It's good to see everybody.
Does anyone have any questions that are a question they'd like to start us off with
or to catch us up on how they've been doing the past several days since Sunday?
Just kind of what's going on and just like kind of like a little journey share of maybe
something you're struggling with or something really neat that the Lord that you noticed
that the Lord manifested his character as in your life and you thought, oh my word,
you know, that is God manifesting his goodness and I can finally recognize that or his love
or protection or his provision because when we start to choose that that's who he is,
we start to look for how he manifests those different aspects of his character as opposed
to looking for different things to happen and then choosing as a result of those things
to dictate to ourselves whether or not God's actually being good or whether God's actually
is who he says that he is, but instead you would choose that he is that thing and then
you begin to see evidence of it in ways that you aren't used to seeing it.
You're not used to seeing like such and such is actually God being love or such and such
as God being good and but if you choose first that that's his character, then you start
recognizing certain not milestones but certain events or certain things that happen as actually
God's goodness when you wouldn't have given him credit for it before you would have thought
even sometimes that that would have been God being the opposite that that would have been
proof that God wasn't being good or or loving or whatever so anyway, so does anyone have
anything that they would like to start us off with? Hey Kate.
I can always try to pull something out of a hat. I don't have anything at the moment.
I have I have something yeah so I guess I feel like like I've been going been up and
down things have been up and down for me yesterday was really really good and I just
I felt like I've just really been able to enter God's rest and like give give up my need to
control things need to see what the future looks like but I've I've been really struggling with
my relationship with my husband and I don't know how to go about this. I feel like I'm
extra critical towards him. I feel like I'm as the perfectionist that I am as I like to be
have everything perfect that I always like to you know parents parent gently and as I call it
gentle parenting versus how we used to parents like most of the world parents and as well as
like in our faith that our faith community and getting going to find a church. I'm having a hard
time like surrendering control of him leading our home in regards to the spiritual leadership of our
home. I feel like I've kind of been the leader in that area and he's kind of come along beside
beside me in that and I have all these things and it's I feel like it's all culminating into
like this just frustration like I feel I'm like the frustrated one and he just wants me to be happy
and I don't know what to do with it. With what? With which part? With with gosh all of it
with the the frustration the criticalness I have towards him like he's not doing enough
he doesn't want to grow as much as I do I'm having like those kind of thoughts. Yeah yeah
um so many things okay I mean that not not as a problem that so many like different ways that you
could view this and come at this it's my point so in other words it's easier and that I have so many
things that came to mind I'm like oh yeah um uh oh man my goodness where to where to start
uh the okay so I'll just jump in so one of the first things is that the more that he is is you
choose him over your kids and you choose him over your household over how they grow up um over what
is that happening you know with that over your um over your family life so to speak um and and
that can be very very very very very very hard so I'm not negating that at all I'm fully
So it's very, very hard, but it doesn't mean that we don't still, it's not still required.
Anyway, as hard as that is to actually do by doing it by, by choosing him, he will, it will fix everything else.
Because, because for one thing, you were wanting to him to, to stand, you would, I mean, I would imagine that you would prefer him to stand up in the spiritual leadership role, if he could handle it.
So in other words, you've been doing it because it's not being done but if he could handle it, I'm assuming that you would rather can do it.
That's what I figure most, most wives, whether, I don't know, there's just something in us that just knows that's how it's supposed to be.
So anyway, he, they have to be, I mean, it goes for any human being, but just, just talking very specifically about husbands talking very specifically about, about men.
They just really have to be, have to have the wife come and come and support them, support who it is that they are.
And yes, the job that they're doing and the fact of how they like to be affirmed that they get so much affirmation off of what it is that they do and what it is the accomplished.
So yes, that is important to affirm, et cetera, but that, that he is, is good enough for you as he is without having to accomplish, you know, so in other words, even if you would have him do something different than what it is that he chose to do.
In other words, how it is that he chose to handle the situation you're choosing him instead and supporting him, you know, affirming him and whatever, even if you don't like the outcome, even if you thought it was mistaken.
If you're like, look, I told you so, or if I had let myself, I would have told you so, or whatever, but instead choosing him over the outcome.
And then he will learn that he real that you really are.
The word force has a negative connotation so I don't want to use that you're giving him space to hold the responsibility because you're no longer holding it.
You want to take up the responsibility because no one's taking it.
And because it's like you're letting them so it's the same thing that we do with the Lord we stop controlling in order to give him the space to actually do it, which is what faith is because it's kind of like, okay, you know, I'm trying to protect myself and so we're
working really hard I'm trying to protect myself but God you know I'd prefer you to come in and protect me instead God's like I can't, if you're doing it.
So it's the same thing you know with them. If we're trying to control an outcome, like with the kids were with, you know, even church decision or, you know, whatever, then, then they won't, there won't be space for them to actually.
Man, what are the words like to not to kind of to there won't be space for them to actually do it for them to kind of prove themselves to step into that, you know, or whatever.
And yes, these are areas in which I have to trust my husband in as well, and that I'm actually actively walking out in certain areas of my life. And yeah, it's very hard.
There's so many different people who in certain areas of our life you know live very differently. And, you know, I can no longer do and make decisions in the same way that I used to, you know, especially like for instance if I think oh well following the Lord
you know I do it like this. And it's like, well I do it like this. Well, so what do we do. And so I've really had to just really learn with the Lord and I'm still learning, you know how to submit that to the Lord if I'm like yeah but if we do
it this way we get this outcome, and he's like, you know, so you gotta understand I follow the Lord, you know, and the Lord has shown up in amazing ways this is how you follow him, you know, in this, in this way and so anyway, but what I've done is I have
and I've told the Lord this is like God you know I believe that, you know, me and my relationship with you is ultra ultra importance to you. However, you have united me with my husband, and I am and call me to submit to him so Lord even though we discussed
the he and I discussed things and whatever that ultimately what it is that I did is I chose him. So Lord I'm choosing him over that of how that over how he and his decisions and his perspective his approach is whatever the situation is, is calling for affects
my life.
Now I don't have the complication the emotional complication currently of adding children to the mix, so I'm fully aware that that is not something that I can speak to with experience, but I personally believe that it doesn't change the truth.
That's for you, between you and the Lord, I have not walked into that with experience yet with children, but my point is that I do know that God wants us to always choose our husband, you know spouses over.
the children, we're actually one with our children. We're not one with our,
sorry, we're one with our spouses. We're not one with our children.
Um, and then with our children, you know, we have them for 18 years in the house and they,
and they grow up and they move on, but we're worth our husbands, like,
you know, however long that we live. So anyway, the thing is that we have to continually choose
them and by choosing them, then it's creating space for them to be able to make decisions.
And they have, they typically then rise to that, to the rise to the occasion, maybe not always,
and the, and just because they rise to the occasion. Okay. Let, let me, let me rephrase
it a different way. They can, we'll create a bit. Well, when we're submitting ourselves to them,
we're submitting ourselves to the protection that they choose to provide in the form that
they choose to provide it in. We don't get to choose that. They get to choose that. Now. Yeah,
we get, we talk about it, but what I mean is like, when you talk about like ultimate surrender to
God, just like, you know, ultimate like a submission to, to our, our, our husbands,
there's the, there's a thing where we are, what we're doing is we are submitting ourselves to
their protection, just like we do with the Lord, to their provision, but in the way that they
believe it should be offered us. Otherwise we're out from under them taking the reins and taking
control or whatever. So this is the role and the authority that they were that they were given by
God and equipped by God to stand in. And we're then, but the way that they believe that they
actually can is if we come under and support them and allow them to show up, allow them to rise to
that place. And have you gotten to governing creation relationships? Have you watched that
one yet? Yeah, I just did today. Okay. So, you know, in there, I talk about like seeing them
in the spirit and then they end up rising to that position. Yeah. Did I talk about that on there?
Okay. Cause it's been a while since I've watched that one. So it's like, I think I talked about
that one in that session, but anyway, if you, because if you interact with your spouse, the
way that you actually seeing them in spirit, which means seeing them in their spirit, as opposed to
their soul or their body that they're presenting themselves as, which could be them not trusting
the Lord. It could be them taking like the protection and provision in their own hands,
not, and not trusting the Lord to do that for their family. It could be, well, they think that,
I don't know, it could be all kinds of things. Well, this is how I was raised. So this is how
I'm going to raise my children. Oh my goodness. Don't you know that that's going to put them in
therapy for 10 years? You know, I mean, we're not talking about abuse. We're talking about just like
different ways of raising children. That kind of a thing. It's if, if we actually see them for who
it is that they are, and then we interact with them like that, they typically over time will
rise to that position. And it can be challenging, especially to navigate the journey until they get
there. But, and even when they get there, you know, for one thing they have to, they have to
have grace for us. And for the, for another, there's going to be new areas in which we're
going to have to start seeing them in the spirit. And just like with the Lord, it's like a very
continual journey. But the, the reason that I wanted to mention that is there is hope,
and that's actually the way in which we can foundationally change and support some,
basically encourage somebody else's change out of love without manipulating them because we're
loving them into, into feeling safe enough to be who it is that God has declared them to be,
because we're choosing to already see and interact with them like that.
And then they begin to rise to that position because they're, that is what you are
emotionally relying on them for. But if you're always protecting yourself from them in order
to protect yourself from disappointment, protecting yourself from the outcome that
could happen, which is what that whole thing of, I told you, so it comes from, you know,
it's an attack on someone else showing that no, not only did you not trust them, but you're now
choose that Brit you're now choosing to put them down in order to elevate yourself over them. And
no one feels emotionally safe in a relationship like that. So it's just always choosing them
instead of the outcome, even when the outcome actually that you feared would happen actually
ends up happening. It's you choose them regardless of the outcome. And yes, I do live this out.
So I'm not talking in theory and all like, Oh, you know, if I were in that situation,
no, no, no, no. We all have that poor Ed has me to deal with. He all needs your prayers.
But from my perspective and the way I see things, regardless of whether I'm right or wrong in this
situation, I'm still having to V I'm still having to walk out and do what it is that I just walked
that I would just walk
through like what I was just walking through and explanation is, um, it's, I have to see
him as the Lord sees them and, um, and interact with them like that.
And I have, and, um, I know that he's, he's prayed a lot over me, both publicly meaning
like to me, you know, not publicly, but in private, you know, with me, but he's also,
I happen to know he privately has prayed over certain things about me to be changed.
I don't mean changed like a, like he's manipulating and he's picked specific things.
I mean that there are certain ways in which I am manifesting wounds and hurts.
And he is like, Lord, will you come in and heal those things?
And so I'm watching those things be healed as a result of his private prayers that he
is currently having to bear some very, um, unfortunate, um, uh, I don't know, but results
of, because I'm wounded in particular areas and then he has to bear the brunt of, of it.
But then, um, um, and then I also am watching him change as a result of me supporting his
re supporting him when he says yes.
And when he says no, so, and, um, I've only been married five and a
half months, I think something like that.
And, um, which doesn't sound long, but it feels like a very long time.
We're marrying when I'm 38 and he's 49.
We, we were very established in our own way of doing things.
And we also are generally very flexible people.
Um, but we have particular ways in which we think it's right in order to follow
the Lord or make particular decisions with the Lord in particular ways.
And that that's has formed and, um, and, and just, uh, I don't know.
It's just, it's just formed our relationship with him.
And so to find that someone else has had a very different experience and
now you're supposed to live life together and make those decisions
together, it creates challenges.
So anyway, we're both, um, praying for each other again, praying that God and
who it is that he's created us to be will continue to manifest not praying that Lord.
I don't like that.
Will you make that thing change?
Um, and another thing me personally, I, uh, I mean, personally, meaning
like just talking about me and God.
Um, there were things that I just naturally just didn't feel protected
in whether emotionally or whether it was some like physical thing.
I don't mean like, like physical abuse.
I'm talking about like a, like a physical object or something that I, um, uh, and,
and then, and in talking to Ed, his perspective on it was very different.
Thought it needed to be handled very different.
And, and I thought, you know, I was used to being able to make all
these decisions on my own and I could just do it.
I didn't have to conference with anybody else about it.
And now when I conference it, I no longer get my way.
This is very frustrating.
Um, uh, and, and so what I did is I've just submitted my protection to the Lord
and feeling like, okay, Lord, you know, this is the situation.
I mean, not when I say protection, understand it's not that I'm not
protected, but that is the part in me that is being threatened.
There's something in me.
That's telling me a lie saying that I'm not safe because I
used to be able to do these things.
If I didn't feel safe, I could do these things and I can make myself safe again.
Or I could get this thing for myself.
I could buy this thing for myself.
This is how I could choose to use my money.
And now I conference on that.
And so now I can't get the thing and whatever.
So, well, actually I'll just mention, um, a couple of things, um, a couple of,
there were a couple of things that I wanted to buy and he, and it just says,
Ashley, I don't think it's, you know, I don't think that we want to, um,
that that would be a good idea.
There were a variety of reasons.
It's like, I don't think it would be good for this.
I don't think it would be good for this.
Um, I don't think it would be a good way to spend our money.
I don't think we have any room in our place for something like that.
You know, so that we started that conversation.
Six, seven months ago, something like that.
And, um, and so I just submitted to that and know that was not easy.
And I did bring it up just a couple of times, you know, just like, well, you
know, I really like this and here's why, and this is very important to me and I
don't ask for much and I'm asking for this.
So I'm that kind of let you know, it's very important to me and whatever.
And, um, and so I told the Lord, Hey Lord, I'm used to being able to see
the value in something and then being able to choose to spend my money on it
and then get it and then benefit from it in my life.
And in the measure Lord, I was actually interacting with an aspect of your
character, a goodness and provision in my life from my father to me of
these sweet, wonderful gifts.
And now Lord I'm being told no.
And I don't mean like he just said no, but I mean like, you know, he was just
saying, Hey, look, actually, I don't think we need to get.
And I was like, Lord, I don't want to do this.
And so it's just like, well, Lord, you know, what's important to me.
And, um, and you, and you know, whether or not, I don't remember how I prayed,
you know, I don't remember, I don't want to say something I didn't, I didn't pray,
but basically it was just like, Lord, you know, um, whether or not it something
like whether or not you approve of us having that thing, or those things
where there were a couple of things, you know, whether or not you approve that.
And, um, uh, but Lord, I'm going to submit to whatever, to what he says,
and I'm going to support him in it.
I'm not going to nag him.
I'm not going to tell him how well I think we should.
And I argue with him.
And in fact, the other night he was asking me, Ashley, so here's my logic.
Why, why do you, I'm not saying that that's what we need to do,
but here's my logic.
So what's your logic?
And I just, and I just rolled over in bed and I said, I don't have any, I just want it.
That's my argument.
I don't have anything to say.
I know your sounds very logical.
I completely agree.
And mine makes sense too, but I can't think of how to articulate it.
And all I can tell you is I want it.
So that's the end.
So it's like, okay.
I mean, a man just doesn't know what to do with, with that.
Right.
So a few days ago, we ended up having an opportunity to have an amazing deal on
these couple of things that I wanted, both of them, the brand that I wanted and
everything.
And like, I had wanted to put these on our wedding registry and he, and you know,
he, he nixed it.
So all of these months later, we now have this amazing deal, but remember his,
I, his whole point wasn't just the deal.
It was the fact, Ashley, we were already trying to call the stuff that we have.
We don't have the space for these things.
So when this deal came up, just, I think it was, you know, what it may have been
last night.
It was last night.
That's when it was.
So this is all very, very recent.
So maybe the Lord knew we were, you know, the Lord knew we were going to have this
conversation.
Maybe he thought it would help.
But and happened last night, not asking him.
I said, Hey, sweetie, you know, these normally run for X, Y, and Z.
This is what they're being offered for.
You know, what do you think?
And he said, you can get them.
It's like, are you serious?
Like, like both.
And he's like, yeah, it's like, are you serious?
This discussion from like six, seven months ago.
And remember he had all this logic and all of this reason, but, but what I believe
really happened is that I had just supported him and what he said.
So if he said no, I honored it and I didn't nag him about it, but I did on the
other half of the marriage.
I'm the other half of the union.
I'm the other half of the oneness.
So I present my opinion.
I present my reason because I'm trying to build a home.
I'm trying to, you know, offer my contribution of things from my perspective.
Sometimes the other perspective doesn't see it the way that we do and whatever.
And, and so I can voice that, but when he's given me a way in which he's choosing
the form in which he's choosing to provide, to provide for me and to protect me, I
receive his form of provision and protection.
I'm like, okay, I didn't like it, but I chose him over the thing.
I chose him over being right.
I'm not saying I was right.
I'm just saying that chose him over the idea of like being right or anything.
And, um, uh, in any way, I believe that in the long run, he just felt that I
really honored him in that.
And then of course I prayed and I said, God, you know, um, uh, you know, if you
want to give us these things, Lord, you can.
I did not, I don't think that I asked God because I don't ask God to give me
something that Ed's not giving me and not allowing, but what I do do is I ask
the Lord, you know, to provide for, and to protect me, to see me, to see the
things that are important to me.
And that he, he believes that that is something that he is.
My father desires to bring into my life.
And I asked that he do that.
But what I don't ever do is even between me and is between me and the Lord, I
don't, I don't make Ed my enemy with God, meaning like me and God, you know,
we're close, we're tight Lord, but then I've got this problem that
you and I typically talk about.
I mean, yeah, we, you know, I do bring stuff that I struggle with, but I don't
make Ed the enemy in my conversation with God.
I have to, I have to love and support him, you know, because he's the other
half of my union that I'm bringing to the Lord.
But anyway, that's how I've been navigating it so far.
And anyway, and that was just something that happened last night and it was
really, it was real cute and it was real sweet and he was just excited to just,
you know, see me happy and whatever.
And that's after multiple discussions.
And I, again.
I had chosen that even though it was a good deal, I didn't nag him about it.
I didn't get upset.
And I just didn't like weed, you know, Weedle and beg and, you know, or, or do
anything.
I just told him it was important to me and I'd like it if we could, but, um, no,
you know, then that's fine.
So anyway, he just, he changed his mind and it was very effortless.
And I was like, wow, all I had to do was just kind of wait.
And I had to support him and choose him over the outcome anyway.
And then God ended up providing for me in that way.
And then using that to, um, uh, to give Ed and I an opportunity to, I don't
know, it's just to interact and to change and to grow and anyway, yeah.
Or is any of this helpful?
Very, very, very, very helpful.
So thank you.
Yeah, you're welcome.
I think I know why I'm single.
You can do whatever you want when you want to.
Yeah.
That sounds tough.
I suppose if I met somebody, you know, the right person, it would be different, but
that, yeah, that takes a lot of grace.
Yeah, it does.
Yeah.
Um, so wait, I don't know.
You're just kind of like, I don't want to say you're trading it, but in a certain
way, uh, yeah, that's really not a very accurate word, but it's the best way I
can think of to describe it as you're trading it for like a different type of
investment in your life.
Um, these other things used to invest in your life in particular ways, and now
you're just being affected by influenced by loved and protected and just, I don't
know, just a different form.
And, um, and there's all kinds of benefits to being loved and, and
protected in that form.
But then it comes with the, with any benefit comes unique challenges to those
benefits.
So I'm learning how to navigate sometimes it's graceful and sometimes it's really
not.
So does anyone have anything else?
It's raining outside.
No one has anything.
No, I'm curious.
This is not a typical question, but I think that, um, maybe it'll still apply to
other people, but so just regarding like the rest intensive and like the, the
teachings and, you know, the shifting and the, and the, you know, changing along
the way and sort of the, the sequence of that or the ebb and flow, cause it's not
really linear sometimes, but, um, I think like my puppy's kissing me, um, I, like,
I think I felt like I got a little off track of what my, my like hope and
expectation was for myself, which is a common thing.
Like I, I tend to have, you know, kind of perfectionistic high expectations,
especially of myself.
And when I have in my mind, this is what I want to do.
And this is what I feel like the Lord's leading me to do and all of this.
Life or circumstances happen.
You know, there's a little disappointment, but I understood
that it was out of my control.
I wasn't blaming myself.
I was just like, man, I wanted to be in the Facebook group and
totally engage with this community.
I really, truly desired to do the journey shares and all these things and be like
all in, and I got off to a great start where finally in, in a way in life and
with the rest intensive, I felt like I was there from the beginning and on track.
And then with some things and all the fallout of what happened in November,
October, November, like I'm behind and I let go of it, but now I feel like I
don't quite know how to decide what's beneficial at the time.
Does that make sense?
Like there's so much awesome.
Meet and teaching.
And I think that's where my indecisiveness can kick in where I'm
like, what do you want me to do, Lord?
Like, do I listen to this teaching or do I pick up, go a little bit ahead
to where everybody else is at?
Um, or do I go backwards and try to go in order?
Um, so it might sound silly, but I just, I guess I feel like, how do you discern
with the Lord, like where you're at in your journey and what you need, like in
terms of understanding or, um, community or, you know, whatever the shift is
specific to the rest intensive, I guess.
Um, yeah.
How do you kind of know that or determine that?
Uh, choose you and the Lord.
And then that the rest intensive is simply a structure.
And this goes for everybody.
The rest intensive is simply a structure that gives people the opportunity to, I
don't, I don't, I don't know, to, to kind of like flow through like a, like a
direction in which to head, but so just, so just choosing you and the Lord.
The fact that, in fact, that you just wake up, um, focused on who exactly he
is, and I don't mean you have to like, think very specifically of all of this
stuff is, um, uh, but just like generally, you know, who does he say that he is to
the degree he says he is that, and then who does he say that you are and then
choose, choose some things at a very basic level, and I'm going somewhere
with this, choose those things at a very basic level, like, okay, he's good.
He, um, I'm, I am the new man.
Um, he, he loves me unconditionally and me and my new man as the new creature.
I always believe my father.
I always love my father.
I always feel an experience being loved on by my father.
That is my state.
That is my state of being.
That is, it's who I am.
It is the experience that I have.
And then that will create clarity for one thing.
It'll, it'll, it'll shift you into rest.
And the fact that you'll stop worrying about all of these things that we have
taken to start to try to like do or improve in, in order to think, because
we think we have to become something, or we think that God, uh, uh, God, we're
trying to get God to be more pleased with us, even shifting into rest, you
know, oh, that's, I finally found the thing that'll make God pleased with us.
No, no, no.
That means that you need to go all the way back to session one.
You know, you know, he loves this unconditionally, you
know, that kind of thing.
So if you just choose some things at a very basic level, then.
In that space between you and the Lord in that existence where he is good.
And so were you, he is perfect.
And in him, you were perfect.
You've been made perfect.
Then there, then all of the shackles, all the responsibility, meaning like
the burden of responsibility, I didn't mean responsibility that
like is all the good stuff.
I mean, the responsibility, it's like the, the burden and the
weight and the oppressiveness, all of that's gone.
So in that space where you and the Lord are great, you and the Lord are wonderful.
You and the Lord, you know, you wake up every morning and God's
just like, Oh, goody.
She's up, you know?
Okay.
So what are we going to do?
I've just, she and I've been doing all kinds of things in her spirit, but
our consciousness doesn't know that.
So, but Hey, this is her consciousness now.
So that's what I get to interact with.
What are we going to do?
If you view life kind of like with all of the restraints broken off,
everything becomes clear.
And then you will know, okay, what do you need to be focusing on?
Where are you in the Lord right now?
You know?
And so which teaching do you need to go to whatever?
Um, when we stop trying to figure it out and we choose who he is and who we are
instead, all of a sudden, what it is that, how it is that we should live from that
place becomes clear as opposed to us not realizing and recognizing and acknowledging
that we're in that place.
And then we're trying to figure stuff out on our own in our flesh.
But if you do it from the place of who it is that you are in spirit, who it is that
you are as a new man, you and the Lord are always in union.
You and the Lord are always connected.
There's always flow.
There's always connection.
Now there's always relationship.
There's always, um, uh, your will and your opinions being expressed and his will and
his opinions are being expressed in your will and his will and his heart and your
heart are co-mingling and you're developing relationship.
So.
With, so that being the case, in other words, all of the restraints and
limitations and boundaries broken off, you're just in this glorious, you know,
a state of being, I don't mean that you always feel this way, but if you choose
that, that is where it is that you actually exist.
Now live from that place, make decisions from that place, you and the Lord
together, you know, what is it that you want to do?
Where are you moving right now?
What do you feel from him?
Where do you feel his heart as opposed to, okay, what is it that I need to do?
You won't make those.
You won't think like that.
Your mind won't work like that.
When you're in that place, it just naturally works very differently.
It works from a state of you being, as opposed to you being disassociated
from your state of being, then you feel you need to do, then it shifts into the
doing because you're disconnected and disassociated from your being, meaning
like just existing and just enjoying.
That the, the, the goodness, the limitlessness, the boundary listeners
of God and, and his goodness and you and who he's created you to be anyway.
So I know that that probably feels very vague and very ethereal, but that is
the, that is the foundation of the answer.
Then, um, as far as like specifically, um, uh, the, I mean, you know, if you're
just, you know, which I know.
This is not your question, so I'm gonna,
but you can sense wherever it is
that the Lord wants you to go in that.
What I would, well, nevermind, nevermind.
I don't even wanna tell you what I would recommend.
I would just suggest that you just do that
between you and the Lord.
You're gonna feel more confident in it,
more free in it if you don't even hear an opinion
of what I think would help.
So anyway, is that helpful?
Okay.
That's super helpful.
Yeah, so remember, wake up every morning
like what we talked a few weeks ago.
I think you were, it was on a fireside chat
or a rest group or something that don't,
you're no longer required when you wake up
to pick up that backpack full of rocks.
You just wake up and how do you wanna live offensively?
Meaning like taking charge of your own life,
choosing yourself, what do you wanna do?
What do you wanna create from it?
You get to be the creator, you're not the victim.
You're not the victim of what life is throwing at you.
Yes, you do need to, there will be ways
in which you need to, ways in the opportunities
you're given of responding to certain things
that come around and that come along,
the stuff with the lawsuit that you're dealing with
and stuff with your ex-husband
just stuff that comes up, stuff that,
but it doesn't leave you in a bit,
even in that situation, just because you're responding
doesn't mean that you are a victim
and that this situation in which you have an opportunity
to respond doesn't mean that you're being forced
into a situation.
That's where we get this victim mentality.
We think, oh my goodness, I'm now forced
to face something I don't wanna face.
Instead view it like, okay, this is a situation,
how do I want to move forward in my life?
Positively, meaning like not positive as in like negative,
but positive as in like moving forward,
like forward progression, like as opposed to retraction
or lack or fear or stagnation.
Just like, where do I wanna, how do I wanna live?
What do I want out of life?
Well, I want joy and I want peace.
And okay, so he's brought up a new little, a new snag.
Okay, well, what do I wanna do?
Well, I wanna work this out with my lawyer
as opposed to, oh my word, now I have to look what he did
and now this is the situation that I'm in
and now I have to call my lawyer.
Now I have to do this and now I have to do that.
If we do it from that perspective,
then we believe that we're a victim
and then everything feels hard.
All of the tasks that are up there just feel,
they feel a lot heavier than they really are
because we're approaching them from the perspective of,
I didn't want to do this and so-and-so was making me.
You know, the fact that so-and-so did this,
now they're making me do it, you know?
And that's just not the case.
You are in control of your life, they aren't.
And their actions don't control you, you know, whatever.
You get to choose, okay, this is the situation that I'm in.
You're not being forced to make any decision.
So since you're not being forced to make any decision,
but you're in this situation,
what decision do you want to make?
How do you want to move your life forward?
Do you want to move it forward
with this decision in the situation or with this one?
As opposed to, I have to make a decision
and I don't want to do either,
but I guess it's the lesser of two evils.
That's not taking charge of you
and you making a decision offensively,
what do I want to do?
I want to call my lawyer
as opposed to I have to call my lawyer.
No, no, no, this is what I want.
This is the situation, this is the best scenario.
Does that make sense?
Yeah.
Yeah, and that's good.
Like it hits on some of what the Lord was revealing,
you know, just even in the past week about
when you've been in a situation where,
I don't know, we could call it trauma
or we could call it abuse or whatever it is.
It is so easy to get into that mindset
and then kind of like stay stuck there,
especially when like, if it's like a recurring thing
where you're like, oh my gosh, here we go again.
You know, like, oh, I thought we were past this.
Oh, this is going to re like trigger all this.
Why, you know, now we have to spend thousands of dollars.
We don't have now, you know,
like all these kinds of things
that you could say are true in a way,
but the perspective does keep you in that victim place
and makes you powerless or feel powerless when you're not.
So that's really been one of the things
that he's been revealing to me has been
that recently that there's a victim mentality
that he wants me to break out of
because I'm not a victim anymore, you know?
So yeah, yeah.
Good timing on that.
Really helpful for you to just explain like that stance,
you know, the difference of how we come at it.
And I've been using the.
terms like I get to, and trying to remember, you know, continually
kind of remember that instead of like, I have to do this, and I
have to do that. And I have to, like, I get to do this, or I'm
going to do, you know, just that simple, like changing that
phrase is like a stepping stone toward being victorious and
being like owning my decisions, owning my life and being
powerful, and getting my power back, which is the best thing
you can do, I think, as a victim, you know, or someone
who's a survivor or whatever. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Um, am I
frozen? Yes. All of y'all are frozen to shoot. I wish there
was a way because I can't even move my mouse. I was going to
see if Oh, maybe I can now. I was gonna see No, I can't. If
maybe it's my display. Oh, no. I'm afraid. I'm so concerned
that if I get out of this, can y'all still hear me? No. Wow.
Yes, we can.
Okay, good. I don't know what is going on with my display. But it
won't even let me move my mouse. So I can't make somebody else
the host. Shoot. Let's see here. Let me try a few things. Okay,
if, if I lose y'all, and it accidentally ends the meeting,
y'all stay on if you can, but if it ends the meeting, then just
get back into it. Okay. So because like,
now we lost audio.
Hey, Chris.
So interesting. It must be the rainstorm or something. Maybe
she can join with her phone. Yeah.
Casey, how are you feeling? I was on mute. I did say hi to you
Rita, but I was on mute.
Oh, so was I. I'm doing pretty good. I'm feeling much better
getting regaining my energy. That's good. Oh, yeah.
How are you feeling, Christine?
I'm feeling pretty good. I finished my radiation therapy. I
mean, I had a talk to give to an Indian Bible college. So I got
up at four o'clock this morning. Because the the Christmas
program started at 515 am. But so I'm really tired today. But
other than that, I'm yeah, doing pretty well.
That's good. Yeah, well, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, I think so. You know, after giving a talk, I
always think, oh, I should have said this, you know, I go back
over it. Ashley's talked about that going back over, you know,
things that we we have. Yeah, I did that. I mean, I think it
went well, because two people repeated back what I had said.
So it was, and, and it's interesting, I use things that I
had learned here. And a question Lindsay had asked. I mean, that
like the talk was on about God with us. And we always talk
about, you know, how that affects me, Jesus being with me.
And so I asked, asked myself, and then the question, what does
Christmas, what does God with us mean to God? Like, how does he
feel about being with us? And so that's what I, I talked about.
And, I mean, it's kind of a question I want to keep thinking
about. And, you know, just the fact that he delights in us. And
just before we started now, I, you know, because I was still
feeling Oh, I wonder if that was good. And, but I, the verse, I
don't even know what day it is. But you know, I was talking
about God delighting in us. And I opened Caleb, and it says, you
know, it's Psalm, what is it 3723, the Lord directs the steps
of the godly, he delights in every detail of their lives. And
it just kind of kind of a bit of a confirmation. You know,
you were talking about the right thing, you know, that his delight and how.
But I did it.
You know, the last time I spoke with them,
I had everything written out, and I don't usually do that.
I had a coach and she had a certain way
for me to do it, and I had it all written out this time.
I had Bible verses and things,
but I didn't have it all laid out.
And so I don't know.
I mean, from three people, I got good feedback, but
the pastor who asked me to do it and.
But.
You know, I think I like to do it more freely, you know, like talking to them
and then feel more the freedom of the Holy Spirit to, you know,
but I think it could have been a bit.
You know, I had it organized, but.
I just spoke more to them, I guess, you know.
Sorry to take this off track, Ashley.
No, no, I'm so glad you all continue.
Well, I had to restart my computer.
So that's great.
So you're talking about the first teaching you did.
Yeah, I I spoke at their Christmas program.
It is coin coin.
I can't say that word when any.
Yeah.
Pay to training,
a leadership training institute, and it's based in India, but there's people like
in a Sam and Dubai and England, you know, and, you know, it's pastor.
There's missionaries, students, the faculty.
You know, it was great.
I mean, I just can't believe the opportunity that God has given me.
That's all.
And I just I I mean, they had
singing and dancing and
a couple of skits that were recorded.
And they're just a wonderful group of people.
You know, the.
The pastor I've gotten to know and yeah,
it's just amazing how God links you up with people.
Yeah, yeah.
Well, I'm excited for you that you had that opportunity and you thought
I don't remember four weeks total or six weeks total,
something like that to be able to talk to him.
So that's good.
You'll be able to build manner of speaking almost like a like a relationship with
them, you know, a rapport with them, like, oh, it's Chris.
And she talked about this last time.
And so, you know, they'll be able to like track with you.
And so that's great.
Now, the next I mean, the when I do the four weeks,
that is with a different Bible school.
Oh, OK, the Bible school in Sri Lanka.
But it's connected with these people.
But I won't see all those same people, which.
Yeah. And it'll be translation also because they
I can't remember the name of their language.
Single laser. I can't remember.
But so I'll have a translator.
OK, great interpreter.
I mean, whatever you call it.
Yeah. Yeah.
No, no worries. Yeah.
Well, that's great.
Well, and
yeah, it's hard to do it with the translator, isn't it?
You know, it's like only half the time.
Yeah.
Yeah. It's like I know you don't really think about that.
You're like, oh, I have an hour and a half.
And you're like, no, I've got 45 minutes.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah. So it's a little challenging.
And then for me, it's challenging because the way that I teach,
I teach very similarly to what you were talking about, where it's just like this
free flow, free flow style.
And that means, though, that I have to keep track of what I just said,
what I'm saying and what I'm about to say.
And you can't do a translation because in between every every sentence,
if you're lucky or sometimes every phrase, you've got a translator.
In fact, my translator wanted me to
wanted me to speak in phrases.
And I was like, I can't do
this to do is going to be hard enough to do with it, with the Senate.
So we got a flow.
I just tried to keep everything very short and sustained so she could like
translate without having to she could translate a thought without having
to like and, you know, without it being too long where she forgot what it is that I
said so and so anyway, we but because I thought, well, doing it the way that she
asked, I'm like others, I just can't do that because and even as it was.
as I struggled kind of, if I wasn't careful,
forgetting my thought, you know,
while she was translating.
I'm trying to keep it in my head, you know,
and then sometimes, you know,
I'd lose the flow a little bit.
So anyway, I have to stop and think,
okay, what did I just say?
Where am I?
What am I talking about?
But anyway, but I'm very excited for you.
Yeah, I'm thinking I need to meet with the person
that's going to be translating
just to see what style, you know, how she wants to do it.
And if I can free talk some.
You know?
Oh yeah, yeah.
Yeah, which would be very kind and very thoughtful of you.
That's what, my translator contacted me
because I'd never met them before.
And they said, hey, I don't even go to this church,
but I'm a friend of somebody who goes to the church.
And they knew that I am, I don't remember if she's Canadian.
No, she was American.
And she said, and so I was in Italy.
And so she said that I've been asked to translate for you.
She said, so I have, I've watched one of your videos
about what it is you're going to be talking about.
And this is, but I'm not used to translating.
She's like, I'm married to an Italian.
I've been here 30 years,
but you know, translating is a different animal.
So she's like, I just, you know,
so here's what'll help me and we'll help you.
And anyway, so we've got a little thing down,
but I'm very excited.
You'll have to keep us updated on how it goes.
Yeah, yeah.
I'm excited.
Well, did someone else have a question before,
as our last, probably our last question before we end?
Anyone have anything else?
No, no.
Right.
Okay, I'll go.
If Kate's not going to go, hey.
Okay, everyone just relies on Kate to ask the good questions.
I think that's why everyone comes to the Fireside Chat.
What is, good thing is Kate going to ask
that will be what I need this next week.
You know, I've been sitting on a question,
but I'm like, I didn't know if it pertained to everyone.
So I was like, I'm just going to let everyone keep going.
I'm just like, yeah.
I want to hear what you have, Rita.
Let's, let's, let's find out.
I feel like it's the same thing.
So you can answer quickly, Ashley.
So I've been having trouble sleeping
and I try to tell the Lord like, okay,
I don't need to depend on sleep.
I'm spirit, I don't need it.
But I almost feel desperate for it,
especially after like the second or third day.
And then, you know, I try not to let it affect my day.
And, you know, work is stressful right now.
But I'm not as stressed.
I know that's definitely a, you know, a blessing,
but yeah, the sleep escapes me.
I try to breathe.
I try to not judge anything.
So I don't know.
Yeah.
Well, sometimes it's because emotionally
we're in fight or flight mode.
Even if physically you can't, you wouldn't think that,
oh, I'm, I'm, I don't know.
I don't know.
My heart is beating fast.
Am I, you know, I'm breathing fast.
Even if you can't sense that emotionally,
you can be in fight or flight.
You think something's required of you.
You have to be ready.
You're going to have to like some for kind of similar
to that, well, I don't know, a bunch of things.
For one thing, you know, you've been going,
so much is required of you and you feel the weight
of always having to be ready for the unexpected
all day long so that you don't feel
that you are safe enough, like emotionally, psychologically,
you know, with everything that's going on, you know,
if you, if, if you, to, to disconnect
because something might be required of you,
you need to be ready.
It's a, it's a, it's a habit.
It's a habit in a way of like a habit of like,
of your like psychosis.
And, and then, so there, there's that.
And there was something else I was going to say.
Oh, similar to when we're about to travel,
you know, the next morning, say for instance,
or we have a very important presentation the next morning,
especially if we have to get up at an unusually early hour
for us, we, people have a tendency
to have a hard time sleeping.
Why?
Because they're thinking, yeah, but I've got to get up.
And oh my goodness, what if I don't get, you know,
or hear my alarm and all this anxiety.
My point is all of those things are foundation,
are founded in the fact that we think
that something's expected of us.
And we're, and we're at the ready, all my words,
something's expected.
And, and so what I would recommend is, is on your,
well, a couple of things.
For one to develop a nightly routine of likes and favorite things that you like to do or doing or incorporating some favorite things into the night routine.
So say for instance, you've got to, you've got to do the stuff that we all do before bed.
Like, I don't know if you take a shower before bed.
I do, you know, some people take it in the morning. Technically, actually I take it both times.
I take a warm shower at night. When I get up, I take a cold shower.
That's beside the point. I'm very unusual.
So, but generally, you know, whatever it is that you do, you go to, you go to, you take a shower, you get, you get cozy, you brush your teeth, you, I don't know, get a drink of water.
You take your vitamins, you do, I don't know, whatever it is you do.
There's certain things that you have to do. And sometimes you just, people just don't think that they're fun.
So what I do is I make those things fun by turning on really slow music that I like, like my favorite type of slow music, whether it be slow jazz or it be slow worship or it be slow, I don't know, soaking music.
And then, and then sometimes before I have to like start doing, and so my point is that if I had that on, then while I'm doing the other things, I'm hearing it and it's slowing me down and it's helping me to enjoy at the moment of what it is that I'm doing.
As opposed to trying to, to trying to, to double the, what's that word? It's not accomplishment.
Double the, what you get out of a specific moment, like, okay, I'm brushing my teeth. This is very boring. What else can I do? I can problem solve.
Don't try to problem solve while you're brushing your teeth. Don't try to problem solve while you're in the shower.
Don't try to problem solve while you're going through the nightly retreat. Don't try to get double out of whatever it is you're doing. Enjoy the moment for what it is.
Like learn to just kind of like not require anything else out of the moment other than what you're doing. You're brushing your teeth, but you're being entertained.
So you don't have to be bored, you know, being entertained because you've got this nice music on and so it's filling the house and slowing everything down.
And so, and don't, and use the music as kind of like a beat. I don't mean physically, I don't mean like literally you have to walk to the same cadence, but just generally to create a, to create a tone to slow you down.
You know, if the soaking music is slow, you're going to typically brush your teeth slower.
You're going to typically take a longer shower, that kind of thing, because you're trying to flow a bit, you're trying to match the atmosphere a bit.
And so things like that will help. But then even before you do all of that, or maybe after if you kind of want to get that out of the way, then afterwards do fun things that you really enjoy.
Not anything stimulating, but fun things. In other words, get your body and your mind and your emotions. Look, always looking forward to going to bed because that's when you get to do your favorite things.
You get to read a book for an hour, if you want, or, you know, five minutes, you know, I don't know how long or long you want to do it, but read a book or, and not a nonfiction book where you have to think, not a Christian book where you're trying to like,
you know, you know, learn something else about the Lord. Just a nonfiction, I mean, sorry, a fiction book.
Just or, and I'm just giving you ideas. I'm just telling you like kind of ideas of like kind of how to think so you can make your own decision about the type of things you like to do.
You can watch television, if it doesn't stimulate you and some people it just stimulates. I know some people that actually they have to watch television or YouTube or whatever, in order to start slowing them down.
Um, but some bit scientists say actually that stimulates you and that's not good to go to do before you go to bed, you're not likely to sleep as well.
So to each their own point is just do, I don't do something fun. Sometimes you can eat some of your favorite stuff before you go to bed.
Not too much because then you won't sleep well. But if you do have yourself a little bit and you do a little treat, you know, or you do a little, you do a little nightly tea routine.
If you just love tea, you, um, I don't know, just, just things like that. Don't use it to try to accomplish something and get one squeeze one more accomplishment into the day of like, oh, I'm trying to read, get through this book I'm trying to learn.
So that you, you create your bedtime routine as one of your, you literally create it as, as what you would want your favorite time of day to look like.
And you give yourself that. And I don't know if it's 30 minutes and if that's long enough or if you need an hour.
But the part of the reason for all of that is it focuses the value again on you, not the end that you being you is enough as opposed as, as opposed to where I think that your, your body and emotions in mind currently are, which is, what does everybody
else need? What does my boss need? What does my job need? What does my project need? What does God need? What's being expected? What do I need to be ready for?
on you, so your body feels safe enough to start relaxing your mind, feel safe
enough to start to let go.
That's the whole point of making it pleasant is to create a safe atmosphere
for your, for, um, for your body to not feel like, and your mind to feel like
something's expected of it and something's needed and whatever is, especially at
night, choose you, what do you want?
What feels good?
You know, that kind of thing.
So, yeah, I used to do a lot more of that.
I still do it to an extent.
In fact, there's, it's so, it's kind of so ingrained in me that if I, that I got
to the point where I didn't let myself go to bed unless I had done something.
I really, really liked, like, I mean, I like, I really liked it.
I kind of like, Oh yeah, sure.
No, no, no.
I like really liked it.
Like, Ooh, read that book or watch that, watch that one more
episode or I don't know, whatever.
And, um, so I find myself if I'm going to bed and I haven't done something
immediately before bed that I really like, and I forced myself to go to bed.
I don't go to bed as easily.
I don't sleep as you know, um, I don't, I don't know how to describe that, but,
um, it's, uh, I don't, sorry that the words of words are escaping me.
Um, but, uh, I noticed it.
I noticed that I'm dreading going to bed.
I'm resisting going to bed because there's almost like an aspect of
myself that I haven't honored.
I haven't enjoyed me and you need to be enjoying you when you go to bed.
You nothing else.
I mean, obviously God, but you and God together where he
didn't require anything of you.
You're enough.
You're resting with him.
You're not trying to have a new revelation of how to shift into rest.
You just, you just be, you just, you just, you have faith and you shift
into rest by simply choosing that.
This moment with God is enough and he doesn't need anything.
He likes you as you are that kind of a thing.
And that'll start, I think, um, helping to, uh, slow you down to, um, slow
your body and your mind down and your emotions to let you sleep a bit better.
Does that all make sense?
Yeah, definitely.
Cause I don't feel like I do anything for myself right now.
So yeah, just kind of collapse at home and then I feel tired and I
fall asleep before I get in bed.
But as soon as I get to bed, I'm just like wired.
I don't know.
It's weird, but I think if I did something that I enjoyed me, really.
Yeah, no, it makes sense to.
And the last thing you also said is don't expect any, find a new way to shift.
Don't do that either.
So, yeah, yeah.
Shift into rest by choosing to believe something about God, which is something
easy, um, like enjoying yourself, choosing that you're just enough as opposed to,
oh, okay, I need to stretch into belief.
You know, these good that you sort of know that you're fine, that you and he are fine.
You know, if anything else needs to be dealt with between you and the Lord,
there's tomorrow, but right now you're enough with the Lord.
So thank you.
I appreciate that.
Yeah, you're welcome.
Um, another very interesting observation and I'd never articulated this to myself.
I noticed it, but I'd never quite articulated even to me what I was noticing.
So you are one of the most important people in my life.
So you are wired for that and you're not giving yourself that.
And I know that because that's why you do cozy things.
The odd, the things that all of the rest of us are noticing, you know, you've got
the rope and you have your team, you've got the blanket and you're always in,
you're always creating that environment for yourself physically, but you
won't let yourself go into it.
So you keep, so just FYI, you're wired for it.
You're leaning towards it.
You're wanting it and God wants you to have that.
So just FYI, go let yourself have it.
Does that make sense?
Yes.
You're wired for it.
You're already doing it.
You're trying to give it to yourself without allowing yourself to, um, to
risk, um, what has to be risked in order to give it to yourself.
So if you give yourself all of these physical cozy things, but you don't allow
yourself emotionally to let go.
So you're keeping yourself in a highly vigilant state just so you'll be ready,
but you really do want that time for yourself and that time to enjoy yourself
and that time to, you know, slow down.
So anyway, and I know, and I know that because I know someone else very
close to me, not my husband, but somebody else in my family.
He's very much like that.
Very much like that.
And, um,
It's taken them a long time to learn, to enjoy themselves.
And the more that they've learned to enjoy themselves, the less they have to do all
of the external cozy things that take, that ended up taking up so much of their time
and never, and never rejuvenated or arrested them because they're getting all of the things
that they're needing, that they were trying to use as physical things to create.
They're getting them elsewhere.
So anyway, but yeah, it's, I just was familiar with it.
So anyway, hopefully that's helpful.
Yeah.
Yes.
Thank you.
Yeah.
So if anyone needs to go, you are welcome to, but me personally, I am extremely
curious as to what Kate's question was.
It's actually not really a question.
I don't know.
I don't know what the, I couldn't formulate an actual question.
I, I have been battling crazy anxiety for days and, um, just been like, what is at
the root of all of this?
Like fear.
And I just keep seeing fear of man.
Like I've, the Lord has healed me from so many, there's like levels of fear of man.
It's like, not just like a one and done thing.
And, um, oh, did we lose you?
Oh, no, you're back.
Okay.
Am I back?
Oh, dear.
And so I'm like, I know sometimes when certain situations come up in your life,
it exposes different levels of fear that you may still be hidden.
And you're like, oh, I'm good.
I was just moving along.
Like, like I was really good.
And then all of a sudden the situation came up and it exposed all the, all this
fear and like fear about how the situation is going to play out fear about what people
think fear about, and then I had like literally debilitating anxiety that I was
like, I think I'm going to throw up.
I'm so anxious.
And I don't even, I like couldn't get it under control.
I know it was so wild.
It's been wild.
And I don't, and it's not anything bad that's happened.
It's not like a bad situation.
It was an exciting situation, but it's so much anxiety that it's like, oh my gosh,
what do I, what do I do with this?
And where do I even start to go after this?
Like Rita, so like I wasn't sleeping, I didn't sleep for days.
And so I was like doing all the, like the tea, taking a shower before bed, like
trying all this external, everything I could think of to, to work it out and like,
like work and I'm exhausted, but I'm exhausted in my mind, not in anywhere else.
So that's a lot of vomit for seven, for as late as it is when you're trying to close
off the call and there's really no, you know, just make it stop.
No, that's funny.
Just make it stop.
Somebody, somebody be bright.
That's hilarious.
No, no, no, no.
I completely understand.
I thought that you actually articulated that very well and very concisely, especially
considering how long you've been struggling with it, that it was a very short amount
of time to, to get all of that in.
Um, uh, okay.
So I, I thought of some different things, um, similar to what I was talking about,
um, you know, with Rita is, uh, that I, you know, just recommend that you choose
you as in like, enjoy you.
And also the, the, um, uh, you remember, so kind of think of the anxiety similar.
Okay.
A couple of things with the anxiety, um, that remember that the second tool that I
mentioned is, you know, to just tell your soul and your body to just stop.
And just that you, in other words, that's especially good for situations in which
you don't know why you're anxious and you don't know why you're stressed and you
do, you don't have to have an anchor.
You don't have a pinpoint.
And so you just want to, you just tell it, you know, you shift into you, to who it
is that you are as the new man, and then just telling your soul and your body from
that good kind King who's protective, who provides for it, who is, you know, who
is in the one who's all sustaining and.
And all supporting.
And so you are being in that one, you are now providing that for
that, your soul and your body.
And so you just tell it, you know, from that position that, Hey, you know, I, I
know that you're in a hypervigilant state because you were trying to protect me.
And I appreciate that, you know, so if you're kind towards your, but your soul
and your body, while it's anxious, in other words, loving it and accepting it
for what it is, while it is that thing without emotionally requiring it to
change without requiring you to it, to stop being anxious without, you know,
just like what I talk about, like with losing weight, without requiring it to
leave.
um, to stop being, um, anxious, uh, or anything and to, that you just love and
accept it exactly the way it is.
And you want to keep it meaning like not keep the anxiety, but keep the
soul and keep that body and you love it.
And you think it's valuable and you treasure it and you, and you think
it's significant and all of that.
Um, then, uh, then it will, then from that position, you can tell it, um, you
know, Hey, look, whatever it is.
I'm now, whatever it is that's triggering you.
I'm now here to protect you and you no longer have to exert all
of your energy doing this.
You can let it go.
And so whatever it is you're doing, whatever it is, that's keeping you
anxious, whatever it is that's making you stressed, stop and just let it go.
You know, you tell, you tell your soul and your body that, and then even if it
doesn't, you love it and accept it.
Anyway, instead of fighting yourself and thinking, I shouldn't be like this.
I should be different.
Remember, which is the second tool, which is the no judgment or sorry.
The third tool, which is the no judgment, the one right after stop.
It's like, it shouldn't be like this.
It should be different.
Nope.
Just allow it to be what it is.
And then, um, and because we actually are creating the resistance to
letting the thing go by fighting it.
We're actually creating more resistance.
So just allow it to be, allow it to exist, but don't honor it.
Don't, I mean, you can honor your soul and your body, but you
don't honor the anxiety, you know, just like, Oh, just whatever.
You know, just allow your soul and your body.
That's the state it wants to be in.
Okay.
But you know what, while you're doing that, I'm going to go do, I'm going to go be me.
I can go do something else.
As weird as it sounds, you just kind of let it be all right.
And you don't ever want to disassociate from yourself, disassociate from your
soul or your body, because you're like, I really don't like the environment,
the ugly negative environment that it's creating for the three of us.
We don't want to disassociate.
So, but we choose that we are spirit as opposed to solar body.
That's victim and that's scared.
And that's whatever, and choose that you're different instead.
Anyway, those are some ideas of how to interact with it without actually
knowing what is, is triggering you.
Like I said, you could do the stop.
You can do the no judgment, but those are things to do like in moments.
But as far as like the ongoing thing, choose to love and receive and accept
yourself as you are, meaning those parts of you as you are without emotionally
requiring you to change or ever get out of this, and that will make it feel
safe enough to finally let go because it's thinking that it's threatened.
So if you act and choose that you're not threatened, it'll eventually realize,
Oh, I guess we really aren't threatened.
And then it'll stop.
So anyway, okay, we're good.
All right.
Well, I will, um, let everyone go and, um, I will see everyone on Sunday.
And so, um, don't forget y'all's, uh, journey shares to update the rest of us
on like any struggles or any, um, any victories, you know, that you've been
having, you know, between you and the Lord, you know, um, I don't know.
It could be like, Oh my goodness.
Things are just lighter these days, or I saw him manifest in this
particular way or whatever.
So love to get to hear from everyone and I will talk to y'all later.
Bye.