So this is, um, kind of like think of it as our first fireside chat, because that's what
we do on Sunday nights from nine to 10 Eastern, which is what's not really now I suppose it
would normally be about 40 minutes from now but I'm who normally have, you know, fireside
chats, and where it's just live q amp a liberty run, who hasn't been able to join us but liberty
and Renata and Rita know how this works. So it's just a time for people to be able to ask
questions that have come up. Normally, you know, as they've been trying to apply it,
or, you know, questions about just kind of like the teaching. So okay, like,
what about this? And what about that? So, because we haven't really had time to apply
in the past 24 hours. Well, I don't know what you I have, you know, that does anyone have
any questions that they can start us out with anything.
I have a question. You were just talking about like co creating and
and then in an earlier video, you talked about like,
destiny, like how, how do those kind of work? Like, how do you determine what it is God wants
you to co create? Like, it's just knowing like, it's just it varies per, you know, person,
like, I don't know what is it? So okay, so a couple of different things. So first of all,
so I always teach in context. So let's go back a little bit. So remember that the purpose for
which we exist is relationship with God. So we're created like that. So then creation came along.
And it's to express who it is that we are in the spirit realm. Like, in other words,
what our relationship is with God. In other words, the point to which we've developed our
relationship with God, what would that look like if it could be expressed in the physical realm?
So kind of like, you know, it's, it's, it's not the same thing, but kind of think of it like this,
because it can feel a bit like a stretch. So think of it similar to peep artists saying, okay, well,
you know, if you were a song, what song would you be? Or what would you sound like? Or, you know,
what, if you were a color, what would you be that kind of a thing where you're trying to translate
one idea into a totally different idea? It's that kind of a thing. It's what there are different
realms. There are different dimensions, you know, there's the spirit dimension,
there's physical dimension. So if you were to take something in the spirit dimension and make it
present itself in a, in a dimension that operates according to totally different laws,
how would it translate? And so that's what we're doing. We're taking the invisible God
and we're making him visible. How do we know that? Because we are, because Christ is always our
example. And it says in John one that it says the word became flesh. So we, who are also sons of
God, who are also born of God, no, we're not the head. We're not, you know, firstborn son and all
of that, but we're also born of God. And the fact that we, you know, it says that, you know,
that we're sons of God and therefore born of God. Then if God, if Jesus, who's always our example
of what it is that we're supposed to do as humans, how are we supposed to live this life?
What on earth are we here for? If what he did is he was word that became flesh. That's what we're
called to do. We're called to take who it is that we are in spirit, which is connected to God's
spirit. That's who we are is that point of connection, us and God together. We're supposed
to express who are we in God together, our identity. What does that look like into the
physical realm? What does that look like when you put that into into a body that has to operate
according to length and width and height and laws of science and physics and quantum mechanics and
all of that, how would that express itself? So understand what we're expressing is we're
expressing our relationship with God. That's why we kind of look different and act different
throughout our whole life is because it's just different aspects. It's we're expressing
based on our choices, our decisions, how we talk to other people, who it is that we
we're expressing, how we've, who it is that we are in spirit, how it is that we've developed
our relationship. We're trying to express that into the physical part of what we're expressing
is the fact that we're struggling to express it. And then other aspects are, we really are just,
we really are expressing this is who God and I look like, or this is how God and I are choosing.
express what we look like. We could express ourselves to look like yellow, but you know,
for this phase of life, we're going to express ourselves as red. Why? Because God is a God of
variety. And even though God is always the same, he all, in other words, he's always consistent.
He never like becomes something else. He never is good. And then becomes evil, you know,
or anything like that. He's always the same. He never expresses himself the same way. He's
constantly in, in an undulating expression of himself. Think of it like a river, a river is
always the same, but it never looks the same from one minute to the next because the water is always
is changing and how it's like moving. But we never think that all my word, the water, you know,
the river is one thing in one minute. And then the next minute it's something else. No, it's always
the same. So God's the same way. Therefore us being born of the Lord would do the same thing.
We'd express ourselves, God and us together expressing who it is that we are into the earth.
And so it's going to change. So that's kind of like the, the the foundation on which to answer
your question. So how do we actually do that? What does that look like? Well, you think about,
okay, well, how have God and I developed our relationship thus far? Who do I know him to be?
How do we interact? How is he talking to me these days? What it is that, what is it that I've
learned of him to be not? What have I read about him? How do I, how do I know him? How,
how, when he's talked to me, have I discovered something fascinating about the tone of his voice
or I didn't know how he likes to interact with me or how he likes to tease me or, oh my word,
he's a bit of a jokester and he likes to have fun. And he, and this is how he kind of like plays with
me these days, or he's expanding my, understand my ability to hear him. He now, he now communicates
with me in a totally different way than he used to, but I can still tell that's his voice.
You know, in other words, you know, your relationship with him is changing. You're
also developing your, uh, the, the degree to which, you know, I'm the degree to which you
have faith. You're, you're discovering who it is that he is, because I believe that like the
universe, God is always expanding. I believe that that's what God is, gave us a, gave us a picture
of with the universe that that's always expanding. I believe God was trying is, is, is using that as
a physical picture of the fact that he's always expanding. So if he's always expanding, we're
literally never going to get to the end of knowing him. So the whole point of why we exist is the
development of our relationship with him. And so our point here on earth is to put that development
of relationship, like what we look like in this moment into the earth, express it in a form. So
it can express itself in the way of, uh, the types of friends that we have at that time of our life.
Do we have, are we friends? Should we be friends with this person? Should we allow this person
access to us during this season of our life? You know, should I marry this person? Should I not
marry this person? Should I, you know, who, who are God and I right now should, you know, should we
join a, um, I don't know the worship team at church or should, should I start a business or should I
have a ministry? Should I be a part of somebody else's ministry or should I write a book or
whatever? All of those things are expressing who it is that we are so that more of what exists in
spirit comes into earth. So that earth changes. That's the whole point because when earth interacts
with something from spirit, it's released from frustration. It comes into alignment with spirit
and then it transforms. And so that's what we're doing. We're wanting to, uh, we're, uh, okay. So
let me explain that. Cause I think I, I mixed two different ideas, um, because it's all happening at
the same time. So let me delineate. Um, so what we're doing is we're expressing who it is that
we in God are into the earth. That's that existed before Adam fell, but we have a little, we have an
extra step, an extra thing that's going on. Let me say that an extra thing that's complicating things
after the fall. And that's the fact that Kurt that currently creation is subject to frustration
because of the fall. So this is why we have car wrecks. It's why we have pain. It's why we have,
it's why, um, you know, there's storms that actually wreck havoc. I don't think that storms
are bad. I think that this, that the effect that storms have to create destruction is bad, you know?
And so why do we have all of these things? We have all of those things because creation, which is
waiting for, um, the human beings to tell it what to do has been hearing from human souls for
thousands of years. It's been hearing from billions of humans for thousands of years
that God isn't true. God isn't to believe be believed God. Isn't who he says that he is,
whatever. So it's expressing the fact that it's alone. It's abandoned. You know,
it doesn't know what to do. It's in chaos, right? So what we're.
doing is it hasn't changed our purpose. Our purpose is to express God. But when we express
who it is that God is into creation, what it does is it calms the storm. It removes
the chaos and brings everything into order. So that's what we're struggling with right
now is there's this dissonance between heaven and earth. Earth doesn't, isn't naturally
receiving us and isn't naturally reflecting, um, uh, reflecting the principles by which
the kingdom of God works. It did before Adam fell, but after Adam fell, there's this dissonance
now so that now when we bring it down, cause prior to Adam's fall, it was brought down,
brought down. God walked with Adam and Eve in the garden. They nurtured and take, took
care of the trees, the animals from what we understand, it didn't kill each other. You
know, I mean, there wasn't any destruction, right? But then after the fall, there's all
of this stuff. So, but here's the cool thing. We don't have an added, I know I said the
added complexity, but I just said that to kind of like, um, I don't know, to help kind
of like present or introduce the point, but, but really it's not an added step. Um, the
fact that we now have creation to be overcome and here's why God already overcame. It's
already been done. There's nothing left to do, not even overcoming creation, but creation
is not reflecting the fact that it's been overcome because we have to, um, how do we,
how do we have to actually in coming into agreement with the power of the gospel and
the fact that he overcame, we have to bring it down. We have to, we're the ones who have
to give it instruction. God did everything in the heaven and we have to open the door
in order for it to come in. So, but we don't have to, we don't have to, there's no payment
for sin left that has to be made in order for creation to be set free. It already has
the power, so to speak, to be set free. We just have to open the door and set it free,
but there's, we don't have to fight any battle to free it. We just have to open the door,
but there's a lot of resistance that it's giving to us opening the door. So, but all we have to
do to open the door, honestly, is not fighting a battle. That's what Jesus had to do. All that we
have to do is present the truth of the gospel of the fact that it's already been done. And then
it's like, oh, okay. So that is anyway. So does that, does that make sense? So what it is that
we're doing when we're manifesting something, we're manifesting our relationship with the Lord
word, you know, we're co-creating, that's what it is. It's co-creating with the Lord.
It's bringing something from heaven into earth. And when we do that, then that's what overcomes
creation. And sorry, that's what overcomes the unbelief of creation. That's what sets it free
is we're bringing something from spirit into the earth, something from heaven into earth, Lord,
you know, may it be on earth as it is in heaven. And then like the, as far as like, how do we
know what to do? Well, it's, it's more like, we don't focus on what to do. We focus on,
on our relationship with the Lord and in that, in resting in that and knowing there's nothing
left to do even here on earth. There's no jobs that you have to do. There's no,
um, uh, like in other words that God is requiring of you to, I don't know, in order to please him
and whatever, he's just like, child, I put you there to express me, to, to, and so in what
modality do you and I choose that, that who it is that we are in spirit is to be expressed.
What job do you think that we should take in order to express you and me, because the job
that you take and how you operate in that place and what role you have is going to express you
and I in a very unique way. So, and we're bringing heaven into earth, which modality are we going to
choose to allow to be part of the process of bringing heaven into earth? What aspect of
creation are we going to allow to partner with us to do it, but understand that all of those aspects
of creation that we allow to be part, like the jobs that we have, the churches that we go to,
you know, the, the souls. In other words, the other people that we interact with, they are, um,
uh, there, there are two, there are things that we allow to be part of the process,
but they're not the point. Um, if that, if that makes sense, the point is your relationship with
the Lord, what comes out of your relationship with the Lord naturally. In other words,
all of the things that happen in life are supposed to be what flows out of your relationship.
Who are you in God right now? And therefore based on who you, who you and God are.
right now, what business is created from who you and God are right now.
What job do you take because of who it is that you and God are right now, how much money
do you make and how does that money come to you?
Is based, you know, is based off of who are you and God right now, that kind of a thing.
So what we're relying on is we're not relying on a, we're not focused on all of these milestones
of all these things we need to get to do.
What we're doing is we vote, we focus on our relationship with the Lord because we choose
God, not our lifestyle, not a lifestyle, not a, Oh, I do these things and I've crossed
these milestones and I'm married or I'm not married or I have kids or don't have kids
or, you know, I, I have a particular job or I own my own business or I don't have a ministry.
That's not what it's about.
Now God might, God has his opinion about things that he wants ways that he wants you and he
to express the two of you enter a certain, a ministry or a book or a business, but that
does not define whether or not you are pleased that God is pleased with you.
That's just something that it's the way in which God desires, Hey, when you, I want me
to be shown into the earth and I know how that is best to be done.
And then of course, as we mature, we get to present our ideas of what we think is a good
idea.
You know, I think it would be good, Lord, if we expressed you like this, I'd be, you
know why?
Because I think that this reflects your character.
This reflects who you and I are right now.
So what do you think, you know, and then he might say, it's a great idea, but you're three
years old and you're asking, did you go to Disney world and live there?
And I'm afraid we can't do that.
You know, that's what some of our, some of our things that we present to the Lord in
the spirit, that's what he equates to in the physical.
It's like, that's really nice, but you're three.
So your decision doesn't, or your opinion doesn't weigh as much in the final decision.
But if you're 35, if you've matured to a certain point in your spirit with the Lord, where
you were reflecting more and more of a spirit, your opinion weighs more in the conversation.
That's why God listened to Moses when Moses said, you know, cause God said, you know,
don't, um, uh, you know, Moses stand aside, I'm going to wipe out the Israelites.
And Moses said, please don't do that.
You know, Lord, you, that would, and then he, and he presented, you know, people are
going to think, you know, it's going to kill your reputation, Lord, with other, other groups
of people that are going to think that you've led your people out into the desert.
You know, it's going to hurt your reputation, Lord, please don't do that.
Cause remember what God said?
He said, I am going to rebuild with you, Moses.
I mean, that's a compliment, right?
And most molar, please don't do that.
And it says that God repented.
God listened to Moses and didn't do what God said he was going to do.
He did what Moses suggested.
Why?
Because Moses was reflecting God's character.
He's like, that's a really good idea.
Why?
Because that's exactly what I would do.
Would God also kill the whole group of Israelites and wipe them out?
Absolutely.
But he would also do this.
So he's like, you know what, in this situation, we've co-counseled and you're mature enough
where you're actually reflecting me.
So of the two aspects of me, and then what decisions that I would make, we're going to
go with this one.
So God presented an idea, Moses presented the opposite.
God repented of his idea, which just means that he turned the other way.
And he said, okay, we're going to do this one because Moses had matured enough that
in that co-counsel with the Lord, his decision or his opinion weighed more because he was
reflecting God's character.
So that, that everything that I just said, that's all part of the process of co-creating
with the Lord.
That's what we're doing.
We are, when we're making those decisions and co-counseling with the Lord, regardless
of where we are in our relationship, uh, in our maturity and whether we're three or we're
35, whatever, what we're doing is we are partnering with the Lord to bring something from heaven
into earth.
And the more mature that we are in reflecting the God's character, the more our opinion
weighs in how this thing from heaven or what that from heaven gets manifested.
In other words, what gets created.
So, but our co-creation with him is simply believing is, is, um, is giving his character
access to creation.
That's that co-creating it's, he always presents something, some aspect of himself that he
desires to be made known.
And we have to come into agreement with it by faith.
We have to believe that it's true by faith in order to give it access to come into create
creation, actually create something.
And some of that will like, for instance, the fact that the fact that God is good can,
you know, can express itself in a variety of ways.
So God says, you know, I'm very good.
I provide for you. I protect you. I, whatever. And so I am calling you. I desire the two
of us to start this business. And you might be saying, I don't want to start that business.
That does not sound like fun. You know, and God's like, yes, but that is actually an expression
of my goodness, my provision, my protection, not just for you, but for that, for that neighborhood
or the people who are going to be there. I don't know, whatever this there it's, it's
a way in which me from heaven is finally going to be able to be seen in the earth in a new
way to be able to begin to transform it. And you need to give permission. And then we let
it in and we're like, okay, God, then we'll start that business. So that's that. And so
obeying God, submitting to his will is us co-creating with him of like, okay, then that's
what I'm going to do. So what it is that we're doing is we're not simply, we're not robots
that are where God's got this grand thing of like what it is exactly. He wants to do
more just as obedient servants to just, you know, to do whatever instructions that he
sends out. The obedience is actually co-creating with him. Okay, God, that's what we'll do.
We're doing it together. And what are we doing? What are we co-creating with the Lord? We
are expressing who he is into the earth. We are allowing it to land. That's our role is
allowing what God said and what God wants to land. And so that's creating something.
That's how we co-create the Lord. And I, and I just bring up business because sometimes we
think of it as like, well, a certain amount of money or a car or a need or whatever, but
sometimes it's like something we don't even want. And God's like, I want you to partner with me on
this. Well, we need to know what it is we're doing, especially if we don't want to do it.
Cause then it feels like, well, I'm obeying. I'm not, I'm not co-creating with God. I'm
obeying. I was like, no, that's co-creating. You know, now, if you, now, if you have an attitude
about it and you're not doing it by faith, you're like, fine, God, I'll do what you want me to do.
And you're going through the actions, but it's not, there's no faith in it. That's not co-creating,
but God's like by faith, by relationship, by, by believing me, that is co-creating.
Now you're doing it with me, not just obeying me. Now you're actually, um, now you're co-creating
with me. So there's a measure of authority that you will have that you will not have.
If you're only obeying by, by acting without faith. And also it means that you're, you're
bringing in an aspect of, see if we obey and we don't just have the faith, then there's an aspect
of, of ourselves that we're withholding from it. So we're not allowing, we're not bringing in our
life. We're bringing death because we're not giving it our spirit. So by co-creating meaning
like by accepting, by, by doing what the Lord says by faith in him, like, okay, God, I believe you.
I believe you're good. I know that this isn't something I wanted to do. It wanted to do just
as my natural soul, but Lord, you know, if you give me anything, it means you're good. It means
you're doing this and you love me. It means that you provide for me. It means you protect me. It
means that you're expressing an aspect of, of, you know, your, who it is that you say that you
are and that I receive Lord. Okay. If this is how you want to express that I am all in. If we do
that, we're, we are, Oh shoot. It is my, my thing is dying. So I might, if this dies before we, and
before we finished, I'm going to have to switch to this computer. Thank the Lord to have another
computer. They didn't give me a power source for this one. I don't know. I don't know. Well,
now maybe I do have a power source. Let me, this is crazy. They, they promised me, Oh, Ashley,
this won't that you won't, this won't die. I was like, well, I'm really worried. No,
my husband took the other one. So if it dies, I've got, I've got the Ashley Perez, I'll jump on.
And speaking of that, let me, let me make it the host, because we saw what happens that
poor Tammy always has to be, and make, there we get changes. All right. So now we're saved.
But but anyway, so I don't remember where I locked off, but does, does that make sense?
It does. Thank you. I appreciate it. You're welcome. You can tell when any of y'all and
Rita Renata, anyone can tell you that this is how I answer questions that I don't just answer
the question because I have to, I want to provide the context in which the answer fits, because I
want everyone to own this. I want them to know that this isn't a formula where, Oh my goodness,
you know, I'm now in a, in a real life example, you know, a real life, a real life situation.
And this is not one of the examples that Ashley used. So therefore I don't know how to like plug
and play. No, it's a, I want you to, you know, to, to own this between you and the Lord so that no
matter what you run into, you know, between you and the Lord,
how to handle it. And it doesn't have to be anything that we've
ever talked about. And you know, oh, in this situation, I know
how to shift and arrest, you know, because you understand
like the concept, you're owning this between you and the Lord.
So anyway, just everybody. Does anyone have another question?
I just have a quick question. When you said that if you're not
resting, you're in resistance. Can you hear me? Okay. Yes. Yes,
I can. I just wait
that, uh, that you're if you're not resting, you're in
resistance. And you might even be in resistance subconsciously
not even know it. I think I've been that way and not how what
is that have? I mean, naturally, probably a number of things, but
um, how can I is there levels to the resistance? Like, how? Like,
I don't know, I'm just thinking that I'm really resist, I've
really resisted, like even I've even tried to slow down and
stop. And I think it's helped a little. But I don't know, could
it be something like that spiritual, like, heavier things
in the background that could be resisting? Yeah. Okay. Yeah,
yeah, I can. So that and this is just makes me nervous. So let
me just switch over here really quick.
Okay, so let me
Okay. Okay, can y'all can I hear me? Okay, over here? Yes. Okay,
perfect. So because this is not my computer, let me close this
down. So it doesn't damage anything by
have to eject that. Sorry, just one second. I have somebody
else's computer. So I want to make sure that I treat it.
Very well.
Responder.
But I messed up.
Well, how do I close that?
Well, um, maybe I can do this.
Here it is. Okay, let's eject.
Okay.
Okay. So, um, so the resistance, so you know, that, that think of
it, remember that we're, we're the balloon. So the balloon is,
in other words, that's who it is that we naturally are. That's
the new man. So that's our defaults.
Okay.
We're not operating in our default state. We're, we're in
resistance. Why? Because it's, it's, it's natural. It's easy.
So if we're not doing it, it means that we're doing something
unnatural means that we're actually exerting energy, whether
we know it or not, to not do the natural thing. So that's what I
mean when I say that we're in, we're in actually in an active
state of resistance, even if we don't know it. No, even if we're
not aware of, like, even if we're not stressed or if we're
not anxious, if there's some, if there's some way that we're
not believing God, we're in unrest. And there's some aspect
of energy somewhere. It's not necessarily physical. I'm just
using energy as kind of a word that we can relate to in that
we're exerting to not naturally be ourselves. So really the
resistance is as simple as it's unbelief is it that it's, it's
stopping us from, from moving forward to, you know, to just
naturally float up. And, and as far as like, you know, like,
and, and as far as like how it can evidence manifest itself,
yeah, sometimes we are very aware of, of feeling resistant,
especially if we start to begin to identify the areas of
unbelief. We will feel it when we become very aware of
ourselves, you'll begin to feel the resistance to believe in God
about something. So oftentimes people ask, well, you know,
uh, what, what is it that I'm supposed to have faith got in
God in like, say, for instance, they're in this particular
situation, like, okay, am I I'm in unrest, apparently, you know,
so apparently I'm in resistance. So how do I let go? What am I
supposed to be? Where am I supposed to be instead? What
state am I supposed to be instead?
It's like, well, you're supposed to be believing something about God.
So I don't say that you have to know what it is that you're believing about God,
but in order to let go, but again, simplistically, let's just say you
begin to kind of think about it.
Well, you know, am I like, say for instance, you, you, um, someone loses
their job and then they're, they, they, so their fear is, okay, I need money.
I don't have money.
So what would we relate to God about with that?
That God is not providing for me.
Therefore God is not provider.
He does sometimes to some people, but not all the time and not to me,
you know, or we're, we're questioning his goodness, you know, well, God, God is,
God is provider, but you know, sometimes the way that God provides, it's not
comfortable, it's really hard.
And you know, it just, God's God feels kind of mean, you know, and we don't
want to believe these things about God, but let's just be honest and do.
Um, so we can start feeling resistance when you can start, I'm just giving you
an idea of like how you can start to become aware of it, uh, of what resistance
feels like, is if you think, okay, well then apparently I'm in this situation,
you know, and, and a couple of the things, maybe that I'm not believing
about God or that he's good.
And then he's provider.
So you start trying to think, okay, yeah, but what does God say about himself?
Well, he says that he is provider.
So you go to try to believe that and you're going to find, you're going to find
that you, you can't quite get there and you're finding it really hard, hard to
choose and you're finding it really hard to believe, and there's something in you
that you're going to feel is pulling back.
And so that's something, that's how I began to use the word resistance is I
was struggling so much with the Lord that I was feeling that thing in me that I
would get to the very edge, the very threshold.
And all I had to do was choose.
And I'm like, oh, but I don't want to, I don't want to even choose.
No, I'm supposed to, and I was good thing.
I know that God says that he'll take care of me, but there is a reason
why we don't believe he's good.
There is a reason why we don't believe that he'll provide for us.
And that's what stops us at the final thing.
We can believe him to this extent, but then we finally get here.
I'm like, it's the thing that finally causes us to say it.
That has always caused us to say, no, that's that, that resistance.
Now, as far as like, you know, to go even further about it, you know, into
your question of like, can it have, have layers it can have, you can have
greater strengths of resistance that are built up for different reasons.
Sometimes it's because you have lots and lots and lots and lots and lots
of proof and affirmation that what God said really isn't true.
And you're holding onto that.
It's just really, really weighing me down.
Think of that, a balloon grabbing, holding more and more and more and more
weights, instead of just grabbing a hold of one, it's grabbing a hold of a
lot in that particular area and it weighs it down even more so it, so when
it lets go of one of the weights, it still has all of the other ones
that it's holding on to.
So what do we call that a stronghold?
So you can have, and then with that, you can have, um, small holds, et cetera.
Now they had to have, they had to have a way in how all that works.
Exactly.
I'm not really sure, you know, we can talk about, well, you have to give
them permission, which in a way I believe, but then there's also this
aspect of, well, it happens if it sometimes happens to kids, it happens
to, you know, children, you know, how on earth did that happen?
You know, well, they didn't know what they were doing, you know, whatnot.
I don't really know all the ins and outs, but I just know that generally
speaking, you have to give it, you know, it's authority or the authority to
stay and to not let it go, you know, even when someone's like trying to do
deliverance, you know, on, you know, or you, or they can deliver you.
And then, and then it comes back.
Why?
Because you didn't, you left yourself open again.
Right.
So my point is that there is that the demonic can sometimes in certain
situations play a role in what we would refer to as resistance, but
really the foothold is unbelief.
So it can't, the devil can't touch us in any area in which we're believing the Lord.
And then there are areas in which we're not believing the Lord that quite
honestly, Satan has absolutely no part in.
I mean, it's just like, he's not even in the picture.
This is just us.
It's just us and God.
Right.
And we're just not believing him.
So there's different, uh, uh, degrees to which we can feel the resistance.
We can feel a greater measure of resistance because of the stronghold that
we've created in a particular area of our life, because of the weight and
the significance we've given to the proof that we've seen, we're giving it that
weight, we're giving it that significance.
And then also sometimes, you know, there's, there's demonic strongholds,
et cetera, which we can be deliberative and whatever, but, um, but yeah.
So I recognize the judgment.
that no judgments. Oh, I recognize that I didn't even realize until you said it, that
I was holding judgments against why. Yeah, I think I've said that to God, you know, why
did this happen? Or why did they do this to me? Or, you know, that kind of thing. That's
like you said, it's, it's like making judgments. So I recognize that part I need to release
but, but that's all good. Okay. There's a lot of work to be done. Fascinating thing
about things like judgment, you know, etc, especially judgment towards ourselves. Here's
the Satan cannot have any power over us, unless we give it to him. And what happened with
Eve is the fact that he used Eve's power against her. Eve is the one that was that was above
him in a manner of speaking, you know, she was in God, she couldn't be touched, or I
don't want to, I don't know how that works. But the point is, she couldn't be touched.
That's why he had to get her to stop believing. He couldn't force anything on her. That's
why he was trying to convince her of stuff, because it was only in her getting into it
that would work. So what that's what that's what was so vile about what Satan did is he
vile, he used someone else's and that's what manipulation is. And I don't remember, I don't
think I went into the extent of it here. But I talked about it in another session, I'm
unfortunately won't get to but what what manipulation is, is it does the sin of witchcraft.
Why is it that bad? Why is it that vile? Because you're taking someone's free will and your
and, and ability to empower the like, procreate with the Lord or whatever. And you're getting
them to take that thing and turn it against themselves to destroy themselves. That's why
manipulation is so vile. That's why it's at the center of witchcraft. That's what Satan was doing.
He was getting the fact that Eve gets to live out in existence according to what it is that
she believes about God. So what does he do when he's taking her belief, and he's turning it against
her to destroy so that she will actually self destruct. Satan didn't destroy her. It was it
was him using her power, that whatever that she gets to live out the existence of what she believed
about God is getting her to turn it against herself and destroy yourself because believing
no God isn't who he says that he is. And so and that's what's so awful about it. So that's what's
happening to us when we condemn ourselves, when we shame ourselves. And when we judge ourselves,
we're taking this power, so to speak, and I don't mean power apart from Christ. I'm not talking
about the fact that we're like powerful or gods or something. I just mean that we have this and
that God is taking this power of our book that the power of our belief in him is taking that
we're taking that and we're turning it against ourselves to self destroy. That's what is so vile
about self doubt, you know, is you are destroying yourself. It's similar to like the those I a soul
version of what happens in the body with an autoimmune disease where it thinks that itself
is the problem. And so it turns in on itself and begins to destroy. So that's what that's
the soulish version or the, you know, you know, version that would happen in the soul would be
judging oneself, feeling shame, condemnation, using all because it's turning in and against
when really we're the thing that brings because we're in Christ, we bring life. So anyway,
so it's to be taken very seriously. Yes, we have all of us realize, no, we really do have
permission to let go of that shame and that condemnation because it's self destructive.
Right? Thank you. All right. Okay, well, play more to talk about. I will see you all on Tuesday
for the first rest group, which will basically be like the breakout sessions that we were doing
here. Only we'll be in there for like 40 minutes while everyone just separates. So what it is,
so you just come and discuss what it is that it's been going on in your journey with the Lord,
you know, in your spirit about all of these things, because my teaching is not something
that Oh, this is what Ashley teaches. And let me see what I think about it. And let me try to,
you know, grab ahold of it as a rules and form is new rules and formulas to follow and do that.
That's not what this is about. This is you take these concepts before the Lord, because this is
what I believe I received from the Lord. And this is what it is that I live about. So I'm just
expressing to y'all what it is that I believe and how does I live? But if but you take that for
Lord, like, okay, Lord, was that from you? And is that is, is that from you, Lord, to me personally?
And what do I do with it? What does this? How do you and I Lord, if
What she's saying is true.
That's how you interact with me.
Where do you and I go from here?
How do you, how do I begin to change?
So begin to kind of take these topics
and use them to introduce conversations
between you and the Lord of what is He,
so that you begin to face different aspects of yourself.
You begin to face different aspects
of what you should believe about God.
Just know, just be prepared.
It is a challenging journey.
That's why I do it as a group.
Because it kind of fills the greater support of one another.
It's very challenging because you're finally facing
the aspects of yourself that you didn't want
to believe were there,
or that you thought God would condemn you for,
or you thought would cause God to separate from you.
In other words, that He would stop,
not that you would stop being a Christian,
but that He would stop being pleased with you,
or that you would stop hearing His voice,
you'd stop having this direction,
that you wouldn't fulfill your destiny,
what you were supposed to do,
or all of this stuff.
There's so much fear in there.
We have to face those in order for God to prove to you
by experience that He's not who you thought He was.
He has to prove that He really is who He says that He is,
and it won't happen by logic.
It'll happen because you risk everything,
and finally put yourself very vulnerable,
very vulnerably in front of Him,
and have Him prove to you by finally experiencing,
oh, He really did catch me.
He really is good to me.
He really does love me.
He really does love and accept me,
and talk to me unconditionally,
even though I have all of this stuff.
And then He can finally, once we're vulnerable,
He can take us on this journey of healing,
restoring, and finally maturing.
And then please watch the,
if you go in, you'll notice that into the platform,
if you go, you'll notice that I have,
I replaced all of the sessions, all of those days.
I replaced them with the actual sessions.
So if you click on them,
you'll go in where the session will appear at the top,
and you click on it, and it'll play for you.
I just tested it.
So there's, if you go to the rest retreat,
if you open it up now,
it'll no longer say like January 28th.
It'll say session one, love affair.
You click on that and it'll fill your screen.
You click on the video and whatever.
Also, you'll notice that a lot of,
I'm assuming that y'all will be watching on a computer.
So I'm telling you if you're on the computer,
it'll do this.
On the right hand side, you'll notice the little box.
It'll say, post your comment.
You can comment in there.
You can even ask questions.
Now, what I won't do is I don't answer questions
in between times, in between like the live,
the fireside chats and the rest groups and all of that.
So, but you can post them there
so that you remember what your question is, right?
You can post them there,
and then remind me of the question
during one of the three times during the week
for the next six weeks.
You do realize that's us meeting at least 18 times, right?
Plenty of time to be able to have questions answered.
And then, so you can post questions.
It's kind of like being on a Facebook live
or a Facebook post.
You should just comment in there
and see, you're welcome to do that.
And anyway, so I recommend that you go through,
re-watch anything that you'd like.
Of course, you've got lifetime access to them.
We can watch whenever you want,
but I would watch also the kinship and releasing exercises,
which is the session four that we skipped.
That one's about an hour, 40 minutes.
And that one walks through some practical exercises
about how to begin to govern yourself again,
instead of feeling governed by your soul and your body
and feeling subject to it.
How do you switch that?
What, the session four?
Session four.
Did you say something else with the session four?
Well, it's session for kinship and releasing exercises
is what it's called.
And I said what it was going to do,
it's mostly practical exercises
that will help you switch between feeling governed
to governing your soul and your body.
It'll basically help,
it's tools to help you like regain control of yourself,
to rule, to teach yourself how to be a king.
Like, oh, this is what God intended.
I didn't realize I felt victim to myself.
I thought that I owned myself,
but some of these tools, when you go through them,
you'll realize, oh, wow,
I've actually felt subject to my thoughts
because I didn't know how to control them.
So anyway, so it's stuff like that.
So I recommend doing that.
And then I will see y'all all back on Tuesday night.
You can get the Zoom.
I think you can get the Zoom link on,
like if you click on that date,
you can get the Zoom link.
Oh, one more thing.
I forgot about this.
Okay, so Sunday through Thursday. I kind of, there's something for every single day. So, just think about from Sunday to Thursday you've got something every day or slash every night so we're either meeting from nine to 10 Eastern Standard Time, or on Mondays and
on Wednesdays you posted journey share. So you'll notice that in the discussion tab. It's like a Facebook wall, go in there and you look at past journey shares that people have done go to the Welcome tab that that I mentioned in there under general
Welcome tab that'll explain what a journey share is. In fact, I think if you click on just any of the days that it says journey share I think it explains what a journey share is, and you're just simply sharing, you know where it is that you are right
now. And, you know, what it is that you're thinking what is your processing how you're struggling and in what in what areas that you've seen victory between you and the Lord.
And I recommend scrolling down through a past journey shares that people have given some of them videos. So this this pro platform currently doesn't let you do live videos, but it will let you create a video and then upload it just like you sometimes
create a video and upload it on your Facebook page, if you can't do a lot is let you upload a video.
And as you just upload a video or you do a written post and just look below and see how other people have done it like okay actually I don't understand what you mean.
And if you just scroll through enough of them watching some videos reading some posts you're like, Oh, that's how people are doing it. And, and.
And so the point of that is to help you on your journey articulate your process. I promise you there is a world of difference between the people who articulate it, and the people who don't, and whether or not they shift into how far they shift.
Because it's not that it's a magical tool, I'm telling you what I have worked with people for, for almost three years now, and I'm telling you, there is a huge difference in the people that are vulnerable, not, you don't have to give private information,
but vulnerable about their feelings of struggle the process of the journey and all that your private information that you choose to share totally up to you.
But you do need to be vulnerable and like the process of your, of your journey with the Lord about shifting to rest believing and trusting and that kind of thing.
And there is a world of difference between those that that articulate it, and those in those who don't stop and, and, and do that. And it's simply because it forces you to face between you and the Lord what's going on and not hide from it.
And it also forces you to be vulnerable with other people, so that you can find God. In fact, there was one lady that that was struggling so hard, and she struggled for months trying to get a breakthrough.
And she called me crying she's like actually I cannot get this breakthrough and I've worked, you know, with you for months I've had all this progress but this one area I just can't what's going on and I said, you're not being vulnerable with the Lord
and she's like well I'm trying how do I need to do that I said it's for you.
It's to be vulnerable with the group, post it in a group post the struggle that you're having post that in a group, and I said, and that will allow you to finally get a breakthrough because then it will break something inside you that's trying to hide.
Because you finally opened it up because you know how to open up to other people you'll finally find that place and even knows how to open it up to the Lord. And that's what God needs God needs your vulnerability and she was terrified.
She posted it.
Not every post is this extreme but hers was this extreme this is so extreme she wanted to hide it. She posted it. She woke up the next morning immediately had regret. Why did I do it, but she kept it up.
And she said, and it was like that day I think she got a breakthrough. She'd been struggling for months.
And as soon as she posted it, that next day she posted night and went to bed. That next day, she had a breakthrough she said that is wild. She was so touched by it.
And of course she just bared her soul you know to everybody, she pops on the group the next day on video, the other was written so she can hide behind the words on video she posted the next day.
Okay, everybody. This is what happened. This is why I made that post yesterday. This is why you know how I got to that point, I was, I was hiding and actually said I would finally get this breakthrough that y'all been watching me struggle with for months on the
chat and on the, on the, you know, on the, the end on the stream everything, and she said, actually told me to do it I didn't want to. So she gets on the sheet testifies that that is what finally got her breakthrough.
So, that's why I do this. It's a process it's not busy work, I'm like, I am a process improvement specialist, my specialty is reducing everything to the most simplistic form it can possibly be and still be effective.
when I'm doing this is because it makes all the difference
in the world.
It's a tool you can use to help you be vulnerable
with the Lord so that things can finally change.
This isn't about feeling better.
It's not about simply having a paradigm shift in your mind.
It's about actually finally getting to have a life
transformed by the true power of the gospel.
So anyway, so that's what the journey share is.
So I recommend, you know,
we've got our fireside chats on Sunday,
do a rest share on a journey share on Monday.
That's in the group that all this are listed
as Sunday, Monday, you know, whatever.
And then we meet on to rest group on Tuesday,
do a journey share on Wednesday.
And then we've got the fireside chat on Thursday.
I promise it's not as cumbersome as it sounds
because really all you're doing is this is helping you
live the rest of your life.
The fact that you don't want to go
to the grocery store today, you know,
it actually deals with that.
You know, it deals with the fact that, you know,
you're struggling at work or you're wondering,
well, what should I do for work?
Or, you know, I'm struggling with my relationship
with the Lord.
This is the foundation of actually living life
and relating with other people,
relating with the Lord, et cetera.
It's helping to reestablish a foundation.
So it'll feel like it actually relates
to what you're doing all day.
So anyway, if y'all have any questions
about how to get anywhere, just let me know.
And I will see y'all on Tuesday.
Y'all have a good night.