Okay. All right. So let's get started. So tonight we are going to be talking about and just about how to create and operate your business and then tomorrow I plan to talk about more interacting with with with clients and and customers, because that's a very
extensive topic.
But tonight we are going to just focus on actually creating one, how to operate once you actually have it started, things like that, how to make decisions.
Anyway, and at the very end, we're going to have a Q&A. So let me sit so y'all keep track of any questions that you have, it's possible that I will answer them as I continue to go on tonight, but any that you have left that I haven't answered, you can
feel free to answer those or ask those during the Q&A. And I decided to do two Q&As, one at the end of each night instead of just doing one at the end, in order to kind of help people hopefully solidify some ideas in their mind when they're in the middle
of the, excuse me, when they're in the actual middle of the of the thought process. So hopefully that's gonna be helpful. So first of all, talking about how to actually create a business or ministry or anything that somebody wants to do.
Now, when you are, y'all know that that the prerequisite for this was to have actually watched some of my previous teachings on rest. So we're going to be constantly referring back to that because that's the whole thing that will actually make this quote unquote work
is actually being able to surrender everything to the Lord and shift into rest. So that's the first thing that I want to mention, when you have an idea.
About about a business or ministry, whether you think that that that it's originating in your heart, or it is originating actually from the Lord, maybe you had a dream about it, or someone prophesied something over you, whatever. It doesn't matter where for that for
what we're talking on right now.
We're talking about right now.
Excuse me.
We're going to specifically talk about the aspect of approaching it from
Well, I should say it could come from either so and what we're going to talk about. And that is that when you approach an idea that you have for business.
It's important or ministry, even if God gave it to you. We have a tendency to take this promise that the Lord's given us that this idea this dream.
And we start to focus on it, thinking that that is the whole point for which God gave us the thing that it is the point. And really, it's not
What that thing is, is that, well, it's twofold. For one, it is actually the it's actually the degree a picture for us.
How good that we can now understand that God is because God talks to us in a language in which we're trying to understand it talks to us how we're trying to under trying to see him. So in other words, if we're more of a more of a
If, according to our level of spiritual maturity, we're going to be looking at the world in circumstances from a particular perspective.
And God knows that. And so he's going to use pictures in that world that trigger a particular thing in us. So if we think that some if we put a very high value on something
Then God is going to show us a picture or a promise and going to make and make a picture promise or dream and give us a dream about something
That the whole point of which is the value that we have attributed to it so that we'll know that he is that good
He is good to that degree. He has loved to that degree. He's righteous to that degree, whatever the whole point isn't the promise. It's not the business. It's not the ministry.
It's not that it's not going to give you an identity. It's not going to be God's means of providing for you.
Because God, that's really big statement and hopefully I'll remember to clarify that later that that God can provide for us without needing something to be a means
God that that is not ever a way in which God is providing for us ever God is providing for us and this in this business thing for
Just for all intents and purposes of the picture that we're trying to paint right here is actually kind of like a shell.
It's not a means by which God is providing for us. God did not give us a business and saying, okay, this thing is going to provide for you.
I gave it to you and remember that, but this thing is going to provide for you. It doesn't.
He's providing for us. The business is a way in which we are, and this is the second part to it,
you know, I mentioned two reasons. I mentioned that there are two reasons why God will give us
a promise or a business or a ministry or something that He'll want us to, says that, hey, you can
desire to do this. This is where we're heading. The other thing is that that is supposed to,
is meant to be the actual expression of how our relationship with God has developed thus far.
And if we're not there yet where the business is going to look or where the business looks
like or the ministry looks like, whatever it is that God has said, then it means that it is a
promise of the level of relationship that we will have developed to by the time that it does arrive.
So it's an expression of how the Lord and we have developed to that point. It's the actual
visible expression of what is happening between us and the Lord in the invisible realm.
And that also means that because we haven't arrived yet, we don't have much of a grid for it
because we don't have, we, we, it, there's an element yet still of unfamiliarity,
meaning that we don't actually know exactly what it is going to look like. Even if God,
even if we, even if God gave us a, a picture and gave us a dream and we thought it actually
doesn't look like what we have assumed that picture meant, what we assume that that picture
actually looks like. We don't realize how, how many things that we end up adding to a picture.
So those are the two, those are the two things that God is actually saying, Hey, look,
I am good and love and righteous to this degree. And it's in, it's in language that we can
understand. We see that picture. We see that business. We feel our heart and our, and our
spirit life just kind of like rise up within us and lean towards it. That is one of the reasons
why God will give us things like that. He's trying to say, okay, that thing that means so much to you
understand, I would give that to you. I am that loving. I am that good. Then the other thing,
like I said, is that it is actually the visible expression of the invisible of the point to which
our relationship, the Lord has developed in the invisible realm. The reason why this is important
to belabor is not only do we need to then realize that it's not the business itself that provides
for us because God's providing for us regardless of that business. And that business is not a means
by which he's providing for us. Um, because provision has nothing whatsoever to do with money.
Um, uh, but also in speaking of that, let me write something down really quick because I don't,
I want to forget to mention this
because I want to go back to the fact that a provision is not actually money.
Uh, anyway, so that's why God gives us, um, the picture, uh, of the business in, and it's not
actually going to be the means of providing for us. It's going to be visible expression of the
relationship that we have developed with the Lord thus far. Therefore, when God gives us that,
we're not supposed to take our eyes off of him and onto that. And then now, whenever this,
it doesn't happen as fast as we want, that we have accusation against God because it hasn't
happened yet, or because we don't understand why God won't give us the step that we're supposed to
take to at least towards it, where we understand at least I'm moving towards it, Lord. I mean,
I understand it. Maybe I can't have it yet, but aren't I at least moving towards it? What am I
supposed to do? You gave this to me. What am I supposed to do? And then we start accusing the
Lord, not realizing that his accusation, but we can start accusing the Lord and use this beautiful
promise, this beautiful word that he expressed, you know, which is himself because God is word.
So when this word that he's expressing, now we use it as accusation against him. So the important
thing is that whenever God gives us a promise, whenever God tells us, Hey, I put this business
on your heart. I put this ministry on your heart. I know that maybe you don't understand it yet,
or maybe it's, maybe you do already understand it. And you're so excited that of all things
in the world, that's what I would give you regardless of what the situation is. It's very
important that we end, that we don't, sorry, let me go. There we go. It's very important
that we release ownership. So this is the most important foundational thing
in starting a business or being in the business. And you're wanting to,
and you're wanting to know, how do I continue in it? How do I bring, breathe life into it?
Maybe you're struggling with your business.
You're in the middle of it and you're struggling with it,
whatever the case may be,
whether you're starting it or you're in the middle,
it doesn't matter.
The thing is, how do you shift gears?
How do you begin to breathe life into the thing?
What is very important that we do is we,
sorry, I'm having issues with my,
having issues with my technical issues
and I don't really know why,
but it's very important that when God hands us something,
think of it kind of like a seed.
God gives us a seed and then remember what God says.
God says that a seed must go into the,
cannot grow unless it first goes into the ground and dies.
So when God gives us something
or when we present something to the Lord,
we have to let it die first.
Now death, as y'all remember, is not,
oh, I forgot to bring my notebook in here.
You remember that all that death is, excuse me,
is simply the release of something.
So remember that we're like a balloon,
like a balloon and we've grabbed a hold of a weight
and so now we're falling down
because of the weight into the believing
that our identity is more in our soul
or identity is more in our spirit
and the whole aspect of death is not a state of being.
It's not a place we go.
We're never in death.
All that death is, is it the transition.
So in order to pass through death, you simply let go.
You let go of whatever accusation
that we've had against the Lord
or whatever it is that we're taking ownership of.
So when we take ownership of something
that the Lord has spoken and has given us,
you know, this idea of like a dream or business
or I really wanna do this or I really wanna do that
or I really wanna be able to quit my day job
or I really wish that I had been
or I have submitted my resume over here
and I really want to be given a chance over here.
Regardless of what it is,
it's important that we allow that to go into the ground
and die and what that means
is it doesn't mean that we give up hope.
It doesn't mean that we are saying
that it's not going to happen.
What we are saying, when I say hope,
I mean, kind of like desire.
Our issue with hope, unfortunately,
which is why I usually don't typically like
to use that word.
Our issue, how we usually use hope
is we use it in accusation against God.
If we're, we don't, we have a difficult time
knowing how to hope without holding God accountable
when something doesn't happen in a particular way
or in a particular time.
It's very interesting.
So that's something that the Lord wants to redeem for us
is hope, not only work so that we can understand
that we can work without,
that we can work without strife,
that we can work in rest,
but also that we can hope
without having accusation against God
or disappointment if something doesn't come through.
And the way to do that is to release ownership.
That is all that it requires in order for the seed to die.
That's what it's talking about.
It's not saying that the seed is actually dead
because, I mean, a seed is still living,
even when it goes into the ground.
So of course, God was talking,
Jesus was talking in parables.
It doesn't mean that actually the seed actually dies
and it resurrects and comes back to life.
He was talking about the fact
that it looks like all hope is lost,
like everything is gone.
And your dreams, your ideas of your dreams,
your idea for your ministry, your idea for your business,
whether or not God gave it to you
or it is something that you presented to him and told him,
Lord, this is something that I want to do.
Regardless of which direction that it comes from,
it's very, very, very important
that we release ownership of it.
To the point that when there might be a time delay
in something actually manifesting,
we're not disappointed and we don't accuse the Lord about,
don't use it as accusation against the Lord.
Where we have that much release.
And this is a good thing.
This is not condemning to us that,
well, we just need to, we need to stop hanging onto things.
And we're just wrong and we're just bad
and we need to just stop.
Well, it is true that we need to stop,
but the stop is in allowing us to experience freedom.
That's what that is.
So the stopping is actually shifting into freedom.
God wants us as spirit beings to constantly be in motion, to constantly be flowing.
So if we grabbed a hold of something, it creates restriction and limitation.
And God insists that we always be free in every aspect of our life, in every aspect of our spirit life.
So if we grabbed a hold of something, trying to own it, thinking even again,
even if God says that he's given it to us and he's made this promise and all of that,
if we've grabbed a hold of it, we can stifle it.
And we're actually bringing the death that we're actually grabbing a hold of it in order to try to avoid.
So we have to actually let it go. So I'll tell you that you can implement.
I know we are jumping right into that thicket things tonight because I didn't I didn't.
I could have waited for this really, really heavy one later because it's a very, very heavy weight.
But it's so important because it truly is the foundation of everything that you can use some of the things that we'll be talking about.
And you can get some results because there's an aspect of a measure for us that you can that you can be exposed to and shift into.
But ultimately, ultimately, everything you will be required to die to it.
So I highly recommend my own personal experience.
Die to it early instead of later. Oh, well, you know what? I'll die to it after I get it going.
Because then I then it'll be going and I'll be safe and I will.
It'll be it'll be working for me. And while it's working for me, then it'll be self-sustaining enough that it can be kind of I won't have to be.
I won't have to have my my hands in it as much for it to still work and it still be profitable and it still be successful.
And then while it's new, while it's doing its thing and I get to benefit from it.
OK, now I can afford to die to it. That doesn't work.
I'm afraid it doesn't work. So I just highly recommend personal experience many, many times in my life to let it go now.
And the thing it it all sounds good. We all know that we should.
But to actually let something die, in other words, to let go of our ownership doesn't mean it's not going to happen.
It just means letting go of our ownership so that we can't hold God accountable to it happening in a particular way.
But, you know, emotionally holding God accountable to it, offered working in a particular way.
We're completely giving that up. We're completely giving up our idea of what it will look like, not should look like, not our idea of it.
Know what it will look like.
We have to we have to release.
So this is how I usually try to word it is we I recommend that you actually in order to truly shift interest, this this will help.
Now, as we're more mature. No, we don't have to do this. But because hope is triggering for us.
I highly recommend, again, from personal experience, you even release hope.
So I know that that might sound very, very extreme, but we just like the idea of work that we don't understand how to separate activity from strife until we shift into rest.
And then God begins to teach us, OK, this whole thing of rest. Now, let's do rest during activity.
Before that, though, we had to sometimes stop all activity. Sometimes this is how the Lord takes some people through it. Stop all activity in order to get the idea of rest.
Then God's like, OK, now that we understand this idea of rest that you were unfamiliar with before. Now let's take that into activity.
So let's start adding activity. Let's start doing activities from this place.
So that's what I recommend to you all with hope, if you're struggling, if you're struggling or if you're wondering whether or not you are and you're truly giving it up.
And if it was easy to get a give up. I'm going to tell you that ninety nine point nine nine nine percent of the time.
It means you actually didn't give it up. If it was easy.
It was if you feel peace if you feel that well, I know God's in control and I know that he has it all that's not rest and that's not giving up ownership.
With there's actually a complete inside and spiritual
Release that that you are no longer connected to it. You're no longer attached to it because remember when we are down in the soul or we're down in the body were make if we make those types of connections down there. It means to something, then it means that
And it means that we can be affected by them.
And it means that we're not completely free and God wants his sons to know that they are always free and that they are governing
And that they are governing over those laws they are governing over their business governing over their ministry, whatever.
That they are not subject to and submitted to what just happens to them. What happens to them. What comes at them, how the business ends up working out, you know, God wants us to understand that we are that we're free from those things.
Anyway, so going back to going back to the hope thing. I do recommend that you even let go of hoping for it.
Doesn't mean that you're saying to yourself, it will never happen. That's an accusation against God. Oh, well, it won't happen. No, no, but you are giving up hope because right now, most likely
And I don't want to declare this over anybody. I'm just saying that if you are struggling to actually give it up. I recommend giving up hope.
Because that will finally that will help you finally let it go and help you and create a separation, but the idea of giving up hope is not the same thing as saying, well, it won't happen.
It's not the same thing. But this hope is this yearning this leaning this longing for it. And we don't know how to long and yearn sometimes in a godly way without grabbing a hold of it.
Hope is a wonderful thing. Remember faith, hope, and love these three, but the greatest of these is love. Remember all of those things. It's a beautiful, wonderful thing.
But we need to allow the Lord to redeem these words for us because we are used to operating according to the old man that that attributed work to everything, including hope or attributed attributed an aspect of
Ownership or holding God accountable for it or or whatever. So I do rec I so if any of y'all are end up taking all of this before the Lord and giving up your, your business, your, your ministry and all of that and you're struggling to do it.
Because it will feel like a death, by the way, when you do it, but because you're giving it to a book, you're giving it to a being that you love, and that you're choosing that whatever he says is true that whatever he says about himself is true.
Then you are choosing to to be safe with him, you are choosing that you are safe with him. You may not feel safe. You may not feel it, but you're choosing that you are safe with him. And therefore, that then I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
And so therefore, I am. That's why I recommend that if you're struggling to go ahead and and to release to release the hope, because it will help sever the connection that is that you're that our understanding of hope is can is attached to.
It's severing that connection. So we didn't know how to sever the thing from hope, while keeping the hope and severing thing. So because it's so attached to hope. So if you let go of hope, it'll let go of the other thing, then you'll finally have given it up.
You'll finally be shifted into rest, you'll finally have given up ownership, and now God can show you how to hope in a pure way without it being affected by and connected to that other thing that's actually resisting rest.
That's actually creating a claim to the business, the dream, the ministry, the whatever. So that for whatever it is, for whatever is unhelpful.
But like I said, it's not the same thing as saying that God won't as well, you know, if I don't hope anymore, it means that I believe that God won't do it. No, no.
And it's not true at all. Because again, that would be accusation against God, God said he was going to do something like no, well, apparently he's just not going to do it. No, we don't want to accuse the Lord, but we do give up hope, that aspect of just hope.
to releasing that ownership of that emotional tie
that we have to it.
That is the foundation of what we need to do
in order to begin to step into a place
where now we're free from the business.
Remember, everything that God is doing
whenever we're struggling is always an invitation
into greater love and greater freedom.
The same thing with the business.
The business and the ministry is not something
that God's given you and saying,
oh my goodness, you know, your identity in the earth
is to help people in this way.
This is how people are gonna remember you.
This is gonna bring my kingdom into earth.
And the only way that you can is through writing this book
or through starting this program
or doing whatever, hogwash.
I was at hogwash.
It's one option that you have
that you can, through which you can bring heaven into earth.
Anyway, so just like still have a little bit of a call,
but it's going away.
Thank goodness.
So anyway, I,
I may have said everything that I wanted to about that.
Let me see if I have before I go on to the next thing.
I think we might be good on that.
So when God, so what to do now,
what to do after you have actually let something die.
Now that you've released ownership,
you're no longer operating from
and making decisions from a place of fear
because you're now disconnected from it.
You are now free.
Like what we were just mentioning thing.
You're now free because you're no longer connected
because you've released ownership.
So now you're shifted up into this place.
And from this place, you can now govern.
You can now see through the eyes of God.
You can now feel and experience things
through the heart of the father
and pour that into your business.
So it's a lot easier to make decisions from that place.
What do we want to do together?
What do we want it to look like?
When do we start it?
And when do we step into it?
And he's going to have his ideas.
And then he's going to want to know your ideas as well.
So I always recommend opening yourself up.
Well, I say this, I do it both ways.
If ever I kind of have a question,
then I will ask the,
then I will position my spirit towards the Lord.
And I'll be like, okay, Lord,
what is it that you want to do?
You know, I'm in rest.
I remember my identity.
I know who, I know I'm abiding in you.
I know who it is that you are
and therefore who it is that I am.
And from this place, Lord,
I am completely content, completely in that.
What do you want to do?
Do you have anything special on your heart,
special on your mind
that you would like us to do with the business
or with the ministry or whatever?
And sometimes he'll give direction.
And sometimes he doesn't.
And then we can then present our ideas.
Lord, what do you think about this?
What do you think about that?
And you just, and you don't have to have actual,
you know, sit down conversations with the Lord.
This can be while you're doing dishes.
It could be while you're brushing your teeth
and you're not,
and understand that not all of this
is going through your head.
It's going through your spirit.
You're just kind of mulling things over.
You're just, it's the way that I think of it
is it's kind of like taking your spirit
and sending feelers out.
You know, just kind of like,
where am I sensing something moving out in the spirit?
You know, do I sense anything different?
Do I sense anything that has weight to it,
has substance to it?
And anyway, so that this having,
this presenting things before the Lord
is a posture that we have before the Lord
more than necessarily having to force ourselves
to articulate something,
articulate particular questions.
Lord, what am I supposed to do?
Do you want me to do this?
Or do you want me to do this?
Or should I do this?
You can ask the Lord all those questions.
I just wanted you to know that you remind us
that we are bigger and broader than that.
We are more than our minds.
We're the whole rest of our soul. We're the whole rest of our spirit.
And you know, and we're our body as well. There's a lot to us. We are three, four,
however many D. I don't know how many dimensions that we actually go in. But the thing is,
allow the whole aspect of you is going to be going into this business, is going to be going
into this ministry. So allow the whole aspect of you to present yourself in a posture before the
Lord of what do we want to do and be very open to, to feeling certain things inside yourself
that you might not even have to force through your head yet that you just kind of feel are in there.
And, and like I said, you may not have words for it. I didn't, I did not have words for it. And
I just told the Lord, there is something in me and it needs to come out. Then I just went on
a journey of discovery to figure out what that thing was to figure out what started coming up
out of me. So I tried different things. I would bring this up out of me. I would bring this up
out of me. I would bring up something else. And I realized, oh, wow, that didn't come up out of me.
That came out of my head. It came out of what I thought I should do, or what I thought I should
be, or who I thought that I was, who I believed that I was. So I just started experimenting.
And, um, I went on this, uh, this, uh, journey of discovery and exploration, and I highly
recommend that. But, um, what I was going back to what I was saying that since things in yourself
as well, uh, maybe things of who it is that you are in this spirit, that's never actually had
expression. It's never had expression in the things that you've done, or maybe it hasn't
since childhood. So it has at some point, but it was childhood and somehow it got stifled.
We got stifled because maybe you thought that it was a bad thing, or maybe you thought, yeah,
but you just can't make any money from that. Or maybe people laughed at you or, or whatever,
or, you know, it could be something that you've literally never put form or words to. Also,
there's another thing, I'm just throwing out all kinds of things tonight. Um, also there,
there could be things in you, but you only understand them being able to be expressed
through, excuse me, being able to be expressed in a particular way. Like, what can I think of?
Say, okay, like, say, for instance, you're an artist. That one's going to be an easier one for
me to make us make an example of, uh, say that you're an artist and you've only ever, I don't
know, done watercolor. So your thought is, okay, God, I know that this is within me. This is a deep
desire of my heart. I just love this, but understand that you, what it is that might be in
you. I would recommend that you open yourself up in the safety of the Lord. You're abiding in the
Lord. And trust me, the Lord is such a safe place in which to dream being out of him, trying to do
it on your own. Yes. No wonder we felt that all of our dreams were crushed being in him and abiding
in him and dreaming from that place is a very safe place. God loves it. When we dream, when
we're in him, because for a multitude of reasons, uh, uh, one of which just like a child playing,
you know, he loves the fact that we're, we want to experiment. We want to play with things. We
want to see, well, does it work like this? Does it work like this? I don't know what would happen
if I do this. And we're doing all kinds of things that are quote unquote wrong, but we're just
playing with it. And God's like, I love it because you are showing interest in an appreciation for
my creation. And you were, you are fascinated to learn what it is, who it is that I am because
creation is an expression of me. God says, so he loves it. He loves when we dream in him. But
anyway, God is a very safe place in which to be in, in which to, to dream. So when you are
dreaming and when you're exploring, just like what I was mentioning, um, just while ago about
like a kid playing, know that, be open to the fact that what it is that you thought
was in you that you thought, well, that, that expression of that in the earth
means that I have to be able to do watercolor. It may not be. It may be that watercolor,
painting in watercolor is the only way in which you have expressed something in you
that's deeper than the fact that you're a painter, watercolor painter.
It's actually deeper than that, and it's been expressed.
The only experience that you've had of that thing in you being expressed was through painting
and watercolor.
But it doesn't mean that what is in you is a painter of watercolor.
It's something else that came out in that expression.
So I recommend broaden your horizons to allow the Lord to show you and you go on an exploration
and discovery journey to figure out, okay, what is the deeper thing that this thing,
this mode that I used to always operate in, what is the deeper place in me that is fueling
that?
What is the deeper thing in me that's actually coming alive when I'm doing that?
And understand that the Lord and you might choose to express that in a totally different
model, a totally different medium, where, I don't know, maybe you'd start, maybe you'd
start being a metal sculptor, or maybe you'd start designing business systems.
I'm an extremely creative person, and I did not know that.
I thought that I was not a creative person, and I discovered that I actually am.
And part of the way that I discovered it was actually watching me interact in business,
because I would build processes and systems, and I loved being able to come up with creative
solutions to figure out what do I have to work with and how can I get it to all work
together to get a particular result that I have in mind?
That is being creative.
So being creative isn't just in one particular art form, like painting.
It could be in anything.
So I wanted us to know that we don't already know, even if you know what things make you
feel alive, we don't already know why they make us feel alive, like in other words, what
that root is, and we are not, and very, very important, we are not limited to that expression
that we've been exposed to thus far.
We're bigger than that.
We are in God, because God is limitless.
In God, we're limitless.
We could express that thing, that spirit within us that causes you to come to life, that can
be expressed in all kinds of different ways.
And you will discover things that you never even knew were possible for a job.
I mean, I can't tell you, I mean, how many other people do you know that for a living,
they travel and they talk to other people about how to enter God's rest?
I had never heard of that in my life.
And here I am just doing it.
I didn't know, because I was doing all the traditional things, right?
I was doing the business thing, and then I'm doing life coaching, and I'm looking for
something, and okay, very important, looking for something outside of me to tell me who
I am.
What do I resonate, what's been done before, what are other people doing, because apparently
I fall into that category.
Remember, that's what we've been taught with a personality test and with things like, I
don't know, the desk and Myers-Briggs or whatever, and the Enneagram, Enneagram, I don't, I never
remember how to pronounce it.
You know, all the numbers, you know, what, one through nine or one through 10 or whatever
it is, or is it more than that?
I don't know, I haven't read it, but all of those things that we're used to thinking,
I fit into a category, someone else can tell me something about myself, or a test can tell
me something about myself.
No, no, no, your God is who tells you about yourself, and he's limitless, so you have
no idea what's in you and what might come out.
And when, if you pick something that you, and you and the Lord do something that you
think that you might think of as more quote unquote traditional or expected, know that
you will have a very unique stamp on it because you are bringing heaven to earth.
Meaning that when it's something's coming from heaven into earth, it's never been seen
on the earth before, and you're going to bring that.
So anyway, I'm trying to free you because we believe in believing that there are limitations.
to how God can operate, or how he does operate, or how he will operate, or what we're going
to be happy with, or whatever, is very restrictive, and it's death.
That's what limitation is, is it's death.
So spirit is life, spirit is movement, and spirit is limitlessness.
So when I'm talking about all of these things, I know that I'm talking about things from
like a 35,000 foot view, but these things are foundational, they're so very important,
because if I can teach you how to fish, instead of just giving you the fish, then you will
be able to go farther, faster, instead of just giving you some formula, or do this and
do that.
No, if I can, if we can start, if we can break out of this box that we're in, then, and that
we have restricted ourselves, and the Lord, and our relationship with him, and how our
business and ministry, together with God, works, because that's how everybody else's
works.
Well, of course, that's how everybody else's works, because they were limited.
They chose to approach God with a limited perspective, and that was the only way in
which they would allow God to interact with them, was according to limitedness.
So if we want to operate in more freedom, and if we want to operate from a place of
rest, because rest is in God, and God is limitless, all of these connections, then it's important
for us to start from the foundation of not having a box, and when we do that, being in
the heart of the Father, and operating from spirit, then you're going to have a clearer
spiritual perspective on what it is that the Lord has given you, and who it is that you
are, and you will find it, you will nurture it, because God will have given you a word,
and you will have received that word, and then that seed, and your seed of intention
of joining together with the Lord, will interact, excuse me, will conceive something, and be
planted in you, remember, because the seed is planted in the female, and just like we
are the bride of Christ.
So the church, and you, that seed, so to speak, dies within you, and in the fact that you
can't see it, and it goes through this nurturing period, it goes through this time where God's
going to, God and you together, are going to water it, and you might not be aware of
everything that you're doing in your life, that seems completely unrelated to the business,
or the ministry that God's going to call you to, or that's calling, you know, is saying
that, recommending that y'all move towards, or whatever, and but God's like, no, no, no,
that's actually fertilizing it, that's watering it, that's giving it sun, or whatever.
So that's why sometimes things that God will give us, we'll feel that they'll sit there
for a while, and we, and it feels like it's died, it just, it, we can't see a difference,
we can't see a change, and God's like, no, no, all of these other things that you and
I are doing together, our relationship together, and how our relationship is developing, it
is doing multiple things, it is nurturing it, and it is preparing your body to deliver
it, and it's, and what does a woman also do while, while she's waiting for the baby, especially
the closer that she gets to, to delivering the baby, she goes through nesting, right?
Every woman understands that, and you know, even, you know, in other countries, it's just,
it's just the feminine, you know, we, we nest, we prepare, so our bodies are being,
are being prepared, so we're nurturing the seed, our body is being prepared to deliver
the thing, and then we're preparing the outside environment to be able to receive the thing.
That's what the bride does, that's what the bride of Christ does, that's what the church
does, that's what you do when God is giving you this seed for a business or for a ministry,
because you are co-creating with him, excuse me, you're co-creating with him, you came
up with ideas as well, that these aren't, aren't just his ideas, so I want you to do
this, blah, blah, blah, it's, God's like, hey, why don't you and I do this together?
You're like, okay, all right, let's do that, and then God's like, okay, how do you think
we should do it?
How do you want to do it?
What do you think it should look like?
What color do you think it should be?
I don't know, just, just whatever, because God supplies, the, the, the male provides
one strand of the DNA, and the, and then the mother provides the other strand of DNA.
Remember that? That DNA is, um, uh, if I remember correctly, it is, um, that, uh, is it that the,
oh, well, I'm not going to get into all of the details of all of that because I probably don't
remember all the specifics. I used to teach all of that stuff. So I'm going to have to go back
and remember, but anyway, that the male and the female both supply DNA, both of them equal,
equal, fascinatingly, the man determines the gender. So God has an aspect in which
he's determining things in which he has, um, he has the, um, higher say, so to speak,
but there's still an equality in it as well. The more that we're matured in faith,
the more of an equality that we have, uh, as far as like, um, coming up with ideas and, and,
and, um, whether or not God's just like, okay, well, yeah, sure. We'll do it your way. I really
like my idea, but if you're very, if you're very set on your idea, sure. We'll do that,
you know, because I want you to contribute to this and this is what you really want to do.
And so like, sure, why not? You know? Um, but, uh, anyway, so I just wanted to mention that
there's all kinds of things that are going on while you're waiting, you know, while you're
waiting for the business to come or the ministry to come or do something to look,
you're nurturing something that you can't see. You're nurturing it. All of these things that
you think are that the Lord, uh, that you and the Lord are doing together in your life right now
look like they don't have anything whatsoever to do with the, with this vision or this dream
that you have, or that the Lord has given you and say, no, it's preparing.
It's nurturing the thing. So the thing is growing and then you're in, and you yourself are being,
are being prepared to actually birth this thing out into the world. And at the same time,
you're preparing the environment to receive the thing. So you're preparing the thing,
you're preparing to deliver the thing, and you're preparing the environment to receive the thing.
There's a lot of stuff going on. Um, and it's all very, very important because it aids in the
success of the thing, because imagine if the environment was not prepared for, um, for,
you know, the baby to be delivered, you know, what if it was delivered into a fire? Well,
then the baby has no hope, right? You know, what if the, what if the body was not being prepared to
deliver and to deliver the child? So, you know, if we're talking about like a normal way of
birthing a child, um, uh, through the canal, as opposed to like Syrian section,
if the body wasn't prepared, what happens? The child dies and the mother, because it can't ever
get out. Right. So it's important that all of these things are very, very important. They're
very important in the spiritual realm as well, related to, um, uh, preparing business or the
ministries. And during all, uh, during what we think of as like time delays, we have all this
accusation against the Lord. Why hasn't happened yet? Why hasn't happened yet? And God's like,
you do know that all of these things need to be in place for this to actually succeed when it
comes out. For one thing, it's not fully grown. So it will die if it's delivered too soon. For
another, you have to have a way to deliver it, to release this thing. You know, this business
ministry to release it into the world. And, um, uh, and just like a woman going through childbirth
might be a lot of pain involved. Uh, there might be a lot, not a lot of due to the fact,
obviously, because pain, childbirth came, you know, through, uh, because of the fall.
So, uh, it's not that God always intended pain to be required in order for something to birth into
creation in order for something to actually be created and to manifest like a business or
whatever to, to manifest into your, but what, why is there pain? If there's pain in their struggle,
it's because there's, there's accusation that we have against the Lord. So when sometimes when
we're trying to birth a business or ministry and the steps that you're trying to go through,
um, you're trying to form this with this, your, you know, your, your state, and you're trying to
set up a bank account and you're trying to, I don't know, set up a website and everything's
right. Um, well, well, if, if we're struggling with it, then, then that's an element in which
we have accusation against God. I'm not being provided for, I'm not safe. This isn't working
or whatever. That's what that pain is. That's what that struggle is. Um, there can also be an
aspect of the fact that creation, um, uh, well, no, I'm not going to mention that because that's
just going to get very confusing. I'm trying to make this very.
simple, but know also that there's a stretching that's going to be required in part of the
preparation of the body because the body, the woman's body prepares in all kinds of ways,
you know, for months before actually unbirthing the baby, but getting close to the birth of the
baby, the woman's body changes a lot and it stretches, it pushes boundaries, especially
for her first baby. It's never stretched before. It's moving into new territory,
but the body, remember, knows what to do. So you might feel stretched. You might feel like,
okay, I'm moving into new territory here and I am not used to this and I don't know,
I'm, Lord, this is very unfamiliar. I don't know what's going on. I don't,
this somehow Lord just doesn't feel right. Something about this doesn't seem right.
It's, it's just remember what happens in, in, um, in birth that the Lord, that, um,
the way to stop the pain is to relax, to let the body, because it's when we tense up,
that it's restricting the muscles from relaxing and being able to be stretched, right? Because
it's keeping them from doing that, right? So that's why women are taught Lamont's breathing,
to teach them how to relax their body because it will allow it to be less painful and will allow,
it will allow the body to do what it has always been intended to do. It's the same thing for us
when we're, when we're watching all of these changes and we're trying to like do things and
it's just not working for us. And why is everything against us? And, uh, or why is
it taking so much time or whatever our accusation is, right? If we relax, it will not be as painful
and it will go faster. So we, but we have to let it go. You just have to let it go and then
enjoy the process. Enjoy actually doing this thing with the Lord, moving with him. Um, there is,
I don't know, there's, there's just always movement and activity with God in spirit.
Enjoy what it is that you're seeing, what it is that you're going through, what it is you're
experiencing. And I have discovered this my own, um, in my own life. And I don't know how to express
how wonderful that it is that to be in unfamiliar territory and enjoy it. I mean, like really,
really enjoy it. Um, and you're like, I don't know what's going on. I've never been here before.
Lord, am I doing it right? Is this how it's supposed to happen? Is something wrong? Should
I change something? And, and, and, and, you know, you start to question things. And so if I just let
go and just like I can, I think that I should do this and I'm feeling you over here. So I'm going
to try this. I think I'm feeling you over here. So I'm going to try this and I'm just going to
allow everything to be, I'm not going to worry about what's going to happen. Um, excuse me.
Um, and if we, if, if you just relax, instead of fighting what feels unfamiliar or fighting,
what keeps trying to change, then it, it will not only will you enjoy the process because
your focus will be on God and you're like, God, this is fun because you and I are moving together.
Sure. I don't know what we're doing, but at least you do, but you and I are moving together and I'm
enjoying moving with you. It's a dance. You're moving with God when you're on a dance floor.
Are you actually doing anything? Are you going somewhere? No, you're dancing in a circle. You're
just, you're moving and you're just enjoying the movement and you're enjoying moving with someone
else, especially if it's like a, like a, you know, a couples dance, you're moving with someone else.
I mean, when you think about dancing, it's really in some ways can seem like the oddest thing
because it's a human that is moving their body and you're not going anywhere. So if you're,
if you think about it, it could seem very, very odd. And yet we all know inherently,
especially when we move, like, Oh no, this just feels right. This feels good.
And you enjoy moving with someone else. And so you'll notice that when you're in unfamiliar
territory and you're like, and you're like, okay, things are changing. Lord, things are stretching.
I don't know why things don't seem to be working or they are working, but I don't really know what
it's doing. And Lord, is this right? I'm not sure if this is right. You know, am I being thwarted
or is this supposed to happen? You know, am I supposed to go with the flow?
If you relax and enjoy it with the Lord, as opposed to being so uptight that something's
going wrong and you aren't prepared for it and you're going to be attacked and you are going
to be victimized, if you approach it like that, it's going to create death and you're more likely
to be attacked and victimized because you determined it in your mind that that's what's
going to happen. Because however we frame things in our mind is how we frame the world in which we
live. So if we just let go and we enjoy it with the Lord, the Lord will show us and tell us what
to do, when to do it. And because we're just moving and flowing with him, everything will
not only go easier and faster, but you'll enjoy it. I promise you, I promise you. But in order
for this to work, in order to actually experience this, in order to live this, we have to surrender
it. We have to let, we have to let go of the ownership completely. It's really, really fun.
I promise you that. Um, so, um, okay, before we move on, um, we are going to, what time is it?
So it's eight. Um, I wanted to, um, give us just a, um, I would say like a five minute break. We'll come
back at like, say, um, I don't know, five minutes. Um, I don't know, like around eight, 12. Um, and then
we will, um, we'll do our last session and then we'll do a Q and A. So people can use the restroom,
people can get a glass of water, whatever it is that you need to do. And then we will jump back on.
So I'm going to turn my camera off, but we will, like I said, jump back on. What did I say?
Well, let's just make it easy. And let's just say eight 15. It's eight 15 for me, nine 15 for those
of you on the, on the East coast. And so we'll just give ourselves a little bit of a break.
We'll jump back on. And cause I know that this is a two and a half hour session. So I wanted to make
sure that we had a break in here somewhere for, for everyone. And then we'll jump back on and
keep going. So I'll be right back.
Okay.
you
uh, to create, to everything is created. So let me back up and rephrase that. Everything
you
is created from rest. Everything that is created that actually gives life is created from us.
you
There are other things that can be created from unrest, but everything that is creates
you
life in your business and that can bring transformation in someone's business is created from place
of rest. So just wanted to point that out. Um, now rest is not just so that we can understand
this. Um, Oh, by the way, let me, let me mention this as well. I keep thinking of all kinds
of things that I think might be helpful. I understand that a lot of these things that
we may have heard before, and some of you, if not all of you are thinking, it might be
thinking that some of what I've talked about, you've heard before, know that if you are
struggling with your, with your business, or you're struggling with some idea of what
it, uh, the idea of what it is that you think that God has told you to do. Um, you're just
like, you know, I, I'm at rest and I just, I'm just here and I'm just, I want to make
sure that I'm listening. I want to make sure that I'm hearing, I want to make sure that
I know what he's telling me to do. Um, or, um, or you're in the middle of it and you're
just wondering, I just want to make sure I'm on the right track or I want to know how to
change it or whatever your question is. Everything always goes back to the same basic principles.
So revisiting things that you already know is extremely helpful because that's where
the solution is. There's not a new solution to all of these new ideas or these, this new,
these new situations that you're in. The situations are new, but the principles used to be used
within those situations are always the same. Remember God actually is very simple in, in,
in the fact that the laws that he's created and the way that everything works is extremely
simple. It's not juvenile. So we, we've often, you know, we've often married of simplicity
with two, uh, within a childishness. It's not, it's not juvenile. It's not childishness,
but it is, it's simple. It's in, it's, this is the way that it is. And it's always this
way. And therefore it's just very simple because everything comes from the character of the
Lord. So just know that if you are hearing anything that I'm saying, you're thinking,
Oh, I already know this. I already heard this, whatever. Try to ask the Lord to expand you
in the spirit to know how you have gotten it to a particular level, but now you want
to take it into a deeper level so that you can experience the freedom that you've been
experiencing, that you can now experience it in another area. Um, and, uh, and then
just go deeper and deeper with the Lord like that. You'll always be coming back to the
exact same principles, the same things that, you know, it's not new. There's nothing new
under the sun. It's the same thing. And, and, uh, for instance, you know, if you, if you,
if you're struggling with something, one of the things is go back to, uh, that go back to the,
to open yourself up more in vulnerability and intimacy with the Lord that you might
receive more of his love. And that will shift you into new levels in every area of your life.
So, I mean, everything goes back to the same things. And that, so the struggle can kind of
be like, we, we think that we're in so much, we can be in so much of a habit that, uh, well in
school, whenever I would run into something new, it meant that there was something that I hadn't
learned that far, you know? So, and I just didn't know well. And so know that for, for rest and,
and, and all of that, everything that I'm talking about, in fact, the longest, I really struggled
with some of this because I thought, why, what do I have to, to keep teaching people? I've already
taught it. I've already taught it multiple times. I've discovered that we're, that we struggle
sometimes to make the connection when we come into new, uh, come into new, uh, circumstances and
situations to know that the things that we already know are to be applied in these new situations,
because these new situations are taking us into a deeper level and a deeper level by releasing
more and more of the accusation that we've had against the Lord. We can now move into
new levels of freedom that we have never experienced. So, but we use the same principles
in order to do that. So just, just think about that whenever.
You might think, okay, well, I've exhausted what Ashley talked about in that business conference,
and so now I need something new. I need a new and fresh revelation.
Ask the Lord to give you a fresh revelation of what he's already said.
Take it into a deeper understanding of what it is that you already do know. Expand it for you,
and you will discover that it takes on colors and nuances and a shape that you did not know
when you first heard it. So, for instance, for me, I have particular preachers or teachers
that I listen to, and I go back and watch the same videos over and over and over again,
but I'll allow, you know, time lapse in between, like, you know, several months or whatever,
or maybe just a few weeks, but I'll go back and listen, and every time I do,
I learn something new, and I'm thinking, how many times have I watched this guy's teaching,
you know, and I'll learn something new, because whatever it is that I learned before, I walked
out, and I owned it, and so in my mind, I could think, well, I've exhausted everything that I
talked about. You know, I already know all of this stuff, but there's always a greater level
of manifestation that I can experience in my life by taking those same principles and going to a
deeper level, so if I go back and re-watch their teaching, now my energy is not being expended
learning this, and so now that I got this, then now from here down, this is now exposed, and I
never saw that before, so now I have a grid from which to hear things that he was saying that I
never heard, I didn't remember hearing before, and yet how many times that I watched that teaching,
but now I have a grid for it, because I took the information that I got from him,
you know, from, you know, from so-and-so, and then I go, and then I own it, and now that I own it, I've
got a grid to be able to understand the rest of what they talked about, I mean, so I just wanted
to mention that as an encouragement, because I cannot tell you the number of times that people
come to me with questions, and I have clients tell me that they finally realize, okay, Ashley, I'm now
getting it that you now always give us the same answers to all of our questions, it's always the
same answer, something, you know, it's always the same answers, that I try to word it in such a way that they
could see the connection between what it is I was talking about in this thing, this new situation
that they ran into, that they didn't understand that it was actually, that what it is that they
already knew applied to it, they thought, oh, I now need new information, I now need new understanding,
so just wanted to encourage us, we, everything is very simple, they're just, new circumstances
are simply deeper levels, deeper levels of, to be able to shift into REST. Okay, so
remember, you know, we're not learning new things, we are learning how to apply the same things
in new areas, that's all it is. Okay, yeah, all right, so talking just really quickly about
about REST, remember, because this has come up recently, so I wanted to just go over this really
quickly, so REST is not just having peace, that COD could do something, say, if it gives you
business, ministry idea, or you're in the business or ministry idea, and you're struggling with
it, with the fact that something isn't, that you're not getting a particular result out of it,
maybe your clients aren't coming, or I don't know, you, something isn't working, something isn't
working, so REST is not just having peace, knowing that God could do something,
it's actually knowing that God will always be loving, and always be good, no matter what's
happening, that's what REST is. REST has nothing whatsoever to do with your circumstance, nothing,
so your circumstance can go to hell in a handbasket, and you'll still be in REST.
Remember that Jesus, and I use this example so many times, that Jesus was asleep in the boat,
and it said that the water was, you know, lapping up, you know, splashing over the sides onto him,
and he's probably getting knocked about a bit, you know, in the boat with all the rocking and
hitting, I don't know, maybe even his head was hitting the wood, you know, back and forth,
I don't know, whatever it was, he didn't even find it important enough to wake up,
let alone do something about it, so the thing is that,
that it doesn't, we can be at REST, and the circumstances can do whatever, they don't
dictate whether or not we're at REST, we don't need our circumstances to be a particular way
in order for us to be at REST, so being at REST is not believing that God can do something about
your circumstances, or could if you wanted to, it's believing it has nothing whatsoever to do
with the circumstance, there's no word as circumstance actually in the sentence,
the sentence actually is,
is that, is, is that rest is knowing that God always will be loving and good and always is
loving and good no matter what my circumstances are. That is finally being at rest, not knowing
this isn't good enough, you know, believing, owning, choosing, not just knowing that we should
believe it, not just thinking that, Oh, I know it's true. And so I'm trying to convince myself
actually willfully and intentionally choosing something, um, that is actually going to, um,
uh, uh, choosing that God choosing God's character is where you're going to find rest,
not in what God's, how God's character might manifest. So very important.
Rest is, is choosing that God is who he says that he is not that God can do what he said he would
do. So, um, so, uh, okay. Barty mentioned that. Okay. Now talking about the rest of it,
that was important to know and important to remember when, because now what we're going
to talk about is how to, is the actions that we can start taking. So all of that was a good,
was a foundation. Um, but, um, when, so starting to make,
uh, make decisions from a place of rest, we've talked about this before, but I would like to
mention, um, talk about it specifically in context of making business decisions, because making
decisions from a place of rest, if you're talking about when it, for instance, the example that I
told you about, um, uh, where I was in Walmart, I mentioned this in the, in the conference where I
was in Walmart and I was making a decision between two fans. Well, that was a very serious decision
for me because I did not have much money. And I was, and so therefore, because of that, I,
it put me in a position where I was more ready, uh, to take up the opportunity to choose what,
who I believed that God was and to act on it. But, um, so, um, so that,
so if you possibly can't relate to that situation, know that, um, it's actually the same thing
as, as the decisions and the weight of the decisions that we're making in business, because
there can be a couple of, uh, we'll just talk about a couple of different things.
Well, let me actually broaden this. If we have things, and I'm just going to talk about a mother
and father wound, because we've talked about that before. So it's an easy thing to relate to
because they are very, very foundational wounds that we can experience that create particular
traumas in people's lives. Right. Um, so just as a refresher that a father wound comes from, um,
if the masculine in someone's life has not made them feel that they could expect to be
protected, provided for, or, um, that, uh, it, and they never felt that they received
an understanding of their sense of identity from this, uh, from whoever was that provided the
masculine in their lives. And then a mother wound can generate from someone, uh, when someone does
not feel that they can expect to be loved, liked, or comforted. So we project those things onto the
Lord. What are our business or ministry that we believe that God has told us to do, or that we
just desire to do whatever we're very often, if not possibly always trying to cope with one of
those six, um, uh, wounds, either from a, you know, father wound or mother wound where we are
seeking the business or the ministry to either identify us. In other words, give us a sense of
purpose. Give us a sense of who am I, what's my significance. Am I significant? You know,
am I helping people? Does God love me? Is he pleased with me? Am I fulfilling my destiny?
All of those things are actually us trying to seek an identity or seeking that God, uh, seeking to
make God love us, like us. Um, we are actually, if we don't expect that God will comfort us,
we are seeking the business or the ministry to provide some form of comfort, or we expect it to
provide for, or to protect us, um, you know, money, uh, fame, security, whatever. So we will
often approach business and ministry trying to cope with those traumas. You can learn an awful
lot about people from what they choose as a business or ministry, because usually people
provide service to someone of something that's that they greatly desire for themselves.
So whatever it is that generally someone wants for themselves, they will seek to provide for others.
That's why I teach by rest because I really want it. I want it and I seek it. You know,
I, it's very important to me in my relationship with the Lord. You will notice that a lot of
nurses are extremely, extremely compassionate people, extremely compassionate, but a lot of it
came from traumas and came from traumas in their own life and how they chose to then make, to then
provide something indirectly for themselves by providing it for someone else. It's really
fascinating. Same thing with coaches, case in point, consultants, I'm pointing a finger at
myself, you know, all of the, we, what it is that we desire to provide for someone else means that
it's very important to us. Now, it doesn't mean that everybody who's out there that is doing
something has a trauma that they're currently dealing with. And because it, but it, but it's
very often indicative of the fact that they have all that they have had it and have dealt with it.
And it was through the Lord and what it is that they experienced with the Lord and what it is
that he showed them in having walked through that, that the Lord said, okay, now walk others through
it because you've already overcome. So the path is now easier for others to follow through with,
to follow through on that path, because you already blazed the trail. A lot of people are
trying to do that before they're healed. And they're trying to pursue a business or a ministry
in efforts, because they, because the, whether consciously or subconsciously, they're trying to
pursue that healing for themselves as well. So just, just know that, by the way, and, and present.
So if, if you ever find yourself in a position where you desire something and you ask the Lord,
wait a minute, Lord, is that an area of my life in which that, in which I desire it, I desire
to do it because I'm actually trying to get the thing myself? Or is this from a place of
you have actually, this is actually coming up from within my spirit, giving me life,
and I'm now pouring it out into others. Am I trying to get something for myself or think that,
um, uh, or feels it's a lack in my area, there's some lack in some area in my life,
and I'm now trying to provide it for other people in hopes that I'll be able to get it.
So the reason I say that is if we're trying, um, cause that's a very heavy thing to say.
Um, so I, I understand, but here I want what my heart is not simply to tell other people
really nice things to make them spoke up at the time that they get off. I desire, if I was doing
that, I would just go around talking, but I get all kinds of talking engagements that I turned down.
But I, I don't go to because I just asked the Lord, okay, Lord, you and I together, which ones
do we want to do? Which ones do we know? Which ones are we going to speak at it or not speak
at, or is this the right time or whatever? Because it's not what God has put on my heart,
what God has put on my heart again, because of my past and, and what it is that he's, uh, and
me having walked through what I did. It's like, he opened my eyes to the fact that actually so
many people are being taught, but they don't know how to, how to do it, help them do it.
You felt alone. You felt like you did not have a mentor and you wanted one and you,
so you, you now understand and can see a deficit. So would you like to step in and help,
help, uh, uh, help someone else if they find themselves in that same deficit
so you can provide for other people, what you wish that you'd had. Now I got it from the Lord,
understand, but, um, um, anyway, so I sought to then be, but I had to ask the Lord, I couldn't
just like, oh, I just wanted to do this for other people. Um, I had to know because that won't be,
that won't help, wouldn't help me sustain this, sustain,
excuse me, sustain my, uh, my ministry. In other words,
Give me enough, enough energy, give me, there would be no spirit that it was flowing to be able to provide it life. If I was coming at it from the, from that perspective, I have to actually live it own it with the Lord, and that that is part of my relationship
with him. And it natural. And so what it is that I get to others in my in my ministry. That is just me living out loud where there's just this overflow of who it is that the Lord and I are together after what he and I have walked through.
And, and what the Lord has opened my eyes to and giving me a heart of hey actually you see that there's an empty place. Would you like to step into that because you've overcome in that area.
Would you like to step into that to provide that for other people so that it's easier for them to walk a path. It was very hard for you to walk. They still have to walk it you can't walk it for them they don't just get to arrive there just because you did.
It's, it's, it's easier would you like to do that and I said yes Lord. Yes, I would.
So, my point is that the reason why I bring all of this up is we can.
are.
If we are finding ourselves desiring to control the outcome, or we realize that our love for and desire for a ministry or a business or to help people or to serve people is so strong that we're struggling to get it up, or that we, we can't bear the thought that God might
take it away if we gave it to him, and he might have us do something else.
If we're really struggling with it, what it can.
What it can mean is that we have owned it because we are trying to provide something for ourselves.
think that we can't get healing.
If we are denied the opportunity to help show other people how they can be healed in a particular area, or, and I mentioned that one because I talked to lots of people, lots of people who who desire to help other people with healing from various hurts and whatever.
Or it could be I don't know, it could be something else but I'm just going to use that one as an example.
And so I don't say that in any way to condemn any of us. I put, you know, under, understand, that was my story.
The, the important thing is if you're wanting to live and operate and rest, and that's my desire, I'm not saying all of these things I try to say these things in the most, in the most gentle loving and freeing way I can, but I have to tell you the truth.
If you are actually going to have the opportunity.
In other words that have the.
If you can actually hear me say, and here are my words what it is that I'm saying, and how you can actually live this for yourself you can actually live and rest.
Then I want you to know that where you can find how you are actually owning something that you didn't know you were trying to own.
And how, because you're like, I have this, I keep trying to give it to the Lord, you know, and I and I have actually I've given it to him. So, if I've given it to him, why won't he let me do it.
If we still have that accusation and why won't he let me do it. We haven't committed.
Because we're still because giving it up means that we don't it meaning like giving up ownership, not giving up like, Oh, well, there's just, it's just never gonna happen I don't mean that but giving up that ownership.
And if we don't have that, if we, we haven't given up that ownership. If we are.
We still have an aspect of that, that an accusation against the Lord that, Lord, you know, you're not letting me.
You're not letting me move into my dream you're not letting my dream happen. It can be because we, we think that what it is that that God is doing is he is actually denying us the thing that we are trying to provide for ourselves by doing this for someone else.
And so what we're going to talk about is how to interact with other people.
When you're trying to give them something you want them to have something, and how to interact with your clients and how to have a healthier approach, and so that you can help them, and actually you can actually breathe life into the situation, so that they're
more likely to transform, then they're likely to, if you're trying to help them.
You're more likely to help them if you.
motivation is to not help them, than if your motivation is to help them. But I just wanted
to point that out, that that can be something that we can be trying to, that can be indicative
of the fact that we've tried to own something with the Lord. And okay, so talking about
making decisions. So if you say, for instance, you were wondering if God is telling you to do
something. So if you are wondering, okay, well, what's the next step now? Then what was the next
step of, I, you know, I think that God has given me a dream or a vision, and I'm wondering if now
is the right time. And I can't tell, is he telling me to do something or telling me to not do
something? So you just kind of, you keep your spirit open, you shift into rest for one thing,
release all of the ownership so that you're not operating out of fear, including fear of missing
what God is saying. If you have that fear that you're missing, what God is saying, you're not in
rest. Let that go, release that. No. Okay. It's all going to be okay. If you shift into rest,
then you're going to hear the father's heart. Then you're going to know, and you're not going
to miss anything. So you don't have to worry about it. All of these worries are worries of
the old man. Those are things that the old man worries about. The new man doesn't have to worry
about any of those because he's always going to do what the father wants him to do. He's always
going to hear the father because the father's always talking. He's not going to miss anything.
So we have to shift into, into new man and then operate from that place. But in order to operate
according to the new man, we have to give, we'll have to let go of the other first. So that's how
we have to do it first. You have to let go of whatever it is you want before God will be like,
okay, now you can have it, but you have to be prepared. Your ground has to be prepared. Just
like, you know, I said, you know, we have a seed and then we prepare, we prepare, we prepare the
seed, we prepare, um, uh, it to be delivered and we'll prepare the environment in which it's to
be received. God does the same thing with us. He's preparing us to be able to receive something that
he's given, uh, or that, and, uh, that he wants to, um, that he wants to birth out of us.
So, um, anyway, uh, so we're wondering, okay, you know, am I supposed to move now or am I not?
Is now, is now God's timing? Is it God's timing now? Or am I waiting for God's timing? All of
these, these very traditional, um, uh, cliches that we all use, but we, but nobody knows how
to navigate the deck and things. I mean, seriously, um, uh, I mean, what does waiting on the Lord
mean? Does that mean do something, not do something, wait for 20 years, not talk to him about
it, not ask him about it, not want it. I mean, what on earth is waiting on the Lord mean? Uh,
so here's what I would, um, uh, suggest always keep your spirit and heart open again, shifting
into the father. You now you can choose to operate from a place because you hear the father's heart.
You're no longer in fear. So you're not making a decision of how to step out and win based on
fear. You're actually doing it out of intentional will of the son of God. This is what I will
to do me and God. This is how I will it. And then you approach it from that perspective.
Um, so when you are, so the first thing, when you want to know how to make a decision, shift into
release and let go. So that if God doesn't even give you an answer, you're okay, because you don't
need it because you let go enough to the point where you're okay. If God never answers you,
if it's releasing that much ownership, you let go of the fact that God doesn't even have to
answer you. Then you shift into rest. And once you're there, you're like, oh, wow. Now I have
the thing that I thought that I needed the answer in order to provide me. I don't even have the
answer. And because I shifted it into rest, I found what it was. I thought that the answer
could give me, I found that in God. Now I don't even need to know the answer. So now that you're
free again, shifting up into the spirit, shifting into rest, your freedom. That's what rest is
operating from freedom, operating from rest, operating from freedom. Now that you're completely
free, now you can make a decision in the heart of God. And according to your heart's desires,
which are very good things, not your heart's desires, where they are filtered through this
idea of fear. I'm trying to provide for and protect myself because, and I'm calling it the
desire of my heart hogwash. You know, you're in, sorry, that I'm a Texan. So I use hogwash
shifting into the spirit, shifting to rest and operating from that place.
Then you can now, now you are free to choose. Okay. I can do anything.
Lord, what do you and I want to do together? Do we want to wait?
Do you want to wait? If you want to wait, I'm fine with that because it can't give me something I
don't already have. I already have the thing because I'm now in rest. We already have the
thing that the business or the ministry, when I was in fear, was supposed to provide for me.
I can't wait till this happens. I can't wait till people know about me. I can't wait till money comes
in. I can't wait till I get clients. I can't wait and learn when and why isn't it happening yet and
where you told me to do that fear. We're shifted into rest. We have the thing. We have the rest
and we understand that being at rest means that we are choosing that we're completely
sustained by God's character in every area of our lives, including the provision, the protection,
identity, love, like, and comfort that we expected the business or the ministry to give us.
Now that we already have it, we could wait 20 years for the business or ministry.
You know, in the hall of faith, Hebrews 11, it says they all received their,
they all, sorry, my battery on my phone. Oh, here we go. My battery off my phone
says it's dying. We can't have that. Let me see if I can bring this up, bring it a little closer.
Um, I have to move this. Um, anyway, um, it says that they never saw the things that they were
promised and yet they had faith. Let me make sure this is charging. It's not. There we go. Maybe
it's charging now. Oh, no, it's still not charging. Oh dear. This is not cool. Maybe.
There we go. Okay. Technology. I normally always make sure that all my stuff
is plugged in and ready to go and struggling. Normally make sure it's always plugged in,
but no, it is still not. So what are we going to do? I'd have to get something in just a second.
So yeah, I think that I can finish in just a few minutes and then we'll, we'll start the Q and A.
Um, and then I will go get, uh, we'll take like a, I don't know, a couple of minute break or
whatever, and I'll grab it a lightning cord. Um, uh, oh wow. What was I talking about? I had it
until, until I was, um, until I was ready to talk. Someone remind me in the chat what I was
talking about, what point I was trying to make. Well, I was talking about decisions, but what
aspect was I talking about, about the decision? Um, let's see, maybe my notes will remind me.
That's what the notes are for. Oh, thank you. I appreciate that. Um, well, I was talking about,
she's very sweet. Um, yeah. So you're listening 20 years. Yes. Uh,
I know it's the same about the 20 years. Oh yeah. Oh, okay. So talking about, and the fact that
being in the Lord, and now that we have everything now we're like, okay, Lord, what do you and I want
to do together? And then the Lord will present particular ideas and you present particular ideas,
et cetera, et cetera. And then you will know from that place, whether or not now is the time and
what are some things that you could do to begin to move forward. Now, here's what I, here's, um, so
letting up all of it, setting all of that up. You might then still wonder, okay, I think he's
telling me to move forward. I'm not sure, but I think he has. So what do I, um, what do I do?
Um, how, how do I, is it okay to move forward? Is it not? Okay. This is what I do. I,
I get an idea of what it is that I think he's saying, because I'm learning a being, right?
He's talking to me and I'm learning, I'm learning his language. I'm learning how he talks to me.
Um, I I'm hearing the voice of my father. I'm hearing the voice of my shepherd. I'm hearing
the voice of my beloved and I'm learning what he sounds like. I'm learning what phrases he
I'm learning what he means when he says certain things, right? So I'm like, okay, I think this
is what you're saying. So I'm going to step out and do this because I think this is where you are.
So that is how I recommend making decisions, make decisions. Now, again, that you're in a place of
rest and not fear. Now that you're in a place of rest, make decisions according to where you think
you see the father, where you think you're seeing.
His character, where do you think that his character might be manifesting or what you
think looks like him out there?
And I don't mean that, Oh, well, he's, he's talking to you over here and he's moving in
this direction.
I just mean, you think, you know what, Lord, I think that I could see your character from
what I know about you.
Not, not what I read in scripture, but, but you, you as a being, which obviously your
scripture is going to mirror, but you as a being that I'm in relationship with, I think
that you would be in these kinds of areas here.
I think you would do this kind of thing.
I think that not that you would do this kind of thing, like what would Jesus do, but who
are you, where do I sense out in, out in creation, it looking or expressing you, or when you
and I move into it together, I could see it expressing you, not, I could see it happening,
you know, possibly, but no, where do you actually, who it is that, that you actually think he
is and where do you, does your spirit sense that you and the Lord operating together could
manifest his, his character, because you were sensing that as opposed to you, as opposed
to you deciding where, well, how did I word that?
There is an element in which you can, as we learn to mature, as we mature and we learn
to manifest where you can choose where and how you and the Lord manifest your character,
but in the beginning, so if y'all are already at that point, some of you are at that point,
go for it.
You know, you, you know what to do there.
You know, you begin to operate according to where it is, begin to operate according to
your will of like, you know what, Lord, I believe that you're giving me the sanction
that you have matured me to a particular point.
This is what I'm feeling.
My spirit that you were asking me, what do I want to do?
And you're wanting me to step out in it and, and you'll, and you'll come with me and together
we'll do what it is that would the idea that I came up with.
But if your faith isn't there yet, the way that I, the way that I have done this, and
I still do this in particular areas where I'm not to, to the point where I feel mature
enough in my faith to be able to, to be able to make that choice and feel that God will
come through, not that he could, not that maybe, and not that I really, really hope
he will, but I believe he will come through with me on it.
If my faith just isn't there, then what I, then what I do is then I think, okay, God,
I am sensing that I think that your character is manifesting over here.
And so therefore I'm going to choose this because I'm, and I'm choosing it, not because
it's something that I want to do to be able to get something for myself.
I'm choosing it because God, I think that's what, where you are.
I think that that's what you look, actually look like, what I, the way that my, the way
that I've understood you thus far and how I've developed my relationship with you and
who I understand you are as being, I think that is actually how you look and how you
are and how you're manifesting.
And I believe that's something that you're wanting me to do.
Then what I recommend is start moving in that direction.
Tell him that, and you don't have to do it verbally, but, but have that posture and spirit
towards the Lord.
Lord, I believe that's where you are.
Now, me personally, I would actually tell the Lord that when I was here, when, when
I was first starting to do this, and actually I still do this sometimes if I need to, and
I need to actually express it, I will either say it in my mind or to the Lord, or I will
say it with my mouth, Lord, I am making this choice because I think that's who you are.
And that's where you are.
That is why I'm making that choice.
I'm not making it because I want it.
You might want it, but you're saying, Lord, I'm putting everything on the fact, all of
my risk, I'm putting, I am risking everything Lord, because I could lose a lot and could
bear consequences at possibly being wrong, but that's actually not an expression of your
character.
But I think that it is, and that's why I'm choosing it.
I'm choosing it because I'm looking for you and I think that's it.
And God will honor that and he will love that.
And then he will reveal to you whether or not that is actually a reflection of his character,
but he is going to love and honor.
He will honor the fact that what it was that your reason for making the choice was not
because you were trying to provide for protectors.
or please him, even please him, but that you were choosing it because you thought that was his
character and you were pursuing your father, you were pursuing a being that you're married to,
that you're unified with, and you were choosing to move in the direction wherever it is that you
see that he is. And so as far as like actually moving in that direction, what I do is I make
particular steps towards it. I will begin to think, what did I do? Okay, for instance,
when I was wondering if I should start posting certain things on Facebook, and this was like,
this is like two years ago, I think it was two years ago, two years, a year and a half,
two years ago, something like that. I would say, okay, well, God, I'm not sure if you want me to
post on Facebook or not post on Facebook. I think you want me to, I really didn't want to,
by the way, I really, really didn't, but I think that you want me to, so I'm going to do it.
What do you think about that? So, I mean, like I would actually make the decision,
not kind of like, okay, I will do it, but I didn't actually decide. I'm just telling him
to kind of, no, no, no. I had to actually decide, put myself out there, risking being slapped on
the hand because I was afraid of the Lord. I was like, what if he doesn't like it? You know,
is he going to punish me? Right? Hopefully y'all are way beyond that point, but that's the point
where I was, I was at the point where I was like, I don't know, I didn't believe, I'm struggling to
believe he was a good God. So I was learning and I was stepping out in it, but there was so much
accusation that I had against him anyway. So I was like, okay, God, I actually think that that,
that that's what you're telling me to do. And that's what I'm going to do. I'm making that
decision. And then I would sense, okay, does he like that? What does he think about that?
And, and then if I still didn't know, and if it was still kind of felt neutral, I'd be like,
okay, then, you know, and maybe I'd be gone. And maybe I would be like, uh, at bit in bed when I'm
telling the Lord this, you know, the night, um, at night about to go to sleep. So I would just
had, okay, tomorrow, then that is what I'm going to do. So we're not talking about like, okay,
it's in the morning and okay, I'm delaying it. I'll do that tomorrow. No, no, no. I'm I,
a lot of times would be making my decisions like either the morning of, and then decide that, okay,
that's what I'm going to do today. Or be at night, you know, as I was going to bed and I'm
like, okay, what am I going to do tomorrow? And that's where I'd be making my decision.
So whatever it is, you decide is what I'm going to do. And then actually do it. Whether it's
waking up the next morning, because you did it the night, but it made the decision night before.
And that's when you do it, or you made the decision that morning and that's what you do,
whatever it is, make the decision and do it right then not. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. I'll do that tomorrow.
And yeah, if your entire day is booked, well, you know, but don't, don't make a decision
and delay, make a decision and move because remember faith without works instead.
And you're telling the Lord, Lord, I'm having faith. I think that's where you are. And so
that's where I'm putting my faith. If you really have faith, there will be works. So you decide
that's, that's some of that is works. If it is true intention, not just deciding,
if it is deciding you are risking and you have actually emotionally put yourself out there
inside, you emotionally put yourself out there. That's, that's an action. And then you see
testable spirit. What does the Lord say about that? What's the thing about that? You're doing
things together. You're not looking at him like a master. Okay. Are you okay with me? You know?
Okay. Are you still okay with me? You know, are you still okay with me? No, no, no. You were doing,
you were doing it with him. You're like, okay, God, we're doing this together. How, how are we,
are we liking this? This is good. This is not good. You know, do you, you know, you're with me.
Are you enjoying this? That kind of a thing. Then I do the next thing. And I think, and then I ask
the Lord, okay. Like for instance, I would, I would I would go to my computer and I would sit
down and I would start writing a post or I would think about, well, what video do I want to do?
You know, I would decide, do I want to do a written post or do I want a video? And I would
make a decision and I wouldn't belabor it. I would just make a decision. It's very important.
Do not overthink this. And because overthinking got us into unrest and we're trying to unlearn
all of those things, make a decision and move. It's kind of all be okay. We're used to being
punished for moving. Moving is spirit, moving is life. There's no punishment for moving.
So in the spirit, in the world's, in the world's eyes where everything had to be controlled,
everything had to be stifled and therefore it brought death. Yes. It was, movement was punished.
So movement is not punished in the spirit. So to move. So then I would, you know, make decisions,
written or video and say, for instance, I decided to do written. So I'd start writing it.
I start writing like, okay, Lord. And again, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not checking with God periodically
and then going back and like, okay, now, okay, God, I'm coming to you again. What do you think?
That separation, remember in most.
important thing to the Lord is union.
Do everything with him.
You're always with him.
You move into him and then you move into the world.
You don't, you're not in the world.
And then you invite him to come along.
Absolutely not. No, no, no.
You leave your world,
enter him, and then the two of you move into
the world while you're in him, move into the world.
So you move in him,
move towards the thing, and you start writing.
And, or that's what I would do.
You know, I would start writing the post.
And because I'm in him and I'm doing it
from the place that I'm in him,
as opposed to continually checking with him.
Okay, what do you think about this?
Am I okay?
You know, are you liking this so far?
Separation.
So I'm in him.
So I'm feeling him as I'm doing it.
And what it is I'm writing needs to be coming up
out of who it is that I am.
It needs to be coming up out of my spirit.
So whatever stuff that you're taking,
who do you think that you are?
Not who do you think that you are?
Who are you feeling?
What are you feeling?
And how does that feeling need to come out?
Even if you don't have words for what the feeling is,
that's okay.
Have that feel, whatever that feeling is,
how does that feeling feel like it needs to be expressed?
Oh, I feel like I need to write.
I feel like I need to go run.
I feel that I need to, and we're not talking about fear,
like, oh, I'm trying to avoid something.
No, we're not talking about those kinds of feelings.
Feeling of something that need that is in you
related to the business or ministry,
whatever it is you're doing,
that needs to come up and out and live that out loud.
Give it some kind of an expression.
It doesn't have to be perfect.
And it doesn't have to be a permanent thing
that you do in your business or ministry from then on.
Just right now,
it's just that you're trying to figure yourself out too.
You're trying to figure out who are you?
What are these arms and legs that God gave you?
And how on earth do you use them?
So, because you already have everything,
we're just learning how to use what it is
that we already have.
So it's the same thing here.
So live and operate more out of your spirit.
I think we're gonna be talking about that
a bit more tomorrow when we're talking about
how to interact with clients and themselves,
clients and customers.
But anyway, so whatever it is you're doing,
whatever it is that you're doing in that next step,
and it could be as something as simple
as writing a Facebook post,
let it come out of your spirit.
Don't try to accomplish something and think,
what result do I want out of this post?
And write to that.
That's what the world taught us.
And that's what I used to teach.
So you can do all those things.
They're not bad.
God created those things to work.
But this is a conference about rest.
So I'm teaching something.
I'm teaching a different way that you can approach it.
You can choose whether or not you want to do it that way.
And you can choose to what degree
that you have the faith to do it that way right now.
And then tomorrow or next month or next year,
you'll have a faith to operate in it to a greater degree.
No condemnation for only doing it
to the level in which you have faith
and not doing it beyond that.
So it's perfectly fine.
Or you could choose to use a strategy or formula
and say, hey, my God is a good God.
Lord, you gave me this tool.
Thank you so much for this gift.
And this is what I want to do.
So please don't say,
please don't take what I am saying about rest
and then draw conclusions of,
oh, well, that means everything else is bad.
No, it doesn't.
But everything that we do,
God wants us to understand more and more
that we have an opportunity to operate out of freedom
in him so that he is the source
through which we are using the tools.
He is the source through which we are operating
out of rest, whatever.
But I just wanted to point that out.
So anyway, just whatever it is you're doing,
just take the next step and then sense,
okay, how's this feeling in the spirit?
And then, Lord, what are you thinking about this?
And he might be completely neutral
and he's not telling you what to do.
If he's not telling you what to do,
sometimes what he's doing is he's asking you,
what do you want to do?
And do it.
So, because you're asking him, your heart,
remember, continually shift into rest,
not operating out of fear.
If you find yourself being afraid again
or stressed or anxious, shift again.
Constant, you might be in the middle of writing a post
and all of a sudden you start getting frustrated.
Why can't I think of the next thing to say?
Or I have writer's block.
Shift into rest.
There's anxiety, there's stress.
That's an accusation against the Lord somewhere
that the stress and the anxiety
is the manifestation of.
Shift, just shift.
It's all okay, it's all right, just let it go.
Like, oh, my word, I'm stressed again, okay.
God says I don't have to be.
God says that whatever it is I'm worried about
actually isn't true.
So you just let it go.
And anyway, so you do that and then,
and you keep doing that.
Then what, so you could research something.
You might buy something.
You might buy a course.
I do whatever.
So say you actually go all the way through the thing
and you continue to make steps and they're not
and sometimes the steps are going
to be beyond the point where they're hidden.
Like in other words, like if I'm just
writing a post at my kitchen table,
nobody knows that than me.
But what if there are consequences to the fact
that I was spending my time writing that post instead
of doing something else and it becomes
evident to in either my life by some consequence
that I bear because I didn't do the other thing
or the like, I don't know, I don't know what that would be.
But I don't know.
Go run an errand or it could be something
like it could be something that you feel
could hurt your reputation if someone else knew
that you were doing that you were doing this instead
of doing something else or I don't know whatever.
Or you buy something and you feel
that that's the next step the Lord wants you to take
and you spend money on it.
So you could bear consequences.
So it's a risk, right?
You could bear consequences if God's like, yeah,
but you thought that that was my character
and you chose that because you thought
that that's what I was there.
But I'm now showing you now that you bought the thing
and you've spent $2,000 or however much it was
because that's how much I used to spend on some of my courses.
I would spend like, oops, I would
spend on like 1,000.
Yeah, I spent 1,000, I spent 2,000, 5,000, and 6,000.
I think those are the different amounts
that I've spent on courses.
And I spent all of that within a year.
So actually, maybe more than that.
I spent about $15,000 on courses,
I think, in a year, I thought.
Anyway, point is, and that I did not have income.
So I was running on my savings.
But, well, I had a little bit in,
but that was like this little side thing
that the Lord, that felt like a very much like a side trail
that the Lord was taking me on.
But the Lord ended up, here just a second.
The Lord ended up, oh, there we go.
The Lord ended up using that, again,
things that we think don't have anything
to do with what it is we're going to be doing.
He ends up using that in our life to nurture seed
or and to prepare ground or whatever.
Anyway, point is, that I wanted to get to about making
the decisions is, say that you actually do something
and now you're risking the fact that you
will bear the consequence of if what it is that you thought
was reflective of God's character,
actually he taught you once you did it that it wasn't.
You will bear an aspect of the consequence
because you'll learn it.
However, God loving the fact that the reason you chose it
was because you thought that was his character,
he provides you a safe environment
in which to bear that consequence,
just like we do for children.
We don't allow them to bear the entire weight
of what that consequence would be if they
did that out in the real world.
God does the same thing with us.
He's like, no, no, no, you need to learn that actually
will harm you if you do that and because you've done that.
That kind of thing, if you incorporate that
into your business, it'll harm you.
And do you see how that harms?
You're like, oh, my word, Lord, there's
all these consequences now, there's whatever.
And God's like, I know.
But I'm still, I'm providing for you.
I'm protecting you.
It's OK.
The whole point of doing this thing
isn't to make a successful business.
The whole point of this thing is for you to know me.
That's why we're doing this business in this ministry.
It's for you and I to express who it is that we are together,
the Lord says to us.
And anyway, and so you're being fathered,
I'm fathering you into how to do that.
That's what it is that we're doing.
So it's OK.
So understand that even if you step into something
and make a decision and you, quote unquote,
bear a consequence, it's like a child bearing a consequence.
It's not the same as bearing that consequence out
in the big bad world.
God provides a protective covering for you
to learn because you chose it because you thought that
was him, not choosing it because you were
trying to do the right thing.
Remember the tree of the knowledge of good and evil,
trying to do the right thing.
No, no, no.
You're in him and you're looking for his character.
You're not trying to please him.
You're trying.
to act like him and act like his character and he honors that and so he's going to provide you he's
like oh you thought that was me so you thought that that's that were you watching me you thought
that that's what i was doing oh that's that's sweet and i love you and i love you trying he's
like now let me show you how i really am doing it how it's actually really working so in other
words it's all okay we're always trying to not bear the consequence of god's wrath by making
a wrong decision as if making a quote-unquote wrong decision is sin no sin is unbelief that's
what sin is so so it's all okay so i wanted to point out where we make a decision and it didn't
work out god's like okay i will now use that to fertilize to fertilize what um your uh what
actually will bring fruit so this can't bring um uh is not meant to bring an actual fruit because
there's death in it that's actually not my character but because it's dead just like the
indians would put a fish into next to a kernel of corn um in the ground to fertilize it because
they whenever they would catch a dead fish they can't eat a dead fish because it's already dead
so it's but you know it would make them sick but they can use the dead fish to fertilize their
other food right god does the same thing with our with us it's that's why god can work everything
out for good to those who love the lord you chose it thinking it was him so he's like i will use it
and it will fertilize you don't think the mistake is wasted don't think that it's bad you chose it
because you're choosing me and i'm just and we're on a journey of me showing you who i am so that's
what we're doing uh so uh and and then sometimes our decisions will work will work out and we'll
discover oh my word that was god and all sudden it's like everything explodes and everything
blossoms and it's like our path just clears or something amazing happens and all these
clouds are attracted to us or whatever and uh so there's wonderful things but i wanted to mention
the one we're all scared of so we can understand that there's no reason to fear no we shouldn't
be afraid um last uh now i did want to talk about one thing really quick okay so i i have time to
talk about this um and then we're going to have a a quick q a session um just wanted to talk about
um uh intention i talked about this during the conference uh and i wanted to mention something
about intention especially related to in making decisions where we're trying to figure out where
god is and how to continue to um continue to move forward so think of intention or like in other
words we decide to do something or we think okay this is how god works and this is his character
and this is how we manifest when we what ends up happening is when we're young we try to in the
lord we try to do something what we is what it's like that what we've done is we've sent out our
intention um you know what it is that we want to do what is that we're trying to do or whatever
and we end up spreading it out like this in all this area we cover a really wide area and we just
like put something out there like i don't know i think this is right i'm gonna try and then we do
it well it and we kind of like stumble into it and then oh my word it works like oh my goodness
god showed up he manifested his character this is amazing i figured it out we get all excited
then and maybe maybe that'll work the first few times and this is why people come back to me in
the rest intensive you know in the in the coaching program that's why people continue to come back to
me they're just like okay actually it worked the first three times but now i'm in this other
situation this one's different this one must be different because it's not working now like no
what god is doing is what we did is we had we had kind of spread ourselves just kind of like
throwing something out there like i i think this is intention and and it covers this wide
this wide area and it's not precise and so we keep doing that and god's like okay no no no
it we'll do it like the fourth time or whatever and i'm just throwing out a number we'll do it
the fourth time it doesn't work i'm worried it worked the first three times it doesn't work now
well all that's going on is god's just like i'm trying to back up so you can see it cause just
like okay you i i actually want you to learn to hone your intention to hone in your understanding
of what it is that i look like to hone in your understanding of what your spirit is and how it
me and how you can how you can express
It's very precisely on the earth. This isn't precise. This is general. This is machine gunfire spray fire.
That's just like, no, no, no. Let's it. And so we're like, okay, well, I'm just gonna, you know, we try to adjust and like, well, I don't know, maybe.
What if I tried this. And so we reduce it by say like a quarter.
So instead of spray is spraying all of this, we just, we just do this and it works.
Figured it out. So it's not over here. It's over here. And we get very excited. And so we'll do it for another few times.
And it works and works. And then all of a sudden it didn't work anymore.
So I was like, yeah, it's in this area. I'm just wanting you to home.
I'm just wanting you to home. Just wanting you to home. So you can find it.
You can find that place of your intention. You can find more, more, a greater understanding and greater depth of who God's character is or who it is that you are or whatever.
And that is some of what God is doing there. He's just trying to narrow everything.
So I wanted to point that out. So in case you get discouraged, that's something that you thought that you understood about the Lord or that you thought you understood about what he wanted you to do in business and how all of a sudden it's not working.
Try to home. Try to home in. What, what, what, what was in the thing that was working?
There's something in there. It's not all of this.
There's something in there. And so just start narrowing it, start honing in on things, start honing in on in order to find what that thing actually is.
That is where spirit is, where movement is, where the Lord is, where his character is manifesting, what it is that his character actually looks like.
So I wanted, I wanted to mention that because people can get very discouraged. We can all get very discouraged if we're not careful that like, well, Lord, I had it all figured out.
And now it's not working. And I'm doing the same thing I've always done. So you're not holding a beer into the bar.
I'm doing my end. I'm being very, very obedient. I'm doing the exact same thing I've done all of this time.
Hone it, hone it, hone it. You know, I want you to be more precise. You know how, because you can only be, you can only exert your will when you know what your will is and how to actually send it somewhere.
You got to learn it, got to learn who I am, you got to learn who you are, you got to learn how to hone it in.
I wanted to mention those two things. So we are going to break for just like two minutes while I go get a new power cord.
And, well, I say that, but no, it might be pretty fast.
So yeah, I don't know, maybe we can do it pretty fast here. I'll see if I can, if I can trade it out really quick and then we will do a quick Q&A.
So let me turn off my video real quick, see if I can get this, my phone to finally start charging and I'll be right back.
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from me so that I'm not holding on so tightly to like my church, my friends, my life here,
.
my house, my anything. And he's just left this big space for me to explore the possibility of
.
what's in the future. And I just don't know what to do with all this because it's, I just,
.
there's so much fear and trepidation even though it's going away, like I think it's,
I'm praying about it a lot. I'm still terrified and I know you've been through this before
and I feel like in a way it's a death of a lot of things right now. I feel like my soul
is going through a death of wanting my way, wanting to look a certain way, but at the same
time the fear is still there. So I'm not totally free of it yet, but I was just kind of curious
on your take on all that because it's really been on my heart a lot lately.
You're muted. You're muted, Ashley. I'd love to hear what you're saying, but you're muted.
Thanks. I did that because I'm getting, there's some, it's not feedback, but there's something
that I'm hearing. And so I thought, well, maybe it was feedback. So I muted myself while you're
talking. So I was going to say that I'd love to, I'd love to answer you, but I'm afraid it's just
the same answer. It's the fact that we actually, it's that, it's that scary. It's that terrifying.
It's worse than scary. It really is terrifying. We think we're going to die. You remember that
story that I tell where I literally, not figuratively, literally thought my body was
going to die because it hurt that bad. And I caught myself in the middle of thinking it.
I didn't like think it later because I was just being dramatic. No, I caught myself. I'm like,
well, that was why on earth would I actually think that my body's physically going to die because I'm
making a spiritual decision. But I did, I'd like already started to plan it out and think,
I'm like, you know, you know, well, maybe if I steer the car this way,
well then fewer people are going to get hurt. I mean, just weird, weird stuff.
And we, we just finally have to do it. I'm afraid that the only thing that makes it
easier is when is if we don't choose to just to, if we don't just choose the Lord
then and choose to let go of our, of, of, of our ownership of whatever it is that we're holding
onto provision protection you know, whatever. If, if we don't and we don't do it and we,
and we choose to not do it long enough, then what can happen is if we end up actually ever
making the choice it's because the pain became too great. So we created, so by not making the
choice, the pain was when it was easier, it actually became harder and harder and harder
and harder to make the choice until finally the reason why it was easy to make the choice
is because there was no other choice. The pain hurt so bad. That's why I always recommend to
people make the choice is early earlier instead of later, because it doesn't do anything, but either
deny ourselves the thing, like completely, like we're going to stay later and it'll get easier
until, until we die or, and then we'll never get to actually step into it.
And then we also don't get to receive the benefits of having done it earlier.
Or what will happen is things will actually just get more and more painful. Either way,
we experience more pain. It just depends on whether or not we eventually do end up choosing
because it hurts so bad, or if we just continue to endure the pain, but it will never get easier.
It never will get easier to make the decision. I'm afraid this is as easy as it gets.
It's this hard. It will, it will get, it'll get worse. The only thing that will make it easier
is it looks as bad as it is. It looks better compared to the hell that you feel that you're in.
That's, I mean, I'm sorry to be that you're going to be that one. I'm telling you,
I'm telling you from personal experience, it will get so bad, so bad that as hard as this is,
will look good in comparison. It's already getting bad. It's, it's already,
I don't look like it is, but it's, it's.
insides feel like they're dying, like they're in fight or flight constantly. I'm so tired, I'm just
worn out from it, like there's so much going on inside me that I can hardly actually function,
like I can hardly go to work. It's pretty bad right now and I'm still holding on so tightly.
One of the things that you can do, I know you're not going to like the answer,
but I'm giving you an answer of like something you can actually do to move forward, is to let
go of not ever leaving teaching. And I know that this is what we're talking about. When I talk
about releasing things, these are what I'm talking about. It's like release whatever it is we don't
want to let go of. That thing is what we have to let go of. And there's probably multiple things
that we're hanging on to. And this will be one of them, like I don't want to, I don't want to leave,
I don't want to stay. We have to let go of both. And we have to, okay, I never leave, or I have to,
and then we have to let go of, okay, if God tells me, or if I might, you know, when I made the
decision to leave, and then yeah, I'm out that money, I don't have the opportunity to gain all
the benefits of the lifelong, you know, pension and all of that. It's both of those things
that we let go of, meaning that we let go of our ownership, and we allow God to,
we allow our lives to look like whatever God's character looks like, and we don't get to dictate
what love and goodness looks like. The love and goodness look like all kinds of things. Love and
goodness look like Jesus dying on the cross. So when you were talking, what I was remembering was,
I was remembering the Garden of Gethsemane, when Jesus struggled so bad, and his physically,
he was struggling so bad that he sweat blood. His body was under so much stress that those
capillaries in this, next to the sweat glands broke, and he sweated blood. And he told the
disciples who he had asked to pray with, for, with him, for him, he said, my spirit is willing,
but my flesh is weak. He didn't say the word my, so so many people think that he was talking to
the disciples about the fact that disciples kept going to sleep and weren't praying, but,
but, but I believe that he was, he was, Jesus was talking about himself. He was saying, my spirit
is willing to do what God wants me to do, but my flesh is weak, and his body was physically reacting.
It was, it was under so much stress. There was an aspect of dying. In fact, fascinatingly, if you,
if you research, if you research, if people that have gone into medically,
how, what must have been happening in Jesus's body, because of stuff that talks about in scripture,
like the, the sweat glands, and sweating blood, and various other things that it said
that Jesus went through, what they say, what medical professionals say,
is that Jesus started dying in the garden. His body physically started dying in the garden,
which I find very fascinating, because it is a physical picture of what was going on in,
in between his spirit and his soul, between the spirit and his flesh, death. So Jesus really does
know and understand that it's not just because he experienced it, and it wasn't just, and he wanted
people to stand with him. He had to do it alone. Remember, he had to go off on his own, and, and do
it alone, between him and God. I mean, no one can do it with us, not even our husbands, nobody,
you know, not our spouses, nobody. You have to do it alone, but Jesus wanted people to stand with him,
and, and they weren't even doing that. So, I mean, this was hard. Jesus really does understand,
because he actually physically walked it out, not just, well, I created everybody like that,
and I just understand, and, you know, he actually physically walked this out and made that choice,
and then he asked the Lord, Lord, if it be your will, may this cut past from me, but if I, rather,
your will, instead of my will be done. God's love and goodness, because he said, your love and
goodness, I choose your character over the manifestation, and I don't get to choose what
that manifestation looks like. That's what he was saying when he said, made this cut past for me, but
not, but not my will, but yours be done. He said, your, your, the manifestation, God,
of your character gets to, gets to be whatever you choose it to be, and God's looked like Jesus's
physical death, and not only that, but the torture that he went through, and the fact that he was
betrayed by all those people, and all of his, all of his disciples left him, and he had to then,
his own mother had to watch him die on a cross, and he had to watch her watching him,
and he had to give up his mother to, you know,
John, all kinds of things. And, you know, he cries out to his father, you know, on the cross. It's
just terrible, terrible, terrible. And then, and then the two thieves were teasing him. They're
dying too. And they're, they're teasing. It was just bad all around. Since he was naked, it was
just awful. It's terrible. So anyway, he really does, he really does know. And he walked it out
for us as an example, not just as a, hey, I understand. There's that, and we can get comfort
in that. But it's more than that. God's like, no, no, no, I overcame. And you can claim his
overcoming. Jesus already overcame, and he already did the harder thing. So you still have to walk
the path. But he's the one who walked through the jungle with a butter knife. So now it's easier for
you. But because he overcame, so you can claim his victory, because we're one with Christ. So
we're one body. But you still have to walk it. But he really did live it. He didn't just,
doesn't just know it because he created us like that. He actually lived it first. So.
Yeah, so basically, I have to let go of quitting teaching and let go of not quitting teaching at
the same time. Those are the both things that you're afraid of. Yeah. And so that is a funny
little sound. It's almost like a baby cry. Yeah. But so if I'm letting go of both of them,
then it just comes down to me, I feel like, what do I do? Like in that space? Right? Yeah.
Because we have made our lives about these things. Who am I? What do I do? What? Okay,
so if I don't do that, and if I'm not leaving, but I'm not going, what am I doing? We're always
looking for something to grab ahold of. And God's like me, you grab ahold of me and you let go of
everything. You let go of everything to do everything that it and everything that you're
trying to discover about yourself of who it is that you are trying to self-analyze, trying to
figure out, well, how do I feel what's going on today? Whatever it is that we're getting,
you know, how am I processing this? Am I processing it? Okay. Am I processing it in a mature way? Am
I showing that I really am learning from the Lord? Am I maturing in this? Am I, you know, whatever
God's like, let go of all of it. All of it. Let grab ahold of where there's nothing left,
but me, he says, and you and me, and then we'll just let that be it. And then from that, you can,
there'll be a new launching pad because you will be operating now in spirit and in life. And,
and you'd be going, because remember I said, instead of being in the world and inviting God
into it, you insert, you enter God, you leave your world and enter God. That's what we're doing
where we're releasing is and releasing, we're shifting into rest. We let go of our world
and enter God in me. And now we're in God. Now the two of us enter the world.
And by that, I'm talking about your circumstances, your situations, whatever you leave them,
leave them, like completely leave them. Meaning, meaning like, you know, emotionally let go of,
you know, ownership and all of that. Enter him. So you've abandoned that. So you abandon
everything and enter him, you know, again, talking spiritually, like letting everything
go. I don't mean like physically abandoning, let go of, of the fact that it has to be different
than what it is. So I recommend that, that, that rest shifting tool of no judgment,
it should be different than what it is. That's what me personally, if I was in your situation
and different one might work for you, what would work for me, I believe in your situation because
having been in some, some similar situations is the fact that it's my accusation that it shouldn't
be the way that it is. And it should be different. And then you know, I should, I should, if I'm here,
either I shouldn't be in this job, or if I'm here, I should be happy about it.
Or I should like it, or I should enjoy it or so whatever, but Lord, I don't. And you know,
therefore this isn't fair or whatever. We have all these shoulds and shouldn'ts going on.
We let go of all of them, just let go of all of them. And and this isn't a process that we just
can, that we have to necessarily sit there and mentally go through. It's not a mental checklist
that we can actually just decide, okay, I'm going to not take this mental checklist and go before
the Lord. And then I'm going to, and I'm going to sit there and I'm going to mentally tell the Lord,
I'm going to let go of each one. You can do that as like an exercise if you'd like,
but it's not going to and it might like break off.
a little more, it might help you like shift and trust a little more, but it won't, that's not
actually the same thing as actually truly letting go and, and, and releasing ownership. But I've
noticed that for me, um, when I, when I let things go, I usually let go of just of kind of like all
of it at the same time. It's like this entire accusation thing that I have against the Lord.
And I just, I just let the whole thing go, let it all go. And whenever I notice that I've grabbed
ahold of one of them again, I let it go. But otherwise I just, I wish that I could explain
that a bit, a bit better than, than I just did. Um, anyway, that, so, uh, you can, you can, uh,
that may not be helpful. So let that one go if you need to, but, um, um, well,
as you're thinking about what you're going to say, something that's coming up for me is
I hear, I hear all of that. I feel like I'm in a space of letting go, but I feel in the letting
go and paralyzed. Like, I don't know what to do. Like I literally I'm, I'm so stuck because I,
I've let go in a lot of ways of things, but I, I don't know what direction to take it,
like physically take a step in. Like it's, it's a weird, I can't really explain it. It's just,
I don't know where to go. Yeah. Don't that's what I'm saying is in order to know what to do,
you shift into rest first, you let go of everything. You don't do anything instead.
So we're keep wanting to replace it. We keep wanting to replace the doing with another doing
you stop doing anything. And I mean, like spiritually, emotionally, I'm not talking
physically. You stop doing, you allow everything to just be instead of thinking it should be
different. So what should I do different? I shouldn't be like this. I shouldn't do this.
I should do something. There's no, no more doing don't replace it with another doing.
Don't do anything. Stop doing whatever it is you are doing, you know, spiritually, emotionally
don't do it anymore. Meaning like, let it go. But then, okay. So then I can not do anything,
but then I'm lying here, not doing anything. I'm just breathing and then I'm good,
but I don't know what to, I can get up and go get food. I can, I can do certain things, but
going to work is really hard. And I've even found concentrating on the businesses has been a bit
hard because I'm really stuck in the middle. And I just like, I like, I feel literally feel
paralyzed. Like, I just don't know. I mean, if I'm in rest and I'm lying there and I'm fully in rest,
or at least as much as I can possibly be at this point, then, then I'm just good,
but I'm lying down. But then as soon as I get up, I'm, I don't know where to go. Like it's,
I don't know if this makes any sense. It's a really weird feeling. I don't think I've
experienced it before. So, yeah. So, okay. So now, now I'm understanding
what you were replacing with. So the, there's things outside of us that we have used as
motivation to move in life, to get up in the morning, to do anything other than eat. Like,
why, why am I living? Why am I moving? What, where am I moving towards? And there can be,
and it could be things like going to school. It may not like you, you work in school,
you know, going to work you know, working on, on your business. We're helping your husband,
helping they, you know, whatever it's, there's all of these motivations outside of you.
And, and so what you do instead is you replace them with, you choose God,
you abandon, you know, again, that whole releasing ownership, you release ownership of everything,
that everything should work out a certain way, that your husband should be a certain way,
that your daughter should be a certain way, that your interaction with your daughter should be a
certain way that you go on, you're staying at your company, at your, at your aging job,
you know, it should be this way that your business does or doesn't work out,
that you have an answer for what it is you should do, that you should,
you know, whatever you come to God without, without requiring an answer.
You give up your right to an answer. You give up your right to be it, the situation being different,
and you give up your right to God telling you what to do, like telling you the next thing to do.
So now your motivation of living is Him, is developing a relationship with Him,
not learning about Him and going to more Bible studies, doing life with Him, doing the dishes.
with God in your spirit, preparing a meal with God,
enjoying just being, enjoying the flowing,
enjoying him, enjoying you,
choosing that whatever it is you're doing,
God's enjoying you.
And I would intentionally think that is what I used to do.
You know, and I still do that sometimes.
God is, God's enjoying me.
I am choosing, God is looking down on me right now
and he loves me doing this.
He just loves watching me
because he was saying all those things.
So I actually had to choose it.
And then, and I actually, and I,
and when I say I choose it,
meaning like I created that as my reality.
And I, the reason I had a right to do that
is because he said it first,
because I'm not making something about a nothing,
but I'm taking him to this word and I'm choosing it.
So that's what I did with everything.
I did the same thing with my work
because I did not like my work either when I was doing it.
And so it was a really weird love-hate relationship.
I was wanting my business to work,
but I was, I didn't want,
I wanted to lie on my bed and do nothing
or watch movies or whatever,
because like I've said many times,
even the word business would make me feel nauseated.
I wanted nothing to do with work.
And yet, and yet I felt God was telling,
wasn't releasing me from it.
So I chose, okay, well then I'm not getting motivation
from doing business because I'm feeling
that whatever it is I'm working towards
still isn't coming.
And I don't want to do business anyway.
So I don't like that.
So I just don't like where I am
and I don't like where I'm going.
So I just had, I thought, okay,
but I'm going to continue to get up and do it
because I feel that God's, that that's where God has me.
So how am I going to do this?
I thought I'm going to choose that my purpose in life
and what it is that I'm doing
when I'm working on my business,
which I have no idea what I'm doing and how it's going
and what's supposed to be going on
or where on earth it's going
because nothing seems to be going anywhere.
I'm choosing that I'm developing that what it is
that I'm doing is I am trying to find my God.
I am trying to discover what he looks like
and what he tastes like, what he feels like
and what he's created and how things work
and understand that that came up in the mind of God first
when I'm like looking at Facebook
and I'm discovering all these cool things that it can do
and all of these things I could take advantage of.
And I'm just, I'm like half interested
because the Lord created a really neat world
and then I'm half being frustrated by the fact
that I really don't want to be here
and I really don't care,
but I haven't tried to figure out how to make myself care.
I had to choose him.
I had to stop choosing a reason to live outside of myself
and a reason for motivation.
And that's what you replace it with.
So as far as the doing, what are you doing that you're like,
well, I were like, what do I replace the doing with?
What else do I do?
You choose God.
You choose to develop a relationship with him.
Choose to just be where,
to live being where he is in a world in which he is being
and the two of you are being together.
And what does God say about himself?
God says that he loves me.
Okay, well then am I being, I'm being loved.
I'm seeing, I'm choosing that I'm seeing his goodness.
I'm seeing what his goodness fully looks like.
And God's going to reveal to me eventually
that all these things I'm looking at
are actually his goodness, but I don't see it right now.
But I'm choosing that it's all good,
even though I don't see how it could possibly be good.
I'm choosing, God says that he manifests goodness
in my life.
So I'm choosing things apparently are good,
even though I don't understand that, you know,
or whatever else it is that God says about himself.
He's righteous and holy and he's consistent.
And he doesn't, he does never break his word.
And I don't know, whatever.
But you just be in him and you don't,
you're not trying to arrive anywhere.
So it's that drastic, it's that radical.
It's that recklessly abandoning.
It's a reckless abandoning of everything,
of a framework and a structure in which we've created,
that we've created our,
we've created to not only support our life,
meaning like internally our life,
not just like our physical life, our life,
you know, our sense of identity and being,
and what it is I know about myself
and how I know myself and whatever.
It's not only a structure that we've used
to support our life,
it's actually a structure in which we want to,
that we expect to define our life and identify our life.
And it's giving up all of that.
It's like, well, then if I don't have that, what do I do?
Who am I?
What's the point?
Where's my motivation?
God, answer to all those questions.
All of them is always God.
And it all sounds esoterical when we're talking about it.
But when you abandon yourself completely by faith, free falling into him,
you finally discover when you're in him, oh my word, it's actually true.
But on the outside, we don't see how it could possibly be true.
We only discover it's true because the things of the spirit can only be understood by the spirit.
So it can only be understood once it's actually experienced in him.
It can't be understood on this side.
It's going to sound great and it sounds wonderful.
But there's a reason why we still don't take a leap.
We don't see how it actually could be possible enough that we actually trusted enough to abandon everything and free fall into it.
But when you free fall into it and you land there, it proves itself.
So it really is scary and terrifying.
It felt like when I became a Christian.
Just like you hear about it, but until you're on the other side and you become a Christian and given your life to the Lord, you can't possibly understand it.
And I was terrified to do that too.
It was like free falling, letting go of control.
But yeah, I think I'll ponder, kind of ponder everything you've said.
I'll probably have more questions, but I will ponder it.
I'm afraid it's the same answer.
It's just the choosing.
It's the doing of the thing.
It's the actual doing of the thing.
It's just, there's no way.
Yeah, I think I still struggle to understand how to do it.
It's like I want a manual, like a visual aid and manual to follow.
I'm still trying to figure out how you do it.
There's safety and security in understanding.
Like we have to give up understanding.
And I don't say any of this lightly, trust me.
I'm very, I take everything you say extremely seriously.
It's, that's the answer because I really want to help you.
That is it.
It's the fondly letting go of, instead of like I should understand, it should, I should understand.
Giving up our ownership of that, giving up our right to that, that we will choose without understanding.
We, and we just, we just, we just do it.
We, where you present yourself to the Lord and you, and, and you let, and you let go.
It's really, yeah, anyway.
Yeah, I get to keep figuring the, well, not figuring it out,
but I get to keep letting this one sit with me and go deeper and deeper because it's, yeah, it's a tough one for me.
Yeah. Yeah.
Ask the Lord to reveal it.
And then I recommend talking to your body and your soul and your spirit before you go to bed every night.
And then they can shift without all of this going through your mental brain.
Tell them to shift.
Tell them whatever it is you want to tell them.
Whatever it is you're struggling with that you're just like, you know, I don't know, help you let go.
Help you not be afraid.
Help, you know, to, to under, that your soul understand that your soul choose to let go.
And that your soul choose to let go and that you choose, that you choose the Lord.
Because it knows actually how, because the spirit can reveal to it how to do it.
That's my point that I'm trying to make.
So letting it hear the spirit, because there's so much antagonism between the soul and spirit,
letting the soul allow the spirit to talk to it and the spirit and then trusting the spirit and, you know,
your spirit and following its, following its guidance.
And that's how I, that's how I would do it.
You don't, and also you don't always have to know the question that you're wanting to ask your soul or your spirit.
You just, that's another thing.
They already know the question that you want to ask.
You just talk as well as you're able to.
It's not magic.
There's no magic.
There's no magic in the words that you're going to use or not use.
That's not the point thing is it knows the struggle.
And so you're trying to find that, that intention and send it towards, Hey, look, fix this.
You know, work on this, you know, be safe with your spirit.
I don't know why.
I don't know what it is that you, that you are, are continuing to resist against the spirit, but let it go.
You know, feel safe with it.
in the spirit, you know, show it that it can be safe with you, you know, that kind of thing.
You don't even have to know the, know the question.
So.
All right, well thank you.
You're welcome.
Does anyone else have a question?
So I know it's, I know it's almost 10 here, almost 11 for those on the East Coast, but
I am here if someone did have a question that that just needed to be answered tonight,
but we will have, so I can take one more question and then we'll have Q&A tomorrow.
Did anyone have anything before we go?
Excuse me, my word.
While someone's thinking, let me check the chat.
I have to come halfway through because of my little, yes, we will be recording tomorrow
and then.
Perfect.
Okay.
No more questions then.
Everybody good for tonight?
You're welcome, Michelle.
Okay, I will see all of y'all then.
I'll see all of y'all tomorrow.
So the recording will come out and be available.
I will email everybody it and it will be on available by noon tomorrow.
So I don't know if I'm going to have it earlier or not.
If I do, that's wonderful.
But otherwise, just plan on it being available by noon tomorrow.
So I will see all of y'all tomorrow then.
Y'all have a good night.
You too, bye.
Night.
Good night.
Bye.