WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:13.320 Okay, so if you come up with your own technology and you want to do some searching yourself, 2 00:00:13.320 --> 00:00:14.320 you can. 3 00:00:14.320 --> 00:00:17.480 This is a USPTO website. 4 00:00:17.480 --> 00:00:25.040 You go to the main screen, here's the main screen, you go to patents, search for patents 5 00:00:25.040 --> 00:00:32.320 right here, you click on that, it takes you to this screen, just scroll down to where 6 00:00:32.320 --> 00:00:42.800 it says patent public search, click on that, you do a basic search, and you're on this 7 00:00:42.800 --> 00:00:43.800 screen here. 8 00:00:43.800 --> 00:00:47.680 Now if you know the patent or the patent publication, you can put it there, but otherwise you just 9 00:00:47.680 --> 00:00:49.560 kind of put in some subject matter here. 10 00:00:49.560 --> 00:01:01.920 So let's say you're doing like voice recognition software, I wonder if that'll pop up. 11 00:01:01.920 --> 00:01:14.940 I won't recognize it, let me see, I have to do it in a more simplistic way. 12 00:01:14.940 --> 00:01:24.100 So if you search, let's say like bicycle, you click search, underneath it you'll see 13 00:01:24.100 --> 00:01:28.860 all the results of when you search just for the word bicycle. 14 00:01:28.860 --> 00:01:42.820 You can select different words, so bicycle and let's say tires, and search, and then 15 00:01:42.980 --> 00:01:46.380 these are all the patents that are coming up for bicycle and tires. 16 00:01:46.380 --> 00:01:52.980 So you can, similar to the trademark database, you can select what you're looking for. 17 00:01:52.980 --> 00:01:59.780 I would select everything here, and then just leave it at everything, and then just put 18 00:01:59.780 --> 00:02:02.540 in the words that you want. 19 00:02:02.540 --> 00:02:06.700 Now the old database, in my opinion, used to be way better. 20 00:02:06.700 --> 00:02:11.540 I don't really like the way they set up the new database, personally, I think it's way 21 00:02:11.540 --> 00:02:14.820 more complex than it used to be. 22 00:02:14.820 --> 00:02:32.100 Let me see, artificial intelligence, yeah, like if you search artificial intelligence, 23 00:02:32.100 --> 00:02:34.740 these are a bunch of patents that pop up. 24 00:02:34.740 --> 00:02:37.980 You can sort by inventor name or any way you want. 25 00:02:37.980 --> 00:02:43.620 There's different ways to do your own patent searching on this site. 26 00:02:43.620 --> 00:02:50.620 Again it's a free site, but my concern with this is that if you don't use the right words, 27 00:02:50.620 --> 00:02:53.260 the results are not going to come up. 28 00:02:53.260 --> 00:02:59.300 So what I mean by that is, if you're trying to figure out, like you're searching for a 29 00:02:59.300 --> 00:03:05.620 bicycle, but instead of them calling it a bicycle, they call it a two-wheeled mechanism, 30 00:03:05.620 --> 00:03:08.740 and you use the word bicycle, it won't come up. 31 00:03:08.740 --> 00:03:10.740 That's the problem. 32 00:03:10.740 --> 00:03:20.300 So the reason why I don't like the USPTO website a tremendous amount is because you've got 33 00:03:20.300 --> 00:03:22.620 to use the right words. 34 00:03:22.620 --> 00:03:28.020 So you have to come up with like, look up synonyms, continue looking up other words 35 00:03:28.020 --> 00:03:33.300 one by one to see if you can come up with the results that you need. 36 00:03:33.300 --> 00:03:42.140 But I mean, as you can see here, they're showing 1 to 50 of 218,000 records. 37 00:03:42.140 --> 00:03:46.980 Pretty sure nobody here is going to be reviewing 218,000 records. 38 00:03:46.980 --> 00:03:54.040 So you've got to use words that are very narrow to find what you're looking for. 39 00:03:54.040 --> 00:04:14.360 So if I'm looking for microchip fabrication, I might want to look up VLSI design and microchip. 40 00:04:14.360 --> 00:04:16.800 And still, I've got 3,000 records. 41 00:04:16.800 --> 00:04:21.640 So now all the patents that come up should show up, they're associated with VLSI design 42 00:04:21.640 --> 00:04:25.480 and microchip fabrication. 43 00:04:25.480 --> 00:04:26.840 And that's what I come up with. 44 00:04:26.840 --> 00:04:37.640 So if you've got something more simple like brush and hair, so these are all patents that 45 00:04:37.640 --> 00:04:43.720 are associated with brush and hair. 46 00:04:43.720 --> 00:04:48.360 So it's really broad, but I'm just going to open up a patent so you can see what it looks 47 00:04:48.400 --> 00:04:49.400 like. 48 00:04:49.400 --> 00:04:50.400 Click the PDF. 49 00:04:50.400 --> 00:04:51.400 Pow. 50 00:04:51.400 --> 00:04:56.200 Can you see the patent right now? 51 00:04:56.200 --> 00:04:57.200 Yeah? 52 00:04:57.200 --> 00:04:58.200 Okay. 53 00:04:58.200 --> 00:05:00.040 So this is a sample of what a patent looks like. 54 00:05:00.000 --> 00:05:02.600 Looks like now this is a patent publication. 55 00:05:02.600 --> 00:05:05.280 That's why it has the publication number here, 56 00:05:05.280 --> 00:05:06.240 right over here. 57 00:05:06.240 --> 00:05:07.400 It's not letting me grab it, 58 00:05:07.400 --> 00:05:12.160 but right over here in this circle here is the publication. 59 00:05:12.160 --> 00:05:14.540 That's the date that the patent was published 60 00:05:14.540 --> 00:05:15.880 right underneath it. 61 00:05:15.880 --> 00:05:19.220 And that's the publication patent number. 62 00:05:19.220 --> 00:05:21.440 You've got the title of it, 63 00:05:21.440 --> 00:05:24.600 attachment, bust, device. 64 00:05:24.600 --> 00:05:28.360 You got the applicant is the company. 65 00:05:28.360 --> 00:05:29.640 So if you're trying to figure out 66 00:05:29.640 --> 00:05:32.320 whether or not a certain company owns certain patents, 67 00:05:32.320 --> 00:05:34.960 you can search for that company's name, right? 68 00:05:34.960 --> 00:05:36.920 So if I'm trying to figure out 69 00:05:36.920 --> 00:05:39.420 whether or not Alicia has a bunch of patents, 70 00:05:39.420 --> 00:05:42.240 I can search under her name as an inventor 71 00:05:42.240 --> 00:05:45.600 and see all the thousands of patents that she has. 72 00:05:45.600 --> 00:05:47.460 You know, I can look at any of those. 73 00:05:48.700 --> 00:05:52.800 The assignee is the party who the patent was assigned to. 74 00:05:52.800 --> 00:05:56.120 So it might be filed in the name of a certain individual, 75 00:05:56.120 --> 00:05:58.620 but they might assign it to another individual. 76 00:05:58.620 --> 00:06:01.360 So the assignee would be the one that receives it. 77 00:06:03.180 --> 00:06:04.940 And then you've got the different parts of the patent 78 00:06:04.940 --> 00:06:06.180 that I told you about before. 79 00:06:06.180 --> 00:06:07.580 Like that's the abstract. 80 00:06:07.580 --> 00:06:11.000 So it's basically a brief description of everything. 81 00:06:11.000 --> 00:06:13.540 That's a drawing there. 82 00:06:13.540 --> 00:06:15.980 Obviously it's a drawing. 83 00:06:15.980 --> 00:06:17.820 These are the drawings of the patent. 84 00:06:19.180 --> 00:06:21.940 That basically is showing the invention and its use. 85 00:06:23.620 --> 00:06:24.660 These are all drawings. 86 00:06:24.660 --> 00:06:26.720 There's a lot of drawings in this patent. 87 00:06:27.720 --> 00:06:29.680 A lot, a lot of drawings. 88 00:06:29.680 --> 00:06:30.520 All right. 89 00:06:30.520 --> 00:06:31.720 And then you get to the detail. 90 00:06:31.720 --> 00:06:33.120 Then you get to the patent itself. 91 00:06:33.120 --> 00:06:36.220 And so there's a section that talks about the prior art, 92 00:06:36.220 --> 00:06:38.440 which is your background on the invention. 93 00:06:38.440 --> 00:06:41.400 Advantages of the invention is really the summary. 94 00:06:41.400 --> 00:06:42.560 That's what it's supposed to be called, 95 00:06:42.560 --> 00:06:43.800 summary of the invention. 96 00:06:45.240 --> 00:06:50.240 And then you get into, oh goodness. 97 00:06:50.400 --> 00:06:53.240 They didn't do a good job on this patent. 98 00:06:54.780 --> 00:06:55.760 The big mess. 99 00:06:57.560 --> 00:06:58.680 Here we go. 100 00:06:58.680 --> 00:07:01.880 Then you have all the drawings of the patent here. 101 00:07:01.880 --> 00:07:04.720 It describes what each patent does. 102 00:07:04.720 --> 00:07:07.040 I mean, what each drawing is. 103 00:07:07.040 --> 00:07:10.400 So like this is a schematic 3D view 104 00:07:10.400 --> 00:07:14.040 of a plug on brush device. 105 00:07:14.040 --> 00:07:14.880 You know, every single, 106 00:07:14.880 --> 00:07:16.480 it's basically a very brief description 107 00:07:16.480 --> 00:07:17.960 of what every drawing has. 108 00:07:17.960 --> 00:07:19.680 Then this is a detailed description. 109 00:07:19.680 --> 00:07:22.760 It talks about the invention in a lot of detail. 110 00:07:22.760 --> 00:07:24.440 And that goes on all the way to, 111 00:07:24.440 --> 00:07:25.720 this is the most important part 112 00:07:25.720 --> 00:07:27.480 I want you to remember now, 113 00:07:27.480 --> 00:07:31.260 right here at the end, claims, all right? 114 00:07:32.640 --> 00:07:34.440 Starting right here where the number is, 115 00:07:34.440 --> 00:07:37.060 let me make it bigger so you can see it. 116 00:07:37.060 --> 00:07:39.660 Right here where the number is one, 117 00:07:39.660 --> 00:07:42.800 a blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, right? 118 00:07:42.800 --> 00:07:44.760 This is what you look at to determine 119 00:07:44.760 --> 00:07:46.600 whether or not you infringe a patent. 120 00:07:47.840 --> 00:07:49.360 So if you got a new technology 121 00:07:49.360 --> 00:07:52.280 and you want to know, can I make it? 122 00:07:52.280 --> 00:07:54.440 Then they'll do a patent search. 123 00:07:54.440 --> 00:07:55.480 When they do a patent search, 124 00:07:56.200 --> 00:07:57.240 they'll return patents to you. 125 00:07:57.240 --> 00:08:00.040 And then you got to look at the claims. 126 00:08:00.040 --> 00:08:01.560 You look at these claims at the end, 127 00:08:01.560 --> 00:08:04.400 there's numbers on them and then you read it. 128 00:08:04.400 --> 00:08:06.080 And you see, if you have everything 129 00:08:06.080 --> 00:08:07.620 that's listed in that claim, 130 00:08:08.840 --> 00:08:11.200 if there's even one thing in that claim 131 00:08:11.200 --> 00:08:13.040 that you don't have, 132 00:08:13.040 --> 00:08:16.780 then you don't infringe the patent, okay? 133 00:08:16.780 --> 00:08:18.320 So I can't tell you how many times 134 00:08:18.320 --> 00:08:21.080 I've seen somebody get a cease and desist letter 135 00:08:21.080 --> 00:08:22.920 and they send money over to the other party 136 00:08:22.920 --> 00:08:24.760 or they just stopped doing something 137 00:08:24.760 --> 00:08:28.000 and they never did a patent infringement analysis, 138 00:08:28.000 --> 00:08:29.200 which makes no sense. 139 00:08:29.200 --> 00:08:32.760 Like you should not be stopping what you're doing 140 00:08:32.760 --> 00:08:35.260 unless you know that you're infringing. 141 00:08:35.260 --> 00:08:38.159 I mean, it just makes no sense, right? 142 00:08:38.159 --> 00:08:41.520 Now, just for everybody's knowledge, 143 00:08:41.520 --> 00:08:42.919 let me give you an inside scoop 144 00:08:42.919 --> 00:08:45.720 on how the patent world works. 145 00:08:45.720 --> 00:08:46.920 This is really important. 146 00:08:46.920 --> 00:08:50.000 So in the patent world, 147 00:08:50.000 --> 00:08:52.520 since litigation is so expensive, 148 00:08:52.520 --> 00:08:55.480 it's really, really, really expensive, 149 00:08:55.480 --> 00:08:58.320 what they do is they threaten you with litigation, 150 00:08:58.320 --> 00:09:01.880 even if they don't have a case, okay? 151 00:09:01.880 --> 00:09:03.260 They'll threaten you because they know 152 00:09:03.260 --> 00:09:04.620 for you to defend yourself, 153 00:09:04.620 --> 00:09:07.360 it's gonna cost you tens of thousands, 154 00:09:07.360 --> 00:09:10.260 if not hundreds of thousands, if not millions of dollars. 155 00:09:11.160 --> 00:09:14.040 So their intent is to scare the living daylights out of you 156 00:09:14.040 --> 00:09:17.520 so that you'll back off and stop doing what you're doing 157 00:09:18.520 --> 00:09:22.480 so that they can then proceed in, you know, 158 00:09:22.480 --> 00:09:24.240 using that technology going forward 159 00:09:24.240 --> 00:09:25.800 without you being a competitor. 160 00:09:26.680 --> 00:09:30.160 So that's how patents work. 161 00:09:30.160 --> 00:09:32.680 Patents are very powerful. 162 00:09:32.680 --> 00:09:35.440 There's these people called trolls. 163 00:09:35.440 --> 00:09:38.080 They're called, technically, I know David knows this stuff. 164 00:09:38.080 --> 00:09:39.320 There's these people that are called 165 00:09:39.320 --> 00:09:42.080 non-practicing entities, right? 166 00:09:42.080 --> 00:09:44.920 But we call them, what do we call them, David? 167 00:09:44.960 --> 00:09:45.800 Patent trolls. 168 00:09:45.800 --> 00:09:48.360 Trolls, we call them patent trolls. 169 00:09:48.360 --> 00:09:49.840 These are the scum of the earth. 170 00:09:49.840 --> 00:09:50.960 No, I'm just kidding. 171 00:09:50.960 --> 00:09:53.440 So, but I've, yes, exactly. 172 00:09:53.440 --> 00:09:55.920 These guys are, these are bad guys. 173 00:09:55.920 --> 00:09:57.760 They're just nasty. 174 00:09:57.760 --> 00:09:59.460 So the way that they work, 175 00:10:00.000 --> 00:10:05.720 I mean, technically, what they're doing is not wrong, all right? 176 00:10:05.720 --> 00:10:13.420 Because patents are an intangible asset, meaning if I own a chair and David Kim wants to buy 177 00:10:13.420 --> 00:10:17.580 the chair, I can sell him the chair, and now he can allow people to sit in the chair or 178 00:10:17.580 --> 00:10:18.580 not sit in the chair. 179 00:10:18.580 --> 00:10:19.580 It's up to him. 180 00:10:19.580 --> 00:10:20.580 It's his chair, right? 181 00:10:20.580 --> 00:10:28.520 Well, a patent is an inanimate object, meaning you can't grab it, but at the same time, there's 182 00:10:28.520 --> 00:10:30.120 certain legal rights associated with it. 183 00:10:30.120 --> 00:10:35.680 So if David, if I have a certain patent and David buys it, David can enforce it against 184 00:10:35.680 --> 00:10:36.800 anybody he wants. 185 00:10:36.800 --> 00:10:39.280 It's an asset, right? 186 00:10:39.280 --> 00:10:48.460 So if Anna Marie has a house and I buy the house, I could kick anybody out that I want. 187 00:10:48.460 --> 00:10:50.760 It's my house, right? 188 00:10:50.760 --> 00:10:57.040 So Anna Marie had these really sweet neighbors that would come over for barbecues on Sundays, 189 00:10:57.040 --> 00:11:02.520 and they have like a pitcher of tea and lemonade, and they have these really lovely barbecues. 190 00:11:02.520 --> 00:11:07.480 And I come over and I own the house, and they come knocking on the door, we're ready for 191 00:11:07.480 --> 00:11:08.480 the barbecue. 192 00:11:08.480 --> 00:11:09.760 Get off my lawn. 193 00:11:09.760 --> 00:11:10.760 This is my house. 194 00:11:10.760 --> 00:11:12.800 Like literally, I could do that because it's my house. 195 00:11:12.800 --> 00:11:17.160 Now, I wouldn't do that, but that's the whole point being, it's my house. 196 00:11:17.160 --> 00:11:22.800 It's the same thing in the patent world, but it's way worse because these people are vicious. 197 00:11:22.800 --> 00:11:29.600 So what happens is these trolls buy up the patents, and then they look for people that 198 00:11:29.600 --> 00:11:31.480 potentially are infringing the patents. 199 00:11:31.480 --> 00:11:38.000 So basically, people that are potentially doing what's in the claims of the patent. 200 00:11:38.000 --> 00:11:43.560 And when they find them, they'll send them these nasty grams and say, look, I'm going 201 00:11:43.560 --> 00:11:51.320 to file a lawsuit against you unless you fork over $250,000 or $50,000 or $100,000, whatever 202 00:11:51.320 --> 00:11:52.680 it is. 203 00:11:52.680 --> 00:11:53.860 And now you've got a choice. 204 00:11:53.860 --> 00:11:58.720 You can defend yourself against them, which I am very expensive. 205 00:11:58.720 --> 00:12:02.880 I mean, I'll tell you, I'm not a cheap date, I'll admit it. 206 00:12:02.880 --> 00:12:09.580 So I mean, to hire me is at least $600 an hour. 207 00:12:09.580 --> 00:12:16.100 And so I'm defending someone in litigation and hopefully getting them out of some kind 208 00:12:16.100 --> 00:12:17.480 of major situation. 209 00:12:17.480 --> 00:12:20.180 And so they know that. 210 00:12:20.180 --> 00:12:21.840 They know you're going to spend a lot of money. 211 00:12:22.000 --> 00:12:26.800 So they'll say to you, send me $50,000 and I'll leave you alone. 212 00:12:26.800 --> 00:12:30.720 Now you as a company are thinking to yourself, that's not fair. 213 00:12:30.720 --> 00:12:32.520 Yes, you are absolutely correct. 214 00:12:32.520 --> 00:12:37.080 It is not fair, and they know it's not fair, and they don't care. 215 00:12:37.080 --> 00:12:40.720 They don't care because they know that you're not going to be able to afford to be in litigation 216 00:12:40.720 --> 00:12:42.920 from the beginning to the end. 217 00:12:42.920 --> 00:12:49.080 So they tell you, pay me $50,000 now, I'll leave you alone. 218 00:12:49.080 --> 00:12:51.560 Or take this license, and I'll leave you alone. 219 00:12:52.280 --> 00:12:56.560 This is why it's important to understand how to do patent searches, how to get what I would 220 00:12:56.560 --> 00:13:03.040 do is I would hire a third party like Kramer and Amato or another group like that, who 221 00:13:03.040 --> 00:13:07.640 actually does patent searches, and find out whether or not what you're creating potentially 222 00:13:07.640 --> 00:13:10.320 infringes upon somebody else's patent. 223 00:13:10.320 --> 00:13:18.920 That's called a clearance search, clearance search, E-L-E-A-R-A-N-C-E search, okay? 224 00:13:18.920 --> 00:13:24.640 Now if you want to determine whether or not your idea can be patented, that's called a 225 00:13:24.640 --> 00:13:28.600 patentability search, okay? 226 00:13:28.600 --> 00:13:31.160 So if you want to get a patent, it's a patentability search. 227 00:13:31.160 --> 00:13:34.600 If you want to make sure you don't infringe somebody else's patents, that's called a clearance 228 00:13:34.600 --> 00:13:36.760 search, all right? 229 00:13:36.760 --> 00:13:39.520 Those are two of the major types of searches. 230 00:13:39.520 --> 00:13:44.360 Now there's other searches out there, there's like invalidity searches, there's field of 231 00:13:44.360 --> 00:13:46.280 use searches, there's all sorts of stuff. 232 00:13:46.280 --> 00:13:48.880 You'll learn about all that stuff in the protection portal. 233 00:13:48.880 --> 00:13:54.880 But for now, just understand clearance search if you want to be able to practice the invention, 234 00:13:54.880 --> 00:13:58.600 patentability search if you want to be able to file a patent, okay? 235 00:13:58.600 --> 00:14:01.400 Those are the two things you want to remember. 236 00:14:01.400 --> 00:14:07.080 Now remember, the provisional patent, you do not need all this stuff that's here. 237 00:14:08.080 --> 00:14:16.640 But, and please hear this, there is a requirement for the description in the provisional to 238 00:14:16.640 --> 00:14:21.640 be what's called, and this is a little confusing but I'll take it very slow with you, it needs 239 00:14:21.640 --> 00:14:25.200 to be enabling to one of ordinary skill in the art. 240 00:14:25.200 --> 00:14:28.800 What that means is somebody in the field needs to be able to pick up that thing and practice 241 00:14:28.800 --> 00:14:31.120 the invention. 242 00:14:31.120 --> 00:14:35.680 So you can't write, you can't say my invention is a bicycle and it contains something that 243 00:14:35.720 --> 00:14:40.920 you sit on and something rotates and you get from point A to point B. 244 00:14:40.920 --> 00:14:43.280 That's not enough description. 245 00:14:43.280 --> 00:14:46.320 Somebody has to be able to pick up that thing and practice the invention. 246 00:14:46.320 --> 00:14:51.040 If they can't do that, it can be argued not to be enabling to one of ordinary skill in 247 00:14:51.040 --> 00:14:52.040 the art. 248 00:14:52.040 --> 00:14:55.600 And that means you can't get the patent, okay? 249 00:14:55.600 --> 00:14:57.240 So it needs to be enabling. 250 00:14:57.240 --> 00:14:59.760 I see a lot of confused faces. 251 00:14:59.760 --> 00:15:00.760 Can you repeat that? 252 00:15:00.000 --> 00:15:01.840 Repeat that again a little slower. 253 00:15:01.840 --> 00:15:03.300 Yeah, I'm going to go through it. 254 00:15:03.300 --> 00:15:04.420 I'm going to go through it. 255 00:15:04.420 --> 00:15:08.360 So again, if you're filing a patent, 256 00:15:08.360 --> 00:15:12.080 you need to know how that technology works. 257 00:15:12.080 --> 00:15:15.820 So if it's a bicycle, you don't need to make a prototype. 258 00:15:15.820 --> 00:15:17.720 You don't need to actually make the device. 259 00:15:17.720 --> 00:15:19.560 You don't need to even sell the device. 260 00:15:19.560 --> 00:15:21.560 But you need to know how it works, 261 00:15:21.560 --> 00:15:23.840 meaning you got to have some pictures there, 262 00:15:23.840 --> 00:15:28.160 some drawings that show it, show how point A connects 263 00:15:28.160 --> 00:15:31.560 to point B, show how the whole thing works together, 264 00:15:31.560 --> 00:15:34.800 so that somebody in the field can pick that thing up 265 00:15:34.800 --> 00:15:37.160 and practice the invention. 266 00:15:37.160 --> 00:15:39.880 If they can't pick that thing up and practice the invention, 267 00:15:39.880 --> 00:15:43.600 someone's going to argue that it's not enabling. 268 00:15:43.600 --> 00:15:45.360 There's this theoretical person called 269 00:15:45.360 --> 00:15:47.040 the person of ordinary skill in the art. 270 00:15:47.040 --> 00:15:49.680 I'm not going to confuse you guys in that. 271 00:15:49.680 --> 00:15:51.520 Basically, what it's basically saying 272 00:15:51.520 --> 00:15:56.760 is somebody in the field picks up the description. 273 00:15:56.760 --> 00:15:58.720 They should be able to practice the invention. 274 00:15:58.720 --> 00:16:01.640 If they can't, it may be argued not to be enabling. 275 00:16:01.640 --> 00:16:04.280 If it's not enabling, you can't get a patent. 276 00:16:04.280 --> 00:16:05.600 What does all this mean? 277 00:16:05.600 --> 00:16:08.440 Like, what does all this legal garbage mean? 278 00:16:08.440 --> 00:16:12.600 What it means is if you don't know how it works, 279 00:16:12.600 --> 00:16:16.360 you're not going to be able to get a patent. 280 00:16:16.360 --> 00:16:20.040 All right, so if you're thinking to yourself, man, 281 00:16:20.040 --> 00:16:25.920 I got an idea, you sit down, you run 282 00:16:25.920 --> 00:16:27.920 from a stationary position, 283 00:16:27.920 --> 00:16:30.480 and somehow you get from point A to point B. 284 00:16:30.480 --> 00:16:31.760 I want a patent on that. 285 00:16:31.760 --> 00:16:34.160 No, you need more. 286 00:16:34.160 --> 00:16:37.160 You need to know what devices are connecting to what, 287 00:16:37.160 --> 00:16:38.960 what are the pieces of it. 288 00:16:38.960 --> 00:16:40.440 Now, you may not have to know 289 00:16:40.440 --> 00:16:44.520 that the pedal is exactly four inches. 290 00:16:44.520 --> 00:16:46.480 You may not need to know things to that detail, 291 00:16:46.480 --> 00:16:48.520 but you got to know that there's pedals. 292 00:16:48.520 --> 00:16:53.080 You got to know that when the pedals move, it moves a chain. 293 00:16:53.080 --> 00:16:55.360 You got to know that the chain is connected 294 00:16:55.360 --> 00:16:59.680 to certain things on a tire, which makes the tire rotate. 295 00:16:59.680 --> 00:17:01.320 Like, you got to describe that. 296 00:17:01.320 --> 00:17:05.200 You can't just say there's pedals, there's wheels, 297 00:17:05.200 --> 00:17:09.240 and you move the pedals and the wheels automatically turn. 298 00:17:09.240 --> 00:17:12.280 You got to explain how it does that. 299 00:17:12.280 --> 00:17:15.680 Without the description, David and I see things, 300 00:17:15.680 --> 00:17:18.640 rejections day after day after day, 301 00:17:18.640 --> 00:17:21.560 because not enabling, 112 rejection here, 302 00:17:21.560 --> 00:17:23.800 whatever, over and over and over. 303 00:17:23.800 --> 00:17:25.599 Not enabling, not enabling. 304 00:17:25.599 --> 00:17:30.600 So don't file a patent prematurely. 305 00:17:30.840 --> 00:17:34.640 Now, there is no requirement for you to make the product 306 00:17:34.640 --> 00:17:38.160 or to actually have done the method yourself. 307 00:17:38.160 --> 00:17:39.480 You don't have to do that. 308 00:17:39.480 --> 00:17:43.360 I mean, NASA, the government has patents on satellites. 309 00:17:43.360 --> 00:17:47.120 There's no room over in the Pentagon 310 00:17:47.120 --> 00:17:49.360 with a bunch of satellites sitting in it. 311 00:17:49.360 --> 00:17:51.640 Like, that doesn't happen. 312 00:17:51.840 --> 00:17:53.880 They got patents on rockets. 313 00:17:53.880 --> 00:17:56.560 There's no room in the Pentagon 314 00:17:56.560 --> 00:17:59.120 with rockets just laying down, 315 00:17:59.120 --> 00:18:01.120 where people go to lunch and they have to, like, 316 00:18:01.120 --> 00:18:03.360 move over and underneath the rockets. 317 00:18:03.360 --> 00:18:05.800 Like, that doesn't exist, right? 318 00:18:05.800 --> 00:18:07.800 But they know how it works, 319 00:18:07.800 --> 00:18:11.080 and they've created them on AutoCAD and other programs, 320 00:18:11.080 --> 00:18:13.560 so they file a patent based on that. 321 00:18:13.560 --> 00:18:15.840 So you may not need to create a prototype, 322 00:18:16.800 --> 00:18:20.920 but you do need to describe it and have pictures 323 00:18:20.920 --> 00:18:23.360 so somebody can create the invention and use it. 324 00:18:24.840 --> 00:18:25.880 Does that make sense? 325 00:18:27.840 --> 00:18:32.840 So some of you that have these, like, ideas in your head, 326 00:18:33.120 --> 00:18:35.760 you may be close to being able to file a patent, 327 00:18:35.760 --> 00:18:37.680 but you may not quite be there yet. 328 00:18:38.760 --> 00:18:41.520 So you want to jot all these things down. 329 00:18:41.520 --> 00:18:43.600 If anybody's dealt with a white paper, 330 00:18:43.600 --> 00:18:45.600 white papers are great. 331 00:18:45.600 --> 00:18:46.440 They're great. 332 00:18:46.440 --> 00:18:47.280 If you know how to write a white paper, 333 00:18:47.280 --> 00:18:49.200 you should be able to write a patent. 334 00:18:49.200 --> 00:18:51.120 Like, there's enough detail there. 335 00:18:51.120 --> 00:18:54.960 You just need to get rid of some of the theoretical stuff 336 00:18:54.960 --> 00:18:57.800 and, you know, some of the language that says, 337 00:18:57.800 --> 00:19:00.000 you know, we're thinking of doing this in the future. 338 00:19:00.000 --> 00:19:02.920 Like, get all the theoretical garbage out of it 339 00:19:02.920 --> 00:19:05.400 and just leave the concrete things. 340 00:19:05.400 --> 00:19:06.680 A connects to B. 341 00:19:06.680 --> 00:19:09.560 B does this. 342 00:19:09.560 --> 00:19:12.320 C is connected to B. 343 00:19:12.320 --> 00:19:14.360 The result is D. 344 00:19:14.360 --> 00:19:15.960 Like, those kinds of things. 345 00:19:15.960 --> 00:19:18.320 Very clear and concise descriptions. 346 00:19:18.320 --> 00:19:22.240 If it's a device, get a picture of the device. 347 00:19:22.240 --> 00:19:23.080 Right? 348 00:19:23.080 --> 00:19:25.240 You want to create a drawing that shows, 349 00:19:25.240 --> 00:19:27.640 a black and white drawing that shows the device. 350 00:19:28.680 --> 00:19:30.840 And then put that device there 351 00:19:30.840 --> 00:19:33.040 and nothing in the physical world gets moved. 352 00:19:34.240 --> 00:19:37.480 If one has a process, nothing. 353 00:19:37.480 --> 00:19:38.320 Hold on a second. 354 00:19:41.880 --> 00:19:42.880 One has a process, 355 00:19:42.880 --> 00:19:46.960 but nothing in the physical world gets moved. 356 00:19:46.960 --> 00:19:49.240 It's all psychological. 357 00:19:49.240 --> 00:19:50.080 We're interacting. 358 00:19:50.080 --> 00:19:51.560 Can it be patented? 359 00:19:51.560 --> 00:19:52.440 It's a good question. 360 00:19:52.440 --> 00:19:56.560 So, there are things called method patents. 361 00:19:56.560 --> 00:20:00.080 You might have a method of doing something. 362 00:20:00.000 --> 00:20:02.920 thing. 363 00:20:02.920 --> 00:20:06.840 The problem in the area of the non-physical world 364 00:20:06.840 --> 00:20:12.400 is that you have to worry about an area called 365 00:20:12.400 --> 00:20:14.360 unpatentable subject matter. 366 00:20:14.360 --> 00:20:19.680 And what that is, is if a human being can perform 367 00:20:19.680 --> 00:20:22.560 the action without a machine, without any intervention 368 00:20:22.560 --> 00:20:24.800 in any way, shape, or form, the patent office 369 00:20:24.800 --> 00:20:26.240 tends to fight you. 370 00:20:26.240 --> 00:20:27.640 And you've got to overcome. 371 00:20:27.640 --> 00:20:31.240 I'm not going to go into all the parts of a one-on-one rejection 372 00:20:31.240 --> 00:20:34.400 because your heads will explode. 373 00:20:34.400 --> 00:20:38.480 The stuff that we need to know is insane, 374 00:20:38.480 --> 00:20:41.480 which is why we get paid so much, quite frankly. 375 00:20:41.480 --> 00:20:46.800 But suffice to say, if Rhea can perform the entire action 376 00:20:46.800 --> 00:20:50.760 by herself, it's going to be a little difficult to get 377 00:20:50.760 --> 00:20:55.760 a patent if she can do it completely by herself. 378 00:20:55.760 --> 00:20:58.440 Now, if you're starting to add some software into it, 379 00:20:58.440 --> 00:21:01.840 some computer interaction, some functionality that's 380 00:21:01.840 --> 00:21:04.080 performed by some electronics, you 381 00:21:04.080 --> 00:21:07.320 get a higher chance of getting an issued patent. 382 00:21:07.320 --> 00:21:09.840 If you're doing it entirely by yourself, 383 00:21:09.840 --> 00:21:13.520 like a first arm grabbing something from point A, 384 00:21:13.520 --> 00:21:18.080 moving it to point B, releasing it, second arm picks it up, 385 00:21:18.080 --> 00:21:20.720 moves it over to point C, releases it. 386 00:21:20.720 --> 00:21:24.640 Well, I just did that with my hands. 387 00:21:24.640 --> 00:21:27.760 So instead, the claims of the patent 388 00:21:27.760 --> 00:21:31.880 would have to say things like a memory for performing 389 00:21:31.880 --> 00:21:34.320 the functions of blah, blah, blah, 390 00:21:34.320 --> 00:21:36.680 or a processor for blah, blah, blah, 391 00:21:36.680 --> 00:21:40.160 and then talking in detail about a mechanical arm, which 392 00:21:40.160 --> 00:21:42.640 is controlled by a controller, the controller receiving 393 00:21:42.640 --> 00:21:47.720 instructions by functionality provided by a memory, 394 00:21:47.720 --> 00:21:49.440 the memory being programmed by. 395 00:21:49.440 --> 00:21:52.800 I mean, there's a lot of details that have to be in there. 396 00:21:52.840 --> 00:21:56.720 You can't just say arm picks up object, arm let go object, 397 00:21:56.720 --> 00:21:59.520 object picked up, object let go. 398 00:21:59.520 --> 00:22:02.360 No, you're never going to get a patent for that. 399 00:22:02.360 --> 00:22:06.000 So you need a lot more details for that. 400 00:22:06.000 --> 00:22:10.480 Patents tend to be one of the more complicated areas 401 00:22:10.480 --> 00:22:11.000 of the law. 402 00:22:14.120 --> 00:22:17.960 There are things called patent agents. 403 00:22:17.960 --> 00:22:19.440 Patent agents are phenomenal. 404 00:22:19.440 --> 00:22:21.560 They can work with the United States Patent Trademark 405 00:22:21.600 --> 00:22:22.200 Office. 406 00:22:22.200 --> 00:22:24.320 What they can't do is write legal opinions, 407 00:22:24.320 --> 00:22:27.600 because legal opinions are legal documents. 408 00:22:27.600 --> 00:22:29.520 Attorneys need to do those. 409 00:22:29.520 --> 00:22:31.880 That doesn't mean they don't do a first draft 410 00:22:31.880 --> 00:22:35.080 and give it to somebody, because I've seen that all the time. 411 00:22:35.080 --> 00:22:37.560 But an attorney needs to review that thing. 412 00:22:37.560 --> 00:22:41.520 So as an example, the IP audits that we do, 413 00:22:41.520 --> 00:22:44.240 one of the reasons why I do them is because I'm an attorney. 414 00:22:44.240 --> 00:22:45.000 I'm a litigator. 415 00:22:45.000 --> 00:22:46.320 I'm a prosecutor. 416 00:22:46.320 --> 00:22:48.920 I'm a trademark lawyer, copyright patent lawyer, 417 00:22:48.920 --> 00:22:50.280 do all those things. 418 00:22:50.280 --> 00:22:53.280 This way, it's easier for me to do an audit. 419 00:22:53.280 --> 00:22:55.080 All right, let me step back, because that's 420 00:22:55.080 --> 00:22:58.240 really deep, complex stuff that we just 421 00:22:58.240 --> 00:22:59.200 finished talking about. 422 00:22:59.200 --> 00:23:02.720 So I want to step back from that for a little bit. 423 00:23:02.720 --> 00:23:06.600 And I'm going to go back into trademarks for a second, 424 00:23:06.600 --> 00:23:09.520 because I had a number of people asking questions 425 00:23:09.520 --> 00:23:11.720 in the trademark area. 426 00:23:11.720 --> 00:23:13.760 And one of the questions they were asking a lot 427 00:23:13.760 --> 00:23:17.200 was, I search for my company. 428 00:23:17.200 --> 00:23:19.440 And one of the words that's in my company, 429 00:23:19.440 --> 00:23:21.640 somebody owns a patent for. 430 00:23:21.640 --> 00:23:24.640 Can I continue using my name? 431 00:23:24.640 --> 00:23:30.880 OK, so this is not legal advice. 432 00:23:30.880 --> 00:23:33.320 Peter owns a patent or owns a trademark? 433 00:23:33.320 --> 00:23:33.960 Trademark. 434 00:23:33.960 --> 00:23:37.800 We're talking about trademarks right now. 435 00:23:37.800 --> 00:23:42.000 All right, so again, there's a name. 436 00:23:42.000 --> 00:23:45.440 The name that I'm using has two words in it. 437 00:23:45.440 --> 00:23:48.920 Somebody else has a federally registered trademark 438 00:23:48.920 --> 00:23:51.720 that has one of the names. 439 00:23:51.720 --> 00:23:53.640 Is that a problem? 440 00:23:53.640 --> 00:23:55.720 I've had that question multiple times. 441 00:23:55.720 --> 00:24:00.600 So actually, let's have some fun here. 442 00:24:00.600 --> 00:24:04.040 Does anybody want to take a chance 443 00:24:04.040 --> 00:24:07.480 at answering that question by a show of hands? 444 00:24:07.480 --> 00:24:08.720 Anybody want to answer that? 445 00:24:12.920 --> 00:24:13.840 Bueller? 446 00:24:13.840 --> 00:24:15.080 Go Sonia. 447 00:24:15.080 --> 00:24:16.200 Sonia does. 448 00:24:16.200 --> 00:24:16.800 Jackie. 449 00:24:16.800 --> 00:24:17.680 Jackie. 450 00:24:17.680 --> 00:24:18.400 Jackie? 451 00:24:18.400 --> 00:24:19.680 I think she raised her hand. 452 00:24:19.680 --> 00:24:21.760 Either she did a hallelujah or she raised her hand. 453 00:24:21.760 --> 00:24:22.280 One or two. 454 00:24:22.280 --> 00:24:23.880 So all right, cool. 455 00:24:23.880 --> 00:24:26.880 All right, let's unmute her. 456 00:24:26.880 --> 00:24:28.240 OK, can you hear me? 457 00:24:28.240 --> 00:24:29.600 Yes, yes. 458 00:24:29.600 --> 00:24:33.320 So the scenario is you have a trademark 459 00:24:33.320 --> 00:24:36.160 that has two names, two words. 460 00:24:36.160 --> 00:24:38.760 And when you do a search, you see a federal registration 461 00:24:38.760 --> 00:24:40.760 including one of those words. 462 00:24:40.760 --> 00:24:42.960 Houston, we have a problem. 463 00:24:42.960 --> 00:24:44.720 Boom. 464 00:24:44.720 --> 00:24:46.280 That's exactly right. 465 00:24:46.280 --> 00:24:48.120 Houston, we have a problem. 466 00:24:49.120 --> 00:24:49.720 That's it. 467 00:24:49.720 --> 00:24:50.720 Well done, my friend. 468 00:24:50.720 --> 00:24:51.560 Well done. 469 00:24:51.560 --> 00:24:54.800 So this is where it gets tricky. 470 00:24:54.800 --> 00:25:01.120 Because let's say you've been using it 10 years. 471 00:25:00.000 --> 00:25:03.040 and you finally did a search and you find out, 472 00:25:03.040 --> 00:25:05.240 well, they've been using it for three years. 473 00:25:05.240 --> 00:25:08.120 Well, again, you have common law rights, right? 474 00:25:08.120 --> 00:25:11.760 So you can technically continue using it 475 00:25:11.760 --> 00:25:13.560 in a specific geographical reasons 476 00:25:13.560 --> 00:25:15.260 where you already have been using it 477 00:25:15.260 --> 00:25:17.020 and nobody could stop you 478 00:25:17.020 --> 00:25:19.320 because you have preemptive rights. 479 00:25:22.600 --> 00:25:24.600 The tricky part about this is, 480 00:25:25.600 --> 00:25:27.300 should you communicate with the party 481 00:25:27.300 --> 00:25:29.440 who has the federal registration? 482 00:25:29.440 --> 00:25:34.440 And like, kind of get more in their face about this. 483 00:25:34.880 --> 00:25:37.980 Meaning, hey guys, this is the name I have. 484 00:25:37.980 --> 00:25:39.600 You have one of these words in there. 485 00:25:39.600 --> 00:25:41.140 I think it's a problem. 486 00:25:41.140 --> 00:25:44.360 I want you out of my geographical regions, right? 487 00:25:44.360 --> 00:25:47.900 Like, should you get, should you back, 488 00:25:47.900 --> 00:25:52.780 should you be more proactive with your IP rights, okay? 489 00:25:55.780 --> 00:25:57.300 This is a tricky area, guys. 490 00:25:57.300 --> 00:25:59.080 This is a really tricky area. 491 00:25:59.520 --> 00:26:01.480 See, the problem is you never know 492 00:26:01.480 --> 00:26:05.000 how somebody is gonna respond when you reach out to them. 493 00:26:05.000 --> 00:26:07.520 You do know that you've been practicing for 10 years 494 00:26:07.520 --> 00:26:08.840 and nobody's bothered you. 495 00:26:10.480 --> 00:26:12.880 Now, all of a sudden you find out about this other party 496 00:26:12.880 --> 00:26:15.200 and you're thinking you might reach out to them and say, 497 00:26:15.200 --> 00:26:18.380 hey, you've only been using it for three years. 498 00:26:19.680 --> 00:26:21.360 That's not fair. 499 00:26:21.360 --> 00:26:24.680 And so I want you to stop. 500 00:26:24.680 --> 00:26:28.200 They may respond with, oh goodness, I'm sorry. 501 00:26:29.040 --> 00:26:32.040 Or they may respond with, I've got a federal registration. 502 00:26:32.040 --> 00:26:33.080 I want you to prove to me 503 00:26:33.080 --> 00:26:35.040 that you've been using it for 10 years. 504 00:26:38.960 --> 00:26:40.440 It's a really tricky question. 505 00:26:40.440 --> 00:26:42.560 I would talk to a lawyer about that. 506 00:26:42.560 --> 00:26:43.880 I'm responding to that here 507 00:26:43.880 --> 00:26:47.920 because more than one person here has raised this issue. 508 00:26:47.920 --> 00:26:52.280 I would talk to a lawyer about your exact scenario and see. 509 00:26:53.320 --> 00:26:55.520 Because the concern that the people had 510 00:26:55.560 --> 00:26:58.440 was specifically that other party 511 00:26:58.440 --> 00:26:59.840 is gonna take more market share. 512 00:26:59.840 --> 00:27:01.360 They're using my name. 513 00:27:01.360 --> 00:27:02.640 I've been using it for 10 years. 514 00:27:02.640 --> 00:27:04.640 They've been using it for three years. 515 00:27:04.640 --> 00:27:06.080 I wanna stop them. 516 00:27:06.080 --> 00:27:07.960 I didn't know I could file 517 00:27:07.960 --> 00:27:10.400 a federal trademark application. 518 00:27:10.400 --> 00:27:12.360 I was using a Circle R. 519 00:27:12.360 --> 00:27:13.840 I changed it to a TM. 520 00:27:13.840 --> 00:27:15.760 They've got the Circle R. 521 00:27:15.760 --> 00:27:16.640 What should I do? 522 00:27:18.280 --> 00:27:22.800 And I think it's honestly gonna depend upon the parties. 523 00:27:22.800 --> 00:27:23.840 Like who are you dealing with? 524 00:27:23.880 --> 00:27:25.760 Are you dealing with a McDonald's? 525 00:27:25.760 --> 00:27:27.560 In which case, they're gonna sue you. 526 00:27:27.560 --> 00:27:28.880 The second you reach out to them, 527 00:27:28.880 --> 00:27:30.360 they don't care what your legal rights are. 528 00:27:30.360 --> 00:27:32.240 They're gonna sue you. 529 00:27:32.240 --> 00:27:35.960 Or is a situation where you're instead, 530 00:27:37.560 --> 00:27:39.240 you may be able to stop them. 531 00:27:39.240 --> 00:27:42.200 So I would talk to a lawyer, honestly. 532 00:27:42.200 --> 00:27:43.640 I would just be careful. 533 00:27:43.640 --> 00:27:45.760 Before you start sending out cease and desist letters 534 00:27:45.760 --> 00:27:47.640 or suing people or doing any of that, 535 00:27:48.560 --> 00:27:52.040 I would definitely speak to a lawyer. 536 00:27:53.840 --> 00:27:56.320 All right, let me take, 537 00:27:56.320 --> 00:27:58.320 I'm gonna take two questions. 538 00:27:59.200 --> 00:28:02.160 And then I'm gonna finish up with something else over here. 539 00:28:10.200 --> 00:28:13.600 See, is there anybody who has not asked a question yet? 540 00:28:13.600 --> 00:28:17.400 I think everybody here has asked at least one question. 541 00:28:17.400 --> 00:28:20.720 So yeah, okay, cool. 542 00:28:20.720 --> 00:28:23.280 So since everybody has, let me go over to, 543 00:28:23.720 --> 00:28:25.520 Sonya, go right ahead. 544 00:28:25.520 --> 00:28:26.440 How are you? 545 00:28:28.240 --> 00:28:29.400 Great. 546 00:28:29.400 --> 00:28:30.240 Good, good. 547 00:28:30.240 --> 00:28:31.880 That's why I'm drinking wine, 548 00:28:31.880 --> 00:28:34.240 because the decision is made in wine. 549 00:28:35.520 --> 00:28:37.600 It's Friday night and I just got paid. 550 00:28:37.600 --> 00:28:39.240 Yep, that's you. 551 00:28:39.240 --> 00:28:40.080 Go ahead. 552 00:28:40.960 --> 00:28:43.720 No, I actually had to keep a clear mind the last day 553 00:28:43.720 --> 00:28:45.920 so that I wouldn't make a decision I didn't wanna make. 554 00:28:45.920 --> 00:28:48.240 So since I already made a decision this morning, 555 00:28:48.240 --> 00:28:50.600 I'm having wine tonight, so. 556 00:28:50.600 --> 00:28:52.000 Very good, very good. 557 00:28:52.880 --> 00:28:55.080 So it's a super quick question 558 00:28:55.080 --> 00:28:59.720 just to the situation that you just highlighted. 559 00:28:59.720 --> 00:29:03.440 Because I'm in a situation where both words 560 00:29:03.440 --> 00:29:05.800 of what I looked up is being used, 561 00:29:06.640 --> 00:29:10.120 but in a different, like in the opposite. 562 00:29:12.120 --> 00:29:15.240 Well, the first word that I'm using is the second word 563 00:29:15.240 --> 00:29:16.520 and the second word is the first, 564 00:29:16.520 --> 00:29:19.480 which makes it a different meaning. 565 00:29:20.480 --> 00:29:22.440 All right, say that again. 566 00:29:22.440 --> 00:29:23.560 Okay. 567 00:29:23.560 --> 00:29:26.920 So what I looked up is also two words 568 00:29:26.920 --> 00:29:30.880 and both words have a trademark, 569 00:29:32.520 --> 00:29:34.840 but the words were the other way around, 570 00:29:34.840 --> 00:29:36.680 the way it showed up, which makes- 571 00:29:36.680 --> 00:29:37.520 Oh, okay. 572 00:29:37.520 --> 00:29:38.840 So it's like backwards? 573 00:29:38.840 --> 00:29:39.680 Yeah. 574 00:29:39.680 --> 00:29:40.800 Okay. 575 00:29:40.800 --> 00:29:43.240 Which makes the meaning of the whole phrase 576 00:29:43.240 --> 00:29:44.440 completely different. 577 00:29:46.840 --> 00:29:47.680 Okay. 578 00:29:47.960 --> 00:29:48.800 Okay. 579 00:29:48.800 --> 00:29:51.280 And so somebody has a federal registration 580 00:29:51.280 --> 00:29:53.600 for the two words, but in a different order? 581 00:29:53.600 --> 00:29:54.440 Yeah. 582 00:29:56.240 --> 00:29:57.080 Yeah, that is- 583 00:30:00.000 --> 00:30:01.560 Go to the audit. 584 00:30:01.560 --> 00:30:03.280 Not the best. 585 00:30:03.280 --> 00:30:03.920 Yeah. 586 00:30:03.920 --> 00:30:04.480 Do the audit. 587 00:30:04.480 --> 00:30:06.840 Is it the same class or is it a different class? 588 00:30:06.840 --> 00:30:08.800 That's the question I would ask. 589 00:30:08.800 --> 00:30:11.480 Yeah, the situation she's talking about 590 00:30:11.480 --> 00:30:13.840 is where there's similar services. 591 00:30:13.840 --> 00:30:16.320 So yeah. 592 00:30:16.320 --> 00:30:20.960 So yeah, I would definitely analyze this scenario. 593 00:30:20.960 --> 00:30:23.880 You can do that in the audit and break it down. 594 00:30:23.880 --> 00:30:26.920 But it's not the best scenario. 595 00:30:26.920 --> 00:30:28.240 There's ways around it. 596 00:30:28.240 --> 00:30:29.920 There's ways around it. 597 00:30:29.920 --> 00:30:31.200 Because I mean, think about it. 598 00:30:31.200 --> 00:30:33.240 Commercial impression is a big part, right? 599 00:30:33.240 --> 00:30:38.480 So if it's running fast and fast running, 600 00:30:38.480 --> 00:30:40.840 it's the same commercial impression, right? 601 00:30:40.840 --> 00:30:42.720 But there's more things. 602 00:30:42.720 --> 00:30:44.640 There's more factors to look at. 603 00:30:44.640 --> 00:30:45.640 And we can do that. 604 00:30:45.640 --> 00:30:47.080 We can break that down. 605 00:30:47.080 --> 00:30:47.960 Awesome. 606 00:30:47.960 --> 00:30:48.760 Yeah. 607 00:30:48.760 --> 00:30:50.160 But it's a really good question. 608 00:30:50.160 --> 00:30:52.840 I mean, the thing that I'm seeing 609 00:30:52.840 --> 00:30:56.800 is people have like three names, like three words within a name. 610 00:30:56.800 --> 00:30:59.360 And they find out one of the words is owned by somebody. 611 00:30:59.360 --> 00:31:01.080 What do they do? 612 00:31:01.080 --> 00:31:02.080 And it gets tricky. 613 00:31:02.080 --> 00:31:05.080 Because if somebody owns Microsoft 614 00:31:05.080 --> 00:31:11.080 and you have something like fiery glow Microsoft, 615 00:31:11.080 --> 00:31:13.880 I guarantee you Microsoft's going to sue you. 616 00:31:13.880 --> 00:31:15.440 They don't care that it's three words. 617 00:31:15.440 --> 00:31:16.800 They don't care if it's 10 words. 618 00:31:16.800 --> 00:31:18.760 You have their word. 619 00:31:18.760 --> 00:31:20.200 Nuclear bomb. 620 00:31:20.200 --> 00:31:22.280 So we'll dig into your stuff in more detail. 621 00:31:22.280 --> 00:31:23.280 Don't worry about it. 622 00:31:23.280 --> 00:31:24.280 Thank you. 623 00:31:24.280 --> 00:31:24.880 All right. 624 00:31:24.880 --> 00:31:27.880 Linda. 625 00:31:27.880 --> 00:31:29.000 How are you, Linda? 626 00:31:32.240 --> 00:31:33.440 You are muted, my dear. 627 00:31:33.440 --> 00:31:34.400 I'm muted, my friend. 628 00:31:38.600 --> 00:31:42.160 I was typing in the chat. 629 00:31:42.160 --> 00:31:43.760 I asked a question yesterday. 630 00:31:43.760 --> 00:31:46.120 And you said you were going to cover it today. 631 00:31:46.120 --> 00:31:47.040 And it was regarding. 632 00:31:47.040 --> 00:31:48.400 About copyright. 633 00:31:48.400 --> 00:31:49.960 Right, yeah, the copyright. 634 00:31:49.960 --> 00:31:55.480 And my concern was what things I could 635 00:31:55.480 --> 00:31:58.000 excerpt from other people's books or such 636 00:31:58.000 --> 00:32:02.200 and put it into my own book or in my teaching. 637 00:32:02.200 --> 00:32:07.200 And does a citation just work? 638 00:32:07.200 --> 00:32:12.840 And how much can you put in, like a chapter? 639 00:32:12.840 --> 00:32:17.680 So it's very situation specific, quite frankly. 640 00:32:18.680 --> 00:32:20.720 There's no universal rule on this. 641 00:32:20.720 --> 00:32:22.760 It's more how much you. 642 00:32:25.480 --> 00:32:27.440 It's not even how much you're using. 643 00:32:27.440 --> 00:32:30.560 Because if you're taking the essence of somebody's copyright, 644 00:32:30.560 --> 00:32:33.360 that's enough to be doing copyright infringement. 645 00:32:33.360 --> 00:32:36.600 But if you're using it for newsworthy purposes, 646 00:32:36.600 --> 00:32:39.760 like something that recently happened, that's one thing. 647 00:32:39.760 --> 00:32:45.320 If it's like an article that's being provided in college, 648 00:32:45.320 --> 00:32:48.160 then you could always cite to somebody else's work 649 00:32:48.160 --> 00:32:50.080 in your article. 650 00:32:50.080 --> 00:32:51.600 Those things are OK. 651 00:32:51.600 --> 00:32:53.960 But once you start making money, once you 652 00:32:53.960 --> 00:32:57.800 start adding this idea of I've got a book 653 00:32:57.800 --> 00:33:00.360 and I'm quoting somebody else, and that quote 654 00:33:00.360 --> 00:33:02.920 increases the value of my book, that's 655 00:33:02.920 --> 00:33:07.280 when you really need an analysis of exactly what you're doing. 656 00:33:07.280 --> 00:33:09.640 And how much of the quote are you grabbing? 657 00:33:09.640 --> 00:33:11.240 Is it the essence of their work? 658 00:33:11.240 --> 00:33:13.400 And now that you've grabbed the essence of the work, 659 00:33:13.400 --> 00:33:14.440 that increases your value. 660 00:33:18.000 --> 00:33:21.120 Fair use is a really nasty area. 661 00:33:21.120 --> 00:33:24.600 It's very, very messy. 662 00:33:24.600 --> 00:33:26.720 For news reporters, it's easy. 663 00:33:26.720 --> 00:33:29.360 News reporters, something just happened. 664 00:33:29.360 --> 00:33:30.720 They put it in the paper. 665 00:33:30.720 --> 00:33:31.960 Somebody just said something. 666 00:33:31.960 --> 00:33:34.320 It pertains to what just happened just now. 667 00:33:34.320 --> 00:33:36.040 They get away with it all day long. 668 00:33:36.040 --> 00:33:37.480 They have no issues. 669 00:33:37.480 --> 00:33:40.160 The problem is most of us are not in news reporting. 670 00:33:40.160 --> 00:33:43.520 Most of us have had time to digest things, 671 00:33:43.520 --> 00:33:46.680 figure out if we add certain things in a certain sequence, 672 00:33:46.680 --> 00:33:48.600 does that increase my value? 673 00:33:48.600 --> 00:33:50.920 And will it make people buy my book more? 674 00:33:50.920 --> 00:33:54.040 And so for that reason, you really 675 00:33:54.040 --> 00:33:56.760 want to have somebody look at your specific scenario 676 00:33:56.760 --> 00:34:01.760 and see, does it truly fall into a fair use thing? 677 00:34:01.760 --> 00:34:08.040 And so what I'll do, Ray, I see you laughing nonstop 678 00:34:08.040 --> 00:34:09.760 this entire session. 679 00:34:10.360 --> 00:34:12.600 I don't know what you're doing behind me. 680 00:34:12.600 --> 00:34:16.040 I have no idea, but I'm starting to get afraid. 681 00:34:16.040 --> 00:34:19.480 Oh, I'm waking up. 682 00:34:19.480 --> 00:34:22.199 So can you just DM me? 683 00:34:22.199 --> 00:34:28.120 I'm going to list the factors tonight in the Facebook group. 684 00:34:28.120 --> 00:34:32.639 I'll list the factors and what each factor is. 685 00:34:32.639 --> 00:34:34.920 It's just, I mean, to be honest, Linda, 686 00:34:34.920 --> 00:34:39.719 it's a tricky area of law where people get sued all the time. 687 00:34:40.679 --> 00:34:44.320 And so what I tend to tell people 688 00:34:44.320 --> 00:34:46.960 is get all of your stuff together 689 00:34:46.960 --> 00:34:49.199 and then sit down with an attorney and say, OK, look, 690 00:34:49.199 --> 00:34:50.000 this is what I got. 691 00:34:50.000 --> 00:34:50.920 This is what I quoted. 692 00:34:50.920 --> 00:34:53.159 This is what's in my side. 693 00:34:53.159 --> 00:34:54.400 Is this OK? 694 00:34:54.400 --> 00:34:55.679 And they'll tell you yes or no. 695 00:34:55.679 --> 00:34:58.000 They should be able to look at it pretty fast 696 00:34:58.000 --> 00:35:00.920 and say, is this OK, this is not. 697 00:35:00.000 --> 00:35:04.920 See, in the audit, we can look at it really fast and we can say yes or no really fast. 698 00:35:04.920 --> 00:35:12.360 Um, but the, but separate from that, it would, it would literally be legal advice. You'd be looking at legal advice. 699 00:35:12.360 --> 00:35:18.840 And so I'll, I'll put tonight the factors and I'll put the criteria for the factors. 700 00:35:18.840 --> 00:35:23.280 In the Facebook group, and then you guys can take a look at that and kind of. 701 00:35:24.120 --> 00:35:27.560 At least know what the barriers are. 702 00:35:27.560 --> 00:35:31.560 Because fair use is a very dangerous area. 703 00:35:31.560 --> 00:35:34.280 I'm trying to use fair use. 704 00:35:34.280 --> 00:35:39.600 You like, that means you're already committing copyright infringement. Now, if you're just. 705 00:35:39.600 --> 00:35:45.480 Typically, if you're just taking a statement from somebody and it's not the essence of their copyrighted work. 706 00:35:45.480 --> 00:35:48.240 I've seen people do that all the time and they don't get in trouble. 707 00:35:48.480 --> 00:35:55.080 You know, um, but when you start grabbing a decent amount of material from somebody's copyrighted work. 708 00:35:55.080 --> 00:35:59.320 That's when the other party gets upset because. 709 00:35:59.320 --> 00:36:04.000 They're not getting royalties, you know, like, I can write a book today. 710 00:36:04.000 --> 00:36:14.760 I can take a book by, I don't know who, like, let's say by Greg Cardone or somebody like that. And I can take that book and analyze the whole book and write my own book. 711 00:36:15.120 --> 00:36:21.120 And keep quoting him, like, he says on page, blah, blah, blah, this is what happens is this. 712 00:36:21.120 --> 00:36:27.000 This is what happens, like, literally, I can break down every single part of it 1 by 1 and. 713 00:36:27.000 --> 00:36:32.280 I can get in trouble for that. So, um, hold on 1 second. 714 00:36:37.000 --> 00:36:44.360 Okay, all right, so let me go to Sean, so I'll, I'll drop the factors so you can see it. 715 00:36:44.480 --> 00:36:50.040 Okay, then you can, you can make an analysis based on that, but I would touch base with an attorney. 716 00:36:50.040 --> 00:36:53.000 Okay, Sean, you are up. 717 00:36:53.000 --> 00:36:59.760 Go ahead, she there. 718 00:36:59.760 --> 00:37:09.360 Hello, hello, Greg, I'm going to make it earlier tonight. I mean, this week, but thank you for. 719 00:37:09.480 --> 00:37:17.360 Answering me, I thought I was going to ask 1 question, but now after you talked about Linda's, I don't know, maybe I have a totally different 1. 720 00:37:17.360 --> 00:37:31.920 As if I'm certified under someone else and my method includes partly a thing that I invented, but part of it is based on her work. 721 00:37:31.920 --> 00:37:39.240 And I call it her work when I'm talking about my model, I've got my part of it and her part of it. 722 00:37:39.280 --> 00:37:53.720 So, I don't know, I never really thought so much about how tricky that is, what you're talking about is very complex because there's licensing issues, there's ownership of new creative work issues, there's derivative issues. 723 00:37:54.240 --> 00:38:05.080 There's you need to do the audit, I mean, I paid a lot to be certified under her and we have, we have the right to teach that work and a lot of people write about it in their own way. 724 00:38:05.480 --> 00:38:09.960 So, I'm not sure if any of them ever got sued, it's worth looking into. 725 00:38:10.480 --> 00:38:18.560 Okay, I don't know if I can tell you this, looking at looking at other people and saying, well, they didn't get sued, so I can do it. 726 00:38:18.840 --> 00:38:26.440 Yeah, not a good, not a good business plan, that's not a business plan I would follow. 727 00:38:26.440 --> 00:38:48.000 I mean, I have represented individuals and corporations, large and small, who thought to themselves, well, everybody else is doing it, and then I got to come in and save them, you know, and so, I mean, one of my clients, one of the ones in Massachusetts, the last major litigation I was in was in five years long, it was patent litigation. 728 00:38:48.000 --> 00:39:17.840 Started out in California, they sued my client in California, under the TC Hartland case, I had the case transferred to Massachusetts Federal District Court, one of the first cases ever transferred under TC Hartland, one that really got opposing counsel mad, because what people will do to try to make your life difficult in patent litigation is they'll sue you, they'll try to see you in a place that's very inconvenient. 729 00:39:18.320 --> 00:39:37.600 And so now you're spending a lot of money on lawyers, your own local counsel, plus another attorney who's who's in that courtroom, and I mean, it gets, you can double what you need to spend, and then the result is we had to transfer to Massachusetts, after four years, I end up winning the case. 730 00:39:38.880 --> 00:39:44.560 But I mean, all that basically to say there were other people doing it too, they just chose to sue my client. 731 00:39:45.280 --> 00:39:50.400 And we won. But in the long run, they spent one. No, they spent 732 00:39:52.280 --> 00:39:54.960 $3.2 million getting out of lawsuit. 733 00:39:56.640 --> 00:39:57.200 So, 734 00:39:57.840 --> 00:40:00.000 It occurs to me that if I'm if I'm 735 00:40:00.000 --> 00:40:05.920 writing about it, maybe what I need to do is just run the manuscript by them and get their 736 00:40:05.920 --> 00:40:12.400 permission to use it. Because I know they like having it disseminated, but I also don't know 737 00:40:13.040 --> 00:40:19.840 at what point do you cross the line. Being certified means I'm supposed to be able to go 738 00:40:19.840 --> 00:40:26.080 out and make money using this method, but to write about it and then disseminate it in a little bit 739 00:40:26.080 --> 00:40:38.240 of a different way with my own interpretation. The other question was really quick about copyright 740 00:40:38.240 --> 00:40:45.520 and you had at one moment you said you could do it for your company but license it to yourself. 741 00:40:46.720 --> 00:40:50.800 Because I'm trying to make decisions about whether to copyright it in the name of me or 742 00:40:50.800 --> 00:40:56.720 the name of my company. The problem is the name of my company might change. We're not totally set 743 00:40:56.720 --> 00:41:01.840 on it. So if you copyright or trademark something in the name of a company and then that company 744 00:41:01.840 --> 00:41:07.680 name changes, is that just sort of what happens then? 745 00:41:10.800 --> 00:41:16.320 Well, there's a thing called ownership of rights and again, Sean, I can't stress it enough. 746 00:41:16.320 --> 00:41:20.640 You need an IP audit. You're in a lot of dangerous areas that you're dabbling 747 00:41:21.200 --> 00:41:26.880 and you're asking generic questions to very specific situations that can be very dangerous. 748 00:41:27.520 --> 00:41:33.680 Yeah, I hear that. I'm definitely gonna. But let me just kind of talk to you about what's 749 00:41:33.680 --> 00:41:38.320 called assignments because I think everybody can learn from this. So there's this thing called 750 00:41:38.320 --> 00:41:47.520 assignment of all right title and interest, right? I talked to you guys about you have something 751 00:41:47.520 --> 00:41:53.840 in your name and you assign all right title interest to a company or you have a situation where 752 00:41:55.360 --> 00:42:01.680 you go to let's say a software developer. They create the software and you have them assign 753 00:42:01.680 --> 00:42:06.080 all right title and interest over to you, right? So that's how you get the rights to 754 00:42:06.720 --> 00:42:12.640 whatever it is. Now, let's say that you assign all your right title and interest to company ABC. 755 00:42:13.680 --> 00:42:21.360 Well, company ABC could be acquired by company 123. And if it's acquired by company 123, 756 00:42:22.080 --> 00:42:27.280 there's usually some kind of merger or acquisition document that says they're assigning all right 757 00:42:27.280 --> 00:42:35.040 title and interest of all the IP over the company 123, right? So you could have 758 00:42:36.320 --> 00:42:41.840 IP rights go from individuals to companies, companies to companies, individuals, 759 00:42:41.840 --> 00:42:46.240 the companies, the individuals, like companies, the individuals, like you do whatever you want. 760 00:42:46.960 --> 00:42:52.480 It's just an asset that you're transferring from one party to another. You've just got to be very, 761 00:42:52.480 --> 00:43:00.320 very careful, very, very careful in that some of the agreements of companies will specifically 762 00:43:00.320 --> 00:43:06.480 talk about the IP rights and what happens to the IP rights if the company is acquired 763 00:43:07.680 --> 00:43:17.280 or anything like that. So you need to know that beforehand. So you can't assign copyrights to 764 00:43:17.280 --> 00:43:23.760 company ABC if the legal agreement with company 123 that you work for says that you can't assign 765 00:43:23.760 --> 00:43:29.440 the rights. And there's also things called employee agreements, which we talk about in the portal, 766 00:43:30.000 --> 00:43:35.280 where an individual has an obligation to assign all right title and interest to the company. 767 00:43:36.080 --> 00:43:41.680 And now they're out there selling the IP rights to somebody else. They just violated an employee 768 00:43:41.680 --> 00:43:47.120 agreement. So now they can be sued on their contracts. It's a violation of an employee 769 00:43:47.120 --> 00:43:52.720 agreement, which is a contractual obligation. They can be sued on their employment law and contract 770 00:43:52.720 --> 00:44:01.120 law. And I'm telling you, it is a minefield. So this is why you guys like don't dabble in this 771 00:44:01.120 --> 00:44:08.480 area that none of this is legal advice. Like I'm telling you guys, I am just what I'm doing is I'm 772 00:44:08.480 --> 00:44:16.080 flagging the issues for you. So you understand that these things are tricky. And so there are 773 00:44:16.080 --> 00:44:22.880 areas that are simple, but you can go online and do a quick trademark search yourself. I taught you 774 00:44:22.880 --> 00:44:27.840 guys how to do that. But at the end of the day, the reason why you're doing that trademark search 775 00:44:28.560 --> 00:44:33.600 is so that you can decrease the number of trademarks that you present to your attorney. 776 00:44:33.600 --> 00:44:38.320 So you had 10 ideas, you brought it down to two or one, you bring those two or one to the 777 00:44:38.320 --> 00:44:47.120 attorneys, you're spending 10% to 20% of what you would have spent before. Right? That is tremendous 778 00:44:47.120 --> 00:44:53.440 savings. And if you do that consistently, as a business owner, you're going to do very well 779 00:44:53.440 --> 00:44:58.080 because you can use the money that you would have spent on certain things for legal services, 780 00:44:58.080 --> 00:44:59.760 you can use it for getting clients. 781 00:45:00.000 --> 00:45:03.520 marketing, you know, working for the company, 782 00:45:03.520 --> 00:45:05.720 like merchandise, whatever you want. 783 00:45:06.700 --> 00:45:10.780 But in your case, Sean, do an audit. 784 00:45:10.780 --> 00:45:14.080 I'm telling you, you have too many things, 785 00:45:14.080 --> 00:45:16.040 things that are jumping up from what you're talking about 786 00:45:16.040 --> 00:45:17.960 from assignment issues to license issues, 787 00:45:17.960 --> 00:45:22.960 to certification issues, contractual obligations, 788 00:45:23.260 --> 00:45:24.760 employee issues. 789 00:45:24.760 --> 00:45:27.260 I mean, there's so many things. 790 00:45:27.260 --> 00:45:29.840 There's so many red flags going off when you speak. 791 00:45:31.300 --> 00:45:34.060 And that's partially because you're smart, obviously. 792 00:45:34.060 --> 00:45:35.960 So you have a lot of opportunities. 793 00:45:35.960 --> 00:45:40.100 So I give you credit in that clearly you're intelligent 794 00:45:40.100 --> 00:45:41.700 because you have all these opportunities, 795 00:45:41.700 --> 00:45:43.940 but you need to do an audit. 796 00:45:43.940 --> 00:45:46.100 So, all right, let me take one more question. 797 00:45:46.100 --> 00:45:49.540 Anne Marie, I don't think we've taken a question from you. 798 00:45:51.900 --> 00:45:53.020 Nope, you haven't. 799 00:45:53.020 --> 00:45:53.860 So this is my- 800 00:45:53.860 --> 00:45:55.080 Awesome. 801 00:45:55.080 --> 00:45:55.920 Here it goes. 802 00:45:56.240 --> 00:45:57.320 Here it goes. 803 00:45:57.320 --> 00:45:58.160 Here it goes. 804 00:45:58.160 --> 00:45:59.000 Here it goes. 805 00:45:59.000 --> 00:45:59.820 Here it goes. 806 00:45:59.820 --> 00:46:00.660 Oh. 807 00:46:00.660 --> 00:46:04.480 Shauna is talking about stuff that I'm trying to prevent. 808 00:46:04.480 --> 00:46:07.080 So I'm one of those lucky few, I guess, 809 00:46:07.080 --> 00:46:09.080 that are starting from scratch. 810 00:46:09.080 --> 00:46:09.920 Yes. 811 00:46:09.920 --> 00:46:14.160 Done independent work for other people, 812 00:46:14.160 --> 00:46:16.880 but I haven't really formalized anything. 813 00:46:16.880 --> 00:46:18.800 And now I'm being offered, 814 00:46:18.800 --> 00:46:21.640 you and I talked at the conference quickly 815 00:46:21.640 --> 00:46:24.040 about who wants to do a spinoff 816 00:46:24.880 --> 00:46:27.040 and then give it to me when he retires. 817 00:46:27.040 --> 00:46:31.680 But to me, that just sounds wasteful and a big mess. 818 00:46:31.680 --> 00:46:36.360 So I've been working for him. 819 00:46:36.360 --> 00:46:37.880 Things are blowing up for him. 820 00:46:37.880 --> 00:46:38.720 He's very happy. 821 00:46:38.720 --> 00:46:42.120 He wanted me to do faith-based focus 822 00:46:42.120 --> 00:46:44.660 because he sees that's where the favor is. 823 00:46:45.640 --> 00:46:50.640 Wants to set up a business, make me the face of it. 824 00:46:51.320 --> 00:46:52.160 Nice. 825 00:46:52.160 --> 00:46:54.200 I don't want to be the face of anything. 826 00:46:54.200 --> 00:46:56.760 So I'm not paid to a day out. 827 00:46:56.760 --> 00:47:00.560 So I want a name, but I also want to do it right 828 00:47:00.560 --> 00:47:05.560 so that if he retires or something happens to him, 829 00:47:05.600 --> 00:47:07.400 I don't get caught in the IP issues 830 00:47:07.400 --> 00:47:08.320 that you're talking about, 831 00:47:08.320 --> 00:47:12.920 like disappearing or it being bought by somebody else 832 00:47:12.920 --> 00:47:14.760 and my stuff as well. 833 00:47:14.760 --> 00:47:15.600 Right. 834 00:47:15.600 --> 00:47:16.440 And having some- 835 00:47:16.440 --> 00:47:17.280 It's smart. 836 00:47:17.280 --> 00:47:18.120 It's smart. 837 00:47:18.120 --> 00:47:18.960 Yeah. 838 00:47:19.800 --> 00:47:20.640 Yeah. 839 00:47:20.640 --> 00:47:23.600 So, and I'm kind of already dealing 840 00:47:23.600 --> 00:47:25.360 with some of the stuff Sean was talking about, 841 00:47:25.360 --> 00:47:27.560 but in a much smaller way. 842 00:47:27.560 --> 00:47:30.040 And I don't want to do this wrong, 843 00:47:30.040 --> 00:47:31.640 especially if it's fake. 844 00:47:31.640 --> 00:47:32.480 We already have- 845 00:47:32.480 --> 00:47:34.000 It's, all right. 846 00:47:34.000 --> 00:47:35.400 So I'm just going to speak- 847 00:47:35.400 --> 00:47:36.240 Chico. 848 00:47:39.840 --> 00:47:40.800 What was that? 849 00:47:42.720 --> 00:47:43.960 Chico, what was that? 850 00:47:46.520 --> 00:47:47.360 Okay. 851 00:47:49.400 --> 00:47:51.200 This is when it starts to get interesting. 852 00:47:51.200 --> 00:47:53.520 Friday night, 9.23 PM. 853 00:47:54.520 --> 00:47:56.640 Other voices are speaking at this point. 854 00:47:56.640 --> 00:47:58.120 Hmm, Chico. 855 00:47:58.120 --> 00:47:58.960 All right. 856 00:47:58.960 --> 00:48:00.880 So with that being the case, 857 00:48:02.840 --> 00:48:06.280 let me walk through something. 858 00:48:07.840 --> 00:48:09.520 I got a really good example. 859 00:48:09.520 --> 00:48:11.480 I think it's going to help you. 860 00:48:11.480 --> 00:48:12.320 All right. 861 00:48:12.320 --> 00:48:15.520 There was this wonderful elderly gentleman, right? 862 00:48:16.600 --> 00:48:17.440 This was a long time ago. 863 00:48:17.720 --> 00:48:18.920 It was like 14 years ago. 864 00:48:18.920 --> 00:48:21.000 I think his name was Roger. 865 00:48:21.000 --> 00:48:22.040 Forgot his last name, 866 00:48:22.040 --> 00:48:25.440 but he was a prolific inventor, 867 00:48:25.440 --> 00:48:27.320 like always coming up with new ideas, 868 00:48:27.320 --> 00:48:28.840 always just brilliant, 869 00:48:28.840 --> 00:48:31.040 like scary brilliant, you know? 870 00:48:31.040 --> 00:48:34.280 And he was in his eighties though, right? 871 00:48:34.280 --> 00:48:36.360 Now he had a company 872 00:48:37.560 --> 00:48:40.080 and all the IP was in his name. 873 00:48:40.080 --> 00:48:42.200 Like everything was in his name 874 00:48:42.200 --> 00:48:44.520 because he was remarkably possessive. 875 00:48:45.560 --> 00:48:46.680 Like I would meet, 876 00:48:47.600 --> 00:48:50.040 I tried to send one of my associates to him 877 00:48:50.040 --> 00:48:52.160 and he wouldn't allow me to. 878 00:48:52.160 --> 00:48:55.200 He would make me drive an hour and a half to two hours 879 00:48:55.200 --> 00:48:59.480 to his house on the lake just to talk to him. 880 00:48:59.480 --> 00:49:01.520 And he says, I don't care what you build. 881 00:49:01.520 --> 00:49:02.360 I want to work with you. 882 00:49:02.360 --> 00:49:03.680 I don't even want to work with you. 883 00:49:03.680 --> 00:49:06.320 So I drive all the way out to him 884 00:49:06.320 --> 00:49:08.400 and he would literally just take out paper 885 00:49:08.400 --> 00:49:09.920 and he'd start sketching. 886 00:49:09.920 --> 00:49:10.960 I want to own this. 887 00:49:10.960 --> 00:49:12.080 And then he'd sketch something else. 888 00:49:12.080 --> 00:49:12.920 I want to own this. 889 00:49:12.920 --> 00:49:16.400 I mean, the guy, he's scary smart, you know? 890 00:49:17.440 --> 00:49:19.360 Now here's the problem. 891 00:49:19.360 --> 00:49:21.760 He had multiple sons. 892 00:49:21.760 --> 00:49:24.040 The sons knew he was getting older 893 00:49:24.040 --> 00:49:28.440 and they were concerned that if dad passed away 894 00:49:28.440 --> 00:49:31.760 what's going to happen to all the IP, right? 895 00:49:31.760 --> 00:49:32.680 That was the big issue. 896 00:49:32.680 --> 00:49:35.000 What's going to happen to all this IP? 897 00:49:35.000 --> 00:49:39.280 Because the kids were associated with the company 898 00:49:39.280 --> 00:49:44.280 but dad did not in the will and the trust that he created 899 00:49:46.680 --> 00:49:50.520 he didn't want to give the stuff to the kids. 900 00:49:51.400 --> 00:49:53.880 He wanted the kids to create their own thing 901 00:49:53.880 --> 00:49:55.960 create their own wealth, right? 902 00:49:55.960 --> 00:50:00.960 So what he did instead was he gave the IP to the kids. 903 00:50:00.000 --> 00:50:03.320 to the company and to, like, if he passed away, 904 00:50:03.320 --> 00:50:05.880 it was gonna go to the company and to the employees. 905 00:50:05.880 --> 00:50:07.520 So the employees would make a ton of money 906 00:50:07.520 --> 00:50:10.660 because he was very faithful to his employees. 907 00:50:10.660 --> 00:50:12.760 All right, so what does this have to do 908 00:50:12.760 --> 00:50:14.800 with what we're talking about here? 909 00:50:14.800 --> 00:50:17.720 The kids were going crazy and they tried calling me up 910 00:50:17.720 --> 00:50:20.520 saying, hey, look, we'll pay you whatever. 911 00:50:20.520 --> 00:50:21.360 Can you meet with us? 912 00:50:21.360 --> 00:50:22.360 I said, I can't meet with you 913 00:50:22.360 --> 00:50:24.360 because that's a conflict of interest. 914 00:50:24.360 --> 00:50:26.840 I represent your dad and I represent the company 915 00:50:26.840 --> 00:50:30.800 because the two are unified, right, in purpose, 916 00:50:30.800 --> 00:50:33.080 but you clearly are not unified in purpose. 917 00:50:33.080 --> 00:50:34.760 You wanna take over the IP rights. 918 00:50:34.760 --> 00:50:36.520 I can't meet with you. 919 00:50:36.520 --> 00:50:38.480 And they did all sorts of stuff 920 00:50:38.480 --> 00:50:40.400 to try to get me to meet with them, and I wouldn't. 921 00:50:40.400 --> 00:50:41.840 I kept refusing and refusing. 922 00:50:42.840 --> 00:50:46.760 Dad died a number of years later. 923 00:50:46.760 --> 00:50:49.640 I loved him, great guy, passes away. 924 00:50:50.640 --> 00:50:53.020 IP rights go to the company. 925 00:50:53.060 --> 00:50:56.740 Kids have no rights in any of it at all. 926 00:50:58.460 --> 00:51:00.980 Now, since the company owns it, 927 00:51:00.980 --> 00:51:03.740 the people who are at the board level of the company 928 00:51:03.740 --> 00:51:08.740 control the IP and tell the kids, bye-bye. 929 00:51:08.960 --> 00:51:12.380 Like, you now can't even, you can't use this stuff. 930 00:51:12.380 --> 00:51:14.620 You can't even consider using this stuff. 931 00:51:14.620 --> 00:51:16.060 If we ever see you using this stuff, 932 00:51:16.060 --> 00:51:18.600 we will sue you as a corporation, 933 00:51:18.600 --> 00:51:20.820 even though you're the sons, right? 934 00:51:20.820 --> 00:51:22.500 So I tell you all this 935 00:51:22.500 --> 00:51:26.020 because licensing is really important. 936 00:51:26.980 --> 00:51:29.940 Obtaining some kind of detailed license agreement 937 00:51:29.940 --> 00:51:32.820 with a party who owns IP is really important. 938 00:51:32.820 --> 00:51:34.900 If I'm in a situation where, 939 00:51:36.540 --> 00:51:39.300 and this is stuff that we go into in the protection portal. 940 00:51:39.300 --> 00:51:41.000 Make sure you're there Monday, all right? 941 00:51:41.000 --> 00:51:43.500 So you understand, I'll talk more about this then. 942 00:51:43.500 --> 00:51:48.500 But if I'm in a situation where somebody owns the IP, 943 00:51:49.500 --> 00:51:53.500 but they're allowing me to use it 944 00:51:53.500 --> 00:51:57.180 in a certain market segment, I want a license agreement. 945 00:51:57.180 --> 00:52:01.500 And I wanted to say that they're giving me a license 946 00:52:01.500 --> 00:52:05.860 to do, a non-exclusive license to do X, Y, and Z, right? 947 00:52:05.860 --> 00:52:08.220 And I want to make sure that that license agreement, 948 00:52:08.220 --> 00:52:11.180 man, I'm going way deep for you guys. 949 00:52:11.180 --> 00:52:12.460 This is way deep. 950 00:52:12.460 --> 00:52:14.300 I want to make sure that license agreement 951 00:52:14.300 --> 00:52:18.260 goes into like terms and conditions. 952 00:52:19.020 --> 00:52:20.180 If the guy dies, 953 00:52:20.180 --> 00:52:22.660 like I want all that stuff in a license agreement. 954 00:52:22.660 --> 00:52:25.660 So the answer towards what you're referring to is 955 00:52:27.100 --> 00:52:29.780 license agreement is going to be very important. 956 00:52:29.780 --> 00:52:33.380 And it should have terms that talk about all of this, 957 00:52:33.380 --> 00:52:35.860 like in detail, you know, 958 00:52:36.940 --> 00:52:39.860 like if he passes away to talk about 959 00:52:39.860 --> 00:52:42.340 what happens to the assets and, you know, 960 00:52:42.340 --> 00:52:44.220 do you get a right of first refusal 961 00:52:44.220 --> 00:52:46.140 or do you get a right to purchase the IP 962 00:52:46.140 --> 00:52:48.340 if he passes away first? 963 00:52:48.340 --> 00:52:49.180 And if he, you know, 964 00:52:49.180 --> 00:52:50.860 and if he truly cares about this stuff, 965 00:52:50.860 --> 00:52:53.300 he should be okay to talk with you about it. 966 00:52:53.300 --> 00:52:56.420 If not, then he's really trying to control everything. 967 00:52:56.420 --> 00:53:00.180 And, you know, then I got to think to myself, 968 00:53:00.180 --> 00:53:03.820 if he's really trying to control these assets that strongly, 969 00:53:05.220 --> 00:53:10.220 then maybe this is not a long-term play. 970 00:53:12.300 --> 00:53:13.220 Maybe this is, 971 00:53:13.220 --> 00:53:16.020 I've got favor right now to work with the guy, 972 00:53:16.900 --> 00:53:20.060 but long-term, this may not be a business model. 973 00:53:20.060 --> 00:53:22.140 See, whenever I'm building a business, 974 00:53:22.140 --> 00:53:26.340 I need legal documents to support my business, right? 975 00:53:26.340 --> 00:53:27.420 That's vital. 976 00:53:27.420 --> 00:53:29.740 That's vital because, you know, 977 00:53:29.740 --> 00:53:31.940 Tom may not be around tomorrow 978 00:53:31.940 --> 00:53:35.100 or ABC Corporation may be bought out by another company. 979 00:53:35.100 --> 00:53:38.540 So I want legal documents that are saying what I can do. 980 00:53:38.540 --> 00:53:43.340 And if somebody else purchases that company, 981 00:53:43.340 --> 00:53:46.180 when they purchase, it needs to be subject to my terms 982 00:53:46.180 --> 00:53:48.940 so that I can continue doing what I'm doing, 983 00:53:48.940 --> 00:53:52.020 even if another person purchases the company. 984 00:53:52.020 --> 00:53:54.300 That's how I do business. 985 00:53:54.300 --> 00:53:56.180 That's how I always do business 986 00:53:56.180 --> 00:53:58.300 is that I'm looking long-term, 987 00:53:58.300 --> 00:54:00.060 I'm looking to keep things running, 988 00:54:00.060 --> 00:54:02.580 regardless of if that person that I licensed from 989 00:54:02.580 --> 00:54:04.020 is alive or dead. 990 00:54:04.020 --> 00:54:05.380 If they're dead, 991 00:54:05.380 --> 00:54:07.900 I would love to have the right to buy the IP, 992 00:54:07.900 --> 00:54:08.860 you know, potentially. 993 00:54:08.860 --> 00:54:10.380 Like these are things that I'm thinking of. 994 00:54:10.380 --> 00:54:12.180 And you'll learn more about this stuff 995 00:54:12.180 --> 00:54:13.020 if you go in the portal, 996 00:54:13.020 --> 00:54:15.740 we go into all this stuff in detail. 997 00:54:15.740 --> 00:54:16.580 All right. 998 00:54:16.580 --> 00:54:18.020 And with that, 999 00:54:18.020 --> 00:54:20.060 there's the last question. 1000 00:54:20.060 --> 00:54:22.340 The last question. 1001 00:54:22.340 --> 00:54:24.380 Last but not least, 1002 00:54:26.740 --> 00:54:28.020 the great Jackie, 1003 00:54:29.500 --> 00:54:30.780 where we actually began. 1004 00:54:30.780 --> 00:54:31.820 I think we actually, 1005 00:54:31.820 --> 00:54:34.820 I think you were the first person to speak 1006 00:54:34.820 --> 00:54:36.420 in the very beginning. 1007 00:54:36.420 --> 00:54:38.900 So I think we are ending 1008 00:54:38.900 --> 00:54:41.900 with the same awesomeness that we began with, 1009 00:54:42.620 --> 00:54:43.460 which is good. 1010 00:54:43.460 --> 00:54:44.500 Oh, thank you. 1011 00:54:44.500 --> 00:54:46.180 Oh my gosh. 1012 00:54:46.180 --> 00:54:47.340 I'm pretty sure, but all right. 1013 00:54:47.340 --> 00:54:48.340 So anyways, you're up. 1014 00:54:48.340 --> 00:54:49.300 What's your question? 1015 00:54:49.300 --> 00:54:51.300 Weird, weird, weird. 1016 00:54:51.300 --> 00:54:55.660 I could not find my name in the trademark, 1017 00:54:55.660 --> 00:55:00.140 but if you have a trademark that sounds like words, 1018 00:55:00.000 --> 00:55:09.300 it's an acronym can you get into can you get into trouble with that like say 1019 00:55:09.300 --> 00:55:14.040 there's a trademark with actual words that are found in the dictionary and 1020 00:55:14.040 --> 00:55:21.480 then the acronym that I've created is not is not in the trademark does that in 1021 00:55:21.480 --> 00:55:30.800 would that be a problem because it's I will let you know this the way that the 1022 00:55:30.800 --> 00:55:35.120 USPTO looks at acronyms is they look at the words that are comprised of the 1023 00:55:35.120 --> 00:55:43.680 acronym so they they say okay well the acronym is you know whatever like trying 1024 00:55:43.680 --> 00:55:52.120 to think of a good yeah FYI FYI right so they so the examiner immediately sends a 1025 00:55:52.120 --> 00:55:56.360 communication out to the trademark applicant and says what does FYI stand 1026 00:55:56.360 --> 00:56:00.840 for that's what they do immediately and then they say oh it stands for for your 1027 00:56:00.840 --> 00:56:04.280 information then they do a search before your information and if they find out 1028 00:56:04.280 --> 00:56:09.240 that for your information potentially in front potentially it has a likelihood of 1029 00:56:09.240 --> 00:56:12.840 confusion with some other registration then they reject it okay that's how it 1030 00:56:12.840 --> 00:56:19.440 works okay because I have a lot of acronyms that mean something else so am 1031 00:56:19.440 --> 00:56:24.120 I supposed to spell that out in the trademark like what it would actually 1032 00:56:24.120 --> 00:56:27.640 follow the application everything that's stuff that we go through in the 1033 00:56:27.640 --> 00:56:33.320 protection world okay so yeah but as far as acronyms go just understand whenever 1034 00:56:33.320 --> 00:56:39.120 you file an application the examiner is going to they're immediately gonna 1035 00:56:39.120 --> 00:56:42.640 respond I mean I've seen this pretty much every single time they're gonna 1036 00:56:42.640 --> 00:56:48.320 come back and say what other words what does it stand for and then and this is 1037 00:56:48.320 --> 00:56:54.720 why one of the things I talk about in the portal is I talk about how do you 1038 00:56:54.720 --> 00:57:00.720 word your recitation of goods and services so that you don't get rejected 1039 00:57:00.720 --> 00:57:04.880 right because there's an art form to actually if you just file your 1040 00:57:04.880 --> 00:57:10.000 application and in your application it says 1041 00:57:10.000 --> 00:57:17.680 something like so FYI is the acronym and then you say it's it's used for books 1042 00:57:17.680 --> 00:57:25.920 that are teaching you information or it's used for books that are disclosing 1043 00:57:25.920 --> 00:57:31.560 things that are for your information right something like that it's gonna get 1044 00:57:31.560 --> 00:57:36.320 rejected as merely descriptive because the words for your information or in the 1045 00:57:36.320 --> 00:57:40.320 recitation of services and so therefore it's gonna get rejected because the 1046 00:57:40.320 --> 00:57:45.960 actual words of the application are actually in if they're actually in the 1047 00:57:45.960 --> 00:57:50.640 description of the services so therefore it's gonna get rejected so okay all 1048 00:57:50.640 --> 00:57:56.280 right I'm gonna close there I'm full hopefully you guys are full there's like 1049 00:57:56.280 --> 00:57:59.560 there's a ton of stuff that we went through guys I think we probably went 1050 00:57:59.560 --> 00:58:06.160 through more this time than probably ever and so I hope you will join us 1051 00:58:06.160 --> 00:58:12.560 either through the audit or in the portal you'll hear more about the portal 1052 00:58:12.560 --> 00:58:19.960 on Monday but as far as the offer for doing the for doing the audit this audit 1053 00:58:19.960 --> 00:58:28.920 the offer closes Saturday at midnight it's over okay so that means this offer 1054 00:58:28.920 --> 00:58:34.520 that we're providing for the $59.95 it includes the audit the trademark search 1055 00:58:34.520 --> 00:58:40.120 the trademark application it also includes the protection portal at no 1056 00:58:40.120 --> 00:58:46.360 cost because a protection portal typically is $29.95 that's the normal 1057 00:58:46.360 --> 00:58:52.040 cost of the portal you're getting it for free all right so with the audit you're 1058 00:58:52.040 --> 00:58:59.160 getting the portal for free after Saturday at midnight if you if you're 1059 00:58:59.160 --> 00:59:05.720 pursuing the the audit you do not get the portal for free okay and with that 1060 00:59:05.720 --> 00:59:09.320 if anybody has any questions on that I know there's a few people that were 1061 00:59:09.320 --> 00:59:15.200 asking about a payment plan meaning can they split it in two absolutely yeah 1062 00:59:15.200 --> 00:59:22.560 well let's talk and we can we can figure that out for you just DM me what 1063 00:59:22.560 --> 00:59:28.720 is this Rhea has a testimony of healing Rhea the testimony of healing why don't 1064 00:59:28.720 --> 00:59:41.160 you share it I do before you stay good night yes so you know I'm here and I've 1065 00:59:41.160 --> 00:59:53.960 had neck pain for years like years like years right and big on the PT for the 1066 00:59:53.960 --> 00:59:59.840 past four weeks not for my neck for my back 1067 01:00:00.000 --> 01:00:03.120 And the exercises that I've been doing, of course, 1068 01:00:03.120 --> 01:00:05.080 have been aggravating the neck. 1069 01:00:05.080 --> 01:00:05.640 I don't know. 1070 01:00:05.640 --> 01:00:07.520 I don't know where it came from. 1071 01:00:07.520 --> 01:00:09.760 But over the past few months, I've 1072 01:00:09.760 --> 01:00:13.160 been working on my laptop. 1073 01:00:13.160 --> 01:00:16.040 So it's like, oh. 1074 01:00:16.040 --> 01:00:19.840 When it came out of your mouth, I was like, what? 1075 01:00:19.840 --> 01:00:22.200 Oh, that's mine. 1076 01:00:22.200 --> 01:00:24.800 So God works. 1077 01:00:24.800 --> 01:00:27.160 If any of you here don't believe, 1078 01:00:27.240 --> 01:00:30.720 I'm telling you that God works miracles. 1079 01:00:30.720 --> 01:00:32.960 Thank you, Peter, for being obedient. 1080 01:00:32.960 --> 01:00:37.760 And thank you, God, for your Holy Spirit in this room. 1081 01:00:37.760 --> 01:00:38.760 Amen. 1082 01:00:38.760 --> 01:00:39.680 Amen. 1083 01:00:39.680 --> 01:00:40.560 That is awesome. 1084 01:00:40.560 --> 01:00:41.040 I love it. 1085 01:00:41.040 --> 01:00:42.200 And he will do it. 1086 01:00:42.200 --> 01:00:42.700 Yes. 1087 01:00:42.700 --> 01:00:43.520 That's awesome. 1088 01:00:43.520 --> 01:00:44.440 That's awesome. 1089 01:00:44.440 --> 01:00:44.960 I love it. 1090 01:00:44.960 --> 01:00:46.760 You never know what you're going to expect, 1091 01:00:46.760 --> 01:00:48.480 what you're going to get. 1092 01:00:48.480 --> 01:00:50.120 So God is good. 1093 01:00:50.120 --> 01:00:51.000 Amen. 1094 01:00:51.000 --> 01:00:55.200 For those who actually don't know, 1095 01:00:55.200 --> 01:00:56.280 Larissa will tell you this. 1096 01:00:56.280 --> 01:00:58.480 Ray will tell you this. 1097 01:00:58.480 --> 01:01:01.560 In our group, we pray over companies. 1098 01:01:01.560 --> 01:01:03.480 We pray for healing, things like that. 1099 01:01:03.480 --> 01:01:08.480 So it's not just a business. 1100 01:01:08.480 --> 01:01:11.840 When people have a need, we take care of it. 1101 01:01:11.840 --> 01:01:14.200 And obviously, it's all God anyway, right? 1102 01:01:14.200 --> 01:01:16.480 Jesus finished the works already. 1103 01:01:16.480 --> 01:01:17.720 We're not doing new works. 1104 01:01:17.720 --> 01:01:19.360 Oh, man, I'm starting to feel them now. 1105 01:01:19.360 --> 01:01:20.280 All right. 1106 01:01:20.280 --> 01:01:21.960 All right, we're not done yet. 1107 01:01:21.960 --> 01:01:24.120 If you guys got to go, just go. 1108 01:01:24.160 --> 01:01:26.160 If you people are like, what's going on now? 1109 01:01:26.160 --> 01:01:27.640 I don't understand. 1110 01:01:27.640 --> 01:01:29.120 If you got to go, go. 1111 01:01:29.120 --> 01:01:30.000 I bless you. 1112 01:01:30.000 --> 01:01:31.760 I hope your business are incredible. 1113 01:01:31.760 --> 01:01:33.880 But something's happening here. 1114 01:01:33.880 --> 01:01:35.800 So we're going to dig in a little bit. 1115 01:01:35.800 --> 01:01:40.000 So this happens every challenge. 1116 01:01:40.000 --> 01:01:41.600 Prophetic words start dropping. 1117 01:01:41.600 --> 01:01:43.080 Businesses start transforming. 1118 01:01:43.080 --> 01:01:46.440 So let me just move forward with this. 1119 01:01:46.440 --> 01:01:49.840 So yeah, I mean, the fact of the matter 1120 01:01:49.840 --> 01:01:53.120 is Jesus already finished the work. 1121 01:01:53.120 --> 01:01:55.400 I've seen people praying for healing of other people 1122 01:01:55.400 --> 01:01:59.040 where they're like, hmm. 1123 01:01:59.040 --> 01:02:01.280 I think they like watch too many cartoons, 1124 01:02:01.280 --> 01:02:04.520 like where the cartoons are like, are you OK? 1125 01:02:04.520 --> 01:02:05.280 They're like that. 1126 01:02:05.280 --> 01:02:07.040 They're literally calling forth energy. 1127 01:02:07.040 --> 01:02:09.360 And if you're calling forth energy, 1128 01:02:09.360 --> 01:02:10.440 that's called witchcraft. 1129 01:02:10.440 --> 01:02:12.800 That's not called healing, all right? 1130 01:02:12.800 --> 01:02:13.880 That's different. 1131 01:02:13.880 --> 01:02:17.560 So what I would do is, the works are already done. 1132 01:02:17.560 --> 01:02:19.680 Just call forth the finished works of Jesus Christ. 1133 01:02:19.680 --> 01:02:20.640 That's it. 1134 01:02:20.640 --> 01:02:23.840 If you're a believer, you're an ambassador of Christ, 1135 01:02:23.840 --> 01:02:25.200 you can just call it forth. 1136 01:02:25.200 --> 01:02:27.480 You don't need to conjure anything. 1137 01:02:27.480 --> 01:02:30.560 If you're conjuring, you're doing it of your own efforts. 1138 01:02:30.560 --> 01:02:32.880 You're not allowing God to flow through you. 1139 01:02:32.880 --> 01:02:35.200 You shouldn't be getting tired when you pray for others. 1140 01:02:35.200 --> 01:02:37.720 You shouldn't be getting sick when you pray for others. 1141 01:02:37.720 --> 01:02:39.160 You're working through God. 1142 01:02:39.160 --> 01:02:43.720 And so with that, yeah, it's just 1143 01:02:43.720 --> 01:02:45.400 when the Lord just puts it on your heart, 1144 01:02:45.400 --> 01:02:48.040 just pray for others and call forth this finished work 1145 01:02:48.040 --> 01:02:48.920 and let it be done. 1146 01:02:48.920 --> 01:02:52.240 So let me just see if there's anything in particular 1147 01:02:52.240 --> 01:02:56.800 we're supposed to talk about over people's businesses. 1148 01:02:56.800 --> 01:03:01.000 Yeah, I'm just going to pray over spouses. 1149 01:03:01.000 --> 01:03:06.480 I'm seeing situations where spouses are not aligned. 1150 01:03:06.480 --> 01:03:08.080 And so it's making it difficult. 1151 01:03:08.080 --> 01:03:10.280 It's hurting some of your hearts. 1152 01:03:10.280 --> 01:03:12.560 It's very painful. 1153 01:03:12.560 --> 01:03:14.360 And so I just want to pray over that. 1154 01:03:14.360 --> 01:03:18.680 So yeah, Lord, I just thank you for the beauty of marriage. 1155 01:03:18.680 --> 01:03:21.760 I thank you for the covenant that is created. 1156 01:03:21.760 --> 01:03:25.880 I thank you that, Holy Spirit, you, husband and wife, 1157 01:03:25.880 --> 01:03:29.560 when they come together, it's a perfect unison, Lord. 1158 01:03:29.560 --> 01:03:32.600 And Lord, if the ideas that you're providing to people 1159 01:03:32.600 --> 01:03:37.680 truly are from you, then it becomes remarkably powerful 1160 01:03:37.680 --> 01:03:40.400 when husband and wife are aligned, Lord. 1161 01:03:40.400 --> 01:03:45.880 So if there is any area of sensitivity, 1162 01:03:45.920 --> 01:03:50.720 discord, anger, fear, Lord, we ask in Jesus' name 1163 01:03:50.720 --> 01:03:54.240 that you would just step in and just vanquish those things, 1164 01:03:54.240 --> 01:03:57.040 provide peace between both, 1165 01:03:57.040 --> 01:04:02.040 that there would just be a grace and ease in business, Lord, 1166 01:04:02.360 --> 01:04:06.280 a unity, a respect for each other. 1167 01:04:06.280 --> 01:04:08.000 Cool. 1168 01:04:08.000 --> 01:04:10.320 Yeah, and Lord, any wounds, any wounds, 1169 01:04:10.320 --> 01:04:14.880 any heart wounds that people have incurred 1170 01:04:14.880 --> 01:04:16.880 in the process of trying to step forward 1171 01:04:16.880 --> 01:04:18.200 in what they're being called to, Lord, 1172 01:04:18.200 --> 01:04:20.160 I just ask that you would heal them now, 1173 01:04:20.160 --> 01:04:22.880 that a dunamis resurrection power of Jesus Christ 1174 01:04:22.880 --> 01:04:25.720 would flow through people, the fire of God, 1175 01:04:25.720 --> 01:04:28.040 and by the blood of Jesus, they would be healed. 1176 01:04:28.040 --> 01:04:31.320 Their heart wounds would be healed now, Lord, 1177 01:04:31.320 --> 01:04:33.280 that any offense would be released, 1178 01:04:33.280 --> 01:04:36.120 that any unforgiveness would be released 1179 01:04:36.120 --> 01:04:38.840 so as to remove any permission for any attack 1180 01:04:38.840 --> 01:04:43.840 in any way, shape, or form, in Jesus' name, amen. 1181 01:04:45.640 --> 01:04:46.480 Amen. 1182 01:04:46.480 --> 01:04:48.040 Did that resonate with you guys? 1183 01:04:48.040 --> 01:04:51.040 Just, cause that popped up for a number of people. 1184 01:04:51.040 --> 01:04:55.200 So yeah, so, and with that, I'm gonna close. 1185 01:04:56.200 --> 01:04:57.440 This has been a lot of fun. 1186 01:04:57.440 --> 01:05:00.080 I've enjoyed doing this with you guys on Monday. 1187 01:05:00.000 --> 01:05:07.360 day we're going to go over logos and searching logos and I think and that's it. It should only 1188 01:05:07.360 --> 01:05:13.040 take about a half hour though it's not going to be a full hour okay and with that I wish you an 1189 01:05:13.040 --> 01:05:18.240 incredible weekend. If you have any questions on the Protection Portal or the audit DM me. 1190 01:05:19.360 --> 01:05:25.280 If you're DMing Ray or Jill or Larissa DM me personally okay because they're going to just 1191 01:05:25.280 --> 01:05:30.560 bring it to me anyway. So at the end of the day you're going to go on the phone and you're going 1192 01:05:30.560 --> 01:05:37.040 to talk and you're saying this happened and then my dog did this and my homework was eaten and then 1193 01:05:37.040 --> 01:05:40.400 you know a vulture came above and then you're just gonna have to tell me the whole thing. 1194 01:05:41.040 --> 01:05:46.720 Anyway so this way I'm here for you guys. I've set up the time for the weekend to just kind of 1195 01:05:46.720 --> 01:05:52.320 be available for you guys. You guys are incredible so just bless all of you and your businesses. I've 1196 01:05:52.320 --> 01:05:57.760 had so much fun with you this week and have an incredible weekend. I am gonna sleep tonight so 1197 01:05:59.280 --> 01:06:00.400 take care everybody.