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I apologize. I had some major technical difficulties. I got here and then couldn't hook up to the

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internet. So thankfully we live and work and go to church and have our entire social lives

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in one building. And I ran back to the apartment, got to let, it's not fair. So you got it for

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me and I ran back. So anyway, I am, hopefully we will have it all set up next time. And that's

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because last time I realized that doing the wifi wouldn't work because it was just so slow. It was

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just raw frozen and everything. So Ed told me, I have a hookup. And I was like, okay. He said,

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it's in my office and it wasn't. So he sweetly found it for me. So, okay. So anyway, we have

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arrived. I'm trying to make sure everybody, nobody's waiting on me. I think finally everybody's

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in. It's good to see everybody. Okay. Let's see here. I know. Doesn't my lighting still look good?

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I'm so excited. I'm like, now I can look professional like Lindsay and Bruce do.

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So, and I have a, I have a tech session set up with Bruce on or Caroline or I'm on

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Tuesday, I think. So anyway. All right. So who would like,

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you're so funny. So who would like to start us out with something? I don't know if y'all got a

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chance that I had done a couple, I'd caught up on a couple of questions that Cicely had wonderfully

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asked in the chat or not the chat, the, you know, rest group, rest intensive Facebook group.

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And so I'd finally gotten a chance to answer those today on my walk around the lake.

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But anyway, so does anyone have anything they would like to start us out with? Yes. Go ahead,

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Christine. Unmute myself. I have a question and Lindsay, I was, I didn't quite get to finish your

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video, but it was really good, you know, about that sense of safety and depending on God for that.

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And I can really relate to that. And I, I wrote in my journey sharing about,

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you know, not feeling safe at work, though there's no reason to feel unsafe. And then,

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you know, I've been, I was thinking about, you know, trauma and I'm wondering, well, I had,

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you know, I've dealt with trauma I had as a child. I had a schizophrenic father.

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So it was crazy. But, you know, I've counseling and dealing with inner healing and all sorts of

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things. And then starting in August, I had this bout with breast cancer. And I'm wondering is,

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is that, can that be kind of a trauma when you have surgery and all, I mean, get poked?

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You know, I was poked four times in the breast and, you know, like the biopsy, then they,

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um, before the surgery, they put in this thing called a savvy scout. And it is like,

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with a remote control, the surgeon can find where the cancer is, where the tumor is,

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is quite amazing. And then they put in, before the surgery, they put in isotopes.

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And that was very painful. And then because I got the time mixed up on when I could eat,

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I couldn't do that surgery. So then I had to have those isotopes put in again, but it wasn't so

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painful that time. But, you know, the whole thing of safety and, you know, I was, I was trying to

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tell somebody.

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how I felt through this because I would just feel like crying, but usually I can express

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what my emotions are. But I haven't been able to, you know, I would just feel like crying

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and I'm not afraid of dying. I know God is taking care of me, but just this emotion of,

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and I don't, you know, I really don't know what it is, but I guess I'm asking, you know,

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how does, you know, and the whole sense of safety thing, you know, you know,

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and now I have to go through radiation therapy and that, you know, isn't going to be pleasant

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either. But how do I get to the point of just feeling safe in God about everything in my life?

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And, you know, when there's things around me that I don't feel, maybe I don't feel safe, you know?

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Yeah. So you're, yeah. And trying to think it, I always try to think of how to answer

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the most succinctly as possible. Sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't, but I,

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it's, it's honestly everything that we've already talked about. I'm just trying to think of how to

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word it in a way that'll help us all understand the, when I've been dealing with things,

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cause you remember that I try to word things in such a way that y'all can understand

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what y'all are going through while you're going through it and kind of like have words to

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articulate a moment or a, or a season in the journey or something like that. But I didn't

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But I didn't have that. And so what I had to do is because I didn't have much of an anchor point

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of like, okay, well, this is how I need to deal with it. For instance, what we've been talking

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about, like negative emotions, like, oh, well, this is how I need to deal with negative emotions,

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or, you know this is how I need to deal with this specific thing. This is how I need to deal with

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this specific thing. I didn't even know what was going on, let alone have any have any idea about

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what I was going about, what I was going through and where that fit into the journey or how to

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address that specifically. So I just basically always required of myself the deep down reckless

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abandon of, okay, what is the basics? What are the basics of what God said? And that's how I've come

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to discover that even though it can feel unrelated, it really is the answer to the problem.

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So that all being said, what I'm referring to is the fact that, okay, well, who does God say that

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he is? And I have to choose that he's that, to the degree he says that he is that, and I have to

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choose that I am who he says that I am. And I know that it sounds like I just always repeat it, well,

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because I do. But the thing is that that is really the answer to literally every question it is that

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we can ask. Sometimes we want something a bit more specific of like, okay, God, yeah, I get that,

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but how do I deal with this aspect? Or how do I deal with this detail? And the thing is, God, that

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is the answer to that detail and all of the other details. But in the moment, it can feel very

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irrelevant. It can feel like, okay, yeah, God, I know that you love me. Or yeah, God, I know that

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you are who you say that you are. I know you're as big as you say that you are, et cetera. But what

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about, and I'm just going to use this one, because I've addressed it not only in the

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fireside chat last time, but I also addressed it this afternoon. So in other words, it's come up

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multiple times, is like, for instance, what do we do about negative emotions? We feel these

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negative emotions, well, what do we do? And it really is that whenever I felt anything like that,

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whenever I felt a negative emotion, regardless of what it was coming from, regardless of my

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trigger, whether it was an inner wounds trigger, whether it was a fear of the fact that I didn't

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know where money was going to come from for food, or I didn't know where money was going to come

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through for internet, when I did my first rest intensive, I had no internet. And I had no idea

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how I was going to meet the obligation that I just made to all of these people that I was going to

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take them through the rest intensive, et cetera. And what I did, and then where I would be overseas,

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and I would be traveling from city to city. And in every single city I would go to, I would find

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that I'd have to ask, trust the Lord yet again, okay, God, I've run out of money. And I don't

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have money to get out of this city. Let alone, you know, I don't have money to stay here. And

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I don't have money to get out. And so in every single one of those situations, including the

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fact that when I was in Venice, actually, I had a medical emergency. And they couldn't even deal

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with it in the clinic. And they had to send me to literally the only hospital in Venice.

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And I never go to the hospital for anything in the United States.

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So then to then to all of a sudden have a medical emergency when I'm a single woman alone in a foreign country, that's just really not fun.

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So in a variety of ways, whether it's for finances or for physical safety or for physical healing or whatever, I always have to apply the same thing.

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Okay, God, I choose that you are that good.

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I choose that you are providing I choose that you are protecting that you are provider that you are protector, and I don't know how that's how that's going to manifest into my life right now, whether it's that I'm needing physical healing or

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whether I am you know afraid sometimes I know what I'm afraid of. And sometimes I'm just in a situation and I'm like, I don't know what I'm afraid of, like what you're talking about you're just like, look, all of these things that I could name I'm not afraid

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of those I'm not afraid of dying, you know, I've already been through this situation before with cancer been and this is my second time like, or, you know, I've already been through the surgery and so now I'm going to have another thing coming up.

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In other words, I already know it's coming I already have experience, I'm not afraid of these things and yet why am I afraid. And so, whether I know what I'm afraid of or not.

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I always just choose, I always kind of shift out of my circumstance, and I choose God over my circumstance, as opposed to having something specific, like, Okay, God, how, how do you tell me to have faith or trust in you, specifically in this unique circumstance.

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Sometimes I don't know what what I don't know how to.

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I don't know how to use any particular thing that God has said in the Bible to help me cope with this specific situation, because this specific situation isn't anywhere that I can find in the Bible.

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answer.

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So I really have to abandon the circumstance I have to abandon the fact that I've trying to find some principle to be able to apply to this specific situation.

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I have to choose him over the circumstance. And when I do that, everything within me stills, and I shift into rest, even though I'm still in the same circuit, even though I'm still in the circumstance, and I don't have a specific answer that uniquely

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addresses from God to this specific circumstance, everything within me goes completely still, I feel at rest, and I now don't even need to know the answer, because I got the answer.

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And so I know that that may not sound fun to say but I'm, I have actually lived this out. And the way that I did is because I didn't have anything specific that how to describe that I didn't have anyone to be able to ask these questions of.

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And so that that and so I just went back I went all the way back okay well what answer did God give you know how far back do I need to go until finally find an answer God gave, and then I'll cling to that answer and the only answer I could find going all the way

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back that would apply to this very unique situation whatever the unique situation was was God asked, who do you say that I am God your provider your protector, you, your lover, and you delight in me, you are, you know, you're good, you're holy you're,

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you're, you know, just whatever.

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And so as long as I chose that God was who he says that he was that brought my entire soul completely to rest, and my circumstance could be as unique as it wanted to be.

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I could continue to get a variety of them, I could get them back to back, and I would get be completely at rest.

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And what we often do is because the world teaches us that in order to survive, you have to have you, you, that those who survive are those who know the most.

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And we're taught that the world is very complicated and there's all these circumstances and there's all these situations, and you have to know the unique principles to apply to all the unique situations, and therefore, there is so much to learn.

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And they're always talking about how important it is to learn and that's why academics and education is always touted as like the greatest and the best thing is because that is what your survival and success depends on is your knowledge.

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And so what we're trying to do is because we were taught that it was knowledge that would save us.

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We think that in being a Christian, what we're doing is we're simply trading the world's complicated principles of knowledge for God's own version of a complicated world of principles that we're now just trading.

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And we now trade all of the things that we all the principle of this world for simply all of these other complicated principles of the kingdom of heaven.

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And it's just not true. God is very simple.

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The world is very complicated so we're not taking it's not a like an exact thing like well this principle applies to this unique situation in the, in the kingdom of this world.

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And we need to find its corresponding one in the kingdom of heaven and trade it. That's not what we need to do all we have to do is God says let go of this world and you choose me.

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You may not even know what it is specifically about me that you're choosing.

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And you may not know is that my goodness is that my provision is that my protection or is it some aspect of my character that I haven't even revealed to you yet, whatever it is I'm asking that it's me that you choose.

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And very often God will ask us I want you to choose me before I reveal myself and it's only after you choose to receive who it is that I am that then I reveal myself.

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And I won't reveal myself until you choose me first in other words that you choose that you receive me without conditions, without knowing what it is and determining whether or not you accept it and you approve of that aspect of my character.

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And whether or not you approve that that aspect of my character is going to be sufficient for you, you choose first that whoever it is that I am is sufficient for you.

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And then once you choose me first and without conditions, then I'll finally reveal who that to you who that is. So, honestly, that for me is what is, is what always always always always always always always works.

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But anyway, so what are what are your thoughts after you've been hearing me say all that. Does it make sense does it resonate. Yes, it resonates make sense.

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Yes, for sure.

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Yeah, and I know that may not I'm glad that you're encouraged because I know that sometimes it may not feel encouraging because again we're so used to.

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Yeah, but the world will give me a pat answer a very specific answer that makes me feel very secure that there isn't a specific answer for this very specific unique circumstance that's a different answer for a different circumstance and somehow

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makes us feel very secure so we think all we're doing is looking for God's version of that answer.

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And really God's just like no no scrap that whole system it's very complicated, you just choose me and I take care of everything you choose me over my sir over your circumstances and how I manifest myself into your circumstances, and what I choose

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to do with your circumstances, etc.

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That is that sacrifice that God's been asking of us that living sacrifice that living our life as a sacrifice, it's not doing something for God and building a church and building a ministry and being obedient and, you know, in, in checking off all these boxes that he

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dictated to us that we're going to do. God says, you choose me over your life over how you live over the circumstances that you run into, you know, the people that I happen to bring into your life, you know with how things work out, whether it's pain or

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comfort or it's whatever it is, I asked that I be more important to you than what your life looks like. And I think that I mentioned last time that that is the point on which everything in my life changed.

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That's the focal point.

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on which, like, if there's a, like a triangle or whatever and there's a point in it like a seesaw or some of their board sits on that point, it is the point on which everything pivots and changes direction.

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And that focal point is where we choose God over our lifestyle.

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We choose God and who he is over how our life ends up manifesting his character.

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And we allow him we choose that he is who he says that he is without fully knowing who that is.

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And, and just in what, and then I'll ask him, but this is what I did I just asked him God could you reveal who that is.

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In other words, could you manifest who you are into my life.

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into my life into Jesus's life I saw what happened to him. I saw the good the bad and the ugly.

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And, and I saw what it made his life look like and what it caused him to have to go through but God even in the garden of Gethsemane, even though he struggled.

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He's still old he's chose you over lifestyle he chose you regardless of what it caused him to have to live.

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And so anyway, and that is in it's by Jesus always having done it that it then allowed God to come in and do the miraculous include.

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being, you know, resurrect Jesus from the dead, let alone walk on

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water and change water into wine or whatever, is we always have

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to choose God over, over not only our lifestyle, but how God

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chooses to manifest himself into our life that makes it what it

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is. So in a way, it's almost like presenting our water to him

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and asking and allowing him to change it into wine if he wants

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to. So, so does that make sense? Yeah, thank you so much. You're

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welcome. I think I'm missing some chat, some chats, making

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sure no one's asking me question or something like that. Um, does

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anyone have a, it doesn't look like a question. Does anyone

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have anything? Another question? Still looking. Knowledge is

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power. Yep. Yeah. Literally taught me in elementary school.

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I know. And it is power in the world, but we have a higher

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power in, in, in God that knowledge is not power.

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Knowledge is the, is the idea that knowledge is the higher

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power is the, um, is the lie that Eve believed. So she says

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that she saw the fruit. Yeah. Casey.

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Yeah. Okay. So my question, um, is kind of about church

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community. And I grew up in the Catholic church, no longer in

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the Catholic church, but I've been drawn to more, um, what do

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you call them? Law abiding churches. And, um, so my

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question is like the last couple of months, gosh, three, four

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months, we have not been going to our regular church mainly

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because I leave every time feeling condemned and I'm just

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overwhelmed, discouraged. And I even had a talk with a pastor

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about it, a short talk in tears. So it was kind of like a off

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the cuff moment. Um, and so I'm in this place of one, I feel

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like God is maybe hat has me us in that church for a reason, but

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I also can't see myself walking back in it and hearing the

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messages, but I also know that God is wanting to unify the

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church. So it's. Unify the church, meaning, meaning he's

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going to come reunited bride basically. Correct. So I'm in

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it. I'm, I'm just wondering like how much, how important is that

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church community that is believing similarly than you?

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church community, but I don't know if you have any insight on

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that. Okay. So you say that you're feeling stuck cause you

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want to be part of a church community, but the church

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community that y'all have, you're feeling condemned by

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that's what you're saying. Yes. Okay. So, um, are you saying

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that y'all don't feel the release to go? Do y'all feel by

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the Lord that you're supposed to stay in that church or do you

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feel a release to look for a new church or, or, or what, or

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are you just wondering, is it important to go to church? Like

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what's well, I kind of feel a release to go to a new church,

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but I also felt like I heard the Lord tell me like iron sharpens

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iron. Like he has as in this place is maybe a sharpening the

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pastor, sharpening the other people in the church to help

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come to a different knowledge of the gospel. And so I guess I

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don't, so I guess I don't really know what my question for you is

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then. Cause I feel like that's something only the Lord can lead

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me to. It's not something that you can, you can give me an

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I can just, so now that I hear that, I can give you some, some

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thoughts, but yeah, I can't tell you obviously what to do. I can

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just give you some things and you can take it before the Lord

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and use it as like starting points for your conversation.

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I loved. I was so excited. It had tremendous community. I'd

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always looked for that. Um, we were, uh, growing strong in the

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Lord. The, uh, the pastor was very biblically based. He was,

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um, he, uh, he, um, he was also very, he was also charismatic.

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was more of a family atmosphere than I'd literally ever

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experienced in a church before it was, it was phenomenal. In

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fact, to the point that we still get together periodically for

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funerals. And then we're like 10 years later and it feels like a,

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it feels like family whenever we get back together. No, that

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you're fine. And it feels like family whenever we get back

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together. So the thing is that, uh, it was, it was great. And

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yet it finally started going through a season where God was

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transitioning it. What ends up happening, um, over a period of

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time is that God had them eventually, God knew the leaders

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that the Lord was telling them to all transition into something,

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but they didn't know what. And eventually what happened is the

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Lord just told the leaders, okay, just close the doors. Now

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were we supposed to have transitioned into something and

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we didn't. And so therefore God said, close the

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doors. I don't know. All I know is it eventually got to the point where the church closed.

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But long before then, I was feeling that the grace, so to speak, I don't want to say the

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grace was lifting, but that God was now moving in a different way in power. And the church

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and the church body that I was a part of was no longer doing that. We hadn't transitioned

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in following the Lord in the new way that he was doing things. He invited us to, but

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we were in that process of like, okay, God, you're not no longer in the, in the old, where

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are you? You know, you're moving into unfamiliar and unknown territory. So we don't know where

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we're following you to. In fact, Lindsay and I've been talking about this. So the thing

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is that during that time, I was just like, Lord, I'm not getting fed. Now I wasn't feeling

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necessarily condemned, but I just like, Lord, I'm not longer getting fed. I said, can I

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please leave? And what we, he personally told me in that situation is he said, Ashley,

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don't leave because I want you there as salt right now. He said, because you're secure

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in who it is that in what it is that I am teaching you and where it is that I'm showing

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you that I'm now operating in a totally different way on the earth and all of that you are spiritually

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and in your soul, you're secure in that you don't feel afraid, but all your friends are.

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because they need an emotional stability when, when their God has moved and they don't know

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where he is because that's what it felt like. Now God was inviting them, but, but God is

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like, you know, if kind of like in a, in a, it's kind of like if you're looking for God

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in this place and he moves over and you're like, God, where are you? And he's like, I'm

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still here. And you're like, God, where are you? I can't find you. I can't see you. That's

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what their experience was like, but that's what he told me to do. And I was actually

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very surprised that that's what he told me to do. But then after the church closed, he

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released me and I didn't go to church. I wasn't in a church for, um, nine years, I think.

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I would try to go to a church, God wouldn't release me to, to attend that one regularly,

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but I'd pop in here and there in various churches. So God's just had me take my own specific

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journey. That's just kind of unique, but I had to listen very specifically to him and

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what it is he wanted me to do. I will tell you that my journey is very unique and very

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unusual because even though I did that, I had to stay extremely connected to the body

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of Christ because that's the whole point, whether or not it's an institution and it's

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a church building and it's a, it's organized. It is extremely, extremely important that

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we stay connected to the body of Christ because it's an aspect of the body that we're, I mean,

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we're one with it. It would be like not interacting with the body. It's not the same thing, but

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it's similar to the fact to what it would be like if we didn't interact with Christ

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because he's the head and we're the body. So it's like the arm saying it doesn't have

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need to interact with the leg. Well, the leg is vitally important. The arm isn't moving

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the body, but the leg is, you know, or that, you know, the finger says that it's more important

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than the toe or, you know, the mouse says it's more important than the ear or, and it

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doesn't need the other. And God speaks very specifically about that in the Bible and says

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that no, each other is very important. Y'all all carry a different aspect of who I am.

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And if you aren't interacting, you don't get to see me. So it's not that God can't

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sustain us, you know, you know, on our own, if God, if God puts us in those unique situations,

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there are people who are in solitary confinement in prisons in China and God is not condemning

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them because they're not going to church, you know? So, I mean, there's, there are circumstances

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and situations, but just generally and overall, there is a vital importance to the community

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and in building ourselves up by fellowshipping and the building ourselves up, isn't just

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simply the encouraging each other and the praying for each other. It's the looking more

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like Christ, the more that each of us starts fitting into our appropriate role and position

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in the body relative to each other, because God says that he, that, that all of God will

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be revealed in all. In other words, when we're all together, we can see God, there's a different

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aspect each one of us is responsible to carry and to represent and to express because we

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all have our unique union with him. And the uniqueness of that union needs to be combined

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with all the other unique aspects of the, of those he's unified with in order to reveal,

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not just God, but in order, in order for us to not just see God, but to reveal God to

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the rest of creation.

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We cannot release creation from frustration and not be in fellowship with God.

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and that's their season right now.

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but we all have our different part to play and we all have

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different phases of our life where God has us in

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this church or he has us in this church or he has us in this body,

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or we're in a season where we're doing life with these people or these people or whatever.

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It's very unique and whatever it is that God is telling you all to do,

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I just wanted to reiterate the while God can do anything and call you to anything,

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there is a very vital importance in fellowshipping and with the body of Christ.

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It's more important than just visiting and talking and praying and all of that.

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Knowing who each other is,

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it's that we all begin to shift more into our appropriate positions as the body,

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and then so that we can actually act as in unity,

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as opposed to simply just telling each other that we're all one in Christ.

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We have to start actually acting like it.

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The only way that we can do that is to do the hard work of interacting,

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which is very challenging. Is that helpful?

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It is very helpful.

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They're just thoughts rather than because

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there's no specific answer I can give you as to what y'all are supposed to do.

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Good. You're welcome. Does anyone have another question?

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So, yeah, Kate.

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A lot of your answers I know are applicable to a lot of these different questions,

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so we'll just keep asking them in different ways.

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No, that's fine. That's why I have the rest of the time to

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say the answer the same question in a variety of ways.

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I'm fully aware that this is how it goes and I still love it.

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Very good. I think you touched on it in some of your lives.

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But in relationship to trauma,

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so oftentimes trauma can be at the root of some of the wrong mindsets

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and the unbelief and all the different,

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the lack of safety or having to control all that stuff.

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and the Lord reveals that trauma is at the root of some of this

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and we still choose to believe like, OK, you're my deliverer,

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you're my healer, go back to that place.

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Then like pre this class, the tension is to go and seek inner healing,

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go and do all the things that we're not doing right now.

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so if the words are feeling that there's some measure of trauma

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that's at the root of it and we still choose to believe that you're my healer,

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you're my deliverer, you're all these things that can handle this situation

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once and for all, it's already been done.

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It's already been handled and reconciled.

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But is there anything else that we need to do as these things surface,

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like is there to walk that out so that way it's resolved?

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I mean, I know that a lot of us have gone after specific traumas

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in those kinds of ways, inner healing, deliverance, all that stuff.

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And maybe there's been levels of healing in it

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and there's always greater levels of healing.

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when those triggers come up and maybe that's the answer.

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But is there, I don't know if I'm making sense of like

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how to deal with the trauma situation at large of walking through it.

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So, one of the things is that the whole like shifting into resting is not a...

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I'm going to mention several things, you know, in answer to your question.

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So, this is where I'm starting.

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And I'm sorry, I forgot.

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My mind then went to the next thing that I was going to talk about

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and I forgot, what was I just saying?

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Oh, no, I lost it again.

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oh, there's several different answers to your question.

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Okay, so let me start here.

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I never want to villainize all of these other things,

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you know, for instance, that you're talking about,

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like deliverance or like SOZO or I don't know what else.

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you know, going to counselors and doing all of these things, there's nothing wrong essentially,

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you know, with any of those tools. And I still use them. The thing is that we always have to

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approach anything that we do from it, no longer that from not depending on it to create the

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outcome, not depending on ourselves, not depending on the tool, not depending on the formula,

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but rather depending on God. But then in depending on God, God, which formula do you

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want me to use? In other words, which principle that you created should, do you want to allow

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to be part of our process of healing? Like for instance, sometimes it's going to a Western medical

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doctor. Sometimes it's going the naturopathic route. Sometimes it is going to a deliverance

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ministry. Sometimes it's doing celebrate recovery. Sometimes it's going to a counselor

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or a psychologist or a psychiatrist or taking Tylenol, or I don't know, just whatever it's

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a, there's a variety of, of tools that God, that we can use that are based. And I'm not talking

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about like wrong ones. I'm just talking about like all of the right ones that, that, that,

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because God created all of those and you created the principles by which all of those things

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work. Why does spiritual warfare work? You know, the ones that, uh, that are taught to us by like,

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say deliverance ministers or whatever, why do they work? Because they're based on real life

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principles that God put into effect. God's the one who created it to work like that,

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but to battle spiritual warfare from all of those laws and rules can be very exhausting.

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So we'll talk about all that later about like, well, when you shift into the position of where

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it is that we are in Christ, just like what we were talking about the other day of like making

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a judgment from that place is the same thing in dealing with spiritual warfare, spilling,

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dealing from spirit, dealing with spiritual warfare from a place of being positioned in

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Christ means literally everything is under your feet, including Satan and all of the powers of

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darkness. So therefore you are not, I'm threatened by anything, spiritual warfare from a place where

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you're above everything is no longer a battle. It's a command. It's a, you know, it's, it's just

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operating as a, it's operating as a King. So it's very different, but we can also battle

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in spiritual warfare, using all of the tools of applying the principles of spiritual warfare that

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God put into place. Right? So there's nothing wrong with using tools that God created, but

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God never wants us to depend on the tool. God never wants us to think that it's the tool that

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saved us, the tool that fixed us, the tool that is the savior, the tool. He doesn't want us to depend

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on it to determine our outcome as if we, if we lack it, then we're going to be unsuccessful or

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we're going to die, or we're going to be, we're going to be attacked or we're going to be whatever

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that we always submit ourselves completely into his hands. And then it's just like, okay, Lord,

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in interacting with this world, which principle of yours, do you want us, do you want to be part of

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the action? Do you want us to interact with, do you, what aspect of creation do you want to allow

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to be part of the process, but God is still the one doing it. So anyway, I, I, I, I believe in,

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in, in like going to people and having them pray for us, pray with us. I've been prayed over,

390
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you know, for, you know, for deliverance and not that anything manifested, but, you know,

391
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I was really hoping something would, because I really needed help and nothing was working. So

392
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this guy said, well, maybe we should pray for that. I was like, I am all for it. Let's see if

393
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something comes out. So, um, but anyway, uh, we, uh, we can use all of those things for,

394
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and then, um, for example, I always use a medical example to explain this, um, say for instance,

395
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that as far as, um, as a healing goes, if you have a headache, you can, I have talked to my

396
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headaches and they've gone away, but more often than not, because I'm still learning about how to

397
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have authority over my body and to make my body feel safe and for my body to no longer feel that

398
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it has to succumb to attack. Then, um, sometimes I have to take Tylenol because I can't, I can't

399
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connect with my body to the point where it, it, it believes that it's safe and it believes that

400
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it doesn't have to succumb to those outside forces and those pressures. And it doesn't

401
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have to have a headache. And, uh, and so then I'm like, okay, then, then what I do is I take

402
00:39:51.920 --> 00:39:56.880
Tylenol and I thank the Lord for it as the Lord, you know, you created the principles by which

403
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Tylenol works, you know,

404
00:40:00.000 --> 00:40:03.120
All of the, all of the, I don't know, whatever it is that he put out into

405
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creation, cause I don't know what all is in Tylenol, you know, you, you being

406
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in medical school, you do, I have no idea.

407
00:40:09.160 --> 00:40:12.860
Anyway, the thing is that whatever goes into Tylenol, that someone figured out,

408
00:40:12.860 --> 00:40:16.920
Hey, if we put these things together and if we put in a specific active ingredient

409
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that, that creation, you know, or mother nature, whatever it is that they would

410
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have call it or God, you know, depending on whether they're a Christian says, okay.

411
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And if we put this active ingredient in it, it'll, it'll numb the, um, numb

412
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the symptoms of a headache.

413
00:40:30.640 --> 00:40:33.600
Well, my God is the one who created that to be a possibility.

414
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And my God doesn't create anything bad and anything wrong, but anything that we

415
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do here on earth, uh, is going to have an element of death in it because all

416
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flesh is subject to corruption at this point.

417
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That's why Tylenol has side effects.

418
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That's why essential oil has five side effects.

419
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That's why good things like apples and I don't know, animals and people, you

420
00:40:56.320 --> 00:41:00.640
know, good things that God created can have very bad side effects.

421
00:41:01.160 --> 00:41:02.800
It doesn't make the thing bad.

422
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And it doesn't mean that God's creative, uh, the, the God, the creator, as he,

423
00:41:09.120 --> 00:41:13.400
when he created the thing, created something bad, it just simply means

424
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that it's subject to corruption.

425
00:41:16.200 --> 00:41:18.040
And that's what we're trying to save it from.

426
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But in the meantime, anything, anything that we interact with, that is the flesh

427
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that has an aspect of flesh here on earth, including another human being

428
00:41:27.760 --> 00:41:29.080
is going to have side effects.

429
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It's going to be some aspect of it that is subject to corruption.

430
00:41:32.680 --> 00:41:37.040
And, um, but it doesn't mean that, but God says that he put us in this world.

431
00:41:37.040 --> 00:41:41.480
And we're so there's, so we're, we're called to interact with it, interact

432
00:41:41.480 --> 00:41:46.280
with it, and it's not bad to interact with it now, this is, this is, well,

433
00:41:46.280 --> 00:41:49.320
nevermind, I'm not even going to say that I was going to say, this is just me.

434
00:41:49.320 --> 00:41:50.680
And this is just what I believe in.

435
00:41:50.680 --> 00:41:53.480
This is why I believe it, but I'm not even going to go there.

436
00:41:53.720 --> 00:41:55.280
So we're just going to skip that one.

437
00:41:55.440 --> 00:42:02.560
But, um, anyway, if, uh, but over time, what I, what I do though,

438
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is I choose more and more.

439
00:42:04.320 --> 00:42:04.600
Okay.

440
00:42:04.600 --> 00:42:10.040
As I'm talking to Tylenol God, I'm choosing Lord that you are my

441
00:42:10.040 --> 00:42:16.920
healer, not this Tylenol, but God in the, while I'm continuing to believe

442
00:42:16.920 --> 00:42:21.280
you to greater and greater degrees, I believe that you, as a good father

443
00:42:21.840 --> 00:42:27.880
gave me this Tylenol so that, or created this with the ability to give me relief.

444
00:42:28.080 --> 00:42:29.240
And for that, I thank you.

445
00:42:29.240 --> 00:42:34.720
I'm receiving this God, because I believe that you're good, you're good.

446
00:42:34.720 --> 00:42:41.480
And it manifested in creating something that, that can be, that was, that was

447
00:42:41.480 --> 00:42:47.240
created for the, for the purpose of giving me relief of giving me comfort or

448
00:42:47.240 --> 00:42:51.080
whatever, um, and then of course, everybody has to choose between them

449
00:42:51.080 --> 00:42:54.200
and the Lord as to whether or not God wants them to take Tylenol, whether

450
00:42:54.200 --> 00:42:57.280
or not God wants them to watch television, whether or not God wants

451
00:42:57.280 --> 00:43:01.640
them to go to a specific church, whether God, God wants them to read a specific

452
00:43:01.640 --> 00:43:07.000
book, you know, there's, there's good and bad in everything in flesh.

453
00:43:07.840 --> 00:43:11.560
So the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, and there's only one fruit on that

454
00:43:11.560 --> 00:43:14.040
tree, there's not good fruit and bad fruit.

455
00:43:14.040 --> 00:43:16.320
And that tree is bearing two different types of fruit.

456
00:43:16.600 --> 00:43:19.440
It is one fruit and apple tree only bears apples.

457
00:43:19.440 --> 00:43:21.400
That doesn't bear two different types of fruit.

458
00:43:21.880 --> 00:43:25.120
Every single piece of fruit has both good and evil in it.

459
00:43:25.120 --> 00:43:26.360
We can't separate them.

460
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So every time we try to get something good from the tree of the knowledge of

461
00:43:29.360 --> 00:43:34.600
good and evil, you know, there's going to be bad in there too, because all flesh

462
00:43:34.640 --> 00:43:38.040
that was created as good is subject to corruption.

463
00:43:38.120 --> 00:43:40.000
So currently there's good and bad in it.

464
00:43:40.000 --> 00:43:44.960
So anyway, um, I just receive those things as God, having been a created.

465
00:43:45.640 --> 00:43:51.320
You know, a gift as a good father to a son and I receive it as God being good to me.

466
00:43:51.760 --> 00:43:56.320
Um, and just, anyway, so I say all that to say that about like inner healing

467
00:43:56.320 --> 00:44:01.720
sessions or sozo's or deliverance sessions or counseling or, or whatever.

468
00:44:02.200 --> 00:44:04.640
Um, it's the whole point is the source.

469
00:44:04.840 --> 00:44:08.200
It's not what we do is where we do it from.

470
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Um, and, uh, and the source behind it, including, and I know that this is going

471
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to sound really weird to bring this up, but as many of you who's followed me for

472
00:44:17.520 --> 00:44:21.080
a while, no, I always use extreme examples, including murder.

473
00:44:21.480 --> 00:44:23.240
We all know that murder is awful.

474
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And yet, when do we all agree that it's okay?

475
00:44:25.960 --> 00:44:30.120
If someone is about to stab your child, what are you going to do?

476
00:44:31.000 --> 00:44:34.080
And what do you know that God would have you do right?

477
00:44:34.320 --> 00:44:37.240
So we all know, oh, it's bad until.

478
00:44:37.720 --> 00:44:38.280
Right.

479
00:44:38.760 --> 00:44:44.360
So anyway, it's, um, anyway, so does, does all, does all this

480
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make sense, is there any aspect of, in which had a question?

481
00:44:48.680 --> 00:44:49.040
Oh, no.

482
00:44:49.040 --> 00:44:49.720
And then, okay.

483
00:44:49.720 --> 00:44:51.600
So I'm trying to remember all of your questions.

484
00:44:51.600 --> 00:44:53.640
You then were wondering, well, then what do we do?

485
00:44:53.640 --> 00:44:54.040
Right.

486
00:44:54.360 --> 00:44:56.880
Like, how do we handle the fact that it continues to come up?

487
00:44:57.280 --> 00:44:59.920
So this is one of the things that I wanted to, this is the thing that.

488
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I was going to say at the beginning is that shifting into rest is not a one and

489
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done thing. Shifting into rest is a lifestyle.

490
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It's this is now how we choose to live.

491
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And the,

492
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and we're going to understand this a bit more when y'all watch session five,

493
00:45:17.200 --> 00:45:19.880
I believe, which is the three realms. I think it's session five.

494
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And it's talking about spirit, soul, and body.

495
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You'll understand a bit more about what I was just talking about.

496
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Like for instance, like the Tylenol thing from season, uh, from session five,

497
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but also this,

498
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and that's the fact that what we're choosing to do is we are choosing to

499
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overcome our flesh. And that is a process.

500
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We can't just like, boom, we've, we've overcome it.

501
00:45:41.840 --> 00:45:45.680
There's so many different aspects of the flesh that keep revealing themselves.

502
00:45:45.800 --> 00:45:48.400
Some of which we've chosen to not believe God.

503
00:45:48.400 --> 00:45:50.920
Some of which we simply inherited from our ancestors.

504
00:45:50.960 --> 00:45:54.000
It is literally not figuratively literally in our DNA.

505
00:45:54.520 --> 00:45:58.200
And there's aspects of their unbelief that became physical form.

506
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And are in the DNA. And we are literally curing,

507
00:46:01.920 --> 00:46:03.240
carrying them and living them out.

508
00:46:03.600 --> 00:46:05.720
And then any aspects that we haven't dealt with,

509
00:46:05.720 --> 00:46:08.960
we've passed on to our children, just what happens with humanity.

510
00:46:08.960 --> 00:46:12.760
So what some of the stuff that we're overcoming is stuff that has been in the

511
00:46:12.760 --> 00:46:16.360
DNA line and been passed down for generations.

512
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And so that's why we're called, you know,

513
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all as an entire body from Adam all the way to the end of

514
00:46:23.880 --> 00:46:25.720
humanity, whenever that's going to be,

515
00:46:25.960 --> 00:46:29.760
we're literally one body and we're all overcoming together.

516
00:46:30.360 --> 00:46:33.960
We're all overcoming. We're all overcoming the flesh.

517
00:46:34.120 --> 00:46:37.480
We're all overcoming different aspects of, um, uh,

518
00:46:37.480 --> 00:46:42.360
that creation that subject to death in order to transition it

519
00:46:42.360 --> 00:46:46.320
into spirit in order to completely replace it with spirit.

520
00:46:46.320 --> 00:46:48.840
Remember that Jesus's body for instance,

521
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and this is just one aspect because when I talk about flesh, you know,

522
00:46:51.440 --> 00:46:55.120
I'm not just talking about physical body. Um, so we're,

523
00:46:55.640 --> 00:46:57.920
when, um, uh, that,

524
00:46:58.200 --> 00:47:01.240
that when Jesus died and he rose again,

525
00:47:01.720 --> 00:47:06.520
the body that he rose again in now had a spiritual bot now was spiritual.

526
00:47:06.520 --> 00:47:10.320
So it could, it could translate, it can move through walls, et cetera,

527
00:47:10.320 --> 00:47:15.240
and yet he could still eat. And not only could he still eat, it literally was,

528
00:47:15.280 --> 00:47:18.680
I mean, so not only was it a body, so yes, it was spiritual.

529
00:47:18.680 --> 00:47:19.320
It could do all this.

530
00:47:19.320 --> 00:47:23.800
It was no longer forced to operate according to the principles of

531
00:47:23.840 --> 00:47:27.800
creation. It could choose when to obey them. And when to not, he decides,

532
00:47:27.800 --> 00:47:29.520
you know what I want to translate right now,

533
00:47:30.000 --> 00:47:32.800
or I want to move through the wall or I want to whatever.

534
00:47:32.840 --> 00:47:37.440
So he could choose when his body was, uh,

535
00:47:37.480 --> 00:47:41.320
followed the principles of physics. And when it didn't, he could choose that.

536
00:47:41.760 --> 00:47:45.440
But when he chose it, he could, you know, eat fish, you know,

537
00:47:45.440 --> 00:47:49.000
neat food, et cetera. But then in addition to that,

538
00:47:49.240 --> 00:47:50.880
it's not just a body.

539
00:47:51.280 --> 00:47:55.160
His body wasn't replaced. Like as in, I mean, it was replaced in a way,

540
00:47:55.160 --> 00:47:58.160
but it wasn't like a different human body.

541
00:47:58.400 --> 00:48:01.960
It was literally the same body he died in. It had the same wounds.

542
00:48:02.640 --> 00:48:03.040
It's very,

543
00:48:03.040 --> 00:48:06.840
very important for us to recognize that it literally was the same body he had

544
00:48:06.840 --> 00:48:10.440
walked around on the earth in and the had died in. I mean,

545
00:48:10.440 --> 00:48:13.360
it had the wounds in his hands and the wound in his side and when his feet,

546
00:48:13.360 --> 00:48:14.200
et cetera.

547
00:48:14.200 --> 00:48:19.160
So what that proves to us is that God didn't create these physical bodies or

548
00:48:19.320 --> 00:48:21.800
souls or anything else that's out there. That's flesh.

549
00:48:22.120 --> 00:48:26.560
He did not create it as a bad thing that he intends to completely

550
00:48:26.960 --> 00:48:30.440
demolish and obliterate into oblivion.

551
00:48:31.000 --> 00:48:35.040
And then just start all over, you know, and like in the beginning,

552
00:48:35.040 --> 00:48:38.040
God created a new heaven and a new earth and a whatever,

553
00:48:38.240 --> 00:48:39.320
what does it say about the earth?

554
00:48:39.320 --> 00:48:43.600
It says that the earth will change like a, like it changes a garment.

555
00:48:44.440 --> 00:48:46.640
It didn't it. So in other words,

556
00:48:46.800 --> 00:48:49.120
it's still going to be the same earth,

557
00:48:49.160 --> 00:48:53.800
but now it's going to translate or tran transition or whatever from

558
00:48:53.800 --> 00:48:56.760
flesh into spirit, but it's still the same earth.

559
00:48:57.280 --> 00:48:59.680
But this time, because it's aspects,

560
00:48:59.720 --> 00:49:04.720
all aspects of it are spirit and not, and not flesh subject to corruption.

561
00:49:05.240 --> 00:49:07.440
It will now literally never die again.

562
00:49:08.680 --> 00:49:10.360
And so that's what Christ's body does.

563
00:49:10.720 --> 00:49:12.320
That's what we're doing with our own bodies.

564
00:49:12.320 --> 00:49:17.280
That's what we're doing with the rest of creation is we are transitioning it

565
00:49:17.280 --> 00:49:18.520
by overcoming,

566
00:49:18.920 --> 00:49:23.160
we are helping the Lord transition it from flesh into spirit.

567
00:49:23.640 --> 00:49:25.920
We're taking the same thing and keeping it,

568
00:49:26.280 --> 00:49:28.800
but we're transitioning it to spirit instead of flesh.

569
00:49:28.800 --> 00:49:31.440
So it will now no longer die. That's what happened to Jesus.

570
00:49:31.440 --> 00:49:34.960
That's how he did it. And that's what he's calling us to do.

571
00:49:35.360 --> 00:49:38.760
So my point is that this is the process.

572
00:49:38.880 --> 00:49:41.520
It's something that we're doing. So in the shifting into rest,

573
00:49:41.520 --> 00:49:44.680
it's not this threshold that we're all kind of working up to.

574
00:49:44.920 --> 00:49:47.040
And then finally, we're going to cross over. No,

575
00:49:47.040 --> 00:49:51.840
this is a lifestyle that we're choosing and we're just releasing more and more

576
00:49:51.840 --> 00:49:52.480
interest,

577
00:49:52.480 --> 00:49:57.080
meaning that we are overcoming more and more and more of our flesh

578
00:49:57.800 --> 00:50:00.000
over time. And I don't say that.

579
00:50:00.000 --> 00:50:05.280
to our discouragement, I just say that, you know, that's just our, it's just our reality. I mean,

580
00:50:05.280 --> 00:50:13.840
even Jesus lived that. Um, so, and Jesus lives, lived a perfect life. So, um, uh, trying to think,

581
00:50:13.840 --> 00:50:18.720
did I answer all of the question or, or did you still have any part of that, that you have

582
00:50:18.720 --> 00:50:25.920
question about? Yeah. Um, no, I mean, it answers a lot of it. I think for any question we ask,

583
00:50:25.920 --> 00:50:31.520
we just want some anecdotal, like do this, this, and this, the recipe, the formula that we're so

584
00:50:31.520 --> 00:50:43.440
used to. Right. Yeah. But I mean, yeah, I mean, all those services and all they're like, they're

585
00:50:43.440 --> 00:50:48.560
like spiritual services, right. It can be overwhelming. Sometimes it's like feeling

586
00:50:48.560 --> 00:50:55.040
like that. Oh, yes. All of those things to do, et cetera. Well, that's why, um, even if you do

587
00:50:55.040 --> 00:50:59.440
all of those things, you know, you do the inner healing or you go to a deliverance, um, session,

588
00:50:59.440 --> 00:51:05.840
or you do a SOSO or you do, you know, whatever. Um, if you, if you do it by relying on God

589
00:51:06.640 --> 00:51:15.280
and his healing, um, and choose him over, over what's going to happen over the result of the

590
00:51:15.280 --> 00:51:22.240
outcome of like the session over, um, if you choose him over your trauma, you choose him over

591
00:51:22.240 --> 00:51:30.720
your healing. You choose him over everything. That is literally how you overcome, because it's

592
00:51:30.720 --> 00:51:40.160
always in choosing God over. And instead of all of this, that this gets over that this changes

593
00:51:40.160 --> 00:51:45.520
from flesh into spirit, because what we're doing is we're now neutralizing its power over us.

594
00:51:45.520 --> 00:51:50.000
Because right now that, that what a trauma is, is it's an aspect of our unbelief or

595
00:51:50.560 --> 00:51:56.640
that has power over us. So we're actually neutralizing it. So it doesn't have that power.

596
00:51:56.640 --> 00:52:03.680
Um, but there are, you know, when overcoming traumas and whatever, a lot of times that is

597
00:52:03.680 --> 00:52:07.600
a process and the fact that you are like what Lindsay and I were talking about, you know,

598
00:52:07.600 --> 00:52:13.360
when she was asking question last fireside chat, you know, wondering like, well, if I encounter

599
00:52:13.360 --> 00:52:17.920
this again, does that mean, you know, what, what does that mean? And it's just that we're learning

600
00:52:17.920 --> 00:52:22.800
it at a deeper level. We didn't realize how deep that that trauma went into us. We didn't realize

601
00:52:22.800 --> 00:52:29.040
how greatly we were affected. Um, we didn't realize how deeply that root of unbelief goes.

602
00:52:29.040 --> 00:52:33.440
Um, for instance, how many times that we heard that the Lord loves us and how we so-called learned

603
00:52:33.440 --> 00:52:39.520
our lesson or that, or that we can trust God's provision. How many of us have had miraculous

604
00:52:39.520 --> 00:52:45.680
stories that we could tell about, about money that came in or food, or I don't know, just an

605
00:52:45.680 --> 00:52:50.640
answer to a prayer, an answer to a decision that we'd been asking the Lord about, you know, question

606
00:52:50.640 --> 00:52:56.160
or whatever. And yet we continue to doubt the next time that something happens, you know, yeah, but

607
00:52:56.160 --> 00:53:02.160
yeah, but this one's different, you know, and we can have, we can have a sympathy for the Israelites

608
00:53:02.160 --> 00:53:06.800
who would see miraculous things. And then three days later, they were grumbling again. I do the

609
00:53:06.800 --> 00:53:13.600
exact same thing. And by that, I do mean the exact, I will literally watch miracles that God does in

610
00:53:13.600 --> 00:53:18.720
my life. And then three days later, something else happens. I'm like, oh my word, but Lord,

611
00:53:18.720 --> 00:53:24.880
you know, and, and, um, and I, and I would lay there thinking, this is what the Israelites do.

612
00:53:24.880 --> 00:53:29.280
This is absolutely wild. In fact, I did that, uh, when I was at, when I was, uh, you know,

613
00:53:29.280 --> 00:53:35.280
meeting many in Venice and I was lying on that hospital, that hospital that I was in the hospital

614
00:53:35.280 --> 00:53:41.600
for a little bit, but I was in on the, um, I was on that hotel bed lying there. And I thought,

615
00:53:41.600 --> 00:53:46.560
I cannot believe that I am struggling so much with the Lord right now. I have literally been

616
00:53:46.560 --> 00:53:52.560
traveling with him for two and a half months. And I have seen the miracles that he performed

617
00:53:52.560 --> 00:53:58.880
in key in protecting, um, a, uh, you know, a single woman alone, you know, traveling around

618
00:53:58.880 --> 00:54:04.080
the middle East and then, and then, you know, different, uh, so where else did I go? Croatia.

619
00:54:04.080 --> 00:54:07.920
I'd never been to Croatia in my life. I'd never, I'd hardly ever even heard of the country of

620
00:54:07.920 --> 00:54:13.920
Croatia until 24 hours before I, before I flew into the country. And, and then I went to Italy

621
00:54:13.920 --> 00:54:19.920
and all kinds of places. And I was like, Ashley, you, and you've lived by faith where the Lord

622
00:54:19.920 --> 00:54:24.960
literally has provided for all of your bills for two years. By that point, you know, now it's been

623
00:54:24.960 --> 00:54:30.800
longer than that. It was like, you know, your God, he's, you know, he's never had you go without food.

624
00:54:30.800 --> 00:54:35.600
He's always protected you. Why on earth are you, are you struggling with him so much? And I thought,

625
00:54:35.600 --> 00:54:41.120
but I still am. So the thing is I had to realize though, this is just a deeper layer.

626
00:54:41.120 --> 00:54:45.200
This just a deeper layer. And so now at this deeper layer, who do I choose that God is?

627
00:54:45.760 --> 00:54:51.200
Um, so that's what we're doing. What we're doing is we're choosing an overcoming lifestyle. We will

628
00:54:51.200 --> 00:54:57.040
not overcome the same thing over and over. Once you've overcome it, it changes from flesh to spirit

629
00:54:57.600 --> 00:54:59.760
and it can never die again.

630
00:55:00.000 --> 00:55:01.640
So we can all be encouraged about that.

631
00:55:02.240 --> 00:55:06.840
So once it changes into spirit, it literally can never die again.

632
00:55:06.880 --> 00:55:09.000
And so you're not going to have to overcome that again.

633
00:55:09.240 --> 00:55:12.920
But what I mean is that we are, it's an overcoming lifestyle is in like the,

634
00:55:13.080 --> 00:55:17.880
the we're, we're choosing that we are going to save this world, that we are

635
00:55:17.880 --> 00:55:19.480
going to release it from frustration.

636
00:55:19.480 --> 00:55:21.040
And that is what it is waiting for.

637
00:55:21.320 --> 00:55:22.520
Our souls are waiting for it.

638
00:55:22.520 --> 00:55:23.760
Our bodies are waiting for it.

639
00:55:23.760 --> 00:55:26.480
If you're reading Romans eight, it says literally even our soul and our

640
00:55:26.480 --> 00:55:29.480
body is waiting for the manifestation of the sense of God.

641
00:55:29.720 --> 00:55:34.440
Let alone the tigers and the trees and the, you know, and the, um, and, um,

642
00:55:34.480 --> 00:55:39.880
gold and silver and, you know, soil and, you know, and the principles by which

643
00:55:39.880 --> 00:55:44.120
business and finance work they're subject to corruption as well, and they're waiting

644
00:55:44.120 --> 00:55:45.880
on the manifestation of the sense of God.

645
00:55:46.200 --> 00:55:50.240
So everything is, so what we are choosing is much bigger than our lives.

646
00:55:50.640 --> 00:55:52.840
It's much bigger than our 70 or 80 years.

647
00:55:52.840 --> 00:55:56.280
And all of these milestones that we're crossing of like, which cars that we get

648
00:55:56.280 --> 00:56:00.040
in, which cities we live in and which homes we buy and whether or not we go to

649
00:56:00.040 --> 00:56:04.120
Bible study and who we end up mentoring and discipling and, you know, how much of

650
00:56:04.120 --> 00:56:07.440
the, of the Bible that we memorize, it is so much bigger than that.

651
00:56:08.560 --> 00:56:10.640
And that's what we're, and that's what we're choosing.

652
00:56:10.640 --> 00:56:15.680
We're choosing who are we, and we are going to show the world who it is that we

653
00:56:15.680 --> 00:56:18.000
are, we are the sons of the most high God.

654
00:56:18.560 --> 00:56:21.360
And the end we're here to, we're here as Kings.

655
00:56:21.360 --> 00:56:22.360
We're here to save it.

656
00:56:23.000 --> 00:56:24.160
That's what we're here for.

657
00:56:24.440 --> 00:56:25.840
But we can't save it.

658
00:56:25.840 --> 00:56:30.920
If we think we're victim to it, we think that we're victim to our lives, our

659
00:56:30.920 --> 00:56:32.480
circumstances, our situations.

660
00:56:32.480 --> 00:56:35.720
If we think that we're victim to flesh and the fact that it's subject to

661
00:56:35.720 --> 00:56:39.840
corruption and the fact that there's sin and sickness and, you know, et cetera.

662
00:56:40.680 --> 00:56:48.040
So, and then, oh, and then you will also, when you get to session seven, there

663
00:56:48.080 --> 00:56:52.720
will, I've already given you y'all several tools that you can use to shift

664
00:56:52.760 --> 00:56:54.320
into rest in any given moment.

665
00:56:54.840 --> 00:56:56.880
The first one is, um, obviously.

666
00:56:57.640 --> 00:57:01.720
Um, choosing at a foundational level, you know, the Lord loves you, you know,

667
00:57:01.720 --> 00:57:05.000
you'll go through that exercise and the fact that you're one with him, but as

668
00:57:05.000 --> 00:57:08.200
far as the actual tools go, that I mentioned is the first one is no shame

669
00:57:08.200 --> 00:57:11.640
and no condemnation that you choose, you know, in a moment when you're being

670
00:57:11.640 --> 00:57:15.000
triggered, okay, release myself from shame and condemnation, it can feel

671
00:57:15.000 --> 00:57:17.120
completely irrelevant to the moment.

672
00:57:17.560 --> 00:57:20.680
You can be afraid that you're about to go into surgery, you know, just like

673
00:57:21.040 --> 00:57:22.280
Chris was just talking about.

674
00:57:23.040 --> 00:57:26.000
And yet sometimes if you release yourself from shame and

675
00:57:26.000 --> 00:57:28.040
condemnation, everything will go.

676
00:57:28.160 --> 00:57:30.120
All of the stress, all of the anxieties.

677
00:57:30.200 --> 00:57:38.080
It is very surprising that something that seems so ill, so irrelevant to what you

678
00:57:38.080 --> 00:57:42.040
think that your fear is will actually be the very thing that your fear is anchored

679
00:57:42.040 --> 00:57:46.400
in, and once that thing goes, you know, you completely shift, shift into rest.

680
00:57:46.800 --> 00:57:50.000
If that doesn't work, you can go through the other things that, um, will be in

681
00:57:50.000 --> 00:57:52.680
session, I think it's session seven.

682
00:57:53.120 --> 00:57:56.600
Um, but with the other one that I've also mentioned is the no judgment.

683
00:57:56.640 --> 00:58:01.200
We talked about that one on the fireside chat on Thursday and that

684
00:58:01.200 --> 00:58:02.760
no judgment is a really big one.

685
00:58:03.120 --> 00:58:05.640
Um, uh, yeah.

686
00:58:05.880 --> 00:58:08.200
So anyway, those are just two.

687
00:58:08.240 --> 00:58:11.480
And then the others though, I'll, I'll let y'all watch that video because

688
00:58:11.480 --> 00:58:15.360
it's like at least an hour long just to go through all of those.

689
00:58:15.840 --> 00:58:21.560
Um, but those are, those are tools that you can use to help, to give yourself an

690
00:58:21.560 --> 00:58:26.880
anchor of, of, uh, something to tell your soul that you're working on or that you're

691
00:58:26.880 --> 00:58:31.160
focused on to help you like shift into interest in a, in a given moment, like,

692
00:58:31.160 --> 00:58:32.920
okay, shame and condemnation.

693
00:58:32.920 --> 00:58:33.200
Okay.

694
00:58:33.200 --> 00:58:36.760
That I can kind of wrap my mind around and do something with that.

695
00:58:37.360 --> 00:58:41.880
Um, or the fact that, you know, the next one is to tell yourself to stop, to tell

696
00:58:41.880 --> 00:58:45.160
your soul and your body that whatever it is that they're afraid of to just

697
00:58:45.160 --> 00:58:46.680
stop and to just let it go.

698
00:58:47.160 --> 00:58:49.640
Um, and then the next one is no judgment.

699
00:58:50.040 --> 00:58:51.440
Um, what's the next one?

700
00:58:51.440 --> 00:58:58.200
The next one I think is to choose that you are, um, to choose that, that God is

701
00:58:58.200 --> 00:58:59.440
who he says that he is to the degree.

702
00:58:59.440 --> 00:59:04.040
He says he is that, and then, um, act on it, um, act on where your spirit

703
00:59:04.040 --> 00:59:07.640
finds peace, and the other one is to declare what God says and go

704
00:59:07.640 --> 00:59:08.840
where your soul finds peace.

705
00:59:09.280 --> 00:59:13.440
But, you know, all of that's in that, um, in that, uh, session, which I don't

706
00:59:13.440 --> 00:59:18.400
have time to go into all of it, but, so there are some specific tools that,

707
00:59:18.400 --> 00:59:22.400
uh, that, um, that, you know, I, I think that you would find helpful and

708
00:59:22.400 --> 00:59:26.160
there'll be in that other session, but, um, oh, there it is.

709
00:59:26.560 --> 00:59:28.000
I think she got out for a little bit.

710
00:59:28.320 --> 00:59:33.280
Um, but, uh, so what are your thoughts from everything that I said?

711
00:59:34.080 --> 00:59:34.520
You're right.

712
00:59:34.960 --> 00:59:35.160
Okay.

713
00:59:37.160 --> 00:59:45.840
Um, and one more thing that I just want to say is along that is, um, uh, what

714
00:59:45.840 --> 00:59:53.880
helps me is that I just chose, sorry, let me see here we go, is that I just

715
00:59:53.880 --> 00:59:59.200
chose, um, to that whenever.

716
01:00:00.000 --> 01:00:02.840
So I got, I got to the point where I stopped getting discouraged

717
01:00:02.840 --> 01:00:04.160
that things kept coming up.

718
01:00:05.360 --> 01:00:10.280
I'm no longer discouraged that things continue to come up in my life, because

719
01:00:10.280 --> 01:00:14.120
what I realized is this is the world in which I live.

720
01:00:14.240 --> 01:00:15.600
This is what I'm here to do.

721
01:00:16.200 --> 01:00:19.400
I'm not here to write a book, to have the rest intensive, to help other

722
01:00:19.400 --> 01:00:22.160
people to evangelize is not why I'm here.

723
01:00:22.200 --> 01:00:22.800
I don't know.

724
01:00:23.120 --> 01:00:27.200
I sometimes wonder why God's what people think that, that we are here.

725
01:00:27.200 --> 01:00:32.480
Um, uh, to evangelize people, if God created the world before people even

726
01:00:32.480 --> 01:00:35.160
send, I'm like, I don't understand, but anyway, that's okay.

727
01:00:35.320 --> 01:00:38.800
So the point is I'm like, apparently we were created for something completely

728
01:00:38.800 --> 01:00:42.640
different, but, um, while we could evangelize, while I could have the rest

729
01:00:42.640 --> 01:00:45.760
intensive, while we can do all that thing, all those things, what I am here

730
01:00:45.760 --> 01:00:49.840
for is I'm here to, um, I'm here to have a relationship with the Lord and to,

731
01:00:49.840 --> 01:00:53.320
and to, and to reveal him, to show him into creation.

732
01:00:53.320 --> 01:00:56.160
That's what Adam was created for, to show him and demonstrate him into

733
01:00:56.160 --> 01:01:02.840
creation and to have, and to express, you know, in his own kingdom, to express

734
01:01:02.840 --> 01:01:06.680
the goodness of God as a good King to his kingdom, just like his father

735
01:01:06.680 --> 01:01:08.120
is a good King to his kingdom.

736
01:01:09.000 --> 01:01:13.320
The issue is the kingdom that I inherited is subject to corruption.

737
01:01:13.840 --> 01:01:15.080
And that has to be dealt with.

738
01:01:15.120 --> 01:01:18.560
Now, thankfully the Lord's already had victory, but why I have to do is I have

739
01:01:18.560 --> 01:01:24.400
to come in to be a good King over a, over creation that thinks that, that

740
01:01:24.480 --> 01:01:26.320
the creation that's afraid of me.

741
01:01:26.840 --> 01:01:30.120
That thinks that is afraid that I won't protect them, that I

742
01:01:30.120 --> 01:01:31.520
won't look out for them, et cetera.

743
01:01:31.520 --> 01:01:38.480
So I am here to sacrifice myself to prove to them that I really am here for their

744
01:01:38.480 --> 01:01:42.120
safety, that I really am going to take care of them, that I really am going to

745
01:01:42.120 --> 01:01:46.960
give it my own life, that they might be saved, that they might be taken care of,

746
01:01:46.960 --> 01:01:50.560
that they might be released from, um, from frustration, you know, et cetera.

747
01:01:51.040 --> 01:01:54.520
And, uh, so when I realized, oh my goodness, this is, this is what I'm here

748
01:01:54.520 --> 01:01:59.760
to do, I just, I don't get discouraged that, oh my goodness, I'm, I'm further

749
01:01:59.880 --> 01:02:06.440
that I'm doing that, that I am not as far along as in the Christian walk.

750
01:02:06.440 --> 01:02:08.720
As I thought that I was, I don't know.

751
01:02:09.000 --> 01:02:14.000
I have another aspect of the flesh that I'm overcoming that I, and, and gives

752
01:02:14.000 --> 01:02:18.360
me an opportunity to choose yet again, who is my father and therefore who am I.

753
01:02:19.160 --> 01:02:21.080
And let me to put that on display.

754
01:02:21.960 --> 01:02:26.240
And that, and that requires an aspect of my flesh to die.

755
01:02:26.520 --> 01:02:30.720
But when my flesh dies, it doesn't die and then no longer exist.

756
01:02:30.760 --> 01:02:35.440
It dies, meaning it is overcome and is now replaced a spirit.

757
01:02:36.400 --> 01:02:41.680
So, um, it's, it's not like this progress bar that I'm measuring myself by about

758
01:02:41.680 --> 01:02:46.200
like, well, how far behind am I, or how far ahead or, or how good am I doing?

759
01:02:46.520 --> 01:02:51.800
It's, um, um, I'm just here developing my relationship with the Lord and I don't,

760
01:02:51.880 --> 01:02:58.280
um, and I'm just here, uh, revealing to creation repeatedly that I am who God

761
01:02:58.280 --> 01:03:02.640
says that I am, and over time, the more that I choose that I am that the more

762
01:03:02.640 --> 01:03:08.800
that he has seen, and the more that I discover how to demonstrate him, not

763
01:03:08.800 --> 01:03:15.800
just in, um, not just in a relationship, but also in power into, into creation.

764
01:03:15.800 --> 01:03:19.120
So anyway, and into the world, into my situation, et cetera.

765
01:03:19.120 --> 01:03:20.720
So it's just, it's just a process.

766
01:03:20.720 --> 01:03:26.160
I don't get, I don't get discouraged as much anymore, like on my word,

767
01:03:26.200 --> 01:03:28.880
because I know it's like, well, this is what I'm doing.

768
01:03:28.880 --> 01:03:30.920
I chose a lifestyle of rest.

769
01:03:31.120 --> 01:03:32.440
I'm not rest.

770
01:03:32.440 --> 01:03:34.920
Isn't some threshold I cross into.

771
01:03:35.800 --> 01:03:39.360
So, so what I'm teaching everybody is how to live a new lifestyle and

772
01:03:39.360 --> 01:03:40.880
approach life from a different way.

773
01:03:41.240 --> 01:03:43.440
It doesn't mean you're getting out of this world and you'll

774
01:03:43.440 --> 01:03:44.640
now be living in a new one.

775
01:03:45.280 --> 01:03:47.080
We're all still living in the same world.

776
01:03:47.120 --> 01:03:51.960
We all have the same life that we do now, but you'll live it more effortlessly

777
01:03:51.960 --> 01:03:54.840
and you'll live operating through it in more power.

778
01:03:54.920 --> 01:04:01.480
And from that, the after effect of doing all of that means that you will change

779
01:04:01.480 --> 01:04:05.600
your life and you will say, and, and it will, um, and you'll save it.

780
01:04:06.080 --> 01:04:12.680
So anyway, so, oh, I'm sorry, Christine trying on your phone.

781
01:04:13.280 --> 01:04:14.040
Um, okay.

782
01:04:14.040 --> 01:04:15.000
Someone asked a question.

783
01:04:15.000 --> 01:04:17.720
When did you mention the release from shame and condemnation again?

784
01:04:17.720 --> 01:04:19.520
And when was the no judgment one to go back to?

785
01:04:19.560 --> 01:04:21.840
Um, I think, I don't know.

786
01:04:21.840 --> 01:04:25.120
I think those were all on, uh, fireside chats.

787
01:04:25.760 --> 01:04:27.920
So they were on the password fireside chats.

788
01:04:27.960 --> 01:04:30.680
Um, uh, let's see.

789
01:04:30.680 --> 01:04:35.800
Also, you know, what I'm going to do is I'm going to find there's a practical

790
01:04:35.800 --> 01:04:41.000
shifting tools post that I made where I literally wrote all of this out,

791
01:04:41.000 --> 01:04:45.680
all of the practical tools, and I am going to repost it at the top.

792
01:04:46.040 --> 01:04:48.400
And, um, so that y'all can find it.

793
01:04:48.400 --> 01:04:53.280
And then of course, to the expanded version of like, to hear me like flesh

794
01:04:53.320 --> 01:04:57.640
out each of those things that will be in session seven, I believe.

795
01:04:58.120 --> 01:05:00.040
Um, when y'all get through that on the teaching.

796
01:05:00.000 --> 01:05:01.320
And so, anyway.

797
01:05:04.240 --> 01:05:10.560
Alright, well, it is 1012 for me, so I'm going to close everything out.

798
01:05:10.680 --> 01:05:13.080
Um, are these and nevermind.

799
01:05:13.120 --> 01:05:13.400
Okay.

800
01:05:13.400 --> 01:05:14.680
You got, I already answered that question.

801
01:05:15.280 --> 01:05:18.960
Um, and, uh, yes, if y'all have any questions, y'all just feel

802
01:05:18.960 --> 01:05:23.680
free to ask them in the, um, uh, in the, I keep calling it the chat.

803
01:05:23.700 --> 01:05:24.620
It's not the chat.

804
01:05:24.960 --> 01:05:28.360
It's the, the wall, you know, in the Facebook group, you know, just feel

805
01:05:28.360 --> 01:05:31.840
free to ask questions that that's what Cicely's doing, and I think that's great.

806
01:05:32.160 --> 01:05:33.600
Being able to ask things in between.

807
01:05:34.040 --> 01:05:40.040
And, um, also I am going to post the Calendly finally, um, for everyone to

808
01:05:40.040 --> 01:05:44.000
pick their, um, their transformation sessions, like when they want to do

809
01:05:44.000 --> 01:05:51.680
their transformation sessions, because, uh, over the next four weeks and I guess,

810
01:05:51.760 --> 01:05:54.000
I guess that's it, so anyway.

811
01:05:54.560 --> 01:05:55.120
All right.

812
01:05:55.160 --> 01:05:59.720
Well, um, it was good to get to see everybody and I will see y'all this week.

813
01:06:00.480 --> 01:06:01.040
Bye.