Okay.
Hey, Steph.
Oh, Steph and Cheryl.
Oh, there we go.
Okay.
How are you doing, Cheryl?
Good.
How are you?
Doing good.
Hey.
Hey, there.
There's a delay in the audio.
I saw you were live about,
that you did a live about soap.
About how you got the, got the lemon soap.
Is that new?
For Young Living?
It is. Yeah.
They rolled it out a couple months ago.
Okay.
Yeah.
It's my first time trying it.
And so it's really good.
It's like sweet and floral and lemony.
It's not overpowering, but it's like.
And it's refreshing.
Yeah.
Well, that's nice.
Yeah.
That's really nice. Cause I know that, that,
I don't know.
And so I try to avoid the thieves, which is fine because I actually do.
I do the Norwex for my cleaning.
I got started on that. Like, I don't know, four or five years ago.
And I've loved it.
So I haven't honestly even tried that the other ones.
Cause I like the Norwex.
I just like to just clean my water and my cloth.
I don't know.
I haven't even tried the Norwex for the cleaning.
But yeah.
The thieves.
The clove I have to be careful of.
And so I haven't even tried like the cleaning stuff.
So it's exciting that they have something really nice smelling like.
Yeah.
And this one, I think, isn't going to dry.
Cause it has aloe and some other things to be more.
Cause the thieves, so it can kind of dry my skin out.
I have really great.
I'm excited about it.
Yeah.
Good.
Hey, Priscilla.
How are you doing?
Hey, I'm good. Sorry.
I'm in the dark.
Okay.
That's fine.
That's fine. People don't have to do video.
And stuff was on here and we've lost stuff.
I hope that everything's okay. Technologically.
But how are you doing?
I'm doing good. And no, I meant like, I'm literally in.
Yeah.
I figured you're literally in the dark. Yeah.
Carrie was in the dark the other day.
We were laughing about it.
Turn left onto Pennsylvania six 25 South.
Are you driving?
Yes, I am.
Oh, good night. I'm sorry.
No, it's fine. It's actually kind of nice.
Yeah.
It's nine and my kids are still up.
Oh, I know.
Oh my.
You know, good luck tomorrow.
But yeah, Monty,
we might have a little bit of an issue because he loves to talk to
strangers. So.
Hello to him.
Hey, good to see you. This is my first time seeing you without a tennis bill.
Yeah.
Yes, I actually showered. I actually showered, so it feels good. I was a little sticky the last couple times we talked, so.
Yes, so Renee and I were visiting earlier today, and I was joking about the fact that I always see her with her tennis visor on, because she's been playing tennis since she was 12.
She's very good at it. I told her, as well, I enjoy playing tennis, but I'm not up to that caliber yet.
But anyway, we were joking about the fact that every time I see her, she looks really puffy.
She'll say, she should go to Harvard or something. She'll wear tennis, you know, a tennis gear on. Do you have a tennis skirt?
Yeah, I have lots of tennis skirts.
Yeah, you do.
Well, it's a little bit easier to play, just anyway, than shorts, for me.
Yeah.
But I wear shorts, too, but mostly I wear tennis skirts, so.
Yeah.
Yeah, a friend of mine, my friend who plays tennis, she has a, she wears a tennis skirt, and so she was telling me about what she gets hers from.
Oh, Steph, you're back.
We lost you for a second, and now you're here. Is everything okay?
You look like you're in the dark.
Yeah, I don't know. It does look like she's.
I know, because it shows that her microphone and her video are on, and yet I don't hear or see.
Well, it doesn't have her name, so maybe.
Who's Destiny?
Well, like Priscilla, it doesn't look like she's joined with video yet, and so, but Steph looks like maybe she has.
Yeah, connectivity issues.
She's gone.
Oh, it sounds like her connectivity is bad. Oh, poor thing. I caught that much before she left, and then I kicked her off again.
Well, we can get started. Does anyone have, and then for the feedback, because there tends to be a feedback when there's more than one person on,
I'll probably just have everyone muted, and then whoever wants to ask a question can just unmute themselves.
I've noticed that when we watch the videos later that that kind of helps, so.
I don't have a question. I've got lots of questions, but this is y'all's time, so I won't pester you with my questions.
So does anyone have anything that they wanted to, any thought that they wanted to start out with, anything that had been happening this week that was just kind of something that they,
I don't know, just kind of struck them in their relationship with the Lord, or that the Lord was walking them through, revealing to them about scripture, revealing to them about, you know, their transition and their shift,
or have a question about something that I touched on that you want further clarification, or something I haven't even brought up yet, and you're wondering about it,
because I've noticed that a lot of times y'all bring up questions that you think are unrelated, so you're really concerned about bringing it up, and so far we have not come across a single question that is unrelated,
because remember that what we're talking about here is a foundation, so it's a foundation of everything, so there's really not anything that I can think of that would be unrelated, so.
Anyway, the floor is open. Does anyone have anything? Oh, we got Steph again.
Ashley, I don't, this isn't a question, it's more kind of feedback from when we were messaging the other night, and you were talking about, like, actually talking my soul through releasing anxiety and whatnot, and the need for control, and allowing my spirit to heal it,
and that was really helpful to me, like, several times the next day when things would come, when it would kind of rear its head again, I would just, you know, soul, it's okay to let it go, and that was really helpful, so thank you.
All right, I appreciate the feedback. Thanks. Yeah, I've noticed that no one's ever told me that before, and the Lord just kind of gave me a vision. I think I explained that to y'all last year, gave me a vision about it, and I thought, oh my word, that's how it works.
So interesting. So I tried to apply it, so I'm like, okay, well, all I've seen is a vision. I get the idea that the spirit, oh, I'm sorry, let me, you know, everybody.
that the spirit understands what to do,
and the soul doesn't usually know,
unless you go through a lot of work for the soul to figure it out.
If the soul just gets out of the way and tell the soul,
hey, look, you're just fine,
there's no reason to fear,
it's all okay, and then the spirit come in and do it,
then the Lord will begin to shift us without us even knowing.
Yeah, I appreciate and I'm glad that it was helpful to you too.
I've noticed that that right there so far has been one of
the biggest things for my clients as it was for me too.
It's like, oh my word, something so simple that I was not doing.
That right there is the application, just the shift.
What's really helpful is the fact we don't have to do anything,
we just have to stop resisting.
I'm glad that's helpful.
I know it's helpful for me too.
Okay, just let it go.
Just the fact that whatever is going on,
that I don't need to hold it up to an expectation,
that I no longer need to think that whatever is happening,
shouldn't be happening and just understand that,
okay, well, this is the way that it's acting.
Stop thinking it should be something different.
Then just releasing it and then the Lord can come through
and mostly transform me because that's the biggest issue.
Then from that, then he can transform the outside circumstances sometimes.
Am I coming through clear enough or am I jumping?
Am I fine?
Okay, good.
I wanted to make sure because my screen is jumping
and I have noticed it do that sometimes and I don't know why.
I think my computer maybe needs a little bit of rest.
We all need rest, including objects.
Anyway, thanks for the feedback.
I'm glad that that helped you too.
Every single person that I've talked through,
boom, that all of a sudden does it for them and they switch.
I know, isn't it though?
It's like, oh, wow, why didn't we learn this in Sunday school, right?
I need to start teaching my nieces that.
Like, they're in four.
I'm going to have to start teaching them that.
Yeah, Renee?
I'm curious.
You said you had a vision.
Like, I missed that call.
I would love to hear.
Or when you said the Lord kind of revealed that to you, what actually did he?
I mean, if you can put it in word or picture, you know what I'm saying?
Or did you already share that with everybody?
No, no, no, that is, it's completely open for repeating.
It actually was a, I'm trying to remember,
I don't remember if this was an actual teaching idea or just something
that I started telling people individually as the issue came up.
But it is going to be a teaching.
And that is to make sure that everybody hears it.
And that is the fact that when I, I got a vision last year
where God showed me a full person.
He showed me a spirit, soul, and body.
And the body and soul were together.
And there was a wound.
And a wound appeared outside the body.
So the soul heard from God that God was giving the soul the opportunity
and to heal the wound.
And saying that the soul didn't have to wait on God to heal the wound.
The soul having given the authority and the power
to be able to heal its own wound.
So the soul gets out, well, I say the soul,
it was really God was saying that, hey, you being,
you spirit, soul, body being, you have the power
and the authority to be able to heal yourself.
You don't have to pray and ask me to do it.
You are already in me.
And from that position, you can do it yourself.
Because I'm teaching you to govern creation,
to have dominion over creation, including the soul.
Because the soul is creation as well.
So we have dominion over the soul.
The soul, just like the rest of creation,
is crying out, groaning for the sense of God to be revealed.
So anyway, the soul heard that direction from the Lord,
got out of the body.
I watched it.
It got out of the body.
It went over to the wound.
And it started trying to fix it.
And it started using all of these techniques
that we think of in the physical realm will fix something.
Like I think it used glue.
It used all kinds of things.
And so God, though, wasn't, didn't talk.
I could talk to the soul and it could hear me,
but it couldn't hear God.
God kept having to tell me, and I was telling the soul.
So he, God kept, it was kind of.
like over the soul's shoulder, kind of telling me that won't work.
What he's doing won't work.
So I then repeat it to the soul and the soul's like, Oh, okay, well, if that won't
work, then I guess I don't know what to do.
So it leaves the wound, it gets back into the body.
And then all of a sudden, and so God was talking from this direction, in other
words, heaven, then all of a sudden from that same place where God had been
talking, that person's spirit, that being's spirit came out of heaven, took
control and Lordship and not control, but took Lordship over the wound and just
held the wound stood in in this, the spirit stood in its identity and simply
by standing, it's an idea, its identity and identifying the wound to itself, the
wound healed and those in the soul was standing there looking at it, watching
the spirit doing it going, Oh, okay.
I guess that's how it gets done.
So that's the vision that I saw.
And that's when I realized, Oh my word, the spirit, if the soul just gets out of
the way, the soul doesn't have to know how to heal.
It hasn't, doesn't have to know all the inner workings of the demonic realm and
all, it doesn't have to even know what the trauma is, let alone how to heal it.
It just needs to get out of the way.
And then the spirit can come in and take care of it.
And while the spirit is healing, if the soul is looking on learning, learning
while it's happening, not learning in order to execute, but just learning.
And so it's like, Oh, okay.
So apparently that's how you do it.
Cause he's watching it actually being healed.
So it was fascinating.
So I thought, okay, so how do I apply this?
And so I began to talk to my soul and tell my soul, okay, how do I, in other
words, I thought, how do I get my soul to stop messing with it, to realize that
it's okay.
Why does my soul keep wanting to mess with it?
Why does my soul keep wanting to put its finger in the pie?
And I realized one of the things is it's afraid.
It's afraid.
It does not feel safe with the spirit, which is why it's blocked it off.
It does not feel safe with the Lord.
It doesn't feel safe with the spirit.
It is in a state of unbelief.
So I realized, okay, I needed to tell my soul, Hey, look, you need to let go.
You were asking for a Lord.
I am actually over you.
So I am giving you a command because you were creation.
I am, even though it's me, I'm giving it, giving creation to command and I'm
telling it, you need, uh, you're okay.
You're safe.
You just need to let go of the lies that you're hanging on to.
And if you let go of the lies that you're hanging on to, you will naturally
heal because you, it is of your nature to be whole.
So let go.
So then my soul calmed down and then, and then when my, as soon as my soul comes,
it calms down, I, you can talk to your spirit and ask it to come in, but that's
more for, for the souls, um, help of consciously thinking of consciously
understanding, okay, I am making a conscious decision to invite this soul to
come in.
I am telling her not the soul, the spirit to come in and to do its work for the
spirit, to bring, um, the spirit of wisdom, for the spirit to operate with the
Lord and in its knowledge, heal the wound and the trauma that it knows that it, it
knows exists that the soul doesn't know.
And so I, sometimes you can talk to the spirit as well, but, uh, but, uh, you
don't, you don't have to, you can just tell your soul to release what it's doing
to let go of the lie.
And then naturally your spirit will move in.
We don't have to actually give our spirits instruction because our spirit is our
natural state.
If we let go of us acting in our unnatural state, which is where our soul is, um, is,
uh, believing lies.
It's not believing the truth of the Lord.
If we stop acting unlike our nature, by default, we'll act like our nature.
We don't have to try.
So it's not like we stop acting like our nature and then we're ending up in no
man's land.
And now we have to learn how to act like our nature.
No, that's default.
So as long as we stop doing the corrupted version, we can just rest and we will
naturally be the, um, will naturally be who we are.
And, uh, therefore we will naturally heal.
The spirit will naturally come in.
We don't even have to instruct our spirit to do it.
It always does it.
We're just constantly resisting it, but it's always coming down.
We're just in a constant state of resistance against it.
So now I was just curious.
I love that the Lord gave you that vision because I mean, I haven't had a vision
like that, but I think we talked about earlier a lot.
I mean, that's, I don't know, for the past couple of years, like I say, I honor you
soul.
Like, I thank you.
so much for, you serve me so well, but, and I'll ask my soul
to step aside and so that my spirit can rise up and do what
it's, you know, made to do. So, so I love that you've got this
actual visual because I was just kind of, you know, in faith,
just walking through a process of asking, you know, just when
I could feel like, whatever, anxiety, you know, whatever kind
of rises up or that you know, that that's not what you're
supposed to operate in. So I'll, you know, ask my soul to, I
mean, I do it in a way that's honoring, you know, but, but I
thank you for your service, but can you step aside so that, you
know, whatever. So, because there is, you know, until you
what you're teaching, you know, everybody until we can, you
know, live in that place constantly, which is, you know,
I don't know if anyone ever does that, you know. I mean,
that's the goal is to not have your soul continually rise up,
but to grow and take more ground and, and walking. But
anyway, I love that, that picture. So I was just curious
what, what you saw. So that's awesome.
Yeah. And that's perfect. And I like the fact that you talk
about the importance of honoring the soul, because that's always
the way in which we want to talk to it. Always want to, always
want to honor and just all of creation, honor it. It's, it's
people and things do not want, and in creation are in a state
of turmoil and anxiety and chaos because they haven't been
identified. They're looking for a Lord. They want a Lord. They
want a master, so to speak, you know, they want a king and it's
the lack of a king standing in its place that causes all of
the chaos. So when Jesus stood in front of the wind and the
waves, and he said, you know, peace be still, they calmed
down because all that they heard a king, they heard a son
of God. And if I now, now that whenever a king of a son of God
presents himself, all of creation response, because they
now know who they are simply because the son of God knows who
he is. Once the son of God knows who he is, you know, an, a son
of God, you know, one of us, then the rest of creation will
respond accordingly because they get their identification
based on their relationship to us. And if we don't know who we
are and we're not staying in our place, they don't have a
position and they don't know what's expected of them. I mean,
you can carry this into everything. You can carry this
into, and this is something that we haven't talked about
before. The importance of things like, like cleaning, cleaning
the house, you know, doing dishes. I don't know, just
various things, various things. Picking things up at retail
stores and buying them or returning them or whatever.
Sending things off to goodwill or to charity or whatever. All
of these things are telling objects and the creation around
us, this as a son of God, this is what I expect of you. I'm
telling you, this is how, you know, you're, you're serving me,
you're serving, you're serving other objects, you're serving,
you know, the environment or whatever in a spiritual sense.
And so I, as a son of God, am telling you your place. I'm
telling you what it is that I want of you right now. I like
cleaning up the house, you know, it's, it's telling dirt and
dust and, and, you know, everything else. This is what I
want you to do. This is, this is, it's, it's, it's, I'm
cleaning a house and it is serving it and it is providing
what the house needs. It's providing Lordship and kingship
over it so that it in turn can serve us. The problem is when,
from, if we're not standing in our, in our understanding that
we are sons of God, and then we're cleaning or the fact that
we're not standing in our, in our position of sons of God, and
we're buying things or exchanging things or cleaning,
cleaning out our closets and sending stuff to goodwill. If
we're not doing it from the correct position, then we are,
then we are actually, we're actually serving it. That's why
we feel drained. That's why we feel that it's work is because,
which is where we get that, that expression, the more
possessions you own, the more your possessions own you. It's
from an attitude of, I am using, I'm using things, using
things, not from a sense of Lordship, using them as, as a,
like abusing them. And that's not what a king would do. And
sorry, I'm trying to say this as succinctly as possible,
because I realized that now that some of the wording that
I'm using might, might sound a little confusing. But anyway,
so basically the point is that the attitude, the attitude
behind it will change whether we are, whether we are
identifying to creation what we want it to do.
And we're not drained when we clean, when we take care of our children, when we run errands, or if we're drained because we're actually
We're actually feeling run by those things. We're feeling out of control and we're not standing in our lordship over creation, over our lives, etc.
So anyway, don't know how we got off on that. But, oh, because you were talking about honoring. So I loved the fact that you're talking about honoring
Okay, really interesting side note to bring in. I don't know if y'all have heard of Marie Kondo, you know, the KonMari method, the life changing magic of tidying up.
Found that absolutely fascinating. She is, for those of you who don't know, she is a little Japanese lady who has it on her heart to organize the whole world.
And basically declutter it, but her idea is not minimalism. Her idea is based off of what sparks joy in us. In other words, what things do we have in our lives around us that actually prompt
Or that actually reflect our spirits. Now she doesn't know that, but you know it's reflecting of our spirits.
What sparks joy. What things are we supposed to based off of our, our spirits unique connection with the Lord, which is called our identity.
That's our identity is actually the point at which our spirit uniquely connects with God's spirit, which is why everybody's identity is different.
And, and it can't be defined the expression of our identity can be defined, but not our identity itself. Anyway,
And so it's how our spirits are uniquely supposed to be a king and a Lord in in
In the way that God intended us to, again, as unique individuals. What sparks joy. So we know what we're supposed to bring into our lives, what things that we're supposed to govern over and then what things you know can be given to somebody else to govern over
Um, and one of the things that she talks about is when she talks about decluttering things she's talking about getting rid of them.
She, she is, of course, a bit of a very traditional Japanese religious mindset. She believes in animism, which is, you know, the belief that objects are living and that and
And and I do you know and what is it called Africa in Africa. That's a really big religious mindset in Africa as well.
The fact that things are are are beings with like almost like everything has a soul.
Like, even if it's a like if it's a bottle of vitamins. It has a soul. If it's a purse. It has a soul that kind of an idea.
And, and while I don't agree with that. I do believe that it is all creation that responds to that responds to a son of God, and therefore it does need to be honored. It is looking for
And it is looking for a son of God to identify it and its function and how it can be a service. And that's what we're called to do in the same way that Adam was required was was given the animals by God to name them.
We name various aspects of creation constantly throughout our lives. We're constantly identifying things to itself of, hey, look, this is who you are. This is how you're supposed to serve me.
And anyway, so she talks about when you're decluttering. It's important to grab ahold of the thing. If you decide to get rid of it.
And to tell it. Thank you for your service. You know, you've done such a good job. And now I send you off somewhere else.
And while I don't agree with all of that, there's an interesting aspect. Remember, Satan always has a counter to God's truth.
So there is a way in which we should be honoring things, but not honoring them in the way it as as animus honor things, but really an honor of
We're the king. We're kings and we don't need to abuse our subjects. They simply wanted to serve us. It's like a dog. A dog just wants to know how on earth to make you happy.
Dogs sole purpose in life is focus is how can I make you happy. Will you be happy with me kind of a thing. Are we going to go for a walk. Can we go on a walk, you know, get so excited. Nothing is more excited to see you then than a dog.
And except maybe a three year old. Anyway, it's I found her perspective, very fascinating. Again, it's Satan, the state as a panic.
Sounds really strong, but a incorrect counter to God's truth of the fact that we should be honoring things we shouldn't be abusing them.
And so it's kind of a counter to God's truth of the fact that we should be honoring things we shouldn't be abusing them.
Like for instance, she talks about the fact to give you an idea about how how
first home when she comes home from work. She recommends
Literally taking everything out of the purse, because the purse has been working hard all day.
And you put everything in in a proper place like your keys and your wallet and whatever all of that has a proper place in like a drawer or something. And then you and then you
And then you take you take your purse and you just kind of, I don't know. I think she's basically like petted a rabbit or talk to and talk to and tell it. Thank you so much. You've worked so hard today. I want you to rest.
I don't want you to hold these things all the time. And then to have a special place for your purse. I think that's a little too far.
My point is that she goes that far into thinking, oh, this is how we need to honor something. Well, I disagree with that.
The, the, all I liked and under that is the first place in which God began to introduce me to the idea of giving something honor
Talking kindly to things and treating things well instead of just abusively walk around just like throwing things we've all known that that wasn't right.
But we haven't quite known why, other than the fact that, oh, well, that's just, that's just lazier that's cluttering, you know, there's, there's a there's a deeper reason than that. It's not a kingly behavior.
And it's important not to get too far because again they serve us. We don't serve them, but it's important.
In order for them to be able to be equipped and stand in their position and their function to serve us. They have to be they have to be identified and have to be honored as well. That's our
That's our mandate as kings that are actually reflecting the character of our father. So that was very long and
Deep explanation of the whole honor thing, but I'm glad that you mentioned that because you're absolutely right. It's important for us to honor honor our soul when we talk to it.
And honor other people when we talk to them, people naturally when they're healed. Everybody wants to do the right thing. People don't want to
Do evil if they're actually healed.
Anyway, oh, hey, you're not in the car anymore.
There we go. I'm not needed anymore.
So I feel like I'm taking things are like a completely different direction, but I have a question about
How do you know
If like something that you're planning to do or even thinking about doing. How do you know
If the anxiety that you're feeling is because you shouldn't do that thing or because you're just not in the right place.
Yeah, I mean,
Good question. Oh, yeah. Okay.
So it's
Okay, trying to think about how to go at this. So when I'm okay so let me tell you a story real quick about how the show me
Huh.
I promise I'm listening. I'm just like can listen better when I'm working so
Yeah, that's great. Um, so, um, I was at the store.
One time, and I was trying to make a decision between a couple of different things. One was less expensive one was more expensive and I was trying to determine, okay, which is the right decision to make.
And again, not according. I was trying to be careful. Okay, I can't do this according to the knowledge of the tree, the tree, the knowledge of an evil. I need to do it according to the spirit. What
In the spirit. What decision should I be making here. And I thought, okay, so let's walk myself through this. So I thought, okay, this one over here, the cheaper one that one felt comfortable and familiar
The more expensive one did not feel comfortable and it felt very unfamiliar. It's very unfamiliar territory to spend money like that.
So it wasn't horribly expensive. It was, it just felt like, oh, well, surely I could get away with the cheaper option, you know, surely that would function, according to the capacity that I was that I was needing from it and
So, but I thought, okay, so that's comfort and or yeah comfortability and and being uncomfortable and then familiar and unfamiliar. But then I thought, okay, but what is my spirit say
I thought, okay, my, where is my peace and where is my fear in the end. And so I was looking for peace. Where do I feel peace and I noticed that in the end.
That the reason why I looked at the inexpensive one and I felt fear. That was the reason why I wanted to take that that the cheaper option is because I thought, that's the one I'm supposed to.
And so I thought about, I thought, oh my word, there's fear in there. But the only way that I recognized it because fear so familiar to me. Again, that's comfortable and familiar fear was so familiar. I had to find peace before I recognize that as fear. So I looked at the other one and figured out, okay, well, how do I feel about this. Do I feel peace.
And so I thought, okay, so that's the reason why I wanted to take that that the cheaper option is because I thought, that's the one I'm supposed to.
And all of a sudden I thought, oh my word, that's where I feel my peace.
My peace was in, okay, this is going to sound a little confusing, but my peace was where
my fear was.
So even though I was talking about the fact that this was where my fear was, I realized
that the reason why this was uncomfortable and it was unfamiliar is because this is,
and I felt fear here.
I was like, oh my word, that's too much money.
I really shouldn't, I don't know that I should do that.
So that when I was first looking at the what's comfortable and uncomfortable and familiar
and unfamiliar, that is when I first recognized this one feels uncomfortable because I'm afraid.
But when I looked into, but I realized that all that's in my soul, then I went into a
deeper measure and I looked, then I looked for a spiritual fear versus, and it's not
a spiritual fear because in the spirit there is no fear, but my point is that I went to
a deeper level and decided, okay, well, where is my peace?
And I realized, okay, so I'm thinking about this one.
How do I feel?
Then I looked at the, at the more expensive option and all of a sudden my inside came
to life.
But this one was where I'd also felt the most fear because it was, it was uncomfortable.
It was unfamiliar.
I was worried that it's probably an unwise choice.
It's probably a, it's probably irresponsible.
That was the big thing for me.
This one was irresponsible.
Why spend this money if this one will work?
Therefore this one's irresponsible.
This one, if I were to buy this one, it would define that I'm bad.
It would define that I make unwise decisions.
It would define, it would, it would determine that I, I waste money.
All of these things I had added up in my head about how to make decisions according to,
from a very soulish perspective of logic, which is according to the two trees of knowledge
of good and evil versus the tree of life.
So according to knowledge of the tree of good and evil, that was the comfortable, familiar,
uncomfortable, unfamiliar.
I was very afraid.
That was how I was determining my choice.
I was very afraid.
So I thought, okay, now that I know, according to my soul and according to the tree of knowledge
of evil, good and evil, which one I'm going to choose now, according to the tree of life,
there's my peace.
Because in God, there's nothing but peace.
And that's when, so I had to go to a deeper layer and that's when I found my peace here.
And my peace ended up being in the place of my greatest fear.
Did that answer your question or?
Yes, that answers my question.
Yeah.
I think sometimes I, yeah, I think I really struggle sometimes, especially when, when
a decision that I do make then kind of ends up seeming like the wrong one.
I think that's why I often feel like, yeah, after I make a decision and then like things
don't go well, or, you know, even maybe they're not necessarily going bad.
They're just not going like really smoothly.
My temptation then is to be like, oh, well I made the wrong choice and like now God's
mad at me and he's just letting all of these bad things happen, like to teach me a lesson
for next time, you know?
And I think I've, I've really faced that a lot in my business, um, just because of how
much stress I experienced.
And I think that's why I get so frustrated.
Like when people in direct sales are all, I get mad at people that are happy in direct
sales because I want to be them, but I'm not like, I'm just not, I have moments of happiness,
but then there's times when I'm just like, I'm so stressed out.
And then I'm wondering, okay, am I stressed out because I should never have started this
in the first place?
Or am I stressed out because I'm just not working from the right place?
Yeah.
That's one of the things that we talk about is, is understanding when we're looking at
the wind and the waves, whether it be the wind and the waves of our emotion or the wind
and the waves of the environment around us.
And we're, because according to the soul, according to the tree of the knowledge of
good and evil, which I'll be redoing a teaching on, you know, after, after we get off is,
um, uh, is, is we're looking at our environment and, and we've, we've come to, we've come,
the only way to know whether something is good or evil is if we have a standard of measure.
And one of the standards of measure that we have been taught to use is, okay, look what's
going on around you.
Are things going smoothly?
No.
Well, therefore it must be evil.
Well, that has nothing whatsoever to do with whether or not it's good or evil, but that's,
that's the standard that we've chosen because the tree of the knowledge of good and evil
is extremely limited in its ability to actually tell us what is or isn't of the character
of God.
So therefore we're looking at our emotions, we're looking at the environment, you know,
is our business.
going smoothly or, um, you know, am I making money? Am I not making money?
We can use that as a standard too.
And that has absolutely nothing to whatsoever to do with whether or not, um,
we're going in the right direction. I am personally,
I can attest from personal experience. Um, and,
and so, I mean, it's all kinds of things. It's also our emotions. Oh,
I'm feeling like this. I'm not feeling like this. It's, it's,
it's deep as, um, even, am I hearing God? Am I not hearing God?
That can also be the wind and the waves because it's our environment,
even if it's an internal environment by which we are determining whether
something's right or wrong. And God says that nothing should determine whether,
whether it's truth or error, except the word of God,
because it says that, that, that, um,
the word of God is what rightly divides, um, uh,
truth from error. So nothing else is supposed to.
So whenever we're relying on anything else, how we feel about it,
whether or not God's been talking to us lately and repeating what he told us a
few days ago or a week ago or a year ago, or, um, uh,
whether our business is going smoothly, whether we're feeling, I don't know,
whatever that's the wind and the waves. And it's, it's an,
it's an environment, um, that we're at and a standard of measure that we're
incorrectly using. So, so yeah.
Okay.
So poor Steph, it looks like she has that.
Her internet just has not been working to allow her to get back on.
Oh, did anyone have any other thoughts or feedback or,
um, what's been going, I don't know,
what the Lord has been talking to you about this week or, um, I don't know,
just, just anything, anything that maybe, um, I know haven't addressed.
So I, um,
kind of usually how I used to do my business was I would kind of map out kind
of my 90 day plan or my goals or whatever.
Um, and I still have my goal in mind, but I'm,
I've really been struggling to, I haven't come,
I don't want to say struggling cause I've not wanted to struggle. Um,
I just am at by myself right now, not really having a plan.
Um, don't know what I want to do to operate,
like what it will look like for me operating from place of rest.
And so like, is that okay?
Like, is that,
is that kind of normal part of the transition kind of right now I feel a little
bit lost and I'm not, I'm not too worried about that. It was me. I,
it's hard for me to be like, that's okay to not be worried about it.
Like it feels lazy that I'm not worried about it,
but I just kind of take it one day at a time. And as I get an idea,
I implement it.
But is that all a like normal to be expected on this path?
Yes. You don't know. That's why people don't like,
that's why I don't like operating by, uh, by rest.
And that's why he chose the fruit because she could control the result.
She could control. This is what I'm going to do. It makes sense to my soul.
It's an anchor for my soul to kind of latch onto. So when you're,
when you're operating business and God hasn't given you a very clear, you know,
you know, I want you to do this and I want you to do this.
And then once you did, if he doesn't do that, which usually he doesn't,
then he just wants you to take the journey with him.
And one of the things that he wants in taking the journey with him is you
bringing yourself to the table. Okay. Well, you know, what are some ideas?
And, and, and, uh, what would I maybe, you know,
just kind of brainstorm and dream. In other words,
Oh, I like my business to look like, okay, what do I feel like doing right now?
Would I like to, uh, do I like creating Facebook posts?
Do I like creating Facebook videos? Well, even if I do,
what do I like doing them about, um,
what comes naturally to you as far as your natural spirit,
what your spirit is naturally drawn to, um, not, uh,
what comes natural is in like what you do and don't have experience then,
because obviously when you're moving into new areas, well,
then you're not going to have experience in them. So, I mean that, so it's,
it's just what comes natural is in what's in your heart that you'd like to
try, what are you naturally drawn to, and then try those things.
And they're not all going to work out the way you thought or the way you wanted.
But as part of
A journey. It's going to interweave into the fabric and it's going to be part of what makes what you end up doing what it ends up looking like
Because it was influenced in your path to get there was influenced by you having taken this pit stop at trying this one thing.
Or in the same weather that did or didn't work. I remember, for instance, you know, Edison tried 1000 things before he found the light bulb on it, you know, and I
Don't worry, you're not gonna have to try 1000. My point is, I don't want to say that sounds discouraging. My point is it's it's just part is part of the journey. So yeah, you feel you you're listening to the Lord as you go along.
And you are, you're just kind of seeing. Remember what we were talking about with this spirit where the spirit spirit never is stagnant. So you're in God's spirit.
You're in him and he's in you and you're in him and he's constantly flowing as a being. He never ever
Is the same from one moment to the next. As far as the fact that spirit flows. And yes, he's the same yesterday and today and forever. But remember, just like a river is always a river, but it never looks the same in any given moment.
That's what it's it's water and it's constantly moving. And so it's going to be moving and expressing itself in a slightly different way.
It's the same thing with the spirit. So the spirit is moving and if you allow yourself to abide in him.
Well, then he that spirit and that flow is constantly going to be flowing through you and then your spirit is constantly undulating and flowing through through you.
And so it never looks the same in any given moment. So just allow yourself to move into transition as opposed to locking things down in order to control it.
Even for your soul to just allow yourself inside to just to just flow into just move and decide, I'm going to try this. I'm going to try that. And you remember that
That that's how I started the April intensive
It came up with an idea and 15 minutes later I had it posted publicly on my Facebook and I committed my month to it publicly
So I'm publicly making a journey that you know people could see if I changed it. In fact, I just found. In fact, I was just contacted by a business friend of mine.
That
Today that he does. He does a lot of what I used to do. He does process improvement and business consulting for like very large
Larger corporations or larger companies were just look at the whole thing that they're doing. And so he contacted me today and he said, actually, he said, I've watched how your message has changed over the month.
Like, yeah, it has that is not commendable in the business world. And yet he commended me for it. He said, that is amazing.
He said, most people don't do that. Most people don't allow themselves to to move and change and be flexible.
Because obviously, you know, we're taught that consistency is so valuable that and that you have to have total and stagnation.
In order for something to be viewed as valuable or credible and it's not true. That is how you operate according to the tree of the knowledge of an evil where you're trying to control results and use formulas and everybody else can have these stagnant
Standards of measure by which to measure whether or not you're being professional or whether or not you're a good business, whether or not you have value to offer in whatever you want people like that.
You just want, you know, you want to flow with the spirit and then attract people that are attracted by your spirit and that's never going to look at the same from one moment to the next, including the decision making process.
So I have, I have been flowing in the spirit and executing in the spirit publicly where things change for moment to moment case in point my live last night.
I got I locked down. It had taken me a while to actually get to the point of like, no, I'm I it was I was trying to sense in the spirit. Should I do the lies or should I do pre recorded
And I and I was going back and forth literally for days and finally thought, actually, you already know the answer.
You're really feeling it in the spirit and yet you keep doubting it, you know, better than that. Stop doubting it. So I finally decided this is what I'm going to do. And I gave myself a deadline.
Problem was that I couldn't shift into the spirit and then I thought I did right before the call or for the call right for the live in the end.
And then, but, but I lost it pretty quick and then and I shifted into the soul and I went into execution mode. I'm sorry. I think that's a
Raccoon or something at my door and went into kind of execution and agenda mode thinking, okay, I need to make sure that all of this information and material.
gets processed through. Then, so I went into my soul, and then I couldn't ever get back
into my spirit. So, but I didn't know that, and I didn't recognize that until after. Like,
I don't know, maybe it was like an hour after the live, because I kept asking the Lord,
what was that, what's going on, and finally He showed me. So, you know, in the middle
of the intensive, you know, with all of y'all live, I jump online and tell you, by the way,
I was totally operating this soul, so guess what, we're going to redo that teaching. You
know, so you're going to get, you're going to watch the fact that a so-called professional
messed up and is having to redo it. And I'm perfectly fine with that, because I understand,
okay, that's not how I want to do it. I want to do it like this, and that is how I'm choosing
to do my business. And if somebody else, and if people want something that's more consistent
and according to the tree of the knowledge of an evil, and well, we want it to hit these
particular standards, and we want it to look like this, because this makes me feel safe,
well then they'll have to choose something else. So, I'm learning, I'm taking this journey
with y'all, and this is what your businesses are free to look like. This is, I will choose
living my life like this, than my business being successful, than me having money, because
trust me, in operating in my business like this, trying to learn this, I have gotten
down to, you know, I've been trying to, I've been operating like this for months. And at
one point, I got down to $6.54, and no money coming in, and all kinds of stuff. And I was
talking to my brother about it, and I told him, and I had bills coming up. I thought,
Brendan, I don't know if my car is going to be repossessed. I've never been under threat
of that before. And I was like, oh, you know, Brendan, I don't know. And then I told him,
I said, but you know what, I will take this life. I am in the middle of like, the worst
fear that one could imagine, that I could imagine, so to speak. I am in the possibility
of the biggest threat that I can imagine. And yet, I mean, as far as like my finances
or whatever, and yet, I in this place, I still choose to operate like this, because I am
now living in more spiritual freedom. I choose to operate like this, with, with, even if
I don't have success in business, even if I don't have success in relationships, even
if I don't have success in finances, I will choose this life. But that's what I chose.
I'm choosing to operate like this. And that's why I'm doing my business like this. Not because
I'm choosing to operate my business like this, but because I'm choosing to live like this.
And God said, I want you to start a business. So therefore, I'm going to be doing my business,
business in the way I like to live. So, um, it's, it's not, um, it's not always, it's
not easy for our soul. And it's very counter to what we're used to, where we're like, shouldn't
I have a plan? You know, I had someone reach out to me the other day, Hey, Ashley, I was
wondering if you could help me write my business plan. I had to tell him, I'm sorry, I don't
do that anymore. You want to contact somebody else because I don't help people with business.
And I have this one person that continues to, to hound me about helping them with business
strategy. And I have to tell him, I'm sorry, I don't do that anymore. If you want to learn
how to operate your business from a place of rest, I do that now. But, um, other people
are given the grace to teach other people, those tools, there's nothing wrong with those
tools, but I wanted to choose to operate out of rest. So it looks and feels like what you're
describing where you're thinking, surely something's wrong. Surely I'm supposed to know, surely,
you know, and those are just those old paradigms that we're having to get rid of and, and understand
that we're no longer held to, yes, it's supposed to look like this. The one thing that I would
encourage you to do now is trust yourself. Because if you're like me, you may not be
used to trusting yourself. Maybe, and you may not be like this, but me, if, when I was,
if I was, um, in your position, but back when I was operating according to the tree of knowledge
of good and evil, I wasn't doing anything unless God told me. I wasn't moving. I wasn't
moving forward. I wasn't moving backward. I wouldn't, I would not do anything until
God said to do something. And that's because I didn't trust myself. I had been, I basically
received the information that, or the understanding that I couldn't make wise decisions, that
I couldn't come up with good ideas that would be successful. I couldn't come up with ideas
in business or on Facebook.
people would like, or people would respond to. And I, and I was just like, okay, Lord, I'm,
I'm your servant. I'm your good little servant. And God said, I don't want a servant.
I want a son. I want someone who will love me just like I love him. And I want, and the only
way you can love me is if you do it out of free will. And as if you're in, if you're bringing
yourself and your desires and your heart and your wants to the table and presenting them
as part of the discussion, not as a, not as a, you know, and as the, as part of the primary
discussion, not as well, you know, kid, Lord, you know, we're passing a bill here. You know,
can I tack this on as a writer? No, it's got to be part of the, part of the actual,
part of the actual full-blown discussion. And God likes that. So you may, you may already have,
may already be operating like that, but I just wanted to encourage you that I wasn't.
And I would have, and when I first started operating in rest, I had to learn that he
actually valued my opinion and he called me to present that as part of our mutual discussion.
So anyway, I may not, you may not have needed that, but maybe somebody who will watch this
live later. I totally can. Yeah, exactly. When you jumped on and said that show, I was like,
that's how I feel. Like, if I'm not worrying about my business, I feel irresponsible.
Like, I feel like I'm just off in dreamland. And I know like growing up, my family really
looked down on people who like, we called them fly by nights, basically like people with no plan
and they just flew by the seat of their pants their whole life. And, you know, looking back
though, now I see that those people had a lot of close calls, but there were never really any
real disasters. And I feel like I lived my life in a lot of anxiety and so did my family.
And it was interesting. I was just talking to one of my friends the other day and I was saying how,
you know, like my husband and I grew up two very different lifestyles, his family,
they had very little as far as financially. But my husband never worried about money going out.
Never. Like he was never stressed out about money. He wasn't worried about anything like that. Sorry,
my phone just said it's fine. But, and I grew up, we were financially, you know, pretty stable and,
but my parents argued about money a lot and they're in a much better place now, but
I had a lot of financial anxiety growing up and it's just so weird, like the difference between
those two. But yeah, back to the question that Cheryl asked. I feel like that has been one of
my biggest struggles is I feel like just when I'm ready to just really work from rest, all of a
sudden I'm like, I can just see myself in three months with my business standing in ruins. And
I'm just like, that was not a good plan. That's just my fear. Like that's kind of, yeah, where
am I? Yeah. So rest is not inactivity. Rest is the state of being in which we understand that God
is providing the increase. The farmer is sowing the seed. Then he goes to bed, he sleeps, he wakes
up, the crop comes up and he doesn't know how. And the Bible talks about that because God wants
to provide the increase and operating according to the tree of knowledge of an evil is us wanting
to provide the increase. God wants to provide the increase and he wants to father us into how to
govern the increase. But we don't actually have to worry about providing the increase. So, and
in governing it, it's from a place of rest because remember that creation naturally without our
effort responds to a son of God who knows who he is, which is why in business, the most important
thing is to understand who we are and stand in that identity. It's why we've been talking, you
know, for y'all's first week, that why the first week is filled with, I'm talking about understanding
and standing in the extent and continuing to push into further measures of the depth of
God's love and the extremity, the wild passion of his love, and then also understanding our oneness
with him. Because when a son of God does not know who he is, he cannot govern his business
from a place of rest. He cannot govern his business as a son of God. He's because he
doesn't understand that his, who he is, and so creation doesn't know how to respond to him.
And therefore, he has to work to get creation to do something. But when he is who he is,
the creation natural and he just identifies the creation around him,
including business because business is a part of creation.
It's just a part of the metaphysical, so to speak.
Because business, the purpose of business, which I'll mention, I'll just touch on really
quick, because this is coming later, but the purpose of business is the movement of money.
It's not money.
It's the movement of money.
It's constantly keeping a flow, just like spirit is constantly in a flow, and that breathes
life, that breathes life.
Constant flow breathes life.
Scientifically, if something at its very, very core stops moving, like the atoms, the
quarks, everything, if everything stops moving, that's the scientific definition of death.
In order to have life, you must have constant movement and constant flow.
This is the same thing, that the purpose of business is to facilitate movement, which
breathes life.
Anyway, I'm trying to remember how I got off on all of that, because we were talking about
feeling irresponsible.
Yeah, if you're not operating from a place of rest, so again, rest is not an activity.
It's just a state of being, understanding that God provides the increase, we just govern
it.
We have to know who it is that we are first, and when we know who we are, creation, including
our business, will naturally respond to being led by a Lord and a King, who understands
and knows and is standing in his position as the Son of God, and it will naturally know
what to do.
We don't have to, in fact, people can govern creation without even knowing how that aspect
of creation is supposed to function.
In our spirit, we can identify it, and it will respond naturally, and we'll just stand
by and watch it.
So it's kind of interesting how that works, but yeah.
So does anyone have a question before we jump off?
Just can't wait.
Is everyone good?
Okay, well, it's good to see everybody.
I will talk to y'all, well, it'll be next Thursday.
I'll be dropping some more.
I'm about to get on a live for doing some more teachings, and then some of y'all, I'll
be seeing in your private sessions, so I'll talk to y'all later.
Okay, bye-bye.
Bye.