There we go. Yeah, I'm trying to see if I can actually switch to my computer.
Let's see.
Hey, Chloe. Will you turn the light on in here.
First, I had to leave it off because there's some really cool lightning but sitting in the dark.
Just that one. Yeah, thank you.
See how this goes.
Yeah, I should be good. How have you been
Doing all right. Dan's in Virginia. He left yesterday and be back tomorrow.
So, oh, it's kind of a rush this evening to get here and now we have a pretty good thunderstorm and Bailey's afraid of storm. So we'll see how long I can stay
Yeah, yeah.
Okay, so let me switch over to my computer really quick. So I'm gonna put myself on mute.
Okay, and then I'll get off the
Okay.
Well, that was pretty cool.
So what I did is I wanted to think so in order to prevent feedback is I had to put myself on mute on my phone and
And then and then come over here and make sure that I was on mute and then I had to assign myself as the host over here so that I would recognize me over here.
Nice.
But yeah, I forgot that I just logged on to my phone not thinking because I do so many of my calls nowadays on
On so many of my zoom meetings I just do on my phone. Ooh, and I wasn't thinking about the fact that I do prefer to do these to do these
Community Q AMP. A's on the computer, because then I have it has the panorama of me as opposed to just like this little box. So I'm not have to move a little setup. I've got here. Hey, Susan, you made it. Yay. How are you sure that you're that your team is okay at church. Yeah.
We're actually we're having a really bad storm. So, oh, if we'll, we'll see how long my internet stays
Well, same thing for steps. She's having a real issue said really cool lightning. And so she's hoping to see it. She's hoping that she'll be able to stay to so
We had one. Well, when the bad storm, but we had a lot of rain. Yes. Day before yesterday, I think. So, hey, Catherine.
So it must be for storms are there in the will not the East Coast because just on the East Coast, but she's West Virginia. So I don't know. I don't, I haven't looked at the radar. I don't know if there's like this line of squalls that
Anyway.
So if you can hear my dog in the background.
But just barely just barely
But just barely, just barely.
Has been we we've set outside all day and I and I moved to my office outside for the day. So DASA is fully exhausted, having chased
Having diligently protected the yard all day from squirrels and birds, including a baby bird that was learning to fly. So I had to try to protect it. It was awful cute. It fell out of its nest.
And then, and then, and even in its attempt to fly ran into my leg and just kind of flew into my leg into the side of the side of the
Not the house, but like this little washer dryer area shed it flew in there and that it in an abandoned my leg flew off and then it landed in a hole. I'm like, can you get out by yourself.
I'm sure it can, but I thought I'll just keep an eye on it. Sure enough, I got it all. I know how they they are like like the second third attempt. It really takes off across the garden. I'm like, you did it.
It was cute.
Anyway, but yeah, cute little baby bird. He was terrified of me. He was just breathing really hard.
He's just looking at me, you know, deer in the headlight look like, oh,
what are you going to do with me? I was like, I'm just checking on you. We can be friends.
Little thing. So we had fun outside today. So Doss is very,
very exhausted from all of her vigilant security work.
But did y'all ever read the Hank the Cowdog series growing up?
Y'all ever heard of the Hank the Cowdog series? Okay, so you did hear about it? You've heard about
it? Yeah. Hank the Cowdog was written by John R. Erickson, who is a Texas rancher. I think West
Texas, which is where I'm from. And so while we were reading, Hank the Cowdog had ranch security.
You know, so it's a dog who just takes his bull. He's this mutt of a dog. And his sidekick is
another mutt. And they take their ranch security duties very seriously. And nobody else,
including the ranchers, takes them very seriously. So anyway, they periodically get drunk with their
nemesis's rip and snort, the coyotes. They get drunk with them periodically in the silage pit.
Just stories like that are just hilarious. And they sing at the moon after they're drunk on
silage. Which, you know, it's just all that fermented feed. It's stories.
Anyway, we grew up on those kinds of stories, which is really weird to think of, like,
you know, talking about, like, drunk cowdogs and children's stories.
And it's not like alcohol, but it's silage. Well, it's, you know, it's a little different because
kids can't eat silage. Yeah. Actually, it reminds me, we had a series like that,
or book like that. I'm from North Carolina. So in the South, it was Uncle Remus.
Yes. Did you ever read those?
Yes, Br'er Rabbit. Br'er Rabbit, yeah. My mom could do the accents so well. But I think there
was a lot of, like, moonshine drinking and stuff like that. And those as well. And I remember,
yeah, it's just kind of like, why? That's right. Southern stories. Yeah.
Yeah. In fact, there was a meme going around during the whole, you know, the whole meme fest
the past few months. And it was a picture of these two bootleggers in there, you know,
out in the hills of Kentucky or something, you know, when they're still. And it said
something like, moonshine? Oh, no, officer. We're making, we're making a hand sanitizer.
Yeah.
I don't know the full story. But that was something that they always teach my grandma about
was her family and the holler they're from. I guess a little bit of that went on back in my
family tree. Oh, really? The moonshine still? Yeah. I have no clue, but. Now, what is moonshine
again? Is that bourbon? That's bourbon, right? Isn't that what moonshine is? I'm trying to
remember what moonshine is. There's another name for it that we know it for. And the Redneck
version, you know, the cheap version is called moonshine. I don't remember what that is.
I don't know. Google is helping me. Oh, you're gonna Google it for us? Yeah.
Let's talk about alcohol. But I was I said something a friend of mine said the other day.
Oh, you know, actually, that's whiskey. I didn't know that. Whiskey? Really? Oh, yeah. It's homemade
unaged whiskey. I did not know that. Okay, there we go. Now we know. So I guess you know that you
can light the good stuff, and it'll like burn clean. And oh, yeah, I've heard all kinds of stuff.
Yeah. Yeah. And like, though, is it bourbon that the light on top of like certain desserts,
you know, to get them to fling like certain? Is it bourbon? Okay. And you can call those
flaming desserts that you can get in a restaurant. Yeah. I don't think I've ever had one of those.
But oh, I've had bananas flambé one time. It was so good. That's right. I've heard it. Again,
never had it. But anyway, I married into a family that uses hot toddies. So as medicine.
Yes. Yeah, that was when I had a hot toddy was when my mom. And when my mom made me she could
not believe that she was actually making me one. Hey, Renee, how you doing? You've landed
Been on a really fun conversation.
So she was shocked that she made this for me,
but it was because I had a really high fever.
I was an adult with a really high fever at like 103, 104,
which, you know, is really high for an adult.
It wouldn't break for days.
And so, I mean, medicine wouldn't work,
nothing would work, ibuprofen, nothing.
So she got desperate and she's like,
okay, what home remedies will work?
And she's like, I've heard a hot toddy will work.
So my own mother shocked me and herself
by having to look up on the internet
how to make a hot toddy.
And I'm telling you what,
within 45 seconds it killed my fever.
Three sips in 45 seconds because the stuff tasted awful.
I mean, it was like, what, lemon, honey, and bourbon.
And it just, I gagged on it.
Anyway, I could only get down three swallows,
one every 15 minutes.
And it knocked that fever.
So anyway, but I didn't drink the rest of it.
It's like, that was awful.
Yeah.
We literally hid, yeah.
We hid the ingredients in the sock door upstairs
because we have kids.
And I knew, it was Christmas,
and it would just be like my mom to open a cabinet and go.
I know.
Where, mom?
Dan was sick.
That's so funny.
Yeah, like medicinal purposes.
The only thing that'll knock it when ibuprofen won't.
He and his dad swear by it.
Yeah.
He and his dad swear by it.
So like hot toddy and go to bed.
It works.
It really does.
With nothing else works.
I'm like, I need to function, so.
Yeah.
That's right.
Yeah.
So anyway, after that fun conversation,
does anyone have anything?
We're about 16 minutes in, I guess,
does anyone have anything that they've been,
that they wanted to catch us up on
about how Laura's been talking to them
or any questions that they've had
of something that they've been going through
when they were wondering,
okay, well, I know how to do this from one perspective,
but I was just curious, you know,
what about from a place of rest or, I don't know, anything.
Carrie had her baby.
Very exciting.
Aw.
Let's see.
So funny.
I know you're going to ask this question,
but I never prepared.
I know.
Yeah.
I know a lot.
I think that a lot of people are.
So eventually, sometimes I have to come up
with something that someone's asked me throughout the week
that I think, oh, I think that everyone would,
and that other people would find this interesting.
And then eventually it raises other questions
and people are like, oh, I don't know.
I don't know.
It raises other questions and people are like,
oh, okay, well, I've got a question.
I just haven't thought of.
Yeah.
So I can come up with something.
I'll sit and think too.
I'll take on the homework assignment too.
See if there's anything.
I need to watch your spiritual warfare video.
I didn't get to watch it.
The girls and I were talking every Thursday evening,
no matter how much I try to preempt it,
everything falls apart.
Like, it's crazy.
It's like, I need to be there at nine o'clock.
And it took like, yeah, the devil just said, let's go.
It's like, where's Holly?
She needs to hear this.
But yeah, I need to watch your spiritual warfare video.
I haven't got to yet.
Yeah.
But it's literally every Thursday evening
that it falls apart.
Really?
Did it before these things started or not?
I mean, did it or didn't it?
No.
It would like for different things,
but this is like clockwork.
And we were even to the point that,
okay, except for before you get your shower,
boom, boom, boom.
And then Tonka was the one that threw the wrench
in the plans this evening, but the dog.
Yeah.
So, oh, you're kidding me.
Dan calls at 8.30 and said,
I am literally still in the shower.
I will talk to you later.
No.
So, I forgot what it's like to do
the whole single mom thing, pipeline wife thing.
So.
Oh, that's right.
Yeah, I'll have to watch that.
So, I don't know if it, yeah.
Yeah.
Definitely feel unrattled.
I'll watch the video later.
Yeah.
So, someone had asked me about that.
Their particular issue was related to
someone that had,
that they were wondering,
that felt that they were coming against them.
And so, the client was wondering,
is there, is that spiritual warfare?
Or is it just that person?
Or like, is something coming against me
through that person?
Or is it?
And then they began to think,
well, is there such a thing as spiritual warfare?
And because I was thought there was,
and so I worked,
so I watched.
through that in a Marco Polo. And I thought, well, wait a minute, spiritual warfare. I need to,
I need to just do a live about that. Because actually they, in the, and I mentioned it,
I said, yeah, I should probably do a live about that. So then they got on there and they said,
yes, please do a live because they said, otherwise I'm not going to know which,
whenever I need to watch this again, which Marco Polo it was that you talked about that.
And they said, I'm going to have to remember what was she wearing in that one.
Amy's told me that before about something. And she wasn't the person who was asking me
the spiritual warfare question, but she was talking to me about something. And she said,
you know, it's the one where you're wearing red. That's a good way to remember. And so I thought,
okay, so instead of thinking so much about what I title everything, I should think much more
consciously of what it is that I wear and make sure I always wear something different in every
video. So you don't get confused. Okay. No more purple. I've already worn purple.
But anyway, so yeah, the spiritual warfare just kind of, just to touch on really, really quickly
is just the idea that yes, obviously there is still spiritual warfare, but we can understand
it from a different perspective. And the fact that we can understand that we're not threatened by it
because everything is under Christ's feet. So we're not threatened by it. But of course,
Satan can try to tempt us just like he tempted Jesus and Jesus obviously never sinned. And so
in other words, Satan can come against us just like he did, or it can try to, to confuse us,
et cetera. But the thing about spiritual warfare is we're the highest power in the universe outside
of, you know, obviously God. And I mean, well, obviously, you know, God, the father, and then
Christ who always has the preeminence because we're the body, but he's always the head of the
body. So we're the highest power in the universe over even over Satan and all those other in other
spiritual beings. So the thing that they have to do, because their power isn't powerful enough
against us, they have to get us to use our own power against ourselves. That's what spiritual
warfare is. And that's why with what say, if you look back and read back with how Satan
talked to Eve, hey, Elizabeth, how Satan talked to Eve, he didn't, he had to ask her questions
so that she would try to convince herself of something. He's like, well, did God say,
and oh, that's not really what he meant. He meant this and wouldn't you like to be as wise as God,
wouldn't you like to, like God, know the difference between good and evil. He had to
convince her. He didn't force her into anything. He was not a threat. You know, he could not
overpower her. She wasn't a victim to him. But she, but he used her own power, which is the power of,
you know, our belief. He used our own power, he tries to get us to use our own power against us,
against ourselves. That's why, again, it's the only thing that's getting in the way of us being
able to live out who it is that we already are in Christ. Because we already have everything.
The problem is we don't believe we do. And so anyway, that's in a nutshell, which I said in like
30 minutes in this spiritual warfare video. But that in a nutshell summary, that's what it is
that I'm saying is where it's not, it's not a threat. And because if something cannot actually
overpower us, it can't be a threat. Now it can try to threaten us, but not actually a threat.
Does that make sense? So that's another one. Is there, and I'll go watch the video, but is there
still a space for like, cause you hear some people being like, speak to the spirit that's coming
against you and like take authority over it and that kind of thing. Like, okay, as long as you're
not doing it from a spirit of fear. Correct. Because if you're doing it from a spirit more of
fear means that we're down, you know, in our soul, in our body, and we're trying to use a tool like
a spiritual principle, which are very effective, by the way, God gave them to us to use kind of like,
if, if the sun is going off to battle, you don't want, and they're like, no, I want to go up to
battle. And God's like, okay, fine. Here's a sword, you know? So, okay. If you won't let me protect
you, here's a sword, and then you can protect yourself and I'll teach you how to do it. So you
can do it. But so that being said, we, so we can do that out of, out of fear and, but it's harder
because we're going head to head and they know all the rules and we know all the rules and it's who
knows the rules better. It works great when we know the rules, but what about when we find ourselves
in certain spiritual situations in which they are smarter? They know more than we do about their
strategies. That's why certain people who do, who have deliverance ministries, and we're talking
intense stuff. I've had like,
separate conversations with people who do deliverance,
people who claim that their souls have been split
in all kinds of wild things.
And they do deliverance ministry.
They help, they have a deliverance ministry
in which they, and there's a lot of people who do this,
in which they try to help these people
and they learn all of the spiritual laws.
They learn all of the ways and the wiles of the devil
and how to use it and how to use the weapons
that God created against Satan,
because Satan has them too and da, da, da.
All of it works, but it's hard, it's exhausting.
You have to know more than he does
in order to try to overpower him
if we're doing it out of fear or do it out of the spirit.
Now, understand though, this is very important.
When there's nothing wrong with tools,
so even Jesus used tools.
So even when we're operating out of the spirit,
yes, we can command and yes, you can speak with authority.
But when we're speaking with authority
and we're speaking in a command,
we are effortlessly using the tools that God created.
So we're still using those same spiritual principles.
We're not ignoring them.
We're not nullifying them, none of it.
We're using them and by using them,
we're manifesting heaven down into the earth.
We're telling the spiritual principles and spiritual laws,
okay, I'm over you and I'm telling you,
this is how I want you to operate.
But because we're above them and we're governing them,
we don't have to micromanage
and know exactly how they do what they do
in order for them to work for us.
So there's a reason why God created spiritual principles
and they're not being nullified or not used
just because we're operating in the spirit.
It just kind of like when God put us in creation
and he put us in the world
where we're in the middle of things like the wind,
we're in the middle of waves, we'll walk on ground,
there is gravity and whatever.
It's because it's a good thing.
Jesus was walking and living completely out of the spirit
and he interacted with the physical world.
He interacted with physical laws.
He wasn't always telling them that they were wrong
and that they needed to do something different.
He was like, no, God created you to function
in a particular way and that's wonderful.
Continue to function in the way that you were designed to,
but do not function in chaos,
believing you're abandoned and alone
and subjected to frustration.
We're not getting rid of creation
just like we're not getting rid of spiritual laws
just because we're operating in the spirit.
We're teaching everything to come into alignment
and submission to, or not submission,
but into alignment with what truth is in the spirit
and just manifest what it is that they were created to,
how they were created to operate,
how they were created to function.
And yeah, because they were subjected
to frustration after Adam sinned.
So in other words, spiritual laws and physical laws
existed before Adam fell.
So it's not like spiritual laws existed
after Adam fell and God gave them to us as weapons
because, well, okay, you didn't have a need for them before,
but now you do.
No, there was always a reason for them.
There is a good reason and they existed.
So even though we live in this,
that we wanna operate more in the spirit
and we wanna operate the way that Adam did before the fall,
we still use spiritual laws, they still have a place.
We're just wanting them to take back
their original function and their original identity
as opposed to the fact that currently creation
is subject to frustration and tends to be upset
and act in chaos, antagonism, and maliciousness
towards us and towards itself.
Kind of like an autoimmune disease
where the body turns in on itself.
That's what creation is doing.
It's self imploding in a way.
It is, it's self-destructing
and we're trying to tell everything, no, no, no, no,
this, I'm a son of God and I'm telling you
this is who it is that you are.
I'm restoring you back to the way
that God intended you to operate.
We're not getting rid of them.
So I just wanna mention that the importance
of spiritual tools and spiritual principles
is not like, oh, well, only the people who are carnal
and only when we're operating out of the spirit
do we need them.
We still use them when we operate out of the spirit,
but we use them because we're governing them,
not because we're in the middle using them out of fear.
Like, oh my goodness, they're our only hope.
only savior. I hope that makes sense. Yeah, it does. Yeah. So
they're good things because God created all those things. It's
how we use them and what we put our faith in. Do we put our
faith in the spiritual principles that it says our
spiritual principles that are going to save us from the fact
that Satan's attacking us, or someone says attacking us? Or do
we put our faith? Do we use the tools but you putting our faith
in the Lord like no, the Lord's the one who's having the
victory. And I'm discovering the spiritual principles to
manifest the fact that God's already had the victory. Yeah.
And it sounds like it's in context of relationship to like,
everything out of us taking the tool and walking away with it
and being like, I now have this tool, I can use it whenever I
want to, it's more about, like, which tool is the Holy Spirit
like leading us to pick up in any particular moment, if
there's a tool at all.
Um, and, um, so not to get really complicated. It's a I
want to mention this because it's freeing. With a king does
not have to know everything that his subjects know, in order to
govern them, and for his subjects to be able to function
the way they were intended to function, kind of like a
supervisor at work. He doesn't have to know everybody at the
ins and outs of every single person's job to be able to do it
better than they can do it in order to be a good supervisor.
No, he just needs to know how to provide and I say this from
experience and having worked as turnaround business consultant,
that the best supervisors are those who provide an environment
in which everybody underneath them has what they need to do
what they know how to do best. They know how to do their job
better than the supervisor does. And as long as the supervisor
can, you know, trust those people, the best supervisor just
provides a covering and an environment in which, which
facilitates them being able to function freely without
hindrance, that they have whatever it is that they need
not to micromanage them. And so it's the same thing for us. We
don't have to know all the spiritual laws, principles and
tools and know which tool to pick up and which ones to use in
order to operate out of the spirit as a king. We just need
to know how to govern. Everything else already knows
how to function the way that God intended it to. We don't have to
know all of the ins and outs of everything. Now, obviously, you
know, we will, I believe that we will know everything if we're in
God, then we can come to know everything and learn everything
and appreciate all the wonderful things that God made. So there's
nothing wrong with knowledge, there's nothing wrong, but we
don't need it. We're not dependent on it in order for
them to function how they should simply because we're governing
them. So in other words, it's freeing because we don't have to
know all things. So we don't even have to. So sometimes we
may not even know which tool the Holy Spirit is telling us to
use. He might tell us to use a particular tool. He's teaching
us how to kind of like a how Joseph told, taught, taught his
son Jesus, and how to, how to use different carpentry tools.
Well, son, you want to use this tool for this kind of thing, and
this tool for this kind of thing, and whatever, you know,
the Lord does the same thing with us, but it's getting those
things to serve us, not us serving those things. But we
also don't have to know all the ins and outs of them, of the
tools in order, and how, and everything that it, we don't
have to know their job better than, than they do necessarily
in order to be able to be an effective king and a governor.
But because we're in Christ, we will come to know all things.
And we'll come to know their jobs better than they do,
because we're the creator, because we're in the creator.
And then I believe that, you know, God desires us to act like
him. So there's an element in which he desires us to, to be
creators, too. He's bothering us into all of that. But he's
teaching us here on earth where we can mold clay, and we think
we're really important. You know, it's like he's teaching us
to be creators. Yeah, he'll give us bigger stuff later. Yeah.
Yeah.
So
anyone have anything else? That was a big one from this week.
I'll have to think I had anything else from someone else
this week.
This is hi to pretty I've kind of been a ghost. Not
intentionally, but mine's Renee. So to Catherine, and then I
think I'm trying to see who else is on here. Elizabeth is new.
And so
Susan. Anyway, so I'm in the Dallas area and it's nice to meet you guys. But, um, can you hear me. Okay. I don't know if these earphones. Can you hear. Okay.
What is my question. Um, so I woke up the other night.
So I, so I guess my question.
Sorry, my dog scratching on my door. I don't want her to scratch off the paint. Um,
Yeah.
Come here. Get in. Are you coming in so annoying. Sorry. She scratched and then he left. Um, we have to, um, so
I'm not getting into all the details, but so I, so like when you're making this transition from kind of 60 fold to a hundred fold or kind of, um, more charismatic, you know, teaching, whatever, into like, just better understanding your, um, beloved son of God, you know, um, at rest, that kind of thing.
Um,
And and how the gifts. I'm sorry. I'm kind of trying to put some context to what I woke up to the other night. Um,
Oh, and by the way, everyone when she talks about 30 60 and 100 we touched on this just briefly in the three realms teaching, but just in case I didn't cover it very well.
She was referring to the body as 30 fold the soul as 60 fold and the spirit as hundred fold.
Referencing when the sowing of the seed when the when it said that the seed that fell on good ground.
Some of it reached 30 fold some 60 and some 100. In other words, even though it's good ground, it can read different amounts, depending on the level to which they believe God is good.
Yes. And then to, and to the, and that, that can be as you're reading scripture, you can extract the 30 fold. You can extract the 60 fold as, as the spirit gives revelation or, or the more, you know, from the body soul spirit. So, yeah. So I'm sorry. I didn't mean to make anything confusing, but, um,
So what was I saying? So, and so, and there's a, like the gifts are, you know, in the, in the soul realm and, and these wonderful things that God's given us the Holy Spirit's given us. And so my question, I'm getting to a question. I'm sorry. I'm trying to tee it up a little bit.
For me, like, you know, I didn't grow up.
So over the last 10 years, like 10 years ago, kind of went from being more in the, the body kind of church. Then God transitioned me into more of the charismatic got baptized in the Holy Spirit had really over the last probably seven years, um, just a lot of, um,
More kind of Bethel. I think that's where Catherine said she was more that kind of, um, love Bethel grown so much through their teachings and, but just very Holy Spirit, like feeling the manifestations of the spirit, that kind of thing. And then as the Lord's kind of transitioned me still transitioning me still long way to go into more of the rest that that's kind of been a journey, the last couple of years, um,
The way that the Holy Spirit kind of interacted me with me and where there will be more physical manifestations like him just, just very, I don't want to say demonstrative, but some of you might know what I'm talking about. But anyway, he's just fathering me and teaching me different ways to hear and see and, and sense his presence.
And since his presence, um, as I've kind of transitioned over transitioning, it's not, you know, into more of just this place of rest and intimacy. Um, like that is not, um, as it's just not as prevalent. And so here's my question. So the other night I woke up in the middle of the night.
And it was like having this, this idea of like, when you're riding a bike, you first learned to ride the bike, you have the training wheels and the, and the training wheels come off and you're a little bit wobbly and you're kind of going. So it was like, I woke up. Um, I guess I was just thinking about, um, just this transition from relying so heavily on operating from the gifts of spirit to this transition of like knowing like, and just believing God for his word.
And we should do that with the other, but I'm just saying like, it's just a different place of rest and not, no, not as much striving, not as much. Anyway, all this stuff that Ashley's teaching, um, and other people teach as well. But for this purpose, all the different videos that she's been teaching and talking about. And so my question, I know there is going to be a question. I promise, um, was, it was like, I woke up and it was like my, I was, it was like this sense. And of course I'm in the middle of the night.
I'm asleep but in my sleep, I'm like this grieving. It's like this grieving. Cause it was like this.
was this grieving in a bad way, but just like missing like the way that the Lord would interact
with me over the last, you know, seven or eight, I guess this transition's been, I've
kind of been on this journey for maybe a year and probably two years, I think is when I
kind of got introduced to some of this teaching. But, and so there was this grieving, but I've
not, but anyway, so it was just, I was just curious. That was my question. Like, Ashley,
has that been, or maybe any of you other girls, like, has there been this sense of like not
grieving, like, cause this is where I want to be. And I, my intimacy with the Lord is
far exceeds where I was with him. I mean, but it's all been sweet, right? He's good
no matter what, but it was just interesting. I kind of woke up and like, that's what I
was thinking about. Oh, training wheels off. And it's a little bit awkward, but then, you
know, I don't really know what my question is. I guess it's more the grieving. Does that,
does that make sense? Like, but that was just when I was in the middle of the night, totally
asleep. And then during the day, like, I don't really think about it. I'm like, Oh, I'm not
sad. Like, I love the place that the Lord has me right now. And the depth that he's
taking me in the revelation that he's showing me and that kind of thing. But it was just
interesting in the middle of the night waking up. And those are kind of the things going
through my, that I was thinking about going, Oh, this is interesting. This, you know, whatever.
So I don't know if any of that makes sense, but it does. I think it's a really fascinating
point to bring up. It's the same way that we grieve when our parent, when our children
go through are no longer babies and then grow up that it's not that you don't enjoy where
your children are now. Oh my word. You can just relate to your, your, you know, that
you're a 10 year old in different ways than you could when they were a baby. And yet the
baby years are precious. So in other words, the grieving means that you, you treasure
and then you valued what it is that the Lord had given because they go gives good things.
So he had fathered you into, fathered all of this into the seasons that we, that we
have been in on our journey because it's the kindness of God that leads into, it shifts
us and calls us into new seasons. But just because he calls us to repent, in other words,
to leave one season that he called us into, to leave one season and to begin a new season
doesn't mean that we don't value the other season. It doesn't mean that it wasn't good.
And so we can grieve it. And then the fact that we're like, well, I'm leaving that. And
yes, I'm leaving it for something better, but the grieving means I appreciated it. I
valued it. It was special and Lord, you know, this is my letting it go. And this is my,
there's a grieving process. Like when we let loved ones go, it's, it's just this, it's,
it's just, it's an acknowledgment of how much we valued and appreciated the gift of what
it is that God had given us and how we had interacted with him in relationship. I think
that that's really, really fascinating to, to bring out. Because yeah, I mean, it makes,
it makes complete sense. And I found it neat that you, you did it when you were, you know,
you encountered that when you were sleeping, but not so much in your conscious state. So
apparently, you know, your soul, because a lot of times in our dream state, it's not just,
it's not just things that we're experiencing in the spirit, but also things that in which
our soul things that can come up out of our soul can evidence themselves in our dream state as
well. And it might be just be something that, you know, your soul is going through that your
consciousness wasn't aware of, but you became aware of the fact that subconsciously there's
an element of you that's grieving and, and the, the transition and the law, I don't want to say
the loss, but let's just call it a loss, the loss of one, the movement from one season into another,
the letting go of one thing, which is always a good thing, but letting go the releasing of one
thing in order to have another, but we just value the preciousness of what that was. I think that
that's really sweet, really sweet. And I liked how you said that you didn't feel like there was this,
I don't remember the word you use, but you're like, you didn't feel like it was bad or that
there was like this heaviness or negativity to it, but you did acknowledge the fact that you
could acknowledge the fact that this is grieving now. No, it was, it was a really sweet, it was
like a, just a night kind of encounter where it was like, it was just this, it was a remembering,
a fond remembering of, oh gosh, Lord, we had all these really sweet times together. And the way
that you were fathering me and teaching me, cause it was, you know, just very, I felt like he put me
in the microwave and, and press double high for the way he fathered me through several things.
Oh, I'm sorry.
And so, yeah, so it was, but it was interesting cause it was in the middle of the night and
And then, yeah, and then the very next night,
I woke up again, just basically about the same time.
And what he was talking to me about then
was more about kind of what you were teaching
a little bit on with the spiritual warfare,
which was, he said, when you soar,
when you fly above the turbulence or fly above the clouds,
he said, fly above the clouds,
you miss the turbulence below.
And so it was just this,
and which I've walked through all the turbulence
in the middle with the spiritual warfare
back at the 10 years ago,
which I know I shared with you, Ashley,
but anyway, it was just interesting.
Again, he was just reminding me again,
like, this is where you wanna be,
living above the clouds.
And so that's kind of, I woke up with that thought,
like, live above the clouds
and the storms and turbulence below.
Like, if I'm hidden in him and living in him,
then conscious of whatever.
So I'm not gonna get into all that,
but it was just interesting.
That was kind of back to back.
It was like kind of a grieving,
but then this like excitement of this new,
discontinued to this new place of living.
So anyway.
Yeah, which is perfect
because it shows you can appreciate it.
I'm sorry, were you gonna say something, Catherine?
I was just gonna piggyback on that if I can.
Cause I think I've experienced something similarly,
even just in the couple of weeks that I've been in this.
Like I, like her,
I've been through a season where
there was a lot of just like papa,
just like, okay, step by step by step.
And so much like handholding and experiencing him
and manifestations and that kind of thing.
And then as I've gotten to where
he's like, okay, like you can go make your decisions now.
I think it just finally sunk in for me.
So I was just gonna throw this in there
in case it helps anybody else too.
But I think it finally sunk in for me the other day
when I realized like that's the maturing process,
is like we start out as kids.
And so the grieving even feels like,
I think like grieving how you were sort of babied
when you were a kid and like,
your mom like took care of everything
and then you start growing up and it's like,
now you have to figure out life on your own
or you have to make your own decisions
because they're actually like trying to teach you
to be good decision makers.
So it just, it really ministered to me the other day
cause the Lord like just showed me the example
of basically like he's a king teaching me how to be a king.
And I can't like, I can't be a king or a queen
if I'm constantly going back to him
and asking him what to do.
But there's like a, there's a more independence
and there are moments now where he'll be like
what feels like silent because he's actually waiting
for me to show up with something
because he wants my input.
And that has been like a really interesting switch for me
where it's like, oh, what do I want?
You know?
So I don't know if anyone else has felt that,
but I can just so relate to the, like, it feels exciting
but it's also like, oh, at first,
but I wouldn't go back, you know?
Yeah.
So.
And you're right.
It is the maturing process.
You know, we're being fathered into it.
We're being taught by tutors and governors.
You know, it says that, you know, when you're young
you're taught by tutors and governors
even though they, the tutors and governors are,
even though you are a king
and the tutors and governors are subject to you,
they will teach you how to,
it's really interesting how all that works.
But anyway, that all aside, yeah,
that whole thing of being fathered into how to be a king,
how to start making your own decisions.
You know, when we're really young,
our parents teach us how to make decisions.
It's like, okay, well, you know,
we're gonna help you pick out these things
when you're really young.
But the, one of the stories that I've heard of
is a way that I've heard it described is,
you know, if you, you're really young and you get to,
you know, your parents pick out your shoes for you.
You know, when you're little and you've got your own,
you've got your own room and they were gonna tell you,
you're gonna wear these shoes.
And you're like, okay, I'm gonna wear these shoes.
And then you finally, you know, get to be four years old
and they'll say, okay, you can wear these shoes
or these shoes, which ones you want.
They're teaching you how to make decisions,
but in a limited, with limited options.
And then as you get older, well then, you know,
that you have the opportunity to pick your own shoes
and then eventually you buy your own shoes.
So it, it just, he fathers it.
In the same way he teaches us how to make decisions and he does it in a safe environment, but he just teach us how to make our own decisions.
Independently, in a way. Now, yeah, it's not completely independently, but it's more like being learning to think for ourselves and have a desire and and and bring ourselves, you know, to the table with it. So yeah, you're right. Yeah, so
I think that's a really, really interesting and experience that both of y'all have had about that, about that, leaving one and moving into the other and grieving. Grieving what it is that that you're leaving.
So, because, yes, that that can happen, especially if what you've been given was such was such amazing revelation that it, you know, was, um, it just saved you. For me, I have not grieved it, but I think that's because I've learned a lot from it.
Because I held on to it so long that I didn't want to leave it because it was my what God moved me into before he moved me into the the rest that I that he's moved me into now where I came from.
And that place was was a freedom that I at one point moved into and I stayed in there, quote unquote, too long because I didn't want to leave someplace that was safe.
Because that compared to what I'd left was safe and it was freedom. So, but the problem is I stayed in it too long that by the time God moves me out. I was burnt out and I had like I was on fumes.
I had been in it longer than the grace had been provided for to sustain me in it. And so I didn't experience the grieving process and just because I used it all up, so to speak, I'd use that that I hadn't moved out of that phase and into the new one.
Soon enough, so it's good to know that y'all have
More responsive and when you were hearing the voice of the Lord. So that's good. I tried to be much more flexible.
Don't let me fool you. I think I stayed in my last season, a little bit too long, so
Don't want to let go
I know, I know, I know. We don't, we don't. But, but it is it's it's precious in so many different ways. Like, like what you were talking about running
The fact that you can value so much what you have the Lord and what he called you into and what he revealed himself to you and that that he saved you into himself in that season.
And then he's like, I will provide you a safety net and I will pull you into it.
In that now he's like, okay, so let's leave that and let's go into something better. It's like, oh, but Lord, that was really good. So we'll just leave that one for a little bit to just acknowledge how precious that that was
But you're moving into something even better. The best of both worlds. So to miss what you had, as opposed to be like, oh my word, I don't want to, you know,
Make me I have very different perspective that I love. That's because I didn't move fast enough. Anyway, it's all according to and
I don't know, you know, it all, it all works out for and for the best. And it, it has given me plenty of stories and content for the rest intensive
Within the other entirely too long.
So I can relate to pretty much I can really relate to almost anything that y'all have brought up. Oh my god. Yeah, I love that one because I wasn't it too long anyway.
Hey, Elizabeth. It's nice to see your face. Lovely hat.
I thank you. So good to see you girls. This is my first time with my girl Catherine on here too because I
I had to miss last Thursday out of town. So this is really extra special
Your explanation of I know I came in late. I have these prayer meetings for my house church that have been landing the same evening.
So I keep coming in late, but I caught a lot of the spiritual warfare question, even though I didn't catch the initial question I caught on, I think. And it was really cool to that the timing of that because I feel like that's
Yeah, that's like right where I'm at. And even I have this example of just two nights ago like it's still very fresh in my mind of
Of that like that switch and what you're talking about with with governing and the way in which we, you know, have authority and even like
We're trying to access these these things from a place of a fear of feeling like we're abandoned or it's up to us. And so it's like really timely and and cool like I
I don't know if I'm saying this in the right way, but I just feel like it's like
Yeah.
I can tell you real quick the example, but it was,
so my youngest daughter just turned seven.
We were on a trip in New Mexico,
our first vacation since my divorce,
and really that's like four and a half years
since the separation.
So it was a huge deal, total answer to prayer
that we even got to go without complications
because it's literally the first time that's ever happened
where even on a weekend together,
just normal weekend in town staycation,
there hasn't been drama.
And so that was a huge answer to prayer.
Well, yes, Susan, you understand.
Oh my gosh, she gets it, yes.
I know Susan got to go similarly on vacation recently,
and then I had you girls pray for my other friend, Layla,
who has a similar situation with her ex-husband,
and she got to go on her vacation last second,
not open the door, so it's just beautiful.
Anyways, the second to last, or the very last night
that we were in New Mexico, you girls,
it was late at night, we had five kids, ages one to eight.
So it was nonstop, constantly somebody's needing something
or fed or nursed or whatever.
So we finally get the kids to sleep,
and we had gone to this beautiful, amazing restaurant,
New Mexican restaurant with the red chilies hanging down
and the most beautiful architecture,
and it was just the classic New Mexican place
with amazing food while we put all the kids to bed,
and I'm sleeping with my youngest.
We lay down, she says, I'm feeling sick.
Fast forward, she's gonna throw up, she thinks,
so we go into the bathroom, and I'm like,
I'm calm through all this, thinking like, okay, okay,
but then it became this thing where then she starts saying,
she starts shivering and going, I'm hot, I'm cold,
I'm hot, I'm cold, and I'm gonna throw up,
and I'm thinking, we fly out tomorrow,
and of course I have this ex-husband
that's always waiting on a chance to pounce on me
for something, and I'm thinking, oh my gosh,
so I start going into that, I'm exhausted,
I'm starting to get anxious, like what if, oh my gosh,
what if I brought her here and she's sick?
I don't feel like she has a fever,
but I'm just in my exhausted mom brain,
and I flipped, like I got her back and forth
to the bathroom, she never threw up,
but she kept shivering in bed, and I'm just thinking,
I cannot go here, I'm not gonna sit here and wonder
if she somehow has COVID, or something happened
on this flight and this trip, no,
so I started decreeing and declaring what was true,
and I was literally the rest of the night
in and out of dreams and sleep, just going,
I just align heaven with earth right now,
I just bring heaven to earth, and I declare over her body
that she's completely okay, she's gonna wake up
in the morning, there's nothing, I was picturing Jesus
and just eyes on him, and I was saying,
you're the God of peace, and you bring order
to the wind and the waves, and I don't care
what's coming against your body right now,
we just align it all with your word,
and she is whole and healed, and I was just doing this
in my sleep all night, I barely felt like I slept,
and I woke up in the morning, and she popped up
and it was like nothing ever happened and ran off to play,
and so it was just this, I know it sounds small,
but for me, it was like, I started to go
into that old anxiety place, and of course,
you're exhausted, it's the middle of the night,
and you're thinking, I gotta fly out tomorrow,
this can't be happening, and then it's like,
no, no, no, no, uh-uh, I just completely flipped it
with God's help to this decree and declaring
with authority that heaven is here now,
and this is what's gonna happen, and this is what's happening
and it completely changed my whole demeanor,
and then it happens.
Yes!
Even if it wouldn't have happened,
I mean, there was just a peace on that ability
to move out of anxiety that I've never experienced before,
so that's a testimony.
That's wonderful, that's perfect, because we choose.
It's not just, oh, I feel anxious, and oh my goodness,
well, what if, and we're looking at this situation
and we're trying to extrapolate what could possibly happen
in the future based off of what happened in the past,
and therefore, what we should do in the present, uh-uh.
Just all of that to the wayside, and we make a choice.
What has God said?
He says that I'm this, and therefore, I have the choice
to step into it, believing that that's true,
and then acting on it, because faith
without actually acting on it isn't actually faith.
So he says it, I'm going to do it, and we have to choose,
and it's difficult, because we have all kinds of reasons
why we believe what we do, why we believe all those lies,
all the experiences that we've had in the past,
all of the things that you've had in the past,
of like, okay, well, I've been with my children before
when they've been sick, and I know what sickness looks like,
and I know that it usually lasts for X number of days,
or X number of, or 24 hours at least,
and all of these fears that we're used to,
everything that could possibly go wrong goes wrong,
and we choose that, nope, no, we're not gonna,
we're completely ignore all of that, ignore my feelings,
ignore what it is that, you know, my fears,
and all of that, and make a choice.
So that's, and the fact that I went into that mode,
it was like, so the Lord, because it was like,
that, it was like a flip.
it was like a switch because it was you can't have one and the other together. It was truly like a
this has to like change but it was like automatic and something that would not have happened before
this this time with you guys and the rest intensive I feel like it was definitely an
evidence of being able to even know that I could do that and be able to so quickly do that and it
was a complete opposite effect like yeah from here into here and this is how I do it and I felt so
much confidence in him to to have that authority and to speak that and that became my only like
that was my anchor you know through the night and it was just so cool yeah yeah so one of the things
that you were saying um is really I'd like to point out is really good but well okay two things
one is that not everything didn't just happen in that moment you had made all of these choices
in which you had been uh you've been shifting interest and you've been choosing to believe
what he says that you are etc so that when it came down to this you had all of this it was it
was a lot easier for you because you've been doing it and and sure there have been times where you
try to do it you're like oh my goodness okay I'm gonna try again oh my goodness but but when it
came to this you had been doing this enough and we've been you know you've been practicing enough
as we all do and I don't mean practices in like I know playing but yeah well playing sure there's
nothing wrong with that but the point is that uh that you've been put that this is a culmination
of of and a a compilation of what it is that you've chosen to step into and um and what you've
committed to the lord yeah and then he also came through for you in the fact that he he helped you
I'm sure you know do that as well and um and then there was something else I was gonna say oh yeah
it was the fact that you you said you know the two cannot exist at the same time and in the same
place and it's much more powerful and I and I say this repeatedly and I was even talking to
a client about it today it is so much more powerful to overcome things just by switching
to the truth and whatever is true and just declaring that and believing it etc
and ignoring the um ignoring the negative like not even trying to battle why what it is that
we're fearful of isn't true and in that that's a lie because it's because it's it's actually
whatever it is that we focus on and pay attention to we feed so if we're feeding the enemy that
we're trying to run away from we're strengthening the enemy we're trying to escape so it's actually
faster we shift faster and easier if we don't even try to counter act or or address
or um the lies and why that can't be true etc because it's acknowledging it
that there's no reason to acknowledge it whatsoever just just focus on the positive and
the positive will be so strong it'll completely overpower the negative without us even having to
give it the time of day it's very fascinating and that's what it is in operating in the spirit
versus fighting you know in the soul or the body which is just you it's who knows more and so it's
fighting the lie with more knowledge but one of the problems is I don't remember who I was talking
to somebody was asking how do you fight a lie where you don't when you don't know what the
truth is like another you don't know the counter you don't need the counter to it they were like
what do you what happens if you're presented with a lie you've never been presented with before
or maybe you have but you've never found the truth that counters it in scripture I was like
you don't even have to worry about that if you just fill up your life so much with truth you
don't even have to know what the exact truth is that counters that in order to be able to recognize
it as a lie and don't pay it any time and say you just focus on whatever it is true we don't have to
worry about well I wonder if this is true and I wonder how much how much time and attention and
effort and energy I should give into it and and while I'm trying to discern whether or not it's
a lie if we think it's a lie just totally ignore it unless we're feeling the spirit on it I mean
that's different but um but if we think that something is a lie just totally ignore it just
focus on the truth and then it will come to light later on either right then or later on the more
that we focus on the truth as to whether or not this really does align with the truth or not
but we don't have to worry about countering everything tit for tat um so anyway but that's
what you were evidencing and the fact that you were just like no just forget it and just what
is true instead of trying to tell you're trying to talk yourself out of the lie just stop just
stop whatever it is you know how I talk about you know whenever we get anxious or stressed and we
have to release whatever it is I'm doing stop just let it go let it go and then just only focus on
the truth and it's much more powerful
The other works, which is why there's all of these ministries and whatever the other
does work.
It's just a lot harder to battle that way, but at least it's harder.
So that's exciting.
I'm very excited for you.
That's, that's huge.
You know, when you said, Oh, I didn't know if you think this little, that is not little
at all.
That is bringing dominion and, and most, most Christians never bring dominion in their lives.
So that really is huge.
And I felt the difference.
And I know it was like, it was almost like a moment that I trained for, like you said,
maybe not even realizing it, you know, or counting all of what we've done the past month.
And the choices that I've made toward that, because in the moment it was, it was, it was
kind of automatic at some point, like I, I switched into that and it was a moment of
desperation.
Like I had to, or I was going to drive myself crazy all night and not sleep.
Yeah.
And sometimes desperation will do that for us.
But the reason it felt automatic is because that is who you really are.
We don't have to try to become something we already are.
We have to just stop being the thing that we're not.
And unfortunately we're in a habit of being what we're not.
But once we let go of all of that, when we do just acknowledge that we're the new man,
the new man can't help itself.
It always believes its father.
It knows who it is.
It always has, it knows how to have dominion, et cetera.
And, and it always has confidence, et cetera, et cetera.
Our spirit beings have never known anything other than being one with God.
They've never had the, so to speak, there's never been an option for it to rebel, so to
speak.
They've never known anything else.
Our soul.
Yeah.
Our soul is just like, oh, well there's this or there's this.
Our spirit, um, uh, for, for at least in the way that I've encountered it, it, it, because
there've been some times that I've actually encountered, um, this spirit man, like I've
encountered my own spirit man and spirit man of someone else.
And when I did, I, that's how I learned, oh my word, that the way that they operate, you
know, a being that knows that it's always, it's always been with God.
It's never, it's never had, it's never contemplated not knowing God.
It's never contemplated rebelling God or against God.
It's almost never contemplated or, or considered that, that, um, that, uh, something that we
have believed for so many years is, you know, that's actually a lie.
It's never possible.
It's never even considered that that could be the truth.
It's almost like it's never been exposed to lies ever.
It's never been exposed to anything but the truth.
So it just recognizes anything that doesn't line up with truth.
It's really, really fascinating.
So when we shift over into, um, believing that we are who God says that we are, that
we're the new man, that we're spirit and all of that, it's like, we've always done it.
It's like, oh yeah, this is how you do it.
And we just have to stop questioning ourselves.
We have to stop acting like the old man.
So it makes complete sense.
That's a really big deal.
I'm just so excited for you.
Yeah.
I'm looking forward to catching up about, um, about your, um, uh, your, uh, time with
the girls.
I know it was a real special time.
Just real quick.
Cause I know somebody else might have a quick question, but I was just going to piggyback
on what she just said that it was, I guess, um, just a quick testimony.
It was kind of fun, like immediate, um, just seeing God move.
But, um, so I had COVID that I'm, I'm over it now, but whatever, I was quarantined and
down for like three weeks.
So I, and I have, um, three sisters and one sister in particular, we, it used to be super
close than anyway, now not so much, um, because of some whatever, um, theological differences.
And, um, so anyway, I was kind of have a little pity party for myself, um, during my quarantine
and like, I don't, I think I talked to my, that, that particular sister, um, hadn't talked
to her in months and I had reached out to her and hadn't heard from her.
And I knew that she knew that I like had this, you know, COVID from the pandemic or whatever.
And, um, so I was having a little pity party, like, gosh, like, does she just not even want
to like call and not see how I'm doing?
Cause I'm literally like got this, you know, thing that everybody's freaking out about.
And so anyway, but I stopped in the moment and I chose and just said, you know what?
I choose that, uh, she loves, you know, whatever.
I can't remember exactly what I said, but just that just believing like, you know what?
She loves me.
Um, I can't, I said like a little two Senate, you know, I'm going to choose to believe that
my family, my friends, they love me, they care about me, whatever I said.
And I am not kidding you.
It was probably within the hour, I got a phone call and it was that sister that I hadn't
talked to in, I mean, I'm not like six, seven months.
Oh no.
I saw her and, okay, I take that.
She just doesn't ever call me.
Um, but I had called and I texted probably within the last month just
to see how she was doing and, um, didn't, you know, crickets never.
I hadn't heard from her.
I hadn't talked to her since May and anyway, but it was just cool to see.
Like I, I stopped my pity party.
I just chose to believe this is, you know, this is the truth.
And then literally saw the, you know, that truth manifest and her call and go,
Oh my gosh, I heard you had COVID and are you okay?
And blah, blah, blah, blah.
So anyway, so that's great.
Thanks for telling us.
Yes.
It's amazing.
We just, we just choose like, Nope, this is how it is.
It's like, no, that was a lie.
Forget it.
This is what the truth is.
There we go.
This is what I'm choosing.
It's my reality.
Yeah.
Good things and truth and, and what sort of things are lovely and
focusing on all of those things.
That's great.
And again, I'm so sorry that you were, you were sick.
Um, did you, I didn't ask, did you, um, uh, I knew that you'd been sick with it.
Uh, was, um, was it an extreme case?
Or no, it was mild, but, but it was, I mean, but it was, yeah,
it kind of went on and off.
It was kind of sneaky.
Like you'd feel really bad and then you'd be better the next day and you're like,
Oh, I'm fine.
And then like four days later you could hit again.
And so it was just kind of back and forth.
So, yeah.
So yeah, I know you and Amy, so yeah, it's going to the prayer house together.
Uh, and that, and the other girl that went with us too, I know she had it.
She just didn't ever get tested.
So, um, anyway, we were going to ask you what it was like with the waves of it.
Like, I haven't wanted to freak myself out.
So I've really like researched or read.
Yeah.
Well, it, I didn't know I had it for a while because it was, it was
kind of a weird thing for a while because I was having some other menopausal and I'm
older than you girls, but, um, things.
So I kept thinking that's what was going on.
I had like a headache and I was having, um, I was waking up to the night, having
these night sweats and hot flashes during the day.
And so I was like, Oh, that's just, you know, whatever, whatever.
And then, um, but after that, Amy, the other Amy, um, well, there's two Amy's.
But they were all really cranky on the next day.
So it was just crazy.
I couldn't, I couldn't stop but cry.
So I just said, I just, I just lost a prayer on a Friday.
And then the other Amy started feeling bad on Sunday and then on Tuesday, I just low
energy had a stuffy nose and anyway, so it was just the stuffy nose, the headache.
Um, and then apparently the sweating is part of COVID that you don't see the,
um, that was not a symptom I saw.
Get up to go to the bathroom, just feeling very like lethargic and, um, and then just,
um, tightness in the chest.
Like when I tried to walk, like, um, just cause I was going stir crazy at the house,
I would try to walk and then just was really hard.
It was kind of hard to breathe, but, but that was it meant that was it, but it was
mild compared to probably some people, but it definitely is.
Um, but there was one night that literally like the, this, it was fear that was trying
to take grip because the more you think about, like when you start reading about
COVID, then it's like, you know, and I literally, it was the craziest thing.
I, I was going to have my husband take me in the emergency room
because my chest was so tight.
But I knew in my spirit, okay, this is, you're having anxiety and panic because
you just looked on the internet about whatever, but my body and soul were
literally in a whatever, and so I, it was just this, just trying to shift
and pray and like speak, you know, anyway, it, we didn't go to the emergency
room, but it was just crazy.
Cause it was like, I knew my spirit, this is what this is, but I was just
trying to shift my body and my soul into this place of, you know, his
perfect love drives out fear in peace.
But it was very interesting, um, way.
It was kind of shaken down cause it was like these two forces trying to one
going, no, this is who you are.
You're okay.
And then, you know, just trying to shift my soul and body into
where my spirit already was.
So, yeah, that's, that's really interesting.
Yeah.
And then we, if we eventually, you know, we can go wherever our peace is at,
but it sounded like wherever.
So in other words, if we ever feel that we need to go to the emergency room for
we knew whatever, that's fine.
But what's interesting is that we need to go wherever our peace is at, not
wherever our fear is that in your peace with indicates where our faith is at,
which is indicating, you know, the level to which we're agreeing with our spirit.
And you knew what your spirit was saying.
You knew your spirit was just like, we know what's going on here.
So soul and body, you, you get on the bandwagon.
That's great.
That's really, really neat.
Yeah.
I hope.
hadn't I forgot that I hadn't been on here since since I had an issue with my
foot so I had an issue with my foot and I didn't tell anybody about it so I was
helping someone move some furniture and it lay it it shoved up on my on my foot
and it I mean it hurt like the dickens well and well I thought it was fine I was
like oh it'll probably just bruise it'll be fine well later on that day my entire
foot swelled up I mean it swelled up to at least 25% like my entire foot
swelled up 25% at least if not 50% it was it was huge and it was
turning purple because it was because the pressure was of the fluid was just
built up so much and I was walking on it because I didn't tell anybody that it
was hurt because I'm like no body I you know I understand that you think that
you're hurt I understand this but in the spirit which is what I am I my
identity is in this spirit and you know body you're one with the spirit and I'm
telling you we're healed you're healed and there's no reason for you to be
afraid there's no reason for you to fall threatened there's no reason for you to
think that you have to go through the normal processes of just letting this
thing work out and that I need to like you know put you in Epsom salt and I
need this and I might need to go get an x-rayed on my what if it's fractured
no we're not going to talk about that it's like you're just fine and you're
and and so acted as if it was fine I kept walking on it let me tell you
walking on a swollen foot like that's that that's swollen all over hurts so
bad because every time you put pressure on all the fluid you know is is is
continuing to press on the part that hurts oh my word it hurts so bad to walk
on my foot so bad and I couldn't and I was like no I'm not gonna tell anybody
because then they're all going to actually you need to and oh my goodness
because they didn't have the faith that I did like okay no time like the present
I'm going to tell my body that you know just declare healing that it is healed
not that it will be healed but that it is healed and sure enough within hours
trying to remember you know what oh I it was why it was the day it was last
Thursday last Thursday we were having the call and after the call my foot
finally started feeling and started evidencing healing and it just had a
little bit left to go the next day and then he's perfectly fine like there you
go that's what she needs to do I kept walking on it and it didn't like soak it
or anything and anyway so I just thought okay I just need to I need to practice
so but yes so just like you did you know if you're with a you know telling your
body you know nope we don't need to go to ER this is the saw from anxiety and
stress and there's no need for that that's good I know we we take advantage
of these times you know to and like what you did Elizabeth you know I'm taking
Dominion so well it was good to get to visit with everybody we went over a bit
today hey Alana I wanted to say hi real quick before we jump off good to see
you hello everyone's automatically muted sorry no that's okay nice to see
everyone Renee when when you said you were going through menopause like I
think my eyes almost popped out of my head I was like you do not like you look
so young I'm just I know I know she does well it is we're gonna be having
some talks with my body because I went to the doctor today and she was trying
to report some pretty crazy things from blood work that I had recently drawn and
I was like no I was that's what I was telling my body when I was you know she
left there I was like I'm sorry but you are young and you are vibrant and you
are so we're yeah but there was in the natural some negative things that were
shared with me today about some blood work but but I don't know if it was
because I got the blood work when I had COVID and I didn't know that I had COVID
when I went in for this blood work so I'm not sure if that like skewed the
numbers anyway so we don't have to go into all that but it is thank you I will
thank you for these well I'm in agreement I'm in agreement with the
health and vitality yes well I'll just be practicing I mean practicing meaning
like you know choosing to believe choosing to agree choosing to stand it
well choosing a lot of that today with my four-year-old getting out of the
physical realm of the tears and the tantrum
So no, it's actually, she's giving me an amazing opportunity
to practice all of this, so.
Well, you girls believe with me that this baby,
my baby is gonna be totally whole and healed
and nothing's gonna come following this trip.
Specifically, that there's not gonna be any backlash.
Just believe with me, there'll be no backlash
because in the past, even the last time I took them
even nearby, just in a car trip out of town,
her dad came back the very night that they went back to him
just after the weekend and said,
I'm taking her in for testing for COVID.
She's got all these four symptoms
and listed like all these horrible symptoms.
And it turned out it was completely farce.
Like he had made it up to try to manipulate,
but it was one of those moments of like,
you know what I mean?
And then here we go on a further trip.
So I'm just believing that,
especially with that scare the night before we flew out,
that there is nothing
and that he won't even attempt a second round,
especially because, I mean, surely,
like he did that the first time and had to backtrack
and go, oh, I guess I was wrong.
So surely he wouldn't try to do it a second time
because that looks really bad to make up COVID symptoms.
Yeah, he doesn't wanna be wrong again.
No, I won't be wrong again.
Well, I'm agreeing with you 100%.
I will say amen to everything you said.
Amen.
The Lord is our protection and our provision
in the fact that he doesn't have to cause things
to happen in the physical.
And I know this might sound a little esoteric,
but he doesn't have to have things happen in the physical
in order for us to not be,
in order for us to be or not be in a state
in which we're protected and provided.
So in other words, it's a state in which we're existing.
It's almost like a substance
in which we are being suspended and sustained.
It's not something that we don't have
and then he gives us when we need it.
It's something that we're never out of.
It's almost like a baby in ambiotic fluid.
We are in a state in which we are always protected
and provided for.
And so anyway, so the point is it's a lot more,
it's a lot bigger and more powerful than whatever minor,
than whatever someone might threaten
or whatever things that,
whatever fears that could come out
or we can be tempted with based off of the past.
So yeah, we'll definitely be in agreement with you on that.
Thanks, sister.
All right, well, good to see everybody.
Y'all have a good night.
Bye-bye.
Y'all have a great night.
Good to see you.
Love you.
Bye.