I don't know about y'all, but when they started, I didn't like it when they started doing the
whole, like announcing that it was being recorded.
Sounds creepy.
Sounds like I'm being watched or something like, maybe they get a bit like a different
way to, a different voice or a different tone or something.
Okay.
So let's talk about the two trees really quick.
And I just wanted to talk about this to remind us, because really, I think that all of us
have already, I think that all of us have already heard a lot about the difference between
operating from the tree of life versus the tree of knowledge have been evil, even from
me and, or from someone else, and then also about the three realms.
But I'm wanting to remind us so that it's fresh in our mind, and then we're just all
on the same page for being able to continue the conversation.
So I want to remind us that sin is actually just unbelief.
It's not, it's not believing in God because God is actually word.
So being invisible, he wanted to give us himself, but if we're invisible, then how would an
invisible God give us himself?
How would he give us a portion of him word?
So that's how God feels loved.
He's giving us of himself, which is word.
That's what he's giving.
And he wants us to receive him.
So if we're receiving God, what do we need to do to receive what, what do we receive
in order to receive him word?
That's why it's very important for us to believe him.
That's how God feels loved is if we believe, in other words, receive himself, which is
believing his word, having faith.
Remember that if we actually do believe it, we'll act on it.
If we say that we believe it because we think that we should, or that, and then we know
it.
And then we think, Oh my goodness, I'm transformed just because I know something new.
If our lives aren't manifesting a difference, it means that we don't actually believe it
because we're not putting it in action.
Cause if we put it in action, you know, it wouldn't, we'd be able to see a difference
in our lives.
So anyway, that is how we actually love the Lord is we believe him.
And that's what sin is.
Sin is not believing God.
And that was the temptation that both Adam, Adam, well, Adam, obviously, but I'm specifically
referring to the fact that Satan was talking to Eve.
So that is the temptation that Adam and Eve, let's just talk about Adam, I guess is the
first Adam to compare it to also the fact that this was what Jesus was presented with
is the second Adam in, um, uh, in the wilderness where he was also tended by Satan to not believe
God, to not believe his word.
That's what sin is.
Sin is not believing God that whatever God says actually isn't true.
It's what Satan mentioned to Eve when he said, did God really say he wasn't questioning
whether or not God talked, he was questioning, is that what God meant?
He was getting her to question, you know, the, the word that it is that she'd received.
And, um, and because if they, if we believe his word, then we'll act on it.
Just like Eve was called by God to act on not eating from the tree of the knowledge
of good and evil.
And just like Jesus was, was called to act on the fact that, okay, if he believed that
what God said really was true, then how was he going to act in the wilderness?
Satan was saying, oh, well then if you believe God fascinatingly, he, he knew that this is
that, um, Jesus knew about the whole, the importance of acting on faith in order for
it to be real faith.
And he said, well, if you're the son of God do this.
And she said, no, that is not what having faith in the Lord is.
And that's not what it is that God was saying.
God was saying to act, but my acting is in trusting him and resting in him.
It's not in providing for myself.
And he had to make, and he had to, uh, he had to clarify that difference course, Satan
already knew that, but he's having to make that very clear distinction.
Um, and, uh, and saying why he wasn't going to follow through with what Satan was telling
him to do.
He, Satan was at, was wanting him to doubt what it is that God had said.
So that's what sin is.
And that's what it is that we're called, that we're constantly confronted with is do we
want to eat from the tree of life or the tree of knowledge of good and evil eating from
the tree of life.
In other words, operating from the tree of life is operating and rest.
It's operating, believing that God is our protection provision, source of identity and
source of, uh, being completely loved, liked, and expect to be comforted.
He providing it for us as resting in him and being provided for as, as a son who was loved.
as opposed to operating according to the tree of the knowledge of good and evil of in,
okay, God has left me abandoned and alone. I'm not being completely provided for sure.
He provides for me some, or he provides for me through by having given me a business.
And therefore I have to work hard to make sure that I allow the business to provide for me.
Again, it's this idea, this mental idea that we're separated, that we're isolated,
that it requires our exertion, our work, our effort in order to keep something going,
that God has left us abandoned to be a good steward. Being a good steward,
the way that the Lord means it, does not mean that he's abandoned us to make sure that,
and then once, and is holding us accountable for doing a good job while he's gone.
It's doing it with us, but he's, and so being a good steward is not him leaving it up to us to
figure it out and make sure that we pass the test of what it is that he's taught us so far.
And hey, let's just see how you do. And let's make sure that you learned your lesson,
that it's not what the being of a good steward, being of a good steward is,
is operating out of the relationship to which are operating out of the point to which our
relationship is developed with the Lord and doing it together with him. Anyway, so in the
operating out of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, it is choosing that, okay, well,
God has left me alone and I have to fend for myself or, you know, I get in because with him,
there's this aspect in which I feel that everything's outside of my control.
What if he's not going to, what if, you know, my, my business is out of my control? What if,
you know, whatever, what, so we think, okay, what is it that I can do? What is it that I need to
grab a hold of in order to, in order to control the outcome? We're trying to control the result.
We're trying to create our own result because we don't feel safe leaving it in God's hands.
We don't believe that he'll actually create a result that will, that will give us protection,
provision, identity, love, like, or comfort. And therefore we're going to try to control the
situation in order to determine that we get the protection, provision, love, like, comfort,
and identity. And anyway, that is the choice that we're continually presented with just like Adam
and Eve and just like Jesus. And we need to know that. Well, yeah. So let, okay, let me go ahead
and mention this, mention this now is that there are, hopefully y'all can see this. There are lots
of trees in the garden. Remember that, that Eve told Satan when Satan was tempting her, he said,
God said, you can eat of any tree in the garden. She did not mention the tree of life.
She said, you can eat from any tree in the garden, except this other one. There's lots of trees.
There was only one tree that was a no. And so often we view life is like this, this,
this thing that is full of obstacles. And, and it's very hard to follow the right way and the
own and, and the godly way and whatever, because there's that sin has all these obstacles that
we're always trying to avoid. And that there's more of it than there is of the good. And God
said the opposite. There are lots of trees in the garden. There was only one. And that one was
exertion. The one tree we couldn't eat from was exertion and strife. The tree of the knowledge,
relying on our knowledge of whether something's right or wrong in order to protect or provide
for us to make sure that we follow the laws that will get us what we want. Because if we leave it
up to God, we may not get what we want. We may not provide for ourselves or we may not get protected
or whatever. So it's important for us to remember there's lots of trees. Now, though, I want to
mention this just because it's probably something that a lot of people think about is, well, yeah,
but isn't, doesn't God say that narrow is the way and very broad is broad is the path to destruction.
Very narrow is the way to the kingdom. Again, we hear everything so often in terms of where's the
lack. I'm in lack. God says, no, in me, there's no lack. There's only abundance. So I wanted to
explain that as the narrow way mean like we can only get into the kingdom through Jesus Christ
in his blood, always operating through his blood, not a one and done thing, not a, okay, well, yeah,
Jesus died for me and I received him, you know, when I was four or let me, you know, when I,
when I was four and it's a one and done thing, yes, we are saved and that that's one and done
and all of that. But the thing.
The thing is, whenever we continue to operate,
when we continue to make businesses decisions,
when we continue to be presented with,
I don't know, temptations by Satan to our own mind,
to not believe God, we always have to go,
we always have to operate in the blood,
not abandoned and alone, not separated,
not trying to figure out how do I make myself pleasing?
How do I make the right decision?
Just go through Jesus every single time.
Okay, I'm in his blood,
it's not just because he did something once
and therefore he made me a particular way,
because that is true,
but it's the fact that I'm still abiding in that place.
It's operating from that place that I am in his blood,
I'm in rest, I'm in God, I'm one with him,
I'm one seed with him, all that,
operating from that place, that's the mirror place.
Everything else is exertion and effort
and whatever, trying to jump the fence,
trying to get in there.
God says that that is as a thief coming into the kingdom,
trying to come in any other way
other than through the blood.
So I just wanted to mention the thing about,
yes, there's lots of trees in the garden,
but people always compare it to the verse,
yeah, but what about the fact that,
doesn't God say, broad is the way to destruction,
look how big that fence line is.
Broad is the way to destruction, narrow is the way,
but there's more trees,
we can eat from any tree in the garden,
there's only one that we can't,
which is knowledge of good and evil,
in other words, our own exertion or an effort,
trying to do it on our own.
And the difference between the tree of life
and the tree of knowledge of good and evil is,
if things like an operating tree of life
where we are trusting, okay, God,
I'm submitting my will to you,
you are my protection, my provision,
you create all the results of my business,
you bring the clients,
you help me make business decisions,
you determine the results, that's all you Lord,
but I'm active in the business,
I participate in the business,
I contribute, I came up with ideas,
I came up with decisions, whatever,
but the two of us decide together
what it is that we're going to do
when I say decisions, like ideas for making decisions,
if the two of us decide all of that together,
that's operating, but you Lord,
but I'm free now the burden and the weight
of having to create a result for my decisions,
that my decisions bear the weight of,
oh my word, this better work,
I was like, no, let me take care of that,
we're constantly faced between believing
that he is who he says that he is,
and he says that he's going to provide for us,
we're faced with that, or thinking,
you know what, he's holding me accountable
to make something work,
he gave me a business, he gave me a dream,
a vision, a ministry, something that it is
that I want to do, and I've got to make sure
to quote unquote, and we use all these good,
good little terminology, these godly phrases
and terminology to make ourselves think
that we're doing this right thing,
I want to be a good steward with what he's given me,
so that when he comes back, I've passed the test,
because like, no, the problem there
is the difference between operating
according to the tree of life
and the tree of the knowledge of good and evil,
and the fact that there's union and separation,
we have to do everything in union with him,
in relationship with him,
because he takes separation from him very seriously,
that's the whole difference between the tree of life
versus the tree of the knowledge of good and evil,
everything comes down to more than life and death,
and I mean, because that is very important,
you know, obviously, everything comes down
to life and death, but it's more than just
belief or faith in sin, you know,
belief and unbelief, or, you know, righteousness and sin,
it's more than that, if you hear this,
you will find it all throughout scripture now,
everything comes back to union versus separation,
the only times that Jesus got mad,
mad at the, you know, and he used the whip
and drove people and animals and out at the,
or drove animals out of the temple
and turned over the money changer's tables
and all of that, even when he got upset at Peter,
and he said, get me behind me, Satan, remember,
because Jesus spoke King James, I'm just kidding,
you know, that, you know, get me behind me, Satan,
whenever Jesus was getting upset at anybody,
it was because that other person was trying,
was saying something that would create separation
between God and his people, God takes it so seriously
that that's when Jesus would get mad,
that's when Jesus would get very upset and very stern,
is when there was an indication
that people were trying to create or imply
a separation between the two, God takes union with him,
which is why we talked about one spirit with God,
takes union with him, so important.
was our origination point, was union with him. We can't get more basic, more important and more
vital to the Lord and what's important to him than union. And of course, in union you have life,
in union you have love, in union you have spirit, in union you have the relationship.
So all of those other things are important as well, but think of it in a new way in terms of
union as opposed to righteousness, which triggers our brain as, okay, I'm constantly in life and in
business trying to avoid sin and do the right thing. No, but it's like union instead of separation.
Very, very important, which also is intimacy versus distance, etc. And this over here,
the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, we have to work in order to earn a wage,
but everything according to the tree of life means that, like we were talking about when we
talked about receiving God's love, has to be given as a free gift. Everything in the kingdom
has to be given as, is only freely given and freely received. You can't work for anything
in the kingdom. You can work and get things from the Lord, but that's operating according to the
evil and it's outside. It's outside. Now, it doesn't mean that you're not a Christian,
if you're doing that. I'm just trying to give us a kind of like an example. And the tree of
the knowledge of good and evil was in the garden as well. But my point is, it's not, you get the,
you get, and maybe outside wasn't the right way to picture it because it's probably triggering
all kinds of things. So, so forget picturing it like that. The point is that in that you can't
work for something and receive a gift. If you work for anything, you're going to get a wage.
So it's like, okay, you worked for something and you followed my laws. So I'm going to give you
the results and the natural consequence or the natural benefits of having followed these laws.
You can do it if you want. And it's a good gift from God, by the way, because Romans 7 says that
the law, in other words, the tree of the knowledge of good and evil is a good tree.
We always thought it was bad. It's a good tree, but God says, no, you need to use it, not use it
as your, use it from a place of union where you don't need it. And now that you don't need it,
now you can use it because it can't damage you. But if you leave the tree of the knowledge of
good and evil, and you think you need the tree, sorry, you leave the tree of life in,
and I mean, you think you need the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.
He said, that's, that's the issue. He said, you've changed your source.
But God doesn't create bad things. I was always very confused reading that story, you know,
in, in Genesis, like, well, why would God create a bad tree? God is a good God. He says,
he's a good God. He says, he's a loving God. Why would he create a bad tree?
God doesn't create bad things, but he doesn't want us to rely on it as our source. When we
don't rely on it as our source, we can now use it. And we know that from all kinds of different
places in scripture, including Romans seven, where it says that the law is holy. It literally
says that word. It says the law is holy. It says that, and not in Romans seven, but elsewhere,
it says that Christ came not to abolish the law, but to fulfill it. Why? Because the law wasn't bad.
The law was a gift. God was like, okay, if my child, like the prodigal son, my child's demanding
their inheritance, they're leaving. So it, and so I'm going to give them their inheritance so that
they can take care of themselves. But what's the problem with the inheritance? It's going to run
out. If they take it off, which is what the prodigal son did, it's going to run out. The
older son, however, stayed at the estate and he just had it eternally. The problem was with the
older son is even though he had it eternally, he didn't take advantage of it. He didn't believe
it really was his. He just thought he was working for, to maintain his father's stuff. And his
father had to, you know, very kindly rebuke him for that and say, no, no, I want to encourage you
that it's what I have has always been yours. So it's the same thing with the tree of the
knowledge of good and evil. God's like, you know, okay, if you said, just like the Israelites,
he offered, he offered relationship with them, come up, come up the mountain, you know, and I
will make covenant with you. And they heard the lightning and the thunder and the voice of God.
And they're like, we want nothing to do with this. Moses, well, you, you find out from God,
what we're supposed to do and we'll do it. It sounds good. Right? Same reason why Eve might
have chosen the tree of knowledge of good and evil.
people, because it's only good.
It's only people who want to know who want to do good that want to know the
difference between the knowledge of between good and evil, so that they can
know the good things and do the good things and know the evil things, know
how to avoid the evil things, evil people that want to do evil things.
They don't care whether it's good or evil.
They're just doing it for themselves, right?
They don't need to know.
They're just using whatever they need to, in order to get to, to provide for
themselves, but somebody who wants to do good, wants to know the difference.
So they know which one to pick and which one to avoid problem issues, doing it on
our, on our own, instead of relying on God, because it's safer.
And we, we are, you know, presented with the same thing and God's like, okay.
And just like the Israelites are saying, Hey, look, tell us what to do.
Give us works, tell us what to do.
Give us laws, rules.
So we can, we can use the laws and rules in order to get, in order to follow a
formula, follow a business strategy, you know, follow whatever has been proven to
work, follow some kind of an economic law in order to ensure myself, I'm
going to get a particular result.
If I follow these financial laws, if I follow, follow these economic
laws, if I follow these business laws or society laws or government
laws or whatever, I can predict my security.
I can predict my future.
And and anyway, so that's what it is that we do.
And the Israelites did the same thing.
Tell us what to do and we will do it.
They chose not to have operate out of relationship with God, where he was
going to provide for and protect them.
They said, let us do it ourselves.
They even rejected God as their King and said, no, we want our own King.
God said, fine, I'll give you Saul.
Um, but my point in saying both of those examples of, um, about Saul, but
particularly about, um, about where they rejected him on the mountain is it
doesn't mention that they are in, in, um, Exodus, it mentions it later in, in
Deuteronomy where Moses is talking to those, those Israelites children, because
those Israelites had died, you know, after 40 years in the wilderness.
And so now he's talking to, to their children and he's relating the story.
And then we hear something about the story that we didn't hear in Exodus
that wasn't recorded in Exodus.
And Moses says, when the Israelites said that when your father said that
God told me what they have said is good, they rejected his covenant of
sonship and God called it good because they chose, they chose to operate
according to the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.
And the one that they chose was good.
It was a good thing, but it wasn't relationship.
Everything goes back to relationship.
Everything goes back to union, not good and evil.
Um, that's why it's the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, not the
true mouth, the knowledge of evil, the knowledge of good and evil.
It doesn't, our lives are not about doing good versus evil.
And God wants us to do all the good things and not avoid all the evil things.
God says, no union with me and relationship because I am good.
If you have relationship with me, you will look like your father and
you will always do good, but you will do good because you're, you're
operating out of my character.
My character is the standard for what's good, not objective laws that
we've labeled as good or evil.
And that God is even labeled as good or evil.
It's really, really big concept here.
So God is a loving God said, okay, the Israelites or if the prodigal son
wants to take care of and provide for themselves, I will enable them to.
He enabled, we talked about that.
You don't just like, oh, we don't need to enable other people.
God enabled us.
It's like, okay, if you want to do it on your own, I'm a loving father.
I don't want to leave you out there to, to die.
So I'm going to give you a means by which you can provide for yourself.
You want to, you want your inheritance now?
Well, I know if you go off, you're not going to have any money.
So I'm going to give you money.
Uh, I can't believe you asked for it early before I died.
I'm going to give you money.
You can't believe you want to leave me and be separated from me instead of like
biting with me and living with me and enjoying everything relationship and
everything it is that I have.
You want to leave me, but if you are, I know what can happen out there.
So I'm going to give you a means to provide for yourself.
That's what all those laws are, that we have the advantage of it, that we have
the opportunity to take advantage of using as business strategies and economic
laws and all those other things and formulas.
We have the opportunity to use those, but if we're using those thinking that
that's getting us our result, because we're afraid we, it's not safe enough
with God, that's the problem, but it doesn't make the business strategy or
the formula or using them or the fact that the exist that Satan didn't create
them, God did.
Um, so anyway, God said, you know, they have asked for a good thing.
So I want us to know that so that we can now use business strategies and
formulas, knowing that in receiving them as good guests from our loving father,
but, but not relying on them as our source.
That's the problem.
That's.
That's why Jesus came to fulfill the law,
or sorry, came not to abolish the law,
just like it mentions in Romans 7, that the law is holy.
The law created death within us.
It said, well, is the law bad?
And is the law death?
And Paul says, no, it's not.
But the existence of it created death within us.
What Jesus did is he didn't abolish the law and ruin it,
because he was like, no, it's a good gift
that we want to keep and we want to keep using.
He said, oh, you know, Jesus even used the laws,
but he always did it because he didn't have to rely on them
anymore as his source.
So now that you don't rely on them anymore as your source,
now you can use it because you don't need it.
Same thing like when you don't need a relationship,
you can finally enjoy it.
When you don't need your business, you can finally enjoy it.
If you don't rely on it, you can finally enjoy it.
So anyway, that Jesus came to fulfill the law
because he said, I want you to use it.
I don't want it to bring,
I don't want it to create death in you
that creates separation between you and me.
Union with me is too important, but operate out of that,
he says, and now that you've operated out of that,
the law can be used.
And I came to fulfill it.
I didn't get rid of it,
because it's not a bad thing to keep using,
but use it from the tree of life,
because now you can enjoy it,
because God's providing for you,
and you no longer need this to provide for you.
So now that you no longer need it, what do you wanna do?
What sounds fun?
Which law is especially fun to use,
and that you especially want to be part of your business?
What marketing strategy, what business strategy,
whatever do you wanna use, because you don't have to.
So what sounds fun, and that's where a lot of the,
where knowledge of things and learning things
from other people who've been in business
is so helpful and so valuable,
is because God has created a plethora
and in a variety of ways in which business
can be successful, and he and you decide together
which ones you want to be part of your business
or your ministry, and then how you operate in life.
Let's see.
Okay, then wanted to mention also that,
talking again about operating according
to the tree of life, where God does everything
and he creates the result.
I wanted to mention three examples
out of multiple in scripture, in which God makes covenant,
in other words, creates the result, gets us something,
while the beneficiary, which is us, was asleep,
put completely to rest.
So Abraham was made covenant, that God made covenant
while he put Abraham to sleep.
Remember when Abraham built that altar,
and then he divided the turtle,
I think it was the doves in half,
and he laid all of this out on the altar
and that fire passed through and all that.
He put Abraham into a deep sleep,
and I always thought that was the strangest thing.
In fact, I was a little condemning of Abraham.
I was like, hey, look, dude,
this is a very important moment.
Why are you going to sleep?
I mean, seriously, am I the only one who thought that?
I'm like, I do not get it.
How could this giant of the faith have gone to sleep
when the God of the universe is right in front of him,
doing all kinds of things and making covenant?
You know, that, hey, I will make of you of many nations
and all of that.
Because it was a symbol that God's like, I do everything.
You just get to benefit.
It's talked about in Hebrews.
Oh, I wish I could remember.
I think it's Hebrews 6, where it talks about the fact
that God made covenant with himself,
implying through all of that,
that when it says that Abraham will receive the benefit,
Abraham is the third party beneficiary.
In other words, he's not part,
he's not one of the parties that is held responsible
to make the thing happen.
God made covenant with himself,
because it said that he had no other way by which to make,
no higher way other than himself by which to make an oath.
So he made it with himself.
Abraham just got to benefit.
So God does everything,
and it's not reliant on our behavior.
It's not anything that we do or don't do.
We just get to benefit from it.
But in order to benefit from it,
we receive what it is he's done.
So Abraham was put to sleep when God made covenant.
Also, Adam, and I am saying these out of order,
Adam was put to sleep when God created his bride.
Excuse me.
Adam didn't go out and seek her, didn't work for her,
didn't go try to find her.
God put him to sleep, put him to rest,
and then created his bride.
And then he woke, he received the benefit.
And then there's covenant in marriage, right?
God did all of that.
He did all of the work.
Adam just got to benefit.
But God is the one who gave him and his bride.
paid for his work. Then there's also Jesus and the fact that Jesus was put to sleep,
death. Jesus was put to sleep for death, symbolizing rest, when God gave him his bride.
So those are just three examples, oops, three examples out of many, in which God, which,
you know, indicates to us and through which God pictures the fact that when God does anything,
he is doing it and he holds himself responsible. We're just the third party beneficiary of it.
So when we do anything in business and we're relying on something in business or, okay,
Lord, you know, I need money. And I mean, it could be through the business or it could not be for it.
We're relying on God for something, protection, provision, whatever, regardless of if it's
something outside of business or if it's in business itself. You know, glory, you know,
there's this, that, and the other coming up where I've got this business venture and Lord,
is it going to succeed? Or Lord, you know, I'm coming up the deadline. It looks like it's not
going to succeed. And it's, God wants us to remember and choose that he said he's going
to create the result. And the result of the business venture is not based on your behavior,
like as in doing right or wrong or good or bad or whether or whatever. Yes, there are actions
that we take and there's ways in which he fathers us and matures us as a son to learn things and to
act on what it is that we learn. We learn that these are wise things to do. And God is indicating
to us that we need to actually be active and do something. So we do it. We start making phone
calls, we start researching, we start whatever, but we don't get the stress and the anxiety of,
oh my goodness, if I don't, if I don't make that, we attach to the phone calls that we attach to
that we attach to the research that we attach to trying to find a solution because, oh my goodness,
if I don't, if I, if that, that tomorrow and the deadline and the result of it is all weighing on
whether or not I can magically find the answer. And what we can then also do is because we think
that because it's coming from this perspective that I'm abandoned and alone and I'm having to
do it all on my own. We think God is going to get, uh, uh, we use it as accusation against God of
like, God, why aren't you helping me? God, why aren't you blessing the venture? God, you know,
I'm only human. All these things that we say, God, you know, I'm only human and you can do anything.
Why aren't you doing it? You're the one who gave me this business venture. That sound very familiar.
The woman that you gave me go, you gave me this business venture and, but you are hindering me
from actually being able to be successful in it and keep me in right standing with you.
We use all of these things as constant accusation against God, not because we're not choosing to
believe that if he says that he's going to create the result that he really is holding himself
responsible for the results. He just allows us to, uh, and advises and is maturing us in how to
research and how to, um, uh, how to find particular solutions, come up with ideas, seek him. Cause
remember it's the honor of Kings to seek something out. But if you, if the weight and the burden of
having or not of getting or not getting a result based on your performance, if you were relieved
from that, then it's fun to do all the activity. The reason we don't like the activity we as people,
we love work. God created us for work, not strife, but work. So if we're now relieved
at the burden that we've always associated with work that, Oh my goodness, if I don't do this,
then that, that, that, and that the, that the result is that I'm carrying the burden of the
result based on my actions. If we're relieved at that, the actions are fun. I mean, you think of
all kinds of things that you do as hobbies that other people would call work. Why is that fun for
you? Why do you not associate work with it? Because you enjoy it because you're relieved of, uh,
because the results of it, you don't feel a burden of actually that, that, that the result is saying
or not saying something about you. So it leaves you free to enjoy it. And you end up people who,
who work, do things out of hobby entity end up usually being a lot better at whatever it is
that they're doing than people who, who feel like they're being forced to work at it in order to
create a particular result because the people who use it as a hobby or just are more at rest in it.
Anyway, that's what it is that God's inviting us to do in the difference between, um, uh, the tree
of life versus the tree of knowledge of evil, uh, the tree of knowledge of good and evil. Um, uh, and then
I'll leave you with this on that. And we'll move now into the three realms that recommend that you
look at Luke 12 starting in verse 22. I don't remember how far it goes, but Luke 12 starting
in verse 22 talks about where Jesus is saying, you know, do not worry. Do not worry about what
you shall eat or drink or whatever. Those things are literal. He's not talking figuratively. He's
literally saying, do not worry about, about your food, not worry about your clothes. He said,
if God is clothing and feeding the, the sparrows and the lilies, then, you know, feeding the
sparrows, you know, clothing and lilies, and they are provided. He said, and they don't store
anything in barns or anything. They, um, and he said, if God will provide for them,
then, and you're more important to him, to him than they are, then he'll do it for you too.
We all know these verses that we have to abandon ourselves to actually rely on God to such an
extent that it makes it very real in our lives, that he really is providing our food. He really
is providing our, um, you know, the results in our business or, or whatever. Um, and, uh,
so anyway, um, okay. So in talking about the realms, we are going to go through this one
ultra quickly because I think y'all, I think everybody in here has already heard it. So,
and talking about, hopefully this is right side for y'all. Okay. Um, so in, um, in that it's not
backwards, is this, is this right for y'all? Can y'all, is it right to left? Okay, good.
All right. So we have spirit, soul, and body. We'll go through this really fast. So, um, that,
you know, that, that this is the three parts of, um, three aspects of us, but the seat of
our identity is in our spirit. Now, if we believe that the seat of our identity is,
is defined by our soul and whatever's happening up in here or in our body, whatever's happening
here, then it, then, um, that is when we're in unrest because the, in the, the reason for that
is because the seat of our identity, the seat of our identity being in our spirit, this is the
place in which we're one with God. And then down here, this is, this is what God is referring to
when he refers to our flesh, not just our body, but also our soul. All of this is flesh. Um,
all of this is creation in a way. Think of this as, as uncreated because it came out of God.
Technically you could say that, well, it was created because that was the process of creation
was taken out of God, whatever, just for intensive purposes. You just think of this,
like it's uncreated because it's of the essence of God and it came out of him and God has been
created. This right here is created in it. This is creation. It's important because it's the first
aspect of creation that God wants us to release from frustration that he talks about in Romans
eight says that we're called to, uh, that the, all of creation is groaning, um, waiting for
the manifestation of the sense of God. And it is subject to frustration. It also, and Paul goes on
to specify in there. So even our own bodies, even ourselves are an aspect of creation that is
groaning for us, um, to relieve it. Uh, but anyway, so these, so think of these as like three
different realms and ways in which we can approach life. We can approach life thinking our identity
is on our body. In other words, believing that we are dependent on the knowledge, our knowledge
of earthly laws in order to keep ourselves safe. Remember being protected, being protected or
provided for that. Okay. Well, you know, what do I know about economic laws? What do I know about,
um, scientific laws of like, I don't know how, how health works, uh, you know, uh, medication,
you know, am I using essential oils or am I using Tylenol or, um, you know, I don't know,
financial laws or, or whatever, um, in order to provide for myself, what it is that I need,
what laws are out there that I need to learn in order to create a particular result.
Because if I don't know something, then my business will fail that might, because then we're,
we're relying on our knowledge or our lack of knowledge in order to be successful in our
business. And God said, no, no, I create the results for you. So you have to, we have to
relieve that we have to relieve the fact that we're not dependent on what it is. We know we're
don't know we're not met. Um, so that we can stop chasing this idea that there's all these business
group gurus out there that know some secret that is finally going to be, um, the thing that, uh,
will give our business success. We can use those things, but remember we can only use them,
you know, use our knowledge of, of, of earthly and spiritual laws.
If we're operating out of the tree of the knowledge, a tree of life, meaning that we,
we believe that God is the source of everything. Now that we've.
believe that God can do it no matter what we do. Now, what
sounds fun? Which ones does he in maturing me as a son of God,
say, hey, look, let's let's use this law. Let's use this one,
because this would be fun. We could have used anyone, you
know, but we're going to use this one. It's why everybody's
business, by the way, looks different. And everybody uses
different strategies. And anyway, that that's a different
subject to go into. But if we believe that our identity is on
our soul, then we believe that we are protected or provided for
love, like whatever, loved, liked, whatever, based on what
it is we know or don't know about the spiritual laws,
spiritual laws, referring to things like tithing, my tithing
or not tithing. And if that is going to give me favor with God
or make me successful in my business or not make me
insistent, successful in my business, am I tithing or not?
Because if we start looking at, okay, why are things not
working in my business? Why are things not working in my
ministry? Why? Maybe why has God given me a vision, but he
hasn't allowed it to come to fruition? Why do I keep getting
obstacles stuck in my way? Am I doing or not doing something? If
we think that we are dependent on something outside of his
character, and that is causing our pain, then it means that
then we're going to start that means that we believe that our
identity is in our soul. And that are the essence of who it
is that we are is down there. And that we are dependent on
what it is that we know or don't know in order to be safe. And
God says, No, that's not true. It is not what you know, and
don't know, that helps you and you using that for your benefit.
Or you're being hurt because you don't know something that
somebody else knew. And oh, my word, if you just gone to that
event, this Congress, then you would have known this, and then
you would have been successful. If we if we think that then
we're not relying on the Lord, and we're declaring that he's
not as good as he says that he is, because he says he's so
good, that, that we are that we exist and are completely
sustained in everything that we need provision, protection, no
love, like, you know, identity and to be comforted, completely
because he is who he says that he is, not even because he does
what he says that he does. That's an extension of him
expressing who he is. So going all the way back to the root,
that he is who he says that he is. And that creates and
manifests everything in our life. And he wants us to rely
completely on that. See, was there something else I wanted to
mention about that before we move on trying to make this very
Okay, so this is something well, I mentioned that. Okay, yeah. So
how do we how do we shift between these realms? I'm not
even talking about rest yet. But how how if God says that we're
here, but we but we think that we're here, we think that we're
here. How do we get from here, you know, into one of these
other one of these other places. It's based on our unbelief. So
operating from the Spirit means that we believe that God is who
says yes. But if we drop down and like, say, for instance,
into our soul or into our body, thinking our identity is down
there, then it means that we have some kind of an accusation
against God that God says, Oh, you know what, I'm this good.
We're like, No, you're part of that. But you're not completely
that. So you're not that good. You're better than this. But
you're not as good as this. And so it's an accusation that we
bring against God of unbelief, that he's not as good as he says
yes. And if we have even further accusation against God, it's
like dropping down in and believing that our identity is
down into our is down in our body. So that is the difference
between that is how we are operating in different in
different realms is based off of how of what it is that we're
believing about how good God is, and whether or not the how much
that we're believing about what he says about himself, to what
degree is, for instance, and the reason I keep mentioning the
degree is, we all we all say that we believe that God loves
us. But if our lives are only manifesting the degree to which
we actually do believe that. So if we believe it, like 1%, well,
then 1% of that is 1% of God's love is going to manifest itself
into our life, so to speak. And the and then, because it's based
on what it is that we believe, or if we believe 30%, well, then
30%, etc. It's so we say, Well, God, you know, I believe you, I
believe you this much, but not this much. That's why I'm why I
continually refer back to the degree of it, we are believing
in to an extent in various areas about what he said, but always
know that
Part of the reason I wanted to point this out is, have you noticed that when you go through
something very painful and you find yourself in that situation again, it can get very discouraging
because you're thinking, I thought we already dealt with this Lord. And God's like, you didn't.
But now it's a deeper level of accusation you had against me. You learned that I loved you
last time that we did this. You learned that I loved you. Now though, you're needing to learn
that I love you more than you were, than you have believed are currently believing that I love you.
I need you. You have the opportunity to believe that I love you even more than that.
It's layers. So relieve yourself of shame and condemnation. If it feels like here we are again,
Lord, I thought I've learned this lesson. Remember here, that old Calvinistic mindset,
mindset I'm going, I thought I've learned this lesson. My God's like, no, you did, but this is
a deeper level. You need to know that I love you more than what you've, what you are believing that
I, that I do. So that's why I'm always talking about, not just believing that he loves us,
not just leaving his goodness, not just believing what it is he says, but to the degree that he
says that he is that, and it's always better. And it's always more good. Let's see again,
you know, knowledge of these things is a good thing. Jesus himself used all of them. He ate,
you know, just like in the body. He ate, he even ate, he even ate when his spirit had,
when his body had transformed and became a spiritual body, he ate fish in front of them
when he died and rose again. And he, he even ate then. So, you know, he lost for a good thing.
There's nothing wrong with them. And, and what God wants us to do is he wants us to govern these
things. That's what I'm talking about. When I talk about the fact that once we don't rely on
them, we can use them. We govern them because here is our seat. We are seated in Christ. We
are seated in heavenly places. He is on the throne. All power and authority has been put under
his feet. So therefore all power and authority has, or not power and authority, all power and
authority is in him and everything has been put under his feet. Therefore it's been put under our
feet. So if we're in a, in a position of power and authority of kingship, then it means that what
does a king do? A king governs. He governs his kingdom. You govern your flesh. You govern the
knowledge. You govern spiritual laws. You govern earthly laws. And he's maturing us into being able
to do that. So, so we were already there in our identity, but he's maturing us, especially, you
know, particularly in our soul and our body. I think that there might, there's a measure in
which our spirits are being matured as well, but it's just any, but just to make this concept
simple, he's maturing us in our soul and our body to the point where we can actually learn how to
act like our father and govern laws, govern earthly laws, govern spiritual laws, where they listen to
us, where we talk to our body and we tell it to heal. And it does, where we talk to a tree, just
like Jesus talked to the fig tree and he cursed it and it died. It's governing. It's governing
laws. But he's maturing us into that. So there's an aspect in which we, we, we already have
everything. Think of it like a mantle. I wonder if I have this picture. Oh, bummer. I don't think I do.
So think of it like a mantle that you're given when you're four years old, like a, like a,
like a robe for a, for a king that you've got, that you're four years old. So you're really,
really short in this and, and think that, you know, this, this train of this robe is like,
you know, like God's train that built the temple. The train of this robe is like, I don't know,
like six yards long or whatever. Cause I think that that's what queen Elizabeth's coronation
robe is, is that, that long. It's very, very heavy. It's extremely heavy. And so if you're
four years old, you can't carry all that you're given all of it. But the only amount that you
bear the weight of is the amount. I wish I could this really quick is the extent to which you are.
Hi. Okay. So here, so say you're four years old. The only amount of that, of that mantle that
you're bearing the weight of, and that you're held responsible for is the amount between your
shoulders and the ground, because that's how high you are. That's only the amount of strength that
you have to be able to bear that, but you were given all of it. You're just not mature enough
to be able to operate in all of it yet, but you already have it. And as you get taller,
you know, then your body, it means that your body is strengthening and therefore it pulls
that more of the mantle. That's, that's what that is. So you're given all of it,
but we operate in more and more of it as we mature. So I wanted to, to, to, you know,
to kind of like show how that works, because otherwise just kind of without that picture,
sometimes it's kind of like, that just sounds totally.
contradictory. That's how we're able to have everything, but we don't see it manifest,
you know, fully in our lives right now, because we haven't matured to the point that we know how
to be, how to do it, how to be responsible with it. The same thing with your, with your business,
we'll be talking more in more detail about that after lunch, but how you can, you don't have to
feel that God is calling you to, to operate in every single area, expecting you to operate in
every single area of your business in complete rest all the time, because none of us, including
me, are mature enough in our soul and our body. And I'm just going to say, you know, assume that
about everybody, uh, are mature enough in our soul and our body to be able to do that yet.
We don't know how we never have done it. Our spirit knows, but our body and our soul don't
know how to do that yet. So you're not expected to do something that, that God, because he created
there to be a process such as a maturation. In other words, you're born a baby. You're not born
an adult and a baby isn't expected and how accountable to know everything that an adult
knows and to act like an adult. He can be a baby. When you're five, you can be fine. When you're
five, you're not expected to act like you're 25. Your parents don't expect it of you. God doesn't
expect it of you. Same thing in spiritual maturity. If you were five years old in a particular area of
your spiritual walk, not your whole spiritual walk, but just a particular area that you and
God are working on, you can be fine. God does not hold you in condemnation for not being 25 yet.
If you're five, God is not enduring you in your phase because you're not somewhere else. He's
like, no, I'm the one who created the phases. I'm the one who created things to develop into mature.
And I only create good things. And I created four years old because it was a good phase.
And I created five years old because it was a good phase. So where you are is good. So you're
not in a bad place, constantly trying to get to the good one. And God's just enduring you until
you get there. You're where you're in a process that God actually created each step of. So anyway,
anyway, be relieved of shame and condemnation for that.
So is there anything else I wanted to get to before we're talking about shifting and
duress? And so we'll talk about shifting and duress just really quickly, and then we'll break
for lunch. Is there anything I just, okay, yes, I do want to, we're going to talk about this later.
But just because I have the chart, I'm going to mention that talking about, you know, governing
creation, releasing it from frustration. This is our destiny right here is releasing is well,
okay. Let me back up. Cause that didn't make sense the way I worded it. Remember that your purpose
for existence is not your business. It's not your ministry. It's not doing something for God.
I don't care if he told you, you know, Hey, I want you to write a book, you know, or I want you to
have this business, or I want you to have this ministry. That is not why you were put on this
earth. You are in existence for relationship with God because you were created so to speak
before the earth ever was God shows us in him. Ephesians one says, God chose us in him before
the creation of the world, you were created. You were taken out of him and reinserted. And
in order to have relationship with him. So your purpose for existence is relationship with God.
And God is enjoying the journey of the development of that relationship.
That is why you're here. It's not to accomplish something. And then later after that, after we
existed, then God created the earth. And then he created our souls and our bodies, you know,
it's part of creation, all of that. And so the whole point of this is to make, take what is
invisible, which is an invisible God and us looking like our father, our spirits are invisible as
well. It's taking invisible things, the kingdom of God, what it talks about in the Lord's prayer,
whatever is in heaven and making it visible on earth. So what it is that we're doing. In other
words, our destiny is to make visible the development of our relationship that is
happening in the spirit. What, what does the development of your relationship with God look
like in the spirit? And God wants you to make that visible in your soul and in your body.
And so that's why we all, that's why as we learn and grow in faith in the Lord,
our souls and our bodies change. They're being transformed, be transformed by the
renewing of your mind, work out your salvation. Remember Paul talks about that,
the working out of your salvation. That's what it's referring to. You're already saved.
This isn't like a, a becoming more and more saved. He's saying, work it out, make it visible.
the reality actually take on a visible form. It has an invisible form. So take the invisible form
and then translate it into a visible form. Make it visible. Take the development of your
relationship and actually make that visible. And when you do, that is what makes it, that's what
releases creation from frustration. Because it says that the creation is waiting for the
manifestation of the sons of God, the manifestation, bringing the invisible and
making it into a visible form, the manifestation of the sons of God. So that releases creation
from frustration when a son of God makes himself known. When your spirit presents itself to your
soul and your soul has an opportunity to respond and to believe. Because if it believes your spirit,
because your spirit is always in, it is always in, it remembers the new man and always believes
your father. Your soul is afraid of your spirit. I'm getting really ahead of myself here into
after lunch topic, but your soul is afraid of your spirit because your spirit always believes God
and your soul doesn't believe God. So your, so what we want is we want our soul to not be so
afraid of our spirit because our spirit is repeating whatever God's saying. And our soul
finds that very unsafe, finds God a very unsafe place. And so if our, the more that our soul comes
into choosing to believe that what our spirit said, who is just repeating what God said is true,
will then once our soul begins to believe that then our body who always looks to our soul for
what to do and what to believe, then it will start to change. And that's how you get physical healing.
That's how, that's how things in your business transform as well. Cause again, body is in like
the physical, uh, the physical earth and things that are happening in your business and whatever,
it will start to change as well because everything's coming into agreement and alignment
with what is already true in the spirit, that what your relationship and the development of
your relationship with God looks like in the spirit that, um, uh, and so who the son of God
is because the spirit's presenting itself to his soul and saying, Hey, receive me presenting himself
as a spirit, presenting himself as a, as a king as presenting himself as a son of God for this.
And then it says that creation is waiting for the sons to reveal themselves, including your own soul,
including your own body, because it was created to respond to when it saw a son of God. Now it can
choose how it wants to respond. And we saw what happened to the fig tree when the fig tree did not
choose to receive God. It chose not to receive Jesus because Jesus, you know, when said, Hey,
look, you haven't given me fruit. You haven't served me. Even though it's not your season,
you haven't served me as a son of God. And you cursed it because the big tree had as an aspect
of creation, just like your soul or your body has an opportunity. It has a free will, but how does
it, how does it want to respond? Um, but, um, it does, it was created to respond to a son of God,
but it has a choice as to whether or not it wants to, but that is, that is our destiny. So I wanted
to point that out really quick. Um, and, um, and okay, I'm going to throw one more thing in here,
just because if I don't, I think that you might all find it very important and very,
um, very significant. And if I don't mention it now, we're not ever going to mention it.
We're not ever going to get to it. And I just want to talk just real quickly about spiritual
warfare, just because I think you'd find it interesting. If everything is under your feet,
that means that everything, including any spiritual warfare laws are under your feet.
You govern them. You're intended to govern them. You do not need them to overcome Satan.
You do not need to know demons. You do not need to know their names. You do not need to do all
of this work to go through any kind of deliverance to deliverance stuff in order to be free. You can
because God only creates good laws and you can learn them and you can use them because God says
they're good. And he says, Hey, you can learn about all this stuff and you can use it because
it works, but he wants us to always know we're free and that we don't have to. I use these laws
but I don't always, sometimes I use these laws to fight Satan because my soul is just struggling
too much to have the faith that I need to have the faith to believe that what God said really
is true to the degree that he said that he is that in particular areas of my life. And so if
I'm struggling, I will go through, okay. So, you know, and I'll, I'll do, you know, certain things
that, you know, use certain tools that I've learned from like deliverance ministries or teachers or
whoever, and I use them and they work, but I will tell you that I did have to go through,
take myself through one of those sessions by myself with the Lord. One of those sessions
for something I was really struggling with in, um, kind of, it was forgiveness, but it was like
an addition to forgiveness. Anyway, I was trying, it was forgiveness and submission of myself in
that particular area to the Lord. It took me four hours. That's a lot of work. I was
exhausted. And God says that what I have and I have a right to to choose in him is if I believe
that he is who he says that he is, that immediately will free me from any kind of demonic oppression
or unforgiveness or whatever grudge I'm holding or whatever. I have that opportunity to choose it
when I can. So always know there's more love, there's more freedom, there's more opportunity,
but if you're not there yet in certain areas of your life, there is no condemnation to do what I
do, which is use a law if I need to, and to learn about it, to use a spiritual law.
How do I, how do I battle in spiritual warfare? Do I need to go back through my bloodline?
Do I need to do whatever? No, you do not have to. But if your faith is weak,
then in a particular area of your life, if you're just really, really struggling,
use one of God's gifts. One of his tools that he lovingly gave you as a good,
gave to you as a good father is that, Hey, here's spiritual laws. Here they were. Here's how they
work. Use it. He's a very loving father. If we cannot believe him because we're five right now,
then he's like, okay, I'll give you help. And here's your help. So no condemnation,
noticing that we always have an opportunity to learn, to mature, to greater,
and to greater faith. So last thing I want to say, and then we'll break for lunch
is how to shift into rest really quick. Cause it's actually very short and easy.
You will know that the, this actually is what rest is. I can talk about rest in three sentences.
The whole rest of these four and a half hours for today is all explaining all it is to help us
overcome all of our objections and why it can't possibly be true, but it's very, very simple to
understand. And so think of it kind of like, think of the, you know, the spirit is the invisible.
The spirit is is a, you know, is a, well, it's spirit it's, it's in God. And then this is the
flesh. This is creation. So think of it kind of like everything in creation is like in the ocean,
it's below the ocean and the spirit is air. Well, think of yourself like a balloon. That's the new
man. That is who you are. The substance of what is in the balloon is air, which is the same substance
is outside the balloon. It's air spirit, spirit. That is who you are. And it's very effortless
for a balloon to applicable in a balloon floats effortlessly on the water and doesn't have to try
hard to not sink. It's not just constantly playing. Oh my goodness. I keep trying to,
you know, I keep being threatened to sink. No, it's not. There's no, even with think about it,
even with them, if a storm came up or whatever, the, the, the substance of a balloon does not
allow it to sink. It's just, you know, it, and it, and it doesn't have to work to try to be who it
is. It just effortlessly flips on the water. So this is who you are and you never changed ever.
Even if someone were to grab ahold of a balloon and pull it down, the substance of, in the,
in the properties that, and the characteristics of what a balloon is doesn't ever change. It's
always a balloon. It doesn't matter if it's above the water or below the water, it's always a balloon
and it always has air in it. And it always acts very effortlessly like a balloon. It doesn't
change its characteristics because it drops. If someone like pulls it down into the ocean,
it always remains the same. So anyway, if we shift our identity, our sense of our identity
from our spirit down into our solar body, it's like the balloon coming down. If, if that's
impossible, just like the new man, it is impossible for a balloon to do that. Then how does the balloon
drop? It's grabbed a hold of a weight and that weight pulled it down. A certain level of weight
will take it down to the soul level. A greater heavier weight will pull it down further into
the ocean, to the body level. What are those weights that the balloon would have to grab a
hold of in order to cause it to act counter to its nature? Because it can't naturally act counter
to its nature. You cannot naturally be different than the new man. So why do you act like sometimes
like not the new man? Because it's grabbing a hold of a weight, which is simply a lie against God.
It's an accusation against God. It's God. You're not that good. You're only this good,
or you're only this good. That's what that is. So here's the key to shifting into rest.
You don't have to do anything. Like you don't have to do something new. All you have to do
is stop doing whatever you're doing. Just stop as opposed to, okay, I'm doing this. And we think,
okay, God's actually telling me I'm doing the wrong thing. I need to be doing something
different. He says, no, stop doing. That's the key to shifting into rest. Let go.
So you grabbed a hold of a weight.
So all you have to do as soon as, as soon as, um, you know, if the balloon doesn't have the weight,
what happens, it immediately just floats to the top. It doesn't have to swim to the top.
It just naturally, it is a balloon. So it's just going to just float up. It didn't have to work
for it. It naturally goes up because it's the way it always was in dropping down into the ocean
didn't change its nature. So it just keeps acting like it always does. And it didn't work to float.
So all you have to do in order to allow yourself to effortlessly act like yourself again is to let
go of the weight is to stop believing the lie. We'll talk later about how to do that, but
it's just stop. That's all you're doing. You're stopping. You're not trading, doing one thing
for another. Now you just stop. That's it. And as soon as you let go of the weight,
as soon as you let go of the accusation, you will find that you will act and be,
you will act in your business. You will see the results in your business. And you will, um,
you will just effortlessly act and be the, the way that God talks about people on the sermon on
the Mount, the way he talks about people in, um, uh, in, uh, I didn't know the commandments that
he gives us in the new Testament. You will naturally be those things. I was talking about
earlier, the fact that you don't have to try to love God. You already do, but we don't think that
we do. And therefore we keep trying. And because we don't know life any other way, other than
trying, we think if we stop trying, we won't love. We think that if we stop trying that our
natural nature isn't love, meaning that we're not believing that what God said really is true
because God said, no, your nature really is, is love. No God, I don't believe it. So I'm going
to keep trying. And I'm, and, um, uh, in God, God will tell God, okay, but God, if it's,
if it's different than what I'm doing, then while I'm trying, you can prove it to me because like,
that is not how it works. I've already done it. So stop trying. And that's how you discover it's
true. That's faith. That's why faith is risky because we have to stop doing the thing that
we think if we stop, we're going to die. We think if we stop, then we're, then God's going to have
accusation against us that we're going to lose relationship with him, that he's going to be mad
or we're going to bear some punishment consequence or whatever. Um, and, um, so that is, it was very
fast. That's how you're such an arrest. It's so easy. After lunch, we'll be talking about like
some practical things that you can do to shift interest. Like if you don't feel it, you're
anxious. What do I do? How do I get rid of this anxious feeling? How do I actually shift interest
in a moment? As opposed to me just telling you, oh, all you have to do is just stop believing
what you're believing. That's not helpful. You already knew that. And are we doing it now?
I mean that we are in certain areas, but not in the really hard areas. How do we do it in the
really hard areas? And, um, what are some practical steps? So we'll talk about that.
We will break for 30 minutes and then come back at well, 30 minutes. You all can watch your own
times because you're all in different times. I'm afraid I can't help you with that. So we'll come
back in 30 minutes. Um, and, uh, in fact, if you would like, um, I, I might pop back on here and,
um, while I'm eating lunch and then we can use it for anybody who wants to y'all might
completely want to break, but for anybody who wants to, we can, um, uh, y'all can pop on and
I can, after I get my lunch and bring it here, then I can be on here for, um, to answer any
questions that anybody might have so far, uh, because we won't have time for a Q and a later.
Um, cause I've got too much. I'm trying to like jam pack in here. Uh, but we can use that for,
for a lunch Q and a, if you'd like, for those of you don't want to, it's no big deal. Y'all can go,
um, uh, let your brain rest for a bit. So, uh, for those of you who will not be back until 30
minutes, it's been 30 minutes.
Okay.
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