All right, well, it's good to see everyone.
I'll start us out with a question that came through
that I just haven't answered yet on the,
I keep wanting to call it the chat,
but I think it's like the Facebook wall
or the discussion board or something.
And Kate had asked me about speaking in tongues
and she'd heard me one time,
maybe it was in the, one of the teaching sessions,
like the Enter His Rest teaching sessions,
where she said that I happened to mention
speaking in tongues from your stomach.
And I thought the first time I heard it,
that that was very strange
and I didn't know that that was possible,
but I heard from this man,
and again, this is this man's quoted experience
with the Lord, where he said,
I think he saw some other people,
and I don't remember if it was in a vision
or if it was, is in real life.
And he was asking the Lord what was going on
and the Lord, and he said that the Lord told him,
well, they're speaking in tongues from their belly.
They're speaking in tongues from their stomach.
He's like, that's possible?
He's like, yeah.
And then, so then he learned how to do it.
I thought, well, that's really fascinating.
So the way that I started doing it
is what I'd already been doing,
and I've never heard anybody say that they do this before,
but this is what I've always done,
is I, you can speak,
I found out that you can speak in tongues,
obviously, with your mouth open,
you know, and your lips are moving,
your tongue is moving,
and so it's as honest as if,
it's not that you're out of control,
but it's as if your body was taken over, so to speak.
You start speaking this other language
that you don't know the words to, et cetera,
unless the Lord gives you the interpretation for it.
Well, sometimes you want to speak in tongues
and you want to speak silently, at least I do.
And I don't want someone else to know
that I'm speaking in tongues sometimes.
So I started to move it into my head
so that instead of speaking,
like you speak in English in your head
and you also speak it with your mouth,
I just, I did the same thing.
I just reverted it.
I just like, okay, instead of speaking in tongues
with my mouth, I'm just going to shift it to my mind.
And so I started speaking in tongues in my mind.
And then what I did to move it to my stomach
was I started speaking in tongues in my mouth,
then I moved it to my head,
and then I kind of like could figure out where that was
and how that felt.
And kind of like, as if you grab a hold of it,
you know, you understand what it is you're doing.
And then with intention, you can make yourself,
you can move it, you can manipulate it, so to speak.
And then I moved it down into my stomach.
And then I began to speak in tongues from my stomach.
I know it sounds really strange.
It's not, but I could just,
it's one of those things where you feel it
like you feel things in the spirit,
where you feel a particular way inside
and you know that that's not a normal soul emotion.
And that's not a normal physical feeling that you have.
It's something, it's like when you sense something
inside of you that's a feeling
and you know that it is a spiritual feeling,
not that it's a soul feeling,
one of your emotions that you're used to feeling.
And it's not something that's physically happening
in your body where, I don't know,
you're feeling one of your organs move around
or you're, you know, being pushed
or you're feeling your, I don't know,
digestive juices like churning or something.
It's not, you can know that it's not those things
and it's very other, and that's what I feel.
So anyway, that's all I know.
Kind of like feeling it in my gut.
And no, well, the speaking in tongue,
well, yeah, yeah, the feeling it's something in your gut.
Yes, it's like that feeling.
Only I know that I'm speaking in tongues versus,
but yeah, it's that feeling of, you know,
you feel it in your gut and you know
that that's not your soul
and you know that that's not a physical feeling either.
It's this other, yeah, that thing.
That's how I know to recognize that that's what I'm doing
because I'm intentionally moved it from my head down there.
And when I'm feeling something down there
because I intentionally moved it down there,
I know that it's the spirit
and it's something new that I'm doing
versus attributing it to, oh, I'm just felt that way
because I don't know, I'm digesting lunch or something.
It's very, very different.
So is it happening in your mind at the same time?
No, no, I just, I don't know, it just moves down.
So you could take it or leave it.
I've never heard any teaching on it.
I just heard this man, this one teacher talk about it.
And he just said that that's what the Lord told him.
And then he started doing it.
And so I thought, well, that's really fascinating.
Let's see if I can do it.
And then, so because I'd never also heard
of anybody talking in tongues in their mind either,
even though we all do it in English,
I was like, why couldn't I do it in other tongues?
So I've literally never heard anybody else
say that they do that.
I just started doing it because I was like, why not?
So when he started talking about the stomach thing,
I thought, well, I've been doing it in my mind.
So.
well, why couldn't I just take what I'm doing in my mind and see if I can move
it down? And that's what I did.
So the Lord's never really like come to me and talk to me about it.
I just tested it and that's what happened.
So I've just done it a few times just because it's, I just found it's interesting.
Also, um, I was talking to somebody,
maybe it was Lindsay about this one time, um,
recently about like feeling things in our gut and whatever.
And we were talking about the fact that we had heard that people
say that, that, uh, your soul is attached to your body
at your stomach. So whether or not that's true, I don't know.
All I'm saying is that's what I've heard from people who sound like they,
they believe that they know what they're talking about. So, and these are,
these are people that are very reputable, uh, uh,
teachers that, you know, I listened to and I respect, et cetera.
And they're saying things like that.
So it's one of those things that you just kind of take for, Oh, well, that's a,
that's a fascinating possibility. And,
but then you're accountable to the Lord or what it is that you believe,
you know, and whatever. But so that's what that was.
I don't teach on it or anything. I just like,
it's just something that I've tried based off of something that somebody else
said that I respect and it worked. I'm like, Oh, that's fascinating.
Morning.
All right. Let me just make sure everything is muted.
Okay. So did someone have, did anyone have a, um,
another question to start us off with?
Okay.
Sounds like that. Generally speaking, you know,
everyone's doing really well as in like, they've had these amazing. Um,
and this is what I've talked to Ed about. I said, Adam, so excited, you know,
people have, people are getting that or crossing that first major
threshold, which lets them know between them and Lord. Oh my word, Lord,
that really is who you are. So, which is extremely important. Um,
and that's always my goal in the rest intensive is to help everyone pass that
particular threshold. Um, so that they can finally realize, Oh my,
they step out in an amazing risk, like emotionally with the Lord, like, Oh my word,
Lord, are you like this, um, in, in a manner of speaking,
turning away from the way that they used to approach the Lord and turning
towards what it is that he says that he is. And then final, like in a very,
in a very, um, I don't know,
just in wild reckless abandoned faith and everybody's situation circumstance
looks different and how they do that. But they do it to the point where it,
and, and it's, and that it's real.
And that God responds and they find that I am not the only one that God
shows up for. I am not the only one. In other words,
it personalizes it for them.
It's no longer something that they hear from someone else.
It's something that they actually get to experience and be like, okay,
my God really does do that. And he does that for me.
He is like that. And he's like that in my life. So what it is,
he says in the Bible,
he sees me and he interacts like that in his character,
what he declares in the Bible that he is. He interacts like that in my life.
He's not only good, he's good in my life. He's not only love, but he loves me,
you know, et cetera.
And so I was excited to hear that y'all have been experiencing that because
that's vitally important in order for y'all to own this and take this, um,
to own this in your own relationship with the Lord and the Lord will just
continue to grow it and to flush it out.
But it's very important that people finally begin to claim that,
that, that choose that faith in the Lord,
choose make that decision that their God is going to be their God and that he
is going to be who in their life, who he says that he is.
And that means that they,
we have to turn away from the way that we've used to approach him and that we
used to declare him to be, and now declare him to be something different.
And then he reveals to us after we declared that that's who he is.
Then he reveals in our lives through evidence. In other words,
by some kind of a spiritual experience that we have with them,
sometimes by a physical experience that we have with them.
However it is that he chooses that he reveals himself after you stepped out in
faith. And then he shows, shows you, yes, child, that is who I am. You know,
I appreciate you believing me. I appreciate you receiving me. And yes,
I am going because that's what you choose me to be.
That is who I will be in your life. So I was very excited about that.
Was that a Sicily asked,
so you'd mentioned that Ed had a prophetic word for us.
Was that what he shared last time we were on here? Yes. That's what it was.
Is that he had just been able.
to see, um, kind of like where, um, kind of like a, another picture of wherever everybody
kind of was, what this just kind of looked like, I don't know if you will in the spirit
or whatever, just another, um, another way to, for us to see where it is that we all
were.
And, um, anyway, so, but yeah, yeah, that was it.
So, and then he and I talked today about, again, about that personal ministry, which
is his time.
I will not be on there.
That will just be between, um, between y'all.
Um, I wanted to make sure that, uh, he just had that time with y'all, um, and, uh, because
it's, because it's likely to be more powerful that way.
So anyway, you just has a special, you just has a special gift.
Yes.
Yeah.
Um, I want him to release comparison in the learning exactly it's, um, uh, that's one
of the things that he is, um, really good at and known for, um, is being able to speak,
be able to see people and receive people exactly as they are and be able to receive them with,
um, compassion, you know, et cetera, uh, regardless of how much of a struggle that they're going
through.
Cause he, he, he usually is dealing with people when they're, um, uh, the people that come
to him or are coming to him for coming to him for ministry for a reason.
So he's known for having a lot of compassion for people who are just in whatever stage
that they are fully accepting them as they are, and then allowing them the safe place
in order to heal.
So anyway, yeah.
So, um, does anyone have anything or is everyone all good?
Yeah, go ahead, Kate.
Um, I was thinking the other day about what it looks like to step out in faith and we
talk about, you know, an action.
A lot of times there's an action item that comes along with our faith to activate our
faith.
And there was times that I would, you know, want to get off of all of my supplements because
I just believed that God wanted to heal me.
And so in faith, because I did believe that that was my belief system and in faith, I
would just discontinue them all at the same time.
And then my body would freak out and things would be out of control.
And then I would have to go back on them.
And there were some that I like would slowly taper off, um, over a course of time.
But I think oftentimes whenever I am trying to step into something new and I'm asking
the Lord, like, you know, what is an act, how do I, um, demonstrate my faith and what
does that action item look like?
Um, I don't know if you could, I know it's not the same every time and it should be spirit
led.
For me, first supplements, just as an example of one thing, um, it's happened to me before
with like fear of man, just like walk up to that person who you feel super intimidated
by and just talk to them and break off fear of man.
Or, um, so the supplements I would like get off all of them and then my body would freak
out and I would have to go back on them.
And then there's times that I would just like slowly wean off of them.
And I seem to do pretty well, um, with that, but yeah, I don't know if you could just speak
a little bit about, um, uh, exercising our faith as we're stepping into this new belief
system.
And I know you can relate.
Sometimes you're like, I'm intense.
Right.
So I'm like, I have to do the intense thing to demonstrate my faith.
Yeah.
It's super real.
I'm really serious about this thing.
I really do believe it.
And sometimes it backfires and sometimes it doesn't.
So I don't know if you have any thoughts on that.
Yes.
Um, and I'm glad that you're bringing it up.
answer a question that, um, uh, well, I don't really know that it's a question, but it was
kind of a, a statement that Cicely made in a comment to, to a post that I made yesterday
or the day before.
And so, and then I've been meaning to respond to that.
So this I'll be able to respond to both at the same time.
And that is to clarify what it is that we're supposed to have faith in.
Um, so we don't have, we're not having faith that God is going to manifest his character
in a specific way.
We're having faith that his character is that thing, but we don't know how he's going to
manifest that.
So that means that, um, that for instance, well, uh, you know, if you're, for instance,
on supplements, et cetera, or like me, when I was on an antidepressants, um, I asked the
Lord, you know, Lord, you know, can I get off of these antidepressants?
And he said, no, it's like bummer because in my, and, and I was very, I was very frustrated
because I didn't want to be on them because I knew that I was, uh, my body had built a
dependence on them.
It was using them, et cetera.
Again, this is before I even learned about rest, et cetera.
I didn't want to get, it took even getting to the antidepressants took me a long time
because I, I did not grow up in a home that believed in.
Like all of this, like organic stuff and natural healing and essential oils.
This was long before any of that started being coming more mainstream.
So I just had something in me that was just kind of like, I don't know, that
just doesn't feel like you're relying on the Lord, you know, to be on an end, to
be in a, to, to have an antidepressant and to whatever, and so I didn't even
think that a Christian could be depressed or at least a zero one who loved the Lord.
You know, so I, I fought the idea that I was even depressed.
Finally, I admitted I was depressed, but then it took me, it took me several
months to finally get to the point where I was okay, going to see, uh, what was it?
Maybe I got on antidepressants first.
Maybe it took me a while to get on antidepressants and finally
admitted that I couldn't do it.
That, um, that picking myself up by my own bootstraps and pursuing the
Lord harder wasn't helping me.
It wasn't healing me of my depression.
And so I got an antidepressants.
And then it took me a long time after I got an antidepressants to
admit that I needed counseling.
Cause I was like, no, you know, cause me and the Lord can do this.
You know, if, if I, if it's not just me and the Lord, I'm not having faith
and I'm not relying on the Lord.
So this is what all I was telling myself, et cetera.
So then once I got on antidepressants, I didn't like the fact that I was on them.
It made me, and I'm just confessing to y'all.
I felt weak.
I felt like a weak Christian.
I felt like a weak person.
Um, I don't know, et cetera.
It was all of these lies that I had built up of, uh, of the meaning around
the system of like medicine or, or science.
And I don't know just what it means to be a Christian.
It, and so I was in violation of my own self-made religion
is really what it was.
And so, um, I was, I was, uh, and what.
Let's us know that we're doing something like that is if we get, how
would you describe that feeling?
It's not desperation.
It's, um, it is desperation, but it's like, um, it's like a, an
anger and indetermination.
Um, it's like a, a very heavy, heavy weighted determination to, to get out
of, and to stop doing what you're doing or to avoid something that seems
to be inevitable, that you really are trying to avoid doing like getting
on antidepressants or whatever.
So that kind of a heavy feeling can let, you know, you're actually in
violation of a self-made religion instead of actually following the Lord
because with the Lord, everything feels like love and freedom and life.
And, and it's completely disconnected from an action, so to speak, it's not
the action, so to speak themselves that are like the bad thing, et cetera.
It's just, it's why we're doing them.
It's the source from which we're approaching them, you know, or are we
doing it in love, faith and freedom in the Lord or, or, you know, and, and
because God says to do it, or are we doing it in self-preservation, you know, et cetera.
So anyway, that all being said, once I was on the antidepressants, I asked
the Lord, Lord, can I please get off of these antidepressants?
And he said, no, he said, you can't do it.
And so I'm trying to remember how this all worked.
Um, uh, maybe before I asked him, I tried to get off of them and I couldn't, like
I got off of them and I crashed and burned.
And so I got back on him and then maybe after a while, maybe that's how it worked.
Then after a while I asked him, okay, God, last time I tried that, that didn't work.
Now I'm asking you, can I get off of them?
And he said, no.
And I was very disappointed.
And then, uh, a while later I asked him again, I said it meaning like, like
a good amount of time it passed.
And I asked him again, Lord, now can I get off them?
And he said, yes.
And when I got off of them, I'm telling you, I got off cold Turkey.
Just completely.
And I, I had, I had, uh, the antidepressant level that they gave me
wasn't enough and they'd had to double it.
I was on that much antidepressant.
How many grams milligrams that was?
I don't know.
All I know is that it was significant and, and I got off of it cold Turkey, but
I waited until God said, yes, you now can.
So I, that, so I wasn't just doing it because I thought, well, surely
this is how God wants me to live.
So therefore I will do the things that me and my own mind have decided that to do
this is godly and to not do this as sin.
I'd made that up.
And so what I had to do is I finally had to realize, okay, Lord, then you, then
I'm asking you, what is it that you want me to do, which tools do you
want me to take advantage of, et cetera?
I still didn't like being on the antidepressant understand, but I had to
realize, okay, maybe there's just something about following the Lord that
I just don't grasp because when I'm.
Asking God, can I do the godly thing and get off of it?
He says, no.
Okay.
And then when I tried it before I failed, but then when I finally asked him later
and he said, I could, I went off at cold Turkey and my body handled it just fine.
I mean, no withdrawal symptoms, nothing.
It's because he said, yeah, now you can finally do that.
So my, um, and what I, that was years and years and years and years ago.
So I didn't understand why it worked that way.
Other than you ask the Lord and he says, no.
And you obey him.
You ask the Lord again.
And he says, yes.
And you obey him.
But what do you do if God doesn't say something?
So that's what I didn't understand.
And that's what I wasn't had didn't learn yet.
And so not until many years later when the Lord started teaching me about rest.
And then after I'd been in, been living like that in rest and in faith for a while,
he then began to teach me more and more about what faith means and how to,
especially how to operate in faith.
When you're not hearing a directive from God, do this, don't do this.
Well, what about when there's silence or that's what it feels like anyway,
whether or not there is silence.
I don't know.
Cause God's talking to us all the time.
All I know is that I'm asking for a definitive direction and I
don't feel that I have that.
So what do I do then?
And I was asked, or what do I do?
And this is how God really began to teach me about faith.
What do you do when there's unfulfilled promises?
When God says something and you can't see it happen.
So what are you supposed to have faith in?
You know, if anyway, so, um, what God began to show me.
So say all that is background to help you to give you an idea of,
I'm not just speaking theory here.
This is something I've actually had to live and I've had to go through all
of the traumatic emotions of all of the ups and downs, and sometimes
it's working and sometimes it's not.
And what am I doing?
Sometimes gets it right.
And sometimes doesn't.
So I, um, and, uh, anyway, so I asked.
So when the Lord was teaching me about faith, one of the things
that he was teaching me about, he taught me very, very intensely
about it last year, very intensely.
And he was showing me, Ashley, I want you, um, I want you to give up your
attachment, basically you're holding me accountable for the manifestation
of my character and just choose me.
And my character and then leave how it is that I reveal that
character into your life on my own.
So, you know, can you be on the medication?
Can you be off the medication?
Can you, you know, whatever, um, that, that is between you and the Lord.
Um, but what it is that he wants us to have faith in is that
he is the particular thing.
So my point is, if you're asking a little, should I get off the
supplements or whatever, how do I act on my faith?
It all starts in what is your faith in your faith is in God, not
in doing or not doing something.
So it's not the, the, uh, so when you're acting on your faith, okay.
If God is good, what, how would I live?
What would I do not if God is good.
Therefore, that means that I don't have to be on medication or supplements.
I'm not saying I'm not comparing supplements to medication.
I'm saying medication because I was on medication.
I keep comparing it, I suppose, to my situation, but well, then if he's good,
then I wouldn't be on medication.
No.
Has nothing whatsoever.
There's no connection whatsoever because the medication supplements, food, sleep,
money, those are simply tools.
Those are not manifest.
Those aren't definitive manifestations of his character.
God is good.
Even when he doesn't make things, even when things aren't comfortable in our
lives, God was good the whole time that Jesus was being tortured, murdered,
you know, and dead, you know?
So how things look and manifest in life is not, um, uh, you know, whether
it's a comfortable or not is not indicative of whether or not God's good.
God's good regardless.
And so what God's always trying to teach us is how to disconnect our faith in
who he is from how it manifests.
So then, so the way that I began to do it is think like, okay.
Um, regard, I give up what it, how it is that I want to live.
I want to live on supplements.
I don't want to live on supplements.
So I'm just making a guess and I'm just going to, for the sake of this, uh, well,
I'll just use my own example and not yours.
I didn't want to be on antidepressants.
So I couldn't say, well, the way that I want to live Lord is I don't
want to be on antidepressants.
And if you're good and if you love me, and if I'm healed, then surely you
don't want me to be on antidepressants.
Well, that's an assumption that I'm making.
It's how God's character, how I live here on earth does not nest is, is not.
Um, how do I put that?
It's not what I'm supposed to have faith in.
I'm supposed to have faith that God is who.
Says that he is.
So if he is that I completely give up him, me not having to be on antidepressants.
Okay.
God, if I'm on antidepressants, I'm on antidepressants, but God, you're good.
You haven't abandoned me because I'm like this.
You still love me.
You know, I, I'm not, um, what, I don't know.
I'm trying to think of like, you're, you're still, you are protector.
You're protecting me.
I'm not, I'm not abandoned.
I'm not weak.
I'm not in lack because those are all of the things that we can be tempted to
believe that we are, if we're on supplements or if we're, if we're dependent
on supplements, if we're dependent on medication, we're dependent on things.
We're like, well, that means they're for that.
And we're coming out of agreement with things that God said, we have
to completely disconnect them.
Choose that.
They're not saying anything different about God than what he said.
And that's what we have faith in then.
Okay.
If I believe that God is good, well, how would I live?
What would I do, et cetera.
So what you do is you kind of like, if you're trying to make a decision, you
think, okay, well, I believe that God is good.
I choose Lord that you're a protector.
I choose Lord that you're a provider.
So if that is true, how then will I live?
And you find in that place, you're still asking God, God, what is your will?
Should I be on medication or should I not?
You're not making this decision on your own.
Like, well, I don't, I don't want to be.
So if God's good, then I can make my own decisions.
No, you and God are still living life together, but you finally
chosen that he and who he is.
And what he says is more important than what he, than the decision that's made.
And so in that freedom, now you ask his, now you ask his heart.
Now you ask as well.
Okay, God, now that I'm okay with whatever answer you give,
how then are we going to live?
And if he doesn't tell me to get off of something, if I don't feel freedom to
do it, if I do not feel in my spirit, that there's support from him to do that,
well, then I don't do it because.
I mean, and that's just, that's just me, but then there's other areas in which
you'll figure out when you're trying to make a decision that you do feel freedom
in, you do feel an opening in your spirit.
And then, and then you move towards that meaning like open, like you feel
like God is giving you a yes.
God is giving you an open.
He didn't say yes, but cause you listened for yes or no.
And you didn't hear one.
So you just kind of have to go where you're feeling a freedom where you're
feeling an opening, you know, et cetera.
And what it is that we always want to choose is whatever we believe to be a
rough, uh, where, what we believe to be reflecting God's character, who it is
that we know him to be as a being in our relationship with him, where do we see
him in the, in the, the, uh, to, in the decisions that are, we're holding before
us as options, what, where do we sense his character, not what have we believed
him to be in the past of, well, these are good.
This is a godly way to live.
And this is ungodly.
And we can't think like that anymore.
So, cause that then we're going to be swayed based on our own self-made religion.
So what we have to do is we had to figure out where, based on who it is that I'm
discovering God is based on my, on my relationship with a being, not on what I
read in scripture and how I'm trying to interpret it because so often we've done
that trying to isolate ourselves from, from the being and trying to figure out
the rules, trying to figure out the formula, trying to figure out a way to
predict how he's going to show up.
If I do this, he'll do this.
If I don't do this, he won't do this.
So I'm not saying we shouldn't rely on scripture.
I'm saying that if we can't isolate ourselves from the relationship and who
our spirit has come to know, who he is as a being and try to figure it out from
scripture, because that's where we're.
Uh, that's how we got ourselves in the, the, uh, problem that we're in, in the
first place where we're looking at decisions and we just, we made a judgment
call that this type of thing is godly and this one isn't, and we can't do that anymore.
We have to choose who is God, who, who, who, who are he and I together?
You know, who is this being okay now based off of who he's been revealing to me and
how my spirit feels as he moves in me.
And now that I choose that to believe that I abide in him and I'm feeling him more
and more because I'm in him.
So I'm always feeling him move from that place.
Where do I sense that his character is in these two decisions?
Not in one is godly and one is ungodly, but rather where am I seeing him in my
life, reveal himself to be, and then start moving in that direction.
And then what I do is I always tell the Lord.
God, you haven't told me specifically what to do.
You haven't given me a yes or no, but Lord, I'm going to choose this one because
based off of what you've revealed to me, the time that we've spent together, how
my spirit feels in your presence and.
how me choosing that I am who you say that I am.
And I'm in that place right now,
because I've shifted into the place of rest,
which is the only place from which you can make a clear,
righteous decision.
You know, from that place, Lord,
this is where I sense your character is over here.
So God, I'm gonna move towards that.
And as I move towards that,
would you continue to reveal to me
whether this is the right direction?
You know, and so you just move a little closer towards it,
you know, and if you still feel freedom,
well, then you move a little closer towards it.
And then if you still feel freedom,
then you move a little bit closer towards it,
because you're not making decisions
from the outside of God,
trying to check on him periodically as you're doing it,
like, okay, are you still okay with this?
Are you still pleased with me?
You have to do it from inside God now.
You and God living life together,
that's where you know whether or not
you're still in the will of God.
And if you're still moving in a direction of freedom
towards where you believe his character is.
The point in talking about where his character is,
is he will, if you're making decisions
based on that reasoning,
not on self-protection and self-preservation,
but on the reasoning of where is his character in God,
that is why I'm choosing it,
because I'm choosing you, not self-preservation,
not what I want, not what I think you want from me,
but who I think you are.
If you're moving towards that,
what I tell God is like,
God, that is why I'm making, I'm choosing that.
And so if I'm wrong, Lord,
if that's not actually your character,
will you protect me in making this choice
for the reason that it's your character?
Will you protect me in making this choice
if there are consequences,
because that's actually not who you are,
will you then show me who it is that you are?
I'm more interested when I'm making decisions,
and this is what I always tell the Lord,
I'm more interested, Lord,
in you revealing to me that that's not your character
than me avoiding the consequences.
Because me going into this thing
is me risking the potential consequences,
but I'm choosing God over avoiding the consequences.
But because he hasn't told me
which one to make the decision in,
then I'm gonna be like,
okay, where am I gonna put my risk?
I'm gonna put my risk that this is who God is,
even though when I get there,
it might, God might reveal
that that's actually not who he is,
but you know, he'll be thrilled, and he is,
he's absolutely so thrilled
whenever I pursue something thinking that it's him.
And he's like a parent
trying to create a protective environment
for me to make mistakes.
But if instead, it's very different,
we start reaping some of the same,
similar consequences to Adam and Eve
during the fall,
if we choose decisions based on our own self-preservation,
believing that we're separated from God,
that God hasn't given us an answer of yes or no,
so therefore, he's abandoned us,
you know, he hasn't told us how to protect ourselves,
so we're gonna have to do it.
And we make our decision like this,
because well, God, you didn't tell me what to do,
so I have to rely on my own knowledge and wisdom,
and I'm gonna make this choice.
That's making that choice out of self-preservation.
That's moving ourself out from underneath his protection.
I'm not saying that God won't protect you,
you're still his child,
but you do intentionally move yourself out
from under his authority and his protection
in the same way that Adam and Eve did.
You saw what he did after that.
He said, well, now you have to bear these consequences
of your choice that you decided
you didn't wanna rely on me,
you wanted to rely on yourself.
But even then, he still provided for them.
He still sacrificed a lamb and covered them,
you know, with clothes.
He still made provision for them.
He sent Jesus later on,
and then he still talked to them and whatever.
But they bore the consequences of pursuing something
that was in self-preservation.
But if you choose something,
thinking that that is God's character
and that's why you're doing it,
not because it's out of self-preservation,
then God will, in a manner of speaking, bubble wrap you.
He'll take on the responsibility of your protection
because that is what you believe
that you're submitting yourself to.
So you will still have to bear some consequences,
but they're not as severe as what it would be
if you're choosing it because out of self-preservation.
Does that, I mean, I've really tried to
really flesh this out and expand on it
because it really is like this whole teaching
in and of itself, but does that make sense?
Yeah, that's super helpful.
As you were speaking, I was like,
I know I had a lot of religious strings
attached to these acts of faith that I was doing.
If I don't do this thing
and discontinue all my supplements,
I don't have access to my healing
because I'm not demonstrating that I truly believe this.
Or if I don't go and approach that person
that I'm super intimidated by.
I, you're never going to break off the fear of man in my life.
Like I have to do this thing in order to get the result that.
Yeah, correct.
And so you just, you trust instead, you just submit yourself, excuse me,
just submit yourself, you know, into the hands of the Lord and then just
allow him to show you how to live life.
So your, I wish I knew how to, how to explain this, um, like with an
example of like, okay, what action do you take?
Uh, cause it was, again, it's not something that, that anyone's ever told me.
It's just things that I started doing.
And then now I have to figure out how to articulate it to other people about, well,
how do I recognize what to actually do?
But, um, uh, the best, the best way that I can describe it is like I said, I, I
make the dis, uh, if I'm trying to make a decision like, okay, God says he's good.
God says love.
Okay.
So therefore I need to choose that.
He is who he says he is.
Okay.
He's love he's protector.
He's provider.
I choose that that is my identity, that that is, um, that he is who he says that
he is, that I actually abide in him, that I'm not separated from him, that I'm in
his heart, that I'm of his character, that I'm spirit I'm up here.
I'm not here or here.
And then once I shift here.
So in other words, once I abandoned the decision, once I emotionally
detach myself from the decision, that's vitally important.
So in other words, you, you finally emotionally detach yourself and God, big
one, God, um, from whatever, whatever decision that y'all make and what your
lifestyle would look like, what it, what would be required of you, what action is
going to be asked of you as a result, you emotionally detach from that.
In other words, you choose God over that you choose.
That is more valuable.
That is more important.
Not that it is in theory.
No, you make it important to you.
It's an actual intentional movement that you make that God, I choose
that that's more important to you.
Once you shift up there and you've emotionally attached from the actual
decision itself, then things become more clear.
You make, then you're making a decision from the place of abiding inside God,
not from being outside of him or believing that you are.
And then you're trying to figure out what to do.
It's hard to hear God that way.
You don't hear him very clearly.
It's a lot more clear to hear him.
Once you've given everything up, I mean, like literally you've given everything
up, you no longer require God to show up in a particular way in your life
and no longer require of him that he asked you or not ask you to do specific
things, you no longer require anything like that of him and you shift into him.
And now from that place of complete freedom to just suddenly ask God, God,
you just revealed to me who it is that you are and you be that thing.
And you allow me to ride on the coattails of your character.
So we're now that I'm riding on the coattails of your character.
What are, where are we going?
What are we doing?
What does this look like?
And then you start feeling in your, in your spirit towards what feels
like freedom and what doesn't.
I'm trying to think one of the things that I do also in making decisions
is I allow my soul to have it say first.
I think we were talking about this a lot with, um, earlier with, uh,
Lindsay, when Lindsay was asking several times back about like relation,
was it relationships?
Um, maybe, oh, that's what it was asking about.
Like, well, what about like, when it feels like you're going around
the mountain again or whatever.
And so it was in that discussion that we were talking that I was
mentioning the importance of, oh, that's what it was when she said,
well, what about when you think that you've forgiven someone
and stuff keeps coming back up?
So I mentioned this when we talked about that, it's like, I always
that when you're trying to make a decision, you let your soul talk
first uninhibited, and you just tell your spirit to be quiet for a little
bit, because your soul is like a child.
It's going to yap.
It's more immature and it just wants to be heard.
It doesn't feel safe until it's heard.
It just wants attention.
So if you let yourself acknowledge fully.
What it is that you feel like and what it is you want to do and why, I
mean, you're honest with yourself.
I'm honest with myself and tell myself it's because I am so afraid.
I am so afraid of what so-and-so is going to think about me.
I'm so afraid of what it's going to require of me.
I'm so afraid that God's going to ask me to do this.
And I don't want to do that because I don't want it to be true.
And I don't want to believe that for the past 10 years, I don't want
him to tell me to do one thing when for the past 10 years, I believed
it was actually ungodly and oh my goodness, how much pain have I caused
not to mention the fact that I've been wrong all of these years.
If he tells me to do something different, I mean, all kinds of things.
I let my soul talk and my spirit, which is more mature, it is very patient
and it just waits its turn, but I very specifically think of.
I'm like two separate beings and just tell my spirit to be quiet for just a little
bit.
And then we both stand there and let my soul just yap.
Just tell me all the things that it wants and it doesn't want about this
situation. And then, and then we'll, okay, now,
so you think that about that decision? What do you think about this decision?
Oh, I really don't like this one because, you know,
because what if God doesn't show up? What if, so then I find out why my soul
doesn't like this other situation or why it does, you know, whichever.
Then after my,
I feel that my soul has has settles down because it feels like it's been heard.
So in other words, it feels safe again.
Then I tell my soul to be quiet now that it's had it say it's,
it's perfectly fine to be quiet. And then my,
and then I allow my spirit to talk.
The reason that that's important is if you don't allow your soul to talk first,
you cannot hear your spirit because it's yet the soul's just
but once it's, once you allow it to have it state,
it stops yapping and you can so clearly hear your own spirit.
And you're, we're not used to clearly hearing our spirit.
We're used to having to fight to hear our spirit.
Cause we're not on acknowledging this other aspect of ourselves.
That's by the way, not evil. Your soul's not evil. Your body's not evil.
God's not trying to get rid of them.
He's just trying to get them to come to agreement with the fact that he is
nothing to be afraid of. He meaning like spirit with capital S.
He's nothing to be afraid of. That's all he's trying to do.
He's not trying to eliminate them, eradicate them, you know,
demolish them or whatever. He's just like, you don't need to be scared.
So just let it be scared right now.
It's not anything to be afraid of to let it talk. So just let it talk.
Remember you're not your soul. You're not all that. You're not your fear.
If you're afraid, that's not you talking. Anything that's negative,
anything that's fearful, that doesn't believe the Lord,
that is your soul or your body. That is not your identity.
That's not who you are. And there's no need to be afraid of it.
It's the part of you that's there.
It's the part of you that's meant for the other part of you to protect.
So just let it talk. No need to be threatened by it. You know,
it doesn't define who it is that you are. So you let it talk.
And then once it talks,
then you can finally crystal clearly hear your spirit point about hearing your
spirit is your spirit knows the character of God.
So it's your spirit that knows in which direction it's feeling freedom.
Which of these two decisions do you sense the character of God?
Because your spirit is very familiar with the character of God. Yes.
You're continuing to mature in it as you become more and more exposed to it.
So it will become more clear, the more that we grow in him,
but you will more clearly be able to define which of the decisions that you're
feeling freedom from the spirit to move towards,
because your soul has had it say,
and now you can crystal clearly hear your spirit.
It's harder to, when you're hearing, when,
when the soul hasn't gotten to talk first,
because part of yourself is being ignored and you don't want to,
you want to allow all parts of yourself to be acknowledged. Uh, and, um,
to, uh, I don't know,
begin in significance and to be shown that they're valued. So anyway,
is that helpful?
Good.
Uh, so, so just looking at the chat really quick,
it's just me letting, making emotions, Heather full expression. Yes. Yeah.
Letting, just letting the soul have it say, yeah. Yeah.
So does anyone have anything else talked about that for probably like 30
minutes? It really is its own teaching in and of itself.
I think it's like number, you know, what is it? I think it may,
maybe it's at number 13 in like the full series,
maybe the session 13. So in Nora,
and I actually had to combine multiple teachings into one.
And that one I normally like spread them out and have like the whole decision
making process a bit longer,
just because it's something we all get so trapped in,
especially as performers is everything's based on my decision.
Everything's based on, um, my performance, my action. I'm just saying, sorry,
my computer says that it is dying.
It's amazing how fast that the, it goes through battery. When, um,
I'm on zoom, I'll have like half of the battery and it'll like,
try to go out in an hour. So does anyone have
anything else or anything related to
what, uh, Kate was asking.
Okay.
And I have not gotten to finish your, uh, video yet.
Um, Casey, I'm sorry. So I'm looking forward to that.
And I just thought Chris's when I, um, when I popped on and then I.
Oh, I loved your your journey share Kate from was that Saturday, I think, I think it was yesterday loved it so excited for you is great meant to need to respond to that as well.
So, but I don't remember any.
unanswered questions to be able to contribute.
I have another question, but I don't want to hog all the question time it's so somebody.
Well, no one else has popped up.
Questions Kate.
You do.
i'm getting a lot of my questions answered.
ask a question.
Good question.
You think really well.
I right I try to write them down during the week when they come or like in the middle of the night, I had a question I was like surely i'll remember tomorrow morning and then.
But um okay this isn't really well thought out so i'm just going to go for it.
i'm kind of vulnerable, I, I think, a common trends and when I feel.
i'm often around a lot of people, and I think actually this has probably taken place a lot, since I got saved and started going to a mega church and.
Just always feeling like.
What do they think about me or I don't think they like me or they're kind of cold every time I see them or they're kind of.
Maybe I said something that upset them or maybe I may maybe I said something in a tone that they misinterpreted or just like hyper sensitive in that area of like there's a component, I think, of fear of man, but like and and what do other people think about me.
But it seems to be just like this constant thing that comes up like oh they were they avoided me when they saw me or.
And then trying to think back, what did I do, or if I did something I want to take ownership over it so and I can't out there a lot in my mind and it's it's exhausting.
But it seems to be a trend in my life and I I don't want to go digging like trying to find the roots of all the things or.
Where did the stem from like childhood, you know rejection isn't fear of rejection is it and and so trying to figure it out in the soul realm and spin spin your wheels, because that just takes everything out of me or like what do I need to do to uproot this thing or but.
If I don't know if if that highlights something to you of what that thing is, and I know, actually, a lot of people experience it, I know a lot of friends who go through it, and so I know it's not super uncommon um yeah hope that it's some kind of question in there, so.
Yes, no, no, there definitely is and.
So I I struggled with that extremely and what helped is a couple of things one something that we've already all talked about is the fact that you know you you choose yourself.
In that situation, meaning like and I i've got to find a better a better phrase without that might help connect the dots for people bit better.
But you you you choose yourself you choose yourself as being valuable as being significant as being on is being who it is that God says that you are.
The Europe at most importance to him that you abide in him that you were taken out of him you've been put back into him God Jesus himself abides in you you abide in him y'all abide in the father and the father himself abides in you.
And that is the place from which you operate, that is a.
So an interesting way to phrase it but that's a very important position, and that is who you are your identity is your connection with God it's the point at which your your spirit is is identified is connected with him, that is the place of your identity and and and because in those situations that you're talking about that's that is manifest in you and that is the place of your identity.
And so, and so, again, this is a question that's manifesting all of those those questions and it's manifesting a lot of like self doubt desiring connection and being fearful of a lack of connection and and and so against the spilling of black So if you if you choose again Okay, no, I abide in the Lord I'm in the Lord I'm of the Lord, you know, etc, and then also that I am who he says that I am and that that's where it is that I am that's who I am, etc, that will that will quiet down a lot of the.
That will ultimately that will deal with everything. But in addition to that, and that's how I began to heal from it.
Because I would majorly overanalyze all of my interactions with people, all of them, I would overanalyze it's absolutely an exhausting way to live. So that was the biggest way that I got over it was just by choosing that I was who God says that I was, I had to choose.
It was a completely different approach to life altogether,
and I had to choose him over my life.
I had to choose him over how the relationships that I had
or that I wanted to have or the type of house that I would have
or whether I would go to college or whether I would go to what
kind of jobs that I would have or my career or my money
or whatever.
I had to choose.
I cannot express to you all the importance of what I refer to
in that write-up that I did where I refer to
as the ultimate choice, where you choose
God over everything else, and it will literally fix everything.
But as part of this step in that process,
another thing that I did that I could kind of grab
a hold of in addition to, OK, no, God says that I'm important.
I'm in him.
I abide in him.
I would go through all those things.
I would choose that I was who God says that I was,
and I would anchor my identity in that.
In addition to that, what I would do
is I would not allow myself to remember, rehearse, or replay
situations with people.
I wouldn't rehearse them before I went into them,
and I would not replay them when I left, especially
replaying them when I left.
I would not allow myself to do that,
and that, I will just tell you, was terrifying,
because it felt like I felt completely unsafe.
I was replaying things in efforts
to protect myself in order to avoid situations that could
potentially come up based on whatever it is that I said,
or maybe if I caught it in time, I could correct it.
I could fix it.
Again, it's based on this feeling
that everything depends on me.
Everything depends on my actions.
Everything depends on me figuring it out.
Everything depends on me fixing it.
There are thoughts about me, et cetera.
And anyway, that's what I did, going back
to the conversation we were just having about faith.
What do you have faith in?
Well, what do you have faith in, and then how do you act on it?
One of the things that I did in order
to act on that faith of God says that he is this,
and he says that I am this, therefore, what would I do?
I wouldn't rehearse.
And God even talked to the disciples
about not rehearsing before they went into something.
And he said, if you are called before a court,
he said, do not prepare.
He said, the Holy Spirit will tell you what you
need to know when you're there.
So my goodness, if he would tell the disciples to do that,
we don't need to be rehearsing, going into situations
or rehearsing how we're going to approach, enter the church.
And then when we see people, we don't.
So that was one thing.
Another thing was the replaying.
And I thought, OK, if I am who God says that I am,
and if I'm going to have faith in that, how would I live?
I thought, well, I wouldn't replay it.
I've got other things to do.
I interacted with that person.
That time is now over.
I am moving on to something else.
My time is important.
It's valuable.
God needs me doing things and experiencing things
and enjoying things and contributing to things.
I do not have time to spend the majority of my energy
on an event that started and stopped, and I'm now moved on.
I need to move on.
I've got other things.
And so it was valuing who it is that God says that I was.
So that was one of the things that I
would do in acting on my faith.
He says he's this.
He says I am this.
So therefore, what would I do?
OK, the no need to replay.
In other words, how do I stop trying to self-protect?
How do I stop trying to self-provide for myself?
So maybe that's a good question to ask yourself
is how do I act in faith?
In other words, how do I stop trying to provide for myself
and protect myself in ways that I'm not
showing my trust in the Lord?
I'm not actually leaving my reputation in his hands.
I'm trying to fix everything.
And I can't even control it anyway.
See, that's the thing.
You can't control it in any way.
You can't fix it.
Anyway, that's what I would do.
That was shockingly powerful, just strictly the not replaying.
Even forgetting the rehearsing part,
I stopped doing that as well.
But the biggest thing for me was to stop the replaying
and to allow the thing to end.
I interact with the person.
I walk off.
And I force myself to be thinking about something else.
And I would not allow myself to go back and rethink it.
And I had to be very strict with myself.
Don't do it.
And I had to do it choosing that in faith
that if God says that that is who he is and that's who I am,
then I'm safe.
unsafe because I'm reverting back to the replaying, believing I'm unsafe.
So, nope.
If that is me giving into self giving into the temptation to
self-protect, I'm not going to go there.
So anyway, that was honestly very, very big for me.
It's hard.
It's honestly, as weirdly as weird as it sounds, because even though it's only
happening in your head to not allow yourself to do, it can honestly be terrifying.
There's reasons why we do that.
There's doggone good reasons.
We've got other ways that we'd all rather spend our time.
So there's reason why we are giving it up to do that.
And it's hard to stop, but it is that the, the power that it
holds in our lives, how would you, how'd you put it?
That the intensity of the stronghold is, um, I don't, how would I, how would
I, where that is matched by the power that, um, uh, how would you put that?
So basically the thing is like, it has such a stronghold in your life and
it's holding such power over you that you telling it no is we'll have that
amount of power, um, will, will, um, will more, will, will operate in power
in your life in a positive way, to the same degree that it was
affecting your life negatively.
Think of how, how much of a stronghold that it has in you.
And think of that as kind of like a unit of power.
You just simply say no to it will thrust you forward with that much
power in the positive direction.
I know there's another way to put that.
I don't know exactly.
That's exactly how, what I mean, but I know that there's a better
way to word it than what I just said.
The point is it's that powerful.
So the power of no is extreme.
It's not like, oh my word, this is such a big stronghold in my life.
And oh my goodness, am I going to have to attack this stronghold 50 times?
Am I going to have to be that much more powerful than it?
No, a simple no and not allowing yourself to do it will has enough power to break
some, a stronghold that's that powerful.
That's what I'm trying to say is that it really won't take like 50 units of power
to destroy, you know, a unit, uh, to destroy this, the stronghold, like say
for instance, if it's a 50 unit strong, uh, 50, 50 unit, um, a unit of
power negative in your life, it's not going to take 50 units.
All it's going to take is one.
No.
And that, and that all of the destruction of that 50 units of power in
your life will be gone with no.
Now.
Yeah.
You're going to have to keep doing it.
You're going to have to keep stepping out in that faith.
I'm saying that it's shocking how powerful your, no, your simple, no, and
not allowing yourself to do that really will be, yeah, I promise you it's no
little deal.
Um, so we're thinking we're doing so such a little thing, but it is really
hard to do, but such a little thing really will, um, exponentially
free you in your life.
Um, I really got to come up with a better way to word that.
So I just wanted to say that to encourage you that it's what you will be doing
will be very, very, um, uh, will greatly affect your life very strongly.
So then, I mean, I think half the replaying is like, well, what if I did
say something to offend them, then maybe I need to think through it.
So that way I need to, so it's like, you just surrender it and just trust
that if you offended somebody, they're going to come back and tell you, and
then you can take responsibility for it at that time, if they do.
Yeah.
Everyone loves you and everything's fine and no one has anything against
you just like live in that reality.
Basically, because remember what I do, I just do in the extreme, because what
I'm choosing is I'm choosing God and operating as a son of God over my
reputation, I'm choosing God over my lifestyle.
So I have worked so hard to preserve having a life exactly the way that I
want it, and it wasn't getting me where I wanted to get with God.
So I had to abandon this completely in order to pursue him.
Like I needed to, because I couldn't, I couldn't, um, this
had too much of a hold on me.
I couldn't, uh, move into this the way that I needed to until I abandoned this.
So I would, I would just like, okay, God, even if I've offended them,
you know, or whatever, that is not my heart.
I'm just asking that you protect me while I'm trying to learn all of this.
And I would do it because I would choose me over the, over the
consequences of them being offended over the consequences of it
damaging my relationship with them.
It's very, very hard, but remember, this is so important.
Remember, we're not operating outside of God anymore.
It's so important.
Always walk into the church after.
You have remembered and chosen that you are who God says that you are, that that is who you are,
and that you literally are abiding inside of him, and then approach and enter the church,
we're just using the church as an example with all those people, church, Bible study, grocery store, whatever,
as a son of God, already having shifted into choosing that you are who God says that you are.
You're doing that before you even interact with the person, so that when you're interacting with the person,
you're interacting with them from the character of God, which is less likely to offend them,
unless they're very offended by the character of God, because there's something in them that's not in alignment with his character.
Then, obviously, the Pharisees were offended by Jesus, and Jesus didn't call that a problem.
He didn't take on that responsibility for them being offended, so that's what I just did.
I'm like, OK, God, instead of trying, I give up trying to do everything right for actually just living out of your character,
living as a being of love, of goodness, protecting, providing, being who you are into the earth.
I had to shift from thinking about the do's and don'ts, and did I do it all right, and did I say it all right,
and is that the Southern hospitality gospel way of approaching it, or do I approach it as a son of God?
I had to begin to learn to operate more out of my being than out of all of the rules that I knew to follow,
and that shift was hard because I'm risking destroying this.
I'm risking the consequences of what's going to happen as I'm a baby stumbling and falling,
and picking myself back up and falling, picking myself back up, but remember, just like God does with the baby
and puts a lot of extra fat on it to catch it so that it's not as damaged when it falls,
God does the same thing for us when we're learning how to do something.
It really will not experience all the damage that we think that we will because God knows,
hey, look, you're just trying to be like me. You're not trying to follow new rules.
We're not exchanging the rules of the world for now the rules of rest.
There's no rules of rest. It's God's character.
It's resting and abiding in God's character and operating and interacting with people by simply being who we are,
so shifting from doing and knowing and thinking and analyzing to being is really hard.
So is that helpful?
Did you hear me? Is that helpful?
I think we kind of lost you for a second.
My service cut out and it came back. That was super, super good. Thank you.
Okay, good. I wanted to make sure.
Because my biggest issues have been my fear of people.
Like I shared with all my biggest fear is emotional abandonment.
And that's emotional abandonment by people or God or whatever.
It's not fear of like no food or no been there.
It's not a fear of like no money.
I will do everything I can in order to avoid emotional abandonment.
And so it's meant to my detriment.
And so what I had to risk with the Lord is God, I choose you over trying to avoid my relationships,
emotionally abandoning me or you emotionally abandoning me, God.
I choose you even if you emotionally abandon me.
I literally gave up that my greatest fear to choose him.
It's that extreme.
That's what we have to do.
And so that's what we have to like risk of ourselves.
And so anyway, just ask the Lord to kind of walk you through it.
And, and remember, whatever you do, as y'all are learning to do all of these things, remember I am too.
I'm still I'm to do it.
And all my word, I'm being stretched.
And, and I've really, really, really struggled with, with stuff like these past, I don't know, several months or a year or something like that.
I've really struggled with some things.
I'm like, Oh my word, where did all of this come from?
And because I'm always having to grow in and expand my boundaries and rest in greater measures.
And, and, and I just, and I will tell you that the more loose you are, the more compassion you have, the less shame and the less condemnation, the faster you will move.
So, you know, take everything that I'm saying and all these things about how to have faith in the Lord and how to make decisions and just, just continue to choose them just to just like Laura, this, I just continue to choose you.
And then I mess up and I choose the world or choose my lifestyle or I do something else.
Catch myself. Oh yeah, that's right.
I shouldn't do that. Okay.
God, I choose you just be really relaxed about it.
Don't, if you get very uptight about it,
it will be harder to,
it will be harder to grow and mature
and it'll be more painful.
The more loose you are and more compassion,
the more that you have for yourself,
the more that you simply repent
and remember what repent is.
It's just, you catch yourself and you're like,
oh, okay, not to do that.
I'm going to be doing this instead.
Instead of like thinking you need to spend any time
on having realized that you were doing something that,
you know, was not of faith.
You know, it was not of the character of the Lord.
Instead of like, oh my word, man, I caught myself again.
I thought I knew, I thought I've learned better.
I thought I've come so much further.
Shame, condemnation, blah, blah, blah.
You know, I'm so depressed, I'm so sad.
I just want to sit in bed all day.
Just like, no, just like, okay, I realize it.
Okay, just stop and just do this instead.
And it is, I promise you,
I promise you, you shift in a moment.
I promise you that.
It is one moment of decision
and literally your feelings will change.
If all you do is you choose no shame and condemnation
and you simply turn towards what it is that God has said,
instead of like feeling bad about what it is
that you were doing, just like, okay, well, what did God say?
Okay, that's what I'm going to do now.
I promise you that everything,
including your feelings physically
and in your body physically as well,
will shift in a moment.
Not in five days, you know, in a moment,
it shifts with your new intention.
You're like, okay, that's what I'm going to do now.
It really is very wild.
So, rigidness makes me religious.
Yes.
And, oh, good, Kate, I'm glad it's helpful.
So, and then Cicely, you were asking,
are these recordings saved somewhere
for us to watch back later?
Yes, on the Rest Intensive members page
on the enterhis.rest page.
So, if you go there, yeah, these,
you have lifetime access to all of these fireside chats
and all of the rest groups.
They're all up on there.
You just, yeah, so anyway.
Well, I will let us go for now
because we're a little bit over,
which basically is the normal time we end.
So, but I'm so funny.
I always like, oh, we squeeze one more question in.
Well, I ought to know.
It's always going to take us to like 15 after.
So, but I'll let y'all go.
It's good to see all of y'all.
And I will talk to y'all on Tuesday.
And if any of y'all have any journey shares
to catch us up on, please do.
Let us know how the Lord is showing up in your life
and like revealing his character in amazing ways.
Look for it.
Look for how God is showing up in goodness.
Not, it doesn't always mean that everything that happens
is going to be beautiful and comfortable and fun,
but you saw God.
That's what's important.
Find God, see God, ask God to show you God,
just show up and then show me what you look like
and just do something and let me see it.
Doesn't have to be fun.
Doesn't have to be exciting.
Doesn't have to be comfortable, but see God.
Just ask the Lord if you'll get to see him.
And I promise that as weird as it sounds,
even if it's painful, it will be a treasure.
Some of my most treasured moments with the Lord
are actually painful because I saw him
and felt him in a more intimate way
than I did in the more comfortable times.
So anyway, so I'd love to see any journey shares
if anyone has anything, any,
and we'll have our rest group on Tuesday night
and y'all get to share with everyone.
And I'll see y'all then, bye.