Let's go ahead and get started.
Hey ladies!
How are y'all?
I'm sorry y'all have been waiting in the waiting room a while.
I thought nobody was on so I'm just waiting.
I set up my light while I was waiting.
Anyway, I was like, well, I don't know, maybe I should go check.
Sure enough, two people are in there.
Oh, I'm so sorry.
So good to see you again, Amy.
Hey, Rochelle!
Hi!
I can see everybody.
You can keep yourself off where we don't see you,
but just FYI, I can't see you in case you think I can.
You can keep yourself off if you want to.
Some people do.
Well, my littles are almost asleep,
so until they're fully out.
Once they're out, I'll have some light.
You can't see me even if I put the video on right now.
Oh, wow, yeah.
It's perfectly fine.
People do different things.
I can't see you.
Some people are like, oh, you can't see me.
So I am in my new place now.
My new place, meaning the new place I'm staying at for the next several days.
I'm trying to think of how many nights I'm going to be here.
Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday.
I think four nights, maybe.
So unless something changes.
I don't know.
I'm going to see if I can get to your house.
I did not get to meet up.
We were this close.
We were 30 minutes.
Anyway, and with that, I thought, okay, well,
maybe I can get to your house.
And that didn't work.
Which honestly, yeah, if I had done that, I would have missed,
I would have missed this call.
So I don't know.
I'm going to see if there's some way, surely.
But I'm this close.
I'm going to check.
I'm going to check that Cheryl is not far from here.
So Reese.
So she's with, she's, you know, here in Ohio.
I don't remember how far away she is.
I'm going to have to check.
But anyway, so I'm going to have to see if I can fit those two things.
Those.
Two visits in while I'm here. I have to write.
Steph was saying when she and I were trying to.
Orchestrate.
Seeing each other.
I'm sorry.
Yeah.
We should have a rest intensive.
What did she call it? Retreat or something.
We said.
Yeah.
We'd always.
Yeah.
Go to a lake house or something.
Be fun.
That's right.
Something I was going to say about that.
I remember what it was, but yeah.
Okay.
Oh, Steph, how was the birthday dinner?
It was.
Hey, it was Dan's birthday dinner.
So.
It was good.
If I hadn't already made plans to hurry home,
Becky had Bailey and Emma and all of the puppies.
So, and she fixed a birthday dinner.
So we felt like we needed to get home.
Oh, that's pretty impressive.
Wow, very impressive.
It was good.
Super woman.
Yeah.
Good.
Well, I'm here in lovely Ohio.
You made it.
Yeah, I did.
I made it.
And so I am out in the country.
I mean, like in the middle of nowhere.
And so I'm very excited about,
but I'm like on these, like this two lane road
and I couldn't, and so it was interesting.
And then of course I'm passing and you know, in the dark
and then I'm like traveling for like 20,
at least 20, if not 30, it felt like 30.
Maybe it was only 20 minutes, you know,
in the dark and through these winding roads.
But I'm telling you what, it was,
it was the terrain was so cool that I thought
it has got to be stunning in the daylight.
I'm very excited about it.
And I'm telling you what, just the most gorgeous drive,
just like when I went to see Rochelle
and then that beautiful, you know, fall trees.
Oh my word, going, Asheville was amazing.
And then going up from Asheville all the way up through,
what did we go through?
Went through North, thank you.
Virginia, West Virginia, and then Ohio.
Gorgeous, oh my word.
I just loved it.
Anyway, well, we didn't go from Asheville.
We went from Moravian Falls.
We went to Moravian Falls
and we were there for a couple of nights.
And that was fun.
Went up on Prairie Mountain.
I did, went up on Prairie Mountain and all that.
So anyway, oh, that was so much fun.
So does anyone have,
make sure I haven't missed anybody.
Good, I have not.
Does anyone have any,
oh, good.
Does anyone have any questions to start us off with?
Hey, Alana.
Anything that is on people's radar,
anything that's been going on?
Any questions?
Okay, I always have a question.
That's great, I love it.
I always have something to talk about.
Good.
So here's what's been on my heart this week.
So I feel like I'm a bit double-minded in a few areas.
And I think that this is something
you could totally speak to.
So I've been really involved with watching The Vow
and trying to pass it on to people who are in my group
who are still indoctrinated and haven't woken up.
And people are watching it and they're like,
oh my gosh, this is so amazing.
I'm waking up.
They're literally throwing up in some cases
because they're just like blown away by the similarities.
And it's been really powerful for my friends and I
to be passing that around.
And then my friend, Sarah, who I've talked to you about,
her group, the leader of it,
just got 120 years in prison this week.
So he, Keith Ranieri.
CM.
Yeah, the next CM one.
So he just got sentenced to life in prison,
which is amazing.
So I've been chatting with her.
I've been chatting with my friends that have been involved
with like watching The Vow and passing it on.
And here's where I'm at.
Part of me is so passionate about helping people
see the truth and helping them wake up
because I know the position I was in when I was asleep
and I couldn't see what was happening to me
and how damaging it was.
And I know there are people that are still in the group
experiencing that.
And I also know that like I get to move forward
and I get to live in that space of,
you know, being an overcomer and agreeing with that
and not sliding back.
But when I focus on it,
even though I'm focusing on it to help people,
it can still like kind of be in me almost too much
or not consume me, but just be a big part of my life.
And even though I've got other things going on,
I've got my business, I've got my purpose,
I've got all this other great stuff.
I will get into that space,
which is very difficult sometimes because it's like,
you know, it's a cult space, right?
Like it's a pull.
It's like, you know what I mean?
Yeah.
Yeah, it's like spiritual quicksand, yeah.
Yeah, totally.
And then I feel like I'm kind of like rising above
and living life and doing well.
And I'm not where I used to be as far as getting
really sucked in and like sinking in the quicksand,
but I feel myself standing on it
and going down a little bit.
And I'm like, I should probably get out of here.
So I'm trying really hard to just sort of figure out
what the balance is to really know
what the healthiest place for me to be in is.
Does that make sense?
Yeah, yeah, it does.
So what do you feel, I'm trying to figure out
how to help you figure out where that balance is
because it's different for everyone.
Everyone is given a different grace.
And they're, what it is that they can handle,
what it is to, and so it just,
I'm trying to figure out how to explain how, again,
how you can figure this out.
It's dangerous to be involved in anything
just even out of trying to help people who are in a cult
or think about like people helping other people
out of sex trafficking,
helping people out of ministering to those
in the drug community.
I mean, all of this stuff, it sounds great and wonderful,
but the problem is there is so much spiritual darkness there
that it is, and it's extremely strong,
it's extremely powerful.
And if we're not coming at it with either grace
or understanding our identity,
and we're coming more from,
if we're coming at it with a lack of protection,
then that world knows more than we do.
The spiritual forces know that game better than we do.
And so therefore it leaves us susceptible.
And so we realize, okay, okay,
there's only so far that I can touch it
and go into it before I need to pull out because,
so does that make sense?
And everybody's different on that.
And it's not an evidence of the fact that,
oh, well, some people are just weak
and they just can't handle it.
It's not that, it's that people,
some people are called to it and most people,
most people aren't.
So like you're watching the vow,
I'm like, I don't wanna watch the vow, you know, why?
Well, that's just not something that,
and the Lord has given me the ability that I'm aware of,
unless he calls me into and changes something,
to be able to watch it unaffected.
And so there, for instance,
there were books that I have read
at certain times in my life,
we're talking about secular books,
that I've read at certain times in my life
that had very strong spiritual things
attached to the books.
And I was trying to watch, read them as an observer.
And God gave me the grace to read them once,
but he never has given me the grace to read them again.
And there were certain ones in the series that he's like,
hey, you can read this one.
It was not one really serious,
they were just books by the same author.
He said, you can read this one,
but as the new ones came out,
he said, you cannot read these others.
So my, because the spiritual thing was just so strong.
And then he did have a season
in which he gave me the grace to not be affected by it.
So my point is that there, you're right,
there is a balance, but it's based off of,
just what it is that you're sensing in the spirit.
So just allow yourself to be led by the Lord
and not so much of like, oh, I want to,
it'll help you if, like it does all of us,
if we just allow ourselves to be led by the spirit
as opposed to, oh, I desire to save other people.
I desire to help them or whatever,
because there's still danger for you.
And that's due to just that there's a preciousness
to what it is that you have with the Lord.
And sometimes the Lord does not want that
to be touched by any type of exposure to something else.
Because the thing that he has in you is special
and it's to be set aside and it's to be preserved
and it's supposed to be pure
and it can't touch other things.
So that's also, it's also what can be going on as well.
So my point in saying everything the way that I am
is to make sure that it's clear that I'm not talking about,
oh, you know, when we're weak,
we just can't do certain things.
It's not that, it's that there's something very precious
in being withheld.
from being allowed to touch something else, or being exposed to something else or whatever.
And so, so I just wanted to make sure that that that that was clear because otherwise, in the church, and even in the world, going into those situations can sound like this.
This amazing thing that everyone, you know, only the strong can do. No, the cold can do it.
So you just go in and you touch lives and you do you know you, you expose people to the bow or whatever it is that God specifically called you to do, just to the degree that you can.
And don't be worried that oh my goodness maybe I'm going too far. Sense it in your spirit because it's a spiritual thing that you're encountering.
It's not an organization, it is a spiritual.
It is it is a kingdom, it is a web. It is extremely intricate and it is astronomically power, the powerful those people that are in there like that.
They have, they have traded with they have sacrificed and traded aspects, so to speak, of their soul.
In order to have what it is that they have in order to have that that draw in that poll, and in order for to that fame that money that whatever.
And so it's so demonic powers are the things that are being allowed to have full reign there.
It, the cults are awful.
It's witchcraft, because it's manipulation because it's trying to steal someone else, not steal, but manipulate somebody else's free will that that's that's the witchcraft.
So anyway, it's really is that strong. So, as far as like finding a balance, there's no like rule, other than following following your spirit, but I wanted to mention all those other things so I know this sounds like a really long answer.
But the reason I wanted to mention that is, is so that if, if you feel like this pulled back that you don't feel that you don't get discouraged or feel condemned like you mean I'm just not strong enough yet you mean I haven't killed enough yet you mean I'm not.
You know, whatever. No, there's all kinds of special things that the Lord is preserving you for that may not be allowed to touch that thing.
You know, because then it would.
It would, I don't know, just change that the purity of something he's trying to do so I just wanted to mention that so that it can be seen whatever the Lord is trying to do and whatever, whenever the spirit spirit says stop.
You're just like, okay, he wants to preserve something special. I've got something that I'm being charged with, as opposed to. Oh, well, you know I'm not healed enough or whatever because that can get discouraging.
Does any of that make sense I know it doesn't tell you an exact way of how to know what the balance is that the balance is honestly just in the spirit, because this is a very serious spiritual battle in a spiritual organization.
But it does make sense and I think because I know God's given me an awesome purpose to live into because of it but because you know that that part of it the purpose part of it maybe isn't exactly the way or where I would want it to be yet.
But I still get pulled back into the old purpose that felt good at the time and I know it's not. And then my purpose now is to help other people that are in it, because the new purpose that I have around my business and everything isn't maybe flourishing yet the way I
want it to it's busy I've got clients I'm, they're doing great it's awesome but then I'm like but I want to help all these other people too and I want them to see and what if somebody didn't help me wake up where would I be right now.
And so that kind of comes up to so spiritually if I was to like see what was going on in the spiritual realm I wonder what.
I wonder what's happening you know.
Yeah.
Also there are there's a time for things as in when, when God gives us something and this is something I'm learning so I'm telling you all this while I'm learning to walk in this.
And that is that when God is the one who gives us something like a seat gives us a seat. Well, what does it talk about in the Bible and what are the print where the scientific principles that we that we see in the seed that that we have to give the seed
in Christ, Christ gave us the seed.
So we put it like a farmer we put it into, and, you know, you will be put it into Christ, and we, and we let it die because it says this see it says in the Bible a seed has to die first before, before it can grow so we have to let the thing die.
And we let Christ multiply it until at which point, until particular point which he says okay now you can take can begin to water, you can begin to.
you know, hoe the weeds around it. You can begin to do whatever and be part of the multiplication
process, but we have to let it die first. So in other words, there's always that there
can be a timing to things of things that God has given us. We're like, I know I'm supposed to do
this. I'm not saying this about your situation. You, this is something for you to take with the
look to the, um, to the Lord, um, and ask him about, um, but it's something that helps us kind
of understand, okay, why we can feel the Lord gave us something. And we're like, this is mine.
I know it is. And it's in me and it's got to come out. But there's a timing of, of the fact that,
um, when things are supposed to happen. And so that's something that we can do is we're like,
we always give it back to God. Whenever God gives us something, we always give it back to him.
And then we let it die. And then he, he multiplies it. And then he says, okay, he invites us. Okay.
Now's the time to take it up and now to partner with me and to do it. But God always likes to
be the initiator. And, um, the other thing that I wanted to say about that is that you are so
precious to him that it's not always other people and how, uh, and how you can help other people.
That's important. So my point is that if God has given you this to you to like minister to
these people and to, and to, you know, be used as the voice that they hear that quickens their
spirit to all of a sudden wake them up. And all of a sudden they realize what on earth is going on
that, that God wants to make sure that you are, are healthy, whole and protected.
And that he's loved on you enough where, uh, where you, where you've experienced
the goodness of God, because you're worth that time and attention as opposed to him saving you
and like, okay, now, now you're saved, you know, meaning like save us out of a situation and heal
us and whatever. Okay. Now, now, now go back in. We're important enough to him where sometimes
there's amount of time in there where he's just like, okay, I, this book, you're allowed to focus
just on you. I've given you the seed for later time, whatever. I'm not saying this about your
situation. I'm just giving you ideas that you can take back to the Lord and ask, okay, well,
what season am I in, in the process? And, um, and just see, you know, what settles down in your
spirit where you, you're, you sense, okay, God is saying that his love and how much, how precious
that I am to him and how he operates out of me and flows out of me to other people. What season
of in cycle of manifestation I'm in at that moment where thing, because there's a lot of concealment
before there's a revealing of who it is that we are. Does that make sense? And I don't know what
season that you're in. I'm just giving you a whole bunch of ideas. And then there's,
there's all these different points along that path, including, including just going out and,
and all of that. Um, and, uh, that you could be anywhere in there and I don't know where you are.
And you could ask, you could just ask the Lord, you can see what resonates in your spirit
and ask him to show you, um, that, cause the important thing is again, where all of these
questions are coming from get peace in our spirit before our God, Lord, where am I supposed to be?
What am I supposed to do? What's the balance, you know, like, Lord, I go in so far and then
everything's fine until I hit a certain point. Like why Lord is I feel a pull to go more,
but I feel caught and I feel like I have to pull back in. Why do I feel caught?
You know, why do I, why do I have to pull back? Why do I hit a wall?
You know, and you might say, well, it's because the season you're in, you're in such and such a
season, or, you know, I don't know. Um, I'm just giving you ideas because again,
operating from a place of rest, there's not a formula. It's in a relationship.
And, and I don't know what yours is, but those are just those, I just wanted to give you some
ideas that you take back to the Lord and ask them about, find out, you know, where it is that you
are. Um, so yeah. Yeah, no, that's so interesting. It's, it's amazing how you can actually feel that
spiritual force pulling you in a direction. That's not God. And I feel like I've got a bit of a safety
net with April and this other girl, Amy, who we talk about it. And April's kind of the one in
charge of she's been called more to like, sharing it with the people that are still in it. Whereas
I have, you know, I've given her all the information, I've introduced her to everything.
And she, you know, she's bolder, she's in a place where she's got a lot more healing, whereas I,
I still have a little bit of the trauma. So it's like, maybe, maybe that's where my portion
ends. Maybe my portion ends with giving her everything she needs to be able to share it
with the people she's still in contact with, because
when I get too far I do I feel this darkness pulling me in and I just want to get back into
the light but the darkness kind of feels like it's enveloping me a little bit and I'm like but I can
get out of this in a second right so yeah yeah it does yeah it's kind of like you said it's so
powerful but I think you're right like taking it just kind of figuring out where that balance is
and I mean I realized I couldn't watch another documentary that just came out about it on one
of the girls called seduced and I was like I know I can't watch that one I can't because I'm yeah it's
not healthy for me anymore and I'm good so that was good it's just almost like the mental yeah
yeah it's almost like the mental or like mental emotional level where I'm like you know you just
want to make a difference in the world you want to help people see I know and but I also want to
live a healthy life and be like in the light more than in the darkness which is good that's wonderful
because for for so many people they believe that their healing lies in learning more about the
darkness is not true it's not true and so once we discover how beautiful the light is we're like I
just want to be a light and that just chases out the darkness and fascinatingly fascinatingly you
know people talk about oh you need to learn about the darkness in order to know what to avoid that
is absolutely 100% not true we if we know the light we will recognize the darkness we can
recognize the darkness in something we have never ever been exposed to and suddenly we've been we're
exposed to it and we're like I don't know you know I don't have to understand that world but
that is not light so we we can focus so much on the truth and so much on the light
that we we recognize the darkness by default as opposed to because God says you know be as
innocent as does and as wise as serpents he wants us to be innocent you know that there and and
remember that uh you know in operating according to the tree of life instead of according to the
tree of the knowledge of an evil and operating according to the tree of life we don't have to
know the difference between good and evil we don't have to know all of the list of good and
all the list of evil we operate out a relationship with God and and manifest and and reflect to the
character which is always good so therefore we always do the good thing and by default we
recognize any that we know God so well and we know his character so well we we can easily recognize
the darkness and without ever having to learn about it and remember that if what satan tempted
Eve with was wouldn't you like to know the difference between good and evil that was a
temptation so in other words she didn't know and God didn't find it necessary she didn't know and
she didn't and she hadn't sinned why because she's operating on the character of a character
of God operating according to the tree of life so I love it I love how you said that that is
absolutely right there's and now if God calls us to you know gives us the grace to learn about
something to be exposed to something that's fine once we know it and once we see it it's um you
know there's uh there's an accountability there for having learned information and been exposed to
it um and so there are things I just don't learn about well I just don't want to learn about you
know the the the world of the deep dark secrets of of satan in fact it was commended who was it
who was commended for that one of the one of the churches um it was commended for was it
Thyatira I believe um was um there was uh people in the church of Thyatira that um that Paul
commended for not knowing the or not Paul Jesus and in the in his letter to the angel of Thyatira
said you know commended them for not knowing the deep dark secrets of satan so in other words we
were just we can be innocent so um but there's people who are called to to learn and be exposed
to certain pieces of information you know um in order to help certain areas and free certain
people in the world but the lord uses all kinds of things so well I just wanted to mention that
we don't have to yeah I was going to say I think he he allowed me to learn a lot about
yeah cults and narcissists and sociopaths and all of that lovely stuff he so when what and it and
now I don't need to like really know much about it anymore because I could probably write a book
on it at this point but I but then when you said that that verse about being wise as a serpent
right innocent as deaths and wise as a serpent what like what would that mean then like wise
as a serpent well you know just just um or wisdom it's um it's being able to uh being able to discern
because a discernment is very closely
linked with wisdom. But discernment is not the same thing as the knowledge of good and evil.
Discernment is, you remember how God talks about the discernment between spirits,
that it's good for us to discern between spirits. For us, again, being able to understand and
discern, okay, what is reflective of the character of God versus the default of like,
this is absolutely not. So it's important for us to be cunning. In other words, we're not naive.
So it's important for us to be innocent, but not naive and kind of ditzy and just kind of like,
just going around. No, God's like, no, no, no. It's twofold. Allow yourself to be discerning
of things, but be innocent as opposed to being embittered or constantly looking for a devil
under every rock or whatever. No, no, no. Be discerning of them. Be able to recognize them
because you're so, you know my character. Be discerning of them, but you're innocent.
There's no agreement with it. There's no, what's the word? Immersement in it.
Oh, gotcha. Okay. Thank you. Thanks for that. I appreciate it.
You're welcome. Hey, Irene, you're on here. Everybody. Irene is, is our newest member.
The reason you don't know that is because it was only 15 minutes ago or whatever that was.
So it was fast. I had, I sent her this link on her message. Just like she joined early.
She joined and I was like, oh my goodness, it's Thursday night. We're getting on our Thursday night
call. Here's a Zoom link. So I don't even know if she's accepted the invite to the group yet,
but here she is. So anyway, say hi to Irene. Thank you. I really enjoyed her.
And hey, Elizabeth, good to see you. And I think that, who else is in here? Linda. Hey, Linda.
I guess you're back in Missouri now, maybe. Are you back from your long trip?
I am back in Missouri and in quarantine with one of my guys who spent an entire day with
his grandmother who two days later ended up with a COVID positive test. So
I get to be going from freedom to 24 seven staffing.
I'm sorry. Guys, Linda's Wonder Woman. I'm sorry. I hope it goes smooth and well and develops very
good close relationships with the guy that you're staffing, that you're taking care of.
Literally, I'm on one. Yeah, I'm on one floor and he's on another floor. So I just have to
be recording his stuff. So I am not in context with him at all. It's literally too. Yeah. So
he's, he doesn't even have it that we believe, but we're just making sure that we're separate.
So it's like it is, it is time alone logging. Oh, wow. Okay. Well, you get special time for the
Lord and quiet forced rest, even though you can't work for money. I know it's time for it.
Yeah. Well, they are really having to learn how to, how to, how to get along and, you know,
make this, make decisions and to handle the farm on their own. Right. Or the resort.
Well, yeah, I mean, but that's, what's crazy about it is because our goal is to make sure that
everything runs without me, but then when these kinds of situations come up and we have to have
somebody, it makes the most sense for it to be me, to be literally quarantined with somebody
because I'm not committed to any other house. So it's, it's the catch 22. I'm, I don't think
anything's going to happen, but I'm the one who expendable and I can do what I do best.
Expendable. And I can do what I do by my telephone. So I just get to do it
from a different house than my own. That's right. There you go. There you go.
Let's get to see you or have you on, I can't see you. I see you and Greg on there.
So, I'm sorry, Linda, go ahead.
No, I, so my whole thing is I didn't know whether or not there's a series of things that we're
supposed to do to be caught up. So in the, you know, I'm still going through them slowly,
but I haven't gotten through all the ones that you already have done of your teaching. So it's like
that it's, it's, I'm working on it at three weeks and it's still a slow pace.
Well, that, that's fine. So, you know, it really is all, all, all that.
that I recommend to people to do is just that they,
that they just kind of learn to like shift
very intentionally their mindset of operating
and approaching life according to strife
and according to knowledge of good and evil
from that into rest.
And so, you know, however y'all need to do it,
you know, watch the videos at your own pace, do whatever.
I make suggestions and I make recommendations
off of what I've noticed has worked really well
for other people, but it's not a magic formula.
And the important thing is it's a relationship,
meaning that it doesn't work
according to a specific structure.
Do it, feel free.
So my problem is I was really good being able to do it.
Yeah, so when I was in California
and didn't have any responsibilities,
I could really operate out of rest with no problem.
It was wonderful, I'm thinking, wow, I've got this.
And then I came back home and had all the responsibilities
and I'm like, I don't got this.
Yep, I know, then we have our triggers.
But the wonderful thing about that,
you know, the wonderful thing about what it is that you had
is it helps us recognize, oh, this is what it feels like.
This is what it's like.
And so it's like, okay, I can do this.
So in other words, it makes it a bit more familiar.
And then God introduces triggers again.
And then we're like, okay, how do I do that with this?
And then we're like, okay, okay, now I got this.
And then a different trigger.
So I can't tell you the number of times
that I have thought and I've heard it from other people
that, wait a minute, I was doing so good
until such and such happened.
Why does such and such have to happen?
And I'm like, that's a lot,
which is not what you're saying,
but I'm just saying that's what it reminds me of.
And yeah, it's this triggers, like we get it.
And it's wonderful because again,
it shows us this is what it's like.
It gives us, and it's not an anchor point,
but it makes it more familiar.
So we know what it is that we're looking for.
So, and now we just like make the challenges.
God challenges us, makes it a lot harder,
but he's like, okay, now we're gonna,
yeah, this area right here,
you don't usually operate and rest in this area.
So this is what we're gonna trigger.
So, but I'm excited for you that you had that time
and you had a good extended amount of time.
So that's good.
Yeah.
Yes, four days in 107 degree weather
followed by four days at the beach in Oceanside.
So yeah, definitely, definitely, definitely a vacation.
Yes, yes.
That's lovely.
I'm so glad that you had that, man.
So does anyone have anything else?
I don't even know what time it is.
What time?
Oh, there we go.
So does anyone have anything else
that they were thinking about or questions or anything?
Let me see if I have anything in the chat that I've missed.
So nothing.
Oh my word, y'all are gonna make me work.
You make me have to think,
what have I been talking to people about?
You know what I always do?
I'd love to hear from you.
I don't know if it's a question specifically,
but like with, I guess with the state of,
the world right now and like all the knowing
and the encouragement and the victory that we're coming from
but also like with the election around the corner
and all the things going on,
like how are you staying in rest?
Like, has it changed at all in this season
and the state of the world?
Like with all of the things, unknowns and whatnot,
are you having to be more intentional
in the way that you're thinking and declaring
and spending time even maybe slowing down with the Lord
or versus being so busy?
Are there any things that have changed for you
or had to be more intentional?
Is there a way that we can really be at rest
with all of the anxieties of life?
Anxieties of life?
Are you talking about like politically and socially
or are you talking about just individually
like anything that we're going on in life?
I mean, I know it's the same question.
Yeah, I think that's like always there.
The individual stuff is always there
so it's definitely included
but adding to that, everything going on in the shift,
especially like the shift that we're in
in the body of Christ and the leaving the old behind
and stepping into the new
and kind of coming out of the wilderness season.
and then also the state of the world at the same time,
like all of it at once.
So exciting, but it's also like,
we're kind of being hidden and prepared, you know,
we like for such a time as this,
but then in a sense we're supposed to speak out
and start using our voices.
And then it's like discerning how to stay
and rest through all of that.
Mm-hmm.
Well, we are, again, God provides the increase
and then he teaches us how to govern it.
So my point is that we, yes, we partner with the Lord,
but there's nothing for us to be afraid of.
So I'm not worried about who wins the election
because they're not my savior.
They can't fix the world.
They can't fix people's hearts.
And that's the really,
now, it doesn't mean that,
oh, well, it doesn't matter who wins and dah, dah, dah.
I mean, we're sure, you know,
everyone needs to vote for who it is
that they believe will bring, you know,
what they believe reflects the value of, you know,
their values, you know, according to which we've all focused,
we've all formed our values
based on what it is that we believe the Lord values.
So that being said, you know, we then, we just do that.
But as far as the outcome, God is going to,
God is in control of the outcome.
Yes, we partner with him in it.
But my point is that there's nothing to fear.
They can't fix anything anyway.
In other words, they can't save the world
is what I'm saying.
They can't save the world.
That's our God, and our God is still sovereign,
and our God can still protect us,
and our God can still provide for us.
The government does not.
If we're talking specifically about the political climate,
it doesn't matter who's the president,
doesn't matter who's in Congress,
doesn't matter who, you know,
because we're voting for a whole bunch of stuff.
It doesn't matter even who's in, you know,
our state or local government.
You know, it's always God who's our provision.
It's the same principle as the fact that
God is our provision, our provision is not money.
And God is our protection, our protection is not money.
So when God provides for and protects us,
and then he then manifests that provision
and then protection, it doesn't always manifest as money.
It'll manifest in a variety of ways.
Again, as an example that I've given before,
the idea that, well, if, you know, if we think,
oh, well, I need, I'm out of food, and I need food to eat.
Well, we either think, okay,
God's gonna either give me money to buy food,
or he's gonna give me the food directly,
and Lord, I can see either one of those as provision.
But also within God's wheelhouse of provision
is he just makes us not hungry.
He makes our body not actually need it.
So in other words, God is the one that provides for us,
so we don't have to be concerned that,
well, are we gonna be set, the set against,
are things gonna happen, is my world gonna collapse,
is what it is that I've worked for going to be destroyed,
if so-and-so or so-and-so gets elected,
you know, if the world changes because a different,
you know, because the, you know, United States Congress
has this particular majority
versus this particular majority.
I mean, that does not have any bearing
on our protection, our provision,
and our identity as sons and kings of God.
We're sent and put here on earth to overcome,
to bring freedom, to have, to bring freedom to the earth.
And yes, we can manifest that and manifest our choices
and our will in the earth
that we believe reflects the character of God.
In those that we vote for,
and in those that we collectively as a unit choose,
we are going to decide to elect, you know,
because the majority decides who they're gonna elect,
specifically, it's the Electoral College,
but you know what I'm saying.
You know, so there is that.
So I'm not dismissing the value of that.
I'm saying that we're not threatened by any of it.
So therefore, if we're not threatened by the results,
because our identity is in Christ,
and anything that is,
and anything else is below Jesus's feet,
and therefore, if we're in Jesus,
then it's below our feet,
and therefore, it's not a threat.
So it doesn't matter.
It doesn't matter what's going on
in the social political climate.
I've actually found myself in my travels
in some very interesting,
political situations, completely unrelated to the election, but related to other things that have
been very, honestly, I've encountered a lot of things that were just personally attacking,
and I just had to find rest in it. I mean, it was like, I wasn't looking for it, it was coming at
me. I was like, well, I just have to let it go. It's all okay. It's not a threat to me. It's just
fine. I have to remember who it is that I am. So, just being general and out there,
it doesn't bother me and it doesn't shift my rest. I'm not worried, I'm not concerned.
But even when I've been personally, I don't want to say turned on, but like turned against,
then yes, my intention to be in rest has been challenged. And I did, I shifted into unrest
because I was being challenged. And just some things were coming against me. I'm like, okay,
Ashley, and things were coming up in me. And I'm just like, why? Why does this have to be an issue?
And then I had to take ownership and responsibility of what was going on inside and bring myself
back to rest. And so that, it was a bunch of social political stuff that's being stirred up
right now. So, I did have to make a choice about that. I don't know. You were asking personally
what it is that, how it is that I've been dealing with it. And that's only because I have to choose
that my identity is in Christ and that God is my provision, my protection, my identity, that I can
expect to be loved, liked, and comforted. That I don't look to something outside, whether it
be the government, whether it be relationships, whether it be finances, whether it be business,
whatever. I can't look to any of those things. This system here, the tree of knowledge of an
evil, I cannot look at any of those things to provide things for me. I'm not saying that I'm
not triggered sometimes, because I just told you, I do get triggered, but I recognize what it is.
And I have to, and it's in part of myself. It's an old record, an old lie that I was believing
that that was being triggered, that when it came up, I had to overcome it. See, like Linda was
talking about, I was perfectly fine. I was perfectly fine until I was attacked. When I was attacked,
that thing came up in me. Like, no, Ashley, it doesn't matter, you know, what it is that you
used to believe. It doesn't matter that you're being triggered. The problem is not what came
at you. The problem is never the outside. The problem is never other people. It's this thing
that came up in me as a response. And I now have to overcome that. And that's what I was sent here
on earth to do, to let this thing know that it is safe and to bring freedom to this thing and
to overcome it and to tell it the truth and to expel the lie. And so as I overcome that more
and more and more, you know, and choose to shift into that rest, because that's ultimately what we
have to do. And we have to, all of everything that I'm describing to you, what it is that I'm doing
successfully and unsuccessfully, it's all a choice. I'm either choosing, I'm either choosing
the tree of life or I'm choosing the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. I'm choosing,
believing that, choosing fear. I'm choosing love or I'm choosing fear. It's always a choice. So if
I can choose this one, it means I can't have the power to choose this one. So anyway, I don't want
it to sound like I don't, I'm not triggered. No, I have been triggered and I've been triggered
recently. And it was very challenging for me to do it to the point where I almost cried.
So at what point do you get to be Jesus with the money changers driving them out of the temple?
At what point do you get to be? Well, what they were doing is, so that's very interesting.
You remember that Jesus got really, really upset a few different times. And whenever he got very
upset, including at Peter, it was, and whenever he said things like very extreme to the Pharisees,
whenever he was driving the money changers out and whenever he talked to Peter and he said,
get thee behind me, Satan. And then when he was also talking and he said, it is better that a
millstone is tied around their neck and thrown into the sea. All of those situations where Jesus
got very mad and used very extreme language and like went after people and called them vipers,
et cetera, is when they were promoting things. How would I say that? They were,
that's the word. They were trying to bring things in between other people and their God,
because God always takes separation between him and his children very, very seriously.
So whenever they were trying to Lord any like law.
or anything. They were trying to keep God's children from their father and say,
Hey, look, but like impose like judgments, impose rules and laws that their father did not require.
And they were, they, they were making them to follow certain regulations in order to
have access to them or make them believe that they had to do that in order to have access and
access and access to them. Got Jesus had no patience and he got mad, including the money
and changes changers. It was when people are trying to drive a wedge and a separation between
God and his people. Did that make sense? Well, it makes sense. I just didn't know what
options you had to, cause it's like, I don't get respected sometimes until I say,
this is the way it's going to be. And they know they've crossed a boundary line.
I don't like how I feel. I mean, so it can be with my grandkids not listening to me and
grandma bear has to yell, or it can be with my staff pushing areas where they know they're
supposed to be clocking in. And all of a sudden they didn't get a paycheck and they want me to
pay them because they didn't clock in for two weeks. So, I mean, at what point, I mean, I,
I feel, so I went for two weeks in Florida, California, totally peaceful. Everything was
wonderful. And I get back home and I feel my, what do you mean? You can't clock in for two
weeks and you think I need to pay you because you didn't get your paycheck. It's like,
you know, I mean, why aren't you stopping fighting with your, I mean, that's what I'm
saying. At what point, how are you supposed to function in love and not be stone rolled over?
Okay. So that's very interesting. It is when, oh, wow. Okay. So try and figure out how to,
how to answer this succinctly. Okay. Kind of like a, a drill sergeant. I've heard it described like
this before. And you, you may have heard the same sermon, so it's a great example. So I'm going to,
I'm going to use it. Chris, Chris uses this example. And that's the first thing that popped
into my head is the, is the way to describe this is, is a, like when a drill sergeant is,
is giving instruction, he gets in their face and he's yelling while a general, he just sits there
and tells people what to do very quietly because he knows who he is and he creates, and, and there's
a very distinct identity that he sits in that everyone recognizes it based off of who he knows
himself to be. And they respond according to he, who he knows himself to be, as opposed to him
trying to convince someone else of who he is. Does that make sense? And they'll respond and
they'll respond accordingly. Do you see the connection between what we're talking about?
Yeah, I've just been too graceful. So in my day, I would have spanked a kid that didn't listen to me
as, I mean, so it's like discipline for my children, totally different than discipline
for my grandkids. So, yes, yes, exactly. And, well, there's something else I was going to say
about that, but we can, there, there is a way to, to, again, it's with, it's with intention,
it's putting on our own oxygen mask. First is, is us aligning with what, with our particular values
and, and being, and being in it, just painting this in very simplistic terms, being uncompromising
and then interacting accordingly. And then not, and then there, there is a way in which spiritually
there is a, they'll, they get it. And, and then like even children get it without us having to,
like, like even yell or whatever, because the yelling is sometimes, and I'm just using yelling
as an example, because that's one that you use, we can use something else. But it's where we're,
the reason that we do that is we have found ourselves violating our own sense of our,
of what it is that we, of our, we've found ourselves violating or allowing our own value
system to be violated. But if we don't allow our own system to be violated, we never have to
get, we don't usually, not always, we don't usually have to get to that point. And I know that from
having worked, having been a teacher and worked with children who, man, a lot of these kids were
kicked out of their schools. And so I had to work with them and then they, I'm telling you what they
would want to push boundaries. And then I, and so I know, I noticed that I'm just using them as an
example. I've done it with other kids too, but I, but I noticed that if I didn't allow my, my value
system that I determined for myself, and then I determined in the classroom was the way it was
going to be, if I didn't allow it.
to be violated. I never got upset to the point where I had to raise my voice. I did have
to come to Jesus meeting with them, but I didn't have to have to do that because I was
because I was strong enough in myself and then the world responded accordingly. It's
very weird how that works. But anyway, I know that I'm talking all this in very simplistic
terms, but it all everything always comes back to our identity. And I noticed that in
leadership in in my business as well when I would when that people when I would when
I knew and finally recognized who it is that I was, they begin to respond to it without.
And I noticed that I had more control with more quiet than once I knew who it is that
I was. And I always interacted like that. Then when I had been trying to figure out
who I was, then I had to use more force and more, more. Then thing in order to get something
done. So everything goes back to our identity, kind of like, you know, it's the same principle
by which the spirits, spiritual principalities interact with us. As soon as they recognize
that we know that we're a son of God, they leave. That is all that they need. We don't
even need to sometimes address them. All of all sometimes that they need to see is that
we remember who it is that we are. And they know that by law, by spiritual law, they they
have no right. And so in that those are spirits, let alone souls, you know, of people who aren't
even as as who aren't even as spiritually aware of all of the spiritual laws, principalities
are creation, including human souls who respond to a son of God who knows who he is and who
talks like that. So the nice thing is that we can control our environment a bit and control
other people, at least in their interaction with us by shifting ourselves, which is the
only thing we have control over is ourselves, nobody else. And so if we do that, it'll affect
it. Now, it's a process to get here. But it is wild. It is absolutely wild how people
change when we change. Again, I've watched this with children. I've watched this in in business
and with a lot of people underneath me in business. So anyway, I know it's not like a
formula. But that that's what I was that I was thinking of. So you can see that resonates in
your spirit may not. I don't think you'll ever give us a formula because that's not about
relationship. Yeah, that's right. But you'd be surprised. I get asked for a lot of a lot
of questions. And I'm just like, Okay, you do know that that's a formula, right? And I don't
talk about for us. But I'll tell you a formula just so that you'll understand. Okay, here's the
formula. Okay, now here's rest is that you get to choose which one. But yeah, I try not to talk
about workloads too much. Yeah, because I used to do that. And so I used to talk all about all
those formulas. So I'm dead. What time is it? Is it? Sorry. Oh, wow. It's almost time. Is there
anything that anyone wanted to bring up before we get off? Because it is? It's pretty much
on time. But let me just see if there was something else that someone had.
Yeah. So everybody good. I'm sorry that we missed yet last week. And that I was able to do it this
week. I should be able to do it next week. I have no idea where I'm going to be next week.
But we'll figure it out. Would you believe I'm supposed to be on Washington DC on election day?
So of all places in the country. So my cousin who works for United States representative said,
I said, Hey, I think I'm going to be in town. He said, Don't go near the White House or the mall.
Got it. I'll go to Arlington. So anyway. All right. Well, it's good to get to see everybody.
So nice that you jumped on here. I mean, I was so thrilled that you were able to jump on last minute.
Welcome, Irene. You're on mute. I'm sorry.
Yeah. Are you able to unmute yourself, Irene?
Yes. Yeah. I always mute everyone and then they have to unmute themselves.
I appreciate it. Conversations are very in depth. So yeah.
I know. Well, we talked about rest from a variety of ways, a variety of perspectives,
because rest is just a.
way in which we're supposed to operate in life
from a totally different mindset,
understanding we can just let go
as opposed to working so hard for everything.
And so it's, a lot of these discussions are kind of like,
okay, well, how do I,
where does rest fit in in this odd situation over here?
And then we suddenly realize,
oh, okay, I didn't realize that that's actually striving.
And so it's something that we're all,
including myself, learning to offer again.
So it'll make more sense when you go through that,
through the sessions.
So anyway, yeah, if you read that,
the longer message that I sent you,
that'll explain what it is you can go through.
And so always feel free to reach out
and ask questions if you have any.
For me, the take-home message
is when you change, people change.
So that's like, if there's anything I got today,
that's like, that's good.
The energy which you exude
and just how the dimensions,
the interactions change accordingly,
that's a good place to start.
Yes, and our changing, thankfully,
is due to the fact that we already are the thing
and we're just learning to manifest it.
So we're unlearning all of the things that we've learned
that have hidden who it is that we are.
So it's basically, we're removing fig leaves,
is all we're doing.
So we're not learning new things,
we're removing all of the lives
that have hidden who it is that we really are.
So the nice thing is we don't have to become something,
we're not becoming something.
We already, well, you could word it this way,
you could say we already are the thing we're becoming.
We're learning to just,
this is working out our salvation.
So anyway, yeah.
Awesome, thank you so much, everyone.
Welcome, sister.
Welcome, Irene.
Thank you so much.
Thank you.
It's so good to see new sisters
and it's just like, I'm excited.
You're in for a treat.
Oh my goodness, see girls, you don't even know yet.
And also, Ashley, if you end up in DC,
will you like just pop on and do a quick live for us
or a photo or something?
If you end up in DC on election day,
I wanna see your face.
I wanna see you.
Okay, all right, that's a good idea.
I'll try to remember to do that.
Okay, if you can, no pressure.
Okay, I might have to go to the White House
especially for that.
I'm just kidding.
Just for my rest intensive.
Well, it's good to see all of y'all.
You stay safe.
Yes, exactly, exactly.
And healthy.
Yes, stay safe, everybody.
Bye.
See you, God bless.
Good night.