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Hey Steph! How are you doing? I'm good, I just wanted to turn the mute off.

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Good, how are you? I'm doing good. Yeah, I had mute on, I didn't realize.

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Are you home? Yeah, I'm at my parents' house, so this is as close to a home as I have.

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I'm in the room in which it stored all of the things in my closet.

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I don't know, it's good, I'm very happy. I'm actually headed out on the road tomorrow.

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Oh, really? Yes, I'm headed to North Carolina for a conference,

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and then I don't know where I'm going to go from there,

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and then I'm eventually going to end up for two weeks in November in Houston for two other conferences.

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I did not mean to make traveling be all about conferences, but so far it's been a really big factor.

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Are you going to catch Holly? I'm going to try.

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We're going to see if we can connect in Asheville,

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because they're going to be there in Asheville for a little bit of an overlap.

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Well, not in Asheville, they're going to be near Asheville, which is where I'm going to be,

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and so we're going to see if we can have a bit of overlap, so we'll see how that works out.

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Yeah, so how are you feeling? Feeling all right?

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I'm good, really good. I kind of turned a corner last week and was like, oh, I feel better than I did before.

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Oh, I'm glad. Good.

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Yes, much better.

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I was going to say, you're looking like you're feeling better.

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Yeah. Oh, yeah, I looked pretty rough for a couple weeks, I'm sure.

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No, you didn't look rough, you just felt, you just looked like you felt tired, you know,

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and just kind of lack of as much energy.

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Hey, Linda.

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You're in, you've got no sleeves on.

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My goodness, the weather must be real pretty up there.

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It's starting to turn cool where it is here.

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I'm in Indio, California.

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Oh, that's right. I forgot. I forgot you're not in Missouri right now. It's beautiful.

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How's the trip going?

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It was 107 degrees today.

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Oh, my word.

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Does it ever get up to 107 in Missouri?

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Well, we haven't had 107 all year.

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Wow. Oh, my word.

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I'm having as few clothes on as possible.

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It looks gorgeous.

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Oh, my word.

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So pretty.

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Somewhere over there is a mountain.

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There, mountains.

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Let's see.

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Yes, I can.

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Are y'all near any fires?

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I mean, have you noticed that your view is kind of fuzzy from fires, like smoke?

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Hazy.

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Hazy, hazy.

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Hazy, yeah.

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Yeah, it was.

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I didn't get as far as California.

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Yeah, I didn't get as far as California, but in Colorado, they were having fires.

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And so it was the mountains were hazy.

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And I went to Colorado twice.

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And, you know, once from your place.

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When we left y'all, we went to Kansas City for three nights and then Denver for three nights.

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And in Denver, we didn't realize how many mountains we were surrounded by until I left Denver and then came back.

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And when I went back a week later, all of a sudden there were all of these mountains that I hadn't known existed because the haze was gone.

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So, anyway.

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So I'm sorry your view is a little hazy.

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Okay.

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Oh, looks like you're frozen.

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So.

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Oh, there we go.

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Catching a little bit of sound every now and then.

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That's why I was freezing.

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My son is better than my signal outside. Oh, okay. Okay. Are you in a hotel or in someone's home?

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We have condos. Oh, nice.

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Yeah, so I've got three bed condo in California and I go to ocean.

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Oh my goodness. Let's see here.

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I think I'm missing people. Let's see here. Bye.

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Nope. Maybe they're all all in. So apparently, I don't know if I need to fix the settings, but

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I think that zoom has changed everything where now I have to admit everybody from the waiting room

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and I didn't used to have to do that. So I don't know if there's a hopefully there's a hopefully

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it's just a default that came with some kind of an update. And I can go in and fix that. So don't

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so y'all don't have to sit there and wait in the waiting room.

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Anyway. Hey, Laurie, how are you?

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Good. How are you? Good. It's so nice to see you. And I watched your video. Absolutely loved it.

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I don't know if you've got my return video. So I was at dinner. Yeah, I was at dinner. And so I

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didn't get to see it. And my mom took me out to dinner before I leave tomorrow. And so anyway,

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so I just got back and right before I jumped on, I left you a little video. So anyway,

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I was so excited to hear what you had to say. There's nothing like nothing like the Lord

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meeting us. It's huge. It's absolutely huge. I mean, it's such a it's always so touching when,

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you know, our lover, you know, talks to us in the language that we need to that we need to hear him

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in. So it was like a new Yeah, new experience. I don't know. I know. It's wild, isn't it? It's

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wild. Yeah, when the Lord began to, when I began to interact with the Lord and talk to him like

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that, and he would look at me, then it's like, you know, your world changes. You're like, I didn't

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know it can be like this. I didn't know he felt this way about me. I didn't know that he would

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like that. I'm so excited. And hey, April, how are you?

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I can't see you, but I see your lovely picture. I'm assuming that's you and your mom.

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So April and Lori have just joined this week since,

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um, since our last Thursday call. So that's very exciting.

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Well, let's see here. Okay, so does, oh, I don't know why I keep forgetting to do this,

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but I keep forgetting to, um, maybe I can find something I keep forgetting to make sure that I

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come on with, um, with a backup plan. If no one has a question and I can start out with,

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oh, okay. Well, I was talking to a client about such and such earlier this week. Okay. I've got

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something, but, um, uh, talk to my client about this earlier this week. And so, um, just kind of

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get to get the ball rolling, but I always prefer if one of y'all has a question to start us out

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with instead of me having to like pull into my, into my backup bag, something we could talk about.

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Does anyone have any, any questions or anything they wanted to talk about or bring up or anything

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they've been going through, um, with the Lord at all? So otherwise, yeah.

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So I didn't know if you had anything in any of your

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library videos that talked different, sabbaths or doing this rest intensive on a 24 seven basis

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for the rest of our life. Um, I don't, I think it would be a good one. Um, I think that generally

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speaking that, um, well, that God introduces that the principle of rest to us, um, in,

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in a variety of ways. And so there are ways in which it's, it's not like it's concentrated,

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but it's almost like, uh, lack of a better phrase, a rock of remembrance or whatever.

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And that would be kind of like the daily, the daily, uh, not the daily, the, um, well,

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we do have the daily rest, you know, during, um, during the eight hours at night, as well as, um,

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you know, our weekly rest and then the, how the Bible would talk to Israelites about,

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um, letting the land rest. I think it was every 70 years and things like that. So there's

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ways in which he talks about implementing rest into our routine and our schedules,

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particularly though in the old covenant. Um, but I, I believe that generally speaking,

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kind of like in the 60 fold that it's like a, like a jacket or a rock.

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of remembrance, it's something like, okay, so this is what it's like to rest.

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This is the idea that I'm talking about that I'm trying to convey to, you know, the Lord

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saying, you know, I'm trying to convey to my children, but he wants to teach us how

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we are already, once especially we transfer into the new covenant, how it's actually of

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our very essence and it's of our very DNA.

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It's, it's, I mean, it, we have a right to it due to our DNA and the fact that it's actually

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a place we abide in and that we can do everything from.

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We don't have to stop everything in order to have it.

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The interesting thing about the fact that in the old Testament, you had to stop everything

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in order to have it.

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Is it allowed for us to very clearly see the delineation between the only way that we understood

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activity, which was in striving versus rest, that you literally could not do anything on

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the Sabbath.

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And so kind of like the priest going into going into the Holy of Holies, they weren't

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allowed to sweat.

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It showed the very marked delineation between between anything that had to do with strife

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and rest, that nothing of strife could enter rest.

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But as far, I don't think that it's wrong to have a practice of having, you know, following

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the Sabbath, you know, every, every week or anything like that.

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I don't think that it's obviously required anymore, et cetera, but I believe that it's

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just one of those things that it just allows us in very clear ways, kind of like we stop

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and observe festivals, or we stop and observe, and we, we, we're supposed to abide with God

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all day, but we set aside specific times in order to meet with him very intimately where

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we literally aren't doing anything else and we hide in our closet and whatever.

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And yet we're not, not without him the rest of the day.

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I think it's the Sabbath is just kind of like that.

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There might be more to it.

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I'm sure that Dr. O can talk about it, but that at least is the way that I see it can

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related to what we're talking about in rest intensive.

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Did that answer your question?

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Thank you.

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Sure.

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Hey, Alana.

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Oh, there you are, April.

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Hello.

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You didn't have to get on visually, but I always like to see everybody, so it's just

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like, oh, where's April?

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I haven't gotten to see her today.

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So, does anyone have anything else that they have thought of?

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I think I can think of one more thing, but I was going to want to do, I've already talked

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about it and I want to do a live on it anyway, so just anything that maybe that y'all have

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been going through with the Lord or some way in which you were struggling to shift

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into rest this week, or maybe a victory that you've had.

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I for one was struggling with things this week, and I do, like everybody, I do.

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And so, it was very interesting how I had to shift into that.

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I don't always, you know how I recommend that you kind of walk through first just telling

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yourself to just stop, talking to your soul and your body and just telling yourself, stop.

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Whatever it is you're doing, just stop.

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Just let it go.

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And that you don't even have to know what it is that your soul and your body's hanging

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onto in order to tell it to stop, to let go of.

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You just need to tell it, hey, look, whatever it is you're doing, let go of it.

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I mentioned how that doesn't always work, and that sometimes if that doesn't work, well,

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then you move on to another step, and then you move on to, and then eventually you move

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on to choosing.

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You know, you just go through these progressions.

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Well, I was very surprised because the thing that I was struggling, that I was feeling

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restless about, that I was feeling very much not at peace, was an emotional thing.

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It wasn't necessarily an event that was happening or somebody that was in front of me that was

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doing something or hurting me or anything.

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It was something that I was just emotionally struggling with due to my own past experiences

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and my own fears, and I was being triggered.

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And so, they were all coming up.

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And I was very surprised with how deeply rooted that I was.

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I have that I had believed this thing to be in my life that I was actually able to shift

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into rest and let go of things simply by telling myself to stop.

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I was very surprised because which goes to prove that it's not necessarily that our ability

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to stop or I should say that our inability to just tell ourselves to stop and for it

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to work isn't necessarily connected to the intensity of it.

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Because I was really, really holding on to this thing.

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I mean this thing just was greatly affecting me.

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It was something that was very deep.

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Now I do believe that I've had an extreme amount of healing in this area and it was

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in, how would you put it, I don't know how to describe it.

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So I know that where I was going was a deeper level and that I've already overcome so much

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in that one area that this was just a deeper route that was being pulled up and I was dealing

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with it.

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But still, I was very surprised that I was able to actually shift into rest simply by

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telling myself to stop.

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In other words, by coming into my identity and acknowledging my identity and my spirit

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and understanding I'm the king and I'm the Lord that my soul and my body are looking

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for and just like the rest of creation, it's subject to frustration.

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It's terrified.

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It's scared.

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It thinks that it's been just like the accusation that we have against the Lord of I'm in lack,

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I'm not being protected and provided for, I'm on my own, I've been abandoned or whatever,

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that my soul and my body respond to my spirit in the same way.

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So my body believes that it's in lack, that it's not being provided for and taken care

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of.

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So when I acknowledge and I realize that and come into agreement with the fact that my

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identity is in my spirit and my spirit is the king that my soul and that my body need.

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And when that king presents itself, my soul and my body calm down.

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So I just think it was so fascinating to me that something as intense as what it was that

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I was emotionally going through, in other words, the intensity of the restlessness that

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I was experiencing and how deeply rooted that particular issue that I was dealing with is.

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I was just really, really pleasantly surprised at how quickly it responded to my authority

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in coming in and just saying, Hey, look, I'm your king, I'm your Lord.

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And I'm telling you, there's no reason for you to be afraid.

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I'm talking to my soul and my body that way.

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There's no reason for you to be afraid, whatever it is that you are holding on to, where you

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believe that you have to provide for and protect yourself.

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You've been abandoned, that I've abandoned you, it's just not true.

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And I'm here presenting myself and you can calm down and I've calmed down.

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So I was really surprised about that.

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So I was excited because I'm constantly learning.

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As I move into deeper measures, sorry, I have to plug my phone in because it's decided

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that it's running out of juice, even though I tried to charge it up before I got on.

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That I'm still, I'm continuing to learn fascinating things, as I implement in my own life, what

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it is that I teach in the Rest Intensive, because you know that this is how I learn

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this stuff, when I teach in the Rest Intensive.

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Yes, some of the foundational things were I learned from other people, but things like

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about like this stuff, like the practical things of like, you start, you do this and

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you talk to your soul and you talk to your body and all of that, that was stuff that

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the Lord revealed to me about how to shift into rest in my own life because I was so

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miserable and I was, I just felt oppressed and set against, et cetera.

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So anyway, so that was something that I went through this weekend, this week, and maybe

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I think it was day before yesterday, might have been yesterday, might have been yesterday

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and it feels a lot longer ago, but it was either yesterday or the day before yesterday.

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So I was really, really glad about that.

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So that was, that was the victory for me.

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Sorry, I thought someone else came on.

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Do we raise our hands or?

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Oh no, you can just hop on.

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Yeah, I can.

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and figure it out when someone unmutes themselves.

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That's my clue.

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So I was, had been for a few months

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and the day before I was supposed to leave

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for 12 days in California,

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three I got and four I staffed with.

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So it would have been the most impossible time

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for me to leave and go a day to day person.

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Unfeeling, uncaring, abandoning ship

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in the middle of crisis, being staffed already

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was every reason ever

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that I would not come.

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So that was really hard getting on the plane

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to come to California when they were all just diagnosed.

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So you had no idea if anybody in the hospital

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or I convinced myself that I would be better suited

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in a different place and praying,

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which was, so I mean, I have been praying

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and three of them already say they're good,

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but we just found out that the 13 year daughter

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was in the house diagnosed today.

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So, you know, it's an ongoing,

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all the people that were exposed,

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it's an ongoing how many more or less.

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Yeah, I'm sorry about that.

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I'm really sorry about that.

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I'm glad, I'm excited to hear that,

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that you chose to still go ahead and leave

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was that in other words to,

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because there's a measure of rest

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in which you were operating.

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And was that challenging?

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Very, because Martha would always say I had to be there.

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That's right.

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Martha personalities of the company.

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It's like, of course, I'm gonna stay.

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Of course, I'm gonna help out.

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Of course, I'm gonna get the front lines,

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put my situation in front of them

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because everybody else is gonna lead by my example.

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So, but I did offer to give everybody

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time and a half in my absence.

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Anyone who chooses to work with these clients

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that are positive COVID will get paid

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time and a half for every hour that they did help.

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And then I did give bonuses to people

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that were gonna be in charge while I was gone.

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That was huge.

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That's really huge.

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I'm so excited for you, Linda.

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Because yes, and for those of you who don't know,

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so Linda often talks about,

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when she was talking about Martha,

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she was talking about that,

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Mary and Martha in the Bible,

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and the Martha that always feeling like

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there's always something that has to be done,

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that always have something that has to be accomplished.

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And which is wonderful and good.

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But when we're talking about it in relationship

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to feeling, to striving in order to,

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in order and not being in rest,

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then it's a problem.

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And so anyway, so that's what Linda was talking about

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when she was using the Martha.

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And she was saying, oh, Martha would always.

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So I know.

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And that's a thing that women a lot of time deal with,

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especially people like Linda,

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because Linda's very, very driven.

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She built a very, very successful business

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and now has built an additional

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multiple successful businesses.

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And so for her to have all of the temptation

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at the weight of all of this on her shoulders,

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because we can be tempted to take all of that on

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is a very, very, very big deal

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to shift into, to understand how to shift into rest.

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So anyway, that's the reference

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that she was making to Martha.

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I'm so excited for you, Linda, that's huge.

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Because you were talking about operating,

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leading by example.

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And this is the best example to give

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of like actually practicing what you preach.

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All of these guest speakers that you bring in

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and how you actually step out and follow the Lord

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and whatever it is that he reveals and says,

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and that they'll be able to see through your example

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that you embody the fact that God can be trusted.

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That if he says something, it really is true.

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And it really, he's really is enough to sustain them.

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And there's nothing to be afraid

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because you're at their watch,

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you risk everything on his character.

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So that's great.

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That's right.

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Let's see.

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Anybody else?

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Is there anything?

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Well, can I ask you a kind of a bit of a strange, strange thing has come up for me tonight.

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And it's kind of like, you know, I loved your Marco Polo the other day.

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That was really helpful and I'll respond to that separately.

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And what I noticed came up for me today was a struggle around charging people money for

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coaching them.

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I I've been struggling to sell my coaching because I work with Christian women and I

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work with Christian women who are wanting to overcome pain and hurt and like live God's

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vision.

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Right.

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And I have this guilty conscience about asking them for money.

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I want to lower the price so that they will all be able to afford it.

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I want to not charge too much because I don't want to leave anyone out.

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Even though I know people care more about what they pay more money for usually like

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the more value to them when they spend more money.

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I also know people have soul ties around money and it helps to call them into something different

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and but I I don't know how to reconcile this and believe that it's OK as a Christian to

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charge other Christians money where I feel like I should just be giving it away for free

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to anyone who's interested because then I am serving everyone and I don't.

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It's weird.

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Like I've even had these thoughts about when I go up to heaven is God going to be like

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you should not have charged people money for that.

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You should have been doing it as like an offering and service.

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And so I don't know I've had some tears tonight because of it and I just I don't even know.

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I don't know what to do.

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The multiple things I could say about it but I'll start with this.

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And that is the fact that with because people's souls are attached to money and can be greatly

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affected by money and then it lets it's it how how how do I approach this.

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Yes it does let you know how serious they are but more importantly it it doesn't just

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let them know how important it is to them.

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It actually is is a way for them to make their first step towards their own healing because

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you can't heal them.

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So for those of you who don't you don't remember a lot of works with people who have been through

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very severe trauma and are trying to heal and overcome all of those wounds.

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So so one of the issues with people who've been through trauma is a lot of times they

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come at it with a very victimized mentality.

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They have been so worn down over the years either either they were susceptible to it

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anyway or they became susceptible to it.

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For instance someone like me who's an extremely strong person that the world would term is

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very very independent.

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Even I developed a victimized mentality because of how long that I'm that I was in the situations

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that I was in and then it just wore me down.

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The point is that regardless of how someone gets there it can develop it can develop yes

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a victimized mentality but a poverty mindset that gets attributed to multiple areas of

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their life including their relationship to money.

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It'll it'll manifest and express itself there.

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So it so money is a touchy subject when you talk about anything especially when you're

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talking to people that have gone through abuse being taken advantage of by other people and

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etc.

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So just want to catch everybody up on where we are.

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And so when as far as like the money or whatever it allows it allows them to actually make

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the first step towards their healing because they you can't fix that.

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You can't fix them.

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You can't heal them.

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They have to do it and the money is so is such a small step that they have to make in

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comparison with what in themselves they're going to have to face that if they can't get

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past that then they then the livelihood that they're going to be able to overcome and face

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the other aspects of themselves is is less.

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I'm not trying to just to proclaim that for anybody.

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I am just painting this this concept of very broad brushstroke.

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Now yes there are things such as well.

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people have more money than other people.

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And then so money is actually very relative.

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It's $5 to one person could be a drop in the bucket

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while it could be half of somebody else's money

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that they have left.

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So I do understand that it's relative.

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So the way that the Lord had me structure things

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for the rest intensive really surprised me

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because you remember as a turnaround business consultant,

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I used to teach people how to price.

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I didn't used to teach people how to price

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the way I'm pricing.

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The Lord had to teach me this

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because this is not what I've taught.

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And used to teach people how to price things

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at very, very high at very high ticket.

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So that, but what it is that the Lord,

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that the Lord showed me is he showed me,

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actually this has to do about everybody.

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This is all about the other person.

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It, and yes, it's money's relative to them.

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So make it relative to them,

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but put the, what he had me do is he had me require,

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the thing that he had me require of them

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was commitment to change.

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That's really the cost of the program.

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It's not money because people can make,

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can give me one cent.

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I've told people that all the time when they joined us

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that it can be one cent, it doesn't matter.

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But what they understand is required

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is they have to, they understand the seriousness

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of what they're committing themselves to for themselves

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and that they're committing to change.

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According to whatever it is,

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their father reveals to them in their spirit,

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you know, on the journey.

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So that just a bit about how I transitioned

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into the what I'm doing and why.

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I do not believe that everybody needs to do

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what it is that I'm doing.

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In fact, I think that very few people,

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if hardly anybody would necessarily be called

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to do what it is that I'm doing.

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I shocked myself that this is what I'm doing.

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Point is that there's nothing wrong

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with doing it the way that I am

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or doing it the way that I used to do,

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which is where you have set a certain dollar amount

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and you say, if you have, I'm just making something up.

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You set a particular dollar amount and say,

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this is the cost of the program.

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What's important is, and what is going to give you peace

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in your conscience and in your heart,

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is if you take that before the Lord

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and know from the Lord, okay, Lord,

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this is the dollar amount that, you know,

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what's the dollar amount that we wanna go for?

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What is the threshold?

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Because the Lord knows who he wants in your program

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and the Lord knows, you know, the amount that,

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the value threshold that he wants you to,

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what is the word?

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Put in monetary terms.

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So I think that it's just important that,

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for your own peace, that you just,

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that you just make that determination in your heart,

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with your heart, you know, in the Lord.

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Lord, this is what I would like to do.

472
00:33:10.060 --> 00:33:13.340
What is your heart and what would you like me to do?

473
00:33:13.340 --> 00:33:15.740
But there's nothing wrong with money.

474
00:33:15.740 --> 00:33:19.380
Money, and that's kind of my point here.

475
00:33:19.380 --> 00:33:21.580
There's nothing wrong with money.

476
00:33:21.660 --> 00:33:25.180
We have a very unhealthy perspective of money

477
00:33:25.180 --> 00:33:28.580
because we're so used to thinking that it is the thing

478
00:33:28.580 --> 00:33:31.620
that is going to provide our protection and provision.

479
00:33:31.620 --> 00:33:33.180
And if we're taking the very thing

480
00:33:33.180 --> 00:33:34.780
that provides our protection,

481
00:33:34.780 --> 00:33:39.780
that provides for or protects somebody else,

482
00:33:41.500 --> 00:33:45.040
the very means by which their world hinges,

483
00:33:45.040 --> 00:33:47.260
that we're now abusing them.

484
00:33:47.260 --> 00:33:50.460
It's because we have an unhealthy perspective of money.

485
00:33:50.460 --> 00:33:55.300
We think that that money is somebody else's savior.

486
00:33:55.300 --> 00:33:57.900
And that if we're using money in order to help them,

487
00:33:57.900 --> 00:33:59.700
we're taking away their savior.

488
00:33:59.700 --> 00:34:04.700
And so therefore it puts us in as part of the system

489
00:34:05.100 --> 00:34:06.460
that is abusing them.

490
00:34:06.460 --> 00:34:10.100
So no wonder we feel bad about charging people to help them.

491
00:34:10.100 --> 00:34:12.580
But that's actually not accurate.

492
00:34:12.580 --> 00:34:17.580
There's, God can provide the means for anybody

493
00:34:18.580 --> 00:34:20.800
to be able to join your program.

494
00:34:21.739 --> 00:34:24.739
You just determine with the Lord

495
00:34:24.739 --> 00:34:26.739
what that value should be.

496
00:34:26.739 --> 00:34:31.739
And he will use that value to help other people

497
00:34:32.699 --> 00:34:35.340
filter themselves out as to whether or not

498
00:34:35.340 --> 00:34:37.760
yours is the program they're going to join.

499
00:34:38.659 --> 00:34:41.699
It's almost a means by which people can.

500
00:34:42.540 --> 00:34:44.699
There's not a word, that filter isn't the word

501
00:34:44.699 --> 00:34:45.820
that I usually use for that.

502
00:34:45.820 --> 00:34:46.659
What's that word?

503
00:34:47.980 --> 00:34:51.800
But anyway, they determine,

504
00:34:53.020 --> 00:34:55.060
it puts the ball in their court

505
00:34:55.060 --> 00:34:57.900
as to whether or not they want to join your program.

506
00:34:57.900 --> 00:34:59.900
It is the value of that dollar.

507
00:35:00.000 --> 00:35:03.160
out to them.

508
00:35:03.160 --> 00:35:08.400
And so, but you always leave the decision up to them.

509
00:35:08.400 --> 00:35:10.320
You're not coercing anybody.

510
00:35:10.320 --> 00:35:16.640
You're not trying to make anybody spend more money than they feel that they can.

511
00:35:16.640 --> 00:35:20.800
You just put it out there and you let them make the determination.

512
00:35:20.800 --> 00:35:22.200
Basically what's very, very important.

513
00:35:22.200 --> 00:35:26.800
And I talked about this on one of the videos, I don't remember which one, that it's important

514
00:35:26.800 --> 00:35:32.760
when selling a customer or a client on any kind of a service is to empower the other

515
00:35:32.760 --> 00:35:36.160
person to be able to make their own decision.

516
00:35:36.160 --> 00:35:41.200
Most people feel that they're being disempowered by whoever it is that's trying to sell them

517
00:35:41.200 --> 00:35:46.320
on something, which is why nobody, none of us trusts somebody who's trying to sell us

518
00:35:46.320 --> 00:35:47.320
on something.

519
00:35:47.320 --> 00:35:50.200
We feel that we're trying to be disempowered.

520
00:35:50.200 --> 00:35:55.320
And so to stand out and to be something different, it's very important that we actually empower

521
00:35:55.320 --> 00:36:01.760
someone to kind of clear the cobwebs and the fog from their own line so that they

522
00:36:01.760 --> 00:36:04.080
know what's actually important to them.

523
00:36:04.080 --> 00:36:05.800
And it may not be your program.

524
00:36:05.800 --> 00:36:10.120
It may be something else, but at least they walk away knowing that whatever decision that

525
00:36:10.120 --> 00:36:12.600
they made was the right one for them.

526
00:36:12.600 --> 00:36:16.520
I think that that's very, very, very important for anybody who's trying to sell someone on

527
00:36:16.520 --> 00:36:21.800
an idea or on a service or on a product or whatever, is to always empower them to make

528
00:36:21.800 --> 00:36:22.800
the right decision.

529
00:36:22.800 --> 00:36:28.400
Then you know that regardless of whether they walk away because, quote unquote, the money

530
00:36:28.400 --> 00:36:34.000
was too much or they joined you regardless of how much money that it cost them and that

531
00:36:34.000 --> 00:36:37.520
it might've cost them like half their savings, I don't know.

532
00:36:37.520 --> 00:36:41.480
You can walk away with a clear conscience because you empowered them to make their own

533
00:36:41.480 --> 00:36:46.720
decision of what's important in their life, according to their value system, as opposed

534
00:36:46.720 --> 00:36:53.320
to trying to get them, trying to logically convince them to change their value system

535
00:36:53.320 --> 00:36:54.320
to yours.

536
00:36:54.320 --> 00:36:55.320
So how do you...

537
00:36:55.320 --> 00:36:58.320
Yeah, no, it does.

538
00:36:58.320 --> 00:36:59.320
And I appreciate that.

539
00:36:59.320 --> 00:37:00.960
And how do you empower them then?

540
00:37:00.960 --> 00:37:02.400
How do you...

541
00:37:02.400 --> 00:37:03.920
And so that's my first question.

542
00:37:03.920 --> 00:37:04.920
How do you empower them?

543
00:37:04.920 --> 00:37:10.640
My second question is, how do you help them see that they are looking at money as their

544
00:37:10.640 --> 00:37:16.360
protection and their provision, or do you even help them see that in the first place?

545
00:37:16.360 --> 00:37:18.240
I don't help them see.

546
00:37:18.240 --> 00:37:21.640
I don't actually walk anybody through that.

547
00:37:21.640 --> 00:37:24.640
How do I do this?

548
00:37:24.640 --> 00:37:29.160
It's been a while since I've talked about this.

549
00:37:29.160 --> 00:37:33.440
For you, let's see.

550
00:37:33.440 --> 00:37:34.880
I have a video on this.

551
00:37:34.880 --> 00:37:36.680
I don't remember which one.

552
00:37:36.680 --> 00:37:37.680
It might be attract...

553
00:37:37.680 --> 00:37:38.680
Is it attracting clients?

554
00:37:38.680 --> 00:37:41.680
No, I don't think it's attracting clients.

555
00:37:41.680 --> 00:37:42.680
Oh, shoot.

556
00:37:42.680 --> 00:37:43.680
I don't remember which one it is.

557
00:37:43.680 --> 00:37:49.800
It's in one of the last six, I think, that says the word business in front of each one

558
00:37:49.800 --> 00:37:53.360
of them in there.

559
00:37:53.360 --> 00:37:57.960
And so when you're empowering somebody, the reason that it's hard for me to describe this

560
00:37:57.960 --> 00:38:01.240
is it's a conversation that you're having with them.

561
00:38:01.240 --> 00:38:09.400
You ask them questions and basically take their answers and sometimes rephrase their

562
00:38:09.400 --> 00:38:17.040
answers back to them and to help them figure out what it is that they believe, what it

563
00:38:17.040 --> 00:38:21.360
is that they want, and what it is that they value, and therefore what decision they want

564
00:38:21.360 --> 00:38:22.360
to make.

565
00:38:22.360 --> 00:38:27.800
So basically you're walking them through how to make their own decision instead of trying

566
00:38:27.800 --> 00:38:36.720
to convince, instead of trying to help, instead of trying to convince them of a particular

567
00:38:36.720 --> 00:38:42.800
logic or a particular perspective or a particular way of thinking, is you're kind of walking

568
00:38:42.800 --> 00:38:48.280
them through, oh, okay, so that's such and such is your answer.

569
00:38:48.280 --> 00:38:54.200
You said da, da, da, da, da, so why do you think that that is?

570
00:38:54.200 --> 00:38:59.880
Open-ended questions are really big because you find that people, not yes and no, and

571
00:38:59.880 --> 00:39:04.400
not ones that you can just, that the person can only answer yes or no on, but actually

572
00:39:04.400 --> 00:39:11.040
open-ended ones like, and so, oh, I see, so why do you think that is, or whatever,

573
00:39:11.040 --> 00:39:18.160
because then it gets people to, it kind of like opens the door and they just start talking.

574
00:39:18.160 --> 00:39:23.080
And not only do, and because all of the sudden they're forced to have to articulate things

575
00:39:23.080 --> 00:39:28.080
in their subconscious, that what it is that they really want and how it is that they really

576
00:39:28.080 --> 00:39:33.840
think and what it is that's really important does start to come up.

577
00:39:33.840 --> 00:39:39.920
It's one of those things where it's hard for me to describe, but as you, as you begin

578
00:39:39.920 --> 00:39:46.400
to do it and you begin to really, truly care about the person and not about the outcome,

579
00:39:46.400 --> 00:39:49.560
that's another thing that's very important, is whenever you talk to somebody, and I do

580
00:39:49.560 --> 00:39:56.480
the same thing, whenever you talk to somebody, a potential client, you don't ever think about

581
00:39:56.480 --> 00:39:57.480
the outcome.

582
00:39:57.480 --> 00:40:00.000
Don't ever think about, oh, I hope this person does.

583
00:40:00.000 --> 00:40:03.020
joins or what would happen if or whatever,

584
00:40:03.020 --> 00:40:04.780
completely let go of the outcome,

585
00:40:04.780 --> 00:40:06.480
completely let go of the salt.

586
00:40:06.480 --> 00:40:09.480
Remember, it's in God's hands and he's gonna do it.

587
00:40:09.480 --> 00:40:13.260
So just enjoy your time with them.

588
00:40:13.260 --> 00:40:16.260
And one of the reasons why that's important

589
00:40:16.260 --> 00:40:18.420
is it gets you focusing on them.

590
00:40:18.420 --> 00:40:20.500
And as you get to focus on them,

591
00:40:20.500 --> 00:40:24.800
it's a lot easier to think of the types of questions

592
00:40:24.800 --> 00:40:27.660
to ask them, especially open-ended questions,

593
00:40:27.660 --> 00:40:29.700
because you're trying to get to know them

594
00:40:29.700 --> 00:40:33.180
and you're trying to enable and create an environment

595
00:40:33.180 --> 00:40:36.180
that empowers them to answer their own questions.

596
00:40:36.180 --> 00:40:38.900
So you don't answer questions for them or even suggest.

597
00:40:38.900 --> 00:40:42.980
So do you think that it could be because,

598
00:40:42.980 --> 00:40:44.740
that you know, this, that and the other or whatever,

599
00:40:44.740 --> 00:40:46.640
because that's leading the witness.

600
00:40:47.920 --> 00:40:52.260
Don't add, I highly recommend not asking,

601
00:40:52.260 --> 00:40:54.380
you know, leading the witness questions.

602
00:40:54.380 --> 00:40:59.380
But because again, that's trying to logically

603
00:40:59.860 --> 00:41:04.660
convince their subconscious of a different perspective.

604
00:41:04.660 --> 00:41:06.620
Oh, also another big, huge thing.

605
00:41:06.620 --> 00:41:10.040
When someone feels valued, when someone feels listened to,

606
00:41:10.040 --> 00:41:13.940
they feel again more, that empowers somebody.

607
00:41:13.940 --> 00:41:17.300
Empowers them to really think about what it is

608
00:41:17.300 --> 00:41:19.220
that they want, because they now feel

609
00:41:19.220 --> 00:41:22.100
that they're in a safe place to make their own decision.

610
00:41:22.100 --> 00:41:23.660
If you show that you trust

611
00:41:23.660 --> 00:41:25.040
that they can make their own decision,

612
00:41:25.040 --> 00:41:29.500
you show that you believe that they're wise enough,

613
00:41:30.260 --> 00:41:31.860
have enough knowledge, have enough wisdom

614
00:41:31.860 --> 00:41:33.560
to be able to make their own decision.

615
00:41:33.560 --> 00:41:35.900
They will naturally feel empowered to do so

616
00:41:35.900 --> 00:41:37.340
and they'll naturally come to discover

617
00:41:37.340 --> 00:41:39.340
what it is that they really want, whatever.

618
00:41:39.340 --> 00:41:41.460
So empowering someone to make their own decision

619
00:41:41.460 --> 00:41:43.700
is providing a supportive environment

620
00:41:43.700 --> 00:41:45.700
for who it is that they are

621
00:41:45.700 --> 00:41:48.340
and it'll eventually start coming out.

622
00:41:48.340 --> 00:41:51.500
So you're empowering them as a person, as an individual,

623
00:41:51.500 --> 00:41:54.780
seeing them as their identity in Christ,

624
00:41:54.780 --> 00:41:59.340
not who it is that they think that they are

625
00:42:00.180 --> 00:42:01.420
or all the particulars of their past

626
00:42:01.420 --> 00:42:03.780
that have brought them to where it is that they are,

627
00:42:03.780 --> 00:42:05.180
because that doesn't matter.

628
00:42:05.180 --> 00:42:08.940
Everybody has their own experience.

629
00:42:08.940 --> 00:42:10.680
Everyone has their own unique events

630
00:42:10.680 --> 00:42:13.040
that have brought them to this point.

631
00:42:13.040 --> 00:42:14.980
We all deal with the same spiritual roots

632
00:42:14.980 --> 00:42:16.220
and the same spiritual problems.

633
00:42:16.220 --> 00:42:18.140
How they evidence themselves and manifest

634
00:42:18.140 --> 00:42:21.340
all looks different and that's confused us

635
00:42:21.340 --> 00:42:23.400
into thinking that we all deal with different things

636
00:42:23.400 --> 00:42:24.780
and that's not true.

637
00:42:24.780 --> 00:42:26.540
We deal with different manifestations

638
00:42:26.540 --> 00:42:28.900
at the exact same roots.

639
00:42:29.420 --> 00:42:30.260
And so if we don't get caught up

640
00:42:30.260 --> 00:42:31.820
in all the particulars and nitty gritties

641
00:42:31.820 --> 00:42:33.460
and the ugliness and the perverseness

642
00:42:33.460 --> 00:42:35.220
of what it is that they've had to experience

643
00:42:35.220 --> 00:42:37.580
and go through, but we focus on who it is

644
00:42:37.580 --> 00:42:40.060
that they are in Christ and we talk to that person,

645
00:42:40.060 --> 00:42:41.540
they'll like talking to you,

646
00:42:41.540 --> 00:42:43.100
they'll feel better about themselves,

647
00:42:43.100 --> 00:42:45.060
they'll feel empowered to make a decision

648
00:42:45.060 --> 00:42:47.060
and they'll feel like what it is that you have,

649
00:42:47.060 --> 00:42:49.000
that not only that conversation,

650
00:42:49.000 --> 00:42:52.400
but what it is that you must have to offer is valuable.

651
00:42:52.400 --> 00:42:54.140
And then they get to choose whether or not

652
00:42:54.140 --> 00:42:57.640
it's valuable enough for them to actually make a move

653
00:42:57.840 --> 00:43:02.280
that as a first step of what they're willing to do

654
00:43:02.280 --> 00:43:05.800
for themselves to change their own lives

655
00:43:05.800 --> 00:43:08.040
because that's going to take a lot of work

656
00:43:08.040 --> 00:43:09.280
and they're going to feel that they can

657
00:43:09.280 --> 00:43:11.800
if they have a supportive environment

658
00:43:11.800 --> 00:43:14.480
based off the fact that you made them feel empowered

659
00:43:14.480 --> 00:43:16.680
by seeing who it is that they really are

660
00:43:16.680 --> 00:43:18.180
talking to that person.

661
00:43:18.180 --> 00:43:19.600
Because someone who's been through trauma

662
00:43:19.600 --> 00:43:21.280
has been disempowered.

663
00:43:23.680 --> 00:43:24.960
I know I just gave you a lot there.

664
00:43:24.960 --> 00:43:26.520
Does that make sense?

665
00:43:26.640 --> 00:43:27.560
Yeah, totally.

666
00:43:27.560 --> 00:43:28.920
No, it does for sure.

667
00:43:28.920 --> 00:43:30.520
I am.

668
00:43:30.520 --> 00:43:32.160
Yeah, that helped a lot for sure.

669
00:43:32.160 --> 00:43:35.920
I just, I think I need to

670
00:43:35.920 --> 00:43:37.900
just keep kind of working through it in my spirit

671
00:43:37.900 --> 00:43:42.900
and ask God, you know, whenever I feel a number's right,

672
00:43:43.520 --> 00:43:45.320
it's really not enough.

673
00:43:45.320 --> 00:43:46.600
Like, and I know it's not enough

674
00:43:46.600 --> 00:43:48.460
because the value is way higher.

675
00:43:48.460 --> 00:43:52.440
So it's almost like somebody sells you a trip,

676
00:43:52.440 --> 00:43:57.020
you know, a cruise to the Caribbean for like 100 bucks.

677
00:43:57.020 --> 00:44:00.000
Like, it's just, that's where I'm at right now.

678
00:44:00.000 --> 00:44:03.220
I'm charging way less than I should be

679
00:44:03.220 --> 00:44:06.480
because I feel guilty taking the money.

680
00:44:06.480 --> 00:44:09.480
So I just want to be like you and be like,

681
00:44:09.480 --> 00:44:12.120
pay whatever you can, but then at the same time,

682
00:44:12.120 --> 00:44:16.880
I've got, you know, things that I need to have money for too

683
00:44:16.880 --> 00:44:19.600
to support and to pay for a house

684
00:44:19.600 --> 00:44:21.760
and family and all that stuff.

685
00:44:21.760 --> 00:44:26.480
So I just want to have the right number.

686
00:44:26.480 --> 00:44:29.160
And I guess I just get to talk to God

687
00:44:29.160 --> 00:44:34.040
and ask him more about how I can not feel guilty

688
00:44:34.040 --> 00:44:39.040
about actually asking people for money.

689
00:44:42.000 --> 00:44:42.820
Yeah.

690
00:44:42.820 --> 00:44:44.600
Yeah, yeah, correct.

691
00:44:44.600 --> 00:44:48.080
So again, the money has nothing whatsoever

692
00:44:48.080 --> 00:44:50.360
to do with the transformation.

693
00:44:50.360 --> 00:44:52.440
And it honestly has nothing whatsoever to do

694
00:44:52.440 --> 00:44:54.920
with what it is that you're offering.

695
00:44:54.920 --> 00:44:59.920
It's just, it's a transaction of how serious that they are.

696
00:45:00.000 --> 00:45:03.800
heart and the very first step that they need to make on their own healing journey.

697
00:45:03.800 --> 00:45:06.960
That is all that it is.

698
00:45:06.960 --> 00:45:11.800
And so it needs to be completely disassociated from you because it is completely disassociated

699
00:45:11.800 --> 00:45:12.800
from you.

700
00:45:12.800 --> 00:45:14.240
It's completely disassociated from you.

701
00:45:14.240 --> 00:45:19.680
It's disassociated from your services because your services are from your heart and that's

702
00:45:19.680 --> 00:45:21.960
what it is that they're gaining as well.

703
00:45:21.960 --> 00:45:27.640
They're gaining healing and they're able to be ministered to, et cetera.

704
00:45:27.640 --> 00:45:37.560
So the money has nothing whatsoever to do with the services rendered, with their healing,

705
00:45:37.560 --> 00:45:38.560
et cetera.

706
00:45:38.560 --> 00:45:45.360
It is a way in which they are letting themselves, not just letting themselves know how serious

707
00:45:45.360 --> 00:45:51.840
that they are, but actually literally making the first big step for their soul towards

708
00:45:51.840 --> 00:45:56.520
healing because there's other steps that they're going to have to take towards their own healing.

709
00:45:56.520 --> 00:45:58.160
This is the first one.

710
00:45:58.160 --> 00:46:02.960
So you're offering them the opportunity to take the first step towards healing.

711
00:46:02.960 --> 00:46:03.960
It's all about them.

712
00:46:03.960 --> 00:46:05.400
That money is not about you.

713
00:46:05.400 --> 00:46:10.160
Your God provides for you and protects you and takes care of everything it is that you

714
00:46:10.160 --> 00:46:11.160
need.

715
00:46:11.160 --> 00:46:19.520
The money is all about them and it's empowering them to have an opportunity to take their

716
00:46:19.520 --> 00:46:20.960
own step towards healing.

717
00:46:20.960 --> 00:46:24.840
It's extremely powerful thing that you're offering them has nothing whatsoever to do

718
00:46:24.840 --> 00:46:26.480
with you.

719
00:46:26.480 --> 00:46:34.920
So them choosing to pay the money or not pay the money is strictly based off of their season

720
00:46:34.920 --> 00:46:39.560
in life and whether or not they feel that they have, that they're at a place that they

721
00:46:39.560 --> 00:46:50.320
can do the hard, I don't want to say the hard work, but do the hard things in order to heal.

722
00:46:50.320 --> 00:46:52.760
And I totally agree with you on all of that.

723
00:46:52.760 --> 00:46:58.280
And what about people who just, like I tend to attract people who are on disability or

724
00:46:58.280 --> 00:47:02.280
SSI or whatever it's called.

725
00:47:02.280 --> 00:47:06.000
And so they don't, they bring in like 900 a month or something.

726
00:47:06.000 --> 00:47:11.880
So that's, that's a problem I run into because they really don't have extra money.

727
00:47:11.880 --> 00:47:17.160
And that's where it's tricky because it's like, okay, do I just say, you know what,

728
00:47:17.160 --> 00:47:20.640
I appreciate that you don't feel like you have the money right now.

729
00:47:20.640 --> 00:47:22.000
I will pray for you.

730
00:47:22.000 --> 00:47:24.200
I will, I can recommend some books.

731
00:47:24.200 --> 00:47:29.160
Is that where you go from there and just be okay with that?

732
00:47:29.160 --> 00:47:29.680
Yeah.

733
00:47:29.680 --> 00:47:37.280
I mean, if, again, you're, this is, this is a really old churchy cliche, but you're not

734
00:47:37.280 --> 00:47:39.640
called to everybody, so to speak.

735
00:47:39.640 --> 00:47:44.040
Not everybody is, is your, has been given to you.

736
00:47:44.040 --> 00:47:47.720
Remember that Jesus talks about, you know, I only take those that the Lord has given,

737
00:47:47.720 --> 00:47:50.240
that, you know, the father has given to me.

738
00:47:50.320 --> 00:47:54.640
And so not going into all that verse and what all that means, just using that one, you know,

739
00:47:54.640 --> 00:48:00.480
just really quickly, you know, as a, as a general principle of what we're talking about,

740
00:48:00.480 --> 00:48:05.520
that God has specific people that he, that he intends for you to reach.

741
00:48:05.520 --> 00:48:08.960
And is he calling you to them or not?

742
00:48:08.960 --> 00:48:11.680
And you can ask the Lord, Lord, how will I know?

743
00:48:11.680 --> 00:48:13.480
Is it the money threshold?

744
00:48:13.480 --> 00:48:17.400
And that's how I'll know which ones or, or do I have the money?

745
00:48:17.400 --> 00:48:20.600
But then you're going to be talking to me very specifically about certain people, because

746
00:48:20.600 --> 00:48:24.440
it's always important to keep our heart and communication open with the Lord.

747
00:48:24.440 --> 00:48:28.880
Because we never know when he might throw in a quote, unquote, exception, you know,

748
00:48:28.880 --> 00:48:32.320
when he might suddenly talk to us and he'd be like, okay, yeah, but this one, this one

749
00:48:32.320 --> 00:48:33.560
I want you to take or whatever.

750
00:48:33.560 --> 00:48:36.520
Well, then we should be open to be able to hearing him for that.

751
00:48:36.520 --> 00:48:43.400
But just, just because someone's in hell is, needs something doesn't mean that we have

752
00:48:43.400 --> 00:48:48.360
to, that doesn't mean that they've been given to us.

753
00:48:48.360 --> 00:48:54.400
And the Lord knows why, you know, could be that they're not ready and, and they just

754
00:48:54.400 --> 00:49:00.880
want, they just want help and, but you may not be the help that God has in, intends for

755
00:49:00.880 --> 00:49:01.880
them.

756
00:49:01.880 --> 00:49:10.920
So you're not, everybody's, everybody is not your responsibility and you're not carrying

757
00:49:10.920 --> 00:49:11.920
the world by yourself.

758
00:49:11.920 --> 00:49:17.800
And so it's important to get peace between you and the Lord about how to know that, because

759
00:49:17.800 --> 00:49:24.120
otherwise you'll just be, you'll just be chased by restlessness and by condemnation and by

760
00:49:24.120 --> 00:49:28.840
shame and of like, Lord, should I be taking on all of these people?

761
00:49:28.840 --> 00:49:30.880
Some people are called to all of that.

762
00:49:30.880 --> 00:49:31.880
That's great.

763
00:49:31.880 --> 00:49:37.160
If you are called to have a low ticket program, go for it.

764
00:49:37.160 --> 00:49:43.400
If you're called to offer it to people for one cent, shockingly, then go for it.

765
00:49:43.400 --> 00:49:49.080
If you are called for a high ticket, $4,000 package, which is what I used to sell, then

766
00:49:49.080 --> 00:49:50.080
go for it.

767
00:49:50.080 --> 00:49:56.040
You know, but, but come to peace between you and the Lord, because otherwise it'll just

768
00:49:56.040 --> 00:50:00.000
eat you up because then you're, you're, you're, you're at not at peace because you're wondering.

769
00:50:00.000 --> 00:50:05.000
what will please your father, but present shift into rest,

770
00:50:05.360 --> 00:50:07.000
shift into rest.

771
00:50:07.000 --> 00:50:10.480
And then from that place where you're no longer feel like

772
00:50:10.480 --> 00:50:12.560
you're abandoned and that you're in lack

773
00:50:12.560 --> 00:50:14.480
and that you've got to protect and provide yourself

774
00:50:14.480 --> 00:50:16.840
and figure out how, what you need to do

775
00:50:16.840 --> 00:50:19.120
in order to make the Lord pleased with you,

776
00:50:19.120 --> 00:50:22.120
that he will make your business successful, et cetera.

777
00:50:22.120 --> 00:50:24.200
Let go of all of that shift into rest

778
00:50:24.200 --> 00:50:25.160
and from that place of rest,

779
00:50:25.160 --> 00:50:28.400
where you no longer are worried that,

780
00:50:28.400 --> 00:50:30.440
where you're no longer believing

781
00:50:30.440 --> 00:50:32.120
that you're unprotected or unprovided for,

782
00:50:32.120 --> 00:50:36.720
you believe, oh my word, God's completely got me,

783
00:50:36.720 --> 00:50:38.960
I'm completely provided for and protected

784
00:50:38.960 --> 00:50:40.680
and I'm loved and all of that,

785
00:50:40.680 --> 00:50:42.360
and I choose that because he's,

786
00:50:42.360 --> 00:50:43.760
even if I don't believe it,

787
00:50:43.760 --> 00:50:46.000
I choose it because he says so.

788
00:50:46.000 --> 00:50:47.800
And then you shift it into rest

789
00:50:47.800 --> 00:50:49.640
and then from that vantage point,

790
00:50:49.640 --> 00:50:53.440
you can more clearly see because you've removed that veil

791
00:50:53.440 --> 00:50:56.240
from your heart of fear, you've removed that fear from you,

792
00:50:56.280 --> 00:50:59.880
you can now more clearly see what it is you really want,

793
00:50:59.880 --> 00:51:01.760
what's really on your heart,

794
00:51:01.760 --> 00:51:04.080
where your spirit is really coming alive,

795
00:51:04.080 --> 00:51:05.280
like what dollar amount

796
00:51:05.280 --> 00:51:10.000
or how to structure your pricing.

797
00:51:10.000 --> 00:51:11.880
And then you can more clearly see

798
00:51:11.880 --> 00:51:13.840
because you're not shrouded in fear,

799
00:51:13.840 --> 00:51:16.600
you can more clearly and objectively see

800
00:51:16.600 --> 00:51:18.840
and sense what the Father's heart is

801
00:51:18.840 --> 00:51:21.000
and then make a decision from that perspective

802
00:51:21.000 --> 00:51:23.920
because you need peace between you and your Father.

803
00:51:23.920 --> 00:51:25.240
That's what's going on here,

804
00:51:25.240 --> 00:51:28.440
is you feel that the Lord is holding you responsible.

805
00:51:28.440 --> 00:51:30.840
And so if you haven't heard for all of these people,

806
00:51:30.840 --> 00:51:34.560
so you need to get a clear answer between you and the Father

807
00:51:34.560 --> 00:51:36.440
about what it is you're doing

808
00:51:36.440 --> 00:51:38.960
and who it is that he's calling you to,

809
00:51:38.960 --> 00:51:40.960
and that'll give you peace

810
00:51:40.960 --> 00:51:45.200
because God has a love and a heart for all of those people,

811
00:51:45.200 --> 00:51:48.120
all the people you take on and all the people you don't,

812
00:51:48.120 --> 00:51:49.960
but they belong to the Lord,

813
00:51:49.960 --> 00:51:52.880
they don't belong necessarily to you,

814
00:51:52.880 --> 00:51:55.080
they do in a way, but you know what I'm saying.

815
00:51:55.920 --> 00:51:58.320
And so you just need peace between you and your Father.

816
00:51:58.320 --> 00:51:59.160
For sure.

817
00:52:00.120 --> 00:52:01.840
I think April had her hand up.

818
00:52:01.840 --> 00:52:03.880
Did you have your hand up, April?

819
00:52:03.880 --> 00:52:06.480
Yeah, I think just to support you

820
00:52:06.480 --> 00:52:09.640
and I feel like I really appreciate that perspective.

821
00:52:09.640 --> 00:52:14.640
So circling back to what Alana was saying,

822
00:52:14.680 --> 00:52:17.400
if she, whatever she decides her price is

823
00:52:17.400 --> 00:52:20.120
and then what's the language you can use

824
00:52:20.120 --> 00:52:23.280
so that you are empowering your client,

825
00:52:23.280 --> 00:52:24.680
like going back to what you said

826
00:52:25.320 --> 00:52:28.480
so that I, the, you know, whatever I'm selling,

827
00:52:28.480 --> 00:52:30.480
whatever Alana is selling,

828
00:52:30.480 --> 00:52:31.840
I can say this is what it is,

829
00:52:31.840 --> 00:52:36.480
but not to, like, let's use that example

830
00:52:36.480 --> 00:52:38.920
of someone who only makes $900 a month.

831
00:52:39.920 --> 00:52:42.600
Like, I know my heart is,

832
00:52:42.600 --> 00:52:46.040
I hear the victim story or I can't afford,

833
00:52:46.040 --> 00:52:48.760
and I'm like, oh, fine, I'll just give it to you for free.

834
00:52:49.680 --> 00:52:53.560
So what kind of language do you use

835
00:52:53.560 --> 00:52:57.240
to empower them and yourself in that moment to say,

836
00:52:57.240 --> 00:52:58.080
what do you say?

837
00:52:58.080 --> 00:53:01.760
That's the piece that I felt like, you know,

838
00:53:01.760 --> 00:53:03.960
Alana's like, I can tell you to read this book

839
00:53:03.960 --> 00:53:06.480
and I'll pray for you and good luck.

840
00:53:08.240 --> 00:53:12.120
Yeah, so it's empowering them to make their own decision

841
00:53:12.120 --> 00:53:14.960
as opposed to not coming up with solutions for them

842
00:53:14.960 --> 00:53:16.040
and giving them solutions of,

843
00:53:16.040 --> 00:53:18.440
hey, well, you could do this and you could do that.

844
00:53:18.440 --> 00:53:20.760
Yes, that is empowering, so there's nothing wrong with that.

845
00:53:20.760 --> 00:53:22.240
So that is really good.

846
00:53:22.240 --> 00:53:27.240
But empowering, talking about, you know,

847
00:53:27.240 --> 00:53:30.080
helping them, like, figure out what it is that they want

848
00:53:30.080 --> 00:53:31.800
by asking very open-ended questions.

849
00:53:31.800 --> 00:53:35.080
Like, I don't know, so what have you,

850
00:53:35.080 --> 00:53:36.680
what have you tried before?

851
00:53:36.680 --> 00:53:39.600
What interests you?

852
00:53:39.600 --> 00:53:42.920
What things have helped you stay with something long-term?

853
00:53:42.920 --> 00:53:43.760
Where do you see yourself?

854
00:53:43.760 --> 00:53:45.280
I don't know, whatever.

855
00:53:45.280 --> 00:53:48.440
In other words, getting them to really,

856
00:53:49.560 --> 00:53:52.080
letting them know by your questions

857
00:53:52.920 --> 00:53:54.720
that who it is that they are

858
00:53:54.720 --> 00:53:57.440
and what it is that they want is important

859
00:53:57.440 --> 00:53:58.840
and that it's valuable.

860
00:53:58.840 --> 00:54:02.440
That's empowering someone and then also empowering them,

861
00:54:02.440 --> 00:54:04.360
like, in how they're making their decisions.

862
00:54:04.360 --> 00:54:07.000
So I'm trying to think,

863
00:54:07.000 --> 00:54:09.280
I feel like I'm kind of like coming at this,

864
00:54:11.720 --> 00:54:15.600
that, I don't know, it feels like a little bit like a,

865
00:54:18.240 --> 00:54:20.320
I don't know, I'm boxing in the shadows here,

866
00:54:20.360 --> 00:54:22.120
but to try to come up with it.

867
00:54:22.120 --> 00:54:26.480
I have a, I have a question, Ashley.

868
00:54:26.480 --> 00:54:27.880
Would you be open to this?

869
00:54:27.880 --> 00:54:31.400
Would you be open to hopping on a call

870
00:54:31.400 --> 00:54:35.080
and having me be the client who's in victim mode

871
00:54:35.080 --> 00:54:40.080
and you be the me and, like, helping me understand

872
00:54:41.000 --> 00:54:42.160
how you would do it?

873
00:54:42.160 --> 00:54:44.360
Would it help you or help me to be, like,

874
00:54:44.360 --> 00:54:46.720
in role a little bit so we could actually, like,

875
00:54:46.720 --> 00:54:47.560
play it out?

876
00:54:47.560 --> 00:54:48.960
Would that be possible?

877
00:54:48.960 --> 00:54:50.720
Possibly, possibly, yeah.

878
00:54:52.320 --> 00:54:55.640
Yeah, maybe we could record it and play it for a bit.

879
00:54:55.640 --> 00:54:56.480
Yeah, Linda?

880
00:54:58.760 --> 00:55:00.080
The one thing that I.

881
00:55:00.000 --> 00:55:08.560
did when I was with people is I would give option ordering and sometimes it wasn't anything that I

882
00:55:08.560 --> 00:55:17.520
really needed from somebody at that point but just take them by. So I had one where I had I

883
00:55:18.080 --> 00:55:28.080
had them edit my book, give me input, run reviews so they were actually doing something for me

884
00:55:28.880 --> 00:55:34.240
in exchange for what I was doing for them. So if there's anything you can see

885
00:55:35.200 --> 00:55:42.640
that they can offer you still gives them a connection and it puts a value that they're

886
00:55:42.640 --> 00:55:50.560
giving x amount of their time per week and it's for you giving them your time per week.

887
00:55:51.520 --> 00:55:57.680
Yeah yeah yeah there's there's that there's always that as as well you know and just the

888
00:55:57.680 --> 00:56:05.040
the um the exchange you know so yeah yeah yeah no I like that and yeah I mean if if you want

889
00:56:05.040 --> 00:56:09.440
like if we do do that call like I'm super open to recording it and having other people

890
00:56:10.400 --> 00:56:14.480
listen to it if you think it'll support them I'm totally fine with that so.

891
00:56:15.440 --> 00:56:19.680
Okay all right well good I'm sorry that I can't come up with stuff it has been a very long time

892
00:56:19.680 --> 00:56:28.240
since I've I've had to I've had to articulate it um uh so anyway I mean because it used to

893
00:56:28.240 --> 00:56:33.440
just roll right off but it's been a while since I've accessed that folder I don't know I just

894
00:56:33.440 --> 00:56:39.600
because sometimes I just I just do it now and and so it's been a while since I've had to explain

895
00:56:39.600 --> 00:56:45.840
how it is that I do it but the majority of it is I just see someone the way that that the way that

896
00:56:45.840 --> 00:56:51.680
Christ sees them and then I become the thing that they uh I don't want to say I become the

897
00:56:51.680 --> 00:57:03.120
thing that they need the um but they just um I I make them feel like a very like a very powerful

898
00:57:03.120 --> 00:57:12.080
contributor to the conversation as opposed to me being um me being the powerful in the powerful

899
00:57:12.080 --> 00:57:20.960
position I was trained and I used to train people how to be the powerful position and I believe that

900
00:57:20.960 --> 00:57:29.840
it is actually a lot more healthy and much more effective conversation to empower the other person

901
00:57:29.840 --> 00:57:36.880
in the conversation where where you are actually drawing them up to be equal with you you're

902
00:57:36.880 --> 00:57:43.920
inviting them and you are treating them as such in the conversation as opposed to being the person

903
00:57:43.920 --> 00:57:51.760
that that it coming across as the person that has the knowledge has the wisdom has the experience

904
00:57:51.760 --> 00:57:56.480
and they need you and they need your help and you're you're you're just figuring out if they're

905
00:57:56.480 --> 00:58:03.440
a good fit um because it's very demeaning and it's very disempowering and not to mention the fact

906
00:58:03.440 --> 00:58:13.120
it's going to trigger trauma trauma victims um but it but if to um but you are actually initiating

907
00:58:13.760 --> 00:58:24.400
the the um uh giving them power to see to be equal with you because you are telling them that they

908
00:58:24.400 --> 00:58:30.800
are and that is how you're choosing to treat them that makes a huge difference um really really huge

909
00:58:30.800 --> 00:58:37.280
difference so but anyway the whole that I think we got started in all all of that um from me saying

910
00:58:37.280 --> 00:58:44.000
that um that uh it's important to empower someone to make their own decision is really what it is

911
00:58:44.720 --> 00:58:52.560
yeah no thank you so yeah you're welcome oh hey Lori oh my word there's a there's a raised hand

912
00:58:52.560 --> 00:58:57.200
I think I've only seen those like once or twice I love it everyone else wants to figure out how

913
00:58:57.200 --> 00:59:03.440
to do it that's awesome I do not know how to do it but I love it go ahead Lori so kind of along

914
00:59:03.440 --> 00:59:09.600
the lines of what you were saying um so I'm a photographer and all of the training that I have

915
00:59:09.600 --> 00:59:15.840
taken and all of the I don't know workshops and things that I have attended they often talk about

916
00:59:15.840 --> 00:59:23.600
you know attracting your ideal client or uh reaching reaching high-end clients like that

917
00:59:23.600 --> 00:59:31.120
should be your goal is to reach high-end clients and only share um like share on your social media

918
00:59:31.120 --> 00:59:40.160
clients that are considered your ideal client so um that's really what they what they emphasize but

919
00:59:40.160 --> 00:59:48.960
I um I always felt like I wanted to offer my service not just to high-end clients but I felt

920
00:59:48.960 --> 00:59:55.120
like everyone deserved a professional photographer um not to the point where I mean obviously I need

921
00:59:55.120 --> 00:59:59.760
to provide I mean I need to have not just lose money or whatever but to me

922
01:00:00.000 --> 01:00:05.000
make it available to lower middle class incomes, whatever.

923
01:00:05.160 --> 01:00:07.680
But anyways, I think what always struck me

924
01:00:07.680 --> 01:00:12.680
was the idea that if you do have a client

925
01:00:14.120 --> 01:00:16.520
that is not your ideal client,

926
01:00:16.520 --> 01:00:19.200
then you should not share about them

927
01:00:19.200 --> 01:00:22.920
or celebrate them on your social media.

928
01:00:22.920 --> 01:00:26.040
A lot of photographers will share their images,

929
01:00:26.040 --> 01:00:27.600
share about the client,

930
01:00:27.600 --> 01:00:30.400
and really just make them feel good about themselves.

931
01:00:30.400 --> 01:00:33.560
That's kind of what our goal is as photographers

932
01:00:33.560 --> 01:00:34.920
is not just to capture memories,

933
01:00:34.920 --> 01:00:37.180
but to also make people feel empowered

934
01:00:37.180 --> 01:00:39.480
and good in their own skin.

935
01:00:39.480 --> 01:00:40.760
Well, I had an experience

936
01:00:40.760 --> 01:00:44.160
where I hired a high-end photographer

937
01:00:44.160 --> 01:00:48.800
and she never shared anything about me on her page.

938
01:00:48.800 --> 01:00:50.840
So I felt like, oh my word,

939
01:00:50.840 --> 01:00:53.160
like my wedding wasn't good enough,

940
01:00:53.160 --> 01:00:54.800
I wasn't good enough,

941
01:00:54.800 --> 01:00:58.600
and I wasn't even worthy of her to share it

942
01:00:58.600 --> 01:01:02.600
or celebrate me like she does her other clients.

943
01:01:02.600 --> 01:01:06.120
So I just always felt like they really emphasized,

944
01:01:08.240 --> 01:01:09.580
I heard it yesterday,

945
01:01:10.720 --> 01:01:14.220
really work on your prized pumpkin,

946
01:01:14.220 --> 01:01:15.840
like grow the biggest pumpkin,

947
01:01:15.840 --> 01:01:18.240
which is your one, that whole idea.

948
01:01:18.240 --> 01:01:22.200
So I don't know, I've always struggled with the idea

949
01:01:22.240 --> 01:01:25.000
that you should only celebrate

950
01:01:25.000 --> 01:01:28.200
your highest, most ideal client,

951
01:01:28.200 --> 01:01:30.920
whether or not they pay your prices or not.

952
01:01:30.920 --> 01:01:32.720
You know what I'm trying to say?

953
01:01:32.720 --> 01:01:33.960
I don't get it.

954
01:01:33.960 --> 01:01:36.160
Yeah, and so you're saying you're struggling with it

955
01:01:36.160 --> 01:01:38.280
because you want to be able to do that,

956
01:01:38.280 --> 01:01:40.800
you want to be able to share whoever you want, or?

957
01:01:40.800 --> 01:01:44.840
Yes, I want to be able to celebrate everyone,

958
01:01:44.840 --> 01:01:46.600
whether or not they're a high-end client,

959
01:01:46.600 --> 01:01:50.640
whether or not they're a doctor or a lawyer or whatever.

960
01:01:50.640 --> 01:01:52.360
I want to be able to celebrate them,

961
01:01:52.360 --> 01:01:55.920
but they really emphasize that in order to attract

962
01:01:55.920 --> 01:01:58.420
your ideal clients, you cannot be sharing,

963
01:02:00.280 --> 01:02:01.840
you know, yeah.

964
01:02:01.840 --> 01:02:04.400
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

965
01:02:04.400 --> 01:02:05.480
Sorry, I'm trying to adjust this

966
01:02:05.480 --> 01:02:08.160
so I can shift in my share.

967
01:02:08.160 --> 01:02:12.320
Okay, so yes, there's a lot of things that I talk about

968
01:02:12.320 --> 01:02:16.380
in the last half of the rest of the intensive.

969
01:02:16.380 --> 01:02:18.680
So you get into the ones that start talking about business,

970
01:02:18.680 --> 01:02:20.560
there's a lot of this that I talk about.

971
01:02:21.360 --> 01:02:23.600
And that is the fact that based on our identity in Christ,

972
01:02:23.600 --> 01:02:24.840
you know, shifting into rest,

973
01:02:24.840 --> 01:02:27.240
because remember rest is simply,

974
01:02:27.240 --> 01:02:29.640
it's a place in which we're abiding.

975
01:02:29.640 --> 01:02:31.880
And that place that we're abiding is in God.

976
01:02:31.880 --> 01:02:34.320
It's in the Father, we're actually one with Him

977
01:02:34.320 --> 01:02:35.280
in all of that.

978
01:02:35.280 --> 01:02:38.920
So because that is that, in that place rest,

979
01:02:38.920 --> 01:02:41.800
you know, that being one with God, that's our identity.

980
01:02:41.800 --> 01:02:44.000
We can do everything from that place.

981
01:02:45.240 --> 01:02:47.640
And it's the same thing as,

982
01:02:47.640 --> 01:02:51.040
I know that you've, just started this week,

983
01:02:51.040 --> 01:02:52.960
so I know you haven't gotten into these videos.

984
01:02:52.960 --> 01:02:56.480
So I will try to explain this as best as I can

985
01:02:56.480 --> 01:02:58.360
without sounding confusing.

986
01:02:58.360 --> 01:03:01.840
But so I'll just touch on some things

987
01:03:01.840 --> 01:03:03.680
in a very highlighted way.

988
01:03:03.680 --> 01:03:06.880
And I'm hoping that it won't like drown you in information,

989
01:03:06.880 --> 01:03:07.800
but here we go.

990
01:03:07.800 --> 01:03:10.600
So there's the tree of operating according

991
01:03:10.600 --> 01:03:12.480
to the tree of life versus the tree of the knowledge

992
01:03:12.480 --> 01:03:13.400
of good and evil.

993
01:03:13.400 --> 01:03:17.160
Operating according to the tree of life is that option,

994
01:03:17.680 --> 01:03:19.360
that choice that we have to operate

995
01:03:19.360 --> 01:03:21.840
from relationship with the Lord,

996
01:03:21.840 --> 01:03:25.360
where we understand it and understand our relationship

997
01:03:25.360 --> 01:03:27.440
with Him and the fact that He is our Father

998
01:03:27.440 --> 01:03:29.720
and that He provides for and He protects us.

999
01:03:29.720 --> 01:03:33.720
He provides our clients that the results

1000
01:03:33.720 --> 01:03:37.080
and the outcome of our lives, of our business,

1001
01:03:37.080 --> 01:03:40.920
whatever is not dependent on our activity.

1002
01:03:40.920 --> 01:03:43.400
God gives good gifts to His children

1003
01:03:43.400 --> 01:03:45.080
and they're freely given.

1004
01:03:45.080 --> 01:03:47.520
And therefore, we have to freely receive them,

1005
01:03:47.520 --> 01:03:49.960
meaning we're not allowed to work for them.

1006
01:03:49.960 --> 01:03:51.960
Or we can choose to operate according to the tree

1007
01:03:51.960 --> 01:03:53.600
of the knowledge of good and evil,

1008
01:03:53.600 --> 01:03:56.720
meaning that, and the reason why we choose that,

1009
01:03:56.720 --> 01:03:58.560
just like Eve did, is this belief

1010
01:03:58.560 --> 01:04:00.120
that God's holding out on us,

1011
01:04:00.120 --> 01:04:02.440
that there's some way in which we're in lack

1012
01:04:02.440 --> 01:04:04.600
and God's not going to provide for and protect us.

1013
01:04:04.600 --> 01:04:06.400
God's not gonna give us the client.

1014
01:04:06.400 --> 01:04:07.960
We've gotta work really hard for them.

1015
01:04:07.960 --> 01:04:10.920
We've gotta work and we've gotta figure out

1016
01:04:10.920 --> 01:04:12.680
and follow all the tips and tricks

1017
01:04:12.680 --> 01:04:14.800
and strategies and formulas

1018
01:04:14.800 --> 01:04:17.080
in order to get something to work.

1019
01:04:17.080 --> 01:04:19.400
But remember that everybody who's telling you that

1020
01:04:19.400 --> 01:04:21.960
is operating according to this tree,

1021
01:04:21.960 --> 01:04:24.800
which, and it's the world's belief

1022
01:04:24.800 --> 01:04:26.640
that they're abandoned, that they're alone,

1023
01:04:26.640 --> 01:04:29.000
and that they have to work very hard

1024
01:04:29.000 --> 01:04:31.480
using very specific formulas and strategies

1025
01:04:31.480 --> 01:04:33.080
that do work, by the way.

1026
01:04:33.080 --> 01:04:37.080
But because they believe that their God has abandoned them

1027
01:04:37.080 --> 01:04:39.840
or that He is holding us responsible

1028
01:04:39.840 --> 01:04:42.400
for following all of these principles,

1029
01:04:43.400 --> 01:04:45.440
if He's gonna give us a gift.

1030
01:04:45.440 --> 01:04:47.800
So in other words, we've confused ourselves

1031
01:04:47.800 --> 01:04:51.040
in thinking that we have to work

1032
01:04:51.040 --> 01:04:52.440
for everything that we get.

1033
01:04:52.440 --> 01:04:54.280
We have to work for a wage.

1034
01:04:54.280 --> 01:04:58.240
So that's one of the things that I talk about

1035
01:04:58.240 --> 01:05:00.120
related to clients is.

1036
01:05:00.000 --> 01:05:03.600
that God is, that we have the opportunity to choose,

1037
01:05:03.600 --> 01:05:05.880
that God provides our clients,

1038
01:05:05.880 --> 01:05:10.560
and that we no longer have to be burdened with,

1039
01:05:10.560 --> 01:05:13.920
choose to live burdened with the responsibility

1040
01:05:13.920 --> 01:05:17.640
that whether we get a client or not get a client,

1041
01:05:17.640 --> 01:05:19.960
it was dependent upon our decision.

1042
01:05:19.960 --> 01:05:21.280
We made a good decision,

1043
01:05:21.280 --> 01:05:25.480
so therefore God rewarded us with a client,

1044
01:05:25.480 --> 01:05:27.120
or we didn't make a good decision,

1045
01:05:27.120 --> 01:05:30.440
and therefore God punished us with no clients or whatever.

1046
01:05:30.440 --> 01:05:31.800
So there's that aspect,

1047
01:05:31.800 --> 01:05:35.360
and the other thing is that I wanna mention

1048
01:05:35.360 --> 01:05:40.360
is that our business is, that your business is you.

1049
01:05:41.120 --> 01:05:44.040
Your business is your spirit.

1050
01:05:44.040 --> 01:05:46.880
You know, being identified with the Lord,

1051
01:05:46.880 --> 01:05:49.800
residing in Him, and having that relationship

1052
01:05:49.800 --> 01:05:53.660
with you are the beloved son of the Father.

1053
01:05:53.660 --> 01:05:55.640
You are what the world needs.

1054
01:05:55.720 --> 01:05:57.560
You are what your business needs.

1055
01:05:57.560 --> 01:05:59.440
You are who your clients are hiring.

1056
01:05:59.440 --> 01:06:00.880
They're not hiring your business.

1057
01:06:00.880 --> 01:06:02.660
They're not hiring your expertise.

1058
01:06:02.660 --> 01:06:04.560
They're not hiring your experience.

1059
01:06:04.560 --> 01:06:06.000
They're hiring your spirit,

1060
01:06:06.000 --> 01:06:07.800
and that is something that is very different

1061
01:06:07.800 --> 01:06:09.000
than what anybody else,

1062
01:06:09.000 --> 01:06:11.560
any other photographer can offer to them,

1063
01:06:11.560 --> 01:06:16.480
and because God intends for our spirits

1064
01:06:16.480 --> 01:06:19.680
to flow through our business in order to impact the world,

1065
01:06:19.680 --> 01:06:22.840
and it's your spirit that's the life,

1066
01:06:23.080 --> 01:06:26.320
that is giving life through your business,

1067
01:06:26.320 --> 01:06:27.980
and it's impacting the world.

1068
01:06:28.920 --> 01:06:33.920
It's very, then we have a,

1069
01:06:35.280 --> 01:06:39.600
not a responsibility, we have a privilege,

1070
01:06:39.600 --> 01:06:44.120
we have the opportunity to express who it is that we are,

1071
01:06:44.120 --> 01:06:47.400
and what it is that makes our spirit come alive,

1072
01:06:47.400 --> 01:06:49.360
as opposed to stifling it,

1073
01:06:49.360 --> 01:06:52.600
thinking there must be something wrong with it.

1074
01:06:53.560 --> 01:06:54.400
I can't trust it.

1075
01:06:54.400 --> 01:06:57.320
I have to, it can probably harm me.

1076
01:06:57.320 --> 01:06:59.400
It can probably be destructive,

1077
01:06:59.400 --> 01:07:03.340
and so therefore, I need something outside of me,

1078
01:07:03.340 --> 01:07:05.200
a formula, a strategy,

1079
01:07:05.200 --> 01:07:08.480
something that somebody else has figured out,

1080
01:07:08.480 --> 01:07:10.080
and I have to ignore me,

1081
01:07:10.080 --> 01:07:13.160
and I have to think about all these things

1082
01:07:13.160 --> 01:07:17.200
that other people that are apparently smarter than I am

1083
01:07:17.200 --> 01:07:18.440
think that I ought to do,

1084
01:07:18.960 --> 01:07:23.040
and I've proven that if I follow that list,

1085
01:07:24.400 --> 01:07:26.760
I'll get a particular result.

1086
01:07:26.760 --> 01:07:29.160
When God is just like, no, no, no,

1087
01:07:29.160 --> 01:07:32.160
I want your spirit to impact the world,

1088
01:07:32.160 --> 01:07:34.720
and so therefore, it's what comes out of your spirit

1089
01:07:34.720 --> 01:07:37.080
that needs to influence your business,

1090
01:07:37.080 --> 01:07:39.480
the decisions that you make in your business,

1091
01:07:39.480 --> 01:07:42.100
who it is that you want to,

1092
01:07:42.100 --> 01:07:45.400
the fact that you desire to celebrate all those people,

1093
01:07:45.400 --> 01:07:47.720
regardless of how much money they spend,

1094
01:07:47.800 --> 01:07:48.960
and what their package was,

1095
01:07:48.960 --> 01:07:51.120
and that they purchased from you,

1096
01:07:51.120 --> 01:07:54.320
and how many flower arrangements,

1097
01:07:54.320 --> 01:07:56.080
and how big the flower arrangements were,

1098
01:07:56.080 --> 01:07:59.040
and what the price tag was at that wedding,

1099
01:07:59.040 --> 01:08:02.960
and whether it was in a barn with 25 people,

1100
01:08:02.960 --> 01:08:05.280
or whether it was in a ballroom with,

1101
01:08:05.280 --> 01:08:10.280
with a, I don't know, 5,000 guest list.

1102
01:08:13.280 --> 01:08:15.480
If that is who it is that you are,

1103
01:08:15.480 --> 01:08:17.520
that's what your business needs,

1104
01:08:18.359 --> 01:08:19.600
and that is going to,

1105
01:08:19.600 --> 01:08:23.680
so allow your spirit to flow through your business

1106
01:08:23.680 --> 01:08:25.819
so it can touch other people,

1107
01:08:25.819 --> 01:08:27.640
because if you're hiding it,

1108
01:08:27.640 --> 01:08:29.880
quote, unquote, unquote,

1109
01:08:29.880 --> 01:08:33.040
behind formulas and strategies,

1110
01:08:33.040 --> 01:08:36.359
then the very life that God intended

1111
01:08:36.359 --> 01:08:38.640
to flow through the business

1112
01:08:38.640 --> 01:08:41.520
and impact someone is being stifled,

1113
01:08:41.520 --> 01:08:43.880
and you don't have to live like that,

1114
01:08:43.880 --> 01:08:47.439
and you need to know that you are what is needed.

1115
01:08:48.240 --> 01:08:50.000
You are not something that's destructive,

1116
01:08:50.000 --> 01:08:51.960
and that needs to be hidden.

1117
01:08:51.960 --> 01:08:53.720
That needs to come,

1118
01:08:53.720 --> 01:08:56.319
so you can learn to trust yourself,

1119
01:08:56.319 --> 01:08:58.560
and you can come on this journey into,

1120
01:08:58.560 --> 01:08:59.960
you know, with the Lord,

1121
01:08:59.960 --> 01:09:01.640
on how to trust yourself,

1122
01:09:01.640 --> 01:09:05.399
and trust that, trust how to know

1123
01:09:05.399 --> 01:09:08.040
when there's something that's coming up in your spirit

1124
01:09:08.040 --> 01:09:10.000
that the Lord desires to flow through your business.

1125
01:09:10.000 --> 01:09:12.640
So, yeah, the world won't understand it,

1126
01:09:12.640 --> 01:09:14.640
because the world thinks it's abandoned and alone,

1127
01:09:14.640 --> 01:09:16.479
has come up with all these objective ways

1128
01:09:16.479 --> 01:09:19.040
to get outside of themselves,

1129
01:09:19.040 --> 01:09:21.880
and look at something that they learn in a conference

1130
01:09:21.880 --> 01:09:24.840
about all of these things that someone else did,

1131
01:09:24.840 --> 01:09:26.600
all of these steps, one through 10,

1132
01:09:26.600 --> 01:09:30.040
that they did in order to make a million dollar business,

1133
01:09:30.040 --> 01:09:35.040
and God's just like, no, it's people that change the world.

1134
01:09:35.279 --> 01:09:37.760
So, is that helpful?

1135
01:09:37.760 --> 01:09:42.760
I feel like 50 tons have just been lifted off of me.

1136
01:09:43.279 --> 01:09:45.680
I just feel like, oh my goodness,

1137
01:09:45.680 --> 01:09:50.680
I, wow, yeah, I'm excited to listen

1138
01:09:52.560 --> 01:09:55.760
to the rest of the videos in your unit,

1139
01:09:55.760 --> 01:09:58.040
because I, as you were talking,

1140
01:09:58.040 --> 01:10:00.240
I just felt like the Lord just took.

1141
01:10:00.000 --> 01:10:02.560
all of this weighed off of me and just, I don't know.

1142
01:10:02.560 --> 01:10:05.940
And I just felt like the spirit of hope and peace just,

1143
01:10:05.940 --> 01:10:08.400
I don't know, was such a good feeling.

1144
01:10:08.400 --> 01:10:10.700
I was almost getting emotional because I just,

1145
01:10:11.600 --> 01:10:13.240
I just feel like it's been a long time

1146
01:10:13.240 --> 01:10:16.840
since I've trusted the Holy Spirit to lead

1147
01:10:16.840 --> 01:10:19.160
because I've been focused on all these formulas

1148
01:10:19.160 --> 01:10:21.960
and strategies that have been thrown at me

1149
01:10:21.960 --> 01:10:23.360
in order to succeed.

1150
01:10:23.360 --> 01:10:24.200
I don't know.

1151
01:10:24.200 --> 01:10:26.440
So thank you very much.

1152
01:10:26.440 --> 01:10:27.480
You're welcome.

1153
01:10:27.480 --> 01:10:28.320
You're welcome.

1154
01:10:29.160 --> 01:10:31.560
And forgive me that I'm using this as an example.

1155
01:10:31.560 --> 01:10:33.000
It just occurred to me.

1156
01:10:34.120 --> 01:10:35.860
Ladies, that is empowering.

1157
01:10:38.040 --> 01:10:40.560
I don't, because it's not, you know,

1158
01:10:40.560 --> 01:10:42.440
I'm not telling you what you should do.

1159
01:10:42.440 --> 01:10:44.360
I'm not telling you, oh, well, this is the right answer.

1160
01:10:44.360 --> 01:10:46.400
No, I'm like, what is it that you want?

1161
01:10:46.400 --> 01:10:48.000
And what is it you need?

1162
01:10:48.000 --> 01:10:49.600
And then, and figure that out.

1163
01:10:49.600 --> 01:10:52.040
And so, whatever, I was a little more direct

1164
01:10:52.040 --> 01:10:53.360
in the fact that I was telling you

1165
01:10:53.360 --> 01:10:55.080
instead of asking you questions.

1166
01:10:55.080 --> 01:10:59.520
Normally, if I'm on a call with a potential client,

1167
01:10:59.520 --> 01:11:03.640
you know, I would always ask all of these opening questions.

1168
01:11:03.640 --> 01:11:07.200
So what do you think about, and da, da, da.

1169
01:11:07.200 --> 01:11:09.000
But anyway, it's that kind of a thing.

1170
01:11:09.000 --> 01:11:11.400
You just make somebody, help them to understand

1171
01:11:11.400 --> 01:11:15.760
that they have everything it is that they need

1172
01:11:15.760 --> 01:11:17.400
and they don't need anybody else.

1173
01:11:17.400 --> 01:11:18.640
So.

1174
01:11:18.640 --> 01:11:20.400
Thank you so much.

1175
01:11:20.400 --> 01:11:21.240
You're welcome.

1176
01:11:21.240 --> 01:11:22.080
Hey, Steph.

1177
01:11:23.080 --> 01:11:25.480
And just what was Flory was talking about,

1178
01:11:25.480 --> 01:11:27.400
we have two friends.

1179
01:11:27.400 --> 01:11:30.080
One was a high-end wedding photographer,

1180
01:11:30.080 --> 01:11:32.520
which she quit and went,

1181
01:11:33.560 --> 01:11:35.440
I think she's a nurse at a cancer center,

1182
01:11:35.440 --> 01:11:37.680
went and got her degree.

1183
01:11:37.680 --> 01:11:40.000
But she was very exclusive.

1184
01:11:41.520 --> 01:11:44.160
It seemed pretty cold, like kind of out of reach,

1185
01:11:44.160 --> 01:11:47.160
which I have taken a lot of the boutique photography courses

1186
01:11:48.240 --> 01:11:49.760
which I take pictures of the girls,

1187
01:11:50.480 --> 01:11:53.000
nothing for business.

1188
01:11:53.000 --> 01:11:55.600
But I remember the word she kept using was,

1189
01:11:55.600 --> 01:11:57.600
but you're a boutique, you're a boutique.

1190
01:11:57.600 --> 01:12:01.320
And the high-end, things like that.

1191
01:12:01.320 --> 01:12:03.440
And then there was a photographer friend of mine

1192
01:12:03.440 --> 01:12:05.360
that very well loved.

1193
01:12:05.360 --> 01:12:09.520
And the only reason that she quit her business

1194
01:12:09.520 --> 01:12:11.200
is she has an empty nest now.

1195
01:12:11.200 --> 01:12:12.880
So when the baby went to college,

1196
01:12:12.880 --> 01:12:14.280
she's like, okay, I'm done.

1197
01:12:14.280 --> 01:12:17.040
And they've traveled the United States and things like that.

1198
01:12:17.040 --> 01:12:20.280
But she stayed so busy, so busy,

1199
01:12:20.280 --> 01:12:23.280
because she literally, you would see some photos

1200
01:12:23.280 --> 01:12:24.120
and you're like, oh, wow,

1201
01:12:24.120 --> 01:12:29.120
that family was very well-to-do and things like that.

1202
01:12:29.720 --> 01:12:31.240
And you see others.

1203
01:12:31.240 --> 01:12:32.960
And knowing her and knowing her heart,

1204
01:12:32.960 --> 01:12:35.360
I don't know if she changed her prices or not,

1205
01:12:35.360 --> 01:12:37.520
family to family, and that's her business.

1206
01:12:37.520 --> 01:12:39.240
But it's like, that was really cool.

1207
01:12:39.240 --> 01:12:41.560
She made really cool memories for them, things like that.

1208
01:12:41.560 --> 01:12:43.800
She did a lot of our family pictures too.

1209
01:12:43.800 --> 01:12:46.520
So I guess we're kind of middle ground, I don't know.

1210
01:12:46.600 --> 01:12:49.920
But the fact that all of the families, all of the kids,

1211
01:12:49.920 --> 01:12:52.840
everybody gets celebrated, and that was a huge deal.

1212
01:12:52.840 --> 01:12:54.240
There was like a lot of,

1213
01:12:54.240 --> 01:12:55.840
you can see the love through her pictures.

1214
01:12:55.840 --> 01:12:58.400
She's like, oh, look, he's 10 days new.

1215
01:12:58.400 --> 01:13:01.560
And it didn't matter if he was wearing a high-end outfit

1216
01:13:01.560 --> 01:13:04.200
or just a little beanie, things like that.

1217
01:13:04.200 --> 01:13:07.480
So yeah, definitely follow your convictions.

1218
01:13:07.480 --> 01:13:10.040
So I get all teary-eyed too,

1219
01:13:10.040 --> 01:13:11.480
because I do that with my business.

1220
01:13:11.480 --> 01:13:13.320
It's like, yeah, I feel like I really need to do this,

1221
01:13:13.320 --> 01:13:14.560
so I do that.

1222
01:13:14.600 --> 01:13:17.680
So definitely convictions more than classes.

1223
01:13:19.880 --> 01:13:20.720
Oh, there you go.

1224
01:13:20.720 --> 01:13:22.400
I like that, convictions over classes.

1225
01:13:24.000 --> 01:13:26.560
That's really good, thanks, Steph, appreciate that.

1226
01:13:27.800 --> 01:13:31.640
Well, it looks like our time is up.

1227
01:13:31.640 --> 01:13:33.200
It's good to be with everybody.

1228
01:13:33.200 --> 01:13:36.840
I hope y'all have a good rest of the week.

1229
01:13:36.840 --> 01:13:41.080
I have looked at my schedule, and we will, unfortunately,

1230
01:13:41.080 --> 01:13:42.040
this is very rare.

1231
01:13:42.040 --> 01:13:44.520
I think this is only the second time this has happened,

1232
01:13:45.480 --> 01:13:47.880
but we won't have a call next week.

1233
01:13:47.880 --> 01:13:50.040
I'm sorry, I think I'm in a conference.

1234
01:13:50.040 --> 01:13:52.520
Yeah, I am, I'm in a conference.

1235
01:13:52.520 --> 01:13:55.720
Like, the first session of the conference is,

1236
01:13:55.720 --> 01:14:00.720
it's during our time, but we should be on the following week.

1237
01:14:05.280 --> 01:14:07.520
And then I'll send out a reminder to everybody

1238
01:14:07.520 --> 01:14:12.360
a couple of hours before our usual call next Thursday

1239
01:14:12.360 --> 01:14:13.640
that we won't be having it.

1240
01:14:13.640 --> 01:14:16.560
So for the new people, I apologize, this is very rare.

1241
01:14:16.560 --> 01:14:18.480
I've only ever done this once before

1242
01:14:18.480 --> 01:14:23.480
where I didn't have a call.

1243
01:14:24.640 --> 01:14:28.800
I don't remember why, I don't remember.

1244
01:14:28.800 --> 01:14:31.520
But oh, you know what, I do know why.

1245
01:14:31.520 --> 01:14:34.760
It was the first night I had arrived at Linda's,

1246
01:14:34.760 --> 01:14:37.960
at Linda's Retreat Center, that's what it was.

1247
01:14:37.960 --> 01:14:40.720
It was the first night, and I couldn't coordinate

1248
01:14:40.720 --> 01:14:44.560
my arrival with enough time to be able to do that,

1249
01:14:44.560 --> 01:14:47.040
until the Thursday night.

1250
01:14:47.040 --> 01:14:52.040
So yay, Linda, your retreat was a very momentous event.

1251
01:14:53.680 --> 01:14:58.520
So anyway, sorry about that,

1252
01:14:58.520 --> 01:15:00.160
we will not have anything next.

1253
01:15:00.000 --> 01:15:07.560
week, but y'all know that I am available by Marco Polo and for the new

1254
01:15:07.560 --> 01:15:12.280
people at the private sessions and so y'all reach out to me if you need

1255
01:15:12.280 --> 01:15:18.800
something. I hope y'all enjoy the, so April and Lori, I hope y'all enjoyed the

1256
01:15:18.800 --> 01:15:24.480
videos as y'all go through and I'm trying to think, I thought there was

1257
01:15:24.480 --> 01:15:27.720
something else I was going to say, but maybe I covered everything. So it was

1258
01:15:27.720 --> 01:15:35.960
good to see everybody and I will see y'all in a couple of weeks. Bye.