. So you guys are seeing before Air Jordans are actually using this in

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the market, you guys are seeing it now. So that's pretty cool. All right. So you see right over here

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See that there? Design search code. So there's that. And then there's also over here. Description

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of mark. See that there? Okay. Let me start with the description of the mark.

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Every design, when you file a trademark application on a design, you have to identify it. Like you

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have to describe the logo. Okay. So everybody who files a trademark application must describe

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their trademark. They described this thing here with the basketball, with the wings,

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with the Air Jordan above it. They described it by saying the mark consists of a design of

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a basketball with wings on the left and on the right and the right of the basketball with the

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words Air Jordan above the basketball. Right. That's how they described that mark. Okay.

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So now the question is, how exactly could I, if I was searching, how exactly would I find that mark?

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So the USPTO website allows you to search

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so you can search for Nike there and then you can search over here for let's say wings

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and under wings you would go to

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description of the mark see that when you click and

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Nike now when you click over here there it is you see that so what I basically just showed you is

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that every logo that is filed is going to have a description here's the problem you've got to come

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up with the exact words or the right words to actually search for the logo that's the tricky

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part so you're gonna have to look at this thing you know some people you some of you might look

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at this thing and go that looks like a bunch of mushrooms that are growing on the back of a fence

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you know I mean you know you may not think well those are wings I mean hopefully everybody looks

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at that and says that's a basketball but somebody might say well that's a volleyball it doesn't even

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look like a volleyball but if you're wrong you're not going to come up with a logo so you have to

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come up with the exact words that are that are used by the party who filed the trademark application

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okay so in this case it's easy the way I would do is I would say what are the obvious features

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there's a basketball and the word Air Jordan those are clear

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clear things so whenever I search for a logo if there's words in it

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I don't know if you guys can hear that but my bird's having a blast over here for some reason

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I don't know why we can hear it can you she's really happy all of a sudden

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all right you can go play go play she just got really happy all of a sudden all right so what I

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would search for when you're searching for logos is I would search for the prominent things that's

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definitely a basketball that's definitely the word Air Jordan so if there's ever a word in a logo I

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would search for the words because the words will always be identified when somebody files the

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trademark so if I go back here and I search just like let's say Air Jordan like that

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but remember you got to put the quotes in so if I search like that and see if we get it yep there it

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is Air Jordan and there's the words Air Jordan see so if if I instead wanted to search for let's say

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let's say the Nike Swoos would just just do it somebody tell me how I should search

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somebody tell me how I should swoos for that somebody tell me how I should search for that

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how should I search for the Nike Swoosh with just do it

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you will put the

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check mark maybe in the search term the second box you could do that sure you could do that

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sure you could do that you could type in um

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swoosh swoosh as a description of the mark and here you've got

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looks like looks like there's only two that came up for that so let's see if we could find another

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I'll show you how I would do it let me show you how I would do it I would search for

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just do it

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and Nike that's what I would do

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oh doesn't even come up just do it description of the mark

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and owner doesn't come up submit query doesn't come up that's interesting

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so what if you just see if you do home description of the mark

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let me just check one thing real quick on the images

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no there's the Nike with the swoosh see this is this is why I tell you that when you actually go

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and use this it's not 100 like I've been doing this for 25 years and you see how just do it

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didn't pop up so if I've been doing this forever and it doesn't pop up right away then you got to

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think about that so what I would do is I would go all the way to like Tim said just go to all

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submit the query now I've got everything that has just do it on it see

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do you see what I just did so so the system was so sensitive when I looked for

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the description of the mark that it didn't come up right now I can also look

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instead of description of the mark, I can also look at,

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see if I could find it.

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Design description, look at that.

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I doubt it'll be there either.

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See, it's not there either.

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So what I do when it's being overly sensitive,

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but I'll actually establish a barrier

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by going really broad and then come in from it.

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So by clicking all, like Tim said,

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I get everything that has Just Do It

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and that's associated to Nike,

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regardless where those words Just Do It show up.

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And when I do that, I click on image list,

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I get Just Do It.

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So those are different trademarks with Just Do It on it.

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So that means to me, when I look at this,

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this means to me that the registration for Just Do It

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by Nike is not part of their logo.

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So that means they registered Just Do It alone

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and they registered the swoosh alone.

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But when they filed their trademark application,

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they'd included a swoosh, would just do it underneath

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as a specimen to prove that it was used,

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even though they didn't file for the swoosh,

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would just do it underneath.

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And the reason why you would never file for,

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and I explained this to all of you on day,

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I think it was day two,

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when we talk about trademark applications.

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The reason why I wouldn't file for the swoosh

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would just do it on their loan

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as one trademark applications,

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because if you use the swoosh alone without the Just Do It,

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then somebody is gonna argue that they don't infringe

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because you filed for the swoosh with Just Do It.

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And then if I filed for Just Do It alone without the swoosh,

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then somebody can claim,

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well, I just used Just Do It.

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I'm sorry, I just used the swoosh,

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in which case they don't infringe.

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So the way that I would file a trademark application

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that has a logo, which has a design element,

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and it also has a words,

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is I would actually file for the words separate

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and I would file for the design separate.

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But when you file for the design separate,

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you could always use a specimen

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that shows the design with the words,

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because it has at least the design.

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That's a little tricky,

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but your lawyer should understand what I just talked about.

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So the only thing that you need to realize

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is if you have a trademark that has a logo

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and it has words, make sure you cover both.

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And I don't mean in one application.

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I would file one for the words

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and I would file one for the design.

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That's the way I would do it.

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That would get you the broadest coverage.

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So nobody can come out and just use one alone.

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Let's see.

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I have a question and it really does apply.

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All right, hold on.

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Jennifer has her hand raised.

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So Jennifer, go ahead.

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Yeah, hey, Peter.

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So how in-depth do you have to be

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when you're doing a search by description?

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Because as you said, if I file, it's a basketball

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and it's got whatever underneath it,

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then Nike might come up.

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But if I draw and mine has something to do with the seashore

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and I describe those same little things

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as those are seashells and a beach ball,

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that drawing is not gonna come up

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because that's not under the description.

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And yet if I make something similar to that,

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even if it doesn't say Air Jordan,

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am I still violating the design in that sense?

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You know what I mean?

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Yeah, I hear you.

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You would never know.

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Right, it's a good question.

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It's a good question.

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So like, and this is why it's important

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to use professionals to do this, honestly,

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because like if John Umstead was here right now,

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he'll tell you that after I see somebody

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do their own search,

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when they come down to the exact trademark that they want,

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I tell them to do an official search

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with like a Thomson Reuters or a Syrian search

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because they don't just search for words,

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they search by codes.

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And so when they're searching by codes,

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they're searching classifications

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and they're not just looking for the word wings,

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like they're getting everything

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and you get a book that's like four or 500 pages thick,

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then you can look through and see everything there

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and determine whether or not

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there truly is an infringement issue.

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So with that being the case,

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your question is a very good one.

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And I think the general answer for that

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is if you are doing an online search

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using the USPTO website,

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realize that it's only like I said before,

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maybe 60% efficient,

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but it helps you knock out the obvious stuff.

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So if you have like five or six or seven

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different potential trademarks,

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you should be able to knock out a good five of them

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pretty easily to come down to two,

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then you can.

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get somebody who really knows what they're doing

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to dig in more.

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But what I would do in the search

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is I would take the things that just can't be mistaken.

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Like in that design there, that's a basketball.

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That's pretty obvious.

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Those things that we call wings,

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somebody may look at that and say,

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that looks like crown molding.

479
00:30:22.080 --> 00:30:24.760
Honestly, it looks like three layers of crown molding,

480
00:30:24.760 --> 00:30:26.080
like progressive layers.

481
00:30:26.080 --> 00:30:29.120
So maybe this is interior design for basketball players.

482
00:30:29.160 --> 00:30:30.600
Like, I don't know.

483
00:30:30.600 --> 00:30:32.680
So I mean, for that reason,

484
00:30:32.680 --> 00:30:36.880
I would take the most obvious prominent things.

485
00:30:36.880 --> 00:30:40.080
And when I look at this, I see Air Jordan.

486
00:30:40.080 --> 00:30:41.520
There's a chance that those words

487
00:30:41.520 --> 00:30:43.360
will be in the description.

488
00:30:43.360 --> 00:30:45.600
And when I look down at the description here,

489
00:30:46.720 --> 00:30:49.640
it says it right there with the words,

490
00:30:49.640 --> 00:30:52.400
Air Jordan above the basketball.

491
00:30:52.400 --> 00:30:54.400
And that's in the description of the mark.

492
00:30:54.400 --> 00:30:55.840
So for that reason,

493
00:30:56.360 --> 00:31:00.320
I would just go for the most obvious things.

494
00:31:00.320 --> 00:31:04.400
And then look at your results from there.

495
00:31:04.400 --> 00:31:06.240
Like when we're doing searches,

496
00:31:06.240 --> 00:31:07.800
if you only get two results,

497
00:31:09.240 --> 00:31:12.920
I would think, okay, cool, that's great.

498
00:31:12.920 --> 00:31:16.320
But then I dig deeper, meaning I would go broader.

499
00:31:16.320 --> 00:31:19.020
Okay, so like if I'm looking,

500
00:31:19.020 --> 00:31:20.480
let's say I'm looking for Air Jordan.

501
00:31:20.480 --> 00:31:23.760
Somebody might not spell Air as A-I-R.

502
00:31:23.760 --> 00:31:28.760
It might be A-I-R-E, or it might be H-E-I-R, Air Jordan.

503
00:31:30.920 --> 00:31:34.120
And remember, that sounds the same as Air Jordan.

504
00:31:34.120 --> 00:31:35.200
So when you're looking,

505
00:31:35.200 --> 00:31:39.760
let's say somebody has Air Jordan as H-E-I-R Jordan,

506
00:31:39.760 --> 00:31:41.560
and they're using it for sneakers.

507
00:31:41.560 --> 00:31:44.840
Well, that could be trademark infringement.

508
00:31:44.840 --> 00:31:49.200
If it's similarly priced, if it sounds the same,

509
00:31:49.200 --> 00:31:54.200
if the logos look the same, same place of sale,

510
00:31:55.000 --> 00:31:57.480
same educational level of the consumer,

511
00:31:57.480 --> 00:32:00.640
the only difference is that they're spelled differently.

512
00:32:00.640 --> 00:32:03.200
And so you may run into a trademark infringement issue.

513
00:32:03.200 --> 00:32:05.960
So it's kind of a long way to say,

514
00:32:05.960 --> 00:32:10.960
find the most predominant features, search those,

515
00:32:12.120 --> 00:32:13.840
and hopefully you find stuff

516
00:32:13.840 --> 00:32:16.260
that becomes easier to follow.

517
00:32:17.240 --> 00:32:18.880
But it's not bulletproof.

518
00:32:19.560 --> 00:32:20.880
Even if I'm in a totally different category,

519
00:32:20.880 --> 00:32:22.520
like let's just say my words above that

520
00:32:22.520 --> 00:32:26.920
don't say Air Jordan, but they say beach volleyball.

521
00:32:26.920 --> 00:32:27.760
I don't know, or whatever.

522
00:32:27.760 --> 00:32:29.480
Or basketball architecture, right?

523
00:32:29.480 --> 00:32:32.080
Even if it is a basketball, it's basketball architecture.

524
00:32:32.080 --> 00:32:33.760
Like you said, that's crown molding.

525
00:32:33.760 --> 00:32:34.920
That's how I drew it.

526
00:32:34.920 --> 00:32:37.240
I'm still though, my logo,

527
00:32:37.240 --> 00:32:40.040
if I've especially drawn it similar enough to that,

528
00:32:40.040 --> 00:32:42.400
someone could still take issue with the fact that,

529
00:32:42.400 --> 00:32:44.880
yeah, okay, you're in architecture.

530
00:32:44.880 --> 00:32:47.400
However, your drawing is still similar enough.

531
00:32:47.480 --> 00:32:48.320
Yes.

532
00:32:48.320 --> 00:32:49.480
Can't be doing that.

533
00:32:49.480 --> 00:32:50.320
Okay.

534
00:32:50.320 --> 00:32:51.160
Absolutely.

535
00:32:51.160 --> 00:32:53.960
And that's the analysis that you do,

536
00:32:53.960 --> 00:32:57.200
which I mentioned for a likelihood of confusion

537
00:32:57.200 --> 00:32:58.960
to determine whether or not there's a potential

538
00:32:58.960 --> 00:33:00.760
for trademark infringement.

539
00:33:00.760 --> 00:33:05.240
That's that analysis that I went through on day two.

540
00:33:05.240 --> 00:33:07.480
So that's what I would...

541
00:33:07.480 --> 00:33:10.280
It's not a...

542
00:33:10.280 --> 00:33:12.640
Using a free online system

543
00:33:12.640 --> 00:33:14.060
is gonna save you a lot of money.

544
00:33:14.060 --> 00:33:14.900
Absolutely.

545
00:33:14.900 --> 00:33:17.300
When you find things that are exactly knock things out.

546
00:33:18.200 --> 00:33:19.320
But at the end of the day,

547
00:33:19.320 --> 00:33:22.080
you do need, you should bring it to a professional.

548
00:33:22.080 --> 00:33:24.480
Once you're done, and that's gonna bring your costs down

549
00:33:24.480 --> 00:33:26.600
to like a quarter of what they would have been,

550
00:33:26.600 --> 00:33:27.700
had you not done that.

551
00:33:28.640 --> 00:33:29.540
April, go ahead.

552
00:33:31.920 --> 00:33:32.760
Thanks.

553
00:33:32.760 --> 00:33:34.040
I was just gonna ask, what is the cost

554
00:33:34.040 --> 00:33:36.360
for running one of those deeper searches

555
00:33:36.360 --> 00:33:37.680
like the Thompson Reuters?

556
00:33:37.680 --> 00:33:38.600
Great question.

557
00:33:38.600 --> 00:33:43.040
Everybody who actually did take the offer,

558
00:33:43.040 --> 00:33:44.900
surprise, you're getting one.

559
00:33:45.840 --> 00:33:47.000
It's actually included.

560
00:33:48.240 --> 00:33:50.520
It's $835.

561
00:33:50.520 --> 00:33:51.360
Okay.

562
00:33:51.360 --> 00:33:54.480
So that cost is in there.

563
00:33:54.480 --> 00:33:55.300
Excellent.

564
00:33:55.300 --> 00:33:56.140
Thank you so much.

565
00:33:56.140 --> 00:33:57.480
Yeah, you're very welcome.

566
00:33:57.480 --> 00:33:58.400
That's awesome.

567
00:33:58.400 --> 00:33:59.240
Yeah.

568
00:33:59.240 --> 00:34:00.360
So there's...

569
00:34:01.920 --> 00:34:04.160
But there's, again, their searches are amazing.

570
00:34:04.160 --> 00:34:05.720
Like they're so good.

571
00:34:06.720 --> 00:34:09.760
It's just, they'll find anything.

572
00:34:09.760 --> 00:34:12.080
They'll find federal registrations,

573
00:34:12.080 --> 00:34:15.699
state registrations, business names, online websites.

574
00:34:15.699 --> 00:34:18.400
They'll find URLs.

575
00:34:18.400 --> 00:34:21.300
They'll find other businesses.

576
00:34:22.699 --> 00:34:23.679
It's really good.

577
00:34:23.679 --> 00:34:25.120
They do a great job.

578
00:34:25.120 --> 00:34:25.960
Okay.

579
00:34:25.960 --> 00:34:29.159
Let me just see if anybody else has any other questions

580
00:34:30.159 --> 00:34:32.840
on what we just went over.

581
00:34:37.920 --> 00:34:38.760
Was there a hand?

582
00:34:38.760 --> 00:34:39.600
Teresa, did you have your hand up?

583
00:34:39.600 --> 00:34:40.420
There you go.

584
00:34:40.420 --> 00:34:41.260
Yeah, go ahead, Teresa.

585
00:34:42.260 --> 00:34:43.440
Okay.

586
00:34:43.440 --> 00:34:48.440
So I designed my logo on Brand Crowd, which is a website.

587
00:34:49.000 --> 00:34:52.400
And I have the option to, let me lower my hand.

588
00:34:53.920 --> 00:34:55.520
I have the option to purchase it

589
00:34:55.520 --> 00:34:57.640
and so it'll be taken off Brand Crowd

590
00:34:57.640 --> 00:35:00.180
and no one can have it anymore.

591
00:35:00.000 --> 00:35:02.160
All right, let me ask you a question first.

592
00:35:02.160 --> 00:35:06.360
So you said you purchased the trademark off a grand crowd,

593
00:35:06.360 --> 00:35:07.480
is that what you said?

594
00:35:07.480 --> 00:35:11.040
Brand, B-R-A-N-D, brand, crowd.

595
00:35:11.040 --> 00:35:13.160
So it's a place that you go to buy trademarks.

596
00:35:13.160 --> 00:35:14.600
I designed a logo.

597
00:35:16.340 --> 00:35:18.400
You designed the logo or they do?

598
00:35:18.400 --> 00:35:20.800
I did, I designed it.

599
00:35:20.800 --> 00:35:22.120
On their site?

600
00:35:22.120 --> 00:35:22.940
Yeah.

601
00:35:22.940 --> 00:35:23.780
Okay.

602
00:35:23.780 --> 00:35:24.760
That's what they do.

603
00:35:24.760 --> 00:35:26.720
You pick out the logo that you want

604
00:35:26.720 --> 00:35:29.200
and you design it how you want.

605
00:35:29.200 --> 00:35:30.680
And so I did that.

606
00:35:30.680 --> 00:35:32.640
I haven't purchased it yet

607
00:35:32.640 --> 00:35:36.760
because I was gonna find somebody on Fiverr to change it.

608
00:35:36.760 --> 00:35:41.040
But would it be better to purchase it directly from them?

609
00:35:41.880 --> 00:35:42.840
Well, let me just,

610
00:35:42.840 --> 00:35:44.760
I wanna make sure that I get some clarity here.

611
00:35:44.760 --> 00:35:46.980
So you said you designed,

612
00:35:46.980 --> 00:35:49.280
but then you said you purchased it.

613
00:35:49.280 --> 00:35:51.840
No, I designed it.

614
00:35:51.840 --> 00:35:54.360
I designed it and I was going to purchase it,

615
00:35:54.360 --> 00:35:56.800
but I don't know what level to purchase it at.

616
00:35:57.240 --> 00:36:00.600
I can purchase it and then allow them to keep

617
00:36:00.600 --> 00:36:01.720
giving it to other people,

618
00:36:01.720 --> 00:36:05.940
or I can purchase it and it only exclusively belongs to me.

619
00:36:05.940 --> 00:36:06.780
Sure.

620
00:36:06.780 --> 00:36:09.320
So let me just ask you a follow-up question, right?

621
00:36:09.320 --> 00:36:11.760
So when you say, I designed it,

622
00:36:13.200 --> 00:36:15.680
when we look at the terms, I designed it,

623
00:36:15.680 --> 00:36:16.960
that can mean you go on

624
00:36:16.960 --> 00:36:19.240
and you use computer software to create something,

625
00:36:19.240 --> 00:36:21.320
or that can mean you give them a description

626
00:36:21.320 --> 00:36:22.800
and they create it.

627
00:36:22.800 --> 00:36:23.640
That's right.

628
00:36:23.640 --> 00:36:24.460
That's what I did.

629
00:36:24.460 --> 00:36:25.300
And they're the owner.

630
00:36:25.300 --> 00:36:26.740
I changed the colors, they own it.

631
00:36:27.580 --> 00:36:28.420
Then they're the owner.

632
00:36:28.420 --> 00:36:29.240
Okay, got it.

633
00:36:29.240 --> 00:36:30.740
So now we understand they are the artists,

634
00:36:30.740 --> 00:36:33.140
even though you gave them the idea,

635
00:36:33.140 --> 00:36:35.340
they're the artists, therefore they hold the copyright.

636
00:36:35.340 --> 00:36:37.100
So now the question is,

637
00:36:37.100 --> 00:36:39.140
should I own it outright or should I license it?

638
00:36:39.140 --> 00:36:40.480
Is that what you're asking?

639
00:36:40.480 --> 00:36:44.620
Yeah, like if I pay them to own it outright,

640
00:36:44.620 --> 00:36:47.420
then do I need to pay to trademark it?

641
00:36:47.420 --> 00:36:49.620
Like I'm confused, I'm sorry.

642
00:36:49.620 --> 00:36:51.140
Yeah, you gotta check with the company,

643
00:36:51.140 --> 00:36:53.320
but there's not a lot of companies out there

644
00:36:53.320 --> 00:36:56.340
that when you buy a trademark from them,

645
00:36:56.860 --> 00:36:58.260
they're either A, gonna do a trademark search,

646
00:36:58.260 --> 00:37:00.140
or B, gonna file a trademark application.

647
00:37:00.140 --> 00:37:00.980
That's extreme.

648
00:37:00.980 --> 00:37:03.500
I don't know companies that will do that

649
00:37:03.500 --> 00:37:07.420
just when you hire them to do a design.

650
00:37:07.420 --> 00:37:10.560
Because number one, they don't want the liability.

651
00:37:11.980 --> 00:37:14.120
They don't wanna pick up the liability

652
00:37:14.120 --> 00:37:17.300
where you pay them believing that

653
00:37:17.300 --> 00:37:19.300
you have a trademark that's clear,

654
00:37:19.300 --> 00:37:20.560
and then all of a sudden you get sued

655
00:37:20.560 --> 00:37:22.140
for trademark infringement.

656
00:37:22.140 --> 00:37:24.260
No designing company wants that liability.

657
00:37:24.260 --> 00:37:25.340
They're not lawyers.

658
00:37:25.340 --> 00:37:26.620
They don't want that.

659
00:37:26.620 --> 00:37:30.580
And so chances are extremely high

660
00:37:30.580 --> 00:37:33.140
that they are not gonna give you a trademark search

661
00:37:33.140 --> 00:37:34.300
or a trademark application.

662
00:37:34.300 --> 00:37:39.020
Now, I hired a marketing company for a lot of money,

663
00:37:39.020 --> 00:37:41.220
lot, a lot of money, right?

664
00:37:41.220 --> 00:37:44.060
They came up with a design for something in particular.

665
00:37:44.060 --> 00:37:46.660
I asked them if they did a search, they said, no.

666
00:37:46.660 --> 00:37:48.660
I said, then why would I pay you a penny

667
00:37:49.620 --> 00:37:54.260
to obtain rights to a thing that you're giving me

668
00:37:54.260 --> 00:37:56.580
that might walk me into trademark infringement?

669
00:37:56.580 --> 00:37:57.580
They didn't have an answer

670
00:37:57.580 --> 00:38:00.700
because they just don't work that way.

671
00:38:00.700 --> 00:38:01.980
Because they don't think that way.

672
00:38:01.980 --> 00:38:05.740
You do now, obviously, because now you understand,

673
00:38:05.740 --> 00:38:06.840
you wanna make sure that your logo

674
00:38:06.840 --> 00:38:08.100
doesn't potentially infringe.

675
00:38:08.100 --> 00:38:10.180
So what are the conditions I would have

676
00:38:10.180 --> 00:38:14.620
if you go to a designer for creating a trademark,

677
00:38:14.620 --> 00:38:16.580
like a trademark logo for you,

678
00:38:16.580 --> 00:38:20.180
I'd say, hey, before I pay X, Y, and Z,

679
00:38:20.180 --> 00:38:22.100
I wanna know that that logo

680
00:38:22.100 --> 00:38:23.860
is clear of trademark infringement.

681
00:38:24.540 --> 00:38:27.420
That's gonna whittle down very quickly

682
00:38:27.420 --> 00:38:28.540
the number of parties

683
00:38:28.540 --> 00:38:31.900
that you're gonna be able to work with to obtain a logo.

684
00:38:31.900 --> 00:38:35.300
Because only the ones that are really high-end that are,

685
00:38:35.300 --> 00:38:38.380
you know, I mean, even GoDaddy doesn't do a search.

686
00:38:38.380 --> 00:38:41.120
Like they created some logo for me,

687
00:38:41.120 --> 00:38:45.620
which I thought was hideous when I first, sorry,

688
00:38:45.620 --> 00:38:48.900
when I first created a website a long time ago.

689
00:38:48.900 --> 00:38:51.620
And when I looked at that thing, I thought, ugh.

690
00:38:51.620 --> 00:38:53.220
But then I asked them, I said, just curious,

691
00:38:53.220 --> 00:38:54.620
did you guys do a trademark search?

692
00:38:54.620 --> 00:38:57.540
And they said, no, we don't do trademark searches.

693
00:38:57.540 --> 00:39:01.860
So you're essentially charging us a lot of money

694
00:39:01.860 --> 00:39:02.860
to come up with a logo

695
00:39:02.860 --> 00:39:05.060
that could potentially walk me into a lawsuit.

696
00:39:05.060 --> 00:39:06.420
Is that right?

697
00:39:06.420 --> 00:39:07.420
They had no answer.

698
00:39:08.440 --> 00:39:11.100
So it's your job to figure that out.

699
00:39:11.100 --> 00:39:13.540
So what I would do is,

700
00:39:13.540 --> 00:39:16.100
honestly, if you see a logo that you really like,

701
00:39:16.100 --> 00:39:18.840
I would say to them, look, my purchasing of that logo

702
00:39:18.840 --> 00:39:21.560
is conditional upon my getting a trademark search done,

703
00:39:21.560 --> 00:39:23.840
confirming that it's actually clear

704
00:39:23.840 --> 00:39:25.200
of trademark infringement.

705
00:39:26.120 --> 00:39:28.080
And then if you find out that it's clear,

706
00:39:28.080 --> 00:39:29.400
then by all means, you can buy it.

707
00:39:29.400 --> 00:39:30.540
But why would you buy something

708
00:39:30.540 --> 00:39:32.000
that you don't know is clear?

709
00:39:32.880 --> 00:39:35.700
Well, previous people might have already purchased it,

710
00:39:35.700 --> 00:39:38.400
but didn't purchase the rights to have it completely.

711
00:39:39.600 --> 00:39:40.440
Oh, yeah.

712
00:39:40.440 --> 00:39:42.960
Well, I mean, if it's a trademark,

713
00:39:42.960 --> 00:39:45.000
if it's a trademark that somebody else purchased

714
00:39:45.000 --> 00:39:47.200
the rights to have it completely,

715
00:39:47.200 --> 00:39:49.560
which means they had an assignment of all rights,

716
00:39:50.240 --> 00:39:53.480
over to them, then it shouldn't be available for you to buy.

717
00:39:53.480 --> 00:39:54.640
Yeah, that's right.

718
00:39:54.640 --> 00:39:57.000
I mean, you can buy it

719
00:39:57.000 --> 00:39:59.800
and then let other people have it as well.

720
00:40:00.000 --> 00:40:02.480
but once you purchase the total rights to it,

721
00:40:02.480 --> 00:40:03.940
you have it completely.

722
00:40:05.560 --> 00:40:08.960
But that doesn't stop the previous people

723
00:40:08.960 --> 00:40:11.120
before you having rights to it.

724
00:40:11.120 --> 00:40:12.440
Do you see what I'm saying?

725
00:40:12.440 --> 00:40:14.000
Yeah, I see exactly what you're saying.

726
00:40:14.000 --> 00:40:17.040
And I think what you want to make sure of,

727
00:40:17.040 --> 00:40:18.840
Teresa, is you want to ask them,

728
00:40:18.840 --> 00:40:20.320
you want to say, look,

729
00:40:20.320 --> 00:40:21.680
I don't want you giving me a logo

730
00:40:21.680 --> 00:40:25.160
that you licensed to somebody else, period.

731
00:40:25.160 --> 00:40:27.720
I don't care if you had it for, you know,

732
00:40:27.720 --> 00:40:29.940
the latest line of frog legs

733
00:40:29.940 --> 00:40:31.880
that are being sold at a delicatessen.

734
00:40:31.880 --> 00:40:32.920
I don't care what it is.

735
00:40:32.920 --> 00:40:35.920
Like, I don't want a logo

736
00:40:35.920 --> 00:40:37.920
that where rights went over to somebody else.

737
00:40:37.920 --> 00:40:39.880
I want an original.

738
00:40:39.880 --> 00:40:41.440
That's what you need to tell them.

739
00:40:41.440 --> 00:40:42.800
Okay, so it might be better for me

740
00:40:42.800 --> 00:40:45.080
to pay somebody on Fiverr to change it.

741
00:40:46.480 --> 00:40:49.400
Well, even if you paid somebody on Fiverr to change it,

742
00:40:49.400 --> 00:40:50.920
I mean, there's a few issues, right?

743
00:40:50.920 --> 00:40:55.640
Number one, if I go to Fiverr with a logo

744
00:40:55.640 --> 00:40:56.880
that somebody else owns,

745
00:40:56.880 --> 00:40:59.800
then I'm modifying what somebody else owns,

746
00:40:59.800 --> 00:41:02.200
and I don't have the right to create a derivative work.

747
00:41:02.200 --> 00:41:05.600
That infringes upon the original copyright owner's trade,

748
00:41:05.600 --> 00:41:08.680
the original copyright owner's ownership rights.

749
00:41:08.680 --> 00:41:13.280
The only one who can modify a design is the original owner.

750
00:41:13.280 --> 00:41:15.880
That's called the derivative.

751
00:41:15.880 --> 00:41:18.400
You would essentially walk into copyright infringement

752
00:41:18.400 --> 00:41:21.280
if you modify an original by giving it to Fiverr.

753
00:41:21.280 --> 00:41:22.840
If you go over to them and say,

754
00:41:22.840 --> 00:41:25.040
hey, this is a logo that I think is owned,

755
00:41:25.240 --> 00:41:27.160
by such and such, can you modify it?

756
00:41:27.160 --> 00:41:29.200
Boom, copyright infringement.

757
00:41:29.200 --> 00:41:30.800
Immediately, the second they start working on that,

758
00:41:30.800 --> 00:41:32.280
that's copyright infringement.

759
00:41:34.720 --> 00:41:37.720
See, this is why, what you want to make sure you do,

760
00:41:37.720 --> 00:41:39.400
a lot of people got stumped right away.

761
00:41:39.400 --> 00:41:42.280
When I just said that, a lot of people went,

762
00:41:42.280 --> 00:41:43.520
literally, though.

763
00:41:43.520 --> 00:41:45.520
So this is what I would do, everyone.

764
00:41:45.520 --> 00:41:49.040
What I would do is when you go to someone to create a logo,

765
00:41:49.040 --> 00:41:52.240
I would say to them, I want an original logo,

766
00:41:52.240 --> 00:41:54.240
meaning I don't want to license something

767
00:41:54.240 --> 00:41:56.320
that somebody else has rights to.

768
00:41:56.320 --> 00:41:58.480
I don't want something that you've given to somebody else.

769
00:41:58.480 --> 00:42:00.360
I want an original work.

770
00:42:00.360 --> 00:42:02.640
And when you create that original work,

771
00:42:02.640 --> 00:42:04.160
before I actually purchase it,

772
00:42:04.160 --> 00:42:06.360
I want to make sure that that doesn't commit

773
00:42:06.360 --> 00:42:10.360
trademark infringement upon other parties' marks.

774
00:42:10.360 --> 00:42:15.120
So therefore, you're going to provide me with a sample

775
00:42:15.120 --> 00:42:16.840
of what you're thinking of doing,

776
00:42:16.840 --> 00:42:20.480
and I'll go out and I'll have a trademark search done.

777
00:42:20.480 --> 00:42:22.720
Then when I get the results of that search,

778
00:42:22.720 --> 00:42:26.280
if it's clear, then you can proceed to finalizing

779
00:42:26.280 --> 00:42:29.480
the design and tweaking the design or whatever you need,

780
00:42:29.480 --> 00:42:31.240
because I know that it's clear.

781
00:42:31.240 --> 00:42:34.040
But by all means, I'm not going to spend 1,000 bucks,

782
00:42:34.040 --> 00:42:37.040
2,000 bucks, sometimes 5,000 bucks,

783
00:42:37.040 --> 00:42:39.680
getting a quote-unquote original logo

784
00:42:39.680 --> 00:42:42.440
that you licensed to somebody else,

785
00:42:42.440 --> 00:42:45.200
where I essentially am using something

786
00:42:45.200 --> 00:42:46.440
that someone else has rights to,

787
00:42:46.440 --> 00:42:51.120
or a situation where I buy all rights out of an interest

788
00:42:51.160 --> 00:42:53.200
and I'm committing trademark infringement.

789
00:42:53.200 --> 00:42:54.920
Like, that's not happening.

790
00:42:56.200 --> 00:42:58.920
So that's being smart in business.

791
00:42:58.920 --> 00:43:00.960
And now all of you understand that.

792
00:43:00.960 --> 00:43:05.400
So whenever you go to a party to create your logos,

793
00:43:05.400 --> 00:43:08.240
to create your websites, create your designs,

794
00:43:08.240 --> 00:43:11.400
ask them those questions, like right out of the bat.

795
00:43:11.400 --> 00:43:13.560
Ask them, you know, is this an original work?

796
00:43:13.560 --> 00:43:15.440
And they say, oh yeah, it's an original.

797
00:43:15.440 --> 00:43:17.120
I say, let me rephrase.

798
00:43:17.120 --> 00:43:20.880
Have you licensed this design to anyone, yes or no?

799
00:43:21.640 --> 00:43:24.000
And if they say yes, to me,

800
00:43:24.000 --> 00:43:25.640
that makes me stop immediately.

801
00:43:26.680 --> 00:43:28.400
I say, okay, well, that's a problem.

802
00:43:28.400 --> 00:43:29.960
I want an original work.

803
00:43:30.960 --> 00:43:32.320
And if they say, okay, yes,

804
00:43:32.320 --> 00:43:35.520
I'll agree to create original work for you, fantastic.

805
00:43:35.520 --> 00:43:37.240
When you create a draft of it,

806
00:43:37.240 --> 00:43:38.840
I'm going to have a trademark search done

807
00:43:38.840 --> 00:43:40.400
because I need to make sure,

808
00:43:40.400 --> 00:43:43.360
before I buy that work from you,

809
00:43:43.360 --> 00:43:44.880
I have to make sure that it's clear

810
00:43:44.880 --> 00:43:46.360
of trademark infringement.

811
00:43:46.360 --> 00:43:50.680
Unless your company was willing to give me indemnification,

812
00:43:51.480 --> 00:43:53.240
if I ever get sued for trademark infringement,

813
00:43:53.240 --> 00:43:55.920
and they'll say, no, no, we'll never do that.

814
00:43:55.920 --> 00:43:57.080
I say, of course you won't do that.

815
00:43:57.080 --> 00:43:59.640
So we're going to do a search to make sure it's clear.

816
00:43:59.640 --> 00:44:03.800
Once it's clear, then we can go into the finalization phase

817
00:44:03.800 --> 00:44:05.400
and I can pay you for the mark.

818
00:44:06.920 --> 00:44:09.640
Until such time, no deal.

819
00:44:10.760 --> 00:44:14.080
Now you're going to go from literally thousands

820
00:44:14.080 --> 00:44:16.800
or 10,000s of potential people you can work with

821
00:44:16.800 --> 00:44:19.040
on Fiverr and all these other places

822
00:44:19.080 --> 00:44:21.160
and a couple of people that are professionals

823
00:44:21.160 --> 00:44:24.560
that can come out with something that is an original work

824
00:44:24.560 --> 00:44:26.560
that will not result into you running

825
00:44:26.560 --> 00:44:28.200
to trademark infringement issues.

826
00:44:29.400 --> 00:44:31.160
It'll weed them out very quickly.

827
00:44:32.360 --> 00:44:37.360
Any other questions on, oh yes, Songbird Rogers.

828
00:44:38.200 --> 00:44:39.040
Tweet, tweet.

829
00:44:41.840 --> 00:44:44.480
She just opened up a can for me because-

830
00:44:45.400 --> 00:44:47.160
And being a Songbird, that was perfect.

831
00:44:47.160 --> 00:44:48.640
All the worms are out, go get them.

832
00:44:49.240 --> 00:44:50.080
There you go.

833
00:44:50.080 --> 00:44:53.800
I just, I probably about a few months ago,

834
00:44:53.800 --> 00:44:55.800
I created a logo.

835
00:44:55.800 --> 00:44:56.640
Okay, yeah.

836
00:44:56.640 --> 00:44:58.960
So now I am a logo designer.

837
00:44:58.960 --> 00:44:59.800
So for me-

838
00:45:00.000 --> 00:45:06.040
me, right? God is awesome. So for me, do I need to do

839
00:45:06.520 --> 00:45:10.560
trademark searches when I'm creating logos?

840
00:45:10.800 --> 00:45:15.280
That's a great question. So if I am starting a business as a

841
00:45:15.280 --> 00:45:19.760
graphic designer, right? Like one of my daughters is just

842
00:45:19.800 --> 00:45:25.880
remarkably gifted in in. She can look at something and draw the

843
00:45:25.880 --> 00:45:29.040
exact thing. I mean, it's just she's such an incredible

844
00:45:29.040 --> 00:45:33.600
artist. And so she started she actually created one of my logos.

845
00:45:33.960 --> 00:45:40.480
She was the original creator of that, right? And so if you're

846
00:45:40.480 --> 00:45:44.800
going to start a company, where you are, this is what I would

847
00:45:44.800 --> 00:45:46.920
do. This is what I would do. All right. All right. Here's the

848
00:45:46.920 --> 00:45:50.080
first one for the day. This is not legal advice. Okay. The

849
00:45:50.080 --> 00:45:56.920
first one for today. But this is what I would do. If I were

850
00:45:56.920 --> 00:46:00.840
starting a company, making logos for other people, I'd have an

851
00:46:00.840 --> 00:46:05.840
agreement that says to them, we are in no way, shape or form

852
00:46:06.400 --> 00:46:10.160
liable for any copyright infringement, trademark

853
00:46:10.160 --> 00:46:14.120
infringement, and you hereby indemnify us of any cause of

854
00:46:14.120 --> 00:46:17.040
action brought by a third party for trademark infringement or

855
00:46:17.040 --> 00:46:22.400
copyright infringement. Because that's not what we do. We're not

856
00:46:22.400 --> 00:46:24.840
doing that. If you want to do that, here's some people you can

857
00:46:24.840 --> 00:46:29.440
call, you know, and they will do a trademark search for you. But

858
00:46:29.440 --> 00:46:32.960
my job is to be the creative, like I am the create the person

859
00:46:32.960 --> 00:46:36.600
who is a creative individual, I can tell you that I'm not

860
00:46:36.600 --> 00:46:41.360
grabbing something that I already know exists. But I don't

861
00:46:41.360 --> 00:46:44.240
know if it exists. I've never done a trademark search. That's

862
00:46:44.240 --> 00:46:49.040
not my job. My job is to create some you say, hey, you know,

863
00:46:49.040 --> 00:46:54.080
we've got these new, we've got these new, you know, boots that

864
00:46:54.080 --> 00:46:59.000
are great in the mud. You don't have to touch the it has these

865
00:46:59.000 --> 00:47:02.000
holes on the side of it to help you pull it up easily. None of

866
00:47:02.000 --> 00:47:04.880
the dirt gets inside of it at all, because there's like a flap

867
00:47:04.880 --> 00:47:09.360
on the inside. So, you know, we want you to create a logo that

868
00:47:09.360 --> 00:47:11.800
shows something similar. And you're like, okay, cool. You

869
00:47:11.800 --> 00:47:15.200
said boots holes got it, boom, create a logo handed to them.

870
00:47:15.880 --> 00:47:19.720
And there you think I mean, if they're paying you 1000 bucks,

871
00:47:19.720 --> 00:47:24.800
1500 bucks, you can't give them up some kind of indemnification

872
00:47:24.800 --> 00:47:27.400
of trademark infringement for that kind of money. That's

873
00:47:27.400 --> 00:47:29.440
crazy. That's low money.

874
00:47:31.200 --> 00:47:35.400
That's like, if you want if you want trademark search, and

875
00:47:35.400 --> 00:47:38.640
everything like that, here's a phone number, call this guy or

876
00:47:38.640 --> 00:47:41.720
call this gal, they can do a trademark search. But I'm not

877
00:47:41.720 --> 00:47:46.360
indemnifying it. And, and, you know, I can't swear behind their

878
00:47:46.360 --> 00:47:48.800
legal work, because I'm not an attorney. I can tell you they've

879
00:47:48.800 --> 00:47:51.240
been around for a long time. And they know what they're doing.

880
00:47:51.240 --> 00:47:55.000
But you know, there's a party that I send people to. And it's

881
00:47:55.000 --> 00:47:58.560
always good to you know, just, it's just good to make it clear

882
00:47:58.560 --> 00:48:02.640
in your legal documents. When you when you start a project for

883
00:48:02.640 --> 00:48:05.800
somebody, you should have an agreement. You shouldn't just go

884
00:48:05.800 --> 00:48:09.840
out there creating stuff because of the stuff that you've all

885
00:48:09.840 --> 00:48:13.360
learned about, as we've been together, people get sued for

886
00:48:13.360 --> 00:48:15.880
copyright infringement, trademark infringement, patent

887
00:48:15.880 --> 00:48:18.760
infringement, trade secret infringement. And you don't want

888
00:48:18.760 --> 00:48:21.840
to be thinking, you know, Oh, well, I've been I've been over

889
00:48:21.840 --> 00:48:24.480
here trying to pick up some extra hours, I got 1500 bucks

890
00:48:24.480 --> 00:48:27.320
over here, 2000 bucks over there. And all of a sudden, I

891
00:48:27.320 --> 00:48:32.400
get pulled into a lawsuit. It's like, I don't think so. It's

892
00:48:32.400 --> 00:48:35.960
like, No, you know, so you want to have a legal document saying

893
00:48:35.960 --> 00:48:40.440
that they understand that. And then that they indemnify you have

894
00:48:40.440 --> 00:48:44.560
any issues, you know, if you can get it, most people will, if they

895
00:48:44.560 --> 00:48:46.400
know what they're doing, most people won't sign an

896
00:48:46.400 --> 00:48:49.640
indemnification against the original designer. I would never

897
00:48:49.640 --> 00:48:53.600
do that. But you know, there's not a lot of people that know as

898
00:48:53.600 --> 00:48:55.000
much as you guys do right now.

899
00:48:56.680 --> 00:49:00.480
That's very awesome. Because I just got just like, okay, I need

900
00:49:00.480 --> 00:49:06.000
you to design logos and build websites. So it's like the whole

901
00:49:06.000 --> 00:49:11.720
package. So I was I was running, I was running, I was running, and

902
00:49:11.720 --> 00:49:16.680
then your challenge dropped. So Holy Spirit was like, stop, you

903
00:49:16.680 --> 00:49:20.600
know, it's so interesting. It's funny, because you're at least

904
00:49:20.600 --> 00:49:23.120
the third person I heard that about, like, they literally were

905
00:49:23.120 --> 00:49:28.160
going to build something. And they were told, don't. And then

906
00:49:28.160 --> 00:49:31.640
they got drawn here. And I'm so grateful for that, because it

907
00:49:31.640 --> 00:49:34.440
gives us an opportunity to help each other, you know, to make

908
00:49:34.440 --> 00:49:37.240
sure that I mean, honestly, if we're getting downloads from the

909
00:49:37.240 --> 00:49:40.640
Lord for bringing technology forward, you know, from the third

910
00:49:40.640 --> 00:49:44.120
heaven into the first heaven, so that his wills manifest, this

911
00:49:44.120 --> 00:49:47.360
stuff belongs to him, he doesn't want to messed up. So it's not

912
00:49:47.360 --> 00:49:50.640
just about, hey, I don't want Peter to have a bad day. It's

913
00:49:50.640 --> 00:49:53.200
like, hold it, I'm dropping something of importance down

914
00:49:53.200 --> 00:49:57.200
here, I want to handle properly. So let's make sure that either

915
00:49:57.200 --> 00:50:00.120
protection is there if it's needed, or, you know, some

916
00:50:00.000 --> 00:50:03.120
Sometimes here's something that a lot of people don't think about.

917
00:50:03.600 --> 00:50:07.480
Sometimes you receive an idea. The idea is not for you.

918
00:50:08.600 --> 00:50:11.840
See what we, what we often think, we think to ourselves, Oh man,

919
00:50:11.840 --> 00:50:15.480
I got this idea. Thank you, Lord. This is great. I'm going to run with this.

920
00:50:15.480 --> 00:50:17.800
I'm going to build a company. I'm going to do this, blah, blah, blah, blah.

921
00:50:18.280 --> 00:50:20.400
Maybe the idea is not for you. I mean,

922
00:50:20.720 --> 00:50:23.400
one of the most important things is to actually be able to sit still,

923
00:50:23.400 --> 00:50:28.560
hear his voice and know what to do. People take off. People literally go boom.

924
00:50:28.800 --> 00:50:32.560
Second, they get an idea. They take off, they start building companies.

925
00:50:32.880 --> 00:50:36.080
And then they wonder why 90% of the startups out there fail.

926
00:50:36.920 --> 00:50:41.640
Were they called to build a company in the first place? Just because,

927
00:50:41.960 --> 00:50:45.760
just because you run into a gold bar on the ground,

928
00:50:45.760 --> 00:50:49.360
doesn't mean that you're supposed to convert it into currency and go buy a yacht

929
00:50:49.880 --> 00:50:53.400
and a mansion, blah, blah, blah. The question is, well, why is that there?

930
00:50:53.400 --> 00:50:56.640
Like what's going on? So when you get new ideas, right,

931
00:50:56.840 --> 00:51:00.080
to take the spiritual aspect out of this, cause I know, I mean,

932
00:51:00.080 --> 00:51:03.360
people here know that I'm a minister. So, you know, I go back and forth. So,

933
00:51:03.600 --> 00:51:06.440
but the whole point being that, um,

934
00:51:06.560 --> 00:51:11.800
if you get certain points or certain, certain ideas that come upon you,

935
00:51:12.280 --> 00:51:15.240
right, you need to figure out what you're supposed to do with that.

936
00:51:16.120 --> 00:51:19.560
That should be step number one. And if you have a relationship with the Lord,

937
00:51:19.560 --> 00:51:21.880
then you should be sitting down with him and saying, Hey,

938
00:51:22.600 --> 00:51:25.800
what do you want me to do with this? Am I supposed to give this to April?

939
00:51:25.800 --> 00:51:29.480
Am I supposed to give this to Claudia or am I supposed to run with this and

940
00:51:29.480 --> 00:51:31.880
build a company? Maybe I'm not supposed to run a company.

941
00:51:32.120 --> 00:51:35.560
Maybe all I'm supposed to do is file a patent and license it and make millions

942
00:51:35.560 --> 00:51:38.640
of dollars sitting at home, eating cheese doodles.

943
00:51:40.000 --> 00:51:44.080
Maybe I wasn't supposed to build a $10 million infrastructure and start bringing

944
00:51:44.080 --> 00:51:47.960
thousands of products to the public. Like you gotta think about these things.

945
00:51:47.960 --> 00:51:52.280
Like why, what's the intent of having this? What am I supposed to do with it?

946
00:51:52.680 --> 00:51:54.920
But now you actually understand how to protect it.

947
00:51:55.760 --> 00:51:57.720
If you're supposed to protect in the first place,

948
00:51:57.720 --> 00:52:01.400
because that's another question you're supposed to ask. So, you know,

949
00:52:02.080 --> 00:52:04.720
it's on this last day, we start to go really, really deep.

950
00:52:04.720 --> 00:52:08.880
So some people are like, what's going on here? Yup. We're going really deep.

951
00:52:09.120 --> 00:52:12.440
All right. Um, Gladia. Oh, you're so welcome, Gladia.

952
00:52:12.440 --> 00:52:13.480
Let me take a question from you.

953
00:52:13.480 --> 00:52:18.040
And then my last question is going to be with Tim and then we will close.

954
00:52:18.880 --> 00:52:21.120
Oh, before we go there,

955
00:52:22.560 --> 00:52:27.400
before we go there, um, Gladia, just hold on for one second. Okay. Um,

956
00:52:29.200 --> 00:52:32.200
I'm going to do something for all of you. There, there are a number of people,

957
00:52:33.360 --> 00:52:35.760
there's a number of people who couldn't that,

958
00:52:36.840 --> 00:52:40.760
that wanted to take the offer, couldn't take the offer, uh, right now,

959
00:52:40.800 --> 00:52:41.760
but at the same time,

960
00:52:41.760 --> 00:52:45.280
they want to be able to continue to have this kind of communication,

961
00:52:45.280 --> 00:52:49.200
this kind of engagement. Um, so that just to be clear, that,

962
00:52:49.200 --> 00:52:51.360
that does not mean sitting down with me one-on-one,

963
00:52:51.360 --> 00:52:52.720
which we're doing in the offer.

964
00:52:52.720 --> 00:52:55.640
That does not mean trademark search and application.

965
00:52:55.640 --> 00:52:59.720
It doesn't mean getting a strategic plan. None of that's included. All right.

966
00:53:00.280 --> 00:53:04.520
But what I decided to do is the protection portal alone,

967
00:53:04.840 --> 00:53:07.880
which is where I go live for an hour and a half, once a month,

968
00:53:08.360 --> 00:53:12.320
if you did not take the offer and you're interested in that and being in that

969
00:53:12.320 --> 00:53:17.240
environment, I'm making that available for you for 24 95.

970
00:53:17.720 --> 00:53:21.120
Okay. But that's again, just to be clear,

971
00:53:22.360 --> 00:53:25.440
Oh, is she really? I just, I just want to be clear here though.

972
00:53:26.080 --> 00:53:29.840
This does not mean one-on-one guidance. This does not mean legal advice.

973
00:53:29.840 --> 00:53:34.240
This does not mean trademark searching does not mean trademark application.

974
00:53:34.880 --> 00:53:38.480
So the people who took the offer have a very different deal.

975
00:53:39.000 --> 00:53:42.920
That deal is pretty remarkable. All right.

976
00:53:42.920 --> 00:53:45.760
And so I welcome all of you in and you're going to see in December,

977
00:53:45.760 --> 00:53:49.840
we're going to start building this out. You're going to have strategic plans.

978
00:53:49.960 --> 00:53:51.960
Then when you go into the network,

979
00:53:52.000 --> 00:53:56.320
those people will have to be able to implement it and ask questions about their

980
00:53:56.320 --> 00:54:01.400
own personal, you know, their own personal created strategic plan.

981
00:54:01.720 --> 00:54:05.000
Right. Which is pretty incredibly powerful.

982
00:54:05.000 --> 00:54:08.960
I wish I had that a long time ago for building a business that I was doing,

983
00:54:09.200 --> 00:54:13.760
but in any case yep. It's an upfront, it's an upfront payment.

984
00:54:15.120 --> 00:54:16.960
Can't wait for our one-on-one. Oh yeah.

985
00:54:16.960 --> 00:54:19.600
We're going to have an incredible time with the one-on-one you'll see.

986
00:54:20.400 --> 00:54:25.680
You'll see a number of people actually became clients that were,

987
00:54:28.120 --> 00:54:29.560
they're actually looking back saying,

988
00:54:29.560 --> 00:54:32.000
why didn't you have that offer before I came to your client?

989
00:54:32.400 --> 00:54:35.000
It was like, cause I just thought of it and I just got my own law firm.

990
00:54:35.000 --> 00:54:40.520
So it wasn't available back then. Now it is. So in any case I've got some clients

991
00:54:40.520 --> 00:54:43.400
that actually want to take the offer. I don't know how I'm going to deal with that,

992
00:54:43.400 --> 00:54:47.840
but in any case it's kind of, yeah. Divine timing. So, all right.

993
00:54:47.840 --> 00:54:51.000
So with that we're going to drop the link.

994
00:54:51.000 --> 00:54:53.280
Can you drop the link Ray?

995
00:54:54.640 --> 00:54:57.920
Yes, I definitely just did. I'll drop it again.

996
00:54:57.960 --> 00:54:59.960
Okay, great. So the way this.

997
00:55:00.000 --> 00:55:05.800
works. Again, I go live once a month. You can email questions.

998
00:55:06.080 --> 00:55:09.840
We review the questions live. I don't email you answers. This is

999
00:55:09.840 --> 00:55:13.960
not the same as the offer, guys. All right. So it's not it's not

1000
00:55:13.960 --> 00:55:17.040
bad. It's incredible. That's what my offer used to be, which

1001
00:55:17.040 --> 00:55:19.880
is a protection portal, which is a lot of people go into that.

1002
00:55:20.080 --> 00:55:23.680
It just so happens that now I have the opportunity to provide

1003
00:55:23.680 --> 00:55:26.960
legal services. So I decided to add that which seemingly a lot

1004
00:55:26.960 --> 00:55:31.480
of people wanted because a lot of people took the offer. So if

1005
00:55:31.480 --> 00:55:33.880
you want to go into the network, though, network is incredibly

1006
00:55:33.880 --> 00:55:36.800
powerful. The people that are taking the offer are in the

1007
00:55:36.800 --> 00:55:40.760
network as well. That was thrown in for free for them. All right.

1008
00:55:41.040 --> 00:55:45.640
So you'll get live once a month, hour and a half, you'll get the

1009
00:55:45.640 --> 00:55:51.600
back end video storage facilities on tribe social. You'll

1010
00:55:51.600 --> 00:55:56.560
get the attorney network stuff. If I feel like if I feel like

1011
00:55:56.560 --> 00:55:58.600
you're a good fit with a certain person in a certain

1012
00:55:58.600 --> 00:56:02.920
country, I could do the introduction for you. Oh, one of

1013
00:56:02.920 --> 00:56:07.160
the best parts. I don't think I ever mentioned this, right? You

1014
00:56:07.160 --> 00:56:10.080
get to go into any protector idea challenge for free.

1015
00:56:11.640 --> 00:56:12.840
For the entire year.

1016
00:56:12.880 --> 00:56:15.400
Yeah, the entire year. So

1017
00:56:15.960 --> 00:56:19.120
as well, I have I have slides for them if you need to run

1018
00:56:19.120 --> 00:56:19.600
through it.

1019
00:56:19.960 --> 00:56:22.080
Yeah, well, I can do it really fast. You want to open it real

1020
00:56:22.080 --> 00:56:24.640
fast. Yeah, it's only gonna take one minute, guys, because we

1021
00:56:24.640 --> 00:56:27.960
kind of talked about the features before. But I wanted to

1022
00:56:27.960 --> 00:56:30.520
make this available to you because this class is very

1023
00:56:30.520 --> 00:56:34.240
unique. There's a lot of professionals in this class.

1024
00:56:34.240 --> 00:56:37.200
Like, this is not there's not a lot of dabblers, like people

1025
00:56:37.200 --> 00:56:39.880
who are just trying things out in here. There's, there's a lot

1026
00:56:39.880 --> 00:56:43.520
of professionals that have been literally doing things and

1027
00:56:43.520 --> 00:56:47.240
running companies and building things and need immediate

1028
00:56:47.240 --> 00:56:51.800
implementation and fine tuning. So it's, it's very, this group

1029
00:56:51.800 --> 00:56:55.760
is different. And so I'm very impressed by all of you. So I

1030
00:56:55.760 --> 00:57:00.360
want to make myself available for all of you. And the most

1031
00:57:00.360 --> 00:57:04.240
efficient way for me to do that for you, if you can't do the

1032
00:57:04.240 --> 00:57:08.520
offer, where I can work with you one on one is for you to go

1033
00:57:08.520 --> 00:57:11.360
into the network where you can get the benefit of other

1034
00:57:11.360 --> 00:57:14.640
people's questions. You can ask your own questions. We go live

1035
00:57:14.640 --> 00:57:18.200
just like we've been doing a VIP answering questions going back

1036
00:57:18.200 --> 00:57:21.600
and forth. There's no legal advice, though. There's no

1037
00:57:21.600 --> 00:57:28.400
legal advice, though. Okay, so. So that will not happen. There's

1038
00:57:28.400 --> 00:57:31.160
plenty of hydration, though, because we say that a lot in

1039
00:57:31.160 --> 00:57:35.320
that group, because people they come, they come trying to get

1040
00:57:35.320 --> 00:57:39.000
the answers, like, they're like, well, let's say,

1041
00:57:39.000 --> 00:57:42.520
hypothetically, you had this product. And hypothetically, you

1042
00:57:42.520 --> 00:57:45.480
had a client who hypothetically did this. I mean, it's their

1043
00:57:45.520 --> 00:57:49.440
exact scenario, you know, it's their scenario. And so you got

1044
00:57:49.440 --> 00:57:53.240
to be careful on the legal side. So you are very welcome. It's

1045
00:57:53.240 --> 00:57:57.280
law education. Yes, Felicia, it is law education. Just like if

1046
00:57:57.280 --> 00:57:59.360
you went to law school, there's the kind of stuff I would be

1047
00:57:59.360 --> 00:58:03.800
training you at, except you'd be paying $37,000 for three

1048
00:58:03.800 --> 00:58:08.680
months. So that's kind of different. So hopefully, does

1049
00:58:08.680 --> 00:58:11.840
that you guys like that? Does that help you out? This way you

1050
00:58:11.840 --> 00:58:16.280
have that available? Okay, good. So it's available for you. Now

1051
00:58:16.320 --> 00:58:19.880
you can do the the one pay or I think we have the three pay on

1052
00:58:19.880 --> 00:58:25.240
that Ray, right? So it's available right now. Okay. So

1053
00:58:25.240 --> 00:58:28.240
all right. And with that, Gladia, thank you so much for

1054
00:58:28.240 --> 00:58:32.600
being patient. Ray, did you pull up those things already?

1055
00:58:34.360 --> 00:58:37.400
This slide? Yeah, I have them. If you want me to screen share,

1056
00:58:37.400 --> 00:58:37.880
I can do that.

1057
00:58:37.880 --> 00:58:40.240
Just screen share real fast, just to make sure I didn't miss

1058
00:58:40.240 --> 00:58:42.800
anything on the portal. So I'm going to take one minute

1059
00:58:42.800 --> 00:58:46.760
literally. Because I know what the first few slides are

1060
00:58:46.840 --> 00:58:47.440
already.

1061
00:58:48.400 --> 00:58:53.240
All right, give me just a moment here. Everybody's gonna see that

1062
00:58:53.240 --> 00:58:54.960
I'm a tab monster. Hold on.

1063
00:59:02.560 --> 00:59:03.560
Yep, that's it.

1064
00:59:04.560 --> 00:59:04.960
Okay.

1065
00:59:10.880 --> 00:59:13.400
Yeah, not that the package is done.

1066
00:59:14.800 --> 00:59:15.800
When I apologize.

1067
00:59:16.080 --> 00:59:18.680
Bear with me. No, it's at the end of that. It's at the end of

1068
00:59:18.680 --> 00:59:18.960
that.

1069
00:59:19.320 --> 00:59:23.120
Oh, no, I I anticipated your generosity because I know you

1070
00:59:23.160 --> 00:59:27.200
and so I went and separated it while you were talking this whole

1071
00:59:27.200 --> 00:59:27.600
time.

1072
00:59:28.000 --> 00:59:29.160
Oh, you did? Wow.

1073
00:59:30.680 --> 00:59:31.800
I knew it was coming.

1074
00:59:32.800 --> 00:59:33.560
Okay.

1075
00:59:34.960 --> 00:59:37.400
All right. Is that it? Yep, that's the portal. Okay, so you

1076
00:59:37.400 --> 00:59:41.360
get one year membership from the day that you join. Okay, so you

1077
00:59:41.360 --> 00:59:45.320
would be joining now. And the next session would be in

1078
00:59:45.320 --> 00:59:49.200
December. So it would start the December, December session

1079
00:59:49.200 --> 00:59:53.360
through to December. So you get a full year of training. Okay,

1080
00:59:53.360 --> 00:59:55.360
so that's the first one go right ahead.

1081
00:59:57.760 --> 00:59:59.400
Yep, that we got already.

1082
01:00:00.000 --> 01:00:04.000
Next one.

1083
01:00:04.000 --> 01:00:08.000
Nope. Next one.

1084
01:00:08.000 --> 01:00:15.000
Okay, that's the access to your associates we mentioned that. Yep. So I make sure I didn't miss anything.

1085
01:00:15.000 --> 01:00:19.000
Yep, we talked about the email questions that's covered.

1086
01:00:19.000 --> 01:00:24.000
Yes, that's right. This is what we missed see I'm glad I'm glad we showed the video.

1087
01:00:24.000 --> 01:00:33.000
I'm glad we missed this is an important part. I'm the majority of the people who are in the protection portal actually pay for it themselves by just referring people into the challenge.

1088
01:00:33.000 --> 01:00:47.000
That's what they do. I mean, Jennifer alone is going to probably get a check for well over 1000 bucks from this last chance from the last one so I mean there's a lot of people who are who are affiliates.

1089
01:00:47.000 --> 01:00:55.000
When you go into the protection portal you get 20% of anyone you refer in so if they take the challenge.

1090
01:00:55.000 --> 01:01:08.000
As a matter of fact, it's actually better than the 560 because if they end up taking the offer it's 20% of that which would essentially be like 1000 and change you end up making almost 1200 bucks for one person.

1091
01:01:08.000 --> 01:01:23.000
Right. I mean it's just the offer is ridiculous so it's it's it's a good deal for you guys. If you have the opportunity. You can pay for your membership, just by becoming an affiliate, just sending a bunch of people over you'll pay for it right away so.

1092
01:01:23.000 --> 01:01:28.000
All right, let's close that up, and let me answer two more questions.

1093
01:01:28.000 --> 01:01:34.000
And then we'll close Claudia Thank you for your remarkable patience.

1094
01:01:34.000 --> 01:01:37.000
What can I do for you guys.

1095
01:01:37.000 --> 01:01:49.000
I have Peter Thank you again. Um, I mean I think you called me out because I think I was about to do what you said not to do.

1096
01:01:50.000 --> 01:02:01.000
I was going through the portal and I was just, I just feel a little overwhelmed I'm, I may be different from everybody here I just feel like I'm not really catching as quickly as I'd like to.

1097
01:02:01.000 --> 01:02:13.000
It's a lot of information great information though. Um, but I was looking up, even my logo name and I was seeing a lot of things that was saying live or dead.

1098
01:02:14.000 --> 01:02:16.000
Yeah, let me share with you.

1099
01:02:16.000 --> 01:02:23.000
And yeah, let me share that with you. It's a good question. So, two things. First of all, before I share the screen.

1100
01:02:23.000 --> 01:02:33.000
What you just said is exactly one of the major reasons why I created the protection portal, honestly, because we we've covered a good amount of material.

1101
01:02:34.000 --> 01:02:41.000
If you're in VIP, or are you in VIP or in a challenge or what challenge.

1102
01:02:41.000 --> 01:02:47.000
Just to challenge yourself right so here's the thing. By taking the challenge you have the videos for 30 days.

1103
01:02:47.000 --> 01:02:57.000
When people take the offer, not the offer gives you a full year the offers closed already. But if you take the protection portal you keep your videos for a full year.

1104
01:02:57.000 --> 01:03:07.000
So that means now the people who have taken the challenge can continue to review them. And as they have questions, they come into the protection portal with those questions like you're doing now.

1105
01:03:07.000 --> 01:03:17.000
And they can do that over a full year, literally, it's like you can take it drip by drips like I've got 10 minutes to study it now I've got a half hour tomorrow.

1106
01:03:17.000 --> 01:03:26.000
Like I can go through this, I've got, I'm not really understanding this, this logo thing like I, what if, what if, like half the word is there is that an issue.

1107
01:03:26.000 --> 01:03:42.000
Okay, you're in the network. I mean once you're in the network it's like you can bring your questions in as the year goes through and that's, that's why I created that is because it is IP is it's some of its logical some of it is highly illogical.

1108
01:03:43.000 --> 01:03:47.000
Like, you know, the idea of common law trademark rights.

1109
01:03:47.000 --> 01:03:53.000
Like most people just wouldn't even think of that most people when they get a cease and desist letter to stop.

1110
01:03:53.000 --> 01:03:58.000
But what if you actually had more rights than the person who just got a federal registration.

1111
01:03:58.000 --> 01:04:08.000
That's amazing. And even separate from that, you know, you do a search for for corporate names with the Secretary of State everybody thinks it's clear.

1112
01:04:08.000 --> 01:04:10.000
I just told you it's not.

1113
01:04:10.000 --> 01:04:23.000
I just said well you got to go out there and do a search of trademarks not business names, you know, and corporate lawyers are getting that wrong. Lawyers, Gladia, lawyers are getting this wrong.

1114
01:04:23.000 --> 01:04:30.000
I mean that's that's a big problem so that's why we have this network so you can continue to learn from each other.

1115
01:04:30.000 --> 01:04:41.000
Ask questions engage grow together so everybody succeeds. We're not here just about ourselves. We're here to make sure everyone succeeds. So let me share my screen.

1116
01:04:41.000 --> 01:04:46.000
So that's why we put that why we put that offer out there.

1117
01:04:46.000 --> 01:04:49.000
And let me go back a little bit here.

1118
01:04:50.000 --> 01:04:58.000
Let me turn off the image list. All right, you see right down here where it says dead World Basketball Festival.

1119
01:04:58.000 --> 01:05:00.000
Dead.

1120
01:05:00.000 --> 01:05:07.680
Okay. There it is right there. Okay. If I click on that. Oh, all right. So here's another thing.

1121
01:05:07.680 --> 01:05:13.200
You guys have now experienced the thing that frustrates me the most about the USPTO website.

1122
01:05:13.200 --> 01:05:18.240
If you don't do anything for a certain amount of time, they lock you out. So now you got to go

1123
01:05:18.240 --> 01:05:22.320
back. I mean, it's not that difficult. You just go back to the beginning, hit trademarks, hit search,

1124
01:05:22.880 --> 01:05:26.240
start all over, because they only allow so many people to search at the same time.

1125
01:05:27.200 --> 01:05:41.920
Um, so now you start over and you do Nike as the owner and let's say, uh, do it, do it.

1126
01:05:44.080 --> 01:05:51.600
Now, some might say, well, what about just do it? You search, do it, then, uh, do it is broader

1127
01:05:51.600 --> 01:05:55.680
than just do it. Right. So everything that says just do it should show up if I look for do it.

1128
01:05:55.680 --> 01:06:00.960
Right. So make query C there's all the just do it. So when you're searching out there,

1129
01:06:00.960 --> 01:06:05.280
just to go through this one last time, when you're searching out there, make sure that

1130
01:06:05.280 --> 01:06:13.120
when you're searching, you're not searching, you know, the, just the whole thing. Cause if

1131
01:06:13.120 --> 01:06:19.120
you search just the whole thing, you might include somebody else's trademark inside your trademarks.

1132
01:06:19.120 --> 01:06:26.480
Like if somebody had a registration for do it for sneakers, then when Nike came out with just

1133
01:06:26.480 --> 01:06:32.320
do it for sneakers, they would infringe, right? So there you go searching for just do it. And

1134
01:06:32.320 --> 01:06:37.200
you don't realize that there's a do it out there and you can infringe upon their trademarks. That's

1135
01:06:37.200 --> 01:06:42.560
a complex issue I just explained, but you got the video so you can watch it. So you search for

1136
01:06:42.560 --> 01:06:48.800
submit, you submit, and there's some dead trademarks. You click on that one. You look down

1137
01:06:48.800 --> 01:06:57.840
here and it says status dead, be dead. Now, what does that mean? Does somebody want to jump in here

1138
01:06:57.840 --> 01:07:03.280
and explain what that means? Let's see if, see if anybody knows, I'm going to let somebody else

1139
01:07:03.280 --> 01:07:13.520
speak for a moment. Anybody want to take a chance on this one? Good Teresa. Teresa, how are you? I

1140
01:07:13.520 --> 01:07:19.520
didn't even know you were here. It's good to see you. Teresa's actually in the portal. It's so good

1141
01:07:19.520 --> 01:07:30.720
to see you. I'm good. Oh, oh, you're muted. You're muted. There you go. So it means that their thing

1142
01:07:30.720 --> 01:07:38.240
ran out, right? That's exactly. That is the legal terminology. The thing ran out. That is in the

1143
01:07:38.240 --> 01:07:44.960
statute. 35 USC section says the thing ran out. That's what it says. No, that's exactly right.

1144
01:07:44.960 --> 01:07:51.360
The thing ran out. So their trademark ran out. And so with that, it's so good to see you, Teresa.

1145
01:07:52.240 --> 01:07:56.240
You too, everybody. All right. So over here where it says dead,

1146
01:07:57.040 --> 01:08:01.680
that just means that either they didn't renew it, or it means that they filed an application,

1147
01:08:01.680 --> 01:08:07.120
they didn't get a registration. But if you, what you can do is click on this. For those of you

1148
01:08:07.120 --> 01:08:11.840
who are like adventurous, you can click on this TSDR. When you click on the TSDR, you can look

1149
01:08:11.840 --> 01:08:16.800
and see why it went abandoned. And down here it says registration canceled because registration

1150
01:08:16.800 --> 01:08:20.800
did not file an acceptable declaration under section 8. So it tells you that they didn't

1151
01:08:21.760 --> 01:08:28.319
renew it. So that's why they didn't get it. So there's a lot of really good information

1152
01:08:28.319 --> 01:08:37.840
on the USPTO website and it's free. But there's multiple Nikes that has live and dead. Like,

1153
01:08:37.840 --> 01:08:43.359
how do you know, like which one is overlapping? Which one, like, why is there so many different

1154
01:08:43.359 --> 01:08:49.040
ones? Because when I was searching for mine, this is like very similar to this, just do it search

1155
01:08:49.040 --> 01:08:54.399
that we're doing here. That I'm, that I'm so confused that I'm like, maybe I shouldn't even

1156
01:08:54.399 --> 01:09:00.160
use the word at all in my, it may be the case. And so this is, again, there's why I'd say,

1157
01:09:00.160 --> 01:09:04.080
if you see a lot of things that are similar, you definitely want to get somebody involved.

1158
01:09:04.640 --> 01:09:09.600
But what I would do personally is I click on like each one and I look at them and I say,

1159
01:09:09.600 --> 01:09:14.160
oh, hair accessories. I'm not doing hair accessories. I'm doing sneakers. Like that's

1160
01:09:14.160 --> 01:09:21.120
not even close. But now I look at the next one, I click on it and it says retail stores. Okay.

1161
01:09:21.840 --> 01:09:25.920
And I go to the next one. Like I look at them one by one, see what they're on.

1162
01:09:27.520 --> 01:09:33.279
So the goods and services is really what I should pay attention to because I'm doing more like

1163
01:09:33.279 --> 01:09:37.439
coaching and things like that. Not really. Yeah. And a lot of the coaching stuff,

1164
01:09:37.439 --> 01:09:41.680
if I remember correctly, I think coaching is predominantly in class 41, but you got to look

1165
01:09:41.680 --> 01:09:47.680
it up. You got to, you got to matter of fact, I wonder if I could do that really fast. Let's see.

1166
01:09:48.479 --> 01:09:59.680
International class for coaching international trademark, trademark internal class for coaching.

1167
01:10:00.000 --> 01:10:03.000
Services.

1168
01:10:03.000 --> 01:10:05.000
To 41.

1169
01:10:05.000 --> 01:10:11.000
Oh, 41 Come on.

1170
01:10:11.000 --> 01:10:15.000
Okay, I'm getting corny right now so there you go.

1171
01:10:15.000 --> 01:10:26.000
Okay, there you go so that's that's that's so how would I search for this in the, in the USPTO, or like what are you.

1172
01:10:26.000 --> 01:10:28.000
Claudia.

1173
01:10:28.000 --> 01:10:36.000
Are you asking me to search for your exact trademark right now is that what you're asking me. I mean if you.

1174
01:10:36.000 --> 01:10:43.000
This is not legal advice. No, can't do that. No, ain't happening.

1175
01:10:43.000 --> 01:11:00.000
No, no, I wouldn't want to get nobody in trouble. Basically, when you do when you do your searches, like we look at the words then we look at the goods and services, and we look at all those all those elements to determine whether or not there's a

1176
01:11:00.000 --> 01:11:05.000
confusion like we look at them all one by one by one, every single one of them.

1177
01:11:05.000 --> 01:11:14.000
And then we do an analysis because lawyers and the courts they do this balance test like you see, Lady Justice right she's like blind.

1178
01:11:14.000 --> 01:11:27.000
Standing there with the scales, the scales of justice and so you like you have some of the factors on one side some of the factors on the other side and you look to see where the scale falls and typically if, if

1179
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the deal breakers are sound the same looks the same. Those are like the biggest ones sounds the same looks. If you have sound the same looks the same and similar goods or services dead.

1180
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Don't don't even pass go don't collect your $200. You don't even get to play Monopoly anymore. You got to go play backgammon or part easy because you're done with the game is over.

1181
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All right, that's literally what happens in those situations so Tim let me take your question I'm going to close because we've been an hour and 20 minutes already.

1182
01:11:57.000 --> 01:12:02.000
So, go right ahead. Yeah, just real quick.

1183
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So do you have affiliates or people you know that would do a trademark or logo design that would meet the qualifications to sign a clause that they wouldn't let full pay until trademark was confirmed.

1184
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I don't know if George does that there's a guy, there's a guy I work with, I have to check and see if he was smart enough to do that or not, but he's a really good designer, so I can check around and see if I know guys that will do that.

1185
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But it's basically the people that go through this course.

1186
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Most of them, they just won't pick up the liability they don't want it. Right, like, you know, I mean it's just bad practice if you're a designer why in the world are you dealing with the law, like, it's just, it's not wise, you know it's, but I'll tell you this much,

1187
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if you do, like there are design corporations that you know you go for an original work and they do searches and things like that and Ray we should probably Tim asked a good question we should probably put our heads together and figure out which ones are out there to do that.

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I was already mapping that we need to make a network. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That'd be good. We'll make that available to the people in the portal, like, yeah, yeah, it's a good idea.

1189
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And so, yeah, so we tend to drop like a lot of resources in the portal for people and they get first crack at stuff that comes up offers things like that so you'll see you're in the portal, you'll see what it's like.

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So for all of you that so all of you that actually take this offer or took the original offer on Wednesday this week, we're going to be live at seven to seven, I think it's seven o'clock.

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I think it's 7pm, just to do an introduction to introduce all of you to the other people.

1192
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I had 12pm. Yeah.

1193
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Really in the middle of the day, like a normal portal meeting, but if you want me to adjust it I can notify it changes to 7pm because, okay, yeah, I'm not doing middle of the day.

1194
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Yeah, I'm like, I'm closing a law firm and opening a law firm it's not happening at 12 o'clock.

1195
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So let's change it to 7pm at night so then my European friends it's midnight there but

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one o'clock depends on where you are so.

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All right. With that, my friends.

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I'm just going to pray us out. I just want to pray over people's businesses. If you don't believe in prayer that's right just accept good wishes.

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And so if I hear anything as I'm praying, then I will reveal.

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And this is kind of a tradition that we've done.

1201
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And so, yeah, so I just want to open up, open up the floor for that so yeah Lord we just want to take them. Just take this moment to honor you.

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Thank you for every single person that you brought here.

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We just bless you, we thank you for every idea that comes upon us.

1204
01:15:06.800 --> 01:15:12.760
We thank you for providing clarity as to how to use them.

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Partnerships, I'm seeing a lot of stuff in partnerships, so Lord I thank you for divine

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01:15:18.720 --> 01:15:23.940
revelation on who to partner with.

1207
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Sometimes we're not supposed to go forward in ventures alone, so I thank you for clarity

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on who we're supposed to partner with, Lord.

1209
01:15:33.880 --> 01:15:38.280
Financial partners, I'm seeing that as well, so Lord I thank you for divine intervention

1210
01:15:38.280 --> 01:15:43.660
so we know who are the financial partners, and I thank you, Father God, for ease and

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grace in the process.

1212
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Lord, we just lift up all the businesses that are represented here, everything that is intended

1213
01:15:51.340 --> 01:15:52.340
to serve you.

1214
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Father, I ask that your touch will be upon it.

1215
01:15:55.580 --> 01:15:59.820
I ask for clarity of mind, wisdom, and discernment.

1216
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We ask for, Lord, you say that if we desire wisdom, we can simply ask, and you provide

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it freely, Lord.

1218
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So we seek your wisdom to apply the giftings that you've provided for us, for your glory

1219
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to help those around us, and even ourselves and our families.

1220
01:16:22.900 --> 01:16:28.220
Lord, I ask that every word that was spoken that's aligned with you would fall upon good

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soil, that fruit would grow, that there would be divine manifestations, Lord, of your glory

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01:16:38.500 --> 01:16:48.060
in business, and Father, anything that was not aligned, Lord, that anything that was

1223
01:16:48.060 --> 01:16:50.860
off in any way, that it would just be forgotten.

1224
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Father, I thank you for the power of the people that you've brought together, the network,

1225
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and all that you're creating, and I ask that we never forget that a main focus is upon

1226
01:17:03.320 --> 01:17:08.600
you, Jesus, and that you receive glory and not us.

1227
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I'm seeing a lot of stuff in the area of partnerships.

1228
01:17:18.980 --> 01:17:27.220
So if you're in an area where you're building up a business right now, and you're contemplating

1229
01:17:27.220 --> 01:17:32.300
a partner right now, just by a show of hands, how many people are in that area right now?

1230
01:17:32.300 --> 01:17:35.100
Yeah, there's a lot of them.

1231
01:17:35.100 --> 01:17:36.100
Okay.

1232
01:17:36.100 --> 01:17:37.100
All right.

1233
01:17:37.600 --> 01:17:41.520
Yeah, I would just say, present it to them, bring their name before the Lord, and just

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ask them, is this the right person?

1235
01:17:43.840 --> 01:17:44.840
Is this the right season?

1236
01:17:44.840 --> 01:17:45.840
Season, that's another part.

1237
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Is this the right timing, the right season to work together as partners on this?

1238
01:17:53.960 --> 01:17:59.280
Because you know what happens is when God bestows blessings upon us, it's not just about

1239
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us.

1240
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Like we, by all means, you know, we're wonderfully, fearfully made in his image.

1241
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He loves us.

1242
01:18:05.360 --> 01:18:06.360
He cares about us.

1243
01:18:06.620 --> 01:18:08.120
He knows the number of hairs upon your head.

1244
01:18:08.120 --> 01:18:13.580
He has more thoughts about you than the number of grains of sand upon the earth, right?

1245
01:18:13.580 --> 01:18:19.240
At the same time, Father, Son, Holy Spirit, a single blessing.

1246
01:18:19.240 --> 01:18:23.640
The way I look at it is when a single blessing comes, I see there should be at least three

1247
01:18:23.640 --> 01:18:25.360
things associated with it.

1248
01:18:25.360 --> 01:18:29.760
We understand the three are one, but I always look for more than one.

1249
01:18:29.760 --> 01:18:33.600
Because what we typically do is we look and we see one thing and we stop and we're like,

1250
01:18:33.640 --> 01:18:34.640
Oh my gosh, that's incredible.

1251
01:18:34.640 --> 01:18:37.640
And we throw it on Facebook.

1252
01:18:37.640 --> 01:18:41.000
And that's not what we're supposed to do.

1253
01:18:41.000 --> 01:18:46.280
When you start to see revelation coming to you, stay still, don't move.

1254
01:18:46.280 --> 01:18:47.280
Don't move.

1255
01:18:47.280 --> 01:18:48.880
You can be excited, but don't move.

1256
01:18:48.880 --> 01:18:52.120
Don't move until the revelation stops flowing.

1257
01:18:52.120 --> 01:18:53.120
Don't move.

1258
01:18:53.120 --> 01:18:55.400
And if it stops flowing, dig in more.

1259
01:18:55.400 --> 01:18:57.640
Say I'm not moving until I get more.

1260
01:18:57.640 --> 01:18:58.640
Dig in more.

1261
01:18:58.640 --> 01:18:59.640
Dig in more.

1262
01:18:59.880 --> 01:19:03.720
We're not in a season right now where you can kind of just waste 10 years.

1263
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We don't have 10 years to waste anymore.

1264
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So you stay planted.

1265
01:19:09.120 --> 01:19:10.120
You dig in more.

1266
01:19:10.120 --> 01:19:12.920
You ask for more and you receive.

1267
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And then you ask, don't forget to ask, what do I do with this?

1268
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Don't forget to ask what I do with this because we have our own thoughts of what to do with

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things.

1270
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And what I'm just kind of hearing and feeling is that your greatest thoughts don't even

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01:19:32.880 --> 01:19:36.960
measure up to his toes.

1272
01:19:36.960 --> 01:19:39.480
Like literally, you think, oh my gosh, this is so huge.

1273
01:19:39.480 --> 01:19:41.200
I'm going to do this, this, this, and this.

1274
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And it's like a fraction of a fraction of what he has in mind.

1275
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And so if you start moving, by all means, you can start moving, but just stay involved

1276
01:19:51.400 --> 01:19:52.400
with him.

1277
01:19:52.400 --> 01:19:58.960
Just hear his voice and press forward doing that as opposed to just going forward what

1278
01:19:58.960 --> 01:20:00.080
you believe is supposed to happen.

1279
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to be built. You can go forward with what you believe is supposed to be built and he'll

1280
01:20:04.240 --> 01:20:07.520
celebrate it, he'll be happy for you, but you're not going to see the fullness of it.

1281
01:20:10.800 --> 01:20:16.960
You know, people got really excited when they saw a bicycle and they said, whoa, I can go

1282
01:20:16.960 --> 01:20:21.760
from point A to point B, but somebody realized that you can take that bicycle and use it

1283
01:20:21.760 --> 01:20:26.560
inside of a power plant, use that same gear system to create power.

1284
01:20:29.680 --> 01:20:36.080
It's the same system. So there's a lot more, there's a lot more that we're leaving on the

1285
01:20:36.080 --> 01:20:41.600
table. We don't realize it. We're not seeing it fully. Like I didn't even see it when I started

1286
01:20:41.600 --> 01:20:45.120
this up. I didn't, I didn't realize it was going to be another law firm. I didn't realize there

1287
01:20:45.120 --> 01:20:49.760
was going to be all these other things that are coming from this, these, these networks and these

1288
01:20:49.760 --> 01:20:54.800
connections and all these other things. I never saw that. I saw, let me mentor a few people,

1289
01:20:56.320 --> 01:21:01.040
but he can do way more if we just let him, but you got to hear him. So

1290
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and I just speak to any fear, Lord, I thank you for just shutting the door to fear.

1291
01:21:09.280 --> 01:21:13.600
The word says you don't give us a spirit of fear, but of power, love, and a sound mind

1292
01:21:13.600 --> 01:21:16.800
says to be anxious over nothing, but in everything, bring our prayers and petitions to you

1293
01:21:16.800 --> 01:21:23.040
at Thanksgiving. You provide a peace that goes beyond all understanding. Fear is trespassing.

1294
01:21:23.040 --> 01:21:28.880
It's not of our kingdom. It's not our God. We worship God. We worship Jesus. We don't worship

1295
01:21:28.880 --> 01:21:36.640
fear. What we focus on is what we're worshiping. We focus on God. So I just thank you for peace.

1296
01:21:37.280 --> 01:21:40.480
I just bless everyone here, Father. I ask that there,

1297
01:21:40.800 --> 01:21:45.920
that there will be clarity for them. I ask for dreams and visions that people will be able to

1298
01:21:45.920 --> 01:21:52.800
hear you clearly, and that they will be brave enough to follow what you're calling them to

1299
01:21:52.800 --> 01:21:56.800
do because some of the things you're calling them to do does not, just does not make sense.

1300
01:21:59.920 --> 01:22:02.400
And for that reason, we know that you'll receive the glory.

1301
01:22:04.400 --> 01:22:08.720
Amen. That's awesome. I like that last part. That's so good. Amen.

1302
01:22:10.800 --> 01:22:18.640
All right. Bless all you guys. You can unmute now. Just kind of say goodbye. Bye.

1303
01:22:37.920 --> 01:22:39.440
Blessings to your daughters.

1304
01:22:41.040 --> 01:22:44.800
Thank you. Thank you very much. I appreciate that. Thanks so much.

1305
01:22:46.800 --> 01:22:52.000
Wow. That was one bonus session, man. That was good.

1306
01:22:52.880 --> 01:22:54.800
That's awesome. That's awesome.

1307
01:22:54.800 --> 01:22:56.320
I think this has been my favorite.

1308
01:22:57.200 --> 01:23:05.040
Oh, it's good. I'm telling you, the people here, it's, I mean, each group is unique.

1309
01:23:05.040 --> 01:23:07.200
Oh, yeah. Every group is.

1310
01:23:07.200 --> 01:23:13.360
But man, just so many people would experience here. It's just like real life experience,

1311
01:23:13.360 --> 01:23:17.600
which is what you want. These become like the senior leaders.

1312
01:23:18.640 --> 01:23:22.960
The level of focus that this group has is so inspiring.

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Absolutely. All right. I'm going to let you guys go. Have a wonderful evening.