Okay. Okay, come say hi to Ashley. Hey Ashley I'm sorry I haven't even said hi to you. Okay
Wait, wait, this camera is hello. Okay. Can I flip it? Will that work on Zoom?
Uh, yeah.
Did it work?
Well hello everybody we don't have like an evening out or something.
Yeah, we did a little Oh Kim's birthday was this was this week was yesterday. So we all went dancing with her downtown so yeah we're checking out.
That's great.
Is it great seeing you. Yes, it's so good to see you.
Good, good, good.
It's been a long time since we had our rest session so congratulations. Yes, yes.
Thank you so much. I appreciate it. We're here in Dallas. Now, we're here north of McKinney.
We just hear about like three weeks ago. So yeah, yeah so maybe we'll all officially get to meet in person one day.
Yeah, sounds good.
Bye guys.
So we have found a quiet location, but a group was in this other coveted spot. And I was like, I just saw them pass by me and leave and so I was like, I'm going there, because it's gorgeous like wait wait wait.
Oh, hey, isn't it pretty like out of my camera is like, really, hold on.
It's gorgeous I don't think you can fully see it because my camera so it's, it's because as zoom has the blurry background on the person to focus on.
There we go.
Yes. Oh, gorgeous.
Are y'all on like six street and in Fort Worth or think is second street. Yeah, it's second street it's the, the Worthington Renaissance, I love my husband I love Renaissance hotel so they're always so nice.
I'm sorry I'm flipping you back.
You're fine.
Okay, cool.
I'm glad this worked out.
Thank you.
Well that's so much fun I didn't know y'all were getting together to do that y'all are always really great to be so intentional about doing stuff like that together.
I'm going to try and Kim is definitely the planner of the bunch so she's really good about putting things on the calendar.
Rita's pretty good about that too, but yeah.
So, yeah, how have you been today, I'm not good at that.
So everyone needs a planner in the group to like actually actually make everything happen, you know, so, but yes thank you I'm doing really good here by myself this morning my husband went to the gym, which is very late for him because normally they'll go
at like 445, or, or, yeah, and then sometimes they'll go at like three or 330, but today they decided oh we'll go it.
Nine. Nine. Yeah, it was nine and so it's like that is such an odd.
So, I don't know. Anyway, that's when they decided to go, and I don't know what they're working on today but that he loves working out and it makes them happy you know getting his body back to feeling like he like he likes to feel and so anyway, he didn't
have, he didn't have buddies at where we were that enjoyed the kind of workouts that he enjoys because he likes.
He likes workouts that like really bulk up, as opposed to, oh, just trying to stay in shape or whatever. He's not a bodybuilder or power lifter, but he does some of those exercises so he doesn't go to the extreme that you have to go to in order to, to do that
He doesn't enjoy that but he does enjoy like doing some of the same exercises to get, you know, to give them some strength and all of that. So anyway, he's happy doing that with my friend's husband.
And so they're buddying up and doing their, their little thing.
So anyway, how have you been, since we saw you a few days ago with Ed and the personal
ministry session.
I know that was so good.
I just want to thank y'all once again, like, I'm just like, Oh, for joy.
It's great.
Um, so yeah, um, I feel like, you know, been really good in that, like my relationship
with me and God were really good, you know, storms come here and there, but I know how
to like ride, ride the waves, you know, so to speak, um, and they focused on, on God.
Um, so that's been great.
I guess one particular testimony, that's something that's new is I just started asking God, like,
Lord, help me to like order my day, um, and just be spirit led in that.
And I just see him like putting everything, like it just is just seamless throughout the
course of the day, um, and kind of recognizing when he's nudging me to like move on to the
next thing.
And, um, it's been really good.
Um, so yeah, it's a special thing to ask him for, you know, it should just be spirit led
through the day.
Yeah.
Thank you.
Yeah.
So yeah, that's good.
I'm sorry.
I'm pouring my tea.
Oh no, you're fine.
What kind of tea drinker are you?
Um, loose leaf.
I'm very serious about my tea.
Flavor?
Uh, well, my favorites are usually black teas, but I have come to appreciate green teas.
So I have several of those that are really good.
Um, yeah, my favorites is usually Earl Grey cream, um, is my hands down my favorite tea.
And then this tea that I'm drinking, I'm trying to figure out where it is, oh, this tea that
I'm drinking today is, uh, my mother-in-law Ed's mom went to Iceland back in January and
she knew I liked tea.
So she brought me back Icelandic tea.
Now, what that means is they have to import it, obviously.
So we like, we all do.
We all have to import it from the countries that actually grow tea bushes, but then they've
added with it Icelandic moss and it is really good.
I thought when I saw it, I was like, I don't know about that.
Is it going to taste grassy because I historically have not liked any, any kind of teas that
tastes like grass.
Um, even though those are considered the healthy teas and all of that, but I'm telling you
what, I love this tea.
I'm going to be so sad when it's gone, but anyway, so that's what I'm drinking today.
And I have no idea how to pronounce it.
It's F J A L L A G R A.
So who knows how you pronounce F J. It's, I think that that is Fjord.
You know, like if it's F J O R D, like those waterways in like Norway or whatever.
So maybe this is, um, Fjallagra, Fjallagra, I don't know.
You can ask Renata and Annette, like, okay, send me a voice note, how do you pronounce
this?
Right?
I hadn't thought about that.
You're right.
I love that I got to meet you and, um, briefly Renata and, uh, Annette, just because I don't
know.
I've always been fascinated with like that part of the world.
I just think it's so cool.
Yeah.
I think it's neat as well.
It's, it's my, um, it's on my bucket list, sorry, I'm hearing something moving around.
Um, it's on my bucket list to go see, uh, Norway, um, at some time.
So I've just heard that, that, that the landscape and the, and the waterways are just breathtaking.
So anyway, and I'm sorry and, and, um, disappointed that it didn't work out for us to all get
together like the whole international group, but, um, uh, you know, with, with the international
group on a Saturday or whatever, but with me moving, I couldn't find a Saturday that
I could get to try to coordinate everyone.
So, so anyway, ended up just that it's like, oh, well, but, um, I'm glad that y'all got
to see each other's like recordings so that y'all can keep up with, with what each other
was doing.
So anyway.
It's great.
Yes.
Cool.
So what have you thought of, I think you said that there were some things that you thought
of that you'd wanted to bring up on Thursday that you wanted to bring, uh, us to talk about
today.
Do you know, do you remember which things that those were?
Um, I think just one in regards to one, and we can talk, I don't know if we don't get
to both.
It's fine.
I guess I have to prioritize.
So it was like, one is about how do you, it's more about like timing, just understanding
God's timing.
And I don't know if you could just give me some insight just in your personal walk, like
what are some of those things.
And I guess the other one is, oh, one of the videos that I didn't get to see from on yours was about spiritual warfare. And no, I know just from some things that we've done that, and that I've learned from Kim, that, you know, everything is from a place
of rest and I personally experienced where things like God can just change things in a moment. But I do feel like, like even after that personal ministry time, I just felt led to like really pray in the spirit and it was just, it felt like
it was, it was definitely more warfare, you know, but I do, I kind of understand where it came from it came, it wasn't from striving, it was definitely from a place of rest.
And so maybe just more context and revelation and you have that you might have like surrounding that, you know, so either of those two subjects would be great.
If that. Yeah.
Okay, well we can start with this spiritual warfare if you'd like, just simply because I don't all need a little more explanation about what you mean by like timing so.
So for the spiritual warfare.
That is, it's, it's really easy. It's basically the idea that we, we, we do battle but we battle from rest. So, everything that we do.
See God talks about battling and whatever so we're so we keep thinking okay well it's either rest or it's battle. No, it's actually we're battling from rest, which is a totally different type of battle.
that we could battle spiritual warfare in rest or without of rest so that out of rest is where is what you and I are typically used to, and that we've been that we've been educated in in the church or whatever and that is remember spirit, soul and body so in the spirit
realm I mean sorry in the soul realm. That's a bit more about where like we've got where it's more spiritual warfare.
The soul realm is in relationship to you. The fact that you are thinking you're in your soul, or you are thinking that your identity is in your body. It's not where the Satan and the evil spirits are living they're not living in the soul realm.
Now, well I say that it does say that, that, that the that the angels were you know the fallen angels were kicked out of heaven into the second heaven. So it did say that, so maybe they are kind of down there because they were like kind of kicked out but the
point is like, I don't want things to get confusing because it's still the spirit realm, like meaning like their spirit beings, you know, just like, just like I'm angels are, or at least that's what I understand meaning like the essence of them is, is their,
their spirit beings, and that's why we're battling spiritual warfare because it all has to do with that realm, I could be wrong so don't like hang your head on the whole idea of theology but it's just that kind of idea point is regardless of whether or not it's
the way I just described about like oh let's be Romans spiritual warfare and whatever we all call it that. So anytime you hear anybody talking about like battling and whatever we all talk about battling in the spirit.
It's it's terminology that we all understand that's how we all refer to it so that's what I'm saying is so when I'm talking about the soul and the soul realm.
I'm saying that that is, it's, it's when we're battling from a place where that's our identity, or I did that, that, that everything is hard that we're having to fight that we're not who God says that we are we're not being seated in Christ.
When we're battling the evil spirits from that place we're battling things that are coming against us we're battling lies we're battling Satan we're battling whatever.
When we're doing it from the place that we believe that our identity is in our soul, it's a lot harder. Why, because we have no authority down there we have no authority over him down there.
We do in spirit, but we don't down here, we don't if we think our identity is down here so down here the only the only way that we have to possibly beat him is by following the same rules of war that God set up, and that the devil's following.
And so the same rules of engagement and everything and therefore whoever knows the rules the best, and whoever's the strongest wins. Okay.
And he usually knows them better than we do.
Now, if we do go through deliverance ministry training and if we do, you know, all this other types of trainings.
And we try to remember all these laws and spiritual laws and rules and ways that it works and okay well if you do this and if you say this well then he has to come out and do that.
Well, that's fine, and it works because.
God created those laws, but just like physical laws, they, they, you have to
kind of know them in order to follow them in order for them to be effective.
So you can get the result you want and relying on knowledge.
So you're condemned.
If you don't know how to fight back, you're condemned.
If you don't know, in other words, so we're dependent again on knowledge as
opposed to dependent on, and just resting in who we are, which is seated
in Christ and all power and authority has been put under his feet.
So therefore, if we're in him, all power and authority has been put under our feet.
Meaning everything's been put under us, except for it says God, the father.
So that even means that the devil and his minions, they're
literally all under our feet.
So if you battle from rest, if you battle from there, from your spirit,
remembering who you are, that's the only way it'll work.
You have to remember who you are.
You have to choose that.
That's who you are.
You can't just hope in wishful thinking.
That's who you are.
It won't work because they'll, the demons will come back at you and
say, look, we don't know who you are.
We know who Jesus is.
We know who Paul is.
We have never heard of you, but if you're up here, then like, okay, you're
speaking with the authority of Christ.
We know who that is.
That's why the seven sons of Sceva got the, the, the, um, the pushback that
they did because they were casting people out in Jesus's name, they could do that.
But, um, but when the, but then they came to these really strong demons and they
said, Hey, look, we know who Jesus is.
You're trying to use his name and you're trying to use Paul's name.
And we know who they are.
We don't know who you are because they were pulling on his name, but they
themselves weren't placing them up here.
It's placing themselves up here and battling from that place.
And so they're like, you have no authority.
And they went after him and it says that they actually physically messed them up.
So anyway, the thing is it's, it's who we are that has power over them.
So they don't.
It's so fun.
If you think about it, if they're under our feet, it's really not a battle.
The battles already been won.
It's kind of like, Hey, look, I'm over you this, this, um, uh, therefore you
can't threaten me and I'm just telling you who I am, who that came on fast.
I'll say, and, uh, so, you know, you know, who it is that I am.
And you, according to the laws that God had put in place, have to honor that.
I got away for something.
Um, so you have to, you have to honor that.
And we're like, okay.
But when we're down here battling them, we can't call on who we are
because we're not believing that's who we are.
That's not where we're operating from.
So down here, it's just, Hey, look, you can't do that.
You don't have the right.
And the devil's like the heck I do.
And it's like, no, you don't.
And you know, yeah, I do.
Cause I know the laws and according to the laws, you've done this and you've
done that and therefore did that.
And I'm like, oh my goodness, that may be true because it is a lot.
And, you know, and we're battling in the same, um, using the same rule book
that say we have the equal power, so to speak down there, and then
you just have to Duke it out.
Who knows the rules of engagement the best and who knows how to use
them to their advantage the best.
So that, uh, that spiritual warfare from rest, doing it from remembering who you
are, um, there is a story that, uh, uh, Chris Blackaby, uh, tells about a lady
who heard, who actually has a big deliverance ministry.
He, I don't know who this lady is, but he says she has a big deliverance ministry.
She's written all of these books and everything.
And she was in one of his, his, um, teachings one time where he was
talking about, you know, the, the, the realms and, you know, and who it is
that we are in Christ and all of that.
And that, uh, we're seated in heavenly places and we're seated in Christ and
therefore all power and authority is being put under his feet.
So therefore it's under ours.
And she's like, okay, well that, so her husband apparently was with her that
night they went to bed and she was woken up by this horrible, uh, like
evil spirit that appeared to her, like this horrible hag of an old
woman and appeared in a room.
So she jumps out of bed and she was like, oh, I know how to deal with this.
And she starts battling with the spiritual warfare that she's learned
all the laws and rules that she's learned that God had put into place.
All of that.
And all the ones that she'd written books about and whatever.
And all of a sudden her husband says, sweetheart, remember what we learned
today, who said, remember who you are.
She's like, oh, that's right.
And all of a sudden the demon or witch or whatever it was disappeared
because it realized, oh, it's because all it needed to, all it needed.
that in order to be overcome,
was for her to remember who she was.
She didn't even tell it who she was.
She didn't like, you know, present herself as like,
hey, I'm confronting you.
She just remembered and the thing disappeared.
So anyway, it's that whenever we battle,
it's important and it's easier to battle
from a place of rest.
Remember where, and then the way to do that is
whenever you're feeling attacked or whatever,
just remember who it is that you are.
And then, and that you're unified with Christ
and that you're not able to be threatened.
Like who it is that you are can't be touched.
That's what I'm saying about threatened.
By threatened, I don't mean that someone
and that Satan or whatever can't like try to attack you
and like try to come at you.
It can still try, but it can't touch you.
It can't change you.
It can't affect you.
That's what I'm saying.
There's no real threat.
So if anyone comes to try to attack you,
but there's no possibility of you actually being hurt
or like changed or corrupted or, you know, overcome,
if there's no hope of that, if it's literally impossible,
then literally you're not under threat
because under threat requires that there be a possibility
that you be overcome.
So that's why I'm saying
that's why you're really not under threat,
even if you're attacked, if you're from a place of rest,
because it can come at you all at once.
And it might even like bother you in your soul
or in your body, but who you are cannot be touched.
So therefore you're not under threat.
You're being come after, but you're not under threat
because it can't actually do anything.
So you remember that that's true.
You remember that that's who you are
and you focus more on the Lord,
not so much on Satan and whatever it's doing.
And I'm telling you what,
it will, that will just fight your battle for you
because, you know, it's just,
it's just the way that God set things up
where it honors and acknowledges who it is that you are.
And it realizes, oh, well, I can't do anything.
And if you should ever need to,
because maybe you just get tired of the attacks, you know,
or maybe your faith is only so strong.
You're like, okay, well, I can remember who I am,
you know, like this for a bit, but you know,
what's the, what if it's going to catch me again
and come against me in a weak moment?
You can turn and you can rebuke it.
And you can, you know, again, though,
from the place of knowing who it is that you are
and from the, from the authority of that place,
speaking from the authority of that place,
you can rebuke it, but there's no need to battle it
as if you expect that it might not listen to you.
It has to be from a place of like, no, I know the law.
I know that I am actually ruling over everything
under my feet.
And therefore this is what I'm declaring is going to happen.
And therefore it will, you know,
not any of this wishful thinking.
I hope I'm pulling on the right laws of God
and that this will work in my favor.
That won't do it because it's not authority,
that's hope, you know, and a king can't rule by hope.
He has to rule, you know, by law.
So that's, so that's that.
Does that make sense?
Yes, it does.
That's really good.
I'm looking forward to walking that out more.
I felt like I had definitely like a piece of that.
This week, like speaking from authority,
I think that that needs to happen more.
You know what I mean?
Because yeah, I do, you know,
some things I do feel like, dude, like I'm under attack,
you know, and then when I did do that though,
hold on one second, I'm sorry.
My, can you see me?
Oh no.
Oh, okay.
All right, my timer went off for checking the mail
that I have because I'm not a good mail check.
So I did see change, you know,
and I was speaking from a place of authority.
I just need to enact that and utilize that more.
Cause you know, sometimes in your lives,
you're like, oh Lord, I made this choice.
I'm in this situation, like what's really going on,
you know, and I think that's the next call.
He's like daughter walking your authority
and then everything is gonna work its way out.
So, okay, that's really good.
Thank you.
I'm really excited about that.
So if you can explain to me what you meant by time
or timing or something, what were you meaning?
Yeah.
Okay.
So, you know, with the business thing,
like I'm trying to figure it out.
I definitely have opened my hands and arms like,
okay, Lori, whenever you say fit.
And I don't know, I just really,
I think it's, I'm trying to understand,
like how do I know?
when to launch out on something or when it's not the right timing.
And like, if I talk about it, I'm like, okay, I do kind of like, I know what the
spirit of God feels like.
I know what he's nudging me, but it's also, sometimes it's like when you, it's
that whole co-creation process.
Sometimes it's kind of like, when is it okay for me just to be initiating, you
know, and like, and I'm like, is he going to back me up on it?
It's kind of that type of thing, you know?
Yeah.
Okay.
Got it.
All right.
Yes.
And so there is a way to do that.
Um, you, the, and if it's helpful, um, it, it, you know, if you decide, you
know, I'll, I'll explain this all to you.
And if you decide where you want more or whatever, there is a, a series that I
have, um, that's able to be rented from, um, on my website called I think
desires and decisions, and it's about the godliness of our desires and how
to actually step out in them and decisions.
So with the will of God, like, how do you do it when you're trying to hear
what God wants you to do and know whether or not what you want to do is what is
God's will, um, and then how to step out in it, um, while doing it with God, as
opposed to going out on our own and just checking in with him and making sure
he's okay with it.
So, so anyway, so I have a longer one and I, and the reason I mentioned that
one is we just only have so much time.
So I'll go over some stuff, but if you want to know, uh, no more where I like,
kind of like explain things a little more thoroughly that maybe certain
things might resonate with you.
That's a, I think it's a two hour series.
It might be.
I'm wondering if it's like four, anyway, it's two or four, it mentions
it on the website, how many hours it is point is it's therefore with that much
time, I can go into it a bit more thoroughly and kind of like, you know,
I explained the same thing from multiple angles, so it can really get a good
picture of it and be like, oh, this is what she's talking about as opposed to,
oh, this is the formula because.
It's important that everyone know that when, that when you're approaching
something and trying to do it in with, uh, with the Lord, that, you know, really
what it is that's going on and what it is that, uh, so that you can know in a
moment how to follow the Lord in it, especially if it's not, if it's, um, if
it's looks a little different every time, you need to be able to figure that out
because life isn't life isn't a formula.
We try to use formulas to move through life and life isn't a formula.
It doesn't work like that.
It doesn't always look the same way or react the same way to us every time.
So we kind of need to know what's going on so that we can know how to actually
approach it from the way that God intends us to, as opposed to, oh, well, what can I
do to plug and play because that won't always work.
Um, so anyway, cause again, the whole point is we're trying to learn to not
rely as much on knowledge and learn to rely on living out of relationship
with God himself through life, you know?
So anyway, just FYI.
And so there's that if you need it.
So, uh, that being said, so, uh, um, the, uh, now were you talking about
knowing whether or not your, your desires are from God, was
that kind of part of it or not?
I'm trying to, I'm trying to figure out how far I should go.
Like, okay.
Yeah.
Um, okay.
For this particular one that I'm talking about, I do feel, I feel like it is
definitely a desire that God has placed in my heart, you know, but I don't know
if I know that, I don't know if I know that for other things, you know?
So I guess it is twofold.
Yeah.
Okay.
So one of the things that you can do is I always just check in with the
Lord, um, throughout the entire process.
So like, if I have a desire, I checked in with the Lord about that.
And one of the ways that I do that is sure.
You can ask the Lord point blank.
But in addition to that, you just really reach out with your spirit.
Like, okay, Lord, what am I, what am I sensing?
Am I sensing life on it?
Meaning the life of the spirit, not, oh, I'm getting excited.
That's in our soul.
Are we feeling life in the spirit on it, you know, and, um, and
then, or am I feeling freedom?
In other words, am I feeling when I, this is how I always kind of like picture it.
When I'm, um, kind of looking at something in this, in the spirit, not that I can
like act, I don't know how to describe it, but anyway, when I'm looking at something
in the spirit and I'm kind of like sensing into it, like this desire of mine over
here versus not doing it over here, like if I thinking about doing it and sensing
it in the spirit, just like.
Do I feel it open or do I feel it locked down and shuts?
Like, do I feel like this?
If I'm looking into the future, I don't mean picturing what
my life could look like.
I don't mean that.
I mean, you're taking, so, uh, I don't know.
This is just how I do it.
I take that desire and then I just kind of feel into that
desire into the future.
And I just kind of like project, okay, that desires in the future.
Do I feel an openness there or does it feel like things are locked down?
Do I feel heavy?
Does it feel dark?
Not dark is in mystery.
And I don't know, you know, what the future is going to look like.
Not that, but dark is in like heavy, you know?
So that's what I mean.
Does it feel closed, restricted, locked down, or does it, um, very
different than, oh, well, I just don't know what's going to happen.
We're not talking about that.
We're talking about just like, I don't know, do I feel no movement?
Or do I feel like it's this open field of possibility?
And like, I still feel light when I look in and I project
it kind of into the future.
Do I still feel light, you know, in the spirit, you know, or, or do I not?
Um, and the way that you can do that and figuring out, okay, soul versus
the, your, what is your feeling in the soul?
There's what it is you're feeling in the spirit.
You remember, let your soul have it say first.
So all the reasons why you're scared and all the way to let it have it say
so that it'll be quiet while you're trying to hear from, um, hear your
spirit, because if you try to hear your spirit first while your soul, while
you haven't acknowledged your soul and what it is that I didn't know that
you're afraid of, or what you really, really want to do and what you really
hope God is going to say and whatever.
Um, by the way, I wouldn't focus on what you want.
God, what, when you're asking your soul, what it is that, that, um,
you're letting your soul have it say, I wouldn't focus on asking your
question, your soul questions like, okay, well, what do you want?
God, what do you hope that God's going to say?
Because again, what we're trying to do is we're trying to acknowledge who it is
that you are and what it is that you want.
Um, so that you can hear what God really wants you to do more clearly, because
what we're trying to do is we're trying to release our stranglehold on, on
emotionally obligating God to what we hope that he's going to say.
So I try to leave that factor out of it of like, what, what do you want God to
say, whatever, just because then it gets me focusing on it.
And my whole point is to start or to start releasing God from, from having to
give me this answer instead of this one, because I really want to know, sure.
I want him to do, I really hope that I get to do this one, but what is it
that I desire more, I desire more to do what he wants me to do.
So I'm trying to release what it is that I release him from what I'm wanting to do.
That's what I'm trying to do.
So anyway, my point is just focus on how you feel.
Do you want this?
Do you not want this?
Are you afraid of it?
You know, are, are you concerned, you know, about, I don't know, you know, how
long it could take or the fact that there, the, the road might be fraught
with all kinds of, you know, and the journey might be fraught with all kinds
of like issues and, and obstacles.
And, and oh my goodness, what would my parents think?
And oh my goodness, what would my friends think?
And I don't know, whatever.
So you just kind of go through all of that and then you can sense a bit more.
Okay.
So after it's had its say, it'll calm down and it'll be quiet.
And then you sense into that other part of you, the spirit, just like, okay,
you're looking into, you're looking into the, into more of like a heavenly realm.
And like this, okay, this realm of like possibility of like, God is bigger.
The world is bigger, you know?
And so if you sense into the desire into the future, what are you feeling?
Are you feeling locked down or are you feeling freedom?
That is a bit more about how I kind of like follow the Lord,
trying to discern the Lord's will.
If he's not saying thus sayeth the Lord do this, if he's not, you know,
extremely clear, then I just look for openness.
I look for freedom.
I look for, you know, in the spirit.
I look for, you know, light and life and fire and, you know, that kind of a thing.
So anyway, that's how I do that.
And then that, then you do that basically every step of the way.
So if you move in whichever direction that you feel there's freedom, including
the timing, cause now you're like, okay, that's the, what, so you can go through
all that, what, where, when, how, whatever you go through each of those questions.
You know, the reporter questions, you know, I don't even remember what those
are called, but the five W's and the H or whatever, you know, I don't remember.
Journalism.
So you go kind of go through those and you just kind of do
this process with, with yourself, you know, obviously, you know.
have the Lord there, but the thing is your, your thing is that you're focused,
you're, you're trying to acknowledge your soul.
And then you're trying to discern what is your spirit sensing your
spirit, that's one with God, because you're trying to hear what the Lord
wants, your spirit is one with God.
It's hearing God, what is your spirit hearing from God?
That's what you're trying to figure out.
So God's in it, but you're not so, and he's there with you.
So I'm not talking about like separate from him and go do this exercise.
He's with you, but remember you're spending your time focusing on giving
your soul acknowledgement with God, you know, that, Hey, look, you are okay with
me, you can be just what you are and I'll love and accept you regardless of how
you're feeling all of the fear, all the anger, all the excitement, all the, I
really, really want to do this, all the whatevers, you know, and what is your,
what in your spirit, um, you know, pain, different things don't just pain.
The thing you want to do pain, the thing you don't want to do.
And then also do kind of look, you can also do like a third one.
It'd be like this third unknown, like God's actually trying to try and get your
attention to something you're not even paying attention to, because remember
the only way we can expand in God is to always be moving into something
that is currently an unknown.
He's got to open us into an unknown.
Because I mean, that's, did, did that make sense?
What I was saying?
Because remember if he's bigger than what we are aware of that he is, we
don't know to look for it.
We don't know how to ask for it.
So what that means is in order to finally actually expand into it, we have to be
open to the unknown because we don't know it's there to agree with, to
acknowledge, to want, to ask for, we don't know how to ask the right question.
Cause they say that the key is to always, the key to the right answer
is always asking the right question.
We don't know the question to ask because we don't know where we're at, you know?
So that's my point is like, we have to be vulnerable into the unknown.
Um, because that's how we learn more about God.
We learn things about God.
We had no idea we're true.
So, and how do we know that?
Because we told God, God, I'm open and vulnerable for you to present
to me, whoever it is that you are.
And that's how we learn new things as opposed to God.
I want you to be this.
I want you to be that.
Well, we already know he's those things.
And therefore that's the only thing we know to ask for.
And then you're going to be locked and limited in your relationship with
the Lord, based on what it is, you know?
So if we want to expand into him, we have to be open into this unknown.
So that's why sometimes I, you know, you can ask even feel into a third.
Unknown possibility and see like what you're feeling there.
But anyway, so, um, so because you understand that if God tells you, if
God gives you like a freedom and an openness and a light and a life on this
thing, it does not mean he's telling you that that's what that, what you've
pictured that desire looking like manifested into the earth is really
what's going to happen.
All you know, is that God is giving you freedom to move forward.
So when you never know what you're going to do in taking that next step and
taking on it and taking a journey that starts in that direction, where it's
going to, where you're eventually going to end up, all you know, is
that this is where you can start.
So God's not telling you just because you have this openness and this freedom
that, Hey, God has prophesied.
Therefore, that that's what you will do.
Why I felt an openness and a freedom.
No, you just gave me an openness and a freedom and other words, move forward.
So I move.
So anyway, then you just kind of, you know, you can ask him about the wind.
You do the same process.
And, and when I say that, I'm not trying to say that, you know, cause it took me a
while to kind of like set everything up and explain to you, Oh, you know, your
soul is what your soul's doing.
That's what your spirit's doing.
You're asking about a third thing and whatever, because you can probably think
I'm sure it would take a long time, you know, and you know, for me to really
discern, you don't, I'm just kind of giving you a general idea about like, if
you're running into obstacles, things in trying to understand or figure out what
it is you're thinking, you're feeling or what God's saying, those are ways to
overcome the hurdles, like, Hey, stop and ask your soul.
And so anyway, these are just basically tools in your tool belt that you can use.
And when you're getting stuck and you don't, right.
But, um, so anyway, generally, you know, uh, you will, then you can then ask about
the, um, uh, because for instance, sometimes you will automatically know
that your spirit is feeling an openness towards something and you're like,
okay, then I'm going to move towards this.
And you didn't even ask your soul, you know, because why?
Because she became discerning enough to know how to sense your spirit
without having to quiet your soul.
So this tool that I'm talking about, this is how to, how to really start
figuring out and strengthen, strengthening your discernment.
of what is your spirit saying to you. And so eventually you'll get to the point, you know,
especially with certain things that, Hey, you know, I know that my spirit is, is saying this,
and you haven't even checked in with your soul. At least that's what I do. So, so anyway, the thing
is you can then ask it about the wind. Okay. So openness and freedom, then you ask it about the
wind and you ask it about the how, then you ask about whatever. And, um, and then, and so all that
means though, is you can, is you just tell the Lord, okay, God, I I'm feeling an openness in
this area. I'm feeling that this is you because Lord, I'm really wanting to follow you. I'm
laying down my, what it is that I'm desiring to do. I'm laying that down in order to actually
find your character and where it is currently being manifested in my life. That is what I
am choosing to follow and base my decisions on base. My actions on is where are you? And what
do you look like? Not what do I want to do? And what do I want to create about my life? No God,
where are you? Because I want my life to be created by who your character is and where it's
in and always my life being created by always operating wherever your character is manifesting.
So I'm looking for where you are, where you're operating, where you're moving, where the two of
us, you know, because Lord, you always prepare the way, you know, I'm not always just on the,
I'm not on the front lines, you know, just pushing the border. And then you're, you're,
you know, giving me, you know, accolades you're we're together Lord, but you're always slightly
ahead of me. You always prepare. So where are you preparing? Which direction are you paving the way
for me to come after you? So that's what it is you're looking for. You're looking for,
where's the character of God manifesting in your life? Where is he choosing it to manifest? Right.
So anyway, and then, and so you're like, okay, God, I'm feeling that you're that this is you.
I don't know Lord, but I'm seeking you. And so that's why I'm choosing this decision
because I think that's you. I think that that's where you are. I think that that's where you're
moving. I think that that's what looks like you based off of my relationship with you and what it
is that I've, what I sense about what you taught me about who you are and who I feel when I'm at,
who I feel about what I feel about is true about you when I'm with you, or that is what I'm sensing
here. And you might correct me after I get there and like, you know, sweetheart, that's sweet.
I'm glad that you sought me. But once you stepped out, I'm letting you know, okay, this actually
isn't what I look like and it's fine, you know, you know, so you, but because, but, but I appreciate
and love the fact that you chose it because you thought that was me. So when you do that,
God will provide you with protective environment to make mistakes.
So it's like a, like a kid. So in other words, if you're feeling this openness,
I recommend, you know, and you're asking about the wind and the how, whatever,
then just tell the Lord, Hey Lord, this, I think that this is, this is you. So therefore I'm going
to step out into it. And so you step out into it. So what though, the thing that keeps us from,
and it makes us nervous of stepping out into it is God didn't say point blank that this was his
will. And then we're like, oh, am I going to see if God says it's his will, well, then nothing bad
is going to happen, you know, is what we think. And we think, oh, nothing's bad is going to happen.
And I'm just trying to avoid anything bad happening as a result of, you know, as a
consequence of me stepping out as what we're, that's what we're risking here. We're like,
I don't know if it's God or not. What if it isn't God? And then I'm going to bear all these
consequences and whatever, understand that if you're pursuing, not your own desire,
but where you think, but who you think God is, then he will, even if that's not
exemplary of his character, he will provide you, he will take on the charge of providing
you a protective environment of making mistakes. So you will not bear the,
the full extent of the consequences of your actions. You're not alone. And he will bear
an amount of the weight of the consequences that you created, and you won't have to.
Why? Because you were, you thought that was him, you were pursuing him. So what you were doing was
you were operating within the protect, calling on his protection because you're calling on
calling on the character, his character of protector, because that's what you're pursuing.
You're pursuing his character. So you're calling
on his character to cover you in your action.
That's why he follows up with his character, because that's what you called on.
That's what you admitted yourself vulnerably to was the covering of this character.
So, but, but so that's why even if you get there and so, and you might find all my
word, yeah, I'm still feeling an openness.
I'm still feeling a freedom.
And then you ask about the next step.
Okay, Lord, what should we do next?
So, cause all you're doing is you were just asking the Lord about the next step.
You're not asking God, do you want me to be a, I mean, be a, this and be a, this,
you know, do you want me to do this?
You want me to have this, you may have a business that looks like this.
God doesn't always do that.
So, and sometimes he does.
So I'm not negating that, but what I help people with is when God's not
saying that, what do you do?
So that's what, that's what I'm talking about here.
So it's not negating the fact that God does the other, but, um, I also tell
people though, Hey, look, even if God has told you something point blank, know
that a lot of what it is, you think that looks like is something you created in
your own head of what it looked like and not actually what God said, as I'm going
to be, this, my life will look like this.
No, probably not.
So, so I always tell her, hold it, hold it all very loosely.
So, but anyway, so the point is that going back to the fact that, you know,
you're just, you're just doing this to take that next step.
And then you do this whole thing again in taking the next step.
It's not heavy.
It's not complicated.
It's not this huge thing of like, okay, go through all the five things and ask
God, ask your soul, ask your spirit on every single step.
My point is that are, those are some tools that you can use to move forward
when you're feeling stuck and you've got a lot of questions, but there's a way
in which I don't ask myself all those questions every time I make a decision.
I asked myself some of them, but not all of them.
Why?
Because I've come to know my father enough and me enough that I can sense my
spirit enough to, okay, no, I can go ahead and I can make that step.
I have enough questions answered to know.
I'm just giving you an arsenal of tools of what you can pull on when you're
hitting snags, when you're like, I'm feeling really uncomfortable.
I'm feeling really unsure.
I'm feeling really uncertain.
You can do all this stuff, but you do need to always check in with God through
your spirit, you know, at each step of the way, God, am I still feeling an
openness in the freedom here?
And am I still feeling an openness in the freedom for this, this step here?
Or should I take this step?
You know, and you just, and you keep moving like that and allow yourself
to be moved by the Holy spirit.
The law of attraction will, uh, did you watch the goals one that I had in
business goals?
Yes.
How to follow this.
Yeah.
Okay.
We've got this thing and it's like the whole point is to just, if getting a
goal is just to get a direction to start.
And the law of attraction says, no, you need to hold to that.
You need to manifest it in whatever moment so that you'll be strong and sturdy and
that you'll finally arrive no matter how many things, you know, try to knock you
off the path and like, no, that thing that sometimes knocks you off the path
is the Holy spirit.
Right.
And we need to be supple the Holy spirit.
And so, cause even if God promised, Hey, look, this is what you're going to be.
And this is what you're going to do.
It will not look like what you thought it just won't.
It's just the way they operate.
So we, so it just, we still need to hold it loosely and allow ourselves to be
moved around by the Holy spirit by constantly asking him, okay, God, at each
step of the way, should I do this?
Or should I do this?
I do that constantly.
Point a case in point with the rest intensive constantly.
And so I'm learning to rest even more and more in it so that I'm not as exhausted
in, in all ways, not knowing, and always not knowing what is it going to look like
this time?
When should I change anything this time?
Whatever.
So this next rest intensive that I can do all my word.
It's so different from what I've, what I've done for the past.
I don't know, almost not quite three years, but yeah, it's so different.
Oh my goodness.
I don't think I've done any well.
It's different than anything I've ever done, but the closest thing that is coming
to you is the, the original rest intensive I did, which is the kitchen
series, you know, that you watched.
And so my point is that I, that I have had to learn with every single time I do it
with things constantly changing, because I'm always asking God, God, what should I
do?
You know, what should I change?
You know, because I've noticed that things kind of like start dying down when I get
a formula, when I'm like, oh, this is how it's going to be.
I noticed that everything starts to, starts to like become rigid and just kind of, you
know, like decrease.
So anyway, my point is I constantly do this.
So this isn't me telling you something in theory.
This is how I do it.
And.
And the more that you just release it to the Lord,
the more power and spirit will be on what you do
because he's doing it, you're not.
As opposed to you deciding what it is
that God said that you should do
or what it is that you desire,
and then you figuring out how to get that done.
That's gonna have death in it
because it's gonna have flesh.
There's nothing wrong with you and your desires.
God just says, do it out of your spirit,
not out of your soul.
It's still you.
But it's the you that can bring eternity into earth,
not the soul that's pulling on the world
and its energy to get done what you wanna get done,
that kind of thing.
So anyway, so you do this and you just ask the Lord
and Holy Spirit at each step,
okay, Lord, now what?
Should I go this direction?
Should I go this direction or whatever?
And I've had to learn,
like what I was saying as my example
about the rest intensive,
I've had to learn how to do it more in rest
where I'm not exhausted
about trying to figure out the right will of the Lord,
just like, or wanting it to just always be the same.
I've gone through burnout where I just like,
Lord, I just want it to be the same.
And I told her that so many times.
I just want it to just be the same for a while.
I don't have to think about how to change the structure
and how to do this.
I told the Lord that several times.
I just want it to remain the same for a while.
Can I just have that for a while?
I think I said stability.
And maybe I used the word stability with him.
So my point is, lessons learned
that hopefully will help you.
It's I just had to learn, okay, actually just to stop.
You're not trying really hard
to find the will of the Lord to make something work.
Just operate, always moving forward in the next step
and the next step with this openness.
I mean, like always looking for the openness
and the freedom of the Lord
and then allow him to actually make it successful
as opposed to, well, Lord, I've never seen that done before.
And I don't know what people are gonna think about that.
People talk over and over and over again
about how much they love that original series,
the one that you watched at the very beginning
because, and then Diana mentioned,
she said actually there's something different on that.
And because I was operating so much out of just the spirit,
I had no structure.
It was just me teaching and flowing out
and that created the structure.
The problem is I then now had a structure
that I was trying to maintain and that started killing it
because you're adding flesh.
You're adding, okay, I'm gonna try to maintain this thing
that was born in the spirit.
No, the spirit has to maintain that which it birthed.
So you have to keep operating in that same spirit
where God is doing it, you're just partnering with him
and you're flowing and you're leaving all of the results
of like all of the results that people are getting out of it
that you're getting that, that you're releasing that
to the Lord and not feeling responsible
for the outcome that people are getting, right?
So anyway, point is, it's a lot to say
to like try to explain some context of what it is
that you can about how you can go through the process.
But I do wanna fall back on the,
well, one more thing, let me kind of finish that out.
So as you're just allowing yourself
to be moved by the Holy Spirit,
okay, well, what should I do now and what step now?
You'll just allow yourself to end up
in wherever it is that the Holy Spirit decides.
And that as opposed to getting a certain idea in our mind
about what it is that we thought it would look like
and then holding God,
emotionally holding God accountable to accomplishing that.
Well, God, but this isn't da, da, da.
And God, this is da, da, da.
Remember, it's very serious
to not have accusations against God, very serious.
That is out and out resistance.
That is the opposite of union.
It doesn't mean that you're not in union with him anymore.
It means that you're not operating
out of the union that you're in.
And so that's very important.
And so, oh, this is another very important thing.
You and what you're doing right now, this is good.
This is the point.
It's the journey.
It's not you getting the business or the job
or the ministry or whatever it is
that you're interested in pursuing.
That's not the point that God's like leading you to.
It's where you are right now, taking the journey with him.
That's the point he's been leading you to.
He's like, hey, let's just do this.
The point isn't the getting somewhere
and seeing something manifested.
The point is the actual journey
of getting it towards the manifestation.
mission is only as healthy as the journey was.
The whole point is the journey.
So in other words, the whole point is your relationship with the Lord.
Good.
That's what the journey is.
The journey isn't, am I getting it all right?
Oh, I've got to make sure.
Okay.
So that's how healthy the journey is.
It's me getting it right.
No, the health of the journey is based off of your union with the Lord
and the two of you operating together.
It's the development of your relationship, not getting your
relationship right, it's developing of the relationship.
That's the point.
So when you doing this, don't get discouraged that, well, I'm not there
yet, or I'm not there yet, or I haven't figured this out yet.
No, it's the process of you figuring it out with God.
That's the whole point.
It's the, you figuring it out.
It's the, you planning is the, you desiring is the, you praying.
That whole process of the, that is developing your relationship with the
Lord and remember the outcome, like, well, we're not there yet, whatever
that's up to, that is, that pressure is on God, meaning like God's just like,
Hey, I'm doing something and Hey, this is going to burn something.
This is going to manifest something, but that's not something that you need to
carry or try to make happen or that there's something wrong if it's not
happening yet, you're the whole, because that's not the point of what you're
doing anyway, that ends up just being a side effect of what you're doing.
It ends up being you like quote unquote, arriving somewhere, you know, and Oh,
now I have this ministry.
Now I have this business is not the point.
The point is you, you, uh, the, the journey that you're taking to get there
because even once it manifests in a particular way, you're still journeying
through it and that eventually your journey probably passed it
and onto something else.
So it's not a, it's, it's not a, it's not a thing that, uh, that is something
that we're being like held to and focus on and journey towards, you don't focus
on where you're supposed to be going and where it is you're heading, you focus on
God, and then you just happen to quote unquote, arrive somewhere while you're
watching, while you're paying attention to God, as opposed to paying attention
to thing and using it in accusation against God that it hasn't happened yet,
or it didn't look how he thought it would.
Right.
So anyway, so you just allow the Holy spirit to, to just create what it is
because he'll create what it is out of your spirit, your relationship and the
journey that you take towards the thing is what will create the thing
to look like what it is.
So you just focus on that.
So you're right where you need to be.
You're on the journey with God, not on the journey, getting somewhere.
No, you're on the journey with God going through the whole point of the
journey is not to get somewhere.
It's not to learn something new.
It's to develop your relationship with the Lord.
That is the journey of life.
That is the journey in your relationship and your marriage journey in the
relationship with your church journey, your relationship with your parents,
journey in the relationship of, um, you know, uh, business or ministry or
whatever it is, the development of your relationship with God, and those are the
tools that are, that are giving you direction in your, in the development
of your relationship.
So you're right where you need to be.
You're not missing something.
You're not out of, out of favor.
You're not, um, you're not behind.
It's the development.
It's where you're living just right now.
And every moment, that's why every moment is precious.
It's because that's what it's all about is you and the Lord right now into the
developing of the relationship, not getting it right, not getting the
relationship right, just the developing, just getting to know him.
But the way that you do that is you stay open with him and you stay vulnerable.
And so that'll help get you to know more about the Lord because your vulnerability
shows the Lord that you're trustworthy with his, with who he is, but you can
receive more of him because you've opened yourself up vulnerably to him, to be hurt,
to be, um, you know, in other words, to be potentially hurt by him, to, you
know, to follow him, you know, to everything.
So anyway, so closing that a loop.
I want to go back.
Do I have time?
Oh, wow.
It's past time to have time to like cover this last little bit.
Okay.
So about the thing with the, um, uh, the, um, uh, that protection.
So if you step out and you know, that, that it ended up not being God's
character, he'll protect you, um, in a way that you don't get the same
protection if you are pursuing something because you want to.
And that's what I want people to understand about the whole self initiation.
It's, it's not self initiation because God didn't say something.
So I guess I can do whatever I want to do.
No, you still ask God, what you're doing is you're just.
you're going with what it is that you,
with the closest thing that you can find
to what God, to God telling you something.
So if you're not hearing of us say it, the Lord,
you look for an openness because that's a,
that's a possible, you know, God telling me something,
you know, it's like that openness that in other words,
openness in the spirit,
openness in filling the freedom in the spirit,
filling the light, filling the life on it.
And like, okay, I think that that's the Lord.
Maybe that's how the Lord was talking to me, you know,
that kind of a thing.
Because again, you're filling it in your spirit,
not your soul.
And then the, as opposed to, well, my soul wants to do this.
I want to do this.
And so will God back me up on it?
You know, because you're not calling on his character.
You're calling on him to approve of what you want to do.
This one, feeling the openness and searching for him,
that is calling on his character
because you're searching for it,
because you, and you make a decision
based on who you think he is,
not what you think he'd approve of.
It's very, very different.
So we always make a decision,
but it feels like we're self-initiating
because we're like, yeah, but God didn't say.
Yeah, but that's the closest thing that you can find
is like this, you know,
you're, cause you're trying to learn how God communicates,
and he communicates in a variety of ways.
He didn't always just communicate audibly
or like drop down some sentence in English
into our spirit of like, hey, I want you to do this.
Sometimes it's kind of like, well, I feel a particular way,
but it needs to be a feeling
that you're getting in your spirit,
you know, of like,
because that's the part that's communing with the Lord.
And you're learning that.
You're like, well, what if I'm feeling that my soul,
but I thought it was my spirit.
That's part of the journey.
You figure it out because you're doing it
because you're thinking, God, I think that that's you.
So he'll provide you a measure of protection.
He did with me.
And I was, and you heard my testimony
about how I was just struggling with the Lord
and where I was always thinking that he was harsh
and he was legalistic and he had all of these rules,
but I thought that was him.
So he, as many of the consequences as I wore,
I didn't bear all the consequences that I could have
by considering the path that I chose.
I was very damaging.
It was damaging to me and damaging to other people,
but he was always kind of like, okay,
well, she thinks it's me.
So she, he would kind of like create some,
like some pads, some buffer pads
that made it not as terrible as it could have been.
Now he eventually, you know,
he just allowed me to move to my own
quote unquote self-destruction,
you know, so that I'd get to the end and realize,
okay, this doesn't work.
But he did it very kindly because I thought it was him.
I wasn't running from him.
I was trying to run to him.
So anyway, he does the same thing.
So think of it kind of like a child
falling at a, you know,
his parents tell him or he climbs a tree
and maybe it's perfectly fine for him to climb the tree.
There's nothing wrong with it.
His parents didn't tell him he couldn't or whatever.
In fact, his parents probably, you know,
just they would go out on picnics
and the kids would just climb trees
and parents were like, oh, that's wonderful, sweetie.
You got so high.
I'm so proud of you.
You know, it's all just part of life.
It's just no big deal.
But one day he falls out of the tree and breaks his arm.
So he's a child though.
Who bears the majority of the weight of that consequence?
The parents.
They're the ones who have to schedule
taking him to the doctor's appointments.
They're the ones who have to walk him through everything.
They're the ones who have to take,
help him take care of his arm.
He's just kind of there, you know,
annoyed that he has to do all of this stuff
and that he can't play baseball for weeks.
And he has to always keep his cast out of the shower
while he's taking a bath.
You know, it's just annoying.
And so he's got his own consequences
that he has to bear from his actions.
But, and so he just simply learns,
okay, what does he learn?
He didn't learn that you can't climb trees.
He learned you have to be careful, right?
So he didn't bear the full consequences of his actions
because he's a kid.
And so his parents were like,
okay, you know what?
We're taking you to the doctor.
We're driving you.
We have to take the time off of work sometimes,
you know, and then we have to,
and then it's, we have to pay for the insurance.
We have to do all of this stuff.
The parents are ending up carrying
the majority of the load.
And that's what God does for us.
It's not that you won't have pain or consequences
if that wasn't quite what the Lord wanted you,
you know, if that wasn't the manifested character of God.
It's a learning experience.
He doesn't condemn you.
He's not shaming you or anything.
He just like, yeah, but I want you to know who I am.
So I want you to know that's actually not me.
But I'm so excited that you pursued it
because you thought it was.
I love that part.
And that's wonderful.
And you called on my character when you stepped forward.
So therefore it's my character that will cover you
and provide you protection so that,
and soften the blow of the consequences.
So anyway, I just wanted to point that out.
because that can be, we can be very afraid of, of actually stepping out into decision.
Um, if we, if we think that, yeah, but God hasn't told me point blank that, that it's him,
so I can risk it, but then I'm going to have to, I have to bear all of these consequences
of doing all of this. If it's wrong, you actually don't have to, you will. I mean,
there are some consequences that it's, it's not anything like, but God, for one thing,
that the consequences that come are not shame or condemnation from the Lord.
And he will protect you with himself, with his character. And then he'll say, oh,
and then you'll learn something there. And he'll say, okay, now let's do this.
Cause again, the point is the journey. And what did you just do when you've stepped out
into something that ended up not being perfect manifestation, the character of God,
you learn, you, you took, you took a journey, you developed your relationship. You now learn,
know something and are closer to the Lord than you knew and were before. It's just, it's that's
you stepping out and trying is the point. It's the God, where are you? God's like, move, find me,
not just stay there. And just like, okay, God dragged me to only the safe spots. God's like,
no, find me. Let's do this together. You know, cause again, the point is the development of the
relationship, not getting it right. So what did you do when you stepped out and it wasn't quite
the perfect manifestation, the character of God, you stepped out, you didn't, you took you,
you actually did, but you actually moved. There was development of relationship. You had faith in
God. God, I think this is you. This is who I, I choose to believe that you are not because I wish
that that is, but because I think you've told me that that's is so Lord. Okay. And then here's my
action to follow up with. That's what you're doing. All of this is fate followed by works,
but it has to be faith and who God says he is not, not, I want to do this. And therefore I'm
going to act on it. It has to be, this is who God says he is. And that's what I'm going to act on.
Um, one more point I'm going to make, cause it always surprises me that people go to this point,
but, uh, remember that God isn't good because things work out. Meaning like, meaning like
that doesn't determine whether or not God's good. So like people ask, well, you know, how,
how good is God? Well, I bet, you know, I'm going to try to have faith that God's good.
He says he's good. So, you know, I really want to do this thing. I mean, do you recognize that
that's the soul? I really want to do this thing, you know? And, uh, I mean, the spirit can want,
that's not my point. It's just kind of like, I think that you can kind of like, uh, sense or
picture this type of dynamic where you're like, I really want to do something right. And then we're
trying to like put the God label on it and make it all. Okay. And so it was like, Oh, I really,
really want to do something. You know, I think that God is this good that he would let me have
this. We're defining God's goodness by us getting what we want. That's the problem. We can't connect
God's goodness or, or, or have God's goodness be defined to us by us getting what we want.
That's that they're completely irrelevant. God's good, whether or not we get what we want.
So that's, that's, um, so I just say that if, because sometimes we're like, Oh, well, I'm
going to have, I'm having faith in God. I thought he was that good that, that I could get to do
whatever I wanted, but I can't get to whatever it's like, that's not pursuing the character of
God. That is defining God's character. But in other words, that's not faith. That's not taking
who God says that he is and acting on it. That's taking what you want and then trying to define
God's character by you getting it. So that's not faith and stepping out in something of like, Oh,
well, I'm pursuing the character of God by stepping out on this. Cause I believe he's that good.
So does that, does that make sense? Yes, that that's so good. Like it, what you just said,
like the, what not to do, you know, it's definitely a very like childish, like
immature version of, you know, and I'm like, Oh my God, I was so there, you know what I mean?
Like, I've been talking to various people, some in a few of them in the current rest intensive
that are saying things like that. I'm like, okay, no, no, no, no. That got back up. Like,
Oh, I'm believing God's good. I'm believing this will work out whether or not it works out,
does not determine whether or not it's good. I'm like, okay, we've really got it. You're
not having faith that something.
things going to manifest.
You're having faith that God is who he says that he is.
And then you ask God, God, can you manifest who that is, even if it
means this thing doesn't work out, you, you doing what you did and the
actions that are caused Lord, that's you being good, and that is who I choose you
to be.
So anyway, I just, that's kind of come up a little recently.
So it's like, I'm just going to kind of throw that one in and clarify.
This is what I'm not saying.
No, that's really good because that's where the accusation against God
comes when it doesn't work.
Right.
It comes from that place of inching, his goodness on him, doing something
that you thought he was going to, you know, do or whatever.
So, yeah, yeah.
I don't think I've ever had anybody ask this, but let me just kind of clarify
that it's hard to describe.
So how do I know that God is good?
Or, or like, you know, because it's like, well, surely if he would do this
thing, that's how I know he's good.
So how do I know?
And it's like, well, we just have to have that.
It's it's, it requires faith.
It's like, who does he say?
Because faith has to be on nothing but word, not on evidence.
Faith is based on word.
So therefore, if we're called to have faith in God about who he says that he is, we
literally have no foundation, but his word.
So the fact he said it, he said, he's good, not how can I know?
And will this happen?
And this didn't happen.
So it's got good or not that that's completely irrelevant.
You know, we can't look at, we can't look at evidence.
Who does he say?
Therefore, that's what he is.
And, and how do we know that?
Like, in other words, how do we have it?
Well, we do have to make that leap of faith, but there's an element of like, how
can we get some kind of an evidence so that you know, he is so that it is faith,
but it's a, it's, it's a faith that's been, that's been, um, uh, basically
it's a faith that's been proven.
It's a faith that landed.
It's a faith that finally had evidence.
What is the evidence it's it'll be in your spirit.
Like you will sense when you're with God and you release all accusations and you
let go of things and whatever, and you connect with who he truly is, that is
where, you know, beyond the shadow of a doubt that he's good.
Why?
Because the spirit is communing with your spirit and no one can talk you out of it.
So if you're always looking for evidence outside that God is good,
you can be convinced you were convinced that God was good because you saw it.
So therefore you can be unconvinced because you stopped seeing it or
because, um, because someone told you so.
In other words, you use logic to bring you to a conclusion.
So logic can talk you out of it.
But when you connect with the spirit of God himself and you, and you, you will
know all of these things that he's telling, he's urging your, your soul to
believe your spirit, if you connect with that, and then you spend time with your
spirit in God's spirit, like, you know, you will sense and know where no one can
convince you otherwise, no matter what evidence you see, you will know that God
is all of these things that he says he is protector, provider, safety, you
know, holy, good love because, and, and it can't, and you can't be convinced
otherwise, because you weren't convinced out here that he was.
So it can't unconvince you it's, you found it in a place that is, can't be
threatened, that it can't be changed.
That is sure.
All the attacks can come at it, but it can't reach it because you, you've, um,
you've met with God's love.
You met with his goodness.
You saw it, you communed with it.
So just FYI of like, well, yeah, but how do I know?
And, and, um, you're not going to see it in evidence.
It's the, um, to convince you you're going to have to find it here.
And then you'll see it out there.
God will show you where it is, but it has to originate here.
This can't convince you in this direction that God's good.
It's only from this direction out that you'll see the manifestation
of the goodness of God.
So, um, and, and so that's why sometimes I say things like, oh, well, he did this
for you, oh my goodness, he's manifesting his goodness, because it's not that that
is proving that he's good, it's that I know he's good and therefore I'm seeing
that and I'm like, oh, I can tell you that originated from the same place that
this started, which is, you know, I can see the connection, but it's not, but I,
I don't in any way mean that we're supposed to look at these things.
And if these things happen, it means God's good.
Or if these other things happen.
It means God's not good.
I'm just saying, no, because I know he's good.
I can recognize something that looks like this.
So it's, it's a little bit, so it's a different perspective on it.
So that makes the whole Bible completely true in the way that we've ever read it,
that we've always read it, but it actually, but we actually
approached it from the back door.
And God's like, no, no, no.
You have to approach it from this direction, which puts a whole
different eternal spin on everything.
Hard, hard to explain.
I knew what I was saying when I said that.
But anyway, so is this helpful?
Extremely.
Yes.
Thank you so very much.
Well, I'll let you go and you know that you have this, that you'll have this
recording in your, in your, um, you know, in your group thing.
So have you been in there lately?
Have you, you can't see anybody else's, right?
You can just see yours.
Yeah.
I just saw mine there.
Okay.
That's what I thought, because I always have to do these tests to make sure that
all of the stuff I'm doing on the backend to lock down and like, keep it private
to just the person really is working.
So I'm like, well, so, um, and I can do it with some people, but I can't do it
with the active members because I don't have their passwords.
If I have the, if I have people that I've put in there that had that are like old
members, but then I'm creating their passwords and I can go in as them and I
can see what they see and make sure it's working, but I can't for the current
member.
So I wanted to make sure that it's all working correctly.
So, okay.
Well, I thought you did create our passwords, right?
You sent that to us.
I guess I did, but see, y'all have changed that.
Well, I assume that you have, maybe you haven't.
Mine is the same, so you can keep your mind the same.
Go ahead.
Check what you need.
If you need to check.
I appreciate it.
Thank you.
Yeah.
They're really the only people that I have to go in and do that for now.
Are you, you wouldn't believe what it is that I'm doing.
I'm literally taking the Facebook group and I'm literally putting them into the
old Facebook group and I'm putting it into this new platform.
That means that in order for everything to look like it did there, I have to be
that person.
So for instance, Susan, you know that you, I had a, I had a suit, uh, I had posted
one of her, I had reposted one of her posts, you know, yeah.
One of her directors, I had to, I had to create Susan in this new platform, go and
get that post and log in as Susan and post it as Susan in order for it to show up that
she posted it instead of me.
So anyway, um, I, it just, it takes a quite a bit of effort.
So, um, it most, most of what I'm needing to do to go back into stuff is like, uh,
it's like the, um, like older members, um, that haven't joined since I've, um, that
haven't been active in the platform since I started it.
So anyway, but thank you.
I appreciate it that other people have changed their password.
And so I'm like, I just assumed everybody had, and so anyway, um, uh, and I haven't
needed to get in other than just like to test and make sure, okay, they can see
their own thing, right.
And they can't see to do some tests, but anyway, I appreciate the authorization.
Anyway, we're good.
Thank you so much.
Truly, truly enjoyed this.
You will always have a very special place in my heart.
Ashley, like I'm gonna start crying.
Is it worth it?
Was the rest intensive worth it?
It was like so worth it.
Like, it's so life-changing.
Um, it's like open the gateway to the next level in God.
And it's so good.
It's so, I'm just like, I'm just overjoyed and I'm just really appreciative.
So thank you.
I count you among my friends and people.
So dear to my heart.
Well, good.
Well, I'm so glad that it was worth it.
I'm always trying to do it where, cause my whole heart is like, Lord, this, uh, you
know, I want, I want them to have fruit.
I want this, I want the rest intensive to have fruit.
I want them to get it.
And I want them to understand.
And I want their lives to be changed because I'm always trying to, cause that's why I do
a mentorship is I offer to other people what I got and I want them to have it.
You know, it's like, you know, if I'm going to invest this much where I'm not teaching,
I'm actually mentoring people.
Like I want it to be effective.
So like, so did you, did you get it?
Is it, is it effective?
Was it helpful?
Was it worth it?
So, okay, good.
Thank you so much.
So good.
So thank you.
I, I mean, a thousand times over.
Can I pray really quickly?
Okay.
Father, I thank you so much for Ashley.
I thank you so much for this time together.
I, she is just one of your precious daughters and I'm so grateful that I got to meet her
and for her to point to my life.
And I just, um, I know that, um,
I just ask all of the spiritual blessings, God,
that you would just really enlighten her.
And I know you're gonna give her what you need
because you're a good God and a good father.
I just stand in agreement and I just thank you, God,
whatever is wrong, God, I would ask
that you would make it right,
wherever the path is crooked,
that you would make it straight.
And I just thank you so much for her,
she's so precious and for her husband, father.
And I just pray your blessings over them
in every aspect of their lives
and your protection over them.
And I just thank you for all these things
in Jesus name, amen.
Thank you.
I just wanted to pray for you,
I'm like, I don't know what I did for her.
I really appreciate it.
That's wonderful, I fully receive that.
So thank you so much, Tammy.
It's so nice to get to have you part of the group
and thank you for all of your contribution
for being a very strong and loving person
to everyone in the group.
It really does, every person adds to the group dynamic.
And so one of the things that you added
was just a strength of like leadership and kindness and joy.
I always love getting to see your smile
and I always appreciated that.
So thank you so much for doing that.
It really does, I've been through several groups,
not just the big rest intensive groups,
but also these many rest intensive groups
and people like you make all the difference
in setting the tone for the group
in like a very healthy, positive
and spiritually progressive way.
So thank you very much, I really appreciate that.
All right.
Have a good Saturday, good weekend.
Bye.