Welcome to Empower You. I'm Amy Stevens. You may have heard Pastor Steve's podcast
where we had a conversation about public policy engagement or civic engagement.
You know, COVID changed a lot of things in our community and this is where the
road really exploded in membership and where people began to get engaged. And so
Pastor Steve came to me and said, hey, would you consider volunteering to help
lead this effort? We have all kinds of views in our church, diverse views. And
really, how do we make sense of that? How do we move forward? People are exhausted,
a lot of people angry, some just trying to raise their kids. How do we stay
engaged? And I'm convinced it's through big, important little things, things that
you and I can do every day. And that's what you're going to hear on these
podcasts. You're gonna hear from people in the community, school board members,
you're going to hear from people that work in the life, pro-life space. You're
going to hear from legislators, people that are going to talk to us about what
their lives are really like, what their jobs are really like, and actually how we
can make a difference and or support them. And so that is the hope for Pastor
Steve. That's the hope that I have. And we look forward to engaging with you.
Hi, this is Amy Stevens. We're back with Empower You. And I am joined today by a
wonderful dear friend and colleague, Diane Ferrara, who is the CEO of the
Pro-Life Ministry, Save the Storks. Diane, welcome. Thank you, Amy. What a pleasure
to be here. It's so exciting to be with you on this podcast and share more about what we're doing.
Well, I'm excited about Storks. I want to say I have been around many a pro-life
ministry. I have respect for the work that we have to do. But one of the things
that so has attracted me to Storks and where Storks is going is the idea that
Diane and some of the people that have joined Save the Storks, they didn't have
their whole life in a nonprofit ministry. They didn't wake up and say, okay, I'm
called to do this. They were believers working in the secular field of what?
Global jewelry, global luxury jewelry. One thing I love about that is they
completely understand the idea of customer service, customer first. What do
we need? How do we think out of the box, right? I had not heard this in many a
year, being at pro-life events, and I went, this is something. I really am
intrigued. There's so many life ministries. We have a great thing in
Colorado Springs. I mean, we have a lot of strong ministries, Life Network and just
a number of other people. But what has attracted me to this has been how you're
approaching things. And particularly, I want to hear how did you get to Save the
Storks? How did you get there? I met you in D.C. and I was blown away by what I
saw. And how funny, we share the same hairdresser. That's how you meet. That's
how people...
Blood for Shirley, right?
That's how, you know, we met through our hairdresser. She said, oh, you need to
meet Diane. And then she would tell Diane, oh, you need to meet Amy. And so
here we are. I want to hear how you got with Storks.
Yeah, Amy, thanks again. So my story actually begins as a child. So I was
adopted as a baby. I was adopted in Orange County, California. In fact, on my
birth certificate, my name is Baby Girl Martinez, because the birth mother who
chose life for me, she was married to a gentleman, his last name was Martinez. And
they decided not to name me because they knew adoption was their plan. They were
married. They had four little boys at the time. But she had had a one night
stand. It was the 60s. So for anyone watching that's, you know, saying, oh, we
would never do that. The 60s, everything happened in droves.
And 70s.
So she went out to a bar, had a one night stand with a musician and found out she
was pregnant. And she knew the baby was not her husband's. And in an effort to
really save her marriage, she decided to drive to Mexico to abort me. So this this
was 1966. And abortion was not legal at that time in California. So she went with
another friend who was in an unplanned pregnancy. They drove south about 90
minutes, two hours. And by the time she got to that clinic, she decided not to
abort me. And I did not know that story until I started working at Save the
Storks. And I shared my testimony. I think it was the video that they recorded it
when we met in DC. Yeah, she watched that one night. And she said, I have
something to tell you. So that that profoundly impacted me. But that was
after I was already at Storks. I grew up in a living home. Again, adoption was
just part of my DNA. That was part of my identity. I was so proud to be adopted.
My parents made me feel very loved. My adoption
mom died when I was eight years old. And so I really was without a mom, and I always wondered,
like, would my mom remember my birthday? And so I had always thought about that,
but always was so grateful that she did have me. And it wasn't until I was 26 that I met her.
And I learned a little bit about my story, and a little bits come out here and there.
But I had always considered myself to be pro-life. And we both grew up in Orange County as well.
And I grew up about two miles from Disneyland, so the happiest place on earth. But on the way
to one of my part-time jobs on Cotella Avenue, I would drive by a clinic that there were
protesters outside. They had the pictures of the baby parts, and they had a bullhorn,
and they were screaming at these women going into the clinic. And as a 16, 17-year-old teenager,
all I could think was, there's probably friends from my school that are going there. And
these people who were so well-meaning on the streets protesting, they were actually
scaring the women into the comfort of Planned Parenthood, where it was probably peaceful. And
they said, you're doing the right thing. And I had never really done much in terms of support
the pro-life movement until I was involved in the foster care community. I was a volunteer in
California, and I volunteered at a pregnancy center in Pasadena, California. And that was
an eye-opener, because I realized there are options for women. They strategically had a
location on Lake Avenue, and it was about a half-mile from Planned Parenthood. The challenge
was they had a big neon sign that said, open, pre-pregnancy test. But it brought some women in.
Of course it would.
It did. But again, having a marketing background working in retail, working most of my career with
brand experience.
An incredible marketer and brand management. Amazing.
Yeah. I think I knew at this pregnancy center, they weren't really attracting women
in the way that maybe they could be.
Yes.
Yeah.
And by the way, during your time, I was working in the abortion industry, right?
Right.
And where people aplenty were in the waiting room, and where it was great pay.
Yeah, right.
You could, you know, it was great pay, and gorgeous offices, and you just don't need
counseling. You can just come right over here, rush them in, rush them out. Just, yeah. I mean,
it's so-
The rushing part is what gets me. And that's when I learned about Save the Storks in 2018,
I think, and joined as a marketing director here. And what I loved about Save the Storks
as a ministry was it wasn't about rushing women. It was about educating women. It was about letting
women know that they were loved and that they were cared for. And they had a choice, and that
choice didn't have to be abortion. And that was the first time I heard choice used in a way that
wasn't the narration of the left. It was something that Save the Storks was using with,
I mean, just complete love and letting women know, look, we know you have this option. We know that
you are pregnant, that you don't want that baby, but we want to give you another option. And that's
where the mobile medical units came into play. And I thought, what is this organization called
Save the Storks? I thought the name was clever, but I thought, is this for real?
Yeah, no. I thought the same thing.
I met the people based here in Colorado Springs, national organization. At the time,
we had around 40 mobile medical clinics. Now, five years later, we have 95 on the road in 33 states.
I've never heard of that either. I've never heard of a mobile medical. But
one thing Diane and I have been talking about is this concept that, yes, we have volunteers. And
yes, there are pregnancy centers that do noble work throughout the United States. But the idea is
pregnancy testing, the idea of finding out doesn't just happen between the hours of nine
and 4 p.m. And the thing I love about these medical units is the idea that you start at four,
you can go to midnight, right? I mean, you could literally, in a way, be like an Uber to say,
great, you found out you think you're pregnant. We can verify that. We can get some counseling here.
I just love that idea, concept. And one thing I did not realize was
on the mobile medical clinics, they're given the pregnancy test, which is medical grade. And then
they have an ultrasound, which is free. And the women are able to hear the baby's heartbeat and
see the baby on alert. We have a huge screen in these mobile medical clinics. And what I found
out was these women go to Planned Parenthood for the free pregnancy test, and then they're sold
on abortion. When they have the ultrasound, they turn off the volume and they turn the screen away
so the woman can't see the baby. And I thought if they are all about women's health care,
and they are about true women's choice, why are they afraid to let her hear that heartbeat?
Nothing to see here. No, no, nothing. And we had a coworker just last Friday,
we had her 16-year-old daughter call Planned Parenthood.
Just for a little, you know, secret shopper. That's what we do in marketing, we do secret shoppers.
This woman didn't even ask a 16-year-old girl, and she sounded younger on the call,
didn't ask her what her mental state was.
You know, what's your condition? How are you feeling about this?
What puts you in this position?
You know what they said?
Well, if you don't have insurance, we'll get you on, you know, state aid.
I think it was $680 for an abortion.
We can do a chemical abortion or a surgical abortion.
Do you want to come in tomorrow, Saturday, or Sunday?
Less than 24 hours.
And you don't have to tell your mom anything.
So if this young girl had any kind of suicide ideation, or if it was a date rape,
they didn't even ask those questions.
It was like, come on in, this is the cost, we'll get you in and out.
Holy moly.
They even told her, you know, if you come in for the abortion pill,
which is now given out like candy, sadly.
Kids in junior high school are selling it on the grounds.
Supposed telehealth, where literally I could be sitting, you know, like this,
and say, yeah, I'm six weeks.
And no ultrasound.
And no one to tell you.
How's that health care?
Right.
And where's the science, right? There's no science behind that.
Exactly.
But this young lady was told, you know, you can drive yourself,
if you want to come in, we'll give you a little bag with your abortion pills.
Or if you want to do the surgical abortion, you just need someone to drive you.
But again, you don't have to tell your mom.
Right.
It would be harder for me to make an appointment to get a filling.
Oh, please.
They would have asked me 20 questions before they would have hung up.
Exactly.
Yet to abort your baby.
Or me at Walgreens trying to get a prescription filled.
I mean, it was literally like DoorDash.
It was so sad.
But that is the state Colorado finds itself in.
I mean, we are an abortion destination.
There has been millions of dollars given for such, right?
Yes.
And our governor proudly just says, hey, you know, we're an abortion destination state.
Which makes, in my mind, the whole criticalness of having something like a mobile medical van available.
It would be great if we could just get one.
Right?
I mean, never mind two or three.
Throughout the state, particularly around campuses or other areas where, you know, someone...
You generally get the idea of where people are calling from.
But, I mean, in Denver alone.
Right?
They're flying into Denver Airport.
Women are getting $4,000 from their employers.
They're flying in from Texas, Oklahoma, you name it.
They're flying into Denver Airport.
And there is actually a brand experience manager from Planned Parenthood who's greeting these women.
It's basically like they have a first-class vacation.
They have their hotel booked, list of restaurants.
Oh, and by the way, the abortion appointment is at this time on this day.
Talk about your navigation.
You don't have to think a thing.
And the state is profiting from it.
Oh, yeah.
Profiting.
And the sad thing is, and the contradiction here, as I saw in the news a couple of weeks ago,
you know, they were talking about all the immigrants coming through.
Right.
And the mayor of Denver, bless his heart, you know, we wish him well.
We pray for him.
But he said, you know, we need help.
We need federal funding to help with these immigrants and cover the cost.
And I'm like, yet you're taking money, $4,000 a shot, to bring women in to abort their babies.
And our tax dollars.
And tax dollars, yes.
Which I just don't even think in this last session, unreal, right?
It was unreal what we heard when we were at the state capitol.
Yeah, so for those who may or may not know, there was a bill this past session,
a Senate Bill 190, 23-190, that really is trying to close down pregnancy centers,
and really by gag rule and intimidation, not have you say the word abortion pill reversal,
which really, let's be clear, that is progesterone therapy.
I have a son through in vitro.
I had to take progesterone.
Women who are prone to miscarriage take progesterone.
Doctors prescribe progesterone in a number of different ways to help women keep a pregnancy, first of all.
But what they want to do, under deceptive marketing practices, is make an outlaw the use of that.
If a young girl, let's take this 16-year-old girl, right?
And she takes her first abortion pill and then goes, oh my gosh, what did I do?
I don't want to do this, right?
And so she's frantically looking to where she can go to reverse that, right?
That's really what this is really about.
What this law would do is say, sorry, sorry, you've taken your pill.
Sorry, we're not here to save your baby, or if you've had a change of heart.
of mind. And by the way, working even within the abortion industry, you would see people
change their mind all the time, right? They would take their birth control pills and then
they would get an argument with their boyfriend and dramatically, as want some teenage years
or whatever, throw them out the window. And then they come back pregnant because, oh,
I made up with my boyfriend, right? Make up sex. And then, boom, you know, you're pregnant.
And we saw changing of minds all the time. But now this issue of choice really isn't
choice. It's really a gag rule. And I think we've got a number of free speech issues,
but they're serious. They're serious about shutting it down. What they're going to try
to do is use the medical board, the nursing board, the pharmaceutical board as the heavy
hand of law to try to, you know, so doctors, people who are brave, who might, or even
be in an ER, right? Girls show up in an ER. I took this pill. I took mifepristone. I want
to reverse, you know, what, what kind of position does that put doctors in? It's just terrible.
It's terrible. And you know, doctors are called to save human lives. And what we've heard
is if a woman does go to the emergency room and she changed her mind or, you know, she's
bleeding for whatever reason, because of that pill, she's told to tell the doctor on staff
in ER that she's miscarrying. She's not even to tell them that she took the abortion pill.
So they're being told to lie. So this poor woman who, you know, 20 years ago, if you
go into an abortion clinic, you can say, you know, the abortionist gave you that abortion.
Now, what these women are going to feel, what they're going to have on their hearts
and minds forever is that they gave themselves the abortion. How is that treating women with
love and equality? You're putting this horrible burden on a woman who's already, you know,
no woman, I don't believe any woman wakes up and says, well, I hope I'm pregnant today
because I really want to have an abortion. It's a last resort for women. It's something
that they feel like they're, they're not ready to be a mom for whatever reason. And they
feel desperate. And it's also what society's been telling them. And many of these girls,
it's not just their generation. It's, you know, our generations, we've been told since
we were young, oh, and abortion's okay. It just takes care of the problem, right? That's
what feminism is. That's what empowerment, having your career, get your career, go to
college. So these young girls, like they're, they're probably third generation thinking
that abortion's okay, but now they're taking the pill and they're, they're basically their
own abortionist. And we, we talk to people because we have to think as parents, even
Christian parents. Think about your daughter coming home from college. She's afraid. She's
like, oh my gosh, how am I going to face my parents? I'm pregnant. She's going to take
that abortion pill in the bathroom upstairs while mom's making the turkey dinner and all
the fixings. And she's going to have this horrible guilt on her shoulders and isn't
going to be able to talk to anyone. And if this woman is already prone to depression
or has any kind of, you know, just mental health challenges, which so many people do
nowadays, it's a crazy world we live in. If she can't go to her mom and dad, what are
her chances at life? You know, she might take her own life because of this decision she
made. You know, it is so odd about that. I mean, someone would go, Diane, you're, you're
scaremongering. You know, again, how many, you know, you're the fear based, you are the
fearful. And yet we sat in a hearing to hear if taxpayers didn't pay for this, people would
kill themselves, right? Got to do, got to, got to do that. Got to pay for it. They'll
kill themselves, but nevermind if you said, how does this already affect the mental health
of what's going on? I mean, we have so many kids right now over the age of really even
over 15 on, on mental health issues, right? We were, this burden is only growing more.
I want to switch that to then another outreach. You've two outreaches within Save the Storks
that I'm that I love first is for every woman, right? And then also your newest one, dare
to be a dad, which I took a look at your video the other day and just went, wow. I sent it
to my son. I thought, wow. But so talk about that. Yeah. So Save the Storks a few years
ago, we partnered with Matt Hammett. Matt Hammett is lead singer of the band Sanctus
Real Swin Dove Awards, Grammy nominations. Many of you probably know him from a song,
gave me that beautiful song that makes me cry every time about a man who just wants
to step up for his wife and kids. And Matt just had it on his heart that young men who
are accompanying their girlfriends to, um, it might be Planned Parenthood. It might be
a pregnancy center. Um, when she finds out she's pregnant, oftentimes the dads are told,
Hey, wait in the car or just drop her off. You know, we've, we've been at Planned Parenthoods
with sidewalk advocates where the men are not allowed to go in. We hear from, from men
across the country that they are not allowed to go into Planned Parenthood.
Pregnancy centers, they are allowed to walk in.
In fact, you mentioned Life Network,
fantastic pregnancy center here in Colorado Springs.
They encourage dads to come
and they have a beautiful program for dads
that teach them how to be a father.
And we know that 79% of the time when dad speaks up,
when he speaks up for that preborn child
and tells his girlfriend,
hey, I'm gonna be here for you.
I wanna be that dad for the child.
79% of the time that woman will choose life for her baby.
And Matt, when he started to hear these statistics,
he had a situation with his third child
where he was diagnosed in the womb with half of a heart
and it was a life-threatening illness.
And they were told to abort.
And he felt like, man, as a married man who,
I have a career, I have a beautiful wife,
we have a roof over our head.
What about that man who maybe lives with his parents
or maybe he's in his college dorm,
he can't afford a child.
What is he going to think?
So he wrote this booklet, Dare to Be a Dad,
there's online curriculum as well.
And it really is letting a young man know,
like, you were created for this.
Yes, the baby is probably coming sooner than you planned.
It gets a little bit into like how,
ideally God wants us to wait until marriage to have sex.
But in this case, it's too late, right?
That train left the station.
And it's really a seven-day curriculum
that's encouraging a young man
to learn what it takes to be a dad.
And it's not rocket science, right?
They were really built for this.
And again, they've been told by society and by culture
and popular culture, especially,
that a lot of men don't have a voice.
And this is going to give men a voice.
And we just encourage men in youth groups even,
could be teenagers.
We could do it here.
I mean, we can get something like this going.
I mean, Barone has a fantastic,
you have a new fatherhood program.
They have a new fatherhood program.
I think there's so much we can do to uplift.
Yeah, and I am, it is just like the videos
will be on YouVersion soon.
So it's a seven-day devotion.
So if you know a young man in your life,
we feel that, you know,
in order for that woman to be equipped
to choose life for her baby,
you know, we need dad involved as well.
So let's give men a voice, right?
Let's be on the outside.
Isn't that actually what choice should be about, right?
And again, I applaud this just because we have,
I mean, I think I sent you stats the other day
on just single moms and the loneliness
and the lack of fatherhood,
the lack of male presence in a life, right?
For a young boy, it's desperate.
And we can, we should do better.
We can do better.
Now talk a bit, tell me about For Every Woman then.
What's going on there?
For Every Woman is something
that we just both connected over.
So we know that a woman, when she's Googling,
I think I'm pregnant, it's two in the morning,
she's on her phone, she's terrified.
Planned Parenthood will spend money.
We've heard up to $400,000 a week in some cases
to reach that woman, to reach that.
She could be 16, she could be 12, she could be 35.
Planned Parenthood is just taking over the internet.
Again, spending almost half a million dollars a week
with abortion messaging is tragic.
That's why they don't want you on the internet.
They don't, no.
They wanna take you off under deceptive advertising.
Yeah, not just us,
the great pregnancy center around the country,
any pro-life organization, they want us off.
So For Every Woman is really something that we've built
to lift up the entire pro-life movement.
Life-affirming services.
So that woman, again, when it's two in the morning
and she's afraid, she's seeing those ads that are paid ads.
She's also seeing organic content that will let her know,
hey, you have other options.
And it's just like my birth mom.
It's giving her time to pause,
to click some different sites,
find life-affirming organizations in her local town
where she can go, no pressure, right?
No cost.
Find out.
If housing's her challenge and you're afraid,
we've got housing partners.
If it's health insurance, we've got partners for that.
It might be daycare.
Man, if I could say one thing on this podcast today,
I would love for churches to consider opening your doors,
having daycare Monday through Friday.
Have a sliding scale.
The moms who can afford to pay the full price,
they will help offset the cost for that single mom
who can't afford daycare.
Daycare's a big, it's one of the main reasons
why a woman will abort her child.
Yet we have these empty buildings across America
Monday through Friday.
We have empty schools.
Empty schools, right.
And I really believe that as Christians,
we would help pay for that, right?
We could help.
That could be an offering above our tithes.
We could help cover the insurance, the teachers,
the daycare providers, whatever is needed at churches.
Imagine if two or three churches in each community
collaborate and said,
we're gonna have a community daycare
and we're going to be pouring into the community.
I was in Denver last week and there was an LGBTQ church,
one of those beautiful buildings.
And not here to judge.
but they had a daycare for the community.
And it was very public.
And I thought, man, if they're doing it,
why aren't the evangelical churches doing it?
You know, why aren't the Catholic churches
having daycares for the kids?
Anyway, that would give single moms
and just young families who don't have a lot of money
that opportunity to choose life.
And now we've got daycare taken,
taken care of, you know, job training, education.
If a mom says, well, I really wanted
to finish up high school,
this baby's gonna hamper that.
We've heard from women who go to grad school,
they can easily afford a baby,
but they feel that baby will cramp their style.
Let's figure out a way to make sure
that she can have her baby and her master's degree.
We have a campaign called My Baby, My Career,
and the coolest thing is it's our staff
that came up with that idea.
We had five young moms pregnant at the same time,
and they were all kind of wondering,
how are we gonna do this?
They all joined together and said,
you know, if we're having this question here
at Save the Storks where we're pro-family
and kids are always sitting in Zoom calls
with their babies on their laps,
moms and dads, what are moms doing
who work for, you know, Amazon
in their customer service center,
or, you know, maybe they're-
It's a good question.
I mean, Amazon will pay for your abortion.
Surely, would they pay for your daycare?
Right, or really, someone should ask.
Let that mom work from home, and why not?
People are so impactful and effective working from home.
So yeah, so For Every Woman is this incredible
just collaboration of other ministries around,
not just ministries, there's some, you know,
just government entities that, you know,
are providing services that women don't know about
that we're really getting the word out.
The awesome thing is, For Every Woman
is now coming to life because we have
a mobile medical clinic.
So something Save the Storks has done,
you know, in terms of our life-saving vehicle
for the last 11 years, we have this beautiful
new mobile medical clinic.
It not only has basically an OBGYN office on one side,
we have a counseling room on the other side.
It's beautiful, it'll be here in Denver next week.
It's great, that is so great, I love that.
Yes, and we had some social workers at an event,
and we had one of the senior social workers
said, where was this when I was 19?
Yeah.
Just broke your heart.
Right, it does.
Because we really want to recognize that for a woman,
you know, it's not just about the baby she's carrying,
she's afraid, you know, how am I going to be a mother?
There's so many other components to the decision.
It really is.
We need to, like, make sure that she's mentally healthy,
that we have her physical needs met,
that we have that community support.
And that's what, for every woman, it's,
the mobile clinic's really bringing our website to life.
Yes.
So we're not just preaching and telling women what to do,
and then leaving her after she has the baby, right?
Well, good luck, here's a box of diapers.
You chose life, way to go.
Right, no, we're going to be with her.
There's an organization called Life of a Single Mom.
They take care of moms until the children are 18,
and even into college.
It's fantastic.
Yeah, they've offered scholarships
to some of our moms in our pregnancy centers,
because a lot of moms who are single moms in the church,
they feel a little bit lost, right?
Mops is usually on a weekday, they have to go to work.
There might not be a single mom's Bible study, right?
Right, or something.
So they feel a little out of place.
So Life of a Single Mom is really partnering with churches
to make sure that single moms feel like
church is home for them.
You also partner with Every Mother's Advocate.
Oh, fabulous organization.
Yes, I'm really impressed by them.
Every Mother's Advocate is so cool.
It was created by Charlie.
It's Billy Graham's great-granddaughter.
Oh, wow.
And she had this vision, this idea in college,
in her dorm room, that women who lose their children
to foster care, again, it's not intentional,
but they don't have any support system.
So Every Mother's Advocate,
they partner with social workers,
and the social workers come to them saying,
hey, we've got a mom who needs a little extra help.
Right.
Maybe she needs help with her finances
so she can figure out how to keep her apartment.
She might need emotional support or a mentor
so she can get out of an abusive relationship.
Wow.
A lot of times, these are the reasons
women lose their children to foster care.
Sure.
It's not because they're hurting their children.
Poverty, huge.
It's poverty.
Poverty.
It's poverty and maybe neglect.
Yeah, neglect.
Neglect, yeah.
Yeah, so Every Mother's Advocate is interceding,
and as of last year, I think they had 260 women
who were able to parent their children.
Before they fostered care.
So they weren't taken by the system.
Yes.
And the system.
The system.
The social workers are thrilled because they don't want,
I'm sure social workers would love to have that child.
They prefer to have that child at home.
Right.
They would.
They would prefer that.
So again, there's so many incredible organizations
out there that are life-affirming.
Yes.
And we're just trying to bring them all together
and create awareness.
Yes.
In closing, and because this is part of Empower You,
I've been impressed with the number of young people
you have on staff and engaged.
How can our next generations get engaged
with Save the Storks and other ministries like this?
Yes.
Oh, thank you.
Well, we have.
a network of volunteers at Save the Storks.
So you can do anything from blogging
to helping with their social media.
You can volunteer at an event.
You can be an advocate for a mom.
You can set up a table at your college campus.
You can volunteer on one of our mobile clinics.
We have over 700 volunteers in our database now,
but we're looking to grow that.
We hear from volunteers and young people,
sometimes 12 or 13 year olds, they can do something.
We do have a young staff.
We have folks, you know, 22 years old,
you know, we have young dads, young moms.
It's amazing.
It's awesome.
Just amazing.
Well, I, you know, listen, I applaud you.
I applaud all the ministries
that are really working so hard here.
And there are ways to get involved.
There are ways to be empowered.
This is one of them.
The other thing is, you've got Dare to Be a Dad.
There's a lot going on.
And this may be the avenue that you feel prompted
to get engaged in.
That's what Empower U is all about.
And they can look it up, Save the Stork, right?
Savethestorks.com, and take advantage.
Diane, thank you so much for being here today.
Really appreciate it.
My pleasure.
Thank you.