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I can hear you but not see you.

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I can hear you but not see you.

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You sound like you're in the car.

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Let's see if I'm right.

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You're right.

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I was like she has the sound.

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You always sound like that when you're in the car.

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It must be the acoustics in there.

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I'm glad we're finally able to connect.

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I appreciate your patience.

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I was just checking to see if I could get the

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errand up.

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I thought I had time.

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Otherwise I wouldn't be able to get it today.

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I ran into a train.

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All the traffic.

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There's really no easy way to get anywhere.

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It's not close to any major highways.

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You have to weave out

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the traffic.

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I'm glad we're able to connect.

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When things bottleneck,

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they really bottleneck.

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There's only so many ways in and out.

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Thank you for your patience.

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I was watching the clock.

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I don't know why I had two in my mind.

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I had one o'clock on my calendar.

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I'm glad it worked out for us to still meet today.

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I was disappointed when you weren't there.

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I was looking forward to it.

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I'm glad it worked out.

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How are you?

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I was excited you were able to have a reversal.

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I was sorry to hear

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it hasn't been smooth since.

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It's been challenging.

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How are you?

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Today has been better.

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I know I don't have a blockage.

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That's a good sign.

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They won't let babies

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be released from the hospital

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until they have a full cycle.

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You need to make sure

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that everything is working.

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You need to make sure

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that everything is working

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from end to end.

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Everything can get in and out.

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That's how they work for me.

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I couldn't be released

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until I was having bowel movements.

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Then I got home.

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I've been chronically constipated

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for a while now.

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It's very stress related.

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Getting home,

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trying to get her house ready to put on the market.

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My daughter,

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I don't know what the word is.

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She's very spirited.

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She's omnipresent.

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She's everywhere

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She has so much life.

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It's like blasting

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all her energy at you all at once.

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It's a lot at times.

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Figuring out,

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this was a reminder to me.

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I feel like I reverted back

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to my old man.

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It's a reminder to me

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that things that I feel are required of me

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even though they might not be required of me.

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Figuring out

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how to live from rest in those times.

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One of the ways

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to think about it

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is,

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I was talking to somebody about this

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about viewing those types of things in life

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from a different perspective.

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I'm not required anymore.

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I'm not obligated.

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How do we fix that discrepancy?

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How do we reconcile that discrepancy?

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How do we nullify

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the seemingly contradiction?

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That's what I'm trying to do.

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As I keep saying,

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and the Lord will hopefully give me

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different words to articulate it

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so I can flesh it out and help people understand it.

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about the importance of owning yourself is that, okay, who does God say he is?

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And who's he say I am.

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Okay.

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That is who I am.

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And that is where I am.

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In other words, I have significance.

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I am the thing that God has most entrusted me with more than your

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husband, more than your kids.

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He's entrusted you first with you.

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So what that means is you take on that, that you agree with him,

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that you have that value, that significance.

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And then when you own yourself, in other words, you own, you,

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you take ownership of yourself.

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You take, um, you choose your, you choose who it is that God says that

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you are in the significance and the value that he has given to you.

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And then from that place, you can live offensively in life of like, okay,

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how, what do I want to create my life to be and to look like?

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So when it runs into something like, and we'll just use your

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daughter for an example, you know, running around with so much life

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and energy, and then we, what we have a tendency to do is we think

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something is happening that I can't control and I don't want, I want

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it to work a little different.

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I mean, you want your daughter, but you don't want what you're getting,

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you know, it's, it's, we know, you know, with your husband, with, you

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know, interactions with just people, it's like, okay, I like you.

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I'm really not like you.

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You're giving to me right now.

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I really wish I could control.

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You to the point where you could give me a different behavior,

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you know, kind of a thing.

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And so, well, what we do is we think, okay, what we have a

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tendency to do is we think, okay, I'm not being given something I don't want.

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So because I don't want it and because I can't control it, well,

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then it's being forced on me and I have to, and it's something that I

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don't want is being forced on me.

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And now I have to do something I don't want to do because something's

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coming at me that I didn't want, or I didn't can't control and didn't ask for.

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But really what we can do is we can view it from a different

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perspective of, okay, what do I want for my life?

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And this is what my life has in it.

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So how do I want to interact with that or whatever?

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So say for instance, you know, your daughter, you know, you think, okay,

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well, you love your daughter.

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What do you want to give your daughter?

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What do you want to, what kind of a life do you want to create for your

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daughter, for you and your daughter's interaction and relationship and whatever.

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So now that your daughter's behavior doesn't threaten or

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require anything of you.

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Now, what do you want to give to the situation?

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As opposed to, oh, my word.

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Now I have to do something because she did it.

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And now I have to do something I don't want to do.

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No, she did what she did.

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She said what she said.

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She asked, she's acting the way that she's acting.

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So now you not being threatened by that.

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How do you then, what, what do you, how do you want to take the lemons that

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life has given you and make them make lemonade?

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How do you want to take the circumstances and situations that you

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have and create something out of it that you want for your life?

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So you're moving forward offensively because of something you choose to do,

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as opposed to thinking of it in the perspective of I'm forced into this

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situation simply because if I don't react to this situation, there's going

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to be consequences I don't want to deal with.

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So then what we, we, the way that we ended up making decisions is simply

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in efforts to avoid consequences.

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And that's depressing way to live life as opposed to what do I want to create?

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Not what do I want to avoid, but what do I want to create and

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then determine our actions from that.

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Um, and then there was another point that I was going to make about that,

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that, um, uh, oh, that's right.

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Uh, I was relating to some, the other person I was talking to, I was relating

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it to things like around the house, like say for instance, dishes or the

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grocery store or whatever, because they were like, well, you know, if I want to,

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um, uh, how do I, how do I do the things that need to be done without feeling?

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Um, uh, I don't remember how they worded it, but you know, how do I do the

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things that, that need to be done without feeling overwhelmed or simply

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trying to constantly procrastinate and avoid it in the name of self-care?

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You know, and just like, oh, well, I'm going to sit around and do something else.

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And then you avoid all of these things that quote unquote need to get done.

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And I said, well, it's simply a shift in perspective.

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What life do you want to create?

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If you don't have food in the house and you're thinking, well, I really

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don't want to go to the grocery store.

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You don't have to, no one's making you, you do not have to go to the grocery store.

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It is your house, your home.

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No one's over you whipping you down the street to go to the grocery store.

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You don't have to, if you don't want to, but what do you want to, how

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do you want to live your life?

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How do you, what kind of a life do you want to create?

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Do you want to eat tonight and provide for your, for your family and whatever?

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Okay, well then how can you do and create in life?

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but it is that you desire as opposed to how do I avoid

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something happening that I really don't want to happen.

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Some, you know, and that would happen because I didn't act.

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So it's just totally a change of perspective.

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Then you're living, you're going to the grocery store

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because you're creating your own life

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because it's what you've decided you want to do.

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And you went, and when you're at the grocery store,

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you're buying the things that you want to buy

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in order to create the life and contribute to your family

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in the way that you want to, not because you have to.

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So it allowed, that's how we act with the Lord in rest,

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but we're still acting.

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We're not like sitting at home, not doing anything,

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you know, and not having to do it because we don't have to,

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not having, not doing it because, well,

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we're not obligated and well, it's not required.

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No, it's not obligated.

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We're not obligated and we're not required.

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So now that we're not obligated and not required,

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it's removed all of the weight, the burden,

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the responsibility of a result.

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And now that you aren't responsible

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and burdened by creating a result,

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now you'll find that you have all of this energy

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and desire to actually create now that you don't have to,

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now that, you know,

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now that everything is in God's hands, et cetera.

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Does that all make sense?

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It's just a change in perspective.

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You still discipline your daughter,

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you still interact with her, you still whatever,

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but it's because you're the parent

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and you're trying to create something,

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not that you're trying to avoid, you know,

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whatever consequences could come if you're not,

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if you don't interact and if you don't respond.

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Right.

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I think so much, and I haven't,

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I'm just realizing this now,

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so many of my questions lately have all come back to,

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I'm sitting in the place of a victim.

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And kind of like, you know,

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I've been this place of victimhood versus

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what would be the opposite of that?

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Like empowered or.

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Yeah, victory or owning yourself.

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I don't know.

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Owning myself.

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Like deciding things for you,

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as opposed to you felt that they were forced on you

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and you might've still wanted to make that choice

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that you made, but because you made it,

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because you felt like you had to,

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you didn't like the choice.

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Right.

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Because you felt that the reason and the motivation

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was something that wasn't inspiring, you know?

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Healthy, it wasn't life, it wasn't you.

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Your motivation was different.

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So all you're doing now is you're changing your motivation

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and your approach to life.

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And you might still make some of the same decisions

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in the same areas, in some of the same areas,

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but now, because it's you,

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you'll enjoy it more than when you feel it's forced on you.

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because it's what we chose,

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as opposed to feeling we were forced into this situation.

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my parents made me take this, get this degree.

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I don't know, I felt like, well, I had to take this job

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and I felt like I had to or whatever.

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I want to have, I want a job because I want to take,

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you know, help, you know, pay for, you know,

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my family's finances and whatever.

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that came and I could see it as,

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oh, this is the only opportunity I was given,

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I'm forced into this.

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Or I could choose, no, this is the opportunity

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and this is something I want.

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So therefore, this is an opportunity that I choose

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because I could choose to reject it,

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but I choose this for me.

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and putting yourself in a position of valuing

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who it is that God says that you are.

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progressive decisions or whatever.

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for why you move forward in life,

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why you, you're changing your motivation for your decisions,

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why you do what you do and what activities you choose

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and whatever.

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what you look to for your motivation started way back,

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in childhood, where you're looking

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for your parents' approval,

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looking for them noticing or being okay

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and with how you performed or whatever.

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and there's no life in it

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and you always feel forced into doing something

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because what's creating your motivation

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is your parents' response.

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and what allows me to be me

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and what's naturally coming out of me,

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that brings life and that will feel fulfilling

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as opposed to the other motivation.

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So if you chose tennis because you wanted to,

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well, then it's more fun.

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to do tennis, but then you were made to, and you were driven and then it's no longer fun.

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If your coach just drives you to the point where, you know, you know, it's, it's, uh, I don't know,

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he drives these drills and he drives this, this, um, the number of times you have to do it a week

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and you have to be on the courts. If you have to be on the course, it's no longer fun.

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It's just simply, it's just simply the, what you're choosing as your standard of,

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of, to motivate yourself. So if you simply change the standard of what you're using to

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motivate yourself by owning you and living and living out of who that is, that's going to bring

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life to what you do. It might be the same actions, but it's a totally different source,

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which will bring life instead of death. That's what brings life instead of death. It's not the

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action. It's what we're pouring into the action. That's what is, you know, it's, uh, what's

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motivating the action. Right. So I've noticed like, like even when it's, when I have these aha

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moments, like, oh, I've been a victim again. Um, and then I feel like I stay in that place of

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owning myself for a period of time. Then it's almost like I slowly slip back into victimhood

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without even knowing it. And how, how can I keep in that place? Well, have you noticed that over

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time, like say for instance, the past 12, 13 weeks, however long it's been, have you noticed

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that you're doing it more and more. That I'm like, that I'm owning yourself more and more for either

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more longer periods of time or more often or whatever. Like, in other words,

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were you noticing progress and improvement? Well, I would say in the beginning, I was noticing big

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progress and improvement, but now that life is so much busier, I'm noticing like a regress.

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So it could be a couple of different things for one, you could just be used to that. You've got

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a new norm now. So you can forget that what's normal now didn't used to be normal. You didn't

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have it as good as it used to, you know, you didn't use to be as good as it is now. And so

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in forgetting that it's like, we just see lack. We see the glass is half empty instead of half full,

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but then part of it could just simply be the fact that you've that well, I say part of it as if it's

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like this second thing, another side of the same coin. In other words, what is going on at the same

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time is the fact that you really have accomplished what you, you really have moved into rest to the

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degree that you believe that you have and the degree that you, I don't know that you've just

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detained, but you're going around the mountain again, but you're now higher or another way to

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see it, see it is you're just now getting to a deeper layer of the same issue. And it was a layer

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that wasn't exposed before. Now that you've dealt with all of this, now this thing that you had

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never dealt with is now exposed. And so now you're having to face that. So and then part of that can

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be triggered through like volume, like busyness, the amount of stuff that you have to do, you know,

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that can, that can trigger. In other words, that can, and that can cause things that haven't been

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dealt with yet to come up, could be volume, could be intensity, could be simply a different category

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of something you have to face. Like say for instance, you've already done this through

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cancer, but imagine that somebody else in the rest intensive was dealing with it in relationships or

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was dealing with it in finances. And so they're like, okay, I got this. And then all of a sudden

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they get a diagnosis and all of a sudden they're thinking on my word, I've regressed.

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Uh, what it's as if I've never learned about rest, you know, well, no, you're now learning,

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having to learn it and learn to trust God and have faith in a different category.

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And he learned it in these others. So we're believing it's like we compartmentalize our

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faith and our trust in the Lord. Lord, I can, I've learned how to believe you in this area.

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I've learned how to believe you in finances, or I've learned how to believe you in relationships.

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And I've learned to believe that and choose that you're my provider and my protector,

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but Lord, when I'm faced with health, that's an area where I'm showing my limitation in my

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ability to trust you. Are you really that good? So anyway, so for you, you know, who've seen it

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in various categories, well, then now it's just kind of like, okay, well, when you get back to

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normal life that you have been living a lot longer than you've lived with a diet, the threat

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of a diagnosis of cancer, much longer than that, you've been dealing with all the daily stuff,

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the grocery store, the husband, the children, your parents, you know, the Bible studies are

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feeling or feeling the weight of, of being a, being a housewife and having to juggle all the

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balls, you know? So with that longer affirmation, with that longer history of having an interaction.

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with all of those daily things in a totally different paradigm than the one that you've

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now chosen between you and the Lord. God's like, okay, now let's take that paradigm

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and let's put it into what really has a very old entrenched habit of being approached in a

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totally different way. Because so much of your, of our lives, we live on autopilot.

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We approach it in the same way that we did yesterday, which is the same way we did 10 years

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ago, because. It's one of the benefits of getting older is you don't have to think so much about

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every little thing that happens in every little thing, you know, that, that you do a lot of it,

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you figured out already from experience and you put that aspect of interacting in life and

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interacting with other people and driving and then going to the grocery store.

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A lot of that is just on autopilot. That includes all of the feelings that come with having to go

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to the grocery store or dealing with traffic or the fact that the kids are in the back screaming

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or, and so we just have a tendency to go into autopilot for those things. So.

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And part of those autopilot, which I knew how to just part of that audit, those autopilots are all

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entrenched in beliefs that we just haven't dealt with yet. If we just haven't dealt with those

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beliefs to. To the degree to that, um, that those triggers are showing that we haven't,

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and I don't know if that's grammatically correct, but in other words, you've dealt with your faith

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in your, in your trust in the Lord to a particular degree in particular areas.

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And so now this is just revealing like a deeper level to which you need to choose that God.

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And what he's that God is who says that he is to the degree. He says, he's that you already

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know that he's that you've chosen him in all these other areas, but it is he, and he's, he's

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as good as the way he's expressed himself in his goodness to you in all those areas, you know, in,

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in your treatment and, you know, with, uh, with cancer and helping you make, learn how to make

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decisions with him and feeling more confident and loved by him and, and, um, uh, Fully and

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unconditionally accepted, but is he as good as for you to be okay. As a mom and a wife,

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if everything's not done according to the standard that you've always done, it

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doesn't mean that you won't continue to do it to that standard. If not better, it just means,

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are you okay with the Lord with, even if you don't meet that standard and the old Casey didn't

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believe she was. And so those old, so whenever you're in those situations, again, that old thing

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of I'm not enough, unless all of these standards start rising to my PT. And so all of these things

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start rising to my standards. That's what's going to come up in those moments. So you have to choose

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repeatedly. No, who does God say that I am? You know, am I enough? Do I need, I need to let go

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of this, not of me not being able to control this. I need to let go of the fact that, you know,

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things are, are busy right now. And there's a lot that's required of me. And I have a potential of

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being overwhelmed and whatever, quite honestly, I'm going through a time right now where I'm

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feeling, um, I was talking to, um, Ed about the fact that I am feeling very overwhelmed.

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And, and so I know what it is that I need to do in, um, when, when I'm overwhelmed, I was like,

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okay, Ashley, you are requiring that you have to do all of these things. All of these things have

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to get done. They have to get done this amount of time. And there's this one piece right over here

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that you really don't want to do. Why? Because you've never done it before. And when you're

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trying to do all of this other stuff now on top of that, you got to learn it and you got to do it.

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And you just don't want to, and you're just simply intimidated. If you just get right down to the

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root of it, you know, and then all of that stuff is just overwhelming. And so I think, why am I

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overwhelmed? I'm overwhelmed because I think I have to. And I think that if I don't, then I'm not

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a good enough wife or a good enough mentor or a good enough, I don't know, whatever that I'm

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falling short of a standard or a mark. And, and, and anyway, so I have to adjust and realize, no,

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what is my standard? And what is my mark? What is my highest priority that I'm good enough with God?

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Okay. So am I good enough with God? That's what he says. Okay. Then that's the reality in which I

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choose. And then all of a sudden the overwhelm goes away because it no longer can give me what

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I want. Cause I already got what I want. I just, I just let go of it all. And I chose that I really

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am. Okay. Cause God says that I was okay. Now that I'm okay, let's just start doing stuff.

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What do I want to create in life instead of what is being thrown at me and being put on my list,

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whether I put it on my list or someone else does and me thinking I'm already got to do all this.

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No, I don't. All of these things can't give me something that I'm being threatened to not have.

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of, if I don't get it done, I already got it.

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So now that I have it, let's just start knocking things off the list.

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How do I want to live life?

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What things do I want to have done?

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Okay, then go do them.

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But it's, so it's just, I just had to change my perspective.

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And as soon as I changed my perspective, the overwhelm lifted.

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So, okay.

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Cause things in the list, aren't a threat.

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It's what the not getting of those things done is, uh, what we believe

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that that is saying about us or what, or the fact that we think that we're

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not going to be safe or protected or taken care of, um, and, uh, if

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those things don't get done, you know, oh, we're not going to get as much

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money or, you know, dinner's not going to be done on time or my, my, my kids

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are going to learn the wrong lesson or my, you know, just whatever, you know,

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we're looking at all these consequences that could happen, you know?

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Um, so anyway,

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yes, it is.

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Yeah, it is.

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So it's just a change in perspective.

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So rest and what it is that God offers us in, in the abiding in him, which is what

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rest is rest, no, isn't peace or anything.

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It's actually just simply abiding in, in other words, being in God.

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And it's, it's not about the avoidance of pain or the avoidance of, you know,

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unpleasant circumstances or anything like that.

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It's, it's actually a freedom in which through a freedom by

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which we can go through them.

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So it just changes how we go through life.

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It doesn't avoid life, you know?

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You know, so yeah, that's cool.

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I feel like I'm probably gonna have to come back and listen to this like weekly.

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So, well, um, yeah, I'm glad that that's that.

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I don't know, just helpful then, but yeah, it is.

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It's all about a change in just changing our perspective on it.

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Not about how do we avoid it happening, happening to us?

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How do we get out of where it is that we are?

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It's, it's, it's, you know, it's, it's all about how do we go through it?

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It's not about, how do you go through it?

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How do you go through it?

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So that you rule it because when you rule it, that will change it.

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It's just acting.

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I mean, some of it is not to get not so many of the waters, but some of it is

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just, it's just acting just in, in chaos.

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Do to the fact that humanity has been telling it for thousands of years.

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That God isn't true.

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And that God isn't as good as he says the years and that God is real, but he's not

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You know, or whatever.

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And it's acting out it it's in self-preservation circumstances,

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situations, human souls, we're all acting out of self-preservation.

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And so what we have to do is we have to bring in the truth, not by telling it,

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the truth, not by telling ourselves or telling the situation or telling other

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people, we have to bring the truth.

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We have to choose it, that it's true.

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Then live it in order for life to experience that.

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It really is what God says that it is.

469
00:28:13.160 --> 00:28:15.280
We have to let it experience it.

470
00:28:15.320 --> 00:28:19.240
Meaning we have to give it when we've never seen it.

471
00:28:20.160 --> 00:28:24.160
You know, we've never, you know, in other words, we don't have proof.

472
00:28:24.680 --> 00:28:28.920
We prove it with ourselves, right?

473
00:28:29.040 --> 00:28:33.680
We have the faith and then we create the proof that wasn't

474
00:28:33.680 --> 00:28:37.240
there before we had faith, right?

475
00:28:37.560 --> 00:28:39.680
Proof can't exist without us.

476
00:28:39.720 --> 00:28:41.160
We have to create the proof.

477
00:28:41.720 --> 00:28:47.040
So we have to choose that something's real in order to make it real into creation.

478
00:28:47.320 --> 00:28:48.880
It already exists in the spirit realm.

479
00:28:49.480 --> 00:28:50.880
And then we choose that that is true.

480
00:28:50.880 --> 00:28:51.880
And then we bring it down.

481
00:28:52.160 --> 00:28:59.920
So anyway, it's, it's, um, it's again, you know, with, with chaos of

482
00:28:59.920 --> 00:29:03.720
situations or whatever, including, you know, your own emotions or whatnot,

483
00:29:03.720 --> 00:29:06.080
you just kind of perceive it as well.

484
00:29:06.520 --> 00:29:07.800
You know, this is normal.

485
00:29:07.880 --> 00:29:09.720
It's not like, oh, it shouldn't be like this.

486
00:29:09.760 --> 00:29:11.160
No, this is, this is life.

487
00:29:11.160 --> 00:29:12.720
This is the way it is right now.

488
00:29:13.000 --> 00:29:14.600
Now, was it like that before the fall?

489
00:29:14.600 --> 00:29:14.960
No.

490
00:29:15.560 --> 00:29:16.680
But is it like that after the fall?

491
00:29:16.680 --> 00:29:17.400
Absolutely.

492
00:29:17.400 --> 00:29:23.280
And God's died so that we could have victory over and rule over and already

493
00:29:23.280 --> 00:29:26.520
be in the position over all of this chaos.

494
00:29:27.000 --> 00:29:34.440
So we have to operate from being over in order to change it, but it won't

495
00:29:34.440 --> 00:29:38.160
change without us, without us ruling over it.

496
00:29:38.400 --> 00:29:40.120
And so we just let it be what it is.

497
00:29:40.120 --> 00:29:40.720
We let it be.

498
00:29:40.720 --> 00:29:41.680
It's chaos.

499
00:29:42.040 --> 00:29:43.240
It's like Jesus in the storm.

500
00:29:43.240 --> 00:29:44.600
Just let it be what it is.

501
00:29:44.640 --> 00:29:47.280
We don't have to change it because it's not threatening.

502
00:29:47.680 --> 00:29:49.160
So now that's not threatening.

503
00:29:49.480 --> 00:29:56.240
Now we can bring now, now it can, um, it can, it can change because we

504
00:29:56.240 --> 00:30:00.000
no longer require it to change now that it's no longer.

505
00:30:00.000 --> 00:30:01.200
You're required to change.

506
00:30:01.560 --> 00:30:07.920
It'd be like, oh, so if God says that it, he accepts me unconditionally

507
00:30:08.380 --> 00:30:14.840
and I really am good, I really, and you know, I, I really have a purpose.

508
00:30:14.840 --> 00:30:17.640
I really have a function and I can function freely.

509
00:30:17.680 --> 00:30:20.360
I had the opportunity to function freely according to the way I was created.

510
00:30:20.760 --> 00:30:23.840
I'm experiencing now by how Casey's interacting with me.

511
00:30:24.920 --> 00:30:26.120
That it's actually true.

512
00:30:26.760 --> 00:30:31.440
But how can I be, just try to be convinced by someone else that it's

513
00:30:31.440 --> 00:30:36.360
true, if I've never experienced it, you know, and so we give them the

514
00:30:36.360 --> 00:30:42.720
experience, we actually lived the truth out and they're like, oh my word.

515
00:30:43.860 --> 00:30:49.480
You know, if, if that can actually happen from a human being, then it

516
00:30:49.480 --> 00:30:51.200
must actually happen with God.

517
00:30:51.200 --> 00:30:55.440
Cause I'm seeing it's actually something that can happen as opposed to something

518
00:30:55.440 --> 00:30:57.040
they've never seen or experienced.

519
00:30:57.720 --> 00:30:59.000
So we went and.

520
00:31:01.160 --> 00:31:05.440
So is it in that place that we make disciples?

521
00:31:05.640 --> 00:31:10.280
I mean, this is something that like, I've been, like, it feels like too, like

522
00:31:10.280 --> 00:31:14.840
the, you know, Jesus called us to make disciples of all nations and, you know,

523
00:31:14.840 --> 00:31:20.640
I feel like, like churches I've been going to, they do it, what, what feels

524
00:31:20.640 --> 00:31:28.000
like in a maybe non-relational way, almost like a forced way, possibly.

525
00:31:28.520 --> 00:31:30.320
Like soldiers or something.

526
00:31:31.200 --> 00:31:31.760
Right.

527
00:31:31.800 --> 00:31:36.000
And so I'm trying to like bring this, what I'm learning here into alignment with

528
00:31:36.000 --> 00:31:40.120
like, that's like, I've never been discipled before, you know, I feel like,

529
00:31:40.400 --> 00:31:43.200
you know, cause it may be by you or different people in my life.

530
00:31:44.200 --> 00:31:50.760
And so I'm, you know, I want to do well in that area and, you

531
00:31:50.760 --> 00:31:51.880
know, that's important to me.

532
00:31:52.120 --> 00:31:55.760
But how do I bring what I'm learning here into that?

533
00:31:57.320 --> 00:32:00.200
Into discipling other people or.

534
00:32:01.600 --> 00:32:02.800
He, I guess.

535
00:32:02.800 --> 00:32:03.280
Yeah.

536
00:32:04.920 --> 00:32:10.040
I mean, I guess, well, I'll tell you, I was walking around my neighbor, well, my

537
00:32:10.040 --> 00:32:16.520
cul-de-sac there's probably 10, 10 houses on my street and I was walking around and

538
00:32:16.520 --> 00:32:21.000
I was like praying for over every house and the people in the homes and that they

539
00:32:21.000 --> 00:32:23.600
would come to know the Lord and Jesus.

540
00:32:23.600 --> 00:32:29.120
And as I was coming to like one of the last houses, I was thinking, wait, I've

541
00:32:29.120 --> 00:32:31.640
lived here for how many years?

542
00:32:31.960 --> 00:32:33.560
And I have not once.

543
00:32:34.160 --> 00:32:35.720
I mean, yes, I talk about my faith.

544
00:32:35.720 --> 00:32:43.800
I talk about God, I, but I'm not very, I probably talk about my faith more online

545
00:32:43.800 --> 00:32:44.680
than I do in person.

546
00:32:44.680 --> 00:32:47.280
And I'm thinking it was almost like I felt convicted.

547
00:32:47.280 --> 00:32:48.040
Like, wow.

548
00:32:50.040 --> 00:32:52.080
I've never like said anything to these people.

549
00:32:52.120 --> 00:32:54.640
Like I'm, you know, God put me here.

550
00:32:55.720 --> 00:33:00.040
So then I'm like, Oh, and I didn't feel condemned, but it was kind of like an

551
00:33:00.040 --> 00:33:00.760
eye-opener.

552
00:33:00.760 --> 00:33:02.240
Like, what do I do with that?

553
00:33:03.160 --> 00:33:03.520
Yeah.

554
00:33:03.920 --> 00:33:05.440
Well, it's really fascinating.

555
00:33:05.440 --> 00:33:07.840
So remember that we're the body of Christ.

556
00:33:08.080 --> 00:33:11.240
We keep telling wanting Christ to do things, but we're his body.

557
00:33:11.280 --> 00:33:12.560
The head doesn't do anything.

558
00:33:12.560 --> 00:33:13.200
The body does.

559
00:33:14.120 --> 00:33:15.280
The body has the hands.

560
00:33:15.280 --> 00:33:20.760
The body has the feet body takes the places the body, like, you know, grabs

561
00:33:20.760 --> 00:33:24.800
things in the body, manipulates tools and does stuff.

562
00:33:24.920 --> 00:33:26.360
The head gets direction.

563
00:33:27.560 --> 00:33:30.040
And so it's just getting, it's doesn't.

564
00:33:30.080 --> 00:33:35.080
And I'm not trying to, I'm just trying to use that as a simple explanation.

565
00:33:35.080 --> 00:33:39.440
I'm not trying to say that Christ doesn't do anything, but the thing is that, um,

566
00:33:39.480 --> 00:33:46.920
that we're supposed to be Christ to others, meaning that when they see Christ,

567
00:33:47.280 --> 00:33:53.560
we're who he sends, they're asking and crying out subconsciously in their, in

568
00:33:53.560 --> 00:33:55.400
their souls, you know, for something they don't need.

569
00:33:55.400 --> 00:33:58.360
Some of them don't even know how to, how to, how to verbalize.

570
00:33:58.640 --> 00:34:02.440
They are calling out and crying out for their creator.

571
00:34:03.400 --> 00:34:09.480
And so God sends us because we're supposed to show them not in a, in a manner of

572
00:34:09.480 --> 00:34:17.400
speaking, not point to him, but actually be him like walk in the room.

573
00:34:17.719 --> 00:34:22.679
So in a way that it's actually Jesus walking into the room because our

574
00:34:22.679 --> 00:34:24.920
spirits are intertwined with his.

575
00:34:25.400 --> 00:34:27.440
And I don't mean that they look at us.

576
00:34:27.440 --> 00:34:30.239
Like they look at Casey or they look at Ashley and they see us

577
00:34:30.239 --> 00:34:31.360
that, oh my word, we're Jesus.

578
00:34:31.400 --> 00:34:32.159
I don't mean that.

579
00:34:32.159 --> 00:34:35.960
I just mean his spirit within us, you know, and where they interact with it

580
00:34:35.960 --> 00:34:40.520
in such a way where it transforms them because they've interacted with Christ.

581
00:34:40.520 --> 00:34:42.840
They've been, because our spirits are now one with Christ.

582
00:34:43.000 --> 00:34:47.960
They interact with his spirit and they change and transform into sons.

583
00:34:47.960 --> 00:34:49.520
That's how disciples are made.

584
00:34:49.719 --> 00:34:51.920
It's another, it's, um, also.

585
00:34:52.600 --> 00:34:59.000
Like the, um, what you're describing is also like, uh, the, what Jesus was saying

586
00:34:59.000 --> 00:34:59.920
when he said, you know, I.

587
00:35:00.000 --> 00:35:04.240
was Jesus. I don't think it was Paul. Well, somewhere in the new Testament, you know,

588
00:35:04.240 --> 00:35:11.200
one of them was saying, you know, it don't just, uh, just if someone comes to you and they're

589
00:35:11.200 --> 00:35:17.040
hungry and they're cold, don't you've heard me use this example before, you know, don't just

590
00:35:17.040 --> 00:35:21.680
tell them, you know, send them on their way and say, well, may God, may God take care of you.

591
00:35:21.680 --> 00:35:30.560
May God bless you or whatever. That's similar to us, us praying for people and saying, oh God,

592
00:35:30.560 --> 00:35:35.520
you know, may they see you, may they, may they run into you, maybe encounter you or whatever.

593
00:35:36.480 --> 00:35:43.040
And then what we're told to do is, is that don't send them off, wishing them well. And that may

594
00:35:43.040 --> 00:35:46.640
between them and that made me, they receive what they need between them and the Lord.

595
00:35:46.640 --> 00:35:52.960
It says we give it to them, what we want for them, we give to them. And it actually requires

596
00:35:52.960 --> 00:35:58.560
something from us. It's not even, we actually give them piece and parcel of ourselves. We give them

597
00:35:58.560 --> 00:36:04.080
our coat. We give them the food that we were going to take that we were going to use that we have in

598
00:36:04.080 --> 00:36:11.920
our pantry. We give it to them. So, um, anyway, when we, so it's not in any way to like condemn

599
00:36:12.080 --> 00:36:17.440
for, you know, praying for other people and you're like, you know, you can't talk to everybody,

600
00:36:17.440 --> 00:36:21.920
but I'm just talking about very generally in relationship to the question that you were

601
00:36:21.920 --> 00:36:26.800
asking yourself, well, wait a minute, you know, it's falling in line with what Paul or Jesus that

602
00:36:26.800 --> 00:36:32.080
I remember who it was, was, was, um, what it was that they were saying when they said, you know,

603
00:36:32.080 --> 00:36:37.760
if we see a need, if we desire something out of the heart that God has given us, that reflects

604
00:36:37.760 --> 00:36:44.640
his character of loving other people. And, and, um, I was going to say like wishing the best for

605
00:36:44.640 --> 00:36:51.280
them, but you know, wanting them to draw close to the Lord will then we are what he sends. We're the

606
00:36:51.280 --> 00:37:00.320
answer that God sends them to their prayer. You know, when they asked for fulfillment of a need,

607
00:37:00.320 --> 00:37:08.080
God said, since us to fulfill that need from ourselves, not to pull it from somewhere else,

608
00:37:08.800 --> 00:37:16.960
but actually it requires us. Um, and, uh, anyway, so, uh, so as far as like, you know,

609
00:37:16.960 --> 00:37:22.080
going back to what you were asking about disciples. So yeah, the disciples are basically

610
00:37:22.080 --> 00:37:33.680
people transforming more and more into, into, um, uh, Transforming more and more into maturing

611
00:37:33.680 --> 00:37:38.400
and looking more and more like their father transforming more and more into a son of God,

612
00:37:38.400 --> 00:37:43.280
meaning like they already are a sense of God, but you're trying, they're transforming more and more

613
00:37:43.280 --> 00:37:48.080
to be more mature, to look more and more like God, look more and more like their father.

614
00:37:48.080 --> 00:37:52.800
Cause they're the sons of their father looking more and more like him. And that's what the

615
00:37:52.800 --> 00:37:59.120
maturity of discipleship is, is looking more and more like their father. And what, and so anyway,

616
00:37:59.120 --> 00:38:08.080
the way that they do that is not by obeying a master, but by, but by becoming intimate with a

617
00:38:08.080 --> 00:38:18.080
husband, you know, God. Yeah. Um, and, uh, and so in it's in that happens through exposure to his

618
00:38:18.080 --> 00:38:27.680
presence. So we are sent to expose them to God that they can interact with, you know, kind of

619
00:38:27.680 --> 00:38:35.120
like a tangible way of seeing how does God interact with me in my mess when I'm struggling, when I'm

620
00:38:35.120 --> 00:38:44.000
her, when I'm, you know, self condemning, when I'm self doubting, we give them the experience

621
00:38:44.720 --> 00:38:51.360
and how we interact with them. Um, in a physical way, we physically give them the experience of

622
00:38:51.360 --> 00:39:02.880
what it is like to interact with God. And it's hard, but that's how we make disciples is because

623
00:39:02.880 --> 00:39:12.160
they experience God, not because they learn. They learn. Um, uh, I don't know all the, uh,

624
00:39:12.160 --> 00:39:16.080
you know, they learn the Bible backwards and forwards and they, and they know all the law

625
00:39:16.080 --> 00:39:21.920
and they'll know all the principles and they know all of this stuff. Um, I even had a, I had a call

626
00:39:21.920 --> 00:39:26.480
today with someone who's interested in joining the next rest intensive. And it was, is the,

627
00:39:26.480 --> 00:39:31.760
one of the application little clarity calls that I do. And she was cause the, and I always ask

628
00:39:31.760 --> 00:39:35.680
everyone, you know, so why, why were you interested in joining the rest intensive? You know,

629
00:39:35.680 --> 00:39:40.960
what is it? Where are you right now? And they said, you know, I know all of this stuff. They're

630
00:39:40.960 --> 00:39:46.240
like, I listened to, you know, I, a lot of, uh, some of what I teach, you know, about like, uh,

631
00:39:46.240 --> 00:39:50.480
the three realms and stuff like that. I learned from Chris Blackaby. And so she knows that. And

632
00:39:50.480 --> 00:39:56.080
so she said, she said, she said, I know all that hundred fold stuff. She said, I teach it. I know

633
00:39:56.080 --> 00:39:59.760
what I have lived it for two and a half years. She said, but my life.

634
00:40:00.000 --> 00:40:07.920
isn't changing. She said, that is why I am here. And I was like, exactly. It's like knowledge

635
00:40:07.920 --> 00:40:15.680
can't change us into disciples. It can't transform us, but experiencing God does.

636
00:40:16.320 --> 00:40:20.480
So what I do with the rest intensive, and that's why I write the little write-up that I do about

637
00:40:20.480 --> 00:40:25.920
something about, you know, the rest intensive is an, is an immersive spiritual environment

638
00:40:25.920 --> 00:40:31.680
or something like that. It's because what I try to do is I try to allow them to interact with

639
00:40:32.720 --> 00:40:40.640
an expression of God so that they can experience that it's true. And so when, as opposed to just

640
00:40:40.640 --> 00:40:46.480
learning more stuff. So I try to hold this space for them that God holds for them at this part in

641
00:40:46.480 --> 00:40:50.480
their journey. You know, cause I'm not, I don't walk with people, you know, through all of their

642
00:40:50.480 --> 00:40:55.520
lives. I just walk with people once they get here. And then when, when they get here, you know,

643
00:40:55.520 --> 00:40:59.440
that's what I have the grace for. It doesn't mean that I just like, stop talking to people after

644
00:40:59.440 --> 00:41:04.560
this, but I, but I'm just talking about like, like just talking, just trying to like, be simple here,

645
00:41:04.560 --> 00:41:08.240
you know, in the rest intensive, they have to be to this point in their relationship forward.

646
00:41:08.240 --> 00:41:12.960
And then I help them walk to this point. This is what I have grace for. I don't have grace for

647
00:41:12.960 --> 00:41:18.480
this. I don't have grace for this, but I have grace for this. And so what I do is, is I try to

648
00:41:18.480 --> 00:41:26.000
help people experience the truths that I'm trying to help them live out in their own relationship

649
00:41:26.000 --> 00:41:30.880
with the Lord. If I say the Lord is this good, that is what I need to be to them.

650
00:41:31.920 --> 00:41:36.720
If I say that the Lord loves them unconditionally, doesn't abandon them is there for them is

651
00:41:36.720 --> 00:41:46.480
whatever, then that's what I be, who is my God to me. And that is what I be to others. And anyway,

652
00:41:46.480 --> 00:41:52.480
and one of the, I had a lady tell me several, I don't remember when, but a while back, she was

653
00:41:52.480 --> 00:41:59.120
telling me that the thing that, that made the biggest difference for her in the rest intensive,

654
00:41:59.120 --> 00:42:05.200
in other words, helped change her was the fact that she finally could experience when she was in

655
00:42:05.200 --> 00:42:09.760
it by her interactions with me, like on like calls and whatever she said, I could finally experience

656
00:42:09.760 --> 00:42:16.400
the things that I'd always heard God was. So it helped me realize it's real. God probably,

657
00:42:16.400 --> 00:42:20.800
if I'm experiencing this, it means it's actually true. And I'd never seen it before.

658
00:42:20.800 --> 00:42:26.480
Then now I can more readily believe that God's like that too, because it's hard for me to believe

659
00:42:26.480 --> 00:42:31.360
that God is like something that I've never even seen again. Why we're always looking for proof.

660
00:42:31.360 --> 00:42:35.360
We're always looking for evidence now. Yes. Does God tell us to have faith? Absolutely.

661
00:42:36.000 --> 00:42:41.120
But he also tries to give us evidence and proof to help us along the way to help build our faith.

662
00:42:41.120 --> 00:42:45.200
And we do the same thing for others. We give them proof. We give them evidence. We give them

663
00:42:45.200 --> 00:42:51.440
experience so that they can actually believe, okay, wow, this is evidence. This is proof. So

664
00:42:51.440 --> 00:42:58.320
it must be true. What God says about himself. So anyway, that's how we make disciples is exposing

665
00:42:58.320 --> 00:43:06.880
them to the, to, to God himself, to allow them to experience God through us. And that's hard

666
00:43:06.880 --> 00:43:13.120
because we have to handle them in the way that God handles us going through the messy bits.

667
00:43:13.680 --> 00:43:17.120
That's what, that's what people are worried about. People aren't worried about how God

668
00:43:17.120 --> 00:43:20.480
interacts with them when they feel good about themselves, when they feel that they're doing

669
00:43:20.480 --> 00:43:24.800
good, when they feel that they've done enough, they're wondering what will God do and how will

670
00:43:24.880 --> 00:43:31.520
interact with me when I've fallen short of my own expectations and can I ever fall short

671
00:43:31.520 --> 00:43:38.480
of God's acceptance of me? So we have to not let other people fall short of our expectations of

672
00:43:38.480 --> 00:43:44.480
them though. Did I say that right? To feel that they fallen short of our expectations of them

673
00:43:44.480 --> 00:43:51.600
and that we won't accept them anymore, that we've tied, that we've tied their actions to our

674
00:43:52.240 --> 00:43:57.200
acceptance of them, you know, our receptivity, you know, that kind of a thing. Now, I'm not

675
00:43:57.200 --> 00:44:00.560
talking about enabling abuse. I'm not talking about that. I'm just, you know, what I'm talking

676
00:44:00.560 --> 00:44:05.760
about. I'm talking about, you know, us changing our paradigm of, um, of how we interact with other

677
00:44:05.760 --> 00:44:11.600
people. So anyway, that's, that's what makes disciples is exposure to God's spirit. It's

678
00:44:11.600 --> 00:44:22.960
himself. We don't, it's God's. We don't do that. It's their exposure to God in us and the, the,

679
00:44:22.960 --> 00:44:30.960
the oneness of our spirit with his that will change them. So the reason I say all of that is

680
00:44:31.600 --> 00:44:39.200
the pressures off of us. We can't create the outcome and we don't, we just simply

681
00:44:39.200 --> 00:44:44.480
expose them to God and ensure we sacrifice of ourselves, who pour ourselves out, but

682
00:44:44.480 --> 00:44:51.520
our actions don't create the results in their life. That's simply done very effortlessly when

683
00:44:51.520 --> 00:44:57.680
they get exposed to God. That's why when people start the rest intensive, I'm telling you what,

684
00:44:57.680 --> 00:44:59.840
and y'all showed, you know, y'all did the same thing.

685
00:45:00.000 --> 00:45:03.920
It's like, if I just kind of like start everyone out and say, okay.

686
00:45:03.920 --> 00:45:06.040
And I point them to God, okay.

687
00:45:06.040 --> 00:45:10.240
Do this with the Lord, you know, spend time with or whatever, but I make everyone, I try

688
00:45:10.240 --> 00:45:14.660
to create a safe environment for people to feel they can finally do it because I try

689
00:45:14.660 --> 00:45:16.840
to make them feel safe with me.

690
00:45:16.840 --> 00:45:20.200
And then in feeling safe with me and in the environment and the, on the zoom call that

691
00:45:20.200 --> 00:45:25.440
we're in, or sometimes when I'm in the room with people, you know, then they finally feel,

692
00:45:25.440 --> 00:45:28.280
okay, well maybe I can do this with the Lord.

693
00:45:28.280 --> 00:45:30.760
And then when they do it with the Lord, it's the Lord that meets them.

694
00:45:30.760 --> 00:45:35.400
And all of a sudden everything changes and they've hardly learned anything about rest.

695
00:45:35.400 --> 00:45:36.940
It's not, it's not the knowledge.

696
00:45:36.940 --> 00:45:42.040
It's just simply exposing them to God and God starts doing stuff.

697
00:45:42.040 --> 00:45:47.060
Think of everything that has changed in your life, you know, in the past 12 weeks and think

698
00:45:47.060 --> 00:45:53.220
comparatively to the few times that you've met with me, God, that was you and God working

699
00:45:53.220 --> 00:45:56.240
all of that out, him touching your spirit.

700
00:45:56.240 --> 00:45:57.720
It's not me.

701
00:45:58.160 --> 00:46:00.920
In other words, my point, the reason I keep talking about me is, you know, we're talking

702
00:46:00.920 --> 00:46:03.760
about like, how do we make, help make disciples?

703
00:46:03.760 --> 00:46:05.680
It's not us.

704
00:46:05.680 --> 00:46:12.360
It's just us simply, simply giving them an experience of God, but it's God himself in

705
00:46:12.360 --> 00:46:13.360
there.

706
00:46:13.360 --> 00:46:17.320
When they see that and they experienced that, that changes them because it's God's spirit

707
00:46:17.320 --> 00:46:22.640
that will turn a person into a, into a son and will continue to mature them.

708
00:46:22.640 --> 00:46:26.840
It's not our work and our effort and are trying to convince them to believe things.

709
00:46:26.960 --> 00:46:32.320
And that didn't change anybody that doesn't have substance and it can't help someone,

710
00:46:32.320 --> 00:46:37.760
you know, when they received a diagnosis or when their child is sick or their whatever,

711
00:46:37.760 --> 00:46:39.960
they have to own that between them and the Lord.

712
00:46:39.960 --> 00:46:47.760
They there were not changed in our minds were transformed in our, you know, in our soul.

713
00:46:47.760 --> 00:46:50.200
So anyway, right.

714
00:46:50.200 --> 00:46:51.200
That's helpful.

715
00:46:51.200 --> 00:46:52.200
Very helpful.

716
00:46:52.200 --> 00:46:56.720
And it's, it's something I think I've always felt in my spirit, but then I see, I know

717
00:46:57.600 --> 00:47:03.480
it's like, it's like, there's like, it's just doesn't, they don't mesh.

718
00:47:03.480 --> 00:47:09.320
And then it makes you feel, it makes you feel off or crazy because you're like, well, surely

719
00:47:09.320 --> 00:47:13.880
everybody else, if everybody else is agreeing that this is how you do it.

720
00:47:13.880 --> 00:47:18.400
And they, they've gotten some of these people, they've got ministries and they apparently

721
00:47:18.400 --> 00:47:19.400
it works.

722
00:47:19.400 --> 00:47:20.400
I mean, surely they would know.

723
00:47:20.400 --> 00:47:24.520
I mean, my goodness, you know, I don't have something that can compare to that, you know,

724
00:47:24.520 --> 00:47:25.520
from a worldly standpoint.

725
00:47:25.840 --> 00:47:26.840
So they asked me, right.

726
00:47:26.840 --> 00:47:27.840
And they all agree.

727
00:47:27.840 --> 00:47:28.840
And they're all following.

728
00:47:28.840 --> 00:47:33.120
So I would be swimming against this, swimming against the current.

729
00:47:33.120 --> 00:47:37.640
So I probably just am, am just not letting it be enough.

730
00:47:37.640 --> 00:47:42.000
You know, I'm just probably not being content with how things work.

731
00:47:42.000 --> 00:47:47.240
And we just start questioning as opposed to realizing we're living in a matrix.

732
00:47:47.240 --> 00:47:52.980
And there's something in us that knows something's off, but we have to value that.

733
00:47:52.980 --> 00:47:59.580
We have to value that voice and ask the Lord and really probe into it as opposed to just

734
00:47:59.580 --> 00:48:06.500
having a, having a tendency to self-doubt and self-condemn and squelch the Holy spirit.

735
00:48:06.500 --> 00:48:07.500
Right.

736
00:48:07.500 --> 00:48:13.460
You know, just as encouragement to you of like, so if you think of this, you know, what

737
00:48:13.460 --> 00:48:17.820
other areas are you like kind of questioning or like something's something doesn't seem

738
00:48:17.820 --> 00:48:18.940
quite right.

739
00:48:18.940 --> 00:48:21.900
It could simply be your approach to it.

740
00:48:21.900 --> 00:48:29.180
Or it could be that the way that it's working is not the way it's supposed to work for instance,

741
00:48:29.180 --> 00:48:30.540
how did I learn about rest?

742
00:48:30.540 --> 00:48:33.700
I did not know anybody who was living like this.

743
00:48:33.700 --> 00:48:38.780
I mean, meaning like when I was like doing like in business and, and, and I was just,

744
00:48:38.780 --> 00:48:42.140
and God would tell me to do something and I'm like, Lord, that doesn't make any sense,

745
00:48:42.140 --> 00:48:45.940
you know, and all of the advice that I'm being given, being given and all of the business

746
00:48:45.940 --> 00:48:48.740
professionals that I know they operate very differently.

747
00:48:49.740 --> 00:48:52.820
It's just that the Christian ones put godly terms on it.

748
00:48:52.820 --> 00:48:58.420
And I'm like, Lord, something in my spirit and Lord, they're making all this money.

749
00:48:58.420 --> 00:49:02.860
So apparently it works, Lord, why can't I be satisfied with it?

750
00:49:02.860 --> 00:49:08.140
I'm not, this isn't right, but I don't know why.

751
00:49:08.140 --> 00:49:14.420
And so, and I don't have anybody who agrees with me and I have people who tell me, well,

752
00:49:14.420 --> 00:49:17.620
actually you need to be going to other people for advice and whatever.

753
00:49:17.620 --> 00:49:21.540
And I'm like, Lord, you know, about how to handle certain situations in business or whatever.

754
00:49:21.540 --> 00:49:26.860
And I'm going, Nope, that is not how I believe that God's character actually is.

755
00:49:26.860 --> 00:49:32.580
So all that I was left with was just, okay, God, this is, this is the quandary that I'm

756
00:49:32.580 --> 00:49:34.340
in.

757
00:49:34.340 --> 00:49:37.380
I don't know, really know what it is I'm looking for.

758
00:49:37.380 --> 00:49:39.780
I just don't believe this is it.

759
00:49:39.780 --> 00:49:41.540
So Lord, just tell me what to do.

760
00:49:41.540 --> 00:49:44.620
And so we'll say, he would say, okay, do this.

761
00:49:44.620 --> 00:49:48.260
This is how to handle this situation with this person, or this is what to say in this

762
00:49:48.260 --> 00:49:52.180
meeting, or this is what to do with this project, or this is whatever.

763
00:49:52.180 --> 00:49:58.220
And I would just blindly follow things that would be seen as a risk to my professional

764
00:49:58.220 --> 00:49:59.780
career.

765
00:50:00.000 --> 00:50:03.520
were a major risk to my professional career.

766
00:50:03.520 --> 00:50:06.760
It depends on the situation as to how shockingly risky

767
00:50:06.760 --> 00:50:07.760
those things were.

768
00:50:07.760 --> 00:50:10.600
I mean, like literally I'm risking being fired for things,

769
00:50:10.600 --> 00:50:14.280
you know, and it was just because God said, God said,

770
00:50:14.280 --> 00:50:16.920
God said, but I didn't know what I was doing.

771
00:50:16.920 --> 00:50:20.520
And so my point is just to encourage you that if you don't,

772
00:50:20.520 --> 00:50:22.800
if something seems unsettling, you know,

773
00:50:22.800 --> 00:50:26.520
ask the Lord to help reveal to you, you know,

774
00:50:26.520 --> 00:50:30.760
and kind of explore with him what else it could be.

775
00:50:32.000 --> 00:50:35.880
And, but, and then just, and then,

776
00:50:35.880 --> 00:50:38.320
and then if he doesn't reveal to you

777
00:50:38.320 --> 00:50:41.280
in terms that you understand, like, like the principle,

778
00:50:41.280 --> 00:50:43.400
oh, well this, Casey, this is what's going on.

779
00:50:43.400 --> 00:50:44.680
And this is how it works.

780
00:50:44.680 --> 00:50:45.800
He may not do that.

781
00:50:45.800 --> 00:50:48.380
He didn't do that with me in that particular situation.

782
00:50:48.380 --> 00:50:49.220
Sometimes he does.

783
00:50:49.220 --> 00:50:51.680
Sometimes he'll tell me a principle and I'm like, oh, okay.

784
00:50:51.680 --> 00:50:53.600
Well, so this is what's going on.

785
00:50:53.600 --> 00:50:56.040
And other times I don't get a principle.

786
00:50:56.560 --> 00:50:59.280
I just hear do this or don't do this.

787
00:50:59.280 --> 00:51:02.000
I'm like, okay, I don't know why, but here we go.

788
00:51:02.000 --> 00:51:04.280
And then as I proved myself faithful

789
00:51:04.280 --> 00:51:07.000
in being obedient to the Lord and choosing him over myself,

790
00:51:07.000 --> 00:51:10.280
he then began to reveal to me patterns and relationships

791
00:51:10.280 --> 00:51:13.200
and then taught me the principle of what was going on

792
00:51:13.200 --> 00:51:16.520
and why the way everybody else was doing it

793
00:51:16.520 --> 00:51:19.720
doesn't work in an eternal standpoint.

794
00:51:19.720 --> 00:51:22.560
It works in worldly standpoint,

795
00:51:22.560 --> 00:51:24.520
but that leads to nothing but death.

796
00:51:24.520 --> 00:51:27.680
It doesn't jive with the kingdom.

797
00:51:27.680 --> 00:51:29.640
And I was searching for the kingdom.

798
00:51:29.640 --> 00:51:32.360
I was wanting to live from the kingdom.

799
00:51:32.360 --> 00:51:35.000
And so anyway, then the Lord began to reveal to me,

800
00:51:35.000 --> 00:51:36.840
okay, Ashley, this is the principles of the kingdom

801
00:51:36.840 --> 00:51:38.040
that you've been operating in.

802
00:51:38.040 --> 00:51:40.620
When you didn't know what you were doing,

803
00:51:40.620 --> 00:51:44.240
you just heard me say do it and you did.

804
00:51:44.240 --> 00:51:46.360
So anyway, over time he revealed the principles.

805
00:51:46.360 --> 00:51:49.420
But so I chose, here's a big thing,

806
00:51:49.420 --> 00:51:52.140
choose God over understanding him.

807
00:51:52.140 --> 00:51:54.420
Choose God over understanding why you're doing

808
00:51:55.260 --> 00:51:57.220
what you're doing or why things are working

809
00:51:57.220 --> 00:52:00.200
the way that they're working or why you don't feel,

810
00:52:02.220 --> 00:52:06.260
you don't feel, I don't know, like you belong,

811
00:52:06.260 --> 00:52:09.900
connect with, understand, or are in alignment

812
00:52:09.900 --> 00:52:13.980
with the environment or the operating principles around you.

813
00:52:15.460 --> 00:52:17.620
Choose him over those things

814
00:52:17.620 --> 00:52:19.660
and then he'll guide you through them.

815
00:52:19.660 --> 00:52:22.020
He'll guide you basically through this landmine

816
00:52:22.100 --> 00:52:25.780
of everything that seems contradictory

817
00:52:25.780 --> 00:52:28.380
to what it is that you're doing and what it is you believe.

818
00:52:28.380 --> 00:52:31.220
So choose him over learning a principle

819
00:52:32.140 --> 00:52:33.900
and he'll reveal the principle

820
00:52:33.900 --> 00:52:35.860
because he won't let anything get in the way

821
00:52:35.860 --> 00:52:37.260
of your, his relationship with you,

822
00:52:37.260 --> 00:52:39.220
including you learning more about him,

823
00:52:40.420 --> 00:52:42.340
including you learning his principle, et cetera.

824
00:52:42.340 --> 00:52:45.180
So once you choose him and remember what is that?

825
00:52:45.180 --> 00:52:48.780
Is that Hebrews 11, six.

826
00:52:48.780 --> 00:52:51.940
Do you remember me talking about that one?

827
00:52:52.940 --> 00:52:56.780
Choosing God, God himself over anything else.

828
00:52:56.780 --> 00:52:58.780
And that's what faith is.

829
00:52:58.780 --> 00:53:00.580
Oh, yes, yes.

830
00:53:00.580 --> 00:53:02.060
I know about, yes.

831
00:53:02.060 --> 00:53:03.080
I don't remember.

832
00:53:05.180 --> 00:53:06.620
Oh, what is that scripture?

833
00:53:14.340 --> 00:53:16.020
That's it, that's odd.

834
00:53:16.020 --> 00:53:16.860
Oh, here we go.

835
00:53:16.860 --> 00:53:20.940
Hebrews 11 and then Hebrews six.

836
00:53:20.940 --> 00:53:22.020
And then it says,

837
00:53:22.020 --> 00:53:24.420
and without faith, it's impossible to please him

838
00:53:24.420 --> 00:53:28.020
for he who comes to God must believe that he is,

839
00:53:28.020 --> 00:53:29.700
in other words, that he exists

840
00:53:29.700 --> 00:53:34.380
and that he's a rewarder of those who seek him,

841
00:53:34.380 --> 00:53:37.300
not seek to learn about him, not seek to follow him,

842
00:53:37.300 --> 00:53:39.060
seek him.

843
00:53:39.060 --> 00:53:42.180
So you choose him over understanding.

844
00:53:42.180 --> 00:53:45.420
You choose him over the principles.

845
00:53:45.420 --> 00:53:47.780
And then when you've chosen him, then he says,

846
00:53:47.780 --> 00:53:49.700
now I can entrust you with knowing about me.

847
00:53:49.740 --> 00:53:54.620
Now I can entrust you with revealing my character,

848
00:53:54.620 --> 00:53:55.940
with who I really am.

849
00:53:55.940 --> 00:54:00.020
Now I can entrust you with,

850
00:54:00.020 --> 00:54:03.980
and trust you with my principles and knowing my principles

851
00:54:03.980 --> 00:54:05.780
because you've chosen me over them.

852
00:54:07.380 --> 00:54:09.100
So anyway, if that's helpful.

853
00:54:10.100 --> 00:54:10.940
It is helpful.

854
00:54:10.940 --> 00:54:11.900
It actually makes me realize,

855
00:54:11.900 --> 00:54:15.820
like, I feel like the Lord has been silent

856
00:54:15.820 --> 00:54:18.820
and I'm realizing that he actually hasn't been silent.

857
00:54:18.820 --> 00:54:21.740
Well, I think he's quit talking

858
00:54:21.740 --> 00:54:24.180
because I've been choosing not to listen to him.

859
00:54:24.180 --> 00:54:25.020
So he's kind of like,

860
00:54:25.020 --> 00:54:27.420
oh, well, when you want to start talking.

861
00:54:27.420 --> 00:54:28.940
Let me know when you're ready.

862
00:54:30.980 --> 00:54:35.820
And it's just encouraging just because I feel like,

863
00:54:35.820 --> 00:54:38.260
oh, okay, this is just easy.

864
00:54:38.260 --> 00:54:40.660
Like, I feel like I've, now that you're,

865
00:54:41.580 --> 00:54:42.700
after listening to what you've said,

866
00:54:42.700 --> 00:54:45.860
I've felt like I've heard him speak certain things to me

867
00:54:45.860 --> 00:54:50.260
that I just, whether I didn't know that it was him talking

868
00:54:50.260 --> 00:54:52.220
or I just kind of like threw it under the rug

869
00:54:52.220 --> 00:54:54.100
and kept going kind of thing.

870
00:54:55.700 --> 00:54:57.060
But I realized it's,

871
00:54:57.060 --> 00:54:59.620
I'm wanting to understand it before I.

872
00:55:00.000 --> 00:55:07.200
Choose him. And yeah. Yeah. And that's something we talked about way, way, way, way back. Like,

873
00:55:07.200 --> 00:55:11.200
I don't know, 10 or 11 weeks ago. I mean, we talked about it as a group.

874
00:55:12.160 --> 00:55:19.680
You know, about not, um, not requiring things to reconcile before we choose faith.

875
00:55:20.480 --> 00:55:27.280
Right. We can't try to end it. We can't. Because that's holding a condition over God,

876
00:55:27.280 --> 00:55:31.680
God, what's more important to me is understanding why, what I was doing, didn't work. And why,

877
00:55:31.680 --> 00:55:38.240
what you're saying I should do does work over him. We're choosing the understanding over him.

878
00:55:38.240 --> 00:55:42.800
We're idolizing that over him. And we're putting a condition on our relationship with God. And

879
00:55:42.800 --> 00:55:48.480
we're putting it on hold and saying, okay, God, I won't move further until you reconcile this for

880
00:55:48.480 --> 00:55:56.880
me. And God said, no, I want you to move blindly because you choose me without the understanding.

881
00:55:57.280 --> 00:56:03.920
Then I will gift you the understanding now that I can entrust you with it because you chose me.

882
00:56:03.920 --> 00:56:08.560
That's the, it's the same thing that he, he presented Abraham with. He's like, what do you

883
00:56:08.560 --> 00:56:13.120
choose? Do you choose my promise or do you choose me? Cause that's what Isaac was. Isaac was the

884
00:56:13.120 --> 00:56:19.840
promise. And so it's like, do you choose what I promised you or do you choose me? And Abraham

885
00:56:19.840 --> 00:56:24.320
said, I choose you. And God's like, okay, now I can entrust you with the promise.

886
00:56:24.880 --> 00:56:29.280
Because I can't entrust you with a, with the promise. When the whole point of the

887
00:56:29.280 --> 00:56:36.080
promise was to give you me, then I can't entrust myself with you. If you choose it over me,

888
00:56:36.080 --> 00:56:44.480
I'm not safe with you. You know? Right. Yeah. So if you choose that over your to-do list,

889
00:56:44.480 --> 00:56:48.800
everything that needs to get done, trying to sell your house or whatever, God will take over

890
00:56:48.800 --> 00:56:52.880
and everything will happen. You'll get all of the stuff done that you need to get done.

891
00:56:52.880 --> 00:56:55.920
He'll take care of, he'll take care of everything. There will things you won't,

892
00:56:55.920 --> 00:57:00.240
there were, there are things that you will not have to do because God will set things

893
00:57:00.240 --> 00:57:10.800
up so that it, that completely nullifies you even needing to do it. And anyway, yeah. Yeah.

894
00:57:10.800 --> 00:57:16.160
So because you choose him over that, and I've watched multiple people actually through

895
00:57:16.720 --> 00:57:24.400
selling and buying of homes. And one of the things that I watched one couple through it for probably

896
00:57:24.400 --> 00:57:32.240
like I don't know, like two years, a year and a half, two years, something like that. And I'm

897
00:57:32.240 --> 00:57:38.080
telling you what it was so emotional for them. Oh my word. It was so emotional. And I, and I

898
00:57:38.080 --> 00:57:43.200
remember sitting with the, with the couple at one point thinking, I can't believe after all this

899
00:57:43.200 --> 00:57:48.480
time, I'm still sitting here talking with him. Cause I happen to be with them at the time

900
00:57:48.480 --> 00:57:53.680
thinking I'm still talking about the same thing. They're still in the same situation. So I, I got

901
00:57:53.680 --> 00:57:58.560
very, very honest with them. I said, here's, here's the thing I said, in order to get traction,

902
00:57:58.560 --> 00:58:01.360
because they're like, we're stuck, you know, we keep having this conversation and, you know,

903
00:58:01.360 --> 00:58:04.320
we, we've been wanting to do it for like a year, year and a half or whatever it was.

904
00:58:04.960 --> 00:58:10.320
And I, and there's like, nothing's moving. I said is because you've got to open yourself up.

905
00:58:10.320 --> 00:58:15.040
You've got to stop putting the limitations on the Lord, you know, whatever. Anyway. So they

906
00:58:15.040 --> 00:58:19.040
finally started doing that. They finally started letting go, you know, just like, okay, God,

907
00:58:19.040 --> 00:58:22.800
you take over. And it's not about us and what we create and what we do and what we want and

908
00:58:22.800 --> 00:58:29.440
wanting to make sure that you do it that way, whatever you want, Lord. And and they not only

909
00:58:30.080 --> 00:58:38.400
sold their house immediately, but they I wish I could remember how much more it was over the

910
00:58:38.400 --> 00:58:45.200
asking price. I mean, we're talking like debt, like dozens of thousands of dollars over that

911
00:58:45.200 --> 00:58:51.680
price. I wish I could remember how much it was a lot, like a lot, a lot. Don't quote me on this,

912
00:58:51.680 --> 00:59:01.680
but I thought it was 90,000 over. Wow. That that can't be right. Anyway. It's a lot, a lot. Yeah.

913
00:59:01.680 --> 00:59:05.680
And they were like, guess how much more we got over it. I'm like, there you go. It's like you've

914
00:59:05.680 --> 00:59:11.680
got you, um, you know, because you finally gave the whole process of everything over to the Lord

915
00:59:11.680 --> 00:59:16.960
and because their home was emotional for them. They felt when they released their home, that

916
00:59:16.960 --> 00:59:22.400
they had failed in life because they had wanted to stay in that home and they'd wanted it to be

917
00:59:22.400 --> 00:59:28.240
established. And now they felt like they couldn't stay there financially anymore. And now they're

918
00:59:28.240 --> 00:59:32.480
having to let go of something that they feel that the let going of not only are they emotionally

919
00:59:32.480 --> 00:59:37.520
attached to it, but they felt that it was symbolizing their failure to, I mean, they've

920
00:59:37.520 --> 00:59:41.840
got a family and everything. They're very established in, in that place. So they finally

921
00:59:41.840 --> 00:59:46.400
let go of everything. And then that's what God did. And then God put them exactly in the type

922
00:59:46.400 --> 00:59:50.720
of house and the exact, the type of, in exactly the type of location that they had asked him for,

923
00:59:51.360 --> 00:59:58.080
but let go of everything in order for him to do everything. And so my, my point is it has

924
00:59:58.080 --> 00:59:59.840
happened over and over and over again.

925
01:00:00.000 --> 01:00:06.720
Where you just, not just that situation, but God, if we just, if we release God to be himself,

926
01:00:06.720 --> 01:00:11.280
then we just stand back and allow him to reveal his character, however he wants.

927
01:00:11.280 --> 01:00:16.640
And anyway, so my point is you seek him and you release everything else, and then it'll

928
01:00:16.640 --> 01:00:17.940
all get done.

929
01:00:17.940 --> 01:00:22.880
It's not your, the sell of your house and the move was initiated by the Lord and it's

930
01:00:22.880 --> 01:00:25.080
something the Lord is wanting to do.

931
01:00:25.080 --> 01:00:27.240
So let him do it.

932
01:00:27.240 --> 01:00:30.400
The burden, the weight and the responsibility isn't on you.

933
01:00:30.400 --> 01:00:34.080
So now that it's on you, it'll free you to do activities related to it.

934
01:00:34.080 --> 01:00:39.080
You know, getting together with the, with, I don't know, the real estate broker and all

935
01:00:39.080 --> 01:00:47.120
the energy that has to go into it, you know, but that you can do it without feeling the,

936
01:00:47.120 --> 01:00:51.840
the burden, the weight and the responsibility of what happens based off of your action or

937
01:00:51.840 --> 01:00:52.840
inaction.

938
01:00:52.840 --> 01:00:55.840
It's all up to the Lord now.

939
01:00:55.840 --> 01:00:56.840
Right.

940
01:00:57.440 --> 01:00:58.440
That's yes.

941
01:00:58.440 --> 01:01:01.600
That was just what I needed to hear.

942
01:01:01.600 --> 01:01:07.200
It's not on you anymore, but you have to choose that that is who he is and that you're safe

943
01:01:07.200 --> 01:01:08.200
with him.

944
01:01:08.200 --> 01:01:13.520
And now that you're safe with him, you will, you will be able to work and put, put effort.

945
01:01:13.520 --> 01:01:18.240
In other words, work, not striving, but just be able to put effort activity into it without

946
01:01:18.240 --> 01:01:21.400
feeling the burden and the pressure of it.

947
01:01:21.400 --> 01:01:22.400
Right.

948
01:01:22.400 --> 01:01:23.780
And then you can choose it as a joy.

949
01:01:23.780 --> 01:01:25.320
You can choose it as an interest.

950
01:01:25.320 --> 01:01:29.520
You're pouring things of your spirit into that home that the next people have the opportunity

951
01:01:29.520 --> 01:01:30.520
to inherit.

952
01:01:30.520 --> 01:01:31.520
Right.

953
01:01:31.520 --> 01:01:32.520
And realize.

954
01:01:32.520 --> 01:01:33.520
Yes.

955
01:01:33.520 --> 01:01:34.520
Only that comes in.

956
01:01:34.520 --> 01:01:37.960
So that's what you're doing when you're repainting and you have to set everything up with the

957
01:01:37.960 --> 01:01:38.960
painters.

958
01:01:38.960 --> 01:01:43.920
They had the privilege of coming into your home, you know, and then, and then being,

959
01:01:43.920 --> 01:01:46.320
you know, you never know what the Lord is going to do with that, even though you may

960
01:01:46.320 --> 01:01:48.760
never see it, how it might affect their lives.

961
01:01:48.760 --> 01:01:53.440
And then, and then, you know, the, and then, then I don't know, you're you setting all

962
01:01:53.440 --> 01:02:00.120
that up is, is you telling the home is like you putting order into the home so that it

963
01:02:00.120 --> 01:02:04.960
can approach and basically preparing it to receive the next people and to be something

964
01:02:04.960 --> 01:02:08.720
for the next people, you know, that kind of a thing.

965
01:02:08.720 --> 01:02:13.880
So you've got an authority in that home now, and then you get to bless and pour into the

966
01:02:13.880 --> 01:02:14.880
next people who come in.

967
01:02:14.880 --> 01:02:21.280
So that is how you can choose to live offensively as you into the earth.

968
01:02:21.280 --> 01:02:25.560
What do I want to do as opposed to, on my word, they say that in order to sell it, I

969
01:02:25.560 --> 01:02:26.560
have to do this.

970
01:02:26.560 --> 01:02:29.200
You got to work on the hot water and our foundation's messed up.

971
01:02:29.200 --> 01:02:31.400
And then you got to replace the roof.

972
01:02:31.400 --> 01:02:37.280
If we view it like that, then we're, we're not ruling right now.

973
01:02:37.280 --> 01:02:38.280
This is my home.

974
01:02:38.280 --> 01:02:40.760
This is how I am telling creation.

975
01:02:40.760 --> 01:02:42.300
I want it to come into order.

976
01:02:42.300 --> 01:02:43.560
So I'm bringing my home into order.

977
01:02:43.560 --> 01:02:46.520
I'm telling it, this is what I want you to do.

978
01:02:46.520 --> 01:02:47.520
So.

979
01:02:47.520 --> 01:02:48.520
Right.

980
01:02:48.520 --> 01:02:49.520
Yes.

981
01:02:49.520 --> 01:02:50.520
Different perspective.

982
01:02:50.760 --> 01:02:51.760
Right.

983
01:02:51.760 --> 01:02:52.760
Yeah.

984
01:02:52.760 --> 01:02:53.760
All good stuff.

985
01:02:53.760 --> 01:02:58.520
I feel like, yeah, this is probably the, the best transformation session, not like they've

986
01:02:58.520 --> 01:03:02.920
all been great, but I feel like if this, it's like helping me turn a corner that I really

987
01:03:02.920 --> 01:03:05.920
haven't in many ways.

988
01:03:05.920 --> 01:03:06.920
So.

989
01:03:06.920 --> 01:03:07.920
Good.

990
01:03:07.920 --> 01:03:13.840
Well, part of it is the fact that past transformation sessions have been about you leaving and escaping

991
01:03:13.840 --> 01:03:17.720
a negative, you know, you're, you're, how do, how do I get up and out?

992
01:03:17.720 --> 01:03:22.420
How do I finally start getting my head above water to breathe and whatever this is now

993
01:03:22.420 --> 01:03:26.720
that you're at a particular point, how do you get to live as a King?

994
01:03:26.720 --> 01:03:31.800
There's something exciting about that because you've, you've tasted freedom before.

995
01:03:31.800 --> 01:03:33.120
It's like you hadn't tasted freedom.

996
01:03:33.120 --> 01:03:35.920
You were trying, you were just having faith that there was something called freedom out

997
01:03:35.920 --> 01:03:39.800
there and it was supposed to be good and it was supposed to be better than what you had.

998
01:03:39.800 --> 01:03:44.220
But now that you've tasted it, now that you've seen the goodness of God in so many ways,

999
01:03:44.220 --> 01:03:48.660
How do you get to, how you get to enrich life even further?

1000
01:03:48.660 --> 01:03:51.940
And so there's something hopeful about it.

1001
01:03:51.940 --> 01:03:59.060
So it's always better to focus on the positive, you know, what we're trying to escape.

1002
01:03:59.060 --> 01:04:00.060
Yeah.

1003
01:04:00.060 --> 01:04:02.820
Oh, I'm excited for you though.

1004
01:04:02.820 --> 01:04:03.820
Thank you.

1005
01:04:03.820 --> 01:04:04.820
Thank you.

1006
01:04:04.820 --> 01:04:05.820
Full experience.

1007
01:04:05.820 --> 01:04:11.060
I'm still debating on the next run, joining their next, next rest intensive.

1008
01:04:11.060 --> 01:04:14.040
I might have, I might have person or two.

1009
01:04:14.040 --> 01:04:15.040
So we will see.

1010
01:04:15.040 --> 01:04:16.040
Good.

1011
01:04:16.040 --> 01:04:20.040
Well, it's totally up to you as to whether or not you want it to be part of your journey.

1012
01:04:20.040 --> 01:04:21.520
You know how I always word it like that.

1013
01:04:21.520 --> 01:04:25.960
I want to make sure people understand, also want to make sure people understand that the

1014
01:04:25.960 --> 01:04:30.480
incentive that I'm creating for the, for y'all to, you know, pass this on to your family

1015
01:04:30.480 --> 01:04:36.880
and friends is not to encourage all to, to talk to people about it.

1016
01:04:36.880 --> 01:04:39.960
I was finding people were already talking about it.

1017
01:04:39.960 --> 01:04:44.600
And what I want was, and the reason that I was creating the incentivization was simply

1018
01:04:44.600 --> 01:04:50.480
to incentivize people that if they're recommending people, I want them to join too.

1019
01:04:50.480 --> 01:04:55.440
I would like them to be part of it because it greatly helps the friends experience because

1020
01:04:55.440 --> 01:05:00.040
now people that you're already doing life with, you'll be able to talk about.

1021
01:05:00.000 --> 01:05:04.000
It's a, it's a way to invest in the relationship and it greatly helps

1022
01:05:04.000 --> 01:05:06.000
their, their journey and their experience.

1023
01:05:06.000 --> 01:05:08.000
And they should be able to move faster.

1024
01:05:08.000 --> 01:05:11.000
With their friend being present than with just me.

1025
01:05:11.000 --> 01:05:12.000
Right.

1026
01:05:12.000 --> 01:05:14.000
So anyway, that's what the whole thing of like,

1027
01:05:14.000 --> 01:05:16.000
what it was that I was trying to.

1028
01:05:17.000 --> 01:05:18.000
Right.

1029
01:05:18.000 --> 01:05:20.000
It was, I was finding people are sharing it.

1030
01:05:20.000 --> 01:05:23.000
What I was trying to incentivize people is, Hey, if your friends join.

1031
01:05:23.000 --> 01:05:27.000
How can I help their experience and offer something to y'all at the

1032
01:05:27.000 --> 01:05:30.000
same time? Like, Hey, y'all can join for free.

1033
01:05:30.000 --> 01:05:33.000
And so it will help encourage what I was hoping it would do is

1034
01:05:33.000 --> 01:05:36.000
encourage people to participate with their friends.

1035
01:05:36.000 --> 01:05:38.000
And I think that's a really important thing.

1036
01:05:38.000 --> 01:05:41.000
And I think that's a really important thing to do is to encourage

1037
01:05:41.000 --> 01:05:42.000
people to join.

1038
01:05:42.000 --> 01:05:44.000
So I just wanted to make it clear, you know, that.

1039
01:05:44.000 --> 01:05:45.000
About like what it was.

1040
01:05:45.000 --> 01:05:46.000
Oh, yeah.

1041
01:05:46.000 --> 01:05:47.000
Very clear.

1042
01:05:47.000 --> 01:05:48.000
Yeah.

1043
01:05:48.000 --> 01:05:49.000
Yeah.

1044
01:05:49.000 --> 01:05:50.000
All right.

1045
01:05:50.000 --> 01:05:51.000
Visit with you, Casey.

1046
01:05:51.000 --> 01:05:53.000
So glad that you're doing.

1047
01:05:53.000 --> 01:05:54.000
That you're doing good.

1048
01:05:54.000 --> 01:05:57.000
It has been a privilege of mine to be able to be given by the Lord,

1049
01:05:57.000 --> 01:05:59.000
the opportunity to see you from.

1050
01:05:59.000 --> 01:06:02.000
And how much you have not been living in rest and you don't know what

1051
01:06:02.000 --> 01:06:03.000
you're going to do.

1052
01:06:03.000 --> 01:06:05.000
And this is what your life is, has been like,

1053
01:06:05.000 --> 01:06:07.000
and this is what your life feels like now.

1054
01:06:07.000 --> 01:06:10.000
And then to get to see you all the way through that, that final,

1055
01:06:10.000 --> 01:06:11.000
that final surgery.

1056
01:06:12.000 --> 01:06:13.000
Yeah.

1057
01:06:13.000 --> 01:06:15.000
Oh, my word. It's been honestly privileged.

1058
01:06:15.000 --> 01:06:17.000
Greatly increased my faith.

1059
01:06:17.000 --> 01:06:20.000
So anyway, thank you so much. And I'm so excited for you.

1060
01:06:20.000 --> 01:06:21.000
Thanks Ashley.

1061
01:06:21.000 --> 01:06:22.000
So much.

1062
01:06:22.000 --> 01:06:23.000
All right.

1063
01:06:23.000 --> 01:06:24.000
See you.

1064
01:06:24.000 --> 01:06:25.000
Bye.

1065
01:06:25.000 --> 01:06:26.000
Bye.

1066
01:06:26.000 --> 01:06:27.000
Bye.

1067
01:06:27.000 --> 01:06:28.000
Bye.

1068
01:06:28.000 --> 01:06:29.000
Bye.

1069
01:06:29.000 --> 01:06:30.000
Bye.

1070
01:06:30.000 --> 01:06:31.000
Bye.

1071
01:06:31.000 --> 01:06:32.000
Bye.

1072
01:06:32.000 --> 01:06:33.000
Bye.

1073
01:06:33.000 --> 01:06:34.000
Bye.

1074
01:06:34.000 --> 01:06:35.000
Bye.

1075
01:06:35.000 --> 01:06:36.000
Bye.

1076
01:06:36.000 --> 01:06:37.000
Bye.

1077
01:06:37.000 --> 01:06:38.000
Bye.

1078
01:06:38.000 --> 01:06:39.000
Bye.

1079
01:06:39.000 --> 01:06:40.000
Bye.

1080
01:06:40.000 --> 01:06:41.000
Bye.

1081
01:06:41.000 --> 01:06:42.000
Bye.

1082
01:06:42.000 --> 01:06:43.000
Bye.

1083
01:06:43.000 --> 01:06:44.000
All right.

1084
01:06:44.000 --> 01:06:45.000
See you.

1085
01:06:45.000 --> 01:06:46.000
Okay.

1086
01:06:46.000 --> 01:06:47.000
Bye.
