Hey, how are you doing?
Good.
How are you?
Doing good.
What do you have for us today?
I have from the American pie.
All of a sudden, I was on a very long client call.
If the client is going through a lot,
I can make myself an omelet and then I'm on another call.
It's a busy day.
How are you?
Thank you.
We're maintaining.
Are they having fun?
Having daddy home all the time?
They like it.
I have a book for them to read.
They're enjoying it.
That's fun.
We'll be talking about this stuff for years.
I don't know why I had so much trouble with that link.
It kept doing weird things.
I'm going to show you an example.
It will change the default setting.
It will automatically post things in order of most recent.
Recent activity or whatever.
If someone is commenting on an old post,
it will put that one up to the top.
I don't know how to do that.
Do you want to see the most recent post?
I constantly have to go in there and click most recent post.
I don't know how to set that to the default.
I'll know that now.
Right after I posted that,
I posted it in the announcements post.
It lists all of the stuff.
People can click on that for the private consultations.
I also posted that permanent Zoom link.
Next week,
y'all can always check that out.
I posted it in the announcements post.
I posted it in the Zoom link.
Next week,
y'all can get it out.
I edited it.
Under group sessions.
I added it in the middle.
I didn't add it to the end.
If you have any questions,
let me know.
You can let me go close that.
Hi,
Steph.
Are we the only two on here?
Cheryl said she won't make it tonight.
I didn't know it was Cheryl's birthday.
That's so cool.
I feel bad.
I didn't know it was Cheryl's birthday.
I don't know how I would know that.
Is it on Facebook?
I think Facebook told on her this morning.
I forgot about it.
I didn't know it was her birthday.
I'm going to text Cheryl for her birthday today.
Don't you love Siri?
I just tell my virtual assistant to do
whatever it is I need her to do.
So,
tonight,
did we finish our conversation
before I jumped over to explain the post?
I think so.
I don't think we left anything hanging.
There was
. . .
I was just, I think I was just saying that, you know, we're gonna look back and remember all of these memories really fondly, you know, when the kids are older and just like, oh, you remember, remember when, during the coronavirus, how did y'all manage or what did y'all do?
. . .
. .
.
Well, you know, I had a lot of time to wrap my meetings and read a book. It's the kind of things that you tell when the boyfriend comes over.
Yeah.
I'm to the point today though I told Dan I wanted to take a toy out in the yard and shoot it. So, certain toys.
I don't blame you. You had a battery.
And you think that may need to lose the battery tonight. Yeah.
Yep, exactly. Yeah. And in fact it's really cute. I heard, I heard a woman say once that she, she would work all day long, and then go pick up her son who was like a year old or something like that go pick up her son from daycare or babysitter who was washing them, then she would go back to work to an empty office.
And she would take her son and she put him out on the floor with all of this with with it with a blanket and all of his toys. And she said she would take the batteries out of all of his toys, so that he would be occupied longer to figure out why it wasn't working.
She's hilarious.
Because you go to toy to figure out. Okay, why isn't this working. Let me try something else. Let me get it from a different direction. It's you said it kept him occupied.
I know I wouldn't work here.
Emma would be after us in five minutes. Will you fix this. Will you fix this.
Correct. That's why it only works when you're like one year old, you know, you know, because then you're still trying to figure it out by the end of age. She knows what's what she knows how to
Battery. She knows how to ask for help to get it fixed. So, hey, Gary.
Hey everyone finally got on here. I was having some major difficulties.
I couldn't open it on my computer at the my phone wasn't working, but we are here. I just
Intellectually blessed with the ability to figure out things electronically, but I'm here.
Yeah.
Yeah, so I was telling them that this is the permanent zoom link now and it's now in the announcements.
Post as well. So if you just go to the announcements post, you know where everything else is posted that's pinned at the top. And if you open it up.
Information there so that we all know that the same thing. So I've never done a recurring meeting before. So anyway, I it somehow came to mind that actually set up a permanent like a zoom link.
Yeah, yeah, for sure.
Anyway, because all my clients are we set a different time every time. And based on what works on their schedule. So I've never made always said they always just go into Calendly and set their time. So I don't even usually set up zoom calls and then send
Anyway, just me.
So this whole I just wanted to spend on answering questions that anybody had. And then we can just go from there. So in other words, it's the exact same thing that I do in the private session just
Excuse me, just as a group so that everybody can hear each other's each other's questions. So does anyone have something that they want to start with, based off of I don't know how many of you have questions.
In the lives that you've been able to watch, whether you watch them live or watch them after the fact, but and did any of them raise any questions that anybody wanted to ask anything that was just raised.
This is what always happens when you get women together. No, no one's going to be the one to go first. Oh no, I'll let her go first.
Well, I'll share something
Yes, please do.
I just finished listening to the one you posted last night.
And it was so good.
Good. I'm like, this is so good. I'm telling you, girlfriend. You know, you talked about. We're always looking for that person or that key. I'm like, but actually
It's harder than all of us are
No, it was
It was so good.
So I've been today, my youngest son is 17.
He has special needs and he has had these stomach issues
off and on for years.
And in the past, when it first started,
it was only when we'd go on road trips in the summer.
So I thought it was like car sickness.
And then it just got more and more frequent.
And then last year we started going to this natural doctor
and he found he had parasites.
And so we cleared those up
and then it was another different parasite.
And then it was something,
it was just like one thing after another.
And then last week I took him
and oh, he has an overgrowth of yeast.
And so I'm like, okay, so we'll do this.
And I really struggle with taking him
because I really believe that healing is ours.
We are healed.
And so, but sometimes the Lord uses earthly things.
So I was kind of glad I took him
because he also found out
what was causing his acne that he's had.
And I was like, okay.
And it was really simple.
It was like a dietary, really simple dietary shift.
And so I started giving him this stuff.
And after a few days, he starts having trouble again.
So I called the doctor today and he said,
I can't do anything else for him.
Take him to a medical doctor
because this guy's a natural doctor.
And I was like, right.
And so I texted all my friends
that I know that know how to pray,
as a son of God, not the old begging prayers.
And I texted him and I said, great for Jonathan
because he couldn't eat anything.
He can't drink a drop of anything or eat.
And he has no fever.
He has no other symptoms.
It's just his stomach will not receive anything.
And so, that's kind of concerning
because all day long, I'm looking at him going,
you need to drink something.
And so this evening, right after I finished listening,
and I told him, I said, you know what?
I prayed over him.
I said, you're healed.
You're a son of God, you're healed.
And I told him to say that over himself.
And so he's in there, he's like, father,
I'm a son of God, I'm healed.
And so, and my friends were praying.
And then I was listening to your message
and I realized that I was trying to make it happen, trying.
And when you remind, you were just summarizing
at the end saying, stop trying,
just release it and receive,
then you'll automatically receive,
like that's the old man trying to make something happen
when we already have it.
And so, it's just, I was like, oh yeah.
And you said, if it's hard, stop doing it.
And I was like, always feel like I'm trying,
like I'm trying to believe, I'm trying to decree,
I'm trying to declare, I'm trying to,
you know, and it's just like trying to make it be so,
and I know it already is.
And so then I just, I was like, wait a minute, stop trying.
And I don't even remember what I said to him,
but I said something like,
oh, that's your old man that's sick.
You're healed.
And it was so easy and instantly,
I was able to start thanking God,
really thanking him, not thanking him in the old way
where you're like, thanking him,
hoping that if you thank him enough, it'll be so,
but just like, I don't have to do anything.
I don't have to do anything.
I just have to release my effort
and my unbelief that it's not already done
and just release it.
And he like really shifted.
He got up, he was, I mean,
this boy has been sitting for three days.
For two days, he sat in his room on the edge of his bed
with his hands folded, which we never pray like that.
So it's weird, but he has hands folded and his head down.
And every time I peeked in there, he'd just say,
I'm praying and he's fine.
You know, he wasn't depressed,
kind of had a smile on his face.
I was like, all right, Lord,
I guess you're keeping him busy.
Well, today he sat on the couch watching movies all day.
He did not get off that couch until I just released it.
And I said, you know what?
I just released all the fear I have, all the worry,
all the anxiety that I'm not praying right,
that my prayers don't work,
that my son is sick and I don't know what's gonna happen.
And, you know, this has been going on forever.
And I just released it all.
I was like, no, that's the old man.
And I just received what is mine, which is healing.
And, you know, he got up and he wanted to eat.
which was a first and he walked over the table and he was gonna eat and then he saw the food
and he was like no i'm like that's okay you know it's fine you're fine whenever you want to eat
you can eat but um you know whether or not he is completely healed today or not
i felt such a difference and so much weight lift off of me because as a mom you feel like
okay i'm going to be negligent if i don't take this child to the doctor but if i take him to
the doctor he's going to give me all this stuff to put in his body that's not good for him and
i know it and i've tried everything else that's natural and nothing's working and i'm just like
i don't know what to do i'm like i'm the mom and i don't know what to do and so it was just
incredibly freeing i was like wow now i get get it what it is to live from rest i get it ashley
it's like i didn't realize i was trying i know so i know it was amazing yeah it's all we know
is to try and so when there's something else that we learn about the lord we think yeah and that he
says oh this is yours okay now i've got to try to get it stop stop trying stop trying yeah i know
it's our nature and we naturally receive it it's very effortless yeah me and my girlfriend used
for years we've always talked about we know we have this but how do we access it what's the key
i know and that's and it's that thinking that is getting in the way of us being able to receive it
the belief that we have to access it we don't have to access it it'll it's already come and
it's already coming it when god's a good father we just asked him for it so he sent it he sent
it in his word he sent it out of his mouth he probably did it 2 000 years ago and it's just
hanging right there above us and we have it but we won't let it in so we have to release the other
thing that isn't of the old man that doesn't uh that isn't natural for us anymore and then it just
naturally flips down into us and we're like oh wow that was easy yes because it's our nature
but yeah it all we understand is everything according to the old the old man so i know
it's so effortless so i was so glad when you said that that the first post that i did
night before last was um was uh and you didn't use this word but what i heard was it was frustrating
and i knew exactly because that's how i have felt so many times because i'm like okay so
i don't have to so i have to uh don't i don't have to do anything but now i have to do something
so i don't have to do anything oh wow isn't that nice and then someone will drop a bomb like okay
you need to believe you're like well dead gum and i gotta do something but it's in our old paradigm
of how we understand that we're supposed to believe we think we're supposed to try to believe
that's that old man that's the only way that it understands belief that's the only way it
understands how to believe but the new nature naturally is belief so believing according to
new nature means a very different thing but if we use that word we can use that word in this
paradigm or in this paradigm and if we're only hearing it in this paradigm well then we can't
receive that someone is actually speaking freedom so i loved how you that you expressed that because
that's exactly i i heard myself in that i was like lord that is how i have felt for years amy is
talking how i have felt for years so it gave me the opportunity to think okay how do i word it in
a different way that it'll finally get through so it forced me to kind of like think okay let's use
a different word and then the whole thing of like the whole trying thing and it's like oh it's the
trying to believe and that the only end is so i was really really grateful that that um you were
willing to jump in and say hey look ashley appreciate the effort but it didn't work
because that's just normal so good that that's how we all um and if i don't know that that's what
people are thinking and struggling with well then all i know is to just keep doing the same
so keep doing more of the same so i needed to change how i worded it because it didn't change
what i was saying it changed how i worded it so i really appreciate that because you're just
voicing what we've all felt all these years hey holly
so anyway thank you very much for that like i said there's not a question or a frustration
or a thought that someone could come up with that i have
so everything that everybody is
Asked everything, you know, Carrie, you were talking about Sony and everything. I've asked that question. All of these questions I've asked. I've asked all of you already.
Anyway, yeah, I appreciate that. And for those of y'all who don't know, Amy and I met and a few weeks ago, there was supposed to be a conference. She was hosting a conference and unfortunately
I was saying
And then, um, but she lives just, um, we found out later. She said, Well, where do you live? Because we're thinking, Oh, well, DFW is very large.
I told her where I live. And she's interested. Oh my word. I live a mile from you as the crow flies. It's not even that far. It's not even that far.
And DFW is huge. Is it 15 million people? It's huge. It's very, very large. It's very large. It's millions.
Fair. So, so in other words, I know Jonathan. He's really got an extremely sensitive spirit to the word and
He's got an extremely sensitive spirit to the word and
Does it's really special his 18th birthday coming up. Oh, and somebody wanted me to do something with them. By the way, Amy.
Wanted me to do something with them today client and mine was talking to me about something. And I said, Well, I'm afraid I can't do it until after April the 28th because I have a birthday party.
Jonathan through 18 on the 28th. I don't know if the birthday parties on the 28th or somewhere around there. Don't have to let me know what it is. I can make sure not schedule anything around it, but
Did
So did anyone else have a have another question or something else that's been going on this week that you wanted to like like
I love the post that y'all been doing about the shifts that you feel that you were even, you know, some of the frustration frustration or the shipping part of the process. So don't condemn yourself for it because that's normal. Remember, taking off the training wheel transitioning
That it's gonna you you feel like you that you're operating worse.
Than you did under the train wheels. So that's normal. That's part of the process. A lot intended for it to look like. Yeah. And anyway, it's
Not fun doesn't feel good, but there's no need to think that something's out of place and it shouldn't be like this. This is normal.
And if someone has a question that you've asked in the
In the group that I haven't answered yet, then you know it like in a comment or that I haven't clarified that you have to clarify remember that there's a time for that.
I'll be right back.
And while y'all are thinking I didn't get any water.
But I am right here so I can hear anybody
Everybody's
Yes.
For
There was one thing that you said in the video where you use the whiteboard about
And train to rest. I loved that visual
Let me find
Is
Not sure I'm going to be able to find it without my like real Bible, which is downstairs and
I think it's Hebrews for but I'm having trouble finding it. But basically what
The author of Hebrews is saying is like
The work of Christ is finished. And so now the only work that we have is to is to enter into his rest and so
That is what I have been doing for the last 10 years since I've been
More under like living in the tree of life instead of the tree of the knowledge of God.
good and evil is putting forth effort and work towards rest.
And what I mean by that is not striving,
but what you were talking about in the video,
I think was even like a little bit of just like,
quit everything.
And scripturally, I was more to the understanding,
sorry, that quit everything except trying to rest.
Can you do that a little bit more?
And what like trying sort of looks like,
because when I was coming out from under works and the law,
I was a lot of like your story, Ashley,
I so wish we would have kept in touch the last 10 years
because I'm like, to have a friend,
to walk through that with would have been so helpful
and relieving.
But I remember being like, how do I rest God?
Just tell me what to do, God, and I'll do it.
And then being like, no, that's not it.
You know, like, you're just your old pattern of thinking
of like, I will work as hard as I can to, you know, rest.
Sorry, I don't know how to rest.
And how many months it took me to receive God's word
to rest and my prayer really just became,
okay, Lord, show me how to rest in this moment.
Or like, okay, I have these 10 things
that I'm responsible for that need to get done.
And so I just receive, I bless my time
and I just receive whatever timeline you can get it,
help me get this done in whatever break I need,
whatever comes through.
And he will always, he will always do that.
So that is what I'm thinking of as working to rest
and I'm like, can you clarify,
what does that look like for you?
Does that still sound like striving to you?
Because that is, to be honest,
that is still an area where I feel some stress.
And I'm not sure if it's because I'm raising
little wild Indians that get it,
that like, I have no, that interrupt me all the time.
And so I'm like, you know,
which is every young mom's thing,
like you're focused and then, you know,
jolted out of any train of thought.
But, well, I'm not sure if I'm like trying to refocus.
I don't know.
I think in all of this, I'm like,
do I still have some leftover junk here,
some wrong thinking or is my life just crazy in this season?
And you just gotta walk through it.
I don't know.
Well, you know, rest is a place
and actually it's, so that's often why I capitalize it
when I write it out and I'm talking about it.
Also, when I talk about love,
I'll capitalize the L in love
or I capitalize the R in rest
because rest is actually a place.
If you talk to certain people,
they actually believe it's like a realm.
Like you've got heaven, you have,
and I don't wanna say that rest is outside of heaven,
but I'm talking about the fact that we understand,
oh, heaven is a realm, earth is a realm.
Some people believe that rest is a realm
in which we can coexist in rest
at the same time that we're existing in the physical world
and the same time that we're existing in heaven.
So the reason, anyway, so that's just something
that I wanted to explain about what rest actually is.
So yes, when we think that, okay,
everything is done except rest,
you know, by reading in Hebrew.
Okay, so everything's done except,
but that's the thing.
It's like, no, because everything's done,
acknowledging that everything's done,
we naturally abide in rest.
And that's how we're not able to enter rest
is if we think there's still something left to do,
including entering rest,
that that's something that we actually have to attain to.
And we don't, it's our natural state.
It's our very nature for rest.
So if we feel like, say for instance,
when you say that, okay, you're trying to abide in rest,
you're trying to do something,
and then you get interrupted.
Well, then we can, we can, we can jolt it out,
try to be patient, and we can do that sometimes
out of a place of rest.
And then we're trying to go back to, oh my goodness,
I've got to, I've got to try to get back
into a place of rest.
If there's anything that feels kind of tight
or anything that feels like, how would you put it?
Anything that, well, yeah,
just anything that kind of feels like a.
Little bit of a tightness or a what's another word that I could think of to describe that that might because that word might not resonate with some of you, but just
I don't know, like a heaviness and it doesn't have to be much, but it is a little bit
That means that we think that that rest or that God is requiring something of us that we're not doing or that God is offering something to us that for whatever reason we're falling short of stepping
And that's a problem. And so we feel this tightness. In other words, we feel that we're not already there and that God is providing us an opportunity and we're not taking it. So whether or not we're
What regardless it's always self condemnation.
And we feel that as this tightness or as this this anxiousness or this slight heaviness or this
Another way that some people might refer to it as is just you feel slightly dark in here. There's this whole thing of
Oh my goodness. Okay, now this is what I really want for myself or, you know, got to get back into it or if ever we have this thing of I'm not already there.
Whatever it is you're feeling when you think I'm not already there that right there is is the thing that we that means that we're striving. Yeah, it's it. So we have to understand, you know, rest is my nature rest my home rest owns for me. Also, remember that Sabbath was made for me and not man for the Sabbath. So Sabbath is rest. So for me, I'm not, not
Not man for rest. So we don't have to work or rest. We don't have to strive for it. There's nothing we have to do for it. There's nothing we have to do to get there. Nothing. We have to
Settle into it. It's our now. What we have to do is to release everything that's standing in the way
And it and that's the thing that we have to do. And it's actually not something that we're doing.
So that's the whole thing. We've got to stop that and
We've got to stop that, you know, we've got this container here and this is us and then we've got filled with whatever. Sorry, I'm going to use a different marker so it doesn't
So that y'all can see that the difference when it's filled up with something else. If we're not striving to get rest. Really, what we have to do is all of that angst and anxiety in us is the frustration that we feel when because this thing doesn't belong in here. It's not natural for this thing.
It's not natural for this to fill. And so when we're finally acknowledging that when we're finally acknowledging our nature. That's when that said that feeling of being upset or that feeling of
Of work or whatever. That's what that thing is. It's us finally recognizing the fact that this and this are not playing nice. And so we have to instead
You know, just release it just stop doing whatever it is we're doing. Just, just, you know, just
Just stop just release it. And if we release it and we'll let go of it because the only thing that's holding it there is the fact that we're pulling it down. If the, if we just open our hands, so to speak, and release it.
It's not our nature, so it'll naturally be drafted anyway. And then what's going to settle down in is everything out of heaven that this container was made for effortlessly
And this container. It's the very essence and the very nature of it is rest itself. So you will naturally it will naturally allow your, your nature to shine forth because rest is not something that you're attending to the rest is something that you
In a way, it's something that you are. Yeah, you want yourself that would really like lead open you up to more like spirit led product production, instead of just like, okay, here's the list that I need to
Get done, but it's more spirit led. So you're working out of a place of rest and his timing and whatever and not doing your, the extra tasks like I'm talking about like on a practical day is, is that what that would flow out as
Well, so you're wondering how it will evidence when you're in a place of rest.
Right.
So it's, it's interesting. I'm trying to think of how to go at this because there's like this process and when
Basically, what it is that we want to eventually get to what God is doing is he's maturing us as a parent. So when we, we are spirit led
But we have to remember that we're that we abide in in God. Oh, and this is something I haven't gotten into. Let me just cover really quickly because I don't know if I'm going to be able to get to it, but
I'm going to go ahead and I'm going to go ahead and I'm going to go ahead and I'm going to go ahead and I'm going to go ahead and I'm going to go ahead and
way. So remember that we're one with Christ, so
you know, we were taken out of Christ, we've been reinserted back into Christ,
I abide in Christ, Christ abides in me, we abide in the Father, and the Father
abides in us, so we're all one. Therefore I'm always about my Father's
business. So the Father is constantly moving.
That's the essence of who the Father is, is it's always flow, He's never stagnant.
So He's flowing, and as He's flowing, if we're in Him,
then what's flowing through Him, His very essence, is flowing
through us. Therefore we're always in the
Father's heart. We always know what the Father's heart is.
So operating out of that place, we're always going to be
operating according to the Spirit. We're just allowing the Father to flow
through us, because we're in that place of rest, where we're not having to do
anything to try to please the Father. We're sitting in His heart, and we feel
Him flow through us, and then we let Him, as He flows
through us, we allow that to flow out into the
earth. Then, because again, we're in a place
of rest, then we're not, that means that we're
going to manifest physically by the things that we do, by the things that on
our to-do list, or the things that we decide that we want to do, or whatever.
We can co-labor with God to make decisions.
Spirit, what do you want me to do, and I do that.
You're feeling the Father heart of the Lord. You're feeling what He
desires. You're feeling the way He's feeling in a particular
situation, when you're interacting with a particular person, or
you're in a particular environment, you're in a particular room. You're
feeling how the Father's feeling, and you act accordingly. Without the
Father always saying, talk to this person, don't talk to this
person. Don't offer to be part of this committee. Don't
offer to be part of this committee. Eventually, as we mature, we get to the
in the Lord, we get to the point where we just feel the Father's heart,
and we co-labor with Him to make decisions. He's like, well, what do you
want to do? That's what He asks me now, and I'm, and by
no means as mature as I'm going to be, but the point is that He's brought me
far enough along in this process, where now He'll, I'll ask Him, Lord,
what should I do in this situation? He'll turn back around, and He'll
throw it back at me. It's like, what do you want to do?
I'm not used to being asked that question, Lord.
It's like, well, I don't know. What do you want me to do? Well, I don't know. What do
you want to do? I don't know, Lord. I want you to, I want
to do whatever you want me to do, and He says, well, I want to do whatever you
want to do, and then nothing ever happens. Right. He
wants me to co-labor with Him, so that's how we can build our to-do
lists. That's how we can decide what it is that we are and aren't going to do,
is it's from the place of our identity, and
in resting in that and understanding this is who I am,
as opposed, and this is who the Father is, as opposed to
these are all of the things outside of Him. If I knew myself outside of Him that
I could do that He would be pleased with, all of these lists of do's and don'ts,
that's a tree of knowledge of good and evil.
If I just understand, no, I can rest and abide in Him,
well, what is He doing right now? How does He feel right now?
What according to this Father's heart does it sound like?
What do I desire, because I'm in the Father and I feel His heart,
what do I now desire being in Him and with Him?
What do we desire to do in this situation? I desire to be part of this
community. I desire to raise my hand and offer to
help somebody with such and such. I desire to do these things today.
We can make those decisions because we're in the Father's heart, as opposed
to, as opposed to our old method of
God would be pleased if I did all of those things. Right. It's now out of
understanding we're abiding in Him. That's what
being in rest is. Being in rest is just resting in the Father. We're just one
and we operate from the Father's heart. I tried to, I know that I probably said
that really quickly, so I don't know if that made sense at all.
Yeah, yeah, because I feel like that's how I walk
most of the time, but I've asked the Lord to stir up, you know,
like when we started the stay-at-home orders and all that, I was like,
okay, God, let's do something wild during this time.
So here comes Ashley with her April Intensive.
So I was excited about it, but I think, it's funny because I think that
this week, like what we talked about last week, there was that one phrase that you
used that I had shared with the group that was
so huge for me, and I have had zero, and I feel
like I have fought for it, like zero opportunity to sit down with
the Lord and like think about it and meditate on
it, which is what I want to do. Like I want time to like go over it and
get it deep down in me.
and praise him for what he's doing and and stuff like that and then it's like
anything that can't that can get in the way does get in the way and so I have
felt this week more like fight in me to be like can you just leave me alone can
the phone stop ringing can somebody stop asking me for a favor you know like we're
all supposed to stay home and take care of ourselves right now why is everybody
calling me you know type of a thing and I've just have felt that more this week
and I'm like you know I haven't felt this for a long time and so it might it
most likely it's just more that I need to to release and I need to pay
attention to to release but I feel like I can't get the time and the moments to
release it so this is perfect yeah this is real life this is where the rubber
beats the road this is where rest applies yeah and it's not like I can
neglect my children and be like no right on the wall if you want to like
what don't who cares if you get lunch like it's not like I can like there's
not things that I can throw off you know to do and I don't want to like I don't
want to treat my that's not what I'm saying but it's like I'm like Lord can
you like hide me somewhere so I can get this done how can we talk you know and
it's just been kind of an interesting time so no no I think that this is
perfect now I think that you're in a very interesting situation the fact that
it's a little bit of a I don't want to say a bit of a pressure vice situation
in order to learn this but this is exactly where it does apply in other
words that sometimes like learning it in the in the situation in which you're
in right well like oh my goodness Lord couldn't we have learned this a little
easier you know and but you can absolutely learn it in this and I'm
actually having to learn to rest and in my in the middle of a lot of a trauma
that I'm trying to heal from so I feel I'm not in a toxic relationship but I
feel the way I explained it to a friend of mine is I said I feel like I'm in a
toxic relationship trying to heal from the toxic relationship as opposed to
being able to get away from it heal from it and then come back and like test it
you know slowly but slowly I said I'm in it and I'm having to heal from it and so
just FYI I mean you absolutely can do it and I'm having to do it and learn rest
in a particular area of my life like that and and that is the thing that for
it so for one thing one of the things that we've been taught and that we have
to get rid of is is the idea that we have to we have to get away from the
Lord and we have away from Lord away with the Lord or like even have five
minutes for ourselves you know to be able to focus on him or to meditate on
something that all of those things that in other words that what it is that
we're seeking for the magic sauce the thing that the vestibule in which in the
vessel through which God in which God can transition me and shift me into
something new is if I have time yeah quiet or if I have whatever and that's
not true I mean God uses it absolutely but that's one of the things and here's
what here's that and here's one of the ways that I know that God never leaves
us in a place of lack or some people have time and others don't that's good
some people are there there's some people that can okay like some of these
people that say oh you can only be saved if you confess your with your mouth the
Lord Jesus because you know there's that verse well some people can't talk God
would not create somebody that literally is mute I don't know maybe they were
born without a tongue maybe whatever and then and say oh you know what they can't
become a Christian because they can't say the name of Lord Jesus God does not
leave us in a place of lack if someone says okay well you have to let some
people say oh well no the only way that you can break through in this area is if
you fast long enough but then there are some people who literally cannot do that
well so it brings condemnation to them because they're thinking okay well sure
so-and-so can do that but I can't in my situation I'm sick I can't afford to I
can't afford to fast I will die you know or whatever this case may be God God
doesn't restrict the ways that we get to him and say well this is the only way
that didn't work it just happened to work you know in somebody else's life
like that so I just wanted to that that frustration that we feel that Lord if
only I had
then I would do this for you because I'm willing.
I'm willing, but Lord, I don't have the time,
or Lord, I want to be able to meditate,
but I can't think or whatever.
We think that God is requiring us to do those things
or that it's some principle that God has put into place
that is required of us in order for us
to be able to step into and be able to receive
the inheritance that the Lord brings.
And what that does is that type of belief
and that type of faith, meaning like our faith
that that's the way that it works,
brings self-condemnation, and that is a big issue.
Anything that brings self-condemnation is wrong.
It's a problem.
Yeah.
So anyway, so I just want to relieve you of that.
God isn't upset that you don't have the time.
God isn't upset that, oh my goodness,
you chose to give the kids lunch
instead of spending time with me,
or you chose to pick up the phone when your friend calls
instead, even though you and I had set aside this time.
God's not upset by things like that.
That's not a problem.
The way that we actually shift, you do not have,
and here's basically what I'm trying to get down to.
For one thing, I want to relieve us
of any self-condemnation, and the second thing
is that the, wow.
Sorry, I went down a little rabbit trail in my mind
thinking, oh, I should tell them about this,
and it seems I did a lot of everything I was about to say.
So because I lost that, let me go down the rabbit trail.
I've said this before.
If ever you find yourself in any situation
that you're not happy with, you're frustrated with,
you think God wants something,
that we think God wants something of us,
or we've done something that we think hurts somebody else,
we've actually done something wrong.
We have yelled at somebody, we've, I don't know.
We didn't trust God with something,
and that in our minds, this is one of the list of the don'ts
or this is one of the things you don't do.
You don't do and we do them.
The very first thing we have to deal with,
very first thing, and I tell all my clients this,
ignore what it is you did and deal with the fact
that you feel condemned for it.
Deal with the shame, deal with the condemnation,
and understand that we have to get rid of that first, period.
After we understand, okay, look, okay, okay,
I did that, whatever.
I'm gonna ignore that, I'm gonna deal with that in a minute.
What I should do to bring restitution,
what I should do to bring reconciliation
to the relationship, I will deal with that in a second.
First of all, I need to understand that God says
that there is therefore now no condemnation,
that if I think God is requiring something of me
and therefore that's a problem, that's wrong.
That's a wrong way to think and deal with that shame first.
Get rid of that shame, get rid of that condemnation.
Remember that God doesn't hold any of that against us,
that I've done that or I haven't done that, whatever.
Get rid of that first and then deal with,
okay, well, now that I've dealt with that,
what should I do now?
Now that I'm in the Father, I know I'm in the Father,
everything's fine, what is in the Father's heart
for me to bring reconciliation?
What is in the Father's heart for me to do with my time?
Did I do it the way that I should have
or is it good if I made a different choice
or could I make a different choice next time?
Then you're able to make a decision from a healthier place.
We can't make a decision about how to govern our lives
and how to govern because God gives us the increase
and we govern the increase.
We cannot govern the increase from a healthy perspective
if we're doing it from a place of shame and condemnation.
So we have to deal with the shame and condemnation first.
We have to come to a place to understand
that we're resting, that we rest in freedom.
Then we can make a decision about whatever it is
we're trying to make a decision about.
So I don't know if you felt like
that was a really strange rabbit trail,
but my first and foremost,
I'm trying to release this all into freedom
and all from condemnation
and that's the root of all of these things.
So I highly recommend that's what we do first.
So don't ever feel bad or frustrated
if something didn't work the way that you wanted to
because that frustration, that stress, that anxiety,
that shame, that condemnation is the first thing
that has to be dealt with before the action.
What should I have done?
What shouldn't I have done?
That's secondary.
God's more concerned with our attitude towards it first.
We can stand in the place of freedom
and we can approach together.
And what was the other thing I was gonna say?
I was gonna say that was very important.
Because you were talking about the time
and oh shoot, that was really important.
Sorry, I don't remember.
Maybe I'll remember it.
second. Did I leave any part of your question unaddressed? Like, is it still confusing? Is
there a part like, okay, well, you answered this, but you didn't answer my bigger question.
Yeah, no, I think it's good. I think even while you were talking,
condemnation was the first thing that the Lord used in my freedom. And so that resonates with
me a lot. And while you were talking, I remembered something that somebody had said to me three or
four years ago that has popped up this week and feeling like, oh, because I'm not getting these
things done or whatever, or I'm being available for others, which I want to do. That's my first
instinct to do. And that shows irresponsibility on my part. And it's like, I'm not a responsible
person because I didn't also do, I did list A, but I didn't do list B. But Jesus is always in
scripture. And I think always to me now, it's not the Pharisees that are like, well, the widow
tithed to might, but we tithe even on, what did they say? Like their herbs and their spices and
stuff. And Jesus is like, you have completely missed it. You have, hello. And so I think that's
how, when that person said it to me, it came off as I was like, you have totally, no. And I rejected
it like in the minute, but it kind of, as they say in the South, like got in my craw. And so every
once in a while, it will, I will hear that voice again of like, this is because you're irresponsible.
And I'm like, I don't know a soul in my life that would call me irresponsible. But then it's,
but then I'm like, but it probably, I probably am. I'm probably lazy too. I don't know.
You know, so I think, I think even while you talk, the Lord's like, there is another voice here that,
that needs to be released and sent away. So yeah. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. In fact, there were
people that had said some things to me, not even a year ago. I have been called, to my face,
I was called prideful. I was called, what was it? I was called rebellious. I was called disrespectful
of others. I was called selfish. I was told that my relationship with God was wrong. I mean,
I'm not kidding. Those were the exact words. I'm not paraphrasing. I'm not saying, well,
the context, no, no, they use those words. And that's not even true, but it hurt because there
was a slight niggling in there wondering, well, what if God showed me that they weren't true?
So this is interesting. And just in case it's helpful to anybody else, because this is a total
side note, but I asked the Lord later, I was like, Lord, where were you when the, those people were
saying those things to me? Because it was actually, it was actually two people together that,
that were tagged to me and were saying those things over me. I'm like, I'm just like,
Lord, I'm just shocked. Because like you Holly, I was like, I don't know anybody that would call
me that. So I had to turn it off some family members and ask, am I really like this? And I'm
like, oh my word, Ashley. I'm like, well, I just had to check. Because, you know, there's this
like little seed that it kind of plants me of like, oh my word, am I irresponsible? I think,
I don't remember if they use that word. There have been people that call me irresponsible. I'm like,
that doesn't make any sense. But anyway, so I asked the Lord when those things, I mean,
where he was when I was just being like tag teamed. And, and, and at first I didn't want to
know. I didn't want to ask the Lord that because I thought that means then that he was there and
he didn't do anything about it while I was being abused. Right. And I was like, I really don't
want to know that he was there. But I thought, okay, Ashley, you know, just ask him, just ask
him. I know that it sounds like it might hurt, but just ask him. So I did, I asked him, okay, Lord,
where were you? Cause in my mind, I'm like, I cannot think of a possible scenario
in which he was there and it would be okay there and it would feel, it would feel okay.
And, uh, this is actually relevant. I know this sounds like I'm going off on a rabbit trail,
but this is actually relevant to our identity. Um, he, so I asked him to give me a picture.
And so what it was is in this, in this, um, in the situation I was in, I was sitting in a chair
when people were coming at me. So I, I, I put myself back in the, in the, in the situation
and, and I, and I was sitting in the chair cause I'm seeing it in my mind's eye. And I asked the
Lord to show me. I was in the chair and I was sitting in the chair and I asked the Lord to show me
Where, where he was and I was shocked. He was sitting in my chair and I was in him. My arms were in him. My legs were in him. I was totally inside of him.
And my head was in him everything except for the fact that there was like this much of a gap between my skin and his so I was so far into him that there was even
There was like a buffer, if you will, a layer of him between me and the out and anything on the outside.
So when these words I saw these words in my mind. I saw these words that were people were saying as like chunks, like, in other words, objects or arrows that were being thrown
And at first I thought, oh, okay, so I'm in Christ and Christ is showing me that that they hit him and not me and they bounced off of him. And that's not what the picture showed
Christ said instead that that that because those things were not true with him. And since I was in him and those things that were being said of him or being said of me weren't true with him, then they weren't true with me.
And then he said they didn't bounce off of me, Ashley. He said, Ashley, they couldn't even didn't even have any force and power to come out of their mouths, because it wasn't true.
It wasn't true.
So what I saw was them them in there. I don't want to say their wickedness, but
That the wicked things that they were saying did not even have the power evil didn't have the power to come forth beyond their perimeter beyond the perimeter of their mouth.
To because because it those those because there was a greater truth that was present. And so those things that wanted to come out didn't even have power to come out when truth when it was in the presence of truth because it would have come out into the presence of truth and it didn't have any power to do that. So I say that
I know that that was kind of like taking the like this thing that you actually meant
No, it's
Is a totally separate and point that you were trying to make that my point in bringing it up is the fact that God through that picture.
Showed me an interesting layer to our identity and how that affects us that I am so one with him that not only could these things not can
Hit me and and they didn't even deflect off of Christ, because they didn't even have the power to come out of the person's mouth. Now the person was saying them, but there was no there was no in the picture, like in the visual picture of everything.
It not of their mouths. It stayed inside of them with them saying those things because it was almost like they were poisoning themselves.
It didn't have any power to come out because the power of the Lord and the truth of the Lord is so pervasive that it will fill up an entire environment. Right. That is my identity.
So, and so it didn't even matter if I've done those things or not. If it's not true Christ. It's not true me
Because that old man has died. It was that old man that is the new man. Those things aren't true anymore. So anytime that we feel that we're irresponsible. Any time that we feel or like, oh, I wonder, I wonder if I'm like
One of the biggest things that I fell with my whole life is feeling like I must be lazy and
Then we think, okay, well, is it true Christ. No, it's not. Then it's not true of me because I'm a new man. This new man.
Sorry.
Okay, sorry. Someone's downstairs and opening something. Sorry, scared me and
And if it's not true Christ and it's not true me because I am the new man and the new man is never send rather
We've never sent at all. I'm not a sinner saved by grace. I have literally never sent. It's not my answer. Excuse me. So that's, that's, again, it's just my identity.
There's no more always anything else that God
Is
I don't have to. So it doesn't matter if I complete everything on list.
It doesn't matter if I complete everything on list. I could complete that.
And it doesn't change who I am and it doesn't change how much he loves me and he's not. I'm not going to incur the wrath of God. I'm not going to incur his displeasure.
And so doing or not doing anything has no bearing whatsoever on anything. It changed, whether or not I get blessings. It doesn't change on whether or not God looks favorably on me. It honestly, it just doesn't change anything because God gives me things based on what I've done and I'm not going to incur the wrath of God, I'm not going to incur his displeasure.
off of his nature, not on mine.
And so anyway, I just wanted to mention that. So if we're
wondering, oh Lord, you've provided me the opportunity to learn something new
and I'd like to meditate on it. And so don't think that I
am ignoring you, Lord. Don't think that I'm not trying. Don't
think that I'm not willing. I'm just waiting for time. I'm just waiting for
whatever. God's just like, no, I can give that to
you. I can give that to you while you're
going about your daily tasks. Right. And that, okay, finally I'm back to
what it was that I knew that I was wanting to say,
is that the Lord showed me back in
December. He showed me this that I thought was so cool.
So I saw a vision of a spirit man in the heaven. Okay, well first of all,
I saw this soul that was trying to do something. It heard
from the Lord, hey look, you can fix it. So the soul man went in and he's trying
to fix it and he couldn't figure out how to fix it
because God kept saying, no, that's not right. That's not right. That's not right.
So the soul man's like, okay, apparently I don't know what I'm
doing. So he stopped. Then all of a sudden that
soul's spirit man came out of heaven and
started doing the thing while the soul stood back and was watching
his own spirit man because you know we're spiritual.
The soul is watching the spirit man do it and he's like,
huh, so that's how you do that. So in other words,
the spirit can do things and we don't have to be
conscious of what it is that the spirit is doing in order for it to happen.
So in order for us to heal from traumas, in order for us
to learn new things of the Lord, we, the soul,
we've always done it backwards. We're always taught we have to learn all of
these things. We have to go to more teachings. We have to
hire a coach. We have to be part of an April Intensive.
We have to listen. We have to read the Bible.
We have to do all of these things in order to
progress in our spiritual maturity and while it works,
it's a much more exhausting way to live. It's
going through the back door. God allows it, but it's going through the back door.
It's still operating in worse. So God can, if we just,
if we just allow our soul to stop doing everything, that's why I keep saying
just to stop doing, stop, stop, then the soul will stop and
that gives the spirit the chance to come in and do things and while it's doing it,
the soul, so that's apparently how you do it.
Or maybe the soul will realize it after the fact,
but so in other words, you can't, so it's like learning things through
osmosis. So you don't have to sit and meditate on
anything in order to learn it. You can meditate
on it and the Lord loves it. He talks about that. He talks about that in
scripture. He talks about sowing and reaping in scripture. He talks about all
of these things. They're not bad and they're not wrong,
but we've grabbed him and thought that it was the only way that it
could be done and it was the, that going in through the back door
that our soul had to be conscious of it in order for anything to happen,
to change in our subconscious. We had to work for it
in order for anything to happen, even anything spiritual.
Right. We can do it. It's going to take 10 times as long
and it's going to be a lot harder. So we just wanted to again release all of us
to know we don't have to have, we don't have to
set aside the time. People don't have to be posting anything
on Facebook, you know, for the April Intensive. They
don't have to do the lives. They don't have to live. You honestly
don't even have to listen to the teachings.
You don't have to do any of it. God can, the problem is we don't know how to stop
doing what we're doing. So that's what I try to explain in the teachings
is to teach us how to stop and to start thinking from a different mindset.
But as soon as we start realizing, oh, that's how I stopped working.
That's how I stopped trying. Then our spirit will naturally come in and do
what it's naturally created to do and it will
be the problem. We'll learn all of those things by
osmosis. We'll change through osmosis. We will change
and we'll start bearing the fruits of the spirit like love, joy, peace, patience,
kindness, goodness and all of that without knowing that that's what we're
learning. The spirit is working behind the
scenes while our mind is on, okay, my child just
asked me for lunch. My child is about to hurt himself so I better go take
care of that. Or I mean I'm getting a call from a friend
at the umpteenth time. In the background, as long as we're in a
place of rest,
The spirit is healing us.
The spirit is having it, is teaching us.
We don't have to,
I say we're already in the place of rest.
The spirit can teach us how to be in a place of rest
while we're going about our day.
So we don't have to stop
and learn something in order to implement it.
We can, and it works,
but it's more exhausting.
Every now and then though,
that's the way that our soul needs to learn
because we're struggling to gain this new perspective.
We can, what some people call,
drop that down into our soul.
We can find our soul again.
Okay, now I feel like I'm on sure footing again.
Okay, now I know this.
It's kind of like putting the training wheels
back on for a second.
I just, okay, Lord,
it's a little scary to cross the street right now
and I can ride it on the sidewalk and be all wobbly,
but I'm about to have to cross the street
and that's really scary,
feeling like without my training wheels.
So let me stick my training wheels back on
just to cross the street.
And after I crossed the street,
okay, now I feel a bit better to try again
and take the training off and we could go again.
That's okay.
And I wanted to, again, relieve us of the fact
that we don't have to worry that,
oh, I thought I wasn't supposed to do this.
No, we can do it whenever we need to.
God's just providing us an opportunity
to move into something else.
And we might bounce back and forth.
You know, today we're doing this.
Tomorrow we do this.
Today we're doing this again
because this is what our soul needs.
And then the next day, oh, but I want to try this again.
There is for now no condemnation.
We're not vilifying this anymore.
I mean, as if like, oh, well that used to be okay
and it's not anymore.
We're not vilifying it.
We're not saying it's evil.
We're not saying it's not of the Lord.
We're just saying, hey, there's another option.
Do you want to move into that?
And it depends on the day, depends on the moment,
depends on the area of life
that we're operating in at the moment
as to which one we feel the most peace at,
where we feel that our faith is at.
And sometimes our peace is here.
Sometimes our faith is here.
And sometimes our faith is here.
God wants us to operate wherever our faith
and our peace is at and he'll meet us there.
Yes.
Okay, thank you.
And thank y'all for your patience
and all my talking and question.
So it is actually 8.39.
So if someone has another question,
I can answer a question.
Otherwise, we can, y'all can all go off to your evening.
So it's just whatever y'all want to do with your time.
So does anyone have anything before we get off?
Maybe I should read it like that.
Everybody's good?
Okay.
Does Carrie have something?
Carrie, did you have something?
No, I was just thinking that I don't have any questions
as of right now.
But yeah, I think I might sign off and head to bed.
I didn't get to bed until after midnight last night
because I was too engrossed in your teaching.
I noticed how many people were on.
I was like, I hope they know that I'm here.
But I was like, I can't stop.
I'm sorry I'm late because I had a client call.
And then today I had a five-hour client call.
Oh, my life.
Yes, that is not normal.
But for my one-on-one,
the longest client call I've had was eight hours.
And it was supposed to be like an hour,
and we went eight because that's what the person needed.
Anyway, I'm sorry that I was really late last night.
Y'all could jump off at any time.
Honestly, in the late hours of the evening
is sometimes when my mind is just,
there's no kids, there's nothing around.
It's just silence and darkness,
and I can just sit there and listen without any distraction.
So it actually worked out really good.
Late evenings, as much as I pay for them the next morning,
it's where it works best right now for my season of life.
So it worked out perfectly.
Good.
Well, it sounds like nobody has any questions
unless you correct me.
So good to get to see everybody.
I was just gonna offer something real quick
to tag onto what you shared, Ashley,
that might be helpful for Holly as far as rest.
It sounds like you're perceiving rest as inactivity,
and when you have a bunch of little kids,
that that isn't possible.
And so I've had a bunch of little kids,
and mine are grown now,
but even without little kids,
I could get really busy and focused on a list,
and thinking that if I did certain things,
I was more spiritual.
And so I work as an independent contractor,
so I can work as much or as little as I wanted.
So I always felt like, well,
I'll just work a couple hours, and then I'll do all these spiritual things the rest of the day and I
Well first of all I was going to say so I would have a list or even just yeah things
I was going to go do this happened yesterday and
When I stopped at the first stop to pick up something from a friend
She was out in the yard working and this woman is older and she's sick
And so me and my son stopped and I said let's we can hit why didn't you tell me?
I would have come early and helped you she goes well
There's still plenty to do so I ended up spending an hour helping her in the yard
And then the next thing on my list I realized I don't have time to do this
I used to stress over things like that if they didn't go like I would plan out my day
And I want to get all these things done. I'd feel really good about myself
But I realized that if I surrender that list to the Lord
Then there comes rest because I allow him to direct my day
And so I ended up helping this friend when I got back in my car
I didn't have time to do the next thing on my list
I had to go home and get ready for dinner and
It turned out like that next thing on my list would have been a waste of time and I see that all the time
that
Things I thought I had to do but they get interrupted is really the Lord directing my day
and so I've just realized I just go oh guess I didn't need to do that today and
It's really brought a lot of peace and so I feel like you know
The rest is not being able to get away from that list
but in the middle of that list allowing the Lord to direct you and
Knowing that he is guiding you and that he's leading you in a place of rest
He eliminates the things you don't need to do
So even in the natural brings more quote-unquote rest because he's kind of sifting your list for you
But on then the other thing I was going to share about that was that
So I had this mentality that like if I just work two hours a day in my job
then I can have all this time to work on other stuff that I thought was more pleasing to God or that would make
me closer to God or that would make you know, make me feel more loved or more whatever and
Just recently. I
Mission that God as a father hasn't gets the most pleasure out of us enjoying ourselves
and I admitted to myself how much I loved my job and I started doing it more and
I was like, of course, you're pleased with this. I'm pleased when my kids are enjoying what they're doing
Instead of trying to do all these things that they think are gonna please me
It's like no, you're the happiest as a parent when your kids are happy
and so I was like
I love my job
And so I've been working like all day and sometimes into the late evening
yes, but I've been like like shooting to the top of the sales team and
Just making sales every day and people are calling me people that have been in my industry for way longer than me
What are you doing? What are you doing? You know what? I'm just enjoying
Myself and I just allowed myself to enjoy what was right in front of me instead of thinking
I had to do all these other things and I know that the father is taking pleasure in that
I don't I used to be like you I get up in the middle of the night to spend time with the Lord and
I'm not I know if I sacrifice and then quote and Ashley that it's painful that God will meet me there
Right, and you know, there was a time in my life where that was true, but I wasn't doing it out of striving
I would jump out of bed and go
I'm gonna spend time with the Lord because I wanted to in the middle of the night
But but I started doing it as a work like oh this used to be really so satisfying
Let me do this now because God will meet me there now and it was really just not working
So I gave up on and I was like, you know what? He's happy with me when I'm in my cozy bed
enjoying a good night's sleep and
You know just started learning all this stuff listening to Ashley and so that that's when I got the revelation
You know what? I really love my job. So I would just encourage you to
You know in the midst of that what you have to do just to enjoy what you're doing and
And know that the father's pleased
With it. He's just pleased with you being a mom and the other thing about speaking to you
I because when my kids were little I never had time to sit with the Lord very much
I'd go in my room shut my door for two seconds before you get interrupted, but
Because I've been a Christian for a long time 27 years, but um
But I would ask the Lord a question
Like your question might be how do I enter that rest that Ashley's talking about?
They don't feel like I'm there and I would know I just leave it with him and like at some point washing dishes
Changing the diaper it would just come to me and the Lord just reveal the answer to me
So and I you know, it wasn't like hours of meditation or even spending
quote-unquote spending time with him. He would just and I got to the point where
I knew that would happen if I asked the Lord a
heartfelt question like Lord show me the answer to this
and then it was I just got to be like a game and I
I would know within 24 to 48 hours he would drop the answer in my spirit
when I wasn't even thinking about it. So it's true what
Ashley's saying like he is in the midst of everything you're doing
he's not separate from that you don't have to you're not
lacking time with him you're he's with you all the time
so I know sometimes you want like that time just to be alone
and you can ask him for that but also ask him just to
just speak to you in the middle yeah did it seem like from what I said
that I um didn't know how to do that or that I am
struggling to rest is that what you heard me say
well you were just asking about time away so he could be with the Lord and
all and the rest so I just thought maybe that would be helpful to you
yeah if not no that's fine I just I was wondering what you heard me say
also so that's good feedback
yeah yeah no no Holly don't worry you um
no you weren't struggling with rest you were just asking specifically about
like you know the uh what would you say is
that you were talking about you know well in entering into his rest
I feel like I'm entering into his rest but you were wondering if there was
still an element of striving right in entering is that you were
wondering about it did I understand correctly
yes yes that's fine yeah yeah the striving of entering
into his right and in entering into the rest and so
um because yeah and then anyway so hopefully I answered
no yes absolutely I'm fine yeah that was good
yeah by the way a total side note but it reminded me um I don't know if y'all
know that well no I think you may know
because I think that that any of you may have mentioned this
she gave me this book oh I love it she wrote this book was it six years ago
I think something like that I don't know if you can like backwards
however eight amazing kids in spite of myself
oh cool yeah so she's she's really uh she's really fun
she is actually a parenting coach so she's a lot of fun for for me to talk to
you and get to hear like what she um how she raised her eight her eight kids I
think there's our oldest is like 40 and
their youngest is 17 is that right amy almost 42 almost 42 there you go
there you go really fun to talk to but yeah anyway thank y'all so much good
to see y'all yeah thank you ashley yeah
good stuff bye thanks for sharing holly yes thank you amy
you're welcome y'all have a good night praying for all y'all thanks for your
prayers absolutely appreciate it
bye