Just so that I can see you.
All right, I'm going to give you a host.
Make you a host.
Do you want to change the host?
The host is what the host is.
All right.
We'll let some people in.
You're the host.
Okay, awesome.
You're all set.
You're good to go.
I'm going to close something here.
Just take a minute.
You know what would be really helpful?
If you can just, the VIP, people in VIP here have a very different experience.
They have a real engagement.
I like to see if you can, I'm going to close something off here that has to do with the group here.
That has to do with the portal.
While I'm doing that, which is going to take about three or four minutes, can you just ask them to give feedback on how they're implementing?
Like if all of you can just kind of give like a word on how you've been implementing things and what you're seeing.
What are the results of the things that you've been implementing in your own daily practice?
Like either with your people or you personally.
I'd like to see that to be here in the recordings because I want to be able to watch that as well later to see which things are you immediately grasping.
And then how this is transforming, you know, your own, either your own businesses or the people that you're working with.
I just want to kind of see how that's playing out.
So while I'm handling this thing for all of you on the side, I'm going to kind of turn off my screen.
And then if you can partake in that, just kind of raise your hand and give some feedback on that.
That'll be helpful. I think it's going to help a lot of people.
Awesome. So raise a hand who would like to, just like Peter said, how are you starting to use anything?
Go ahead. Coach Jen Flannery. She's going to keep it on gallery.
Hey, so, yeah, so some of the things I've already put into use, just this is only day five of the challenge.
Things I've already done. Number one, I made myself a checklist.
I sort of started, I guess, what Peter's calling an idea spotting list.
And I made myself a chart. And on the one side is a list of all the things I currently know or even things I think I might want to know.
Right. Like ideas that I've recently been downloaded, things I want to do going forward, even as I'm getting started my tech.
And I basically started a list down the left and then made a chart across the top of which one do I need to research?
What do I know? Does it need a policy? Does it? And I basically just made a giant grid kind of out of it.
I just started that template that's been already. I think this has been huge for me thinking about value.
I can add in particular to my challenge consulting clients.
Huge. And I have a meeting with a client just in about I hope she's going to be a client next week.
And so looking forward to how to put that in. And then what we were talking about today, about adding this like a clause on the intake form of what IP property do you already own as my client and that that needs to be part of my intake form.
And my agreements will differ between my clients. So I don't have those yet, but that's my takeaway for what I need to still do.
Fantastic. Krista, go girl.
So obviously, I've talked a little bit about myself and what I'm launching, but I'm a part of a ministry and we are starting to go international and selling our books and stuff like that.
We haven't trademarked anything. We haven't copyrighted anything like my good friend. So we're like in my mind, I'm like, Rachel, I don't even think you can't put those pictures in your book.
Like we need to figure out how you can even do that before we even start selling things like the fact that this is something that I'm downloading right now that I can share with this ministry where we are going national and we're helping.
I'm just like, oh, thank you, Lord, that I'm learning these things and I can help. And then what Peter shared today when he had people come on and kind of talk about what they got and then the portal and that he's being so generous to say, hey, you know, you can come and talk about this in this situation where I don't have to just only do it with Foley, but I can also open it up to one whole heart.
And like my sweet girlfriend that's starting her own ministry and I was able to look her name up and figure out, wow, there's a lot of new leaf ministries that have trademarks.
You need to think about that, Heidi, like I never would have known how to do that. So it's just invaluable, to be honest, like, yeah, the enemy can't steal. Amen.
Amen. Amen. Can I be picky, Elizabeth? How about you give us some implementation feedback?
Okay, thank you. First thing that really stuck in my head, might have been day one or day two,
was when Peter said, you don't know what you don't know, and that's what can get you into trouble.
And I'm putting together this program, this community, and again, like Coach just said,
I'm writing down bullet points of everything that we have talked about the last few days
of what I'm doing and what I need to get done in order to get this done. And putting next to it,
is it a trademark? Is it a patent? Is it a copyright? Is it both? And anytime, like even
now during each day, something will click and I'll go, oh, I got to write that down so I can look
that up later too to see if that applies. So prior to this, I would never have thought about any of
this. I would have just been going, fat, dumb, and happy and just gone my little way here and
put everything on the internet and the website. And I'm getting people to teach with me.
And again, like Peter said today, is the information that they're teaching,
do I need a patent for that? And does it belong to them? Or does it belong to the whole?
And so it's like, yeah, it's just, it's been amazing. It's just given me a lot of different
directions to go in that I didn't have before. Awesome. Thank you for sharing. I'm going to
choose a man. John, you're first up. So we'll go female, man.
Yeah. The implementation list. So the real main reason for coming here and I did in my introduction
was we're gonna start franchising and it's like, okay, oops, don't need that. Declining. All right.
Protect things, right? And so there's a list of, I've got six things to trademark, right? And I've
done some of the research. I had been in the place where I got the cease and desist letters before
from a prior name. And I'm like, I'm staying away from this because I don't know what to do.
But now, and we changed the name, we went a different direction. So now, like I said,
and initially completely confident in the direction I need to go. The other thing is,
as we start talking about these things, I've got a client on the business coaching side and
he has figured out a way to manage like a building trades business and manage it profitably. And so
he's got all this stuff he's figured out and we're putting it into a software. And so this today's
question was just another set of questions about, well, who owns it, right? Who owns not only the
code, but the interface and the names and it's built on a, it's database, right? So does the
database, so all these questions now that can easily at least be answered with some level of
knowledge and understanding so that before this gets rolled out, we do the challenges. He's got
50 clients on it. And then somebody goes, oh, and that's actually mine. So that's the other part of
the implementation is just things going forward. To Jennifer's point, my eyes are now open for the
things that are actually, we can actually stop happening. Somebody's paid the dumb tax. I don't
want to pay it again. And so I want to learn, like I said, that's my, sometimes I'm a warning to
people. If I can help you avoid the things that I suffered through, awesome. That's my job in life
is to help you go through those. So they shut down Mr. Fields. They didn't like that.
No, it was the smart cooking company, right? Did my research and I got a cease and desist.
Yeah. So again, a better yes was waiting with yummylicious.
Totally, totally. Libby, thank you, John, for that. Awesome. Libby, what are you doing to implement?
Wow. Well, I've started to do a lot of a bit like I haven't not as organized as coach Jennifer in
the checklist thing, but I think I probably need to get a bit more organized because I've got
notes everywhere. And yeah, so I've started to look at each area. And I almost think like it's
no accident that my website is not finished. Like the core components that Peter's talked about are
not there. Like it's, and it's the same with the challenge. It's various things that I go,
why haven't I done that? Because I know that. Yeah.
Like what I've got is is quite unique and I know because when I've talked to people
in a general sense, they've gone, wow, I never thought of it like that.
So yeah, so I've got a lot of work in working out what bits go where and what to do and
just looking at the Australian website, then looking at the US and, you know, to do with
trademarks, patterns and, and all the rest, but you know, just a thought as John was speaking
and his phone rang, this suddenly occurred to me, if you've got your devices set to listen
to you, and some of the information is being tracked, like, yeah, I kind of go, we have
to really even be careful about what we tell our devices or what we speak.
And, and I was thinking particularly of, Peter is nodding his head, he's going to voice in
on that one.
Companies that are not like, well, even look, even companies that are supposed to be controlled
by US law or, or Australian law or whatever else, unfortunately, they sell those companies
to countries that are out of control or don't, you know, don't care, as we know, don't
don't under whenever we stand up to a particular giant that just ran the games.
Yeah.
So, yeah, that was just, yeah, that's my big, yeah.
So there's action and just following through to really get a mint myself where it needs
to be.
Yeah, it's interesting, where you're talking about Libby is, it's an interesting area where,
you know, things are being recorded all the time.
And so remember how I, I, I showed all of you to be careful when you go on a domain
name site and you type in the name of the domain name, and then all of a sudden the
price pops up because there's monitoring being done right now, if you disclose something,
could it be recorded?
Can somebody else utilize it?
Yeah.
By all means, things like that can happen.
I mean, that's what, one of the things I told people is if you got a really important invention,
make a decision as to whether or not you're going to protect it right up front, figure
it out.
Like, am I, am I supposed to own this intellectual property myself?
Is this supposed to become my patentable invention?
Do I need to file a trademark?
Do I need to file a copyright?
Like figure these things out upfront.
Now that you know about these issues, you've spot checks them, you think, oh, I'm in this
scenario.
This is a trademark issue, a copyright issue, a trade, you know, a patent issue, you know,
now that you can go before the Lord and say, what do I do?
I know.
Now, what do I do?
I mean, before you couldn't even do that before you just kind of go in about your business.
Now, you know, there's an issue.
So now that you know, there's an issue, you can figure out if you need it, if you do need
to do something, then all you have to figure out is the resources and the timing and things
like that.
So yeah, by all means, things are being recorded all the time.
I'm not so concerned about that.
I guess my major issue is I want the people I am teaching to be able to spot check and
then determine what they want to do and come out with a timeline to do those things in
a manner that works well, not just for them, but for like their business plan, right?
It's very hard to have a business plan if you don't know what you have.
And that's what I find a lot is a lot of people come before me and they'll say, yeah, I've
been running this company four years, five years, seven years, eight years, nine years,
and we own nothing.
And I go, what in the world are you talking about?
And then I kind of break things down and said, oh, well, actually, you have common law trademark
rights here.
You know, you have some copyright issues there.
Here's some trade secret issues on the back end on the patent side.
Yeah, you're right.
You lost everything because you've been selling it for four years, like nothing I can do for
you.
But maybe you could do a modification to the technology and protect that.
That's a possibility.
So, yeah, there's there's different ways to play the game.
But now that you know, it'll be easier.
So, Deb, how are you, Deb?
Good to see you.
Oh, my gosh.
You know, yeah, you got the the I the thing I wanted to share is is that I've been beating
myself up for the last couple of years while I tried selling.
I called it the Alpha to Omega process, and I tried doing three challenges.
And I think some of you guys know my my who is the C-suite people of companies that build
satellite subsystems.
But anyway, you know, I've been trying to do this and just not being successful.
I have learned something every time, but it hasn't been successful.
And now I've broken it down to just where I'm, I'm selling a
very small part of the whole process, but I have renamed it
called the compass process.
And thanks to Peter and it is, it is now trademarked and I'm
thinking maybe I ought to patent the entire process, but, but
what, what I wanted to share is I have felt like I am, I am not
worthy of 100x.
I'm not, because I haven't done, you know, I, I feel like I'm
going so slow and I'm checking, you know, and, and, and I,
there's times I just feel like I'm not succeeding, but now I
know why God, this is not his time.
He is allowing me the time now to protect the stuff that I'm
creating in the appropriate form.
Like what Libby was saying, I mean, literally as I raised my
hand, Libby, you were talking and I thought, I'm, I know why
I have been so slow because, you know, maybe, maybe this
something is something truly unique and I need to be smart
about it and protect what I'm doing.
And, and so, so Peter, thank you.
Thank you.
And, you know, I guess, you know, it's God's timing.
It's not mine.
So I, I am, I am no longer a failure.
I know what I'm doing.
I know what I've got is good.
I know it's a God idea and therefore I'm protecting it.
Thank you.
Amen.
That's awesome.
And, you know, and that sometimes that happens that, you know, the, the
door is not open until you're ready to go through the door, you know, it's
like, but why, why can't I break through?
It's like, cause you, you haven't gotten everything done yet.
There's, there's a reason because it, perhaps if you had gone through
the door, somebody else could have taken the information, you know, and,
and maybe the intent is that you're supposed to be blessed with it.
So he wants to make sure you're blessed, you know, that's
between you and the Lord.
Right.
But, but I mean, I can say in my own life, I had situations where I'm like, shouldn't
I be on the other side of this gate already?
Like we've been dancing around this gate for a long time.
And then all of a sudden something pops up and I go, oh my gosh, I'm so glad I
didn't step on the other side of that gate.
There was a pit bull over there that would have attacked me.
Now I have this armor on that.
I don't care what people comes.
It can't bite through it.
Cause I'm ready.
So, you know, that's, he knows what he's doing.
Is this a matter of us being able to figure it out?
And I knew when I started out this challenge, I honestly, it's amazing.
When I heard the word pioneer.
And then when I, I just felt very strong in the spirit, you need
to take care of these people.
Like these people are different.
Like there's stuff that's being, there's stuff that's going to be released.
They're going to be taking care of people and other things.
So you have to do something a little different here.
And anybody who was in the first challenge that came into the second challenge.
I mean, this is kind of like, I would imagine like if Rowena or the others
were here for the entire thing, they'd be like, oh my gosh, like, wow.
Like these people are absorbing stuff fast.
And so, um, but there's a, there's a reason for it.
It's because of, it's because of what, who you're calling or who you are and
what your calling is it's it's important.
And that's, that's been reiterated to me probably three days now in
the spirit that you are important.
Like there's something important about your calling.
You don't see it because you're kind of a piece of the entire puzzle.
But if that piece is missing, if you've ever put together like a really nice,
beautiful landscape in a puzzle, and one piece is missing, everybody
can see that that piece is missing.
But when all the pieces are together, you never see any individual piece.
And ironically, part of our mission is to be so that people will see the
Lord and so that other people will be blessed.
Yes.
He wants to bless us, but at the same time, sometimes we're a piece of that puzzle.
You know, so we need to come into alignment and fit perfectly.
Now everything is beautiful.
Everything runs smoothly.
So, um, yeah, so I, I, I've kind of had that level of respect for all of you and
that, and just kind of, I'm expectant to, to get reports from all of you to see
what you're learning, what's changing, what's transforming, because I'm expecting
to see a lot of success and a lot of lives here.
So, um, let me go to Kathy next, I believe.
Kathy's next.
So I'm going to go to Kat.
Hi, Kathy.
How are you?
That looks like my shirt from Tuck from, um, Dartmouth from Tuck.
It looks exactly like that shirt and my daughter stole it.
It's old hard rock.
It's my work at home shirt.
It looks exactly.
And it's so comfortable.
It's like one of my favorite shirts and she took it and she went to college with it at RPI.
And I said, you brat.
Okay, go ahead.
Well, Hey everyone.
Um, I just appreciate, I think.
when I talked to Peter the other day when I was signing up
is that I did a lot of this stuff in 2000,
but boy learned the hard way.
Like John and I texted and I spent a lot on attorneys
to discuss the ideas.
So I really appreciate one, the refresher
and two, the accessibility.
Cause you know, of course all the websites
have kind of been updated since I used to do USPTO searches
and all those things.
So that was super helpful.
Some of the things that we've not, you know,
I was back in those days I was coaching
and coaching model and licensing,
coaching programs and all those things.
Yeah.
Learning from all those people who'd gone before us.
These days I, we have a winery, we have a family winery.
So the, I didn't even think about,
I mean, I had thought of it,
but I hadn't really drilled down on the fact
that some of our blending names,
some of our product names, some of our,
and we haven't really touched on that.
And then I've kind of been in and out
cause we just opened our wine bar two weeks ago.
So everything's still in it.
So what have you done?
Have you changed the name entirely
or have you just slightly modified them?
Well, we actually have created new names for blend
and things like that.
Okay.
And they've been out in the market now for a couple of years
so maybe public, you know, those kinds of things.
So what I have not-
That's okay though.
So that's okay for, cause in the trademark world,
there are no stat story bars in the trademark world.
Okay.
So stat story bars, they only exist in the patent world.
So if you've been using a name for like three years,
then you would have certain common law rights to that.
I would just make sure you do the trademark search first
to make sure you don't run into any problems.
And then you can do the federal registration if you want
and own all of the United States.
Yeah.
Yeah. So to me, the action, I didn't get to do some of it
because like I said, I'm busy doing this opening,
but it made the checklist for me
with really fresh, new, applicable checklist
on some of those things.
But I'd also realized I've been chatting
about some business modeling ideas that are unique
that I wanted to be able to capture in a business model
to either turn out multiple locations that I was like,
ooh, yeah, I've probably been a little free
with that information.
You know, right?
We're generous.
We understand that, you know,
the father holds these ideas and helps us along the way,
but there is an element of wisdom, right?
Yeah. And it's, for me, it's a big balance.
Like I determine how much do I want to give away?
How much do I not?
And I tend to try to fall on the side of giving away more
than, you know, then I just,
I like to fall on that side personally,
even though I get reprimanded by Scott and the others.
They're like, no, you don't want to give all this stuff away
because then they might not come into your offer.
I'm like, yeah, yeah.
I'm like-
Well, back in the day, that was called free stuff marketing.
Robert Middleton was kind of the forerunner in that.
And you kind of use that to fill your funnel,
all of those things.
And I just believe that, you know,
in terms of the kingdom, the storehouses are full
and the pie is always getting bigger.
You saw my post on Facebook.
And so it really challenges our world culture about that.
It does.
The father is the keeper of the books to bring the return.
Right.
I'm telling you freedom in that.
So our winery is in Oregon.
We've been making wine out of our house
with no tasting room for all these years.
The father's given us creative ideas and blessing
and we've grown in a time of shutdown.
And so now we're opening a new tasting room,
wine bar concept.
Congratulations.
So it's been pretty cool.
My husband and son-
You have a lot of wood in your wood, in your bar.
Is there a lot of wood?
There actually is.
Yeah, I actually just saw it in the spirit.
The second you said that, I literally just saw a flash.
I saw a ton of wood.
Well, the beauty of it, it's reclaimed.
So this beauty of, you know,
when we kind of have this old religious mindset
about alcohol and the fact that the father showed me
that this is about community, it's about connection.
It is about the experience of the increase of his blessing
that comes through food and wine and the gathering
and to be able to...
So the wine bar ended up being built
out of a tremendous amount of reclaimed wood.
Yeah.
It's lovely.
Yes, that's awesome.
The God idea.
I literally saw a glimpse and I was like,
you could see the different colors of the wood
and it was all wood and I was like, whoa.
Yeah, congratulations.
You can follow us on social at Resolute Cellars
on Instagram and Facebook right now, but...
Oh, can you send me the link?
I will, I will.
Thank you guys.
And I appreciate it.
We do ship all over the US,
but it really is a beautiful God story.
Even if we're not shouting the God story,
we're being the God story in action,
which is another religious framework from all this.
And you just get to be...
Oh, people are asking you to type it in the chat.
I will.
So type it in there.
So, all right.
Thank you for letting me share.
Absolutely.
Larissa, who is next?
Miguel?
We're going to start jumping in too.
Miguel.
Yeah, does he still...
Mine is a question.
So I'll wait.
Yeah, go ahead.
There's a lot of gold being shared.
Maybe finish...
If Patricia and Jeanette have shares about implementation,
then maybe you go with that and then to Q&A.
How about that?
Let you finish where you guys started.
Patricia, are you going to be sharing something about implementation?
Go right ahead, yeah.
No, you're not.
I have a question also, but it does have to do with what was on the main thing.
It's about patents, okay?
Okay, go ahead.
Okay. So, is a single unique name patentable?
Unique names fall under trademarks.
Names and logos fall under trademarks.
Remember that form?
Look at the form that I gave you on day one.
Do you have that?
Yes, but I want it to be a brand.
That's okay.
Brands, the word brand covers a lot of things, right?
So, like there's, within brands, there are trademarks, there are, you know, there are
wordmarks, there are logos, there may be patents, there may be functionality, there
may be copyrights, so there's like the brand, and then everything is falling in
there.
What people do wrong a lot is they look at the trademark, and then they say the
brand's in the trademark.
It's like, no, no, no, you don't understand.
Like, this is my brand.
Now, there are these things that come around it to make my brand.
So, that when people say Peter Nieves is running a challenge, it's called the
Protector Idea Challenge.
When they hear Protector Idea Challenge, they're thinking, all right, potential
trademark.
When they hear Protection Portal, they're thinking potential trademark.
My brand is like, you know, my funnel's falling in there.
My trademarks are falling in there.
What I'm teaching are falling in there.
It's like, there's an impression that people should get when they think about the
challenge that I run.
There should be like a certain like skill level, or there should be a certain
expectation of quality.
And, you know, there's things that are associated with your brand.
But the question is, what's protectable within your brand?
So, now you look at the name that you said, right?
And that name is something that's potentially protectable under trademark.
So, when you look at that sheet that I gave to everybody, I'm going to share my
screen real fast so everybody can see that.
There's my sheet right there, share screen.
OK, my issue with it being just a trademark is that I don't want it to be limited to
one of those categories.
OK, let's start out with, are there certain words?
There are words associated with it, right?
OK, we'll say, just as an example, if it was supercalifragilisticexpialidocious.
Yeah, unusual word, but somebody wanted to do it like in shoes and computers.
And, you know, I'm saying great question.
Great question.
So the way it would work is that it would be a trademark.
It's a word, right?
Or it's a phrase.
But what you would do is you would follow it in different international classes.
So if somebody wants it associated with shoes, you would follow it in that
international class.
Somebody who wanted it for computers, you would follow it in international class
nine. So you can file it, you can own it for different things.
You can own that one name for many different things.
But the only way you can do that is to file in different international classes.
So when we did the trademark application filing together, do you remember that day?
Yes. OK, in that video, you'll see that I had you type in a description of the goods
or the service. And when you typed in that word and you press enter, what happened?
The international classes popped up automatically.
So what you want to do is you want to figure out what areas do I want to use that
name? I have supercalifragilisticexpialidocious.
I am good. I said it.
Congratulations. Thank you.
I don't know if I could say it fast, but I said it.
I'm impressed. So if I.
If I want to use that name for computers, that's class nine.
I would file it in class nine.
If I want to use it for running challenges, that's class thirty five or forty one.
So I'd file it in a separate class.
So I'd have different levels of protection, one for one technology, one for another.
I can use that one name in many different ways.
Does that make sense? It makes sense.
But wouldn't it be cost prohibitive to file it in every category?
I want to own it as I don't want anyone else to ever use this name because God gave
it to me. It's very unique.
Right. So you have to figure out where he wants you to own it and use it.
You can't own it.
And I mean, you could own it in every single international class.
I agree with you. That would be cost prohibitive.
So what you need to do, which is awesome because you just get to go back into the
secret place. Right. And he who dwells in a secret place and a most high God shall
abide under the shadow of the almighty.
Right. So just go back in and say, I love that name you gave me.
Do you want me to protect it?
You do. OK, where do you want me to protect it?
And you know why he may come out and say.
This is a service. I want you to bless my people with in ministry
And then you're gonna look up ministry and you're gonna see class 35 or 41 and you're gonna file a trademark application in that area
Now you can potentially own it in that area
But if you're saying like in general, I want to own I want to own the name period
You can't you can
but
Nobody does that even the most even the largest corporations the world. They don't do that really
Because if you're not making diapers, why do you care about owning the name for diapers?
You know if you're not okay. I see that's a good example. That's a very good example, Peter
Yeah, yeah, because I would break it down figure out figure out what see this is why this is why I would love to do
One of these associated with like God idea. So I'm talking to Pedro God permitting we can work together because it's so important for you to hear
What the Lord saying like what did he say to do what most people do
Most Christians is they hear a word from the from the Lord and they run on the Facebook and they type up the things
They see how many likes they get. I mean, no, he told I know you don't I know I know you don't
But this is what literally happens is that they hear a word and they're so excited about the word
Do you realize that when you receive a word from the Lord? It's a door
Sometimes the depth of the message is so detailed and we get so excited
That we saw the cover of the book that we never open up the book
Your job is to spend time with the Lord dig in spend time with him open the cover
Now see what is he revealing?
God is he's three parts in one right father son Holy Spirit. So when you
Lord
When you hear something from the Lord, I would expect at least three levels of revelation. That's just the way I approach it
I'm not that's not biblical
I'm just saying that's the way I hit it. If I hear a word from the Lord, I say Lord
I think this is where it's applicable, but I
want more I'm gonna sit there and I'm not moving until I hear what else you got to say on this and
Inevitably more comes out and more comes out and more and you get drawn in deeper and deeper. He's limitless
How is it that they're around the throne continuously saying holy? Holy? Holy? Are you Lord and they're not changing their conversation? How?
Because continuously they're getting new revelations of his glory
Continuously, it's non-stop. What else are you gonna do? I mean you you can't move you can't say anything else
So if you get some level of revelation with regard to an idea
Go back to him and say Lord. Thank you for that revelation. I think this is what you're saying
What do you want me to do with it?
Do you want me to file a trademark?
Okay, great
What class like dig in like and I know you don't have any problems with this because you love spending time with them
I do ask them just ask them. I hope that helps. I know for some people here
I don't hopefully everybody's comfortable what I just said, but this is kind of who I am
So and this is kind of who we are. So yes, I just wanted to share that. Hopefully that helps people
Thank you. That was that was very good
And I I just feel the anointing upon that and I believe it's gonna help everyone in here because
You know, we are
Here for a purpose to fulfill his purpose. Yeah, and the key is knowing his voice
You know, and how do you get to know his voice spending time with him?
You have to I mean like I call the house and one of my daughters will make believe she's my wife because their voices are
So similar. So what do I do?
I start asking specific questions and then when I get the answer is like my wife would never say that sky cut it out
Where's mommy like literally because I their voices are almost the same. So let me move on to Miguel. Thank you, Peter
You're so welcome Miguel my friend. What's up, brother? Hey
All right. So my question is on
On patents, I guess the subject that you were talking about earlier
So when think Instagram and bourbon, right if you recall the story about bourbon, right?
So when you have a process like before Instagram started they had bourbon and you have a patentable process
Maybe uploading an image to whatever the portal
Yeah, but you make revisions on that with time like radical revisions where the product almost becomes, you know
Completely different over time does the clock resets on that one year because if you go file excellent question
All right file provisional on original product
I am more on the Silicon Valley, you know pop up a pop up like minimum
I will product changes change it does a clock restart, you know every time. Yeah, you get there
So, let me break that down and it's a good thing you mentioned that in VIP because that's very detailed
So, let me let me break that down for you
Okay, and you'll have you have the recordings as well so you can you can listen to this again and break it down
So in the patent world, there are things called continuations and continuations in part. Okay
So let's say let's make it simple
so everybody kind of follows this.
Let's say the original invention is a bicycle.
Now what you realize was in your first creation
of the bicycle, everybody kind of used it
like Fred Flintstone and they use their feet
to slow down the bike.
There were no brakes.
Like you just kind of like put your feet down
and you're trying to slow down, right?
That's how you use it.
Then one day you said, man, we can create a braking system.
So you just made a modification to the bicycle, right?
So the bicycle is still the same
but you added something to it.
So what you're trying to do is you're trying to make sure
that your prior filing on a bicycle
isn't used to prevent you from getting a new patent
because your prior patent on a bicycle
can become what's called prior art, okay?
So when you file a patent application,
it goes through an examination proceeding
and that examination proceeding,
the examiner looks at any issued patents
or any publications and the examiner will compare them
to what you're trying to get.
And they'll say, well, what you're trying to get
is exactly the same.
So therefore I'm not gonna allow it, it's rejected
or I'm simplifying this, right?
But, or they'll say, it's kind of similar
so I'm gonna give you a rejection.
That's kind of like, I'm really making this simple
to understand, it's way more detailed
but let's just keep it at that level, okay?
So what about the brakes?
What about I made a modification and I added brakes?
If the original patent application is still pending,
I can file what's called a continuation
in part application.
What a continuation in part is,
is it is a patent application that's filed
while the first one is still pending
so that my own patent cannot be prior art
to my own new application, okay?
So if I filed a new patent application
on the bicycle with the brakes,
I guarantee you they'll reject it
based on my other patent that issued on a bicycle.
And they'll say, you can't own anything
that's exactly on the bicycle.
You can own something different from that,
namely brakes with the bicycle
but you can't own the bicycle, right?
So now, there's two things you could do.
You can file a continuation of part application.
It has the same filing date as the original patent
that you first filed on the bicycle
but it has new matter, it's called new matter.
You put the new matter in the new patent application.
That's called a continuation of part.
The other thing you can do
is just file a brand new patent application
on the new portion of the invention.
So what I would do is I would file a patent application
on a braking system within a bicycle.
And then my claims of the patent
would just be on the brakes.
They would not really,
I wouldn't have any claims that talk about just a bicycle.
It would always be the bicycle with the brakes,
the bicycle with the brakes.
Cause I have to have what's new in the new patent.
That's the only way I can do this.
So there's one other thing I would add to this.
You need to make a business decision.
And what I mean by that is,
you need to determine what every single person
who tries to implement the modification
always use what's in the first patent.
If they will always use what's in the first patent,
you may not have to file a patent on the new thing
because they're always gonna infringe your original patent.
Do you see that?
That's a strategy that you can use.
So remember, oh, you weren't there for the,
for, oh no, you were there.
Were you there for the first day yesterday
when I was talking about patents the first time?
Yeah, I joined the challenge like a day ago.
Okay, all right, so you heard this.
Remember how I gave the example
of the stool versus the chair?
Okay, so if you own the patent on the stool,
I don't care what chair you make,
you infringe my patent on the stool all day long.
Every single day, you infringe, you infringe, you infringe.
So therefore, I don't have to file another patent.
Now, the question is, why would I?
Why might I want to file a patent
on the new thing, the chair?
One reason might be because I want to license that new thing
only to one party.
So I may in fact give a non-exclusive license to chairs
or I may sell our right title and interest to chairs
or it's kind of hard to do that
if I don't have a patent on it, right?
So I might file a patent on the chair
and sell the rights to that,
but then give a non-exclusive license
to my patent on the stool so that they don't infringe
when they implement the chair.
This is called IP strategy.
This is, what you're talking about is what I master in.
That's, what you talk about is why people will pay me
literally $10,000 for like two hours.
They'll say, come in here, digest this scenario,
and give me a full strategy for my business.
And I'll walk in, I actually have a high ticket item
that I sell for 15 grand, which, you know,
the people in the portal find out.
out later about that. And that's for me, they have me for one day. And I do this all day,
where you're saying we come out with a whole portfolio strategy for everything, beginning to
end. When do you file first? Do you need to file? What countries did you file? What agents did you
use? Where should you invest, not invest? We come out with the whole thing, even on a timeline for
filing. So that's kind of like my sweet spot. That's unique. So to finalize the answer,
continuation in part, if it's really related, or you could file a brand new application,
if you so choose, and you're kind of concerned that the earlier application might be prior art,
you can do that. But the general idea that I would always start out with is,
why am I filing a patent? Because patents are expensive. So I would say, if I own the core
technology, can anybody practice this without violating my patent? If they can't,
then why am I filing another patent? Do I need to? Maybe I don't need to. But if I'm going to
license, chances are, I do want to, because then I want to be able to license something different
to somebody else. Does that kind of make sense? It does. Last thing is, can you do this on a
provisional patent? Everything is provisional, or this continuation in part, new matter,
is that only for? Only for utilities. But you can license a provisional.
So you can license provisionals, utilities, you can license know-how. You can just license your
knowledge. So there's a whole number of different things in the licensable area that we go into in
the portal. But the basic idea is that your provisional, you can license, your utility,
you can license your continuation, your continuation in part, re-exams, re-issues,
all of them. You can license them all. Everything's licensable. But as far as provisionals
go, you cannot file a continuation in part off of a provisional. What you can do, and what I
would suggest that you do, if you file the provisional or your clients file the provisional,
is within one year, file more than one utility covering different things. That's what I would
do. Changes and improvements. Yes. So let's say you have some, let's say you came up with a bicycle
with the braking system. And on top of that, you have the bicycle. You can file one utility on the
bicycle and one utility on a bicycle with a braking system at the same time. Or an even
cooler strategy is filing both in one patent application and file two different sets of
claims. Now you'll get a rejection from the patent office. It's called a restriction.
And then you'll file what's called a divisional. I'm giving you a lot of info, Miguel,
but I'm just telling you how it plays out. So at that point, what you do is you'll file a
divisional. And with a divisional patent application, they will separate the two
inventions into two patents. So you can either file it as one and have the patent office separate
it, or you can file it as two in the beginning. So to answer your question, what I would do is
within that year of filing the provisional, figure out what you want to own. And if that
provisional, you need that filing date of the provisional for that, I would file both
applications or three applications or whatever, all of them swearing back to the provisional.
But you have to file them on the same day. You can't file them on different days. Because if
you start filing things on the same day, you're essentially, your expired provisional is no longer,
you know, it's no longer expired. You filed the utility off of it. Now you can run into
violation issues. You don't want to play with that. Just file them on the same day. Your life
is a lot easier. Okay? This is helpful. Thank you. Yeah, you're so welcome. Jeanette. Yes.
How are you, my friend? I am fantastic.
What may I do for you? So if my logo has my name, can that and that's a trademark,
do I have to still do the name separate from the logo?
That's a brilliant question. That's a brilliant question. Okay. So what can I give you as an
example? Trying to think of a logo, somebody give me a logo that has. No, that's not really an
example, john, because they're kind of separate. There are some logos out there that actually have
a name inside of them. Anybody think of Intel inside? What is it?
How about Amazon? Does Amazon have one? I don't. There's some logos out there that actually have,
like, there's the the logo, you're like, let's say there's a circle. And then there's a design.
And then there's a word in it. Intel inside. Where can you pull? Can you drop a link to that?
See if you can find it on the internet, destiny, please. And just drop it in the chat. And then
I'll pull it up to share if you could find that. See my
little logo. That innocent again.
Right? Yes. Yes. That's an example. Yeah. So that's a good
example. I want to pull up the Intel inside as well. Because
that's, that's a good example, Destiny as well. But let me
answer your question, Jeanette. So you would file a design mark
for the design, but then you would follow a word mark for the
words. Why do I say that? Because if you file only a
trademark application for thank you so much for that. I can see
it. That is a long URL.
There's a
on that one. I just copy pasted.
Okay. All right. Well, here we go. I can pull it up. So people
can see as an example. Share screen. Share. Okay, so let's
use this one Intel inside. So there's an example of a logo. It
has the words Intel inside. Do you see that people see the
screen? Okay, great. Alright, so I would follow a trademark and
there you see right there the circle are you see they put a
circle are there. There's a good example of people making sure
they're cognizant of their rights. There's a circle are
right there. So that's showing you that they have a federal
registration on this logo. Okay. Now, the logo includes this
swirly thing, but then cursive words inside. So I guarantee you
that they will if they were smart, and Intel is very smart.
They file an application for the logo, which is a design mark,
but then they file a separate application for a word mark,
which is Intel inside. That's the way you handle that. So you
file two applications. The question is why? All right,
that's the big question is why? Why are you spending more money
to do this? And the way I would explain it is I've seen
arguments where people file for logos and a word is not like the
main topic. And so what they do is another party starts using
the design, or they start using the words. And then when they
get sued for trademark infringement, they say, well,
that's not, that's really not a constituent part of the logo
itself. It's just like a small part. So it really, you don't
really own the words, you own the logo with the word. So you
shouldn't be able to force the words alone. If you wanted, if
you wanted to enforce the words alone, you should have filed a
separate application for the words alone, you didn't do that.
So therefore, blah, blah, that's basically the argument. So if
you just file a word trademark, and you file a logo trademark,
namely a design, boom, you're done. And that's a good example
for your book, what you have there, that's exactly what I
would do, I would file one for the logo, and then one for the
word mark. And that's, that's where I have to use like an
international class. Correct? In the international class? Is
that
Oh, you broke up. You're stuck. Come unstuck. Come on.
Unstick. Come on.
The design marker, that's something even more.
Say that again. Now we can hear you get
Okay. So then, then I do that international class. And that's
different than saying wordmark or trademark, or mark.
Correct. Right. So go back to the you're in VIP. So you have
access to the video, you have it already by email. Go back to I
think it's on day two, when we did the trademark application,
you'll see I walked you through the selection of the
international classing. But the before you even get there, you
have to put down the selection of a design mark, or a word
mark. All right, logos are logos are design marks. Words alone
are word marks. You have to file them separately. Okay. Yes.
Okay, awesome. Bless you.
Peter, quick follow up to that. So they could on the words they
could file for Intel inside, or just Intel, but they could not
file a mark for inside because it's a descriptive word. Because
when you also want to protect just the name Intel, because
that's the actual company name, right?
Yeah, well, you're getting into Jennifer is it's it's a how do I
put it? Yes. In general? Yes. What you're saying is correct,
in general, but there's an issue because the way that they're
using, they're not using Intel alone. They're always using
Intel inside Intel inside Intel inside. So if they tried to use
this as a specimen of their use of the word Intel, where clearly
they're using it together as Intel inside, it might be
objected to by an examiner as not an appropriate specimen. So
the way that you're actually using your trademarks, you have
to you should be using them alone. It should be a word
like protection portal.
That's it. Shouldn't be used in a descriptive manner like come into the protection portal for protection of things that are in your portal. Like don't do that. That's that's that is not using a trademark as a trademark. A trademark should stand alone. It's that identification of a source of goods. It's like boom alone.
So now if Intel tried to use this as a specimen to file with the trademark office, it might be objected to because it's it's not alone. It's Intel inside. It's not Intel.
So now you asked a question. Well, isn't inside descriptive. It always breaks down to where they following it. The word inside may not be descriptive of computer chips.
You know, the word inside may not be descriptive of perfume. You know, so it depends on what you're filing it for. Right. So it always you always look at the international class itself.
And then you look at whether that word is descriptive of something in that international class itself.
So it's not it's not just, oh, that word is just descriptive in general. It's like, no, we have to look at where you're going to use the word.
If you're going to use the word for perfume, the word inside is not descriptive of anything to do with perfume. So if you filed a trademark application for inside associated with perfume, you might get it.
Because, you know, so, yeah, that's basically how it breaks down is is is the word descriptive of specifically the goods and services associated with the international class that you're filing for.
Larissa, I don't know who's next. I think Cindy's next.
At least on my chart here. She's next on the top left. So, so I'm going there.
Thanks for all you're giving us. This is great. So I have a
I have a consulting client that is using worship music and her challenge.
Yeah, that is she's doing it on zoom streaming into Facebook, but Facebook hadn't shut her down or anything so far. But I've I've told her that that's probably going to become a problem.
How would someone, how would someone go about that. I mean, if she has to have if she needs to use the music and her challenge, which you have to put it all on zoom and not even use the Facebook group.
So you're saying that it's being played while she's in her challenge.
Yeah, it's a it's a dance like a praise worship dance type challenge.
And so she's she's live streaming into Facebook.
Right. Well, no, she's she's zooming it into Facebook.
Which is live streaming into Facebook.
Yeah, so but Facebook hasn't caught her shut her down or anything. But I told her, it's probably going to happen.
Facebook.
I mean, I haven't run into issues with faith. I mean, I know some people will have but I haven't run into issues with Facebook, like locking up one of my videos because I've had background music, I run into that more on YouTube.
YouTube will shut you down. YouTube, they have, they have software that analyzes your videos when you upload it. And they determine the audio in the background, and then they'll, they'll throw on a copyright violation on your video.
And then on top of that, they'll make it so nobody no ads can be run on your video because you're running somebody else's copyrightable work. So you can't make any money on it basically right but so anyways, to answer your question, how do you get around all this, do what I do.
It's a lot more work.
I mean, it's a lot more work I spent a lot more time, you know, taking my videos that I've saved in zoom, and then providing a link, but not none of my materials on Facebook.
Like you can't go you can't get access to my videos unless you have the link and the materials not on Facebook so Facebook doesn't own anything.
So that's how I bypass it but I bypass it because I'm a lawyer so I knew what they could do and now you know because you've been in this challenge. So, if you were trying to get away, trying to find a way around it.
Anything that's live stream into in the Facebook they they record.
If you live stream like if you're on, if you're on zoom and you live stream into your Facebook group that specific group that you're talking about can other people watch that video later by clicking on the video.
So that means it was stored.
Okay.
Do you think YouTube would shut down, like if she were to do a zoom and put it into an unlisted YouTube page and then take the link and give the link out.
I don't honestly know but they could. They could I mean I've done, like I said I've done healing services you know just time of being with Jesus where we're playing worship music in the background and my videos have been flagged.
Even where I've known the musical artists, personally.
them. So then now I have to deal with, you know, the semantics of, I mean, personally, I don't care
because, I mean, this is just me, because I know the person, I know they're not going to do anything
about it. But separate from that, it was flagged, no ads can be run off of it, which is fine. I
don't care about ads. But you can run into a copyright violation issue, like you can be sued.
It's a real thing. So, you know, people, artists spend a lot of time and money coming out with
creative works. And then their chances of making money is very low. It used to be that you make
45s, right? You'd run these records and you sell them. That's not happening now. Like,
everything is live stream online. And so since everything's live stream online,
unfortunately, you know, their chances of making money is really low. They have to
sell their rights to some kind of like Spotify or iTunes. And then you subscribe to that and
they make a percentage of the number of downloads. So they're not making a lot of money. So
industries like YouTube and others, they're jumping on immediately to try to provide some
means of enforcement. So, and let me move. You're so welcome. Amber, you're up, my friend.
Okay, so first of all, thanks, Peter. Amazing. And all of the superheroes on here. Super,
super, super amazing. So, Peter, I want to say thanks, because with our process, we're thinking
of doing an app. So that when you come into our program, you do certain things. And you know,
your app responds to what you do. And you know, nailed it. Not quite nailed it. You didn't even
start it, bro. You know, and hopefully doing our process through the time you get the results.
So I was very intrigued when you shared about the ownership of the app. And I, I, I really just
appreciated that conversation. I appreciate that you can't give legal advice, and we would need to
book, you know, something separately. But we were going out there looking for app developers,
and we would have ended up in a colossal mess thinking, oh, well, we own this,
and we own this process. And we are, we might have owned the conventional nothing. So just want
to say thank you. And look forward to having that one on one. Yeah.
Absolutely. Yeah, that's, it's such a, I can tell you, I, the other challenge that I did,
the faces literally went blank when I said that, because there were a lot of software developers
there. And when they heard that, they were like, hold it. I paid for my app. What do you mean I
don't own it? Well, what? That doesn't make sense. And so we had to spend some more time on it. So
just yeah, that's a great point, Amber. And it's so important to understand when you're,
when you hire someone to do software development, when you hire somebody to make your funnel,
when you hire somebody to do, you know, your music background. These are creatives.
These are creative individuals. They're providing you with a creative work.
The owner of a creative work is the artist themselves is the creator. So you got to make
sure they assign all right title and interest. So make sure in your original agreement, it says,
yes, you're creating my funnel, but I own the funnel and I own all right title and interest
to the funnel. It's mine. If they, if you don't get that in writing, chances are your exact
funnel is going to show up on somebody else's with maybe a few different images. And then you're
going to say, well, how did that happen? Because you never owned it. You, you paid for a service,
you paid for a result, but you don't own the origination. It always comes down to who owns
the original work. That's what's most important. The only person who owns an original work is the
originator. That's it. So you have to, you have to step into the shoes of the originator. That's
essentially what you're trying to do. The only way to do that is to make the originator assign
all right title and interest to you. So anytime you do, you get a service, any service, look in
that agreement immediately, you should see a picture of me. If it doesn't scare you, picture
should pop up and go, is it in writing? Is it in writing? Like literally you should, and you should
look at that agreement and say, and if it is not just raise it to him, say, look, I need to make
sure that this funnel belongs to me. I need some language in that agreement that says you hereby
assign all right title and interest to the agreement to me. I, I mean, I hired an agency
recently, right? And they were handling some of the email stuff and other things like that.
And I caught some issue with it. And I said, Hey, this is wrong. And they sent a retake,
which some of you saw yesterday. And, but one of the things I did on day one, I said, Hey,
I don't see anywhere in this clause, anything about intellectual property.
anything. I need to add my own language. Because if tomorrow
we're not working together, I can't have these people
disappearing and taking my stuff. Like, I'm investing in
it. It's a lot of time and money, right? So that's what I
would do. I believe I don't know if John's next or Carol, I'll
let you two fight with each other. Carol wins, I knew it
was gonna end up that way, John, just so we know. I knew you
were gonna win. I knew Carol was coming. Carol, how are you?
I'm great. How are you? Thank you.
I'm good. I'm good. Go right ahead.
Yeah, thanks so much for sharing all this with us and not get
into big trouble. So I have a couple of questions. So one,
what you were just talking about the funnel. I had a couple
people that helped me on my funnel. One actually did a lot
of it. And then another one just helped me correct some things,
figure out something that I couldn't figure out. The one
that helped me correct it said, Oh, I want to copy, copy your
funnel. And I didn't know anything else, you know, and
she's great at tech. So she just kind of pulled off. You know, I
don't know, what should I have said? How do you how do you
handle that?
I can speak in general, I'll tell you what the law says.
Because obviously, I can't give you legal advice on any stuff. I
just say in general, you know, the creator of the work owns the
work. That's really how it comes out. Creator of the work owns
the work. If you have multiple people contributing, like if I
have multiple people contributing to a single work,
then I want them to assign all right title and interest to me
like I want that in writing. That's just what I do. If I
don't have it in writing, then I'm in a mess in the mushy
world. And so then it becomes you know, hopefully you guys are
friends and you know, you're trying to figure things out
together, which I'm sure is the case. You know, I mean, just
think about it. Pedro gives us, he gives us tons of stuff. I
mean, this man literally can own all this stuff. And he does
technically he does own all that stuff. Yeah, exactly, Patricia.
And he gives us he just gives it to us. Like, he's like a
lawyer's nightmare. I mean, honestly, it's like, it's like,
it's like, it's like, you know, you give, you give like
something very valuable to somebody and they're walking
down and they just the things keep falling through their
fingers. And like, oh, there's one there. Oh, there's another
and you're like going behind him. No, no, no. Hey, although
you're dropping this, you're dropping this, you're dropping
that. And he's like, what I'm dropping things. Yeah, look how
pretty they look when they all fall. Like that's Pedro. That's
how he is. He just he just wants to give. And that's good.
I think that you know, that's honored. We all respect that.
Right. So we're not going to steal his stuff. Because if he
says we can use it, we'll use it. If he doesn't say we can
use it. We're not going to why because that's honor and honor
results in somebody type in the chat. What is honor result in
honor results in
promotion, blessing favor. There it is. Yeah, honor results in
favor. That's it. Honor, favor, honor, favor. So in this, I
mean, just to summarize real quick for you, Carol, and then
you can jump in. I mean, basically, you got nothing in
writing, right? So if I were in a situation where somebody
created for something different things for me, I just try to
enter into some kind of agreement with them, make sure
that you know, we can all move forward. But if I were in a
situation where somebody created for me, I just try to
enter into some kind of agreement with them, make sure
that you know, we can all move forward. But I mean, it's up to
you, if you even want to go that route at this point, you know,
is the funnel that important to you, like when you look at that
funnel, and you say, man, that funnel is so valuable, like, I
don't want anybody taking it. If that is not the case, then I
would not bother with it.
No, it's not. I just didn't know what to do in that
things that I just had on my document that I was working
with. And, um, and she just said, Oh, I'd love to copy some
of that, because I do something similar. And it was so like, it
was my wording that I use to explain and stuff like that. And
it was, it felt a little uncomfortable. I just didn't
know.
Yeah, and that's my wording becomes my copyright. Guys,
give me one second. My wife is checking on something. Hold on
one second. Larissa, can you just hold on for me? I'll be
right back.
Yeah.
Couldn't everybody just listen to Carol all day long for
beautiful Southern accent. You know, this is interesting. Peter
already probably already knows this. But for those of us who
are affiliated with Peter, or Pedro in the level two, he
dropped last night that the people who are helped Rick
Warren publish his purpose driven life curriculum have
approached him and they're working on agreements for 100
That's so, that's so amazing.
Carol, are you done?
I'll un-spotlight you.
Last night you were talking about Joel Osteen?
I thought, no, on the-
Level two?
Okay.
Let me better stop that conversation.
Okay.
All right.
So, um, let me just jump in.
Uh, there was an issue with a certain member of the family at a gas station
where her card ran out of money.
So I was trying to help her out.
So, yeah.
Uh, let's-
Can I ask you one more question?
Yeah, go ahead.
Okay.
So the other one, I'm still trying to wrap around my, my mind around the
things you were talking about yesterday with the, um, idea, or the description
of what you do being your name.
So like protect your idea is pretty much a description of what your challenge is.
So does that mean you don't copyright that?
You just use the, you just get the URL for it and you use the URL,
but it's not copyrighted or like movement maker or God idea is pretty generic.
I mean, no, I don't think, I think now, now you're going too far.
Like God idea associated with running a challenge is not generic.
It's not, it depends upon what international class you're talking about.
Right.
Movement maker.
So it always comes down to what, what is the trademark being used for?
Red door is very descriptive of constructive things.
It has nothing to do with perfume.
Red door would never be descriptive of perfume ever.
There's no way anybody can argue the red door is descriptive of perfume, unless
somebody took a red door and put it inside of a bottle and tried to sell it by just
adding water to it and swirling it around and spraying on themselves.
That would be descriptive besides that.
No.
So God idea associated with, you know, with, um, providing challenges, not
descriptive, you know, and other things like that, not descriptive.
That's why you can, I mean, and descriptive on that, but it's just very generic.
I thought you said things that were really generic.
I mean, lots of people say, oh, that was such a God idea.
I've heard that for years, you know, but it's a challenge.
There's no measurement.
I'm pretty positive.
I never used the word generic.
I always said descriptive.
Descriptiveness is what you cannot get a trademark on something that's descriptive.
Every word is generic.
I mean, you take multiple words and you put them together and
they become unique, right?
So just do it.
The word just is generic.
The word do it.
Those does generic.
You put them together and slap them on sneakers.
Now they're protectable.
That's a trademark.
So the question is, is just do it descriptive of sneakers.
Pretty positive.
That's not descriptive of sneakers.
It's not, not just not right.
Of course.
Yeah.
That's looking to see, is it descriptive?
Is the descriptive not generic?
Generic is not a word that you use in trademarks.
It's descriptiveness, not generic.
All right.
I'm going to jump to the next two.
Cause I got to jump off.
John, you're up.
Actually, Cindy, you already went, right?
Okay.
Yeah, John.
So you're going to be our last one.
And then tomorrow we'll jump on again.
Okay.
Two quick questions.
The first one was inspired by funnels, right?
So the, there's a platform called click funnels and there's people that build on
it and then there's people that use it.
So does click funnels.
Assign whatever's created.
They don't own that anymore.
Correct.
It's just the people who are creating the funnels are the owners, the creators of
that, whereas the platform itself has no, you got to look at the license.
Okay.
Click funnels has a license.
They talk about that.
It's in the license.
Okay.
And my other question is really quick.
It's about authors.
Um, so, uh, one of our hundred X coaches has six to 8 million books already
Wow.
He does not have any access to those anymore.
Now as new books he's publishing, um, he is self publishing or going around.
He's not going to the Christian publishers anymore.
Is it, do publishers, are there any of them that will allow an author to
maintain, you know, the right title and interest to their, yeah, sure.
Yeah.
You, you just have to figure out the, it comes down to the agreement.
When you go to a publisher, you have to determine in the agreement, some
of them actually obtain all right title and interest others.
They have no rights at all.
This is why the legal jargon associated with partnerships and,
and businesses is very important.
You need to read the fine print.
Like you need to look and see what exactly are you doing?
Like, did you just, when you went to, you know, the specific publisher, did
you just give them all rights to your book?
Like you need to read that document.
A lot of people don't, they just sign off because they want to get published.
And then they find out I can't publish with another party because that publisher
now has exclusive rights for publishing.
Yeah.
I guess Amber's published a book she says can be negotiated.
So got it.
Okay.
Thank you.
Yeah.
That's what you want to do, bro.
That's really.
good. And with that, my friends, that is our last question on our
last session of VIP. This is has been I just really enjoyed this
love all of you bless all of you. Like I said, a number of
you are already in the protection portal. If some of
you are thinking about it, and you have a question, just DM me
I'm happy to answer questions for you. If you're going to
continue doing the things that you're doing, it just makes
sense to go in there because this is what you're going to
get. And more. It just makes your life easier. And thank you
so much. Love the comments. You're going to see in the
Facebook group, I'm going to be dropping a request from all of
you. And it's to fill out a feedback form. All right, that
feedback form is incredibly important. Larissa, if you could
drop it, that'd be awesome. I'm going to put in the Facebook
group as well. Your feedback is priceless. Because what I'm
trying to do is I'm trying to help a lot of people. I really
am. There's a lot of people that don't know what you know. And so
it's actually a dangerous minefield, even within our own
communities that we're in now that we all know about. I don't
need to mention it right now. And so people are committing
trademark infringement, they're doing copyright issues, there's
patent issues. And I'm trying to make sure that people don't run
into any more problems. All the prizes have already been
distributed, Patricia. We did those in the other one as well.
So I just want to make sure that we give them the opportunity to
understand this stuff. All right. And so you're also going
to see a communication come to you in the next week that has to
do I'm going to give you the opportunity to become an
affiliate. Right? Why am I doing that? Because you're coaches?
Why should you be referring people and not making any money?
That's the way I see it. Because I know a lot of you are going to
be referring people you already are, you're already telling
people. And so the way I look at this is, well, you should be
rewarded for that. Like you work hard to have a following and to
train others. Why not pay you for it. So you'll see it,
there'll be an affiliate link for it. Okay. So that's my gift
to all of you to pay you back. And hopefully you've enjoyed all
this. And hopefully see some of you tomorrow. And with that, I'll
let you go. Larissa, I'm going to jump off. I don't know if
there's anything else that you need to do. But I'm going to go
take care of some stuff.
I'll stay here. If you have questions about affiliate to a
certain extent, or the protection portal, I have just
dropped some links. And in case you missed this clarification,
participation in the challenge is prerequisite to joining the
protection portal. So what that means is you can't become an
affiliate and immediately get people in the portal. They'll
first come to the next challenge, which will be in two
months in April, exact date not set yet. But be thinking about
who you can start referring. I know there's someone here today
who I was in the first challenge, obviously. And like
immediately, I was like, here's the date, go sign up now. Now
Christmas gift to yourself. Do it now. So grab that link. He'd
love your feedback. Still go live. Or, you know, if you want
to do a testimonial video, he'd love those as well. Everybody
who spoke today, we've got that recorded. In all days, we have
most everything I'm recording. So just thank you all. Thank you
for your love of me, your support of protection of the
protection, protect your idea challenge, Peter, we'll see you
tomorrow. And what do we say there was another event set up
for next Thursday, 6pm Eastern 3pm Pacific, whatever time it is
down under or in the UK around the world for a welcome. Welcome
meeting, getting used to the protection portal. And then the
second Wednesday of every month from noon to 1.30 Eastern is the
normal once a month protection portal meeting. So love the
love. Love you guys.