Thank you.
Hey, Renata.
I'm sorry about that. I, I mean, I just didn't know. So, like, I forget know that countries all do it on different dates, you know, because all of America does it on one day, but when I was in Turkey, we would do it on it.
We would do it on a different date. Yeah, I think we did we would do it on a different date. And so it depended on whether we were on daylight savings time yet as to whether America and Turkey were eight hours difference or seven.
Anyway, it's been so long that I forget that don't all do it on the same date so I'm sorry. Oh no no that's fine because I was thinking last time I almost forgot because we have the saving daylight earlier.
And I almost came an hour late to our session. Oh, then I thought oh my gosh we changed. So I need to come earlier.
I just didn't assume that you didn't have it so then I thought oh I just have to keep track of it. Yeah.
You just have it later. Yes, yeah we do. Okay. All right. Wow. Well, I didn't know that you were having to make some adjustments on your end because oh that's fine.
No, no problem. Very flexible and sweet. Thank you. I mean it's just kind of one of those things it's like okay, but once you get to this once you like get past these couple times a year you know everything's good but doing this couple times a year you
Okay, so what time is it.
Yeah, like all of my clocks, still are like the old time, except for like all of my, and all of my, like my phone etc all of that automatically in my computer all of that automatically adjusted, but like, you know, this stuff that you have to do manually like the microwave
or the, or the stove or the coffee pot all of this. Oh yeah yeah yeah.
I had to change my husband's clocks the other day at his office because they were on the old time. Oh yeah.
Yeah. So anyway, how are you.
I'm doing pretty good.
I feel like there's a lot of things going on, amazing things and challenging things.
Some things that I have questions about, I listened to your teaching and extra teaching that you sent, and our talks.
But I thought maybe that it would be like I wanted to share some things that have happened and then I can also just say what I'm thinking about like I obviously welcome any input, but I also have some things.
Yeah, I'd love to hear that. Yeah.
There's been really good things where I feel like I, at times, I'm really living in rest.
And one time this weekend I was in a birthday party.
I was driving home really late like 12 o'clock 1230 at night. Yeah.
And I got through roadblocks and it was very unclear for me how, where to drive. And I chose one path because you're driving. I don't know what it is in American, maybe.
What would that be maybe 35 kilometers and you have miles and all that stuff but like fairly quickly but then, and because it's like a highway, and you have to make decisions really fast.
I chose one way.
And it ended, and then I see one of those vehicles with lights and everything you know it's like an office, some sort of some kind of awesome comes towards me with blinking lights and almost kind of tries to not hit me, but kind of turns the wheels and it comes
against me and then turns back, and I just jump and I'm like, what just happened.
And then I come through the tunnel and then
it's obviously a roadblock and I've obviously been driving wrong.
And it's 1230 at night, and there comes three grown big men out and they are raging mad. They're so mad at me.
I rolled down the window, and they just I know that they want to just cuss me out and everything and they start like yelling at me, and like insults, kind of like, do you even have a driver license and just, and I don't know anything like in my mind I haven't
do anything wrong. I've seen a roadblock. And I wasn't clear
where to drive. So I chose one of two. Yeah. And they're kind
of just attacking me. And you know, the whole body language,
like three grown men, I'm a little woman. Yeah. And I just
feel that I managed to stay in rest. I just, I, I just
apologize, like, I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry.
Yeah. And that just kind of, so I know they want to go off on
me. Yeah. Continue. But because I'm just saying, I'm sorry, but
I'm not in like, shame. Oh, I'm so horrible. Why did I do this?
And I'm such a horrible driver. I don't do that. But I don't
myself either. I'm just, I'm sorry. Perfect. So I'm neither
like, yeah, here. So they and then they kind of don't have
anything to say, because I don't gravel so they can just keep
digging me down. But I don't either defend myself, though, so
they can attack me. Yeah. So they don't know what to say. So
they kind of like, move on to the next car because someone
else did the same mistake. And I can hear them behind me yelling
to them. So they're like, mad. And it becomes a case and they
are trying to get connected to the other people on their side.
How did anyone get through here, blah, blah. And normally
this would have, it's, this is not normal that you have grown
men yelling at you at 1230 at night. But I felt like I was in
rest. And then I tell them, I know, you might not want to hear
my explanation. But I would just want to tell you what happened.
And I say, I never intended to drive wrongly. I saw a sign, I
misinterpreted it, and I took left. And that's what happened.
I haven't tried to break any rules or anything like that. And
then finally, it calms down and I can drive away and I feel like
I'm not shaky. It's, it's affecting me because someone
really yelled at me. Yeah. But I'm okay. I'm okay. I'm not a
horrible driver. I'm not a horrible person. Oh, and then I
feel like, oh my gosh, I can just stay and rest and I don't
have to feel horrible about myself. And I don't have to
defend myself. Yeah, that's great. That's huge. Yeah, I
remember that when I was, when I was learning to, you know, when
I was, you know, shifting to rest and stuff like that, one of
the, you know, learning how to do that and learning how that
would affect my life and how that would change things and how
that changes how I interact in situations. That was one of the
the things that indicated to me that I was changing was the fact
that when I was in those situations like that, like, say,
I would get, I don't know, pulled over because of
something. And normally, I would just be like, shaking or scared
or something. And, and I was just like, no, Ashley,
remember, remember who you are, there's no need to feel shame or
condemnation. There's no need to get defensive. There's just,
you know, and that's when I realized, oh, my goodness, I
really am changing. Because those are very challenging
situations to be in. Yeah, that's amazing. I'm so excited
for you.
Yeah, that was it. And I'm just I feel I am in several
situations where I'm in. And even though before that, it
wasn't like I consciously entered into rest before going
into the car. Actually, I was kind of there's been I was at a
party, there was no one, no Christians, there was a lot of
drinking. So I was in a little bit of a unrestful state. Yeah.
And I really wanted to, I don't know, wanted to talk to them
about God and everything and share something meaningful and
Jesus with them. And I felt like there wasn't really an opening.
So I was kind of in a little bit of an unrestful place, I thought
and then when this happened, I was still in rest.
That's great.
Oh, gosh, I was actually I, that's weird. And because I
wasn't even prepared for this attack to happen. Yeah. And then
I went to church again. And I felt like again, I could the guy
that I was really in love with, with leading worship. Yeah. And
I felt like I'm still receiving everything he has to give. And
I'm it's not just a one time thing, I can still continue to
take it in and talk to him a little bit afterwards. And I can
still be a little bit sad. I feel things it's not like you.
It's not like I'm not affected. But I'm still I can actually go
there. And I actually never thought I would be able to go
back to that church if he was going to pastor it or lead
worship. That's just wild. Yeah, that is so cool. Yeah. So I feel
still
there that I'm, and that I'm taking steps towards because
we're in some groups together, and I'm taking steps towards it
and towards him in a friendly way. And, yeah, at the same
time, I give myself time to grieve and be sad. And the kind
of still, like the resistance that you're talking about, like
I'm not resisting him anymore. Yeah, the wall of protection
when I meet him. Wow, that's huge. Just little things like
feeling like I can take in more things with my mom, I noticed
when I can and when I don't, I notice when I'm in rest and not
because sometimes there are a lot of resistances, like me and
my mom has had a challenging relationship the last years. So
I think there's a lot of things in me wanting to resist her. But
I can just tell when I am able to just be at rest with her and
take her in without having being critical or kind of this or have
to shut down or close the conversation or just things like
that. So yeah, and I think it's even helping me when ministering
to people like I feel more freedom in ministering and also
to give on what I'm what I've been learning the past year, and
also especially now in the rest intensive, that I'm able to use
it when I'm ministering to people and praying, people and
talking to people even like in counseling, like, yeah. Some
people come to me for maybe guidance or prayer, and then I
feel like I can offer them another dimension, kind of or,
or speak from a different place or with more confidence. Yeah.
So there's just little things just like last time we talked
about giftings and writing and everything singing and just kind
of welcoming the thought of starting to write more again,
like I haven't put out written anything yet, but just to release
the thought and don't be afraid of the thought. Yeah, distance
against. No, but I can't write because of this and this or it's
too hard or I can't handle being critiqued by other people. What
if I don't get any feedback if what if I get wrong feedback,
all these things that makes you scared of people. Yeah. And I'm
asking myself, what if Jesus loves me, what would I do? And
just inviting his or just believing that he's there. I
feel that there's something happening in me. Like I wrote
you in the text. Like I'm just sitting doing whatever on the
couch. And then I just stop and say, I believe you're here. I
know that you're here or you're here. And then I might not
notice that he's there. But sometimes I will afterwards,
like, I'll be aware that Oh, he is actually here. Like I feel
it. Yeah. And when when I was driving away from that
incident, with roadblock, I actually looked over in the
seat and I was like, you were here, right? You were like, with
me and this you heard the guys yell at me. Yeah. You're kind of
just like, yeah, I wasn't alone in this, actually. Yes. Yeah.
So I feel like, but did I still still feel like I wrote in the
text that it's fragile and vulnerable, and almost that you
almost want to control it, because you don't want to lose
it. Yeah. And I still feel it's very fragile and vulnerable. And
there are also times where I noticed that I'm totally not in
rest, for instance, talking to my mom or other situations, I
can tell, like, I'm not in rest, and I don't know how to get
there. And I think the things that have been challenging is I
thought about two things. And one of them is that I feel like
I'm a lot outside of regulation, like emotional regulation, like
it's too much, I often get very overwhelmed. Things overwhelm me
quite a bit. And it's kind of almost like a lifestyle, like
I've been stressed for a lot of time. Like the last 20 years,
I've been in a lot of stress, or in and out or mostly in. And
it's been kind of like a way of living. Yeah, it's been kind of
part of who I am and how I act and how I roll. And I just get
overwhelmed. And yeah, it's just too much like a lot of things.
work, something happens in a relationship could be like very little things that trigger
me and I'm overwhelmed.
Yes.
It gets really stressful and it prevents me from putting more responsibility on myself,
doing more because everything just requires so much and nothing, it doesn't take anything
to just put me off in some way.
So that is one thing and the other thing I've been noticing is that rejection really throws
me off still.
Yeah.
And I'm totally out of rest and I don't know how to get back there.
And what happened this week, now I'm sharing a lot, this week there was a good friend of
mine, we met and went for a walk and she kept rejecting me all the time through our conversation
and I didn't understand what was going on.
She asked me lots of questions I answered, then I asked her lots of questions and she
didn't answer and then I asked something else and she's like, I don't want to talk about
it and then let's talk about something else and she didn't want to talk about that.
And then in the end, you kind of feel so rejected, you just want to leave, you don't know what's
going on.
But then I told her, I don't know what's going on, why are you rejecting me?
And then she said that, well, I kind of feel like you're pushing me, I don't want to
share these things, I really have boundaries.
And then I, oh, I didn't know, I had no idea that you felt like I was pushing you, I don't
want to push you, it's just really awkward that you're not sharing anything from your
life.
And for some reason, and then we got to talk about it and I started to analyze it and go
into it and like, why is she rejecting me?
Is it something I've done earlier?
Is she offended or hurt?
I noticed that she has rejection issues, is she trying, you know, the thing of you try
to reject because you feel rejected, so you reject first, I'm like, what's going on here?
And I, for some reason, that really hit me.
And I was thrown off and I couldn't, the last hours and yesterday, I haven't been able to
think about that many other things because I was so affected by it.
And it's just, it's just like, it hit a vulnerable spot in me.
And I know that I have rejection issues that God has healed partly, but I'm probably not
fully healed.
But those are things that really takes me out of rest.
And I'm left in analyzing my own thoughts, my own emotions, and sometimes like unhealthy
thought patterns or just feeling horrible.
Yeah.
In it, I could tell that I didn't feel as bad as I would maybe half a year ago.
So I think there has happened something.
It's not like I've been in horrible pain or just very, very mad or upset, but still enough
to really throw me off.
Correct.
Yeah.
Then, of course, the spiritual aspect, I know, like we are praying a lot in the church.
I know that the devil wants to come against relationships.
So there could always be, you know, spiritual aspect that something's coming against relationships
and like attacks.
So that could also be part of it.
And, but it also is emotional.
Those kind of things really gets me out of rest.
Yeah.
Makes sense.
Yeah.
Absolutely.
Yeah.
Well, the thing with the other one-
I've shared a lot of things.
No, it's great.
It's great.
Because giving you an opportunity to like, because that helps you when you articulate
things for yourself, it really does help you, you know, in the journey because it helps
you actually kind of like face the reality of what it is that you're feeling.
And then those things are highlighted.
So in other words, the light is shining on and so that they can actually now be dealt
with.
So that's great.
In fact, in the rest intensive community group, one of the things that I require them to do
is to write two posts a week or to do a video.
And the point of that is to, is to give them the opportunity to be, to progress in their
journey faster because they're articulating.
They have to explain to someone else where they are currently on their journey.
And so they have to, they have to.
They have to face it.
They have to look at themselves and realize, okay, really what's going on?
What am I believing?
How am I shifting?
How am I changing?
No, et cetera.
So anyway, so it's very healthy.
It's very good.
Uh, it's very progressive, um, progressing, uh, as far as the
overwhelm, um, the, by the way, everything that you've been talking
about is just so great, so great.
Been able to see so much, so much change because you're finding that you're doing
it, um, very so often without thinking about it, meaning like it's entrenched
in you and it's really, truly shifting deep down as opposed to, okay, I'm trying
to remember to think differently.
Then that's not getting down into our actual true belief system.
We're just constantly trying to remind ourselves that the way we've approached
it, we need to now approach it differently.
And that just won't have the same effect.
We're not actually having faith in it.
We're just trying to believe it or think differently.
And so anyway, you're showing that, you know, it really is getting deep down in
there and you really are choosing and your, and your soul and your body really
are turning and shifting and believing more and more that God is who he says that
he is.
And, and so that's great.
Um, so like I said, as far as the overwhelm goes, that comes from believing
that we are responsible for the outcomes and then we get overwhelmed in all of the
responsibility.
Like, oh my goodness, you know, if I, I have to handle this correctly in order to
get this result, or, oh my goodness.
Now somebody else told me that I need to do something else, or I'm now coming up
against a situation and, and subconsciously I realize everything that's required of me
now in order to respond appropriately, in order to get a, a, the correct response or
have God pleased with me or have the person pleased with me or whatever.
And then when we always feel that our actions and our decisions and our knowledge
and what of our energy that, um, that is required in order to control a particular
outcome, if, when we start having that and, uh, in like multiple areas, we get
overwhelmed because all of a sudden we have all this responsibility.
There's all these things we now have to do.
And there's, and it's more than just simply the doing of them.
There's this weight that we feel, like I said, of this responsibility,
like it's up to, it's up to me.
It's some more and more and more is required of me to execute.
And if I don't execute it just right, I'm going to bear the consequences somehow.
Either other people are going to bear the consequences and then God's going to be
upset at me because apparently by their response, I didn't handle it right.
Or we end up bearing consequences directly because I don't know, we didn't make the
wise choice and we ended up doing this over here when we thought this was the
right thing to do and that, and, um, anyway, so that's where overwhelm comes in.
So the way that to count to counter overwhelm is to just remember and to
choose that you're not responsible for the outcome, to give it to the Lord.
And so that the Lord is responsible for what happens, not your actions, your
actions are not responsible for determining what happens, you just act.
In other words, you act like a son of God, you obey the Lord, you seek him.
You're looking at him.
You're focused on him.
You're obeying him.
You and he are doing stuff together.
You're operating out of spirit.
And that's what you're giving to the situation, but it's not your wisdom,
your knowledge, your energy, your choice.
That's determining the outcome and, and determining whether or not you're
going to bear any kind of consequence that is up to the Lord, the Lord
it determines the outcome or the Lord creates the, uh, creates the
supplies, the energy, if you will.
He takes on the responsibility of what happens and that leaves you free and
without weight and responsibility when you're acting, in other words, when
you're doing something or when you're approaching it, it doesn't.
So that that's why rest means that it's not inactivity.
It's doing activities effortlessly without bearing.
You know, just whatever I, how I refer to it as the burden, the weight and the responsibility
of creating an outcome by our actions.
So does that, does that all make sense?
Yeah, it makes sense because with me, I would think, oh, I can't work more than this.
I can't be relational more than this.
I can't do more than this because I know how I get.
So you kind of control it by this is how much energy I have.
Let me work three days instead of five.
Let me not get involved in church with this, even though I want to, writing takes too much
effort, so I won't do it, but I can do this and this.
And it kind of limits you because like you're saying, you're trying to control the outcome
and then it ends up you not doing things.
And whenever something comes up and I'm a doer in a way, and I have a lot of initiative,
so I love it.
I have a lot of ideas that I propose and then I get so overwhelmed if people catch onto
it because then I actually have to do it.
So then my solution is to stop coming with initiative and ideas, you know what I mean?
Because I'm controlling the outcome and I know that I won't be able to follow through
with it because I get so overwhelmed.
So then the resolution would be to stop coming with initiative, stop proposing things, stop
doing things, which is not something I want, but I can't find a better solution to it.
I initially am afraid of being burnt out or in depression or anxiety or like I want out
of stress.
I don't want to, like I want to go out of it.
And I'm afraid if I do these things that I kind of want to do, then I will just get burnt
out and continue in stress.
Yeah.
So what you're saying makes a lot of sense because what I'm trying to do is to control
the outcome.
That's why I'm already living partly in stress.
Yeah.
That's what the burnout thing is.
It's exerting all of this, it's exerting all of this energy trying to determine the outcome
because you feel that you're responsible for it.
You feel that your actions, you meaning like people, people feel that their actions are
what is creating the outcome.
But the thing is that God says you can live like that if you want to, but you don't have
to.
It goes all the way back to, so it is an actual choice of how do we want to live life?
Who do we want to be responsible for the outcome?
Do we want to receive from the Lord the gift where he's responsible or do we want to take
the responsibility?
It goes all the way back to the same decision and the same situation that the Israelites
found themselves in when they were offered the gift of sonship, where God was like, Hey,
you can interact with me directly.
Remember when they went to Mount Sinai and they had been preparing themselves and cleansing
themselves for three days and they go up to the mountain, they go to the mountain and
they hear all the thunder and lightning and all of that.
And God wants to offer them the opportunity to rely on him where he's the one that is
responsible for the outcomes.
They get to have direct access to him.
They get to have direct relationship with him where their lives and their livelihoods
and their generations and their families are dependent on relationship with God as opposed
to what they ended up choosing, which was no, that's too close Lord.
That's too intimate.
You know, that makes me feel afraid.
So, um, instead Moses, you talk to God for us and just give us a list of rules.
Just tell us what to do and we'll do it.
And then that means that they have chosen to take on the responsibility of doing all
of these, uh, uh, doing something, uh, the responsibility that the outcome depends on
what they do, because they said, tell us what to do when we'll do it.
And so they decided, okay, I want the outcomes to be determined by my actions.
So we can choose that lifestyle.
We can choose that relationship with the Lord.
We can choose, Hey Lord, this is how I want to interact with you.
This is what I'll allow because what God is doing is he's saying, Hey, look, cause relationships,
you know, are a two way street.
So God is saying, Hey, I'll offer you, this is my of myself.
And the Israelites are like, no, we.
We don't allow you, and on our side of the relationship,
to get that close.
We don't allow that interaction.
And so God honors what it is that the Israelites said
and what we often say, which is, OK,
if you won't allow me to interact with you like that,
then I won't.
If you won't allow me to be responsible for your outcomes
and you're choosing to be responsible for your outcomes,
I'll honor that.
So then, yeah, we are bearing the burden, the weight,
and the responsibility of the outcomes.
That's how we choose that our relationship with the Lord
works.
But we have the opportunity instead
to choose a relationship with the Lord
where he is responsible for those outcomes.
It relieves us, and then we don't
have to expend all of this energy and all of this
and carrying the weight of the determination of our actions.
In other words, the weight of the outcome
being dependent on our actions.
We get to choose that.
We get to choose whether we want that to happen or not.
So that's where burnout comes from.
That's where overwhelm comes from,
is us believing that we're responsible for the outcomes.
So if we, in those situations, when
we're starting to feel burnout or when we're
starting to feel overwhelmed, we just shift back into, OK,
am I choosing that I'm responsible for the outcome
or am I going to release the outcome to the Lord
so he can do whatever it is he wants
and I'm not in control of what happens?
Which is scary.
So would I rather choose that I'm not
responsible for the outcome and I'm not in control,
or would I rather control and risk my energy on trying
to get a specific outcome?
Because it's still a risk.
We don't know for sure if we're going
to be able to bring all of ourselves
together, like all of our wisdom and all of our knowledge,
we're going to know enough and do enough and have enough time
and have enough energy to be able to get this outcome.
But do we want to try that because at least we
can control it and we feel like we have a chance,
or are we going to trust that we have a chance with God
because he's a good God?
And no, we don't know what kind of an outcome
that he's either going to choose or that is just going to happen
and he doesn't choose it, but because other people were
involved, it could go south, it could not be good.
But God, because we gave the outcome up to him,
he protected us when the consequences came.
So there was a consequence that happened
as a result of the outcome, and then he protects us,
he protects our reputation, he fights for us, he whatever.
So that's another way in which when
we give up the outcome to the Lord,
the way that he handles the outcome.
Part of the outcome isn't just what happens,
it's how what happens affects us, like rejection.
Like, well, Lord, I want to, like,
are we going to give up the outcome of the relationship
to the Lord, or are we going to try to control
other people's response to us?
Like, are we going to people please
in order to try to make sure that they always respond
to us in a particular way?
Or are we going to leave the outcome to the Lord
and just interact with them the way
that we believe God is directing us to?
And in leaving the outcome to the Lord,
one of the outcomes might be how they respond to us.
If we leave the outcome to the Lord
and then they respond to us in a negative way,
the Lord will protect us in those consequences.
So he'll either fight for our reputation
or he'll help you realize that you're not threatened,
and because there's no need for you
to feel the threat of rejection.
We can still feel that pain and that disappointment
and that separation from someone else,
and then that creates a sense of pain,
which is what we imagine that Jesus felt when
the disciples denied him, Judas betrayed him, et cetera.
But Jesus still wasn't threatened,
and he still chose God instead.
But anyway, does all of that make sense?
So overwhelm and burnout.
result from us trying to take control of the outcome and having to, to carry that sense of
responsibility for what happens, like, well, it's dependent on what I know, what I don't know,
and how much time I have and whether or not I'm applying wisdom. And, you know, how I handled it,
that the outcome's dependent on my action. Well, that's exhausting. Then you just feel that you
feel like, oh my goodness, then I've got to make sure that I do everything perfectly right. And
what if I don't get it right? What if I try my hardest and there was something that I was
supposed to do that I didn't know I was supposed to do, or I didn't have enough time to do,
or my energy ran out and I couldn't do it, you know, because we chose that we were responsible
for the outcome. When our resources ran out, we have to bear the consequences. And we're,
in a manner of speaking, we're alone having to bear them. Now, God doesn't leave us alone,
but I'm just trying to like paint this picture of like, we said that, no, Lord, we're responsible
for the outcome and the consequences. You're not. So God's like, okay, fine. So there's the
consequences now, you know, what are you going to do about it? And then, so you have to carry
them a bit. And anyway, does all of that make sense? It does. Yeah. So just remember that that's
what rest is, is rest is realizing and choosing that God's already done everything and there's
nothing left that's being required of you to do. It sounds like a different way of living.
And I have limited and period of time. So I'm trying to think, because several periods in my
life, I've gone for something in faith that I felt the Lord telling me to. And if I talk to
other people, and I tell what's going on in my life, I can hear and they tell me that it's crazy.
It's too much for a human being to go through. But because you're going in faith, and God told
you to give you the strength and things just happen, and you don't. So I know I have lived in
periods of times, but I've also experienced severe burnout, or it could be mixed up like you're going
in the flesh in some area, and you're going in faith, it's something God told you and something
else. And then you end up burning out. So I think that I don't live like it's not like a mathematical
question, how much time do I have? And how much can I spend? But a little bit of it, like, I just
it's like I live in the spirit and in faith part of the time. And then part of the time, I don't.
And if I get stressed or feel burnout, I go into the mathematic way. Yeah, now you've done too much.
Now you need to draw back, you need to say no to this and don't put on anything else. Yeah.
You go into like, cognitive thoughts that you learned here, positive psychology or
cognitive therapy, like those kind of ways of, or stress handling methods, all these kind of things
that you learned that you're saying, what you're teaching about, it's about the soul, but you're
not if you're not from a place of rest and govern over it. Yeah, make that subject to it.
And you use those kind of rules. Correct. What I think I do when I get scared, if I feel I'm
on my way to burnout or depression or something like that. Yeah, correct. Which you can still do,
you know, you can you can choose those, those principles and all of that. Because remember
that we're on a journey, and we're not there overnight. And so we're not there overnight,
we're on a journey, and we're not there overnight. Meaning like we're already there in spirit,
but we've our soul and our body have never done it before. So they're learning how to do that
they're learning to be they're learning what it is that they are, and how to walk in it.
And they've never done that before. So anyway, so we give them time and just realize, okay,
so burnout. So how can I handle this, I can handle it using the worldly principles of like,
okay, you stop and you create boundaries, you don't do this, etc. And also, some of those
things are just indications to us by the Lord that, hey, look, you're, you're doing more and
involved in more than I want you to be. Not that I couldn't help you do it. But, you know, I don't
want you to take I don't want all of the
these things to be things that you're spending your time, effort,
and energy on. I want you to be focused on some other things right now.
So, and then sometimes what, uh,
that's why we get burnt out is we're not given the grace for something.
Maybe if that's how you want to word that. I mean,
if that's how somebody wants to word that, um, but, um,
oh, there was something else I was going to say about that. Um, oh,
but one of the things that I recommend is when
you're going through burnout, or you think that you're about to,
you're think you're about to get to burnout or, or depression.
One of the things that you can do is before you make a decision about
what you want to,
to no longer be part of your life and your time and like,
take up your energy is just realize, okay,
the reason that I'm burnout is because I'm applying so much
of myself to this thing. In other words, I'm expending my energy.
I'm making myself responsible.
I believe that I'm responsible for the outcome of this thing, you know,
et cetera. And so we just get kind of get burned out.
So one of the things you can do is if you release yourself of the
responsibility of the outcome and know, okay, you know,
that's just not on me. That's on the Lord. So Lord, you know, God, God,
I just submit that to you. Does your sense of burnout relief?
And then is it kind of like, oh, okay, well,
now that I'm relieved myself of the,
of the obligation and the responsibility of the
outcome of the result of the consequence of my actions.
Now I'm not, I don't feel burnout anymore.
Now I'm fine with just doing it because I'm just doing the action.
I'm enjoying my Lord in living with my Lord, just doing this thing,
just going to work or going to church or doing this activity.
I can just enjoy it.
Now that the pressure is off from my
actions for, you know, the con,
the result that I get. So now I'm no longer burnout.
So now I don't need to stop doing something. I'm fine.
And then there might be other situations that where you relieve yourself of the
pressure and you're like, okay, God's taking care of the outcome.
It's not dependent anymore on my actions on whether or not on how I do it,
et cetera, and whether I got it right.
And as if like I have followed this perfect worldly formula in order to get this
result, you know, then,
then once you relieve yourself of that pressure, you might,
it might become very clear to you from the Lord that he's just like, Nope,
let that thing go. You know, don't, don't put a,
what we would refer to as the boundary in place, you know, just say, no,
don't take on this thing or this thing that you've taken on, let it go,
you know, no longer do that. Cut down your hours, do whatever.
But so we can,
so sometimes even when we relieved ourselves of the pressure,
that created the burnout, God still says, and we get,
and it becomes much more clear that God is saying, yeah,
just go ahead and let that thing go.
That's just not something that I have for you right now in this season,
but it's a lot.
You can hear God a lot more clearly when you, when you've come,
when you stepped out in faith with him,
that you're not responsible for the outcome, your actions aren't responsible.
Your knowledge, your wisdom, isn't determining the outcome.
You're letting God determine the outcome.
And then now you just get to enjoy applying your wisdom and your knowledge and
going through the action and just doing the thing.
And you'll enjoy it a lot more now that your actions no longer bear the pressure
of determining something based on how you do it.
Now you just have fun doing it. So anyway,
does that make sense?
Yeah, it does. It does make sense.
Cause remember that you're in the Lord, you abide in him.
And that the reason that it's that being in him is the place of rest is because
he's the all sustaining one.
He's the one from and he's the all sufficient one.
He's the one from whom everything that you need comes.
And so if you're in the being from whom everything comes,
there's nothing left for you to do because now he can do everything.
So that's it's true rest. There's nothing left for you to do.
So that's how you kind.
that's how you come into faith with the Lord, that you're not responsible for the outcome.
That he is, because you're in the one who provides all of the energy and spirit to
determine the results of something. Or to at least protect you or,
or, and provide for you. If part of the factors that determine the result was the fact that
you're in a sinful world that where other people were involved and their actions determined that
the outcome was X, Y, and Z. Well, that meant a consequence for you. And like, well, my goodness,
that then affected your life in this way. Well, God will take care of that. He'll take the
responsibility for the fact that you are being affected by other people's choices, which
determined the outcome, you know, et cetera. That's still another aspect of the outcome that
God's holding himself responsible for. But what if it's like, like deep issues,
rejection that triggers you. And obviously, because
that's not something I don't know quite how to handle because I am in, I have been prayed for
many times and I, and I have received healing. But it's still there. And like yesterday, I,
these things do happen when you feel really rejected by someone. And it triggers you and you
yeah, fall out of, or somehow get out of rest. And
because that would be an area where God would need to heal you. Right. So you're not so triggered.
I'm just trying to think aloud. Yeah. Kind of like,
so for the rejection, and that's just not something I've really been addressing here.
So let me address it now that rejection, that's that feeling that, you know, that we're
being identified by, or by somebody else's response to us. We're allowing their response
to us in a way to define or identify us, to let us, to affirm us, to let us know something about
ourselves or to, because sometimes what we believe that people are doing is that they're responding
to who it is that we are. And, and sometimes it's just, it's other things that are going on.
They're responding to who it is that they think they are, you know, and then they reject, and
then they're acting in rejection of you because there's, they've moved into self-preservation
mode because, because they're dealing with rejection or whatever. But anyway so what,
what I do in those times where I feel rejected is I'm like, okay, Lord, I just shift into
choosing that. I am, I am who he says that I am, that I am one with him, that I am perfect,
that I am spirit. I'm not my soul or my body. I, there's nothing wrong with me. He delights in me
without me having to do anything. Even when I do things that are sinful, he doesn't stop talking to
me. He's still, you know, that I have an intrinsic value in who I am that's disconnected from what I
do or how I act or whatever. And then that, and so I just, I basically just choose that I am as
valuable, significant, and good as God in reality, as God says that I am. And I have to remember that
I'm spirit. I'm not my soul or my body because sometimes my soul or my body is in major turmoil.
And so if I'm identifying with that, then I feel awful. I feel ugly, meaning like I feel
bad. I feel wicked. I feel whatever. And I have to remember, I have to choose, okay, but if God
says that's not who I am, then I have to choose that I am who God said that I am, which is spirit.
And I'm having to make a choice that that is true, not a hope-filled, not a decision that,
okay, well, maybe I can hope for that. No, I actually have to.
make it, um, make it to be true for myself.
I decide that that is the reality of the world in which I live.
I choose that that is my truth.
You know how the new age is talk about the fact that, you know, you're like,
Oh, well, everybody has their own truth.
Think of it kind of like that, because even though, you know, truth is not
subjective, just like the Israelites, they got to choose which covenant that
they wanted to go with.
That's what we're talking about.
We're talking about that kind of truth.
Do we choose that?
Do we choose the covenant, the interaction with him and the truth that, that our
lives are dependent on our relationship with him, or are we choosing instead that
our lives are dictated by what it is that we do and how well we do it?
You know,
so that helps.
Yeah.
So that means that even if when I get rejected and it hits something you, and
you suddenly are in pain or you're not thinking rationally and you get hit with,
and you react, maybe you say something you shouldn't have said, and then you
handle something well, and you handle something not that well, kind of the
turmoil of the emotional things that happen in your mind and in your soul.
And in your body kind of to go surpass all that and be like, but I am in God
and I'm one with God and my soul is in emotional turmoil right now, and I'm
making lots of good and bad and whatever decisions, and I feel a lot of things
and I don't know right from wrong in this, but to not go into it and kind of
dissect it, to kind of surpass it and like, I'm one with Christ, and I am
perfect, I'm in the spirit, I can have rest in this, I can have total clarity
and peace.
Yeah, choose that that's your value and significance.
Yeah.
Is that what you're saying?
Yeah, yeah.
Choose that that's your value and your significance that it's that, you know,
you're of that importance to the Lord, you have that meaning, that weight of
meaning to the Lord, you've got weight to you, you've got substance, you've got as,
you know, and, and you choose that, that that is actually who you are.
And disconnect or disassociate who you are from how they're acting with you.
Now, there can be something you know, you can address later about, okay, well, why
are they acting that way with me, you know, or, and then how should I respond
and whatever, you know, that all can be done, quote, unquote, later, the first
thing, you know, for yourself is choose, okay, I choose that I that if God says
that I'm valuable, that I actually am valuable, I make myself valuable to me, I
choose that that is true, because it won't feel like it will want to say, Oh,
well, I wish that that were true, or I hope it's hope it's true.
And that won't work.
We have to make an intentional decision that it is true.
We make it up.
So it will feel like we're making it up.
What if you make a mistake?
Like, I make mistakes, I feel rejected.
And then I do things in my emotions, correct?
Same thing, because your your identity is not determined by what you do.
So you're not your soul and say things are, even if I should, like I react to
rejection in not a loving way, or you do something that you shouldn't have done.
Yeah.
Even if you sin, because remember, your spirit cannot sin.
According to James, he mentions in James that he was born of God, because
remember, spirit is born of spirit.
So your spirit is born of God's spirit.
And it says he was born for he was born of God.
It is impossible for him to sin.
So your spirit cannot sin.
So who it is that you are that your identity is in your spirit, who
it is that you are cannot sin.
So even if your soul and your body are sinning, which simply means that you're
an unbelief simply means that you don't believe that you are who God says that
you are, that God isn't fully true.
You're scared.
And so you start acting out of that.
Only your soul and your body are acting out of that.
Your spirit is not.
So even when you're intentionally sinning, you can still choose.
Yeah, but that doesn't have anything to do with who I am with my identity.
That's a big challenge and your whole life will completely change when you.
yourself in situations in which you are doing something, not something's being done to you,
you were doing something. And in the middle of that, you choose that you are who God says that
you are, and that you're not the sin. And you're not the one sinning your soul and your body are,
but who you are, isn't spinning. That if you make, if you realize that, and you make that choice
in the middle of being in sin, like in other words, you're, you know, that will change everything.
I think I, I think I in partly responded wrongly to the rejection. And I think I feel awful about
it. That's because I, I listened to her and took it all in. But the rejection sometimes when it
hits me, I just respond. I don't, it's like I lose kind of cognitive thinking or common sense
and love and everything. So I started analyzing it. And I started analyzing what she could like
I did, I don't think I sinned, but I analyzed it. And I'm like, yeah, you reject me like that.
And I responded that to her, did you reject me because of this and this and this and this,
and then she says, no, it's not, that's not it. And then it caused more confusion,
because now she feels like I'm portraying things on her that she never intended.
So then I kind of caused a little bit of a ruckus, and I feel horrible for analyzing it
and coming with like all my suggestions, and it comes out of a wound, like I feel rejected,
and I need to control it and understand it. And like, why would you do that? And then I put that
on her, and then it doesn't respond in her. So then she reacts to what I write. And I just thought
when I sent it to her, I thought, I don't think I'm in the spirit now. But I just have to write
it like I just, it's something that just hits you so deep that you can't stop yourself. Because
you're so in a way, hurt or thrown off. But I kind of knew, if I was honest, that I was not
in my spirit, this was not a response in the spirit. And it wasn't an attack, it was really
nicely written, wasn't anything bad. But it still was very soulish. And now I feel horrible for not
being more mature, and for not responding in the spirit, that at the time, I didn't know how to
respond in the spirit. I responded in my soul, from my soul or from my flesh, not like in a
sinful way. But it didn't help the situation. And then I feel horrible for not being more mature,
and I'm older than her, and I should have handled it better. I should have waited until
I was in rest before I responded. I shouldn't respond out of rejection wound. So then I feel
I attacked myself for being immature, and that I should have known better. And also feel,
oh no, I opened up way too much about too many things. And also I think I feel a little bit
humiliated in it, because I wanted to, yeah, I don't know, just, I feel just stupid in it.
Yeah, because you offered something vulnerably, and it wasn't received.
Yeah, and it wasn't received, and it probably wasn't right even. So I think this happens a lot,
that's why I'm putting weight to it now, because this is what happens a lot in my life,
that I don't, something happens, and I don't necessarily sin, sometimes I do, but I respond
out from my soul. And it might sound really wise what I said, but it's, and it's, it doesn't,
but there's just, but it doesn't resolve anything, and it comes from a hurt place.
Yeah, well, just remember, you know, even in a situation, you know, in a situation like that,
where you're doubting what it is that you, the, I don't know, the wisdom, or the rest,
or whatever of what you did, and you know, the trust and faith in the Lord of what you did,
even if you're doubting all that, you're just, no shame, no condemnation. It doesn't identify who
you are, and it doesn't determine who you are, and that you're, that you're bad, or that you,
whatever. It's just like, okay, well, that's just where my soul, poor little thing,
is right now in the process. And so.
And, but in order to give your soul what it needs, because it needs healing and it needs protection. In order to give it that you have to shift from from identifying with it, you can't identify with it.
You know, you have to identify with your spirit in order to give your soul what it needs. You can't identify as your soul in order to give it what it needs, because you have to be the parent of it.
It's like what, same principle of what God did with Moses, when Moses was born of the Israelites. So in other words, he wasn't Israelite, but in order to be prepared as the leader of the Israelites, he could not have ever been a slave.
So it's the same kind of an idea. God made sure that he didn't ever spend time as a slave. He was raised in the royal household, and then he was taken out to the wilderness in order to learn humility.
And then, and then he could lead the Israelites out, but the only way that he could, is he had to have connection with them, and the fact that he shared the same blood, but he could not have operated as they did.
He could not have been a slave. And that's the only way that he was equipped to be an appropriate leader to lead them out. He could not have been enslaved to the same thing that he was freeing them from.
So it's the same thing with you and your spirit, soul, and body, is in order to be what your soul needs, because you just saw what it is that your soul, the state that your soul is in, and it just needs to be parented.
It just needs to know that it's safe, that it doesn't have to do all of this work to provide for and protect itself. It wasn't equipped to have to do that.
And so it's bearing something that it wasn't equipped to bear, and being held responsible by God to bear. So that's the spirit's job. So you have to identify outside of the soul in order to be the parent for it.
So all that this has done is to show you, hey, this is where your soul is right now. You know, this is what it thinks is required of it in order to do a good job of protecting you.
It's trying to do the right thing, and it's trying to apply all the wise and worldly principles that it knows of and that it was taught of how to handle these types of situations.
And now you're just learning that there's something higher, and that your soul doesn't have to live in that kind of bondage, that kind of slavery to itself, to its emotions, and to be identified as how it feels.
So anyway, if you just choose that you are not what you feel, and you're not what you believe, remember what you believe, in other words, what you think. I don't mean faith.
What you think, what you believe is your soul. It's not your spirit. It's not who you are. So you are above your beliefs. So you're not what you believe. You're not what you feel. It's just what you believe and what you feel in your soul.
So just don't identify with it and then feel bad about yourself as a result of what your soul is going through. And so that's how you just kind of deal with that. So once you no longer identify with it, how do you want to handle the situation from here?
Now that you are not what your rejection felt like that you were, now that you're not that, how do you want to handle this situation with your friend? You know, now that you're no longer, because in other words, if you don't identify with that, you're no longer threatened.
Okay.
You know, now how do you feel threatened in a way you're feeling rejected, feeling you need to protect yourself, threatened, and you in a way want to either shut down or attack it back or, yeah, but actually you're not attacked, and you're not threatened.
Yeah.
Actually, I'm in a place of peace in God. And I'm not, my soul, my soul might feel threatened, but me in the spirit is not threatened.
Correct.
From the spirit, I can think clearly about it in a different way than I would, than if I would have to like, how am I going to deal with this?
Yes.
By the book and all the things I've taught and the wisdom and all the knowledge and all those things.
Yeah.
Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. Yeah.
Because then you're kind of just.
free. Yeah. When I meet her again, there's no need to feel
hurt. Or like, of course, if you feel hurt, you feel hurt. But
there's no need to feel threatened, feel threatened by
her. Yeah. Or didn't do. Yeah. Yeah. Even by myself feel
threatened by my own feelings. Exactly. Yeah. Because that is,
I think, too, I feel threatened by myself.
Correct. I was gonna say, it's very important for us to not be
afraid of ourselves. That is extremely important. In fact,
it's one of the things that sometimes I walk people through
is how to choose themselves. So that they're remember, that's
that last video that I posted, you know, how to not how to
choose oneself. In other words, to not to value oneself and
understand that you're not that there's nothing about you to be
afraid of, to not be threatened by you. In other words, and to
allow to not be threatened by your feelings, to not be afraid
to face them. Yeah, I come out. Yeah. Yeah. And there's no need
to be afraid of your feelings, because you're not your
feelings. And your feelings are a result of what it is that
you're believing. They're simply indicating to you what it is you
believe there's nothing wrong with your feelings. They're
simply telling you something about what you believe. But
you're not your feelings. And you're not even the result of
your not the result, the cause of your feelings, which is
belief, your whatever, you're not your beliefs either. So
you're not anything that you're experiencing in the in your
feelings and your belief. You're actually above all of that. And
you can be the parent of and provide for all of what it is
that that your soul is believing in feeling, etc. So there's no
need to be afraid of you what you feel, or what you believe,
because it's not you anyway. So they can't threaten you. You
know, it's just an aspect of you that that starts to act a
particular way. Because it thinks that it's not who God
says that it is. So it's acting in unbelief. And so it's just
afraid. So what happened when the three men came out and
attacked me verbally attacked me. And I kind of know that I'm
okay. And I don't have to be afraid. Yeah, they're kind of
saying something. And it's kind of like there's like a bubble
around you. And it's not really hitting you. Yeah. But for some
reason, I don't care about them. So it's easier with them. Of
course, it's much harder when it's a close friend that
suddenly rejects you. So but it's kind of the same thing.
You're just as protected. Yeah. As I felt in the situation with
the three men on the road. It's just that it's harder. I know,
because it's personal. Correct. And you have relationship now
understand that you may be affected by other people simply
because it's relationship. It's like, because you don't, you
want connection, you don't want disconnection. But there is a
way to where you will still feel things in response to someone
else. That doesn't, but without it affecting your identity, your
sense of identity, without you feeling threatened. So there can
still be pain and hurt because you don't want the disconnect
that you're feeling like there is right now of like, there's
miscommunication, there's we're not connecting on some level.
And it's what I would imagine that Jesus experienced again,
with the disciples or with Judas. And Jesus didn't feel
that his I didn't allow his sense of identity to be
threatened. And yet, you know, that, that, that, that he was
still, you know, hurt when with with Judas and the disciples. I
mean, remember what he said when Judas came and kissed him, you
know, to identify him to the Roman soldiers. And, and he
said, Oh, what did he say? How did he wear that? But basically
something like, like, Oh, I don't remember what he said.
And something about, you know, and you, you know, this is and
you to Judas, or this is what you would do Judas or, but
anyway, you can, you could just get this sense of like, like,
you wouldn't mind.
There was something you have a disconnect in the relationship. And, and so anyway,
we're still that will still affect us simply because that's the nature of relationship. But
we can feel those things without associating them with an identity. And without our sense of
identity being threatened. We're so used to allowing to those feelings of disconnect and
relationship being attached to our sense of identity, but they can be separated.
Our sense of identity and feeling threatened can be separated from being affected by relationship
of like, oh, I'm feeling this disconnect. And I don't want to feel this disconnect. And I don't
like this, you know, well, I want to try to draw, recreate connection, you know, that's all fine.
Um, but that's not, that's not, that's just like desiring relationship that we're not allowing
that to determine and to change what it is that we believe about what God says is true.
We're not allowing that to, um, to change our faith in God.
Hmm. It's just a disconnect in the relationship, having nothing whatsoever to do with whether or
not we're believing God. So yeah, it doesn't change our, our, um, our acceptance of the truth.
So it just be like, oh, I wanted to be connected, not connected. I don't like that. What can we do
to restore relationship? What is it that they need? You know, what would I like to ask for from
them for me? Yeah. It's just relationship. Hmm. Yeah. So good. Yeah. So hope all that was helpful.
Yeah, it was. I was just wondering if you also, because I was watching, uh, the different ways
to shift into rest. And I think I get the no shame, no condemnation. I think I get stop.
I think I get no judgment, but I don't know if you could just quickly explain them more like,
like the last ones, the last ones to choose and then go with your spirit finds peace and then,
um, declare and go where your soul finds peace. So choosing and going where your spirit finds
peace. That is choosing to believe that what God says is true. And then stepping out in faith
on that, like, okay, then that's what I'm going to choose is true. And if I believe that that's true,
what would I do? That's what that one is. The declaring and going where your soul finds peace
is what you do. If you're having a hard time choosing and having faith in God about something,
if you're just not there yet, you just do it, you know, because you don't want to desire to have
faith in God about something and step out on it because you want to believe God. You don't want
to step out on something like that, because if you don't believe God, then you won't be supported
when you step out because, because think of it like coming to the edge of a cliff or something
where your faith, believing that what God says is true is it creates a stepping stone out in the
void so that when you act on it, you've got something to step on. But if you, if you don't
have faith in it and God just said it, but you don't have faith in it and you're like, okay,
but he said it. So I'll, I'll, so if, if what he says is true, then I'll be taken care of. Okay.
So I'll just act on it, but because you didn't believe it, you don't have any support and you
just fall because you acted on something that God said, because you wish that you could believe it.
So you're going to, in your desperation, you know, in your reckless abandonment to be obedient,
you're going to act like it, but you don't have the belief behind you, the faith to support
the action. So that's why so, so often we're like, we'll see, I did what God said that he
wanted me to do. And it failed. It's like, yeah, because you didn't believe it. You know,
it's your belief. In other words, your faith that gives you the support to step out on.
But of course, what it is, that's giving our, our belief, the support is the fact that God said,
but we have to have both of them in place in order to be supported when we step out. So the point is
if you, if you know what God says, says, but you're like, I'm having a difficult time,
actually really having faith. I mean, really.
and truly, I wish I could believe it. I wish I had the faith for it, but Lord,
I'm just not at that place. And I've told the Lord that before I'm like, um, Lord, you know, I,
I wish I know that I should have quote unquote, I know that you're calling me to have faith in
you about this, but I am just not at the place where I can really, truly believe it. I just,
I know I'm sorry, Lord, but that's just where I'm at. Well, then I don't need to be acting on it
if I don't actually believe it. So what I, but I want to make some kind of progress. So what I do
is I just declare that what he says is true. I'm like, okay, I don't believe it yet, Lord,
but I'm going to, I'm going to shoot. I'm going to declare that if you say that it's true,
then it's true, but I don't have enough belief behind me to actually be able to act on it,
but I'll declare it. So it's a bit further down the road and then you go where your soul finds
peace. So what do you have support for? If you don't have the faith to support you, if you step
out, then don't step out. So what can you do here? What aspect can you come into agreement with God
about to what degree can you believe that he's good and then act on that on the degree to which
you can believe he's good. Maybe he wants you to believe he's this good. You're like, God,
I can't believe that you're that good yet, but I can't believe that you're this good. So I will
declare that you are this good, but I will only act according to where my faith currently is.
Just go where, and the way that I refer to it is that go to where your soul finds peace.
Hmm. In other words, um, if you're, uh, what, to what degree is your soul agreeing with God
act on that, just act on the degree to which your soul can come into agreement and can believe God.
So that's what that is. Does that make sense? Yes, it does. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's that
that's kind of like the catch all, what do you do if nothing shifts you into rest?
Yeah. Well, then you do the last one. So in other words, you're just struggling to have faith to the
degree that, you know, God's inviting you to. Okay. If you can't, if none of those things help
you, if none of those things, if you don't have enough faith to do the no shame and no condemnation
and that to shift you into the right interest or the stop or the no judgment or the choose and go
with your spirit finds peace. Well, then what's the catch all, what do I do? If none of those
things work in this particular situation, because I'm just not there yet, declare what God says is
true. So you can't choose it, but you can declare it. So declare it and then go and then step out
in the degree of faith that you do have and go where your soul finds peace. Where does your soul
feel? What will make your soul feel safe? Yeah. And then always be declaring that God is that good
and that he's so good that he's given you a fallback, which is what he did with the prodigal
son. The father is so good that when the prodigal son demanded, he have his inheritance now and take
it and run away. The father gave it to him. That's what that last choice is. He's like, okay,
I want to make sure that you're provided for. So I'm going to give you a means by which you can
provide for yourself. That's what that choosing, that's what that declaring is and going where
your soul finds peace. It's God giving you your inheritance and you finding what you can do that
will help your soul get the peace that it needs. What is your soul relying on? It's relying on
medication or it's relying on more time or it's relying on conserved energy or it's relying on
more sleep. It's relying on something. It thinks that something out there is going to give it what
it needs to declare that God is good and that he's so good that he's given you the gift of providing
you with sleep or energy or, you know, or whatever, and then take, take, take him up on it,
receive that gift, but receive it as a good, as a good gift from a good father, not as, okay,
God, because I don't trust you, I'm going to choose this, choose that. That's what he gave you
because you didn't have enough faith to choose that he would provide it for you in another way.
Yeah, that makes sense. He provided it for you built into the earth. Yeah. Because our God is
the one who created the kingdom, the principles of the kingdom of this world. You know how we always
talk about the fact that they're, that they're evil, the kingdom of this world, so to speak,
is not evil. God just said, don't rely.
lie on it. It's the, it's the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. God create just
like in Romans seven, the law is holy. There's nothing wrong with that tree. God doesn't
create bad things. There's nothing wrong with the principles of business and finance and
relationships and all these other things that psychologists and psychiatrists and educators
teach us about who created the way you created the world to work like that God did. And he
doesn't create bad things, but what he said is don't think that they will save you that
knowing all of those things and all those principles and using those principles and
being wise and that, that, that those actions are creating your outcome and determining
your outcome, rely on me to determine the outcome and be responsible for it. And then
just, then just enjoy operating in the principles and following those formulas, et cetera. But
don't think that it's the formula that's creating the results and that you need the formula
in order to get a particular result. He's like, no, no, no. You need me now that you
have me. And now that I'm creating the result, what formula do we want to use? What would
be fun? What aspect of creation do we want to allow to be part of the process?
That's so good. It's for instance, if I, I have faith that I'm not going to use anything
to fall asleep and then it gets late and I'm going to get up early and you, I kind of like
to God, Oh, I know I probably would be better to just stay in it and just trust you that
I'm going to be okay with four hours sleep tomorrow. I just don't have the faith for
it. So I'll use this tablet to fall asleep. Yeah. So thank you for providing the principles
by which this works. And then afterwards, the next night I can have faith and all right.
And I have faith. And then I go through the night and I'm fine with four hours sleep the
next morning because sometimes you just don't have the faith and then you just choose some
things. Yeah. Yeah. It's kind of like, kind of like, okay, well God, you know, I don't
believe that you're so good that you are, that you are, uh, that you can help me sleep
without the tablet. So I will, I mean, just because you're having, you're struggling to
have that faith right now, you know, but God, I do believe that you are so good that you
would give me a means by which to make it myself. So you're, so you receive that tablet
as God being good to you. In other words, you're coming to an agreement with him and
his goodness to the degree that you can. It's like, okay, well, I can believe God that you're
good to this degree. I can believe that. I just can't believe that right now. Um, so
while we're working on that Lord, but until then I'm going to receive that as opposed
to taking the tablet because God's not good. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Believing God's good
that this is proof that he's good. Take it as his goodness, as opposed to because he's
not good. You know, that's makes all the difference in the world. God's like, I want you to come
into agreement with me that I am who I say that I am. So to what degree can you do that?
Yeah. So it's not about what we do and don't do. It's are we coming into agreement with God
in doing it? So good. That was very clarifying. Good. You're welcome. Well, I will see you next
week then. And then you let me know if you have any questions and, um, uh, I am going to send you,
um, something. Did I ever send you the little write-up of the practical shifting tools?
Okay. Well, I'm going to post that for you. Um, it's, it's basically the, it's basically session
seven in written form. Oh, so what it is that I just talked about, it's that in written form,
it goes through all of them, you know, no shame, no condemnation, stop, no judgment. I, I, I
explain it all. Yeah. So anyway, I'll post that for you as well. Thank you. And, um, I think we've
had five sessions, but I would love to talk to you next week, but yeah, we'll talk next week.
Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. We'll do it every week. Thank you so much. You're welcome.
I don't know. I don't know how to thank you. I feel really touched. Good. Well, I'm glad I
wanted to ask you, it's like, well, how are things going? Is it, you know,
Oh, I get a little bit emotional. It's, um, the summer, uh, I was a very, very.
low point, and physically and mentally. And the only thing I
felt like gave me any life was your teaching.
Oh, really? I'm so glad it was that.
Yeah, it was like, kind of like, and I've grown up in the church,
I've heard tons and tons and tons of teaching in all
directions. Yeah, charismatic, conservative, liberal, all kinds
of things. And also with doctors and shrinks and mental health
and counselors and everything. And just whatever, ever I went,
whether it was news or entertainment, or it was
spiritual, I just felt like there was nothing that really
touched my soul or my spirit. Yeah. And then I found through
the podcast posture, I found some of your teaching. And I was
like, there's just something in there that I find life in,
that's just touching me. And I don't think even I knew what it
was, because it was so deep. And I'm really close to my parents
and family, and I couldn't tell them for months. Because it was
like, so deep in me that I couldn't kind of articulate it.
Yeah, onto people around me now I can, but at that point, I
couldn't. Yeah, thing in that that was just like touching
something really deep in me and kind of giving me hope that I
let go of because 20 years without being fully healed. Yeah,
there was just some kind of hope that was lost. And then I'm
like, maybe I don't have to live this way. Yeah, yeah.
Exactly. I'm so glad I was really wanting to check in and
touch base with you and make sure you know, see how you were
doing and where you were in the process. So you're feeling
you're feeling the the relief of all of that pressure and
oppression, you're starting to you're feeling all of that. Okay,
good. It's just something we continue to walk in. But I'm
wanting people to already start living it while they're in the
rest intensive, not like a learn how to do it. And then they're
off on their own. You know, like, I want to actually walk
with them through it so that they're actually living it while
they're in the rest intensive. And then me give them what did
it give help them own the understand own, own that message
of rest with their father enough where they know where they know
without me having to, they know how to continue to live like
that, and interact like that with the Lord after the rest
intensive, even when they run into situations that we haven't
talked about, you know, specifically, like they because
they understand and they own what it what rest really means
as opposed to, oh, it's a new set of rules that you follow or
something. It's like, no, no, it's just, it's a new
perspective. And it's a choice of having faith in the Lord that
he really is that good. And then choosing to interact with
him, according to how good he says that he is and loving and
all of that. So, so, okay, I'm so glad that it's been helpful.
So yeah.
Yeah, I'll talk to you later. I hope you have a good day. You
too. Bye.