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Hi Elizabeth.

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Hey, how are you?

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Doing good.

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What are you up to?

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Are you at the place where you work?

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No, I'm actually not.

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I'm grabbing some guacamole and tacos.

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Nice.

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I'm sorry.

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I'm like, I meant to be done by now and turn into a later night.

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So I'm in line.

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No, that's fine.

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No worries.

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Yeah.

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It's like a mom and pop shop.

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It's pretty easy.

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Like, I was like, if I need to order real quick,

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I'm going to sit outside and listen because they have a nice patio that I

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can mute it if I need to.

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Yeah.

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Good.

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How are you doing?

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Tonight, your first night.

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Yes.

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I'm so excited.

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Good.

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Well, I'm excited for everybody to get to meet you and get to meet

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everybody.

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Hey, Carrie.

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How you doing?

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Good. Hey, I am actually upstairs organizing my office right now.

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So.

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If you wonder why it's like really weird lighting up here and I keep

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walking back and forth.

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That is why.

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Good. Well, I loved your posts today.

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It was today. Yeah.

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I'm so happy to hear that.

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I'm so happy to hear that you're doing better. I know it's hard.

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No, one can do it for us. No one can like.

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It's just something we have to walk through together.

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So I just try to be there in support and encourage and let them know,

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Hey, look seriously.

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It's really nice. But it's like, no, no, it goes as far as we,

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as we can take it. So it's anyway.

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So I was, I'm so excited that, that, um,

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you and the Lord moved to a deeper level. It's like, God, just constantly,

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like I always say, just moves us into invites us into something that we

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think, Oh my word, Lord, this is such a nightmare. And God's like, no,

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no, no. I want you to know that, that even in this place,

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this is where your freedom is. And I want to prove it to you.

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My internet kicked me off anyway. So I don't think,

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I want to prove it to you so that you know, this is, um, you know,

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you can have freedom to this extent.

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And then I'm not living here. So yay.

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I've been just thinking about you and I'm like,

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not sounding good the past few weeks.

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It was just, yeah, I had never experienced anything like that.

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Like as far as I just thought, you know,

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it's always holier to just surrender and like totally like not ever think

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about it again. You know what I mean?

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Like I'm like, I'm like, I'm just like, I'm just like,

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I'm like I'm not like in that, in the house situation specifically.

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And I mean, I still don't know why my piece is,

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is to keep believing God for the house. I still don't understand it.

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All I know is that I feel like I'm back in that place of rest and that's

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all.

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All I care.

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I know.

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It was insane. Like this, this couple of weeks I was like,

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I don't even remember what I feel.

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I was like two weeks of, of like this striving or like,

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not the striving, but the struggle,

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like the intense struggle I was like, yes.

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How in the world did I live like this my whole life?

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And not have like,

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Major health problems or something.

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I know. But, but you remember though,

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you were on that call with, with Cheryl.

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You think about the health that you've had to already overcome.

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Three years ago.

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Wasn't it.

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Was it about the colon cleanse?

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Wasn't it like a really long time ago?

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Yes.

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It was with Cheryl and we were talking about.

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Like trying to come up with ideas about.

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The colon cleanse, I think.

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Yes, exactly.

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And so you remember all of that colon cleanse, you know,

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the colon cleansing and all of that.

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That results from that results from stress, anxiety,

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this feeling where we're out of control.

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We're constantly having to be vigilant.

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And usually issues with the gut stem from our.

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That's what the gut health, gut issues come from.

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And so that's where my team runs.

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So when you were talking about, you're like, how did I live this whole life and

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not, and not have health issues you did.

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That was it.

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God gave us both tools through which we were able to, even before we learned

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about rest, because I, whoops, God, um, began to heal me from, from with the

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gut cleanse before I even learned about rest as well.

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And he gives us those tools in order to provide us a means by, in, in the, uh,

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in the realms in which we're choosing to operate, um, uh, ways in which to, um,

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to be, to, uh, be free in a way.

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Now we're not able to be free completely.

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And the fact that we're still living in fear and whatnot, but we can be, we can

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live in more relief from those symptoms and the manifestations, you know, that

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have resulted.

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So you did, it, it, it, it, it did.

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It did got, it got in there just like it did for me.

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But yeah, it's nice.

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Isn't it?

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Once we, uh, realized, oh my word, I don't have to live like this.

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I don't have to live with the, with we, uh, the things that, that, um, uh, that

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caused the manifestations that I was, um, eventually experiencing, like you're

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getting rid of the root.

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So anyway, yeah, yeah.

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So I'm still working on a lot of, of my gut cleansing from my, um, cause I'm

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about three quarters of the way through.

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Oh, interestingly, I do not know how long it took you, but for me, I did not start

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seeing results for literally 12 months.

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Why you know how you're supposed to see results?

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Well, I started seeing certain results, like in my skin and whatever, but you

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know how, what you're supposed to actually see, which I will save everyone.

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12 months.

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And it didn't finish for 18 months.

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So for six months, it was going, you know, from the 12 months to the eight,

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six F to the 18 months, it was, it was going through a process of like actually

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finally getting some results.

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Um, and then though I am about three quarters to four fifths cleanse, um, but

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I still have that last, that last bit.

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So, and I'm just asking the Lord, okay, Lord, now that I know about rest, I would

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like to be able to move into a greater measure of that rest of being able to,

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um, to heal and maintain the healing of my gut through no longer through, uh,

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healing the root cause of why, of why, uh, what was creating the issue in the

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first place, I feel like I'm in constant vigilance and then my, my gut, you know,

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as a response, anyway, but until, until then, I'm, I'm, I'm taking advantage of

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the bodily realm and using actual essential oil tools.

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Can you guys fill me in a little bit on what you're referring to?

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Like referring to the gut stuff.

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Can you fill me in a little bit?

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Yeah.

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So, um, uh, it was, uh, just where your microbiome gets off and, um, and it, and

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they say the majority of issues in the body stem from, from, uh, uh, bad gut

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health, like, I don't remember what percentage, which I'm totally familiar

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with gut, gut issues and health.

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I was just wondering about like the cleanse that you guys are referring

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to and like what, what you're, what you mean?

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And yeah, it's, it's a, it's a young living, uh, it's a young living cleanse.

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And so they have a trio of three things that you use.

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And, um, and so you can just go through, um, uh, go through all that.

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Uh, uh, Cheryl in here.

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Um, Cheryl Reese, Cheryl Flair and Carrie, um, Carrie here.

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Um, how do you pronounce your last name?

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Is it Beeler?

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Sorry.

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Beeler.

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I'm like, you're like talking and it's like not going anywhere.

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Beeler.

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Beeler.

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Okay.

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Sorry.

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So the three of them are on a young living team.

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And so you just contact any one of them and they can give you more

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information about that specifically.

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Um, but, uh, but yeah, so, you know, all of the stress, anxiety,

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vigilance, constantly feeling like you're living under threat.

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Our body will manifest that.

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And then, um, the gut is, you know, the, our, what did they call that?

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Our, I think they call it actually our first brain.

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They say that our, that our, the brain in our head actually gets its original.

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Um, it gets a lot of instruction, so to speak.

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So, um, it's really, really major, um, component of, um, of our health.

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And, um, one of the ways in which we manifest, uh, the, the, our state of

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unrest gets manifested into the gut.

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So, um, yeah.

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But so the young living stuff helps me and carry with that before we started

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learning about having to live before we started learning about the root cause

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of how it's manifesting in the body.

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So interesting.

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Yeah, I'm totally with you.

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I'm very holistic minded, so I've done a lot of nutrition, but I have a lot

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of healing that I need and I actually hit this place of, um, yeah, having

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to almost let go of how intense.

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I was focusing on like the nutritional side of gut healing to like deal

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with the emotional, spiritual stuff.

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Um, not that it's separate, but just that, like, I was focused so much

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because I had a business with my ex-husband for, uh, nutrition and

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chiropractic and oils and all that.

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So it was like, we had all that, but the unrest and the stress and the

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lack of emotional, spiritual health was so detrimental that it was like,

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it was like, we're doing all, making all these efforts, spending

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all this money in this area.

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But so, but that doesn't mean that it's not really important

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and I need to pick it back up.

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It's just like, it feels like whack-a-mole sometimes.

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Yeah.

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Correct.

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It's, um, it's the, it's, uh, the secondary level, um, when the root where

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if the root cause isn't healed, the things are going to continue to manifest.

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Even so we're just, we're just managing symptoms.

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So managing symptoms is a gift from the Lord to be able to do, but it's

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not dealing with the root issues.

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So we continually are finding ourselves managing that.

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That's what I'm doing with my guest is I'm managing it because in that area of

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my life, God's still having to move me into greater and greater measures of rest.

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So until then, God gives me the grace to be able to go where my faith is at.

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And my faith currently is at the place where I still need to go ahead

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and use some tools.

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So anyway, yeah.

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That's really good.

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Hey, Amy.

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How you doing?

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I'm good.

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I've been here for a while.

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I know.

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I'm sorry.

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We were in the middle of the conversation.

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That's okay.

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No, I didn't know you, you knew I had been here for a while.

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Yes, yes.

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I, yeah, I can, I can see you.

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So I have to pop in here and show you guys.

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I was, I was in the middle of a live tonight in my business and Eric comes

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up the stairs with these flowers, nearly melted me into a puddle.

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I just think they're so beautiful.

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So they're gorgeous.

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I need to take them downstairs before they die.

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Yeah.

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Beautiful, beautiful, beautiful summer bouquet with all of that, that red and

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the, and the sunflowers is a really, we live right in the heart of Amish country

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in Lancaster, and so there's all kinds of like produce stands and like all

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kinds of, you know, little red barns full of stuff.

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So he was over there this evening, got watermelon and produce and

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picked up a bouquet too.

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I guess so.

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And it's a very many, one of the many perks of living in Amish County is that

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there's so many farmers and so many produce stands and so nice, like literally

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just a couple of miles down the road.

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So much homegrown stuff.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Which Amish County do you live in or like what, what Amish area do you live in?

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We live in Lancaster County, Pennsylvania.

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Okay.

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Wow.

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I live, well, my family's from an Amish town.

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They're not Amish, but they live for like the past 50 years.

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My grandparents have been in a small town in Illinois.

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That's a lot of Amish.

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So yeah.

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Okay.

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Yeah.

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That's seriously, there's, there's a big like colony or whatever, kind of a

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settlement of Amish and Mennonite in Illinois too.

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Yeah.

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Those are beautiful.

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Hey Steph.

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I can't hear who's talking.

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I can't see who is talking.

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Yeah.

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She's off video.

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That's Lisbeth.

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She's new.

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And so this is her first night being able to jump on.

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She was, I think she was on vacation or basically last, last week.

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So this is her first week getting to jump on.

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Okay.

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Hey guys.

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There she is.

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She's making us jealous because she's eating guacamole and tacos.

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The guacamole, you guys eat it all day, every day.

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I'm so good.

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Yeah.

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So does, it's good to see everybody.

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I'm glad so many of y'all were able to jump on and I was excited that it, that

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Lisbeth could jump on so that y'all could get to meet her.

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She's so much fun.

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I just love her spirit.

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Does anyone have any questions or anything that they wanted to bring up?

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Anything that they've been thinking about that the Lord's just kind of been

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working, uh, been through.

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I'm just going to jump right in here.

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Cause I thought about this right when we were talking about the whole house stuff.

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Um, but I was wondering, um, about Eric when, like, for instance, when.

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Children are born sick

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like how do you

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How do you go about?

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Like are there rude things in him that like transferred probably transferred through me during pregnancy

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But how do you go about?

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finding healing

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For situations like that when it's an infant or he's like two years old

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So I don't think he's operating in high stress or you know a place of unrest

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I mean, you know, he's very innocent in other words, you know what I mean? Just do does my question make sense?

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So I think I understand what you're saying, but I don't understand the question. So we were asking what specifically I was asking

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how you would

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Go about getting to the root cause of his health issues

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Because I know for us. Yeah for us. He's got like food allergies and

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All kinds of stuff he was basically born with like an extremely bad egg allergy and

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So for us is like for me as a human like I know that my health problems

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They probably took years and years and years to you know

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Manifest or whatever from stress and all that stuff

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But then when there's just a baby born into the world that hasn't had time to accumulate all that

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How do you do you just treat it? Like right now we're just treating it naturally and it's taking a really really long time

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So, I just don't know like are there things I could be doing spiritually like

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Speaking over him. I mean, I don't know. I just I would like to know your opinion on that. Does that make sense?

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So basically, how can I help him heal?

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spiritually

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If there is a lack there spiritually

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Yeah, no, no, you're writing because all sickness that the ultimate root is spiritual. So he's received

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Records from like that through you and through your husband

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Because of the records that you've inherited from your parents or your grandparents and things that they didn't overcome

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That got transferred down whether or not they actually manifested in their life

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you know a lot of times their records came from like their previous generation something that they didn't deal with and and

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Conquer for lack of a better phrase before it was transferred in the DNA to subsequent generations

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So it's just something that is just worn into the generational line

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And and there are ways to that obviously every generation including, you know

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You're see including Eric can overcome it and one of the things that we can do as parents is we can speak over them

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We have a specific measure of authority that we can take

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over

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over our children over those that that are under our protection and

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And

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and you can you can you can you I

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You can speak over him and instead of you can pray for him

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Obviously, you can ask the Lord to reveal things to you, etc

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So that's not a problem

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But in addition to that very powerfully we can command things we can declare things

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We can declare over him what things are actually true about his body because in his spirit

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He's perfect in spirit. He's one with God. He's fully righteous. He's fully healed

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So it's speaking over him and not just verbally

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But internally and with intention that such-and-such is true about his body. So I do that with people

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that don't even know that I am necessarily that I'm praying for them because or

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Or thinking and remembering their illness, etc

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Because I don't even have to speak to someone directly. I just

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Intentionally speak to that. I mean meaning like with them present in the room

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I just send out an intention, you know with my spirit that hey

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You know and I and I address their spirit and I'll say okay or their soul or their body

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I've done all three and and just say okay

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This is who you are and I'm declaring this and standing in my place as the Son of God and I'm declaring that this is

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Who you are and this is who your spirit is and I'm giving you instruction to manifest that I'm telling you

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You know kind of like how I how I recommend that we talk to our own soul in our own spirit

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Hey, there's no reason for us to be afraid

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and then

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there's no reason there so in invite allow the spirit to come in and to

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To heal the trauma or whatever we can do that over people as over other people as well

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We can talk to their soul and we can talk to their body whether or not they're present with this in the room or whether

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We're talking to them on zoom

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I mean like I could be lying in bed at night and

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Sometimes I'll start talking to someone's body or start talking to someone's soul because it's all intention in this spirit. Anyway, we're not limited by the physical

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So I just wanted to mention that you don't have to always say things

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out loud. Of course, that is wonderful. And it's a leverage for our soul to help us,

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to help us kind of like sink our teeth into the fact that yes, I am believing this. Yes,

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I am declaring this and I'm declaring it over his body. I'm telling his body, I'm giving it

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instruction. If he is not old enough to give an instruction himself, I'm doing so. And I'm

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reminding his body, Hey, look, this is who you are. So manifest it. You have not only permission,

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you have command to manifest the truth and to no longer manifest a lie, no longer manifest

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what actually isn't true about you, et cetera. So yeah, you can absolutely declare those things

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from the standpoint that he already is healed. Not that he will be healed because that's

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acknowledging the fact that, Oh, you're not someplace where you should be. But instead,

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actually always addressing it in, in present terms that no, this is who you already are.

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Um, uh, so does that answer your question or did you have an extended?

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Yeah, that makes, that makes a lot of sense. Cause I felt in the past,

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certain times, like when he's got a hold of food, he's allergic to like, it makes me freak out and

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be like all panicky. I'm like, don't eat that. You're going to get sick. And I've been thinking

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about it recently. I'm like, how much of me being an anxious mom and holding on to the fact that he

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has that allergy is still limiting him in his healing journey. So, um, I mean the whole thought

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of like the whole thought of that is completely foreign to me. Cause I've never, I've never

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thought about like, you know, his spirit isn't sick. Like who he is in God is perfectly,

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it's perfectly normal and healthy. Um, but yeah, that totally answers my question. It's very helpful.

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Yeah. Good, good. But yeah. Yeah. Just knowing who it is that he is and being able to declare that

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and nothing wrong with using anything natural, you know, nothing wrong with doing, um, you know,

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using the essential oils and, and steering clear of the things that, that he's reacted to in the

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past. But, but yeah, there's no reason that even if he gets a hold of anything, there's no reason

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to bring fear into the equation. Meaning like fear is only, only stems from a lie. So addressing the

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fact he's just eaten something and, and going through maybe going through the normal steps of,

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okay, this is what we do, but removing the fear out of the equation will reduce the power

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of that allergy and all of that, that, um, is against him because the, because that, because

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you as the higher, so to speak, you as a very, um, as a very powerful authority in the situation

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has the authority to reduce the amount of fear that is, um, uh, instead of feeding the fear of

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this, of the, of the environment. Sorry. Uh, I think that I, I think that I kind of went through

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the back door there, but hopefully that made sense. So yeah. So did anyone else have something?

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I do. Um, am I muted? Yeah, you're unmuted. Yeah, you're good. I can hear you.

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Um, I was going to ask you about free will. I hear people talk about free will all the time

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and, um, how do you reconcile that with the sovereignty of God and, um,

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you know, and then you've said you're exactly where you're supposed to be. So that sounds like

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no matter what I do, I'm where I'm supposed to be. So, I mean, I just can't reconcile all that.

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If God is sovereign, then how much free will do I have? And do I have free will? And as Paul says,

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we're a slave to righteousness or a slave to sin. So that doesn't sound like free will. Um,

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so, and then, and then also, um, um, oh, what was the other thing? Um, anyway, but basically that,

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that, um, yeah, so I feel like looking at my past and seeing times where I made a choice that, um,

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it's almost like here that, like, I can look back and see that we make choices based out of

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where we are and, um, based out of our brokenness. And it's actually a path to our healing because,

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um,

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the brokenness is manifesting in the decision.

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So it's showing us the result of our brokenness.

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Does that make any sense?

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Like the things we choose are coming out

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of the broken places in us.

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And so, or the, you know, unhealthy choices

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or maybe looking back saying,

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oh, I wish I hadn't done that.

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So, I don't know.

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I just feel like, I don't,

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I'd like to hear your explanation of free will

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and how it reconciles with the sovereignty of God

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and examples from the Bible.

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So when you talk,

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how do you define the sovereignty of God?

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That'll help me.

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Well, that he's sovereign.

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His will prevails, you know,

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just like you've said, if he says something,

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then he's gonna do it.

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And so where do we come in in all that?

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I mean, you look at,

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I don't think that anything has that,

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like Adam and Eve eating from the tree.

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Like God didn't go, oh darn, I didn't see that coming.

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You know, it's like actually was probably part

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of his plan A, you know, I don't know.

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I don't know for sure, but yeah.

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So I just, you know, God is sovereign.

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I don't know.

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I'd like to hear you speak on this,

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how the sovereignty of God,

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what your explanation is of the sovereignty of God

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and how that reconciles with man's free will.

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So the, yes, God is sovereign.

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However, he does not,

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he doesn't violate our free will.

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And he invites us to bring ourselves to the table.

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So because it's part of relationship,

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there's relationship isn't relationship unless it's,

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unless, you know, both parties are,

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are, you know, bringing themselves to the table.

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I know I keep saying that.

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So he won't violate it.

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And yet that's because he's chosen that relationship

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is that important to him.

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But as far as, you know, the fact that,

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yeah, God's will is done

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when he's declared something, et cetera.

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But what he's doing is he's fathering us.

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And we're young, we're young in the faith,

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you know, as we start out.

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And then he fathers us into co-laboring with him

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in co-making a decision.

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It kind of like, I mean, kind of like a child

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when a child is very, very young,

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like even think a baby, a baby.

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So whose will prevails ultimately?

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The parents.

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And yet we can't violate a baby's free will

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unless we're starting to get into witchcraft

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or manipulation or abuse, et cetera.

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And so it's kind of like that.

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However, as the baby gets older,

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well then we desire to have

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a more intimate relationship with them.

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We're fathering the baby into as they get older

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to know how to make their own decisions,

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how to execute on their free will,

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how to foster that free will into something beneficial

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that's not destructive to themselves or to other people.

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And then as they do that,

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we have more and more special relationship

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and an intimacy of relationship

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that's developed with that being

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than we had when it was a baby.

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Why?

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Because as it's older,

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it can bring more and more of itself to the table

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because it's been fathered into how to handle itself,

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to know who it is, to be able to eventually

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when they are an adult,

481
00:28:58.080 --> 00:29:00.120
just like their parent is an adult,

482
00:29:00.120 --> 00:29:03.080
that they're on an even playing field.

483
00:29:03.080 --> 00:29:07.840
And so the other person's will isn't being violated

484
00:29:07.840 --> 00:29:11.080
unless they want to violate the relationship

485
00:29:11.080 --> 00:29:13.600
because relationship is a two-way street.

486
00:29:13.600 --> 00:29:18.600
And yet, going back to the Lord,

487
00:29:18.640 --> 00:29:20.080
yeah, God is always sovereign,

488
00:29:20.080 --> 00:29:21.720
but he doesn't use his sovereignty

489
00:29:21.720 --> 00:29:26.720
in order to violate our free will.

490
00:29:27.120 --> 00:29:30.800
And yeah, that's the simplest way I can think of

491
00:29:30.800 --> 00:29:32.920
to describe it and to explain it.

492
00:29:32.920 --> 00:29:35.800
Is there something that you're thinking of particularly

493
00:29:35.800 --> 00:29:39.880
that just kind of bothers you?

494
00:29:39.880 --> 00:29:41.560
Like you were talking about the fact of,

495
00:29:41.560 --> 00:29:43.400
oh, well, if I look in the past,

496
00:29:43.400 --> 00:29:44.960
so it sounded like maybe,

497
00:29:44.960 --> 00:29:46.440
and then you were talking about brokenness,

498
00:29:46.440 --> 00:29:47.840
like, oh, well,

499
00:29:47.840 --> 00:29:50.720
and so I was wondering what your concern was

500
00:29:50.720 --> 00:29:52.120
in looking at the past.

501
00:29:52.120 --> 00:29:53.360
Were you thinking, oh my goodness,

502
00:29:53.360 --> 00:29:54.880
I had all of this brokenness.

503
00:29:56.160 --> 00:29:59.840
Should I bear the responsibility of what it is that I did?

504
00:30:00.000 --> 00:30:06.400
Or it was that God kind of like a similar to a Calvinistic fatalistic approach of,

505
00:30:06.400 --> 00:30:10.240
well, you know, this is just kind of the way that it was.

506
00:30:10.240 --> 00:30:12.680
And I didn't have any, any say in it.

507
00:30:12.680 --> 00:30:15.120
I was just kind of wondering where you were coming from.

508
00:30:15.120 --> 00:30:16.880
No, it wasn't that at all.

509
00:30:16.880 --> 00:30:21.000
Just using the past as an example.

510
00:30:21.000 --> 00:30:26.480
My, so are you, so you're saying,

511
00:30:26.960 --> 00:30:30.160
so we wouldn't even come to the Lord except he draws us.

512
00:30:30.160 --> 00:30:35.160
So everything starts with God.

513
00:30:36.080 --> 00:30:40.560
And so we're in the equation, like, yeah,

514
00:30:40.560 --> 00:30:45.240
after you have surrendered your life to the Lord,

515
00:30:45.240 --> 00:30:49.360
if you do that, like, see, I didn't even do that.

516
00:30:49.360 --> 00:30:51.640
The Lord just overwhelmed me.

517
00:30:51.640 --> 00:30:56.240
So it's really hard for me to understand.

518
00:30:56.240 --> 00:30:59.280
People say they surrendered to the Lord.

519
00:30:59.280 --> 00:31:02.800
In my case, that was like saying I surrendered to a tidal wave.

520
00:31:02.800 --> 00:31:05.400
Literally, I didn't have any choice.

521
00:31:05.400 --> 00:31:08.680
And I'm glad I don't, I'm not like, oh God, you violated my will.

522
00:31:08.680 --> 00:31:14.480
I mean, I was seeking him, but it was only because he was drawing me.

523
00:31:14.480 --> 00:31:21.320
And so, but you still chose, you still chose the tidal wave.

524
00:31:21.320 --> 00:31:23.720
Some people don't choose the tidal wave.

525
00:31:23.720 --> 00:31:27.280
So you don't see how you did it.

526
00:31:27.280 --> 00:31:29.720
I'm not using that example lightly.

527
00:31:29.720 --> 00:31:33.840
I didn't choose anything.

528
00:31:33.840 --> 00:31:41.760
I might've chosen to respond to him wooing me in that I was seeking him,

529
00:31:41.760 --> 00:31:43.720
but that was only because he was drawing me.

530
00:31:43.720 --> 00:31:45.400
That's what Jesus said.

531
00:31:45.400 --> 00:31:49.440
So none of my salvation, I didn't bring anything to the table.

532
00:31:49.440 --> 00:31:51.200
I don't believe we choose God.

533
00:31:51.200 --> 00:31:52.600
We can't choose God.

534
00:31:52.600 --> 00:31:54.880
If we're fallen, how do we choose God?

535
00:31:54.880 --> 00:31:56.200
We don't, we can't.

536
00:31:56.200 --> 00:31:58.200
So he has to draw us.

537
00:31:58.200 --> 00:31:59.320
And so it's all him.

538
00:31:59.320 --> 00:32:01.120
He initiates all of it.

539
00:32:01.120 --> 00:32:05.200
So, I mean, that's just, I, that has been my experience,

540
00:32:05.200 --> 00:32:07.960
and that's my understanding of what the scripture says.

541
00:32:07.960 --> 00:32:11.320
So I just, I'm just trying to seek free will.

542
00:32:11.320 --> 00:32:19.200
I mean, I don't know where, I don't think that that plays into salvation.

543
00:32:19.240 --> 00:32:23.400
I don't think anyone who encounters the love of God can refuse it,

544
00:32:23.400 --> 00:32:26.480
but I'm not really talking about salvation.

545
00:32:26.480 --> 00:32:28.920
I'm just trying to understand, you know,

546
00:32:28.920 --> 00:32:32.000
what you're saying about free will is all in context of sonship.

547
00:32:32.000 --> 00:32:33.280
So I'm already a son.

548
00:32:33.280 --> 00:32:36.000
So I choose whether or not to co-labor with God.

549
00:32:36.000 --> 00:32:40.440
So is that the extent of free will that when you say free will,

550
00:32:40.440 --> 00:32:44.800
what you're talking about?

551
00:32:44.800 --> 00:32:50.600
So free will is strictly in relationship to co-laboring with God?

552
00:32:50.600 --> 00:32:52.200
Right.

553
00:32:52.200 --> 00:32:54.920
And decision making, that kind of stuff.

554
00:32:54.920 --> 00:32:55.480
Yeah.

555
00:32:55.480 --> 00:33:01.720
So I was actually extending it beyond what I,

556
00:33:01.720 --> 00:33:06.000
it sounds like you take free will.

557
00:33:06.000 --> 00:33:10.920
So I was extending it across everything, including salvation.

558
00:33:10.920 --> 00:33:16.520
Now, yes, there is a very interesting component in the fact that,

559
00:33:16.520 --> 00:33:21.440
so in other words, my point is that you and I might see it a bit differently,

560
00:33:21.440 --> 00:33:23.000
which is perfectly fine.

561
00:33:23.000 --> 00:33:26.520
I was just letting you know you were asking, you know, what I was addressing.

562
00:33:26.520 --> 00:33:28.600
I'm literally addressing the whole thing,

563
00:33:28.600 --> 00:33:31.960
which sounds like it might be more extensive than the way that you see it.

564
00:33:31.960 --> 00:33:37.200
So, but yes, there is a sovereignty of God and God does initiate everything,

565
00:33:37.200 --> 00:33:39.840
which is really, really sweet and really special.

566
00:33:39.840 --> 00:33:44.640
So he initiates everything and then we choose whether or not we want to respond to it.

567
00:33:44.640 --> 00:33:51.200
Now, eventually it can get to the point where we all choose to what level that we're

568
00:33:51.200 --> 00:33:57.720
going, that we're willing to hold out before we choose him in response.

569
00:33:57.720 --> 00:33:58.920
That's what I mean by choose him.

570
00:33:58.920 --> 00:34:00.080
I don't mean we initiate.

571
00:34:00.080 --> 00:34:04.040
I mean that, I mean that we respond because that's a choice.

572
00:34:04.040 --> 00:34:07.960
So he may, he chose us and then we decide whether or not we choose him.

573
00:34:07.960 --> 00:34:09.600
It's not that we're choosing him first.

574
00:34:09.600 --> 00:34:15.120
So you choose him back and it depends on how far, and everyone's different.

575
00:34:15.120 --> 00:34:19.159
So some people, he might pursue him this much and they immediately choose him.

576
00:34:19.159 --> 00:34:22.960
Other people, he goes this far and they still resist and they still resist and they still,

577
00:34:22.960 --> 00:34:26.120
and then finally, you know, then they respond.

578
00:34:26.120 --> 00:34:30.159
And so my personal belief is that it's kind of like that,

579
00:34:30.159 --> 00:34:33.239
that's the whole sovereignty where it sometimes gets a little confusing.

580
00:34:33.239 --> 00:34:38.960
I believe that he can, in a way, win in the end without going into all the details

581
00:34:38.960 --> 00:34:41.280
of why I believe that, the win in the end.

582
00:34:41.280 --> 00:34:44.719
So in other words, his sovereignty and his, and his will,

583
00:34:44.719 --> 00:34:51.440
and the fact that he's decided how it's going to be and we can't help but respond is true.

584
00:34:51.440 --> 00:35:00.000
But I believe that there is, the choice comes as far as like how quickly we choose him.

585
00:35:00.000 --> 00:35:08.000
Like, is it pretty soon or do we hold out really hard and far against him?

586
00:35:08.000 --> 00:35:09.720
Some people, because they say,

587
00:35:09.720 --> 00:35:11.240
and this is what I personally believe,

588
00:35:11.240 --> 00:35:13.080
I don't know this 100 percent for sure,

589
00:35:13.080 --> 00:35:16.600
but this is what I personally believe based off of stories that I've heard,

590
00:35:16.600 --> 00:35:21.440
that talk about whether or not,

591
00:35:21.440 --> 00:35:24.520
talk about free will all the way going to the end of life,

592
00:35:24.520 --> 00:35:27.600
that people choose that are given.

593
00:35:27.600 --> 00:35:31.440
I believe that Jesus presents himself to everybody right before they die,

594
00:35:31.440 --> 00:35:36.440
if they haven't chosen him yet and they have the opportunity to choose him.

595
00:35:36.440 --> 00:35:40.800
I've talked to a variety of people that believe that to varying degrees.

596
00:35:40.800 --> 00:35:45.880
But the point is that there are some people that still reject him at that point.

597
00:35:45.880 --> 00:35:47.520
God says that even in the Bible,

598
00:35:47.520 --> 00:35:48.680
even in Revelation,

599
00:35:48.680 --> 00:35:50.520
he says that when people present,

600
00:35:50.520 --> 00:35:52.120
they're presented with everything.

601
00:35:52.120 --> 00:35:55.320
I mean, it's like they're face-to-face with Jesus.

602
00:35:55.320 --> 00:35:58.000
Jesus is like, hey, will you accept me?

603
00:35:58.000 --> 00:36:02.240
They're like, no. Then they go off and they rebel,

604
00:36:02.240 --> 00:36:04.720
and they rebel against the city of Zion,

605
00:36:04.720 --> 00:36:06.960
they rebel against the people of the Lord,

606
00:36:06.960 --> 00:36:12.520
and they still absolutely refuse in the face of it.

607
00:36:12.520 --> 00:36:15.480
There's a choice in that.

608
00:36:15.480 --> 00:36:19.320
Then in the between time is the co-laboring with God.

609
00:36:19.320 --> 00:36:24.920
Regardless, it's always an aspect of something that we're choosing in our relationship with him,

610
00:36:24.920 --> 00:36:27.200
whether we're choosing to partner with him period,

611
00:36:27.200 --> 00:36:35.640
or we're already in partnership with him and we are deciding about how to make a decision.

612
00:36:35.640 --> 00:36:37.440
Should I buy a house?

613
00:36:37.440 --> 00:36:40.960
Should I get into such and such a relationship?

614
00:36:41.320 --> 00:36:43.480
Should I have children?

615
00:36:43.480 --> 00:36:45.160
What should I name my child?

616
00:36:45.160 --> 00:36:47.360
Should I start using essential oils?

617
00:36:47.360 --> 00:36:49.160
Should I not use essential oils?

618
00:36:49.160 --> 00:36:51.840
Should I start a coffee shop?

619
00:36:52.280 --> 00:36:56.080
It's all God desires,

620
00:36:56.080 --> 00:36:59.160
the type of relationship with him in which we are co-laboring,

621
00:36:59.160 --> 00:37:02.320
and we can bring ourselves to the table or not.

622
00:37:02.320 --> 00:37:05.520
We can just say, well, I'm just a servant, Lord, whatever you want.

623
00:37:05.520 --> 00:37:08.600
God's like, okay, I'll tell you what I want.

624
00:37:08.600 --> 00:37:11.800
But what I would really like is this whole relationship where

625
00:37:11.800 --> 00:37:16.000
you're mentioning what it is that you would like,

626
00:37:16.000 --> 00:37:18.240
where you're bringing your desires,

627
00:37:18.240 --> 00:37:21.440
and he gives us that opportunity.

628
00:37:21.480 --> 00:37:27.520
I spent the majority of my life not even telling him what it is that I wanted.

629
00:37:28.400 --> 00:37:32.080
I just thought, well, it's the sovereignty of God prevails.

630
00:37:32.080 --> 00:37:33.800
What I want, I'm a worm.

631
00:37:33.800 --> 00:37:35.720
What I want doesn't matter,

632
00:37:35.720 --> 00:37:37.760
and then whatever you want, God.

633
00:37:37.760 --> 00:37:39.680
Then he eventually had to tell me, no, Ashley,

634
00:37:39.680 --> 00:37:42.240
I do value what you have to bring,

635
00:37:42.240 --> 00:37:45.920
and I desire that to be part of the decision together.

636
00:37:45.920 --> 00:37:53.200
But he wouldn't, what do you call that?

637
00:37:53.200 --> 00:37:55.960
I've lost the word that I've been using,

638
00:37:55.960 --> 00:37:59.520
but anyway, overpower my will.

639
00:37:59.520 --> 00:38:02.840
He does as a loving and protective parent,

640
00:38:02.840 --> 00:38:05.520
keep me from destroying myself.

641
00:38:05.520 --> 00:38:10.200
He does that, but he doesn't violate my will,

642
00:38:10.240 --> 00:38:16.400
but he will protect me from destroying myself ultimately.

643
00:38:16.400 --> 00:38:22.160
Okay. Well, I think I figured out what my question is.

644
00:38:22.160 --> 00:38:29.280
Okay. So all of those come together to this question.

645
00:38:29.280 --> 00:38:33.440
Can anyone resist the will of God?

646
00:38:33.440 --> 00:38:34.680
Okay.

647
00:38:34.680 --> 00:38:38.680
Yeah. I mean, aren't there scriptures that say no one can?

648
00:38:39.320 --> 00:38:42.400
Yeah. So that's why I started kind of going backwards from that.

649
00:38:42.400 --> 00:38:43.600
Do we really have free will?

650
00:38:43.600 --> 00:38:47.240
God always gets his way, not in an overpowering way.

651
00:38:47.240 --> 00:38:49.880
It might not be like, for example,

652
00:38:49.880 --> 00:38:52.720
the first generation that didn't enter the promised land.

653
00:38:52.720 --> 00:38:56.440
Well, then it was the next generation.

654
00:38:56.440 --> 00:39:02.160
So he always gets his way, but anyway.

655
00:39:02.160 --> 00:39:05.560
But the question is, in our individual lives,

656
00:39:05.560 --> 00:39:11.400
if he has, you know, ordained something to be,

657
00:39:11.400 --> 00:39:15.880
has he revealed something to us?

658
00:39:15.880 --> 00:39:19.400
Can anyone resist his will?

659
00:39:19.400 --> 00:39:20.920
Yeah. Okay. Good point.

660
00:39:20.920 --> 00:39:27.800
So we cannot thwart something that God has decided that he wants to do.

661
00:39:27.800 --> 00:39:32.920
If we do not partner with him in the way that he desires us to partner with him,

662
00:39:32.920 --> 00:39:36.360
he will find another way to do it.

663
00:39:36.360 --> 00:39:39.840
And because he, remember, we were talking about this the other day

664
00:39:39.840 --> 00:39:43.360
when we were talking about, you know, God giving us,

665
00:39:43.360 --> 00:39:45.840
like someone saying that God had promised them

666
00:39:45.840 --> 00:39:48.600
that they were going to get married to a specific person,

667
00:39:48.600 --> 00:39:51.880
or, you know, that God had promised them a specific house or whatever.

668
00:39:51.880 --> 00:39:55.120
Well, we were talking about the fact that other people's wills

669
00:39:55.120 --> 00:39:56.240
are involved in all of that,

670
00:39:56.240 --> 00:39:59.560
whether it be the sellers of the house or the other person, you know,

671
00:39:59.560 --> 00:40:00.560
That's a great point.

672
00:40:00.000 --> 00:40:02.640
this person would be marrying that God promised,

673
00:40:00.560 --> 00:40:01.560
I'm just going to skip it.

674
00:40:01.560 --> 00:40:02.560
I'm just going to skip it.

675
00:40:02.560 --> 00:40:02.560


676
00:40:02.640 --> 00:40:05.000
you know, person A that they would marry person B.

677
00:40:05.000 --> 00:40:10.000
Well, did, is person B's will is involved in that as well.

678
00:40:10.840 --> 00:40:15.840
And so God, if God made a promise to us,

679
00:40:17.000 --> 00:40:19.040
even if other people's wills are involved,

680
00:40:19.040 --> 00:40:24.040
God's promise to us absolutely 100% will never be thwarted.

681
00:40:24.080 --> 00:40:26.400
If we choose to stand on his promise,

682
00:40:26.400 --> 00:40:31.400
it cannot be thwarted by someone else ever, period.

683
00:40:31.560 --> 00:40:36.560
It's just that it won't always manifest in the way

684
00:40:38.920 --> 00:40:42.000
that we maybe had anticipated it would,

685
00:40:42.000 --> 00:40:43.680
but it will always manifest.

686
00:40:43.680 --> 00:40:45.080
Case in point, what you brought up

687
00:40:45.080 --> 00:40:46.900
was a really good example in the Bible

688
00:40:46.900 --> 00:40:49.720
where God had promised Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob,

689
00:40:49.720 --> 00:40:51.160
hey, you know, I'm gonna leave,

690
00:40:51.160 --> 00:40:52.680
bring your people out of Egypt,

691
00:40:52.680 --> 00:40:55.480
and then I promise I'm gonna give them to,

692
00:40:55.480 --> 00:40:57.080
allow them to conquer the promised land,

693
00:40:57.080 --> 00:40:58.760
I'm gonna give it to them, et cetera.

694
00:40:58.760 --> 00:41:02.800
Well, you know, they had the opportunity to step into that,

695
00:41:02.800 --> 00:41:05.240
and they said no, and God's like, fine,

696
00:41:05.240 --> 00:41:06.520
I'm not gonna make you.

697
00:41:06.520 --> 00:41:08.040
You have the opportunity to receive it

698
00:41:08.040 --> 00:41:09.200
because I've already given it to you,

699
00:41:09.200 --> 00:41:10.640
but I'm not gonna make you receive it.

700
00:41:10.640 --> 00:41:12.320
I'm not gonna violate your will.

701
00:41:12.320 --> 00:41:13.960
You've made a choice, so you go on.

702
00:41:13.960 --> 00:41:16.640
However, my promise still stands,

703
00:41:16.640 --> 00:41:20.960
and I will make sure that my word is always kept.

704
00:41:20.960 --> 00:41:22.760
And so I'm just going to wait

705
00:41:22.760 --> 00:41:26.000
until someone is willing to receive it,

706
00:41:26.000 --> 00:41:28.440
to partner with me to receive it.

707
00:41:28.440 --> 00:41:30.960
But I'm going to continue to look for

708
00:41:30.960 --> 00:41:32.440
and prepare people in the earth

709
00:41:32.440 --> 00:41:36.080
that will, through that art,

710
00:41:36.080 --> 00:41:41.080
that desire to see my promise manifested in their life

711
00:41:41.840 --> 00:41:43.400
and partner with it.

712
00:41:43.400 --> 00:41:44.960
That was a perfect example.

713
00:41:46.400 --> 00:41:48.160
Did I answer the question?

714
00:41:48.160 --> 00:41:49.200
Yeah, yeah.

715
00:41:50.280 --> 00:41:51.120
Okay.

716
00:41:53.760 --> 00:41:58.760
So, hey, Susan, glad you were able to jump on.

717
00:42:04.280 --> 00:42:07.440
Let's see, I think I missed something somewhere.

718
00:42:10.520 --> 00:42:14.320
Yeah, I know, sorry, I was just looking at the chats.

719
00:42:14.320 --> 00:42:18.160
Yeah, the fact that we were taught that we were just worms.

720
00:42:18.160 --> 00:42:19.480
Yeah, I know.

721
00:42:19.600 --> 00:42:22.840
I was never given that word, but that's how I felt.

722
00:42:25.040 --> 00:42:30.040
So, and did anyone have another, any other question?

723
00:42:31.520 --> 00:42:34.120
Hey, Renee, you're on, how are you?

724
00:42:35.080 --> 00:42:37.280
It's a pretty profile picture you've got.

725
00:42:39.320 --> 00:42:41.720
Hey, sorry, I had to run an errand for,

726
00:42:43.160 --> 00:42:46.680
so I had to have you on,

727
00:42:46.680 --> 00:42:47.760
or I had to have my picture on,

728
00:42:47.760 --> 00:42:49.960
because I was in safe driving mode, so.

729
00:42:50.840 --> 00:42:53.320
That's good, that's good, yeah.

730
00:42:54.320 --> 00:42:56.480
I don't even know, oh, no, I do have a picture.

731
00:42:56.480 --> 00:42:58.160
I was gonna say, I don't even know if I have a picture,

732
00:42:58.160 --> 00:43:00.360
well, mine's off, but yeah.

733
00:43:01.800 --> 00:43:03.160
Yeah, well, good, it's good to see you.

734
00:43:03.160 --> 00:43:06.320
It was fun to see you in person the other day at,

735
00:43:06.320 --> 00:43:08.960
for those of you who don't know,

736
00:43:08.960 --> 00:43:11.960
so Amy, Renee and I all live in the area,

737
00:43:11.960 --> 00:43:15.880
and Amy, you know, obviously just moved into her new house,

738
00:43:15.880 --> 00:43:17.560
so she had a housewarming party,

739
00:43:18.360 --> 00:43:20.440
and Renee and I had already had lunch together

740
00:43:20.440 --> 00:43:21.640
several weeks ago,

741
00:43:22.800 --> 00:43:24.680
but she and I got to see each other again

742
00:43:24.680 --> 00:43:26.720
at Amy's housewarming, so.

743
00:43:28.680 --> 00:43:32.240
Yeah, I even liked Amy's house better in person

744
00:43:32.240 --> 00:43:34.160
than I did in the pictures that I saw,

745
00:43:34.160 --> 00:43:35.000
so I really liked it.

746
00:43:35.000 --> 00:43:37.000
Yeah, it's so pretty.

747
00:43:37.000 --> 00:43:38.480
Yeah, pretty.

748
00:43:38.480 --> 00:43:40.280
Yeah, thanks for coming, you guys,

749
00:43:40.280 --> 00:43:42.800
and that was a far piece for you, Renee.

750
00:43:42.800 --> 00:43:43.640
I appreciate you coming all the way over.

751
00:43:43.640 --> 00:43:45.960
I would miss it, of course, I wouldn't miss it.

752
00:43:45.960 --> 00:43:46.800
I'd miss it.

753
00:43:48.560 --> 00:43:52.160
Okay, so does anyone have anything

754
00:43:52.160 --> 00:43:55.640
in the last several minutes before we jump off?

755
00:43:57.040 --> 00:43:59.920
Question or anything, Laura's been just,

756
00:43:59.920 --> 00:44:03.800
I don't know, kind of, I mean, tossing around with the Lord,

757
00:44:03.800 --> 00:44:06.760
and while y'all are, while y'all come up with something,

758
00:44:06.760 --> 00:44:11.120
I'm trying to think if there was anything for me.

759
00:44:11.120 --> 00:44:13.440
He was, is working on moving me

760
00:44:13.440 --> 00:44:16.320
into a greater measure of rest today,

761
00:44:16.320 --> 00:44:18.560
which I was able to finally shift into.

762
00:44:19.800 --> 00:44:23.720
I'd been struggling with something recently,

763
00:44:23.720 --> 00:44:25.520
and I don't even really know how to name it,

764
00:44:25.520 --> 00:44:29.200
but just struggling, you know,

765
00:44:29.200 --> 00:44:31.440
just very foundational things, you know,

766
00:44:31.440 --> 00:44:36.000
provision, protection, identity, all of the basic ones,

767
00:44:36.000 --> 00:44:41.000
and he was just having me face a deeper level of it,

768
00:44:42.000 --> 00:44:47.000
so today, I really got down to,

769
00:44:47.480 --> 00:44:49.040
okay, what is it that I need to do?

770
00:44:49.040 --> 00:44:53.040
What am I, and not from a level of,

771
00:44:53.040 --> 00:44:55.600
okay, let's figure all of this out,

772
00:44:55.600 --> 00:44:58.160
and what's really going on, and whatever.

773
00:44:58.160 --> 00:45:00.080
It was more of an understanding.

774
00:45:00.000 --> 00:45:04.760
of, okay, what's going on is in like, am I in a state of, I'm obviously in a state of

775
00:45:04.760 --> 00:45:06.280
resistance.

776
00:45:06.280 --> 00:45:11.400
You know, I'm, what lie am I believing about the Lord?

777
00:45:11.400 --> 00:45:13.920
And I realized, I don't believe he's going to protect me.

778
00:45:13.920 --> 00:45:17.520
I don't believe he's going to provide for me in such and such an area.

779
00:45:17.520 --> 00:45:21.720
I thought I'm in a state of resistance so that, okay, I know what to do.

780
00:45:21.720 --> 00:45:26.760
So, so I was out and, and, and, uh, finally got down to kind of like that place of my

781
00:45:26.760 --> 00:45:29.600
soul and just had to let it go.

782
00:45:29.600 --> 00:45:33.960
And what I did is I chose, so you remember, there's the thing of like, we have to see

783
00:45:33.960 --> 00:45:34.960
it to believe it.

784
00:45:34.960 --> 00:45:36.160
And that's the state that I was in.

785
00:45:36.160 --> 00:45:40.920
I was like looking for proof, but it's such a habit.

786
00:45:40.920 --> 00:45:43.120
I don't realize that that's what I'm doing.

787
00:45:43.120 --> 00:45:46.080
I don't know if y'all experienced this.

788
00:45:46.080 --> 00:45:51.680
I, I, I know all of this stuff in my head and yet I, I'm continually finding myself

789
00:45:51.680 --> 00:45:56.040
doing it in different areas and, and I have to realize what is it that I'm doing?

790
00:45:56.040 --> 00:45:59.160
I thought I'm waiting for proof.

791
00:45:59.160 --> 00:46:03.720
That's why I haven't shifted yet in this one area of just waiting for proof.

792
00:46:03.720 --> 00:46:05.480
And cause I didn't know, why am I struggling?

793
00:46:05.480 --> 00:46:06.480
I know better than this.

794
00:46:06.480 --> 00:46:07.480
Why am I struggling?

795
00:46:07.480 --> 00:46:13.280
I was waiting for proof, apparently emotional, uh, scriptural, whatever.

796
00:46:13.280 --> 00:46:14.280
Then I was waiting for that.

797
00:46:14.280 --> 00:46:15.400
So I could believe in that.

798
00:46:15.400 --> 00:46:17.560
So I could finally act on it.

799
00:46:17.560 --> 00:46:19.400
And finally I realized what was going on.

800
00:46:19.400 --> 00:46:21.480
I thought, Ashley, you know what to do.

801
00:46:21.480 --> 00:46:24.800
You choose first, you choose it.

802
00:46:24.800 --> 00:46:30.360
So I, so I wrote it down to remind myself what it was I was choosing this morning and

803
00:46:30.360 --> 00:46:37.080
let's see if I could, I'll, I'll tell you what it was, but I wrote down, I told myself

804
00:46:37.080 --> 00:46:41.800
and I wrote it down as a note so that I would see it when I opened my phone.

805
00:46:41.800 --> 00:46:50.960
Um, uh, so I, because I was just feeling, um, uh, it would just kind of like, uh, the

806
00:46:50.960 --> 00:46:58.600
way that we all have our struggles and the way that, um, I, that I grew up, there were

807
00:46:58.600 --> 00:47:05.680
certain needs and that I had in certain lives that I had believed about myself.

808
00:47:05.680 --> 00:47:08.400
And there were certain, therefore certain desires that I had.

809
00:47:08.400 --> 00:47:14.840
So in other words, I was very much loved, um, by people growing up and yet I was continually

810
00:47:14.840 --> 00:47:21.280
risk, the continually received the things that I saw and heard as lies about myself

811
00:47:21.280 --> 00:47:29.960
that I wasn't worthy of, of love that I, um, uh, that I couldn't expect to be enjoyed or

812
00:47:29.960 --> 00:47:34.200
cherished or, or whatever, even though I was given all of those things.

813
00:47:34.200 --> 00:47:38.440
And now hindsight's 20, 20, I look back, I'm like, Oh my word, my life was full of that.

814
00:47:38.440 --> 00:47:41.920
At the time I received a lie, I didn't receive the truth.

815
00:47:41.920 --> 00:47:45.480
And so that was something that I was struggling with because it was what I was feeling like

816
00:47:45.480 --> 00:47:49.200
in the, in the, in the natural, I projected that onto the Lord.

817
00:47:49.200 --> 00:47:50.960
That's how I began to understand the Lord.

818
00:47:50.960 --> 00:47:56.920
So I'm like, okay, if I can't expect it from people, I absolutely can expect it from the

819
00:47:56.920 --> 00:47:57.920
Lord.

820
00:47:57.920 --> 00:47:59.240
So I realized that's my issue there.

821
00:47:59.240 --> 00:48:03.800
So I told the Lord today, I said, okay, I choose to believe that God, that God, you

822
00:48:03.800 --> 00:48:08.120
know, you Lord chose, I choose to believe that God loves and comforts and treasures

823
00:48:08.120 --> 00:48:17.520
me as much as I desire a person to, um, because I was struggling to, I was, I found myself

824
00:48:17.520 --> 00:48:25.200
in, in, um, not traps, well, they were traps, but in, um, choices that I was making, trying

825
00:48:25.200 --> 00:48:32.600
to comfort something in me that God intended to provide for me.

826
00:48:32.600 --> 00:48:35.360
And I knew I was using substitutes.

827
00:48:35.360 --> 00:48:36.960
We do that with all kinds of things.

828
00:48:36.960 --> 00:48:38.320
We do that with buying things.

829
00:48:38.320 --> 00:48:39.760
We do that with food.

830
00:48:39.760 --> 00:48:41.200
We do that with relationships.

831
00:48:41.200 --> 00:48:43.440
We do that with all kinds of stuff.

832
00:48:43.440 --> 00:48:54.480
And, um, uh, so anyway, I, I needed to believe that because I felt alone, I felt it was,

833
00:48:54.480 --> 00:48:58.480
it's a mode of self comfort because I wasn't receiving comfort from the Lord because I

834
00:48:58.480 --> 00:49:00.920
was, I was not receiving it.

835
00:49:00.920 --> 00:49:01.920
He was giving it.

836
00:49:01.920 --> 00:49:03.360
I wasn't receiving it.

837
00:49:03.360 --> 00:49:08.160
And so I, anyway, I just told the Lord is that I, okay, Lord, I'm not, I'm not waiting

838
00:49:08.160 --> 00:49:09.160
for proof.

839
00:49:09.160 --> 00:49:10.360
I'm not waiting to believe it.

840
00:49:10.360 --> 00:49:12.280
I'm actively choosing this.

841
00:49:12.280 --> 00:49:13.280
I'm choosing that.

842
00:49:13.280 --> 00:49:14.280
It's my reality.

843
00:49:14.280 --> 00:49:15.280
I'm choosing that.

844
00:49:15.280 --> 00:49:16.280
This is who you are.

845
00:49:16.280 --> 00:49:19.880
And I choose to believe that God loves and comforts and treasures me as much as I desire

846
00:49:19.880 --> 00:49:21.600
someone to.

847
00:49:21.600 --> 00:49:22.600
And I shifted.

848
00:49:22.600 --> 00:49:24.480
All I did was choose.

849
00:49:24.480 --> 00:49:25.480
That was it.

850
00:49:25.480 --> 00:49:27.320
So, um, which is really nice.

851
00:49:27.320 --> 00:49:32.000
So once I chose it, I'm already believing it, but I'm coming, I know that God's going

852
00:49:32.000 --> 00:49:38.440
to continue to, to grow me to the point where I will, um, where I will believe it even more

853
00:49:38.440 --> 00:49:39.440
again.

854
00:49:39.440 --> 00:49:40.440
It's effortless.

855
00:49:40.440 --> 00:49:42.040
I'm not trying to believe it.

856
00:49:42.040 --> 00:49:43.960
All I did is I had to choose.

857
00:49:43.960 --> 00:49:48.480
That was the thing that I had to do, but I know that I'm going to come to believe it

858
00:49:48.480 --> 00:49:49.480
more and more.

859
00:49:49.480 --> 00:49:54.520
And as I believe it, I'm going to see it manifest, um, and, and, um, actually see proof of it,

860
00:49:54.520 --> 00:49:59.920
proof in scripture that that is true, but also proof in, in how it re it.

861
00:50:00.000 --> 00:50:01.520
manifest into reality.

862
00:50:01.520 --> 00:50:03.880
Because see, yesterday, and I just want to mention this

863
00:50:03.880 --> 00:50:07.000
as an encouragement to y'all, part of the struggle

864
00:50:07.000 --> 00:50:09.920
is that I was waiting in anticipation

865
00:50:09.920 --> 00:50:12.880
that for something to happen yesterday,

866
00:50:12.880 --> 00:50:14.600
that, you know, talking about like,

867
00:50:14.600 --> 00:50:17.760
for instance, you, Carrie, you know, the house.

868
00:50:17.760 --> 00:50:20.840
I know, I'm sorry, I know we keep bringing up that example,

869
00:50:20.840 --> 00:50:21.960
but hey, it's a great example,

870
00:50:21.960 --> 00:50:24.160
and you know, you've written posts about it and whatever,

871
00:50:24.160 --> 00:50:29.160
so it's kind of like a good one page for us to all be on.

872
00:50:29.680 --> 00:50:31.240
Where we were like, okay, Lord,

873
00:50:31.240 --> 00:50:36.080
I'm wanting to believe you for this thing right here.

874
00:50:36.080 --> 00:50:38.760
Well, there was something that I was believing the Lord for.

875
00:50:38.760 --> 00:50:40.440
I was trying not to, I was like,

876
00:50:40.440 --> 00:50:42.560
no, Lord, you'll just provide for me.

877
00:50:42.560 --> 00:50:44.040
I don't know how you'll provide for me,

878
00:50:44.040 --> 00:50:45.160
you'll provide for me.

879
00:50:45.160 --> 00:50:48.200
But I expected that it would manifest

880
00:50:48.200 --> 00:50:50.600
in this particular way, because I didn't see

881
00:50:50.600 --> 00:50:53.000
how him not coming through in this way

882
00:50:53.000 --> 00:50:54.540
could in any way be good.

883
00:50:55.440 --> 00:50:56.640
I knew better than that,

884
00:50:56.640 --> 00:50:58.640
but I didn't believe better than that, right?

885
00:50:59.360 --> 00:51:00.720
And do you know what happened?

886
00:51:00.720 --> 00:51:02.600
That thing fell through.

887
00:51:02.600 --> 00:51:04.000
It did not manifest.

888
00:51:04.000 --> 00:51:07.140
Now, God did still provide for me,

889
00:51:07.140 --> 00:51:11.400
but it was not in the way I was expecting at all.

890
00:51:11.400 --> 00:51:13.820
I'm like, Lord, that still create,

891
00:51:13.820 --> 00:51:18.240
that still, it's like it felt, how would I read this?

892
00:51:18.240 --> 00:51:21.040
It provided for me.

893
00:51:21.040 --> 00:51:22.100
Okay, think of it like this.

894
00:51:22.100 --> 00:51:24.140
Think of like you wanted something,

895
00:51:24.140 --> 00:51:25.600
I'm trying to use an example.

896
00:51:25.640 --> 00:51:29.700
Think of the fact that you, I don't know,

897
00:51:29.700 --> 00:51:31.440
you want food, right?

898
00:51:31.440 --> 00:51:34.640
You need money to buy food.

899
00:51:34.640 --> 00:51:37.240
That's the thing, you want money to buy food,

900
00:51:37.240 --> 00:51:38.440
that was not my issue.

901
00:51:38.440 --> 00:51:41.100
But, and you're like, okay, Lord,

902
00:51:41.100 --> 00:51:42.480
I'm believing you for some money,

903
00:51:42.480 --> 00:51:44.040
so I can go and buy food.

904
00:51:44.040 --> 00:51:46.000
And instead, God doesn't give you money.

905
00:51:46.000 --> 00:51:48.560
And the time comes and goes, he didn't give you money.

906
00:51:48.560 --> 00:51:50.880
Instead, he just made you not be hungry.

907
00:51:51.880 --> 00:51:56.720
So, you're like, okay, well, Lord, you provided for me.

908
00:51:56.720 --> 00:52:01.440
And yet, what was gonna make me feel comforted

909
00:52:01.440 --> 00:52:03.600
was according to my old mindset,

910
00:52:04.600 --> 00:52:06.720
I believe that provision, Lord,

911
00:52:06.720 --> 00:52:09.040
is you giving me money or giving me food,

912
00:52:09.040 --> 00:52:10.240
and you didn't give me either.

913
00:52:10.240 --> 00:52:12.400
Instead, you just made me not hungry.

914
00:52:12.400 --> 00:52:14.440
So yes, technically, Lord, I agree.

915
00:52:14.440 --> 00:52:15.880
That was providing for me.

916
00:52:15.880 --> 00:52:18.400
And yet, if this mindset shift of,

917
00:52:18.400 --> 00:52:20.960
yeah, but God, you didn't give me food.

918
00:52:20.960 --> 00:52:24.160
And so, what we can do is we can look at that and think,

919
00:52:24.160 --> 00:52:26.520
and take that into our future and go and see,

920
00:52:26.520 --> 00:52:28.280
sometimes he falls through,

921
00:52:28.280 --> 00:52:30.320
and sometimes he's not faithful.

922
00:52:30.320 --> 00:52:33.520
And sometimes he doesn't come through

923
00:52:33.520 --> 00:52:35.120
and manifest in a particular way.

924
00:52:35.120 --> 00:52:40.120
So, is this one of the chosen times or not

925
00:52:40.840 --> 00:52:42.720
in which he's going to come through?

926
00:52:42.720 --> 00:52:45.480
And we get scared in anticipation of something.

927
00:52:45.480 --> 00:52:47.680
So, that's what happened to me yesterday.

928
00:52:47.840 --> 00:52:49.800
Okay, Lord, he provided for me,

929
00:52:49.800 --> 00:52:52.360
but it was not in the way

930
00:52:52.360 --> 00:52:54.400
that my old paradigm understood provision.

931
00:52:54.400 --> 00:52:55.920
And so, he's trying to shift me

932
00:52:55.920 --> 00:52:59.200
into a new way of choosing to perceive provision.

933
00:53:00.120 --> 00:53:02.040
So, today, I was really going to him.

934
00:53:02.040 --> 00:53:03.160
I was like, okay, Lord,

935
00:53:03.160 --> 00:53:05.000
I know I'm really struggling with you,

936
00:53:05.000 --> 00:53:08.600
and I'm sorry, but I'm afraid.

937
00:53:08.600 --> 00:53:10.080
I don't feel that you love me.

938
00:53:10.080 --> 00:53:12.280
I don't feel that I can expect to be comforted.

939
00:53:12.280 --> 00:53:13.320
I'm terrified.

940
00:53:13.320 --> 00:53:16.160
I'm all of these things I was telling him.

941
00:53:16.160 --> 00:53:17.720
And I suddenly realized, okay,

942
00:53:17.720 --> 00:53:19.440
I was looking at the physical world

943
00:53:19.440 --> 00:53:22.400
to tell me whether or not God would provide for me.

944
00:53:22.400 --> 00:53:25.360
And when it manifested the way it did yesterday,

945
00:53:25.360 --> 00:53:26.840
that did not make me feel comfortable.

946
00:53:26.840 --> 00:53:28.600
It did not make me feel safe.

947
00:53:28.600 --> 00:53:30.360
So, God is always good.

948
00:53:30.360 --> 00:53:31.800
So, therefore, I need to stop looking

949
00:53:31.800 --> 00:53:34.480
at the wind and the waves, and I need to choose.

950
00:53:35.400 --> 00:53:38.240
God, I choose that you love me,

951
00:53:38.240 --> 00:53:40.920
that you comfort me, and that you treasure me.

952
00:53:40.920 --> 00:53:43.200
So, anyway, I shifted like that.

953
00:53:43.200 --> 00:53:44.800
Like you were talking about, Keri,

954
00:53:44.800 --> 00:53:46.840
all of a sudden, you move into this place of rest,

955
00:53:46.840 --> 00:53:49.360
and you're like, I thought I was living a nightmare,

956
00:53:49.360 --> 00:53:52.560
and I'm finding myself at complete rest

957
00:53:52.560 --> 00:53:53.840
in the middle of my nightmare.

958
00:53:53.840 --> 00:53:55.720
So, for what it's worth, hopefully,

959
00:53:55.720 --> 00:53:58.320
that's encouraging to y'all.

960
00:53:59.240 --> 00:54:02.520
So, Elizabeth, did you say that you had a question?

961
00:54:03.880 --> 00:54:06.760
Yeah, but I don't wanna keep us, either,

962
00:54:06.760 --> 00:54:08.080
if you need to wrap it up.

963
00:54:08.080 --> 00:54:08.920
No, we're fine.

964
00:54:08.920 --> 00:54:11.200
We're not on a strict time limit.

965
00:54:11.200 --> 00:54:14.080
Whenever people need to get, if we go over,

966
00:54:14.080 --> 00:54:15.920
people just leave whenever they need to leave.

967
00:54:15.920 --> 00:54:17.760
So, you just go ahead.

968
00:54:17.760 --> 00:54:19.320
That's how I run my Zooms, too.

969
00:54:19.320 --> 00:54:20.840
That works well.

970
00:54:20.840 --> 00:54:24.200
Okay, so, I guess I'm curious,

971
00:54:24.200 --> 00:54:25.920
because all you ladies are here live,

972
00:54:25.920 --> 00:54:28.200
and have, I think most of you have been

973
00:54:28.200 --> 00:54:33.200
through the initial intensive part of the rest,

974
00:54:34.120 --> 00:54:35.000
the four weeks.

975
00:54:35.000 --> 00:54:38.240
I'm guessing most of you have been through the four weeks.

976
00:54:38.240 --> 00:54:40.280
And I'm brand new to the four weeks,

977
00:54:40.320 --> 00:54:45.320
and I'm in the, how do we shift here,

978
00:54:46.200 --> 00:54:49.000
phase of what does it even mean to shift into rest,

979
00:54:49.000 --> 00:54:52.160
but knowing that that's the call,

980
00:54:52.160 --> 00:54:54.320
knowing that that's exactly where God has me,

981
00:54:54.320 --> 00:54:58.400
and what he's doing on every level,

982
00:54:58.400 --> 00:55:00.560
not just because I'm here.

983
00:55:00.000 --> 00:55:04.560
as of this community and this intensive, but including it,

984
00:55:04.560 --> 00:55:08.480
but also literally on every level and every relationship,

985
00:55:08.480 --> 00:55:11.520
it's being confirmed over and over

986
00:55:11.520 --> 00:55:12.760
that this is where he has me.

987
00:55:12.760 --> 00:55:15.000
So it's like a now moment, right?

988
00:55:15.000 --> 00:55:16.840
It's a, you know, when you get a now word

989
00:55:16.840 --> 00:55:18.480
where you're like, this is for right now,

990
00:55:18.480 --> 00:55:19.320
it's one of those.

991
00:55:19.320 --> 00:55:23.200
And so I feel like,

992
00:55:26.160 --> 00:55:27.520
now I'm trying to think of good analogies

993
00:55:27.520 --> 00:55:28.680
because Ashley's is so great.

994
00:55:28.680 --> 00:55:29.520
You're like, you keep coming up

995
00:55:29.520 --> 00:55:30.680
with these amazing analogies,

996
00:55:30.680 --> 00:55:35.680
but like say my daughter's in the store

997
00:55:36.400 --> 00:55:38.400
and I sent her in alone

998
00:55:38.400 --> 00:55:40.800
and she knows that she's looking for

999
00:55:40.800 --> 00:55:43.280
like the little ice cream shop within the store, right?

1000
00:55:43.280 --> 00:55:44.360
Cause big stores a lot of times

1001
00:55:44.360 --> 00:55:45.560
have little separate places.

1002
00:55:45.560 --> 00:55:48.560
And so she knows she's like looking for the ice cream shop,

1003
00:55:48.560 --> 00:55:51.560
but like she has no,

1004
00:55:52.440 --> 00:55:55.000
like she has never had ice cream before.

1005
00:55:56.320 --> 00:55:57.160
Okay, I'm trying here.

1006
00:55:57.160 --> 00:55:58.000
Just bear with me.

1007
00:55:58.040 --> 00:55:59.240
Like she's never had ice cream before

1008
00:55:59.240 --> 00:56:01.120
and she is excited about it.

1009
00:56:01.120 --> 00:56:02.600
And she knows that that's what she's there for.

1010
00:56:02.600 --> 00:56:04.440
But she like goes up to the ice cream shop

1011
00:56:04.440 --> 00:56:05.440
and she's just like,

1012
00:56:06.880 --> 00:56:08.120
I have no idea where to start.

1013
00:56:08.120 --> 00:56:10.800
Like, what do I, how do I choose here?

1014
00:56:10.800 --> 00:56:13.840
Like, how do I even know what I like?

1015
00:56:13.840 --> 00:56:16.760
Like, what does it look like for me to be satisfied

1016
00:56:16.760 --> 00:56:19.240
by this amazing thing I've heard about?

1017
00:56:19.240 --> 00:56:20.080
That's so amazing.

1018
00:56:20.080 --> 00:56:22.680
Okay, so say that's the analogy.

1019
00:56:22.680 --> 00:56:25.600
It's like, that's how I feel a bit with rest

1020
00:56:25.600 --> 00:56:27.520
because it's so foreign.

1021
00:56:28.520 --> 00:56:30.160
And it's been such a long time coming

1022
00:56:30.160 --> 00:56:32.000
that everyone talks about it.

1023
00:56:32.000 --> 00:56:33.720
Like, I feel like I see all these believers

1024
00:56:33.720 --> 00:56:34.800
that are operating from this place

1025
00:56:34.800 --> 00:56:36.480
and a lot that aren't as well,

1026
00:56:36.480 --> 00:56:38.360
but it has felt so elusive.

1027
00:56:38.360 --> 00:56:40.720
And so like for everyone else but me,

1028
00:56:40.720 --> 00:56:42.680
and why can I not grab hold of this?

1029
00:56:42.680 --> 00:56:44.760
And so there's been so much striving.

1030
00:56:44.760 --> 00:56:46.920
So I guess my question is,

1031
00:56:46.920 --> 00:56:51.400
what does it look like in the beginning stages of shifting,

1032
00:56:51.400 --> 00:56:53.880
even in the practical, like I'm asking the Lord,

1033
00:56:53.880 --> 00:56:55.440
do you want me to fast from this?

1034
00:56:55.440 --> 00:56:57.680
Like I'm already fasting sugar

1035
00:56:58.440 --> 00:56:59.640
but just to be honest with you guys,

1036
00:56:59.640 --> 00:57:01.640
because I have no reason to brag about fasting.

1037
00:57:01.640 --> 00:57:05.160
It's not something that, I've never done like a sugar fast.

1038
00:57:05.160 --> 00:57:07.960
I've never even fasted for more than three days.

1039
00:57:09.360 --> 00:57:12.600
And I don't know why I'm doing it

1040
00:57:12.600 --> 00:57:16.200
except that it's part of this season of praying and fasting.

1041
00:57:16.200 --> 00:57:19.360
And so other than that,

1042
00:57:19.360 --> 00:57:21.680
it's like, do I wanna be on social media?

1043
00:57:21.680 --> 00:57:23.360
Is there some kind of balance Lord

1044
00:57:23.360 --> 00:57:25.600
about how much I'm on social media?

1045
00:57:25.640 --> 00:57:28.280
Like I have no idea how long the season is

1046
00:57:28.280 --> 00:57:32.160
where he's calling me to pause from so much,

1047
00:57:32.160 --> 00:57:35.560
like where I basically my whole life is on pause

1048
00:57:35.560 --> 00:57:37.520
with the Lord right now for what he's doing

1049
00:57:37.520 --> 00:57:39.440
except for my part-time job

1050
00:57:39.440 --> 00:57:41.360
and everything else with my business,

1051
00:57:41.360 --> 00:57:45.800
with my children, with my, how I spend my time,

1052
00:57:45.800 --> 00:57:48.040
with my relationships, with what I'm involved in,

1053
00:57:48.040 --> 00:57:53.040
that's all up for consideration with the Lord of like,

1054
00:57:53.600 --> 00:57:57.800
what does this look like to shift from exhaustion?

1055
00:57:57.800 --> 00:57:58.640
I'm exhausted.

1056
00:57:58.640 --> 00:58:01.960
I'm completely exhausted into rest.

1057
00:58:01.960 --> 00:58:04.560
And I mean, being physically, emotionally,

1058
00:58:04.560 --> 00:58:06.360
in every way tired,

1059
00:58:06.360 --> 00:58:11.360
but also not wanting to disconnect from everyone,

1060
00:58:12.400 --> 00:58:14.120
in the wrong places,

1061
00:58:14.120 --> 00:58:15.440
because I do still need community

1062
00:58:15.440 --> 00:58:17.680
and relationships through this,

1063
00:58:17.680 --> 00:58:18.880
but I don't wanna be so busy

1064
00:58:18.880 --> 00:58:21.040
that I miss the chance to shift to rest.

1065
00:58:22.000 --> 00:58:23.320
Yeah.

1066
00:58:23.320 --> 00:58:24.800
Yeah, no, it's a good question.

1067
00:58:24.800 --> 00:58:28.480
So the thing is that rest is strictly,

1068
00:58:28.480 --> 00:58:30.720
rest is not inactivity.

1069
00:58:30.720 --> 00:58:33.440
Rest is a place.

1070
00:58:33.440 --> 00:58:34.960
It is a place in the spirit.

1071
00:58:34.960 --> 00:58:37.600
It's a place in God, abiding in God.

1072
00:58:37.600 --> 00:58:40.760
And from that place, we do everything.

1073
00:58:41.600 --> 00:58:44.680
From that place of rest, we have relationships

1074
00:58:44.680 --> 00:58:46.520
and we interact in those relationships.

1075
00:58:46.520 --> 00:58:49.720
From that place of rest, we work.

1076
00:58:50.160 --> 00:58:51.440
We go to a job.

1077
00:58:53.080 --> 00:58:56.680
We make decisions about what to do with our children.

1078
00:58:56.680 --> 00:58:58.360
We spend time with our children.

1079
00:58:58.360 --> 00:59:00.320
We, I don't know, we buy things.

1080
00:59:00.320 --> 00:59:02.240
We decide whether or not to buy a house,

1081
00:59:02.240 --> 00:59:03.400
all kinds of things.

1082
00:59:03.400 --> 00:59:04.840
Everything is from that place.

1083
00:59:04.840 --> 00:59:08.120
So it's not inactivity.

1084
00:59:08.120 --> 00:59:11.640
It is, we're used to doing everything

1085
00:59:11.640 --> 00:59:14.920
with a lot of work, a lot of angst, a lot of effort.

1086
00:59:14.920 --> 00:59:19.360
And so now we're learning how to do the same things

1087
00:59:19.360 --> 00:59:20.640
only in a place of rest,

1088
00:59:20.640 --> 00:59:23.440
understanding that God will provide the result.

1089
00:59:23.440 --> 00:59:25.480
I no longer have to work for it.

1090
00:59:25.480 --> 00:59:29.080
I no longer have to create a result in a relationship.

1091
00:59:29.080 --> 00:59:32.240
I no longer have to create a profit in a business.

1092
00:59:32.240 --> 00:59:34.360
I know, you know, the burden, the weight,

1093
00:59:34.360 --> 00:59:37.440
and the responsibility is not on me.

1094
00:59:40.120 --> 00:59:43.200
And sorry, let me look something up.

1095
00:59:43.200 --> 00:59:45.000
It's not on me anymore.

1096
00:59:45.440 --> 00:59:50.440
And so it's, so have you watched the session

1097
00:59:51.960 --> 00:59:53.960
on the two trees yet?

1098
01:00:00.000 --> 01:00:06.880
Yeah, you're on mute. There you go. Okay, sorry I'm trying to plug in because my

1099
01:00:06.880 --> 01:00:12.440
phone's getting to the dead zone this late at night. Can you hear me? Yeah, yeah.

1100
01:00:12.440 --> 01:00:18.800
Okay, I can't hear you as well. Oh, okay, have you watched the Two Trees yet

1101
01:00:18.800 --> 01:00:23.380
session? Two Trees, that's the one I've got to watch because that that was the

1102
01:00:23.380 --> 01:00:29.760
big revelation this first week was that and it's funny because I mean yes we

1103
01:00:29.760 --> 01:00:35.920
talked about it briefly but it was not because we talked about it it was like

1104
01:00:35.920 --> 01:00:42.840
the revelation came simultaneously like like we were talking about it but not

1105
01:00:42.840 --> 01:00:48.160
really just mentioning it and God was showing me that my pattern is trying to

1106
01:00:48.160 --> 01:00:52.640
figure out so much anxiety over trying to figure out what's happened in the

1107
01:00:52.640 --> 01:00:55.920
past and what's going on and what's good and what's bad and if I'm good and bad

1108
01:00:55.960 --> 01:01:00.680
and it's like the same thing as the tree of the knowledge of good and evil like I

1109
01:01:00.680 --> 01:01:05.360
saw that that was the exact pattern and cycle that had me completely wrecked in

1110
01:01:05.360 --> 01:01:12.360
anxiety. Yes, yeah, so that that will be a really good one. I reckon I always

1111
01:01:12.360 --> 01:01:15.760
recommend that people watch them in the order that I put them in just because

1112
01:01:15.760 --> 01:01:20.280
I've noticed from historically listening to people that is the order that made

1113
01:01:20.280 --> 01:01:26.800
the most sense and helped them grab a hold in and and actually shift into

1114
01:01:26.800 --> 01:01:32.640
into rest faster but but yes when you get to those two trees that's that's

1115
01:01:32.640 --> 01:01:38.040
helpful because it shows that we do the same things but we need to understand

1116
01:01:38.040 --> 01:01:41.840
that we do them from the tree of life meaning out of relationship with God

1117
01:01:41.840 --> 01:01:47.200
which is the place of rest as opposed to doing it believing we're on our own

1118
01:01:47.200 --> 01:01:52.040
we're abandoned by God we got to figure it all out ourselves according to this

1119
01:01:52.040 --> 01:01:57.640
arbitrary list of what is good and what is evil and then in there I talk about

1120
01:01:57.640 --> 01:02:02.520
the fact that Eve didn't choose the tree because she was interested in doing in

1121
01:02:02.520 --> 01:02:07.160
rebelling against the Lord that she was interested in in doing something evil

1122
01:02:07.160 --> 01:02:12.680
no she was interested in doing something good she was she wanted to do good for

1123
01:02:12.680 --> 01:02:17.200
the Lord and she wanted you to be right and shoot because the what Satan tempted

1124
01:02:17.200 --> 01:02:21.240
her with was not doing evil Satan tempted her with wouldn't you like to be

1125
01:02:21.240 --> 01:02:27.120
as wise as God wise is a good thing wisdom is a good thing people who want to

1126
01:02:27.120 --> 01:02:31.360
do evil things have no interest whatsoever in wisdom so she wanted

1127
01:02:31.360 --> 01:02:37.200
something something good but she wanted to choose it on her own she wanted to

1128
01:02:37.200 --> 01:02:41.040
she felt that she had to operate apart from God because she thought God was

1129
01:02:41.040 --> 01:02:45.120
holding out on her therefore that she wasn't protected or provided for in some

1130
01:02:45.120 --> 01:02:49.000
way and oh my goodness I need to make sure that I keep up I need to make sure

1131
01:02:49.000 --> 01:02:53.840
that I do the right thing so I and I'm alone and abandoned to do it and to

1132
01:02:53.840 --> 01:02:58.520
figure it out on my own and then she made a choice we've lived our whole life

1133
01:02:58.520 --> 01:03:02.680
like that we've created our relationships off of that we have

1134
01:03:02.680 --> 01:03:06.880
struggled to develop our businesses or our ideas for our ministry or whatever

1135
01:03:06.880 --> 01:03:11.760
based off of the fact that we thought we were by ourselves and so it's

1136
01:03:11.760 --> 01:03:15.560
shifting from believing that we're by ourselves and that the responsibility of

1137
01:03:15.560 --> 01:03:22.080
the result relies completely on us shifting into no trusting that giving up

1138
01:03:22.080 --> 01:03:26.800
control of the result and control of how we get there and just putting it

1139
01:03:26.800 --> 01:03:30.480
completely in the hands of the Lord so we no longer bear the responsibility and

1140
01:03:30.480 --> 01:03:35.480
now all we all we have to do is just focus on having the relationship with

1141
01:03:35.480 --> 01:03:39.840
the Lord in which we can enjoy doing the activities with him we can enjoy the

1142
01:03:39.840 --> 01:03:45.040
dance with him the undulation but we no longer have to carry the burden of it

1143
01:03:45.040 --> 01:03:48.640
because Christ says you know get lay your yoke upon it lay your burden upon

1144
01:03:48.640 --> 01:03:53.160
me because for you know and they and then he talks in another verse about the

1145
01:03:53.160 --> 01:03:57.760
fact of in another passage about the fact that you know my yoke is easy and

1146
01:03:57.760 --> 01:04:02.840
my burden is light because he's the one he says I want to provide the result you

1147
01:04:02.840 --> 01:04:06.480
no longer have to so that's the difference between how it is that we've

1148
01:04:06.480 --> 01:04:13.120
been living life which we associate busyness and activity with not rest and

1149
01:04:13.120 --> 01:04:18.880
it's not true the reason that we've done that is we don't know how to do and not

1150
01:04:18.880 --> 01:04:25.240
be and not and not be working like working like strife anxiety God wants to

1151
01:04:25.240 --> 01:04:31.080
show us how to do without working for it without putting forth all of this

1152
01:04:31.080 --> 01:04:37.040
effort and this energy and and what I so Carrie mentioned she said yes there's

1153
01:04:37.040 --> 01:04:40.320
been days when I'm busier and more productive than I've ever been in my

1154
01:04:40.320 --> 01:04:44.520
life but my soul is at rest and I'm not stressed it's just it just flows and the

1155
01:04:44.520 --> 01:04:50.480
steps at the same thing and and I remember when a way as both of them as

1156
01:04:50.480 --> 01:04:54.040
they were walking on this journey and how they shifted into rest and it's one

1157
01:04:54.040 --> 01:04:58.600
of those things where kind of like salvation if you tell somebody out about

1158
01:04:58.600 --> 01:05:01.960
salvation how wonderful

1159
01:05:00.000 --> 01:05:01.880
What is to someone on the outside?

1160
01:05:01.880 --> 01:05:04.760
They're like, I don't understand until you experience it.

1161
01:05:04.760 --> 01:05:08.680
And you're thinking, Oh my word, how do I describe this to someone else?

1162
01:05:09.000 --> 01:05:10.320
It's the same thing with rest.

1163
01:05:10.520 --> 01:05:12.640
Once you shift into it, you're going, Oh my word.

1164
01:05:13.160 --> 01:05:14.400
This is amazing.

1165
01:05:14.600 --> 01:05:16.040
I didn't know I could feel like this.

1166
01:05:16.200 --> 01:05:17.800
How do I explain it to someone else?

1167
01:05:17.960 --> 01:05:22.560
If you go back and watch the test, these ladies testimonials in, um, if you go

1168
01:05:22.560 --> 01:05:25.320
back through my Facebook page and you look through their testimonials that

1169
01:05:25.320 --> 01:05:28.920
they, that they posted, they all have the same problem that I did.

1170
01:05:29.320 --> 01:05:33.240
And that is trying to explain what happened to their life.

1171
01:05:33.880 --> 01:05:38.160
Or if, uh, if you've watched the chosen in, in Mary, Mary Magdalene

1172
01:05:38.160 --> 01:05:41.160
mentions, you know, when she's talking to Nicodemus, she, he says, well,

1173
01:05:41.160 --> 01:05:42.120
what on earth happened to you?

1174
01:05:42.120 --> 01:05:44.360
Last time I saw you, you were possessed with demons.

1175
01:05:44.760 --> 01:05:47.080
And she said, I don't know what happened.

1176
01:05:47.280 --> 01:05:52.000
She said, all I know is that I used to be different, but, um, or I used to

1177
01:05:52.000 --> 01:05:53.680
be one way, but now I'm different.

1178
01:05:53.920 --> 01:05:56.120
And the thing that happened in between was him.

1179
01:05:56.680 --> 01:06:00.320
That is the best that all of us have come up with and how to describe what

1180
01:06:00.320 --> 01:06:04.520
it's like to operate out of rest to op because it's an, it's, it's a, it's a

1181
01:06:04.520 --> 01:06:09.160
place, it's an abiding in him in which we've discovered in which we now

1182
01:06:09.160 --> 01:06:11.200
realize that we're positioned in him.

1183
01:06:11.400 --> 01:06:15.720
We have a particular identity and therefore there's nothing left to do.

1184
01:06:15.880 --> 01:06:17.160
He's done everything.

1185
01:06:17.200 --> 01:06:18.720
We're already in a position.

1186
01:06:18.720 --> 01:06:20.800
We're not attaining to anything anymore.

1187
01:06:20.800 --> 01:06:23.040
We're no longer responsible for our results.

1188
01:06:23.440 --> 01:06:24.720
We just focus on him.

1189
01:06:24.920 --> 01:06:29.200
The hard part is we have to give up control and we have to trust that he has

1190
01:06:29.200 --> 01:06:33.800
our back, that he's going to protect and provide for us and we no longer have to.

1191
01:06:34.040 --> 01:06:35.840
That's the choice that we're making.

1192
01:06:36.760 --> 01:06:42.000
And Steph says, I remember thinking, oh, oh, I've missed some memo.

1193
01:06:42.040 --> 01:06:42.360
Okay.

1194
01:06:42.360 --> 01:06:46.920
So yes, so Steph, Steph will be the first one to tell you because she, uh, that she

1195
01:06:46.920 --> 01:06:51.200
was, and some of the other ladies, you know, we're, we're, we're, we're getting

1196
01:06:51.200 --> 01:06:53.840
it and the, and then she was like, I don't understand, you know, I feel like

1197
01:06:53.880 --> 01:06:54.840
I'm, I'm missing this.

1198
01:06:54.840 --> 01:06:55.520
That's what she's saying.

1199
01:06:55.520 --> 01:06:56.840
She's like, I felt like I missed something.

1200
01:06:57.200 --> 01:07:00.000
But then all of a sudden she and I had a conversation and I'm telling

1201
01:07:00.000 --> 01:07:02.480
you what she switched like that.

1202
01:07:02.880 --> 01:07:07.560
I mean, it was like literally in, in, I don't know, Steph, you'll have to remind

1203
01:07:07.560 --> 01:07:11.440
me, it was something like basically in a moment, she went from our conversation,

1204
01:07:11.440 --> 01:07:15.680
got off the, got off the phone and totally changed from that point forward.

1205
01:07:16.000 --> 01:07:20.200
She says her husband has commented on how much more I enjoy what I'm doing.

1206
01:07:20.200 --> 01:07:23.160
It's so good to be at rest, niche down and focus on what gives me

1207
01:07:23.160 --> 01:07:25.400
peace as I follow is leading in my business.

1208
01:07:25.760 --> 01:07:27.040
So, um, yeah.

1209
01:07:27.040 --> 01:07:31.320
So anyway, it's one of those things that you'll, that I explain in the sessions,

1210
01:07:31.560 --> 01:07:36.360
how to actually shift into rest, like what you can actually do.

1211
01:07:36.400 --> 01:07:39.440
And then if you have any questions, just feel free to call me and I can

1212
01:07:39.440 --> 01:07:43.160
actually walk you through how to, how to actually do it because that's

1213
01:07:43.160 --> 01:07:45.560
my, my point of this rest intensive.

1214
01:07:45.560 --> 01:07:51.760
It is to help people actually live this, not learn about it, not gain more

1215
01:07:51.760 --> 01:07:56.600
information, but actually enable them to do it, provide the supportive

1216
01:07:56.600 --> 01:07:59.600
environment that they can live it and make it real.

1217
01:08:00.040 --> 01:08:05.440
Um, and, uh, anyway, so you know, you can do that, but once you do that,

1218
01:08:05.480 --> 01:08:09.240
which I can help kind of help you understand kind of how to walk through.

1219
01:08:09.280 --> 01:08:14.400
Um, then, um, uh, then you'll, you, it's something that you experience

1220
01:08:14.400 --> 01:08:18.279
between the Lord and you, because when you're in the place of rest, you've

1221
01:08:18.279 --> 01:08:20.399
now positioned yourself in him.

1222
01:08:20.640 --> 01:08:22.319
You've positioned for yourself in him.

1223
01:08:22.319 --> 01:08:25.880
You thought, and all of a sudden you have this, this understanding that

1224
01:08:25.880 --> 01:08:28.520
comes over you and you realize, oh my word, this is rest.

1225
01:08:28.560 --> 01:08:32.520
Why did I not know that this thing existed, but to try to

1226
01:08:32.520 --> 01:08:34.279
describe it to someone else is.

1227
01:08:35.279 --> 01:08:36.200
It's hard.

1228
01:08:36.200 --> 01:08:39.520
It's like trying to describe love to somebody else until someone's been in

1229
01:08:39.520 --> 01:08:42.640
love and they're like, oh my word, this is what it feels like, but to try to

1230
01:08:42.640 --> 01:08:44.800
describe it is very challenging.

1231
01:08:46.240 --> 01:08:46.520
Wow.

1232
01:08:47.600 --> 01:08:48.279
Sounds amazing.

1233
01:08:48.279 --> 01:08:48.880
Thank you.

1234
01:08:49.120 --> 01:08:50.359
Yeah, you're welcome.

1235
01:08:50.720 --> 01:08:53.120
But yeah, there are some practical things that you can do.

1236
01:08:53.120 --> 01:08:58.520
So it's not like this magical, like theoretical thing that, oh my word.

1237
01:08:58.520 --> 01:09:02.640
I I've I'm blindly having to stumble around and hoping I'm

1238
01:09:02.640 --> 01:09:04.000
going to land in it somewhere.

1239
01:09:04.200 --> 01:09:06.840
No, there's a way that I give people.

1240
01:09:06.880 --> 01:09:13.680
Um, and I, uh, that I help people kind of grasp solid things that, that kind

1241
01:09:13.680 --> 01:09:17.840
of allow people to sink their teeth into something, to actually move towards it.

1242
01:09:17.840 --> 01:09:19.640
But then the, then they land in it.

1243
01:09:20.200 --> 01:09:23.200
And then when they land it, it's like, oh, this is what it's like.

1244
01:09:23.359 --> 01:09:27.399
And then I'm going to be fascinated to discover if you think of a way to be able

1245
01:09:27.399 --> 01:09:29.040
to describe it, once you land in it.

1246
01:09:29.439 --> 01:09:30.840
Oh, everybody.

1247
01:09:30.840 --> 01:09:31.560
It's so easy.

1248
01:09:31.600 --> 01:09:35.800
This is how you describe it because the rest of us have been able to do it.

1249
01:09:36.200 --> 01:09:37.279
It feels so good.

1250
01:09:37.279 --> 01:09:40.760
You're just kind of like, how do you, how do you put this into words?

1251
01:09:41.600 --> 01:09:43.880
So how do you put a life transformed?

1252
01:09:43.920 --> 01:09:45.720
How do you describe a life transformed?

1253
01:09:46.080 --> 01:09:46.520
It's such a.

1254
01:09:46.520 --> 01:09:46.920
Amen.

1255
01:09:47.800 --> 01:09:52.040
Is there anywhere that you tell your story, Ashley, of how you even got here?

1256
01:09:52.040 --> 01:09:55.480
Like how you shifted into rest and how, why you created this?

1257
01:09:55.760 --> 01:09:56.800
Is there anywhere that you share that?

1258
01:09:57.000 --> 01:09:59.640
The closest that I can think of.

1259
01:09:59.680 --> 01:09:59.880
Um,

1260
01:10:00.000 --> 01:10:02.440
I probably should do a testimonial video.

1261
01:10:02.440 --> 01:10:04.400
I have some, okay, so if you go back

1262
01:10:04.400 --> 01:10:06.240
and you look at some of the interviews

1263
01:10:06.240 --> 01:10:08.560
that people have done with me,

1264
01:10:08.560 --> 01:10:11.440
I describe some of it there in videos,

1265
01:10:11.440 --> 01:10:16.440
but otherwise you can go to a post that I made

1266
01:10:19.200 --> 01:10:24.040
in which, I don't know, it's just a picture of me.

1267
01:10:24.040 --> 01:10:27.400
You have to scroll pretty far down, maybe around in March.

1268
01:10:27.400 --> 01:10:30.680
I posted it somewhere in March and it's a long post

1269
01:10:30.680 --> 01:10:34.200
and there I give a brief testimony of how I did,

1270
01:10:34.200 --> 01:10:36.280
but it's related specifically to business.

1271
01:10:36.280 --> 01:10:39.400
It doesn't go as far back as the fact that

1272
01:10:39.400 --> 01:10:41.840
the reason that I evident that that worked out

1273
01:10:41.840 --> 01:10:44.040
and that I struggled in rest and business

1274
01:10:44.040 --> 01:10:47.320
is because maybe shifting into rest and business

1275
01:10:47.320 --> 01:10:50.720
is because it was a deep issue

1276
01:10:50.720 --> 01:10:52.600
that I had dealt with my whole life.

1277
01:10:52.600 --> 01:10:54.240
So that I didn't go into.

1278
01:10:54.240 --> 01:10:56.120
I just talk about it from the start

1279
01:10:56.360 --> 01:10:59.800
like right out of business, right out of the gate.

1280
01:11:00.880 --> 01:11:02.560
But that's close.

1281
01:11:02.560 --> 01:11:04.440
But I've had multiple people ask me for it

1282
01:11:04.440 --> 01:11:07.920
and so I should probably come up with a better video.

1283
01:11:07.920 --> 01:11:09.080
I'd love to hear your story,

1284
01:11:09.080 --> 01:11:11.360
like the parts that are the missing,

1285
01:11:11.360 --> 01:11:12.560
like the more intimate.

1286
01:11:14.680 --> 01:11:18.440
What you just described is maybe not in the rest

1287
01:11:18.440 --> 01:11:21.880
of your testimonials sometimes.

1288
01:11:21.880 --> 01:11:24.040
Probably not, probably not.

1289
01:11:24.680 --> 01:11:27.160
Yeah, maybe I should do one and post it in the group.

1290
01:11:27.160 --> 01:11:28.200
Haven't thought about that.

1291
01:11:28.200 --> 01:11:31.360
So I guess I just thought that it wouldn't be

1292
01:11:32.360 --> 01:11:34.480
very interesting to people

1293
01:11:34.480 --> 01:11:36.400
because it wasn't personal to them.

1294
01:11:37.360 --> 01:11:39.680
But I think that I'm not crediting the power

1295
01:11:39.680 --> 01:11:41.840
of somebody else's testimony.

1296
01:11:41.840 --> 01:11:44.840
But I do try to use examples from my own life

1297
01:11:44.840 --> 01:11:46.720
in order to help people understand

1298
01:11:46.720 --> 01:11:48.600
like I did at the beginning of this call.

1299
01:11:48.600 --> 01:11:51.840
Or no, just actually I think right before your message,

1300
01:11:51.840 --> 01:11:53.440
message or question.

1301
01:11:53.520 --> 01:11:54.840
Give people an understanding of,

1302
01:11:54.840 --> 01:11:57.520
hey, look, I'm still walking through this.

1303
01:11:57.520 --> 01:11:58.680
I haven't arrived.

1304
01:11:59.920 --> 01:12:03.800
And he continues to move me in greater and greater measures.

1305
01:12:03.800 --> 01:12:06.600
But I do that to help people understand

1306
01:12:06.600 --> 01:12:11.600
that this is, to see their situation

1307
01:12:11.640 --> 01:12:16.320
in light of a larger context.

1308
01:12:16.320 --> 01:12:19.600
They can hear other people's stories in this community.

1309
01:12:19.600 --> 01:12:22.880
They can hear me talk about things periodically.

1310
01:12:23.320 --> 01:12:24.600
And so they have some kind of place

1311
01:12:24.600 --> 01:12:27.840
to understand the uniqueness of their situation,

1312
01:12:27.840 --> 01:12:29.240
which is a good and beautiful thing

1313
01:12:29.240 --> 01:12:30.960
in their relationship with the Lord.

1314
01:12:30.960 --> 01:12:34.040
But to also see how that is related to,

1315
01:12:34.040 --> 01:12:37.080
and it's kind of like the similarities and differences

1316
01:12:37.080 --> 01:12:40.440
between what their personal unique experience looks like

1317
01:12:40.440 --> 01:12:44.880
compared to mine or somebody else's in the group.

1318
01:12:44.880 --> 01:12:47.800
But I didn't want to focus on my own personal experience

1319
01:12:47.800 --> 01:12:50.160
too much because that doesn't mean,

1320
01:12:50.160 --> 01:12:53.000
it's an example and it's an idea for someone,

1321
01:12:53.000 --> 01:12:56.120
but it doesn't help somebody else shift into rest.

1322
01:12:56.120 --> 01:12:58.680
It lets somebody know that they can,

1323
01:12:58.680 --> 01:13:00.080
if they choose to believe that,

1324
01:13:00.080 --> 01:13:02.920
hey, if Ashley can do it, I could do it.

1325
01:13:02.920 --> 01:13:06.040
But otherwise I just kind of figured that well at them.

1326
01:13:07.680 --> 01:13:11.440
It's just personal to Ashley and that's not my experience.

1327
01:13:11.440 --> 01:13:13.760
I would challenge that because like you said,

1328
01:13:13.760 --> 01:13:16.400
I would challenge that because I think it's actually

1329
01:13:16.400 --> 01:13:17.960
has a lot of power to transform,

1330
01:13:17.960 --> 01:13:20.800
to hear someone else's journey,

1331
01:13:20.800 --> 01:13:23.840
especially when it's so different and so rare

1332
01:13:26.080 --> 01:13:30.760
to operate from this place that you have a story

1333
01:13:30.760 --> 01:13:35.200
of doing that and then feeling led to help others do that.

1334
01:13:35.200 --> 01:13:38.160
Like all of those details of how you went

1335
01:13:38.160 --> 01:13:40.880
from where you were to now would be,

1336
01:13:40.880 --> 01:13:43.440
I feel like really impactful.

1337
01:13:43.440 --> 01:13:47.280
So no pressure, no special time that you have to do it,

1338
01:13:47.280 --> 01:13:48.640
but I just want you to know it would mean,

1339
01:13:48.640 --> 01:13:51.040
it would actually mean a lot more than you might realize

1340
01:13:51.040 --> 01:13:53.280
to those of us who've been living,

1341
01:13:53.280 --> 01:13:57.160
for me, 35 years from a place of anxiety and striving

1342
01:13:57.160 --> 01:13:58.440
and not feeling worthy.

1343
01:13:58.440 --> 01:14:02.440
Like it's a big deal to hear stories like yours, so.

1344
01:14:02.440 --> 01:14:03.600
Oh, good.

1345
01:14:03.600 --> 01:14:05.000
Okay, well, that's encouraging.

1346
01:14:05.000 --> 01:14:06.200
I appreciate it.

1347
01:14:06.200 --> 01:14:08.040
Yeah, I'm sorry I had to move around there.

1348
01:14:08.040 --> 01:14:10.280
My computer was dying, so I had to,

1349
01:14:12.080 --> 01:14:14.520
she's drinking very loudly.

1350
01:14:15.280 --> 01:14:19.400
So I had to plug in my computer before it died,

1351
01:14:19.400 --> 01:14:20.480
but thanks for letting me know,

1352
01:14:20.480 --> 01:14:22.560
which is so funny because I was just talking

1353
01:14:22.560 --> 01:14:24.800
to a friend of mine about that the other day,

1354
01:14:24.800 --> 01:14:26.960
whose testimony has really helped me.

1355
01:14:26.960 --> 01:14:31.960
And I remember their story sometime that they'll tell me,

1356
01:14:32.200 --> 01:14:33.560
that they've told me before.

1357
01:14:33.560 --> 01:14:35.600
And I was in a similar situation

1358
01:14:35.600 --> 01:14:37.000
and I was telling them the other day,

1359
01:14:37.000 --> 01:14:39.520
I'm like, oh my word, your story was so helpful

1360
01:14:39.520 --> 01:14:41.840
because I was in a similar situation.

1361
01:14:41.840 --> 01:14:44.120
And what helped me know how to handle that situation

1362
01:14:44.120 --> 01:14:46.280
is I remembered your story.

1363
01:14:47.160 --> 01:14:50.600
And so I, it's so funny that I didn't,

1364
01:14:50.600 --> 01:14:53.520
that I didn't see the similarity for myself.

1365
01:14:53.520 --> 01:14:55.480
I just noticed that I appreciated someone else's,

1366
01:14:55.480 --> 01:14:58.400
but I guess I figured that people wouldn't be,

1367
01:14:58.400 --> 01:15:00.240
my story wouldn't be.

1368
01:15:00.000 --> 01:15:01.800
Helpful to others, which I think is really funny.

1369
01:15:02.960 --> 01:15:07.280
But I thought that that thanks for letting for letting me know that would be helpful.

1370
01:15:09.320 --> 01:15:09.800
So,

1371
01:15:11.760 --> 01:15:15.960
Just encourage you that you can start looking at and let's just say if I miss this thing.

1372
01:15:18.240 --> 01:15:28.840
You don't even know my favorite color. Oh my word. What is my favorite color. I don't think I have a favorite color. I like too many different colors. I'm very particular about shades of color.

1373
01:15:30.600 --> 01:15:30.600


1374
01:15:33.200 --> 01:15:42.560
So funny. Yeah. Oh, I'm so glad I know I love all of y'all. Y'all are fun just encourages you that you can but have to make the journey. Yes.

1375
01:15:43.600 --> 01:15:44.080
Yeah.

1376
01:15:45.040 --> 01:15:57.520
Look, good. Is there anything that someone anyone else has before we jump off. Sorry, my little dog. No. Have y'all seen my little dog at some of you have that this is my little dog.

1377
01:16:00.480 --> 01:16:04.720
She doesn't like to look at the camera. He's weak girl. She

1378
01:16:07.600 --> 01:16:08.800
Yeah, it does.

1379
01:16:09.360 --> 01:16:09.840
She

1380
01:16:11.720 --> 01:16:12.280
School.

1381
01:16:13.600 --> 01:16:18.920
She was there for two weeks. I guess she's she's been back for a couple of weeks. Yeah. You see, Amy.

1382
01:16:19.120 --> 01:16:31.560
And and that was a really neat and neat experience that I'll be able to tell that I'll tell y'all someday about her going to be at school and how the Lord

1383
01:16:32.920 --> 01:16:44.560
made provision for that, how he guided me to what obedient school. She needed to go to that the package, etc. By following where my piece was that because

1384
01:16:45.560 --> 01:16:51.520
And it was not, I couldn't. I didn't make the decision based off of the way that when normally would

1385
01:16:51.960 --> 01:16:58.720
And I was like, no. So, you know, not to make decisions like that anymore. I mean, in that same way anymore. You know how to now make decisions from

1386
01:16:59.200 --> 01:17:09.440
And where your pieces at so I've been had to step out in faith and and do that. So anyway, but that'll be another fun story sometimes. But yeah, she's she has

1387
01:17:09.920 --> 01:17:20.680
Learned all kinds of neat little things. So she now walks. She now heels and very beautifully on a leash. She doesn't bark at people and dogs.

1388
01:17:21.240 --> 01:17:40.560
She used to see what else she she comes when called she's she's an impressive little girl and she is like 10 or 11 years old. So all dogs can learn new tricks. Can't say yes, they can. Yeah. Anyway, so does anyone have anything before we for a jump off.

1389
01:17:41.480 --> 01:17:44.000
That was funny when you said your dog heels. I was like,

1390
01:17:44.640 --> 01:17:46.320
She heals like

1391
01:17:46.320 --> 01:17:46.600
That's

1392
01:17:57.680 --> 01:17:58.640
No, I heal.

1393
01:18:01.200 --> 01:18:07.400
Like you're speaking healing power over her like she heals quickly because you speak life over her. And then I realized

1394
01:18:08.880 --> 01:18:09.800
The final option.

1395
01:18:09.800 --> 01:18:19.800
Yeah, I'm trying to think I have prayed over her because she was abused before I got her. So I have prayed over her and she's healed tremendously as a result and of

1396
01:18:20.800 --> 01:18:33.800
Not being so afraid of people and dogs, even before she went to a beating school. I mean, she made the largest transformation just by me praying and but but yeah, she doesn't

1397
01:18:34.800 --> 01:18:35.240
Does feel

1398
01:18:35.240 --> 01:18:37.640
She has killed. Absolutely. But yeah.

1399
01:18:39.040 --> 01:18:55.240
Well, it's good to get to visit with everybody and I'm trying to think next week. Okay, this is very interesting. So I was supposed to head out to start traveling next week that fell through the last minute.

1400
01:18:55.240 --> 01:19:12.240
Because the lady that I was supposed to my friend of mine that I was supposed to go visit. She's been sick. The past several days, she told me. And so she thought, um, I'm in the hot spot in Texas for the virus. So let me go get myself tested. She tested positive.

1401
01:19:13.240 --> 01:19:26.240
So, um, I won't be won't be able to visit her until maybe August or something like that. So I think the first place I'll go is either Arkansas or Louisiana and then I'll and then I'll come back here for a

1402
01:19:26.240 --> 01:19:35.240
Healing conference and then heading out on my longer journey. So anyway, that is my update. So I plan to still be here in DFW for next week.

1403
01:19:35.240 --> 01:19:40.240
That was just a plan that just recently happened. So, anyway.

1404
01:20:00.000 --> 01:20:06.880
Okay, but I might be in a different room. So you might have a different background, other than the door.

1405
01:20:09.400 --> 01:20:12.800
Is Rafi I might be with my brother and sister in law.

1406
01:20:14.040 --> 01:20:25.280
Well, it's good to get to see everybody y'all make sure to reach out if y'all have anything. I have some of y'all that are reaching out online Marco Polo and letting me know. And, you know, we always in the middle of struggling with something.

1407
01:20:25.760 --> 01:20:36.640
And and I've had some of those this week come through. And so I always love getting to visit with y'all. Don't forget, if you get a chance to post in the group and

1408
01:20:37.440 --> 01:20:41.840
You know, even though those of you who who passed the four weeks just to

1409
01:20:42.720 --> 01:20:50.360
You know, kind of, you know, like what Carrie did give an update give encouragement of, hey, look, this is what it looks like. Because you remember that so few of us.

1410
01:20:50.720 --> 01:21:01.680
Are actually walking out this this journey and we hope more people will as they're hearing the same message from their father, like we are at how we can move into rest that and so if everybody had a chance.

1411
01:21:02.040 --> 01:21:11.680
You know, you can just talk about and you can be real and just say, oh, I'm in the middle of this or that or the other, or God's been showing me this that or the other, or

1412
01:21:12.040 --> 01:21:17.800
Hey, here's, here's a really encouraging testimony that I wanted to share. So anyway, I was looking to hear him.

1413
01:21:19.040 --> 01:21:21.440
Well, I will see y'all later. Y'all have a good night.

1414
01:21:21.520 --> 01:21:22.840
So good to be with you, girl.

1415
01:21:25.080 --> 01:21:25.600
You all

1416
01:21:26.800 --> 01:21:27.080
All right.

1417
01:21:28.760 --> 01:21:29.280
Bless you.

1418
01:21:30.560 --> 01:21:31.040
Night.