Can I do it? There we go. Yeah, I'm just telling her that, I mean, I work around, as Rita knows,
from having been through it last fall slash, you know, the last part of last year, I work around
the big holidays, like Thanksgiving, Christmas, stuff like that. But otherwise, especially over,
if it's going to be over six weeks, I just, I just have to pick my times and then just tell
everybody who this is what we're doing, if you want to join us during this particular program,
this is what we got. So because otherwise, it's just too many, it's because what I'm having to
work around already is four time zones, just within the contiguous United States, and then
not to mention the international. So I threw in an international rest group this time as well.
So I often meet with them an additional time at three o'clock p.m., you know, on Tuesday. And so
when it just kind of hits on on holidays, and just like, you know what, we're just going to call it good.
I suppose that if it is just like vitally important to someone that they just,
that they have their Super Bowl party tonight, they can do that. But I was like, you know,
the rest of us, we're just going to meet as usual. Yeah, all of my and my parties in there,
we've also been celebrating my husband's birthday. And then it's not today, but it was the
celebration today, because everybody was all together. And also, so my husband is half Cuban.
So they have Noche Buena, Noche Buena, Noche Buena. I don't remember, Noche Buena, maybe.
It always sounds like Noche Buena when they say it, but I bet you it's Noche Buena. Anyway,
which is basically their Christmas. It happens on Christmas Eve, it's a really big dinner.
And it's always bigger than Christmas. And it's the night before. Well, so it's such a big deal
that because we were all able to be together this Christmas, because we were with my family,
they waited to celebrate until we could all be together. So we were all together. And we had a
whole, I don't know how many people we had, 11, 10 people over something like that all together.
And so we celebrated that and then Super Bowl. So it was a lot of kinds of stuff. So anyway,
but yeah, we've been having a good time, been eating really well, and just having some deep
theological, or not deep theological, but deep like personal relationship with God,
discussions and stuff. So anyway, so I've been enjoying everybody's journey shares.
Love it. And let's see, I was, I watched, saw Renata, and I was sad that I had not been able
to get at the Fireside Chat, the last one that we did so that she could have known
that we had been talking about her and been so excited and motivated and inspired by the fact
that she was jumping on live. Because she talked in her, if y'all have seen it, her most recent
journey share, I think it's the most recent, that she talked about, I think it was,
yep, she posted it yesterday, maybe, or two days ago, about the fact that she had done her very
next live, the one that she'd been nervous about, and basically kind of response from it. And she
said that even one person had approached her personally, and meaning like in person, and said
that, hey, you know, can you explain to me more about this experience that you've had of shifting
into rest, and how the lady began to, after she heard Renata's side, she began to talk about like,
well, I've learned this from psychology about, you know, and then, and I don't remember,
she was asking like, Renata's like perspective on it, or whatever, but Renata was sharing the
fact that she's noticed the same thing that some of us have noticed that, you know, it's,
that it is something that most people just don't understand, which is why whenever people
contact me about, about, you know, being mentored into shifting into rest, I always greatly
emphasize the group version, as opposed to just doing a series of private sessions with me,
because the community aspect is so important. Just this thing of like, knowing that, okay,
I'm not the only one who's going through this. I've got other people that I can talk to,
and that I can hear from, I can hear their stories, that understand the same language,
they've got the same heart, they've got the same excitement, they've got the same desire to pursue
the Lord, and something that we can't seem to find elsewhere. Yes, it does exist elsewhere,
obviously, but we, we, we, the world, including a lot of the church is just filled with focusing
so much on principles, and on knowledge, and learning more, and even learning more about God,
it's all about the knowledge. And, and we can feel very
condemned and ashamed and frightened by what it is we don't know. And then as Renata experienced
that people can feel very offended if they feel that that you are expressing something that they
can't understand and therefore they can feel they can feel offended that you're looking down on them
because that's how they're taking it remember is that like oh well are you saying you're saying
that you're smarter because you know something I don't and you can hear that they're still caught
up in this whole idea that that they and that they're judged by what it is that they know
and what it is that they don't and then they're judging you accordingly as well and so they're
feeling like hey you're judging me because I don't know something you're going no no that's
the whole point it's it's like it doesn't matter but you know what it is you think that you know
or you don't know that's not it at all we can be free from that so many ways she was experiencing
that and talking about struggle of like you know wanting to share things with other people
that we that we've just learned people have to have it where the lord just has to have revealed
that that truth to them as reveal our need for it kind of like you know the lord has to reveal
to us our need of the savior the lord has to reveal to us our need for rest because otherwise
we we can have this we can have this dissatisfaction we can have a frustration but we don't know
what it is connected to and then the world and even the church is very ready to tell you all
kinds of things that they think that you need more of in your life that will that will fill
that need that'll make you feel better but we've all pursued all those things and we knew that it
didn't work and that's why we're here we're like well i've tried it all and it doesn't work but
everyone else when i continue to ask them hey what should i do they keep all saying the exact same
thing i've tried it all and and it just and it doesn't satisfy there there's something in us
that knows there's more there has to be more um but anyway but uh a lot of people are still
pursuing all those other things and feeling like they either are or should be getting satisfaction
from them so when we talk to other people that rest most people just don't understand
you know most spouses you know even don't understand when people um join the rest intensive
a lot of people um but most people struggle with the fact that their spouses are sometimes um
very supportive you know especially if you're changing then your spouse is very supportive
because they love the change that they're seeing in you they love that you're finding peace and joy
that you've been looking for and they notice uh they notice the changes but they can't understand
what you're saying you know and that can feel lonely and it can feel frustrating because you
desire to share this amazing thing that has touched you so much and then but they're either
uninterested or they're getting frustrated because they just don't understand so they
start shutting down so and that's just and that's about you know let alone any of these other other
people that we run into so anyway she was very sweetly yeah and opening up and expressing that
uh-huh the um i feel now this is just me i'm not blaming anybody i take full responsibility but i
feel like that's what led me to striving is that i was uh listening to a lot of people and they
always like you need to do this this and that and i was trying so hard to do everything that i was
supposed to do you know for deliverance for healing and there was always something and and oh no you
have that so you need to do this and and i think that doing all that following all those they're in
the bible so they're good right but that's what led me into striving so yeah me trying to do it
and do it and do it and and um it's it's when i stopped here when i heard you for the first time
i was like oh my god you know this is all that i've been going through and nobody has ever spoke
about this like you have yeah i've never heard anybody you know and it was everything that i was
feeling you know and nobody i have never heard anybody and so it was just to me it was just like
wow mind-blowing that um and god had spoken to me about rest and when the in the back in the old
testament with the israelites when he told them that that they did they couldn't enter in and the
holy spirit kept dropping that verse in me that they couldn't enter in because of the unbelief
because of the rest they couldn't enter rest so they couldn't enter in the
on a slam because they had that unbelief. But then it mentioned
some versions and do rest. They say they couldn't enter the
rest. And I was like, how do you do that? I know it's an
unbelief, but how do you do that? And nobody, I couldn't I
couldn't get that answer until I heard you. So I'm very good.
Good. Yeah, sorry. I'm hot. I have to take that off. Yeah. And
I know it. It's anyway, yeah, it's it is very freeing. When,
when we hear it, that I had, you know, you talking about the
fact that you're saying, you know, well, I've just never
heard this before. And, and, and then also the fact that I was
saying, you know, well, the Lord just has to kind of open it up
that open, openness that to be able to see it in here, it has
to open our spiritual eyes and ears under to be able to hear
and to understand. Whenever I post stuff, for instance, on my
personal page, I post stuff about what it is that I believe
I post stuff about the rest. And I put, you know, I introduce
people or, you know, invite people to join the rest
intensive or whatever. And I'll start talking about what it is
that I believe, you know, about like, for instance, spiritual
embody or whatever, I very rarely get any. I'm very rarely
challenged. And which I appreciate a very rarely
challenged on my on my page. And I know that a lot of people
don't experience that a lot of people, you know, are really
challenged, you know, on their Facebook pages. And I'm like,
I'm sorry, I really don't experience much of that. And for
which I've been very grateful, but every now and then I am. And
I had this man the other time challenged me on it. I don't
know, informatics. And, in fact, we don't even have any
mutual friends on Facebook that he found me apparently
apparently, liked what it is that I had to say until I
finally said something that he's like, wait a minute. I'm just
not so sure about that. And, and so I shut it down really
quickly, because I mean, I wasn't mean or anything, but I
just, I just, you know, answer just questions like, well, this
sounds, you know, wrong, and I'm like, well, actually, you know,
this is that. And he wasn't gonna let it go. And he's like,
Well, no, you're wrong. But you know, I'm telling this, you
know, I just kind of like stopped right there, because
it's like, I'm just very uninterested in being
challenged. Because the thing is that all I'm doing is I am
putting a voice out there of Hey, everyone, this is what I
believe, just to simply attract the people who that resonates
with, if it doesn't resonate with them, they can just go
somewhere else. I'm really not interested on my private page,
to defend and whatever. Some people have that in that
interest, that heart to debate and to and to like, I don't
know, just open, I don't know, maybe with prayer and, and
trying with logic and being real good apologist to try to
convince somebody of something I'm like, I have no desire to
try. It's just, this is what I believe if you resonate with it,
you know, just hear that there's somebody else that who
believes like you, and then we can talk, right. So, but it's
something that most people don't understand. And most people just
just don't can't hear what you're saying. And so I just had
to learn and so I find it really interesting. So you'll notice
that a lot of people will go out and they'll either try to teach
this, when they when they after they go through the rest
intensive program, they'll try to find someone they'll try to
like, some people are coaches, and we'll go through this
program. And then they'll, they'll want to start
incorporate, incorporating some of the stuff that they learned
about rest, you know, in their in their coaching groups, you
know, start teaching other people about how they can be
healed, you know, through this. And, and then there are other
people who just go and they just talk about it to their spouses,
or they try to share it with their best friend or their small
group or their or whatever. And, or, you know, like, like a
Renata or not, it's felt like she was supposed to in her
journey to the Lord, she felt like she was supposed to maybe
start overcoming some of this stuff by her fear of man, by
having to make these lives and everybody has their own journey
with the Lord. And that's what she felt like she was supposed
to do. But we all discovered the same thing. And that's the fact
that other people just can't hear it unless the Lord has
opened the eyes of their, their spirit and the ears of their
spirit to be able to receive it and understand. So they,
sometimes people get surprised at, at how little response,
especially favorable response that they get when they start
talking about it. I even had one coach of actually a couple of
coaches. And they were that joined together after they'd
gone through actually, they were in person, they were in person
at this conference, you know, that y'all watch that for over
that during the rest.
retreat, they were live, in person, and three people were two of them were coaches, and they were live there and they were just so amazed, and so transformed in their relationship award by what it is that they learned and went through and everything
that they decided to do a their, their own.
How do you put it, they already had a big following. And so they decided to do a special.
Like, I don't know what teaching or whatever specifically about rest and about what it is that they learned.
And I could tell that they were and I don't remember how I found this out but I could tell that they were very surprised at how little response that they got how few people wanted to join.
And these are people that already have a following they already like the you know these people already like these coaches they already follow them and everything and I'm talking like, I don't know, like, more, a lot more than, than follow me,
like a lot. And then you had to those people so I mean they had that they had themselves a following.
And they had very little positive response because people can't understand.
They just can't get it so anyway, just a play doesn't mean that we shouldn't share it with you know with people or whatever but just so that you don't for two things one don't get discouraged.
And if you and by feeling like alone, and then also feel very honored and very grateful that God has opened your eyes to this, to understand, to be aware of the need, and then to have been shown by God, what will satisfy that need that he would
move you that he would favor you by moving you into greater freedom. So this struggle that we have of like all of what it is that we're encountering right now the struggle the pain the, the, you know, crossing certain thresholds of letting certain things go dying to
going through grief you know all of that is hard as it is, it is a, it is, you're in a place of very high favor with the Lord that he's like, I want to invite you into more love and freedom and I have shown you now how to do that, as opposed to wanting
more and more freedom and then you struggling to know how to make the transition.
Anyway, just encourage you and all that I was just thinking about all this because I had watched for an audit thing recently, and, and she had just expressed you know that, you know, a bit of the disheartening in the person's response, especially that the person
And so what I always do because she had asked this so I'll, I'll, I'll insert the first question, and an answer here to start us off so you'll be thinking of what questions you'll have, but this is something that she had mentioned that she said oh I thought about
that maybe mission is on a fireside chat. So I'll answer it in this one real quick and birdwatch.
But she was wondering what do you do when people respond when people get offended or people respond, or when you're trying to share this with other people and they just don't understand.
For one thing, I just kind of lobbed things out there of what it is, for one thing I, I own it myself.
And we so so own it is in like this isn't some concept that you've learned, and you're passing along this really cool thing that you heard about.
First of all, own it between you and the Lord. And then that's all you'll need. Like okay, I'm satisfied. This is enough. Sure, you know, do I want more do I want more for them absolutely but this is that this is enough God has given me piece and parcel of
for me to share, you know, between he and I, and so I love that and I'm so grateful. And then just live from that owning it like okay, then you know what conversations just naturally come out, as opposed to having an agenda.
And then when you interact with someone of, of wanting to convince them of something, because that never goes good.
So I always tell people that when you interact with people, especially like when I, when I go move into like the program don't like the rest lifestyle which is moving like even deeper into learning to operate even deeper measures of rest of various areas of life
relationship stuff or whatever. One of the things I talked about is it's very important to not have an agenda when you interact with another human being to not be trying to convince them of something or to get them to feel a particular way, meaning like even positive things like
I want them to know this about between them and the Lord I want them to feel loved. I want them to feel this I want them to know this.
That usually leads to subconscious manipulation on our part.
And we don't intend to because we have a very positive heart towards them.
We desire greater love and freedom for them.
But what we have a tendency to do out of that, you know, wonderful, you know, love and desiring and freedom for them.
We end up trying to convince them.
We end up trying to push and then there ends up becoming a bit of desperateness that can affect and manipulate the delivery.
So it's important that when we're talking to people about like, say, for instance, rest, I only talk to people that I feel the Lord wants me to.
And I usually and this is what I do for a living.
Understand this is like what some people talk about, like in their job.
This is my job.
And, you know, you always want to you want to always want to make sure that people know what you need to do just in case somebody out there needs what it is that you have.
I very, very, very, very, very, very, very rarely tell anybody what I do unless they ask.
Like, we could be going around the room and everybody's just saying, oh, I do this.
I do this.
Somebody could come up to me and introduce themselves.
And I'm like, oh, yeah, I do this.
Great.
Yeah.
Well, my name's Ashley and I live here.
And I don't even tell them what it is that I do until they ask.
Now, every now and then, every now and I will every now.
But that's very, very rare.
So I mean, like, my point is, like, I don't even tell other people what it is that I do.
And so it's that kind of thing.
It's like just allow the Lord to and the Holy Spirit to do stuff without you instead of having an agenda of I want them to know this because I care about them.
No, you're the Lord's given to him in him.
And then I just I usually will usually let them pull questions and information out of me because usually I find that they that they don't really want to know and they don't understand or they just get offended or they think that they already know.
And, oh, I know. Isn't it great to know about the Lord's rest and I look at their life and I'm going, we're not talking.
Anyway, so that's what I do.
I don't usually have conversations, honestly, with people about about what it means to operate in the Lord's rest.
We're talking like friends of mine.
I don't talk to most people about what it is that I believe and whatever.
And, and these are friends or family, a lot of family, my, my, a lot of my close family doesn't even know what it is that I believe and what it is that I teach, you know, and, and not and I don't hide it.
They don't ask. They're not, they're not particularly interested right.
So anyway, that helps that helps me avoid situations of people being offended with me, because I don't, I don't share it unless the Lord tells me to, but then if I do find myself in a situation in which you know there's more and more coming out and people are asking
questions, whatever they they're, you can tell that especially people challenge me on it.
They don't actually want to know.
They're just wanting to challenge there's something about themselves that they're wanting to make to feel secure. So, I'm very interested in those conversations so I just kind of just let the thing go because I know that it's not really there, even though they're asking
questions, they're not actually interested in, in the truth of what it is that I believe or in the, or in the actual truth.
There's some other agenda that they have.
So I just kind of let that go but I would say that the biggest thing without even knowing well do they have an agenda, are they insecure.
The, the big thing that I always just keep in mind is to not have an agenda to try to convince somebody that what I believe is true, or that it's right.
I just simply own it for myself, and just thoroughly enjoy the fact that this is how I live life. And I am so satisfied, and I am just so content.
And so, sure, if somebody wants to ask a question, sure, I'll tell them.
whatever. And I just, and I, and if I, and if the message of what it is that I believe that I've received from the Lord meaning like me personally between me and the Lord and that you personally have received between you and your work.
If it's, if it's a message of freedom.
So then they have that message as well. So I let them experience freedom in being with me, freedom to believe very different from me and freedom to be loved.
you know, by me, while they're believing differently, without me finding them to be a challenge
that I need to contend with.
If I want them to experience when they're with me, the truth of what it is that I speak,
even without me speaking it, so in other words, I don't even even if I'm not teaching them
about rest, even if I'm talking about rest, even if I'm not even bringing up the subject
about freedom, because they haven't asked, I want them when they're with me to always
experience the truth of rest and freedom, because that's how I choose to receive them,
because that's how I believe that the world works.
And that's how I believe that reality actually is.
And then I extend that into if we are at already are having conversations about rest and freedom
and what it is that I believe and what the Lord and the fact that that we're unified
with the Lord, that we're actually discussing the message itself, I want to always make
sure that, you know, I really, again, I keep going back to this, that I'm owning it.
This is really what I believe it's not a concept, I actually live this thing out, I actually
believe I actually consider it to be reality.
And I've chosen that it's so much reality that I actually put my money where my mouth
is.
And I live like it.
And so therefore, I'm going to see them like that, too.
Why?
Because I believe that if I'm in freedom, that they're in freedom, I just know it, and
they may not.
But it doesn't mean that they don't get to receive the benefits of being in freedom.
So I just kind of, you know, treat them with love and freedom and allow them to believe
what it is that they believe in, if they're challenging me or whatever, I don't make a
big deal about the fact that what they and I believe is different, or make a big deal
about or even say anything about mine being right.
I find something about them to affirm something about what it is that they believe or the
fact that they have something that they so strongly believe in.
You know, I affirm those things, I find something about them to build up again, it cannot be
with an agenda.
So what I do is I don't think about, okay, how can I make them feel?
How do I want them to feel?
What is it that I want them to think what I want them to know, I can't do that.
For instance, if I think that, oh, this person is very insecure, or doesn't think very much
of themselves, or I don't know, it's very insecure, what it is they believe, well, then
I think, well, you know, is it how does God see them?
In reality, not not what does God say about them, and therefore some intellectual concept?
No, no, no.
What it is that I believe that who God really is, what I know about God as a being in my
relationship with him, and how he interacts with me, how does that being that I'm in personal
intimate relationship with him?
How does he see them?
And how does he interact with them?
Well, he sees them as this amazing person.
And he loves them.
He loves their enthusiasm.
He loves their faith.
I'm seeing them in through the eyes of the spirit.
And when I see them through the eyes of the spirit, that I just I, I interact with them
like that I interact with, I, I see that, oh, my goodness, they have so much to give.
And my lens, you know, even though I don't agree with what it is that they believe, I
can tell that God's excited about how enthusiastic that they are about the truth.
Even though I don't disagree that they've actually found the truth.
They're very, it's very important to them.
And that God values, you know, so that kind of thing, he values the their desire to pursue,
you know, truth and all of that.
And so I affirm those things.
But I don't affirm them as in like, try to condense them, that I believe that.
I actually have to believe it.
And I actually have to give it.
So if I want someone to feel love, I have to love them.
I can't try to convince them that they're loved.
That just won't work.
I if I want something for someone else, I'm the one who has to give it.
It requires me.
That's why Jesus said, hey, look, if someone doesn't have a coat, give them yours.
Don't send them off somewhere where they can get one.
He said, you give yours.
So in other words, you have it.
And now you don't because you gave it to them.
Now, no, we're not talking about lack or anything like that.
Oh, now I have it.
Now I don't remember.
There's always abundance in the kingdom.
And I'm trying to make a point because it says, you know, if you have, say, for instance,
you have two coats and they have none, God says, give them a coat.
So it's the same thing about like love or, you know, or if they're insecure or, you know,
if they don't feel affirmed, we can't send them off to the Bible and say, hey, by the way, God
says, you know, God says this and oh, you can go read here.
And hey, if you read this book and if you whatever, don't send.
them off. You know, wishing them well, telling them that you'll pray for them. God says, no,
you give it to them. If I love them, and you're me, in other words, you're my body,
I'm your head, you're my body, you love them. Don't send them off to me and send them away
without it. Just like they come to you, let them leave you change, let them leave you having
received what it is that they needed. So anyway, so she had asked, and in her, in her journey,
sure, you know, I could answer that question. So there we go. Hopefully,
so someone thought of a question, something come up this past week, or
Okay, I have a question. Yeah. Um, I, I remember when you talked about how our
spirit is, the purpose is to be in relationship, our soul, our soul, or this mind, all of that
is the purpose is to choose, and our flesh is to create, right. And so I know our emotions are
a part of like that soul part of us. Like, I guess in this whole rest thing,
how do they, I just, you know, how you have moments where you're like, you let your negative emotions
run you, right, instead of like operating out of the spirit. But, and I know like a purpose of them
can be like, sometimes you're like, okay, like when you feel triggered, or you feel something,
you'd be like, Oh, okay, that's a signal that something is going on wrong. You know what I mean?
Like, okay, that's a sign. So I guess maybe if you could speak more to like, I just feel like,
like, I just feel like, okay, I've had some definitely like victory. So I don't feel like
my emotions are running me, which is like a blessing. I'm like, thank you, Lord. But if they
if it ever feels like, okay, I'm back in that space where my emotions are just like, you know
what I mean? Like, I've started journaling just all of my all of my stuff. Thank you, Karen. Thank
you all. Like, it was just great. It's like, the good, the bad, the ugly, just, just put it all
out there. And it's been so great. But I just kind of I don't know, maybe I just kind of want to know
like, if you can just tell me more about like, what is their purpose? Because I don't want to
be subject to the negative ones. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. So it's important, like you said
to realize that it's just the thermometer. Okay, well, first of all, before we realized it's the
thermometer, it's important to remember that your emotions are good. So even anger, all of that good
stuff is weird as it is to think about even jealousy. So I know that that sounds really weird.
But here's how I can say that God is a jealous God. And so if he can be jealous, there's nothing
wrong with it, right? So now, yes, God tells us not to be jealous, you know, of other people and
whatever. But that, but my point, understand is the emotion itself is not bad. So, so don't
condemn yourself for the fact that you feel something. Don't think, oh, my word, this feeling
is bad. It's an enemy, I have to get rid of this thing. You know, like, oh, that anger, don't,
don't villainize the actual feeling and the actual emotion. So that is extremely important.
And, and remember why is that it's for the same reason that I said, hey, remember that no matter
you know, how you even go through this process of learning about rest, just accept yourself,
wherever it is that you are on the journey and stop getting like, upset yourself thinking, well,
I shouldn't be here, I should be further along to that. Stop resisting and just let it be. And then
you'll go through it faster. It's the same idea with these emotions. It's like the, that's why I
say that the important thing to first remember is to not bring shame and condemnation on yourself
and villainize the actual feeling or villainize yourself for the fact that you are feeling
the negative thing right now. So that's most important because then you won't,
you're, because remember that you're going to be, if you villainize something,
you're actually empowering it. I know that that sounds really weird, but that we are,
we, we think of it like this very powerful entity that we're having to combat. And that's going to
simply just, it's just going to empower it in our lives. We actually are giving it some kind of like
a, like a credibility.
of being like this entity that, like I said, that we're just, that is important enough
and powerful enough that it's an actual combatant, you know, it's like, oh my goodness, it's
requiring anything of us.
Absolutely not.
It doesn't have enough power to require anything of us.
We're the ones who are in control, but we're the ones who are ruling.
And so anyway, that's one of the reasons why it's important to not think of it as something
bad, because then we tend to subconsciously empower it.
And so we make it stronger and make it harder to get through it, get past it, let it go,
all of that good stuff.
But the other thing is it's hard to let something go that you think is bad.
So it'll be easier to pass if you don't think of it as, if you, I don't know, kind of like
honor it, understand that it has a right, it's a precious thing, it's a precious aspect
of you that has a right to have a voice.
God doesn't squelch it, push it like a bug, it's just awful, it's just a peon and it's
a nothing and it's whatever he, everything that he created is significant and should
be honored.
And so we should do the same thing with our emotions, we should treat them with respect,
we should treat them with honor, not more respect, more honor than the rest of us.
I'm just saying it as its own entity, I know I said it can be damaging to think of it like
an entity, but just go with me here, I'm trying to express it as best as I can in my limited
English.
It's good to just, it needs to, we need to honor every aspect of ourselves, including
the emotions.
So anyway, all of those things are, will be helpful in not allowing ourselves and giving
in to being ruled by the negative emotions, we'll be now viewing them differently, we'll
now no longer be viewing them as some way that indicates that we should be ashamed or
that we should feel condemnation, that we should feel bad, we no longer will be villainizing
them as if, oh my word, the anger is bad, or it's saying something bad about me, you
know, you just start releasing all of that stuff.
And it's, and it suddenly diffuses and neutralizes the situation tremendously.
But in addition to that, you're still gonna, you're still gonna battle, even if you do
all of that stuff, you're still going to battle, you know, the fact that, oh, well, my goodness,
yeah, but I'm still angry.
Why?
Because it's a thermometer.
It's telling you that there's something it is that you're actually believing about God
that isn't true.
Usually, God says that there is such a thing as righteous anger, that if we're not talking
about that, and if we're talking about like the majority of the time in which we find
ourselves angry, usually because we're feeling afraid, we're feeling like we have someone
interacted with us, you know, unjustly, and we didn't deserve that we went revenge or
whatever.
But usually, in situations like that, we're still going to be battling it.
Why?
Because we have we have an underlying belief that's prompting the actual feeling.
So that's what it is that we need to be focusing on.
It's like what pain is pain in our physical body is simply telling us that something's
wrong, but the pain itself isn't bad, and it shouldn't be villainized.
We don't want to shoot the messenger.
So anyway, all of that being said, as far as the negative emotions, remember that when
you're feeling it, what caused the negative emotions and what triggered the negative emotions
that's always there, it's just that it brought you were brought into a particular situation
in which the negative in which that which is already there was triggered and brought
to the surface.
I think always a good thing because when it's brought to the surface, it now has the opportunity
to be let go.
If it's under the surface, and you're not feeling those feelings, then sometimes it's
hard to let something go.
And so always, as great as it is, think of like those times in which you're feeling negative
feelings as actually being a good thing and a good opportunity that you are being provided
of, oh, my goodness, so I'm always battling this, not the feeling, but what the feeling
is being triggered by, I'm always battling this, I'm always, I'm always being enslaved
to this, it's always limiting me, whether or not I'm aware of it, it's always is, but
now that I'm feeling it, now's my opportunity to be free from it and to let it go.
So you can start kind of weird thinking about it, but you can start being excited about
those situations, because you are now being given opportunity to be freer in the next
moment than you have been for the previous 30 plus years.
It's like now is the time.
So anyway, if that's what you choose, if that's the choice that you choose to make in that
moment, you can do that.
But it is important to let all of those emotions come up and to fully feel them.
So when you have those negative emotions, it's important to allow yourself to fully
feel them.
Always do it though with the Lord, because if you're not doing it with the Lord, we have
a tendency to feed on them.
We have a tendency to mold them around and around, like, yes, I am angry, and I'm like,
yeah, this is why I'm angry.
And we think that, oh, I'm fully feeling them.
No, we're feeding on it.
We're just getting really upset about this thing.
But if you actually be angry with God, like what we've talked about before, you actually
allow yourself, okay, I'm really angry.
And I'm just using anger as an example of an emotion.
I'm really angry.
Now I'm going to go into the presence of God like that, meaning like you're actually going
to bring it to him.
You're going to walk into the throne room like that, okay, good God, I'm really mad.
Because remember, what do you do?
Where do you go when you are like really upset about something?
You go to where you feel it's safe to be while you're like that.
So trust that God is the safe environment for you to be in while you're angry.
Consider him a safe environment when you are the most, yeah, the most vulnerable, but also
when you are feeling the most vulnerable because you're feeling the worst about yourself, like
I really don't feel good.
So when you feel really bad, when you feel really bad about yourself, or you're just
angry, and so therefore you just feel bad because you're like, well, I don't like feeling
anger and this is awful, and I'm just mad, and it feels awful.
I'd much rather feel love than anger.
You're not feeling good.
Always make a habit of going into the presence of God and saying, okay, God, all right, God,
you're a safe place.
Here I am.
And I'm just angry.
Don't throw the things at him because that'll just, that'll exacerbate the problem, and
don't just justify yourself to the Lord.
Don't do those kinds of things because if you justify yourself to the Lord, all that
that's doing is exceeding it, but just simply go to the Lord, consider it to be a safe environment,
and again, in that safe environment, there we go, so in that safe environment, again,
you just kind of face those emotions like, okay, I am really, it's almost like you're
just taking a look at yourself, and you're just, and you're not trying to escape the
fact that you feel this way.
You're just honest with God about how it is that you feel.
God, I would actually, you know, I'm really wanting to hurt that person right now.
You're, see, understand, you're not feeding right now, like, oh my word, I just really
want to hurt this person, and you're also not throwing in an accusation against the
Lord, like, Lord, this is just how I feel, and you know, you were there protecting me,
so you're not doing either one of those, but you are being honest about it.
You're just like, you know, I'm, how is it actually that I'm feeling?
You know what, I'm actually feeling it to the point that I want to hurt them, and so
you're like, oh, wow, it's almost like this realization or this understanding of yourself,
and just a second, I wanted to see, I wrote something down in my, the other day that I
was, when I was doing this training the past few days, because I was struggling in an environment
of healing that focuses on inner healing, I was having some stuff being triggered, and
so I'm like, okay, I know to let these emotions come up and out, and, oh my goodness, oh,
and so I wrote something down that I thought, oh, that is such a fascinating way to kind
of see that in, in a moment when I'm, when I'm presenting my feelings before the Lord.
This is like a really powerful way to deal with the feelings before the Lord, because
I had to do it, and, and I'm not seeing it.
I wrote it somewhere.
I'm going to have to find it, but one of the things that basically the essence of it, if
I remember correctly, was just that honesty of it, of just, because it's almost like if
you realize that you don't have to run away from the feeling itself, it gives you a safety
to just.
Sit with the feeling and really truly be honest about it because you don't have to worry about like not looking at it
Because it's gonna say something about you and you're not supposed to feel that way
Anyway, so you keep like trying to not look at it, but you're feeling it
Anyway, it gives it gives you you are giving yourself permission to not be afraid of it
and for you to not be afraid because it's going to say something about you or
As soon as you feel it then God's gonna God's gonna condemn you for it
He's gonna punish you or whatever if you realize no God's gonna let you sit with it. You're like, okay, you're here and you're angry
Okay
Let's sit with the anger for a bit
And you think about the anger and you talk about the anger you talk about how you're feeling
Does that you just kind of it almost allows you to observe it like a third person?
Because you're and I noticed that I could be honest with the Lord
Because I realized that my that the truth that my truth of how I was feeling
He wasn't threatened by and he wasn't gonna make me get rid of it
He's just like no
Like well then Lord, honestly, this is how I feel like, okay, there we go
and how else do you feel and what do you because
He wasn't he knew that that that's not how he identified me
And so he's like actually I'm not afraid of it so we don't have to get rid of it right now
It's just sit for a second
Let's just talk about so with soon as I realized that he wasn't threatened by it and I didn't have to be threatened
By what's gonna God's gonna do as soon as I am really honest about
How deep this anger goes, you know if there was no threat from him or me
When I was honest about it, I'm like, okay
Then it
Neutralized the power of my feelings and then they could go and I could I could choose to release them because I was now ruling
over myself and I didn't have to be afraid at the effects of my feel and that the effects
That my feelings were going to have on me the effects of how my feelings were going to affect my relationship with God
Or how he was going to you respond to me
That I could they they they were just something that was there and so we could just talk about this thing that
dare
It changed everything and it also meant that I was able to process through things faster
And then I'm like, okay. Yeah, I really don't want this anymore
But when I felt threatened by it when I've had a hard time looking at it when I had a hard time being honest with
Myself
About it when I felt that I wasn't allowed to be angry and again
I'm just using anger as an example of any emotion would you be taking forward?
When I thought that I couldn't be angry that I wanted to avoid God because I wanted to allow myself the luxury
The very dirty luxury of sitting with it as long as I could before I had to let it go
But if I just was allowed to bring that into the presence of God and be angry in the presence of God
And feel it then I allow it then it was no longer a dirty pleasure that I wanted
I'm like, okay. Well then if this is all that it is
It's almost like it made it really powerless and it made it very uninteresting all of a sudden. I was like, okay
I can have it. So it's almost like the forbidden fruit if it's forbidden. We really want it, but if it's not forbidden
It's really fun. We don't want it anymore
And that's what I found with my feelings if I no longer considered them forbidden in the presence of God
Then they could became very uninteresting very fast
Because I realized in the presence of God that they really had no power and couldn't give me anything that I wanted
God is like hey you want that thing you can have it
What would just sit with it together you tell me all about it?
And because I could have it I was like, well, this is boring now, I want to see more
You know, I now felt I was now became much more aware of how I was enslaved by it
Because it no longer as like a forbidden fruit can give me something that I'm not that I'm being denied
If I wasn't being denied it I now had it and could tell it could no longer give me anything
You're just neutralizing its power
So, I know I talked a lot, but you know me I talk in lots of context so like paint a full picture
So did that help? It did. Thank you so much. Okay, you're welcome
I've talked, Rita will tell you, I've talked a lot about negative emotions, especially even in this past
Rest intensive and so in fact, I did a little mini teaching on it
And so I'll try to find that and post that as well. So it'll be right under the one that was
how to process grief and rest.
I'll post it right under there.
All right, so does anyone have anything else?
Do we even have time left?
Oh, wow, we have like five minutes.
Does anyone have anything?
I thought-
I have a question if we have time.
Oh, yeah, hey, Karen.
Yeah.
Hi, how are you doing?
Good, how are you?
I'm pretty good, just resting a little
and the Super Bowl's on, yeah, I've got it on silent
but I'm peeking at it a little bit.
Yes, well, lucky you.
Okay, are my Chiefs winning?
They're winning by, no, they, oh, no.
They just, Philadelphia just tied it up just now
as we, and you asked-
They've been doing that.
They've all been going back and forth and back and forth.
It's tied and there's five minutes, 15 seconds left, so.
Come on, Chiefs, you can do it.
Right, go for them.
Yeah, I didn't watch it until a while ago
but now I've got it on with no volume, okay.
So, well, my question is, do you have any tips on,
you know, trying to, when you did the exercise,
I think it's in the first rest meeting,
asking the Father or the Lord or Holy Spirit to come
and just be with you and help be vulnerable
and let his love in and, you know, any tips on that?
Because like the first night I did it,
it's just like he came and rest and almost paralyzed me,
you know, just with his love in a good way.
And that was the night we did the intensive.
And he sometimes, just by his grace,
he'll just do that sometimes.
I can be sitting at home, I can be at a service,
I can be in my bed and he'll just come,
which is so, I think it's just so special.
And I think that's what he's probably doing at that time.
And he used to do it to me at the altar
when I was first new at church.
But, and then I've tried to do it a few other nights
and kind of had a little bit of a hard time.
Now I did have a little bit,
I was having a hard time sleeping again up early
this morning, so I did it again early this morning.
And I feel like, and I'm trying to engage father now
because I realized that's who I've had a problem with.
I've not.
That's people do, yeah.
So I felt like I did have a little bit
of a breakthrough this morning.
I felt like father started talking to me
and just kind of saying, hey, I'm here.
I'm always here.
And you know, I'm with you.
And so I had a little bit of a breakthrough.
Good.
So I just wanted to know if you had any other tips
or is just anything.
Yeah.
Yes.
So it would be to let God go.
So you know how we have to let everything go.
We even have to let God go and we can't hold
because what we'll do is we'll confuse a seeking after him,
a desperation or whatever as Godly.
When a lot of times what we do is we end up accusing him
for not coming, accusing him for not showing up.
And so what I've learned to do is should just release
a God, any expectations of holding any expectations
over God's head of how I want him to appear,
what I want from him.
I want to see him.
I want to experience him.
I want to whatever.
It's not that we can't want it.
What I'm saying is we need to stop like holding it
against him that something hasn't happened
or in desperation trying to pull emotionally
something from him.
And then just simply open ourselves up to God.
I want you and I'm asking you to show up
and to reveal your, to show up to me in my life,
whether Lord that be visually or a feeling
or the, or I don't know, hearing something
or smelling something or an experience or no experience
or just show up according to who it is that you are
and how you want to express yourself to me.
So God, I'm just watching for you.
I'm not pulling something from you.
Like I want to see you.
I want to feel you.
I want to experience you.
It's just, you know, God, I choose, I open myself up to you.
And then I just watch expectantly
for however you express yourself.
And the expression could be very surprising
when it could be the fact that we are,
we're sitting there, you know, closing our eyes.
eyes and wanting to see the Lord. And we don't see him. We even
close our eyes, you know, perfectly picture our room. We
asked Jesus to appear, you know, wherever he is in the room, and
he didn't appear. And we're like, well, Lord, that's about
as easy as I can make it. And he still didn't do it, you know. So
you just kind of release God whatsoever, just say, God, I
just enjoy you. And I, I am, and I'm enjoying you by choice. I'm
enjoying choosing the fact that you are real and that you are
who you say that you are. And I don't even fully know who that
is. But whatever that is, Lord, I'm choosing that unknown. And
I just ask that you can that you show up in my life. And then
all of a sudden, you get the doorbell rings, you go to the
doorbell, and you interact with somebody, it could be a postman
or whatever. That's God showing up in a very unique way. You
know, as weird as that sounds, you the there's, you know, you
might get it, you got it, you got a package from someone, you
got, and I don't know, you got to interact with, with the
postman to see an aspect of someone that God actually
thought of before the world began. And then you got to
finally meet him. I mean, and you just and so what I did is I
began to just receive the Lord wherever it is that I went in
whatever it was that I was experiencing. And then God began
to show up more and more. And I began to receive more and more
of his goodness in my life, my life began to change, I began to
have so many more opportunities. And God began to like, bring in
finances in very unique ways and all because I wasn't putting any
stipulations on how he should show up or how I was to
experience him or whatever. And there's nothing wrong with
asking for specific types of experiences, because I did that
I asked Sam, I asked to hear him, I asked to see him in my
dreams, I asked him to do whatever. But I don't hold it
against him. If it doesn't happen, I'm just expecting him
to show up in my life. And so I'm always I'm always receiving
what happens as him being good. And as him being loving, and as
him being whatever, then, because we're now removing those
stipulations off, it's removing the resistance to us being able
to see him to us being able to experience because sometimes the
reason why we're not experiencing, experiencing him
or seeing him or whatever, is because we have a subconscious
expectation of or a desperation. And that that really strong
desire actually can be resistance. We think it's a
pulling it towards us as if it's a good thing. But actually
anything that requires any kind of sweat or strife, even an
emotional one, is resistance. So remember that God wants to
show up for you more than you want him to. So our job is to
not resist. Our job is to believe is to simply receive is
to just watch for to anticipate, to expect, but not to, to expect
as in to anticipate, but not to, to draw or to pull or to hold
against or, or whatever. Does that make sense? Okay. Okay.
Yeah, quick question, if you don't mind. Yeah. Do you have
any other tips of probably the kind of the same thing letting
go about resting at night? I told you I've been having
problems. Oh, yeah.
Getting Yeah. Yes. So one of the things now some of these things
are going to be very practical are going to sound very
practical. But I do mean then other practical things that
you're taking your body through, but as an expression of what
you're choosing in your soul. So what you do is you choose the
value of yourself. Like you're important. You in other words,
you're important, your significance to God, you are
valuable in the way that he says that you are. Remember that God
is who he says that he is to the degree he says he is that. And
we're called to choose that we are who he says that we are, to
the degree he says that we're that. So make yourself, you
know, meaning like yourself, you and God, I don't mean you by
yourself, you know, that you and God are the most valuable thing
to yourself at night. We're supposed to do this all day,
every day, but specifically at night. And then I would choose
this a routine of things that you really enjoy doing before
bed. And I don't know if you want to give yourself an hour, I
don't know if you want to give yourself 30 minutes, whatever it
is, but there's a certain routine that we do, you know,
just to get ready for bed. And we all don't like doing it. We
have to do right, we have to take a shower, we have to brush
our teeth, we have to do whatever, right? Well, if you
play some music that that has that has a tendency to be kind
of slow, like, say, for instance, soaking music or
whatever, it'll provide a particular atmosphere.
that you'll then end up like following in your actions like say for instance if it's a very slow
cadence then it'll usually cause you to brush your teeth slower so you start doing things that
are slower and while you're doing them this is where the whole choosing yourself comes in while
you're doing them you put yourself in the moment you don't try to solve any problems about work or
your relationship with god or try to trust and have faith in him about anything you just enjoy
the moment receive appreciate god by appreciating the moment that you're in because he created the
moments of your life to work the way that they do that when you brush your teeth what's happening
you know you know with the with the toothpaste with your toothbrush and with how you're the
fact that your arm moves the way that it does and the fact that all the physics are working the way
that they do god's the one who created it like that so you just fully enjoying the relaxation
of the moment instead of being instead of being frustrated with it like this is really annoying
that i have to spend two minutes of my day doing this very dull thing you know and i just do it
out of habit but my goodness i'd rather be doing something else with my time you know instead of
seeing it as kind of like this enemy that because again that's a bit of resistance fully fully
appreciate you know the moment just enjoy it choose that that moment is valuable for simply
what it is don't make it to be any more important or anything different than just what the heck it
is right and the same thing with the shower the same thing with getting ready create a bit of
routine because there's a bit of for a few reasons one thing there's a bit of um and find value in
the routine like enjoy yourself and love on yourself in the routine you're brushing your
teeth because you love you you're enjoying you then go pick go get your pajamas because
you know i i like pajamas i i could have gotten anything else but these are the pajamas that i
have if by the way this is a much longer discussion but if you don't like your pajamas
if they're very uninteresting to you go buy pajamas that bring you joy because you're worth it
enjoy your life enjoy the mundane little things those are supposed to be special
those are supposed to be interesting god's like i want you to enjoy me i created amazing things
and you got those from walmart why why didn't you get these other things you know because you like
these why don't you get these you know so know that you're worth investing in that your moments
are important because you are what makes them important you're the one going through the moment
so you're not it's you enjoying yourself as you do it that'll begin to relax you because
you're pulling away from from all of these things that are pulling on you and you're choosing to cut
away so that's really what you're doing with the routine is you're trying to cut away from and cut
off everything else that wants to try to pull on you it doesn't have a right to you you have you
are more valuable than all of those things and um so i would do you know stuff like that um and then
just just have a particular time that you cut everything off of like okay there's no more
problem solving for tomorrow there's no more um there's no more problem solving of like even like
trying to have faith in god and trying to believe in and trying to whatever you know there's no more
growth right now you know consciously there's always subconscious growth you're still shifting
you know there's no more anything no god doesn't need any more of you today he wants you to enjoy
he wants to be able to enjoy you and he wants you to enjoy him so just enjoy him don't try to learn
don't try to grow don't try to expand don't try to be better for tomorrow there's plenty of time
tomorrow to grow so if you start doing all of that uh that that will help a lot i promise um
and then um one more thing that i thought of like in choosing yourself especially if you give yourself
like an hour or whatever pick your favorite some of your absolute hands-down favorite things to do
and to do those during that time as long as they're not stimulating like if you have like a
guilty pleasure books that you enjoy reading i think guilty pleasure is in like i don't know about
you but i always feel a little like i'm i love reading fiction books but i always feel like it's
a waste of time it's not but i feel like it is so if you do the like some of your favorite things
at night during that time you'll look forward to it you'll look forward to going to bed you'll
you'll anticipate this because the entire time of getting ready for bed and then finally going to
sleep is all about you it's not about anything you have to accomplish it's not about anything
better you have to be for the word you know it's not any you know you're not trying to make your
life better and to and to like i said solving problems or solving the financial problems or
figuring anything out that's all that's all for some other time
Um, have faith, have enough faith in God.
If he says that you're valuable, that that's what you need to spend time on and that God
will go and then entrust everything else that has to be solved into God's hands, as opposed
to thinking that you have to carry it.
If God says that you don't have to carry it, actually act on it and stop carrying it.
And so put it aside.
And so anyway, that's, that's what I would do.
And like I said, that has to, that has to go into your laying down as well.
It's not like, okay, well I can just spend time on myself while I'm enjoying my routine.
But once I actually put my head on the pillow, turn the light out, well then my mind starts
going, no, I've very rarely had a difficult time.
I'm going to sleep in my life and I didn't understand other people that did, and, but
I didn't know what I was doing until I got older when I got older and I started hearing
other people that had a hard time going to sleep.
I started figuring, I started hearing why they did, I finally realized, oh, I'm not
doing that.
See, they're all thinking, they're all trying to problem solve.
Well, when I went to bed, as much of a driver is that I am in life and as much of a problem
solver, that was literally my career.
I literally was hired to solve quote unquote impossible problems.
And I always had this thing of like, okay, if I've decided it's time to go to bed, that
I can't do anything.
I'm going to bed.
I'm not eating.
I'm not driving.
I'm going to bed.
So why on earth do I think if I'm not doing anything else, that I'm going to start thinking?
I'm like, no, that's something I have to do.
And that's, you can't think and sleep at the same time, so to speak.
I mean, like think consciously.
So we're just like, this is what I've decided.
If I decide to eat, then I'm going to eat.
But if I've decided I'm going to sleep, that's what I'm doing.
So if I did, if I'm, if I'm thinking that I'm not sleeping, so why on earth am I lying
down with the lights off?
It's like, what have I decided to do right now?
I've decided to go to sleep.
So I, I've always kind of thought of it as a one, as a one thing I'm doing, I'm, I'm
sleeping.
So therefore there's no thinking.
So there's no problem solving.
So that, so I very rarely had an issue with that, but I realized that that's not what
other people did.
But anyway, just definitely helpful for you.
You remember, choose yourself from the time that you start your routine at night, all
the way through going to bed before, you know, and then including until you get up the next
morning at your alarm.
Even if you wake up in the middle of the night, it's not a time to problem solve your
time.
Here we go.
The chiefs just, we were about to win.
The chiefs just scored three and there's only 11 seconds left.
They, they took it down and ran the time out.
I'm sorry.
Sorry.
I had to tell you.
I appreciate it.
Thank you.
I don't think I'm resisting sleeping.
And so even, even when I wake up, what did you say to do if you wake up?
Because I'm saying, yeah, same thing.
It's like, remember that it's still your, it's still you, you're the most important
thing.
Not everything that has to be solved.
And that has not everyone that has to be solved and something that you have to do something
that's being required of you.
Something that's being pulled on from you.
It's just, it's you right now.
You get to sleep.
You get to do nothing but sleep.
You know, in other words, think of it as selfish, but without the negative part of selfishness.
Yeah.
Think of yourself as valuable.
Yeah.
That's good.
Cause sometimes I'll lay there and then I get this, it's, it's a cortisol issue too.
I've stayed up so late when I worked evenings for a long time, it's like I flipped my cortisol.
So if I go past a certain time, it kicks back in.
So I don't really want to be awake.
And I've done all the things and I've got on nice music, but next thing, you know, I'm,
I'm awake and that's my issue to kind of, so, but these are helpful.
These are, these are helpful and I'm, I'm trusting God he's helping me.
And I've got, I'm working with a naturopathic doctor and taking some cortisol stuff.
I'm trusting God he's, he's helping me with this, but I just thought your tips would be
helpful.
Good.
And the other thing would be, if you put something by the side of your bed, so if something comes
up now, this may not be an issue of thinking of something, but if it does, if it comes
up in the middle of the night, always, if you have something by your bed, then if you're
thinking about something, you're like, Oh my goodness, I'm not supposed to be thinking
about that.
Go and, and write it, just, just write down the thought to get it out of your head.
So you can remember it tomorrow and then go back to sleep.
That'll help a lot as well because it's you're, you're taking it out of your head and you're
putting it somewhere where you're not having to be subconsciously responsible to try to
remember it tomorrow.
But that's just another little thing.
Yeah.
Okay.
I think we're down to eight seconds.
I think they're just, I think they've about.
I want it here, we hope.
Let's see what happens real quick.
Well, I'll watch it together if I curiously do care.
They're hugging, I think it's over.
Oh, okay, yeah, they've decided that,
okay, let's just call it,
which I've never understood that rule.
I mean, neither.
Like, how do they know?
How do they know when they can call it?
How do they know when it's not too close?
Yeah, they said, they won, the Chiefs won!
Woo-hoo!
Yay!
They won, that's exciting.
That's exciting.
If some of y'all are Philadelphia fans, I'm so sorry.
Yeah.
For me to be excited and throw my excitement
in anybody's face, I just, I'm very excited.
My homes went to the college that I,
that my family's like hometown college.
So I grew up, I actually would watch him play live
when he was in college.
So it was always fun.
It was like, oh my word,
that kid is so much fun to watch.
And all of a sudden he gets famous around the nation
and then the Chiefs pick him up.
So our entire hometown is now Chiefs fans
because they have my home.
He just had fireworks go off here at my,
someone's shooting off fireworks here.
Yeah, cause y'all are close to,
y'all are close to Kansas City, yeah.
Couple hours away, but you know,
the other thing is, I don't know if y'all know this,
but there's prophecies.
Bob Jones had prophecies about when the Chiefs
won a certain thing,
that that's when the glory was really gonna fall.
True, yeah, he did, yeah.
So exciting about, that's pretty exciting, you know?
Yeah.
Yeah, that element kind of helps.
Yeah.
So.
Okay, everybody, it's good to be with y'all
on such an exciting night.
Loved all of y'all's Journey Seers.
If y'all have any more, you know, for this week,
I will look forward to those.
You're welcome, and I will post the thing soon
about the negative emotions, Tammy.
So.
Good to see you all.
And when is this one posted?
Is it posted right away?
No, I have to wait for it to process.
So as soon as the thing is over,
it has to process before it lets me download it.
So we'll probably get it uploaded tomorrow.
Okay.
All right.
Thank you.
Okay, see y'all later, bye.
Shalom, thank you all.
Shalom.
Thank you, what was in the chat too?
How do I say what's in the chat?
Everybody's comments were helpful.
Well, you just, you touch the screen
and then right below, you'll see participants
or chat or something, click on that,
and then you'll see it.
There's a, there's a way to save it, but,
well, you know what?
I'm just gonna, I'm just gonna screenshot it.
That's a good idea.
I did, okay.
All right.
Okay, have a good night, Karen.
Thank you.
Bye.