WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:06.280 So this is, um, kind of like think of it as our first fireside chat, because that's what 2 00:00:06.280 --> 00:00:12.320 we do on Sunday nights from nine to 10 Eastern, which is what's not really now I suppose it 3 00:00:12.320 --> 00:00:18.560 would normally be about 40 minutes from now but I'm who normally have, you know, fireside 4 00:00:18.560 --> 00:00:28.400 chats, and where it's just live q amp a liberty run, who hasn't been able to join us but liberty 5 00:00:28.640 --> 00:00:34.320 and Renata and Rita know how this works. So it's just a time for people to be able to ask 6 00:00:34.320 --> 00:00:38.640 questions that have come up. Normally, you know, as they've been trying to apply it, 7 00:00:39.520 --> 00:00:42.800 or, you know, questions about just kind of like the teaching. So okay, like, 8 00:00:42.800 --> 00:00:47.040 what about this? And what about that? So, because we haven't really had time to apply 9 00:00:47.840 --> 00:00:54.800 in the past 24 hours. Well, I don't know what you I have, you know, that does anyone have 10 00:00:55.360 --> 00:01:02.160 any questions that they can start us out with anything. 11 00:01:10.320 --> 00:01:16.000 I have a question. You were just talking about like co creating and 12 00:01:16.240 --> 00:01:22.640 and then in an earlier video, you talked about like, 13 00:01:24.320 --> 00:01:31.760 destiny, like how, how do those kind of work? Like, how do you determine what it is God wants 14 00:01:31.760 --> 00:01:38.160 you to co create? Like, it's just knowing like, it's just it varies per, you know, person, 15 00:01:38.160 --> 00:01:44.080 like, I don't know what is it? So okay, so a couple of different things. So first of all, 16 00:01:44.080 --> 00:01:48.880 so I always teach in context. So let's go back a little bit. So remember that the purpose for 17 00:01:48.880 --> 00:01:54.160 which we exist is relationship with God. So we're created like that. So then creation came along. 18 00:01:55.200 --> 00:02:01.520 And it's to express who it is that we are in the spirit realm. Like, in other words, 19 00:02:01.520 --> 00:02:08.000 what our relationship is with God. In other words, the point to which we've developed our 20 00:02:08.000 --> 00:02:13.840 relationship with God, what would that look like if it could be expressed in the physical realm? 21 00:02:14.560 --> 00:02:19.440 So kind of like, you know, it's, it's, it's not the same thing, but kind of think of it like this, 22 00:02:19.440 --> 00:02:24.800 because it can feel a bit like a stretch. So think of it similar to peep artists saying, okay, well, 23 00:02:24.800 --> 00:02:31.360 you know, if you were a song, what song would you be? Or what would you sound like? Or, you know, 24 00:02:31.360 --> 00:02:35.680 what, if you were a color, what would you be that kind of a thing where you're trying to translate 25 00:02:35.680 --> 00:02:41.120 one idea into a totally different idea? It's that kind of a thing. It's what there are different 26 00:02:41.120 --> 00:02:44.160 realms. There are different dimensions, you know, there's the spirit dimension, 27 00:02:44.160 --> 00:02:50.080 there's physical dimension. So if you were to take something in the spirit dimension and make it 28 00:02:50.080 --> 00:02:55.120 present itself in a, in a dimension that operates according to totally different laws, 29 00:02:56.000 --> 00:03:01.840 how would it translate? And so that's what we're doing. We're taking the invisible God 30 00:03:01.840 --> 00:03:08.320 and we're making him visible. How do we know that? Because we are, because Christ is always our 31 00:03:08.320 --> 00:03:17.200 example. And it says in John one that it says the word became flesh. So we, who are also sons of 32 00:03:17.200 --> 00:03:22.000 God, who are also born of God, no, we're not the head. We're not, you know, firstborn son and all 33 00:03:22.000 --> 00:03:26.400 of that, but we're also born of God. And the fact that we, you know, it says that, you know, 34 00:03:27.120 --> 00:03:33.520 that we're sons of God and therefore born of God. Then if God, if Jesus, who's always our example 35 00:03:33.520 --> 00:03:38.160 of what it is that we're supposed to do as humans, how are we supposed to live this life? 36 00:03:38.160 --> 00:03:45.120 What on earth are we here for? If what he did is he was word that became flesh. That's what we're 37 00:03:45.120 --> 00:03:50.720 called to do. We're called to take who it is that we are in spirit, which is connected to God's 38 00:03:50.720 --> 00:03:55.520 spirit. That's who we are is that point of connection, us and God together. We're supposed 39 00:03:55.520 --> 00:04:01.360 to express who are we in God together, our identity. What does that look like into the 40 00:04:01.360 --> 00:04:10.000 physical realm? What does that look like when you put that into into a body that has to operate 41 00:04:10.000 --> 00:04:14.400 according to length and width and height and laws of science and physics and quantum mechanics and 42 00:04:14.400 --> 00:04:19.200 all of that, how would that express itself? So understand what we're expressing is we're 43 00:04:19.200 --> 00:04:26.800 expressing our relationship with God. That's why we kind of look different and act different 44 00:04:26.800 --> 00:04:31.520 throughout our whole life is because it's just different aspects. It's we're expressing 45 00:04:32.160 --> 00:04:38.960 based on our choices, our decisions, how we talk to other people, who it is that we 46 00:04:38.960 --> 00:04:44.720 we're expressing, how we've, who it is that we are in spirit, how it is that we've developed 47 00:04:44.720 --> 00:04:49.040 our relationship. We're trying to express that into the physical part of what we're expressing 48 00:04:49.040 --> 00:04:54.720 is the fact that we're struggling to express it. And then other aspects are, we really are just, 49 00:04:54.720 --> 00:04:59.760 we really are expressing this is who God and I look like, or this is how God and I are choosing. 50 00:05:00.000 --> 00:05:04.960 express what we look like. We could express ourselves to look like yellow, but you know, 51 00:05:04.960 --> 00:05:09.360 for this phase of life, we're going to express ourselves as red. Why? Because God is a God of 52 00:05:09.360 --> 00:05:15.920 variety. And even though God is always the same, he all, in other words, he's always consistent. 53 00:05:15.920 --> 00:05:19.680 He never like becomes something else. He never is good. And then becomes evil, you know, 54 00:05:19.680 --> 00:05:24.400 or anything like that. He's always the same. He never expresses himself the same way. He's 55 00:05:24.400 --> 00:05:30.640 constantly in, in an undulating expression of himself. Think of it like a river, a river is 56 00:05:30.640 --> 00:05:36.240 always the same, but it never looks the same from one minute to the next because the water is always 57 00:05:36.240 --> 00:05:41.920 is changing and how it's like moving. But we never think that all my word, the water, you know, 58 00:05:41.920 --> 00:05:46.000 the river is one thing in one minute. And then the next minute it's something else. No, it's always 59 00:05:46.000 --> 00:05:50.960 the same. So God's the same way. Therefore us being born of the Lord would do the same thing. 60 00:05:50.960 --> 00:05:55.920 We'd express ourselves, God and us together expressing who it is that we are into the earth. 61 00:05:55.920 --> 00:06:04.400 And so it's going to change. So that's kind of like the, the the foundation on which to answer 62 00:06:04.400 --> 00:06:10.320 your question. So how do we actually do that? What does that look like? Well, you think about, 63 00:06:10.320 --> 00:06:15.360 okay, well, how have God and I developed our relationship thus far? Who do I know him to be? 64 00:06:15.920 --> 00:06:20.400 How do we interact? How is he talking to me these days? What it is that, what is it that I've 65 00:06:20.400 --> 00:06:28.400 learned of him to be not? What have I read about him? How do I, how do I know him? How, 66 00:06:28.400 --> 00:06:33.360 how, when he's talked to me, have I discovered something fascinating about the tone of his voice 67 00:06:33.360 --> 00:06:38.400 or I didn't know how he likes to interact with me or how he likes to tease me or, oh my word, 68 00:06:38.400 --> 00:06:43.520 he's a bit of a jokester and he likes to have fun. And he, and this is how he kind of like plays with 69 00:06:43.520 --> 00:06:52.000 me these days, or he's expanding my, understand my ability to hear him. He now, he now communicates 70 00:06:52.000 --> 00:06:57.040 with me in a totally different way than he used to, but I can still tell that's his voice. 71 00:06:57.040 --> 00:07:00.320 You know, in other words, you know, your relationship with him is changing. You're 72 00:07:00.320 --> 00:07:04.960 also developing your, uh, the, the degree to which, you know, I'm the degree to which you 73 00:07:04.960 --> 00:07:09.440 have faith. You're, you're discovering who it is that he is, because I believe that like the 74 00:07:09.440 --> 00:07:16.560 universe, God is always expanding. I believe that that's what God is, gave us a, gave us a picture 75 00:07:16.560 --> 00:07:22.240 of with the universe that that's always expanding. I believe God was trying is, is, is using that as 76 00:07:22.240 --> 00:07:27.200 a physical picture of the fact that he's always expanding. So if he's always expanding, we're 77 00:07:27.200 --> 00:07:33.200 literally never going to get to the end of knowing him. So the whole point of why we exist is the 78 00:07:33.200 --> 00:07:39.360 development of our relationship with him. And so our point here on earth is to put that development 79 00:07:39.360 --> 00:07:45.600 of relationship, like what we look like in this moment into the earth, express it in a form. So 80 00:07:45.600 --> 00:07:50.720 it can express itself in the way of, uh, the types of friends that we have at that time of our life. 81 00:07:50.720 --> 00:07:55.520 Do we have, are we friends? Should we be friends with this person? Should we allow this person 82 00:07:55.520 --> 00:07:59.040 access to us during this season of our life? You know, should I marry this person? Should I not 83 00:07:59.040 --> 00:08:05.760 marry this person? Should I, you know, who, who are God and I right now should, you know, should we 84 00:08:05.760 --> 00:08:11.760 join a, um, I don't know the worship team at church or should, should I start a business or should I 85 00:08:11.760 --> 00:08:15.840 have a ministry? Should I be a part of somebody else's ministry or should I write a book or 86 00:08:15.840 --> 00:08:22.480 whatever? All of those things are expressing who it is that we are so that more of what exists in 87 00:08:22.480 --> 00:08:29.680 spirit comes into earth. So that earth changes. That's the whole point because when earth interacts 88 00:08:29.680 --> 00:08:35.440 with something from spirit, it's released from frustration. It comes into alignment with spirit 89 00:08:35.440 --> 00:08:41.039 and then it transforms. And so that's what we're doing. We're wanting to, uh, we're, uh, okay. So 90 00:08:41.679 --> 00:08:47.920 let me explain that. Cause I think I, I mixed two different ideas, um, because it's all happening at 91 00:08:47.920 --> 00:08:53.520 the same time. So let me delineate. Um, so what we're doing is we're expressing who it is that 92 00:08:53.520 --> 00:09:00.080 we in God are into the earth. That's that existed before Adam fell, but we have a little, we have an 93 00:09:00.080 --> 00:09:06.640 extra step, an extra thing that's going on. Let me say that an extra thing that's complicating things 94 00:09:06.640 --> 00:09:12.320 after the fall. And that's the fact that Kurt that currently creation is subject to frustration 95 00:09:12.320 --> 00:09:18.320 because of the fall. So this is why we have car wrecks. It's why we have pain. It's why we have, 96 00:09:18.320 --> 00:09:23.920 it's why, um, you know, there's storms that actually wreck havoc. I don't think that storms 97 00:09:23.920 --> 00:09:29.840 are bad. I think that this, that the effect that storms have to create destruction is bad, you know? 98 00:09:29.840 --> 00:09:34.880 And so why do we have all of these things? We have all of those things because creation, which is 99 00:09:34.960 --> 00:09:42.080 waiting for, um, the human beings to tell it what to do has been hearing from human souls for 100 00:09:42.080 --> 00:09:46.800 thousands of years. It's been hearing from billions of humans for thousands of years 101 00:09:46.800 --> 00:09:51.120 that God isn't true. God isn't to believe be believed God. Isn't who he says that he is, 102 00:09:51.120 --> 00:09:56.560 whatever. So it's expressing the fact that it's alone. It's abandoned. You know, 103 00:09:56.560 --> 00:09:59.760 it doesn't know what to do. It's in chaos, right? So what we're. 104 00:10:00.000 --> 00:10:07.080 doing is it hasn't changed our purpose. Our purpose is to express God. But when we express 105 00:10:07.080 --> 00:10:13.420 who it is that God is into creation, what it does is it calms the storm. It removes 106 00:10:13.420 --> 00:10:17.240 the chaos and brings everything into order. So that's what we're struggling with right 107 00:10:17.240 --> 00:10:23.200 now is there's this dissonance between heaven and earth. Earth doesn't, isn't naturally 108 00:10:23.200 --> 00:10:30.180 receiving us and isn't naturally reflecting, um, uh, reflecting the principles by which 109 00:10:30.180 --> 00:10:35.600 the kingdom of God works. It did before Adam fell, but after Adam fell, there's this dissonance 110 00:10:35.600 --> 00:10:40.560 now so that now when we bring it down, cause prior to Adam's fall, it was brought down, 111 00:10:40.560 --> 00:10:45.640 brought down. God walked with Adam and Eve in the garden. They nurtured and take, took 112 00:10:45.640 --> 00:10:50.160 care of the trees, the animals from what we understand, it didn't kill each other. You 113 00:10:50.160 --> 00:10:53.400 know, I mean, there wasn't any destruction, right? But then after the fall, there's all 114 00:10:53.400 --> 00:10:59.440 of this stuff. So, but here's the cool thing. We don't have an added, I know I said the 115 00:10:59.440 --> 00:11:03.880 added complexity, but I just said that to kind of like, um, I don't know, to help kind 116 00:11:03.880 --> 00:11:12.720 of like present or introduce the point, but, but really it's not an added step. Um, the 117 00:11:12.720 --> 00:11:19.420 fact that we now have creation to be overcome and here's why God already overcame. It's 118 00:11:19.420 --> 00:11:26.380 already been done. There's nothing left to do, not even overcoming creation, but creation 119 00:11:26.380 --> 00:11:34.300 is not reflecting the fact that it's been overcome because we have to, um, how do we, 120 00:11:34.300 --> 00:11:40.220 how do we have to actually in coming into agreement with the power of the gospel and 121 00:11:40.220 --> 00:11:46.220 the fact that he overcame, we have to bring it down. We have to, we're the ones who have 122 00:11:46.220 --> 00:11:50.940 to give it instruction. God did everything in the heaven and we have to open the door 123 00:11:50.940 --> 00:11:57.620 in order for it to come in. So, but we don't have to, we don't have to, there's no payment 124 00:11:57.620 --> 00:12:04.060 for sin left that has to be made in order for creation to be set free. It already has 125 00:12:04.060 --> 00:12:10.100 the power, so to speak, to be set free. We just have to open the door and set it free, 126 00:12:10.260 --> 00:12:16.980 but there's, we don't have to fight any battle to free it. We just have to open the door, 127 00:12:17.700 --> 00:12:23.540 but there's a lot of resistance that it's giving to us opening the door. So, but all we have to 128 00:12:23.540 --> 00:12:27.940 do to open the door, honestly, is not fighting a battle. That's what Jesus had to do. All that we 129 00:12:27.940 --> 00:12:33.140 have to do is present the truth of the gospel of the fact that it's already been done. And then 130 00:12:33.140 --> 00:12:39.940 it's like, oh, okay. So that is anyway. So does that, does that make sense? So what it is that 131 00:12:39.940 --> 00:12:43.940 we're doing when we're manifesting something, we're manifesting our relationship with the Lord 132 00:12:44.580 --> 00:12:48.660 word, you know, we're co-creating, that's what it is. It's co-creating with the Lord. 133 00:12:48.660 --> 00:12:55.860 It's bringing something from heaven into earth. And when we do that, then that's what overcomes 134 00:12:55.860 --> 00:13:01.300 creation. And sorry, that's what overcomes the unbelief of creation. That's what sets it free 135 00:13:02.180 --> 00:13:07.140 is we're bringing something from spirit into the earth, something from heaven into earth, Lord, 136 00:13:07.140 --> 00:13:13.380 you know, may it be on earth as it is in heaven. And then like the, as far as like, how do we 137 00:13:13.380 --> 00:13:20.980 know what to do? Well, it's, it's more like, we don't focus on what to do. We focus on, 138 00:13:22.180 --> 00:13:27.700 on our relationship with the Lord and in that, in resting in that and knowing there's nothing 139 00:13:27.700 --> 00:13:32.660 left to do even here on earth. There's no jobs that you have to do. There's no, 140 00:13:33.860 --> 00:13:39.780 um, uh, like in other words that God is requiring of you to, I don't know, in order to please him 141 00:13:39.780 --> 00:13:47.540 and whatever, he's just like, child, I put you there to express me, to, to, and so in what 142 00:13:47.540 --> 00:13:54.500 modality do you and I choose that, that who it is that we are in spirit is to be expressed. 143 00:13:54.500 --> 00:14:01.060 What job do you think that we should take in order to express you and me, because the job 144 00:14:01.060 --> 00:14:05.620 that you take and how you operate in that place and what role you have is going to express you 145 00:14:05.620 --> 00:14:12.660 and I in a very unique way. So, and we're bringing heaven into earth, which modality are we going to 146 00:14:12.660 --> 00:14:18.420 choose to allow to be part of the process of bringing heaven into earth? What aspect of 147 00:14:18.420 --> 00:14:23.060 creation are we going to allow to partner with us to do it, but understand that all of those aspects 148 00:14:23.060 --> 00:14:28.340 of creation that we allow to be part, like the jobs that we have, the churches that we go to, 149 00:14:28.340 --> 00:14:33.300 you know, the, the souls. In other words, the other people that we interact with, they are, um, 150 00:14:34.500 --> 00:14:39.780 uh, there, there are two, there are things that we allow to be part of the process, 151 00:14:39.780 --> 00:14:45.780 but they're not the point. Um, if that, if that makes sense, the point is your relationship with 152 00:14:45.780 --> 00:14:50.340 the Lord, what comes out of your relationship with the Lord naturally. In other words, 153 00:14:50.340 --> 00:14:55.060 all of the things that happen in life are supposed to be what flows out of your relationship. 154 00:14:55.620 --> 00:14:59.860 Who are you in God right now? And therefore based on who you, who you and God are. 155 00:15:00.000 --> 00:15:04.800 right now, what business is created from who you and God are right now. 156 00:15:04.800 --> 00:15:09.280 What job do you take because of who it is that you and God are right now, how much money 157 00:15:09.280 --> 00:15:12.280 do you make and how does that money come to you? 158 00:15:12.280 --> 00:15:16.800 Is based, you know, is based off of who are you and God right now, that kind of a thing. 159 00:15:16.800 --> 00:15:21.360 So what we're relying on is we're not relying on a, we're not focused on all of these milestones 160 00:15:21.360 --> 00:15:23.560 of all these things we need to get to do. 161 00:15:23.560 --> 00:15:27.760 What we're doing is we vote, we focus on our relationship with the Lord because we choose 162 00:15:27.760 --> 00:15:32.160 God, not our lifestyle, not a lifestyle, not a, Oh, I do these things and I've crossed 163 00:15:32.160 --> 00:15:35.200 these milestones and I'm married or I'm not married or I have kids or don't have kids 164 00:15:35.200 --> 00:15:41.120 or, you know, I, I have a particular job or I own my own business or I don't have a ministry. 165 00:15:41.120 --> 00:15:43.160 That's not what it's about. 166 00:15:43.160 --> 00:15:49.120 Now God might, God has his opinion about things that he wants ways that he wants you and he 167 00:15:49.120 --> 00:15:55.480 to express the two of you enter a certain, a ministry or a book or a business, but that 168 00:15:55.480 --> 00:16:01.520 does not define whether or not you are pleased that God is pleased with you. 169 00:16:01.520 --> 00:16:07.160 That's just something that it's the way in which God desires, Hey, when you, I want me 170 00:16:07.160 --> 00:16:12.680 to be shown into the earth and I know how that is best to be done. 171 00:16:12.680 --> 00:16:17.320 And then of course, as we mature, we get to present our ideas of what we think is a good 172 00:16:17.320 --> 00:16:18.320 idea. 173 00:16:18.320 --> 00:16:21.000 You know, I think it would be good, Lord, if we expressed you like this, I'd be, you 174 00:16:21.000 --> 00:16:22.000 know why? 175 00:16:22.000 --> 00:16:24.080 Because I think that this reflects your character. 176 00:16:24.080 --> 00:16:25.920 This reflects who you and I are right now. 177 00:16:25.920 --> 00:16:31.600 So what do you think, you know, and then he might say, it's a great idea, but you're three 178 00:16:31.600 --> 00:16:35.400 years old and you're asking, did you go to Disney world and live there? 179 00:16:35.400 --> 00:16:37.080 And I'm afraid we can't do that. 180 00:16:37.080 --> 00:16:40.520 You know, that's what some of our, some of our things that we present to the Lord in 181 00:16:40.520 --> 00:16:43.200 the spirit, that's what he equates to in the physical. 182 00:16:43.200 --> 00:16:47.040 It's like, that's really nice, but you're three. 183 00:16:47.040 --> 00:16:54.040 So your decision doesn't, or your opinion doesn't weigh as much in the final decision. 184 00:16:54.040 --> 00:16:59.240 But if you're 35, if you've matured to a certain point in your spirit with the Lord, where 185 00:16:59.240 --> 00:17:05.560 you were reflecting more and more of a spirit, your opinion weighs more in the conversation. 186 00:17:05.560 --> 00:17:11.839 That's why God listened to Moses when Moses said, you know, cause God said, you know, 187 00:17:11.839 --> 00:17:15.839 don't, um, uh, you know, Moses stand aside, I'm going to wipe out the Israelites. 188 00:17:15.839 --> 00:17:18.560 And Moses said, please don't do that. 189 00:17:18.560 --> 00:17:22.560 You know, Lord, you, that would, and then he, and he presented, you know, people are 190 00:17:22.560 --> 00:17:26.280 going to think, you know, it's going to kill your reputation, Lord, with other, other groups 191 00:17:26.280 --> 00:17:29.880 of people that are going to think that you've led your people out into the desert. 192 00:17:29.880 --> 00:17:32.280 You know, it's going to hurt your reputation, Lord, please don't do that. 193 00:17:32.280 --> 00:17:33.840 Cause remember what God said? 194 00:17:33.840 --> 00:17:36.080 He said, I am going to rebuild with you, Moses. 195 00:17:36.080 --> 00:17:38.400 I mean, that's a compliment, right? 196 00:17:38.400 --> 00:17:40.640 And most molar, please don't do that. 197 00:17:40.640 --> 00:17:43.600 And it says that God repented. 198 00:17:43.600 --> 00:17:48.120 God listened to Moses and didn't do what God said he was going to do. 199 00:17:48.120 --> 00:17:50.440 He did what Moses suggested. 200 00:17:50.440 --> 00:17:51.440 Why? 201 00:17:51.440 --> 00:17:53.840 Because Moses was reflecting God's character. 202 00:17:53.840 --> 00:17:56.040 He's like, that's a really good idea. 203 00:17:56.040 --> 00:17:57.040 Why? 204 00:17:57.040 --> 00:17:58.920 Because that's exactly what I would do. 205 00:17:58.920 --> 00:18:02.520 Would God also kill the whole group of Israelites and wipe them out? 206 00:18:02.520 --> 00:18:03.520 Absolutely. 207 00:18:03.520 --> 00:18:04.520 But he would also do this. 208 00:18:04.520 --> 00:18:09.440 So he's like, you know what, in this situation, we've co-counseled and you're mature enough 209 00:18:09.440 --> 00:18:11.920 where you're actually reflecting me. 210 00:18:11.920 --> 00:18:17.240 So of the two aspects of me, and then what decisions that I would make, we're going to 211 00:18:17.240 --> 00:18:18.600 go with this one. 212 00:18:18.600 --> 00:18:22.040 So God presented an idea, Moses presented the opposite. 213 00:18:22.040 --> 00:18:25.280 God repented of his idea, which just means that he turned the other way. 214 00:18:25.280 --> 00:18:29.720 And he said, okay, we're going to do this one because Moses had matured enough that 215 00:18:29.720 --> 00:18:35.120 in that co-counsel with the Lord, his decision or his opinion weighed more because he was 216 00:18:35.120 --> 00:18:36.860 reflecting God's character. 217 00:18:36.860 --> 00:18:42.620 So that, that everything that I just said, that's all part of the process of co-creating 218 00:18:42.620 --> 00:18:43.620 with the Lord. 219 00:18:43.620 --> 00:18:44.980 That's what we're doing. 220 00:18:44.980 --> 00:18:49.620 We are, when we're making those decisions and co-counseling with the Lord, regardless 221 00:18:49.620 --> 00:18:53.340 of where we are in our relationship, uh, in our maturity and whether we're three or we're 222 00:18:53.340 --> 00:19:01.140 35, whatever, what we're doing is we are partnering with the Lord to bring something from heaven 223 00:19:01.140 --> 00:19:02.980 into earth. 224 00:19:02.980 --> 00:19:09.180 And the more mature that we are in reflecting the God's character, the more our opinion 225 00:19:09.180 --> 00:19:16.340 weighs in how this thing from heaven or what that from heaven gets manifested. 226 00:19:16.340 --> 00:19:18.700 In other words, what gets created. 227 00:19:18.700 --> 00:19:28.660 So, but our co-creation with him is simply believing is, is, um, is giving his character 228 00:19:28.660 --> 00:19:31.220 access to creation. 229 00:19:31.220 --> 00:19:36.700 That's that co-creating it's, he always presents something, some aspect of himself that he 230 00:19:36.700 --> 00:19:38.700 desires to be made known. 231 00:19:38.700 --> 00:19:40.820 And we have to come into agreement with it by faith. 232 00:19:40.820 --> 00:19:45.740 We have to believe that it's true by faith in order to give it access to come into create 233 00:19:45.740 --> 00:19:48.620 creation, actually create something. 234 00:19:48.620 --> 00:19:56.220 And some of that will like, for instance, the fact that the fact that God is good can, 235 00:19:56.220 --> 00:19:58.540 you know, can express itself in a variety of ways. 236 00:19:58.540 --> 00:20:00.020 So God says, you know, I'm very good. 237 00:20:00.000 --> 00:20:06.520 I provide for you. I protect you. I, whatever. And so I am calling you. I desire the two 238 00:20:06.520 --> 00:20:13.040 of us to start this business. And you might be saying, I don't want to start that business. 239 00:20:13.040 --> 00:20:18.040 That does not sound like fun. You know, and God's like, yes, but that is actually an expression 240 00:20:18.040 --> 00:20:24.080 of my goodness, my provision, my protection, not just for you, but for that, for that neighborhood 241 00:20:24.080 --> 00:20:28.000 or the people who are going to be there. I don't know, whatever this there it's, it's 242 00:20:28.000 --> 00:20:33.960 a way in which me from heaven is finally going to be able to be seen in the earth in a new 243 00:20:33.960 --> 00:20:40.320 way to be able to begin to transform it. And you need to give permission. And then we let 244 00:20:40.320 --> 00:20:46.720 it in and we're like, okay, God, then we'll start that business. So that's that. And so 245 00:20:46.720 --> 00:20:53.200 obeying God, submitting to his will is us co-creating with him of like, okay, then that's 246 00:20:53.200 --> 00:20:57.320 what I'm going to do. So what it is that we're doing is we're not simply, we're not robots 247 00:20:57.320 --> 00:21:01.880 that are where God's got this grand thing of like what it is exactly. He wants to do 248 00:21:01.880 --> 00:21:05.880 more just as obedient servants to just, you know, to do whatever instructions that he 249 00:21:05.880 --> 00:21:13.200 sends out. The obedience is actually co-creating with him. Okay, God, that's what we'll do. 250 00:21:13.200 --> 00:21:16.200 We're doing it together. And what are we doing? What are we co-creating with the Lord? We 251 00:21:16.200 --> 00:21:23.480 are expressing who he is into the earth. We are allowing it to land. That's our role is 252 00:21:23.480 --> 00:21:29.080 allowing what God said and what God wants to land. And so that's creating something. 253 00:21:29.080 --> 00:21:32.920 That's how we co-create the Lord. And I, and I just bring up business because sometimes we 254 00:21:32.920 --> 00:21:38.680 think of it as like, well, a certain amount of money or a car or a need or whatever, but 255 00:21:38.680 --> 00:21:43.400 sometimes it's like something we don't even want. And God's like, I want you to partner with me on 256 00:21:43.400 --> 00:21:46.760 this. Well, we need to know what it is we're doing, especially if we don't want to do it. 257 00:21:46.760 --> 00:21:51.640 Cause then it feels like, well, I'm obeying. I'm not, I'm not co-creating with God. I'm 258 00:21:51.640 --> 00:21:57.160 obeying. I was like, no, that's co-creating. You know, now, if you, now, if you have an attitude 259 00:21:57.160 --> 00:22:01.560 about it and you're not doing it by faith, you're like, fine, God, I'll do what you want me to do. 260 00:22:01.560 --> 00:22:05.480 And you're going through the actions, but it's not, there's no faith in it. That's not co-creating, 261 00:22:06.520 --> 00:22:13.320 but God's like by faith, by relationship, by, by believing me, that is co-creating. 262 00:22:13.320 --> 00:22:19.960 Now you're doing it with me, not just obeying me. Now you're actually, um, now you're co-creating 263 00:22:19.960 --> 00:22:24.680 with me. So there's a measure of authority that you will have that you will not have. 264 00:22:24.680 --> 00:22:32.040 If you're only obeying by, by acting without faith. And also it means that you're, you're 265 00:22:32.040 --> 00:22:39.000 bringing in an aspect of, see if we obey and we don't just have the faith, then there's an aspect 266 00:22:39.000 --> 00:22:44.840 of, of ourselves that we're withholding from it. So we're not allowing, we're not bringing in our 267 00:22:44.840 --> 00:22:50.280 life. We're bringing death because we're not giving it our spirit. So by co-creating meaning 268 00:22:50.280 --> 00:22:57.480 like by accepting, by, by doing what the Lord says by faith in him, like, okay, God, I believe you. 269 00:22:57.480 --> 00:23:02.440 I believe you're good. I know that this isn't something I wanted to do. It wanted to do just 270 00:23:02.440 --> 00:23:07.720 as my natural soul, but Lord, you know, if you give me anything, it means you're good. It means 271 00:23:07.720 --> 00:23:11.880 you're doing this and you love me. It means that you provide for me. It means you protect me. It 272 00:23:11.880 --> 00:23:16.920 means that you're expressing an aspect of, of, you know, your, who it is that you say that you 273 00:23:16.920 --> 00:23:23.000 are and that I receive Lord. Okay. If this is how you want to express that I am all in. If we do 274 00:23:23.000 --> 00:23:30.680 that, we're, we are, Oh shoot. It is my, my thing is dying. So I might, if this dies before we, and 275 00:23:31.480 --> 00:23:34.760 before we finished, I'm going to have to switch to this computer. Thank the Lord to have another 276 00:23:34.760 --> 00:23:42.280 computer. They didn't give me a power source for this one. I don't know. I don't know. Well, 277 00:23:42.280 --> 00:23:47.400 now maybe I do have a power source. Let me, this is crazy. They, they promised me, Oh, Ashley, 278 00:23:47.400 --> 00:23:53.640 this won't that you won't, this won't die. I was like, well, I'm really worried. No, 279 00:23:53.640 --> 00:23:58.280 my husband took the other one. So if it dies, I've got, I've got the Ashley Perez, I'll jump on. 280 00:23:59.000 --> 00:24:05.240 And speaking of that, let me, let me make it the host, because we saw what happens that 281 00:24:05.240 --> 00:24:15.000 poor Tammy always has to be, and make, there we get changes. All right. So now we're saved. 282 00:24:15.720 --> 00:24:22.040 But but anyway, so I don't remember where I locked off, but does, does that make sense? 283 00:24:22.040 --> 00:24:26.680 It does. Thank you. I appreciate it. You're welcome. You can tell when any of y'all and 284 00:24:26.680 --> 00:24:31.880 Rita Renata, anyone can tell you that this is how I answer questions that I don't just answer 285 00:24:31.880 --> 00:24:38.440 the question because I have to, I want to provide the context in which the answer fits, because I 286 00:24:38.440 --> 00:24:45.080 want everyone to own this. I want them to know that this isn't a formula where, Oh my goodness, 287 00:24:45.080 --> 00:24:50.680 you know, I'm now in a, in a real life example, you know, a real life, a real life situation. 288 00:24:50.680 --> 00:24:54.280 And this is not one of the examples that Ashley used. So therefore I don't know how to like plug 289 00:24:54.280 --> 00:24:59.800 and play. No, it's a, I want you to, you know, to, to own this between you and the Lord so that no 290 00:25:00.000 --> 00:25:03.080 matter what you run into, you know, between you and the Lord, 291 00:25:03.080 --> 00:25:05.680 how to handle it. And it doesn't have to be anything that we've 292 00:25:05.680 --> 00:25:08.640 ever talked about. And you know, oh, in this situation, I know 293 00:25:08.640 --> 00:25:11.120 how to shift and arrest, you know, because you understand 294 00:25:11.120 --> 00:25:13.800 like the concept, you're owning this between you and the Lord. 295 00:25:13.800 --> 00:25:22.520 So anyway, just everybody. Does anyone have another question? 296 00:25:24.200 --> 00:25:29.040 I just have a quick question. When you said that if you're not 297 00:25:29.040 --> 00:25:32.760 resting, you're in resistance. Can you hear me? Okay. Yes. Yes, 298 00:25:32.760 --> 00:25:34.160 I can. I just wait 299 00:25:36.440 --> 00:25:39.440 that, uh, that you're if you're not resting, you're in 300 00:25:39.440 --> 00:25:45.400 resistance. And you might even be in resistance subconsciously 301 00:25:45.400 --> 00:25:50.120 not even know it. I think I've been that way and not how what 302 00:25:50.120 --> 00:25:55.120 is that have? I mean, naturally, probably a number of things, but 303 00:25:55.720 --> 00:26:04.960 um, how can I is there levels to the resistance? Like, how? Like, 304 00:26:04.960 --> 00:26:08.400 I don't know, I'm just thinking that I'm really resist, I've 305 00:26:08.400 --> 00:26:11.960 really resisted, like even I've even tried to slow down and 306 00:26:11.960 --> 00:26:17.280 stop. And I think it's helped a little. But I don't know, could 307 00:26:17.280 --> 00:26:21.440 it be something like that spiritual, like, heavier things 308 00:26:21.440 --> 00:26:26.960 in the background that could be resisting? Yeah. Okay. Yeah, 309 00:26:26.960 --> 00:26:30.640 yeah, I can. So that and this is just makes me nervous. So let 310 00:26:30.640 --> 00:26:32.160 me just switch over here really quick. 311 00:26:41.960 --> 00:26:43.600 Okay, so let me 312 00:26:52.440 --> 00:26:59.960 Okay. Okay, can y'all can I hear me? Okay, over here? Yes. Okay, 313 00:27:00.040 --> 00:27:06.040 perfect. So because this is not my computer, let me close this 314 00:27:06.040 --> 00:27:09.440 down. So it doesn't damage anything by 315 00:27:12.320 --> 00:27:17.040 have to eject that. Sorry, just one second. I have somebody 316 00:27:17.040 --> 00:27:19.840 else's computer. So I want to make sure that I treat it. 317 00:27:21.440 --> 00:27:22.480 Very well. 318 00:27:23.840 --> 00:27:24.680 Responder. 319 00:27:29.440 --> 00:27:30.400 But I messed up. 320 00:27:31.920 --> 00:27:33.480 Well, how do I close that? 321 00:27:36.600 --> 00:27:40.040 Well, um, maybe I can do this. 322 00:27:41.520 --> 00:27:43.440 Here it is. Okay, let's eject. 323 00:27:47.560 --> 00:27:48.120 Okay. 324 00:27:51.720 --> 00:27:56.720 Okay. So, um, so the resistance, so you know, that, that think of 325 00:27:56.720 --> 00:28:01.680 it, remember that we're, we're the balloon. So the balloon is, 326 00:28:01.720 --> 00:28:04.320 in other words, that's who it is that we naturally are. That's 327 00:28:04.320 --> 00:28:07.040 the new man. So that's our defaults. 328 00:28:08.200 --> 00:28:08.680 Okay. 329 00:28:10.040 --> 00:28:13.840 We're not operating in our default state. We're, we're in 330 00:28:13.840 --> 00:28:18.280 resistance. Why? Because it's, it's, it's natural. It's easy. 331 00:28:18.400 --> 00:28:21.680 So if we're not doing it, it means that we're doing something 332 00:28:21.720 --> 00:28:26.320 unnatural means that we're actually exerting energy, whether 333 00:28:26.320 --> 00:28:31.840 we know it or not, to not do the natural thing. So that's what I 334 00:28:31.840 --> 00:28:34.960 mean when I say that we're in, we're in actually in an active 335 00:28:34.960 --> 00:28:38.440 state of resistance, even if we don't know it. No, even if we're 336 00:28:38.440 --> 00:28:42.480 not aware of, like, even if we're not stressed or if we're 337 00:28:42.480 --> 00:28:45.280 not anxious, if there's some, if there's some way that we're 338 00:28:45.280 --> 00:28:48.960 not believing God, we're in unrest. And there's some aspect 339 00:28:48.960 --> 00:28:51.520 of energy somewhere. It's not necessarily physical. I'm just 340 00:28:51.520 --> 00:28:54.920 using energy as kind of a word that we can relate to in that 341 00:28:54.920 --> 00:28:59.280 we're exerting to not naturally be ourselves. So really the 342 00:28:59.280 --> 00:29:03.760 resistance is as simple as it's unbelief is it that it's, it's 343 00:29:03.760 --> 00:29:07.960 stopping us from, from moving forward to, you know, to just 344 00:29:07.960 --> 00:29:12.720 naturally float up. And, and as far as like, you know, like, 345 00:29:13.560 --> 00:29:17.480 and, and as far as like how it can evidence manifest itself, 346 00:29:17.480 --> 00:29:22.960 yeah, sometimes we are very aware of, of feeling resistant, 347 00:29:23.200 --> 00:29:26.840 especially if we start to begin to identify the areas of 348 00:29:26.840 --> 00:29:32.280 unbelief. We will feel it when we become very aware of 349 00:29:32.280 --> 00:29:36.720 ourselves, you'll begin to feel the resistance to believe in God 350 00:29:36.720 --> 00:29:41.760 about something. So oftentimes people ask, well, you know, 351 00:29:43.080 --> 00:29:46.800 uh, what, what is it that I'm supposed to have faith got in 352 00:29:46.800 --> 00:29:49.000 God in like, say, for instance, they're in this particular 353 00:29:49.000 --> 00:29:52.440 situation, like, okay, am I I'm in unrest, apparently, you know, 354 00:29:52.440 --> 00:29:56.360 so apparently I'm in resistance. So how do I let go? What am I 355 00:29:56.360 --> 00:29:58.880 supposed to be? Where am I supposed to be instead? What 356 00:29:58.880 --> 00:30:00.000 state am I supposed to be instead? 357 00:30:00.000 --> 00:30:03.300 It's like, well, you're supposed to be believing something about God. 358 00:30:03.800 --> 00:30:07.880 So I don't say that you have to know what it is that you're believing about God, 359 00:30:07.880 --> 00:30:12.680 but in order to let go, but again, simplistically, let's just say you 360 00:30:12.680 --> 00:30:13.880 begin to kind of think about it. 361 00:30:13.880 --> 00:30:18.120 Well, you know, am I like, say for instance, you, you, um, someone loses 362 00:30:18.120 --> 00:30:23.400 their job and then they're, they, they, so their fear is, okay, I need money. 363 00:30:23.480 --> 00:30:24.560 I don't have money. 364 00:30:24.560 --> 00:30:27.640 So what would we relate to God about with that? 365 00:30:28.080 --> 00:30:30.560 That God is not providing for me. 366 00:30:30.560 --> 00:30:32.080 Therefore God is not provider. 367 00:30:32.080 --> 00:30:36.440 He does sometimes to some people, but not all the time and not to me, 368 00:30:36.640 --> 00:30:42.800 you know, or we're, we're questioning his goodness, you know, well, God, God is, 369 00:30:42.840 --> 00:30:48.440 God is provider, but you know, sometimes the way that God provides, it's not 370 00:30:48.440 --> 00:30:50.920 comfortable, it's really hard. 371 00:30:51.160 --> 00:30:57.000 And you know, it just, God's God feels kind of mean, you know, and we don't 372 00:30:57.000 --> 00:31:00.000 want to believe these things about God, but let's just be honest and do. 373 00:31:00.600 --> 00:31:05.480 Um, so we can start feeling resistance when you can start, I'm just giving you 374 00:31:05.480 --> 00:31:09.440 an idea of like how you can start to become aware of it, uh, of what resistance 375 00:31:09.440 --> 00:31:14.120 feels like, is if you think, okay, well then apparently I'm in this situation, 376 00:31:14.160 --> 00:31:17.000 you know, and, and a couple of the things, maybe that I'm not believing 377 00:31:17.000 --> 00:31:18.200 about God or that he's good. 378 00:31:18.760 --> 00:31:19.880 And then he's provider. 379 00:31:20.200 --> 00:31:23.160 So you start trying to think, okay, yeah, but what does God say about himself? 380 00:31:23.160 --> 00:31:24.520 Well, he says that he is provider. 381 00:31:25.080 --> 00:31:30.840 So you go to try to believe that and you're going to find, you're going to find 382 00:31:30.840 --> 00:31:34.840 that you, you can't quite get there and you're finding it really hard, hard to 383 00:31:34.840 --> 00:31:39.200 choose and you're finding it really hard to believe, and there's something in you 384 00:31:39.200 --> 00:31:41.280 that you're going to feel is pulling back. 385 00:31:41.720 --> 00:31:47.680 And so that's something, that's how I began to use the word resistance is I 386 00:31:47.680 --> 00:31:53.800 was struggling so much with the Lord that I was feeling that thing in me that I 387 00:31:53.840 --> 00:31:56.000 would get to the very edge, the very threshold. 388 00:31:56.000 --> 00:31:57.200 And all I had to do was choose. 389 00:31:57.200 --> 00:32:00.520 And I'm like, oh, but I don't want to, I don't want to even choose. 390 00:32:01.120 --> 00:32:02.840 No, I'm supposed to, and I was good thing. 391 00:32:03.120 --> 00:32:07.000 I know that God says that he'll take care of me, but there is a reason 392 00:32:07.000 --> 00:32:08.160 why we don't believe he's good. 393 00:32:08.600 --> 00:32:11.280 There is a reason why we don't believe that he'll provide for us. 394 00:32:11.720 --> 00:32:13.560 And that's what stops us at the final thing. 395 00:32:13.560 --> 00:32:15.880 We can believe him to this extent, but then we finally get here. 396 00:32:15.880 --> 00:32:21.200 I'm like, it's the thing that finally causes us to say it. 397 00:32:21.200 --> 00:32:24.840 That has always caused us to say, no, that's that, that resistance. 398 00:32:24.840 --> 00:32:29.160 Now, as far as like, you know, to go even further about it, you know, into 399 00:32:29.160 --> 00:32:33.520 your question of like, can it have, have layers it can have, you can have 400 00:32:33.520 --> 00:32:38.760 greater strengths of resistance that are built up for different reasons. 401 00:32:38.760 --> 00:32:41.480 Sometimes it's because you have lots and lots and lots and lots and lots 402 00:32:41.480 --> 00:32:44.440 of proof and affirmation that what God said really isn't true. 403 00:32:44.920 --> 00:32:46.160 And you're holding onto that. 404 00:32:47.040 --> 00:32:48.880 It's just really, really weighing me down. 405 00:32:48.880 --> 00:32:51.480 Think of that, a balloon grabbing, holding more and more and more and more 406 00:32:51.480 --> 00:32:54.880 weights, instead of just grabbing a hold of one, it's grabbing a hold of a 407 00:32:54.880 --> 00:32:59.680 lot in that particular area and it weighs it down even more so it, so when 408 00:32:59.680 --> 00:33:02.440 it lets go of one of the weights, it still has all of the other ones 409 00:33:02.440 --> 00:33:03.400 that it's holding on to. 410 00:33:03.720 --> 00:33:05.480 So what do we call that a stronghold? 411 00:33:06.600 --> 00:33:13.840 So you can have, and then with that, you can have, um, small holds, et cetera. 412 00:33:14.240 --> 00:33:17.800 Now they had to have, they had to have a way in how all that works. 413 00:33:17.800 --> 00:33:18.240 Exactly. 414 00:33:18.240 --> 00:33:20.960 I'm not really sure, you know, we can talk about, well, you have to give 415 00:33:20.960 --> 00:33:24.520 them permission, which in a way I believe, but then there's also this 416 00:33:24.520 --> 00:33:28.720 aspect of, well, it happens if it sometimes happens to kids, it happens 417 00:33:28.720 --> 00:33:31.040 to, you know, children, you know, how on earth did that happen? 418 00:33:31.040 --> 00:33:33.480 You know, well, they didn't know what they were doing, you know, whatnot. 419 00:33:33.880 --> 00:33:38.000 I don't really know all the ins and outs, but I just know that generally 420 00:33:38.000 --> 00:33:43.680 speaking, you have to give it, you know, it's authority or the authority to 421 00:33:43.680 --> 00:33:49.040 stay and to not let it go, you know, even when someone's like trying to do 422 00:33:49.040 --> 00:33:52.360 deliverance, you know, on, you know, or you, or they can deliver you. 423 00:33:53.080 --> 00:33:55.280 And then, and then it comes back. 424 00:33:55.320 --> 00:33:55.560 Why? 425 00:33:55.560 --> 00:33:58.240 Because you didn't, you left yourself open again. 426 00:33:58.240 --> 00:33:58.520 Right. 427 00:33:58.960 --> 00:34:04.280 So my point is that there is that the demonic can sometimes in certain 428 00:34:04.280 --> 00:34:08.679 situations play a role in what we would refer to as resistance, but 429 00:34:08.679 --> 00:34:11.000 really the foothold is unbelief. 430 00:34:11.920 --> 00:34:17.960 So it can't, the devil can't touch us in any area in which we're believing the Lord. 431 00:34:18.760 --> 00:34:22.120 And then there are areas in which we're not believing the Lord that quite 432 00:34:22.120 --> 00:34:24.120 honestly, Satan has absolutely no part in. 433 00:34:24.400 --> 00:34:26.360 I mean, it's just like, he's not even in the picture. 434 00:34:26.360 --> 00:34:27.320 This is just us. 435 00:34:27.560 --> 00:34:28.600 It's just us and God. 436 00:34:28.840 --> 00:34:29.120 Right. 437 00:34:29.440 --> 00:34:30.639 And we're just not believing him. 438 00:34:30.639 --> 00:34:35.719 So there's different, uh, uh, degrees to which we can feel the resistance. 439 00:34:35.719 --> 00:34:39.800 We can feel a greater measure of resistance because of the stronghold that 440 00:34:39.840 --> 00:34:43.000 we've created in a particular area of our life, because of the weight and 441 00:34:43.000 --> 00:34:48.000 the significance we've given to the proof that we've seen, we're giving it that 442 00:34:48.000 --> 00:34:49.880 weight, we're giving it that significance. 443 00:34:50.159 --> 00:34:53.679 And then also sometimes, you know, there's, there's demonic strongholds, 444 00:34:53.679 --> 00:34:57.560 et cetera, which we can be deliberative and whatever, but, um, but yeah. 445 00:34:57.960 --> 00:35:00.080 So I recognize the judgment. 446 00:35:00.000 --> 00:35:06.800 that no judgments. Oh, I recognize that I didn't even realize until you said it, that 447 00:35:06.800 --> 00:35:15.360 I was holding judgments against why. Yeah, I think I've said that to God, you know, why 448 00:35:15.360 --> 00:35:19.200 did this happen? Or why did they do this to me? Or, you know, that kind of thing. That's 449 00:35:19.200 --> 00:35:24.560 like you said, it's, it's like making judgments. So I recognize that part I need to release 450 00:35:24.560 --> 00:35:31.320 but, but that's all good. Okay. There's a lot of work to be done. Fascinating thing 451 00:35:31.320 --> 00:35:36.760 about things like judgment, you know, etc, especially judgment towards ourselves. Here's 452 00:35:36.760 --> 00:35:43.880 the Satan cannot have any power over us, unless we give it to him. And what happened with 453 00:35:43.880 --> 00:35:52.840 Eve is the fact that he used Eve's power against her. Eve is the one that was that was above 454 00:35:52.840 --> 00:35:56.240 him in a manner of speaking, you know, she was in God, she couldn't be touched, or I 455 00:35:56.240 --> 00:36:00.760 don't want to, I don't know how that works. But the point is, she couldn't be touched. 456 00:36:00.760 --> 00:36:05.400 That's why he had to get her to stop believing. He couldn't force anything on her. That's 457 00:36:05.400 --> 00:36:10.440 why he was trying to convince her of stuff, because it was only in her getting into it 458 00:36:10.440 --> 00:36:18.360 that would work. So what that's what that's what was so vile about what Satan did is he 459 00:36:18.360 --> 00:36:22.680 vile, he used someone else's and that's what manipulation is. And I don't remember, I don't 460 00:36:22.680 --> 00:36:27.160 think I went into the extent of it here. But I talked about it in another session, I'm 461 00:36:27.160 --> 00:36:33.240 unfortunately won't get to but what what manipulation is, is it does the sin of witchcraft. 462 00:36:33.240 --> 00:36:39.720 Why is it that bad? Why is it that vile? Because you're taking someone's free will and your 463 00:36:40.280 --> 00:36:46.200 and, and ability to empower the like, procreate with the Lord or whatever. And you're getting 464 00:36:46.200 --> 00:36:52.200 them to take that thing and turn it against themselves to destroy themselves. That's why 465 00:36:52.200 --> 00:36:56.760 manipulation is so vile. That's why it's at the center of witchcraft. That's what Satan was doing. 466 00:36:56.760 --> 00:37:03.000 He was getting the fact that Eve gets to live out in existence according to what it is that 467 00:37:03.000 --> 00:37:08.600 she believes about God. So what does he do when he's taking her belief, and he's turning it against 468 00:37:08.600 --> 00:37:15.160 her to destroy so that she will actually self destruct. Satan didn't destroy her. It was it 469 00:37:15.160 --> 00:37:21.240 was him using her power, that whatever that she gets to live out the existence of what she believed 470 00:37:21.240 --> 00:37:26.120 about God is getting her to turn it against herself and destroy yourself because believing 471 00:37:26.120 --> 00:37:31.880 no God isn't who he says that he is. And so and that's what's so awful about it. So that's what's 472 00:37:31.880 --> 00:37:37.160 happening to us when we condemn ourselves, when we shame ourselves. And when we judge ourselves, 473 00:37:37.160 --> 00:37:41.400 we're taking this power, so to speak, and I don't mean power apart from Christ. I'm not talking 474 00:37:41.400 --> 00:37:46.520 about the fact that we're like powerful or gods or something. I just mean that we have this and 475 00:37:46.520 --> 00:37:53.400 that God is taking this power of our book that the power of our belief in him is taking that 476 00:37:53.400 --> 00:37:58.920 we're taking that and we're turning it against ourselves to self destroy. That's what is so vile 477 00:37:58.920 --> 00:38:07.240 about self doubt, you know, is you are destroying yourself. It's similar to like the those I a soul 478 00:38:07.240 --> 00:38:15.160 version of what happens in the body with an autoimmune disease where it thinks that itself 479 00:38:15.160 --> 00:38:19.640 is the problem. And so it turns in on itself and begins to destroy. So that's what that's 480 00:38:19.640 --> 00:38:24.520 the soulish version or the, you know, you know, version that would happen in the soul would be 481 00:38:24.520 --> 00:38:31.240 judging oneself, feeling shame, condemnation, using all because it's turning in and against 482 00:38:32.360 --> 00:38:36.680 when really we're the thing that brings because we're in Christ, we bring life. So anyway, 483 00:38:37.480 --> 00:38:43.560 so it's to be taken very seriously. Yes, we have all of us realize, no, we really do have 484 00:38:43.560 --> 00:38:49.720 permission to let go of that shame and that condemnation because it's self destructive. 485 00:38:49.720 --> 00:38:59.160 Right? Thank you. All right. Okay, well, play more to talk about. I will see you all on Tuesday 486 00:38:59.160 --> 00:39:04.520 for the first rest group, which will basically be like the breakout sessions that we were doing 487 00:39:04.520 --> 00:39:09.640 here. Only we'll be in there for like 40 minutes while everyone just separates. So what it is, 488 00:39:09.640 --> 00:39:17.160 so you just come and discuss what it is that it's been going on in your journey with the Lord, 489 00:39:17.800 --> 00:39:22.840 you know, in your spirit about all of these things, because my teaching is not something 490 00:39:22.840 --> 00:39:27.400 that Oh, this is what Ashley teaches. And let me see what I think about it. And let me try to, 491 00:39:27.960 --> 00:39:33.400 you know, grab ahold of it as a rules and form is new rules and formulas to follow and do that. 492 00:39:33.400 --> 00:39:39.240 That's not what this is about. This is you take these concepts before the Lord, because this is 493 00:39:39.240 --> 00:39:43.320 what I believe I received from the Lord. And this is what it is that I live about. So I'm just 494 00:39:43.320 --> 00:39:48.840 expressing to y'all what it is that I believe and how does I live? But if but you take that for 495 00:39:48.840 --> 00:39:55.160 Lord, like, okay, Lord, was that from you? And is that is, is that from you, Lord, to me personally? 496 00:39:55.160 --> 00:39:59.800 And what do I do with it? What does this? How do you and I Lord, if 497 00:40:00.000 --> 00:40:01.600 What she's saying is true. 498 00:40:01.600 --> 00:40:03.260 That's how you interact with me. 499 00:40:03.260 --> 00:40:05.300 Where do you and I go from here? 500 00:40:05.300 --> 00:40:07.300 How do you, how do I begin to change? 501 00:40:07.300 --> 00:40:10.940 So begin to kind of take these topics 502 00:40:10.940 --> 00:40:13.900 and use them to introduce conversations 503 00:40:13.900 --> 00:40:17.300 between you and the Lord of what is He, 504 00:40:17.300 --> 00:40:20.100 so that you begin to face different aspects of yourself. 505 00:40:20.100 --> 00:40:21.500 You begin to face different aspects 506 00:40:21.500 --> 00:40:23.740 of what you should believe about God. 507 00:40:23.740 --> 00:40:25.980 Just know, just be prepared. 508 00:40:25.980 --> 00:40:27.700 It is a challenging journey. 509 00:40:27.700 --> 00:40:29.580 That's why I do it as a group. 510 00:40:29.980 --> 00:40:32.640 Because it kind of fills the greater support of one another. 511 00:40:32.640 --> 00:40:35.700 It's very challenging because you're finally facing 512 00:40:35.700 --> 00:40:37.420 the aspects of yourself that you didn't want 513 00:40:37.420 --> 00:40:38.660 to believe were there, 514 00:40:38.660 --> 00:40:40.780 or that you thought God would condemn you for, 515 00:40:40.780 --> 00:40:43.460 or you thought would cause God to separate from you. 516 00:40:43.460 --> 00:40:44.500 In other words, that He would stop, 517 00:40:44.500 --> 00:40:46.580 not that you would stop being a Christian, 518 00:40:46.580 --> 00:40:48.140 but that He would stop being pleased with you, 519 00:40:48.140 --> 00:40:49.980 or that you would stop hearing His voice, 520 00:40:49.980 --> 00:40:51.580 you'd stop having this direction, 521 00:40:51.580 --> 00:40:54.220 that you wouldn't fulfill your destiny, 522 00:40:54.220 --> 00:40:55.580 what you were supposed to do, 523 00:40:55.580 --> 00:40:56.420 or all of this stuff. 524 00:40:56.420 --> 00:40:58.580 There's so much fear in there. 525 00:40:58.580 --> 00:41:02.220 We have to face those in order for God to prove to you 526 00:41:02.220 --> 00:41:07.020 by experience that He's not who you thought He was. 527 00:41:07.020 --> 00:41:10.180 He has to prove that He really is who He says that He is, 528 00:41:10.180 --> 00:41:11.980 and it won't happen by logic. 529 00:41:11.980 --> 00:41:14.620 It'll happen because you risk everything, 530 00:41:14.620 --> 00:41:17.420 and finally put yourself very vulnerable, 531 00:41:17.420 --> 00:41:19.300 very vulnerably in front of Him, 532 00:41:19.300 --> 00:41:22.820 and have Him prove to you by finally experiencing, 533 00:41:22.820 --> 00:41:24.660 oh, He really did catch me. 534 00:41:24.660 --> 00:41:25.740 He really is good to me. 535 00:41:25.740 --> 00:41:27.060 He really does love me. 536 00:41:27.660 --> 00:41:29.500 He really does love and accept me, 537 00:41:29.500 --> 00:41:32.060 and talk to me unconditionally, 538 00:41:32.060 --> 00:41:34.820 even though I have all of this stuff. 539 00:41:34.820 --> 00:41:38.060 And then He can finally, once we're vulnerable, 540 00:41:38.060 --> 00:41:41.500 He can take us on this journey of healing, 541 00:41:41.500 --> 00:41:44.620 restoring, and finally maturing. 542 00:41:48.020 --> 00:41:50.260 And then please watch the, 543 00:41:50.260 --> 00:41:52.820 if you go in, you'll notice that into the platform, 544 00:41:52.860 --> 00:41:56.900 if you go, you'll notice that I have, 545 00:41:56.900 --> 00:42:00.060 I replaced all of the sessions, all of those days. 546 00:42:00.060 --> 00:42:01.780 I replaced them with the actual sessions. 547 00:42:01.780 --> 00:42:03.340 So if you click on them, 548 00:42:03.340 --> 00:42:07.820 you'll go in where the session will appear at the top, 549 00:42:07.820 --> 00:42:10.180 and you click on it, and it'll play for you. 550 00:42:10.180 --> 00:42:11.140 I just tested it. 551 00:42:11.140 --> 00:42:14.260 So there's, if you go to the rest retreat, 552 00:42:14.260 --> 00:42:15.340 if you open it up now, 553 00:42:15.340 --> 00:42:18.340 it'll no longer say like January 28th. 554 00:42:18.340 --> 00:42:20.700 It'll say session one, love affair. 555 00:42:20.740 --> 00:42:23.300 You click on that and it'll fill your screen. 556 00:42:23.300 --> 00:42:25.380 You click on the video and whatever. 557 00:42:25.380 --> 00:42:27.660 Also, you'll notice that a lot of, 558 00:42:27.660 --> 00:42:29.620 I'm assuming that y'all will be watching on a computer. 559 00:42:29.620 --> 00:42:32.020 So I'm telling you if you're on the computer, 560 00:42:32.020 --> 00:42:32.980 it'll do this. 561 00:42:32.980 --> 00:42:35.420 On the right hand side, you'll notice the little box. 562 00:42:35.420 --> 00:42:36.860 It'll say, post your comment. 563 00:42:36.860 --> 00:42:38.620 You can comment in there. 564 00:42:38.620 --> 00:42:40.220 You can even ask questions. 565 00:42:40.220 --> 00:42:43.340 Now, what I won't do is I don't answer questions 566 00:42:43.340 --> 00:42:47.100 in between times, in between like the live, 567 00:42:47.140 --> 00:42:51.900 the fireside chats and the rest groups and all of that. 568 00:42:51.900 --> 00:42:53.620 So, but you can post them there 569 00:42:53.620 --> 00:42:56.060 so that you remember what your question is, right? 570 00:42:56.060 --> 00:42:57.460 You can post them there, 571 00:42:57.460 --> 00:42:59.540 and then remind me of the question 572 00:42:59.540 --> 00:43:01.580 during one of the three times during the week 573 00:43:01.580 --> 00:43:02.580 for the next six weeks. 574 00:43:02.580 --> 00:43:05.700 You do realize that's us meeting at least 18 times, right? 575 00:43:05.700 --> 00:43:08.700 Plenty of time to be able to have questions answered. 576 00:43:08.700 --> 00:43:11.780 And then, so you can post questions. 577 00:43:14.660 --> 00:43:16.460 It's kind of like being on a Facebook live 578 00:43:16.820 --> 00:43:18.100 or a Facebook post. 579 00:43:18.100 --> 00:43:19.340 You should just comment in there 580 00:43:19.340 --> 00:43:21.860 and see, you're welcome to do that. 581 00:43:21.860 --> 00:43:24.100 And anyway, so I recommend that you go through, 582 00:43:24.100 --> 00:43:26.420 re-watch anything that you'd like. 583 00:43:26.420 --> 00:43:28.100 Of course, you've got lifetime access to them. 584 00:43:28.100 --> 00:43:30.060 We can watch whenever you want, 585 00:43:30.060 --> 00:43:33.500 but I would watch also the kinship and releasing exercises, 586 00:43:33.500 --> 00:43:36.780 which is the session four that we skipped. 587 00:43:36.780 --> 00:43:38.700 That one's about an hour, 40 minutes. 588 00:43:38.700 --> 00:43:41.820 And that one walks through some practical exercises 589 00:43:41.820 --> 00:43:46.820 about how to begin to govern yourself again, 590 00:43:47.300 --> 00:43:50.420 instead of feeling governed by your soul and your body 591 00:43:50.420 --> 00:43:51.900 and feeling subject to it. 592 00:43:51.900 --> 00:43:53.260 How do you switch that? 593 00:43:57.260 --> 00:43:58.940 What, the session four? 594 00:43:58.940 --> 00:43:59.780 Session four. 595 00:43:59.780 --> 00:44:02.140 Did you say something else with the session four? 596 00:44:03.220 --> 00:44:06.300 Well, it's session for kinship and releasing exercises 597 00:44:06.300 --> 00:44:07.380 is what it's called. 598 00:44:07.380 --> 00:44:08.900 And I said what it was going to do, 599 00:44:08.900 --> 00:44:11.100 it's mostly practical exercises 600 00:44:11.100 --> 00:44:15.100 that will help you switch between feeling governed 601 00:44:15.100 --> 00:44:17.580 to governing your soul and your body. 602 00:44:17.580 --> 00:44:18.700 It'll basically help, 603 00:44:18.700 --> 00:44:23.620 it's tools to help you like regain control of yourself, 604 00:44:23.620 --> 00:44:25.620 to rule, to teach yourself how to be a king. 605 00:44:25.620 --> 00:44:27.300 Like, oh, this is what God intended. 606 00:44:27.300 --> 00:44:29.220 I didn't realize I felt victim to myself. 607 00:44:29.220 --> 00:44:30.820 I thought that I owned myself, 608 00:44:30.820 --> 00:44:32.860 but some of these tools, when you go through them, 609 00:44:32.860 --> 00:44:34.140 you'll realize, oh, wow, 610 00:44:34.140 --> 00:44:36.500 I've actually felt subject to my thoughts 611 00:44:36.500 --> 00:44:38.420 because I didn't know how to control them. 612 00:44:38.420 --> 00:44:40.900 So anyway, so it's stuff like that. 613 00:44:41.660 --> 00:44:42.500 So I recommend doing that. 614 00:44:42.500 --> 00:44:47.500 And then I will see y'all all back on Tuesday night. 615 00:44:47.580 --> 00:44:49.180 You can get the Zoom. 616 00:44:50.100 --> 00:44:54.260 I think you can get the Zoom link on, 617 00:44:54.260 --> 00:44:55.660 like if you click on that date, 618 00:44:55.660 --> 00:44:57.500 you can get the Zoom link. 619 00:44:57.500 --> 00:44:58.340 Oh, one more thing. 620 00:44:58.340 --> 00:44:59.460 I forgot about this. 621 00:45:00.000 --> 00:45:17.000 Okay, so Sunday through Thursday. I kind of, there's something for every single day. So, just think about from Sunday to Thursday you've got something every day or slash every night so we're either meeting from nine to 10 Eastern Standard Time, or on Mondays and 622 00:45:17.000 --> 00:45:32.000 on Wednesdays you posted journey share. So you'll notice that in the discussion tab. It's like a Facebook wall, go in there and you look at past journey shares that people have done go to the Welcome tab that that I mentioned in there under general 623 00:45:33.000 --> 00:45:46.000 Welcome tab that'll explain what a journey share is. In fact, I think if you click on just any of the days that it says journey share I think it explains what a journey share is, and you're just simply sharing, you know where it is that you are right 624 00:45:46.000 --> 00:45:56.000 now. And, you know, what it is that you're thinking what is your processing how you're struggling and in what in what areas that you've seen victory between you and the Lord. 625 00:45:56.000 --> 00:46:11.000 And I recommend scrolling down through a past journey shares that people have given some of them videos. So this this pro platform currently doesn't let you do live videos, but it will let you create a video and then upload it just like you sometimes 626 00:46:11.000 --> 00:46:18.000 create a video and upload it on your Facebook page, if you can't do a lot is let you upload a video. 627 00:46:18.000 --> 00:46:27.000 And as you just upload a video or you do a written post and just look below and see how other people have done it like okay actually I don't understand what you mean. 628 00:46:27.000 --> 00:46:36.000 And if you just scroll through enough of them watching some videos reading some posts you're like, Oh, that's how people are doing it. And, and. 629 00:46:36.000 --> 00:46:54.000 And so the point of that is to help you on your journey articulate your process. I promise you there is a world of difference between the people who articulate it, and the people who don't, and whether or not they shift into how far they shift. 630 00:46:54.000 --> 00:47:08.000 Because it's not that it's a magical tool, I'm telling you what I have worked with people for, for almost three years now, and I'm telling you, there is a huge difference in the people that are vulnerable, not, you don't have to give private information, 631 00:47:08.000 --> 00:47:16.000 but vulnerable about their feelings of struggle the process of the journey and all that your private information that you choose to share totally up to you. 632 00:47:17.000 --> 00:47:25.000 But you do need to be vulnerable and like the process of your, of your journey with the Lord about shifting to rest believing and trusting and that kind of thing. 633 00:47:25.000 --> 00:47:41.000 And there is a world of difference between those that that articulate it, and those in those who don't stop and, and, and do that. And it's simply because it forces you to face between you and the Lord what's going on and not hide from it. 634 00:47:41.000 --> 00:47:57.000 And it also forces you to be vulnerable with other people, so that you can find God. In fact, there was one lady that that was struggling so hard, and she struggled for months trying to get a breakthrough. 635 00:47:57.000 --> 00:48:09.000 And she called me crying she's like actually I cannot get this breakthrough and I've worked, you know, with you for months I've had all this progress but this one area I just can't what's going on and I said, you're not being vulnerable with the Lord 636 00:48:09.000 --> 00:48:15.000 and she's like well I'm trying how do I need to do that I said it's for you. 637 00:48:15.000 --> 00:48:28.000 It's to be vulnerable with the group, post it in a group post the struggle that you're having post that in a group, and I said, and that will allow you to finally get a breakthrough because then it will break something inside you that's trying to hide. 638 00:48:29.000 --> 00:48:39.000 Because you finally opened it up because you know how to open up to other people you'll finally find that place and even knows how to open it up to the Lord. And that's what God needs God needs your vulnerability and she was terrified. 639 00:48:39.000 --> 00:48:41.000 She posted it. 640 00:48:41.000 --> 00:48:52.000 Not every post is this extreme but hers was this extreme this is so extreme she wanted to hide it. She posted it. She woke up the next morning immediately had regret. Why did I do it, but she kept it up. 641 00:48:52.000 --> 00:48:59.000 And she said, and it was like that day I think she got a breakthrough. She'd been struggling for months. 642 00:48:59.000 --> 00:49:10.000 And as soon as she posted it, that next day she posted night and went to bed. That next day, she had a breakthrough she said that is wild. She was so touched by it. 643 00:49:10.000 --> 00:49:20.000 And of course she just bared her soul you know to everybody, she pops on the group the next day on video, the other was written so she can hide behind the words on video she posted the next day. 644 00:49:20.000 --> 00:49:33.000 Okay, everybody. This is what happened. This is why I made that post yesterday. This is why you know how I got to that point, I was, I was hiding and actually said I would finally get this breakthrough that y'all been watching me struggle with for months on the 645 00:49:33.000 --> 00:49:47.000 chat and on the, on the, you know, on the, the end on the stream everything, and she said, actually told me to do it I didn't want to. So she gets on the sheet testifies that that is what finally got her breakthrough. 646 00:49:47.000 --> 00:49:59.000 So, that's why I do this. It's a process it's not busy work, I'm like, I am a process improvement specialist, my specialty is reducing everything to the most simplistic form it can possibly be and still be effective. 647 00:50:00.000 --> 00:50:02.800 when I'm doing this is because it makes all the difference 648 00:50:02.800 --> 00:50:03.620 in the world. 649 00:50:03.620 --> 00:50:07.000 It's a tool you can use to help you be vulnerable 650 00:50:07.000 --> 00:50:10.880 with the Lord so that things can finally change. 651 00:50:10.880 --> 00:50:12.400 This isn't about feeling better. 652 00:50:12.400 --> 00:50:15.680 It's not about simply having a paradigm shift in your mind. 653 00:50:15.680 --> 00:50:19.040 It's about actually finally getting to have a life 654 00:50:19.040 --> 00:50:23.360 transformed by the true power of the gospel. 655 00:50:23.360 --> 00:50:26.280 So anyway, so that's what the journey share is. 656 00:50:26.320 --> 00:50:28.240 So I recommend, you know, 657 00:50:28.240 --> 00:50:30.120 we've got our fireside chats on Sunday, 658 00:50:30.120 --> 00:50:32.580 do a rest share on a journey share on Monday. 659 00:50:32.580 --> 00:50:34.680 That's in the group that all this are listed 660 00:50:34.680 --> 00:50:37.200 as Sunday, Monday, you know, whatever. 661 00:50:37.200 --> 00:50:40.040 And then we meet on to rest group on Tuesday, 662 00:50:40.040 --> 00:50:41.580 do a journey share on Wednesday. 663 00:50:41.580 --> 00:50:46.200 And then we've got the fireside chat on Thursday. 664 00:50:47.520 --> 00:50:50.520 I promise it's not as cumbersome as it sounds 665 00:50:50.520 --> 00:50:53.000 because really all you're doing is this is helping you 666 00:50:53.000 --> 00:50:54.780 live the rest of your life. 667 00:50:54.780 --> 00:50:55.740 The fact that you don't want to go 668 00:50:55.740 --> 00:50:57.420 to the grocery store today, you know, 669 00:50:57.420 --> 00:50:59.460 it actually deals with that. 670 00:50:59.460 --> 00:51:01.100 You know, it deals with the fact that, you know, 671 00:51:01.100 --> 00:51:02.740 you're struggling at work or you're wondering, 672 00:51:02.740 --> 00:51:04.060 well, what should I do for work? 673 00:51:04.060 --> 00:51:05.620 Or, you know, I'm struggling with my relationship 674 00:51:05.620 --> 00:51:06.460 with the Lord. 675 00:51:06.460 --> 00:51:09.860 This is the foundation of actually living life 676 00:51:09.860 --> 00:51:11.300 and relating with other people, 677 00:51:11.300 --> 00:51:13.220 relating with the Lord, et cetera. 678 00:51:13.220 --> 00:51:15.700 It's helping to reestablish a foundation. 679 00:51:15.700 --> 00:51:18.020 So it'll feel like it actually relates 680 00:51:18.020 --> 00:51:19.500 to what you're doing all day. 681 00:51:20.540 --> 00:51:23.260 So anyway, if y'all have any questions 682 00:51:23.260 --> 00:51:26.060 about how to get anywhere, just let me know. 683 00:51:26.060 --> 00:51:29.820 And I will see y'all on Tuesday. 684 00:51:29.820 --> 00:51:31.020 Y'all have a good night.