If you're on there, I can't.
OK, that's a bummer.
Hey, yeah, Lindsay, please let me know
if that continues to be an issue.
I'm using, there's multiple Wi-Fis that we can use Hilding,
and I actually came to my office at my office, Ed's office.
And because remember, we work and go to church
in the same building, so he's in our apartment.
I walked through the church while they're
in the middle of something.
In fact, every now and then, I can know the fiery preacher.
We have a guest speaker in, so he's
very excited and very intense.
Anyway, and then I walked through the building
to Ed's office.
We were excited because we thought
I'd have really good internet because I
could plug in right away.
I've never used this plug directly into the ethernet,
but it's not, there's no outlet on the computer
for this ethernet plug-in.
So long story, point is, I tried.
So let me know if I stick.
OK, so does anyone have, it's our fireside chat,
so it is for asking questions.
Let me start out, though, first, while everyone's
thinking of their question that they might,
if anyone has something that they'd
like to start us out with.
One of the things I have been noticing,
so, is that I tried to structure the rest intensive in such
a way that this particular one, in such a way
that everyone had time to process things, et cetera.
And that basically, because things can,
and the change, and the introduction to new revelation,
and the shiftings that can happen,
our spirits can happen so fast, it
can be kind of intense for people,
no pen on what it is we were just talking about,
that I tried to spread everything out
over a period of six weeks.
It's not that it takes six weeks.
In fact, I usually work with people much faster.
People can get major shifts from one conversation with me.
And then, in fact, people for getting such major shifts
and having non-conversation with me,
that then they were having clarity calls
to see if they wanted to join the rest intensive.
This is back when I used to do clarity calls.
Then some of them were getting such transformation
that they didn't join the rest intensive because they
didn't need it anymore.
So anyway, so my point is, it doesn't take long
to make huge changes in the Lord.
All that it takes is us being willing to do it
and us then stepping into it.
But I wanted to make sure to provide,
oh dear, they've decided to now clean the hallway
with a vacuum cleaner.
So we'll see how long we have silence.
But anyway, I decided to kind of like structure it
to six weeks.
And so what I would like to do,
because I believe that by some of your questions,
y'all are wanting certain,
y'all are wanting to get breakthrough
in certain areas faster.
That does mean we can speed it up.
The thing is it does make it more intense
and doesn't make it more intense on me necessarily.
I mean, technically it does, but really it's for y'all.
So what I'm going to do is I'm going to change things
up a bit.
I am going to make the, first of all,
in order to meet my commitment to the people who are
in the lifetime membership,
I am going to continue the Tuesday night teachings
live broadcasting in the order that I said
that I was going to do them in the time that I said
that I was going to do them in.
Meaning like, you know, that's that cadence
and that schedule is going to be the same.
I'm going to be making myself available in the live chat
for people who would like to do that
because I want to keep my commitment.
If those of you who are lifetime members don't need it
because you'll be able to keep up with the new schedule,
just let me know.
And then I, that frees me up there
to maybe do something with y'all,
or I don't know, I could do it for,
have that time free for transformation
or session or something.
So what I'm going to do is I'm going to open up the videos
for y'all to go through at your own pace.
And then obviously I'm still available
for questions, et cetera.
So no, it's not that we're,
that I'll be live in the chat
because you'll all be watching it at your own convenience.
But what it will enable you to do is to be a bit more,
lack of better phrase,
in control of how fast and how intense do you want to go.
And then of course, we're still doing it for six weeks.
We're still in the group for six weeks.
All of that's the same.
The, and then it's, and then the,
I'm going to open up the times where we do meet.
I'm going to open those up for live.
Q&A's. So instead of teachings, we're going to have live Q&A's. So you'll have more time with
me to be able to actually ask questions about how to apply it. So speaking of that, I think then
that I'm going to probably talk to the Lifetime members who are accessing the Tuesday night thing
and I'm going to move that time. So I'll coordinate specifically with them again because I want to
make my commitment to them that, hey, that was going to be available for them to access.
But that time slot will still be ours to meet for the live Q&A. So we'll basically have two live
Q&A's a week and on Tuesdays at from nine to 10 and Thursdays nine to 10 and then do the rest
groups. The one exception is I have to see if y'all tell me if you think that that's too close
together and y'all would rather switching the rest groups to do the rest groups on Tuesday
and then the live Q&A on Sunday. The reason for that is there's longer time between Thursday
and Sunday than there from one rest group to another. Then there would be if you do a Thursday,
a Tuesday rest, a Tuesday, I'm not a rest group, live Q&A from Thursday to Sunday,
then there would be if you do a live Q&A on Tuesday and then day and then day after next
you have another one. So maybe we kind of need to spread them out a little bit more and then do a
rest group in between. So maybe that would be best. But my whole point in doing this is because
the whole point of the rest intensive is not the teaching. I don't want to say that I just
kind of get through the teaching, but the point of the teaching is to kind of like repaint a
different context and a different perspective from which we're approaching everything.
But the biggest issue isn't really the teaching that people have. The issue is the fact of like,
okay, yeah, but how do I connect the teaching to my real life? And that, and, and if people could
do it by themselves, they would have just purchased the inner is rest teaching online,
you know, and do the rest intensive. Why? Because it's cheaper. And a lot of people on here have
already done that. And they're still, and they're now after that in the rest intensive because
people learn they're like, okay, all of that's great, but how do I apply it in my unique situation?
How does this actually make sense in real life? So I want to provide the majority of the time,
effort and energy that I'm pouring into the rest intensive to be on the actually helping everyone
apply it. That's why I, I did even though all of the people that I've worked with thus far,
always say that they want me to do live teachings instead of doing recorded teachings,
because they want that live interaction. They say that it's, it's easier for them. It's better.
I wanted to manner of as a interesting turn of phrase, I went to conserve my energy to focus
the majority of it on helping y'all apply. Y'all can listen to the recording on your own. You can
listen to the teaching on your own. I'm already doing a lot of teaching in just the transformation
sessions or in these live Q and A's, right? Because every time someone asks the question,
I don't just answer the question. I always provide context of why this is the way that it is
in order to help people establish it or know where it is that they can find it in scripture
or whatever. So I wanted to, um, so I tried to structure this particular rest intensive a bit
different, um, so that I could, uh, that instead of pouring so much into live teaching, I just
provide y'all access to the teaching. And then I'm focusing the majority of the time and effort
and energy and interaction with y'all where you can ask me questions on, okay, how do I take this
and apply it to my unique situation? So is that all okay with y'all that I'm changing it up a bit?
I'm really basically giving y'all more access to me to ask questions. So instead of being in the
chat with answering questions during the teaching, you watch your teachings on your own time, go as
fast or as slow as you want to don't go too fast, just because you're just excited and eager.
Remember you want to live this thing, but, but you and the Lord decide what you want to do and
what it is that you can handle and how fast you want to make these decisions to be that surrendered
to shift. And then we'll spend all of our time on the rest groups and live Q and A's. And so that'll
be our three times to meet throughout the week. Is everybody good with that? Are y'all okay with that?
So kind of, sort of. Okay. All right. Okay. It looks good. So if anybody has an issue with that,
you can let me know, but everybody looks okay. All right. So that's what we're going to do. Oh,
someone asked what's a lifetime member. That is somebody who is part of the, who joined the rest
intensive, a prob majority of them joined in 2020, some joined in 2021. And I haven't opened up the
rest intensive sense, but I mean, meaning like this, this group until, you know, on Facebook.
Um, so anybody who accessed it during those two years, um, part of what it is that I was offering
at the time was lifetime access to the Facebook group. So it's not lifetime access to.
they get to join a rest intensive, I do.
It's they always have access to this Facebook group.
This is their community.
It's got the old teachings in it, et cetera.
And what I was gifting to y'all was access
to this community that I haven't let anyone into
or see or be exposed to or whatever for a year and a half.
So anyway, so that's what a lifetime member is
in what they, I gifted to them
because we're doing all, we're doing so much in the group.
We're using the chat, you know, in the group,
we're doing all of the posts in the group.
And we have access to, y'all have access
to all my old original teachings from April, 2020.
You have access to all the old posts,
all of those testimonies, all of those struggles,
you know, everything.
And what I gifted to the lifetime members
because we were all in there and, you know,
operating in the same space as I allowed them,
I said that, hey, whenever I do the live broadcast,
y'all are welcome to join us for that.
You're also welcome to join us for the rest groups
if you'd like, and you're welcome to join us
for these fireside chats.
But if they wanted anything additional,
like if they wanted like the transformation sessions with me,
which they're all very familiar with
because they had those transformation sessions with me,
or they wanted early access
and they get to have personal ministry time with Ed
or whatever, that was an additional package
that I kind of put together just for them.
But I wanted to give them some free things,
partly because we're already,
I wanted to give them access to everything
that we were gonna already have in group anyway.
And I also just kind of wanted to invite them to participate
because they're a huge benefit to the community
because they've already lived this out like me.
And so they can help support each, you know,
those of y'all who were like learning this new
or needing encouragement or whatever,
like several of y'all, they have posted,
I think, let's see, Carrie, Alana, Susan, Lori,
I'm trying to remember who else,
Amy and some others that have,
that are longtime members that, oh, Steph,
that have posted trying to encourage everybody.
Oh yeah, I know what that feels like.
I've been through that,
or this is what I'm currently going through
to let y'all know that it's bigger than even us
that are meeting together all of the time.
So I knew that that would be a support to y'all
and an encouragement so that you'd know
it's not just me that God works with.
And it's not just me that God shifts into rest
and like, you know, shows up for like this.
He shows up like this for everyone
because that's who he is,
not because any of us are doing something magical or special
or because my name's Ashley and he decided to pick me.
You know, he picks all, he's picked all of us.
And so this is a universal truth for the sense of God.
And by hearing multiple voices
that have gone through this,
you know that it's for you too.
So anyway, that is what that is.
So, oh yeah, the teachings be available
to watch on your own time.
So that's what I'm going to talk to you about, Liberty,
because you're a lifetime member,
I'll talk to you about all of that offline,
about how y'all can access this teaching.
So, and let's see, live Q&A Thursday and Sunday.
I know, that's what I'm thinking as well.
So, okay.
Does anyone have any questions
before we actually have a question
about like the structure or what it is
that I was talking about
before we get into the real live Q&A?
With questions about rest,
does anyone have everything or anything,
or is everyone good?
Everyone good?
Okay, all right.
So what would someone like to open the floor with?
By the way, Lindsay, I'm very proud of my lighting.
This is probably the best lighting I've ever recorded.
It looks great.
She always records in good lighting.
I'm here in the shadows.
People is why I'm in Lindsay's group.
Lindsay's in mine, I'm doing hers
because I need major help.
So lighting is one of those things.
So I have a question.
We can jump in.
So I wanna talk about negative emotions
and maybe I wanna get your perspective on,
because I think part of my stuckness,
let me just process this for a second.
I think part of my stuckness is
I have not given myself permission
to experience or process negative emotions fully.
And so I'm thinking there's been some entrapment
and not full release.
For different reasons, right?
Like avoidance, not thinking that I was allowed
to process negative emotions, et cetera, et cetera.
Correct, yeah.
So I'm wondering,
you know, what, what, what do you do with thinking of emotions? How do you release those?
Yeah, that would be my question. Yeah, it's a really good question. Actually,
I was just looking something up because, like I said, one of our previous member,
one of our lifetime members, Lori posted this as an encouragement on Casey's post.
And she mentions that she talks about, she said, during my first rest intensive in 2020,
the first while I experienced so much brokenness, dread and pain. And by the way, I know you're
probably not just talking about like, like, I don't know, and like shifting into rest or
whatever you're talking about, you actually, like, say, for instance, you made a post the
other day about the fact that you're processing with the Lord, the fact that you found out that
you're afraid of people or whatever. And you've never been able to admit that to yourself,
because you always thought, well, I'm not supposed to feel that way. So we always,
always try to avoid that negative emotion. So if we find ourselves in a place, so this goes with
whether or not you're actually trying to shift into rest in an area, or you're kind of like
trying to explore with the Lord, like something and you start running up against negative emotions.
So the first while I experienced so much brokenness, dread and pain, because things
were coming to the surface, I didn't want to deal with feelings of maybe this isn't working.
And I'm going to be the one who doesn't who this doesn't work for meaning the rest. She said,
I felt shame and condemnation rise up and felt like I didn't have the energy to deal with it.
So I didn't. I stopped trying to deal with it. I allow the feelings of overwhelm and tiredness
and guilt to wash over me like a wave day after day, wave after wave. I allowed things,
painful things to come up and wash over me and leave my body. It sucked. No sugar coating it.
I released the need to suppress and hide my emotions. It felt like an old version of myself
was slowly dying and shedding off. And it scared me. Who would I be if I didn't have depression,
pain, anxiety, guilt, who would I become? And what would happen to me if I let go of needing
to control everything and everyone in my life, but I pressed on. Then one day it stopped the
depression gone, the anxiety, mostly gone, OCD gone, the need to control things gone,
et cetera, et cetera. Um, so, and then, uh, later on, she says, you know, I released God from
needing to show up in my life, but he showed up anyway, in big, big ways. I've been talking to
some of y'all about that in the transformation sessions about completely releasing God of
accountability to you for any outcome in your life. And she is talking about that because that's what,
you know, um, that's what I talked to her about. She said, I released God from needing to show up
in my life. And then he decided to show up because I released him of the obligation to do so anyway,
suddenly love was coming in waves, then peace, then freedom. And then finally joy. So, um,
my point of that is, um, to just kind of walk through a testimony that someone has recently
gave of the fact that they were finding themselves in that situation where they'd always, whenever
they'd run up against negative emotions, they'd always resisted it and they hadn't allowed them
allowed it to fully come up. And what I have learned, and I I'm one of those people that
has struggled with that as well. And the reason I did is that I thought that even though,
how would I describe this? Um, that I thought not that, that I wasn't allowed to feel negative
emotions. I thought not only did that mean something bad about me, that it was triggered,
but I wasn't allowed to continue to feel it, et cetera. But I had to eventually come to the point
that it was by that because I was feeling it because it's like a detox. Someone else. And I
were talking about that today. It's like a detox and that it feels worse before it feels better.
And the, and the reason that we feel that way is because it exists and that it exists, whether or
not we're feeling it. So it's evidence of the fact it's so the point is it's finally something
that's there is finally evidencing itself that it's there. And the whole point of that is so
that you can finally let it go. But in order to let it go, not only do we have to allow our,
allow that feeling to come up, we have to let it, you know, and show itself. We have to let it kind
of, um, manner of speaking, come to its fullness and come up. And so it can come out. And if we
continue to tell ourselves that that's wrong and I shouldn't feel that way and start condemning
ourselves for the feelings or what's triggered the feelings or whatever it won't, we won't fully face
it and deal with it. So it can be released. If it's coming out, it means it's trying to, it means
it's been.
triggered to be released kind of like toxins in ourselves, how a detox works by going to the,
going to cells, like say for instance, fat cells that are trying to neutralize toxins.
And it goes to those in the body's like, Oh my goodness, it's getting rid of stuff. They're in
a hot bath. It's stuff is getting out of their skin. They're sweating it off or things are being
released to the colon or whatever. Okay. Where do we have those toxins? You know, health let's go
get them open up the fat cells. It releases it all into the bellhead strain to try to get it out.
And it's because it's been triggered to be released. So with those, so that's what our
triggers are. Our triggers are invitations by God to release the thing that we're in bondage in,
that we didn't know we were in bondage in. So we're in bondage to it, whether or not we're
feeling it. It's God's graciousness that allows us to feel it as a, and we're feeling it because
it's actually in kind of like the process, kind of thinking about a child moving into the birth
canal. It's finally moved into position to be able to be released. So we have an opportunity
to either stifle it and pull it back in, or to let, you know, to release ourselves to the process
and let the thing go out. And the way by doing that is to actually kind of what sometimes people
refer to as like ride the wave, like ride it to its fullness and ride it out with the Lord,
not get in the faster and you'll do it faster by not condemning yourself for feeling that way,
not condemning yourself for being triggered, not condemning yourself for the root of the issue,
for the lie that you believe that put it there. Anyway, the longer that we get upset at the
revelation that we have, the longer and more painful, the process of release and letting go
is going to be, if we just succumb to it and we're like, okay, whatever comes, whatever pain,
whatever this process looks like, I'm going to just allow it to be, but we do it with the Lord.
You're not just like sitting there, allowing yourself to just feel all this emotion. You're
going through the process of like letting it go and releasing it to the Lord, but there's nothing.
But my point is, well, what do you do with the feelings that you're feeling while you're
releasing it to the Lord? You fully let it come up and out. It's almost like allowing something
to come to a head or come to its fullness. God talks about this in relationship to sin.
When he says, I'm waiting for sin to come to or wickedness or evil, or I don't remember which
word he uses, to come to its fullness before I address it in my wrath. Talking about, you know,
like the end of days and the end of time, you know, where he's going to come and he's going to deal
with it all. It says he's waiting for wickedness to come to its fullness. And it's that aspect,
you just kind of like allow the thing to come to its fullness so that it can come up and out.
And unfortunately means that we have to feel bad in a way that we don't want to feel bad,
but we're being poisoned by it, whether or not we're feeling bad. So we might as well let it go
so that we're no longer, even when we're not feeling it and it's hiding in the darkness,
we're no longer being poisoned by it because it's now out. So there's nothing wrong with
like all of those negative feelings and feeling them. It's important to allow them to just come
in now because they're just, there's nothing wrong with the feelings because the feelings
are just a thermometer telling you what you already, what you're believing about something
or whatever the feelings themselves, even though they're not comfortable, they're not a sin to
feel. They're actually given by God to be an indication to us, to point us to something,
to alert us to something or, or whatever. Did that answer your question that I address it?
I think that's really helpful. I think, you know, cause I mentioned before,
I'm beginning to realize a lot of my unrest has to do with relationships with other people. And
so the negative emotions are often tied to another person like anger towards someone for the way
they've treated me, et cetera. And so just a quick follow-up question would be, obviously it makes
sense to release up with the Lord and that may be against the other person. So like anger, for
instance, like expressing that towards another person be angry and send not I can connect those
dots. That was really helpful. If you find yourself up against the same trigger, say with the same
person, is there something like, does that mean it hasn't been fully released or is there something
that I could do? Maybe that's not the right question. Cause I find that there's the same
triggers, even though I feel like I forgiven this person or, you know, I've tried to release this.
It could just be, I haven't fully felt the thing that could be it. And I definitely want to try
that. But do you have advice for like reoccurring triggers? So one thing that I want to mention
before I forget about it is you talking about, you know, is it, I don't remember what you said,
but what it prompted me to mention.
is that feeling it to its fullness.
That's what it was.
You said, well, maybe I'm not feeling it to its fullness.
The part of the importance of that is what I talk about when I talk about like
making, um, making decisions in the spirit versus in the soul is the same kind of
principle, our spirit, our soul is kind of like, think of it kind of like a child
and the fact, and you've heard me talk about this, think of it kind of like a
child and the fact that until you allow it to have it say, it's going to yap.
And it's just going to try to get attention.
So the same thing with like a feeling, unless we fully allow it to, to, you
know, if, if, um, cause by the way, God can release us into rest without feeling
the feelings without going through this process, et cetera, but very often we
just go through this process.
God did create a process and things pass through it, et cetera.
So, you know, there's nothing wrong with going through a process,
Jesus pastor process.
So if we find ourselves in a process where we haven't miraculously shifted
into rest, you know, and some inner healing, and we got some inner healing,
you know, without actually knowing what we needed to be healed by, if we actually
know what we need to be healed from, and we're now feeling all this stuff and
we're going through this whole healing process, um, it's, that's what I'm
talking about, where the soul, if the soul decides that it has a, it, it has
something that it wants to say it's, it won't quiet down until we just let it
have it say, so we just let it have it say, in other words, fully face what it
is that we're really, how we really feel.
And so if we haven't let it have that time, it's going to continue because in
a manner of speaking, it's being eaten up until it gets until it's getting the
attention it needs, because kind of like a child, it kind of needs that in order
to start its process of healing.
Have I been heard?
Because you have got to understand it hurt this bad.
Do you know what happened to me?
You know, today it's a, we could think of it kind of like that we do a child
and we can think of it as immaturity and whatever, but the point is it's an
aspect of ourselves that we have to fully face and give it voice, you know,
and, and kind of like honor it, you know, and then it feels heard.
And as soon as it feels heard, it quiets down and then it's a lot easier to hear
the spirit and to hear what it meaning like our spirit, sure.
The Holy spirit, absolutely.
But even our spirit, it's a lot easier to hear because it's more
mature and it's going to sit there quietly unless we're trying to give it
its voice and then it's trying to talk, but then that soul is just yapping.
And it's really hard with all the noise for us to try to discern what am I
feeling in my spirit versus what am I feeling in my soul?
So if we just stop our spirit for just a second and be honest about that other
aspect of ourselves and what it's feeling and allow it to have it say it's a lot.
Um, we can get a lot more deep down healing, um, because we're really,
truly dealing with all aspects of ourselves and allowing all aspects of
ourselves to have had their voice in their part in the healing process, et cetera.
So anyway, that being said that that can be part of like, why, well,
I thought that I've dealt with this, but if the soul didn't feel that it got
what it needed and didn't feel like it, um, anyone listened to it and that
it never got to talk about it.
And Noah was never acknowledged how badly it hurts.
Well, then there's an aspect of ourselves that's never fully healed.
Um, so anyway, there's that, but then I knew I was going to have to do this.
So can you remind me of your question over time?
Well, I think you answered it.
I mean, I was just asking about, you know, what is reoccurring triggers
telling us when you feel like I want to be over this, I've released
this person through forgiveness, but anytime there is a, you know, point
of contact with them, or sometimes even a memory that say I'll use anger.
Cause that's something it's anger builds up and I'm like
annoyed and frustrated again.
Yeah, correct.
There's still an element in that we haven't dealt with
in which we feel threatened.
So just because we have, and we all know that it's just because someone
hurts us and we forgive them.
Doesn't mean that we have to interact with them in situations that
require us giving them our trust.
Right.
So we all know that we don't have to do that.
But the thing is there's an aspect of sometimes like if we're in a
situation where we know, okay, well, I'm not giving them my trust, but I'm
sitting at a table with them and like maybe a whole bunch of other people,
but then they're coming, they're, they're there and we're all, I'm kind
of in their presence, regardless of whether or not it's just me and them,
or it's a whole bunch of other people there, if we're still having an issue,
it can mean that there's some aspect of say, for instance, our identity
or our sense of self-worth or confidence in ourselves and who it is
that we are, that is being, um, that, that, uh, is being threatened
by our history with them.
And so if we, if we, if we, um, Like in like self-worth, et cetera, and
the more that we establish those.
things between us and the Lord, the less that what they do actually bothers us.
So yes, we really have dealt with what it is that we thought that we dealt with.
So like you said, it's just going into a deeper layer.
And I should have prefaced what I said with that.
We're just going into a deeper layer.
And so it's letting us know at some base, at base level, there's something about
human affirmation, maybe from our mom or maybe from a school teacher when we were
young or whatever, that's created this belief in us that we're not quite good
enough unless these ducks all line up in how someone treats me in a church
situation or in a business situation or, or whatever.
Um, and, and that's what it can be triggering.
So God's just revealing that there is a deeper stronghold that it's that the
memory is still triggering and it's beyond simply, uh, it's, it's even deeper
than what it is that we had originally dealt with and that we, you know, shifted
into rest, uh, and whatever.
So it's very, very, very important that we acknowledge to ourselves and, and I
wish I could think of the right word for this, but that we really have, that we
really have chosen and, um, what it is, uh, and, and shifted and changed and learned
or whatever, what it is that we thought that we did that we really did die.
And the way that we thought that we did, we really did trust the Lord.
So for, if we're doing it again, it just means that we're being, um, that there
was a deeper, a deeper level that's now being exposed that wasn't exposed before
because there was all this.
But now that we've dealt with that, now this layer is exposed, et cetera.
Um, so, and, and the way that Edwards that is, um, you know, I always talk
about going deeper, but one of the ways that he expresses it is this feeling of
like going around the mountain.
He said, we really are doing that, but it's at a higher level this time.
So in other words, we really are improving, so to speak.
And I really don't like to use that word, but we really are improving.
We really did make progress.
It's just a different level of the mountain.
So as opposed to, you know, thinking, well, I've already been on the side of
the mountain last time.
And does this mean it didn't work last time?
No, you're just seeing it at a higher elevation.
Super helpful.
Thank you.
You're welcome.
Um, okay.
So did Liberty, did you have a question?
Oh, Nick, sorry, Nick.
Oh, you're not on video, but always the whole time.
I'm so sorry.
Y'all got caught.
Um, the whole time questions been asking and been answered.
Oh, um, for weeks now, oops, for weeks now I've been hearing there's no
butthole of the soul.
That is fascinating.
Never heard that before.
I now have a new phrase.
Okay.
Which I debated on sharing.
Oh, it's great to share.
I'm going to share that with Ed.
He's going to love it.
He's probably going to use it now, but it's a saying that your sister shared
with me from her spiritual mama.
And it's very forward, but true.
I think the Lord, those are Ed's favorites, by the way.
I think the Lord was preparing me for this question because Ashley is talking
about exactly what I've been dealing with and how the stem must come up and out.
Oh, okay.
So we've already been talking about it.
Okay.
I thought that maybe you had a new question, but that's great.
I'm glad that this is resonating.
Another reason why I want to spend more of our time on like either live
Q and A's or live interaction.
Cause a friend of mine, one of the ladies who's been in the rest
intensive, she mentioned that the reason that she liked the live videos.
Cause I asked her, you know, what do you think about the live videos versus
the recording, you know, as far as the effectiveness for people on the
receiving end.
And she said, one of the reasons she likes the live videos is it's getting
fresh spirit from me in the moment.
And she said, sometimes I'll be teaching about something that I've taught,
you know, dozens and dozens and dozens of times.
So I'm thinking, Oh, I'm just doing the same teaching.
But she said, actually we'll go on these rabbit trails and the rabbit
trails that you think are like, you know, you're going off script.
You're like, Oh, I'm so sorry for wasting everybody's time.
People will come back to it.
She said, those rabbit trails would be what I needed to hear that week.
So, um, that's why I wanted to do a bit more live stuff.
Okay.
So she, he said, my question would be, how do I face these overwhelming
emotions and grief without being terrified?
Or what do I do when I'm terrified so that I can comfort myself that this
is good and not a sign of bad.
Um, one of the things that we're used to is we're used to being, um, for
one thing, like I said, with Lindsay, we're used to thinking, feeling
badly about ourselves if we feel bad.
So we think that it's saying something about us.
If we have that feeling, if we have anger, if we have whatever, but
remember, God doesn't create bad things.
Okay.
Some point Roman seven, he said, even the law itself is holy.
So God doesn't create.
So if God created the law, including the tree of the knowledge of good and
evil, you know, that God doesn't.
not create bad things.
Um, so just because we're feeling a particular way, doesn't make the
feeling that God created us to be able to have, to be bad.
So it's not bad.
To feel that way.
It's trying to tell you something about like some belief that you have, some fear
that you have or whatever, and all that the invitation, all of these things are
whenever we're suffering in pain, um, like, uh, or whenever we're, we're
struggling in any area, all that those things are is, you know, we're so used
to thinking of them as like lessons that, or tests, I should say tests of like,
God has been teaching us all this stuff.
And then he gives us a test.
And how do you recognize that you're in a test where you're in a lot of pain
and you get a lot of suffering and you're going through really bad
experiences and, and whatever.
And we just think, oh my word, God's testing us.
Oh my Kenneth, let's pull back in my files and my experiences with the Lord
and try to figure out what has he taught me that he's now giving me a test for.
To know what to apply to this situation, to fix it and to pass it appropriately.
And that's just not what I believe is going on.
What it is is these are, they're always invitations by God going through pain
and suffering is invitations by God to, to shift in from bondage.
Cause that's why we're feeling the pain and the suffering to
shift from bondage into freedom.
Because whether or not we've been alerted, like even prior to having
the feeling prior to being alerted, that there was this issue within us
that we've not been triggered by.
It was within us poisoning us.
There was some belief that we had that was poisoning us and
we didn't know it was there.
And so the, the, the feeling that comes up allows us to know.
Oh, now I'm alerted that there is actually some aspect in which I
am in bondage and I didn't know.
So now I have the opportunity to let it go.
Now I have the opportunity to no longer be in bondage to that because
there's aspects of our life that we're, we're taking that bondage and we
are pouring into those aspects of various aspects of life out of that
bondage and it's poisoning those aspects of life, it's damaging them.
It's destroying them.
It's just destroying our experience with them.
It's, and we have no idea if no idea.
So God's like child are, I know that you're in pain.
You've always been in bondage.
Wouldn't you like to be free?
That's all that they are.
All of these things are simply invitations from a loving kind God, not to pass a test
and let's see if you learn what it is that I've taught you.
And, you know, you know, as if, because what is, what picture does that give us?
We're abandoned and alone and separated by from God and we better get it right.
You know, and that's just not the case.
God's like, Hey, look, child, you're always with me.
I've never left you.
I'm always holding you.
We're always one.
We're always intimate, but you've been in bondage, your life that you're
operating out of a way and having a particular life experience in bondage.
Wouldn't you like to experience aspect those aspects of your life in freedom?
Wouldn't you like to, to have the spirit of life flowing through you in that area
into those areas of life that are now currently being fed by death from your
Wouldn't you like to pour life from your spirit into those areas?
So that's what that shows.
So my point is that that's why we shouldn't be afraid.
They're not saying that, that they're, that we're bad people because we feel
that way because that we feel angry because someone did something to us that
we feel afraid and that's why we did a sin, you know, who it is that we are.
Remember is our spirit.
Our flesh is operating out of fear that it's been abandoned and alone, and it
is all by itself to protect itself, that our spirit won't protect it, that it's
not safe with its own spirit, but alone with God, you know, and, um, so it is
operating out of self-protection, trying to take care of you in the best way
that it knows how the problem is.
It thinks that separation from God will protect you doing it on its own will
and we have to choose, make a different choice.
You have to choose.
No, God is our protection.
God is our safety.
So in other words, my point in saying all of that is to create context for just
because we have feelings and it reveals to us that we've been believing something
wrong and other words that we've been sending, because sin is simply unbelief.
Sin is not the action.
Sin is the unbelief that the action resulted from so that.
We have some measure of unbelief, but remember that measure of unbelief is in
your flesh, not in your spirit and your identity is in your spirit.
So there's still nothing wrong with who you are.
It just means that there's an aspect in which you're not believing God.
And so God is allowing you to be in this situation for you to actually finally be
free in an area that you weren't free in before, but it's not going to give you a
greater connection with God by getting free than you had before.
You've always had it and you always will, because remember it's in your spirit.
So you're not doing something to gain more access, so to speak with God, you're
already unified with him, but being in bondage means that there are, there's a
resistance that you are actively doing in your unbelief to experiencing God and
God's like, wouldn't you like to remove it so that you can experience more of the
union, but it doesn't mean that you don't have the union.
It means that you're not allowing yourself to experience it.
And so by shifting, by releasing the bondage and shifting into freedom and
you know, well, yeah, I was going to go somewhere with that, but I'll just leave
it there to, by doing that, you're allowing yourself to experience more of
what God said he's already given you.
He's already given you everything he can give you.
He's already given you all the gifts.
He's already given you all the access to him.
We're the ones who are choosing whether or not we'll be vulnerable enough, open
enough to allow those, to allow ourselves to be absorbed very vulnerably and out of
control into him to the point where we can finally experience all those things.
And so that's what the bondage is.
The bondage is keeping us from being able to experience them, but
we're not gaining more of God.
We're simply removing the fact that we're not allowing ourselves to experience that
more, God's already given it all and he can't give any more if he's already given
us himself, if we're literally inside himself, we have access to it all.
So anyway, um, that I say all of that to explain that there's no re that there's
no foundation, um, in order to remove the thing that we have always founded our
terror in, that there's something wrong with us that is creating separation from
God and that God is looking on me to make sure that I get it right or that, um, I'm
abandoned and alone.
And so I've got to face this horrible thing, this anger, this fear, this whatever.
And it's, and because God won't take care of me, or I can't trust that he's going
to, then, like I said, you know, then I'm all alone and sure I'm afraid of the
consequences of dealing with this situation.
I'm afraid of my, the conflict in this relationship.
I'm afraid of what they're going to do to me.
I'm afraid of the potential of, you know, lack of finances, or I'm afraid of
whatever we're afraid because we don't trust that we're provided for and
protected already, we, we associate and found our sense of provision and
protection on our lifestyle.
Do I have money?
Do I not have money?
Do I have this?
Do I not have this?
That is telling me whether or not I'm okay.
And it, and it's not, it doesn't.
And we have to choose that.
It's not telling us whether or not we're okay.
And God will bring us to the point where we don't have the thing.
We don't have the relationship.
We don't have the money.
We don't have the food.
I've been there.
We don't have the whatever.
And God says, okay, now that you don't have it, who do you say that I am now
that I haven't manifested in evidence, what you call in your world provision.
Now that I haven't met your standard, who do you say that I am?
And I have to release this from being my standard of whether or not God is provider.
And I choose as my standard that he's provider, simply the fact that he said it
and it releases him of the oblet.
And I've been released some of the, in order to do that, I have to release him
from the obligation of ever giving of ever manifesting the old thing that I
used to use to determine whether or not he was providing for me.
And so, and the way that I have, um, that a way that I've had to do that
is God's put me in the situations where there was no thing.
There was no provision.
There was no, what it felt like safety.
There was no protection or whatever.
Now in that place, God's like, who do you say that I am?
You have got to disassociate me from your experiences.
You've got to, in that is the only.
way that you can, that I can be, that you will allow me to be bigger than your experiences.
Because if you choose your experiences over me, you're making them more, you're giving them the
authority to be the highest power in your life. And so if they're not there for you,
you don't have any power. In other words, you don't, you won't be protected. You know,
you won't be safe. But if you choose me over your circumstances, if you choose me over your
experience, then I can bring in the higher power of the kingdom of heaven. So, um, and I've been
talking, I think I've been missing your, your texts. I'm so sorry. Um, let's see. So I'm trying
to make sure that I, I, uh, go all the way back. Okay. Here we go. My question would be, okay,
I got that. Um, I'm wondering, sorry, I'm catching up on the chat. It's really fast.
Yes. Let's do it. The pain's getting trapped. Uh, yeah, that's a great way to see that Lindsay.
Fascinating. Yeah. And then revealing for the healing, going to look at that.
Um, I've been told, okay. So I've been told multiple times that I have spirit of fear or
spirit of this and that there have been invitations for demonic deliverance and intense sessions
where people scream from the mouth and all this stuff. So how do we, so then invitations for
deliverance intense sessions. So by that, I'm, I'm assuming that you meant you were in those
situations where you were seeing all of that, and then they were inviting you to, to present
yourself for deliverance. I'm assuming that's what you meant. Um, and all this stuff. So how do we
differentiate between those good emotions and our release from bondage and demonic spirits? So
I don't know. I suppose that that's, um, that is a really great question, by the way, to ask
Ed, I wish you were here. Um, but I, so the thing is, would you clarify that question for me?
Because I could go two different directions with that one. So I've also experienced people think
everything is deliverance issue. Yes. They see a team and under every rock associated being scared
and out of control and pain trauma and release with potential. Oh, okay. This probably answers
my question. I've associated feeling scared and out of control and pain and trauma released with
potential, uh, demonic, uh, presence at such a tightly wound ball of life. Okay. So, uh, honestly,
the demonic is usually the last place that I go. Um, it's absolutely, you know, a very real thing.
And I've watched demonic deliverance. I was watching, I watched it actually last Sunday.
That was really fascinating. Um, and Ed has a lot of experience with it. In fact, I just went to
dinner with a gentleman who is known as one of the, what would you say that the, one of the top
experts on, um, on demonic deliverance in the world, actually, it's really fascinating. And so
he has seen everything. So he's a really fun to pick people's pick his brain, but, um, and he just
accidentally landed in it. He's actually known as known for in the prophetic world. And, but because
he was very frustrated with why certain things weren't working and he discovered there was
demonic presences presence. And so he would, he got to learn how to, how to help people deal with
that. So that's how he landed in it. Um, but now he's become, people are so fascinated by the
demonic. That's what he's become known for, even though he's very, very, very strong prophetic.
Um, so yeah, so feeling scared, you know, and out of control and stuff like that.
Um, like he, like Kate mentioned, a lot of times people just want to see a demon under every rock.
That really honestly is the last resort, especially for a very strong spirit filled, um, uh, believer.
It's usually just, there's an aspect of unbelief. Also the demonics often has an anchor in a strong
hold. There's a reason that, that it's there. It has something to be able to attach to very often.
It's the, some kind of an unbelief. So if you deal with that unbelief and those things, um, can, um,
can release whether it's in demonic stronghold or it's a, I don't know, just, um, some kind of a,
a negative feeling, um, the effects of, of traumatic abuse, et cetera. Um, they're being
anchored by that and, um, by the unbelief. Um, and so once you, once you choose to give the authority
of God to that part of your life and you choose God over that lie, well, then it releases that
anchor and that anchor releases. And the thing that it was attached to, and that gave it right
or authority to be in your life goes away. Um, so, um, anyway, the, I would, I would tell you
that it's, it's not like it's impossible or something. It's usually, um, not the issue
is, is that the demonic creating some kind of an issue is creating some kind of a problem really
is not the issue, at least the point of meeting major deliverance. If there's some kind of like,
quote unquote, demonic oppression or whatever.
There's just this constant attack that can be dispelled by choosing, you know, belief in the
Lord by choosing very radically in to choose him over your fear, to choose that he is a higher
priority to you than holding onto your fear or to protecting your, or to protect yourself or.
Whatever, even, and I was talking to some people about this today, maybe even yesterday.
That God chooses you over, you know, what it is that you do. You're more important to him
than the choices that you're making or the faith or the belief that you're having or whatever.
So you need to choose yourself as being who God says that you are as more important than,
than, um, and more kind of like powerful, if you will, incredible.
Then this other thing that has been a priority like fear or feeling even oppressed by fear,
let alone, you know, tormented by it or whatever. It's just, it's not something you're obligated
to hold onto. So you can choose a higher priority in your life. What does God say?
And who is God? And that is a higher priority to me to live by and to risk everything on
than to protect myself through this traumatic fear or this, whatever.
I hope that that makes sense. There's obviously much more we could say about that, but I'm trying
to gather the, um, the unders my understanding, you know, from words. Um, so, and if, and if I
haven't answered, you can either, um, you can just let me know in the comments or you can.
Okay. Okay. Good. That's really, really good news. Yeah. It's, it's everything with the Lord
always, always, always, always, always without exception moves us into more love and freedom,
period, not condemnation, not wrath, not bad news, not difficulty, not more trauma,
not harder work, not more exertion, more effort, more energy required of us. It's always less,
but the less is simply giving it to him and choosing him over everything that we've been
carrying, making, holding onto him more important to us and more valuable than holding onto this
thing. That's, that's the thing that makes this feel hard is because we've been using these things
to give us a sense of safety, but following the Lord and making these decisions is extremely easy.
It's not complicated, but we have to, and all it takes is a choice. But if we're holding onto this,
because we value this more than we value him, well, then we're going to find it very hard to
let go of this thing and to follow God as he's telling us to him, whatever, because, oh my goodness,
why does he make it so hard? Because he said, you can't hold onto this. Just let it go. That's it.
It's very, very easy, but we keep trying to do the, okay, let me follow God, but still do,
still do this. And God's like, you can't do that. So no wonder you find the Christian life hard.
You know, you can't do both. They won't, they don't reconcile. And so we keep, we keep thinking
that it's very, it's very challenging. So everything with the Lord leads us into more love
and freedom, everything, everything. So think, think of that with any difficulty and any pain,
it's always, always, always, always, always, always, always without exception, an invitation to move
into more love, more freedom, um, less, less oppression, less weight because God, you know,
no lack. No, it always, it's not more condemnation. It's not this revelation of the Holy spirit. So
you'll feel more bad about yourself. No, they're all invitations to let the thing go. It's like,
you don't have to live like this. If you want to live like this, you can, you know, that's what
God, you know, uh, you know, how God, I believe that God interacts with us. If this is what,
if you want to hold onto the thing, if you're experiencing all this pain and all the suffering,
you want to hold onto it. That's fine. You know, I'll still talk to you and we'll still do things
together and we'll still have relationship that won't change, but you're not going to get to
receive. And you're not going to get to experience everything that I've already given you while
still holding on to all of that. So it's your choice in what kind of a life you want to experience
with me and how much of me you want to experience, but that's your choice, but I've already given you
everything. And I'm just to talk to you, you know, we're going to still do stuff. You know,
I still got plans. We're still doing together. So it's up to you as to whether or not you want
to release it. I'm not giving you more of myself by if you do something, this is not an exchange
program. I've already done it all. There's nothing left for me to do because I've already done it
all. And I'm
now and rest is remember on the seventh day, he worked six days and then he rested.
God is now in rest.
There's nothing left for him to do because he already done it all.
And so he's like, and there's nothing left for you to do either.
Cause I've already done it all.
So the thing is, wouldn't you like to experience more of it?
So that's, that's all that it is.
So, and we are already at 10, but before we go, does anyone have just anything
that absolutely has to be answered tonight?
Yeah, go ahead.
All right.
It's, it's along the same stream.
Um, now that we have permission to feel, and now that we have permission to let
it surface and to fix it, um, and to, for the Lord to come in and face it with him.
Um, I think for a long time, I, more so years ago, I was like, I would observe
all these things, I'm a big justice person.
I'm like, that's not right.
You can't treat people like that.
That's not okay.
So I would just tell everyone, I just be like, that's super messed up.
Like, don't do that anymore.
That didn't go over super well.
So then I think I swung to the opposite and I was like, oh, well,
I just won't confront anything.
I won't tell anybody it's my issue.
I'm really pursuing this unoffendable life.
Is that like possible?
Right.
And, um, and so then I think I just shoved down all the things.
Cause I'm like the repercussions, if I address it, if I have a
conversation about it, if it's a repeat offender, if it's a family
if they're just like constantly doing these self-centered things
or whatever the case is, there's so many examples.
Um, at what point is it permissible or, or like, I mean, it's so
circumstantial, but to actually have these conversations with, with
somebody that the that's causing these triggers, yeah, um, really great
question and it's after you let it go.
So here's why, and we'll talk about it when we talk about, uh, when y'all
get to session five, I believe session five.
No, that's not.
I think it's like session.
Oh, wow.
I think it's session seven.
Anyway, I think it might be the last session and that is practical
shifting tools that you can use in order to shift into rest.
And one of them is no, what I refer to as no judgment.
And that is what we're doing is we're judging a situation.
We're saying it shouldn't be like this.
It should be different.
Whether, uh, and it should be a lot, it could be something like I've
sinned and oh my word, I shouldn't have done that.
And I cause this problem and that shouldn't be in me.
You know, it should be different, or it could be someone's done
something to us or to someone else.
They shouldn't have done that.
It shouldn't be like that.
It should be different.
And we're judging the situation, but here's the problem.
If we're in a state of unrest, it means that, um, oh, wow.
We haven't gotten to this, this, uh, part yet.
Um, it's, um, uh, how do I explain this really quickly?
Okay.
Um, and Matt, so we are, you know, we're spirit, soul, and body
and our identity is in our spirit.
But if we believe that that's not who we are and that we're actually
this big problem that we're this, that we're our flesh, that we're
either our body or we're our soul.
Who is like basically the gatekeeper and the decision maker of like, well, are
we going to choose to believe God or not?
Our spirit, our identity, it's already chosen to believe God.
It's never known anything, but it's already dealt with it.
The gateway, if we believe that the part of ourselves that is allowed is
choosing whether or not to agree with the spirit and allow the whole thing
to be, um, uh, to, you know, express into the physical form, who it is
that God says that we are, if we think that we're that, or we think that
we're in the body, then we're in a state in a state of unrest, right?
And that's where we think we've got, we, and that's, and us believing
that our identity is not in our spirit.
And we believe instead it's in our solar and our body comes from the fact that we
have been, um, that we don't believe that God is who he says that he is or that,
um, uh, that we, sorry, again, these are like whole hour teachings.
I'm trying to summarize them really fast.
Uh, that, that, and, and therefore there's something about God that
we're not believing for instance, that we're not safe, that I can't
believe that person said that to me.
You know, well, this isn't right.
And I'm not okay.
And I'm not safe and I need to protect myself because, oh my goodness,
they could go tell other people or, you know, you know, or I don't know.
I feel, I feel emotionally threatened and, you know, it's bringing
up all of these issues, et cetera.
For whatever, whatever's triggering it, triggering it.
And whatever our, um, our foundation is that, that we've, um, that we're
focusing on, we are in a state of unrest.
If we're in a state of unrest, it means again, that we believe that
are, that we're in a state of unbelief.
And we believe, we don't believe that we are who God says that we are.
And okay.
So that, that being said, then that means that remember that we're not in a place
then that we can make a righteous.
judgment. We're not in a position where that God has, that is no position that God has given
the authority to, to make a judgment call and to speak it out into the earth.
Now God has given us the ability to be judges, but here's the only time in which we can be a
judge with his authority. And that is if we, because Jesus is in the, is on the judgment
seat, right? Jesus has been given authority over everything. Everything is under his feet,
except it says God, the father. So everything is under his feet. He has power and authority
over everything. He's the one that, that God gave the right to judge the earth. Not while
he was on the earth. Remember he said, I didn't come to judge the earth, but once he rose again,
God gave him all power and authority because he on earth, he didn't require God. Jesus didn't
require it. He found what is that verse? And he said, he found, uh, he gave up his, um, oh man,
nevermind. I'm not going to quote that quote, the verse, because I'm mixing King James with like,
with like, uh, international, uh, with, uh, American standard version or something.
So anyway, so forget that. But the thing is basically said that I don't have a right to claim
my position that I had in heaven. I give up that right to be down here, right? And once he did that,
and once he died, and once he sacrificed everything, God said, and then he died ultimate
obedience to the Lord. God said, okay, now that you've done that, I will put you in a seat
of power and authority where you now have the right to judge. So that's where God is. So Jesus
has the right to judge and guess where you are. Guess where your spirit is. It is one with Christ.
It is seated on that judgment throne. And it's only when you are operating in oneness with Christ,
where you are seeing things from his perspective, where the two of you co-counseling together,
where you reveal, get revealed by the Lord, that you have the right to speak into this situation
because you're seeing it now from God's eyes. Now you can judge the situation, but here's the thing.
We have to follow the same process that Jesus followed. And I felt like I'm not doing a really
good job explaining all of this, because again, this is like something I usually take hours worth
to like lay out. And then I'm trying to say it very succinctly, but hopefully it's coming across.
And that is the thing that just like what Jesus did, he had to give it up completely
and not require it. And then God said, okay, now I'll give it to you, but I won't give it to you.
If you're clamoring for it, asking it, you know, demanding it, whatever you have to completely
die and let it go. You have to let it go. And now that you've let it go, now that you've
emotionally released it, now that you, uh, no longer hold an emotional obligation against it
or emotionally or, or hold a, hold it before the Lord in like accusation, et cetera.
How could you have done this? Et cetera, et cetera. Now that you've let it all go, God's like, okay,
now I can trust you to make an objective judgment from the eyes and the heart of Christ.
Because you have now removed yourself emotionally from the situation. So to speak, I, anyway,
like I said, I usually lay this out a lot, a lot better. There is, um, there's a teaching on it,
you know, that'll be coming up that kind of lays a bit more of a foundation, but that's why we're
not in a position to judge it from the heart of Christ and from a godly from the spirit. That's
what I'm trying to say down here. The only way that we can judge things is by the law, by the
tree of the knowledge of good and evil, what's right. And what's wrong. And what's the law.
And what are the 10 commandments say? And any non-believer can do that. That's why we all read
psychology books and books on relationships. And if those are not speaking about how to do
things in the spirit, all it is that they're teaching people to do is how to approach things
and judge situations and call things out according to the law, according to the knowledge of good and
evil, which by the way, does not have the spirit in it. It has nothing to offer, but death.
So if you want to give life to this situation, you have to let go ever judging it. You have to
stop. You have to let go of, of requiring that it should be different than what it is
and just allow it to be. And then it doesn't mean that you're saying that it's right. Again,
that's making a judgment. You can't, you're not saying it's right. You're not saying it's wrong.
You're giving up your right to it.
into you emotionally, holding God again, you know, holding it against God or
holding against the other person, even holding against the other person that
by the way, is forgiveness.
All forgiveness is, is letting go.
That's all that it is.
Um, and which we could talk about that some other times somebody wants to, anyway,
the only way that God will put you in a position from which you can rightly
judge is if you let it go first, if you know, don't require it of God, if you
don't, if you release ever having to do it, I've had to do this in very serious
situations, I've been sued in business.
Um, not in the rest of this is back when I was doing business, uh, consulting
and stuff like that, and they accused us in laws of stuff that we didn't do.
And they sued us to court.
It was horrible on my word.
Even our lawyer was operating against us.
He was in cahoots with the other lawyer we found out.
And the two of them were just trying to get the most money out of the
situation that they could.
It was wild.
We saw the underbelly of the court system.
It was horrible.
And, um, and so what we had to do was we had to completely release it.
And so God then walked me through a process where I eight years to the day.
That I left that, that, that I had been, and that I had been
forced to leave the property.
I went back to the property and because of the situation, because of the way that
it had changed, God, uh, had allowed me to literally stand on the spot on the
spot of the property where they had plotted against us, they plotted all
those lies and try to plant things against us, et cetera, by the way we,
um, it was settled out of court when they finally realized that they weren't
going to win with the lies and that we had enough evidence, you know, that we
hadn't done what they said that they do.
And anyway, so it settled all out of court years later, I was still
traumatized, I was still traumatized driving down the highway, seeing the
street name because these people who literally were my friends that I spent
more time with, I would spend like 14 hours a day with these people all day,
every day, you know, pouring into them, et cetera.
And then when they turn around and betray you like that, you know, it's
very, very hurtful, dragged you through the court system.
It was horrible anyway.
So I literally got to stand on the place on the, in the place on the, on the
property, in a place where people had plotted against us and I was able to,
and the Lord walked me through process where I release, I forgave them by
releasing them of any obligation to me for an, any, and, um, for what it is
that they had done, I'd also release them from having to spiritually bear any
consequences, well, it's not spiritually.
It's not really what it was.
It was any, any consequences in business.
Like I told the Lord, if they are bearing consequences, like say, for instance,
their business isn't going well, or people are dying, people were dying by
the way, all of the people who came in my boss's position after we committed
suicide, it was, it was, it was terrifying.
The stuff that was going on.
One of our really good friends committed suicide by a cop.
And, um, that had been with us at that, at that business, it
was a horrible spiritual fallout.
So anyway, I asked God, God, will you now?
And I felt this from the Lord, which is the only way that I was able to do this.
Cause you can't do all this on your own because you never know what
God wants to do in their lives.
Right?
So, but I felt what God told me to do is he said, Ashley,
I want you to release them.
I'm like, okay, so God, I ask you that neither me nor you nor themselves,
nor the spirit realm, meaning like Satan or anybody who's trying to come
against them and use them and whatever.
None of them can hold their actions towards me against them.
And that they, that I now Lord asked that any, any resistance to their
business prospering be removed.
And so the way that I was able to do that was when I came to a position,
finally, where I can make a judgment call, ask God, you know, because,
you know, not a judgment call.
I could be, I would seated more in the, in the seat of judgment I'd released.
I just kind of released them in my heart.
Okay.
Lord, you know, you know, I released them.
Then the Lord said, okay, actually now see them through my eyes and through my
heart and listen to what I want to do in this situation.
And so sometimes it's like, Hey, Ashley, you know, they, they need to have, um,
they're going to be bearing spiritual consequences and dah, dah, dah.
And they had been, my goodness, how many people had died?
Right.
But he said, okay, now, Ashley, I want you to release them.
That is my heart for them.
It's mercy.
It's been eight years.
It's been long enough.
They've suffered enough.
There's been enough lives lost.
I, you are the only one he said that has the authority to release them because
you are the one that they had come against.
You are the one that had the right in the.
court system to leave them off the hook or to or to bring prosecution. I'm telling you what my
heart is for the situation and I'm inviting you to carry it out. Like, yeah, I want to look like
my father and I release them. But that was their own unique situation. That's not how everything
goes. But you we are all called to release them like by by forgiving them. But how the Lord house
as then exact judgment, the type of judgment that the Lord then requires to be carried out,
that he allows us to partner with him. This is not my decision, by the way. This is me counseling
with the Lord. Lord, what's your heart? What do you want me to do in the knee here on earth? I'll
partner with your desire and I'll actually do it on earth. So I literally went to the place and did
it. But Lord, what do you want me to do? I'm not taking up my, you know, some spiritual authority
like I'm going to make a judgment call. Lord, no, that's not my authority. It's only operating
in oneness and unity with Christ where I hear Christ's heart. Christ, what is your judgment
call? And what judgment do you as a righteous judge who judges out of love, not wrath?
What do you want to do? And I'll care and I'll partner with you and I will carry it out.
So anyway, but that's a very extreme situation. But the reason I wanted to mention that is when
I tell you these things, because I don't know what situation you're going through, it might be very
emotionally traumatic. It might be your mother. I don't know. You haven't told me. I'm just telling
you, it might be your mother. It might be, you know, it might be, uh, your boyfriend. I don't
know if you're dating, you know, it could, in other words, someone that actually is the closest
to your heart that hurts the most. That's my point. And I'm telling you as bad as it feels,
or as hard as it might feel to actually do the thing, then, or it could be like Lindsey's
situation where Lindsey was telling us in her testimony, you know, I've had these horrible,
you know, situations with like spiritual leaders in my life. I mean, that's traumatic, you know,
spiritual leaders. Right. And so I don't know how, how deeply that this is affecting you and
how close to home. I just wanted to use an extreme example, which is one of many, many, many, many,
many examples that I could give you an extreme example to let you know what I'm talking about
as hard as it can feel to do. It's that powerful. It can be applied to any situation because
releasing this to the Lord will allow the kingdom of heaven to operate in authority in an extremely
powerful way on earth that nothing can prevail against it. It has higher power than any intense
power that presents itself on earth. So anyway, really gave you a long story there, but did that
help? Okay. All right. Um, yes, you cannot make a righteous judgment and unrest. Yes. It's very
nice. So I need to have Lindsey teach this. Okay. Um, you do, um, okay.
I'm just sharing what's resonating, what you're saying, like that really stuck. I need to sit
with that.
Yeah. But still, you know, you and Ed, you can just like summarize what I say very well. I'm like,
that's succinct speaking there for me. I'm a verbal processor and you see how I teach is how
I just, I like see like hundreds of puzzle pieces and I just make, and I make connections. And so
the way I speak is in such a way is to provide y'all with the, with, um, the opportunity to own
this for yourself, as opposed to simply just hearing me spout out like principles and ideas
is because the, the, the concern that I have is that y'all are going to take them like formulas.
Okay. I've got to remember what Ashley said. No, you don't, you not have to remember what I said.
You just have to understand the concept enough where, where, um, as you look in the Bible,
you know, when, as you listen to your spirit, God, you understand when God starts talking to
you and, you know, in your own spirit, what he's saying so that you can own it for yourself.
And you don't, and I don't have to have mentioned this particular example in order for you to find
a completely different scenario that you find yourself in and have to know, oh, my word,
Ashley didn't mention this example. So I don't know what to do. These things aren't formulas.
There are ideas and concepts that I want y'all to grasp and own to the point that when you
experience an, a very unexpected, uh, scenario or experience, you know, how to apply the principles
that God speaks to your situation because you understand the principle you, it's not a formula
that you have to know the exact example to plug it into, et cetera. You understand the concept and
now you can apply it to anything. So basically I do the same thing in the rest intensive that I've
told my bosses, I'm here to work myself out of a job. I was a process improvement specialist,
and that was my job to literally work myself out at them ever needing me.
And so I do the same thing in the rest intensive, I get everything, get it to y'all to the point where y'all can own it for yourselves.
So, that's why you need to understand it in your own language and your own based on your own background, etc. So, anyway.
Okay, well I will let y'all go and I will see y'all what is today today's Thursday so I will see y'all on Sunday for another live q amp a then we'll do the rest groups on Tuesdays I think that that's what we'll do.
And I will.
Also, I will be opening up all of the teachings in the in y'all pretty caught in the rest intensive members page so remember you go to the enter his read enter his dot rest login make sure to log in because if you don't log if you don't log in you won't
log into your account. And once you've logged into your account, then you can go to rest intensive program on the top menu, scroll in and look at the drop down and you'll see rest intensive members so if you click on that because you're a rest intensive
member you'll have access to that page and you have for a lifetime, it's all yours. I will open up all of those teachings because right now if you only click on, you can only click on I think, to, and and they're active.
I will make them all active you go at your own pace. And, and so, anyway, if you have any questions, you know, we'll be doing live q amp a's etc so in the for those of you who haven't made a second post this week, and just, I would just make it before
our next live q amp a.
And Christina see that you've already done it, so you're good until the next q amp a, I realized that I don't like it between Tuesdays and Thursdays it's entirely too fast.
And, but, so anyway, just to post week so just do one between now and Sunday, and, and remember the whole point of that is to help y'all to force you to stop and articulate for yourself.
And I promise you, it will help you shift faster and more effectively the more that you invest into those times are really thinking about what's going on invulnerably expressing it.
I promise you from experience of walking many many many many many people through this, that it will really really help so you're investing in yourself you're not giving something to me.
You're just investing yourself so anyway, if y'all have any questions, let me know, and I'll see you later. Bye.