Did anybody come with any questions from this week or, I don't know, anything that maybe
y'all have been processing this week and been able to see how the Lord's come through
for you in certain areas or anything, because I forgot I was going to have some things prepared
like questions or things that I noticed that people have been talking about that I could
start with, but I forgot to do that.
So if you give me a second, I'm sure I can come up with something.
But in the meantime, does anyone have any questions?
I don't have a question, but I have a comment.
Yes.
You want to comment?
Love a comment.
Okay.
And this came from a personal conversation, but I'm fine with sharing it as long as you're
okay.
Ashley, it's not really about you, but just she was teaching me about how the spirit heals
the soul and we don't even know how, and just releasing things.
And so I just kind of, I mean, I don't know if you really told me how to do it, but I
just kind of figured out, you know, well, I need to release the negative things I'm
feeling, the typical emotional responses and release those.
And then I just kind of talked myself through it.
It was like, I went to bed one night and, well, I remember you said, think about positive
things when you, you know, just think about the good, but I went to bed one night and
I heard other people talk about and done a little bit myself, but I just, I gave my spirit
permission to heal my soul while I was asleep.
And it's really been, I can tell a big difference and, and just, I mean, it's like a huge difference
really.
And, you know, I couldn't really tell you what it is or was, but it's like you said,
you don't have to know what the problem is or the wounding is in your soul for your spirit
to heal it.
And at some point, you know, it may be revealed to you, but anyway, so it's just, it's been
a really interesting experience to kind of follow that process through.
And I don't know if I did it right, but it worked for me.
No, no, absolutely.
That's it.
Because, and you're right.
Just kind of the same way that you thought, okay, yeah, but how do I actually do it?
And then when you, when you did it, you're like, okay, I don't even know if I did it
right.
I mean, that's, that's the thing is that's why it's hard to describe because we want
something kind of to be able to grab a hold up.
Like, but I keep referring to a sink our teeth into like, yeah, but what do I do?
Or how am I going to feel?
Or how do I know?
How can I measure that?
I, I followed the process and that I've actually, you know, and what time, what's the standard
that I can measure it against?
And if there's, that's the thing is with the spirit, there's not those things, which is
why we like the soul, which is why we'd like to operate out of the tree, the knowledge
of good and evil, because there's like this system of measurement and we're so used to
operating in a system in which there's something that we can sneak our teeth into.
There's something that with a substance that we can grab a hold up to give ourselves the
assurance that I'm on the right path.
I'm doing it right and make sure I don't do it wrong and that I'm going to get the result.
I mean, all of that is so, um, is so ingrained in our habit of thinking and expectation that
it's very difficult for us to shift ourselves out of that, to receive something in the spirit
that we're like, well, for, especially in the beginning stages, I'm having a hard time
even like understanding how to verbalize it to someone else.
So, so that's why sometimes it's difficult when, you know, for, when I explain this for
people to actually grab a hold of and know to have now to know how to actually start
on it.
But what you did it exactly the way that we should step out into the spirit, which is
I'm going to go for it.
Don't really know what I'm doing.
Don't know what it's.
look like, don't know how I'm supposed to feel, don't know if I'm supposed to feel anything.
In other words, we're stepping into an unknown with the Lord, and we're just journeying.
And while we're on the journey, sometimes we're like looking for milestones, and they
don't occur in this spirit in the same way that they do in the soul.
And so then it makes us really feel off kilter, like, is it going right?
But yeah, no, what you did is exactly right.
It's just kind of like you hear about something, and then you make a choice.
I'm going to step into that.
And so you do, and you just, and you just intentionally step into it without your soul
knowing what you're going to step in, you make an intentional shift, like this is where
my intention is now going, even though I don't know how to get there, how to step into it,
whatever.
It's an intention shift.
And then the spirit just kind of takes over.
So know that that's perfect.
And I said it was really good.
Good.
Yeah, and it's so effortless, and it's so peaceful, and it's so easy.
And yeah, I didn't know what to expect.
But it was just like, well, I've done all the other programs and processes, and I'm
still a stinking mess.
And, you know, time just keeps passing, you think how much longer before I'm put back
together.
And I have to say that just that one little interaction with the spirit, and has probably
changed me more in effortlessly while I was sleeping, than any other, like intensive inner
healing program I've, and I've been through just about any one of them that you can name.
You know, I've been a Christian for 27 years and came out of Catholicism, and intense legalism
and, you know, and just a very dysfunctional background.
And growing up just really hadn't, I mean, my soul was just trampled.
And so I had no grid for living life as a, just, you know, it's all relational, it comes
out in relational stuff, and relationships were just like, forget it.
So, yeah, I'm excited.
And I can tell just in a short time, few days, how my reaction and response to other people
is very, very, very different.
So I'm excited.
I'm excited for you too.
Yeah, and just as an encouragement to everyone, you know, I, I am, and, and sharing with y'all
the things that has, that the Lord has revealed to me, sometimes through other people, sometimes,
sometimes just from the Lord.
And I still walk in these things, I still walk out.
So the things that you're, you know, you're talking about, about like praying, and asking,
you know, the Spirit to, to shift when the soul doesn't know what to do.
I've got some things that I am trusting the Lord for, meaning like, I'm having to choose
to believe that it's true, and choose to believe that He's that good, and choose to believe
that He's that loving.
And especially the past few days, there have been some things.
Anything right, but because you draw near to God, and He flees from you.
And I think when you, like, are amazed and really start believing the finished work of
Christ, that it is finished, there's like no room for the enemy in that.
There's just no more room.
And so one of the gals who I, I really genuinely like, talks about the enemy all the time.
And I have never said anything to her, but she continually asks me what I think.
But then, and she's so great, you guys, and you know how, you know how it is, she, the
thing is that she's as talkative as I am.
So I feel like I can say this, because this is my own vice, but it's like you ask somebody
their opinion, and then you just keep talking about whatever it is you're talking about,
you know, like rest, and listen, and learn, and be humble, or whatever.
Okay, so she is very much in, she is very much consumed with the, the serious battle
that her family has been through the last several years.
And she talks about the enemy so much, and gives credit to the enemy.
Specifically, here's my question, specifically that when you are on the path
that God has for you. The oppression of the enemy is part of the proof that you're where
God has you because the enemy won't fight you if you're off course, which is a whole mentality in
itself that you're off course versus on course. Okay. But like that's part of your confirmation
is that everything goes to hell in a handbasket. Like, all right, I'm where I'm supposed to be
because it's worse than ever. And she has asked me several times about it, like in one-on-one
situations or in our small group settings, because we're both on leadership and that kind of thing.
And I'll get to say like, well, why do you give him so much credit? Or like, why do you think he
has so much room to do this? And then it's like a whole rabbit trail. And she has experienced a lot
of pain and a lot of oppression. So that is very real. And I do not want to belittle that at all,
but I'm looking for verbiage to encourage her without like, without being like,
all you do is talk about the enemy and think about the enemy. And, and, and, and like you,
like today she made this post, her grocery cart fell over in the parking lot of the grocery store.
And she's like, this is just Satan. And I'm like, or it's top heavy. I don't know. Like,
oh, I'm just wondering, like, and I know it's totally as the Holy Spirit leads,
but I do also wonder, like, how do you take someone who just sees the enemy in every negative
thing and go and, and really pull out the finished work of Christ to them? And this, I'm telling you,
this is a Jesus loving girl. She is, she is no preschooler in the faith. Like the girl has
been there, you know, she knows the word and stuff, but she it's, she's just consumed by this.
And I feel like I might have an opportunity to help with some freedom in that area. If I
could think of a way to just say, what if it's not, and let like the Holy Spirit work some of
that out, can you help with verbiage in that? What do you see about how the enemy gets room
to oppress us? And where do you see the freedom in that and all of that?
Um, so I agree with you, the, uh, you know, like we've talked about so many times, the more that
we focus on the negative, the, the bigger that it gets same thing with the enemy. I, I, I have
people that I talk to that do the same thing. Every time I talk to them, they talk, they're
always talking about the enemy and how powerful he is and, oh, my God, he's doing this. And
I'm like, goodness, you know, I'm not going to let him do that. And we're just going to tell
him what for, and cause I'm stronger than him and dah, dah, dah. But dadgummit, they're still
talking about him. They're talking about how they're overpowering him and how they've overcome
him. But dadgummit, they still bring him up. And I'm like, you don't have to talk about him anymore.
You know, just ignore him, you know, in very simplistic terms. So as far, so I agree with
you in that the more that we understand that we're here, the more that we understand that we're one
with Christ, then the, everything's been placed under Christ, under his feet. So therefore
everything's under our feet, including Satan. So because there is no more spiritual warfare
from that perspective, there's spiritual warfare. If we put ourselves down here in the soul
and then we're fighting and then yes, he's got his strategies are more powerful and he's,
and he's been around longer and, you know, he can outsmart us and so many things because,
and that's where down here, we have to learn all of the strategies, do all this inner healing,
have all this deliverance, et cetera, et cetera. So as far as talking to people like that, I agree.
It is a challenge and it has been a challenge for me. And one of the biggest challenges
is the fact that I want to help people because I understand that they can walk in a, in an amount
of freedom that they're not walking in. And I desire, and what I have to realize is when I'm
in there and I'm, when I'm listening to someone and they're talking to me, especially if they're
asking for advice, then it is, it's, it's been challenging for me also to figure out how to
respond. And what I have realized is I respond in the same way that I do if they don't ask for
advice. I respond to them in the same way that I do with a, a child who doesn't know his identity
or when I'm working with a client and not because of my, not because of my industry,
not because of what I do, but because it's a customer because it's a client. In other words,
it's another person that I'm interacting with, or it's one of my parents, or it's one of my.
friends. I mean, it's the exact same anyway. So it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter the situation.
So that helped make it easier for me. And that is the fact that I always have to understand that
to see everyone like this, and to always talk to them like that. Yeah, as opposed to the you know,
if someone someone can believe that they're broken, or they can believe that Satan is very
powerful, either way, they're talking to you that like they're down here. So I always talk to them
like they're up here. I don't talk to this person, even though this is how they're presenting to
themselves to me, including the fact Hey, I'm a strong Christian. I know what's what I know the
walls of the enemy. I'm very aware of him. I'm always on the defensive. I understand his strategies.
I know how to fight him. It's still down here. And they're not down there. They're up here. So I
refuse to talk to this person. And I always talk to this person, I always talk to them up here.
And then they'll naturally over time rise. And the way that I do that is instead of affirming
that affirming their talk about the enemy, which gets me talking about the enemy,
I constantly refer to who they are. But they'll agree with all my word, you know, you're you're
you're one in Christ, and you're this and you're that as opposed to telling them how everything
that they're saying isn't true. Yeah. Because that can that can make people upset that can make
people feel like we like we're not aware, like we're naive, and we're not aware of how powerful
he is. And all of that. So in other words, we don't know how and that we don't understand how
bad their life is. Yes, that is, it's like, you don't get it. And it's like, okay. Yeah,
yes, that's exactly so. And I'm glad you mentioned that. Because when I talk to them up here,
I don't ever devalue that I don't ever talk about it in such a way that I am devaluing or ignoring
how difficult their life is, or the fact that Oh, does that make sense? Like, is it I'm saying that
Oh, everything is actually hunky dory for you. Yeah, really, their life, their life is evidenced
very differently. So I always acknowledge that, but I taught I just constantly talk them up.
They're like, Oh, my word, you know, I greatly admire this in you. And you you're always like
this, and you're like this, you're like this, you're like this. And, and, and, and it's so
neat how God says that we're like, that we're like x, y, and z. And I see you stand in that all the
time. And whatever. In other words, we're strengthening their understanding of who it is
that they are, which is the very thing that they've lost that they make that makes them feel
powerless. So if I'm always talking to them about how strong that they are, and the things that I
see in them that I that I admire about how they're following the Lord or how they're obeying him in
always believing how, and always believing their position in God, or their, their power over Satan,
or I don't know the fact that Satan is under their feet, and whatever. In other words, I'm
constantly talking to affirming who they are in everything that they agree with, then that keeps
me from having to talk about Satan. And it also keeps me from sounding like I'm devaluing or
ignoring how, how difficult and challenging their lives are. I don't know if I'm making any sense.
I mean, I mean, sorry, I don't know if what I'm saying is actually making sense in the practical,
if you can actually see what I'm saying, actually put into practice in an everyday conversation,
like someone's just asked you something, and they're waiting. Yeah, I don't know if what I'm
saying is, is, is resonating, or if I'm talking too high level, because I know what I'm saying.
And if I'm talking so level, I'm actually not making it practical. Well, I think I'm leaving
gaps. Yeah, one thing that she and I have specifically bonded over is last year,
our family had a very difficult year. And I fought a lot of fear. But I went,
like, because of what the Lord had already done in me and for me, I went to him, like,
I don't understand where this is coming from, because I know that the enemy can't get in. So
I need you to show me what's going on. Because this is, you know, the thief comes to steal,
kill and destroy. This is, you know, stuff getting eaten up. This is, this is lack,
this is waste. This is, this has the enemy written all over it. But I'm over here in the kingdom.
So I don't understand why this is reaching and melding and that kind of a
thing. And so she and I had kind of bonded over circumstances.
And, um, so she would start talking about the enemy and I would,
I would kind of what you're saying, but I don't think I nailed it by any means.
I would say something like,
I'm just so glad that I know that God has given me back the
keys to the kingdom and that nothing can tear that away from me.
So I don't have to really worry about losing anything.
You know, I got to worry about losing my kids.
I don't have to worry about losing my home.
I have to worry about losing my marriage.
I'm so glad that the Lord has given me that. And she would be like,
uh, yeah. And then like, keep going.
Is that what you're talking about in a way? Or are you talking about,
I would, instead of affirming a truth,
I would speak to her spirit and affirm her spirit to take it up to
the spirit level instead of to be in the soul level.
Well, I think that what you, that what you said was great. I think it's, yeah,
because you're, you're talking about, you know, I'm so glad that this is,
this is who we are, that God says this and God says that. And, and,
and, and et cetera. So it's affirming the truth. And,
and another thing that really helps if she's talking about her own self and
it's not about your circumstances, didn't you talk about her circumstances,
then, then it's affirming her in,
but how do I say it's taking truth and making it personal to her.
Right. About the truth. That's true for all of us.
And then talking about how she specifically,
how you see certain things about her and the spirit that are like this.
And you don't even have to talk about it in spiritual terms. Yeah.
That's another thing. It,
because sometimes when we talk about things in spiritual terms,
it can kind of, uh, turn on this spiritual, uh,
the spiritual file in our mind. Everybody goes, yes, yes.
I'll start saying the right godly things and we're not living them anyway.
So we've all now been, we're all of a sudden the conversations turns to this,
this, this formula and this vocabulary that we all know to
use.
And nobody's helped because there's a reason why we all know it and nobody,
but people aren't believing it.
So it kind of shifts us into that box where we know the right things to say,
but nobody's believing it. So we have to kind of,
so it's sometimes good to even not talk about it in spiritual terms. I do that.
There's this particular person that I talk to all the time that, uh,
that does this, that they're always talking about the enemy.
And so I finally have noticed that what makes that, that, yeah,
with them, a lot of times I am talking about the spiritual stuff,
but I talk about it in terms of, um, how much God loves them,
how much I see this in them. And Oh my word, you're like this.
And I just so admire this and dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah.
And it's always touched me and it's touched my spirit.
And I really appreciate the fact that, you know, when you say this,
that and the other, you know,
it really touches me and it means a lot to me. And, um, I sense God's,
God's presence whenever you talk like this. And I sensed it. In other words,
I'm affirming them in something that just kind of makes the,
their spirit start to realize it and remember their identity because all
the things we're remembering our identity and remember our identity.
It doesn't even have to be specific to the situation that they're talking about
related to how the enemy's attacking them.
It can seem like it's in a totally different area,
but the whole reason why they're struggling with the enemy is because they've
lost their sense of identity. So my goodness,
we could talk about their identity in so many different vocabulary words that
have nothing whatsoever to do with the fact that the enemy's attacking their
children or the enemy's attacking their marriage or whatever other things that
you hadn't said that you and, and she, you mentioned, you mentioned some words.
You said children, marriage. I don't remember what else she mentioned,
but they don't even have to be talked about.
It could just be talked about like who she is and the fact that God loves her,
that any of us that are struggling with spiritual warfare,
we do not believe that God loves us as much as he actually does as good as he
actually is. Yeah. Yeah.
It's very basic things that have nothing whatsoever to do with the fact that
someone's talking about how the enemy is attacking their children's,
I don't know, health or whatever her, her issue was. I don't know.
I don't know what it is,
but so it sounds like it's talking about nothing whatsoever to do with the
child, nothing whatsoever to do about health.
And yet it's actually spiritually addressing the exact problem that she has
that's got her thinking like this. So it's dealing with the root issue.
Does that, does that make sense?
Yeah, it helps so much. And you just reminded me of something.
I remember that the Lord showed me like way back when, and it was like,
it was a pastor and he was talking about because he loves you, he will rescue.
you and I remember hearing that and being like I never equated him rescuing
me with his love it was always because I'm in the right place at the right
time doing what I'm supposed to do he will rescue me you know it was always
like you good get good do bad bad and but that is so true it really is when
you go because he loves me he will not fail me like I will whatever this is he
loves me he will he has overcome this I'm just gonna learn what my inheritance
is in this spot and apply it or whatever whatever your like verbiage is for that
that really is so much of the root of it and no I think that helps a lot thank
you so much the biggest thing the biggest help that we can get to anyone
whether it be a child a parent of ours a client a peer a pastor's wife you know
whoever it is is always to talk to their spirit not the situation yeah she's
talking about the situation well the root of that is the fact that the spirit
isn't believing or the soul isn't believing where the spirit actually is
that it's actually easy and they can't get mad yeah you're not talking about
the issue at all so it's not like you're talking about the issue in a way that
they actually disagree with you're not talking about you're just talking about
wonderful they are now you always say it in a way where it's relative to the
conversation like not like hey I'm like talking about different subjects now you
know you're a very good conversationalist Holly you know how to
like but if you do that that's really what everybody wants that's what
settling everyone's spirit all of this other stuff is behavioral problems
because we have a sense of a loss of identity and because we have a sense of
a loss of identity we have all these behavioral problems that we're using in
order to try to get back the identity that we lost but if we regain that
identity the behavioral problems go away and it didn't matter for you know two or
fifty five yeah it's just all the same thing yeah and then we always change and
if we ever have any difficulty and I'm just throwing this out there because
this is not the situation for you with the person you're talking about that I'm
just gonna tie a relationship with to other people we talked to that might
feel unlovable or unlikable it's this it if we change like for instance if we're
struggling to see someone in the spirit so easily because maybe they don't talk
in spiritual terms and we're really struggling yeah but how good how can I
affirm them and who they are in the spirit because my goodness they're doing
all these other things yeah I know but it's not what they do that determines
who they are and it doesn't even indicate who they are we have to see
someone actually in the spirit so we have to change our perspective in how
we're seeing someone and when we do naturally everything that we do in
relationship to that person and everything that we say will naturally be
good and it will naturally be appropriate in this situation because
we're always seeing them correctly so in other words if we all change ourselves
and how we view ourselves and other people what our behavior will change
what it is that we say and what we do will naturally change without us having
to work for thinking of the right thing to do or say because we've changed what
we believe and we've changed how we see other people then we naturally do and
say everything correctly you know run that out there I'm really expanding on
the question and saying by the way run into this situation with someone we
don't like it's really hard to see you know who they are in the spirit that's
what we can do we just work on ourselves not on them and then we can actually see
who they are who they are in their spirit and I had to do that with them
people that were oh my word that was so very difficult to like or to love once I
saw him in the spirit and I changed myself everything changed so I loved
them no matter what they said to me and then they started reacting according to
who it is that I was it was declining to be and seeing them in there in my mind
yes anyway anyway thank you thank you so it is 850 I'm good on time so if
anyone has another question feel free to ask otherwise you know everyone can call
I can call it a night I just didn't want anyone to think like on does anyone else
have a question I'm it's going to sleep
big day all right there was one thing I wanted to say though but oh
But you know what, I think I'm just going to do that in a lot because it was actually. Yeah, I think I'm just going to do that a lot.
What's good to see everybody and I will. So in other words, good news for those of you who consider it good news and
Will will be able to continue this very good. Y'all feel free to sign up for the again that the rest of the private sessions that y'all that y'all have left
And hopefully to do that. If y'all want to. Some of you may not want to. If you do, just feel free to do that and
Yeah, and then I got some good. I've got some new business topics that I'll be bringing up that I'm excited about. So we'll be seeing those in lives coming up. Hopefully, hopefully I'll be able to do the first one tomorrow.
Well, I love y'all. It's good to see y'all.
Yeah, thank you.
Thank you, Ashley. Yeah, thank you.
Bye.
Bye bye.