You
...
You
lives, and that sort of thing. So if you talk about that, and
You
just kind of what the extent of our authority over human souls
You
actually is. So that's my question for the evening.
You
Okay, yeah, sure. Yeah, I'll also answer that. In fact, I can
You
start with that. How are you doing, Priscilla?
You
I'm good. I'm
filling a craving.
Um, yeah, so sure, Amy. So, in fact, I was expecting this
question, but the, the, the teaching was it last night, I
guess was just by that time covering everything that I was
trying to cover it was already at an hour. So I didn't even
cover that part. But so yes, very good question. So yes, it's
not like you said, it's not manipulation, because
manipulation, in other words, and the forcing of our will on
someone else's is as the sin of witchcraft. And so obviously,
yeah, you're right. That's not what it what it is. But it's
doing, you know, kind of, it sounds like what it is that you
were doing with your relative, which is just simply talking to
a soul, which is an aspect of creation that we may not have
that we don't have the same. I don't know what you would call
it authority over, so to speak, is that person's own spirit. But
they're because it is creation. And because we're all want our
spirits are all one with the Lord, then it we it can still
respond to a son of God, it can still hear a son of God and
respond to it and kind of kind of like jolt itself awake. And
hey, Steph, how you doing? I'm good. And good. I like I like
your new hair. I like your hair color. Your new hair color
looks really good. Very summery. Getting used to it. I like it a
lot. So sorry, where did I live off? Anyway, so yes, it
will respond still to a son of God, because again, its spirit
and our spirit. Hey, Renee, and its spirit and our spirit are
one with the Lord. And we're all sons of God. So even though
that soul, that other person's soul is connected as one unit
with its spirit, and it's not connected as one unit with our
spirit. We don't have the same authority over it as the spirit
that it is one with. And yet, because we're all still one
spirit, it will respond to something that comes from God,
which when we're speaking in our spirit, we do. So as an
aspect of creation, it needs a Lord, it needs a king, it needs
to hear the spirit of the Lord speak. And it will. And as
something that was created to be lorded over, it feels comfort,
it feels the spirit has an authority to identify in a way
not the same authority as that person's own spirit. But we
intercede for each other. We stand in the gap for each other.
What do they call it? It was that a parable that Jesus spoke
where he was talking about the watchman. Was that in one of the
prophets? I don't remember. But there's an element of being a
watchman and standing in the gap for someone else. That is what
I'm talking about. So you're right. It's not the
manipulation. It's just simply calling somebody out,
identifying them, talking to this person, not to this person,
not to the broken person that they're presenting themselves
as, but talking to them as if they're up here. They're like,
hey, look, I recognize who you are in this spirit. And I'm
talking to that person. And then so the soul realizes, oh,
that's apparently who I am. That's my name. I just recognize
it because something of the Lord is calling out to me. And so
then the soul can choose on its own whether or not it wants to
rise to that position because they have to own it themselves.
But that's what it is. I hope that that answers your question.
If it doesn't, you can chime in and let me know. Or you can ask
me later, either on a private session or in the comments.
But that's, oh, there you are. Did that answer? Good. Okay.
Yeah. So that's what that is. Yeah. So and it sounded like you
did a really great job in being able to talk to your, talk to
your family member and talk to their soul when you said that
they weren't even present in the room when you were doing it.
Because, again, it's all in the spirit.
We don't have to physically be present with someone.
That's not where the power is.
The power is in the spirit.
There is power in the physical, but as you go up the ladder, you know, which I don't
know if this is backwards.
Is this backwards for y'all or is this right side?
Yeah.
Oh, good.
Nice.
Okay.
So now I know that my image is flipped.
So yeah, all of these areas have power, but this one is a higher power than this one,
and this one is a higher power than this one.
So the kingdom of God, whenever it comes in to the presence of light, the principles of
the kingdom of this world, it always supersedes it in power.
So anyway, glad that I answered that, I mean, glad that I answered that to your satisfaction,
but I loved how you said that you took the authority that you knew that you had in Christ
and operated in faith.
I don't know if someone had ever, like, if you'd ever heard a teaching or anything by
the time that you did that, but I loved the fact that you owned your understanding between
you and the Lord about your identity and who it is that you are, and then you've understood
through your spirit, well, this must mean I should be able to do these types of things,
and you stood in it and you did it because you did it according to the heart of the Father.
When we take up, when we decide, oh, wow, I've got power, I've got authority, well,
let me start wielding it, but we're not doing it, understand your identity as sons of God,
not doing it out of the heart of the Father, that's when things can get messed up.
But when you think, no, no, no, I'm identified as one with Christ, and he's righteous,
therefore I am righteous, and he's holy, and therefore I am holy, et cetera, et cetera,
and then you choose out of that heart that is feeling the Father's heart to then choose
to make a decision and to move forward with something, even if you haven't actually ever
heard from someone yet, that you actually can do it, that means that you truly have
owned the, I don't want to say the information, but you truly have owned, you truly have owned
that revelation, and you've made it personal between you and the Lord, and you ran with
it, and so you were open to the Lord beginning to teach you and correct you, you know, if
like we'd start doing something, and then the Lord said, no, no, no, that's not quite
how you do it, you know, like, oh, okay, well, then you back up and then you do something
different, but we don't need to be so afraid and untrusting of ourselves that we think
that anything that comes up out of us that we just start to step out and try on our own
must be bad, no, it is a problem if we're not operating in the heart of the Father,
but if we're doing something, looking at our Father, trying to copy him, the Lord's very
pleased with that, and it's not a problem for us to step out trying, that is the fastest
way that we can actually learn to be like our Father is by watching him and trying to
copy him, and then he'll tell us whether or not we're copying him right, but it's the
fastest way to become like God, as opposed to just waiting there, afraid, waiting for,
you know, waiting for him to tell us every tiny little step of what it is that we're
allowed to do, and that's a very slow way to learn, that's the way that I tried to try
to live, you know, 30 some odd years of my life, and I didn't actually start making fast
progress until I just started, boom, stepping out without being 100% sure if I was doing
it right, and waiting necessarily for instruction, I just did it based off of what I understood
the Father's heart to be, like, it looks like God's doing these types of things, and
I want to be like my Father, so I'm going to do these types of things, and then he just
kind of corrects me along the way, but he doesn't slap me and say, no, Ashley, that
was wrong, that was evil, that was wicked, no, because I'm trying to copy him, I'm not
trying to decide, oh, I've got my own power, and I'm just going to do, well, if, you know,
because I have power, I want to get this done, that's a problem, and that's operating
out of the soul, but just with, like, putting a spiritual term on it, but so anyway, I loved
how you did that, so that's how we're supposed to do it, is to own that with the Lord, yeah.
Hey, Holly, how are you doing?
So, I know Priscilla had a question, so do you want to ask, clarify a bit more for everyone
about what it is?
Sure, yes.
Um, so when we were doing our consultation today, I just mentioned to
Ashley that I would have a question.
I feel like my questions are really random, but I like, in other words, I
feel like there might not necessarily be like totally related to the teachings,
but it's honestly, because the teachings, they just resonate with me so much that
I just don't have many questions.
Um, but the, uh, the question that I have, it's about fasting.
Um, it's just one area that I have never really walked in very much.
And I never, yeah, I guess when we were discussing it today about like how to
fast from a place of rest, I've always struggled with seeing it as a way of
like twisting God's arm and I know that it's like the Bible talks about fasting
and how like fasting goes hand in hand with some really powerful things.
Um, and so, yeah, I would just love more clarity on that and yeah.
Yeah, sure.
So, uh, fasting is one of those tools that we use in our, in, um, in our body
to move our soul into belief so that we'll believe, you know, and, and we can
begin to operate out of the spirit.
So, um, that's what, that's what fasting is.
Fasting is just a tool.
It doesn't mean that it's bad just because it's a tool.
It means that because it's a tool and it's not a life source, it can't get
us anything, but it's a tool that we can use to leverage our soul if we're
struggling to believe, because it forces us, it, it, it, it aids us to start
honing in our focus on the Lord, that he is our soul provision.
He is our soul protection.
Man does not live on bread alone, but by every word that proceeds from the mouth
of God, we all know that until we have to live off of completely devoid of bread.
Yeah.
Completely devoid of bread and also like, oh my word, I don't
know that I can handle this.
So it just, uh, it, it really forces us to, um, uh, I don't want to say forces us.
It, it's just a powerful tool because our body and our soul is so attached to it.
And believing that it sustains us, it helps us all that we know in our head that it
doesn't.
And yet the fact that we struggle when we fast is indicative of the fact that
we really are attached to it.
We are in.
So anyway, it's a, it helps us to focus on, um, on.
And I'm reminding ourselves that the Lord is our complete protection and
provision, and it helps our soul leverage our soul to believe.
Whoops.
I wish it wouldn't do that every now and then so much as kicked me out and I don't
know, I don't usually have that problem on private sessions.
I sometimes do.
I wonder if it's the fact that it's so late at night.
Um, so, um, uh, anyway, that that's what that is.
So it's, it's a tool.
And even when we're operating though, out of the spirit, we can still fast.
Jesus operated on it.
So it's, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a,
uh, so what did he do?
He operated out of the spirit and he fasted.
Remember, he went into the wilderness and fasted for 40 days.
So that's when we were, uh, where Satan was tempting and said, Oh well, why don't
you turn these stones into bread?
And Jesus said, I don't need to, you said man doesn't live by bread alone, but by
every word that proceeds from the mouth of God, I'm being fully sustained, fully
provided for and protected.
There's no need for me to.
It is, it is something that we can use, even if we're all breathing out of the
spirit, just as I don't want to say a gift that we're giving to the Lord, but
it's just kind of a, a, a reduced measure of distraction.
Um, okay, here's something very interesting.
There are people in the world who literally do not eat.
They literally live off of communion because they, because, uh, word is, is
what the Lord talked in.
Um, and, uh, yeah.
So, um, I'm hoping to learn, learn more about all of that, but because everything
proceeds from word, everything that was created was created from word, not the
spoken word, cause that's body, but, but from word in the spirit and like, let
there be light, things like that, which actually in Hebrew is like the, it's a
lot shorter than we make it in English, but anyway, it comes out of the spirit.
So, so the spoken word in spirit generates something in quantum
mechanics and quantum physics, which, so that creates a blueprint for what
quantum mechanics and quantum physics and how it, it operates and what it does.
And then quantum mechanics actually, uh, is the, create the.
blueprint and the instruction for how it manifests as particle.
In other words, how it manifests in the physical realm.
That's why all of the physical laws
that we thought that we understood,
when we began to understand quantum mechanics
in the metaphysical world, we were
shocked to discover that two atoms could
be quantumly entangled and be millions of miles apart.
Something we say and do can actually
affect something in the middle of a star thousands
of galaxies away because of quantum mechanics.
So that's how all this works, is it's
spoken word, which moves into quantum mechanics, which
is the blueprint for something actually being physically
created and something physically manifesting.
So my point in saying all of that
is we actually live off the word.
So if zinc or vitamins or an apple, whatever,
all of those things were created by a word that
originated in spirit.
So you can completely bypass the physical
and provide your body with everything that it needs,
strictly if you can access the living word of God
and claim that the living word of God
has all of the zinc in it that your body needs,
has all of the vitamins in it that your body needs,
or whatever.
There are people, in fact, multiple people in the world
that actually run marathons.
And they live for, I don't know how long,
but they live without eating because they take communion
and they claim that that's the body and blood of Christ
and that within the body and blood of Christ.
And I don't mean like, what is that called?
And I don't mean like the way that Catholics believe it,
where it actually physically changes.
I don't mean that.
It starts with an E. I don't remember.
But I don't mean that, but that we understand, OK, Lord,
you have given us life.
Your body was broken that we might be healed.
So you have already given us everything, everything
that we need to sustain our own bodies.
We don't actually have to eat for our bodies to be sustained
because you sustain our bodies.
Case in point, Moses spent 80 days fasting.
He did 40 days.
Then he went down and he got really upset at the Israelites
because they had started to worship the golden calf.
He'd been fasting for 40 days on the mountain.
Then he went back up the mountain for another 40 days
after he got onto all of them and fasted again, 80 days.
So Jesus then fasted for 40 days in the wilderness or whatever.
How are they able to do that?
They're sustained by the word of God.
They're sustained by his presence.
So there's nothing magical about fasting.
It's understanding and it's giving ourselves
an opportunity to truly embody and own the belief
that God sustains us and he sustains us by his word.
We're not sustained by food.
There's nothing wrong with food.
Personally, I really enjoy food.
But where we believe that it's our source, that's the problem.
Where we believe that that's what keeps us alive,
where we believe that God has to give us food in order for us to stay alive,
that's a problem.
If we believe that we have to have money,
if we believe that we have to have business,
if we believe that we have to have all of this stuff in order for something
to happen, that's a problem.
God will flow through all of those things.
But to believe that those things are necessary is not accurate.
It's why Sarah was able to have a baby at, what, 90 years old?
So because even though God created the physical laws,
he didn't need them in order to actually accomplish something.
Because everything in physical laws were created by the spoken word
and the spirit anyway.
So as long as you have the spoken word and the spirit,
it can totally bypass all the spiritual and physical laws.
It's a journey to get there.
But the fasting helps us on our journeys.
Yeah, that makes sense.
I feel like that's something, like the whole concept of not needing food,
like I've just literally never thought of that before.
And it's never crossed my mind.
So it's, yeah, it's something really interesting to think about.
Yeah, very interesting.
My mind goes on when I think about that.
Yeah.
So anyway, fasting is for our benefit.
It's not a requirement.
It's something to help us.
God doesn't need it.
But sometimes.
We do. So, and also, you know, even if we're imperfect, wonderful,
religious of the Lord, and we're believing, sometimes it's just something we'd like to do
with the Lord. Lord, you're sustaining me. I don't need it. And we can just do that. So.
Yeah. So does, more people have come on. This is great. Does anyone have any other questions?
I answered everything. Or anything that y'all would like to update the rest of us on
that Laura's been talking to y'all about? Am I going to have to come up with material again?
I probably have some somewhere.
Oh, really? No question. Oh, I've got one.
So does anyone have anything before I dive into this one? It's a unique one for the times that
we live in. Okay, so why don't we just handle a really hot topic right now and talk about Black
Lives Matter. Let's just, let's just get right into that one. Okay, so I've had, I've had some
discussions recently with some black friends of mine who reached out and I even had at least one
person asked me, it wasn't, it wasn't a black friend, it was someone else who was asking me
how my, my perspective on it in light of who it is that we are in Christ. And because they were
wondering, how do I interact with them? Because they're our brothers and sisters, how do I not
offend them? You know, what is it that, how can I give them what it is that they need, you know,
and, and et cetera. And so I began to talk and there was one person very specifically that reached
out to me, a black friend of mine that was really, really hurting. And, and in fact, they told me,
said that is why they reached out to me is that they were hurting. Now they didn't tell me that
until after I had started after I'd been talking to them and they were able to receive some comfort.
And what I did is, is I handled, I visited with them and spoke into them in the exact same way
that I've been talking about the fact of how we interact with, with, you know, like say members
of our team, if we're in business leadership or how we talk to children or how we talk to our
spouses or how we talk to, you know, some, a friend of ours that may be wounded, talk in the exact
same way. There is no difference. I do not care how political something has gotten. You remember
that God talks about the fact, he said, when someone comes to you and they're hungry and,
and they need clothes, they need warmth. He said, you don't send them off with a blessing and saying,
may God bless you and keep you. You know, I hope that everything's works out okay. And just know
that I'm here for you. And, and I'm sending you comfort and, and words of affirmation. He says,
no, you give them what it is that they need. So the reason why people get upset and they,
whether it be for, for the, what we're seeing in the current protests or whether it's water blocks,
it doesn't matter. You know, the, the wounds that we're seeing rise up are from a belief
that they are in lack somehow. There's something that they're lacking. They're lacking as,
they're, they're lacking a sense of identity and they're lacking love. They do not feel loved.
They do not feel valued and they need to feel valued. They need to know their value. They
need to know that they're being unified with, they need to know that they're being loved.
So that is all that I spoke to. In fact, my friend has wanted me to, I don't want to say
that they drew a line in the sand. It kind of felt like a political line in the sand that they
were drawing for me. And, and I, and I wasn't going to go there. I didn't talk about the politics at
all. Didn't talk about my opinion about the, about the protest. I didn't talk about any of
that because none of it mattered. They needed to feel loved. So I just taught, I, I just spoke to
them and let them know. I just let them know from person to person what I thought of them.
And I just poured love into them as a person. I let them know, I don't remember the
Exact words I use, but basically I said, you know, I'm unified with you. I'm one with you. I am here with you in this I absolutely will not abandon you in this. I made it very personal.
And I let them I gave them what it is that they needed. They needed that love. They needed to understand that.
That they were not being abandoned that they were not alone that they weren't on their own. I talked. I had to speak to them very personally.
That's all that they needed when someone really knows that that they are when someone is being spoken into and it's not the broken person that's being talked to, like, no, no, no, you know, you
You, you know, you are equal. You are this and you have just as much right and you are this it's it's acknowledging the brokenness and the lack that they're saying that they're feeling
And they think as so many of us do that.
That whenever we're in a state in which we're wounded. We feel that we want. We believe that we're going to be comforted if that lack is acknowledged.
And it might kind of feel like a bandaid comfort for a while. But really, that's not making us feel better in the long run, because it's not actually healing the problem.
That person needs to be to talk to up here, this person, their spirit needs to be talked to. And so that's what I was doing with my friend.
I didn't talk to this person. I talked to this one. This is why they called me. They wanted me to talk to this person.
And I refuse to. I know I didn't like make a big deal of it. I'm just saying that I didn't do that. I talked to this person.
And they said, and they eventually it got in the conversation and got to the point in the conversation where they were responding after I was just pouring into them and
And they said, Actually, this is why I called you. They said, I can't tell my other. They said, I can't tell my other white friends, friends, this kind of thing. He said they they
They told me, they said, I can't be as honest with them about my feelings as I can with you because you tell me things like that. And now I feel comforted.
That's he didn't use the word comforted, but that's what he was saying. Um, so the the east. I don't remember how the how they worded it something like, you know, I know that I'm received
And so anyway, and I didn't, I didn't do all of the things that originally they were wanting me to do, which is acknowledge the lack and
Don't I recognize that America is the way it is and that people are doing horrible things and that this is unjust and that this isn't right and that justice needs to be brought and
And, you know, raising a banner. It's like, no, no, that's, that's not what's needed. What's needed is they need to
That they're feeling a lack of love and unity and they needed to know they weren't abandoned
And what I could do the best, the most healing that I could provide most effective healing that I could provide was to do the same thing that my God did when he came to earth as Jesus.
He never talked about anything political ever the closest that he got to talking about things about political things is where he said, render into Caesar, the things that are Caesar's
But whenever they tried to get him into into political discussions. He absolutely refused to do it. And that was the closest that he got when they said, well, should we pay taxes or not.
So we'll render under Caesar, the things that are Caesar's and then he found a coin in the fish's mouth that help pace pay some taxes so
But every other time he disappointed people when they were wanting him to make political statements or they were wanting him to come in and
And what do you call that relieve them from their political oppression.
And he refused to do it. He was like, no, that's not why I came. I came to meet the needs of people because that's where they're in bondage.
They're in bondage, because they don't believe that they are who I declare that they are. So I needed to talk to my friends.
Up here, I needed to, I needed to call them out and and remind them who it is that they are so that they could then
They could then choose to rise to that place. And so anyway, that is something that I had a client asked me about a few days ago, I guess it was
And by that time, I'd already had I'd already had a couple of black friends reach out to me because they were hurting with some things. And so I just, I didn't even think about it. I didn't even think about what I was going to do with it.
But it was, I was doing because I've just learned to embody this so much because I believe
it.
Y'all don't have to believe it if you won't want to, but this is what I believe.
And because I believe it, and it's not just something I've heard, but I actually treat
it so much in me.
I didn't think about it.
I just started talking to him, him like that.
And it wasn't until afterwards when I had to put it into words for my clients that I
said, thought, Oh, wait a minute.
You know, I actually just did that the other day with a friend of mine.
And I actually talked to them in the same way that I recommend that we talk to everyone,
whether it be a team member or, or, you know, a spouse or a child or somebody who's wounded.
I talked to them in the exact same way.
And I didn't even realize at the time that that's what I was doing.
It's just that I knew that that's how I always need to talk to people is up here and not
down here.
So, and I didn't even, I didn't get into anything political.
They wanted me to cross some kind of a line that they draw on the sand, like, Nope, I
didn't, I didn't refuse.
It's not like we had this discussion about it.
But there were things that they were saying, and I just totally bypassed it and I was just
talking to them and building them up.
And by the end of the conversation, they were like, Okay, I really am that person.
So it was, and it made a big difference.
So anyway, I just wanted to mention that because I know it's a bit of a bit of a hot
topic right now.
And I know that some people have want to want to know how to reach out and, and bring comfort,
whether or not y'all been in uncomfortable situations, you want to reach out and bring
comfort and it feels like this landmine, we're like, I don't know, I could feel like I could
trying so hard to say the right thing.
And I'm saying out of love, and that is not how they heard it, you know.
So I just wanted to mention that these things that I talked about are very simple.
They're not just in certain situations like, oh, well, only in business leadership, or
only in marriage.
No, it's the exact same across the board.
Spirit operates the exact same way, regardless of whether it's in business or in relationship
or in finances, we input the exact same spirit in all of these areas.
Is that when it comes, when it goes through each one of those filters, it will manifest
slightly different into the earth, but we put in the exact same thing into all of them.
So I don't know if that any of y'all needed that.
But I thought that, like, well, since we're kind of in the middle of it, I'll, since nobody
has a question, I'll bring that one up.
I really, yeah, I really appreciate that, Ashley, because I had a couple of people reach
out to me today, and I have been like, silent on any platform about any of this.
I'm just like, what, what are we going to do?
What are you know, but I've been like, stunned at what some of my friends have done.
Like, I'm like, sister, what, like, I don't know, just from all standpoints, people that
I know that are like deep, deep friends that like post something, I'm like, I don't think
you believe that last week, like, what's happening.
But anyway, so you're right, it is like a landmine.
And what I have observed the most and the way that I prayed has really resonated with
what you said.
So I just want to share what the Lord has shown me because gosh, I did not figure this
out by myself.
And let me just tell you, I was raised like I grew up in Littleton, Colorado, which is
a white suburb of Denver.
I never had, I don't think I had any person of color, like in elementary school or middle
school.
And then we moved to Spearfish, South Dakota, where I promise you there was no person of
color.
Okay, like in the middle of the Black Hills.
So I also have never heard someone talk poorly about a black person lived in Texas for 12
years.
I've never heard somebody use the N word or speak despairingly of a black person.
I really, I know that there's like some, there's people that talk like that.
And okay, yes, I get it.
Like I have friends from like Mississippi and Louisiana, or maybe that kind of thinking
is whatever.
But I, I would have like sworn up and down that it was not like a huge problem.
So this kind of outshowing across the country has really been surprising in the natural
to me.
And I've just been praying and being like, where is the voice of the kingdom in this?
Like all these pastors are speaking out and all my, my girlfriends that walk with the
Lord are speaking out, but like, where is the voice of the kingdom?
Because what I was observing was when a white person genuinely asks a question there, they
are met with shame.
condemnation. When a black person speaks their, what is this new phrase? This like PC phrase,
like your like lived experience or something or your, your whatever. Like when they speak about
what they've experienced, everybody's like, well, that's not logical. And none of the facts back
that up. You know, like, that's like the white people like what they answer. And so it's just
been really interesting. There's also all of these videos out there of people of color saying,
this is a bunch of crap and there is no systematic racism and please don't get into this. And so
then it's like, you know, a dumb South Dakota kid. I'm like, like, which side are we going for here?
And, and what are we doing? And the church is answering very differently based on like what
pendulum swing of fundamentalism you're on. And okay. So there's just like all this stuff. And I
was hashing it out with my husband and being like, but I do not hear the voice of the kingdom
on this anywhere. Like, at least it's not loud. And I think it was, Oh, what is Priscilla Shrier's dad?
Tony Evans? I think so. Okay. So he has said some things and he's been on like cable news,
like Fox and stuff. And then you like see the clips, you know, on Facebook later or whatever.
He has said some things that sounded very kingdom like to me. And I really appreciated that,
but I was, you know, blowing up balloons and praying in the spirit, like, Oh my gosh, what is
this? And where, you know, where's the kingdom on it. And I was reminded of a time in my twenties
where I was like, just really in poverty and like really felt like it was because of these other
situations. And because of these other people that had put me in this circumstance and there was
no place for me to pull myself out of, there was no opportunity. I could not see a way forward.
And like all the emotions that I had built up into that and whatever. And I heard a sermon
about God's great love for me, which at the time I was like, not, I was not walking in grace and
I was not walking in freedom or anything like that. Just in religion. And there was this one
phrase and he was talking about Matthew 15 and the prodigal son, but he was specifically talking
about the older brother and how the older brother was furious that when this, when the prodigal
brother came home, he received all of his authority and all of his land and wealth back and was like,
welcomed into the family. And the brother's like, how could you do this? I have been working so hard.
And the father turns to him and basically says, you have had it all along.
And that like stunned me and it broke some shackles off of me. Like, so what I really want,
what I'm working for, I actually already have, like, how could that be? And it was sort of like a
ball rolling into grace for me. But I felt like that's what the Lord said to me in a stint about
what people of color need, what the voice of the kingdom into this race issue right now is, is
you have had it all along. And now I'm not the voice that needs to say that. Like I'm not,
nobody's starting a podcast. I'm just saying that like what you were saying is like, you talk to
them like they are in the spirit. It's the same thing that like, I felt like the father said to
me is like, they have had it all along. And what we need is blind eyes open. We need eyes that see
and ears that hear what the spirit has for them, like what's open for them. And that is
everybody's freedom. And that's, you know, that's our freedom as we walk through and walk into rest
is like, oh, this has been here all along. So now I just get to rest and receive it.
And for whatever people have genuinely experienced in America as being people of color,
whatever freedom they need, like it cannot come from the system and it cannot from the government
and it can't come from a white person, but you have had it all along. And it really is out of
the kingdom. And it really is from the hand of the father. And that has been so encouraging to me.
And so I just echo that from like a different angle. I think that really is what the Lord's
doing. So thank you, Ashley. Yes, thank you. Yeah, you're right. We've already all had it.
And then if we believe that we're down here though, well, then we don't think that we had it.
So instead of us telling each other, regardless of whether it's a race issue, you know,
or if it is an economic issue of, well, you know, you've got more money than I do, or whether it is,
I don't know, you know, I'm depressed and you aren't so you wouldn't understand or, you know,
I've had it bad and I have this trauma and I have this mental disorder and I don't know, you know,
whatever brokenness.
that someone is coming out of, where they have this sense of lost identity,
instead of talking to them of like, no, that's not true, and saying, no, you're more than that,
you can be better than that. And then it's constantly bolstering them up. And then it makes,
it makes each of us dependent on whoever is trying to support us underneath, because we're not rising
of our own effort. So therefore, we're dependent on constant outside affirmation, where if we talk
to this person, or if we're this person, and we're being talked to, like this, we have the opportunity
to choose to recognize ourselves and to pull ourselves up. But what the Lord holds me responsible
for is to always see who he sees, not to see who the world sees, because the world is seeing a lie,
the world is seeing some the world meaning like, how I view myself in certain areas of my life,
where I view myself as broken, I view myself as less than in other words, I'm not believing God
about something, I have some accusation against his character that he isn't good enough or loving
enough. And therefore I am here. So whatever the brokenness is, you know, if we, we don't need to
be talked to that way. And we told no, we're not that we need to be told no, you're, we just need
to be talked to up here. And so it's saying you're no, you're not that we just say, oh, my word,
you're like this, and you're, you're like this. And I so appreciate these things about you. And I want
you to know that we're unified, and you're never, you're never abandoned. And you're and we're this
and we're that always speaking in affirmatives, as opposed to trying to deny something,
then it's going to have a much more powerful effect on whoever it is that's wounded. So the
only reason that I'm bringing up the whole Black Lives Matter thing is to help us is because it's
the exact same thing that we've been talking about, you know, during the rest intensive,
I just wanted to kind of pull this in and say, Hey, look, everything that we've been talking
about with leadership or with marriage or with children or talking to a peer that that's hurt,
whatever the whole Black Lives Matter thing is the exact same thing. It's talking to someone
who feels that they are not something that God has declared them to be, or that other people
aren't recognizing that, that they are who God has declared them to be. So we give them what they
we give them what it is that they really want what they really need. We give them food, we,
we give them a cloak, we don't just talk to them and just say, Hey, look, it's different than that
different than what you believe it's better than that you can have more you can be more you can I
don't know whatever, depending on what type of brokenness a person is in, whether it be the race
thing or an economic thing or a mental illness thing or whatever. And not not talking to that.
And just trying to not denying it but saying, well, sometimes it comes across as denying,
but sometimes it's just kind of like, Hey, look, you can have more you can be more whatever,
just just saying it like it is, then we're the first people most likely that those people will
ever have heard, talk to them like that and recognize that that's who they are. And we're
just supposed to talk to all of you to, to each of to all of us like that. We're not supposed to
ever under any circumstances, regardless of the issue, talk to this person, all of us, regardless
of brokenness, regardless of who it is, whether it's a stranger or a family member, always talk
to everyone like this. And, and that is in their finally hear the voice of their Lord. And, and
it's the presence of God that transforms people and, and into sense of God, and that transforms
them and changes their lives, not logic. So logic hasn't been working, right? It's not going to work
because logic can't heal a hurt heart, right? It can't heal emotions, you have to deal with it
emotionally. So anyway, that's the only reason I bring it up is that's not a separate special issue.
It's the exact same thing that we've been talking about this whole time. We always talk to this
person. We don't talk a bit to this person and say that they're better than that. We push them
up or that they're not that, and that they have more than that. Just talk, talk, talk as reality
actually is not of what it can be and what it could be and the freedom that they could move into,
but declare it as if it already is it because it is. So, and then we talk that way. So anyway,
I just wanted to mention that because somebody brought it up the other day as if wondering
that that was because I don't know, there was, it has gotten so politicized.
That they began to kind of, it sounded like that they began to kind of see it as, how
would you say it, so many of the people that I've talked to just thought that it was just
a separate issue.
And I'm like, no, no, no, it's the exact same thing, the exact same thing, anyway, but thank
you, you're absolutely right, it's, we're all, we all already have it, so.
So, does anyone have anything else?
I really appreciated how you kind of explained the difference between, you know, talking
to someone, you know, down here or, you know, trying to push them up versus like speaking
to who they already are, because that was actually one question I had as you were like
explaining, I'm like, you know, what does that actually look like, but you answered
my question, and yeah, I had to laugh, Holly, when you were talking about South Dakota,
or was it North Dakota, I forget which one you were saying, it was my husband and I were
just discussing the other night that, about how, like, yeah, there's just not a lot of
Black people in the West, and Arnold was just telling me a joke about a Black man who went
to South Dakota and asked, like, where the colored part of town is, and the man just
told him that, well, probably wherever you go, because he was literally the only person.
Yeah.
Yeah, and I live in South Dakota, because, and I'm very strict about that, because North
Dakota is the only place worse than South Dakota.
I did not want to be looped in with North Dakota.
Oh, that's hilarious.
Yeah, no, I, well, I used to live in Western Montana, and I literally remember, I remember
two people, no, I remember seeing one person that was Black.
That was, that was it.
Like, there's just not a lot of Black people in the West.
Now, did you have Native Americans, though?
Ah, yes, we had a lot of those.
Yeah, they wouldn't, and I, yeah, I used to work at a little Benton Den store, and so
we'd see a lot of people come in there, but yeah, there was just one Black person that
I can remember ever seeing, and yeah, it was kind of interesting, because, you know, they'd
always kind of, people would almost stare without even thinking about it, because they
just, they just don't think about it, because they just aren't, they just don't see people
of color very much, and yeah, it was just, it was interesting.
Yeah, it is.
I don't know.
Hey, am I gonna have to come up with another topic?
It's a good thing that I had a, I had a list here of things that I was gonna, gonna do
teachings on whenever, whenever people don't have questions.
Good thing I've got some stuff written down.
That was one of them, so I can mark that one off.
I think it's good.
I think the, the Black Lives Matter stuff is, more than anything, I think that has caused
some unrest in me, because I used to be a big fan of, like, Brene Brown, and I've read
a majority of her books, not all of them, or whatever, and so when you feel like you
watch some of these people, and like, how they respond, and how they answer, and it,
and I, I would judge the fruit as, like, not a kingdom, and that kind of thing.
It really is concerning, and, and I'm, and I was nervous for a while that this just isn't
gonna turn out helpful for the Black community at all, because, like, wasn't it in the 60s,
there were race riots, too, and it, like, set the Black communities back, like, 20 or 30 years,
you know, because here's the deal.
White people might not be racist, but we sure are prejudiced, because we just want everybody
to act right.
Like, that's what I was telling my husband, which I will, like, which I will, like, say
to you, it's like, no, we are, we are equally as prejudiced against anyone who cannot behave
themselves, and I think it comes from the British, like, I think we just haven't, like,
shaken that part off yet, you know, from, like, 1776, okay, but it doesn't care, we
don't care what color you are, like, mind your manners, that, that's, like, it, but
you can, but I'm not, someone else can see up and say that, and so I think it's tough
when people are, like, we just need to sit in this pain with, with any person of color
for a while, like, we need to just sit here and hear them, and there's, like, this one
meme going around about, like, how realizing your white privilege can cause depression
and anxiety, and you need to stick with it, and it can cause confusion and that kind of
thing, and I was, like, so, basically, what you're telling me is the hordes of hell are
being released against you, against me, like, process.
seen my wife privileged. No, no. And why would I know we wanted
to get rid of all of this, not just like put it on. Okay, I'm
done. Anyway. I've got to stop. But it's like this whole thing
where you like hear these people that have brought so much
freedom in the soul to so many people. And then they're like,
just sit in this pain for a while. And I'm like, I can't.
I'm just like, No, Jesus, a little too deeply for this. Like,
I'm not gonna sit here. Like, we'll move on out. Sorry. But I
don't know. But it makes me nervous that that I don't know
my prayer and like the way that I've been interceding is like,
where's the voice? Like, where's the person with the voice that
is called for this time to bring the message of Christ's freedom
to humanity? Like, that's what must be said, period. And like,
who is it and Lord, raise them up and put a spotlight on them
like whoever they are. And so, um, that's what I've been
praying to this not mean, like, I don't feel like that at all. I
feel like the Lord is like, you better hush it. You are way too
opinionated for you are way too opinionated for any of this. Be
quiet. Yeah, and like what you said, you know, Jesus.
Princess Jesus lived in an extremely political time of
tremendous political upheaval and unrest. And there were those
there was a zealots, etc. And he didn't have social media. And
all he did was he just, he just went around and touched people
personally, one on one. And then had his disciples, which were
more than the 12. He had his 12. And then he had a greater number
of disciples beyond the 12. And of course, he had blocks of
people who would follow him from place to place, or that would
catch him here and there. And so it's people being transformed by
the presence of God when, when we interact with them, when we
show them Christ, when we show them Jesus, that has the
potential to spread like wildfire, wildfire. And it did,
it did in Jesus's time, my goodness, he was only in
ministry three years. And my goodness, the upheaval that he
caused in one hole in an entire nation without social media,
walking on foot from place to place. So, and so the power of
God is, is the is the one that can do what can transform all of
this. And there are things that we can pray for, in the spirit,
and that will allow the end where we can begin to take more
dominion in the spirit, and we can declare things. And, for
instance, you know, if there are things like say, for instance,
there's been some physical, there's been some physical
turmoil, you know, from physical creation going on around the
world the past few months back or whatever. And we could and
people getting to get on like, for instance, the fires of, of
Australia, and those were being pushed back by the people of
God rising up and declaring things in the spirit. Yeah,
people were learning to have dominion. And they were
practicing, they were trying and they were figuring it out. And
how to call things into being when they weren't present, they
weren't in Australia, they weren't physically fighting the
fire, but they were spiritually fighting the fire, and it was
having a bigger impact than the firefighters, and all of that.
They were, they were speaking to the fire, they were speaking to
the air, they were speaking to the water, they were speaking to
the rain, they were, they were doing things they were and, and,
and all of a sudden, rain started flooding. And I mean,
there was no reason why it should have, it was just the
prayers of the Lord, we can the same, that that same dominion
can be had and declared over, over creation, including human
souls, like what we were talking about at the very, very beginning
of the, of the q&a back at about an hour ago. And we can call for
call for rest, we can declare and tell everything to be calm.
And for souls to recognize who it is that they are, because
we're calling them forth, we're calling them by name, we're
asking the Lord to reveal things to us, that we can then speak
into, and we can actually declare. And so it's not
something that I know how to describe, maybe in a whole lot
more detail than I am at this moment, that I have done that
before. And it's worked. I have talked to people
spirits and souls. And it has changed things in the heavenly realm. And I have not been
present, at least I wasn't physically present. And it has changed things. It is shocking.
And so I'm learning it as well. So all that we have to do is we have to know who it is
that we are in Christ. And then from that position, think, okay, what do I feel that
I can do? Okay, I'm going to start doing this, I'm going to start doing that, start acting
like our father. And then he'll show us, you know, if we are, if that's how he is actually
going about doing it. And so we can do the same thing with with with this to bring calm
to the situation too. But what's important and all we have all we need for calm to be
brought is that people feel and that people know who they are. That is all that is needed.
Not a not a policy, some kind of political policy or government law or that we all rise
up publicly and agree to something, you know, or that people start acting different. You
know, I like what you're talking about, like, we just like, Oh, can't we just all get along?
You can't we just all act like it? We know what we've been trying that for however many
hundreds, not thousands of years, and it hasn't worked. Because the issue is the human heart.
So, you know, what you're talking about, you know, that Europeans, your people of European
descent are just like, Hey, look, we just all just need to behave. And yet, that's still
like what you were saying. It still doesn't work. You know, it's still not dealing with
the root problem. Yeah. Okay.
I can't ever tell if I'm muted or unmuted. But anyway, okay, I've got to tell you all
this. So, um, one of the things that I did when I was pregnant is I blessed my baby's
spirits in the womb, because I think that your spirit is whole and grown, okay, when
you're conceived. So okay, I just have to show you this book. It's right here. So Arthur
Burke, he's real weird, y'all are gonna love him. He has this joke called pure joy. And
then he has another one called blessing your spirit. And it's blessings for the spirit
man that are all scripture based, and stuff like that. But they are so powerful. And I
think that's why my boys are are so wild is because I like bless their little spirits.
And they're just huge in these tiny little bodies. And so anyway, I was thinking about
that with the race arts, because I don't know what y'all's dreams have been like lately.
But in all of my dreams, there's like tornadoes or tsunamis, or something like that. And I
like, well, and people are like, you know, it's like Avengers when you're on the street.
And like, people are just like running everywhere and all the cars. I don't know if you guys
watch as much TV as I do or movies as I do. I need help. But anyway, so um, they're like
going crazy and running everywhere. And I was like, well, stand still. This isn't my
dream. And I feel like the Lord is like, I want you to call that out of the sky. And I'm
like, Okay, what should I say? Like, you know, could you just like, do I just like, should I
bring the natural shopping spirit? Let me just make it up as I go like, you know, and
so it's like, I feel like the Holy Spirit will give me not like a script, but like, I'll
have a knowing of what to say and what to pray. And I will pray these tornadoes like out
of the sky, and they like turn into thin clouds. And my boys are always with me. My
husband is never around in any stream. Which is funny, because he's very calm. So okay,
that's fine. He wouldn't be caught dead in the middle of like a panic, like a public
panic. And or even like a tsunami or anything like that. And there's a lot I don't know if
y'all keep up with prophecies. But there's a lot of prophecies about stuff like this
happening, not in the natural, but like what's coming in the spirit and how the Lord's
showing people how to respond to it. And anyway, um, so but my dreams have been like that.
And then everyone there's been, there's been like, the Lord's like, I want you to call it
out of the sky. I want you to like flatten the waves. And I'm like, Okay, how and he will
lead me in that and it just flattens and my boys will be like, you did it, mama, you did
it, you know, and it's just hysterical, because that's what I want them to see. Like, I want
them to see the dominion of God, I want them to see like the safety and the power and the
goodness of God on with their eyes on like that kind of level. And I've always prayed for those
experiences. And I think it would be cool to like walk into a riot or something like that, as
you're called to and as you're given authority to like, okay, but to like walk into a riot
and to just look around and be like, Okay, Lord, who needs to be loved? Like who needs to
be? You know, I don't know. I don't know if you guys heard about the George Floyd
um his they had a funeral for him here in Fayetteville which is like an hour
away from us and then they did in Houston and at both of them
like revival broke out on the street people started praying for each other
and healing and like they what like went out of the church
building and like started laying hands on people on the street and it like
it was just like a calmness because you know Fayetteville got
tore up they still have not opened that Walmart
over there it's crazy they tore the town apart so um
it's just been really interesting but I think that's
probably how the kingdom is going to answer this is that
we're going to just individually be out in the streets and have like the
availability to to to speak
like identity into people and watch it fall and watch it transform the crowd
and anyway that's what I'm praying for yeah
that's good and I love hearing about your dreams that that
you know you're you're doing that and you're speaking those things to you in
your dreams because yeah we absolutely have that
that ability to do now and we just start and like what you
say where you're like well what do I say what do I do and then
the spirit just starts telling you well pray this kind of a
thing tell the you know tell the such and such
of nature to do this and such and such a nature to do that so
I just tell it like I'm a son of God and this is what I want you to do I'm
here to protect you and to take care of you and provide for
you and I'm telling you that this is what I need you to do
so I expect you to do it yeah while watching the things of nature you know
their their stories about people you know that
like you know obviously just like Elijah did only they're doing it today
you know causing it to rain and then causing it to stop
just declaring it and immediately the rain will turn on and will turn off
you know and because they're they're they're standing in their authority as
sons and kings of God because they're learning I mean that
we're like a three-year-old or five-year-old okay let's
try this out I don't really know how it works you
know but yeah yeah yeah that's good
okay well anything else before we jump off
Holly you must be a lot more mature than I am because I'm having the same kind of
dreams except I'm in mom mode so I'm like trying to manage everything
and get everybody to straighten up and knock it off and
I wake up tired I don't remember what it was I said the other day and Dan teased
me about well that's not living in rest I literally like I'm having the same
dreams but I'm ready to bust heads I'm not quite as
spiritual I guess about it no no no no you remember like a month
ago when I was telling you all my dreams that
that I got like stuck in situations and couldn't get out of them
do you were you did you hear me talk about that stuff
I may have I'm not sure yeah so when did we start this April so like in
literally in March I would have these reoccurred my whole
life I've had this probably since a teenager I've had these reoccurring
dreams that I get stuck in a scenario and I can't get where I'm supposed to be
and I've promised somebody I'm going to be there I have a job or
I'm supposed to be like on stage you know it's like these wild things and
then I'm I'm like stuck in the dressing room and
no matter what I cannot get out of the dressing room or like and every door is
the wrong door yeah anything that can happen happens
yep yes and I had those dreams forever and
um um oh Ashley do you remember
I know what it was yeah we talked about the sentence it was on a zoom call like
this and Ashley said whatever I'm doing I'm about my father's
business because I'm the father one I'm about my father's business whatever
whatever I'm doing and I have had this stronghold of
I'm not where I'm supposed to be and I'm gonna miss it whatever I'm called to
I'm gonna miss it somehow that has been like a big fear
and that just came from church teaching like you got to get right with God you
got to fast and pray or you're gonna miss the move of God
but I was really like I'm gonna miss it and um
when she said that and I just like soaked that in and talked about it and I
was like tearful on the zoom call I was like
you know like crying it really broke off of me
and I asked the Lord for like new dreams to confirm it and that night
I had two separate dreams and both of them were like complete dreams where I
went from one oh I don't know what it was one of
the dreams is I was supposed to be in a beauty pageant
and I was supposed to be in a beauty pageant and I
like was in it and I like walked my thing in my
suit and I like walked my thing in my gown and I gave my speech and I came up
and I didn't win like no it wasn't like any of that
It was just that I like completed it and then my family was there and we were backstage and
and we were talking or whatever and then I went to the another part of the dream
and it was the complete dream that like ended at the end and I wasn't caught up in anything weird
but that was the biggest deal to me was was to have a different dream like that so
no no please do not chalk any of this up to like maturity or depth I think you could tell
by the way I babble on that those two things are glaringly missing in my life.
Not at all not at all remember what we talked about you really need to dream about vacations.
You dream about vacations?
No I need to.
You know speaking of all of these dreams reminds me of you know the post that Carrie made about
her dreams reminds me of yours Holly where you're like my whole life I've had these dreams or
however long I don't remember how long you say you're just for years I've had these dreams and
it always ends like this and I'm like lord and it's this this bone of contention you know you
have to work you know we need to finish this thing and so Carrie you know posted you know
that she'd had a dream you know for years you know about her new husband where you know she's
always picking someone else and it drove her nuts you know and it was just it was just emotionally
um straining for her and then so she's then she released it to the lord and she's like I'm just
you know and just talk to her soul soul I'm gonna let go I don't know what it is you're hanging on
to but I'm telling you as your lord and as your king this is how it is I'm believing the lord and
the lord has declared this and therefore so it shall be and then she I think she asked the lord
she uh I don't remember how how it ended up working out so oh she said that she thought
that the dream that that would be it but um that she just wouldn't have that dream again
but instead the lord did for her what he did for you Holly where she had the dream only this time
the right thing came about and she's like oh my word he's pretty he's manifesting and talking to
me that we're in full reconciliation that it comes full circle everything's closed all of the loose
ends are tied the whole thing is done in the spirit and it's done by the blood of the lord
so I think that that's really neat that both of y'all have a have that similar testimony so I
asked the lord if this was different for me I didn't have like all of this other stuff going on
that that I was that was always happening the same way and then at the end it and then eventually I
asked the lord for a dream that it would close that it's not like that but I did have something
that I asked the lord for recently and yesterday I think it was two days ago I asked the lord um if
he would if he would interact with me in a particular way and if he would tell me something
and I was not expecting it in the dream but he came to me in a dream and he told me what it is
that I asked him for and I jolted awake I mean immediately and I was like that's it he told me
I'm so excited so it's me all of these dreams that we're having and and how it is that the
lord is just talking to all of us you know get more through through our dreams so I still have
more in my dream life I'd like him to reconcile it anyway so we're I'm still praying through
those still asking though we're not praying through but you know just asking lord okay lord
you know I've moved on I've matured in my spiritual relationship and I'm asking am I in my belief
system and I'm asking that my dreams follow that and to show me where my dreams are still manifesting
areas of unbelief um so anyway but we get to all that so anything else before we go
everybody good what's up it's good to see y'all good to see you and I guess we'll just meet back
up on um on Thursday y'all let me know um because I have things that I just kind of think of
periodically you know to talk about or just do live teachings on throughout the week but y'all
let me know if y'all have questions and then I could try to make those slides to answer whatever
so anyway well I'll talk to y'all later hope y'all have a good night see you later bye