Good to see everybody today. Welcome, welcome, welcome. Who's ready? Who has got day five
on your mind? Day five, ready for the last download. Actually,
not true. There's gonna be a bonus day. You asked for it.
The crowds have spoken and Peter's replied. So as you're
all getting in, I am gonna run the video.
I didn't realize that there was, you know, the state registration. I've done that. And
then you got the state trademark registration and then the federal registration and that
there were all these different levels and how important it is to make sure that you
are protecting your idea at all of the different levels and just not to mess around with staying
small that's like just go right for the federal level. Everything is online. It's not like
you're not going to be doing business across the whole country. And of course, we have
a lot of Canadians here. So and a lot of that goes across the country lines as well. So
that was super helpful. I think for me, it's the strategic planning
that how long is it really going to take for you? You can put your application in, but
how long will it take you to actually get it approved? And then if you make a mess up
how you know, the setback in time and lost opportunity money that that really could cost
you. I have learned so much about how to protect
myself and I am just, you know, just on cloud nine. So thank you.
So I came in knowing pretty much nothing like, I don't even know what's the difference between
a trademark and a copyright. And then last night I was able to actually walk somebody
through the USPTO website and go, here's what you would need if you wanted to trademark
what you're trying to trademark. And here's how you would do your recitation of goods
and services. Like I was able to walk her through the thing. It was cool. We were like
looking up the classes and like the international classes for her stuff. And it was really,
it was really cool. I was like, I actually learned something this week.
One of the things I appreciate the most, I took like pages of notes on. It's just the
wisdom that he gave, the advice that he gave, that you can just tell he knows and he's a
pro, but it goes beyond just his knowledge of the type of job that he does. But just
insight in so many different areas was incredibly helpful. And we're just really grateful that
we now have a plan to move forward, like you said, but we are grateful for his time. It
was truly a blessing to be able to sit with him and share our story and find out some
things we're doing wrong and how to fix them.
If you need some help, boy, Peter is the man to go to. And hopefully you guys can take
advantage of what he's offering. And guys, it'll be good. It'll help you and quickly
as well.
Yes. And we're so grateful, Peter. Thank you.
I really appreciated this challenge because the guys I work with, the course creators
and I could build websites. So always people are wondering about protecting their content
and just going through it with Peter is just meant that even today when I was talking to
a client, I was able to just share things that I'd learned just yesterday. It was like
so exciting. It's so exciting because it's like, oh, I can help you with that just a
little bit more than before. So yes, the way everything has been structured has helped
me personally navigate this whole realm with so much more clarity.
All of the creative things that I've done has always been around trademark copyright.
And I've had this like very tangible fear and anxiety around trademarks, copyrights.
And it's because of all the legal jargon and spending so much money doing it wrong has
been the fear. And I have an inordinate amount of attorneys in my life. So just getting friendly
advice, literal friendly advice, right. And from my friends have encouraged me throughout
the years, but it didn't put me into action until now, right?
By side, step-by-step, click-by-click,
trademark application in the VIP, life-changing.
Like it slayed a giant for me
that has been looming over my head,
intimidating me for a long time.
And that giant is dead and slayed.
Hey, I'm Bruce.
I just wanna give a quick shout out to my friend, Peter.
Peter jumped on a call with me last night
and in 30 minutes, totally fixed our entire landing page
from a legal perspective.
We had used some trademark logos.
We had used some trademark phrases
promoting a particular challenge we had coming up next week
and just got off a call, Peter jumped on.
We basically went top to bottom through the page
and I just fixed it in real time as he gave suggestions
and it was super helpful.
So I'm glad we dodged that bullet
that we're not gonna get in trouble
for using any trademark language or logos in our page,
but highly recommend it.
If you get a chance to work with Peter,
definitely recommend Coach Mary.
We are gonna stop the share there.
What I love to hear, welcome everyone.
Welcome to day five of the Protect Your Idea Challenge.
It's Friday, Friday, Friday, Saturday for Libby down under.
She's waking at the pre-crack of dawn.
Extra kudos to her as well.
So good to see everybody.
And while we have just a couple minutes,
take a moment if you would, please.
How great is this challenge?
Please fill up the chat with your impressions,
how wonderful this is, how valuable the content is,
and raise your hand if you've got a golden nugget,
another takeaway, wow moment from any of the last four days,
regular VIP, what is gonna be,
when you're top, never forget,
writer downers, golden nuggets.
Use the chat, raise your hand if you'd like to speak.
We wanna hear from you.
Has anybody made any progress?
Okay, Krista.
You need me to unmute.
Okay, so this is just yesterday specifically
with the patenting was actually huge for me.
I've said in my lives,
I've submitted a patent back in September,
like been two years into it.
And I've learned more in this challenge
for the last five days or four days now
than I have working two years with my lawyer,
which is ridiculous, right?
You know, $8,000 later.
But one thing that I can tell you
that what taught me yesterday was
I hadn't searched the back patent office
for if what I even patented was infringing on anything.
Okay, I didn't even know that jargon just so that you know.
And I had two friends that had gone to that site
two years ago and they were like,
there's over 3,000 patents we'd have to weed through.
But they didn't know what they were doing.
One of my friends is a lawyer,
but she's not a patent attorney.
So she has, this isn't her field.
So she had no idea how to get on that website and search.
And so when Peter specifically said,
here's where it's at, put this in that area.
I got on yesterday and I did that
and felt a release to do that.
And there's like 30 patents
that I narrowed my search down to.
And I was like, 30 patents, oh my gosh.
Like I thought there was like 3,000
and I was able to go through
and just see that nothing touches what I filed.
Nothing was even in the realm of what I was doing.
So I feel like that was a huge win.
I'm like, oh Lord.
And I already knew,
because I was okay with filing
and not having it to go through
just out of obedience to what I was asking me to do.
But how good is he?
Like, wow.
So that's my huge like, so that's it.
Oh, good.
Thank you for sharing it.
Let's applaud Krista for jumping into that USPTO website.
And let's hear from John.
No shenanigans, John.
Learn my lesson.
So the big thing, big takeaway was this,
that there's certainty, okay?
And this really dovetails on...
For those of us who are in level two and 100x,
there's a lady that came on and she just really wasn't clear.
There were so many unanswered questions
that she didn't even know who she was serving.
But I mean, her message, the products and what happened was
Peter just said, just you need to you need to have less
question marks in your life.
And what Peter's done here is remove the question marks
or the uncertainties or the unknowns, right?
Sometimes the unknown is the scariest part
because it's unknown.
But now there's a known, there's a commodity,
there's a certainty that any questions I had
with intellectual property, trademarks, copywriting,
I know enough to just be dangerous, right?
So that I can get to the point where I can take all that
to somebody who's skilled in doing that.
And so that's my big takeaway from all of this
is there's a level of uncertainty that has been removed.
And I think all of us are gonna benefit from that
because now we can move forward with confidence.
And so thank you, Peter, for giving us confidence.
So good.
Lynn, unmute yourself and I'm gonna give you the highlight.
Hey family.
I have a really good friend who had an invention
a few years back and she did a lot of research.
She ended up going with some attorney online
and it was a horrible experience.
I don't remember how much she spent
but I just felt dissuaded to even pursue my God ideas
because I'm like, I don't need that aggravation.
I don't need to waste my money.
And it was just the first day of the challenge,
not let alone the VIP that Peter
just walked us through everything.
And I'm like, oh my gosh, I would have paid more.
Don't tell him.
But it was so, just so informing.
And just like everybody else has said,
he does step-by-step and the clarity
that we receive, whether it's live or in the replay
is just, it's invaluable.
I'm just, I'm very, very grateful for his knowledge
and for his obedience and heart of sharing and giving.
So, and thanks for leading too, Larissa.
My pleasure.
Thank you.
Kim, did you wanna share or was that just a random unmute?
No, yes.
Okay.
Libby, you've got your hand up, unmute
and I'll give you the spotlight.
Apologies.
Let's look closely.
Good morning, everyone.
I'm here, look.
Thank you for your prayers yesterday.
Hallelujah.
The lower back is just, I could actually feel it.
I was lying there yesterday,
that wow, there's something going on.
It's starting to feel a bit better.
And yeah, so thank you.
Yes.
You don't realize what life is like
until your back's locked up and you can't move.
So, or the only movement that you can do
is either to walk really slowly or lie straight flat.
So yeah, so that's, thank you guys for your prayers.
Really appreciate it.
But my new and good regarding Peter
is just going through these past four days so far,
looking forward to today,
has unraveled all that spaghetti,
spaghetti of legal jargon.
And the way he unpacks it,
makes it realize it's just words
that have been put together to form a pattern,
a trademark, a copyright, a trade secret, et cetera.
And he's unpacked it in such a way
that makes it really clear where each bit goes.
And then also with some of the questions people have asked
where it's a little bit murky,
like you'd really need to get legal advice
and follow through with a lawyer to unravel that bit.
So there's so much more that I can do for myself
and for others, if I'm ever in that position,
that I can see that this is going to save me.
I think I put it in a poster legacy really,
because if you go the wrong way,
it's going to cost you everything.
So thank you, Peter.
Thank you so much.
Unbelievable content and his heart
and everything that he puts into it.
It's seriously guys, as you-
You know, I've been waking up before for every day.
Today was a struggle.
I will admit
to be up, to be here, to be live every day.
It is totally, completely worth every lost second of sleep.
Amen.
Bless you, bless you.
Because I have a appreciation of how much that,
you know, she's doing to put this together to support Peter.
And, you know, and I think
some of you guys can light up the chat with that for Larissa.
I mean, honestly, Larissa, I think, has done an incredible job here.
Just thank you so much for your commitment, Larissa.
And you're just your incredible demeanor.
And you've done an incredible job with all this.
And just for all of you, I mean, I just want to celebrate all of you.
I know this has been a time commitment for everyone.
I mean, obviously you've invested into this, but I see some alumni here.
Oh, my gosh.
There's some alumni here, too.
There's Todd and Tamara and some others.
Praise God.
This is really a family like this is, you know, you've got members.
A lot of us know each other here.
And there's some others that are new.
Welcome to the family.
But this is a when you're dealing with idea of protection.
This is a very unique area of the law.
There's not a lot of people that do this kind of stuff and
and don't confuse the world, quite frankly, because most of the people
that I know, you talk to them about this stuff and it's just like you.
It's very difficult to kind of follow.
And so I just my my heart on this was really to equip you,
because like I said, from day one, when I was ready to get started
and I heard the word pioneers out loud, very clear.
I knew the caliber of the people I was going to be working with.
And I had to make sure that I equipped you properly.
That's why I've been you know, some of you have been sending me the emails
and saying, you know, you could have done less.
You know, thank you so much.
But, you know, dude, really?
Like I was like, yeah, really, you guys are worth it.
So and with that, I also received additional emails saying,
is there going to be a bonus day?
Is there going to be a bonus day?
So, yes, there will be a bonus day.
So tomorrow, Saturday at 12 o'clock, I'm just going to give you a bonus day.
We're just going to kind of wrap up a few things.
One thing in particular that somebody asked, which I thought was brilliant.
I mean, all of you ask great questions.
One thing in particular, somebody sent me a communication
saying, how do you search logos?
Because logos don't actually have words.
So how do you search logos?
There's a way to search trademark logos.
Tomorrow, I'm going to start out with that.
I'm going to teach you how to do that.
There's a secret to it that people get wrong all the time.
And I mean, all the time, like they do it wrong and then they get into trouble.
I'm going to show you a back end way to search logos.
I'll show you exactly the sequence step by step.
OK, so we'll do that tomorrow.
And for those of you that can't make the bonus day, don't worry.
I'll put the video in the Facebook group.
I'm putting the I'm doing the bonus day for you, honestly, because you requested
because I think you've you've got more than enough already.
But I figured since you asked for it, I'm going to give it to you anyway.
Um, by now, you should have all of the videos.
All of the videos have been uploaded.
All of the text chat files have been uploaded.
If you're in VIP, it's been emailed to you.
You've got day one, two, three and four has already been sent to you.
If you signed up for VIP late in the game
and you were not so you weren't on the original list,
I've been updating the list literally every single day.
We literally had some two people sign up for VIP yesterday.
So so we added you to the list.
But if you are on VIP and you didn't get that email, just DM
either Larissa or myself and we'll get you the email.
Don't worry. Just be here.
Be here and just just absorb the materials coming to you.
You're going to get the recordings.
If you're in the challenge, you get the recordings for 30 days.
Then they're shut down.
If you're in VIP, you get them for 90 days.
Then they're shut down.
Now, if you're in the protection portal, you get them for the whole year.
OK, now with that, I just want to take a moment before we jump into
three topics that I think are very important in the patent arena
that I think you need to understand.
And then I'm going to kind of summarize everything for you.
Let's talk a little bit about the protection portal.
So the protection portal is like VIP, but it's more than VIP,
because some some people were saying, yeah, I like VIP.
That's what I want to do.
I just want you to understand that the differences between a protection portal
and and the and then I'm going to let Todd and Tamara speak
because they're amazing.
They're in the protection portal already.
And I think Miss is here, too.
She's in the in the protection.
portal. So in the protection portal, not only do you have a
similar experience to the VIP, but you get to email beforehand,
my resources are at your disposal. So that means you run
into legal issues in Germany, I give you my agents, you know,
you're looking for a specific individual has some legal
experience in another area, I give you my contacts. So you'll
get that. Separate from that, I put a lot of additional
resources in not only in the portal, but separate from that
you get them emailed directly to you. So it's it's a different
it's kind of it's like VIP, but it's kind of like VIP on
adrenaline. Let's just put it that way. And it's very family
oriented. Everybody knows each other. And so we try to help
each other out in the portal. And with that, Todd and Tamara,
can I unmute you? Maybe you can just kind of give your own
experience in with the protection portal just for a
minute. And thank you so much for joining. Just love you guys
and what you're doing with your own challenges. Just amazing.
Great.
Yeah, thank you so much. Yeah, thanks for inviting us. This is
great. We love you too. You're amazing. You're awesome.
You go way beyond, way beyond anything we could ever imagine.
But thank you so much. We've really, really enjoyed the
challenge. We've enjoyed the protection portal. We're getting
so much out of it. We loved our one on one and really that
helped unlock a lot of things and help us move forward in
this. This month, we're running another challenge next week. It
allowed us to create some business assets. And there's so
much to do to get things in place. And we have more more to
go. We need to hire somebody.
Just from what we learned when we took, because we were in your
first challenge. But in taking that challenge, and we have now
gone through and trademarked everything. I've got copyright
all over everything. We're just, you know, we're just covering
our assets.
Website tuned up with everything as well.
Yeah, workbooks that we're doing are now marked correctly. So it's
just a beautiful thing when you offer Peter, just a basic
knowledge of what we need to run business, a successful business
that's protected legally, is huge. We talk about this all the
time in our, in our group that we mentor, you know, some of our
people are in here. So we're super excited to see that.
So we coach and mentor nonprofit leaders, Christian nonprofit
leaders, we have a lot of fun with that. And we see some of
you in here. And you guys are awesome. I'm glad you're taking
advantage of this training. This is amazing.
With regard to that, in particular, I have a question
for you, because a lot of the people here are coaches. Like
there's a lot of coaches that are in this group of people that
are responsible for a lot of other individuals. Can you take
just a minute and explain with regard to the protection portal?
Are you taking the issues of your people and presenting them
in the portal to get you the feedback that you need? So not
only can you take care of them well, but they in fact, will be
equipped well, to take care of the people that they take care
of. So maybe you could talk a little bit about that for a
minute. Yeah.
Yeah, absolutely. One of the beautiful benefits of being in
the protection portal is access to you, Peter. So we've got
people in this challenge with you now, because of what you got
to bring to our people, just in the basic education knowledge
that they needed to have to even know how to move forward to
protect their ministries, and their nonprofits that they
started. So it's invaluable. What you offer in the ripple
effect of what you offer is huge. So we've heard back from
some of our people who are in this challenge with you, and
they are so excited, so thrilled, so grateful and
thankful that yeah, we can't speak highly enough of how you
being available to us through the protection portal has
blessed our who, the people we serve. And then by ripple
effect, the people they serve. So we're excited about that.
Thank you.
Thank you so much. Yeah, just so people know, I'm not doing this
to try to get accolades. The reason why I'm doing this is I
want you to understand that in the protection portal, you don't
just have to bring you don't, you're not limited to your own
situations. You can actually bring your client situations in
and don't feel bad about it. Because I've in the protection
portal, I've gotten many emails where people are saying, Is it
okay that I asked you this? It's not my situation, my clients
running into this, my clients run into that, what do I do? And
so by all means, yes, if you're in there, I don't care. I
really don't, it's your time. The only thing I ask is, one
other question that people ask is if they have a partner, can
the partner be in the protection portal as well? All right,
that's the one question I get. And the other thing is, if they
have an administrative assistant or a secretary or
paralegal,
Can the paralegal be in the portal as well?
So the answer to all of that is yes.
Okay, but there's one requirement.
If you do that, what I don't allow,
and Todd and Tamara and others can attest to this,
I don't allow doubling up on your questions
in a single session.
The reason why is because it's not honoring
to all the other people.
So if you have yourself, your paralegal and your assistant,
and so your paralegal is asking the first question,
your assistant asking the second one,
and your partner is asking the third,
we haven't gotten to anybody else yet.
And it's hard for me to monitor that in real time.
So I just ask that you would honor that.
If you're gonna have two other people listening,
I don't care.
I wanna make sure you're well-equipped,
but please don't like double and triple up
and tag team in that time,
because then it stops others from being able to receive.
So thank you so much, both of you.
Just totally honor you, love you guys,
and especially what you're doing,
the way you're doing the incorporation in ministry.
Everybody really needs to know about that.
So I'll definitely be passing your information on as well.
Yeah.
Thank you both.
Thanks Peter.
Absolutely.
I'm just gonna ask for one more.
Yeah, can you guys like type into chat how awesome they are?
Like they are, I just love those two.
If you don't know them in your ministry,
you really need to get to know them.
They just, they have a lot to offer.
And I'm gonna ask for a contribution
from one other person I see here.
Mits, how are you?
Hi, everyone.
Hi, Peter.
It's really great to jump on here.
So thank you for inviting me.
Oh, absolutely.
Your challenge, your last challenge was amazing.
I love that.
That was really good.
Yes.
Thank you so much.
So you've been involved with the,
obviously the earlier challenge,
and then you went into the Protection Portal.
Maybe you can give a little bit of your oversight,
because yours is different from Todd and Tamara's.
So I just wanted to get that kind of contrast.
So go right ahead.
Yeah.
So the thing I love about the Protection Portal
is the challenge is absolutely brilliant.
Like it blew my mind,
but there's always so much more.
There's, you know, so many more nuances
and details for your specific situation.
So it's really valuable having that opportunity
to go deeper with you, Peter.
I've loved it.
And I saw what Debs wrote, you know,
are there questions that you just feel embarrassed
or awkward about sharing?
And the answer is, you don't have to feel like that at all,
because I'm the one who has all the like
really basic questions and a simple mind
trying to wrap my head around how things work,
especially in an industry that is not just black and white,
but there are so many gray areas too.
So you can ask anything.
And like Peter said, it does feel, you know, family,
that we're on this journey together.
And I love what, you know, everyone's been saying so far
that it's not just for your benefit,
but it's been invaluable for the people you work with,
but for the work I do,
it's also the people I collaborate with.
So in this day and age where information
is such a big thing and everyone's a builder, right?
You're all building something.
Like it's good stewardship to not only build,
but to protect.
And I've not had anyone explain it
as well as you have, Peter, with such simplicity.
And I'm actually based in the UK.
So there are nuances to this industry.
And I still jumped in anyway,
because to have an overall understanding
and to know how it works internationally on the world scene
and to have the opportunity
to have your individual situations, you know, tailored to,
is absolutely phenomenal.
And just to start off on the right foot
gives you such peace of mind,
not just for your own business,
but, you know, for the others that you interact with,
it's so valuable and such a thrill as well,
when you'll be able to share.
Who knew IP could be so fun, Peter?
But yeah.
Well, you'll be happy to know
that I'm going to have a special guest
from the United Kingdom for you.
Yes.
So, yeah.
So Mrs. from the United Kingdom,
in case any of you didn't know,
we had a special guest, as you all know, Paula Clancy,
who is from Canada.
Well, we're going to have a special guest
from the United Kingdom
on one of our Protection Portal gatherings
so that they can address some of the issues
in the United Kingdom,
especially because of, you know,
the differences with the EU and the UK and all that.
Big deal, big deal.
And if you don't understand the differences
between the two and that there are separate legal rights,
you can end up in a lot of trouble.
And so we're going to go through that.
Every stage of business too,
even if you're just starting out, you know,
even if you're just getting your first,
for example, website up,
being able to navigate the legal scene,
you know, sets you apart,
but also it's so important in this day and age.
age where ideas are so prevalent and people are working with you know there's so many collaborations
you just need to have a good sense of absolutely safe so absolutely thank you so much for joining
i love the pictures on uh facebook of the university wow that from yesterday that the
architecture associated with that absolutely amazing i'll touch base with you later absolutely
gorgeous yes so bless you both thank you for joining you're welcome to stay obviously if you
want and if uh you're always welcome so i just want to jump into a few things hopefully that
helped to give you a perspective from people that um that run ministry-based services and coach lots
of people and others perspectives uh and we're going to have a little feedback later in this
as well from another individual but i wanted you to see that you know you're allowed to bring your
issues into the forum it doesn't have to be just you okay so with that let's go into the patent
realm a little bit i want to talk about two other areas in the patent realm one that's incredibly
important that will god permitting make your life a lot easier all right the patent world's different
from trademarks copyrights and trade secrets okay in the patent world if you perform a certain
action you can lose all of your rights meaning you cannot file a patent application you cannot
um oh some people are asking if you could drop the link all right um i'm getting dms can larissa
can you drop the link again for the protection portal uh if you wouldn't mind that'd be a
blessing thank you so much um there you go so that's where you can sign up uh so in the patent
realm if you have a new idea so it's a an invention apparatus a system a method any of those
kind of things and you perform one of the following three things one of these three things then your
idea is considered donated to the public what i mean by that is i don't care how much money you
spent on it in the research development or anything it's gone you can't own it all right
these are called statutory bars okay somebody typed that in the chat they're called statutory bars
okay this is the way they work
statutory bar there's three of them the first statutory bar
good job patricia yeah one of the first statutory bar is called the on sale bar okay
what the on sale bar or offer for sale bar says is if your invention is considered to be
substantially complete and you provide a commercial offer for sale
you have one year from that date to file a patent application if you do not
if you do not it's considered donated to the public and gone
what does that mean that means you could file a patent you can get an issued patent but then when
you try to enforce it it'll be invalidated another party will find out about it they'll
file some invalidation proceeding and you'll lose the entire litigation you'll lose your patent
it's called the on sale or offer for sale bar why is this important so for those of you the some of
you know what autocad is if you know what autocad is raise your hand look at that we got a lot of
brainiacs here okay all right so in autocad you know how you do it like a 3d rendering
so you come out with this really neat design if you have a really neat design and it's substantially
complete that's that's enough that's considered that that means your invention is substantially
complete complete if you combine that with a what's called a commercial offer for sale
the two of them together means that from that date forward the clock starts if i do that today
i have one year from today to file a patent application if i don't my invention is considered
donated to the public gone can't do anything about it all right now here's the clincher here's what's
really important about this and this is this is what's very troubling if you have a company
if you have a company and you're the inventor of the technology and your head of marketing or your
partner goes out there and makes an offer for sale even though it wasn't you if the invention
is substantially complete and a commercial offer for sale is made the clock starts even if it wasn't
you this is why it's really important that if you're working with other people within your team
you tell them hey don't say anything until i file patent applications
don't market this don't put it on your website
Don't go trying to build partnership.
Don't do anything until I tell you it's time to go forward.
People violate this all the time, literally all the time.
And the result is they spend $15,000, $20,000
getting a patent.
They try to enforce it.
It gets invalidated.
And then they just basically lost all the money.
Remember the example I gave you on day one,
the pharmaceutical company?
Does anybody remember that by a show of hands?
Anybody remember that?
OK, a few people remember that.
So just to summarize real fast, that's OK.
It's OK.
No, it's all right.
We've talked about a lot of stuff.
It's OK.
So what happened was a pharmaceutical company finally
received FDA approval.
Finally, after all this time, received FDA approval.
But before they filed their patent application,
one of the heads of, what was it, the CTO?
Not the CTO.
It was one of the board members, went to a trade show,
offered the drug for sale to other people
before they filed the patent application.
Then after they got FDA approval,
they started selling the drug.
A generic came on the market.
They sued the company who made the generic drug.
The company that made the generic drug
found out that this board member was at a trade show
offering the drug for sale.
So the other company that got sued just basically said,
look, you actually disclosed this and offered it for sale
more than one year prior to your filing of your patent
application.
Your patent's dead.
It's invalid.
They won in court.
The result, generics came on the market like that.
And the millions of dollars that went
into development of the drug just disappeared.
And somebody got fired.
And you probably all can figure out who that person was.
So it's a really big deal.
Make sure that if you have partners,
you explain this to them.
If you have individuals that are on your team,
in your corporations, explain this basic principle.
Don't violate the on-bar sale.
If you do, you violate the on-bar, the offer for sale,
statutory bar, again, you can't recover.
There is no recovery.
This is one of those abysses that you don't get out.
It's over.
That's it.
There's no second chance.
The second one, the publication bar.
Somebody tap in the chat, publication bar.
Publication bar.
Publication bar, publication bar, yes.
Why am I having you type this stuff?
Because I need you to remember these things.
Because these three things are things
that you cannot recover from.
You violate this, and it's over.
There's no recovery.
So the publication bar says that if you disclose your invention
so that it's readily available to the public.
So think of a website.
Think of writing an article.
Think of any publication, a white paper, anything
like that.
If you do that, and more than one year passes,
so you describe it in enough detail
so somebody can practice the invention,
and more than one year passes, your invention
is considered donated to the public.
Gone.
Why am I telling you this?
Don't put your inventions on your websites
until you file a patent.
Don't do this.
Oh my gosh, college dissertation.
Yes.
That's one of the biggest problems, college dissertation.
That is literally one of the biggest problems.
When somebody is trying to obtain their PhD,
what do they file?
Somebody, like, unmute themselves.
What do you file, what do you have
to submit when you're going for your PhD?
What's it called?
Yeah, Libby.
I'm not sure what you call it, but it's like all your work.
It's all your, you've done a research on something,
and it's a very specific area.
A thesis, that's it.
Right, so you actually have to file your thesis.
Sorry, couldn't think of it.
No, no problem.
So you actually have to submit your thesis
to get your PhD, OK?
So here's the thing.
A lot of students who are going for their PhD
will create their thesis and submit it to the college
or to the university.
Well, what do they do after they receive them?
They review them, and they, exactly,
I see people mouthing it out.
They publish them.
They put it in their libraries.
They make it readily available on their website.
That's what they do.
So a lot of these PhD students, what are they trying to do?
They're trying to build a corporation, right?
So they take their PhD student.
graduate program curriculum and they come out with some kind of new technology and then they
build a corporation around that technology but they put that in the thesis and they submit it
so then they leave the school and they start out a corporation. Two, three years down the road
they say you know this thing actually is doing okay I think we're going to file patent application
too late it's gone it's gone I've I'm telling you I've done presentations at MIT I've done
presentations at Dartmouth College and when I say this the last one I did at Dartmouth College
it was for the head of the medical device industry or the medical device curriculum
Keith, Keith Poulsen and students I'm not kidding you students got up the second that I said this
and ran out of the room literally because they were terrified because they realized
that they had to reach out to their professors and beg them not to publish what they had just
submitted because they hadn't filed a patent application yet and they're already trying to
start a corporation on that specific idea so for that reason do not do not do not submit for
publication your ideas until you file at least a provisional or utility patent application I'll
explain what a provisional is to you in 10 minutes okay all right that was the second bar that's
called the publication bar the first bar was called the on sale bar what's the third bar the third bar
is called the public use bar public use bar somebody type in the chat public use
this one is tricky this one's tricky I'm gonna explain it to you I think you're all gonna get
it right away you'll understand it very fast but I'm gonna explain to you why it can be tricky
public use public use public use yes there you go public use bar all right here's what happens
if a third party if a third party is using the invention for its intended purpose
and more than one year passes the invention is considered donated to the public that that's the
rule so just think third party using the invention for the reason the invention was made that's all
third party means not the inventor
the one who creates the invention is called the inventor right I'm I create the invention
therefore I'm the inventor that's it very simple very straightforward right if a third party the
party who is not the inventor uses that invention for its intended purpose the clock starts I'm
going to give you a practical example let's say I create a bicycle right and so I create this
bicycle in my garage and my neighbor I want to find out whether or not this works for people
in different weight classes like I want it I want the smaller I want the children to try it out I
want the adults to try it out I want like people who are light people who are you know heavier
whatever the case is I want different people to try this out so I give a prototype which is an
example of my products I give a prototype to my next door neighbor to the right of me who's like
250 270 pure muscle and then I give another prototype to my other neighbor who's like
10 years old you know I give it to him so he can give it to his kid to the so the kid can try it
out I'm getting different weight levels to see how the bike works right and I just give it to them
and I say here go try it out go use it see what it's like and they go about and they do
their business and they report back to me hey Pete yeah there's like the shock is really hard
like for the guy who's really built it really hurts when I ride this thing and the kid's like
I can't even reach my pedals it's not working this stinks this is the worst gift ever you know so
you know I'm getting all these different opinions and I'm using that to determine how to modify the
invention right that's a third party using the invention which is a bicycle for its intended
purpose that is okay because that's called experimental use that's using it to get some
feedback I'm just using it to get some feedback here's where the problem comes in if the third
party is using the invention for its intended purpose and I'm making money off of it that's
considered a sale that's not that's not called experimental use that's a sale
you can say all day long well I just want
I wanna see what my neighbor wants
as I gave them a bike for 300 bucks.
I was just trying to get feedback.
Yeah, maybe you're getting feedback,
but that's really a sale.
So that's a violation of the on-sale bar.
So a third party is using the invention
for its intended purpose.
If I'm just trying to get feedback,
I give it to them for a limited time.
They give me some feedback
and then I take the bike back, right?
I might just kind of say, you know what?
I got my feedback, thank you.
I got the prototypes back.
So there's no money being exchanged, right?
It's just testing, testing, testing.
That happens in software too.
Alpha versions of software, beta versions of software.
That's testing, testing, testing.
You need somebody to tell you
whether or not the software works.
What do you do?
You send them a beta version
and you say, look, I need your feedback,
but you don't charge them 150 bucks for the software.
Cause if you charge them 150 bucks
and said, give me your feedback, you just made a sale.
You just got a perk in that the person's gonna give you
some feedback, but that's still a sale.
So for that reason, you have to make sure,
the general rule is a third party using the invention
for its intended purpose, a person who's not the inventor.
If they do, then it's considered a violation
of the public use bar, okay?
So if my neighbor came up with a bike
that looks like mine, okay, without me,
then that's a third party using the invention
for its intended purpose.
So that's the public using the invention.
You know, I really can't do anything about that, okay?
But that actually falls into another area of law.
I'm not gonna, I don't wanna complicate things.
So basically, why am I telling you all this?
Keep it simple.
Just keep it very simple.
If you have an invention and you wanna get feedback,
don't charge for it.
That's the simplest way to do this.
Simplest way to do this, okay?
I'm giving you my prototype, you can test it out,
you can give me some feedback, give me my prototype back.
You know, I may pay you to give me the feedback,
but I'm not, you're not,
that person is not paying me for the product, okay?
Does that make sense?
If that person is paying me to use the product
I'm giving them, that's a sale.
I don't care how you paint it.
I don't care if it's a goat, you put it in a dress,
it's still a goat, all right?
You can put it a goat in a dress and try to go to the prom,
it ain't working, it's a goat, okay?
That's just the way it is.
So the situation is that if you take your invention
and you sell it to another person and try to get feedback,
that's a violation of the on-sale bar.
Why am I stressing this?
Because I handle these cases in litigation all the time.
In Massachusetts Federal District Court,
in Eastern District of Texas,
in Southern District of California,
in Florida, in New Hampshire,
like these are the cases that I litigate.
It happens all the time.
People don't know this basic thing.
Three statutory bars.
One last time, a goat's a goat, even in a dress.
The things we learn in a challenge.
A goat is a goat, even in a dress.
This is, these are our takeaways.
All right, so there are three statutory bars.
Let's go over them one more time.
Three, first one, offer for sale bar.
If the invention's considered substantially complete,
think of AutoCAD, all right?
Think of your beta versions of the software
and you offer it for sale,
meaning a commercial offer for sale.
Even if you're not the person doing it,
if it's a member of your company or a partner,
that's considered an offer for sale.
You have one year from that date
to file a patent application.
If you don't, gonzo, it's considered donated to the public.
Second bar, the publication bar.
If you take a description of your invention
and you describe it in a manner
so that somebody of ordinary skill in the art,
somebody like you could pick up that document
and practice the invention from your description
and it's readily available to the public,
meaning it's in a publication,
that's why it's called a publication bar,
then if one year passes, it's donated to the public.
It's gone, all right?
And today, just so you know, in Facebook today,
I'm gonna drop a document for you
that has each one of these and describes them for you
so you can take it with you, okay?
Make your lives easier.
All right, that's the second bar, the publication bar.
The third bar, public use bar.
If a third party is using the invention
for its intended purpose, donate it to the public
if more than one year passes, okay?
Now, just so you understand the reasoning for this, why?
Like, why is it the case that if you publish the invention
and more than one year passes?
passes. You can't own a patent. Or why is it that if you offer it for sale, you can't
file a patent later? Or why is it that if a third party is using it for its intended
purpose, you can't file a patent? The reason why is because you put it out in the public
in the public season, the public's using it, the public's interacting with it. Now you
wait five years and then all of a sudden you have this enlightening moment and say, let
me file a patent. Then you're going to stop all the people that think it's publicly available.
That's not fair. So the government says, I think the government got it right this time.
So the government says, hey, if you're going to offer it for sale, if you're going to publicly
make it available, or if third parties are going to use it for its intended purpose,
you've got one year to file your patent. If you don't, we can't take a chance on the public
starting to do what you've made publicly available. And then you decide, I'm going to go ahead
and sue everybody after I did that. That's not fair. Okay. Does that kind of make sense?
The three stat story bars. So all you have to remember is don't publish it. Don't talk
about your invention. This is why when I go into challenges or where I go into other environments
where people are throwing their ideas back and forth, I cringe because I think this idea
may be worth a million dollars and they're here disclosing their invention. And if they
violate one of the statutory bars, they have one year to file something in the United States.
If they don't, it's considered donated to the public. They may have just lost their
invention. Now we just talked about the United States and the United States. You have one
year. Everybody has to hear this. In foreign countries, there is no one year. Exactly.
I see a lot of faces in shock right now. What does that mean? That means if there's a publication
with regard to your technology, the second you published, it's gone. The second you
disclosed it, it's gone. This is why it's important to be careful what you talk about.
This is why when you signed up for this challenge, I made you check a form that says, you understand
this isn't attorney-client privilege. There's no legal advice. One of the other things I've
talked to you about is don't bring your inventions in here and talk about them. I've had people
try to do that and I've shut them down midstream. Why? Because I care about you. I don't want
you losing the blessings that you're receiving. This falls into that realm of just to get
spiritual for a second here. This falls into that realm of if the Lord is blessing you
with an idea, the enemy comes to steal, kill, and destroy. What's his first, his literally
number one assignment? Steal. What better way to steal than to make you start disclosing
your invention? Second you disclose it, you now can't obtain any rights to it. You essentially
sabotage your own situation. This is why the three stat story bars are so important
to know. They're going to be in writing. They're going to be in the Facebook group. You can
look at them and so you can digest them over time. I want to make sure that you are actively
partaking in this part here. That is probably the most important part of patent law. What
I just told you right there is probably the most important part. Now I'm going to tell
you the second most important part. We kind of touched base on this yesterday. This will
be the last substantive thing that I'll be sharing with you. Then right after that, let
me see. Then we have a special guest. Rowena! Rowena! Oh my gosh. So good to see you. Do
you have five more minutes? I do have five more minutes. Yes. Okay. All right. Let me
share this quickly. Rowena already knows this. So, okay. In the patent world, patents
are expensive. Very expensive. Okay. Filing a patent application costs you $9,000, $10,000,
$11,000, $12,000 just to file it. Okay. The government knew this. So the government created
what are called provisional patents. That's all you need to know. Provisional patents.
You talk to a lawyer, just ask them, what's a provisional patent? Can I file a provisional
patent instead of a utility patent? Because it's going to cost a lot less. All right.
It's a secret to the industry that most people don't talk about. Okay.
That's, I wanted to mention that to you, OK?
What a provisional patent is, is the only requirement
is a title and a description.
That's it.
A utility patent has a title.
You can just listen to this.
You don't have to write this down,
because you're not going to be able to write all this part
down, just so you know.
I mean, you can write if you want to.
But a utility patent has a title, cross-reference
to the related applications, field of the invention,
background of the invention, summary of the invention,
abstract, claims, brief description of the drawings,
and a detailed description, and at least one drawing,
if necessary, to understand the invention.
It's a big document.
Provisional, title, description, period.
There's a difference in cost.
So if you're doing a startup, it would be absolutely brilliant
for you to ask your attorneys, hey, look,
I don't have a lot of money.
Can I file a provisional, just to maintain the filing date?
And if I can, within a year, I can
determine whether or not I can file a utility patent.
So just remember the word provisional.
That's it.
That's all you need to do, OK?
Now, we've got a special guest here who I absolutely adore.
And the reason why I asked her to be here
is because she is an incredible coach.
She's guided a lot of us over time.
And she was actually in our first challenge.
And I just wanted to get her to have a moment
to just kind of talk about how she's implementing this stuff.
Because while you've learned a lot of different things,
there's a difference between learning things
and knowing how to implement them.
There really is.
And so what you're going to find is,
remember how I told you one of the most important things
that I wanted to make sure you could do was to issue spot?
You don't have to understand absolutely everything.
But if you can issue spot, being in a meeting with your people,
with your who, who you love and adore,
you're trying to take care of.
And they mention something.
And all of a sudden, you get this gut feeling
like something's wrong.
I don't know what it is.
But man, that's either like, is that a Circle R issue?
I know it's trademarks.
Where's my chart?
Oh, there it is.
It falls under there.
There it is.
That's where it goes.
Let me go speak to somebody who knows what's going on, all
right?
So Rowena, can you kind of speak towards this?
Because I know you have a lot of experience in this area.
And I just want to kind of honor you and give you
a moment to kind of help the people out to understand that.
Absolutely, Peter.
Thank you so much.
I love seeing so many of my family members here.
I'm proud of you.
Got girlfriends in here.
That's so cool.
Love y'all.
OK, so Peter, I learned about Peter's Protect Your Idea
challenge when we were going through his funnel
at the workshop.
Yeah, and you helped me.
Yeah.
At the castle.
Yeah, so I distinctly remembered when
you said December 13th was your challenge.
And so some of you might relate to this.
But for years and years and years,
I have really wanted to file trademarks and copyrights
and didn't really understand the patent world,
obviously, because I was in the fashion and creative realm.
And then going into the digital, transitioning all of my skills
in the digital realm, and knowing
that there is risk of losing some
of my proprietary frameworks, right?
And so when I learned about Peter's Protect Your Idea
challenge, I knew it was something
that was like a response to the desire.
I've always wanted to be able to protect my own ideas.
But then now, as a coach and a consultant
in the niche digital space, there's
a greater sense of urgency to protect not just myself
and the frameworks that the Lord has given me,
but also to protect my clients and the brilliant ideas,
frameworks, methodologies, copy, slogans, logos, names,
ideas that they have that are God-given,
I believe God-given.
But they're just so, they think, oh, the minute,
I want to be first to talk about it.
And they start naming their companies
on their Instagram accounts and their Facebooks
without protecting or checking if there is anybody trademark
or protecting that, their name, right?
So when Peter talked about the statutory bars,
the publication blew my mind, y'all,
when the minute he said that the moment that you say out loud
your God idea, your framework, your methodology,
your potential trademark, your potential and your invention,
the minute the statutory bar clock starts ticking,
you have up to a year to protect that idea.
Otherwise, it's a gift to the public.
And that's how the enemy steals our stuff, right?
And so I felt like it came at this appropriate time
so that before I start taking on clients
and consulting clients, coaching clients,
that this is going to be an opportunity for me to add.
to my toolbox, my skill set, to be able to not just, to be knowledgeable in this area of how to
protect their frameworks and their ideas, right? And their inventions, and even the books that
they're looking to write, right? Or have written, or how can you protect, you know, a script? So,
a recent conversation I'd shared within the Protection Portal when we had our meeting last
week was, I was in, I was having coffee with a friend and they wanted to turn a book that,
a book they did not write, it was somebody else's book, and they wanted to write a pilot program,
a television pilot for it. And I said, hey, do you have permission? And they're like, no,
we want to launch the pilot and then we want to then talk to the author. I was like,
major red flag, major red flag. I think that you have, there's infringement, at the very least,
there's infringement involved in the original author, since you don't know him, you have no
relationship to him, and you haven't yet to contact him. So, I said, before you put all this
money into filming the pilot, we need to have another conversation. I actually have a call
tomorrow with, in the Protection Portal, and that's how I was able to bring that up to Peter,
and we were able to discuss how to, what sounds like infringement, you know? What is an issue?
Is this a TM issue? Is it a circle art issue? Is it a copyright? Is it a patent? And so,
I felt like this is a great community, just to talk about how do we begin to understand
protecting our ideas? How do we begin to caution our clients on how to protect our ideas? And so,
that's what I felt like was invaluable to me, joining this community. And so, I love getting
to see all my friends here, my coaching friends, my 100x friends, crush it friends. So, yeah. So,
is there anything else that you'd like me to share? That was brilliant. I mean, that, honestly,
that situation that you just laid out is so practical, and it's such a real-life situation.
And if I recall, one of the things that we looked at was, with books, inventors or the
original authors sometimes give the rights to the publishers or give the rights to another entity.
So, the question is, who is the party who actually owns the rights to the books now?
Because you might go reaching out to the original author, but the author doesn't own the rights.
It's another company. So, now, you get the author who's saying, oh, yeah, I, by all means,
give you rights to go and make a movie. You go making a movie or go make some kind of series,
and then you get sued. And you go, how did that happen? I got permission from the author. That's
because the author already sold the right title and interest to the publisher or to another entity
that actually owns the rights. I mean, I actually represented Ben Deanda in attempting to obtain
rights to Carol Kuhlman's entire collection. And we were trying to go down this route. And,
by the way, looking at some of Carol Kuhlman's stuff, oh, my gosh. I'm sorry, Catherine Kuhlman's
stuff. Yeah. I mean, just, oh, my gosh. Just amazing. And so, he was trying to put the whole
collection into one area so everybody could go online, become a member, and then have access to
it. But the fact was that a certain university had the rights to it. So, we tried to work through
them. So, even though we spoke to the foundation and the foundation saying, yeah, go for it. You
know, that's cool. It's not a big deal. I said, hold it. Do they really own the rights here?
And then, as we dug in, they didn't have the rights. So, the foundation is saying, go forth
and prosper. And in the meantime, the university is saying, I don't think so. You should speak to
our lawyers because we have all the rights here. And we're not ready to let somebody else take the
materials and put it online and have a membership thing. That's not happening. So, these are real
life situations. So, Rowena, you just, you bring so much to the table and, you know, just love you,
honor you. You're awesome. So, and thanks for helping me on the first funnel. That was awesome.
Thank you. So, all, just thank you so much. This is incredible. I'll take like one or two questions
and then we'll close out our last day. We do have a bonus session tomorrow at 12. I'm doing this
because you've requested it. So, we'll get together. We're going to do a real live search for logos,
which is very unordinary. Most people don't know how to search logos on the internet. I'm going to
show you how to do a trademark search for logos. And separate from that, guys, just light up. Oh,
you're already doing it. I was going to say, can you light up the chat for Rowena? It's already
done. These people just love you. That's awesome. So, let me open up the line for anybody who has
a question. Jennifer, Coach Jennifer, go right ahead. So, what Rowena was talking about and the
example you gave made me think that even before I take on a client, I might want to know some of
those things because I'm guessing if they are already in violation of something in some way.
And I'm not going to take you on then as a marketing client to continue doing what you're doing when you're already in violation.
You go fix that first, then we'll talk.
Or I can help you with this other stuff, but not that stuff.
Because I'm guessing that would make me complicit, potentially.
Yeah, and you know, it's amazing.
You're nailing major legal issues.
What you just talked about, see, in the patent world, it's anybody who makes you sales or imports.
I don't care if you're the original person or the second person or the third person or the fourth person.
Anybody in the chain runs into the problem.
So if somebody has a patent on a certain process and you're helping this party go forth in performing that process,
you essentially can fall into a section called indirect infringement.
That's a possibility.
So you're not a direct infringer, but you could possibly be an indirect infringer.
That's an analysis that we would have to do over the circumstances.
But it's really important to understand beforehand, are there issues?
Are there not?
Am I essentially becoming an accessory to those issues or not?
And so at least now you can identify the issues.
Before, you're just kind of blindly working with people and you didn't know there were any issues at all.
Now, at least, you know, there may be something to kind of be careful about.
Yeah. And like Kathy just put in the chat, like this now goes on my client intake form, right?
Like, what are we talking about?
And right, because I'm not really interested in sharing a cell with you.
So let's just let's just get this cleared up now.
There aren't too many. There aren't too many people who commit patent infringement in the D block, you know, in maximum security.
Just so you know, because they wouldn't survive.
They would not survive a day. OK, so.
Yeah. But maybe blue collar prisoners. I don't know. But not too many people go to prison.
But there are very, very stiff fines. Very stiff fines.
Yeah. So, Larissa, you had a question.
I want to bring up a question that was asked about sharing your wedding inventions.
What if you're sharing with a close like a family member, personal friend?
It doesn't matter. There's no such there's no such there's no measuring stick that says how close are they in relationship to you?
It doesn't doesn't exist. It's a third party.
I'm the inventor. I'm sharing it with. Now, remember, the three stats to rebars, the way they work.
The offer for sale bar is it's a commercial offer for sale.
Right. So it doesn't have to be in writing, though. A commercial offer for sale doesn't mean in writing.
You can speak a commercial offer for sale. If the other party can accept the offer for sale, then it's considered a commercial offer for sale.
All right. And then with regard to publication, it has to be readily available to the public.
And it has to describe the invention so that one of ordinary skill in the art could practice it.
So somebody picks it up and says, I could practice that invention.
Right. And then public use is a third party using it for its intended purpose.
So it but in foreign countries, which we didn't go into in detail, and I don't want to confuse people, but you have the recording so you can listen to it.
In certain foreign countries, the second you disclose it, gone to the United States has these three these three statutory bars.
So if I'm if I go right here and I say, you know what, I've got this great new idea has to do with a cell phone.
And the way it works is if you take one piece of hair and you drop it into this slot, all of a sudden it will give you access to your bank accounts and all this other stuff.
And now you can just kind of speak to a cell phone and it's going to do all your transactions. Right.
That'll probably lead to a lot of really corrupt people pulling people's hair.
But anyways, we're going to put that on the side for a moment.
The fact that I just kind of talked about that I talked about the portion that would be protectable in the United States, that wouldn't be a publication that wouldn't be an offer for sale.
And that wouldn't be a public use. So that's not a problem. The problem is in foreign countries, there's an absolute non disclosure requirement.
So the fact that I disclosed it at that level may be a problem in certain countries. So to be safe, just when you talk about things, just say, I've got a new way of using a cell phone that uses some biomaterial.
But keep it so high level that people don't know exactly what it is. So when you go into as an example, when you go into your meeting rooms, if you're jumping into challenges, which we all do.
And in that challenge, it says, hey, I want you guys to go into, you know, I want you guys to kind of talk about your inventions, like, don't go in detail on your inventions.
What you do is you just add a top level. So like if my invention is a bicycle, well, I found a way to not use a motor and get from a first point to a second point.
point by just sitting on something, that's it.
That's top level.
Nobody knows there's at least two wheels
rotatably connected to a center mass
with pedals that allow for acceleration,
a braking system on a handlebar
that's connected to the first wheel.
Nobody knows all that.
When you start going into that level of detail,
now you're disclosing too much
that may be a problem in foreign countries.
In the United States, you're fine
because it's not a violation
of any of the three stat story bars.
But again, I don't want to give you...
If you're in the portal,
you can get a lot of this detail.
We go into a lot of slow drawing out of things
and scenarios and what about this?
What if it's Tuesday?
What if it's a lunar eclipse?
Like, you know, we go into everything.
But for here, I just want to keep it short.
Christa, you had a question.
Larissa, is your second one quick?
All right, let me go to Larissa's really quick
and then I'll go to you, Christa, okay?
What was your quick one?
Good.
Libby asked, and you can determine
if you want to like fold this to VIP or otherwise,
and she might need to clarify,
what if you contributed to a book?
Sort of like, I am the contributor.
We got to cover that in VIP.
That's very detailed.
That's a VIP thing, Libby.
Yeah, it's a great question.
It's going to take about five minutes to answer that.
That's a big one.
Christa, go right ahead.
I feel like my question might be a little too detailed.
So maybe we wait for VIP.
Okay, go ahead.
You want me to ask it?
Go ahead and ask.
I'll let you know.
Okay, specifically with a patent.
So you're talking about international stuff.
Like I was trying to determine whether or not
if I should file a patent,
like where it would be manufactured possibly.
I'm hoping it's going to be the States,
but what if I'm manufacturing over in China
but I don't have a patent there?
Then I'm like, oh, they're going to steal my idea.
Yeah, great.
You always have incredible questions, Christa.
I mean, this entire series,
your questions have been really good.
So just want to celebrate you, really good questions.
So this is what I would say.
I'm going to keep it very top level.
And when we go on VIP, we'll go deeper, right?
The way I tell people for protection and patents
is I tell them, look at two things.
Where are the sales?
Where's the manufacturing?
Always own the place where you got the sales.
That is the most important.
Because if somebody manufactures in China,
but they only sell in the United States,
then if I get rights in the United States,
then they can manufacture anywhere they want,
but they're never going to be able to sell.
So I could shut down the manufacturing
merely by the fact that they can never sell the product.
All right, so that's one thing.
That's if I can't afford to get protection
in the United States and China.
Because if you try to protect things in China,
you got to deal with translations,
you got to deal with a different,
it's a different legal system, all right?
And I filed patents in China, so I know the legal system.
And for those people here that do manufacturing
and work in China, if you're in the protection portal,
I can get David Zhao to be a guest.
He's one of my agents in China,
so he can come and talk to you directly
about how do you deal with manufacturing in China?
What do you do about domain name disputes there?
What do you do about filing for patent rights there,
enforcement?
He can hit all that stuff.
So I might actually ask him to be a guest
in the next few months.
So to answer your question, place of sale, number one,
the most important.
Place of manufacturing, second most important.
The reason why I always say it's manufacturing
second most important is because
if they can manufacture it in China,
chances are they can manufacture it in Malaysia.
Chances are they can manufacture it in Indonesia.
So for those reasons, you may shut down this country,
but now, boop, they go over here,
and then boop, they go over there.
But if the only place they sell is the United States,
I shut down the US, you can boop, boop, boop
all you want, but you're not gonna ka-ching.
So that was free.
That's my beatboxing for today.
Okay, so that's it for the day.
Bless you all.
This has been incredible.
I absolutely like, I was like coming to tears yesterday,
kind of thinking about this being the last day.
We will get together tomorrow,
for those of you that can at 12 o'clock.
If you cannot, it's been such an honor serving all of you.
You're amazing.
Your giftings are incredible.
Right back at you, Patricia.
You're pointing that way and that way.
Is that like, you're trying to find a new thing
to copyright?
Is that what you're doing?
The public wants to know, are there any more prizes?
Oh, yes.
Oh my gosh, that's right.
We have one more to go through.
That's right.
I'm not ready.
Tomorrow?
No, no, let's do it now.
Let's do it now.
Yeah, and I'm going to give, some of the people dropped off,
I'm going to give it to them, even if they're not here,
because I know who was in here originally.
So I'll be able to know who will get this one.
All right.
This.
one is kind of a big deal. That's so funny. Thank you,
Larissa. Do you have the wheel up?
I do. I want to make sure I have all the names. So give me a
second because we added like, I think two more people yesterday.
So I just want to make sure they're on there.
But that Elizabeth and Amber. Yep. And they need to be present
to win.
As long as they were here when we started, as long as the
people were here when we started, because we kind of
waited to the end. So this is for the one hour alone with me
on any topic in intellectual property. And just so all of you
know, the way this work I bill, it depends on the circumstance,
but I bill for anywhere from a half hour to 90 minutes, I bill
$2,000. Because I cover all three or all four areas, any
area of intellectual property. Okay, we'll touch a little bit
tomorrow on trade secret. There's really nothing in trade
secret that you really need to know all that much. Because most
people don't really deal with trade secret law. But why don't
we go ahead and run that? Go ahead and run that. Please.
Are y'all I have slow internet.
Oh, it's fine. It's fine.
Sue Mae, I don't think Sue Mae was here today.
We go again, run it one more time, just in case. I'll double
check on the records and see if she was here. But if not, I
didn't see her at all. But that's
another awesome. Alright, so that's the one hour one on one.
And that was the last one. Okay. So bless all of you. For those
minutes or so. And for others, I will see you tomorrow. We can
make it and if you can't make it for either. It's been such an
honor serving all of you. I hope you receive a good amount that
will help you on your way so you can do your issue spotting. And
so that things will, you know, be easier for you. Larissa, I'm
going to jump off you can handle any other administrative stuff.
Catch you guys later. Thank you.
Before you leave scale of one to 1010 being superb. Don't even
go Peter, everyone else. Let's give Peter some love. Scale of
one to 10. One being okay. 10 being fantastic. How has he
felt?
Awesome.
One gazillion.
Libby.
How many zeros?
10 XX XXX incredible, incredible infinity and beyond. Absolutely.
One to the infinite. One to the infinite still.
I'm not a mathematician, but I do do math for a living. Awesome.
Awesome. Well, thank you again, everyone for being here. Five
minute bio break for those of you going to VIP. We'll see you
soon. Thank you so much and bonus day tomorrow.