Elizabeth, can you hear me all right?
Hold on a second. I'm gonna have to pop right back in because I'm on Bluetooth.
Oh, sure.
All right.
Okay.
How are you?
I'm good. I'm just wet hair. I don't usually do that, but I'm wet hair this morning. And my stand, I have like a ring light stand and it broke. So I'm like holding my phone if you don't mind.
No, I'm fine with that.
Oh, I'm sorry.
I was like, we need to get you a new stand because it slides down so it just kind of like, no matter how I tighten it, so then I'm constantly just the whole call, I'm like lifting it back up and then it droops and then I'm like lifting it back up.
It works, but not that well.
Oh, I'm sorry.
Yeah.
I'm so sorry.
I'm sorry.
It's okay.
I hope that don't be at all. I understand those, those mornings.
It sounds like you're opening your day for some, some of this. So it's probably kind of back to back and busy day. So, but it's good because I get to, I get to do what I love. So, right. Exactly.
You know, it's been.
I want to say marches when we were talking.
Like we had been, you know, talking about the possibility.
And then it was late March that we started with cope and everything thinking it's probably time to just go ahead and move into this because other things are on hold and.
Yeah, I feel like I can share this with you. Like in confidence, you're not going to, I don't know your relationship with him. How do you know him, by the way? How do you know?
Just on Facebook.
Okay.
Just because he's a Packer fan and he and I were in the same industry, so to speak, you know, we're both business coaches. So I used to be a turnaround consultant.
That's right. You said on your call, which is so interesting. Okay. So, so yeah, obviously I wouldn't go around sharing this with just anybody, but it was kind of a situation where I was coming out of.
I was coming out of full time work and then into I took a couple of marketing just part time jobs.
So I did that, but I didn't really know what to do because of some things that God pulled me away from in the, where I was at in mental health full time. And so that was a really good experience supporting people emotionally. And heard a lot of stories that, you know, my heart just goes out to, you know, from men to women to, to young ones, you know, but it was, it was not a good environment in the end.
I was not there at that place that I was at. And so I had the comfort of knowing that he had told me I'm moving you on soon because it was really painful. But then when I started marketing, it was right before COVID for two small businesses. So then they had to close.
And so I was like, Lord, you know, we had been talking about the coaching thing and he definitely told me in the fall, as far as the collective goes, which is the nonprofit, the ministry side, all connected, right.
He said, go ahead and gather the women. I'm going to do the rest. And so I just knew I was supposed to connect women as he highlighted them. And the coaching was always there, but like, I don't know if I'm ready for that.
And so it kind of mid-March is when James, you know, had been asking me some questions and probing questions and was like, you know, let's do this. And I just, he knew my situation just that at that point, we had no, I'm a single mom to two girls.
And so we had no, no real income. And I was like, I don't know how this will work. I was like, I'm just praying like, you know, like I said, I don't tell everybody this, but it was one of those things because it was like a nonprofit.
profit because the the mission was so near to his heart. We are one of the few people that he's ever
said like I want to start without like I'm offering to start coaching with you before you're able to
pay for coaching which was totally unexpected and incredible and it's been just a beautiful gift and
within that there's this part of me that now with all that's been happening lately is like
you know you feel a little bit like goodness he's done so much for me and here I'm at this
kind of stuck place of I know God's got us but like something's got to change or shift for this
to work right because I can't operate from striving and I can't just like bulldoze through
and that's not even my heart or my my message that's not even authentic to to what I do with
women or what I feel like the father's heart is for women and yet here I find myself not realizing
how fast I was going you know and of course he's a fast-paced coach he's not like
he's wonderful but he's not um one to necessarily like he could he could be on the interview with
you and be fascinated and be talking about you know all those same things with rest but I don't
know that he operates not that he doesn't operate from rest I'm sure he does flow but as a coach he's
gonna push you and he's gonna you know and that's the kind of person that he is in terms of coaching
and so I'm like now I'm at this place where I'm like Lord here he's like gifted us with this but
I can't be I can't be um you know untrue to you and what you're calling me to and you're saying
it's it's a rest and reset time which is like weird because it's our launch time um so this is
where it's so funny because the night that you shared I was like Lord just I just connect us
because I just feel like I knew I knew I didn't know it was going to come the few weeks following
but I knew like we've got it I just feel like he was connecting us that night and there was a reason
I was like I don't know how you're going to do it I'm not going to like force something right this
moment but please connect us God and so the past few weeks have been the hardest in a long long
time and um my potential partner in coaching actually like kind of just like went like this
and then when we finally had to say this is like not this is you know we tried to troubleshoot
and different things and prayed and cried and I mean I did a lot of seeking the Lord um but
in the end it was it was a really harsh like ending and a lot of lash um backlash I guess
and unexpectedly and so here I'm like trying to like launch something and then my potential
partner like falls out and then James is so sweet but he's like let's keep going come on we you know
we got this and I know that God's like let's you know we got to move forward I'm not going to stay
stuck here but there's a difference in staying stuck and letting someone like crush your your
dream and your calling versus going whoa that was disorienting and it was a lot of spiritual
attacks through it and also in the culture of the climate of I'm a I'm a feeler and a seer and so
I was already having just dreams and a happiness when it comes to trafficking and things the Lord
was showing me like where I was already in a place of travail and I I didn't that's not even a word I
normally use but it was it's just been a season of wow this is different but I just have this my
heart is breaking and the Lord has been calling me to trafficking for a while so anyways so that was
already going on and then somebody that I thought was a very dear friend and someone would be my
partner in this turned out to be completely not and then actually attacked my ministry and cursed
it and so that just causes you to go whoa like I thought I knew God I thought I knew I thought I
knew and now I don't even know what I know and it was prophesied over me by one of the girls in my
collective she had prophesied maybe like two months ago and said um yeah your ministry is gonna there's
gonna be you know a lot of women with a lot and a lot of signs wonders and miracles she said but
it's going to be from a place of rest um and she said there's the Lord saying there's not going to
be striving that he's he's just going to do this but it's not going to be anything that really
you're striving toward and so I that's obviously stuck with me and now looking at how things have
gone down lately I'm like okay Lord I feel you telling me to just completely pause even though
it's go time and I'm not quite sure how to even communicate in this moment to James because I feel
like he's been so patient like through all this drama right and I'm like okay God but I can't
deny that you're saying this so two nights ago I showed you um or share with you a bit of the word
I read that night when God was all weekend he was like rest like you can't just keep going through
this you can't just you know you know that you're you're not um you're gonna be doing it for other
people if you just push through this in a sense and don't stop to really listen and tune in and
you're not okay right now like the the fact is like I've never hit such a like I've hit walls in
my life like my life has shattered I went through a really horrible um divorce and
unexpected, like I was homeless.
I mean, all kinds of things that you wouldn't expect, but I haven't like in
my coming alive, um, and really like knowing the Lord this intimately, like
hit this place of total, like, God, I need you.
Like I waved the white flag, you know, like not in a, I'm giving up, but just
like, I can't, and he's like, okay, good.
He's like, we're, we're, we're getting somewhere.
Cause you're, you're finally surrendering really like this next level of surrender.
So I read that word about rest the other night and you were on my heart.
And I was like, I just, I'm just going to reach out.
And, and then, um, even since then, like last night in scripture and before
bed, he was leading me to, um, he's been talking about shaking of shaking
everything up and how the things that, you know, that can't be shaken
are going to be what's left.
And so he led me specifically to.
Acts four about the, you know, with the shaking and then Hebrews 12.
And was just speaking to me about that.
And it already said last time's like, oh, I won't hear or see a whole dream plot.
Sometimes I do have plots, but a lot of times I hear phrases.
I just hear him speak or he'll wake me up.
Um, speaking and that's kind of been just since last year that he's
really been doing that in the night.
And so I'm thankful.
I'm like more Lord, I've been asking for this and it's beautiful.
Um, but a lot of the message, like he woke me up, um, not that maybe a few
days ago, and it was about the shaking.
He said, um, hold on one second.
I'm going to peek at my notes.
Cause I don't want to.
Oh yeah.
And this is the morning yesterday morning after I wrote you.
Right.
So he said, do you mind all this?
This isn't weird you out.
Does it?
No, no, no, no, no.
I also believe he gets all my spirit prophecy dreams, all that good stuff.
Oh, good.
Hallelujah.
Okay.
I had a feel.
I was like, I think so.
So yesterday morning after I had written you the night before, and that word about
rest, um, from the prophetic book that I was reading, it said, he said to me
specifically, I'm doing a shaking and your efforts have nothing to do with it.
And so that was, you know, one of those phrases, but he's
talked to me about shifting.
He told me maybe like a month ago in the night, he woke me up and said
unprecedented times of shifting.
Um, and so there's all this about shifting and shaking.
And I'm like, I feel it, Lord.
Oh my goodness.
I didn't know until these few weeks.
Like, I just feel like I can't, I just can't pick back up.
There's no, um, yeah.
And then of course, there's all those things that come in.
Like, am I missing something to, how did I, and he was just comforting me last night.
Like, it's really, isn't about you doing something wrong.
He just told me to take communion, you know, before bed.
And I was like, Oh, almost like even questioning, like, do I even know how to
take communion and like, almost like everything about myself, I'm questioning,
like, do I, do I have what it takes?
Do I, do I do, am I believing right?
Like what's missing?
Like, did I do something wrong?
You know, that kind of thing.
And so he's like, you don't need anything more.
You don't need somebody to tell you.
He's like, you're listening to too many voices.
Just, just take communion because you're, you do know, you know, I was like, okay,
yeah, I don't need to know because you already did it and that's fine.
And so I did, but he was just speaking through those passages about the shaking
and about, um, how, you know, just comforting me in that, that like, I've
been wondering, yes, I know he's doing a thing and yes, I know that all these
other people that I know are feeling it and they're, they've been under spiritual,
like a heaviness or an attack and they're coming out of that the same time.
Um, but there's also so much of that, that is just, is shaking
everything that I thought I knew.
Like not when in terms of him, of course I know who he is, but in
terms of just really questioning, it's been an attack on my like character
and my identity and going like, who am I?
And did I, do I even know what he's calling me to do?
And definitely I can't just keep going with this, this sense that I have to
pause, so I'm going to pause, but what does that mean for everything that I
thought that I was pursuing in this moment with him and for him?
So that's my story in this moment, Ashley, it's just, it's just wild.
Yeah.
Well, I think it's a good story.
I think it's very precious.
I love hearing that God is talking to so many people, you know, that, so that this
message is just resonating all throughout the world of rest and they're shifting
into rest because rest is not an activity.
It's a place in the Lord from which we operate where he always provides the
increase and we just, here, we just are fathered into understanding how to govern
it, but we're not responsible for actually creating the results.
The farmer sows the seed, he goes to sleep and he wakes up and he doesn't
know how the crop comes up, but it comes up.
So I think that that's great.
I love hearing everything that the Lord is.
I'm talking to you about, I love hearing that, um, you have such relationship
with him, that you're open and, um, and, and have made yourself vulnerable
to him, that he will speak, that you seek him and that he's.
See what you are talking and all of that. That's, that's very special.
Yeah, yeah.
Oh, I'm sorry. Go ahead.
Oh no, I don't know if I started, but I, um, but I will share real quick since you asked that when when you said that part about like the seed and everything. It reminded me how much he's speaking about the sewing and the seed and the harvest and
That he said just this week as well or last week when all this was really heightened like with this this friend that was going to do coaching with me.
He woke me up and it was interesting because it was for 44 which was yeah he's been speaking a lot about for 44 and so
He had just said before that there's been all this like I'm sitting here holding this triangle that he keeps showing me like triangles are breaking off in my house of things like my girl stuff but he's speaking about
You know, even like this picture of the threes and the fours and the 12 the governmental told us a governmental
Number. I mean, in the kingdom, but then threes and fours and just, I have this like apostolic prophetic thing going on that he's teaching me about. And so I keep seeing triangles and even when it comes to threes and fours. So then he wakes me up one night and says
We're starting a movement called and my alarm goes off and I look at it and it says 812 which is four plus four is eight and then four is 12
And then the very next night he wakes me up at 444 and he says it's okay, which is in the thick of like feeling the backlash of all this like even spiritually right says it's okay.
What what you've sown in faith where you son in faith, the Lord's prepared to harvest and so
Yeah, that was last week. So it's interesting timing. They're so cool.
Yes, that's right. I love that we've said in faith, the Lord for the harvest. I think that's perfect. Yeah, that's really great. So is there anything else that you feel that I need to know about like your
How, I don't know your, your journey with the Lord or and up to this point, or I think unless you can think of something else. I still have a
Pretty good idea of, you know, where you are currently and what it is that you are. I mean, I know understand general where it is that you want to go. I don't
And yeah, now you said you talked about in ministry. So it's yours, the ministry or business or or both. Is there a ministry and a business, is it
Yeah, it's both. It's both. So the. Yeah, so it's both. I think because my heart has been, you know, just so so for ministry, whatever, you know, we use the word ministry. But so, yeah, I just
Yeah, given a lot of my, I'm sorry, someone's beeping in, but
A lot of my my time naturally, you know, to relationship building and and women, especially. And so I, I thought, you know, this is this is ministry. This makes sense to start with the collective right which was it's been a vision for a handful of years and he
Was saying, go, you know, go ahead. It's time to begin to gather these women that I'm gathering
Who are women like us that are, you know, do you have a call and a purpose and specifically, you know, a heart for women and so
So I thought, you know, I'm going to start there. But then as we went along was like, you know, and gotten to conversation with James to he's like, you know,
You know, you have to think about just how you're going to fund and how it's going to make sense time and energy wise to pour into this nonprofit ministry and you've got to have a solid
Start with, you know, something that's going to provide for your family. And then, then as we went, you know, a little further. It was like, oh, this isn't separate at all. This is
This is so connected like it's specifically the women that are called into this collective for the kingdom are all women who are
Meant to be either coaches or mentors are birthing, you know, some kind of ministry business initiative themselves and so
So it's totally connected. If that makes sense.
Like the collective like as far as
Getting it to a place where there's communication between all the women that's like clear the visions clear like we're casting all this has taken a lot of work, even so
Even though those are a lot of the same women that I'd love to work with, you know, to be able to have a conversation with them and to be able to
You know, I'm believing in because I've seen them, them, you know, being called and struggling to figure out, okay, what does this look like to
To launch whatever God's putting on my heart and all of us are sort of in that right so just we're, you know, we're all in this together.
And I think that's what's so important. And I think that's what's so important. And I think that's what's so important. And I think that's what's so important.
Thank you.
So it's also important to know and to recognize that the most powerful person and the most powerful person will be your brother.
Like I'm taking this slowly and saying I'm gonna slow down and be comfortable. It's my brother, and I need to confirm if you have one a little bit further down the road.
kind of core which is not small but it's also yeah it's also you know enough that
we can kind of have a taste of before we add in our invite women from the public
like you know invite people into it where we can sort of operate and and
James sees it as I mean that makes complete sense that's that's like your
pool of people that already you know know you love you trust you and you know
and love trust them you've already vetted them in the sense of like for
coaching and things like that not that they have to come from there but that
that's that's connected to the coaching if that makes sense and then as far as
what you asked about background like anything else you should know I think
would be important to know that even though you're hearing where I'm at right
now I think it's important to know that they're just the gist of it is that
there's been a pattern of of like I think I don't know I think I'm
definitely a helper whatever that means and so I think there's definitely a
pattern of wanting to and feel it like wanting to do so much and then losing
track of how much I'm doing and giving and you know I teach people about
boundaries but I'm still learning like healthy boundaries and myself like
coming out of a very abusive home and upbringing and then abusive marriage
like I've I'm definitely I'm not like who am I God I'm so I feel so
unqualified here like because he's doing so much in my life but I believe for so
long I need to wait till I'm more put together because I really have this same
struggle still with needing more healing still layers of healing from the trauma
and the things that I've walked through and then the boundaries and like the
perfectionism people-pleasing like he's trying to break that off for good dear
man right but that just is good for you to know that that's been a pattern
of trying to and genuinely wanting to make everybody happy at my own expense
yeah yeah yeah well that's that's good and it's very insightful to really to
understand you know because God desires us to under to know that we are in such
freedom where we don't have to live and operate like that we all know it in our
head but to actually but it's life-changing to understand to know we
actually don't live in a cage we think we do and that's why our life reflects
it because if we think we're in a cage we're gonna act like it so it's not that
oh well we can look at our life and think oh we'll see it's so evident by
our life that I am in a cage no we act like what we believe but actually the
cage doesn't even exist so we can give ourselves permission to stop acting like
it so it's very backwards to what we think that this situation is in other
words that God's always moving the greater and greater measures of freedom
so I've seen that picture of even like with with skin you know how the shedding
of like snakes shed their skin and other other reptiles but but that it's
actually like my friend actually showed me because she and her husband are into
they like rescue animals and they work with reptiles and all kinds of things
but they're pastors too well anyways she showed me a perfect snake skin and how
like it sheds it but it's in perfect shape like it's it's there's no holes
there's no tears there's no nothing but the point is is that I've seen visions
of that of like you shed the skin but then you're still in it even though you
shed it like I don't know if that's even possible but almost like I see it
floating around floating around you or you think you're still on the skin but
you've actually been completely freed from that in so the new eyes and he's
been speaking a lot about that so that makes sense to me a lot of the cage
thing too and the taking flight or you know the butterfly all those that
imagery is so relevant yeah oh I love how you and mentioned that and you know
it's like the you're seeing a picture of the old man we think we're living in
but like you know you said the old man you're not under any obligation to act
like him anymore then you are a man but you think you're the old man that's why
you act like it you know Paul's I was talking about like the old man it's
really good I love that I've never heard about it related to a snake skin and I
love how you're seeing that image so yeah anything else before I answer some
questions I'd love to hear from you I think that's I've gotten a lot out and
you've allowed me to just share with no plan you know what what's what what's
here right now so yeah that's how I get to know people the best is just to be
able to ask them and just give them free reign said okay so what would you like
to tell me because it's so it reveals so much to me about what it is that they
find important yeah you know your entire life that they could tell me what what
you know
They're like, oh, I wanted to know this.
And I think that this is important to the conversation that that's, yes, that makes
the most sense.
You're going to get, get to the punch, right?
With that.
Yeah, I love it.
Yeah.
Get to actually know the person, which is the whole point.
So the story, it's the person and so what they find important about their story.
So I am good on time, but I wanted to make sure that you were good on time.
I am.
I have, um, I kind of just said until 10, but I didn't, I don't expect you to be with
me that long, but had just in my, in my mind.
So I'm good.
Yeah.
Okay.
All right.
Good.
Well, um, okay.
So, um, all right.
So the rest intensive, uh, I'll just talk about what it exactly is and then we can get
into like how it works.
So what it is is obviously, you know, helping us be able to actually shift into rest.
So the, what is on my heart with the words put on my heart is actually not to focus on
learning or what I always refer to as unlearning we're unlearning the things that we've learned
in life.
We're unlearning all of those laws and we're actually moving because there's nothing wrong
with us that needs to change.
God doesn't create anything corrupted.
He doesn't create anything that's imperfect.
We've added in all of these lies over the years, ever since we were a tiny baby, believing
I'm not safe.
I can't, you know, no one wants to collaborate to build a world with me.
I'm abandoned.
I'm alone.
And we project that onto the Lord, et cetera, and we add in all of these lies.
So, so I really, whenever I focus in, when I talk in my teachings, I'm always focusing
on unlearning, not learning something new.
Um, and, but even though I, I, even though my teachings, you know, I, I approach it from
that perspective, my focus for the intensive is actually not providing people with more
information and going through this process of learning or unlearning.
It's actually to help someone shift.
My heart is to actually see someone change, actually walk them through, give them the
opportunity to actually transform as opposed to getting more information and, Oh, I feel
better because I now know things I didn't know, or I didn't think about or whatever,
but it makes this kind of like how we can walk out of church.
We feel so much better, but then we walk out and our lives aren't reflecting it.
What's on my heart is to actually help people reflect it in their lives.
And in every single person that is, that I've worked with, um, you know, has changed in,
in one form or another.
I, after the fact, after I reached out to you, I caught your, some of your testimonials
and I was like, I'm seeing that pattern.
So that's, that's perfect.
That's great.
Yeah.
Yes.
And what's really funny about, about all of those testimonials, uh, is, is I don't know
if you saw that post where, um, I, I posted, uh, the quote from Mary Magdalene from the
chosen.
Yeah.
I did.
Yeah.
It says, you know, um, I used to be one way now I'm different and the thing that happened
in between was him because all of that have had a very difficult time.
This, this, the shift is so core deep that when we all try to describe it, we're like,
I don't know, I have the majority of people that I get on calls with and either they come
to me because I've done an interview and so someone, if they've heard me on an interview
or they, uh, a client of mine has referred them.
Sometimes they all come to me, every single person having an idea of what they think may
be possibly the rest of the words about, but they're not sure.
And this is after having listened to people.
So what is, what is the reason that people reach out to me is that what they've noticed
is a changed life.
They noticed something in the spirit when I speak, their spirit is responding because
you know, they're like, wait a minute, that sounds familiar, you know, with their friend
and they see how their friend used to be in there to see how their friend is now.
And they'll tell me that that's why they, that they contacted me.
They're like, you know, my friend has changed, but how do we describe this?
Like what's happened?
It's really funny.
It's like, you don't have words for it, but no, I see that that's the most important thing
is that transformation.
I mean, to not, and I relate to the deconstructed deconstruction, or if you're saying unbecoming
or unlearning too, even though that's not the ultimate, like we're saying that's part
of becoming is to unbecome, you know, but I love the transformation thing.
It's, it's, it's, and with shifting, you're using this word.
And literally I went back through notes when I read those two passages last night and God
just had me look up all my notes that had shaken or shift in it.
So like, you're just saying shift, shift, shift.
And I'm like, yes, I have it all throughout my note of the spring is like, shift, shift.
Shifting. He's shifting things. He's shifting, which is great. I know. I noticed that when you were talking. It's like, because that's how I always talk about this is let people know. Hey, look,
What we're doing is we're shifting and then it was hearing you talk about it. And most people, you know, I get on the call. And that's not the word they use. And you've used it several times. It's like she understands, you know, the Lord's already talking to her. I'm ready. Yes, yes.
So anyway, what
The first thing that I focus on it is in the intensive is I actually help us if we cannot understand and believe not understand that we cannot believe and own that we are loved by God, then we can't receive the rest of it because the rest of it. It's
God desires. Everything is based off of like the freedom that we live in and whatever is based on on how much God loves us and not just how much, but how he loves us and allowing ourselves to be loved. We all know it. We all can preach to everybody else. We can all preach to ourselves. We all can say, Oh, I know that he loves me and whatever.
But if our lives are not reflecting what God says that our lives should reflect in freedom as his sons, it means we don't believe that we're loved. So I help us actually shift so that we
Give people an opportunity to get with their Lord and and and learn to see his love in a different way. So I approached love from a bit of a different way than we were used to actually interacting with him.
And so I do that first in order to prepare us to be able to receive the rest of everything from the Lord, because
Everything in his character, he subjects he subjects to his love, including his power. So any of the freedom that we move into any of that is always subject to his love. So let's start with that.
Then I move into how to actually shift into rest. Like, in other words, like, how do you practically do it, then I then I focus on
The, you know, the difference between striving versus operating and rest and the choice that Adam and Eve made and the choice that we make every day versus how to actually live in a place of rest, then
I go through and
The, the spirit, the soul in the body and how we can offer how we operate different in each differently in each of those realms and and how to recognize when I'm operating in the body versus operating in the soul, meaning I'm operating in carnality and God's like, no, no, that's not who you are your spirit. So this is this is the graph. I use a lot. So it's very, very messy. But, um, so basically
We are spirit. We have a soul. We're in a body. But yes, so often we believe that we're sold how we're acting, what it is that we're manifesting
We believe that soul or, you know, we believe we're in an even more restricted form. And we believe that we're body and that we have a soul and really that it's we are spirit. And so we
Understand when we're operating and record be able to recognize in a moment in an environment where we are. We're confused. We're questioning things were doubting things were struggling, whatever.
To understand, okay, where am I operating operating on my soul, my body or my spirit so that we understand, okay, you can identify this is where I am. But God says that I should be that I'm actually somewhere else. So I need to align my body with my spirit.
And I need to align into and agree with him on it. So anyway, so again, it's very holistic like totally holistic when it comes to that I've he's been saying for years. I mean,
You know, in some ways, it's like, well, then why don't you have this figured out by now but no but he's been speaking about, you know, spirit, spirit, soul, body like that. We're all gonna, you know, they're all connected and all that in so many ways for the past several years. And so, and even just coming out of
A business with my ex husband was is chiropractic and nutrition and family wellness. And so really just the things that I was learning with my, you know, my girls being young to about
About health, which again because you have all these these wounds. Sometimes it doesn't come as fast as far as like the the transformation or the
The understanding that really reflects in your life and the way you live in your thoughts, but it has been a process, but it's like, at least I know there's no way that we're not connected and we're not spirit first
And that even seeing how he created our bodies and everything to align with this this create, you know, creation of the
Yeah, the way that he made us to function and all all those arenas and realms, if you will. So
That's good. That's really that aligns with with me is what I'm saying, like, and I definitely feel like with that whatever I do. I'm like, I have to be somebody has to understand that basic like holistic
Viewpoint that it's not separate compartmentalized correct. Yes. Yeah, correct. Yeah. Good, good. Yes. Absolutely. Very holistic. Yeah, I love. I love that approach the Lord just had to
And look really, I don't know. Is it will it's something he's always had on my heart, but I didn't fully understand it. And I still don't, you know, because we for now we see through a glass darkly in so many areas.
And he's, and he's, and he's I'm shedding light so that we begin to see him more and more face to face. Now, we don't have to wait until death to see it. We're already starting to see more face to face, but I have to acknowledge and admit there's still areas in which I'm only seeing, you know, art in three last year, but that's how I memorize scripture was in the King James.
Pull them off the top of my head. Otherwise,
But anyway, so I do that. And then the last half is about
The teachings. Oh, by the way, what I'm talking about is I have a core set of teachings that someone goes through their pre reported they were they were actually just lives Facebook lives that I did.
And then I just those with my first group and then I've just taken those and I just say those as my core teachings. So that's what I'm saying when I'm talking about like first half second half.
So the second half of those core teachings is, and I talked about how to actually live in rest in real life circumstances and yeah you know how to form and and I do it, talking about business specific terms like
Like if you look at the sessions, they all have that they all say business dash, you know, for me and rest business dash operating in the spirit business dash, you know,
Spiritual leadership, whatever. However, what I always tell people. So in other words, the whole point is how to actually live in rest, like how to actually do it because remember my whole
My heart is to help someone actually do this in real life, not right. Oh, is that a good theory. And oh yeah, we need to understand the rest. Now, how do we do it. I'm standing at the kitchen sink. My husband just said something to me. He walked off. I'm not in rest. How do I shift. What do I
Reconcile with him because he's in a meeting and I can't get ahold of him. In other words, there's no I there's nothing on the outside that can that can fix the problem for me. I have to
Fix it. In other words, I am to God says, yeah, it has to be internal because God, of course, says that we're enslaved or we believe that we're enslaved on the inside. It's not the outside that enslaves is it's the inside.
So anyway, so how to actually apply it and in various areas of life, you know how to have spiritual leader for other people and even peers.
Or in business, whatever. But even though I use business specific terms I tell everyone these things that I mentioned.
Can be applied to literally every area of life because we operate in business, the exact same way that we operate in our marriage, the exact same way that we all operate when we're when we're parenting children, same way that we operate and understanding our finances and and
And stewarding all of that we apply spirit in the exact same way and all of the in all of the areas.
The different. The thing is that the world and I obviously go much more into this and teaching, but I'm just trying to trying to give a very general idea.
Because we apply things in all of these various areas and it manifests once it goes through those filters of business or relationships or finances, it manifests looking differently in the earth.
The world looks at it and thought the world mean like even us, you know, because Adam and Eve were
The, the output looks different. The outcome looks different because it's gone through a I'm sorry, I'm getting notes and then I can't
The, the output looks different because it's gone through a
And God provides the increase we just, you know, we just governed it and we just operate according to our identity and who it is.
And so
So,
I just wanted to mention that even though I talk in business specific terms in that in the lot in as far as like the application of how to live in rest is a very, very important thing.
I always tell people, and even in the sessions, I'll stop periodically and I'll say, Hey, by the way, in relationships. This is how it would manifest in your parenting. This is how it will manifest in finances.
This is how it will manifest.
And so, I just wanted to mention that even though I talk in business specific terms in that in the lot in as far as like the application of how to live in rest is a very, very important thing.
I always tell people, and even in the sessions. I'll stop periodically and I'll say, Hey, by the way, in relationships. This is how it would manifest in your parenting. This is how it will manifest in finances.
but constantly giving people,
reminding us of a holistic approach.
Again, I was gonna say holistic, that was the word.
That is, it's holistic, that's right.
There was something else I was gonna say about that.
Well, I don't remember.
Sorry, I thought it was important.
I thought, oh, this will help her,
help give it an additional idea as well,
but I didn't remember what it was.
Oh, well, you know, if the Lord finds it important,
remind me.
So that's what it is that I cover,
and the, oh, that's what it was I was gonna say.
So people get this understanding so early on
about how foundational this is,
that even when people come to me
because they want,
because they have a very business-specific reason,
they're like, oh, this is gonna help fix my business.
They quickly scrap that.
I mean, not completely,
but they very quickly leave that,
and I'm serious, at least 80% of the questions
that are brought up to me during this time
are non-business related.
So they start asking the question about,
okay, well, how do I apply it here,
and how do I apply it here?
Because they understand, wait, this is so foundational.
This is the core and the root of how it is a process.
I just thought of roots, yes, yes, roots.
What?
I said, I just thought the word roots
like as you were talking.
Yeah, exactly.
So that's what it was that I was gonna mention.
So that is the rest intensive.
That is what it is about.
It is not, rest, again, is not an activity.
It's just a place.
It's understanding who it is that we are in the Lord,
understanding our identity and how to operate,
because our identity is inside of the Lord,
which is inside of rest.
And so our identity is in a place of rest.
And so what is our identity,
and then how to operate from that place,
and anyway, in all areas of our life, business, whatever.
So do you have any questions about that
before I get into how the program actually works
and how to be a part of it, what the requirements are?
Yeah.
Yeah, I don't think so.
It all makes a lot of sense.
Yeah, you've done a great job explaining.
Oh, good, thank you, appreciate it.
That's good.
It's good feedback to hear,
because sometimes I don't know how this comes across.
Makes sense.
So as far as people actually being part of it,
so the only thing that I require on my side
in order to invite someone in
is I just have to know how serious that they are.
If they have chosen to own their relationship with the Lord,
as opposed to being one of those people
that doesn't understand how to take ownership
of their own lives
and ownership of their own relationship with the Lord,
and they want somebody to fix them,
like, I'm sorry, I can't do that.
So if someone has owned their relationship with the Lord
and they are very serious about following the Lord,
hearing his revelation, and stepping into that,
that is all that I need to know
in order to be willing to invest in them,
to invite them into the group,
because I protect the community
with people who are serious
about their relationship with the Lord.
And it allows people in the community to be very vulnerable,
and that's what they've chosen.
I've actually been very surprised
about how vulnerable people have been willing to be,
because they realized with the women
who happen to be in there,
because I expect men to come at some point,
but all of the men that have reached out to me
over the past several months,
none of them have committed,
but they repeatedly still reach out to me.
But they haven't committed yet,
and it's only the women
who've actually gone all the way through and committed.
And it is a challenge.
It's a challenge for anyone,
but even a man, because we all, as men and women,
have our tendencies and our stereotypical tendencies
to struggle in certain areas,
and that whole rest idea is difficult
for a man to grab ahold of,
or I have, where, because we think they have,
they're taught, and it's so ingrained in men,
to view life in the perspective of what it,
that my identity is based on what it is I do.
So they don't understand,
well, you don't have to stop doing anything, but.
But they like the idea and their spirit response so much that they get, that they've repeatedly,
they repeatedly watch my, watch my stuff on my Facebook page, repeatedly reach out to
me, keep the connection up and whatever they've struggled to commit thus far.
More of a process process, but yeah, you said the women are pretty vulnerable.
That's awesome.
That's how it should be.
I mean, that's what you want.
Yeah, exactly.
So, and they're willing to be open because they're, and just be honest, like, here's
what I'm struggling with and God is meeting me there.
In other words, it's everything that God talks about and everything that he presents to us
is, is, is solid and can be stood on.
It's not, it's, it's not non-substantial.
It's very substantial.
They can handle anything, not weak.
So anyway, so like what I was saying, the only thing that I require is, is to know,
you know, I, cause I'm protected, not just for the community, but my time and who, where
I'm going to invest it.
I want it in people that are actually really serious so that I'm like, okay, so you, this
is what you want to do in your relationship with Lord.
If you would like, I'm honored to partner with you, you know, on the journey, but I
can't do it.
I can't fix it.
I can't, whatever.
I don't even hold people accountable.
I went from being a business consultant, very extreme situation where I put pressure to
now, like, I don't even know because it has to be their relationship with the Lord, but
I offer myself for people to reach out to, you know, if, if they, if they want a bit
of support, encouragement, et cetera, long journey, anyways, that's all that I require.
So the, but the four, uh, the four areas that I tell people that I, that I also require
our commitment that are for the other person's benefit.
So even once somebody gets into the program, I don't even hold them accountable to keeping
those commitments.
And I'm being perfectly honest about that perfectly transparent, but in the beginning
I tell people, okay, in order to, you know, to get into the, into an intensive, uh, one
of my four requirements are for the benefit of the person to help them, give them an opportunity
to shift faster.
That's the whole point of the commitment is to kind of give our soul this indication of,
okay, this is how serious I am, but I'm willing to commit to, um, and, uh, so the first three
are the two things that we struggle to, that our soul typically is tied to is a time and
money.
So those are the two commitments that I require.
So the time there's three time commitment and one, and the first one is that someone
would write three, uh, three Facebook posts a week for the first four weeks, because that's
how long the intensive is.
Oh, by the way, I forgot to mention.
So once someone is in the intensive, they're in and they can stay in the community and
the past, the four weeks, uh, no one's wanted to leave yet.
They all still participate.
We're, we're a community kind of, kind of like you're collective.
You just stay in the group and all of that, but the first four weeks are more intensive
and they have, uh, that's, those are the people that I give first priority of my time to for
like private sessions, et cetera.
So that's the difference between the two.
So the, in the first four weeks, uh, three times a week, um, I, uh, I, uh, require that
they commit to writing three Facebook posts a week and they do not have to be a long,
they could be three sentences.
Most of the time people write, you know, do a whole, do a live or they'll do a, um, or
they'll write, you know, a longer post, but that's just up to them.
And it's to give someone the opportunity to engage with their shifting, to force them
to articulate what it is that they're processing with the Lord, as opposed to, well, it's just
a journal.
And I'm just kind of thinking in my mind is all over the place, give them something to
kind of stop and sink their teeth into and articulate, okay, what, what really is going
on here?
What is the Lord showing?
Oh, well, I just watched the session session two the other day.
And so I was hearing this and then all of a sudden God showed me this Bible verse in
my, in my quiet time today.
And I've never read the Bible verse from that perspective before.
And all my goodness, the Lord suddenly showed me that it's totally different than the way
I always thought it meant.
That kind of thing.
Yes.
But that is like a form of accountability without you having to, you know, that you're, you're
saying from the beginning, essentially you're giving us accountability, um, and ownership
and a way to keep ourselves accountable.
Um, exactly.
Without you having to do that throughout.
Yes, exactly.
And, uh, then the other thing we, is.
But the second one is, I have group sessions
every Thursday night from, what time zone are you in?
I don't remember.
I'm central, so it showed me.
I'm guessing you're eastern, is that right?
In Texas?
No, I'm in central as well.
I'm in Dallas, where are you?
Oh, really?
I'm in central Illinois, so I'm central.
Okay, okay, so for you, it would be at eight o'clock.
Eight o'clock, okay.
Yeah, eight o'clock, at eight to nine p.m. Thursday nights.
And so, I ask that people commit to
attending three out of the four group sessions.
And I give that a little bit of wiggle room of a week,
just in case, because if that is,
see, the Facebook post can be done at any time.
But those group sessions,
those are set times every Thursday.
And so, somebody's likely to not be able to do
those sessions.
Yes, that's so funny.
I just had four Zooms for the collective,
and I specifically asked them to be there
for three out of the four of the Zooms
for the same reasons.
Yeah, there you go, yeah, see?
And if you need a bit of,
if people need a bit of wiggle room,
in order to make sure, I have it so late,
because so many are moms,
and they need to get the kids in bed.
But, anyway, I couldn't accommodate everyone,
but I was trying to figure out a time
that doesn't make it too late,
but it makes it enough where,
like, there's special people in different times.
I've tried for so long, I get it,
like, so many times,
to try to get 50 women on a call together.
I mean, as many as possible.
I mean, that's, it's like,
I think that that's probably the perfect time
in terms of, if you can get everybody
in the same time zone-ish,
which we have women from Australia
and other countries in Germany,
and that can be tricky, you know, even trickier,
but I think that eight o'clock time is pretty ideal.
Yeah.
Like, from what I'm narrowed to, so.
Yeah, it means it's nine o'clock
for those in the Eastern time zone,
but I noticed that when I was doing it,
when I did it an hour earlier,
or even 30 minutes earlier,
certain people were still struggling
to get their kids in bed by that time,
so I had to make it a bit later.
So far, it seems to work,
but every now and then, you know,
some people will be a bit late to the Zoom
because they're trying to get their kid to bed.
Do you mind me asking, if you have children,
it's okay either way, or you don't have to dance?
I mean, it's fun.
No, I'm not married yet, and so I don't have children.
No.
Yeah, awesome, yeah.
Not that it totally matters, I'm just curious, so.
No, no, that's perfectly fine.
I don't mind personal questions.
I don't mind people knowing how old I am.
I'm 36 years old.
That's never bothered me.
I like, I like-
Awesome.
I'm 35, so, yeah, I'm right there with you.
Oh, so we're just right there, right there.
So, 84 and 85, we're good years.
Okay, so then the third,
oh, by the way, the group Q&A,
the group community session, the Zoom call,
it's a Q&A, so we just get on there for an hour,
and people ask me questions, and I answer,
and people really enjoy them.
I mean, we get on, and we have fun, and we laugh,
and I ask very serious questions,
and people like the community aspect,
because they've gotten to kind of know each other
through the post, and now they get to interact,
and they become friends.
They follow each other on Facebook,
and so it's really nice to get together on Zoom.
And every now and then, we'll go really long,
and just because, for anybody who wants to,
just because people are visiting.
Yeah, but that is a Zoom thing.
You're able to see people, right?
Like you do it over Zoom with the video option, okay.
Correct, yeah.
And then the third time commitment is,
oh, is for them to schedule a one-hour,
one-on-one private session with me
for each of the four weeks.
So that would be four private sessions with me.
And then, of course, I obviously encourage people
to reach out to me either by Marco Polo,
if you're familiar with Marco Polo.
Yep.
I love when people reach out to me
by Marco Polo versus anyone else.
Okay, Marco Polo girl.
I get to meet people.
I get to see people in their videos and all that.
But there's that, or Facebook Messenger,
or whatever, if in between times,
when they're like, hey, Ashley, I just went into this,
how do I do this?
In other words, I remember my heart is real-time shifting.
I don't need that in the moment.
And then I just get back to them as soon as I can
in the middle of client calls and whatever,
but the thing is that I do encourage that as well.
So it's not like, oh, well,
the only touch point is private session.
No, people can ask me questions in the group
and I answer them there.
They can add private messaging, whatever.
And then the fourth one is the monetary commitment.
Oh, by the way, it is.
is I see it is nine 59. Are you, I don't know what you had at 10. Are you okay?
Yeah, I'm okay.
So, uh, the last thing is, is the monetary commitment. So what this is is a,
um, I use it cause again, I don't need it.
The Lord provides for me and all that I require is that someone be serious and
then I'm like, okay, yes, you're absolutely welcome to come in. I, I,
I'd love to invest in you and all of that good stuff.
So the monetary commitment again, like all of the time commitments,
it is for the person who would be coming in and just taking this journey with
the Lord.
And the way that I recommend that people approach it is as I'm telling the Lord
it's kind of, it's a gesture to the Lord saying, okay, Lord,
my soul is tied to money and you know how much it is versus how little it is.
And whatever it is, I feel that you're calling it to, uh,
to learn some things from you and that you want me to,
you want as part of my journey for me to join this rest intensive. So Lord,
I don't know what it is that you're going to reveal to me this month. Uh,
forget what Ashley teaches in the, in the, in the group.
I don't know what you're going to reveal to me this month,
but I'm committing to you that I am going to follow you in it.
That not only am I going to believe you have faith,
I'm going to actually act on that faith. So whatever you reveal to me,
I'm going to follow you into it. I'm going to shift. Um,
and I'm doing,
and I'm committing this to you Lord before I even know what it is you're going to
ask of me. And so that monetary commitment, again,
is just a tool for our soul. There's nothing magical. We're not paying the Lord.
He'll shift us anyway. That doesn't matter.
The monetary commitment is not for the Lord and it's not for me.
It's for a person's soul to kind of give them a bit of leverage of, Hey,
I'm going to, I'm telling my soul in this commitment to the Lord,
this is how serious I am.
And so I recommend that people get with the Lord and just ask Lord, okay, Lord,
how much, um, should that be? You know, how much should I,
uh, what would, what is on my heart in my decision with the Lord, you know,
and, um, when, with the father's heart, my heart, with the father's heart,
what monetary gesture do I want to make to my soul in my commitment to the Lord?
By the way, I'm just letting you know, I'm very serious.
And this is a gesture to let my, to remind myself and remind my soul,
this is how serious that I am. And it could be a dollar. It could be 50 cents.
It doesn't matter. Uh, cause again, it's not for me. It's for the person.
I've had people say, uh, I've had people curious about that.
I'm just like, I'm so curious about that. That's fascinating. I love it.
I'm reading a book called, um, I'm reading a book by Gary to see,
which is about sowing and reaping and a financial, um,
it's like a financial blueprint that I've been praying, you know,
praying through just asking God for a kingdom, you know,
financial solutions and just, um, something outside of Dave Ramsey, you know,
like I just never resonated with me. Um,
but something that's really like kingdom principles, um,
and he's all about sowing and reaping. So I'm curious, but I,
but this is so foreign to me, you know, to what you're talking about. I mean,
not totally it's, but it's new to me. Like, uh, how, how do you,
how do you say that? How do you think that? How was that? I don't know.
It's so different.
Yeah. So this is actually even different and you'll, you'll, uh, you know,
I talked about this more in the group, but, uh, or more in the intensive,
but it's actually different than sowing and reaping because knowing and reaping
that there's nothing wrong with sowing and reaping.
It's a spiritual principle that sowing reaping happens in the soul.
But what I'm talking about is,
is learning to start doing some things from the spirit where yes, that this is,
well, you know, I, how would I read this? I suppose, you know, it is,
I take that back.
I suppose it is more like sowing and reaping because it's what we understand
and our souls attached to it.
So it's something that it is that we're,
that we're doing because we it's like, we understand it.
We've got some connection with it. Um, in the spirit,
we no longer have connection to many. Um, and that's what we shift into.
So yeah, I hadn't really, um, uh,
had to had a word at like that before because no one's ever asked me about
sowing and reaping, you know, at the time,
they always ask me about that once they get in,
they're very fascinated by sowing and reaping once they get in.
And so I have a few, uh,
I have several sessions in which I address sowing and reaping and how that
works. But anyway, um, but yeah, so, um,
so I guess it is actually sowing and reaping.
And then I talk about how to shift out of that later where we use sowing and
reaping, but it doesn't use us. Um, so, but yeah,
that is the monetary commitment. So it could be, like I said,
it could be a dollar. It doesn't matter. I've had people pay, uh,
people choose to the monetary commitment that they make, um,
to be a 4,000.
how to make it 700, 1,000, 300.
They've made all, people are all over the board on this.
So it's just between them and the board.
And like I said, those are just some of the amounts
and it could be a dollar.
So it's all very, very unique
and to each individual person.
So that's the point of it.
That's really-
Yeah, I'm curious.
I want to learn more about that.
Just even that part, like, because my heart is so to,
you know, to operate from that place of just complete,
I mean, obviously rest, we're talking about rest,
but like relying on him and even like,
I feel like that's why my heart has been like,
I just feel called to ministry for all these years
because I want even business, like to never,
like, I don't even want the women that I work with
to feel that, yeah, that, you know,
the things that can come along with a typical way of doing,
you know, pricing and things.
Like, I don't, I don't know.
I just really, it just doesn't seem to resonate.
So I'm curious as we go along,
like what the Lord might show me that I could pass on
in that because that's really like my heart is like,
I just really truly want to see women transformed
by his love.
And I don't want anything to tamper with that
or to, you know, to hold them back from that financially.
And I also would love for them to learn these principles
that I'm in the middle of learning
and I'm sure I'm gonna keep learning
about not having that poverty mindset
and about like how he provides
and about just really looking to him as our source.
So I'm excited.
That's really, really neat.
And special and totally different.
And wow, just bless you.
Like, I love that you're doing that
and that I'm just excited to like learn
because that is so rare,
but it's like what my heart says is the right thing,
you know, the right approach,
but I don't know anybody else that does that.
So.
Well, I don't either.
And, you know, as a turnaround business consultant,
this flies in the face of everything that I believed
and so to speak,
and everything that I taught other people.
And so the Lord had to shift me into a place of rest
in which I, and from that place,
he taught me how to structure my business
because everything that you were talking about,
you know, like the whole money thing
and the exact amount and all that,
it did not resonate with me.
It didn't.
Something was wrong.
And my business, so to speak in business,
took off after I changed the model, just took off.
And I have this, you know, when you know something deep down
you just know.
Yeah.
Like I have had that sense that there's,
like I keep wanting to find a way
to do ministry business from that place.
And I'm like, does this exist?
Like, I know, you know, this is so rare,
but I know that, you know,
here's how we kind of look at finances.
And I know obviously there's something to, you know,
having a financial commitment to something.
And I get that principle,
even when it comes to like coaching or, you know,
with James or great people that, you know,
are thinking, you know, it brings the value,
but then there's just something in me that's like,
I just want to completely be able to trust him to provide.
And I don't, I don't feel like this is going to allow that.
And, but on both sides, my end and the other, you know,
the women that he's drawing, you know, into this,
because again, in the end,
I don't know a better word than ministry.
It does feel like it's his thing.
It's his heart.
I don't, nothing that I even have here is
because it's all just his story and his work in my life.
So it just feels funny to try to price it
and sell it like that,
when that seems to go against something inside of me.
Yeah, correct.
That's wonderful.
And, you know, just like Jesus told Peter,
you know, everything that you were saying,
the only way that you can know that is by the spirit.
The only way that you can know that is from the father.
It's important to,
that's one of the things that we talked about
in Rest Intensive,
is to show us how we are encouraged by the Lord
to trust ourselves
and to not see things from an old covenant mindset
in which we preach that the heart was to people
above all things.
That is absolutely not true.
Yeah.
So we're in that, we're in the new covenant.
We're under the new man.
We've never been the old man.
And anyways, talk about all of that,
but that's wonderful.
And, you know, I have the same,
I have the same stirring in my,
Spirit and the same frustration.
And I think I mentioned this.
Oh yeah.
I mentioned this in the interview with James.
Uh, where he asked, so, so how did all of this come about?
And I said, well, I said I was in business and things were, and I couldn't
operate the way that in my spirit, I knew that business should be able to operate,
but I couldn't ever put into, I couldn't put certain things into practice.
I could put certain things into practice, but other ones I couldn't because not
only was I not hearing anybody else talking about them, so I was kind of
struggling to understand for the Lord, okay, Lord, this is in my spirit, but I
don't know how to actually bring it out.
And the other thing is I, it's sometimes when I felt that I knew how to do it, I
couldn't actually do it because I didn't have, I didn't have the permission to go
ahead and the authority because it wasn't my business, but there was something in
me that knew everything, you know, that you're talking about where you're like,
I know it doesn't have to be like this.
My spirit knows it, but I've never, I don't exactly know what it looks like in
real life and I don't know what it would, um, uh, I don't, I, no one else is
talking about it anyway.
Yes.
Yeah.
So I understand.
Anyway, um, uh, all, so you are welcome to, um, if you are interested, you're
welcome to just, you know, think about it or pray about it or whatever you want.
There's no time pressure or anything because it's open ended.
It's not, it's not like I have this launch at the beginning of the month or
anything.
Um, you just join whenever I had to join, I had a lady join last night.
Um, and then, uh, you, uh, just let me know, Hey, you know, if you are
interested, just say, Hey, you know, I'm interested.
And then I would send you my, uh, my PayPal.
I'm interested.
I said, I'm interested.
Okay.
My PayPal information.
And then you can just make your monetary gesture, whatever it is.
It could be 50 cents.
It doesn't matter.
Um, and then, uh, once you make that with the Lord, well, then you just tell me,
okay, you know, I've already, I've made it.
And then I, I use that as kind of my indication that, okay, they've made their
step like, Hey, yes, this is what I want to do as opposed to just verbal, Hey,
you know, I'm in it's okay.
They've made their step.
And I send them a Facebook invite and with, and then with all of the information
about how they can, you know, just jump in the group and then where it is that
they can go to, to find where all of the series are, it's all very simple.
Um, and I just tried it, but I also try to pack a lot of it, uh, what do you,
what do you call it?
A lot of resources and stuff in there.
Um, like I have got the community Q and A's that are recorded and you can watch
those and then people, um, I asked that the first Facebook post that someone
makes is actually an, uh, an intro, uh, just an intro video about themselves.
So someone can go into the pot post, popular posts, topics or whatever, and
click on member intros, and then they get to see the other member intros that
they've made, the lives that they've made.
And so you get to see the other members and what they're like, and then you make
your own so that someone can get to know you.
Right.
Totally.
Right.
So, yeah, I love that.
I love that.
All totally aligns.
Um, but that's it.
Yes.
Okay.
There's so much to like be excited about and to think about.
Um, if I could just ask, like just from the beginning that you would consider
just praying for me and the girls and like what, what this means, does that
make sense?
Because I'm totally looking to the Lord to like, even know what steps to take
right now in, in, in business ministry.
I mean, I always am, but like in this moment, I feel like there's like this
halt and I also feel like I have James here trying to encourage me on, and
obviously I want to like honor him and all that he's done, but also be true to
like the Lord first.
And I'm not sure how, like, I can't, I don't feel like in this moment that I
can drive forward because he's doing something, but that causes you to feel
like you're in a, um, like everything's just kind of standing still in a sense.
Um, does that make sense?
And so there's things in the works, like whether it comes to, to, to James and
the coaching there or to, um, like the women that are sort of like on the edge,
like about to launch, I'm trying to honor what I've like where we're at, but
still pause because the Lord's saying pause.
And I don't know for how long he's saying that.
So if you pray like into that with me, just, um, cause I feel like it's, it's,
it's all happening at once and it makes complete sense, but it has.
been a total stop and now it's like a rest and reset.
But I don't know what he's doing right here
with all that's already in the works
and the people, I guess.
And I feel like I'm supposed to do this with you
and yet I don't know, does that mean,
does that mean that he wants me to enter this
and just kind of tread lightly as step by step
and day by day in what I'm doing already?
Or does that mean I need to like pause from all of that
while I do this with you?
I'm not sure yet.
Oh no, sorry, I think that it's my phone,
it says it's dying.
Oh, that's okay, that's okay.
There we go.
And now my ring light is gone, so.
Okay, so two things to think about and let's see.
Yeah, is that rest is not an activity.
It's strictly that we understand that the result
is not up to us, it's up to the Lord.
And, but then, you know, because that's the whole thing
about rest is it's just, it's doing activities,
but it's not striving because the responsibility
is not on me to create the results.
It's up to the Lord.
I just enjoy being in relationship with Him
and doing something with Him
because it's fun doing things with God.
But what it is that I'm doing with God
is not creating the result, He is.
It would totally release the pressure off of the activity.
And then I just enjoy it.
And I'm not pressured to making decisions.
I'm not pressured like, and oh my goodness,
you know, is this the right thing?
Is this the wrong thing?
Is this gonna mess it up or whatever?
Yeah.
And then the other thing is that I lost it.
Where was I?
Oh, it is, it's also that it's kind of piggybacking
on what I said, that God is responsible for the results.
So if you know that He's saying pause,
it's in like no activity, but for some specific area,
not that you wouldn't be part of your community
or whatever, like pause the launch
or whatever it is that you're talking about.
And I'm just throwing it out there to ask the Lord.
If He's saying pause, He's gonna provide the increase.
He makes Himself responsible for whatever it is
that He told us to do.
And I don't know what He's telling you to do.
Those are just two different things.
That if He says to pause, then if He says
that there's an element of inactivity,
He will make provision for it.
And we rest in Him knowing that He's got it taken care of.
He gave me this instruction.
I'm just standing in Him and then He'll take care of it.
There's also the other thing of understanding
that rest does not mean inactivity.
So I don't know which one that He is,
you know, what He's talking to you about and whatever,
but those were just some things to talk to ask Him about
so that you can finally get to a place of peace.
Okay, so here's another thing.
So really, really quick, what would you call it?
I don't know, just really quick thing to throw out
that I talk in greater extent in the Rest Intensive
is actually how to make decisions.
So what it is that you're looking for
is first of all, be honest about your soul,
what your soul wants and how it feels,
not whether or not your soul is feeling,
whether or not what it is that you're feeling is godly
and you're proud of yourself for being honest.
It's extremely important because it gets you a baseline
to start with, I'm on, and you know,
this is where I feel comfortable,
familiar with this decision versus this one.
Okay, but then you think,
oh, so why do I feel comfortable and familiar?
Well, I feel comfortable and familiar
because it feels like I won't be afraid.
I won't be afraid if I make this decision.
This just feels like I'm in control.
This one over here though, I don't know what's gonna happen,
I don't know where it could go,
I'm very afraid over here.
Then once you get that, then you shift into your spirit
and you think, okay, now,
believing my soul and what my soul wants,
where do I sense my peace?
Because your peace is gonna be where your faith is at.
And it doesn't matter where your faith is at.
God is excited about the fact that
whatever to whatever degree that you believe his word,
what he is excited about is just the fact that you believe.
He doesn't look at it and be like,
yeah, but you didn't believe enough.
He's like, no, you believed.
He's very excited about it.
You know, so just,
and it doesn't mean that he's gonna leave you there forever.
He's just like, oh no, no, no.
She doesn't know how much more freedom.
I can give her.
But just because there's more freedom that we can move into does not mean that he condemns
us for where we are.
Because in Christ, there is therefore now no more shame or condemnation.
So I have this thing that I say, there is therefore now no condemnation, there is therefore
now no obligation.
And I explain that in the group.
But anyway, so just look for your peace and know that God is happy wherever your peace
is at.
Your peace, again, is not comfortability and familiarity, that's in your soul.
So that's why we get that baseline first, because that's easier for us to recognize.
Then we shifted to our spirit now that we've acknowledged our soul and our soul feels heard.
This is more of a comfortable and familiar, yes, but in my spirit, where is my peace at?
So that you know, okay, this is where my faith is at.
And I need to operate in wherever my faith is at, usually, but not always.
Your peace is going to be wherever your soul found its greatest fear.
That's not always, your faith may not be to that level yet.
But so often our faith is more than what we're acting like, especially if we're in a state
of transition, it means that God is moving our faith.
So we find ourselves having peace in an area we haven't yet stepped into and have experience
in stepping into.
But it's not always true because sometimes our faith just isn't there yet, which is fine.
Our faith may still be here, and by faith and by peace, I'm talking about where do we
know in our spirit, not in our mind, not in our soul, where do we know in our spirit that
God will come through?
Not that he can come through, but that he will come through.
Where does our faith know he will?
Not how our mind can conceive about how it'll happen.
Where does our faith know in our spirit, how I know God, where I'm abiding in him, I'm
in the Father's heart, where do I just know he's going to come through?
That's your peace, that's your faith, and step out in that and declare God's character,
saying, God, you're this good, you're going to come through.
Step out in that and he'll be so excited that you believed him to that extent and he will
come through.
Amen.
That's so good.
I've taken a lot of notes, but that's just ... Sorry, that was fast.
I was trying to be- No, no, no, no, no.
It's all hitting home, and I'm so thankful.
Ashley, I'm so thankful that you shared even the specifics of that, how you see that we
make decisions, because that's exactly where I'm at, and it makes complete sense.
I know here, so it's just that conversation with him to have that permission.
I think it is important that we can feel and be honest about what we feel, or else we end
up stuck there, because we're not allowing that permission to be honest with him.
But then to move out of that, it makes complete sense, and I like the way you delineate between
those two.
So beautiful.
Wow.
Well, I'm like, my heart is so full, and I'm just blown away.
I know.
I'm like, I knew from the first night, I'm like, I know, God, I just know that you're
going to connect us, connect us.
And I just waited on it in terms of when he would say go, but I know, yeah, I'll pray
about the specifics here today, and always take it to him, but I just know that there's
a lot here, and I'm so thankful for your time, and so thankful for what you're doing.
I don't know.
I just don't meet very many people that align this well, and so I just see it all as a gift
from him, and the fact that I was on that night, and one of the few constant commenters
on all that you were saying, and just that he connected us that way is, you know, impossibly,
you know, not him.
So.
Yeah.
And if for whatever reason, you need to look back at like that explanation about like the
peace, and the fear, and all of that, I go, I talk about it again in my interview with
Natalie.
Natalie Lawson.
So if you go through my Facebook page, and you see her, my interview with her, now, unfortunately,
it's kind of a glitchy video.
The internet was, my internet was pretty bad that day, but I do talk, she asked about it,
and I do address it again in there, just in case you wanted to hear it again.
Do you share your personal story, Ashley, when you, when in the beginning stages of
like your teachings, do you share how you came, you know, out of business, and how he
led you to this way of doing things at any point, or is that just kind of a personal
conversation?
Um, that is, I mentioned it here and there, that's more of, yeah, people are welcome to
ask me.
I'm an open book.
I don't, it doesn't bother me at all.
I guess I just assume that people are always here for themselves, and they don't want,
they don't need my story.
And, but if you want to hear my story, look.
At there's a post that I did in which I'm wearing this shirt, actually. So I love that shirt on you, by the way. I love that.
Other great but then yeah
I'm wearing this one and I have a scarf in my in my bun. It's so weird. I
Picture.
Black and white scarf that's hanging down. So if you scroll down and look for that look for that picture that is a synopsis of my spiritual journey in and it is a poet related specifically to business. So yeah, there's more to the story, but that gives you at least a starting point and
People asking you for more information because and then periodically things will come up periodically. I'll give an example in testimony for my own life when I'm answering questions.
Yeah, okay. Okay. Well, I love it out. I will. I'm going to pray and see what he says specifically about the the sewing and I think it's possible to that he would have me. So, um, multiple times, like, um,
Yeah, so it's so unfaithful like right this minute and then I would have like I but I don't feel like that's like a one and done like I would want to sell it. He like leads me throughout to if if
Because I feel like it's going to be more, more than in this moment that he's going to ask me to so or that, you know, he's going to tell me
I just feel like it's going to be more than than today. Does that make sense. Like, so I don't want to put it off.
Yeah, I'm start, but I also want you to know, you know, if that's okay if that's okay with you, that
I would let you know ahead of time that if I so because I feel like this is what he's saying to start right, you know, in the moment and not wait that that that's not that's not it. That's not, you know, so necessarily complete. Um, but I'm going to pray about that.
But I'm going to pray about that.
Yeah, it doesn't matter. It's all between you and the Lord. You don't even have to let me know ahead of time. It's totally between you and the Lord. I've had people do that.
You know, you know, just, just so additionally, you know, as they were praying and like they knew that the Lord wanted them to do something else, but it's totally between them. The Lord, the Lord provides for me. It's, you know,
May I ask you, just like a woman relating to you and coaching. May I ask you, like, how he provides for you. Is that too personal to like like is it is he does he provide for you through this business and this model does is he provide additionally and you know this is this is a newer intensive that you're doing, like, is that
Oh yeah, yeah, no, no, that's fine. The because this is this is what the intensive is about is actually living life. And so that's what an example is me, you know,
So, yeah, so he provides for me. Yes. Okay, so he provides for me, period. Sometimes he provides for me monetarily.
In other words, through money. That's my point. He provides for me, period. But there's that there's so much more in provision than how it having to come through money. That's one form through which it could come, but it doesn't have to. I mean, what it is that I, what is it that I spend money on, you know, well, I spend it on things that I that I that I believe that I need like food. Right.
Well, God can either provide me the food or it can provide for me provide for my body in a way that I don't even need the food. It doesn't matter. He doesn't provide it's done. It's done related to money and that so but sometimes if he chooses to provide for me through money, but it's not always
And I can I can tell you stories about has provided otherwise and I bet. And, you know, beyond business. He provides for me.
But sometimes it's through the business where all of a sudden a client or client will join in the end, the monetary commitment that they end up making is
Complete covers the expenses that I have coming up. Well, I didn't know that client was going to come
The one from last night. I had no idea. She and I were getting on there totally strategy session, you know, for free. It was no big deal. She was asking me, hey, do you do this. And I said, I don't
And but I'm more than having you jump on and do it for free. We can just visit. Well, by the end of it. She signed up for the group. I'm like, well, I was not
God just just whatever is so yeah he provides
A much more
Flow of freedom like in the relationships, even, you know, that becomes them business because people then they don't have that pressure or the
The expectation and then it's like whatever he wants. And you don't want people that aren't led by Holy Spirit. Anyway, so it's like you want them to be led and then you don't want money to deter.
What is that
Eating either way. So I love that. Okay.
Thank you so much.
Welcome.
Yes.
Love it.
Nice to meet you.
I'm so thankful.
It's so nice to meet you, too.
If I have my makeup on, it's like we could be sisters.
Like, if you see in my picture, I'm like, oh my gosh, we have, like, the same coloring,
except for you've got the caramel highlights and stuff.
But as far as, like, the dark brown eyes, and you're more tan, but, like, the darker
hair, and it's just funny.
I remember seeing your picture and being like, oh my goodness, like, we could be cousins
at the very least.
That's fun.
Oh, you're so beautiful.
Thank you.
I was thinking the same thing about you.
Sorry.
I complimented.
Oh, you're so sweet.
It's been seriously just a gift from the beginning of meeting you on the interview to being like,
Laura, connect us, like, your way, your time, and just having this sense and knowing in
my spirit.
And, like, hearing everything today just makes all of it makes sense.
So thank you so much.
I'm so happy to be here.
I'm so excited.
Thank you.
I'll see you soon.
Bye.
Oof.
Present.
Okay.
This takes me back to.
What he's.
What he's put on my heart to do.
So it's this in-between of, okay, I'm just gonna do whatever it looks like God and a day by day.
And there's Christians that are like, you need to have a nine to five and you're a single mom.
And, you know, what are you doing to provide for your family?
And I'm like, I'm just gonna do whatever it looks like.
I'm just gonna do what I need to do.
And I'm not going to make any decisions.
And I'm not going to decide aside from the resume.
Or what, you know, my degrees in like I'm saying yes to what he's put on my
heart.
And so anyways, it's just, um,
Yeah, there's a lot that I'm going to be chewing on and praying on today
and just rejoicing in, because you're just,
you're such a delight and I feel like an instant sister and I,
I'm just so grateful for what he's done for us.
And, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and,
and our stories, what he's done in our, in our life.
And that's really the best place to be operating from.
Yeah.
Out of our gifts and out of, you know, just the genuine,
what he's done for us.
Um,
The levels of freedom, like I'm just coming into that, you know,
and going, I know he's called me to set, you know,
help set that the spiritual cap is free. Not that,
not that it's not also physical captives, but Isaiah 61 has been.
And so really I feel like I'm, I'm here to just help, you know,
plant these trees of righteousness or see him having already planted
them, see them flourish. And, you know, then shade,
provide shade to the others that are sprouting up and just, um,
See him do a restoration work, you know, in.
Especially women and girls, but, but yeah, we definitely align.
And I know this is like this missing piece of rest.
Yeah.
And operating from this mindset of kingdom.
Like it's all still new enough to me that it hasn't sunk in.
So this is like a chance for it to sink in.
Yeah.
As I'm hitting this place where it's like this wall, even through,
like I said, so many months of.
Yeah.
It's been a foreign concept since I was the littlest girl, you know,
and just carrying a responsibility and a weight of the world and other
people and my parents and everything that I can see, I never have rested.
And yet everything in me says.
That's that's,
that's the place that makes the sense to operate from and that I want to
be able to extend and teach my,
the women that got put to my care and my own girls.
So like, how can I go any more steps? And it's like the perfect tiny.
When I'm I'm realizing that, and he's showing me that, and he's,
he's actually stopping me from moving forward into any more of that
because the time I guess really is now to,
before I launched into, you know,
what he has for me next in ministering to other women that I could say
from an authentic place.
Right. That I've, I.
I have that peace in my life and that I'm truly operating from that
place. Cause I don't,
I don't want to step out in any way, feel.
Unsettled or, or like I'm faking it until I make it. And anyway,
you know,
Correct. Yeah.
So I know, I know.
There's no reason to fake it. If we've already, if we're already,
what it is that we've always hoped that we would be,
we're just having to believe that we are who God says that we are.
So it's actually a journey of remembering who it is that we are.
Yes. And that's actually one of the stages of my coaching, which we'll talk another time
about this. Cause I don't want you to ever feel like we align so well, even in coaching
with women. I don't, I want to like go through this and be able to be completely honest about
like your part in, in my transformation. But it's, it's, it's, um, what am I doing? It's
already called remember, right? One of my stages, you know, like, you know, you talk
about that. These are, this is where we start with God's love and identity. I mean, one
of those, those faces is remembering. And so, um, so we, we align on that, but I don't
want you to ever feel like I'm in the future, like, um, not honoring what you've poured
in. If I, it's going to become part of my identity and my makeup to think this way naturally,
I'm going to coach from that place. Right. So I just want to honor you and say, that's
in the beginning that, you know, whatever it looks like, I'd love to like point women,
obviously to you and just be honest about you being central and, and, um, God using
you and I'm in my transformation and breakthrough, even as I have a similar, do you know what
I mean? Maybe a similar, but we're all different. There's room for us all. Like there's no competition
in the kingdom, but I guess I just want to say that to make sure that I'm honest in the
beginning about how much I want that to be an open place where we can, we can like, uh,
as he leads or even lock arms, if we have something similar going on or that you don't
ever feel like I left your program. And now look, she's teaching these things that like,
well, naturally I'm going to teach the things that I'm learning along the way. And I already
have that, but this is going to be one of them. I can tell you now, like that I'm going
to teach women too, you know, um, on some level, you know, maybe it won't be my whole
focus and intensive, but I'll point them to you for that. Yeah. Well, you know, I, what,
everything you said was just very, very sweet, very honoring. And I appreciate you mentioning
that, but, um, you know, understand that this isn't my message and this is the Lord's, uh,
this is the children's bread from their father period, but he revealed it to me in a way that,
and, and, um, uh, and it has allowed me to live it and has allowed me to articulate it according
to my own unique identity, because our identity is the point at which our spirit is unified with
his spirit. And so when I'm speaking, it's going to have a different sound because he and I together
look slightly different than he and you work together. But the message that I speak is not
mine. It's our father's and it's our right. And it's our inheritance. So you can go preach it.
This is a good thing. We need to all be more of who we are. It's not mine. It's not yours. It's
everybody's that, um, you know, that we, that we would be speaking to again, it's not learning.
It's unlearning. We all have this. We all know this we've forgotten. Yes. Yes. Okay. Yes. So
good. And we need so much more of it. That's what I, you know, even women that, that I've, you know,
met along the way and that are so aligned, that's why the Lord's highlighted them to me. Um,
you know, especially like with the collective, but like, that's, that's the thing is it's all about
like multiplication. And so, I mean, when he's saying arise, shine, and then he's added like
multiplying, I've been hearing that all spring. Like it's, it's because as when we disciple,
you know, we're discipling really each other. And then that's, that is a multiplication of his,
his love and his identity and what we need more on the earth than ever. And that we were,
we need so many more of us than we could ever possibly. Yeah. You know, like to, to compete
or to feel like we need to hoard any of what we've been given. It doesn't, it doesn't make
sense, but it's this old, again, this old, old way, this old covenant thing, um, that has to
be cut off. And I'm seeing it in the body even now that struggle sometimes of like, okay, I don't
want to, I don't want to, but this is like kind of my thing, but then it's his thing. And it's like,
but we need, we need so many of us. How can we think that we're ever really even competition?
Because like, think about how rare this is. I mean, there's no lack in the kingdom.
No, that's not scarcity. So right. Amen. Amen. We don't have to protect ourselves.
Yes. So good. Well, I'm so excited to work with you and thank you again for, for everything that
you shared and all that you're doing. And I just bless you, bless you today in Jesus name and all
that you, all your calls and all of your conversations, Lord is blessed. Actually,
Lord, I just asked for, um, just a special, just, just an extra measure of your love, Lord,
just to, to encourage her, um, today, Lord, that you would just lift her up and help her to know,
um, even more deeply than what she's doing matters. God, that every conversation,
Laura would just be joy in her spirit. That would just bring her to life. Um, even more,
just seeing you be able to work through her and use her as a vessel, God, and to
minister to other women that you would give her even a knowing.
without me having to say the words or other women having to say the words of how much she
um
And her obedience to you is making the impact and and how pleased you are with her just for being a daughter god
and just that you would
Just bless her today again
Just many many times over god and that you would just fill her cup to overflowing lord and just pour out more and more oil
on her
and as she as she ministers and as she
Trusts you and as she looks to you and points women to you
And I just thank you so much for her heart in this conversation god and that you are
Doing a new thing. You're doing a new thing god, and this is a new wine skin and a new
um
Just a new season lord. That's never been seen before and so we look to you
We we praise you god. We worship you we honor you for being so
good to show us these things we didn't see before and to bring us the freedom that we've been longing for all our lives god that
we've
We've just um, we've known as ours, but I didn't know how to access and I just thank you that you are that access and
You're the full
measure of freedom and we just ask that for um to go out to so many women and girls lord, um
and men too as as well because
We all just need to know who we are and you and to experience your love and your freedom lord is life
And bless your name and we just ask for all
Um everything that we do today to be run just through you and by your spirit lord and done in faith
And that you would continue just to be so close to us in jesus name
Amen
Amen. Okay. Thank you. All right girl. Yes. Oh, yes. Okay. Talk to you so soon
Okay. Bye. Okay
Oh good to visit you too. Sorry. Another call came through. I didn't want to not say goodbye our faces so
Bye