I can't hear you.
If you tap on the screen, the menu should pop up on the bottom and then click the audio.
Which should say mute versus unmute.
Well.
Okay, so now, I can't, I can't hear you. That is so weird.
Okay, wait, say it one more time.
Can you hear me now.
Now I can hear you. Okay, good.
That was weird.
How are you.
I'm doing pretty good.
Going well.
It is. Yes.
It's been, it's been busy but it's been good.
Yeah.
Well, it feels, it feels weird to see, you know, so often so many days in a row.
Right, I know. Yesterday that today.
So what, what is it that you would like to talk about or address or, or, I don't know, questions about or on your heart or going through or.
I don't know.
I didn't think about that before I got on here and I was like, it was kind of like, I don't really know like I feel like I'm in a good place right now.
I feel like I'm in a good place like how, like a lot of times I just kind of forget about it. And I just, and I don't, I guess I want to say, I don't do work to stay in this place do I need to do work to stay in this place.
Does that make sense.
Yeah, it does.
And we definitely don't want to do work to be in the place, obviously, but you do want to.
You want to live in that rest, and in that, that choice that belief and choice between in that experience basically between you and the Lord, that you are always loved that he's loving on you right now so in other words, always enjoying everything
being something you and God are doing together. So enjoying him all the time as opposed to putting him on the shelf until you're going through a hard time, and you go find him.
It's learning to live life where you and he are always where your life focus is the development of your relationship with them, not in the okay now I'm doing life.
And then I need to remember to just keep this thing with God good so that my life means that things are easier. It's like you it's shifting into no longer choosing your life as your highest priority and and choosing instead, you and God are developing
relationship, and then living and existing together in the spirit, all the time.
But, but we'll still be continuing the development of that relationship but even then I don't believe that our lives are going to look like they do now.
You know that family units are going to operate and look in the same way then as they do now I believe that's a particular life experience in a way that we're going through that we're just going through this experience for however many years, because
it is part of the development process you know etc or not development process it's just part of them.
Just the way that God has set up creation to for us to process through and to walk through that, you know, God says that in heaven, he says that there is no such thing as as being married and being given a marriage and etc.
Then, but that same but the thing that stays the same throughout is we're always developing our relationship with him, regardless of the circumstance or situation that we're in, whether it is before creation during creation, or after we die.
So, so
The whole point, even during creation is the development of our relationship.
So, okay.
It's not that the other things aren't valuable and special.
It's that they're not the point, the other's the point.
And it's through living that way that it affects this, that it affects, you know,
our family and our children or whatever.
Um, yeah, the whole point isn't that to make this better.
The whole point is living this.
And then this happens to get gain all of the benefits of the
development of our relationship with the Lord.
So yeah, in fact, it's in the best when things are good, that's the easiest and
the best time to do what it is that we're trying to do in the hard times.
In fact, it makes it easier to do when the hard times is it's all set up.
And, um, in the good times when things are easier, um, then it makes, it
strengthens us so that in the hard times we're more prepared, we're more familiar
with how to let go or how to, how to be remembering, you know, remembering, not
like we're trying to remind ourselves, but just our awareness of, and our choice
that I am living life, developing my relationship with the Lord, God, how do
we, you know, going, in other words, going to the grocery store and walking up and
down the aisles with the Lord and picking out rice and then picking out, you know,
dah, dah, dah, you're not alone anymore.
Hmm.
So it's that kind of a thing.
And that's what we focus on during the times is I'm alone.
I mean, I'm alone.
I'm loved.
I'm enough, you know, he's delighting in me right now.
Things are, things are, um, they really, they, and it's easier for us to
believe that when things are going good.
Um, so yeah.
So yeah, like I said, it's a new lifestyle.
Right.
So I'll just talk a lot about the pain part because that's, um, that's some,
that's the times where we are more likely are more usually triggered to be seeking
the Lord and where people realize, oh yeah, things aren't okay, deep down inside
me, because in the good times they think that they're okay, but that's kind of
similar to the fact that you just aren't feeling it anymore.
And then in the pain feelings come to the surface and oh my goodness, you know,
we it's the problems are still there.
The unbelief is still there, even when we don't feel it and everything feels good.
So we just need to continue to choose God.
This is mine.
This is my choice.
My choice is that you are my highest priority.
You are my, my focus.
I wake up every morning thinking, okay, me and God, we're living this life together.
Okay, God, what are we doing now?
Okay.
We're going in and we're taking a shower and then we're now we're doing this.
And it's just this awareness and this choice that you're just always enveloped
in and exist within his love and his delight and the two of y'all are doing
stuff together, et cetera.
And it's a lot easier to be clear about direction from the Lord as
well, when we're in that place.
Okay.
That makes sense.
Yeah.
So like my experience, so I had an experience, gosh, it was probably two or
three months ago at the dentist is all these, it sounds, um, where I literally
heard the audible voice of God for like, it was audible in what.
It was audible to me, not to anyone around me.
Um, but I also heard Satan in one ear and the Lord and the other.
And it was the point where I was literally bawling in that dentist chair and they had
to take a break from what they were doing.
Luckily they're Christians and they were totally like, just with me in it.
But he said so many things that just confirmed, confirmed a lot.
And I go back to that time a lot when I'm feeling like I can't hear him.
Like, where, where are you Lord?
I want to hear you.
Um, and that's kind of what happened yesterday when I just felt a freedom
from him to choose, um, yeah.
And I felt the condemnation.
Like I literally on my right side of my body is where I heard the voice of
at the dentist and it's always on the right side of my body where I feel
condemnation, fear, and the Lord is always on the left side.
And that's where I always feel loved and freedom.
I love, um, I love, which is like, that's so weird.
But no, it makes total sense.
Most people aren't that sensitive and aware.
That's amazing.
So my, I guess my, I, it comes and it goes like, I know he's still speaking to
me right when I don't hear him.
Um, and trying like, I'm trying to figure out how to be more sensitive.
And I think a lot of that does have to do with believing and
choosing that I am loved that.
he loves me. I'm loved to the extent that he says I am. I mean do you have any like
feedback on what helps you like just stay so you can you can keep you just you just hear him
and it's not like okay where are you? Well one thing is that I remember that that my relationship
with Lord or the way that things work when I interact with him is based off the fact that
we're two beings. There's not a formula. So one of the things that I had to had to remember is
when I was wanting always wanting that connection. I was always wanting him to be there. I was wanting
a quote-unquote experience when I quote-unquote needed it. You know like okay Lord I'm really
needing an answer. You know then I want I want a I want to be able to count on or depend on x y and
z to and the way that I would work in my mind and in my emotions was I wanted to be able to predict
in other words be able to control the outcome when I when I felt like it when I needed it when
I was struggling when I was whatever but one of the things I had to realize is when things didn't
work the same way all the time. I didn't always hear him. I couldn't always get the same response
or the same experience by doing the same thing every time. I had to remember okay my relationship
with God my interaction with him is based off the fact that he's a being not a formula or not a genie
or something that okay like a plug and play. So in other words I had to kind of stop expecting
a predictable chain of events. I need I want I ask I hear even if you know I'm on quote-unquote
right relationship and everything's good and I'm believing he loves me etc. I have to remember okay
he's a being so that means that so my point is that that helped me release the expectation of
a formulaic predictable outcome because if if it's formulaic and it's predictable that means
I'm controlling it. It means I figured it out and I'm trying to figure out how to utilize it to my
benefit and I'm not meaning to make a sound like sinful or bad or whatever for wanting that. I'm
just trying to point out the fact that the difference between the fact that God says he
is always there and us and we can and he is always talking to us and kind of realizing and stop
holding him like an accusation against him if we can't hear him because that accusation comes from
the fact that we've decided oh I've now figured God out and I can predictably follow this particular
chain of events towards getting the type of outcome or response from him that I'm wanting
when I want it and I have to I have to let that go as well. So in other words
and that that helped me kind of release him from that emotionally from having that kind of
obligation towards me so there uh so there's that um and then some and then I thought there
was something else I was going to say based off of um there were two things there was that one
there was another one I was going to say related to that about like because what was your question
was your question why can't we sometimes hear him is that what you were asking or what yeah
like he feels far away or like I can't connect yeah okay um also sometimes where
we're um God's answer to us isn't always uh isn't always what we expect sometimes we are just
wanting what we believe is a very easy direct answer to our question and instead God is very
aware of what's behind the question um or like say for instance it's about a particular situation
like for instance God you know what what should I do should I leave my job and go to a new job
should I should I whatever unless let's just use that as an example and we think that it's very
clear and straightforward answer from the Lord yes leave your job yes go to this when you're
God you're going God why can't you just tell me that so God I'm coming to you and I feel like I
don't have an answer for you from you and really he's just like no it's not about you being at this
job and not and or going to this job that's not really all that's going on here it's what's
happening in you and how are you and I developing
our relationship and then how do we want to express that into the world? And part of that
expression is the process we go through between releasing this job and all the things spiritually
and in our soul that's going on with our connections job, releasing it, traversing and
taking this journey of like finding a new job and the people that we meet along the way and
what happens in our heart and our relationship with the Lord and accusation that comes up and
the way that God performs the miracle and then this new thing that comes that this new job that
reveals itself and there's there's a journey that God wants us to take and so he's not going to
always tell us a direct answer he's just wants us to just lean on him just know okay you and I are
just doing it just know that you and I are doing it not that not without me having to without me
just simply telling you by the way this is where what's going on and this is where you're going
just trust me because I want you to trust me not your knowledge of what's going on in order to give
you security so often we are looking for clarification because we're using our knowledge
of what's going on God am I supposed to leave am I supposed to leave now am I supposed to
go to the new thing now what is the new thing you know what am I supposed to do
we have a tendency to look at at the knowledge of those things to give ourselves a sense of safety
security and then we we don't um there's an aspect of the Lord of a deeper trust that
he desires us to have in him that we're not having in him because we're we're we are
comforted by the knowledge and feeling safe because of the knowledge of okay now I know
what's going on and sometimes God's going I want you to trust me and be at rest without you having
to know what's going on without you understanding etc and that's what Adam and Eve were tempted with
with the tree of the knowledge of good and evil it's not the tree of good and evil it's the tree
of the knowledge of it and so that we tend to look at and think that oh well God isn't good enough
for me meaning like he says he's going to create the outcome yeah but what is the outcome am I
going to like the outcome how is that outcome going to come from about what am I going to have
to go through before I get there do I like that why does that make me feel safe etc and we don't
like that lack of control so we choose knowledge hey if I know what's going on I can comfort myself
you know if I if I know where we're going then I can expect then I can prove but then I can
know how to adjust my expectations because I depend so much on my expectations I know how
to adjust my expectations so that I can protect myself in other words all this work is we're
doing it all on our own I can protect myself against disappointment instead of relying on
the Lord to protect us from disappointment to protect us from I don't know certain things
happening to protect us from you know whatever so in other words this stuff this are this reliance
on knowledge oh that is a very loud bird this reliance on knowledge goes to a very deep level
it's not just it's not just knowledge of what is right to do and what's wrong to do it's knowledge
of just our awareness of things that we take security in that's people's greatest fear is
the fear of the unknown that's why they don't like death it's not that death is necessarily
so bad to some people because they would prefer it to their current situation if certain some of
them their current situations are just so bad but even Shakespeare wrote about this in Hamlet
Hamlet was contemplating suicide and then in one of him and one of Shakespeare's most famous
passages eight it's you know to be or not to be that's what that's questioning he's questioning
he's questioning to be in other words to exist or or not to be he said that is the question and
as it goes along he says you know we all finally get to the point where we don't all he said but
sometimes we'll go through situations where things are so bad we want to just end it all he
said but what keeps us from doing it he said the fact that it's unknown he said everyone goes there
and they you know all of these people die they go to this other land or something but no one comes
back to to verify what it's like so that's what scares all of us from committing suicide is
because you know or that's what Hamlet was saying you know this what prevents people from committing
suicide is because they're afraid of the unknown so because it's that whole Adam and Eve choice is
we want to know because we get that safety and security from clarity so and from hearing God
talk meaning like God's told us something or if we heard him talk but then we know he's there again
the knowledge. And so we just have to, but God in spirit can
only be known and related to through faith, through the fact
that God said something, you know, and by the way, when God
says something, in other words, what God gives us isn't just
words. So there can be things that you receive from him that
you can hold on to that you've never even heard the English
words for, because word isn't just like a truth that he's
telling you. And he's saying, Oh, by the way, I want you to
believe me next Y and Z. Sometimes what it is that we're
holding on to, that's actually word from God himself is just,
uh, how would I, I don't read that. I've never tried to word
that before. It's a, it's a, I was going to say it's a, it's
an experience, but it's not an experience. It's just a knowing
you don't even know what it is, you know, but there's something
within you. That's completely gone still that you completely
have faith in God about, and you don't even know what you're
believing about it. You don't even know what you're believing
about God, but you're, but you know, that you're having faith
with, because you're completely still inside. In other words,
you're completely at rest. That is another aspect as weird as
that sounds. I know that's getting kind of deep, but as
weird as it sounds, that is another aspect of word word is
God himself. Case in point, Jesus himself was word with a
capital W and Jesus was not an English word or Greek word or
Hebrew word. He was a being. And that being was called word. So
when it says that when God gives us word or God's word carries,
uh, when, uh, what are those passages? You know, when God
gives us word or when God speaks his word or whatever, it doesn't
mean that he tells us something that we can understand. Cause
again, that's knowledge. It's that his spirit is emanating
something to our spirit in our spirit grabs it, whether or not
our soul and our mind understand what it is that we grabbed, but
there's something within us. That's still something within us
that knows that everything's okay. Something within us.
That's that latches onto that thing, whatever it is. And we
get, and we're feel secure. That is word too, because word
isn't something God speaks word is when he gives you and ask a
piece of himself. Think of it kind of like this. When, um, I
always kind of picture it like a man and a woman coming together
to make a child is a man initiates. So, and then the
woman receives, and it's the same thing with the Lord. When
the seed that the Lord gives to us is word. That's why in
scripture, he always refers to all of those parables, you know,
the talk about the farmer sowing the seed or whatever. And then
when Jesus translated it, he said, that's actually the word
of God. It's piece and parcel of himself. Same thing, you know,
as an example of, of a man, um, with a woman is he's giving that
seed. It literally was piece and parcel of himself. It literally
was created from his DNA, from his cells, et cetera. It really
is truly a literal piece of his body that he offers. And then,
and then what we do to receive that from the Lord is he gives
word, he gives seed, and then we respond. We can effortlessly,
just like a woman, we can effortlessly receive it without
a baby being born as a result, because in order for a baby to
be born, in order for something to manifest from that, we have
to have a response to the word or response to that seed. We
have to contribute our own seed. So our, so just simply God
talking to us and giving word and just emanating that out
doesn't mean that, that what he says is actually going to happen
in our lives. Just because a man initiates with a woman doesn't
mean that a baby is conceived. A woman has to contribute. She has
to respond, not receive it. She had in the receiving, after the
receiving, she has to actually initiate, she has to respond in
a particular way directly to it. And our response in the spirit
is faith. It's, it's Lord, I choose that that is also true.
You say that this is true, you give me piece and parcel of
yourself, just like a man, you know, in that literal seed, that
word from God is not something he said, it's piece and parcel
of himself. Sometimes the piece and parcel expresses itself in
something he says, sometimes it expressed himself as Jesus
himself. So word can take on a variety of expressions. It's not
spoken. It's piece and parcel of God that gets expressed sometimes
in language. Sometimes it gets expressed as Jesus. Sometimes it
gets expressed as
something else, but, um, it's actually God himself that he's giving us.
And that's why, when we believe him, he receives that as love because we
literally are receiving a piece of God.
We're receiving it.
We're accepting it.
We're choosing it.
So, um, anyway, so that's why I was, why I was saying that I know it's going
kind of deep, but we can receive God and receive his word without hearing him say
something, so he's always giving us an aspect of himself.
Yeah.
He's always giving us an aspect of self in some way, even if we don't hear words,
even if we don't receive quote unquote direction, because our whole point is
when we're asking God, well, God, what about this and what should I do?
And we're going to him and we're wanting him to say something.
He will always communicate with us.
In fact, he's always giving us an aspect of himself.
We just may not hear it as a clarified as in clarification of a lid of an exact
direction that we should take or the thing that we should do or what it is
that when we should do it or whatever.
Okay.
In the notice, I guess it's on that journey.
Yeah.
So.
Okay.
That makes a lot of sense and make, yes.
It makes sense with my journey and everything.
Yeah.
Um, so then what do you do with him?
Not our experience with him.
Yeah.
So then what do you do with like knowledge?
Like, like in many ways, since learning about, you know, the tree of the
knowledge of good and evil, it's like, I've desired not to search out knowledge
for certain, for many things.
Like, I just don't want to know.
Um, but when, like, when do we research?
When do we like, or do we not like, does that show that we don't have faith?
No.
Um, because, uh, just like God created the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.
He, and it was in the, according to Romans seven, it says it was a holy tree.
Knowledge is a wonderful thing.
God doesn't create bad things.
In fact, God appreciates when we appreciate the fact, what it is that he
created, including knowledge and researching and information, what God
said is he said, don't eat of it.
In other words, don't, don't depend on it to save you.
It's, um, uh, how far have you gotten in the, the inner is rest teachings?
I got, you know, video for, um, okay.
Yes.
The King exercises and all of that.
Yeah.
Okay.
So a lot of, a lot more of all this will make sense in session five.
Um, and, uh, anyway, like a lot more.
So you'll see this session.
So is this right side for you backwards?
Yep.
That's right.
Excellent.
Again, it's backwards for me.
Okay.
So this is what I talk about in, in session five.
It explains a lot.
It explains about basically the, um, it goes into more depth about the, the how,
um, Oh my word, may the Lord help me with my language.
I don't know why I have been stumbling over trying to, uh, ever my words
and trying to articulate things lately.
Are you pregnant?
Yeah.
Not that I'm aware of.
So that's really cute.
Yeah, exactly.
Um, yeah, it's so weird to finally be at the time of my life where it's an
actual possibility, you know, it's like, Oh, this is the first time.
Um, uh, so it will explain where, uh, the, uh, how to hold knowledge in the,
in the appropriate, with the appropriate perspective that it's, it's a good thing.
We should seek it, um, meaning like we should be interested in it.
We should appreciate it.
We're learning more about God because God himself, remember how God
expresses himself in a variety of ways.
One of the ways he expresses himself is in how he created knowledge
and how he created it to work.
And so receiving it and appreciating it as receiving an aspect of God himself.
So it's all good.
But what God doesn't want us to do is to eat from it.
Meaning like, like I said, to depend on it is if our lack of knowledge, if we are
weak and, um, and without knowledge and that it's our, that our lack of knowledge
will kill us or that, and by that, I mean like spiritually, you know, socially,
emotionally, whatever, um, or that are, um, us having knowledge will save us
because what that's doing is knowledge is down here and God wants us to rely on him.
Also, where will I talk about this in the session?
You're like a balloon.
You exist.
up here in the spirit. And so you can, you can, you're, you're
positioned in Christ, where you are in the position of all power
and all authority and everything has been put under your feet
because it's you're in Christ and everything is under Christ's
feet. That means that knowledge, Satan, you know, evil forces,
all of those things are under your feet, including, like I
said, knowledge, that means you're you in your position in
Christ, you receive everything from Christ that you need. And
knowledge is less than that. And you're above knowledge. So if we
depend on knowledge, and we think that we are in order to
give us something, we're putting ourselves underneath knowledge,
because we need it in order to have something that we feel that
we don't have. For one thing that's coming into agreement
that we are in lack. And in other words, in disagreement
with God that he's we're in abundance. And so if we're in
lack, well, what can get me out of life, what can give me what I
need, because I don't have everything, okay, knowledge has
something to give me that I don't have. And therefore, I
need it in order to get what it is that I don't have that is
claiming and making knowledge more powerful in our life than
we are. It's making it more powerful in our life than God
is. That's the problem. So that's why, you know, we're not
supposed to eat from the tree of knowledge of good and evil,
meaning you're you when you eat, let's just, you know how it was
when we were kids, it was always pictured as an apple, eBay, the
apple. So we eat the apple. So when we do, I mean, we know this
and you know this better than anyone based off of you know,
your your experience and your all of your, all of your
research and everything. And, and is that we use what it is
that we eat, our body uses what it is that we eat for fuel.
That's what it uses to accomplish what it does. That's
where it gets its energy from, etc. And God said, that's why
God said don't eat of it. But he gave them dominion over it. And
he said, you know, I want you to take care of the trees in the
garden, including the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.
But he said, don't eat of it. He didn't say don't touch it.
Even made that up. He didn't say don't touch it. He said, don't
eat of it. There's nothing wrong with interacting with it. God
just says, remember who you are. This is you. This is it. And
don't get them flipped. You know, don't make knowledge and
believe knowledge has something that you don't, and then put
yourself underneath it. So it's so we're not supposed to rely
on knowledge. So now that so we approach knowledge and research
and learn about things from the perspective that okay, we're not
dependent on it, God has given us everything. So now that God
has given me everything, what aspect of creation would, you
know, does the Lord want to be part of our journey? And let's
go learn about it. Sometimes learning about it will prompt
our conversations with the Lord. So say, for instance, that God
hasn't given you a particular direction to look into
something. But there's something in you that's just particularly
interested. Well, I take I take those things as I mean, unless I
feel some weight in it, which means that I'm pursuing out of
fear, unless I feel some weight in it. I'm like, hey, you know
what, maybe the Lord is prompting me that something good
in me that is just excited or drawn to learning about
something that God created some principle by which he created
nature and life in my body to react and to respond to water or
to food or to chemo or to naturopathic, you know,
supplements or you know, whatever. And I want to learn
more about all of that. And so I follow those leads. And then
when as I'm pursuing it, I'm still doing it with the Lord.
I'm not saying, Okay, God, I'm gonna go do this. I hope you're
okay with this. I'll be back. It's like, no, you and the Lord
are researching it together. You're looking through the
internet together when you're always in your spirit, keeping
yourself open to the Lord. Instead of closing him off
thinking I'm, I don't feel safe with God, that he's going to
keep me safe. And I want to learn what it is that I want to
learn because it probably has the secret to heal me. It's
like, okay, you and the Lord together, open it, research it
together. And then you'll feel in your spirit leadings and
freedom towards learning about particular things. And then
you'll feel closed off towards others. And then you take those
things before the Lord that you felt that you learned about and
that you felt freedom and love in you're like, Okay, God, what
about this? You know, you, you know, should, should we, you
know, should we implement this? Should this be part of our
journey? I don't fully understand it. Or I think that I
fully understand
this is what it sounds like to me, should we do this? And then you and the Lord have a
conversation about what it is that y'all want to do about it. So that's what knowledge is.
We can use it to kind of like trigger and prompt conversations with the Lord,
but we always rely on God, not knowledge as our source, as what's going to heal us,
as it has everything it is that we need. Knowledge does not have any power to fix us
unless we put ourselves, take ourselves away from God and put ourselves underneath knowledge.
And if we do that, it means that we are condemned for everything. It is that,
that, okay. Say for instance, if we put ourselves under knowledge, it means that we're putting
ourself under the law and there's all kinds of benefits if you follow the law and there's
all kinds of condemnation and judgment and consequences. If you don't, if you break it,
whether or not, you know what the consequences were to break it. If you put yourself in
subjection to knowledge or the law, you sure you gain all of the benefits. You're controlling
everything now and you gain all the benefits. It also subjects you to all the consequences.
And then there's always going to be consequences. That's why there's currently, because it's
currently a flesh, which is subject to death. So there's always going to be consequences in it
until it's overcome and transferred to transform spirit, which is what we're trying to do.
But until then, so it's going to have consequences and side effects. That's why even naturopathic
options have side effects. It's why essential oils have side effects. It's why apples still
have side effects. Everything leads to entropy eventually. So no matter how good and how pure
and organic that something is, it still has a side effect because regardless, all of those things
are still are still, um, of the law and are still subject to corruption until we overcome them in
the spirit and transfer them to spirit. So anyway, it's not that they're bad. Knowledge isn't bad
and all these tools aren't bad. They just don't, we, we can't rely on them to give us a power
that we're denying that God says that he provides for us. We can't deny that and then choose to get
that power from knowledge or whatever. That means that we're denying that we are who God says that
we are. If we're here and, but we're relying on knowledge. It's instead we're putting ourself
either here or here. And God said, that's not who you are. That's not where you are. And that's why
we're in sin. It's unbelief. It's not an action. It's not believing God, but in being on this
journey, like, Oh, well, I don't know if I should research. I didn't know if I should learn about it.
I didn't know if I'm relying on knowledge and you're fine. It's God has grace for us to be
wherever it is that we are. And like, I, I always say, if you're five, be five,
but just to always be stretching towards learning what you need to and pushing boundaries of faith
to eventually grow into six years old. You know, it's that kind of a thing. I always use five.
Why? I don't know. Oh, I know why, because I was talking to my brother one time and he talked to
me about that. He was saying, Ashley, if you're five, just be five. So I've used that all the time
that, uh, so I don't mean to make us all sound like, I think that we're all immature children.
I just, I'm picking a number and five makes sense to people because they can picture a five-year-old
as opposed to like a, I don't know, 15 or a 19 year old five-year-old seems to make more sense
to people. But anyway, the point is that wherever it is that we are on the journey, it's okay for
us to be there. And God's like, okay, that's where you are right now. It's what you understand. It's
what you know, you are, have more faith today than you did yesterday. And I am pleased that
you believe me to that degree. So that's another thing that I always choose is I allow myself to,
I receive myself as where I am on the journey and believe that and choose that God is not,
says that I am not ever in condemnation, no matter where it is that I am on the journey.
So I receive myself like that as well. And this is just where I am. So I'm stretching in my faith
and I'm learning and whatever degree to which I am having faith with God,
he is pleased and so excited that I would receive him to that degree. God views life as half full,
not half empty. He's pleased with what we give him. You know, the glass is half empty instead of,
the glass is half full instead of half empty. He's pleased with what it is that we, he focuses
on the positive. He's always pleased with what it is that we give him as opposed to focusing on
where it is.
is that we haven't journeyed to or grown into yet.
He's pleased that we believe in to the degree that we do.
So we operate in that measure.
And then the rest of it, go where your soul finds peace.
And that's one of the things I think I talked about
in like session seven is, in fact, I would read
if you go to the practical shifting tools posts that I made.
Did you see that one?
It's a very long post.
So if you go almost all the way to the bottom,
right before victory in Jesus or victory through Jesus.
I don't remember how worded that.
It says, choose and go where your soul finds peace.
That is kind of your default for you stretch into faith
as much as you can.
And then for whatever it is that your faith
just isn't there yet, go back to,
you know, declare that what God says is true,
but go where your soul finds peace.
In other words, act on what it is that gives your soul peace
because it doesn't do us any good to want to believe God,
but we don't actually believe God, but we want to.
And so we step out on it because that's not real faith.
So there's nothing to support us and we fall.
So it's like you're coming to an edge of a cliff.
You know, I wanna have faith in the Lord.
Because he says to, you know, what faith is,
is faith is putting is we coming to the edge of the cliff
and there's all this, you know, void
and faith is creates this stepping stone
so that when we step out in action after the faith,
we've got something to support us.
But if so, but if we want to believe this,
but we don't believe it, but we really want to,
we wish that we believed it because God's,
I'm willing to Lord,
this stepping stone does not get created.
And if we act without that faith,
even though we really want to believe in,
if we don't really believe him, when we step out,
we're gonna fall because there's nothing to support us.
So that's why I say God can support and protect
and provide a safe supportive environment
for us to learn about things
when we're not yet strong enough in our faith
to create it ourselves.
So just go where your soul finds peace,
go to just operate in the degree that a faith that you can.
And then the rest of it is just you being where it is
that you are right now on your journey.
And you're not born 35, you were born a baby
and you grow and you grow and you grow
in the same thing in the spirit,
not born at this degree of spiritual maturity
in your relationship with the Lord.
You've never been there.
You don't know how to be there.
You don't know how to get there.
You don't understand it.
God doesn't expect it of you.
God created you here.
And so wherever it is that you are, be that thing.
A five-year-old is wonderful as a five-year-old
and they're cute and they mess up and they make mistakes.
And that's why God gave them parents
so that they could make mistakes
and not have to bear the full weight
of the consequences of their actions
and learn in an environment
where they don't have to fully pay for trying
and not quite getting it right.
So it's the same thing in spirit.
God does the same thing for us.
So we don't need to be harder on ourselves
and be like, oh, well, I really,
God, this is bad.
I shouldn't do this anymore.
Well, if you don't have the faith to support you out there
and that's what you need to do.
And then you trust,
because the whole point is to learn more and more
about who God is and to choose more and more
that that's who he is.
So choosing to the degree that you can,
the rest of it, declare that that's who he is,
even though you can't choose enough to act on it.
I'm going to eventually shift, Lord.
And so right now I choose that if you say your love,
that you're love, but I can't act on it yet
because I don't really believe it.
So I'm going to act where it is that I can.
Okay.
That makes sense.
And it's like, it's freeing and there's so much grace.
Exactly.
It's okay for us to be where it is that we are.
We're not bad.
God created life to be where we are on this process.
And we're always a different age
and it's okay to be that age.
It's not bad to be that age, you know?
Right, right.
It's okay to learn to walk.
I mean, eventually you're going to, you know,
we all learn to walk,
but we don't get onto a baby for falling,
for trying, taking steps and then falling.
In fact, God made provision for the fact
that they wouldn't know coming out of the womb,
how to stand up and walk.
He made provision for the process of them learning.
by making them, like covering them, not only just like with a lot of fat,
but also making all of their joints very flexible so that when they fell,
they would be protected. That's why, you know, an old person, when they fall,
they don't have all that fat and they don't, and their joints aren't flexible.
So they break, but a baby can do that and do it over and over.
And sometimes we wonder how on earth did they not just get a concussion or how,
you know,
they just hit their head because God made provision for that phase.
They were not born into contemnation. The same thing with us in the spirit.
God doesn't look on us when we make our mistakes, when we're trying to learn.
Okay. So what are you saying? Okay. So how do I do the sonship thing?
How do I have faith in you? What are you telling me to have faith in? Okay.
Lord, I'm going to try this. I think this is right, but I'm not sure.
But all my guests might have were bare, like really bad consequences.
If I'm wrong, he's like,
do you not understand that I am going to provide you a safe environment where
you will not have to bear the horrible consequences
that the, the,
the weight of the consequences that you normally would when you're
trying it early enough, you know,
then I'm going to preserve and protect you from a lot of those consequences.
It's the same thing in spirit. Yeah.
Oh, okay. That makes sense. Yeah.
Well, I think those are questions. Um,
and that's helped clarify a lot of things,
things I think I've already known in some way, shape or form, but it's like,
Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
You already know all of this because this is because your
spirit has access to, and is in the one who's has all,
who has not only just all knowledge, but all spirit, all wisdom,
all understanding, et cetera. What I do is I just,
I'm just positioned, you know, I guess, you know, maybe, you know,
God's given me the honor to be positioned in your life for my spirit,
to speak something, to simply prompt your spirit, to remember something.
It knows, well, technically your spirit already knows it,
but that your soul will finally hear it.
That's why when you hear something, you're like,
I feel like I've always known that I've never heard it,
but I felt like I was known because you have, it's who you are.
I don't teach someone anything.
I don't give them anything they don't already have.
I just help people remove their own barriers to remembering
who they are, so to speak,
and to allow the fact that they already have access to all that knowledge for it
to come for them to be brave,
to choose to believe that their spirit's a safe place so that their soul
finally comes into agreement with that.
But these are all things everybody already knows. We just don't, aren't,
haven't allowed access to our spirit in order for our soul
to be fully aware of all of the things that our spirit already knows.
But the more that we feel free, the more that we feel safe,
the more that that's that, that knowledge and wisdom and under,
because it's spirit of knowledge, spirit of wisdom,
spirit of understanding in the Lord,
the fact that we're unified with him comes into our soul and transforms it.
And all of a sudden it's like, Oh yeah. Okay. You know,
I felt like I've always known that because we have,
it's a part of who it is that we already are.
Right. So it's like the hearing of like,
just you saying that, is it,
it comes into our soul where I've known it, but I've never heard it.
It's like that. Is that like where the,
kind of the transformational process comes in where my flesh and spirit
come into.
Yes, that is overcoming. That is the alignment. That is,
there's another word that you used. What was the other word that you used?
Oh, transformation. Yes. That's transformation.
It's where your soul and your body begin to change when they are,
when they come into alignment with this spirit,
into agreement with the spirit in the spirit of God, literally transforms us.
That's why I think it was Paul who talked about transform
yourselves by the renewing of your mind.
Meaning mind is in the soul, not minded than the brain mind of our soul,
because our soul is the decision maker. It's the gatekeeper.
We already are the thing in the spirit,
but what is our soul going to come into agreement with to allow to pass through
the gate so that it can be changed and the body can be changed to come
into agreement with the spirit and therefore get to live out of that kind of a
power. So and until then, you know,
our body thinks that it's subject to attack that it has to succumb
to our attack to attack.
Same thing with our soul means that we believe.
That our soul, um, bills that it's subject to, um, you know, things like say, for
instance, if we've go through something traumatically emotional with, uh, in a
relationship or whatever, then our soul feels like, oh my goodness, I'm nothing.
I'm rejected.
I'm, you know, this means something about me.
And it thinks that it has to succumb to that as opposed to choosing.
Nope.
I am who the spirit says that I am.
That is what transforms us.
That's what overcomes the flesh.
And that's what transforms flesh into spirit.
Okay.
Yeah.
So we're not transforming ourselves in spirit.
We're transforming this, the flesh into spirit.
Okay.
That makes sense.
Alignment and agreement.
Yeah.
But yeah, uh, session five will make a lot more, will help
everything make a lot more sense.
It addresses, it addresses actually a lot of things.
It's often people's favorite favorite one.
Yeah.
Yay.
Good.
Well, I'm glad that you're doing better.
And, um, uh, and I, I know that it took me a while to get back to your post, but
I've noticed that whenever that happens with me, that it takes a while
for me to get back to someone.
I know that God is trying to meet them on their, on his own so that, so that
he can like prove himself in experientially in their life so that they
begin to trust him more and more because he met them in their pain,
in their struggle, in their question.
And so I've learned to not be, be so concerned if I'm like, Oh my word.
You know, emotionally, somebody is just really in a, in a difficult spot.
This is what I'm here for.
I want to be there, whatever.
And I've noticed that if there's some hindrance to me being able to be there,
you know, and be as responsive as I want to, I I've learned over and over and
over and over and over and over and over.
That is when God ends up doing the, uh, the biggest work in their life
is because I couldn't get to them.
And he's like, yep.
You know, I need, I need to, to touch them.
I was like, okay.
And so you ended up hearing that really exciting thing.
Right.
So I'm good.
There's nothing like a person knowing the end and having that, uh, uh, knowing
the voice of God for themselves and being talked to directly by him.
There's nothing that's, that's, um, of greater price to any of us is, and
that's something that you never want to take away from someone is their
relationship with the Lord, meaning like their, um, um, which again, my
goodness, the, the phrase Lord, please.
Uh, just, uh, that, um, just that assurance that they hear from God.
That's what I'm trying to say.
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Yeah.
To, to take, to make them not be able to rely on that.
Meaning like we circumvent by interjecting too soon and by trying to help someone
too soon or, or whatever can actually, um, handicap them.
Um, so anyway, so I just do the best that I can.
So I knew, I knew I was like, okay, that's probably going to do something
because I can't get to the Hudson.
So the same thing with Cicely or the same thing with Kate, I'm like, oh my word,
Lord, why all of a sudden everybody needs something, including me.
It's like, okay, God, you're just going to have to care of all of us.
So I'm so glad to hear everybody.
Huh?
And he always does.
That's right.
Yes.
Well, it was good to get to visit with you.
I've got another transformation session now.
All right.
Well, thank you, Ashley.
Sure.
Good to visit with you too.
We'll see you tomorrow.
All right.
Bye.