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Let's go ahead and get started.

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Y'all doing all right.

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There we go. I was like, why is everyone unmuted and I can't hear everyone, I had muted myself.

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Oh, I know why, because are not muted myself and I didn't turn the volume off, because my husband was doing something and. And so I was doing, I was going through videos and transformation sessions making sure they were all uploaded and I didn't want.

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I didn't want him to have to him to hear the sound to interfere with what he was doing so I forgot.

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So I had to put a sweater on before I came down because it's cold.

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I'm sure that up in Montana, you're just like, whatever.

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I don't think we've had snow for weeks.

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I always wanted to visit Montana though. Oh my word. It's one of, it's probably the place in the United States that I want to visit the most.

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Come on up. It's amazing. I know I go to what I didn't know where you live. And I want to, I was wanting to visit like Western Montana with all the mountains and stuff.

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That's the only part of Montana that I've ever seen pictures that so yeah that's where I'm at. So, oh nice. Yep. Did you grow up there did y'all just move there.

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I did. Yeah, born and raised in Montana. Yep.

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I spent some time in Kalispell.

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Okay. Yeah, is that near where you live. It is that's about two hours away.

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So that's that's close.

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Yeah, Montana that. What is it that land of the big sky, because it's just so big. Is that right. Yes, sky country. Yeah.

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Well it is so weird. It feels so quiet I mean I know it's only three after we might have a few more people but still this feels just like really quiet.

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So,

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are you guys doing the December one intensive.

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Yep.

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Yeah.

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All y'all are signed up I'm so excited we've got five people so far.

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I don't know, you know what everybody else is going to decide but we've got well including me we have six but we have five people so that'll be a nice, a nice group.

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So, and we'll see if anybody else wants to tag along.

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So I'm glad that it seemed to be coming at a good time for everybody. So, that is helpful.

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Everyone wants to continue.

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What a new person's joining. Yes. So, yes, yeah Renata from Norway.

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So she's been on international person. And so, but she speaks fluent English. And anyway so I'll let her tell her story but anyway she's really really neat and of course I've gotten to know her the past six weeks and, and y'all are going to really enjoy

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So I got her, she signed up and I got her in the group.

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So, meaning like I, she was the only one I needed to add because everybody else was already in the Facebook group so that she's asleep right now.

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It's like two in the morning I think, or is it three no it's three in the morning. Wow, three in the morning, so she'll be getting up in a few hours when we go go to bed.

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Are you going to work out the time for her to join us.

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Um, I am. Oh, well I'm not able to, because there's because there's four time zones in it within the contiguous United States that I'm having to coordinate between.

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And the only time that we could that I.

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could possibly make it work was if I did Sundays at 4 p.m.

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our time, which makes it my time, which makes it 10 o'clock

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her time. So it'd be 10 to 11 on on a Sunday. And then that but

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that would make in California, I think that would make it like

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one. And so you and Kate are count in California, and some

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people's church services aren't even over by then, let alone the

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fact that everyone's trying to get home. And, you know, or in

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about that time, they're eating lunch. And I was just like, no,

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just can't do it. So that was literally the only time I could

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figure out and I didn't even know if or not I could do 10 to

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11. So it's like, you know, we're just gonna have to do what

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we have to do. And, and so she's gonna watch the replays. And she

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said she'd see if at some point she might be able to join a few

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times. So she'll, she'll just see what she can do. So. And I

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thought, well, because she was talking about like staying up

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then I was like, well, what if you like go to bed really early

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and then just wake up early? So who knows if she's gonna I mean,

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like if she wants to do it bad enough, so we'll see. We'll see.

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And she's already joined. But what I mean is like if she wants

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to join us in person, so either way, though, we'll get to

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interact with anybody, everybody on Facebook and meaning like in

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the Facebook group. And so anyway, well, and it feels very

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strange, because there's just the four of us, but hey, if it

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was a rest group, we would just all stay together. So it's a

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fireside chat. So does anyone have any questions, anything

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they wanted to bring up at all, or update us, give us like a

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journey share, like kind of like just kind of like verbally

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process what's been going on or, or anything?

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Then I'm not gonna have to pull something out of a hat.

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I was hoping other people are going to come with questions so

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I can listen in because usually people have great questions and

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I learned from them. So I know,

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I know everyone likes everyone likes that likes the fact that

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in fact, the majority of people come on to listen to other

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people's questions.

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I have a question. Okay. Um, this is kind of about rest, but

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it's about prayer. Uh huh. Yeah. You know, when I was a young

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believer, I had all these lists that I would go through and

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pray. And then I did away with the lists. They were, you know,

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I just not like the list of and but then I don't, I mean, I, I

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talked to the Lord, it's like I talked to him all the time. Or,

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you know, he's in my thoughts and all that. And I will

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sometimes pray for people, you know, throughout the day when I

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think of them. But I haven't had a or very often I haven't had a

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time set apart just to pray. Yeah. 15 I don't know, half

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hour, just praying. And, you know, I've been trying to think,

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why do? Why don't I do that? Is it because I didn't feel

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important enough that God would listen to me? Or I got tired of

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the lists? Uh huh. Does Does anybody else have trouble with

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that with the intercessory prayer on behalf of other

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people? I mean, I mean, had trouble with it? Well, either

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don't do it or are inconsistent in doing it.

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Me. So, um, there's some people who just have that we'll call it

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a gift. And I just realized I did not post. And I did not post

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with it. We're having a fireside chat tonight. I got on there to

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do it. And I must have posted something else instead. And so

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no wonder. I mean, everyone already knows when all of these

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things are. So sorry, that's what I'm doing. Let me post

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this really quick. Because I thought the whole thing feel

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weird. And I was like, why did I post maybe some people are like

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waiting for notification or something? Okay, there we go.

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Now I've done my due diligence. Oh, okay. So someone said, Oh,

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okay. Yeah. So Lindsay says she's got a work call. It's

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going late. Um, so anyway, some people have what I kind of like

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refer to as like this gift of intercession. Now I do believe

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We're all supposed to intercede, but there's some people that just kind of

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like the prophetic and everybody's supposed to be able to hear from the

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Lord and, and prophesy and all of that.

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There are specific, um, I always kind of refer to them as like, um, special,

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um, gifts of like concentrated gifts or whatever that God gives to certain

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people that when they exercise it, the rest of us get to learn what it is that

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we have and what we can participate in and et cetera.

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So point is I am not one of those people that has that concentrated gift.

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So, but I am around some people who are, and I'm always amazed

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at their love for interceding.

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So they have this, this strong desire where to them, it's they, I don't know.

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They can just flow in it better than I can.

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So what I just do is I just pray for me personally.

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I just pray for whoever it is that I just feel on my heart.

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And then I just, and I just make it intentional and I make it, um, very

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sincere in other words, I focus on it, you know, again, that intention, as

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opposed to just like throwing up a prayer and just like, oh yeah, Lord.

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And so, and so, and so, and so, and like, just trying to cover people

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because actually what God wants us to do is very intentionally do something

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in the spirit related to that person, present them before the Lord, sometimes

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talk to their spirit, soul, or body or whatever, and, um, uh, and intercede for

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And so anyway, um, I, I just make it intentional and me personally,

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I'm not one for long prayers.

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They're mine are usually pretty short and they, people often refer to, there's

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the saying of, of, um, short prayers are for God and long prayers are for the soul.

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So if someone needs to kind of say a long prayer in order to kind of like talk

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themselves through whatever it is that they're doing and where it is, they're

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trying to intentionally position their spirit or position their prayer.

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Well, then go for it.

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I just like to make it, I just get to a place where I remember who it is that I

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And I always approach my, my prayer life from that place, as opposed to just,

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okay, now I'm going to pray.

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Well, that's what I've been doing my whole life and it was exhausting and, um,

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there weren't always results from it.

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So instead I thought, no, I need to approach everything from being a son of

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I always need to act like that.

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So who does he say that I am?

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And then I shifted to that identity, you know, Christ, I believe I came out of you

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believe I've been returned back into you.

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That kind of thing, reposition myself in that identity.

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So I'm praying from the place of rest.

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I'm praying from within the heart of God so I can feel him.

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I can hear him, you know, and that I'm praying about that person interceding

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for that person, from that position.

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And so that position is basically what I've done is I've made sure that I've

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shifted up here.

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If I was feeling down here, I make sure I intentionally shift up here and pray for

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that person from this place.

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I, and I pray powerfully from that position because I'm a son of God and there and

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everything else therefore is underneath my feet, including any thing that they are

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battling, you know, in their body or in their soul that I'm praying for.

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position, I'm praying higher than the thing that is overpowering them or that

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they're struggling with.

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And then, and so anyway, it's, it's powerful, it's effective.

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intention.

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purposeful, et cetera.

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So the reason I keep talking about like short versus long is, you know, you

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mentioning the fact that it has anybody, uh, I don't remember how you phrased it,

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but basically, you know, do people have a hard time like keeping this up?

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Well, one of the reasons we have a hard time keeping it up is we just, it just,

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it's feels, um, if we, if we disconnect ourselves from it, then we're uninterested.

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If we disconnect ourselves from the situation and we just try to like throw

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up names like Lord for so-and-so and so-and-so, and yeah, Lord, they they're

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dealing with this and they're dealing with that, but we're, we're disassociating

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ourselves from it.

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We're going to dread it.

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Uh, and then also if it's, um, if it, if, if it is like that, if it is very

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disassociative, then a lot of times the prayers are kind of long because we're

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very aware of the fact that we're not extremely interested.

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Um, so if it's short because it's intentional, then you can tell that you

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really have, um, uh, been serious.

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And accomplished what it is that you were trying to accomplish.

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You really did present them before the Lord, et cetera.

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So it also, if we know that what it is that we're praying is powerful

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and effective, that's much more interesting and we're more likely to

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do it as opposed to avoiding it.

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But a lot of times we've been, we're just get weary of praying the same

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prayers for the same people or the same types of prayers for a variety of people.

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And we're just not used to seeing results.

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So we get frustrated of like, so why am I doing this?

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You know, it feels like we're not actually being, um, uh, Oh, what is the word?

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Just effective.

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So we lose interest.

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And so, yeah, it is hard.

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It is hard to keep going through those, that list, this list of names, people

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who are interceders on the other hand, for one thing, they're, they're more

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likely to be intentional because it's on their heart and they take it very,

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very seriously, but then also, um, they, they, because it's on their heart,

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they're more interested in it.

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And so they can take longer and go over more people.

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And I forgot to admit these people.

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Oh, wow.

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We've got, we have Steph on with us tonight or did she jump off?

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Oh, shoot.

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She jumped off.

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Maybe she'll get back on.

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So Steph is from like April, 2020.

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Oh, exciting.

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Anyway.

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Hey, Cicely.

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So anyway, Chris, did that, did that make sense?

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I mean, I know that.

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I mean, I got so tired of the lists.

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Hi Cicely.

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Hi.

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Yeah.

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I got tired of the lists and then trying to think of what to pray for.

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And yeah, the way that you described it really hits a nerve.

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Yeah.

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Describe what part?

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Prayer, you know, that it's short, intentional that you, um, you know, you

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ask, you tell your, ask yourself, who does God say I am?

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And then from that place, you pray.

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And because you're praying much more powerfully as a son of God, who's in

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Christ, while you're talking to God versus you're thinking you're in your

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soul or your body, you're trying to throw prayers up, hoping that they'll

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get high enough that they'll hit the Lord, you know, that it'll work and.

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It'll be effective and he'll hear, and he'll do something about it, you

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know, because maybe it'll matter to him.

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But if you're in his heart, you know, and praying, well then.

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Yeah.

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So then you would know more what to pray too.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Because again, from this position, the only way that we can be up here is if

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we're in rest, meaning like we have released the outcome, like whatever it

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is that God wants to do in the situation he can do, and so we just let him.

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And, um, anyway, so, and then, so from that, now that we have released the,

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well, now we have emotionally released him from the, of the outcome, then we

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can, um, uh, then we can hear God more clearly because we've removed all of

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the white noise from our head zooming.

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But yeah, it's much more effective to pray from that perspective and, and

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also pray for people from the position that we believe that God is good.

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Um, um, and the fact that he is, um, you know, that he's love that he provides,

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that he protects that kind of thing, as opposed to a genie that we're hoping

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we'll have favor with, and that he'll do something that he'll answer prayer, etc.

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It has to be from the perspective that no God is good.

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Now, how he wants to manifest his goodness is up to him.

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Is that to him?

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So we can pray and we can ask the, and we can ask the Lord,

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how do you want me to pray?

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And then, and then we just pray according to that.

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And then he gets to decide how the prayer is answered, how he addresses it.

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What happens?

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Does anything happen?

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You know, that we're, that, that we see, but, um, we, that's another

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powerful position to pray from.

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We're praying then from a position of faith as opposed that God is good.

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And no, we don't know how he's going to manifest that goodness related to

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the prayers that we're, that we're praying, but we have to be in agreement

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first with the fact that he is a good God, that he's loving, he's protector.

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He's everything that he says that he is.

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And then we're praying to that God.

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And from that position of like an expectation that will, of course, God is

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good, so we will wait and expect.

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for the answer to the prayer.

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Doesn't mean an expectation for the answer to the prayer

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that we would prefer, an answer.

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We don't know what it's going to be, but whatever it is,

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we're just asking that God project himself

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into the situation and reveal an aspect of himself.

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And he gets to choose if that means the person is healed,

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or if that means that the person gets the money

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that they need, or if the person gets the,

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whatever it is that we're praying for.

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So, but yeah.

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So is that, does that answer your question?

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Yes, that was very helpful.

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Okay, good, good.

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Yeah, prayers are not perfect, they're a lot more hopeful.

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Yeah, Rita, you always look so comfortable,

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and I'm sitting here in a chair.

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You look so snuggly.

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I know, she always does, she's always wearing a rope.

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And sometimes she'll wrap in a blanket.

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You can tell, we all watch you, Rita,

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like what next, what cozy thing is she going to do next?

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Oh, and there's Steph.

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Steph, can you hear and see us?

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Oh, maybe she's still trying to connect on audio.

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Her internet is very spotty, where she is.

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So she has, she actually designs fabrics

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for various companies, or for a company

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that sells them to places like, I don't know,

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like Ross, Marshalls, I think Hobby Lobby,

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places like that.

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And so anyway, whenever she has these huge files,

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you know, these huge graphic files that she has to upload,

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she'll have to like go off,

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like literally she lives out in West Virginia.

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So she has to go to near, she has to drive

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in her pickup out to like a cell tower,

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and try to upload and download these huge files.

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So we always hope that we get to have Zoom time with her,

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you know, in the evenings,

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because sometimes the internet just does not cooperate.

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So, but Steph, if you're there and you can hear us,

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we love you.

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So does anyone have another question?

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I have a question.

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Yeah.

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So if you're like, I think you've mentioned

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you were being like verbally attacked before,

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and you were able to shift into rest,

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like, yeah, how do you do that?

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How do I do that?

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Yeah, I mean, if somebody is like being defiant

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and they're an adult and you, yeah, I don't know.

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I'm going through that right now.

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So I'm just like trying to get rid of this anxiety

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inside of me, so.

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Yeah, well, so there's some things

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that I've already mentioned.

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So before I go through those

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and trying to think if there's another way

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that maybe I could phrase it,

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that could add to the support, what I'll be saying.

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Well, for me, the first thing that I had to do

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was I had to choose that they were who God says

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that they are first,

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not that they were the person

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that they were presenting themselves to be.

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And we'll talk about this more in session.

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I don't know, it's like 10 or 11.

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I don't remember which one it is.

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They just talked about governing creation

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through relationships.

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We'll talk more about that.

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I won't go into more detail about the situation,

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but basically the idea that I had to see them

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as God saw them because this person wasn't even a believer.

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So it's not even like I could see them as,

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oh, well, they're a son of God and they're whatever.

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I just like, they were not a non-believer,

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but still God created them as spirit,

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not as soul and as body.

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He created them as good

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and they were just believing lies about him.

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And so I could have compassion for them and all of that.

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And them being verbally abusive

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is them putting on display their internal torment.

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It doesn't have anything to do with us.

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We're just hitting a nerve because of the torment

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that they're having to live with inside.

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And so that's another thing that I would just

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always remember is that it wasn't saying anything about me

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and that it was about them

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and that they were not what they were projecting,

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that they were actually spirit,

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they were not body and soul.

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And so I did that.

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And so I just chose to see them as God would see them.

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And then, and another thing that I would do

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is I would choose that again,

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I am a non-believer.

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Um, I'm not threatened that God will take care of me.

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God will protect me.

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This, by the way, was before I learned about rest.

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And I learned about this whole spirit, soul body thing.

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All I knew was, okay, God, I know that you had to have made that.

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This is not how you originally made this person.

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This is not what you intended for them.

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And so therefore I'm going to see them as you see them.

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You thought they were worth dying for.

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So you did die for them.

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So, you know, who am I to say any difference?

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So Lord, um, and I also believe Lord that you can protect me.

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I don't have to protect myself.

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You will do that for me.

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If you put me in this situation with this person, then you will bear, you will hold

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yourself accountable for the consequences.

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You will help take care of the consequences.

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So to speak to, to my feelings, to my reputation, um, to physically or

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socially, what could happen as a result.

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Um, and, um, so, uh, sorry, the security walks by periodically and checks on the

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door and so they wave at me.

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Um, and, uh, anyway, so I would do that.

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Uh, and what else did I do?

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I, I decided that I had more than they did because I had some things in the Lord

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that they didn't, meaning like I would, I had believed and chosen that I am who

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God says that I am.

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They weren't, but I was believing that.

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So I have, I have everything.

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They're the ones in lack, but they, you know, they believe that they are.

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So if I'm not, then I don't have any reason to feel threatened.

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So I would just completely rest in the Lord.

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And it was hard because I'm having to trust that he's going to, that he's going

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to take care of me, that he's going to provide for me, he's going to protect me.

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And I don't get to choose what that looks like.

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So for a while, sure.

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I bore some horrible, uh, results or consequences or outcomes of

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the way that they treated me.

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It, it completely demoralized, um, the, the group and they didn't, uh, they,

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they came to greatly disrespect me.

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Everybody liked me, but they really strongly disrespected me and, um,

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wouldn't, uh, wouldn't follow my instructions, wouldn't follow my, I

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don't know, my, I don't know that my, well, I don't know my instructions.

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And so I finally had to, I did have to have a come to Jesus meeting at one time.

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And, um, in fact, it kind of, uh, how do you put it?

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Like, let, uh, let's just say that the, um, that everyone knew about it pretty

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fast, everyone who wasn't in that meeting heard about the come to Jesus

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meeting that actually had it with everybody, but that, that was,

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that was a different matter.

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That was, I think after, I think it was after that situation had

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calmed down with this one guy.

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Or maybe not, maybe it was in the middle of it, but I was within my

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rights to do what I did.

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And so I just, I just did it.

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But the thing was that I was struggling with my reputation because of, and

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they weren't following my orders because the guy had just ruined

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my, and their respect for me.

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So I did have to bear the consequences of it.

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I was having a hard time getting things done and I was responsible

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for them not getting done.

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I was the one whose, whose head was on the chopping block.

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And so, but I continued to do what it was that I felt that God was calling

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me to do, which was, and I chose him over the project, I chose the man and

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his, um, and just, and just honoring him and treating him the way that I

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believe that God wanted me to.

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And I chose that over the project.

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So in fact, I, and then I not only did that with him, but I did that with

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the other people as well, who were having a difficult time, um, uh, respecting me.

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I chose them over the project as well.

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And eventually they came to realize it.

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So part of the thing about being a parent, and the reason I say parent is because

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that type of the situation helps us understand and picture, um, what it is.

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I'm talking about is you're having to make sacrificial decisions for these

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for these other little beings that don't, um, that don't value your sacrifice and

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don't want what it is that you are trying to provide for them, you know,

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they're wanting something different.

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And so they you're, so as parents, we're used to being in situations

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where we can handle the fact that they just don't understand like,

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well, they just understand.

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We have to understand that other human be other full grown

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adults do the same thing to us.

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They don't understand what it is that we're doing and, um, how, uh, so, but

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we are still called to do it anyway.

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Is that help?

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Is that helpful?

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Oh, sorry.

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You're muted.

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Yes.

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No, I needed the reminder that they are who God says that they are.

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And yeah, I needed all of it.

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So thank you.

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Yeah.

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And, um, and if.

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you do what it is that I explained.

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If you remember who it is that you are, then you now have what it is that they

468
00:30:06.520 --> 00:30:11.120
need. And so once you're in that more powerful position, not only you're,

469
00:30:11.120 --> 00:30:14.560
you not threatened. So it's not like you've just shifted into neutral. No,

470
00:30:14.560 --> 00:30:18.640
you're now you're now in the positive where you can actually pour into them

471
00:30:18.680 --> 00:30:23.320
and help be God's instrument to heal them in the very area of

472
00:30:23.320 --> 00:30:26.360
wounding out of which the attacks were all coming.

473
00:30:27.600 --> 00:30:29.120
So that can happen as well.

474
00:30:31.000 --> 00:30:34.920
Thank you. Yeah, you're welcome. Hey, Steph,

475
00:30:38.240 --> 00:30:41.200
how are you now? I'm good.

476
00:30:41.840 --> 00:30:45.800
Oh, you're here. Yay. No dogs barking for a moment.

477
00:30:46.600 --> 00:30:49.680
I know. I know that'll happen.

478
00:30:52.200 --> 00:30:56.800
That's true. Cause you're on, are you central time? Right? We're Eastern.

479
00:30:57.320 --> 00:31:01.360
Oh, you are Eastern. So it's like nine 30 your time. Yeah. Yeah.

480
00:31:01.360 --> 00:31:04.160
We just got home from 4-H and my phone went off. It's like, Hey,

481
00:31:04.160 --> 00:31:05.320
I can finally catch a meeting.

482
00:31:05.960 --> 00:31:10.840
Yay. Well, good. Yeah. Y'all have later nights now with them being, uh,

483
00:31:10.880 --> 00:31:15.480
with, uh, uh, with your daughter you're in, um, in 4-H. So yeah,

484
00:31:15.480 --> 00:31:16.320
that would make sense.

485
00:31:16.680 --> 00:31:20.520
Two of them now. So we've got two now. Yes.

486
00:31:20.880 --> 00:31:23.760
So we'll have cattle and goats that I will officially be crazy.

487
00:31:24.320 --> 00:31:27.280
That's so fun. Y'all are really sweet.

488
00:31:27.680 --> 00:31:31.560
Always given your girls a chance to spread their wings and figure out what it is

489
00:31:31.560 --> 00:31:34.320
they want to do and help them accommodate it. I think that's great.

490
00:31:35.080 --> 00:31:37.320
Try. Yeah. Y'all are a fun family.

491
00:31:38.720 --> 00:31:40.680
Well, this is, you caught us on the last night.

492
00:31:40.680 --> 00:31:43.920
This is our last night of the rest intensive. We've had,

493
00:31:44.280 --> 00:31:47.640
I think we've met let's see nine. Well,

494
00:31:47.640 --> 00:31:51.120
if you include the fireside chats and the rest groups, I think we've met,

495
00:31:51.240 --> 00:31:55.960
this is our 16th time. I think 15th or 16th that we've all met together.

496
00:31:55.960 --> 00:31:57.520
So anyway, you, you caught us.

497
00:31:59.400 --> 00:32:00.240
Yay.

498
00:32:01.360 --> 00:32:05.360
So Steph was our most faithful attender for like,

499
00:32:06.440 --> 00:32:09.640
was it, it was a year. I don't know why I keep thinking it's a year and a half,

500
00:32:09.640 --> 00:32:12.680
but it was a year. We did basically every single week for a year.

501
00:32:13.440 --> 00:32:16.400
I think we did like 43 weeks or something like that.

502
00:32:16.400 --> 00:32:18.760
So we didn't do holidays and whatever, but

503
00:32:19.200 --> 00:32:23.040
so does anyone have any other

504
00:32:23.800 --> 00:32:27.240
questions or like I said,

505
00:32:27.240 --> 00:32:32.080
anything that they wanted to share about how their journey's going that maybe

506
00:32:32.640 --> 00:32:37.720
needed some kind of like insight into or, or help with or anything.

507
00:32:41.000 --> 00:32:42.040
Yeah, go ahead, Casey.

508
00:32:43.560 --> 00:32:47.760
So this kind of came up just because you were talking about parenting and

509
00:32:49.080 --> 00:32:54.080
I mean, you might, I think the answer will be similar to Rita's question.

510
00:32:55.040 --> 00:32:56.600
The answer to Rita's question.

511
00:32:57.960 --> 00:33:02.560
But something with my oldest is I've noticed he's always my oldest son.

512
00:33:02.880 --> 00:33:06.080
He it's like, he has a,

513
00:33:07.440 --> 00:33:12.680
I feel like he feels like we love our middle son more. I could be wrong,

514
00:33:12.720 --> 00:33:16.840
but that's what I feel it is. And he just always is just all over him.

515
00:33:16.840 --> 00:33:21.280
And I know a lot of it is probably just brothers and siblings.

516
00:33:21.800 --> 00:33:23.600
And, but I'm,

517
00:33:23.760 --> 00:33:26.800
I'm trying to figure out how I can come at it. So it,

518
00:33:26.800 --> 00:33:29.240
so he doesn't feel like he needs to compete.

519
00:33:31.800 --> 00:33:33.840
I don't know if you have any insight into that.

520
00:33:35.440 --> 00:33:38.840
Well, I can tell you some fascinating things. I'm the oldest.

521
00:33:39.280 --> 00:33:43.080
I can tell you that that's a legitimate feeling. And I'll tell you why,

522
00:33:43.080 --> 00:33:44.720
because from a parent's perspective, like, well,

523
00:33:44.720 --> 00:33:48.520
we're giving attention to all of them equally. And part of it can just is,

524
00:33:49.600 --> 00:33:52.840
but part of it is just different interactions with different children,

525
00:33:52.840 --> 00:33:56.600
based on their personality, like how easily they respond to discipline,

526
00:33:56.600 --> 00:33:57.440
for instance,

527
00:33:57.480 --> 00:34:02.000
means that you're going to focus more on some children than others because

528
00:34:02.000 --> 00:34:04.880
they're demanding all of the attention because they're not,

529
00:34:04.920 --> 00:34:08.679
they're not falling in line or whatever. So there can be that, but you know,

530
00:34:08.960 --> 00:34:10.719
that kind of thing aside.

531
00:34:11.120 --> 00:34:16.040
And one of the reasons why older children can feel that way is if they feel

532
00:34:16.080 --> 00:34:16.920
that

533
00:34:18.960 --> 00:34:23.199
now, if, if they have a lot of expectations on them,

534
00:34:23.560 --> 00:34:27.000
while say for instance, the middle child, which is very fascinating,

535
00:34:27.159 --> 00:34:29.719
because usually the middle child feels like unseen.

536
00:34:30.040 --> 00:34:33.679
And my sister was the same way she's middle and she feels it felt very much

537
00:34:33.679 --> 00:34:35.679
unseen. And so we all,

538
00:34:35.719 --> 00:34:38.480
me and my brother and sister all kind of like fell in line with that,

539
00:34:38.480 --> 00:34:42.120
with the kind of like the normal this normal, like feelings of, well,

540
00:34:42.120 --> 00:34:44.880
the oldest usually feels this way. And the middle usually feels that way.

541
00:34:44.880 --> 00:34:47.760
And the youngest usually feels that way. We all fell in line with that.

542
00:34:47.760 --> 00:34:51.719
But anyway, so, um, so some, usually the middle child can feel, um,

543
00:34:51.760 --> 00:34:55.000
can feel invisible. But, um,

544
00:34:55.040 --> 00:34:58.880
the thing is that a lot of times the oldest does resent the middle.

545
00:34:59.040 --> 00:35:00.000
They all resent the baby.

546
00:35:00.000 --> 00:35:00.960
And that's just the way that it is.

547
00:35:01.320 --> 00:35:04.160
But the, the, the oldest can resent the middle.

548
00:35:04.200 --> 00:35:08.440
If the oldest has a lot of expectations on them strictly because they're the

549
00:35:08.440 --> 00:35:11.400
first ones to do something and the parents have never done that before.

550
00:35:11.800 --> 00:35:16.480
They've never had to parent into that new age, into those new experiences,

551
00:35:16.480 --> 00:35:21.000
into driving into, you know, them being the first to drive the first to go to

552
00:35:21.000 --> 00:35:27.000
school, the first to, I don't know, get an award, the first to not be picked

553
00:35:27.000 --> 00:35:29.320
for the soccer team, the first to whatever.

554
00:35:29.680 --> 00:35:32.600
And so there's a lot of firsts and they can feel a lot of pressure.

555
00:35:32.600 --> 00:35:36.040
And so subconsciously it can sometimes end up on the oldest child.

556
00:35:36.360 --> 00:35:39.320
And then if the oldest child is looking at the middle child and they're

557
00:35:39.320 --> 00:35:43.760
realize, and they see that, that what they don't see is that the parents

558
00:35:43.760 --> 00:35:45.360
are like, Hey, well, we've done this before.

559
00:35:46.160 --> 00:35:49.440
And so it's a little easier by the time the middle child comes along and

560
00:35:49.440 --> 00:35:51.600
I'm just painting broad brushstrokes.

561
00:35:51.600 --> 00:35:53.440
I have no idea what y'all's situation is.

562
00:35:53.440 --> 00:35:55.080
I'm just talking very general terms.

563
00:35:55.480 --> 00:36:00.400
And then the middle child, a lot of times can, can, uh, the, the, it can look to

564
00:36:00.400 --> 00:36:05.440
the oldest, like the middle child is just that it's easier on him and it's

565
00:36:05.440 --> 00:36:07.680
because the parents have done it before.

566
00:36:08.240 --> 00:36:13.800
So it's, so there's less, there's less trial and error with my parent.

567
00:36:13.800 --> 00:36:16.280
I would joke with my parents that I felt like the Guinea pig.

568
00:36:16.680 --> 00:36:17.640
I was like, well, let's try it.

569
00:36:17.640 --> 00:36:20.160
And then I would joke with my brother and sister that, Hey, you know, well,

570
00:36:20.160 --> 00:36:22.480
they tried it on Ashley and discovered it didn't work.

571
00:36:22.480 --> 00:36:24.160
So like, okay, well, we're not going to do that.

572
00:36:25.520 --> 00:36:29.760
And so it's the oldest you're going, wait, just so anyway,

573
00:36:29.960 --> 00:36:32.680
maybe that could be, uh, what it is.

574
00:36:32.720 --> 00:36:37.560
And so also though, with the expectations, sometimes subconsciously

575
00:36:37.560 --> 00:36:42.080
that the, that the oldest can get a lot of attention of like making sure

576
00:36:42.080 --> 00:36:46.400
they do it right, or, Hey, you want to be careful about usually oldest children

577
00:36:46.400 --> 00:36:49.040
are extremely cautious and risk averse.

578
00:36:49.480 --> 00:36:54.400
The middle child feels a little freer because, you know, the, the, the

579
00:36:54.400 --> 00:36:57.280
parents are also real, uh, have done it.

580
00:36:57.280 --> 00:36:58.760
Like I said, they've done it before.

581
00:36:59.160 --> 00:37:04.880
And, um, they, they realize that they can kind of like, um, loosen up a bit,

582
00:37:05.360 --> 00:37:08.040
you know, that, oh, well, you know, we've already been through this,

583
00:37:08.040 --> 00:37:09.200
you know, this is all okay.

584
00:37:09.520 --> 00:37:14.480
And so sometimes the middle child literally receives affirmation

585
00:37:14.480 --> 00:37:16.440
or verbal praise more often.

586
00:37:17.320 --> 00:37:21.360
And partly that's because it's a ratio difference.

587
00:37:21.680 --> 00:37:27.360
Like you can correct and affirm the oldest and correct and affirm the middle,

588
00:37:27.720 --> 00:37:32.280
but because it's the oldest and the he's always moving into new territory.

589
00:37:32.280 --> 00:37:36.400
And you've never done that before as a parent or whatever, then often the

590
00:37:36.400 --> 00:37:41.920
ratio is higher on the correction side and lower on the affirmation because

591
00:37:41.920 --> 00:37:43.400
it's like, well, we got to be careful.

592
00:37:43.440 --> 00:37:46.480
And what if, and Hey, we want to make sure you do it right.

593
00:37:46.480 --> 00:37:48.360
And we want to show you how to do it, et cetera.

594
00:37:48.360 --> 00:37:53.360
It can come across as, as like correcting while he watches the middle one, you

595
00:37:53.360 --> 00:37:57.000
know, not have as much correction and have a lot more affirmation.

596
00:37:57.040 --> 00:38:03.640
So even though both are getting both to him, he hears correction and he sees

597
00:38:03.640 --> 00:38:07.840
the middle child is being praised when really they're both getting both.

598
00:38:08.080 --> 00:38:14.400
But the ratio is different because one's the oldest and one

599
00:38:14.440 --> 00:38:15.880
just happens to come after.

600
00:38:15.880 --> 00:38:20.600
And so anyway, so I, I have no idea how it is that y'all parent, I have no

601
00:38:20.600 --> 00:38:22.920
idea what the boy's experiences are.

602
00:38:22.920 --> 00:38:26.200
I'm just telling you, those are some things that do come to mind of how things

603
00:38:26.200 --> 00:38:29.680
play out, where the parents are like, think that they're treating them both

604
00:38:29.680 --> 00:38:35.320
the same, but how a child's perspective can look different.

605
00:38:35.840 --> 00:38:39.080
Like I said, based simply based off of kind of like the ratio of the amount of,

606
00:38:39.320 --> 00:38:43.200
of, um, of like, uh, I don't want to say correction.

607
00:38:43.200 --> 00:38:44.800
Cause it's more, it's a different thing.

608
00:38:44.800 --> 00:38:45.200
Correction.

609
00:38:45.200 --> 00:38:45.360
Sure.

610
00:38:45.360 --> 00:38:49.120
There's correction, but there's also like instruction guidance.

611
00:38:49.480 --> 00:38:52.760
Um, make sure you do it this way or, you know, teaching.

612
00:38:53.280 --> 00:38:57.280
And then the middle child, a lot of times just learns from the older one and doesn't

613
00:38:57.280 --> 00:38:59.120
have to be taught as much by the parents.

614
00:38:59.320 --> 00:39:04.680
So again, the interaction is often higher on the praise side, especially

615
00:39:04.680 --> 00:39:06.960
once the parents have learned the importance of praise from the older

616
00:39:06.960 --> 00:39:08.440
women than they do that more.

617
00:39:08.640 --> 00:39:12.000
Cause a lot of what they had to teach the older, the second

618
00:39:12.000 --> 00:39:13.320
one is learning by osmosis.

619
00:39:14.040 --> 00:39:16.840
So again, ratio wise there it's higher.

620
00:39:17.640 --> 00:39:19.000
Is that helpful at all?

621
00:39:19.200 --> 00:39:19.520
Yes.

622
00:39:19.520 --> 00:39:24.360
It's very helpful that, that, so in that sense, I think that's like exactly

623
00:39:24.360 --> 00:39:26.040
you said it exactly, I think as it is.

624
00:39:26.360 --> 00:39:33.560
So how would you recommend like, like with my oldest son, and I know it's

625
00:39:33.560 --> 00:39:35.440
probably a hard question to answer because you don't know what our

626
00:39:35.440 --> 00:39:40.600
interactions are like, but, um, like building him up, how can I build him up?

627
00:39:40.600 --> 00:39:41.680
So he knows.

628
00:39:42.360 --> 00:39:45.880
Like he doesn't have to worry about that without just telling him you don't

629
00:39:45.880 --> 00:39:47.560
have to worry about my love, you know?

630
00:39:47.600 --> 00:39:47.960
Yeah.

631
00:39:48.320 --> 00:39:48.520
Yeah.

632
00:39:48.520 --> 00:39:48.920
Correct.

633
00:39:49.160 --> 00:39:54.520
Um, what, well, what I always recommend is to, is that whenever we want

634
00:39:54.520 --> 00:39:59.960
something for someone else, we have to do that thing first, so we have to see.

635
00:40:00.000 --> 00:40:03.680
them like that first. I know that sounds weird because it's like, well, I already do see them

636
00:40:03.680 --> 00:40:10.640
like that, but there's, it's in a different way. First of all, we can't give something to our child

637
00:40:10.640 --> 00:40:15.440
that we haven't given to ourselves first because we don't have it to give. So if we don't see

638
00:40:15.440 --> 00:40:20.240
ourselves like this, we can't see our kids like this either. I know that sounds opposite. I know

639
00:40:20.240 --> 00:40:24.960
it's like, oh no, I think a lot higher of my kids than I do with me. You know, my kids are great and

640
00:40:24.960 --> 00:40:30.720
I see all my problems, but we can't, but what they, what kids get communicated to them is what

641
00:40:30.720 --> 00:40:36.160
we believe are about ourselves. So what we have to do is if we want our children to believe something

642
00:40:36.160 --> 00:40:40.960
different, we have to believe it first. And then we're, and then we speak to them and interact

643
00:40:40.960 --> 00:40:47.520
with them from this place. And then we, um, and instead of to the soul or to the body,

644
00:40:47.520 --> 00:40:52.960
we're speaking to their spirit, we're interacting with them as God created them to be kind of thing.

645
00:40:52.960 --> 00:40:59.920
And they will, and they will understand and get that they are, you know, loved and whatever,

646
00:40:59.920 --> 00:41:06.640
because it's coming from a genuine place of, we are being, we are operating out of our spiritual

647
00:41:06.640 --> 00:41:12.320
being towards them, seeing them because we now see ourselves as Christ sees us. We are in Christ.

648
00:41:12.320 --> 00:41:17.200
We're operating from that place of rest, from that place of abiding in him, from that place of God's

649
00:41:17.280 --> 00:41:22.880
character, which is our character. And that is what is parenting the child. And so the child

650
00:41:22.880 --> 00:41:27.200
will receive that because what he's hearing is he's another soul. That's hearing a son of God

651
00:41:27.200 --> 00:41:31.920
speaking or another spirit. That's hearing a son of God speaking, and he's created to respond to

652
00:41:31.920 --> 00:41:39.760
that. So, and then he'll rise to whatever it is that is, um, he is being talked to. So if we are

653
00:41:39.760 --> 00:41:45.360
in our spirit, talking, seeing someone else in their spirit, and that's how we're interacting

654
00:41:45.360 --> 00:41:50.960
with them, it's like, they kind of hear this other aspect of themselves that's being addressed.

655
00:41:50.960 --> 00:41:56.800
And then they start to rise to that position. So kids typically rise to what people do,

656
00:41:56.800 --> 00:42:03.040
but talk about kids. And I used to teach. Um, so I used to do this on my students. It was actually

657
00:42:03.040 --> 00:42:08.240
some of the first ways that God taught me how to do this with people was doing it with children.

658
00:42:08.240 --> 00:42:12.880
And so I would just treat them a particular way because I had to see them like that.

659
00:42:12.880 --> 00:42:16.880
I had to see myself like that. And then I had to see them like that. And then I interacted with

660
00:42:16.880 --> 00:42:22.640
them like that. I didn't see them as rebellious as now the, as talking back as, as whatever I

661
00:42:22.640 --> 00:42:28.240
had to see them like this and interact with them like this. And that made all of the difference

662
00:42:28.240 --> 00:42:33.120
because it's genuine. So in other words, point is it's not a formula of we'll say, well, these types

663
00:42:33.120 --> 00:42:38.960
of things, et cetera, you can, you can be like, oh, we'll be more conscious of trying to be more

664
00:42:38.960 --> 00:42:46.320
affirming, meaning like you say certain thing. And instead of, um, oh, how would I, how to put

665
00:42:46.320 --> 00:42:55.600
that, um, of all of speaking to, to their, um, wow, I haven't taught, I haven't talked about this

666
00:42:55.600 --> 00:43:02.720
in so long. It's been a while since I've tried to articulate it. You're speaking to the, who it is

667
00:43:02.720 --> 00:43:11.280
that they are, their, their goodness, their, their love that as if instead of what it is that

668
00:43:11.280 --> 00:43:18.960
they need to change. If you talk and focus more on, on, um, the aspects of who it is that they

669
00:43:18.960 --> 00:43:24.080
are, whether or not they're showing it, if you speak more to those things, meaning like that,

670
00:43:24.080 --> 00:43:28.640
you are recognizing them, acknowledging them, affirming them, interacting with that part of

671
00:43:28.640 --> 00:43:34.160
them, then they're more likely to start acting like that because it is them. So you're not trying

672
00:43:34.160 --> 00:43:39.040
to get them to become something. They're not, you're just trying to get, you're just trying to

673
00:43:39.040 --> 00:43:44.960
help them recognize that this is who they are and not this, because if you talk to this, they start

674
00:43:44.960 --> 00:43:51.280
rising to that and start acting more like that. Does that make sense? I normally, huh? It makes

675
00:43:51.280 --> 00:43:57.680
a lot of sense. Okay, good. Cause I do talk more about it in, in the session 11 or something like

676
00:43:57.680 --> 00:44:05.760
that. So, but yeah, um, anyway, man, I'm very rusty on articulating all of that. I'm like,

677
00:44:07.360 --> 00:44:14.480
how do I say that? You said that it brought to mind that as I've been shifting into rest, I've

678
00:44:14.480 --> 00:44:20.880
actually been doing that more. Yes. I'm automatically seeing him as different and I,

679
00:44:20.880 --> 00:44:26.640
and I act differently towards him. Correct. Because we're all essentially a reflection

680
00:44:26.640 --> 00:44:34.400
of our parents' perspectives of life. However it is that they viewed life to be as how they

681
00:44:34.400 --> 00:44:39.760
parented. So because parents are loving, I mean, every now and then you've got somebody who's got

682
00:44:39.760 --> 00:44:45.760
issues, but most of all, I mean, most, mostly parents are wanting the best for their child,

683
00:44:45.760 --> 00:44:51.280
even if they're controlling, because they're doing it from a place where they believe that that's

684
00:44:51.280 --> 00:44:59.680
right. And that's best, et cetera. Now they're, they're deceived, but they're trying to.

685
00:45:00.000 --> 00:45:03.680
protect the child from having to live the experience that they lived.

686
00:45:03.960 --> 00:45:07.320
So they're trying to control their environment in order to ensure that they

687
00:45:07.520 --> 00:45:10.400
can help the child execute it.

688
00:45:10.600 --> 00:45:14.040
But but it can really mess up a child.

689
00:45:14.240 --> 00:45:16.880
But anyway, yeah, yeah.

690
00:45:17.080 --> 00:45:18.240
So

691
00:45:18.440 --> 00:45:19.920
isn't it simple? You're welcome.

692
00:45:20.120 --> 00:45:25.120
I have not talked about all of that in a dog's age.

693
00:45:27.080 --> 00:45:28.560
So

694
00:45:28.880 --> 00:45:30.760
does anyone have something else?

695
00:45:30.960 --> 00:45:34.120
Did you have something, Cicely? Yeah, I do.

696
00:45:34.320 --> 00:45:36.280
Sorry, I look weird. I'm laying down.

697
00:45:36.480 --> 00:45:37.920
You're fine.

698
00:45:38.120 --> 00:45:42.880
I'm going to jump on my Facebook because I can't remember the question.

699
00:45:43.920 --> 00:45:46.200
Can you still hear me if I do that?

700
00:45:46.400 --> 00:45:47.960
Yeah. OK.

701
00:45:48.160 --> 00:45:50.520
Yeah, I can tell you.

702
00:45:50.720 --> 00:45:53.280
So my question is, do you have to fully

703
00:45:53.280 --> 00:45:59.840
believe God in certain areas of your life for him to fully bless us in that area?

704
00:46:00.040 --> 00:46:03.840
Like, can he or will he bless us beyond our belief?

705
00:46:04.040 --> 00:46:05.000
Does that make sense?

706
00:46:05.200 --> 00:46:07.680
So what do you mean, bless, bless us?

707
00:46:07.880 --> 00:46:10.200
Well, I don't know.

708
00:46:14.200 --> 00:46:18.880
Oh, I'm trying to think how to maybe bless the best word.

709
00:46:23.320 --> 00:46:28.240
I guess, like, I don't know, like if asking for, like, a certain thing,

710
00:46:28.440 --> 00:46:35.120
like good relationships or like, I don't know, like

711
00:46:35.320 --> 00:46:40.000
a place we'd like to live or, you know, just things like that in life,

712
00:46:40.200 --> 00:46:47.560
like just, you know, our prayers, it's like, can he bless us, like, beyond

713
00:46:47.760 --> 00:46:50.360
our belief? I don't, does that make sense?

714
00:46:50.640 --> 00:46:51.800
I think so.

715
00:46:52.000 --> 00:46:54.880
So, yes, he absolutely can.

716
00:46:55.080 --> 00:47:01.560
Well, because, I mean, he's a good God and he gives us he gives us things in abundance.

717
00:47:01.760 --> 00:47:04.520
But as far as like our belief,

718
00:47:04.720 --> 00:47:09.480
you know, that what it is that we're called to believe in is not that he's going

719
00:47:09.680 --> 00:47:14.520
to do something like, oh, well, I believed for X house.

720
00:47:14.720 --> 00:47:16.560
Am I only going to get X house?

721
00:47:16.560 --> 00:47:21.000
Or if I'm praying for X, will I be able to get X, Y and Z house?

722
00:47:21.200 --> 00:47:23.200
You know, like, would God do that?

723
00:47:23.400 --> 00:47:26.600
Well, yes, but we're not supposed to be believing for X house.

724
00:47:26.800 --> 00:47:30.040
We're supposed to be believing that God is who he says that he is,

725
00:47:30.240 --> 00:47:33.080
even if he doesn't give us a house at all.

726
00:47:33.280 --> 00:47:36.800
So it's letting go of the house and choosing him.

727
00:47:37.000 --> 00:47:42.560
Then in choosing that God's already given us everything, meaning that he's given us

728
00:47:43.280 --> 00:47:46.640
and choosing that God's already given us everything, meaning.

729
00:47:46.640 --> 00:47:48.400
And it doesn't mean that he's given us houses.

730
00:47:48.400 --> 00:47:49.640
It doesn't mean he's given us whatever.

731
00:47:49.840 --> 00:47:56.200
It means that he's already given us like love and and rest and peace and joy

732
00:47:56.400 --> 00:48:00.640
and patience and protection and provision and all of those things.

733
00:48:00.840 --> 00:48:02.640
And then

734
00:48:02.840 --> 00:48:05.640
and then and that's what it is that we choose.

735
00:48:05.640 --> 00:48:07.680
We choose that he is that we ask that he

736
00:48:07.680 --> 00:48:12.520
manifest that into our life, but he gets to choose how we manifest that.

737
00:48:12.720 --> 00:48:14.160
What kind of a house do we have?

738
00:48:14.360 --> 00:48:15.480
Do we have a house?

739
00:48:15.680 --> 00:48:17.160
You know, do we get married?

740
00:48:17.360 --> 00:48:18.160
Do not get married.

741
00:48:18.360 --> 00:48:23.400
Do we do we whatever those aren't blessings, so to speak.

742
00:48:23.600 --> 00:48:26.880
Those were blessings into the old covenant, the new covenant.

743
00:48:27.080 --> 00:48:28.080
We have everything.

744
00:48:28.280 --> 00:48:30.800
And then we were we with the Lord

745
00:48:31.000 --> 00:48:35.760
manifest who it is that we are in the spirit, into the physical realm in various

746
00:48:35.800 --> 00:48:40.480
ways, and sometimes, you know, us, the Lord, you know, we manifest that as a house

747
00:48:40.680 --> 00:48:46.000
or as relationships or whatever, but we have to release all of those things

748
00:48:46.200 --> 00:48:51.520
in order to in release of our having them and release God from being obligated to

749
00:48:51.720 --> 00:48:55.440
give them to us, release the him from release them from being emotionally

750
00:48:55.640 --> 00:49:00.640
accountable to us, like emotionally, emotionally stop holding him accountable.

751
00:49:00.840 --> 00:49:02.240
That's what I'm trying to say.

752
00:49:02.400 --> 00:49:06.200
Stop holding him accountable in our in and with our emotions

753
00:49:06.400 --> 00:49:11.000
to giving us particular things, and it's releasing it completely.

754
00:49:11.200 --> 00:49:16.000
Otherwise, the whole otherwise it's OK, God, I want this.

755
00:49:16.200 --> 00:49:20.000
What do you need to what do I need to do or what do I need to believe in order

756
00:49:20.200 --> 00:49:23.000
to give me this? That's the old covenant.

757
00:49:23.200 --> 00:49:27.760
That's driving that sweat, that's I have to do something in order to get.

758
00:49:27.960 --> 00:49:30.840
And the new covenant is we already have everything.

759
00:49:30.840 --> 00:49:35.960
So now that we have everything, Lord, how, you know, I therefore, Lord,

760
00:49:36.160 --> 00:49:39.720
I don't need anything. So now, Lord, I'm in this position

761
00:49:39.920 --> 00:49:42.240
where I actually bring things to the earth.

762
00:49:42.440 --> 00:49:44.160
The earth doesn't give something to me.

763
00:49:44.360 --> 00:49:45.920
I give something to the earth.

764
00:49:46.120 --> 00:49:51.480
So, Lord, in giving stuff to the earth and being you and I onto the earth, what

765
00:49:51.680 --> 00:49:54.600
what are some of the ways that we want to bring heaven into earth?

766
00:49:54.800 --> 00:49:57.280
And what are some of the means of what

767
00:49:57.280 --> 00:49:59.680
aspects of creation do we want to be part of the process?

768
00:50:00.000 --> 00:50:05.760
or, you know, particular dwelling or particular people that were in

769
00:50:05.760 --> 00:50:08.280
relationship with, or, you know, whatever.

770
00:50:08.800 --> 00:50:11.880
Um, so it was that, is that making sense so far?

771
00:50:13.800 --> 00:50:14.160
Yeah.

772
00:50:14.160 --> 00:50:18.160
So is it a thing where we don't like pray for specific things then?

773
00:50:18.200 --> 00:50:18.480
Like,

774
00:50:19.400 --> 00:50:21.400
no, we do.

775
00:50:21.760 --> 00:50:22.520
We do.

776
00:50:22.560 --> 00:50:29.480
Um, but we pray from the perspective that not that we are, are that God's not from

777
00:50:29.480 --> 00:50:32.560
the position that God, you haven't given this thing to me.

778
00:50:32.560 --> 00:50:34.760
I don't know why you haven't given this thing to me.

779
00:50:35.200 --> 00:50:40.280
Um, uh, I don't know any other accusations that we can have against him.

780
00:50:40.280 --> 00:50:41.760
In other words, that we're in lack.

781
00:50:42.800 --> 00:50:46.800
And then it's like, okay, God, now that I'm, now that we've established the fact

782
00:50:46.800 --> 00:50:51.840
that, uh, that I'm in lack and I don't have, and you haven't done X, Y, and Z.

783
00:50:52.560 --> 00:50:57.040
Now I'm asking you to do, I'm asking you to give, I'm asking you to transact.

784
00:50:57.440 --> 00:51:02.440
So it's starting from this person, from this position that God is not who he says

785
00:51:02.440 --> 00:51:10.360
that he is, and we're asking him to manifest, to, to manifest, to manifest

786
00:51:10.360 --> 00:51:13.600
who we want him to be into the earth.

787
00:51:14.720 --> 00:51:17.640
By first declaring to him that he's not who he says that he is.

788
00:51:17.680 --> 00:51:20.080
And then we want him to be who we want him to be.

789
00:51:20.640 --> 00:51:25.400
We have declared that we want him to be as opposed to releasing the manifestation

790
00:51:25.400 --> 00:51:27.440
like God, who do you say that you are?

791
00:51:27.680 --> 00:51:29.160
And I ask that you reveal that.

792
00:51:30.160 --> 00:51:34.200
And then from that, you know, from the father's heart, then you, then the two

793
00:51:34.200 --> 00:51:39.200
of you, once you've given it all up, then, you know, you're now in a position

794
00:51:39.200 --> 00:51:43.600
where, um, where God's like, okay, now I can entrust you with it because you

795
00:51:43.600 --> 00:51:46.320
no longer hold me accountable to you for it.

796
00:51:46.520 --> 00:51:51.680
You no longer change what you believe about me relative to how I, how I.

797
00:51:52.680 --> 00:51:54.320
Relative to how your life looks on earth.

798
00:51:54.920 --> 00:51:59.120
Case in point, you remember Jesus, it says that he gave up his right to be

799
00:51:59.120 --> 00:52:03.440
equal with God and gave up his power and his authority because he had all of that

800
00:52:03.440 --> 00:52:05.560
before and he gave it all up.

801
00:52:05.840 --> 00:52:10.400
And once he gave it all up, he, um, and, and he completely died.

802
00:52:10.400 --> 00:52:14.200
I mean, like he, he not only lived without his power and authority, you

803
00:52:14.200 --> 00:52:15.760
know, his divinity and power and authority.

804
00:52:15.760 --> 00:52:17.160
He like, he died.

805
00:52:17.160 --> 00:52:22.000
He like, you know, went that far in his obedience and God said, okay,

806
00:52:22.040 --> 00:52:24.080
now I can entrust you with it.

807
00:52:24.640 --> 00:52:29.480
And so now I'm going to grant you power and authority because you gave it up to

808
00:52:29.480 --> 00:52:34.960
me, put it on the altar and walked away empty-handed where you're now powerless.

809
00:52:35.000 --> 00:52:39.640
And the only way you can have it back is if I give it to you, but I get to

810
00:52:39.640 --> 00:52:41.440
choose whether or not I give it to you.

811
00:52:41.440 --> 00:52:45.360
So we have to submit it to him, never expecting to get it back.

812
00:52:46.200 --> 00:52:47.800
It's that kind of a submission.

813
00:52:47.800 --> 00:52:50.520
I mean, so to speak, I don't mean expect, I mean, there's nothing wrong with

814
00:52:50.520 --> 00:52:56.800
expecting, but we have a tend to how old God to an obligation if we are expecting

815
00:52:56.800 --> 00:52:56.960
it.

816
00:52:56.960 --> 00:53:01.480
So that's why I use, that's why I say, you know, just, you know, don't expect

817
00:53:01.480 --> 00:53:06.080
it, meaning like we have to completely let go, not knowing if we're ever going

818
00:53:06.080 --> 00:53:10.480
to have those things or the whatever, because God's like, do you want me or

819
00:53:10.480 --> 00:53:11.640
do you want your lifestyle?

820
00:53:12.440 --> 00:53:13.120
Do you want me?

821
00:53:13.120 --> 00:53:16.400
Or do you want life to, do you want to live life in a particular way?

822
00:53:16.440 --> 00:53:17.280
Which one do you want?

823
00:53:17.480 --> 00:53:22.560
Because we do have to make a, it does, it is, we do have to make a decision.

824
00:53:23.240 --> 00:53:27.120
Like, it doesn't mean that we wouldn't be a Christian anymore, but God's just

825
00:53:27.120 --> 00:53:34.440
like, do you want to ask me and require, is it more important to you to live a

826
00:53:34.440 --> 00:53:41.280
particular way or am who I am and you getting closer to me and you knowing me,

827
00:53:41.640 --> 00:53:43.360
is that more important to you?

828
00:53:43.520 --> 00:53:45.560
Because that is more love and freedom.

829
00:53:45.800 --> 00:53:48.280
And this other, even though you'll still be in God.

830
00:53:48.520 --> 00:53:53.280
And even though he'll even though he'll still talk to us and all kinds of things,

831
00:53:53.320 --> 00:53:56.560
even though he's already given us everything in this place, just like in

832
00:53:56.560 --> 00:53:59.800
this place, this place doesn't have anything that this place doesn't.

833
00:54:00.640 --> 00:54:05.080
The difference is in this place, we actually get to experience what God's

834
00:54:05.080 --> 00:54:05.600
given us.

835
00:54:05.960 --> 00:54:11.880
And in this place, we chose, we chose to receive what the world offered instead

836
00:54:11.880 --> 00:54:13.720
of experiencing what God gave us.

837
00:54:14.840 --> 00:54:19.840
We chose to take up, well, the world is offering this and God offered this.

838
00:54:19.880 --> 00:54:23.800
In other words, God, God, we, we literally were given, like, it's like

839
00:54:23.800 --> 00:54:25.240
we were given two different gifts.

840
00:54:25.520 --> 00:54:28.320
They weren't really guests because the world's way we have to work for,

841
00:54:28.640 --> 00:54:29.720
but just think of it that way.

842
00:54:29.840 --> 00:54:30.280
Think of it.

843
00:54:30.280 --> 00:54:34.920
Hey, look, you'll, you have to work for this, or you can just get this for free.

844
00:54:34.960 --> 00:54:36.080
Which one do we want?

845
00:54:36.080 --> 00:54:40.160
And we, and if we're choosing this one over here, you know, well, then we're,

846
00:54:40.160 --> 00:54:45.720
if we're choosing that, we want the lifestyle over God and we're saying,

847
00:54:45.720 --> 00:54:52.800
okay, Lord, I want to, um, I want to, uh, me having, I don't know, comfort

848
00:54:52.800 --> 00:54:56.560
or what it is that I want out of a particular relationship or a particular

849
00:54:56.560 --> 00:54:59.960
lifestyle or whatever, Lord, I really want that fulfilled.

850
00:55:00.000 --> 00:55:08.660
So, um, and if I follow, if I follow the world's way of doing it, either literally the world's

851
00:55:08.660 --> 00:55:14.880
way or Lord, I just simply use the old covenant relationship with you, where if I do enough,

852
00:55:14.880 --> 00:55:17.000
you'll bless me enough.

853
00:55:17.000 --> 00:55:20.000
Then I can predict my outcome.

854
00:55:20.000 --> 00:55:27.200
I can get what it is that I want simply by insisting that I will only interact with you

855
00:55:27.200 --> 00:55:28.200
in a particular way.

856
00:55:28.200 --> 00:55:32.000
And you may only interact with me in a particular way.

857
00:55:32.000 --> 00:55:36.980
So that's working for God's favor, for his blessings, which is why God said, do these

858
00:55:36.980 --> 00:55:41.240
obey these rules and laws, and I will bless you and don't do it.

859
00:55:41.240 --> 00:55:42.240
And I will curse you.

860
00:55:42.240 --> 00:55:47.920
He mentions that in Deuteronomy, um, and then, um, and then of course, you know, or we can

861
00:55:47.920 --> 00:55:54.060
choose, you know, to receive, to receive his gift that, um, so regardless of whether we're

862
00:55:54.060 --> 00:55:58.960
pursuing it in the world's way, or we're pursuing it in the world's way, but we're

863
00:55:58.960 --> 00:56:03.860
looking to God, meaning like we're, uh, we're still using a formula.

864
00:56:03.860 --> 00:56:05.640
See the world's way works by formula.

865
00:56:05.640 --> 00:56:07.820
We can try to work a formula with God.

866
00:56:07.820 --> 00:56:10.300
That's called the old covenant doing it strictly.

867
00:56:10.300 --> 00:56:14.180
The world's way is completely out of all covenants with God, completely out of it.

868
00:56:14.180 --> 00:56:15.340
So we could try that way.

869
00:56:15.340 --> 00:56:19.480
We can, or we can learn from all these unbelievers about how to do it without God.

870
00:56:19.480 --> 00:56:20.480
You can do that.

871
00:56:20.480 --> 00:56:21.480
And you know what?

872
00:56:21.480 --> 00:56:22.480
It works.

873
00:56:22.480 --> 00:56:24.040
The law of attraction works.

874
00:56:24.040 --> 00:56:28.880
That's why it's attractive because people really do get results simply by working hard

875
00:56:28.880 --> 00:56:30.240
enough.

876
00:56:30.240 --> 00:56:34.200
They learn all the formulas about how to get what they want and they, they want it bad

877
00:56:34.200 --> 00:56:35.200
enough.

878
00:56:35.200 --> 00:56:37.200
They, they get their mindset just right.

879
00:56:37.200 --> 00:56:40.120
And, and they can absolutely do it.

880
00:56:40.120 --> 00:56:42.100
So those things are not false.

881
00:56:42.100 --> 00:56:46.640
They are true, but they are founded in false idol.

882
00:56:46.640 --> 00:56:51.120
They're founded in something that's not God.

883
00:56:51.120 --> 00:56:57.640
And so anyway so we could do that, or we could try to apply all that sweat and formula

884
00:56:57.640 --> 00:57:02.920
to our relationship with God and saying, God, tell me what to do in order to get what I

885
00:57:02.920 --> 00:57:05.280
want and I'll do it.

886
00:57:05.280 --> 00:57:07.840
So it's still, it's still old covenant and it's still sweat.

887
00:57:07.840 --> 00:57:15.360
The other is the other is, Hey God, we can receive an experience in our life and our

888
00:57:15.360 --> 00:57:20.000
life can be framed up by and created by all of the inheritance that he's already given

889
00:57:20.000 --> 00:57:21.000
us.

890
00:57:21.880 --> 00:57:26.720
We can experience it, but by doing so, we have to give up this and we don't know what

891
00:57:26.720 --> 00:57:29.360
this will make our life look like.

892
00:57:29.360 --> 00:57:31.440
So do we want that bad enough?

893
00:57:31.440 --> 00:57:33.900
Now understand God is a very good God.

894
00:57:33.900 --> 00:57:40.360
He is wonderful, but his goodness doesn't always manifest in the same, uh, with the

895
00:57:40.360 --> 00:57:45.480
same, um, I don't know, in the same way, like there are people that pursuing the Lord on

896
00:57:45.480 --> 00:57:48.600
are extremely poor and lost everything.

897
00:57:48.600 --> 00:57:52.360
And then there are others that, that did it and God gave them all of this stuff.

898
00:57:52.360 --> 00:57:53.360
Why did he give them all this stuff?

899
00:57:53.360 --> 00:57:55.360
Cause they no longer needed it.

900
00:57:55.360 --> 00:57:56.920
So now they could be entrusted with it.

901
00:57:56.920 --> 00:58:00.400
Now they no longer relied on it and they chose him over this stuff.

902
00:58:00.400 --> 00:58:04.160
So now they can be entrusted with the stuff because they no longer need the stuff.

903
00:58:04.160 --> 00:58:07.840
So that was one of the interesting things when the Lord taught me about how to interact

904
00:58:07.840 --> 00:58:13.480
with money in faith with the Lord is that I don't choose money and I don't ask the Lord

905
00:58:13.480 --> 00:58:14.480
for money.

906
00:58:14.480 --> 00:58:19.120
I ask that he provide for me and that he manifest it in the way that he wants, meaning

907
00:58:19.120 --> 00:58:26.800
that I may not get the money and I may not be financially, uh, how would I put that?

908
00:58:26.800 --> 00:58:33.960
How would I put that, uh, that I asked that it, because him providing for me does not

909
00:58:33.960 --> 00:58:38.520
mean that he gets me out of whatever financial situation that I'm in.

910
00:58:38.520 --> 00:58:44.400
It means that he just provide for me and he gets to determine what that definition is.

911
00:58:45.320 --> 00:58:46.320
What does it mean to provide for me?

912
00:58:46.320 --> 00:58:47.320
He gets to decide.

913
00:58:47.320 --> 00:58:52.520
And I no longer, and I have to no longer emotionally require him to give me money in order for

914
00:58:52.520 --> 00:58:57.160
me to be okay with him or for me to him to like, get me out of this financial situation

915
00:58:57.160 --> 00:59:03.040
that I'm in, you know, with, um, yeah, for him to get me out of this financial situation

916
00:59:03.040 --> 00:59:04.040
that I'm in.

917
00:59:04.040 --> 00:59:05.480
And I just choose that.

918
00:59:05.480 --> 00:59:09.820
No, God, I choose that you are a provider and you get to manifest who that is.

919
00:59:09.820 --> 00:59:12.920
You get to show me who that is just by my experience.

920
00:59:12.920 --> 00:59:17.400
And so when he did that, it literally changed the way that I saw money.

921
00:59:17.400 --> 00:59:22.800
So I can get a thousand dollars or I could get $5 and it's kind of like, okay.

922
00:59:22.800 --> 00:59:28.440
And I just move on because that thousand can't give me any more than the $5.

923
00:59:28.440 --> 00:59:33.880
What does, because I've chosen that my provider is now God, not money.

924
00:59:33.880 --> 00:59:38.480
So money, the number has, you know, I'm not saying that I'm perfect.

925
00:59:38.480 --> 00:59:39.480
Yeah.

926
00:59:39.480 --> 00:59:40.520
I'm just talking in general terms.

927
00:59:40.520 --> 00:59:42.760
It really totally shifted money for me.

928
00:59:43.600 --> 00:59:48.080
So now it, the numbers didn't matter as much.

929
00:59:48.080 --> 00:59:49.640
It's really, really wild.

930
00:59:49.640 --> 00:59:54.120
I could just, I could just see numbers blow through my account and I'm like, okay, there

931
00:59:54.120 --> 00:59:55.120
they are.

932
00:59:55.120 --> 00:59:56.120
And I, and I can move on.

933
00:59:56.120 --> 01:00:00.040
I didn't change the decisions that I made and how I made.

934
01:00:00.000 --> 01:00:04.960
those decisions and what I bought and what I didn't bought based off of the number of my account.

935
01:00:06.320 --> 01:00:11.200
Because it's not providing for me, God is, and material possessions aren't providing for me.

936
01:00:11.200 --> 01:00:16.400
Money is not, I mean, money, food is not sustaining me, you know, that kind of a thing. God is.

937
01:00:16.400 --> 01:00:22.560
So the other stuff I can't depend on and I, and I stopped depending on it so it can just come and go.

938
01:00:23.520 --> 01:00:28.800
So God has flowed a lot of money through my hands because it just comes, I don't pay it

939
01:00:28.800 --> 01:00:36.000
any attention. And before I know it's gone because I've like given it away or I, I, or I don't know,

940
01:00:36.000 --> 01:00:40.240
my car broke down and I didn't know that I was going to need money for that. And so God had me,

941
01:00:40.240 --> 01:00:45.440
you know, gave me enough money right when I needed it in order to pay for the tires or whatever it

942
01:00:45.440 --> 01:00:54.240
was. And so I, I couldn't, I just basically have to allow myself to, I have to live with my hands

943
01:00:54.240 --> 01:01:01.120
open where the spirit or the river or money, you know, or relationships or whatever is something

944
01:01:01.120 --> 01:01:07.200
that I'm experiencing as God brings them in and out. As opposed for me thinking, oh, thank goodness

945
01:01:07.200 --> 01:01:12.720
that God gave me the money. Now I can, now I can do this and do what I need to do with it.

946
01:01:12.720 --> 01:01:20.080
Now I've got this, oh, he saved me because he gave me the thing that saves me. He gave me the money.

947
01:01:20.080 --> 01:01:25.280
He gave me the food or whatever. And I can't, I'm just like, no, God's provider. And so, okay.

948
01:01:25.280 --> 01:01:29.360
So the money comes in, okay, God, what do you want me to do with the money? Or it gives me the food.

949
01:01:29.360 --> 01:01:37.360
Okay. God, you know, what do you want me to do with food? It's just, it's all very it it's I I'm

950
01:01:38.400 --> 01:01:44.320
we're called to no longer depend on it and need it. So it no longer has significance. And we no

951
01:01:44.320 --> 01:01:48.880
longer get excited when we get a thousand dollars because there's no difference than if I had zero.

952
01:01:50.160 --> 01:01:56.160
And, and I, and I've literally experienced that I've literally lived that. Um, so I have, for

953
01:01:56.160 --> 01:02:04.080
instance, um, I have done the rest intensive like this. Um, and I've done, uh, and I never know

954
01:02:05.040 --> 01:02:10.160
the rest intensives are very irregular. I mean, uh, uh, and I mean, you could tell,

955
01:02:10.160 --> 01:02:14.480
I just came up with this other offer just night before last. And like, okay, everybody, here you

956
01:02:14.480 --> 01:02:18.880
go. I don't even know if anybody wants this, but, but I, and I wasn't even going to do anything,

957
01:02:18.880 --> 01:02:25.600
you know, or I'll go a long time without doing anything. And, and, and, but every single time.

958
01:02:25.600 --> 01:02:30.800
And then there were times where I've had an idea. It's kind of like the rest intensive and nobody

959
01:02:30.800 --> 01:02:36.720
was interested. And I had bills coming up. I'm like, okay, Lord. So it's not the rest intensive

960
01:02:36.720 --> 01:02:44.880
Lord. And the money that provides for me, it's you. So every single solitary month for,

961
01:02:45.040 --> 01:02:53.520
or is it three years or four years now as he 2019 it's three, three years now,

962
01:02:53.520 --> 01:02:57.840
every single month, God has paid for all of my bills, all of them. Even when I was traveling

963
01:02:57.840 --> 01:03:06.720
overseas, all of them, it is wild. And I've never been, and he's not, um, uh, I haven't missed a

964
01:03:06.720 --> 01:03:12.320
single one. I mean, it's, I don't know. It's just, it's just pretty, pretty well because I just

965
01:03:12.320 --> 01:03:18.720
trusted that he's provider, not that I need my bills paid. I don't hold him emotionally responsible

966
01:03:18.720 --> 01:03:26.240
for that anymore. Um, so I'm not saying I'm perfect. I'm trying to paint this with very

967
01:03:26.240 --> 01:03:30.320
big, broad brushstrokes to, to give you a principle. There's still times where I struggle

968
01:03:30.320 --> 01:03:34.160
and I'm like, oh my word, how many months has he provided for and protected me? And I'm coming up

969
01:03:34.160 --> 01:03:41.200
against, you know, X month. And I'm like, oh my word, Lord, it's like my bills are due in like

970
01:03:41.200 --> 01:03:45.920
tomorrow and where's the money or whatever. And I'll get all upset. Like, Lord, what have I done

971
01:03:45.920 --> 01:03:51.520
wrong? I haven't seen anything that you haven't provided. I still have that, you know, I know

972
01:03:51.520 --> 01:03:56.960
better than the Israelites. You were going through, you were going through the desert and three days

973
01:03:56.960 --> 01:04:01.040
after they got water, they're complaining about something else. And like, you brought us into

974
01:04:01.040 --> 01:04:06.480
Egypt out of Egypt to die. You know, I still have those days with the Lord. I'm just talking

975
01:04:06.480 --> 01:04:10.480
generally. I'm talking about the fact that I have experienced it and I lived it for three years.

976
01:04:11.200 --> 01:04:17.760
And, um, and so anyway, I have to choose, um, God over my life being a particular way. And,

977
01:04:17.760 --> 01:04:22.400
and so I I've had to lose my hold on material things, lose my holds on relationships

978
01:04:22.960 --> 01:04:26.640
and just be like, okay, this is what God has allowed me to experience right now.

979
01:04:27.360 --> 01:04:32.640
But my life experience is him and developing a relationship with him. Everything else is

980
01:04:32.640 --> 01:04:38.080
just stuff I'm going through, meaning like I'm just traveling through. So is any of this resonating,

981
01:04:38.080 --> 01:04:50.400
making sense? Yes, it does. I feel like it makes it easier, but it's just as hard as all the

982
01:04:50.400 --> 01:04:55.360
reasons we've said no. Yeah. Yeah. Cause I automatically go to, okay, well, I'm going to

983
01:04:55.360 --> 01:04:59.760
like trust you with this and end up in a camper with no money.

984
01:05:00.000 --> 01:05:12.440
Like, yeah, and the, the thing is that we, it may be the thing is we don't hold

985
01:05:12.440 --> 01:05:17.000
God emotionally responsible for that is my bread, which is God over the lifestyle.

986
01:05:17.000 --> 01:05:20.280
But here's another thing is like, are the fact that our mind goes

987
01:05:20.280 --> 01:05:22.880
there shows us who we think God is.

988
01:05:24.320 --> 01:05:29.960
We're like, you know, he doesn't, uh, is we don't expect good things from him.

989
01:05:30.680 --> 01:05:33.080
We want them, but we don't expect it.

990
01:05:33.080 --> 01:05:36.800
We think Zach giving our sacrificing everything means

991
01:05:36.840 --> 01:05:39.120
that we're not going to get it.

992
01:05:39.320 --> 01:05:42.320
And so often that is exactly what you do, what we do.

993
01:05:42.320 --> 01:05:43.720
And I'm so glad that you brought that up.

994
01:05:43.760 --> 01:05:45.040
It's exactly what we do.

995
01:05:45.400 --> 01:05:54.760
We, we, we, um, we believe that the Lord is always wanting, like, uh, uh, I

996
01:05:54.760 --> 01:05:57.680
don't know that the Lord's always going to send us like to as missionary to

997
01:05:57.720 --> 01:06:04.760
Africa cannibals, or, you know, he's gonna, he's going to, did any of y'all

998
01:06:04.760 --> 01:06:06.720
Richie, any of y'all remember that song?

999
01:06:07.040 --> 01:06:09.240
Uh, please don't send me to Africa.

1000
01:06:09.440 --> 01:06:10.680
I don't think I've got what it takes.

1001
01:06:10.680 --> 01:06:12.000
Do y'all remember that song?

1002
01:06:12.720 --> 01:06:13.840
Oh my word.

1003
01:06:13.880 --> 01:06:15.840
Oh, it's a hilarious song.

1004
01:06:16.160 --> 01:06:23.440
It's, it's a, uh, um, yeah, it's a, please don't send me to Africa.

1005
01:06:23.440 --> 01:06:24.840
I don't think I've got what it takes.

1006
01:06:25.240 --> 01:06:26.280
I'm just a man.

1007
01:06:26.320 --> 01:06:27.320
I'm not a Tarzan.

1008
01:06:27.320 --> 01:06:29.240
I don't like lions, gorillas, or snakes.

1009
01:06:29.880 --> 01:06:33.920
I'll, I'll serve you here in suburbia in this, in my comfortable middle-class

1010
01:06:33.920 --> 01:06:36.480
life, but please don't send me out into the bush where the

1011
01:06:36.520 --> 01:06:37.920
natives are restless at night.

1012
01:06:40.360 --> 01:06:44.200
Song of like, I'll serve you, but please don't ask anything serious.

1013
01:06:45.120 --> 01:06:47.120
Serve you here in the comfort of suburbia.

1014
01:06:47.160 --> 01:06:50.880
It's like this really funny song from either the eighties or the nineties.

1015
01:06:50.880 --> 01:06:54.360
We would play it and sing it and dance around the living room when I was a

1016
01:06:54.360 --> 01:06:56.640
little girl and then got sinister Turkey.

1017
01:06:58.040 --> 01:07:00.000
It was, it was an Africa.

1018
01:07:01.080 --> 01:07:04.920
Maybe we sang it too much and we say it into existence.

1019
01:07:06.200 --> 01:07:12.160
And I think that that's the thing is it's like, you're kind of, or at least I have,

1020
01:07:12.160 --> 01:07:17.440
it's like, oh, if you want something, then God's probably gonna give me the opposite.

1021
01:07:18.040 --> 01:07:21.920
Like, yeah, this is what you love.

1022
01:07:21.920 --> 01:07:22.960
This is what you desire.

1023
01:07:22.960 --> 01:07:26.160
Then expect the exact opposite to happen.

1024
01:07:26.680 --> 01:07:27.280
Correct.

1025
01:07:29.280 --> 01:07:31.280
In our minds, that's a mean God.

1026
01:07:31.640 --> 01:07:33.080
And that's what we think he is.

1027
01:07:33.520 --> 01:07:38.920
So we think, and so that, and then we turn around and think, okay, well, I think he

1028
01:07:38.920 --> 01:07:41.120
would give me these things, therefore he's mean.

1029
01:07:41.120 --> 01:07:44.480
And then eventually it comes into an expectation of him being mean.

1030
01:07:44.480 --> 01:07:46.560
And therefore he's going to do these types of things.

1031
01:07:47.000 --> 01:07:50.280
And then we now switch it to just approaching life from the perspective

1032
01:07:50.280 --> 01:07:52.680
that God is this wrathful God.

1033
01:07:52.680 --> 01:07:53.880
He's a master.

1034
01:07:54.720 --> 01:07:56.280
He's a slave driver.

1035
01:07:56.280 --> 01:08:00.880
He's, you know, he doesn't want me to be comfortable.

1036
01:08:00.880 --> 01:08:02.960
He wants everything needs to be hard.

1037
01:08:03.200 --> 01:08:05.200
He's always putting me to it, to a test.

1038
01:08:06.040 --> 01:08:08.760
And I'm just this peon and that's how he looks at me.

1039
01:08:08.760 --> 01:08:10.920
And therefore he's going to require all of these things with me.

1040
01:08:10.920 --> 01:08:14.880
And therefore that's when, what is going to make my life look so challenging.

1041
01:08:15.320 --> 01:08:19.920
And, and it's all starts from that perspective that that's who we believe God is.

1042
01:08:20.120 --> 01:08:24.479
So if we want our lives to change, we have to change what we believe about God.

1043
01:08:25.279 --> 01:08:26.960
That's what everything comes back to.

1044
01:08:26.960 --> 01:08:30.479
It's not like, oh, well, we'll see change and then we'll believe something different.

1045
01:08:30.960 --> 01:08:33.200
We actually have to do the opposite first.

1046
01:08:33.520 --> 01:08:37.960
And we have to give up this ever happening and choose that he is good.

1047
01:08:37.960 --> 01:08:41.040
Choose that he is who he says that he is, and then see what kind

1048
01:08:41.040 --> 01:08:42.720
of an experience that we have.

1049
01:08:43.080 --> 01:08:44.680
And I promise you this.

1050
01:08:44.680 --> 01:08:52.640
I promise you that once you find out who God is, just as being, you no longer need

1051
01:08:52.960 --> 01:08:58.040
the other things, and it's not that you don't want them, but you want them kind

1052
01:08:58.040 --> 01:09:04.800
of like, uh, we all want ice cream or we all like dessert, or I don't know what

1053
01:09:04.800 --> 01:09:07.840
y'all's thing is, you know, that y'all love you, you like it, but can you live

1054
01:09:07.840 --> 01:09:08.279
without it?

1055
01:09:08.279 --> 01:09:08.479
Yeah.

1056
01:09:09.319 --> 01:09:11.319
You know, do you have to have it right this moment?

1057
01:09:11.319 --> 01:09:14.359
No, but it doesn't mean that just because you're not desperate for it.

1058
01:09:14.600 --> 01:09:15.560
Doesn't mean you don't want it.

1059
01:09:15.840 --> 01:09:16.680
So it's like that.

1060
01:09:16.680 --> 01:09:18.640
It's like, it takes away the desperation.

1061
01:09:18.640 --> 01:09:20.439
It takes away the need for things.

1062
01:09:20.920 --> 01:09:22.120
Didn't mean that we don't want it.

1063
01:09:22.120 --> 01:09:25.680
Cause sure enough in the Lord, we have desires and God likes that.

1064
01:09:25.680 --> 01:09:26.840
He wants us to have desires.

1065
01:09:26.840 --> 01:09:32.120
In fact, the desires become more clear when we're in him and we've given everything up.

1066
01:09:32.800 --> 01:09:36.960
Um, but you're wanting it from a totally different perspective.

1067
01:09:36.960 --> 01:09:39.200
You no longer, you no longer need it at all.

1068
01:09:39.600 --> 01:09:41.560
They're like, if I get it, that's great.

1069
01:09:41.560 --> 01:09:42.760
And if I don't, I don't.

1070
01:09:42.840 --> 01:09:43.520
And that's fine.

1071
01:09:44.479 --> 01:09:49.399
Either way it doesn't in a manner of speaking, neither way affects you.

1072
01:09:49.720 --> 01:09:50.800
Neither answer affects you.

1073
01:09:51.200 --> 01:09:53.000
I promise I've experienced it.

1074
01:09:53.520 --> 01:09:54.080
I live it.

1075
01:09:54.560 --> 01:09:59.920
It really does not matter like, okay, we can stay here or we could move.

1076
01:10:00.000 --> 01:10:04.800
here. We could do this, or I could have this, or if not have this, it's just again, open hands and

1077
01:10:04.800 --> 01:10:10.960
everything's just flowing through it. Um, and you can still want things that God wants you to want

1078
01:10:10.960 --> 01:10:17.440
things, but you don't, but if it comes, it comes and I'll, I'll love it and I'll enjoy it. But if

1079
01:10:17.440 --> 01:10:21.840
it doesn't, that's fine. You know why? Because there'll be something else and God will give me

1080
01:10:21.840 --> 01:10:27.840
something different and all of that. And, um, anyway, so it just totally different way of,

1081
01:10:27.840 --> 01:10:33.760
of living, but is that helpful? Yes. Helpful. Thank you.

1082
01:10:36.800 --> 01:10:44.640
All right. Well, I will let y'all go. Um, it has been a fun rest intensive and I will see,

1083
01:10:44.640 --> 01:10:52.560
um, at least five of y'all in the, and the rest lifestyle. And, um, so, and then if anyone else

1084
01:10:52.560 --> 01:10:57.680
ends up joining, that is great. Um, but it's been really special to be with everybody. Y'all

1085
01:10:57.680 --> 01:11:02.480
been amazing. And it's been a lot of fun to get to develop a community and where everything is

1086
01:11:02.480 --> 01:11:14.640
still open through Saturday. So, um, enjoy and I'll see y'all in there. Bye everybody.