And we're off.
What's up VIPers?
What's happening?
It's so good to see all of you.
It really is.
I'm really enjoying the interaction.
I mean, I wish I could share some of the emails that you're sending me about your own personal
situations and how you're overcoming certain things.
It's so much fun.
I'm actually sharing some of the stuff with my wife.
And so she's just like, honey, I knew this is what you were going to love doing.
And she's right.
This is love sharing life with all of you.
It's just such an honor sharing life with you.
Miguel!
Miguel, were you there for the challenge?
Were you there last session?
I told you I just joined.
No, I did not.
Sorry.
I got to catch up on my recording.
You know, so, yeah, so you may not want to watch it.
Your name kind of came up.
Already?
What's going on?
It did.
Your name came up.
Yeah, it was it was kind of bad.
Does anybody want to tell them what happened?
You must be present to win.
Yes, that's what we heard yesterday.
You have to be present to win.
It was in the fine print.
I saw it.
Do not rewrite the rules.
Carol had already texted me.
I heard.
Carol already texted me.
I had to show up to make sure it does not happen.
Right.
Because John would say something like this.
And then.
You know, the thing that's great, Miguel, is like, we've got a group of individuals
that are being taught, trained by a lawyer.
They're all turning into lawyers.
You just saw it.
It's in the fine print.
I saw it on this slide.
It's here.
I love that.
It's so awesome.
I'm actually going to give up, give away two of those, so don't worry about it.
Remember the electronic business card that I showed you at the conference?
The conference.
Yeah.
You won it.
So I'm going to give away.
I was going to get one of those, man.
That's a blessing.
Yeah.
Those are.
I really love having it.
It's amazing.
So tomorrow I'm going to give away another one of those and then do the other prizes
as well.
So that's too funny.
That is too funny.
Let's see.
Is up.
Here's Alyssa.
I love that, John.
It's in the fine print.
I saw it.
So I don't, I don't know if you saw it, Peter, but I volunteered a couple dozen cookies to
give away as well.
Really?
They don't need, they don't need to be present to win.
Wow.
Hey, let's put that in.
We'll add that in tomorrow.
A couple dozen.
Are you serious?
Yeah.
So just one, one, one baker's dozen per person.
And you can give away one tomorrow and one Friday, however you want to.
You're so awesome, John.
That's awesome.
Just love it.
John, was it in the fine print that I get those too, like already by winning or.
Yeah.
Miguel, you know what I tell my father-in-law when we show up somewhere, he goes, where's
the cookies?
And I said, you know, Glenn, it's really strange.
Every time the money shows up, the cookies show up.
Kitchen.
Entrepreneur.
Right.
True.
Yeah.
You've been schooled.
You've been schooled twice now this morning, Miguel.
I keep a humble spirit.
I am so far behind Miguel.
Yeah.
It's just.
Yeah.
I love Miguel.
He's well down the road.
You know, when I went to the conference and I'll jump in like literally in a minute, I
just want to make sure Larissa is all set up first.
I got to make her co-host.
So I'm just kind of thank you for wrapping up the other thing, Larissa.
Can you guys just type in the chat just like thanks to Larissa?
Because I mean, honestly, for her to be doing this, it's awesome.
Like we've kind of exchanged like I put her in in the in the challenge, in the VIP.
She has direct access to me if she ever has, you know, direct questions, you know, so we
kind of swap.
But still, I mean, so courteous, so kind.
Just really.
Thank you, Larissa.
I really appreciate that.
My pleasure.
I mean, gosh, to hang with this fabulous, beautiful, intellectual, creative group of
people every day.
It's awesome.
Great for me.
Did you make me co-host, my friend?
I did.
I'm recording.
Please start recording.
All right.
Awesome.
Yeah, I already started it.
I because I do video editing anyway.
So I'm going to clip all this stuff.
Actually, you know what I'll do?
Yeah.
I'll just video edit it later.
So yeah, just real quick with Miguel.
Miguel and I met at the at the conference and he was so kind and courteous.
Like he was just really nice to me.
Like it was the first time I ever had exposure to the conference itself.
You know, had exposure to 100x, but never to conference.
And yeah, we just hit it off right then.
So yeah, just love you, brother.
You're awesome.
A lot of good people here.
So, um, we're going to jump into copyrights here, but this is your time.
So that means that you can ask on any topic.
Like if you want to hit copyright, you want to hit trademarks.
We're not going to hit patents today.
All right.
We're doing patents tomorrow, so I don't want to jump into patents yet.
Okay.
But since you're in VIP, I want to give you a head start on something
that you're going to see tomorrow.
Um, and so I'm going to give you a preview of something I already
shared in the Facebook group.
It's a scenario.
Has anybody seen that scenario yet?
Okay.
Uh, let me pull it up for you so you can actually see what I'm talking about.
So in the group, protect your idea challenge.
Let me share my screen.
While you're doing that, do you have, um, a good chunk of questions to address today?
If not, I've got the chat.
There were good questions and already.
Yeah, we can do both.
I have, I have some that were emailed to me and you can do the chat ones as well.
All right.
So under, uh, you should be able to see my screen right now, right?
That's the Facebook group.
You click on their guides and you scroll down, you'll see documents
for challenge and guide number two.
Click on scenario.
It's called burger town.
All right.
Get to know that today or tomorrow.
I'm going to go over it tomorrow, tomorrow live, but you're going to be shocked.
You're going to be shocked at when you read this, you're going to be able to spot
the legal issues as you're reading the scenario.
If I had showed you this scenario before we started, you'd probably
get maybe 20% of the legal issues.
So take a look at this today.
If you get a chance, cause you're in VIP.
So I want to give you a preview to it.
Just take a look at it.
And as you do, um, you're going to see, you're going to be able to spot check issues.
Why am I doing this with you?
Because the real world is not like what we're doing right now.
Like you don't get to sit down and in your specific situation, go, oh, well,
you know, issues a, B and C are here.
Now, let me do an analysis of that and determine whether or
not that's an issue or not.
Like in real life, you need to be able to spot the issues.
So what I do is I created a very simple scenario that I utilize that will allow
you in real life to spot situations.
As an example, like Rowena and other people who have been in the challenge
before, like as coaches, they go into situations and their, their people
identify situations to them and they immediately say, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
You can't show that at the trade show.
If you show that to trade show, you might violate, you know, the offer for sale
bar, cause you're offering it for sale.
Or, you know, you, if you should, if you're showing that logo,
you can't put the circle on it.
You don't have the federal registration yet.
You can get sued for tortious interference with business practice.
Like, this is the lingo that you're using as a hundred X coaches.
That's insane.
Like that is like, that does not happen.
Like people were typically talking about whatever they're coaching on, but now
you have knowledge in the area of intellectual property that you can
apply to guide your people.
And that's really intent of all this is to help you be able to do that.
Also a crush that use coach.
So, yes, that's right.
As a crush that you coach.
Absolutely.
I mean, as people are creating their funnels, you'd be able to say to them,
hold it, you've got the tick talk logo on the top of your funnel.
Are you crazy?
Like you, you can't do that.
Like now the people just don't, they didn't know beforehand.
So now that they have the knowledge, they're not going to take the
federally registered trademark of another party and put that, you know,
on the front of their funnel because they can get in trouble.
And obviously the people that are utilizing that there's they're very well
intentioned because they're trying to draw the audience.
And that's one of the best way to draw an audience is to use the trademarks of that
entity that you're trying to draw from, right?
The problem is it's called trademark infringement.
So you can't really do that.
There's ways to actually do that.
And so what I actually do, I actually guide people on funnels as well.
That's a separate thing that, that I do.
We can talk about another time.
Cause I don't want to waste your time right now.
This is your time.
So let's go, Larissa, where are you on my screen?
There you are.
Do you want to start sharing some of the chat questions and then
I'll go into the emails.
That question that came up before, while you're right there,
you said the word funnel, someone asked.
100X or a challenger, like Pedro gives us a framework funnel, but we fill it in and we make it our own.
Are we infringing his copyright? What happens there? Can we copyright our funnel?
Pedro is one of the most generous individuals I've ever met.
I mean, like, I can't tell you the internal stuff that I deal with, you know, with him legally, obviously, I mean, I have the honor of working with him directly.
But I can tell you that he is incredibly generous, like literally every single thing that you see, his worksheets, his flow charts, his copy, his funnels, his like, his audio, his like, I mean, all the stuff.
He technically could claim ownership to literally every single one of those things.
And he freely hands that stuff out just because he cares so much about you guys.
I mean that it's, it's kind of humbling.
It really is. Because if he wanted to, he could say, look, you can, you can absolutely be in this course, but if you want a copy of literally anything I've shown you, you've got to pay another $4.95.
And people would pay it.
They'd have no problem with it. They like, they would say, hold it, that worksheet literally just made my life exponentially easier.
So they would pay it as an OTO. In a second, they would go.
But he doesn't, like, there's certain things he does care about, like, you know, trademarks are very important to him, like, you know, certain, the looks of his funnels are important to him.
He doesn't want you like taking his content, like you should speak to him directly, but he would tell you, I don't want you taking my content and put it into your funnel because you're, you're essentially misrepresenting me, right?
Even if you're like, even if you're in a situation where, you know, he totally trusts, you should ask his personal permission for what kind of things you're taking.
But if you're taking the general format of the funnel and he's told you, hey, I'm putting this in ClickFunnels for you, just change the text, do yourself a big, a big favor, change the images, change the logos, like, don't use his images, like, don't use his logos, like, you know, the place where they belong, now make it your own.
And as you make it your own, at that point, you can now say, this is my copyright protectable work, because when you're doing a funnel, there's a general framework, right?
Like you have, you have your first statement, and there's usually a picture of the person there, or a video there.
And you know, that first statement is like an eye catcher, like, when I look at that, when that screen pops up, that top portion there, it better draw me in, because if you didn't draw me in here, then I'm not scrolling down.
So that whole layout of how he does it, you know, and then, and then where he puts about me, and where he talks about the product, and where he puts the price, those kind of things, if he's allowing you to utilize it in a funnel, just say thank you, that you have somebody who will actually give you that stuff, but then make it your own.
Don't, because I've seen situations where people have literally taken his stuff, practically word for word, and then slapped their name on it. And that's not, that's not good. That's just not good. Is he going to do something about it? Well, that's up to him, you know, but I just say make it your own. Okay. Is there a follow up question to that?
Yeah, he's got a good one. And you, you might just know, I have my own feeling being in the programs, when your coach or a certified consultant, five paid or a day out, when we teach his challenge framework, which he's given to us as part of the program, are we infringing?
You need to talk to them, you should talk directly to them, talk to Holly, talk to Scott, you know, because I don't know if you guys saw this recently, there was, there was an email that went out to all of us that talks about their own do it with you service that they're now providing.
You know, that's new. Like, that's, that's something that's new that they're doing. So, you know, I'm sure there's going to be certain things that they believe are important to them, and that they own. And so they're, you know, this is a, it's a growing phase for everybody. So everybody's trying to figure out what can I do? What can't I do? So, you know, just be honoring and reach out and just say, Hey, look, I've learned so much from you.
I'm doing training in this area as well. Obviously, I've, you know, I've taken your, your, your crush at you course. So I could be a certified, you know, representative of you, which portions can I use and which portions can't I use just be upfront. I mean, he is, again, like I have dealt for like 25 years with individuals who provide
content and protected and all, and he is ridiculously generous, like, you know, I mean,
he doesn't even put a copyright notice on most things. He just gives it to you guys. So, I mean,
I even, I was like reprimanding him before. It's like, what are you doing? Like, you know,
what if somebody else grabs it? He's like, whatever. He's just, I think for him, it's kind
of like the kingdom mindset. It's like, look, you know, I've been blessed with this. I want to bless
others. But at the same time, there's certain things that he believed is his own. So, I would
just reach out to him and ask. Coach Jennifer, I'm going to jump to you because I don't think
you got to ask the question in it earlier. So, go right ahead, my friend. Hi. Hi. So, some of these
I sent an email to you and it's sort of along these lines about this idea of funnels and work
we do with others. I understood what you said this morning about filing the copyright and kind
of how you figure out which category. I think my questions are probably more what feels like gray
area about who actually owns what and how to figure that out, right? Like even Pedro's funnels.
He's been very clear. He's like, you paid for the program. This was part of a bonus.
He gave us the template. Take it, use it. And he's gone so far as to say we could use it,
modify it, and use it in work we're doing for our own consulting clients. Right. All right. So, I
don't feel like that's in violation. But my questions are around, let's say someone else
builds a funnel for me. Who owns that work? Do they own it or do they own it? Okay. So, I could.
That's why you have to make sure they assign all right title and interest to you. That's why in my
own agreement, even with the own agency that I literally just started using, they didn't have
the language in the agreement that mentioned anything with regard to, you know, all right
title and interest or blah, blah, blah. I put it in there. I literally wrote it into my own agreement
and said, you know, and by all means, like they intended it to be there. They're just not lawyers.
But I don't know who's going to own their company in five years. I don't know who's going to own
their company in one year. And so, I can't think to myself, well, I know this guy. It's okay. I
don't have to worry about it. That person, you know, they may end up on an island. God bless
them. Hopefully, you know, they retire and they're incredibly well off. Now, I'm dealing with another
person. And that other person may not be that same kind of person. They may come out and say, hold it.
We own everything we create. If you want to own that funnel, you got to pay us a premium.
Right. And so, likewise for me, then for my consulting clients, when I'm designing their
their funnels, when I'm designing their ads and I'm doing that work for them, I then own that.
Correct? Yeah. But what you don't want to do, Jennifer, is you don't want to surprise them.
Because then people are going to just think you're slimy, right? And all of us here know
you're not. And so, what I would do is I would make sure, you know, upfront you have in your
agreement when you're working with them that you'll assign all right title and interest for
the funnel to them. Okay. You know, and in there, you can actually have the language that says,
however, I maintain all right title and interest to any of my original works that I possess before
engaging you. So, it's not like you're losing what you already have. You're just giving some
them some kind of new work that they can utilize, you know. But it's not, you don't want to end up
in a situation where you finish the agreement, you agree, you agreed upon the price, everything's
working really well, then all of a sudden, surprise! I own the rights to this. Then they're
going to go, whoa, whoa, what are you trying to do? Like, we already negotiated this. Like, just
do it upfront. You have, because you've been in this environment, you have knowledge that other
people do not have. So, you should be able to bypass all the issues. Right from the start,
you should be able to create your own agreements when you're working for somebody that says that
you're going to assign all right title and interest to others. And they're actually going to be
impressed that you even know that. Well, it seems like that would be a great value, like, to say to
them, like, look, I just want you to know, I'm going to do this. I'm going to help you. But my,
here's what we're going to do. You're actually going to own the work. So, that going forward,
you know, do what you want, rinse and repeat, hire somebody, you know, run the challenge or whatever.
It's yours. The ads, if we're running a course in their ad account, like it's in their ad account.
So, that to me says they own that as well. Even if I did the design work again, I would need to,
I see what you're saying, assign that to them. Just make sure of one thing, Jennifer, as you're
doing this, make sure that the works that you're doing for them are not generic. Make sure they're
very specific to what they're doing. Don't use a generic design and give it to somebody else and
then say they have the IP rights to that, because then you can't use the generic design.
All right.
There's two ways around this.
Number one, you can, in your agreement,
state that you maintain a non-exclusive license to all works that you
create.
So you're not just, you're not just assigning our right title and
interest over, but you're assigning our right title interest.
Plus you're maintaining a non-exclusive license to the work.
And to make derivative works of that work.
Okay.
So what that essentially is, is it's kind of like saying, look,
I'm going to sell you my car, but when I need the car, I can use it.
And you can't say anything about it. Matter of fact,
I can go to your house at three in the morning.
I can take the keys and I could take the car out of your driveway.
And you can't call the cops because I have legal rights to that,
but it's yours. It's totally yours. You can modify it.
You can do whatever you want.
The reason why you're maintaining that non-exclusive license is
specifically because you don't want them to come back at you at some
other point and say, hold it. You're modifying my work. That's my work.
You assigned all right. Title of interest. It's only mine.
So if you maintain a non-exclusive right,
a non-exclusive license to the original work,
this is where a lawyer becomes very important. You know,
you sit down with a lawyer once you have the whole layout done,
you have the right language, the right agreement,
and then you just use the same document.
You don't need the lawyer anymore. You do it once, get it done. Right.
Once then it's like copy, copy, change the party's name and address.
That's it. You know, that's how that's good business.
That's a good investment.
So what you want to do is just make sure for your agreement,
you assign all right title and interest,
but you maintain a non-exclusive license to the work that you created.
Plus any modifications or derivative works. The language is derivative.
Works.
You have to maintain a non-exclusive license to the derivative works.
If you do that, then by all means, they can do whatever they want.
You can't stop them and you can do what you want and they can't stop you.
That makes it a perfect relationship. That's called a win-win.
Nobody has any problems.
So what if they take, uh,
I make a funnel for them and my client runs into your dentist example.
Right. So, you know, and they go, Oh, well, I, I own this funnel.
You can use it. It's mine. They told me it's mine. Sure.
You can just copy it and, you know, put in your own stuff.
Like would that, is that get covered then or not?
Ask me that again. Cause I didn't really follow that. So, okay.
So let's say I have the funnel for somebody. Yeah. That's the first step.
All right. And then what happens?
And as you said, we have, we have this agreement.
And then my client, uh,
meet someone else in their same industry or any other industry.
And they said, Oh, I've got a funnel. I've done this before. Sure.
Hold on. Hold on right there. Hold on right there. You said your client,
your client, that's the same client that you created the funnel for. Yes.
Meet somebody else in the industry. Yeah.
Someone else that I know their neighbor there, whatever.
And that other party says what.
And my client says to this other person, their neighbor, their whoever.
I have a funnel you can use. You can just copy it all.
They can do whatever they want. They can do that. Okay.
Once you assign a right title and interest, they have all rights.
They have rights to the original work.
Okay.
And they can do that all day long unless they can make any,
any modifications to the derivative work all day long.
Nothing you can do about it.
Okay.
That's why I see.
This is why I wanted you guys to understand what's actually happening.
This is why copyrights are so important.
You have to make sure that you are okay.
When you're creating a work for another party,
you're okay with them modifying it, selling it.
You're okay with them modifying it.
You didn't even know this existed.
Now, you know, so now you need to make a business decision.
If you're going to make a.
If you're going to make a, if you're not speaking,
if you can mute your line, that'd be awesome. Thanks.
So if you're going to.
Enter into an agreement with another party.
You need to determine how am I going to feel about that work that I
created?
And then you need to decide, okay,
I'm going to modify it myself.
Are you okay with that?
Or is that going to bother you?
Are you okay with your competition?
Getting a copy of that and modifying it.
If you're okay with that,
then you can assign all right title and interest.
If you're not okay with that,
then what you're giving is called a non-exclusive license only.
And this is the right to make a derivative work means you can modify it.
If you want to say, Hey, look, this is yours.
To utilize all you want. And anytime you want to modify it,
you got to come back to me.
Right.
Then you want to maintain the right to all derivative works.
Okay.
So that's what the non-exclusive license agreement says.
No rights to derivative works are provided.
Now, I mean, but you gotta be careful, right?
You're trying to build a business.
If you get so restrictive,
people are not gonna wanna work with you, okay?
With that, let me go to another person
because there's a lot of questions today.
Awesome, thank you so much.
Oh, my pleasure, my pleasure.
Danielle, let me go to you
and then I'm gonna jump into some of these
Facebook emailed questions to me as well.
Hey, Peter.
Hello, my friend.
How are you?
Hello, chief.
All right, there are a lot of people
who are either creating courses or writing funnels,
the copyright for their ads,
but they're using things like Jasper,
the AI copywriters, right?
That you plug in something and it spits it back out.
Yeah, yeah.
Are they able to copyright that?
I think that's important for people to think about
because they're using Canva for images.
That's a great question.
All right, so I actually write a ton of patents
in artificial intelligence,
like neural networks and understanding all the nuances
of how this is actually working at the memory phase
and creative works.
There's a whole body of law that is focused on AI.
Whole new, I mean, it's fairly new
and there's a lot of fights that are going on,
a lot of fights.
Like Danielle, this is a very active area of the law
and there's still some shaping and forming
that's being done.
So I think what I might do is maybe drop one or two links.
Larissa, if you could DM me,
I might drop one or two links
that are on this exact subject matter
because it's a very hot area
where there's a lot of litigation.
So I'll tell you in general,
in general, for these machines to actually,
or for these systems to actually create the final work,
you have to enter something.
And so one line of argument is that the creativity
is on the side of the entering of the information
that results in the finished work.
That's one side of the argument,
but then there's a whole other side of the argument,
which is the person who actually owns the software
who is saying, well, yeah,
you may have entered in five words,
but I created a 350 page or 350 word document
based on those five words.
So therefore I own the copyright.
Those are the two different sides of the argument.
It's leaning towards,
it's leaning towards the ownership being on the side
of the party that's entering the data
if what they're entering is a creative work.
Like if all you're entering is shoes, dog, New Hampshire,
and all of a sudden like a 500 page book comes out,
you didn't really like create Jack.
Like you just, you know, that's so far away
from the actual creation of creative work
that I would say in that situation,
it may be more likely.
And just so you know, Danielle,
again, this is a very hot area.
It's right in there with NFTs.
NFTs is a whole other, like so hot,
like lots of law that's being creative right now,
literally right now in this area.
And so it typically, typically what they do
is they look at how much exactly did you create
or did you enter into the creative work?
If what you entered really is like de minimis,
then you're not gonna own the copyright.
If what you entered in is more substantive,
chances are a lot higher
that you're gonna own the copyright.
That's generally the balance that's happening right now.
But I'm telling you, Danielle,
you hit on probably one of the top two,
if not the number one biggest issue in copyright right now,
because they're trying to figure this out.
I mean, there are software programs
that can do amazing things just by knowing your background.
Like, you know, you just, you give it your bio, boom,
an entire like software app is created
based on your desires and everything.
It's like, it's amazing.
So the question is who owns that?
Right, yeah, because if you look at-
If the majority of the work is being done by the software,
it might be the software company.
Yeah.
If you're doing, yeah, it depends.
I asked the question because, you know, if you,
and I'll just pick on Jasper, right, which was Jarvis.
You go there and they tell you, you pay this
and you can pump in these words so that we write,
whether it's your bio, a blog for you, your marketing,
go use this, right?
Yeah, yeah.
And you can tweak the words out
because it doesn't write it perfect, but that's false.
If you're not reading the terms and that's false illusion
that you have the right to it.
Well, keep this in mind though, Danielle,
when you sign up for-
Those programs, a lot of those programs have already considered this issue,
and they have a copyright notice in the, in the app.
You have to look at the legal jargon.
Like there are software applications like dragon naturally speaking.
And like, um, there's some online ones that I'll take my, like my video here
and then just create, you know, a, um, a, an entire writeup of every
single word that was spoken.
Right.
But in that app, when you subscribe to it, it specifically says, all right.
Title and interest is assigned to you as a subscriber of the service.
And we do not maintain any other rights except a non-exclusive
license to create the work for you and to store it for future use.
So what you want to do is any of the software apps that you're using,
especially online, most of them have thought of this already, because
there, there are a lot of people that are incredibly creative that are using them.
And they've thought because they know copyright law, they've said, this is an
issue I don't want to run into a problem.
So for that reason, you look, you've got to look at the legal jargon.
And then on top of that, just call them up and say, Hey, I'm using your software
here, this is what's going on.
I want to make sure I own the copyright.
Where's that in your legal terms.
I'm telling you like 90% of the companies will have already addressed
this because if you're in copywriting, if you're in creating works, people
are asking these questions because you know, the people that are at the top
echelon, they understand these legal issues.
All right.
Yeah.
And that's why I brought it up because I think so many people are using stuff
like that and video editing things that are very simple to do, and they're
not reading the terms and that's the answer is you got to go back to the
terms for everything you're using right now, because what you're even
creating may not be yours now.
Oh, I know.
It may be.
Yeah, I know.
I know for me it is.
Yeah.
I know that's why I don't put it on Facebook.
Yeah.
So the question about that, Peter, like what if she does that?
It spits it out and then we modify it.
Like what I do with that is I'll put in words, I get content and then I tweak it.
Yeah.
So it goes back again, coach Karen, it goes back to who owned the original work.
If, if the, if the, if the software entity owned the original work and you modify
it, you're violating their copyright.
This is why I'm telling you most of these companies have in their legal terms,
specifically who owns the copyright and the rights to derivative works for
modification, they address it right in there because what they don't want is you
subscribe to their service for like $600, $900 a year, whatever it is.
And then all of a sudden they don't want to be suing you for using their service
to create a work that they're trying to make you, they're trying to make you an
affiliate.
They don't want to sue you.
You know, they want to get you to get more people to come to them.
So most of the times you're going to see in their legal terms, they've
already addressed this Libby.
Let's go to you.
I'm going to take one more here and then I'm going to go to some that are written
ones.
And then I'll come back to the questions here.
Go right ahead, Libby.
How are you?
Hello?
Well, I'm still, I mean, when I shared earlier,
it's like four in the morning and it's like, I can't make my head and my words
together.
You wouldn't like the ambitious award.
Like you really do.
It's amazing.
Wow.
Just want to celebrate you.
That's awesome.
I could tell you were up late last night because I could see where I was going on.
Like I read it here.
It must be, you know?
Yeah.
So I, right after we finished, what I do is I then go into like, it has to be
finished processing and zoom.
And then I download it and go into my video editing software and modify things.
But the intros, the, you know, all that other stuff, cut out things that I don't
think that should be there.
Um, and then I create the final work, but then after that's created, it has to be
rendered.
So then once it's, it takes like an hour and a half to render like a 4k, you know,
40 gig, um, thing.
And I have like a $2,500 computer that actually does all this.
And then after that, you then have to upload it.
So then it has to be uploaded and then processed, which takes like another hour
and a half.
So when it crashed, I said, are you kidding me?
So I tried it again.
And then at three in the morning, I said, it's processing.
I'll get back to it later.
So in any case, everybody will have everything.
So please appreciate it.
Thank you.
My true pleasure.
My pleasure.
So thank you.
Um, so my question actually dovetails on to what D was asking and that's to do
with Canva, which is the graphic, you know, the print and they have photographs.
So I will upload my own photos, me, my people, my whatever's, you know, that
I've got permission for, or, um, you know, I've got from 20 years ago or, you
know, like, yeah.
what happens with like that?
And then of course, you know,
that's where we're putting like our Facebook ad things
and now, you know, then we've got our copy in there
and like, yeah, I was just wondering about,
yeah, that whole.
Yeah, so Canva is another one that I actually
just pulled up Canva to see if I could find their license.
Thank you.
And there it is.
Here's how you can use Canva images.
There we go.
I think I just found it.
Wow, thank you, Lord.
Wow.
That's amazing.
Wow, what are the, you know what I've learned over time?
You know how we use that phrase, what are the chances?
With God, the chances are 100% all the time.
It's like, whew, it's so good.
I'm gonna drop a link for all of you.
So it says over here,
licenses for using Canva content in your designs.
This is the actual license that's on Canva.
Tells you what's allowed.
It says you can use our content in a Canva design
for a wide range of personal and commercial uses.
You can use our content in marketing and social media
or even sell merchandise with your design in it.
Don't resell, redistribute, or take credit
for an unaltered media provided through Canva,
but you can modify it in which case you would own it.
So I am gonna drop this in the chat.
That's amazing that that popped up.
Wow.
And there you go.
You ask and you shall receive.
There it is.
That's the actual licensing terms for Canva.
Yeah, so any of your software applications,
especially the ones that are well-known, you know,
strong apps, they're gonna have licenses in terms.
Why?
Because there are people like, you know, me,
and now you that are asking these questions.
They wanna know, well, hold it.
You know, that image that you're gonna see tomorrow,
an image that I love.
Like when I see that image, I'm like, yeah,
I wanna go there.
Like, it's just, it's incredible.
It's a digital image that was created by, not Canva,
but another outfit.
And I found it.
And when I saw it, I was like, I want that.
Like, that is mine.
I wanna make that my own.
So I actually went into like their licensing terms
and all their stuff.
And I actually obtained a non-exclusive license to it
so I could use it anytime I want.
Cause it's so perfect for what I'm doing.
It's just so perfect.
So I have the right to modify it,
do derivative works, do whatever I want,
but I paid for it.
And so when you use Canva, you're paying for that service.
And in that payment, you're actually getting
a non-exclusive license for certain things.
So follow that link and you'll see exactly
what you're getting rights to, okay?
Okay, thank you so much.
Appreciate that.
You are so welcome, Libby.
Karen, why don't I go to you first
and then I'm gonna jump into some
of these other questions here.
Okay, thank you.
Absolutely, how are you?
I'm well, thank you.
Good.
I have a question because my background
is kind of in entertainment and academia.
And I'm trying to create like a very creative
educational content.
And so I'm trying to figure out and find the balance
between at least what I'm familiar with.
So I know that a lot of people here are coaches
and so they might also be in like a similar situation.
If we're trying to create educational content
of some sort that utilizes facts
from people who maybe have published their works,
that's how we've come across their information.
Are we able to utilize that in some capacity?
If you sort of adopted as your own
and you're not just like a complete copying
and would it be enough to simply sort of quote the person
as you would like an academia and just say,
this idea or these things were from this person
in this book, like what is the balance a person
like me could find in a situation like that?
Yeah, it's a good question.
So what you're actually asking is called,
it falls under the fair use doctrine.
So the question is what falls under fair use?
That's really what you're asking.
And so what I think I'm gonna do for all of you,
Larissa, can you type this or DM me on this
and just say, drop link for fair use.
So fair use, it's a unique area in copyright law
and it's an exception.
It's very different.
It's not like any other area, right?
What it essentially says is that there's certain material
you wanna utilize for basically teaching purposes
or informational purposes.
You're not making any money on it.
there's not enough time to actually go and get a license for it, it's for a short period of time,
you know, the benefit really is for informative purposes, it's not, it's kind of, it's kind of
why newspapers can publish things at the, in a second and not worry about getting sued, you know,
it falls into this fair use area, and so there's certain things that fall into fair use, the
question is you got to determine as an educator what exactly does fall in the fair use, and you
have to remember that fair use, again, it's an exception to the rule, it's not the rule,
so that means when you're looking at fair use issues, you've got to be absolutely sure that
your situation falls into a fair use exception, so what I'm going to do for all of you is I'm
going to post the rules for fair use, it actually gives you the checklist, if you check does it fall
into this category, this, and this, if it does, then you can use the material, and you don't have
to worry about it, if it doesn't fall into that exact scenario, it does not, because I can literally
spend like a month teaching all of you about fair use, it's a, it's a highly litigious area of
copyright law, but as an educator, what you want to be able to do is, like, let's say as an example,
you want to talk about Beethoven, right, and so you say, all right, well, Beethoven this, Beethoven
that, you're just talking in general with regard to the individuals, right, but let's say instead
you want to copy some of the material in, like, a book from an individual, so let's say that, you know,
Joanie, Joanie has a book, and so you say, well, I want to let people know about the book, and so you can
go out there and say, well, Joanie just created a new book, and it's called, you know, Running Home,
something like that, right, and so you can do that, and then you could also kind of give a general
description, you know, it talks about an individual who once was loved by his parents, and then left,
and tried to make it on his own, and then blah, blah, and like, you start to talk about all this stuff,
and so you're kind of, like, summarizing at a top level what's it about, but the fact of the matter
is that you cannot copy parts of her book and put it into your publication, because when you do that,
that's copyright infringement, so you have to determine how much can I disclose, how much
can I not disclose, like, it's a balancing test, and that's really where fair use falls in.
You have to figure out where in the balancing test you fall, so because you asked a question,
what I'm going to do is I'm going to publish something for you in the Facebook group that
will talk a little bit about fair use, and just kind of give you exactly what's needed to qualify,
because if you don't fulfill those exact requirements, you can get sued, so it's, yeah.
Do you think that, because I felt like, you know, more comfortable doing it if I was actually, like,
employed at a school teaching, you know, in a public school, for example, but now that most
of us are kind of not in that arena, and we're more in, like, the entrepreneurial arena, and
therefore, in a sense, we are probably collecting some money for what we do, does that sort of
automatically disqualify us? Not necessarily. I mean, it really comes down to the factors,
regardless. I mean, when you're hired by a school, the nice part is that a lot of them have some
kind of liability associated with it, where, you know, the school will pick up the liability
for some issues, but regardless, it's still an analysis on the fair use issue, so whether or
not there's an indemnification for what you do doesn't mean you're going to or are not going to
be sued, right? So the question, the first question is, are you going to be sued, yes or no?
After you get past that question, then you can determine if there's indemnification.
Indemnification, for those who don't know, that means there's a third party that essentially is
going to pick up the liability for what you're doing. So let's say patent infringement is
committed, a third party is going to pick up the bill, or let's say you commit trademark infringement
or copyright infringement, a third party is going to pick up the bill. If you're liable or, you know,
you have to pay damages, a third party is going to pick up the bill. That's what's called
indemnification, all right? Very important term when you're dealing with agreements with other
parties, where you're assigning or you're giving somebody a non-exclusive license to use
something that you own, you do not want to have an indemnification agreement in there.
If you do and they do something wrong and they get sued, you now have to pay for their lawyers
and pay the damages for what they did. Do not put indemnification agreements or do not put
indemnification terms in your agreements, I would say ever, if you can get away with it.
It's so... because you essentially become liable for somebody else's actions.
Why would you do that? Like, why take that chance? I wouldn't. So...
So to answer your question, Karen, which is a very good one for most educators, it's just it's a really important question.
It's always going to be a fair use question. It's just like the information that I am teaching that the information that I'm showing you.
Does it fall under fair use? If it does, I'm fine. Don't have to worry about it. Don't have to worry about copyright infringement or anything.
I'm just kind of giving you some information about a person and some stuff that's publicly available and there's no ownership issues and I can't get sued.
But if it's not that situation. Now you can start running into some problems.
And so you really want to make sure you do a good assessment.
When it comes to potential copyright infringement and the exception to that, which is fair use.
OK, so I'm going to publish something for you along those lines.
It seems like in particular, because now we're all online, like one of the things then we would have to think about is even if I'm teaching and I or in my challenge or my course, whatever.
And I quote a book or I show a clip from a video or something like that. That's for educational purposes.
That's under fair use. I can do that. But if I turn around and then sell those recordings and that is in that recording.
You got it. Come on. So it's kind of like you got Jennifer, you got it.
See, this is now you're understanding where lawyers make money like.
All right. Because it's not usually as simple as yes, filed copyright application.
Don't file a copyright application. The question is now I have this work.
Now, what's happening with that work? Like is somebody making a copy of it?
Are they going to utilize it when I give a non-exclusive license? How are they using it?
Did I indemnify them? Did I not? You know, if it was readily available to the public and I utilized it under fair use,
you know, two years down the road when I actually put that in my Kajabi back end and I and I sell a membership to times where I discuss this issue.
Can it be argued that I'm actually gaining a benefit from that, a financial gain from that?
So now that that thing that was, quote unquote, fair use that I utilized in my presentation.
Now people are paying X amount of money to get into that.
So did I now start making money on something that was fair use?
Did it change from fair use to now not fair use because I am making a financial gain?
Like these are the things you need to think about as you grow.
Like when you're in your beginning phases, you're kind of like, you know, I have one video.
I'm not too worried about something. But as you grow and the people here are coaching many people.
Like there's not a lot of people here who are just solos, you know, and solos are awesome.
I'm just saying that a lot of you here are responsible for a lot of other people.
So as that means that your growth is likely going to slope up pretty fast as they realize that what you're providing is not just your service,
but you understand the IP issues, you understand these other issues.
You're going to stand out. They're going to say, you know, OK, well, yeah.
You know, I wanted to create this this work for a funnel or whatever.
But, man, I worked with such and such.
And oh, my gosh, like she she actually was talking about trademark issues and copyright issues.
And and like she was telling me that legal notices on the bottom of and I can use Canva in this situation, but I can't use that in that situation.
Like that changes you from this level to like this level.
That's a higher echelon service that you're providing. Right.
So now you should charge a premium for that because now you're not normal.
You're not you're not the typical. You have moved up.
So now that you've moved up, you know, people should know that.
And that's when they start really hunting for you.
But the big question is, you know, when you're when you're meeting with these people as a coach, you want to talk about what's your business plan?
Are you going to use this video just once or are you going to turn it into something bigger?
Like what's going to happen here? Go into those kind of questions because nobody else is going to be asking those questions.
You will. That makes you unique and it increases your value and it helps them.
I mean, at the end of the day, you're just helping your who.
And every time I say that, I think of Dr. Seuss. So which, by the way, is trademarkable because it's a series.
There you go. Good to know.
But even in our own challenges. Right. Like if you think about, you know, you start and you go, hey, I'm going to have this pump up song.
Right. Like we've been to live conferences. Right. The virtual ones that Pedro has done. Right.
Like and he's always Pedro is smart, though.
Pedro understands all this stuff. So he gets licenses to all this.
He he doesn't just go playing music for no reason. Like he gets the permission.
He knows what he's doing. Right. But for us, it's like you can see.
I'll just run a challenge. I'll play this really fun song. Do everybody jazzed up the stop?
Well, you better not be recording that. Right. You can play it, but don't start your recording until.
I'm telling you, I have a healing ministry, right?
I mean, it's God's healing ministry, right?
But when I would start the sessions,
which I do on Google Zoom,
and people would be healed of, you name it,
like literally anything, like it was all God, right?
I would play background music, okay?
I would play, like I said, a song from like Bethel
or a song from whatever other group, right?
I'd play it in the background.
William Augusto, oh my gosh, adore his music.
Like talk about soaking music, it will wreck you.
Just play William Augusto.
Man, incredible.
So I play it as soaking music in the background.
People come in, like the presence, and this is online.
Come in, presence of the Lord, so powerful.
People getting healed, all sorts of stuff happening.
I go to upload that into YouTube
so as to inspire others to understand of the power of God
and how people are being healed today.
It's not just something that was in the Bible.
Like it's now, right?
I get a copyright infringement notice
the second I did that, literally, from YouTube,
because YouTube saw that in the background
that was William Augusto's music.
So what did I do?
I shot him an email and said, hey, bro, love your music.
Just made a contribution to you on PayPal,
to you and your wife, just want to honor you.
By the way, I'm doing this healing stuff here.
And is it okay if I use your music?
He never said yes or no.
He just kind of went about his business
because he has like millions of followers.
And so I just continued using it.
Now, could he one day come out and say,
hey, that's copyright infringement.
I want you to stop.
Absolutely.
And do I have any financial gain?
Nope.
So what would the damages be?
Now, I'm not telling you to commit copyright infringement.
That's not what I'm saying.
What I'm saying is there are situations
where you're doing certain things
that don't comply with the law.
You shouldn't do those things,
but you need to do an assessment of what happens
when you do those things.
It's just beneficial to know.
And in that situation,
I have zero doubt that if William Augusto
looked at some of those videos himself,
he would in a second give me permission.
Because that's why he creates the soaking music
in the first place, right?
And I'm already contributing to him.
So in that case, I made an assessment and I said,
I'm going to leave those videos up.
But as I go forward, I don't use background music
because I know this, unless I have a license to it.
Okay?
And with that, I want to answer one or two questions here
before I go to you, Larissa.
Ones that I received by email.
See if I can grab that up.
I have a question and you can look and see,
because Patricia put a question in just right along that.
Yeah, I'm already ready.
I want to jump into this.
I haven't had a chance to answer these out loud.
So one of them, let me just go into Judy.
Okay, so I just want to go into Judy's question here
because I think other people might run into this.
So it says, someone was going to buy a painting.
Then they moved.
So asked me to delay the sale and shipping.
Then they sent a photo showing they had taken my painting
and used it as the design for their tattoo
and will no longer be needing the painting.
Okay.
So I want to go through that situation
because a copyrightable work, when you own a copyright,
you own all derivative works.
You own all forms of it, all copying of it.
I don't care if it's a tattoo
or they put it on toilet paper,
or if they like, you know, make an image of it in the sky,
whatever it is, you own that work.
So legally making a tattoo that's utilizing the image
from a painting is a violation of copyright law.
So she could literally, which actually I would pay
to be in that case in court.
That would be hilarious.
Because I'd like to know if you win that case,
I'd like to know what happens.
Like financially, I can see compensation,
but can you actually say,
I want that tattoo removed from your body
because that's my copyrightable work?
I'd really like to see that case,
to see how far the judge would go.
Would the judge actually make them have a procedure
to remove the tattoo from their body
because it actually is a copyrightable work?
That would be hilarious.
So in any case, that would be a violation
of a copyrightable work.
Larissa, go ahead.
I just wanted to jump into that one
because I know people who are dealing with,
I have this and somebody's making a copy,
but it's not in the same format.
Like I create a painting,
then somebody puts it on their website.
Or I do, I take a picture and somebody turns it into like a movie, you know,
they're showing it in a movie.
Like those are, you don't have the right to do that.
You can't, I mean, even if I'll give you, I'll give you a really complicated
example, and then I'll go to you, Larissa, really complicated situation.
If I had a painting and I had it right behind me and you're watching my video,
And then you take a picture of that and you cut me out and you take that painting
and now you go forward and you sell that painting, that's a violation of my
copyright of a work because you saw my painting and you took it from a video
rendition of my painting there.
And then from that, you created a work and sold it.
That's a violation of my copyright.
So then you're probably asking, well, hold it.
What about all the paintings that I've bought and I'm doing a
video and people can see them.
Well, you have a right.
You have a right.
When you purchase something to that work, there's certain things you can do.
And if it just happens to be in the background, well, so be it.
That's different from if the entire show is about that painting.
Those are two different things.
There there's a balance test that you have to consider, right?
That, that, those are areas you need to talk to a lawyer.
You can't kind of like if your entire show is going to be showing a painting
that you purchased and that's your entire show and you're charging $10,000
for annual membership, you know, to the show, and you're just going to talk
about every single aspect of the painting.
The question is, is that okay?
Well, I would argue, yeah, I bought the painting.
It's my show.
I can show it.
I can do whatever I want with the painting.
I bought it.
I think that's a fair argument, but I think at the same time, the original
owner is probably going to get a little ticked off that you're, you know,
you're utilizing in a certain way.
I don't think they could win.
Um, regardless, but it's, it's just, that's the area of the law that
become, you have to ask is a new work being created, I would argue
that's not a new work being created.
The subject matter of my work is the work that I purchased.
So I wouldn't think that's an issue, but anyways, Larissa, go ahead.
You've addressed it a lot.
Um, the background music question is kind of hot in the chat.
Um, I think most of us know this, but you can't use like live stream,
copyrighted music to Facebook.
They will shut you down.
That's correct.
Right.
And YouTube, they'll shut you down.
TikTok whole other world, right?
You're not supposed to do it, but TikTok doesn't care.
You, I can, I can take, you know, myself talking and saying, you know,
myself talking and somebody will throw it on their video or you can take
literally snippets of music and put it on your videos, they don't care.
I don't, I don't actually understand how that's working.
Um, but at any case, I just had a flicker over here.
Can all you guys see me still?
Yeah, you're fine.
I don't know if you just saw that.
We just had a flicker in the power.
That was interesting.
Okay.
So how could one use music in their background and inquire the legal rights to use it?
Okay.
So let me do this for you.
I think one of the things I asked you to DM me was, um, to, to give all of you that
site, right?
I think that was one of the things that I asked.
Yeah.
You didn't tell me.
Yes.
Yeah.
So I'm going to actually share it now so everybody can see it.
Uh, edit post actually just posted it in something that you're going to find about
tomorrow as he posted it there.
Um, they, they get this stuff, like they get a lot of stuff.
So let me, um, do this.
Can I grab it?
Or maybe I can just press it.
Yeah. Let me just press it.
I'm going to post it for you now.
Okay. This is the site, right?
Click go here.
Copy go into here, paste.
If you go into this site right there, you can get music that you can, you can pay a
certain amount for a certain amount of time.
And it's extremely reasonable guys.
I'm saying like, like, I'm not even exaggerating really reasonable.
And you can go in there and you can, you can download any of the music that falls
underneath that specific subscription and the sounds and anything and use it in any
of your works.
Just check out the site.
It's, it's really good.
A lot of, uh, high end artists, you to use it when they create really good looking like
YouTube videos or, or, um, or, um, TikTok videos or other things like that.
This is one of the, one of the places they'll go.
All right.
I would.
One more question, and then I'm going to jump off because yesterday we went like three hours.
So I want to stop. John, you're up, my friend. Good.
So a follow-up question to this, but when you get those rights,
how does YouTube or Facebook know that you have those rights?
You know, because they'll hear it and they'll say, oh, that's copyrighted.
But I'm like, and how do I get through that?
All right. So are you asking from the perspective of the person who owns the copyright?
Are you asking from the perspective of the one who's violating the copyright?
No. So I'm asking, I go to this site, I buy permissions to have this type of music.
I put it, I stream it on my Facebook.
Yeah, I upload to YouTube and they go, can't put that on there.
Right, right.
Wait a minute. I have it.
Yeah. So you can actually go through an appeal process,
in which case they ask you for your license,
and then you can actually give them your license information.
Okay. I've had that happen before.
Okay. And then the other thing that caused me just questions related to Facebook,
you said, we don't read what's resigned and we're like, sign everything away.
And so what's the levels you do a live on there?
They obviously own that.
You're on there, you're streaming.
You're going to be clear.
Just to be clear with that language they own,
what I'm saying is they get a non-exclusive license.
They don't, like, they can't stop you from using it.
Yeah.
But they have a non-exclusive license to use it any way they want,
make derivatives, do anything like that.
But I just want to be careful on using that word own,
because they don't technically own it.
They have a non-exclusive license to use it.
You still own it.
Go ahead.
So what happens now if I generate, if I start in Zoom,
and then I stream that into Facebook, do they still have a non-exclusive?
That's why I don't do it, brother.
I mean, honestly, it would be so much easier for me.
So much easier for me to just click that button on the bottom of my screen
and say share to Facebook.
I wouldn't have to do video editing.
I wouldn't have to do clipping.
I wouldn't have to polish it.
Nothing.
I can just run it there and I'd be done.
I can just go back, you know, after I'm done with this,
like I'm going to be doing work for a law firm now.
I'm going to get off in, like, you know, literally two minutes and start work for them.
And so I'd be done.
But the fact of the matter is I know that they can then take my work
and do literally anything I want.
Matter of fact, they could create a course and then sell it to lawyers.
They can advertise it to lawyers and lawyers could say,
oh, my gosh, I'm teaching on IP.
I want that.
Then I can start doing, you know, challenges on stuff like that.
And then I can't stop them.
There's nothing I could do.
That's why I do this.
But I mean, the main reason for me is the information that I'm teaching you is
it's extremely important for purposes of being successful,
you know, in businesses, but also to make sure you don't get sued.
Like part of the reason why I'm doing this is because I don't want you to need a lawyer.
Like I've seen situations where like mom and pop shops start up,
use their retirement money, build something,
and then all of a sudden lose it all, literally all of it.
And all they had to do beforehand was like a trademark search or a patent search
or follow a copyright application.
It was so simple and they just didn't know.
So I want to make sure that the content that I'm delivering is delivered the right way,
not provided to you.
So that's either A, abused or B, improperly used.
Because if people improperly using it, then that's a mess, too.
You know, then you've got people starting a corporation believing they need to spend
$100,000 per year on intellectual property when they don't.
It's like, could you do all these things?
Yeah, by all means.
But don't file five patents.
What's your core technology?
File it on that and then determine whether or not you need to do a continuation or continuation
of part later.
We'll talk about that tomorrow.
But it's really important for this to be packaged the right way.
For that reason, I don't want it just sitting in somebody else's network
because then they can take clips and then use it the wrong way.
And people can go crash because they're wasting money on lawyers
or they just don't understand the concepts properly.
That's why I'm spending so much time with you to make sure you get it.
Yeah.
It's that cost avoidance.
I have a phrase of lawyers at all costs.
Yes.
I got sucked into a lawsuit.
Somebody sued me for stealing stuff that wasn't trademarked or cost me $30,000
to defend against something that was frivolous.
Jeez.
And that's cheap, John.
John, that's cheap.
I'm in a trademark lawsuit right now.
They're going to spend over half a million dollars.
Easy.
I mean, it's ridiculous.
That money should not be getting spent on this stuff.
Use it on resources you need for your company, your employees, upgrading your software,
your back end, going on vacation.
Don't use it on lawyers.
Do what we talked about earlier.
Get your one agreement done properly.
so that you can then modify that one agreement
for each party you're working with.
And then if you're concerned about something,
then you visit the lawyer and you're like,
you know, I now have a partner in my company.
So I'm a little concerned with regard
to this corporate formation thing.
Do I need to modify something?
Now their expertise are gonna be incredible.
You know, like everybody hates a lawyer
except their own lawyer, right?
And so it's like, it's like, you know,
cause when you need them, you need them.
Like you're just going, hold it, I might lose everything.
I need my lawyer.
So by all means, what I'm trying to do is make it
so that you know enough to identify the issues.
You can get rid of some issues
that are not necessary to look at
and then focus on what you do need to focus on.
And for those issues, get those to your lawyer.
Those are the ones that are important.
Get those hashed out.
And now that they're hashed out,
you can repeat them over and over and over
cause you did it right once.
That is a smart business plan.
You know, you don't wanna just throw money away
when it comes to, you know, cars, insurance, you know,
lawyers, like you don't wanna just throw the money away.
Do it right.
If you got insurance issues or money issues, talk to Rami.
That guy is insane.
I mean, like I had a phone call with him just to catch up.
You know, we were talking about his sister
and other stuff like that, who was in law.
What this guy knows is it's intimidating.
Like he knows a lot in that area.
And so talk to that guy, incredible resource.
You know, you're talking about challenges, talk to Pedro.
That guy is fierce.
You know, when you have issues with IP,
you've got access to the assistance, all right?
All right, and with that,
I'm gonna let all of you go, my friends.
Bless you all.
You should be seeing those.
Those videos are starting to upload.
Everything should be,
you should be able to start seeing the repeats, okay?
All right, have a good night.
Take care.