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Kathy and staff.

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I am good.

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Very good.

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Forgive the cough.

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People have had to listen to it all conference.

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But it's getting better.

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I'm very grateful.

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How is everybody doing?

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April!

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Long time no see.

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It's your first time on our group call.

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I'm glad you're here.

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I'm part of the group.

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Part of the community.

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Hey, Sylvia.

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Hey!

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We have some new people.

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Hopefully Tammy will be able to get on.

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Sylvia is a friend of Diane.

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She's in the group.

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Tammy is Natalie Lawson's mother.

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Natalie is also in the group.

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I got to meet all of these people in person.

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I'm so excited.

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Good night.

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Good night.

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Good night.

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Good night.

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Good night.

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Good night.

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Good night.

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Because we have new people in the group,

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I will mention the housekeeping rules.

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I sometimes forget to when new people join.

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I will do my best to provide answers.

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For people to ask questions.

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I will do my best to provide answers.

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Just to be aware,

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when people are asking questions,

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they are asking me for my perspective

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on some things.

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I will do my best to provide answers.

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I just tell them what it is I believe.

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I ask that people do not provide

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their feedback.

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Their advice to someone.

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On either a post or on here.

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Unless someone specifically asks for the group's input.

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I will do my best to provide answers.

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I will do what I need to do in the post.

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A lot of times,

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people will say this is open to anybody.

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I do that in order to provide people

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the opportunity to control

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their level of vulnerability.

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Vulnerability,

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especially in what we are learning here

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I do like to provide people

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the opportunity

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to baby step themselves into it a bit.

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Not have to expose themselves

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and be vulnerable all the way

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at the beginning.

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They can choose.

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They are more likely to shift faster that way.

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I just wanted to make sure

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that was helpful for everyone to understand.

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I do also have

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everybody's microphones muted

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when they are not talking.

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That is because

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sometimes people do have background noise.

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Even if you don't have background noise,

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what we have noticed is

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on these recordings that there is feedback

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for whoever's talking, that there's feedback

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from the other person's computer or phone,

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and then it creates an issue in the recording.

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So anyway, so if you have a question,

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you just unmute yourself, and then when it's about time

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for when someone's question and answer is wrapping up,

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and then I know that the next person has a question.

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The other thing is, if you want to mention,

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if you want to message something, excuse me,

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if you want to message something in the chat

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that you have a question, or if you have somewhere,

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I don't know how, somewhere on either the phone

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or on the computer, you can raise your hand.

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I don't know how, but some people have found it in there.

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So you can also do that because I am notified

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when someone raises their hand that they have a question,

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and then I'll know which next person to go to.

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So anyway, just FYI, how all of that works.

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So, oh, Sylvia, you found it.

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Do you have a question, or were you just testing it?

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You're just testing it?

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I don't even know where it is.

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Someone's gonna need to show me where it is.

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Hey, Linda, you're right down the road.

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We're feet apart.

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We're in spitting distance.

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So I'm in, I'm still at the conference center.

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I mean, meaning like the resort.

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So I'm still here at the lodge.

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Linda very kindly invited me to stay,

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which was a huge benefit, a huge gift,

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because I literally stayed in bed all day in my pajamas

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the day after the conference.

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And my sister will tell you that is not normal,

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even when I have the flu.

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So I was so tired.

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I was so tired.

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So, and even then I was trying to start getting back

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to people because people were still,

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were already emailing me or messaging me

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and about needing something after the conference

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or wanting to tell me a testimony or whatever.

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So I still have a list of people that even on Thursday

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that I'm still trying to get through.

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So I've been able to rest a bit

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and been able to start hearing some things

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from the Lord about,

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and already be able to feel in the spirit

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since I'm quiet and I don't have people around me

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into what else that he wants,

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where else that he and I might start going and moving

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and started to have some other ideas,

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which is very exciting.

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And it is, as I mentioned,

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God has graciously provided me with Linda's help.

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She connected me with some people

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and who were here at the conference

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who have very kindly chosen

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to offer to take Dawson for me,

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my little dog that I've had to,

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that the Lord has said I needed to find a new home for

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after nine years,

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because there are things that he wants me to do.

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I'm gonna start traveling internationally.

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I think I've mentioned that to y'all before

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and obviously taking a dog like that is a bit of a bit,

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there's a lot of red tape.

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And so he just said that I'm just moving

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and he's got new things that he wants us to do.

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And that meant that he just had another home for Dawson.

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And I honestly could not imagine picking a better home

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than the one that he dropped in my lap.

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It is abundance beyond measure.

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So I'm grateful for that and spending this time here,

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having this time here in Missouri,

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because these people live only an hour and a half away

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is giving me the opportunity

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to have like the best scenario possible,

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which is knowing where she's gonna go.

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Then I get to go drop her off at the home.

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So I get to actually see the environment that she'd be in.

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So I can just picture it,

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whenever I'm missing her or anything.

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And then it's also giving me an opportunity

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to process having to let her go.

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So I can still have her,

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instead of kind of like the shock of like,

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only where she's gone or like dropping her off

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and then having to drive off.

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So, oh good, Alicia finally got in.

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So just all the way around, tremendous gift.

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Thank you, Linda.

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And it's even beyond what I'm talking,

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what I'm describing here.

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But she just offered it to me on Sunday

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and I was like, oh my word, that's a blessing.

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I didn't know where I was gonna go tomorrow,

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but I just knew I had to get out of Dodge.

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And so I was gonna pick a place and take off.

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So this way I've been able to start healing

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from my allergies too.

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So anyway, so yes, I'm still here

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on the swinging couch in the lodge.

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Okay, hey Alicia, I'm glad you finally got in.

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Because you were saying you couldn't get in

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and I was like, I don't know, I just click on the list.

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There's something about, if you're the leader, log in,

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but then I finally noticed a little click down here,

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join as an attendee.

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I guess that's new.

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Yeah, OK, perfect.

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I'm glad you're here, yay.

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OK, so to start us out, does anyone have a question?

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Excuse me.

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Anyone have a question to start us out with?

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Maybe you watch the conference or attend to the conference,

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you have a question, or maybe you

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are running into something, understanding,

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trying to learn how to shift into rest into something new,

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and you're struggling in a particular area,

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you're wondering how to apply this,

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or you ran into your own resistance

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and didn't know how to fish past it,

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or how to recognize its resistance,

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or how to let it go.

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Does anyone have anything?

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April, yay, there you are.

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Alana's prompting me, say, come on, go, go, go.

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Because this is really going to be really awesome for her,

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and sometimes April just needs a little bit of a nudge.

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I really, OK.

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I've gotten to visit with April, and I just really enjoy her,

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and enjoy her and her perspective.

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And so I would imagine that she'd have a very good question.

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She does.

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Well, Alana, you can help me.

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Just tell me what I'm supposed to ask.

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So one of the things that Alana and I were talking about today

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was stepping into being something instead

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of trying to be something.

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I was wondering if you could speak to that, and how to,

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I don't know, for me, effort's so

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hard to be kind and gracious and forgiving.

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And I'll just frame it a little bit with my husband,

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when I already have a preconceived story,

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or, oh my gosh, it's going to be so much efforting and hard

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work, and will the payoff be there for me

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if I can pull it off anyway?

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So I don't know if you need more information,

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but really, it's about just being those things instead

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of trying to be things.

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Yeah, so the thing is, and I've actually

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been talking to people a lot about this the past week

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or so, because I had private consultations with people

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while they were here in the conference,

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and I ended up having to address some of this,

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that there are things that we want to do.

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So whenever we're wanting to do it,

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and we don't understand why we're finding it so hard,

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hey, Tammy, I'm wondering why we're finding it all so hard.

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And the key, actually, is to first choose

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that there's no shame and no condemnation,

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because it says in Romans 8, 1, there

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is therefore now no condemnation for those

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who are in Christ Jesus.

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And we all say it, and we all tell ourselves

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and other people that, and we all just know that, oh,

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thankfully, that's how I came to the Lord,

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because there's no condemnation.

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But we don't understand that continues.

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That's our new existence, is there is no condemnation.

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The old man has died.

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The new man lives, and the new man has never sinned.

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The new man has never sinned because, let me pull this out.

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The new man has never sinned because the new man

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is born of spirit.

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So soul and body, right here, there you go.

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So we are spirit, our seed of our identity

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is in our spirit, even though we're also soul and body

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and it's all unified.

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So the old man operated thinking its identity

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was in the soul or the body, and it's subject to corruption.

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And it's not one with, and it wasn't one with Christ.

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Our spirit is one with Christ.

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And anyway, so that means that if we're one with Christ,

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we are everything that Christ is,

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and we're nothing that He's not.

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So there is no condemnation.

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This is our seed of our actual identity,

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and there's no condemnation.

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and we don't think that there's no condemnation,

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it's like acting as if we think that our identity

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is in our soul, in the metaphysical,

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what we feel, what we think, et cetera,

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or that we're down here in our body.

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It's all about what's happening to me

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in my physical environment, the physical circumstances

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that I'm finding myself in, I'm subject to.

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So anyway, the very important thing is to understand

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that there truly is no condemnation, not just in.

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coming to Christ and being freed and being saved,

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but actually from that point forward,

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there's no condemnation because we're the new man

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and the new man has never sinned.

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So that is our starting point.

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And it's very important that whenever we approach

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a particular situation like, oh my goodness,

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I wonder how I'm gonna be able to do this.

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Am I gonna perform it to par?

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Am I gonna perform it to standards?

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Am I gonna be able to exemplify all the fruits

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of the spirit, love, joy, peace, patience, whatever?

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Am I gonna be able to do it?

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We question it, but the thing is that if we're spirit,

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we already are all those things

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because if we're one with Christ

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and we're everything that he is

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and we have the fruits of the spirit

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because we are spirit, the fruits of the spirit

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are love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness,

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faithfulness and steadfastness and self-control,

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we already are all those things.

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Those things are describing the new man.

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They're describing who we are.

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They're not a list of things that we're supposed

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to work hard for and try to become and try to act like.

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So the trying comes from an old habit

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of thinking that we're the old man,

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that we're subject to corruption,

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that everything requires exertion

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and that we're not new, that we're not a new creation

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and that we're actually still the old man.

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And so that's where all the trying comes in

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because the old man couldn't do it naturally.

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He wasn't it naturally, so he had to try.

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So what we have to do,

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which is what we have to do with everything,

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we have to choose that what God says is true.

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And he says that we're the new man.

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And so whenever we go into a situation,

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it's important that we first choose

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that there is no shame and no condemnation

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and that we already are everything

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that God says that we are.

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And from that place, we can actually be successful

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when we're trying to, I don't know,

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interact with our children

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or we're trying to interact with,

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we're trying to, I don't know,

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do, you know, interact with your spouse.

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Whatever situation you're going into,

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Dawsa, get in your bed.

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Sorry, get in your bed.

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Go on.

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It has to come, in order for it to be successful,

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in order for us to be able to act like that

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in those situations,

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we have to start from the position

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that we already are the thing.

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If we don't, and if we try to get there,

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uh-uh, get in your bed.

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Go on.

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Good girl.

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Up, up.

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Then if we start at it from a root of no shame,

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if we start it from a root of shame and condemnation

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that, oh, I'm not it already

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and I have to try to become it,

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then that's actually creating the very hindrance

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to us being able to do it.

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So if we can try,

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which is what we've been doing our whole lives,

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Dawsa, get in your bed,

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which is what we've been trying to do our whole lives,

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but as we all well know,

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we can hit the mark sometimes and not others.

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And when we do hit the mark,

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dadgum, we have to work 10 times harder.

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We have to work really, really hard to do it.

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And it takes a lot of work.

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It's exhausting.

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And then, yet we have to work hard to forgive.

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We have to work hard to be kind.

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We have to work hard to be loving,

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especially when we're trying to love the unlovable.

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But if we do it out of the spirit,

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choosing first, before we do anything,

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choosing first that whatever it is God says is true,

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then we actually have a platform

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on which to actually see it manifest in reality

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and actually be loving in the situation.

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Be patient because it's who we are,

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but we have to choose it first

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before we actually get to see it manifest.

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And by choosing the opposite,

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we'll see the opposite manifest

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because goodness, meaning like love,

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patience, the fruits of the spirit

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can't come from a root of shame and condemnation.

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Shame and condemnation has nothing but death

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to give to the situation.

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So just, is that a bit helpful?

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Dasa, Gaby, get in your bed.

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Go on.

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I want Alana to like rescue me, help me.

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But one of the things she was saying to me

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is like, I've been cutting down the tree,

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but I've got to dig up the root of it.

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And so that was like, that reminded me of that.

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And I'm just like, okay, well, how do you do that?

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Yeah.

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What Alana is talking about, and I am very sorry,

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just one second.

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Discipline, DASA, uh-uh, get in your bed.

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Thank you.

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Good girl, good girl.

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I'm gonna miss it.

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Okay, so.

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Okay, so for the root, she's absolutely right,

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because what, you know, cutting down the tree

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is that idea of working really hard for something.

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You're trying to do, because the root system

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is what nourishes and actually what the tree grows from.

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So if we compare it to, you know,

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what you're talking about in a situation,

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what's the actual fruit of the situation?

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What's growing from the root?

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That's the love that you're trying to get.

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That's the patience you're trying to have in the situation,

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you know, whatever.

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So if you're trying to actually deal with this symptom,

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but what is it all supposed to come from?

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It's supposed to come from the fact

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that you already are it,

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not that you're trying to look like you have it,

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or, you know, fake, I don't want to say fake it,

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but sort of kind of fake it.

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It is love and it is patience,

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but it's from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil,

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meaning that we have to work hard for it.

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And when we operate from the tree of the knowledge

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of good and evil,

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it means that we believe that we're separated from the Lord.

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We're separated,

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means that we think we're separated from the Lord.

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We're not, but we think that we are.

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Being, and therefore God is our life source.

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And so if we're cutting off that life source

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and choosing instead to operate off of, okay,

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you know, off of my knowledge, okay,

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what do I know about the Bible?

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What do I know about this?

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What do I know about what it is I should be and should do?

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And in my past experience, how have I drummed up love?

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How have I drummed up patience?

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What are the ways that I've had to logically walk myself

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through this situation to trigger myself to love,

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to trigger myself to remember to endure and to be patient?

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It's a lot of work and all we're getting,

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because all we have to give to this situation

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is ourselves as a life source.

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And if we've cut ourselves off from our own life source,

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which is God, meaning that we think that we were separated.

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We're not ever separated.

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Nothing we can do can ever separate us.

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But if we think that we are,

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and we think we're pulling from our own strength,

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we have nothing to give it but death

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because we've internally cut ourselves off

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from the idea that we're connected to God,

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who's our life source,

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who enables love and patience to be effortless

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when it comes out of him.

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But when it's trying to come out of us

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and we're disconnecting ourselves from our father,

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it's really hard.

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So that's what she's referring to

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with the whole tree and the root.

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The root is the life source.

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And so we have to be in God.

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So the root of what it is that you're trying to pull from,

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what any of us are trying to pull from,

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if we aren't just being, but we're trying,

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the root of that is ourselves

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and that doesn't have any life.

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So everything's like 10 times harder to do from there.

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All of this is mentioned.

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I don't know how far that you've gotten in the videos,

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but what it is I'm talking about,

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I'd recommend going in order.

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But so wherever it is that you've gotten so far,

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the one that I just mentioned about the tree of life

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versus the tree of the knowledge of good and evil,

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that is in, what was it?

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Session five, I think.

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And then the one that I showed you

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about the new man and the old man,

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spirit, soul, and body,

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and the fact that our identity is in our spirit,

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and that's where we can just effortlessly be

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when we live from that place versus trying and doing

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if we think our identity is in our body and our soul,

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that's in session six.

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Then there's also another one,

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I don't remember if it's like session eight

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or session nine that is operating out of this,

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operating in the spirit,

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which is how you take those two sessions

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that I just talked about,

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and then how you actually operate like that,

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how you live just being instead of trying.

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So it goes into more depth.

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So I'm having to cover a lot of material

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that has tremendous amount of context somewhere else,

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and having to cover it really quickly.

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I'm trying to say it in a nutshell.

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So if it's confusing,

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know that there are resources for you to go to

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that will provide more clarity.

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But generally, is this,

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are you getting a sense of the direction?

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Is this at least making sense?

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Yeah, thank you.

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Okay, all right, good.

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You're welcome.

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Does someone have something else?

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I have a question.

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Yes.

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I don't know if this makes sense but is there.

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So, with someone who constantly struggles with being in and out of rest in and out.

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Is there something like a maintenance step if that makes sense of something like I'm thinking if I do the close your eyes and picture Jesus, if I do that more often or is there something that will help me stay on track and not get so sidetracked.

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Um, good question.

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Yes. So, really, everything goes back to us just choosing the Lord.

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Where we have chosen it's so we can learn how to shift in an interest.

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But if we're continuing to.

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And we'll improve.

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But if we're continuing to run into it over and over and over and over again.

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And what it's indicative of is the fact that while we can choose the Lord that we're not growing in intimacy with him.

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Because it's from that place from making ourselves more and more vulnerable with him choosing that we're safe with him, becoming more and more intimate with him, it's from that place that all of the other areas of our life.

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I mean that, I mean that our life in general will start shifting interest more and more and more and it becomes easier for us to choose.

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But understand that when you have chosen in the past, you did choose.

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And you're not having to learn that lesson over again. You're just having to, you're just being introduced to it at a deeper level.

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That same lesson so to speak that same that same opportunity that same invitation into greater measure of love and freedom at a deeper level.

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So be encouraged to know, but as far as how to stop bouncing back and forth so much and oscillating, especially quickly.

524
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You know like man I'm out of man I'm out and it's and it's and it's exhausting means you're constantly be triggered for out.

525
00:27:20.000 --> 00:27:35.000
So, um, the, the, like what you said it really does go back to the root of of exposing ourselves very vulnerably to the Lord, and continuing to invite invite.

526
00:27:35.000 --> 00:27:45.000
How would you put that just developing that relationship within where we're where we're choosing him more and more we're giving up more and more of ourselves we're exposing ourselves more and more.

527
00:27:46.000 --> 00:27:54.000
is the one you talked about the, you know, looking at Jesus and and and allowing him to love you.

528
00:27:54.000 --> 00:28:07.000
There are some other ways that I was talking to someone about recently that might help other people. It's the same thing that is the same exercise but it's a different way of doing it.

529
00:28:07.000 --> 00:28:10.000
It's learning how to be more vulnerable.

530
00:28:10.000 --> 00:28:19.000
And because that is under that that one that we talked about about looking at Jesus. That one.

531
00:28:19.000 --> 00:28:30.000
Get some people for instance can't see him. So, they kind of get hung up on that part, and they needed me to explain what came up with this.

532
00:28:30.000 --> 00:28:33.000
When people needed me to explain.

533
00:28:34.000 --> 00:28:36.000
What am I supposed to do.

534
00:28:36.000 --> 00:28:51.000
How, and so I had to figure out how to explain what that seeing him was triggering me, triggering in me, so that they can understand okay you need to put yourself in this type of position so I came up with another way that you can put yourself in this position.

535
00:28:52.000 --> 00:29:06.000
Really what it is we're doing is we're wanting to, we're needing to be more vulnerable with the Lord. Well, with vulnerability comes intimacy and in a true and there's just in with invulnerability is how we shift into rest.

536
00:29:06.000 --> 00:29:15.000
So, how do we actually do this in a very solid way where we get ourselves back to our identity more and more in our relationship with the Lord as opposed to just simply.

537
00:29:15.000 --> 00:29:18.000
Oh, in this one situation I'm shifting interest.

538
00:29:19.000 --> 00:29:26.000
What I recommend is that you that a way that you can do this, I have done this myself.

539
00:29:26.000 --> 00:29:28.000
And it works.

540
00:29:28.000 --> 00:29:33.000
I did this actually just the other day that you lay down on the ground.

541
00:29:33.000 --> 00:29:41.000
And, excuse me, lay down on the ground, spread eagle.

542
00:29:42.000 --> 00:29:44.000
Because her legs are apart.

543
00:29:44.000 --> 00:29:52.000
And so it's extremely vulnerable I mean it's invulnerable for a man to, but it's extremely invulnerable it makes a woman feel extremely vulnerable.

544
00:29:52.000 --> 00:30:00.000
And so, in your that position, and then you can close your eyes you know how before I talked about the fact that I would sit on the side of my bed and then I would invite Jesus to come sit on the side of my bed.

545
00:30:00.000 --> 00:30:05.200
my bed and I, I'd imagine him looking, looking in the eyes and, and that's how I would do it.

546
00:30:05.200 --> 00:30:09.200
So another way that I've done it is I lie on the ground, spread Eagle. So in other words,

547
00:30:09.200 --> 00:30:16.960
a very vulnerable position. And so I'm, my body is triggered, um, of, of feeling very vulnerable.

548
00:30:16.960 --> 00:30:22.720
So it helps trigger me in my soul, you know, going up, starting down here, starting with the tool

549
00:30:22.720 --> 00:30:28.240
down here to help me move up. If I'm having a hard time accessing this immediately start here,

550
00:30:28.240 --> 00:30:32.640
which is something I can tangibly, um, uh, recognize and grab a hold of easier.

551
00:30:32.640 --> 00:30:37.440
And then it'll help me shift up here. Um, um, anyway, um, and the same thing in the soul,

552
00:30:37.440 --> 00:30:42.160
we have tools that we use in the soul, things like this in order to trigger us to shift up

553
00:30:42.160 --> 00:30:46.720
into our spirit. So that's what we're doing here. Um, anyway, so you do that.

554
00:30:48.000 --> 00:30:53.200
And, uh, and then, and so you just lay there and you're, and you're triggered to feel very

555
00:30:53.200 --> 00:30:59.200
vulnerable and you move that inside and allow that inside kind of like, think of like where it

556
00:30:59.200 --> 00:31:04.800
is you feel especially vulnerable, like in exposing yourself to the Lord or where you feel particularly

557
00:31:04.800 --> 00:31:11.440
stressed when you feel stressed or where you feel, um, when the Lord talks to you and you feel

558
00:31:11.440 --> 00:31:17.600
touched by the Lord, where do you feel it? I feel it here. Some people feel it in their stomach.

559
00:31:17.600 --> 00:31:23.360
I feel it here. So wherever it is that you feel it, kind of imagine this door that you

560
00:31:23.360 --> 00:31:27.520
have closed. And so when you're vulnerable and you're laying there before the Lord,

561
00:31:27.520 --> 00:31:35.280
and you're inviting him to come choose in your mind to, to open that door.

562
00:31:35.280 --> 00:31:40.560
And, and as weird as it might sound, I would recommend making it a double door to make it

563
00:31:40.560 --> 00:31:46.720
open in the middle for whatever reason, at first more vulnerable than doing this. Um, and, um,

564
00:31:48.160 --> 00:31:57.440
so, um, uh, anyway, um, by the way, hi, Diane, good to see you. Um, uh, and no, no worries.

565
00:31:57.440 --> 00:32:03.360
She just sent me a message privately. No worries. Uh, anyway, I would do that. That's what I did

566
00:32:03.360 --> 00:32:07.360
when I was doing this the other day. I just kind of like imagine this way. Cause, um,

567
00:32:07.360 --> 00:32:11.520
I didn't imagine a door, but I just felt myself just open up right here. Cause I thought, okay,

568
00:32:11.520 --> 00:32:16.160
how do I move into vulnerability? How do I expose myself more to the Lord? And I thought,

569
00:32:16.160 --> 00:32:21.760
and I felt like this opening when I did. And so you can kind of imagine doors or whatever.

570
00:32:21.760 --> 00:32:29.600
And, uh, and then allow the Lord to allow the Lord to come in, allow him to, um, uh,

571
00:32:29.600 --> 00:32:35.040
cause you're exposing yourself to him when I'm talking about exposing yourself, by the way,

572
00:32:35.040 --> 00:32:42.720
I'm not referring to things like you need to be thinking of particular things like, well,

573
00:32:42.800 --> 00:32:49.280
it weighs like, and, and having to articulate it like, well, there's this trauma from my past.

574
00:32:49.280 --> 00:32:53.280
And I really, I really don't like thinking about it and it's really embarrassing and I feel very

575
00:32:53.280 --> 00:32:59.600
ashamed about it. And I don't want to expose that to the Lord, but I guess I better do that.

576
00:32:59.600 --> 00:33:05.120
I'm not talking about even articulating anything. If you need to articulate something to yourself

577
00:33:05.120 --> 00:33:10.160
and choose to expose that to the Lord, that's fine. If that's a tool that you want to use

578
00:33:10.160 --> 00:33:15.200
and like, think about something in particular and expose that. That's great. Me, I don't,

579
00:33:15.200 --> 00:33:22.560
I just, I just opened myself up and don't, and don't think because what you want to do,

580
00:33:22.560 --> 00:33:27.040
and this is especially more challenging for people who are very analytical and you think a lot,

581
00:33:28.000 --> 00:33:33.680
you're trying to get yourself to stop, um, hindering yourself by thinking.

582
00:33:34.640 --> 00:33:41.440
And so what's important is that you stop thinking and you start feeling your way through it.

583
00:33:42.160 --> 00:33:48.480
So you just expose yourself to the Lord, just allow him to come in and, um, uh, and, and,

584
00:33:48.480 --> 00:33:57.680
and move into more, expose yourself more and more until, uh, you can start sometimes feeling a

585
00:33:57.680 --> 00:34:04.880
resistance. So move into that and it'll feel good. It'll feel scary before you do it, but as you're

586
00:34:04.880 --> 00:34:08.960
in it, when you're in it, there's an aspect in which it still feels scary, but it feels really,

587
00:34:08.960 --> 00:34:14.639
really good at the same time. Then eventually you're can run into one of two things.

588
00:34:14.639 --> 00:34:19.840
Either you just feel that, okay, you know, in whatever it is you're experiencing

589
00:34:19.840 --> 00:34:25.040
in that vulnerability and that intimacy, that feeling good feeling that comes with it.

590
00:34:28.480 --> 00:34:35.120
Then, um, you can just enjoy it. Just enjoy that with the Lord. Enjoy just, just, um, um,

591
00:34:35.120 --> 00:34:40.719
resting in it, just being in that and, um, and, and just enjoying the experience that you're

592
00:34:40.719 --> 00:34:46.639
having with the Lord. And that will, that will teach you that God is that you're safe with the

593
00:34:46.639 --> 00:34:52.880
Lord. Then, um, the next time you do this, as well as this time, if you want to, if you want to go

594
00:34:52.880 --> 00:34:59.680
deeper, you can, and you just push deeper. You will expose yourself more and more until you feel

595
00:35:00.000 --> 00:35:07.040
a wall, either a wall of I can't open myself up more and I don't know how, you know, like,

596
00:35:07.040 --> 00:35:10.640
well, I think I've given him everything. If you think you've given him everything you haven't,

597
00:35:10.640 --> 00:35:15.440
there's no, there's no end to it. Because he's ever expanding and we're in him and we're ever

598
00:35:15.440 --> 00:35:21.680
expanding then, then you can't ever get to the end of what you can open yourself up to and be

599
00:35:21.680 --> 00:35:27.840
completely vulnerable. So you just, it's just more and more and more. But anyway, so the point is

600
00:35:27.840 --> 00:35:32.880
that whenever you get to a threshold like that, you're going to run into resistance. And so go

601
00:35:32.880 --> 00:35:38.160
through one of the tools that we talked about. If you can't just choose to be vulnerable and let it

602
00:35:38.160 --> 00:35:43.120
go and to release, if you need a tool to remind you of how to release something, or to kind of

603
00:35:43.120 --> 00:35:48.880
like help you like get a bit of leverage for your soul, go through one of those tools that I recommend

604
00:35:48.880 --> 00:35:53.600
or another tool. If you have another tool, you know, that has worked for you, that you have

605
00:35:53.600 --> 00:35:58.000
developed with the Lord, use that. You know, one of the whole things of like just telling yourself

606
00:35:58.000 --> 00:36:06.720
stop or, you know, no shame and no condemnation or no judgment or choose or declare or whatever.

607
00:36:08.160 --> 00:36:13.520
I recommend doing one of those. Something that I do want to mention about the vulnerability and

608
00:36:13.520 --> 00:36:23.120
the intimacy and, and the fact that it can feel uncomfortable and painful as well as,

609
00:36:23.200 --> 00:36:31.920
and not painful as in like, he's hurting me or, and he's saying mean things to me, or he's making

610
00:36:31.920 --> 00:36:37.040
me feel bad. Not like that, but just that, that the, the uncomfortableness that comes with being

611
00:36:37.040 --> 00:36:42.640
exposed. It's like, oh, you know, okay, I'm here and I'm trusting that this feels very exposed.

612
00:36:43.840 --> 00:36:50.160
It's similar, but at the same time, it feels really good. I want us to draw connections between

613
00:36:50.640 --> 00:36:55.760
the things of the spirit and things that God has given us as types and shadows of on the earth.

614
00:36:55.760 --> 00:37:00.480
And remember that that is very similar to what physical intimacy and intercourse can feel like

615
00:37:00.480 --> 00:37:06.720
between a man and a woman. It can feel good and uncomfortable at the same time. So God are, those

616
00:37:06.720 --> 00:37:12.640
are types and shadows of what it is, of what you can draw connections to, of what it is that you're

617
00:37:12.640 --> 00:37:17.920
experiencing with the Lord. And the fact that you're being very vulnerable and you're afraid

618
00:37:17.920 --> 00:37:22.960
of doing it, but once you're in it, you're feeling and experiencing the intimacy of the

619
00:37:22.960 --> 00:37:28.160
Lord that he's wanting to give you of himself. But at the same time, there's an aspect of,

620
00:37:28.160 --> 00:37:33.680
of still, of, of being very aware that you're vulnerable and it being unfamiliar

621
00:37:34.560 --> 00:37:40.800
to be that vulnerable and to experience that intimacy from the Lord. It's unfamiliar and it

622
00:37:40.800 --> 00:37:47.600
can make us feel uncomfortable until we get used to it. And then we can turn it around and learn

623
00:37:47.600 --> 00:37:55.200
to actually enjoy it instead of feeling so uncomfortable while we're feeling good. So I

624
00:37:55.200 --> 00:38:01.280
just wanted to draw that, that connection in case it helps people that have experienced it in the

625
00:38:01.280 --> 00:38:07.440
physical and are, and are trying to, and are now moving into an unknown realm that you can't see

626
00:38:07.440 --> 00:38:14.400
and feel and, and, and it's all happening. It's all happening in the spirit. I'm trying to draw

627
00:38:14.400 --> 00:38:21.120
connections that maybe it'll help kind of ground it a little bit, but it is, is that helpful of,

628
00:38:21.120 --> 00:38:25.760
of an exercise? Cause you're right. You do just go all the way back to the basics of it.

629
00:38:26.800 --> 00:38:34.880
Yes. I think that'll help. Okay. Does what time is it? Does anyone have

630
00:38:36.800 --> 00:38:41.120
anything else, any other questions or anything?

631
00:38:41.120 --> 00:38:48.000
Let's see. Oh my word. Let's see. Yeah. Goodness. It's been a long time since we've had this many

632
00:38:48.000 --> 00:38:57.120
people on here. So nice to see everybody. Our group is growing. I'm sorry. I'll just,

633
00:38:57.120 --> 00:39:06.320
I'll share real quick. I felt like today I was in a really great place of rest for the first time in

634
00:39:06.320 --> 00:39:16.320
a while. And yeah, it was really good. And I, I lay, you know, I just lay on my bed and I turned everything off

635
00:39:16.320 --> 00:39:25.200
and I just spent some time with the Lord and it was really nice. And I want this feeling to last

636
00:39:25.200 --> 00:39:32.800
because I get these feelings. I feel like so peaceful and I can carry on. And then all of a sudden,

637
00:39:33.360 --> 00:39:40.080
I can carry on. And then all of a sudden, without notice, I'll just dip down and everything will be

638
00:39:40.080 --> 00:39:46.640
awry. And I'm like, I'm like, I'm getting more consistent with it, but I'm like, how,

639
00:39:47.440 --> 00:39:54.240
when we get into those situations that are just, we can tell that our soul is running us in those

640
00:39:54.240 --> 00:39:59.680
moments. And, you know, my heart and mind is like wanting what it wants. And it's not about the

641
00:39:59.680 --> 00:39:59.760
spirit.

642
00:40:00.000 --> 00:40:05.120
it like and I know you've taught on this before and I'm super curious because I think it's just

643
00:40:05.120 --> 00:40:12.720
like right now it's really hitting me as to in those moments what's the best way to like I know

644
00:40:12.720 --> 00:40:18.640
we can stand there and say okay he's our protection our provision he is the one who's responsible for

645
00:40:18.640 --> 00:40:22.480
everything it's not about our way it's his way I know we can say all those things but what is

646
00:40:23.360 --> 00:40:28.640
what is the best way to really just shift into that place that we're so used to and we know the

647
00:40:28.640 --> 00:40:34.160
feeling but we're just having trouble accessing it you're talking about rest yeah that feeling

648
00:40:34.160 --> 00:40:40.480
or whatever and it's very good question glad to bring this up okay so um what we cannot do is

649
00:40:40.480 --> 00:40:47.920
some odd times we experience a um you know that that um that feeling you know that place of rest

650
00:40:47.920 --> 00:40:55.360
and and the feelings that come with it sorry let me plug in my phone and um what we can do

651
00:40:55.360 --> 00:41:04.080
is we can begin to rely on that um and rely on experience it as our evidence of okay I'm feeling

652
00:41:04.080 --> 00:41:10.480
this way therefore I'm I'm safe and therefore I'm okay and we can start relying on that instead of

653
00:41:10.480 --> 00:41:17.200
God's word um and charismatics have have really struggled with this um I can say it because I

654
00:41:17.200 --> 00:41:25.360
came from um that charismatic background um and that and charismatic have a tendency to do this

655
00:41:25.360 --> 00:41:30.960
it's it's they believe that their emotions and how they feel and what it is that they're

656
00:41:30.960 --> 00:41:41.040
experiencing is their proof and if they don't experience something then it's not real or it's

657
00:41:41.040 --> 00:41:49.120
not it's not valuable enough and it's not God and some and they don't they don't know that that's

658
00:41:49.120 --> 00:41:53.520
their theology sometimes people talk about it there are some people that talk about experiences

659
00:41:53.520 --> 00:41:57.920
as being very uh so important that oh my goodness if you're not experiencing it well then it's not

660
00:41:57.920 --> 00:42:03.120
real but most people say oh no no it's not the experience you know you have to choose it whether

661
00:42:03.120 --> 00:42:09.600
or not you experience it but I have literally had people tell me um that Ashley I am just waiting

662
00:42:10.080 --> 00:42:16.160
I live I live for the next what was the word they used they said I live for the next um

663
00:42:17.280 --> 00:42:21.040
I can't think of the word um I wish I could think of the word because it was very interesting the

664
00:42:21.040 --> 00:42:27.440
word choice that they had but basically the next mountaintop experience the next feeling of the

665
00:42:27.440 --> 00:42:36.720
Lord then and um uh so the important thing is that even though we can have that and we can feel it

666
00:42:36.720 --> 00:42:45.760
and that's wonderful if uh it's not it's not us um if if we're if us not feeling that

667
00:42:46.640 --> 00:42:53.840
makes us feel concerned and unsettled then we have begun to rely too much on the feeling

668
00:42:54.400 --> 00:43:01.440
and it's important and then we can start using that with the Lord in our faith journey as the

669
00:43:01.440 --> 00:43:08.880
proof that we're requiring of the Lord before we will um the uh that we're requiring of the

670
00:43:08.880 --> 00:43:15.440
Lord to give us or for us to have in order for us to in order for us to shift or in order for

671
00:43:15.440 --> 00:43:21.920
us to make a choice and ultimately everything comes down to the fact that no matter what we

672
00:43:21.920 --> 00:43:28.880
just choose we don't have to want to we don't have to believe we don't have to feel like it

673
00:43:28.880 --> 00:43:37.200
there can be no proof nothing and it's just simply did God say and do I of my own will and

674
00:43:37.200 --> 00:43:45.120
intention choose that it's so that is what gives it the power to make it so that's what shifts us

675
00:43:45.120 --> 00:43:53.200
into rest to so that we can feel it is um is the fact that we choose it we have to choose everything

676
00:43:53.280 --> 00:43:59.360
first before we can have it in the Lord everything the exception to that is when we're young in the

677
00:43:59.360 --> 00:44:04.800
Lord um in a particular area he will teach us like we do like we teach children and the fact

678
00:44:04.800 --> 00:44:10.880
that he'll just like give it he'll like spoon feed us and teach us how to trust him um and then

679
00:44:10.880 --> 00:44:16.240
but once we're mature enough where we're like oh this is God's character God's like okay so now

680
00:44:16.240 --> 00:44:21.360
that you're mature enough for that now that I've like spoon-fed you all this way and created a

681
00:44:21.360 --> 00:44:27.920
fake reality like we do with children a fake environment for them to learn something okay

682
00:44:27.920 --> 00:44:35.440
now you've got it okay let's enter the real world and now just choose and um so it can even go as

683
00:44:35.440 --> 00:44:43.200
deep as feeling and experiencing rest and starting to rely on that of like I like this feeling and

684
00:44:43.200 --> 00:44:51.280
therefore me feeling like this means is how I'm proving to myself and making myself feel calm

685
00:44:51.280 --> 00:44:56.400
that I'm actually at rest and we have to choose that we are there

686
00:44:57.520 --> 00:44:59.840
and that we have that intimacy with the Lord.

687
00:45:00.000 --> 00:45:05.000
and that we have a right to that sense of peace or whatever,

688
00:45:05.000 --> 00:45:12.000
regardless of the experience that we're having at the moment.

689
00:45:12.000 --> 00:45:14.000
Does that make sense?

690
00:45:14.000 --> 00:45:17.000
Because this step goes to a very deep level.

691
00:45:17.000 --> 00:45:24.000
We can even use rest and start using that as a formula

692
00:45:24.000 --> 00:45:31.000
or start using it as the thing that we are wanting to demand of God.

693
00:45:31.000 --> 00:45:37.000
You know, like whatever we're wanting God to reconcile himself to,

694
00:45:37.000 --> 00:45:40.000
to give us before we'll da-da-da-da-da.

695
00:45:40.000 --> 00:45:42.000
Whatever.

696
00:45:42.000 --> 00:45:47.000
And so anyway, we can start using,

697
00:45:47.000 --> 00:45:51.000
we can start applying all of the ways that we have a tendency to

698
00:45:51.000 --> 00:45:54.000
and habits to approach things.

699
00:45:54.000 --> 00:45:58.000
And we can now just replace that with rest.

700
00:45:58.000 --> 00:46:01.000
And so it's got this godly term and we think it's all okay,

701
00:46:01.000 --> 00:46:05.000
but we're still operating so much out of that old mindset.

702
00:46:05.000 --> 00:46:07.000
So anyway, does that make sense?

703
00:46:07.000 --> 00:46:11.000
Yeah, it's great because I think I had,

704
00:46:11.000 --> 00:46:14.000
I had been really focused on the feeling of it.

705
00:46:14.000 --> 00:46:17.000
It's like, if I feel like I'm at rest, then I'm at rest,

706
00:46:17.000 --> 00:46:19.000
because I'm supposed to feel peaceful,

707
00:46:19.000 --> 00:46:24.000
but it's really, it really comes down to that choice to just.

708
00:46:24.000 --> 00:46:26.000
If you choose it, it's true.

709
00:46:26.000 --> 00:46:27.000
Period.

710
00:46:27.000 --> 00:46:29.000
Actually, it's true whether or not you choose it,

711
00:46:29.000 --> 00:46:34.000
but it manifests in your life when you choose it.

712
00:46:34.000 --> 00:46:38.000
Not, not when you feel it, you get to feel it after you choose it.

713
00:46:38.000 --> 00:46:41.000
Because remember what I talk about in the, in the journey to rest,

714
00:46:41.000 --> 00:46:44.000
how it's proof belief choosing.

715
00:46:45.000 --> 00:46:49.000
And, and then, and I'll God, baby spoon feeds us and he'll get this proof.

716
00:46:49.000 --> 00:46:51.000
And then we believe it after we have an approved.

717
00:46:51.000 --> 00:46:53.000
And then, and then he'll say, okay, now believe me.

718
00:46:53.000 --> 00:46:56.000
And I want you to choose it and how he walks is that way.

719
00:46:56.000 --> 00:46:58.000
And that now where he's just like, okay,

720
00:46:58.000 --> 00:47:00.000
now that I've proven my character and prove myself faithful.

721
00:47:00.000 --> 00:47:02.000
Now just choose.

722
00:47:02.000 --> 00:47:04.000
Now that you've chosen.

723
00:47:04.000 --> 00:47:06.000
This is very, very important.

724
00:47:06.000 --> 00:47:08.000
Now that you've chosen.

725
00:47:08.000 --> 00:47:13.000
Then you are the thing like, this is God talking now that you've chosen.

726
00:47:13.000 --> 00:47:16.000
Now you are.

727
00:47:16.000 --> 00:47:19.000
He's saying you are partnering with me.

728
00:47:19.000 --> 00:47:22.000
To create the proof.

729
00:47:22.000 --> 00:47:26.000
To create that feeling. Remember God.

730
00:47:26.000 --> 00:47:30.000
And giving us that word and us choosing to believe it allows it to

731
00:47:30.000 --> 00:47:33.000
manifest in the feeling.

732
00:47:33.000 --> 00:47:37.000
But, but when we're first starting to shift into rest,

733
00:47:38.000 --> 00:47:40.000
We have to partner with him.

734
00:47:40.000 --> 00:47:49.000
To, to see the manifestation.

735
00:47:49.000 --> 00:47:53.000
But, and again, that the feeling now, everything from the Lord is,

736
00:47:53.000 --> 00:47:54.000
is a, is a gift.

737
00:47:54.000 --> 00:47:57.000
It's freely given freely received. We don't have to earn it.

738
00:47:57.000 --> 00:48:00.000
So our partnership with the Lord is not earning anything.

739
00:48:01.000 --> 00:48:04.000
But we, he does, there is that engagement.

740
00:48:04.000 --> 00:48:08.000
So he provides the word. It's the male, the male initiative.

741
00:48:08.000 --> 00:48:09.000
Right.

742
00:48:09.000 --> 00:48:12.000
We provide, we receive the female does nothing, but receive very

743
00:48:12.000 --> 00:48:14.000
effortless, just receives it.

744
00:48:14.000 --> 00:48:17.000
And in what, what we do to receive it is God provides the word.

745
00:48:17.000 --> 00:48:19.000
We believe that's how we choose.

746
00:48:19.000 --> 00:48:21.000
That's how we, that's how we receive it.

747
00:48:22.000 --> 00:48:23.000
If the female.

748
00:48:23.000 --> 00:48:26.000
Receives the male, you know, or, you know, what we think of as,

749
00:48:26.000 --> 00:48:27.000
as male, you know, in the physical, but, you know,

750
00:48:27.000 --> 00:48:30.000
we receive God's word, but we do not provide our own seed.

751
00:48:30.000 --> 00:48:31.000
Nothing.

752
00:48:31.000 --> 00:48:32.000
We receive God's word.

753
00:48:32.000 --> 00:48:34.000
But we do not provide our own seed.

754
00:48:34.000 --> 00:48:36.000
We receive God's word, but we do not provide our own seed.

755
00:48:36.000 --> 00:48:38.000
And that's how we, that's how we receive it.

756
00:48:38.000 --> 00:48:41.000
Then that one that, but both parties,

757
00:48:41.000 --> 00:48:43.000
regardless of who initiates and regardless of who receives,

758
00:48:43.000 --> 00:48:45.000
even the one who effortlessly receives.

759
00:48:45.000 --> 00:48:46.000
Both provide a seed.

760
00:48:46.000 --> 00:48:47.000
If the female.

761
00:48:47.000 --> 00:48:49.000
Receives the male.

762
00:48:49.000 --> 00:48:51.000
We receive God's word, but we do not provide our own seed.

763
00:48:51.000 --> 00:48:53.000
Nothing can manifest.

764
00:48:53.000 --> 00:48:55.000
Now it does when God's teaching us, remember, you know,

765
00:48:55.000 --> 00:48:57.000
he's teaching us concepts.

766
00:48:57.000 --> 00:49:00.000
He'll create a fake reality like we do for our children.

767
00:49:00.000 --> 00:49:01.000
But then eventually he's like, okay,

768
00:49:01.000 --> 00:49:04.000
now you're mature enough to create reality.

769
00:49:04.000 --> 00:49:05.000
So.

770
00:49:05.000 --> 00:49:08.000
Anyway, as we mature in how to shift into rest,

771
00:49:08.000 --> 00:49:11.000
that's why we're noticing that things change. You're like, well,

772
00:49:11.000 --> 00:49:13.000
When I first started the rest intensive, you know, this,

773
00:49:13.000 --> 00:49:16.000
this happened the first day and this happened the first time.

774
00:49:16.000 --> 00:49:18.000
And as we go on, it changes. Cause God's like, no, no, no.

775
00:49:18.000 --> 00:49:20.000
Now you collaborate with me.

776
00:49:20.000 --> 00:49:23.000
Now you've matured enough. I you're old enough.

777
00:49:23.000 --> 00:49:26.000
As it says in Ezekiel 16, you're old enough for love.

778
00:49:26.000 --> 00:49:29.000
You're old enough for both you get for you to affect me and for me to

779
00:49:29.000 --> 00:49:32.000
affect you. So provide your own seed.

780
00:49:32.000 --> 00:49:35.000
And the seed that we provide is intention.

781
00:49:35.000 --> 00:49:38.000
It's our own decision, our own free will.

782
00:49:38.000 --> 00:49:42.000
That is what we provide that collaborates with God of his intention and

783
00:49:42.000 --> 00:49:46.000
his free will, which allows something to, to finally manifest,

784
00:49:46.000 --> 00:49:48.000
which allows us to move forward.

785
00:49:48.000 --> 00:49:49.000
And that's what we're trying to do.

786
00:49:49.000 --> 00:49:51.000
And that's what we're trying to do with the rest,

787
00:49:51.000 --> 00:49:53.000
including that feeling.

788
00:49:53.000 --> 00:49:54.000
So.

789
00:49:54.000 --> 00:49:55.000
Anyway.

790
00:49:55.000 --> 00:49:58.000
And then we get to plant that seed in the ground and let it.

791
00:49:58.000 --> 00:49:59.000
Let it go. Right.

792
00:50:00.000 --> 00:50:07.880
about when God gives us a seed and, and, you know, the two

793
00:50:07.880 --> 00:50:12.760
seeds can join and, and it's fertilized. The woman's, the

794
00:50:12.760 --> 00:50:17.800
woman's seed is fertilized. It sits in the womb for a

795
00:50:17.800 --> 00:50:21.880
gestation period. And just like a seed that's planted in the

796
00:50:21.880 --> 00:50:25.440
ground, Jesus talked about this, just like a seed that's planted

797
00:50:25.440 --> 00:50:31.080
in the ground, our seed with the Lord dies. It doesn't just

798
00:50:31.120 --> 00:50:37.120
go into hibernation. Jesus said it dies. It has to die before.

799
00:50:37.160 --> 00:50:39.440
But remember, there's always resurrection on the other side

800
00:50:39.440 --> 00:50:42.280
of death through Jesus finally, you know, because he removed

801
00:50:42.280 --> 00:50:44.360
the sting of death. So there's always resurrection on the other

802
00:50:44.360 --> 00:50:47.360
side, but it does have to die is in it looks like there's no

803
00:50:47.360 --> 00:50:51.000
hope. And it's all gone. I mean, like completely, it's not like,

804
00:50:51.040 --> 00:50:55.200
oh, well, it's quiet. And when are we going to be active? It

805
00:50:55.200 --> 00:50:59.400
looks like there's no hope. And that's what happens. And then in

806
00:50:59.400 --> 00:51:04.200
bed, just because that then God always has life after death. And

807
00:51:04.200 --> 00:51:09.520
so that whole death, letting go, God gives us the seed, you know,

808
00:51:09.560 --> 00:51:15.000
and gives us the seed. We're collaborating with him. The seed

809
00:51:15.000 --> 00:51:18.000
starts and we and we're wondering, so why isn't anything

810
00:51:18.000 --> 00:51:22.960
happening? gestation period, you know, in a in a woman, it's nine

811
00:51:22.960 --> 00:51:26.800
months. And I don't know, I think it's like what in a in a

812
00:51:27.160 --> 00:51:30.560
in a fish or two, or something like that. It's like, I don't

813
00:51:30.560 --> 00:51:35.480
know, three days. And then and then an elephant's a year and a

814
00:51:35.480 --> 00:51:37.920
half. I mean, just a station period, you know, it's just very

815
00:51:37.920 --> 00:51:40.600
different. And there's a gestation period with the Lord

816
00:51:40.760 --> 00:51:43.760
while the thing is growing. And there's a certain part, a

817
00:51:43.760 --> 00:51:48.160
certain point at which when that sprout starts creeping up, that

818
00:51:48.160 --> 00:51:51.000
he says, Okay, now I want you to start collaborating with me even

819
00:51:51.000 --> 00:51:55.280
more. And the fact that you you help me water it, and you have

820
00:51:55.320 --> 00:51:58.880
helped me make sure that it has access to sunlight, to sunlight,

821
00:51:59.160 --> 00:52:01.640
and you nurture it, and you nurture it and all of that, but

822
00:52:01.640 --> 00:52:06.640
you don't get to eat of the tree yet, because it's not mature. So

823
00:52:06.640 --> 00:52:10.480
God gives us a seed, but we there's a just there's death,

824
00:52:11.120 --> 00:52:14.640
then there's resurrection and gestation period before there's

825
00:52:14.640 --> 00:52:18.640
heart and in growth before there's harvest. So anyway, but

826
00:52:19.080 --> 00:52:21.440
so I'm thinking about the death part of it, because that's,

827
00:52:21.480 --> 00:52:24.440
that's interesting, because I always thought, when you talked

828
00:52:24.440 --> 00:52:27.480
about the hibernation, as much as I know, like about death of a

829
00:52:27.480 --> 00:52:31.280
vision and stuff, but I always thought it was kind of like a

830
00:52:31.320 --> 00:52:35.440
sort of mock death, because it doesn't really die, die, like

831
00:52:35.440 --> 00:52:38.480
it's buried in the ground, but it doesn't really, like, even

832
00:52:38.480 --> 00:52:41.520
when a man and a woman come together and create life, like

833
00:52:41.520 --> 00:52:44.440
it does, it doesn't have to die first, right? Or does it like,

834
00:52:44.640 --> 00:52:48.200
maybe I'm just scientifically not not quite there yet. But how

835
00:52:48.200 --> 00:52:50.800
does it? Where does it say in the Bible about that? And like,

836
00:52:51.080 --> 00:52:54.480
does it really die? Like, or is that just figurative language?

837
00:52:55.080 --> 00:53:00.960
And so it is figurative, but it's true at the same time. So

838
00:53:01.000 --> 00:53:05.320
death is, um, let me show you. Well, I don't know if I have it

839
00:53:05.320 --> 00:53:08.440
written on here. I talked about it at the conference. And so

840
00:53:08.480 --> 00:53:11.600
those who, you know, who watched it, you'll, you'll remember this

841
00:53:11.600 --> 00:53:17.080
part. This right here is death. Think of it. Everything down

842
00:53:17.080 --> 00:53:25.720
here. And think of it just like that. Sorry, is like the ocean,

843
00:53:25.760 --> 00:53:28.760
everything down here is in the ocean and everything up here is,

844
00:53:28.960 --> 00:53:34.360
is the air in the sky. So this right here, that ocean line is

845
00:53:34.360 --> 00:53:38.840
death. So in really, there's in but we know that in an ocean

846
00:53:38.840 --> 00:53:41.720
line, all that is is where the water, there's the border

847
00:53:41.720 --> 00:53:45.040
between where the air and the water meet. There's no such

848
00:53:45.080 --> 00:53:48.640
separate thing from the ocean and the air that's called the

849
00:53:48.640 --> 00:53:53.200
waterline. It's not a place. It's not a thing. It's not a,

850
00:53:53.280 --> 00:53:57.080
it's not, it's just not, it's not a space. It's just simply

851
00:53:57.080 --> 00:54:01.320
the transition between not being in water and now being in air.

852
00:54:02.080 --> 00:54:06.480
So that's all that death is that we're talking about. And, and I

853
00:54:06.480 --> 00:54:09.960
know that that's a that is very confusing because it's not

854
00:54:09.960 --> 00:54:16.280
accurate, which is why Jesus tried to avoid talking about is

855
00:54:16.280 --> 00:54:20.600
saying the word death. He didn't like to acknowledge it because

856
00:54:21.320 --> 00:54:24.720
he was going to have victory over death. But the reason why

857
00:54:24.720 --> 00:54:27.520
we keep using it and, and remember that he removed the

858
00:54:27.520 --> 00:54:30.840
sting of death, meaning that death, what death meant is that

859
00:54:31.040 --> 00:54:34.440
there was something on the other side where there was lack. There

860
00:54:34.440 --> 00:54:36.960
was, and then there's not anymore, you know, it's

861
00:54:37.000 --> 00:54:40.800
existence and the non-existence, but that doesn't exist anymore

862
00:54:40.800 --> 00:54:49.160
because when we go DASA stay, when we, when we go through a

863
00:54:49.160 --> 00:54:53.240
transition now, there's always life on the other side. But the

864
00:54:53.240 --> 00:54:56.920
reason I keep referring to death is the fact that there's so much

865
00:54:56.920 --> 00:55:00.120
of that old man mindset that we still have.

866
00:55:00.000 --> 00:55:04.840
that we're, it helps us understand what's going on.

867
00:55:04.840 --> 00:55:07.260
So that's the only reason why I use the word death

868
00:55:07.260 --> 00:55:09.600
and why Jesus used the word death.

869
00:55:09.600 --> 00:55:11.320
When you talked about the whole seed thing,

870
00:55:11.320 --> 00:55:13.720
because normally he didn't like to talk about death.

871
00:55:13.720 --> 00:55:16.160
Lazarus, he did not like to admit,

872
00:55:16.160 --> 00:55:19.200
he didn't want to say the word that he was dead.

873
00:55:19.200 --> 00:55:20.800
Remember, until they kept prompting him

874
00:55:20.800 --> 00:55:23.220
and he was like, fine, fine, he's dead.

875
00:55:23.220 --> 00:55:25.640
Because he understands, okay, that's just their language.

876
00:55:25.640 --> 00:55:28.640
It's the only way that they're able to grab the concept.

877
00:55:29.640 --> 00:55:33.440
So it's kind of like people, it's like talking in English,

878
00:55:33.440 --> 00:55:35.560
but then people only understand something in Greek.

879
00:55:35.560 --> 00:55:37.540
And if English is their second language

880
00:55:37.540 --> 00:55:39.140
and they're not getting the English word,

881
00:55:39.140 --> 00:55:40.680
you use the Greek word.

882
00:55:40.680 --> 00:55:42.200
You're like, okay, well, this isn't a real word,

883
00:55:42.200 --> 00:55:44.240
but hey, here's the Greek word for you.

884
00:55:44.240 --> 00:55:45.400
It's that kind of a thing.

885
00:55:45.400 --> 00:55:48.520
It's a bit of the crossover that we're still in,

886
00:55:48.520 --> 00:55:52.180
in trying to get a new language for things

887
00:55:52.180 --> 00:55:55.320
that we haven't admitted and haven't walked in

888
00:55:55.320 --> 00:55:57.760
of the New Testament, sorry, the New Covenant.

889
00:55:57.760 --> 00:56:00.360
Well, it is the New Testament, but the New Covenant.

890
00:56:01.840 --> 00:56:04.160
But we're so used to talking about the word death.

891
00:56:04.160 --> 00:56:06.820
So I use that because it helps us get the concepts

892
00:56:06.820 --> 00:56:11.560
that I'm talking about easier as in there's a transition,

893
00:56:11.560 --> 00:56:13.440
a letting go and a release.

894
00:56:13.440 --> 00:56:17.100
That's all that death is, is the action of letting go.

895
00:56:17.100 --> 00:56:19.780
You're not going anywhere and you're not in a place

896
00:56:19.780 --> 00:56:21.200
and you haven't died.

897
00:56:21.200 --> 00:56:25.640
It's simply the transition between holding

898
00:56:25.640 --> 00:56:27.300
and not holding anymore.

899
00:56:27.740 --> 00:56:30.940
The movement between the holding and the not holding anymore

900
00:56:30.940 --> 00:56:33.180
is the death.

901
00:56:33.180 --> 00:56:37.620
It feels like death to us in the soul and the body

902
00:56:37.620 --> 00:56:40.540
because there's pain involved, there's struggle.

903
00:56:40.540 --> 00:56:42.020
So that's why I use the word.

904
00:56:42.020 --> 00:56:44.000
And that's why I believe personally

905
00:56:44.000 --> 00:56:46.540
that I think Jesus might've been using that word.

906
00:56:47.420 --> 00:56:49.140
And so that's what that is.

907
00:56:49.140 --> 00:56:52.620
It's simply a reflection of a transition.

908
00:56:54.500 --> 00:56:56.220
And so anyway,

909
00:56:56.220 --> 00:57:01.220
and the fact that things look like there's no hope.

910
00:57:02.980 --> 00:57:05.380
We think as soon as we have a seed,

911
00:57:05.380 --> 00:57:07.360
as soon as there's conception that,

912
00:57:07.360 --> 00:57:09.140
oh, something's supposed to happen.

913
00:57:09.140 --> 00:57:12.500
And I was like, no, not yet, not yet.

914
00:57:12.500 --> 00:57:17.340
And so to us, how we respond is, it's like death.

915
00:57:17.340 --> 00:57:20.840
It's like, but God, you said it

916
00:57:20.840 --> 00:57:23.200
and now are you retracting it?

917
00:57:23.800 --> 00:57:26.160
Is it, you're the one who promised

918
00:57:26.160 --> 00:57:28.000
and so now you've taken it away.

919
00:57:30.040 --> 00:57:31.480
God gave the promise to Abraham

920
00:57:31.480 --> 00:57:33.580
and Isaac wasn't born for 10 more years.

921
00:57:34.640 --> 00:57:38.800
It's just, it looks like a death, but it's not.

922
00:57:38.800 --> 00:57:41.480
And so, and that's the thing about a birth

923
00:57:41.480 --> 00:57:43.720
is that when he's still in the,

924
00:57:43.720 --> 00:57:48.400
when the baby is still in the womb, it's not out yet.

925
00:57:48.400 --> 00:57:50.600
Just because the baby has been conceived

926
00:57:50.600 --> 00:57:52.800
doesn't mean that you can have it out

927
00:57:52.800 --> 00:57:54.960
and hold it and all of that.

928
00:57:54.960 --> 00:57:59.680
And so it's as if it's, it's not dead, obviously,

929
00:57:59.680 --> 00:58:02.280
but just kind of, again, just those pictures

930
00:58:02.280 --> 00:58:06.380
that the Lord uses of things is in hiding.

931
00:58:06.380 --> 00:58:08.520
It's in hiding, it's being protected,

932
00:58:08.520 --> 00:58:11.840
it's being woven together.

933
00:58:11.840 --> 00:58:13.520
There's a process it's going through.

934
00:58:13.520 --> 00:58:14.680
So that's what he talks about

935
00:58:14.680 --> 00:58:16.520
when he talks about the seed dying.

936
00:58:16.520 --> 00:58:18.720
He doesn't mean that it like literally dies.

937
00:58:20.800 --> 00:58:22.200
But it's, you can't see it.

938
00:58:23.960 --> 00:58:26.560
Yeah, it's being woven together.

939
00:58:26.560 --> 00:58:28.400
And like, as it's being woven together,

940
00:58:28.400 --> 00:58:31.640
we get to let go of it, right?

941
00:58:31.640 --> 00:58:34.960
And allow it to, quote unquote, die, but.

942
00:58:34.960 --> 00:58:37.060
Because it looks like it's actually not gonna happen.

943
00:58:37.060 --> 00:58:40.120
God said it was gonna happen and we got really excited.

944
00:58:40.120 --> 00:58:43.180
And now it looks like it's not gonna happen, you know?

945
00:58:43.180 --> 00:58:45.200
I mean, think of the fate that we would have to have

946
00:58:45.200 --> 00:58:47.000
back in Bible times.

947
00:58:47.000 --> 00:58:49.840
If a woman's belly did not grow,

948
00:58:50.760 --> 00:58:52.600
when during the gestation period.

949
00:58:52.600 --> 00:58:54.240
And you didn't see anything.

950
00:58:54.240 --> 00:58:55.840
You're just like, am I pregnant?

951
00:58:55.840 --> 00:58:56.660
Am I not pregnant?

952
00:58:56.660 --> 00:58:58.920
And you wouldn't know for nine months, you know?

953
00:58:58.920 --> 00:59:01.680
And so things can just kind of,

954
00:59:01.680 --> 00:59:02.920
again, these are all pictures.

955
00:59:02.920 --> 00:59:06.200
God talks to us like we talk to five-year-old children

956
00:59:06.200 --> 00:59:07.440
in Sunday school.

957
00:59:07.440 --> 00:59:10.520
Using these crayon drawings, you know,

958
00:59:10.520 --> 00:59:14.440
and these ideas and these concepts to get us an idea,

959
00:59:15.280 --> 00:59:18.200
but of something that we don't have a grid for

960
00:59:18.200 --> 00:59:21.960
in the spirit until we can choose to let go

961
00:59:21.960 --> 00:59:24.160
of all of these pictures that he's given us.

962
00:59:24.160 --> 00:59:27.360
And, you know, that we thought, oh, well, it was,

963
00:59:27.360 --> 00:59:31.120
God doesn't want us to get, to be very rigid

964
00:59:31.120 --> 00:59:32.360
in how we hold on to all of these.

965
00:59:32.360 --> 00:59:34.240
That, oh, well, it looks exactly like this.

966
00:59:34.240 --> 00:59:35.580
And why isn't it looking exactly like this?

967
00:59:35.580 --> 00:59:38.800
God's like, no, it was a springboard.

968
00:59:38.800 --> 00:59:43.120
It was a springboard to get you to trust me enough

969
00:59:43.120 --> 00:59:46.280
to finally let go of the picture

970
00:59:46.280 --> 00:59:48.880
and start to move into an unknown

971
00:59:48.880 --> 00:59:51.880
that this world can't picture for you.

972
00:59:52.880 --> 00:59:57.160
I want you to have more than what this world will allow you

973
00:59:57.160 --> 01:00:00.280
to mentally and emotionally process and logically.

974
01:00:00.000 --> 01:00:06.720
consume. That's why we have to get to this point in our spirit, where we just know things,

975
01:00:06.720 --> 01:00:10.800
and we don't can't even articulate it same thing with our identity can articulate our

976
01:00:10.800 --> 01:00:17.200
identity by telling you what I know my identity. I move into that place in the Lord and I'm

977
01:00:17.200 --> 01:00:22.600
like, nobody can sway me from who I know I am, but I can't even articulate to myself

978
01:00:22.600 --> 01:00:29.480
who I am. I don't have a grid for it, you know, anyway. Hopefully that's helpful.

979
01:00:29.480 --> 01:00:37.640
Mm hmm. Yes, very helpful. Thank you. You're welcome. And let me see. So it is time but

980
01:00:37.640 --> 01:00:54.080
does someone have another question before we go? So everyone good. Okay. And I guess

981
01:00:54.080 --> 01:00:59.400
that will be it. The only other thing is, and some people were not on here. And some

982
01:00:59.400 --> 01:01:04.360
of the new people were on here when we when we started. And so just to let everybody know

983
01:01:04.440 --> 01:01:09.560
how these live q&a's work is when you have a question, you can unmute yourself. Otherwise,

984
01:01:09.560 --> 01:01:17.240
I have everybody always muted, because feedback that can happen during the recording. And

985
01:01:17.240 --> 01:01:21.000
because like my voice or somebody else's voice will like go through the computer and then come

986
01:01:21.000 --> 01:01:28.440
back into their into go like through the speakers and then back into the microphone. So you can just

987
01:01:28.440 --> 01:01:33.320
unmute yourself if you have a question and or raise your hand or something, you know, raise

988
01:01:33.320 --> 01:01:39.640
your hands like there's a like an emoji, raise your hands in there. Or, or you can like mention

989
01:01:39.640 --> 01:01:45.160
something in the chat that you have a question, you know, whatever. And then as far as, as like

990
01:01:45.160 --> 01:01:50.200
the interaction, and the this is a q&a, where people are asking me questions about what it is

991
01:01:50.200 --> 01:01:54.680
that that I believe about particular things that they questions that they have about about rest.

992
01:01:55.800 --> 01:02:02.520
So it's a it's not a collaborative effort where we're all just kind of offering, you know, all

993
01:02:02.520 --> 01:02:11.720
of our, all of our thoughts and ideas. I am very happy for people to, you know, to, to, you know,

994
01:02:11.720 --> 01:02:20.040
say hello, and whatever in the group. But as far as like, this is an actual q&a. And if people want

995
01:02:20.040 --> 01:02:24.520
other people's input, you know, beyond myself, because they are more than welcome to ask for

996
01:02:24.520 --> 01:02:32.520
that, they can do it in a post in the, in the, what do you call it in the group. And if people

997
01:02:32.520 --> 01:02:37.160
post and so y'all may know this from looking at the announcements that if people mention

998
01:02:37.160 --> 01:02:41.640
in the in the question that it's specifically to me, like if they're addressing me specifically,

999
01:02:41.640 --> 01:02:45.880
then their question is just for me. And there, there's a vulnerability that they that they've

1000
01:02:45.880 --> 01:02:49.720
opened up to just be like, okay, this is hard enough for me to be vulnerable to like, tell

1001
01:02:49.720 --> 01:02:56.040
everybody this is my question. But I'll ask Ashley, but it's another level of vulnerability

1002
01:02:56.040 --> 01:03:01.000
to open up to the whole group and say, Hey, I'm welcoming anybody's input, you would like to

1003
01:03:01.000 --> 01:03:06.600
like to give me feedback, they allow them to specifically ask for that if they are asking

1004
01:03:06.600 --> 01:03:12.440
for everyone's input. Otherwise, I ask that people honor the fact that to not give each other advice,

1005
01:03:13.160 --> 01:03:18.520
unless someone asks you for it. Otherwise, just encourage and uplift each other. And

1006
01:03:19.320 --> 01:03:25.480
you can share your own stories and whatever. But please don't teach or advise each other,

1007
01:03:25.480 --> 01:03:31.080
unless you're being asked for it. So unless they're asking you for it. And that's just a

1008
01:03:31.080 --> 01:03:36.440
measure to protect everyone and to let everyone feel safe enough to be as vulnerable as as y'all

1009
01:03:36.440 --> 01:03:42.600
have very graciously chosen to be with all of us. So we appreciate that. So okay, if there

1010
01:03:42.680 --> 01:03:48.600
are any more questions, I will see y'all next Thursday. So hope y'all all have a really good

1011
01:03:48.600 --> 01:03:51.640
night. It was really good to see all of you. Bye