Hey, everybody. How's everybody doing?
Happy Friday.
I realize I'm an attorney and litigator and all this other stuff, but I'm very down to earth.
You're going to find that out while we're together.
I know a number of you, so you know exactly what I'm talking about.
I'm going to make things very simplified for you, but I want to stress something really fast.
I just saw a notification come out about Otter AI.
Guys, Andy said it in a nice way.
I'm saying it in a stern way.
I'm a litigator, and I don't lose.
Turn off the AI.
Now, if you don't turn off the AI, you'll be kicked and banned.
All right?
So I'm trying to train everybody here on how to use things properly, how to equip their companies.
So just have mutual respect and do not record what I say at all in any way, shape, or form.
Because we find out and then we enforce it, and I have no desire to do that.
I want to try to take care of all you and make sure you do well going forward.
And so I ask for that mutual respect.
Ray, yes?
Hey, guys.
So I'm also getting notifications here in the chat for the same note-taking AI software.
We need those shut off, and I know some of you don't know how to, so I recommend that you exit the meeting,
shut down your software, and then try to come back in.
If you don't have a shut off button that you know how to shut it down.
But, again, I do see some alumni in here using those softwares, too, and you guys know better.
But, guys, please be sure, and you'll find out soon.
We want to get moving, so let's take care of that now.
All right?
So that we can get going full speed because I don't want to waste anyone's time.
It's a Friday.
I respect everyone's time.
You're going to see I run things very different from the way people typically run workshops
in that I try to streamline things, make them very easy to consume, give a lot of real-life examples.
I don't flower it up with a lot of, like, things that really aren't related to what we're talking about.
So you'll notice that right up front.
But I'm going to do a little video while you guys are taking care of the admin stuff here of getting rid of the AI transcription
and the AI video recording.
So I'm going to play a little video that a friend of mine, Billy Jean, did an intro on, which I think is hilarious.
He did a great job with this.
I'm just going to share this, and then we're going to get started.
It's going to be like two minutes, and then we're going to get going.
So let me share this with all of you.
I want to share the audio, too, so everybody can hear well.
And here we go.
It would be amazing if we had an attorney here today that's won every award that you can think of,
that's been in the game for almost 25 years, that has written and prosecuted hundreds of patents,
that is a master of understanding intellectual property and understands the future and is all in on AI.
And not just as a practitioner of law, but an entrepreneur himself.
Wouldn't that be sick if I just went out and I got the best,
and instead of y'all paying him $600 an hour, if you can even get access to him,
that I just brought him out here right now?
Roll the intro.
Open AI scraped the Internet, and it then cataloged it all, threw it into its neural network,
and made it accessible through prompts.
What if there's something illegally there on the Internet?
All of this stuff you guys are learning about now, you guys are ahead of the curve,
because the next step is people are going to start suing people for the content that's coming out of these AI platforms.
I use artificial intelligence practically every day.
I got no problems with it, but I know how to use it and not get sued.
The number one issue is the copyright office believes that the author is the artificial intelligence.
Generative AI is artificial intelligence that takes a creative work, a copyrighted work,
ingests its copy as it uses it, and lots of works, and combines that and learns from it to create other creative works, right?
To create artwork, and that is really what the copyright office is most concerned about.
And I type in green frog with a hat.
What's going to come out is produced entirely by AI.
My prompt is really not giving it much information of any type.
And so what's coming out is purely AI.
That is not going to be protected by copyright.
Especially with AI, you don't know where that came from.
And if it's spitting out somebody's brand, that's not a good defense.
The AI software platforms that are out there, they'll give you that license,
the temporary license to use what you have in a commercial environment as long as you're paying them.
The second that you stop paying them, you're lost.
commercial license is now gone, you can't understand why it is that using the result
of this certain AI program is going to get you sued if you don't understand the principle behind the law.
All right, let's get rolling here. So I just love that dramatic music like
so everybody's attention is all grabbed right now. Ray, I shot you a message on the admin side.
I need to get rolling. I don't want to waste any more time. So I tried to buy us some extra time
to deal with that. But at this point, if people are doing it, just kick them, right? And I want
to get moving. All right. So this is probably one of the hottest topics out there, quite frankly.
People are dealing with artificial intelligence software issues
everywhere, like literally everywhere in their banks. Even to the point of I heard today
somebody complaining about something that a lot of you know about, which is Zoom was using
artificial intelligence for a short period of time. So let me tell you a little bit about what
happened. So it was in March. In March, Zoom came out, made an announcement that in July,
they were going to start using artificial intelligence to start taking some of your
information that's within their system so as to provide you with new tools using artificial
intelligence so that you could automatically have summaries provided, letters provided,
emails provided. Well, in July, it was actually it wasn't July. It was August. Yeah, it was in
August. I believe it was August 6th. Somebody posted on a blog out there, hey, isn't this like
a problem? Has anybody actually thought about the fact that there's a third party who's taking
your information and they're gathering that information, they're putting it into a neural
network, they're massaging that data, and then they're formulating it in a certain way?
Like, doesn't that bother you when you're talking about private information? You might be,
especially as lawyers, we were using Zoom for everything, like confidential communications
with clients and litigation matters and prosecution matters, people that are dealing
with medical issues. That's HIPAA information. All that stuff could potentially be utilized.
And so all of a sudden, this big buzz started. And then it got back to Zoom. And Zoom said,
oh my gosh, these people are going to like storm the castle and like bring their pitchforks and
torches and like torches and we're dead. And so what they did, they pulled the plug. That's the
power that you have. Every single person here, you have power. You don't need to sit back
and allow things to just happen. Now, something to keep in mind, I use AI. I love AI. I love AI
software. I use it for tons of different projects. But what I have to my advantage is I understand
how intellectual property law works. I get it. I understand how copyrights work. I understand
how trademarks work. I understand how ownership issues work. So that when I'm using these AI
software tools, I do it in a way that will not hurt my company, that will actually be to the
advantage of myself, my clients, actually makes my law firm grow, my educational business grow,
and we're taking off through the use of AI software. But the key is that I know how to
use it properly. Over the next hour and a half to two hours, you are going to learn
certain things that I would say over 90% of people do not know.
Make sure every single line is muted. Nobody should have the right to unmute.
Okay. So you're going to learn things that literally lawyers don't know in many cases,
okay? Because this is a very specialized area. I was speaking at a Bar Association meeting
only last month. And as I was talking about some of these topics, when it came to
disclosure, like, is this a true disclosure? If I'm using as an example, Chad TPT,
which is owned by OpenAI, and I use that for uploading certain information on a patent or
a disclosure, right? To draft claims or something like that. I said, you can't do that. Because
that's a third party server. And OpenAI came out and said, whatever you put into their system
can potentially be accessed by a third party. And we're going to go into this in a lot of detail
together. Like, by step by step, I'll show you their own terms and conditions. That's something
else that you're going to learn here. I'm going to show you some terms and conditions so you
understand that I'm not making this up. So while I'm a fan of AI,
I also know how to use it.
And I'm very cautious about this.
And just so we're clear,
we're just in the beginning stages.
There are a lot of companies that are using it
without your knowledge.
It's gonna become your responsibility to understand,
are your banks using it?
Like, is your attorney using it?
Is your marketing team using it?
Are your event planners using it?
Like, who is actually using this
and then figure out what they're doing with that data
and actually how to prevent people from grabbing your data.
So because I wanna respect your time,
I'm gonna go right to what I'm going to offer at the end now.
The reason why is because I wanna be able to just train you
and not play any games
because I don't believe in playing games
and trying to like guide people,
guide people, guide people to an offer.
I don't do that.
Anybody who knows me knows I don't do that.
So what I'm gonna do is I'm gonna show you
exactly what the offer is now
because one of the offers is the replay
and I keep getting texts.
Even now, I'm getting direct messages from people saying,
are you gonna give us a replay?
Is there a replay?
So it's a lot easier if I just tell you now.
There is a replay, okay?
Let me show you what we're offering.
Ray, can you,
can you share that?
Are you needing me to present?
Yeah, sorry, I was working on the AI thing.
Sorry, hold on one second.
Oh, I can do it.
I can do it.
I already got it up.
Okay.
This is only gonna take a minute guys
and then we're gonna jump in deep into the subject matter.
But I have to make sure that you're all equipped for this.
And the reason why,
just so everybody understands why I'm doing this,
I've been in IP for 25 years.
I can't tell you how many companies I have seen shut down
because of litigation, trademark litigation,
patent litigation, copyright litigation,
for simple things, things that we should know
but the problem is that this is not taught
in most business schools.
I don't think anybody here wants to go to three years
of law school and probably get like a 10th
of what you're gonna learn here.
And it's not something that you can easily gain access to.
So I have a very protective nature about myself.
I was born in the projects of Brooklyn.
I was very blessed to get to where I am today.
I ran one of the largest and most successful IP groups
in New England for a really great law firm.
And the situation is that I don't want you
getting in trouble.
So with that being said, I wanted to create something
that will train you on what I know,
some of the basics of what I know.
So then no matter what happens
with this AI software going forward,
you're gonna be prepared.
I don't care if they come out with a new program
that's used by your bank.
I don't care if it's used by your marketing team,
you're gonna be prepared
because you'll know some of these basics
that are necessary.
That's why I created these packages for you.
And so the first one is very straightforward, very simple.
It's called AI Essentials.
Number one, you're gonna get the replay for 45 days.
You're gonna get a digital handbook,
which are the top three IP mistakes made by entrepreneurs.
Now, just to be clear what this digital handbook is,
I'm telling you that after years of litigation,
of seeing clients run into issues,
people come into my doors in my law firm
because they got into trouble.
These are some of the top issues
that have to be considered by entrepreneurs.
So I put them together in a digital handbook.
And then you're gonna get a free ticket
to what's called the Protect Your Idea Challenge.
That's our catalog.
Like literally our, like if there was a manual
on how to learn intellectual property law
as an entrepreneur,
this would be literally on the front of the catalog.
It is a, it's a five-day training.
There's a number of people that have been here.
Tony's been here.
April's been in it.
You guys can, if you've been in it,
type in the chat where your thoughts are
about the Protect Your Idea Challenge
just so people understand.
In this training, it's five days, one hour a day,
online on Zoom like this.
There are real life examples.
I'll give you one example.
If you're starting up a corporation
and you do, you go to Secretary of State's website.
And when you go to Secretary of State's website,
you search for the name of your company.
You see it's clear and you start using it.
You can be sued in two years or in a year
or just right after use
because that's not a trademark search.
That's called a trade.
That's called a business name search.
We talk about all these things
so that you'll be successful as an entrepreneur.
That entire package is 95 bucks.
And just so you guys know, I bill it $600 an hour.
So I'm doing this for you guys to help you out.
Every single person here should take that.
Honestly, that's a no brainer.
That's simple.
You're gonna get the replays.
You get the digital handbook
and you'll get the Protect Your Idea Challenge.
challenge which is actually taking place September 18th. Okay now, there's a number of people here
who have already reached out to me by email and actually got a phone call today by a certain
gentleman on what I'm giving you here. So imagine those three things, the handbook,
the Protect Your Idea challenge, and the replays. Now I'm going to add something for some of you
that need this. After I finish talking here, a number of you that have companies are going to
say, well, is this okay? Is this all right? Can I do this? Can I do that? And some of you that
are entrepreneurs are going to try to figure out, is this okay? Is that not? So what I'm going to
provide for you is the following. There's three additions to it. Actually, there's two main ones,
but here's the biggest one. The first thing I'm going to do is I'm going to give you
the replays for a full year. All right, that's a no-brainer. That's very simple. The second thing
that I'm going to do is you're also obviously going to have that Protect Your Idea challenge
ticket, which we already mentioned. The value of that is $51.85 already. The next thing I'm going
to do is give you that digital resource. You're going to get that as well, but now we get into
new stuff. I created what's called Alune. It's a six-month network. Once a month, I'm going live
to train all of you, and it's just going to be content and questions and answers. That's it.
So what you're going to see at the last half hour of today is I'm going to take your questions and
do a question and answer session live. Now, you're not paying $600 an hour to get answers,
but just so we're clear, none of this is legal advice. Everything that I'm saying,
not a single thing here is legal advice. It's kind of a tradition if you're wondering why
I'm drinking. You'll see a lot of people on the line drinking. It's because whenever I say it's
not legal advice, we all drink. Since it's Friday, I really don't know what you guys are drinking
right now, but it's a six-month network. I'm going to keep you up to date on what all the changes are.
The Copyright Office right now has opened the door for you to comment to them directly
on your opinion as to whether what is created through AI software should be copyrighted.
The door just opened a week and a half ago. In that network, I'm going to show you how to
prepare a communication to the Copyright Office and file it on your behalf, on your company's
behalf, to ask them to change the law and to change their policies so that they will actually
allow you to obtain a copyright for something that is created using ChatGPT, using MidJourney,
as long as they're very detailed prompts. That has not happened yet. You're going to get access
to that. Then finally, you're going to get one more thing here, which is extremely unique.
You're going to get a one-on-one with me for an hour. We can do a vulnerability assessment of you,
your company, and we can talk about anything that has to do with IP. I don't care if it's like
you're doing a software app and you have to figure out what kind of legal rights can obtain to my
software app. I've got a new logo that's being made by GoDaddy. How do I make sure that I don't
have to pay a license fee every single year to make sure they assign our right title and interest
over to you? All of that is going to be included in that hour. We can hit any IP issue, anything
you're trying to protect in your ideas, and assess your AI vulnerability. All of that, that whole
package is being provided for all of you guys. The value of that is almost $19,000. We've computed
the number of hours that have gone into this. You're getting that for $995. That's insane.
That's all I'm going to say about that. That's insane. That's an hour and a half of my time
for getting a good 20 hours of my time. The way I see it is that if I have a lot of people in a
room, I can train a lot of people at once. Instead of my taking 20 hours with 20 people, I can do it
here and help everybody at once. That is what's on the table. You guys will see the links. You can
jump on that as fast as you can. The door closes Sunday at midnight and will not reopen.
We had an offer before that closed. That's gone. Now we're moving forward because I've got to now
train all of you. Those are the two offers. Jump in. If you have questions, you can stay at the end.
We can talk about it. I want to start jumping into why you came here. That is
to learn more about AI and the law for AI. Let me share my screen. Let's get started.
Okay, I'm not much into slides, personally.
For anybody who's seen me, I've had the privilege
of being on a good number of stages,
training on not only AI, but a lot of different topics
in intellectual property law.
I mean, it truly is humbling to do that.
But I've had a number of people ask me,
can you create a slide deck to kind of,
so people can keep along, because there's so much detail.
So I did, so I created a slide deck for you.
So I'm gonna present next to a slide deck.
First of all, generative AI,
generative artificial intelligence.
Really, it's just, what's going on,
I'm really simplifying this,
because I've been writing patents in the AI arena
for over 16 years.
AI is not new, like neural networks are not new.
What you're seeing now through ChatGPT,
through MidJourney, through Otter AI,
what you're seeing are new graphical user interfaces,
and really cool new features where you can interact
and gain something that's very valuable to you
as an entrepreneur, as a business owner,
or an employee of a company.
But it's not new, the technology is not new.
So what you're essentially doing
is using these deep learning models
to generate very high quality text, images, video, audio,
all sorts of different things.
And it's supposed to essentially simulate
what a human being would do,
but the fact of the matter is it's really just
these deep learning mathematical algorithmic models
that are learning from data that you put into it,
and it's massaging that data,
and it's getting smarter and smarter
to give you better and better and better results.
That's really a very simplified explanation.
There are a lot of AI programs.
They're coming out literally,
like every week new ones are coming out,
and that's not gonna stop, it's gonna increase.
I was on two days ago and somebody was talking about,
this kind of blew my mind,
I actually texted a friend of mine
who knows Russell Bronson himself,
and I said, we gotta stop this.
So somebody who's an influencer went live and said,
hey, you can use this AI software to just click on here,
type in the URL for somebody's funnel,
paste it there, and then pull that into ClickFunnels,
and all of their funnel will now populate,
boom, into your ClickFunnels,
and you can just change a few words and run with it.
That's called copyright infringement, okay?
Just in case nobody knew this,
that's copyright infringement.
That's copying of the content,
that's copying of the images,
that's copyright infringement.
Not only that, but the general look and feel
of a funnel or a website,
that's potentially protectable under trade dress.
So you're gonna learn things that, again,
a lot of people don't know,
but just understand that
what a lot of people are doing right now,
you're gonna see a big crash happen,
meaning there's gonna be a lot of lawsuits,
there's gonna be a lot of AI software platforms
that are either gonna shut down,
or new ones are gonna have to come up to fix it,
or you're gonna see people try to fix the fact
that they scraped data that they shouldn't have scraped.
We'll talk about all this in detail,
but for your own knowledge,
just understand that new ones are coming up
like almost daily, quite frankly.
So on the image side, you have like Mid Journey.
We'll talk a little bit about that.
On the tech side, you've got ChatGPT,
you've got Jasper, you've got Bard,
you've got a lot of other ones.
And there's other ones that are out there.
I just kind of listed them in the categories for you.
Personally, I love Otter AI.
I can do a video recording, take a video recording,
transcribe it, turn it into a summary,
then take that summary, upload it into ChatGPT,
and say, assume the position of the head of a law firm
where a meeting just took place.
To provide encouragement of those
who did not make it to the meeting,
please take the following summary
to create five bullet points that are meaningful
and helpful to other people within the company
that build enthusiasm and excitement
about working for the law firm
and create a summary email for them.
Boom, 10 seconds.
I mean, within 10 seconds,
what's literally happened is something
that took five hours before.
I mean, that's how I'm running things.
However, I do realize that I can't talk about anything
that's proprietary, confidential during that meeting.
Because if I do, I just take that data
and it's now in Otter AI's platform.
So I've got to realize what exactly can I
and can I not do with these programs,
which you're gonna learn very shortly, okay?
I'm gonna hit this in two stages.
First, I'm gonna-
to talk about the three major stages
that I saw about eight, nine months ago.
Then I'm going to talk about what you should do
when dealing with AI software platforms.
So we're gonna hit the first stage first,
then hit the second stage second.
I'm gonna give you real life examples.
If you have questions, type them in the chat
because those things are gonna,
yeah, Ray, I'll come to you in a second.
Because those things, my team is gonna grab,
put into a Google Doc for me to review
and then select some of them.
And I might call on some of you on the questions.
Yeah, Ray, go right ahead.
We are getting some requests.
So I just wanted to kind of fill you in here,
but we're getting requests for the whole package,
the 995 with AI Essentials or the AI Success Blueprint.
So I'm gonna drop the link here.
If you guys really wanna come in for that one-on-one
and to join our ALU network,
I'm gonna drop that link for you here.
That's fine, yeah.
And just so people understand,
I usually don't do an offer like upfront.
I usually take the time,
like that's the way you're supposed to run these things
so you can help people.
And you know what I found is that it's,
all right, let's be really frank.
It's Friday and you guys are here at like six something PM.
I need to have a certain level of respect for you
and not play games and just be like,
guys, this is what's available.
It's here to help you.
You're gonna want it.
I'm gonna show you why you're gonna want it
for the next two hours.
But here it is.
Now I can just focus and teach you
and not have to worry about that
and make sure that you're all set.
So these are the three major stages
that I said were going to take place.
The very first one,
and this was like eight, nine months ago.
I said the first one was people were gonna realize
that their content,
that they're entering into these AI software platforms
are actually not being maintained as confidential.
Because a lot of people are using them
as if they are like using Microsoft Word on your computer.
It's not, that is not the case.
Your content in many situations
are going into a third party platform
and other people can access it through certain prompts.
Now there's ways around that, which I'm gonna teach you.
However, just keep that in mind.
That was the first stage I said was gonna happen.
Second stage I said was gonna happen
was that there was gonna be a lot of lawsuits
against the parties
who are creating these AI software platforms
like OpenAI, like Google, like Microsoft.
That was the second stage I said was gonna happen.
And the third stage I said was gonna happen
was that individuals were gonna get sued directly.
Meaning I go on and I use MidJourney.
I create some kind of image, right?
By typing in different prompts,
I get this really cool image.
It now becomes the front of my marketing campaign.
The party who actually owned the copyright
associated with that original image
finds out, sees it, sends me a cease and desist letter.
If they're nice, if they're not nice,
they sue me for copyright infringement
because they see I'm making a tremendous amount of money
off of a modified version of their image,
which is called copyright infringement.
This is why that Protector Idea Challenge is so important
is that you'll learn how to apply
copyrights and trademarks.
So I'm gonna show you these three stages
and how they've manifested.
Stages one and two have already taken place.
As if it was like some kind of prophetic word,
it's actually manifested already.
And I believe we're stepping into
within the next two months, stage three.
So let's go into stage one.
So in stage one, the first part,
let's talk about the AI generative software development
or package that are working on text
and then the ones that are working on images.
Okay, so like the text AI bots and the image AI bots,
let's talk about those.
So we're gonna keep this very simple.
Number one, probably one of the most popular ones
besides BARD when it comes to text is ChatGPT.
How many people here know what ChatGPT is?
Just by a show of hands.
Just wanna see, okay.
So there's some of you that don't know what ChatGPT is.
Okay, that's good to know.
All right, so ChatGPT is a program
where you can type in what are called prompts,
which are basically, it's like guiding the software
into creating a text or a written document for you.
And that guided entry is called a prompt.
Okay, you're prompting the AI bot to provide you
with the final textual document.
Okay, well, ChatGPT, if you look at their terms
and conditions, and if you do some digging,
which is what I do, so I'm bringing this to you
because instead of binging on Netflix,
apparently I read policies, go figure.
But so this is their own language.
Chat GPT, they specifically say that they gather information
from three sources, your account information,
the information you type in, that's your prompts,
and they pull data that comes from your browser,
like your IP address.
The third one I'm not worried about.
Everybody does that.
Everybody knows where you're located.
They all pull your IP address.
It's not a big deal.
That's always happening.
The second one is an issue.
And then the other part that Chat GPT does
is that they actually take your results as well.
So Chat GPT saves your prompts and they use your prompts
and they use the results of your prompts
to continue to train their model.
And it gets smarter and smarter to give you better results.
Now, OpenAI is the owner of Chat GPT.
They came out and said the following.
So all the way in the bottom it says,
we are not able to delete specific prompts
from your history.
Please don't share any sensitive information
in your conversations.
That is a quote from OpenAI.
If the company itself is telling you
don't share anything that's confidential with us,
then why would we share things that are confidential
except for the fact that we didn't know?
Now you know.
They're recording your transcripts, your prompts,
your results, all of that is being harvested.
They're using that to continue to learn.
And then on top of that,
that information now becomes available
to certain third parties,
like vendors, like affiliates,
people that are working with the company and others.
And so if somebody can actually type in a prompt
that's similar to yours and get a similar result,
and also gather information that you entered in as a prompt,
that's a big problem.
Especially as an example,
let's say you're a lawyer and you're typing in a scenario
that's associated with a client
to get a letter put together for a client.
Don't do that.
You need a confidential version of it.
But guess what?
There is a confidential version of it,
which I'm gonna tell you about in about three minutes.
No, five minutes.
All right.
This is one example of a massive, massive violation
of this confidentiality issue.
Samsung had three of their own engineers
provide certain confidential information from Samsung.
And those trade secrets were lost.
Okay.
What happened in one of the situations
is that they took source code
that was associated with cell phone,
they uploaded it
because the source code wasn't working properly.
They uploaded it into OpenAI and into Chad TPT,
and they asked it to fix the issue in the code.
And amazingly, it fixed the issue with the code.
But the problem is that they now took a trade secret
of Samsung associated with their cell phones,
and that trade secret is no longer a trade secret.
So they lost an incredibly valuable asset of the company
that nobody would have been able to decrypt
or get access to because it was on the backend.
Now it's gone.
So just be careful with this.
So what happened is that Samsung,
and this is just a list of some of the companies
that have banned the use of Chad TPT.
Okay.
Now Chad TPT is one example of AI software that's out there.
There are others that have been banned as well
by many of the companies out there.
Now, something that you'll notice
should jump out when you look at this list,
like somebody type in the chat,
what category of companies seems to be on this list a lot?
Banks, look at that.
Exactly.
Banks, banks, financial, exactly.
You guys nailed it.
You guys are on top of this.
Banks have seen just how people will enter
in their own confidential information.
And so they said, oh my gosh,
I'm providing a platform where my customers
might type in certain information or my employees
might type in information to come up with a quick email
for a client.
And now that becomes publicly available
and we can get sued for that.
Companies could literally be sued for this.
And so they've banned it.
All right.
Now in certain foreign countries, just so you know,
Chad TPT is outlawed.
Like I was just asked by a really well-known gentleman
to do a presentation to his whole network.
And he's brilliant.
Like he loves his people, cares about his people,
tends to them well.
I've actually heard of him before.
And in his country, well,
in Europe, there's multiple countries.
I guess in Europe, there are multiple countries
within Europe that have outlawed Chad TPT,
not allowed to use it.
because you just can't get your data back.
And so what are we supposed to do?
So here's the thing, as I'm training you,
what I don't wanna do is just say,
oh my gosh, look, scary guy in this closet.
Oh, scary guy in that closet.
Scary guy at the front door, scary guy at the back door.
All right, everybody, have a great weekend.
And I hope you have a great life.
That's not what I'm doing.
I wanna give you solutions.
So every time I give you something that is not good,
I'm gonna try to provide you with a solution, okay?
So always keep your ear open for the solution.
So one solution that's been provided,
which is pretty clever,
is that there are a few different software platforms
that have been created that provide a filter to your data
before your data gets to ChatGPT,
before it gets to MidJourney or to others.
So your prompts will,
the way the software works is that it connects to ChatGPT
and it acts literally as a portal into ChatGPT
or into some of these other AI software platforms.
So you type in your prompt
and then it looks at your prompt
and it pulls out anything that might be confidential.
And it lets you know, this is confidential information.
You know, are you sure you want to let this,
other people know this?
Are you sure you want to type this in a prompt?
That's pretty neat.
So this is one of them.
The company is called Private AI.
You might want to check it out.
It's pretty neat.
There's a number of other companies
that have come up to do this as well.
But wait, there's more.
This one is a big deal.
Now it's not 24 hours ago.
It's actually last week, it was 24 hours ago.
This actually, as of right now, it's about a week old.
This is what happened.
OpenAI, in case you guys haven't noticed,
has been sued multiple times.
They've been sued by Sarah Silverman.
They've been sued by others.
They've received letters from over 8,000 authors
demanding royalties for copyright infringement
because they scraped all this data,
which I'm going to talk to you about very shortly.
So OpenAI realized, oh my gosh,
like we're losing money here.
Like we've got problems.
So they created what's called ChatGPT Enterprise.
Enterprise, the way it's supposed to work,
it's supposed to be on a private server.
The information that you type in
is not supposed to go into their neural network.
It's not supposed to be,
the data is not supposed to be manipulated.
It's not supposed to be harvested, none of that.
It stays at your end.
They do calculations to give you results,
but they don't store it.
They don't store your prompt.
They don't store your results.
That's pretty cool.
That's actually pretty cool.
That's what a lot of people are looking for.
So keep your eyes open for ChatGPT Enterprise.
It's only about a week old.
For those of you that are actually
in the AI Legal Update Network,
as we go forward,
I'm going to give you updates on all these things.
So if you're seeing this for the first time,
but you're in a network, don't worry.
I'm going to let you know what's changed,
what are the new policies, what's Zoom doing now?
You're going to learn about all this stuff.
So don't freak out that you don't know
how to stay up to date, but we'll take care of all that.
All right, this is the language
from their terms and conditions.
It actually says that, here it is.
We do not train on your business data or conversations
and our models don't learn from your usage.
That's what you're looking for.
That's the language that you should be looking for
on any AI software where you're typing in prompts.
Make sure that they're not training on your data.
Make sure that they are not using your results,
not using your entered data.
If, now again, this is if you care.
Like if you're just doing this for fun,
and you're not using this for a marketing campaign,
you're doing it to come up with some cool images
to give to your family or something,
you may not care as much.
But if you're running a business,
actually, you know what?
How many people here are business owners?
Just by a show of hands,
that you're entrepreneurs or business owners?
There's a lot.
Yeah, there's a lot of business owners.
Okay, all of you business owners, this is vital.
This is what you're looking for.
This is the language, Tammy.
This is the language, Teresa, that you need.
You need this, look for it.
I don't care what platform you're looking at.
And if you're in our network,
when you go into the network, it's a private Facebook group,
type in the name of the program that you're using,
and I can look at it with you,
and we can try to figure out stuff.
Because in that 101, let me know beforehand
what you're using, and then in that 101,
I can tell you, is that safe?
Is it not?
Take advantage of that if you can.
So, all right, so let's move on.
Here's the big message.
If the AI software is free, you're the price.
Your data is the price.
What you're entering is the price.
Your results are the price.
Nothing's free in this arena,
in case you haven't figured it out.
So if it's free, whatever you're typing in
is likely going to be made available to others.
Keep that in mind, really important.
So your confidentiality,
if you're trying to obtain confidentiality
for what you're working on,
it's gonna be a paid version of something.
I haven't seen situations
where parties provide free confidentiality.
You have to pay for a higher level.
Now, these are the terms and conditions of mid-journey.
In the terms and conditions of mid-journey,
it tells you right here in blue,
by default, your images are publicly viewable
and remixable.
We just finished talking about text, like chat GPT.
And what you can do to make sure that
what you enter doesn't become publicly available, right?
So if it's confidential information,
you can use those filter programs
to make sure it doesn't get into the program,
or you can use something like OpenAI's chat GPT enterprise.
Those are different options.
Well, what about the image side?
Let's look at mid-journey.
Mid-journey came out,
and in their own terms and conditions,
they tell you the images that you enter
become publicly available.
The images that result are publicly available.
Now, when you're using mid-journey,
you use Discord, right?
It's basically a platform where you type in your prompt
to guide mid-journey to give you a result.
In the entering of that prompt,
your prompt is public.
The image that's produced is public.
If you upload anything, it's public.
Keep that in mind.
Why do you care?
If you have your two-year-old daughter, right,
and you wanna do a really nice Christmas,
like a really nice Christmas card,
and so you upload a picture of your two-year-old daughter,
and she looks all adorable,
and she's got this really cute little dress on,
and you're taking that as the front of your Christmas card,
and you create the background for your card,
and you print it, and you're so happy,
and three months later,
you see an advertising campaign for Pampers
where your daughter's on the front page,
and you go, what?
Well, hold it.
Wait, no, no, that doesn't make sense.
You made your image publicly available.
Just to be clear, that's what you did.
So you wanna understand how to keep this stuff confidential,
and there are ways to do that, which I'm going to show you.
But the first thing is that they actually tell you
that you don't main confidentiality with them.
What you can do is you can upgrade to stealth mode.
That's one thing you can do.
And so it does cost you a certain amount per month.
You can buy it as an annual package.
I actually have stealth mode.
I use that.
Just keep something in mind, though.
In Discord, as you're typing in your prompt,
you know how when you type in your prompt,
the results, like they give you like six different results,
three on the top, three on the bottom?
You know what I'm talking about, guys?
Does that make sense?
Yes, some people are using this.
Okay, those, you're still gonna,
even though you're using stealth mode,
which is supposed to keep your results confidential,
meaning not let your results go into their engine
and be utilized for other people,
it still is showing your results in Discord.
So as you're typing in your prompt,
you'll see these images just keep popping up
as other people are in a different room
and they're typing in the prompts,
you're seeing what they're producing popping up.
And so you can look at it and go,
man, that's a cool image, let me grab that one.
And now you modify somebody else's stuff.
So even in stealth mode, unfortunately,
your image will show up in Discord, okay?
So I already went over the main point.
If it's free, you're the price.
So there are certain tools
that I'm going to tell you about shortly
that are available to try to even increase
your level of confidentiality even more.
So we'll talk about that shortly.
So stage two, stage two,
that I talked about were lawsuits
against the AI software companies.
Here's proof, this is Sarah Silverman's lawsuit
against ChatTPT because of her books
were scraped during the process of creating the database
for OpenAI to build their database to give you results.
That process was called scraping.
So there's probably a lot of people
that don't know what scraping is.
So let me explain what scraping is, okay.
What happened was OpenAI took all of the data, all the images
is all the text from the internet.
Somebody might go, what?
How's that even possible?
They had engines to do this.
They grabbed everything all the way up into 2021.
Everything from their back is in their,
it's in their system, okay?
Now, unfortunately, when they did that,
they grabbed stuff from websites of individuals
that had their own information on there.
Or if you're selling a book on Amazon
and there's like a preview of the book
or there's a way to look at an e-book,
let's say that you have an e-book available on the internet.
If they had access to it, it's now in ChatGPT.
So if you had a book from 2019, it's in ChatGPT
if it was on the internet, all right?
Now, that should bother you
because you have certain legal rights under copyright law,
which we're gonna talk about.
So Sarah Silverman sued OpenAI.
Google got sued for the same reason, scraping.
On top of that, 8,000 authors sent letters
to the heads of OpenAI, Google, Microsoft,
and a number of other companies demanding royalties
for what was scraped, specifically their own content
that is being provided as a result of ChatGPT,
MidJourney, and other things.
So it's a pretty big, big deal.
And this is actually a statement from David Holtz.
I don't know if you guys know who this is.
This is the guy who founded MidJourney.
He actually came out and he admitted,
just think about this,
he admitted that his company did not receive the consent
of the hundreds of millions of images
used to train its AI image generator.
So no consent.
So artists, how many people here are artists?
If you're an artist, type in the chat the number one,
just so I can get an idea of how many artists are here.
I know Bethany, Viola, Helene.
Okay, we actually got a lot of artists too.
Okay, all right, this is important for you artists, okay?
You need to figure out how to make sure
that your content that's on the internet
does not become available to the public.
You have to figure that out.
That's really important, okay?
So there are certain things you can do.
You can use what's called glazing.
And I actually have somebody here who's an artist
actually sent me a private message.
And so I actually have a slide just for you artists
that I'll get to in the question and answer session.
But you've got to do things to make sure
that they can't harvest your images.
So you can use low resolution on your images.
You can do watermarking on your images
at a low resolution.
You can do what's called glazing
so that people can't scrape your information.
And there's other things
that I'll teach you guys about shortly, okay?
Okay, stage three.
Now we get to what I really want to cover here.
Hey, look at this line here.
Where'd that come from?
Do you see that?
Yeah.
Why'd you get artistic for the artist?
I don't know.
Let me see something really quick.
It's like right there.
How did that happen?
Very funny.
Look at that.
I can't get rid of it either.
Okay.
The AIs are not happy in Canva.
Well, actually, you know,
I wouldn't be surprised if they're not happy
because I'm actually telling you guys
how to bypass systems
and teaching you guys a lot
of really important business info.
But I'm kind of shocked that I can't get out of that.
Let me do one thing.
Hold on.
I'm going to stop sharing.
And let me just shut this down
and open it really fast
and see if I can get rid of it.
Oh, there it is.
It's gone.
Okay, here we go.
Now I can share it again.
That was interesting.
Share screen.
There we go.
All right.
Okay, it's gone.
Okay.
So now when it comes to you as an individual,
what I want to do,
I have mentored hundreds of people,
lawyers, business people.
I've handled global IP portfolio management
for large corporations, small corporations,
solo entrepreneurs for 25 years.
And I don't want you guys to run into the legal problems.
So I thought to myself,
how can I break this down
in an easy to digest manner?
And what I realized is that
I've got to make sure you understand
copyrights and trademarks.
That's the first part.
If you can understand copyrights and trademarks,
then chances are higher
that you can minimize the chances
that you will be sued in this third.
stage. So that what I'm going to do for the next few minutes is teach you at a very very top level.
Now for all of you that are taking the package, that 995 package, you're going to be in a five-day
training where you're going to learn this in more detail and you'll be able to ask questions and
engage. It's way more detailed. This is just really quick so that you have a basic understanding
so that you'll understand what I'm going to explain shortly when it comes to AI issues.
So and again this is not legal advice.
All of you here are going to receive this free resource.
You're going to get an email with an attachment. This is the attachment. Anything that you create
should fall onto this chart somehow. So all you do is let's say that you're doing paintings.
You look up paintings, you look up they're protectable by copyrights. Let's say you're
doing something like software. If you're doing software, the computer code is protectable under
copyrights and on the software side you've also got that process associated with it may be
protectable under patents. So you should be able to look up logos, books, all sorts of stuff and
see what area of technology pertains or what area of protection pertains to what you created.
So that's just a free gift for you. You don't need to enter any program to get that. We're
just giving that to you. So now let me talk about trademarks real quick. One minute briefer.
Trademark is an identification of a source of goods whether or not you know or understand
who the source of goods is. As an example, one example I love to give is DayQuil.
Everybody kind of knows how it works. They understand it's good for codes. It's good
during the day. It only costs a certain amount of money. I can get it at CVS,
Rite Aid, Eckhart or all sorts of different places. You know all that but most people don't
know who actually makes it. Most people don't care who makes it. But the name DayQuil is enough for
you to identify that's a product I want to buy. That's how trademarks work. Your logos, your
word marks, your slogans. So Nike is a trademark. The Nike swoosh is a design. That's a logo.
Just do it. That's a slogan. So those are what trademarks are. Trademarks give you the right
to market with that trademark a good or service and not have other people use that same trademark.
So you get to make sure that there's no likelihood of confusion in the public side.
So I can't create a shoe company and use the Nike swoosh because there'll be a confusion
in the public's eye and therefore Nike could sue me for using their trademark. That's how
trademarks work. Why are trademarks important? When we talk about mid-journey you're going to
understand. So logos, word marks, slogans. Those are all covered by trademarks. There are other
things covered by trademarks but we don't need to go into that here. You guys can learn about
that stuff separately. Copyrights. Copyrights are different. The way copyrights work is there
needs to be some kind of original work of authorship. It needs to be fixed in some
kind of tangible means. Ray can you see who is? Yeah I'm working on it. Nobody should have the
right to unmute. There should be some kind of original work meaning they're the original
creator. It needs to be fixed. It can't be in your mind. It needs to be either recorded or drawn
or a digital image of it created. It needs to be some kind of authorship that is
human. It can't be AI. Now I know a lot of people are getting mad right now. We're going to address
that. I promise you we're going to address that in a second. I'm going to explain to you how you may
be able to bypass the system. I know there's a number of people here just for that. I'm
going to explain some things that may help you out if using AI. How you may be able to obtain
legal rights under copyright. It's a transition that's happening. It hasn't been acknowledged
yet at the copyright office. The copyright owner gets to reproduce it, make copies of it,
display it. These are all kinds of rights that you get as the copyright owner.
Things that can be copyright are books, musical works, pictures, photographs.
All these things are protectable under copyright. When you're using mid-journey, when you're using
chat GPT, the text that's coming out, people are asking, can I own under copyright law what's
coming out? We're going to address that. People are asking the images that come out of mid-journey.
Can I own a copyright on that as well? We're going to address that as well.
Those are things that typically would fall under copyright law, but the issue is that
the copyright office is not acknowledging that yet. I'm going to show you how to have an influence
on that. Again, the copyright owner and only the copyright owner. This slide here is so
important right here. You know what I'm going to do is, should I give them the slides?
You know your generous self is always going to give them everything.
And just so you guys know, I did drop that IP roadmap. It's already dropped in the chat for you,
the one that Peter said we'd email out. So if you guys would like it, it's in the chat and it's also
in our Facebook group. If you go on our IP workshops, it'll be there in the feed as well.
So if you guys haven't figured out, Ray actually keeps everything running. I just kind of show up.
All right. So what I'm going to do is for the people that actually do the one-on-one,
I'll give you the slides at no cost. There's like 40 something of them.
You'll be able to refer to that. Okay. All right. So with that,
it just hit my heart. Anybody who takes any one of the offers, I'm going to give you the slides.
I literally just said it and then I felt so bad about it. So if you take the $95 offer or you take
that $995 offer, I'll give you the slides. Okay. Move on. All right. These are the legal rights
that you're going to get. You're going to get the right to reproduce them, to create what are
called derivatives. That word. Type in the chat derivatives, because I got to make sure you
understand. Derivatives. D-E-R-I-V-A-T-I-V-E. Type it in the chat. Understand this word here
can be the difference between you getting sued or not getting sued. Derivatives, derivatives,
derivatives. Okay. The only one who has a legal right to a derivative, the only one
is the copyright owner. What is a derivative? A derivative is a slight modification to the
original work. Some of you are understanding why this word is important now, because a number of
you emailed me directly at support at elite-challenges.com and said, hey, I got a question.
Can I take somebody else's work, do a slight modification and get a copyright on it?
This word derivative is going to be important. But separate from that, can I take my own work,
modify it in OpenAI or modify it in MidJourney, get the result and own a copyright from that?
That word derivative is going to become important. I'll explain all this to you very shortly.
It's a slight modification in an original work. The right to display, the right to distribute,
all those rights are only owned by the copyright owner. Thank you all of you that are partaking in
typing in derivatives. You're going to realize later when you see other people doing things
and the word just pops in your mind, you're going to understand why I made you do that.
All right, now we dig in. I gave you the legal basis. You understand at a top level, and I see
some of you guys are really, really focused. This is awesome. We're digging into your real-life
examples now. I gave you the basics of trademarks like names, slogans, logos, identify a source of
goods or services. Got it. Copyrights, there needs to be an author, it needs to be fixed,
it needs to be something that is original. Got it. The legal rights associated with that,
to copy them, to reproduce them, to create derivatives and other things. Got it.
Those are two categories. IP issues are huge when it comes to AI software platforms. It's huge. It's
a very big issue. I'm going to show you why. I'm only going to cover trademarks and copyrights.
I'm not going to go into patents. I don't want you guys to have your brains explode
as I'm doing this. I'm just going to cover trademarks and copyrights. If you want to learn
more when you're in the network, we'll go into a lot more detail there. Now, I'm going to break down
this legal issue associated with AI software into three categories. The first one is,
what goes into the AI software platform? The second one is, what comes out of the AI software
platform? The third one is ownership. Can I own? Whatever is being produced, can I own it? What
goes in, what comes out, can I own it? Those are the three main categories. Now, with that being
said, we're going to start with what goes in. I'm going to take this slow to make sure everybody
understands this. First and foremost, we already talked about confidential information.
Do not enter confidential information. If you are working as a
a marketing specialist and you're meeting with your clients,
you want to get in writing, do yourself a favor,
I'm a litigator, I'm telling you,
do yourself a favor and get it in writing
as the party who is doing the marketing work for them,
get permission from them to use AI.
Like let them know beforehand, don't make it a surprise.
Because I had, I don't wanna,
I can't give personal information on certain clients,
but I've seen situations where clients were just irate
and wanted to literally go after those companies
by hiring a lawyer.
Because they found out that their proprietary stuff
was getting out to the public.
And so this is a real life situation,
don't upload anything confidential, all right?
If that AI software platform
is gonna make it available to others.
And do yourself a favor and assume that it will
unless you hear something otherwise.
And you double check it.
And just for your own knowledge,
everything that I'm saying here,
like I've already told you, this is not legal advice,
but when I talk about things like an AI business policy
and what you should have in there,
double check with your lawyers,
like you all have lawyers or you should have lawyers,
double check with them.
The problem though is that they're not doing something free
and training you for two hours,
they're gonna charge you to review it,
but hopefully you can streamline what you bring to them.
You can potentially lose trade secrets.
Don't worry about the patent rights thing,
I don't think we have patent attorneys here.
Actually you might, David Kim might be here right now,
one of my buddies.
We can talk about patent law stuff separate.
There could be a violation of HIPAA rules, privacy rules,
just be careful not to do that.
Secondarily, this is where it gets interesting.
I have paintings, I have original paintings
on that wall, that wall, that wall.
I love like really prophetic art.
Like I love that kind of thing that just inspires you,
you look at it and it just speaks volumes.
So I have the originals of certain works.
What I cannot do is I can't take my cell phone here,
go and look at that image, take a picture of it,
now upload it into MidJourney and then use Discord
and say, okay, take the lion in there
and change the color of the lion's eyes to be blue
and take this thing here and change this background
to be the, that's called copyright infringement.
The only one who has the legal right
to modify an original work is the copyright owner.
Okay, so my taking a copy using my camera
is taking a copy of an original work,
that's copyright infringement.
So be careful, don't do that.
Make sure you get permission
of the original copyright owners before you do that.
And then separate from that,
if the copyright's expired, right,
then you can take like the Mona Lisa
and mock it up and do whatever you want,
the copyright's over, right?
So look for older works where the copyright is expired
and then you could do whatever you want with it,
that's not a big deal.
But just be careful again,
don't upload other people's logos,
don't upload their books,
don't upload like other people's images
because that modification that's being done,
there's two issues.
Number one, you're making a copy,
that's copyright infringement.
Number two, the modification that's being done
is likely gonna be considered a derivative.
And who is the only one has legal rights to the derivative?
The copyright owner, exactly.
So you do not wanna be doing that
because that can come back and really bite you, okay?
That would be copyright infringement
or it could be trademark infringement
if you're doing that with a logo, okay?
Okay, now here's another thing to kind of be careful of.
We're gonna look at what comes out
and this is more detailed.
What comes in is kind of more simplistic.
You wanna consider things like,
is the original work copyrighted or trademarked?
I think everybody understands that
that's not that difficult to comprehend.
The other side though, what comes out is more complicated.
So I'm gonna take my time and explain this to you.
The result of what comes out,
you may in fact see in the terms and conditions
for one of those AI software platforms,
that it says they own the legal rights to what you create
and they're giving you a license to use that.
Can I just tell you that that does not mean
that you're not going to be sued for using that result?
It's your responsibility to do a trademark search,
if it's a logo, to do a copyright search.
So just make sure that what you're getting is safe to use.
If you're working within a company
and you're coming up with a new advertising campaign
and you go and you use like Logo AI,
which I'm gonna demonstrate to all of you.
Logo AI is one of the examples I did.
I did a live demonstration of Logo AI.
Typed in a certain word, came out with a logo.
I did a live trademark search
on the United States Patent and Trademark Office website,
which all of you are going to learn
that are in the Protector Idea Challenge.
You're all getting a free ticket to that
if you take either one of those packages.
I do a live training on how to do a trademark search.
When you do that, when I did that trademark search,
that exact logo came up.
Like, I'm not exaggerating.
Like what I was told by Logo AI,
I could use now, literally with somebody else's logo.
If I had used that for the services
that I was going to use it for,
I could have been sued for trademark infringement.
So I'm letting you know this beforehand.
If you're using these resources to create a logo for you,
which they're great for, they do great designs.
That's phenomenal.
You may not be able to own a copyright
to that finalized image
because AI is creating the image, not you.
But what you may be able to do is get a trademark on it.
Like if you just start using it over and over,
it becomes an identification of a source of goods
for you and your company.
Even though you can't get a copyright,
you might be able to use it as an identification
of a source of goods and get a trademark.
So, but just remember that I warned you,
get a trademark search done.
These are the terms and conditions of Logo AI.
This is literally in on their site.
And if you look at the bottom here, it says,
furthermore, the user acknowledges
that we have no obligation or duty
to perform trademark, copyright or service mark searches.
They're telling you this.
Now, how many people here make a habit
of reading terms and conditions?
Just be honest.
Yeah, right, exactly.
I should be like one of the few people
that's actually raising.
All right, Antonia and I are gonna like hang out
and read terms and conditions
while everybody else is watching Netflix, okay?
So it's not often done, okay?
But they came out and just told you,
you need to do your own trademark search.
The thing that frustrated me though,
is when you look at the top here,
it says all generated logos are protected by copyright laws.
Now, think about that for a second.
They said, hey, you use our platform.
Yeah, everything that we produce is protected
by us under copyright law.
Oh, and you know that thing
that you're getting permission from us to use,
where we have legal rights under copyright law,
you might actually be sued for using that
because it actually belongs to somebody else.
I mean, does that make sense to anybody?
I'm just wondering, because it doesn't make sense to me.
So you've got to be careful about these things.
Just make sure you look at the terms and conditions.
All right?
The other thing you want to do is figure out
what is the source of the data or images that are rendered?
Again, what is the source?
When it comes to OpenAI's Chat GPT, that was scraped.
That means what I'm getting out of that
may actually be committing copyright infringement.
When I asked it to create the next chapter
of such and such book,
it's taking the content it already has on that book,
and it's producing a result.
And so now that result has got a lot of the content
from the original book within it,
which may fall into copyright infringement.
It's possible that that can happen.
So just be careful.
Please be careful.
I don't want anybody getting in a situation
where you have to call me up
to get you out of a litigation issue
or to get you out of a cease and desist.
That's not fun.
So that's why you're doing this free training.
So what you want to do instead is,
if this is something really important to your business,
like let's say you're creating logos or images
for marketing purposes for your business,
and this is going to be part of a big marketing campaign.
There are AI software platforms
that are out there right now,
and they only provide you with results
from an internal database
that includes open source images or licensed images.
One example is Adobe Firefly.
The beauty of that is that it's their stuff,
and they're giving you a license to use their stuff.
So they're doing modifications to things,
they're tweaking things,
and you can go in and say,
Chase, throw a boat in right in the water
next to the house,
approximately two inches to the right of it.
Like you could do all this really cool stuff,
and the images that you're getting, they own.
So you can't.
The chances of you getting sued for copyright infringement
or trademark infringement for something
that they legally own is very, very slim.
That's what you wanna look for.
And there are more companies that are doing that now.
It's becoming more prevalent.
So look for things like that.
Okay.
Now, we're gonna get, all right.
So anybody who has any questions so far,
make sure you type them in the chat
before we get into ownership.
I wanna make sure you guys
are getting your questions in there
because I'm gonna have, like I said,
a half hour question and answer session
where I'm gonna go into a lot, a lot, a lot of detail.
So make sure you type it in there
so that my team can grab it and paste it
into that Google Doc and I can see them.
All right.
So now for the interesting part,
and this is where people usually get emotional.
So the good part is I've got good news for everybody
as I go through this.
This is ownership.
Can you own what's produced from your own prompts?
Can you own what's produced as an image or text
or audio or video?
Like, can you own the results?
So let's talk about this.
Can you obtain a copyright?
As of right now, as of, you know, a few weeks ago,
the federal district court in DC
came out with a decision just confirming
that if AI is utilized to create an image
that you can actually obtain a copyright for that.
The Copyright Office said that a long time ago.
That's not new.
We've known that for a very long time.
So, and all of you that are in the Protector Idea Challenge,
you're gonna learn a lot more about this.
So these kinds of issues won't be surprises to you.
Like, my people knew about this ages ago,
but there are certain requirements for copyright.
I need to explain to you why it is
that you can't obtain legal rights under copyright law.
And then I'm gonna explain to you
what's going to change very soon.
And I have it on specific authority
within the Copyright Office and within other people,
within other entities that are working directly
with them as well.
And I'm working directly with them as well
to get you the latest information on this.
It's going to change.
And I'd say within six months, it's going to change, okay?
So copyright requires, number one,
there needs to be some kind of authorship,
needs to be a human being that's the author,
needs to be original,
which means you can't just copy somebody else's stuff
and it has to be fixed, right?
Can't just be in your mind.
I already told you Copyright Office
is not acknowledging ownership.
Now let's talk about this in more detail.
Number one, the authorship.
When it comes to authorship,
the Copyright Office says it needs to be a human author.
Now, here's what's interesting.
The Copyright Office has also come out
and said that if you take a picture with your cell phone,
let's say April's here, April Parsons.
Yup, April.
Hi, April.
All right, so I know April.
April is pretty amazing with NFTs
and all sorts of like digital art kind of work.
So if April takes her cell phone,
she turns it on and she goes, click,
takes a picture of something
that is not somebody else's work.
That image, she can take that image
and submit it to the Copyright Office
and the Copyright Office will grant her a copyright.
Just to be clear, that digital image.
And just look, I've got my camera on right now, right?
It's on.
If I just do this, look, click.
I just, that's all I did.
I took a random picture.
I didn't figure out the lighting.
I didn't figure out like the shading.
I didn't figure out the subject matter.
I can get a copyright on that.
The Copyright Office has acknowledged
that Peter Nieves can get a copyright on that.
However, you can type a prompt that is so verbose
that most people would fall asleep just trying to read it.
And the Copyright Office has said
that does not warrant a copyright.
Those two, and the reason why
is because it's made by a machine.
Look, a camera is a machine.
I mean, look, I know because I'm an electrical engineer
and my background is electrical engineering.
I'm an IP attorney.
I'm an electrical engineer.
So I understand how the ASICs work.
I understand how the functionality works
in here in the software.
So that's a machine.
I took a picture with a machine.
I get a copyright on it.
You use software to type in a prompt
and you're remarkably verbose,
getting to the point of talking about hex numbers
and exactly where things are aligned
and all sorts of details.
And that is not being acknowledged yet
for legal rights by the Copyright Office.
The Copyright Office saw that there's a problem with that.
Enough.
People complained.
And there have been thousands upon thousands upon thousands
of new copyright applications that have been filed
for things that are created in Midjourney,
that are created in ChatGPT, and other things
that the Copyright Office said,
whoa, whoa, what's going on here?
We don't know how to deal with this.
Like, this is new.
This is new to us.
What do we do?
Now, to try to figure this out,
what we can do as a Copyright Office is,
we can just say what the law already says.
Law says, human has to create it.
Okay, that's gonna be our temporary, like, statement.
You know, that's our temporary statement
to calm you guys down for a little while,
while we try to figure this out in the back end, okay?
Now, to the Copyright Office's defense,
just so you guys know, there is a massive electrical storm
going on right over me, so if this goes zap,
I'll be back, all right?
I'll be back, okay?
That's my voice AI simulation.
So, if I disappear, Ray, come up with something to do,
all right, I'll be back, I'll be back.
I'm gonna do a silly dance back here,
because it's all like, gosh.
That'll work, that'll work, it'll be entertaining.
For the whole minute, it'll take the reef,
but God permitting, that doesn't happen.
And I'll say some dad jokes over here in case it happens.
Nice. He got you covered, Peter.
Yeah, we wanna try to keep the people here.
We wanna keep the people here, okay, there we go.
All right, so, here are examples
where the Copyright Office came out and said,
no, you can't get legal rights to what's created.
A monkey, and guys, I'm not making this up.
Oh, there it goes.
Whoa, am I back?
Can you guys see me?
We can still hear you, you're here.
My screen went blank, can you see me as well?
I can see you and your slides.
All right, it's back up, okay, good.
Like, it just went, bam!
All right, go away.
I got things to do, all right.
So, a monkey found a camera, took a picture.
The camera was recovered, and this is the actual picture.
Okay, that's the picture by the monkey.
The camera owner went live with this
and let everybody know about this
and it's submitted for a copyright.
And the Copyright Office said, no,
you can't obtain a legal right to this
even though it was your camera
because a monkey took the picture.
The monkey was upset, the camera owner was upset,
but us lawyers are actually, it's humorous,
so it was kind of fun.
On the painting side,
an elephant actually created these paintings.
They tried to submit for a copyright on it
because people were basically making copies
of the painting that was done by the elephant
and the original owner of the elephant
wanted to have to make money on it.
But the Copyright Office said,
no, it was created by an elephant,
so therefore you can't get a copyright.
So, just to drive this home,
why do you care about getting a copyright?
Because then you're the only one who can make a copy.
You're the only one who can make a modification, only you.
It's 100% you.
And so, for that reason, people wanna own the copyright.
So, Copyright Office said no to the monkey,
said no to the painting made by the elephant.
And one other example, Christina Cashtenova,
who I've touched base with on Instagram,
she actually submitted for a copyright
on her comic book, Zarya the Dawn.
And in that comic book,
she used mid-journey to create the images,
but she actually came up with the text.
So, the Copyright Office said no to the images,
but said yes to the text.
So, she has a copyright on a portion
of the actual, and the monkey thinks that's kind of funny.
So, you know.
So, let me kind of just break down
this Zarya the Dawn portion here.
And all of you guys, like I said, that partake,
you're gonna get these slides
so you can read this in more detail.
But the Copyright Office came out and said,
this is their language under D.
It was stated that entering prompts into the system
may have an influence,
but they don't determine a concrete outcome.
Look, this is where I get to go on a little statement here.
I know prompt engineers.
I've written very detailed prompts.
There is a point where a prompt goes from the point of,
give me a frog wearing a hat,
to give me the following,
and then literally writing five paragraphs worth of details
to get the perfect frog and the perfect background
and the perfect environment.
I believe those individuals,
those prompt engineers become the artists.
And in my opinion, what's going to happen,
and I believe this is going to happen within six months,
I believe that the Copyright Office is going to acknowledge
that there is a point where a prompt is so detailed.
that the prompt engineer truly does all of a sudden
become the copyright owner.
When that happens, when that day happens,
it's gonna hit the media like wildfire.
Whoever those prompt engineers are,
they're gonna name how much money they wanna make.
Because anybody who has those prompt engineers
working for them, those prompt engineers become like,
literally like the goose that's laying the golden egg,
quite frankly, because you can have them writing prompts
and you just take the results and file copyrights on them.
And now the portfolio of your company
grows and grows and grows.
And you can sell, you can create licenses to the results
and sell them out and just create an entity
that makes tons of money.
And then the audio video, the audio visual enterprise
is gonna tap in to those prompt engineers as well
because they're creating like virtual reality things.
And there's a whole virtual reality experience
that is being provided by the headsets.
So those companies are gonna hire
all of these prompt engineers to create virtual worlds
where people can be immersed in those things like forever,
which I'm not all for quite frankly.
But in any case, the point is,
the prompt engineers are gonna make tons of money.
And I think that's gonna happen within six months, okay?
Okay.
This is actually the court case.
It was Stephen Thayer versus Shira,
but Shira actually is an employee of the Copyright Office.
So what he did was he actually filed a lawsuit
against the Copyright Office
because the Copyright Office didn't acknowledge
that his image, which was created using his own AI,
generated his own AI software.
The Copyright Office didn't acknowledge
that he can get a copyright for it.
So he sued the Copyright Office.
And the decision by Judge Howell was actually,
yeah, the decision's right,
because it wasn't a remarkably verbose prompt
or anything like that.
It was something that was pretty cursory.
The result is that the Copyright Office was confirmed
by the Federal District Court.
And so that's the current state of the law.
Again, I believe this is gonna start moving.
It's gonna start transforming, okay?
There are two other requirements.
I'm not gonna spend a lot of time on this,
this originality requirement.
So if you're creating a work on mid-journey,
you have to actually have,
let's say you take your own image
and you throw it into mid-journey,
and you tweak and you modify it.
Your own image must be your own original image
for you to have a copyright on that.
Now, the result that's coming out of mid-journey,
the question that I've gotten no less than 30 times,
30?
All right, I'll say, yeah, 30.
No less than probably 30 times
can I take my own stuff, put it in mid-journey,
get a modification to that,
and then file a copyright application on that?
For now, the answer is no.
Let me explain.
Because there's a way around this.
If it's a derivative,
a derivative is a modification of original work.
If you take the original work
and you file a copyright application on the original work,
you'll get a copyright for the original work.
That slight modification is a legal right
that's associated with the original work.
So let's say I have,
do I have a picture or something?
Here.
This is, here's an image right there.
There's a picture.
It's like some,
this is like clay.
It's really cool.
It doesn't matter what it does,
but there's a picture on it.
And that is a pyramid on it.
So let's say I upload my picture
and I say, change the background
and put a spaceship in there,
you know, and then put a person in the front screaming.
Right?
That's what I want.
And I take that image there
and I want to file a copyright for that.
I can't get that because the modification was done by AI.
The original work though, I own the copyright for.
So therefore, for now,
and I say only just for now,
just realize that since I own the original work
and this is a modification that was done in mid-journey,
if I go out there and I use that modification,
chances are on the lower side
that there'll be like a copyright infringement issue
because it's my own original work
that was slightly modified,
but I can't file copyright for my modification.
But since I own the original work,
anybody who copies my modification
would be committing copyright infringement
on my original copyright.
Does that make sense?
All right, look,
if that didn't make sense to anybody,
type a two in the chat
because what I just went through was like gold
and at the same time, it's kind of complicated.
All right, I see a two there.
I'm going to go through this one more time, okay?
Um, yeah, there we go.
There are the twos.
Be honest guys, like I'm doing this for you
in case you guys haven't figured this out.
And I do this for a living.
Like I love what I do.
So I want to try to simplify this as much as possible
so it makes sense.
Okay.
You have your own image.
In, in, thank you, Jen.
Yeah, definitely repeat it.
Totally with you.
All right, so you have your own image.
You upload your own image into MidJourney.
Assume that your own image is owned under copyright law.
Okay.
Assume that the original image is owned under copyright law.
So then, um, hold on one second.
I'm seeing stuff going on in chat.
Hey, Ray, just watch the chat.
If stuff starts to get off, just delete it.
Sure, I'm working my way down.
Yeah, thanks.
Andy, if you could do that too, I appreciate that.
I just want to stay, make sure we're on point.
And we're doing good here.
Okay.
All right, cool.
All right, so if I have my own image
and I own a copyright for it,
the first thing I do is I file for a copyright.
I own that copyright.
I got a federal registration for it.
In, in the separate training
in the Protector Idea Challenge,
what you're going to learn in there is
that you actually don't have to file to own a copyright.
You actually own legal rights.
Like, you'll learn stuff in there that'll blow your mind.
But anyways, just so you understand,
if you actually own the copyright on the original image
and you upload it into MidJourney
and you modify that original image
and that modification is considered to be a derivative,
meaning a slight modification of the original image,
the legal right that I explained to you earlier
associated with a copyright is the right to modify.
The right to create what?
Somebody type in the chat.
The right to create what?
I made you guys all type it in for a reason.
The right to create a derivative.
Yes, thank you, Melanie.
Thank you.
Thank you, Karen.
Thank you, Lori.
Thank you, Jen.
So it's the right to create a derivative.
The only one who has the right to create a derivative
is the original copyright owner.
So for that reason, when I upload my own image,
of course, I'm keeping in mind,
oh my gosh, I might lose rights.
Other people might grab it, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
But let's assume for conversation's sake,
I don't care about other people taking the results.
So I upload my own image.
I get a slight modification.
I use that in my marketing campaign.
Somebody copies that slight modification.
If I own the copyright on the original work,
that slight modification is a violation of my copyright
on the original work.
Got it?
So I own this image.
I upload this image and I say something as simple as,
change the color of the background.
And so now instead of red here, it's blue.
It's like a light blue, okay?
And I take that light blue image
and I use that in my own marketing campaign.
Somebody else sees that light blue image and they copy it.
I send them a cease and desist letter saying,
hey, that's a violation of my original copyright.
My original copyright is on this right here.
And that blue background is considered a derivative.
The only one who has a legal right to a derivative work is,
yes, it is.
It is calcium bentonite clay.
It is.
I love this stuff.
This stuff is great.
So the only one who has the right to this
is the original copyright owner.
So this is why you owning your copyrights
is so important, okay?
So finally, again, take your own image,
upload it, slight modification.
Somebody copies that slight modification.
If it's considered a derivative,
it's an infringement of your original work.
You can send them a cease and desist letter saying,
hey, that's an infringement of my original work.
That's a derivative.
Only I have the legal right to that.
That's how copyrights work effectively, all right?
Okay, let's move forward to the next slide here.
I wanna touch base on this.
We're gonna take probably 10 more minutes
and then I'll go into the questions and answering.
Is this helping you guys?
Yes, yes.
All right, cool.
I just wanna make sure this is helping you guys
because I spent a lot of time putting this together,
like years of knowledge to make sure that it's streamlined
and hopefully digestible.
So I'm glad you guys, all right, cool.
Awesome, thank you, Dan.
I appreciate that.
That means a lot, thank you.
All right, let me explain to you something else.
Thank you, Melanie, I appreciate that.
This is really important to understand.
There are terms and conditions
for all these AI software platforms, okay?
There are terms and conditions
for all these software platforms.
You may be giving away legal rights
to something under contract law and not even know it.
What do I mean by that?
Some of the platforms tell you
that whatever the result.
is of using their software, you can only use that result
in a commercial sense, meaning in business,
if you pay them a certain amount of money, okay?
So it's called a commercial license.
So look at the terms and conditions.
And again, if you're in our network,
for those of you that are going into that 995 thing,
which is amazing, we're going to be talking
about a lot of these terms and conditions.
So, you know, this doesn't make sense.
And just keep in mind that these terms
and conditions are changing like fast.
As an example, Zoom, as I mentioned to you,
they went into using AI to analyze the videos
that are being utilized to give you summaries.
And then all of a sudden people complained
and they changed the terms and conditions.
So, you know, these things are changing like weekly.
So you want to stay on top of this.
But the point of the matter is,
if you're using these AI platforms,
look to see if there's any restrictions
on how you can use the results.
If it tells you that you cannot use,
the term that you're looking for,
the language that you're looking for,
is the words commercial use, all right?
So you can even just pull up the terms and conditions
and just do a search for the word commercial.
That will actually help you out.
So when you search for the word commercial,
you'll likely come to the terms and conditions
that talk about how you can use the results
for commercial purposes.
What commercial purposes means is like for marketing,
for business, to obtain sales.
All those things are commercial purposes.
Internal purposes are not commercial purposes.
Like if you're using this to send a card to your daughter,
that's not a commercial purpose.
Business purposes are more commercial purposes.
So what you want to do is look at the terms and conditions
in these agreements.
If it tells you that you need to pay that monthly fee
to use the results for commercial purposes,
you need to know that you got locked
under a contractual obligation to them.
Now, some of these are really tricky.
Some of them actually tell you that you have a legal right,
you have a commercial right to use the result
only as long as you are paying them for the license.
Once you stop paying them for the license,
the commercial license is over.
So just look at the terms and conditions
and see what you're agreeing to under contract law.
Okay, that's just really important.
I don't want anybody getting into trouble in that area.
Okay.
Now, I'm gonna take one minute here
to talk about something I think is really helpful.
Everybody here, if you have your own business,
if you work for another business,
you should have an AI business plan.
If you're running a business right now,
or you're part of a business
that does not have an AI business plan at this point,
you guys are way behind the eight ball.
There are insurance policies
that are looking for these things at this point.
There are clients that are looking
for these things at this point.
There are, I mean, these are things
that even law firms are starting to get considered
by their insurance carriers to see,
do you guys have an AI business policy?
This is such a big deal.
As a result of the last workshop,
you drafted one.
Colin, that's awesome, well done.
I'm glad you did that, yeah.
So this AI business policy is vital.
It should make a reference to what is AI generative software
so people understand what it is,
because a lot of people don't know what it is.
A lot of people are using ChatGPT, MidJourney,
and a lot of these other programs
thinking it's just some stationary software on their PC,
when it's not.
So we gotta make sure that they're aware of what it is.
The next thing, it should actually give guidelines
onto what they can do with it, what they can't do with it.
You should mention what are some examples of them,
make sure that this is non-exclusive.
And there's a number of other things
that are really, really, really important,
especially if you're dealing with proprietary information.
This here, and again, if you guys are in either package,
you're getting the slides.
If you're taking photocopies of this,
that's a copyright infringement issue, don't do it.
So these are different things that you should have
in your policy.
I created a slide just for this, okay?
Because I don't want you guys running into problems.
So I do create AI business policies.
If you need one, you can talk to me,
but I'm not here to sell you stuff like that.
That's not what's going on.
So make sure you have one.
Okay.
And that is, that is what they say.
But I'm now gonna jump into a question and answer session,
but let me, what I did was I went through
50 something questions.
It's like, I went through a ton of questions.
I went through transcripts from the last one I went through.
I went through emails that people sent me, DMs,
and others.
And so I came up with,
first thing I'm gonna do is refer to six questions
that were repeated multiple, multiple times, okay?
And Ray, drop the link for, again, for the,
please, for both packages,
just so that they have it.
Like people are asking about the slides.
You're getting it in there, okay?
You're gonna get the slides in the packages, okay?
And the low package is 95 bucks.
Everybody can afford that.
So I did that intentionally so everybody can afford it.
All right, so I'm gonna go through a few questions
from specific people who I'm going to embarrass
by naming them.
And if they're here,
they're more than welcome to raise their digital hands
so that they can ask the follow-up questions that they have.
But I'm gonna answer the questions
because I had multiple people asking similar questions.
So this one's from Katina Stapleton.
So her question, let me move this thing out of the way
so it's not there.
There we go.
So her question is,
for those of us who do other forms of art,
what are the rules if we use AI to transform our art?
You see that language, transform?
Somebody type in the chat,
what's the word that comes immediately
when I said transform our art?
Thank you.
Yes, derivative, derivative, derivative.
Yes, Vicky.
Yes, Donna.
Yes, Cheryl.
Exactly.
Gosh, that gives me goosebumps.
When I see you guys get it,
I know you're not gonna get in trouble.
I love that.
So the first part is,
what are the rules if we use AI to transform our art?
And then is the new art considered,
still considered AI generated for copyright purposes?
For example, I use Midjourney to transform
an eggshell mosaic, and that's the work there.
I made into an image of a street mosaic,
which looks absolutely amazing, by the way, Katina.
That looks great.
I mean, that's a beautiful image.
That's really impressive.
And so now, is Katina here?
If she is, she could raise her hand.
She may not have made it live, but she is, yes.
I'm gonna unmute her.
Unmute.
How are you?
Hello, I'm good.
Great, I love your question.
And you are extremely talented, by the way.
Well done.
And so what I wanted to do was address this
in multiple layers.
So first part is we've talked about derivatives.
If you take your original work,
you upload your original work,
and you do the modification,
this is a perfect example of a modification.
And this was posted in the Facebook group as well,
so people can see it there.
If you're not in the Facebook group,
go in the Facebook group.
So you can get to know other people,
and network, and do stuff like that.
I love when people become successful by networking.
All right, so, since this is a derivative,
the modification, anything that's new in the modification
is created by AI.
So therefore, you can't own any of the new modification.
You can own the original work,
and since you already own the original copyright
in the original work,
the beauty of it is if somebody grabbed this image
and ran with this image,
it includes your original copyrighted work,
and for that reason, it would be copyright infringement.
Something that's very important to understand.
Does that make sense?
It does.
The question I had has to do with the mid-journey term,
so this is what I'm stuck on.
I uploaded my image to do this,
and the terms say that anything you upload
can be used by mid-journey.
And by anyone who uses mid-journey.
And so my question's really specific.
By uploading it, have I actually given up my copyright
since I applied to the terms that you're using?
That's a really good question.
So here's the thing.
If you own a copyright and you upload something,
you don't lose your copyright.
Nobody's losing copyrights by uploading stuff.
You still own your copyright.
The problem is that now other people see it
and other people can use it.
I can type in the right prompt to actually come up with
a sunflower that has this remarkable details here
that's in a tile fashion and different colors on different,
and I may come up with yours as a result.
And so the issue is that other people
will be using my work.
Now, here's where I think the law is going to develop
and where it's gonna get really, really messy.
This is where I honestly,
this is gonna be extremely messy.
What if Katina uploads her image?
Somebody else grabs the image, starts using it.
They get sued by Katina.
I'm not saying that that's gonna happen,
but it becomes.
cover of their book. The book's a top seller. They're making hundreds of thousands of dollars
and Katina's like, that's my image. That's my picture. Hello? Give me a royalty or something.
And so she reaches out to the other parties and cease and desist, blah, blah, blah, blah,
back and forth. The defense that this party is going to use is, hey, I just used chat TPT. I
use the results. That's not a defense. Using the results of somebody's software when they scraped
and they came up with certain images and you got those as a result, that is not a defense.
So while they had maybe the best of intentions in using it, it's their job to do a trademark search,
a copyright search to make sure that it doesn't infringe. If they're going to use it in a big
marketing way. Now, separate from that, I as the copyright owner did not lose legal rights,
but where I think it's going to get really messy in the courts is if I'm uploading my own personal
copyrighted, copyrightable works and there's no copyright notice on it in any way, shape or form.
And I'm not making it clear to other people that this is a copyrighted work. And now I'm aware
that that becomes part of a general repository and it's being modified for other people.
Did I do something to contribute to the fact that another party is using my copyrightable work?
So does that have an effect on the damages? Maybe they in fact do infringe still on their copyright
law, but maybe the fact that I should have known that what I uploaded now became publicly available
because that's what this platform is. And now that I've exposed it to others and others are
using it and it's prevalent all over the place, can I expect to make tremendous damages from
everybody who's using my stuff when I chose to make my stuff available on a public platform?
I think that's the case law that's going to develop over some time. People are going to
try to figure that out. So there may be, yes, a court might come out and say, definitely copyright
infringement. But then when it comes to damages, a good litigator is going to present this. They're
going to say, you know what, your honor? Yes, it is the case that in a direct analysis, Steve over
here and his books utilize that image, but they use it from a public platform. They were not aware
that it was copyrighted. They tried to do a quick copyright search. Here's proof that they tried to
do a copyright search. It definitely may be considered to be copyright infringement at this
point. But for all purposes, your honor, what exactly was Steve supposed to do? She decided
to upload her stuff into a public platform. People utilize what was publicly available.
And now she's trying to gain damages for something that was her own action. I think that will be a
good litigation matter by a good litigator. And I think it will have a direct effect on the damages.
So let me move on to the next question because there's a lot of questions here. All right. Next
one. Annette Spriggs asks, for literary works in the public domain, if I use them as a base
to create a new work using AI, can I copyright the new work? Okay. I heard AI generated work
may not be protectable. Yes. Okay. So if I take a book that's in a public domain, like an old
Shakespearean book, and I upload a certain portion of it, and I do a slight modification of it using
AI, there's two things that are going on here. It is publicly available. I am modifying based on my
own prompts. But for now, the Copyright Office does not acknowledge that legal rights under
copyright are going to be awarded to somebody who is using AI software. And so for that reason,
that modification that is being done based on my prompts to a publicly available
resource, what does not result in a new work that I own under copyright law.
This is why what I tell people in general is, if you're trying to come up with a new work that
is that you can own under copyright law, it's better to use these things like ChadCPT
to get ideas. So you say, all right, I've got a character. Character is a ranger in a forest.
The ranger in the forest walks into a certain region, it gets darker and darker. And as it
gets darker, they see this kind of like a blue hue over a rock. And when he touches the rock,
he goes through a portal and he shows up 2000 years BC. And now he's in another dimension and
he has to figure out how to survive in this environment. Create a story that is 20 pages long
with
that background, right? Now, that story that's created right
there, I can't get a copyright on that. But what if instead, I
said, you know, um, can with that as a basis for a story, can
you provide me with a good, a good animal character that might
be valuable in the storyline to provide the following effect,
and then it pops up saying, yeah, there's a prehistoric
possum or something like that, that that that can be utilized,
and it fits in this way. Now I get an idea. Oh, okay, pre
historic possum. Cool. I got some ideas. Now I go back to
writing it. See, I got an idea from chat TPT that I didn't
utilize within my own platform in my own writing, and I have a
new copyrightable work. That's the way you use it. You don't,
you don't have it right everything for you, because
right now the copyright office is not allowing that to be.
Yeah, that's funny, April. My daughters as a quick aside, I
love storytelling. That's one of my favorite things. When my
daughters were very young, they're 21 and 18. Now, well, 17
now. And when they were young, every single night, I would tell
them a new story, like literally every night. And my wife, to
this day, she says, I wish you were recorded them. Like I had
1000s of stories, 1000s of original stories. And so I love
storytelling. So alright, next question. Diane Kephart asks,
how are original author books protected from AI? Okay. This is
a big question. Let's say you have your own created work, how
do you protect your own work from being scraped? How do you
protect your work from being harvested and becoming part of,
of this, of this, this engine that is going to continue to
learn from your materials? Like, how do you do that? Like, what
can you do? There are a number of programs that are out there
right now, I would look up glazing, I would look up and
there's a number of new programs in the network, I'll be posting
them all. Actually, there's a few of them that are posted in
that private group right now. And there's new stuff that will
be posted, that are different platforms that you can actually
use. After I test them, I like to try to test them before I
tell you guys to use them. Because otherwise, I'm just
spectating, or speculating, not spectating. Okay, so there are
things you could do on your side, to make it so that if any
scraping is done, it can't see your artwork, it can't see your
authored work. It's essentially invisible. Okay, that is
phenomenal technology. There's one in particular, the way it
works, glazing, the way glazing works is that it, it adds like
certain, certain things to your images, so that a computer can't
recognize it to scrape. And in fact, like when you're using
when you're using your images, it can't it can't be harvested
because the human eye can see it, but the computer can't quite
get a good grasp on it. So I would look up glazing, just look
in detail, and you'll see some on that. And there's other
programs that are coming out now. There are a number of AI
software platform owners now that are making it available for
you to send a communication to them. If you do not want certain
pages or certain websites or certain things like that to be
harvested. And so that is starting to become available,
just starting to become available. This, just so you
guys know, this is such a hot issue, like literally, every
week, something new is happening. So you got to stay on
top of this. Let's see. Okay, next one. Patty Barber, Patty
Barber asks, several AI art generators allow you to choose
to make art in their likeness? I like this question, because this
is not a simple one. So you're making artwork in their in their
likeness. Okay, so. So for those of you that don't know
this, you can go into chat TPT, and you can actually tell it to
take a Shakespearean tone or to take a another tone, or you can
go into mid journey and have it create something that is like
Picasso esque or something like that. Which is really neat,
really great technologies. The question is, if I'm asking it to
create something with a certain tone, with a certain likeness,
can I run into an infringement issue? Look, again, this is not
legal advice. Okay, I'm going to tell you my opinion on this.
There's a way I it should it should play out is that likeness
is using things that are already created. If those things that
are already created are protected, and
the result that you're getting is using some of the protected content, then you can run into problems.
Now, if you're asking for something that's like Picasco-esque, you're not going to get in
problems. Picasco is long gone, right? His works, I believe all the copyrights are expired at this
point. So you don't really have issues here. Let's say instead you're trying to do, I don't
know if you guys have seen this. Who is the artist? Somebody type in the chat. April said
ran out of water. Somebody type in the chat. Who is the artist who had a dream and she
encountered Jesus and she came out with the painting and many people said, oh my gosh,
that's the exact same picture. She is world famous. She did it when she was eight or something
like that. It's such a popular, popular image. Yeah, that young girl. Is it Kiana? I think it's
Kiana. Yeah. So anyways, she, okay, well, let's just say that, that there it is. That's it. That's
it. Akiane, Akiane, Akiana, Akiana. Anyway, Akiane. And so she, if, how do I put this?
If you wanted to create a work with her likeness, she's still alive. Her, her works are all
copyrighted. Every one of them, like everybody wants an original from her. Incredible detail.
And so if you try to create a likeness of hers, you got to be careful that it's not grabbing
certain essence of the original copyrighted work and smacking it into yours. So it comes down to
doing a copyright search or doing a trademark search to make sure there's no potential infringement.
Otherwise the general tone of something like Picasco-esque, you know, Shakespearean-like
in language, I'm not too concerned about that stuff, but where I'm not a hundred percent sure
is, is that AI engine going to, going to grab some of the original content to give you the result?
If it does that, then you run. Yes. That's it. Prince of Peace. Amazing. If you haven't seen
that image, oh my gosh, that painting is, is truly amazing. Okay. One more. And then I'm going
to take a few live ones here too. And just so you know, these are live ones, like people here type
these questions. So I got these guys from you. So there were a few people here that are prompt
engineers. And so they asked like, what should I be looking at? That was a broad question,
but I said, you know what? I'm up for a challenge. Let me answer your question. So first of all,
find a way to, the copyright office is currently, literally right now, they are taking,
let's see if I could share my screen real fast on something in a second. They're taking
your comments. You can actually send comments to the copyright office and,
and give them your opinion as to why AI generated images and content, videos, audio should actually
be protectable under copyright law. You can do that right now. And I believe the door is open
until October. And we'll be going through, we're actually going to be doing this live
in the network. So in ALUN, the AI Legal Update Network, I'm going to walk you guys through
actually doing one live. So everybody here can literally submit your own petition to the
copyright office. But do yourself a favor, like, don't say you guys have gotten this wrong. You're
not even close. We should be able to own what we create. Don't do that, because it's going to shut
them up. And we, as of right now, we've got a good rhythm where the copyright offices is changing
their forms for copyright applications. They're going to be looking at prompts, potentially for
obtaining legal rights to the resulting image or text. So as a prompt engineer, what should you be
thinking of? Number one, get really good at your trade. Get really good at your trade. As a prompt
engineer, you want to do this. Come out with your own unique ways of drafting prompts that are just
original. There are things that you can copy in a certain way. You have your own way of doing it.
Get a reputation as a good, strong prompt engineer. And as a copyright office comes out and
starts to acknowledge that certain prompts are copyrightable, meaning the results of those prompts
are copyrightable, the images, the audio, the text, you're going to make a fortune.
But you're going to just make a ridiculous fortune, okay? Because everybody's going to want to hire you.
So number one is keep working on your prompts.
Like, just like if you're a software programmer,
it's essentially software programming.
Come up with your own style and save all of your prompts,
like your really good prompts, save,
find certain core elements to your prompts
that you can repeat,
and then put those things together, like in packages,
like these are things you could sell
that are copyrightable because the typed prompt,
what you're typing in a prompt
is actually already copyrightable.
So whatever you're typing in,
that elongated prompt that gave you that incredible image,
you can file a copyright just on that written prompt.
What you can't get a copyright for is the result.
Does that make sense, guys?
Raise your hand if that makes sense,
because I need to make sure you understand this.
Okay, you guys are getting this.
So again, you already have rights under copyright law
to the prompt, the written prompt.
If you have certain prompts that are phenomenal,
file copyrights on them.
Like cost you 65 bucks at the copyright office,
and you'll actually learn in the Protect Your Idea Challenge
how to file a copyright yourself.
So we'll walk you through it.
It's very simple.
Most people don't understand it,
but we'll walk through that.
So just understand that you can own the prompts.
So you can create a book of prompts
and then sell the book at a very high value.
And then if your prompts, your style of prompts
and your prompts are starting to get acknowledged
by the copyright office as resulting in images or texts
that you can actually own under copyrights,
oh my gosh, that's it.
You can write your ticket.
And so there's gonna be a window.
There's gonna be a window of time
where the people who are really good prompt engineers
are gonna come up under such high demand
that you guys can just write your ticket, right?
So become a master, like I said,
become a master of this trade.
Copyright office will acknowledge the results
of sophisticated and detailed prompts as copyrightable.
I'm telling you, this is gonna happen.
I believe it's gonna happen within the next six months.
And so you guys are just gonna do remarkably well.
And I hope you do because it's really hard work
what you're doing.
And I wanna make sure you do well.
Okay.
Let me take some live questions here.
I've already covered a lot of material.
Let me make my screen bigger here.
There we go.
Okay.
Look at that.
And we still have, we've only lost like 20 people.
You guys must be enjoying this.
Is this helpful?
Is it helpful?
Good, yes.
All right, awesome.
I'm glad this is helpful.
So for me, I wanted to be able to cover
a lot of different aspects,
but just understand I have artists here.
There are prompt engineers here.
There are entrepreneurs here.
There's business owners here.
There are like authors here.
There's media.
There's actually a few people from the media
that are here right now.
People from educational institutions,
all sorts of different categories.
So I wanna cover at least one thing
that'll cover each person.
So hopefully I've done that.
So with that, let me take a few questions.
Let me go to Tammy.
Tammy Wicks.
I love that.
All right, let's unmute her.
Here we go.
Can you unmute?
Perfect.
Thank you so much.
Thank you.
First of all, this is amazing.
So thank you for this.
This is a very hot topic.
So I own a small publishing company
as well as I'm an author myself.
And so there have been some very aggressive conversations
with some of my clients
because I've been asking,
one of them got deeply offended,
but I've been asking,
what did you use to help you?
Is this all of your original work?
Was there any AI?
So I'm having these verbal conversations.
Amazon just-
Can I just stop you there for a second?
Just for a second.
I wanna applaud you
because you are ahead of the game.
Like you are ahead of the game,
which means like people should be hiring you quite frankly,
because you're one of the few
that actually knows this game already.
So I just wanna celebrate you
and applaud you because you're ahead.
I've got a lot of people
that aren't even thinking about this yet.
So go right ahead, Tami.
All parties.
Thank you, sir.
So what the conversation ended up being
that the person used Grammarly.
So we know that Grammarly is AI, right?
And Amazon just generated,
I believe it's like two days ago,
maybe the articles from the six
about now they're actually asking you a question
to kind of know what measure of AI,
which Grammarly is AI,
ProWritingAid, which is one of the ones I use,
they're all AI, right?
Or in ChatGPT.
So they wanna know how much you used it,
kind of what degrees.
There's about five or six questions.
So again, knowing this is not legal advice,
I'm a former paralegal, so I get that.
If you're on the other end of this,
as far as protecting my business,
as well as protecting the clients themselves,
would you look at getting that in writing as a contract?
I mean, we can't use AI to check to see if they use AI.
All right, well, let me address that first.
And again, guys, this is not legal advice.
Like if you want me to, typically what I do,
let me drink first.
Typically what I do, Colin's shaking his head.
He's like, how many times does he drink water?
A lot when I'm training people.
I drink a lot of water, okay?
Thank you, Colin, thank you.
So the first thing is there are different degrees of AI,
right?
So we can't make just an overall arching statement
that says if AI is used in any way, shape or form,
you can't get a copyright.
I don't believe that to be true, okay?
If what's happening is like a spell check
is automatically being done,
that's not modifying the original copyrightable work.
See, one of the things all of you are gonna learn
in the Protector Idea Challenge is that
copyrights come down to the essence of the copyright.
So I'm gonna help all of you understand
like how do you determine what the essence is?
Like what are the main factors in that?
How can you work with your own clients
and figure this out quickly?
Cause you don't have a lot of time to do this.
So when I look at a modification that's being done
by artificial intelligence software,
if the modification really isn't getting to the essence
of the work, then it's not modifying.
It doesn't have any effect on the copyrightable work.
So therefore it's not affecting the copyrightable work
in any way, shape or form.
Cause what's copyrightable is the essence of the work.
So as an example, the Mona Lisa, right?
Let's assume that the original artist was alive today
and the Mona Lisa just came out yesterday.
And I look at that and I said, man, that is awesome.
I like the simplicity of it.
You know, I like this like the...
There's different features of it that I really appreciate.
And I say, you know what I don't like is the background.
The background, it just doesn't work for me.
So you know what I'm gonna do
is I'm gonna upload that image into mid journey.
I'm gonna say change the background.
So there's no water there.
There's no grassy hills.
Instead, I've got her face like in a business room
or something like that, or in an indoor environment.
To me, it makes a little more sense than her being out
in the open with water and like, you know,
green hills in the background, makes no sense to me.
So I do that modification.
I've modified what is not the essence
of the copyrightable work, right?
But I've copied the essence.
So therefore it's copyright infringement.
You see, so I've got to always look at what's the essence.
So if the editing that's being done
is something like Grammarly.
And I understand that Grammarly is getting better
and better where it's actually giving you suggestions
to modify entire paragraphs.
It's no longer like you said,
I have to go over there, T-H-E-I-E-I-R
and it changes it to like, you know, T-H-E-R-E
or it's not.
Whatever.
Yeah, all of a sudden it's like changing the context.
When it gets into that level of modification,
now you're running into problems.
And so what, and this is why I love that all of you
were responsible enough to be here and to pursue this
and to learn about this IP,
because it just makes you more valuable
to your clients, quite frankly.
Imagine that now you can sit down with your clients
and you can say, oh, well,
what was the modification was done?
Okay, well, when I look at your work,
the essence of it is this, this, and this.
The modification that was done
was like one part of a sentence
that was just changing a past tense to a future tense.
And so therefore it doesn't have any effect
on the copyright.
Let's go forward.
Boom.
Tell me who else can do that.
You can.
You see, so you just bring up your own value
by looking for, you know, for forums like this.
So I, again, applaud you for that.
So what I would say is as a,
I can't say as a general, as a general statement,
use Grammarly, you're gonna get in trouble
or use Grammarly, you're not gonna get in trouble.
It's gonna come down to the essence of the copyright.
Okay, and that, for that,
you need to understand what that really is.
Okay.
And the best way to protect ourselves as publishers
is maybe to get them sign a contract
or just saying, hey, I didn't use this.
This is my, this, the essence of this work is-
Yeah, I mean, you nailed it on the head, Tammy,
because there's multiple tiers of potential liability,
right, as a publisher.
You are, you're essentially going to the public
and making a statement that this is an original work.
This is an original creation.
Like your reputation is on the line as you're-
Yes.
going out and saying, hey, I've created this publishing company.
Anything that goes through my publishing company is an original work.
It's not created by A.I.
And you're going to meet the original creators themselves, right?
If that's the case, yeah, you want to get it in writing from these people saying,
hey, I acknowledge that I have not used
artificial intelligence software platforms to do the following
and then give some examples in that, you know, some examples
may be the following boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.
And not limited to lawyers love the language, not limited to
you know, this as a paralegal.
So we love that language.
That's what I would do.
I would get it in writing.
I think it would be very helpful.
So hopefully that helps you.
Let me go to another question.
Thank you.
It's my true pleasure. Absolutely.
So let me take he'll estate he's back.
The the legend has returned.
Let's bring him back.
Thanks, brother. Thanks.
Great to have you again.
The most appreciated me calling on me again.
Absolutely. It's good to see you.
What can I do for you?
Good to see my body again.
Yes, absolutely.
I'm a fellow Brasileiro, so you got it.
Well, I have a question.
So if you're if you have a course online that's copyrighted
and you use a to make like course materials, like study guides, etc.
Can you say that that's a derivative work
and thus you own the copyrights to those derivative works of those?
That is a brilliant question.
And Ray, this should be a clip when I'm about to say this.
Mark, the time you got it.
This right here is this is gold right here.
That that was a perfect question.
There are a lot of people that have online courses.
Online courses are phenomenal.
Great stream of income.
You can get evergreens going, sit back and it becomes a great resource
for you long term. Right.
We may take some of our own content and turn it into evergreen.
But you're right.
For marketing purposes, we do use things like mid journey,
you know, chat, GPT and others.
So there will be certain portions of your course
that you can have legal rights to and under a copyright law.
And there'll be certain portions of your course
that you cannot have legal rights to under copyright law. Right.
Now, when you create a package, this is where it gets tricky.
If I create a package.
In that package, I say this is a copyrighted work of such and such.
Right. And in there, there's some things that I can't legally own
under copyright law.
The question is, do I need to disclose what specifically is copyrighted?
What is not copyrighted?
What I would say is, you know how to reach me personally.
So, you know, we can talk about things that are more specific
like to your scenario.
But I would make it very clear as to what things are not owned
under copyright law.
Like I would just do that because because of a few things.
There is an area of law that people don't talk about much.
It's called tortious interference with business practice. OK.
Most people never heard of it if they're not in litigation.
The way it works is when you are you are saying to the public
that you have certain legal rights that you don't have.
OK. It gives you a a unwarranted benefit.
It makes people run away when they shouldn't have to run away.
As an example, if I put on on a product, let's let's say I have my cell phone
and I put on the back of the cell phone a patent number, but that patent's expired.
Right. So there's no legal rights to it anymore.
And I or I say patent pending when I don't have a patent pending anymore.
Right. The competition won't do that specific thing
because they're afraid of being sued for patent infringement.
Now, if they find out that I actually don't own
I don't have rights under under patent law.
Same thing with trademarks. Same thing with copyrights.
I'm misleading the public.
I'm making them believe they have rights where I don't have rights.
And so for that reason, I can run into a situation where another party
doesn't use something because they believe I have a legal right.
That may be actionable.
Now, have I seen this happen?
No. Just to be clear, like, have I seen a court case come out?
I'm not saying it doesn't exist, but I haven't seen a court case come out
where somebody said, here's my and I'm actually going to look this up now
because this is a great topic.
I love this online courses.
So I'll actually look this up and I'll report to you guys in the network
what I find on this when I look in the federal database.
So. If I actually do this and like there's one image
in my entire copyrightable work that I didn't create,
am I going to get sued for it?
Look, first of all, let me drink.
Number two, what are the chances?
Like very, very, very low, right?
I can't go telling you do this,
but what I would do is I would just have a disclaimer.
So I would have something like here's a,
on my course, I would say the course content
is hereby protected under copyright law.
Certain images are protected under copyright law.
You know, certain images are not protected
under copyright law.
If you wanna know, you know,
which things you can and cannot do with such resources,
contact us at blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, right?
So you're making them aware of certain things.
But what I would do is on my images
that are incredibly important,
I would put the copyright notice right on the image.
So there's no question when it comes to it, right?
So there's 10 images there, but three of them are vital.
Get the copyright notice like right there.
So everybody, there's no way somebody can make the mistake.
So like a watermark?
Yeah, you could do like,
like you'll see on paintings that sometimes people
just type in a copyright notice on it.
You could do like a watermark on it.
Yeah, you could do that.
But most of the time, it's not like,
people don't typically watermark copyright notices.
They actually make it very legible,
very easy to see and not removable.
It's layered into the actual image,
but I would get it on there.
But I love your question.
It breaks down to multiple parts.
The written work, is the written work,
the text purely yours?
Yes, awesome, got it.
Make sure it's clear, like in your terms and conditions.
All text is protectable under copyright law.
Certain images are protectable under copyright law.
So you're not misleading the public.
Just in case somebody gets mad at you,
you can say, look, it's in my terms and conditions.
Lighten up, like,
don't you have something else to do this weekend?
And you can make it where it's obvious
because it's like the audio of a transcription
that then you use to generate a study guide summary,
essentially from,
because then they couldn't say that it's even from Texas,
from your direct voice.
Yeah, and actually, it's funny you mentioned that
because what a lot of people are asking is,
well, what if somebody is mimicking my voice?
What can I do?
Like, how can I stop them?
Because there's not a lot of law that's hitting on,
all of a sudden, I want to take Tom's voice.
Like, I like Tom's voice.
I want to mimic his voice.
And I'm going to take his voice
and I'm going to put it on all my animated characters.
Right, like, what can Tom do now?
You know, and so the question is,
well, how did I get Tom's voice in the first place?
I got Tom's voice through an audio file,
through a recording.
The second that I grabbed that, that's a copy.
I modified the original, that's copyright infringement.
So there's ways to do this.
But if you're doing a transcription of your own work,
you don't have a problem.
Like, we're going to be doing that with this.
I'll be doing an audio transcription of this stuff,
making it available to certain people
so they can listen to it in the car
and things like that for convenience.
So let me move on to a few other questions, my friend,
and let's stay in touch.
Good to see you.
All right, let me go to Tom.
Since I used your name, I'm going to call him next,
but since I used your name, Tom,
let me actually go to you now.
I was wondering if you can-
Let me tell you, hold on, let me, oh, hold on.
Okay.
So my question is, you know, I was doing some articles
and I gave it to ChatGPT to edit it.
Then I asked Bart to re-edit it.
Then I came out with much different results.
Is that a good way to do things?
A good way to do things?
So you used AI to create something
and then you used AI to modify the AI result.
Yeah, so that's a great question, Tom.
First of all, that's a great question.
The reason why that's a great question
is because it raises a point that I didn't mention today.
So for all of you that are using AI to create prompts
to then put into AI, as an example,
you can use ChatGPT to come up with a prompt
to then run in mid-journey
to give you like the perfect image, okay?
You're essentially using AI to use AI.
You are so far detached from copyrightable material
at this point, it is not good.
So, but I mean, highly effective.
You can get phenomenal results
if you don't care about ownership.
I would do it all day and night.
Like if you don't care about owning it, do it, it's great.
But as far as the potential of owning the results,
if I'm using AI to create something
to then throw into AI to modify or to teach AI
or to train AI or to.
to get a result from AI, no copyrights.
But I found that BARD gives very different results.
It does. It does. You're exactly right.
And what you just said, Tom, is that is the result
of a different neural network and a different engine
that's being utilized by the two different companies.
The companies, they're not using the exact same technology.
So what you'll find is that BARD will give you
certain things that ChatTPT won't.
ChatTPT will give you certain things that BARD won't.
And so you need to figure out what works best for you,
for your prompt style, and for the results
that you're trying to obtain.
But I agree with you 100%.
You could take the same prompt and get two different things
from both of them.
Yes, absolutely.
All right. Let me go to Colin.
It's good to see you here, Colin.
Let's get him pinned up. Where'd he go?
I was looking forward to it. I was like, where did he go?
He was just, his hand was up and then he vanished into the-
Colin, stop playing Houdini.
Raise your virtual hand again.
There he is. I see him. I got you.
There you go. Keep it up so we can pin you.
All right. Now you're pinned. Now we got you.
Okay. How are you?
Let's unmute you. There you go.
How are you?
Yes, I'm very well. Thank you, Peter.
And I wanted to thank you again for running this.
This has been phenomenal hearing it a second time.
Thank you very much. I appreciate that.
Thank you.
So a bit of backstory for this question,
because I don't want anyone to get the wrong idea.
So I was on YouTube and I was just kind of looking through stuff,
looking at Christian sermons and stuff.
And this awful advert showed up,
which said, build your own girlfriend AI.
And at that point I was like, that's disgusting.
Also go away, Satan.
And then I hang about.
So Peter said, chatbots and other AIs have been scraping from the internet.
And that means they have probably been scraping off Facebook.
So what if someone decides they're going to take my image?
They take my voice.
You kind of already answered some of this already.
And so, hey, I want to build a boyfriend of Colin.
It's like, that's not okay.
And chatbot GPT can actually impersonate people.
And I would never know.
So someone is impersonating me, using it for pushing scams,
or for some reason they want a facsimile of me.
Whatever the result, right.
Whatever the reason may be.
So let me address this.
So you raised two points here, actually.
The first one, I know I keep referring to the network
and the Protector Idea Challenge,
but we cover some of this stuff in great detail in there.
So let me just mention one thing that I do mention there from day one.
Facebook gets a non-exclusive license to everything that you put on it.
Everything, okay.
So if you live stream your trainings, your online classes,
your Zooms, your Microsoft Teams, whatever it is,
you're live streaming into Facebook.
They now get a non-exclusive license to use a lot of this stuff.
That's a problem because now you can't stop them from using your own stuff, right.
There are ways to delete, but still there's certain terms.
And I've read that thing.
It is remarkably verbose.
And they cover themselves very well.
This is why during your birthday, you get a video with your own stuff,
because they have a legal right to your stuff, okay.
So you might want to, you know, wonder about that.
Okay.
With that being said, I just want to give that warning out to everybody.
If you're live streaming your classes or your challenges or your masterclasses, whatever,
into what's called a private quote-unquote Facebook group,
it's not quote-unquote private, okay.
They have access to it, all right.
So now Colin asked a brilliant question, which was,
well, isn't Facebook part of the internet?
So isn't that part of what was scraped?
And as far as I know, the answer is yes.
Like I have no reason to believe that the content that was in Facebook from 2021
and prior was not scraped.
And so, and it's actually worse than that.
It can't be removed.
Like Samsung went to OpenAI and said, can you please remove my content?
It's a trade secret.
It's going to result in us losing tons of money.
Can you please remove it?
That's interesting.
And so, OpenAI said, no, it's in there.
It's like putting garlic in tomato sauce.
You can't get the garlic out.
It's in.
You're done.
And so,
Why is this all important? Number one, be careful about what you put on Facebook,
that's number one. Number two, can you stop people from using your likeness?
This is a huge issue that is playing out literally right now in the courts. It's being litigated.
There are actors, actresses that are on strike because of this. There are NFL players that are
actually concerned that this actually may be utilized to create a new league that's a virtual
league with their likeness, not only in video games, but actually you're watching it on television,
like a whole new virtual league, and they don't have the permission of these players.
What can these people do? This is playing out right now, Colin. That's part of it.
You're going to see a lot of developments month after month in this specific area. I know it's
being expedited in the courts right now. I'm going to have updates on this very soon.
But I'd say one of the first things people can look at is, again, copyright law. One of the
things we talked about. Any of your recordings, where did they get the original works?
Here's the beauty of copyright law. You have legal rights even before you filed anything.
Whether you file for federal registration or you don't file for the registration,
you have legal rights, period. Now, if you want to enforce your legal rights,
you have to file for federal registration. That's $65 online. It's cheap. If it's important to you,
protect it. With that, I'm going to stop, guys. It's been two and a half hours.
I said I would go two hours. Let me take the iPhone one. I'm going to say, look at Ray. She's
like, I don't generally like iPhone because I don't know what a person is. I don't have an image.
This could be an old friend of mine who's coming back in a vengeful manner. He's trying to come
out here. With that preface, I am going to trust that iPhone has a good question.
I'll pull up iPhone. Good seeing you, Colin. Take care, my friend.
All right. Let's get iPhone. I can't pin iPhone. There's no face.
All right. Let's see. Do you have a question? No. All right. Well, let's close that one.
All right. With that, there you are. Hey, how are you?
You're breaking up a lot. You're breaking up a lot. I love your happiness.
Yes. There's bad reception in my area.
Okay. Go ahead. Hey, why don't you do me a favor? Type in your chat. Type in the chat where your
question is because we're not getting good reception here. We'll remove the pin and we'll
take it from there. All right. With that, my friends, I am going to close. Katina, I already
answered one of your questions and did a follow up. I'm going to close here. I truly hope that
this was helpful for all of you. It was my honor to do this. I don't think I'm going to be doing
this for a while. What I'm going to do is I'm going to be moving. I was saying, can't you use
that as a dissertation? So what I'm going to be doing is I'm going to be moving this.
Hold on one second. All right. Let me just make sure I don't unmute again. Very cool. All right.
So I'm going to be moving what I'm doing here in a training into that private network. And so I
would strongly suggest if you are using this content, if you're going to be using AI and
quite frankly, everybody here is going to run into AI being utilized either because you want to
or your businesses are using it or some other company is actually utilizing it for resources
that you're providing or things that you're using as a company. And for that reason, you're going to
want to stay up on this either. Either do it with me or just stay up to speed on this because the
law is changing very fast. The copyright office is changing very fast and there's a lot happening
right now. I don't want you guys getting in trouble. And I believe we're about two months
away from that third stage where lawsuits will happen against individuals. Anybody who knows me
knows I don't do fear mongering to make people do things. That's not what I'm doing. I want to make
sure that you're safe. And a lot of you invested in yourselves, you're invested in your businesses
and you have bootstrap companies or you have
and really vital to your company.
And I just don't wanna see you guys reaching out
and screaming and going crazy
when the lawsuits are happening
and you don't know how to recover.
So you now have more knowledge than I'd say 90%
of the people out there.
If you wanna continue to grow, I hope you join me.
I'll keep you up to speed.
And yes, there is the one-on-one
that's being available for you
for those people that sign up.
It's an hour one-on-one with me.
We can cover anything from AI to trademarks,
copyrights, your inventions, your ideas,
what can you protect, what can't you protect
in your own agreements.
Like we could cover NDAs,
we can cover like different policy issues.
If you're trying to create your own AI business plan,
we can talk about the terms and conditions in there.
I can give you some guidance there as well.
That hour, in that hour,
you're gonna have a patent trademark, copyright,
trade secret law attorney, all in one.
And that's kind of rare.
So I'm making this available to you guys
because I know what the need is now.
And so I'm doing this for you guys now.
Ray, did I miss anything?
Or are we adjourned?
I don't think so.
I mean, I know you know us,
we'll go over all the details.
And if you did, we'll put in the Facebook group like we do.
Think we're good.
Right, and so just so everybody knows that we're,
I wanna get started in that network
and giving people a lot of this feedback
and start doing the one-on-ones pretty soon.
So the door closes Sunday at midnight, okay?
So all the people that are in there,
we're gonna start setting up the meetings with them,
figure out what's convenient with them.
They'll see my calendar.
Cause I actually run a law firm.
I run the FSIP Law Group
and I also run an educational institution.
So we are having the Protect Your Idea Challenge
on the 18th, the week of the 18th.
That is phenomenal.
You guys, you guys are gonna want it.
Anybody who has been there has seen,
you've probably seen it in the chat.
There is nothing like it.
It's 95 bucks.
You actually have to pay for that.
It's not free.
So actually with the smaller package,
you're getting in there as well.
So I think I've talked about this stuff enough
at this point.
People know what they're doing.
Right, I think the last mention is
I'm getting a few requests for the Facebook group link
and I've been dropping it in the chat,
but it's also in the emails that you're receiving
and the text messages.
So if you gave us your real info, you'll get it.
Oh, that's the other thing, yeah.
If I ever run something,
I will mention this thing really quickly.
If I ever run something and you register for it,
try to use your first name, last name,
and your phone number.
The reason why is not because
I'm just gonna randomly call you.
It's because we do like short text messaging
to give you convenience in finding the link.
Having your first name and last name there
allows us to validate that you're a real person
and not some random person we didn't register.
It makes it faster for us to make sure
that everybody can get in.
And Abigail says, I can randomly call you.
That's awesome.
That's phenomenal, I love that.
Well, guys, it was my true pleasure.
I really enjoyed spending this Friday night with you guys.
And so I'm gonna let you all go.
Bless you all.
I just bless all of you, your businesses.
I hope everything goes really well for you guys.
And I'm sure we'll cross paths soon.
Hopefully we'll see you in the network.
Take care.
All right, guys, I will stay on for a few more minutes here.
If you have any administrative questions
or questions about the protection plan,
I'd be happy to answer them.
I am gonna try to fiddle with my earplugs here
so I can hear you better.
But just raise your virtual hand
with the reactions button on the bottom
and we'll get those questions answered.
Debra, how can I help you, Debra?
I'm glad to see you back.
Hello, Ray, how are you?
Hey.
Good, how are you?
I'm doing good.
Hello.
Good.
I got a simple question, it's real simple.
I'm checking out right now, I'm on the site
and I register, sign up for everything.
I'm getting emails from you guys
from one of my other business.
I apologize.
What?
Can you hear me?
Yeah, I can hear you.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, so anyway, I'm getting emails
and I register, sign up with you guys
under one business account,
but I'm using another business account
that has a different email to check out
for the training and everything.
So can I change that?
It's not gonna interrupt anything, is it?
Because-
Actually, yes, but what I'm going to send, but I can help you with that.
So I'm going to send you my email address here in the chat.
And shoot me an email address, explain what you're trying to do with each email
so that I can correct it in our system because we do have a lot of things linked up.
So we'll get you taken care of.
So just shoot me an email and we'll figure it out.
Oh, yeah. Yeah.
The credit card that I'm using is associated with another business.
So that one.
So don't do this. Get out of here. Right.
Just send you and you can you can do whatever you need to do.
And so just give me the email so that I can help correct it in our system
to accommodate you and go ahead and finish my checkout.
Yeah. Whatever you need to do.
We'll just work out the rest of the kinks later.
OK, thank you, Peter. Thank you so much.
I'm really, really enjoying the training.
You're excellent, man.
I really, really have enjoyed this.
Yeah. Thank you so much.
I mean, a lot, Deborah.
I really appreciate that.
You know, yeah, you have a really, really big heart.
You have really, really blessed us with a lot of information.
I know the cost of attorneys.
I've worked for attorneys all my life in every aspect of being a lawyer like you.
And so I knew intellectual property, copyright, trademark, a lot of stuff.
Yeah. So thank you for the update, especially in regard to A.I.
And I feel a lot more confident now. Thank you.
Thank you so much.
Your comment actually hits my heart because it's actually one of the reasons why
I actually was an attorney with a major IP group.
I actually started the patent law department and then I was running the IP group.
I was with that law firm for 17 years and like we were blessed.
We were like the number one IP group 10 years in a row.
And what I realized was that people just don't have access
to the knowledge that I have.
And the only way they can get access to it is if I'm like mentoring them one on one
or they pay six hundred bucks an hour.
And I said, but that means that most of the people that are coming to me
are coming to me after they get in trouble.
So I thought, how can I make it accessible to a lot of people at once?
And that's how I ran into Pedro Adeo, who like trains on doing challenges and things.
And I spent lots of time learning challenges, built infrastructure and other things.
But the main intent of all this thing is really to transform the legal industry.
That is where my heart is.
I want to see it so that attorneys will look at this and go, oh, hold it.
You mean I can train a thousand people at once within a two hour session
and impute the knowledge that I have that will result in them having less problems
and help people at an exponential growth level for their own success?
You mean that's actually possible?
And I won't lose like, you know, 50 hours doing it
because I want to talk to all those people.
It's like, yeah, it's actually possible if your heart's in the right place.
If you truly want to help people, you can do it.
And I believe we found the way to do that.
And so thank you so much for your comments.
They mean a lot. Thank you.
Yeah, that's a really big part.
You know, the attorneys that I've worked for, they all that they're billable,
our hourly billable rate, six hundred fifty dollars an hour.
You know, the majority of people with us.
So it's the heart of God. And I feel that in you. Thank you.
Thank you so much. That means a lot. I appreciate that. Thank you.
Veola, Veola has become like my best friend.
We're like typing back and forth all the time.
Zen, the Zenpreneur. I like that.
Do you have a question on the programs?
If it's one on the programs, we're just taking some administrative questions
right now. Feel free to let us know.
Hey, Ray, should I stop there?
No, I won't stop the recording now yet.
Yeah, it could be a good question. Somebody may have.
All right. Peace and blessings, peace and blessings, Peter.
I'm so glad I made it this time. Yeah, I knew that was Viola.
I saw that. Oh, but I thought it was I, I, oh, it's me.
It's be all as as it looks. Yeah.
I'm so excited we got on this time.
I say that I had all my alarms set, like literally all my alarms.
My husband was leaving out at five. I gave him a peck.
I said, go, baby, go. I got to go take care of this.
So, again, thank you for this.
I had a question
about the admin part.
One was how do we become a member of the A.I.
Legal Update Network? That's one. Right.
That's the one that I figured a lot of people are going to want to do right away.
And so that is the the nine ninety five package.
OK, includes that in it.
So that's the that's the way to get into the network. Take that.
You're going to get a personal message.
You're going to get an invitation to a private Facebook group.
And we're going to start literally dropping
really important changes in the law.
Very important update.
And people can actually post questions in there too,
which will allow me to see what you guys want to know.
And then I can take that and do, call up my contacts,
like Keith, who's the CEO of the Copyright Alliance,
or other people at the USPTO,
or people in the Copyright Office and others,
and ask them some of your questions,
if I don't know the answer myself,
and then get that to you.
Because sometimes it's not,
it's not just the quality of question,
it's the network, it's the contacts.
Like, you know, I could have a brilliant question
for the President of the United States,
but I can't just call him.
So I wanna find somebody who actually knows the person,
and then communicate with them
to get that question answered,
and then to come back and get it to me.
And that's what the network's all about,
is not only do you get my knowledge,
but I'm gonna be able to use that
to talk to certain people on the ground,
and hopefully help you guys out the best way we can.
So that's the one you want.
Take the $9.95 one, jump in that.
Incredible package for you guys.
So you'll enjoy it.
Okay, because I, as a prompt engineer,
and also an AI artist, social media manager,
all of those things,
no one talks about the legal ramifications
of what's going on.
And I'm in plenty of groups,
and there is no conversation about it.
So when I stumbled upon you all last week,
I said, this is where I need to be.
So my husband said to thank you,
because you're gonna save us a lot of money.
That is the hope.
That's why we did that.
Literally, Ray and I were talking about this.
I said, do you have any idea
how much in legal fees we are gonna save people
by just keeping them informed on this stuff?
Like, I mean, one meeting,
I mean, you just heard it from Deborah,
an hour with an attorney, $650.
And do you realize how much,
like you have to tell them what your situation is,
what your business is doing,
get them to draft something, review it,
edit it, come back and forth.
It's like five hours of time.
You know, in that five hours, you spent a lot of money.
And so we've made this thing available
to give people guidance.
And again, no legal advice.
Yeah, yeah.
I used to manage a young lady.
She was an artist and her social media,
everything went viral.
She was opening for celebrities.
So her picture was out there.
And we had so many occasions
where people would take her photograph,
put it on T-shirts, put it on like mugs,
all things and sell these things.
But what we realized, we couldn't do anything about it.
We had to have the photographer to actually,
because he owned the rights to all of the pictures.
Very smart.
So we didn't know how to navigate that.
So that was my issue.
With the art that I'm creating now,
I need to make sure it's protected.
So I'm done.
That's brilliant.
Just so people understand the context
of what Vail is talking about there.
The person who takes the picture owns the copyright.
You guys will learn more about that
in the Protect Your Idea Challenge.
That party who does the action owns it.
So then the question becomes,
all right, if that person owns it, what do I do?
Like if I'm creating an NFT, there's an original artist.
I go at the artist, get the rights from the artist.
Then I can do whatever I want with the NFT.
I can't do that if I don't know the artist,
if I don't have the rights from the artist.
There are lawsuits that are taking place right now
just on the mere fact that somebody's buying an NFT
off of an artist who never gave legal rights
to create the computer generated image
from the original artistic work.
You're not hearing about this stuff,
but this is all happening right now.
So I'm glad this is helping you, Vaila,
and I'm looking forward to seeing you in that network.
Okay, peace and blessings.
Have a great weekend.
You as well.
Peace and blessings, my friend.
Jordan, let's go ahead and see.
What's your administrative question, my friend?
Yes, so thank you.
First of all, I wanna say thank you so much
for taking the time to do this.
You and Ray and everybody here has been so helpful.
Thank you so much.
Thank you.
I'm a business development manager
at a nonprofit organization called Kansas City Gift,
where we give grants to Black-owned businesses
located in the urban core.
And so what I do is I help register businesses,
Black-owned businesses.
And so a lot of times I'm helping them
with their business plans and things of that nature.
And I do a lot of training.
And so I'm wondering if any of your packages
help organizations training,
if it would be where one of us need the training
or we can do the whole group and how that works.
This is what I would do.
And I'll do this special for you
because you stayed this long.
What I'll do is I'm gonna give you an affiliate link, okay?
Because you have a network of people.
Yeah, I train.
We have a partnership
with a few different business training.
So we have hundreds of businesses who come in all the time.
In fact, we have a partnership with some legal,
Hush Blackwell, they're a legal company.
And so they do IP and register businesses
for free pro bono at our location.
But no one has any AI experience.
And I've been asking them, I've sat down with many lawyers
and none of them have any kind of experience.
And so, yeah, this is incredible.
Yeah, so, and to speak towards that,
a lot of lawyers are actually avoiding it
because they're really concerned
that some of the, there's not a lot of case law
that's come out, but what a lot of them
aren't fully grasping yet is that a lot of the principles
of intellectual property law,
which people are going to learn
in the Protector Idea Challenge
and that they'll learn more of in the network
is that those principles pertain
to the AI industry directly.
And so, like we were talking about what was gonna happen
like eight, nine months ago.
And then the court decision came out like two weeks ago
from the Federal District Court in Washington, DC.
And like, I went to my group and I said,
guys, it's exactly what we said, right?
And everybody's like, yeah, that makes sense.
That's what the law says.
I was like, good, you guys are fine.
Let's move on.
So this is what I'm gonna do for you.
I am going to give you an affiliate link
because I wanna bless you personally
because you're taking upon yourself to help others,
which I think is a big deal.
And so you will have to receive a percentage
of every single person that registers
under that link.
You'll personally get paid for that.
And then you can use that resource
to do whatever you want with those finances.
So yeah, so let me make sure,
when you registered, did you do it under Jordan?
Yeah, Jordan.
And it might have been my company email,
jalfordatkansascitygift.org.
So what we can do is we can actually,
I have dropped my email address here in the chat.
If you shoot me an email,
I'll get you set up with an affiliate account.
It'll be the easiest way,
the quickest way to get you,
get you dropped your email number.
Is it the support?
The support here?
Okay, great.
At elite-challenges.com.
Great.
And on my time, on my side,
let me, give me your email address again
so I can just write it down on the side
so I can make sure that you can help them.
Yes, the letter J-A-L-F,
as in frog, O-R-D,
at Kansas City,
spelled out K-A-N-S-A-S,
Kansas City,
gift, as in the present, G-I-F-T,
dot O-R-G.
Got it.
Okay, I got it there too,
just in case something happens with the email
because there are select individuals I find
that are just,
they're perfectly positioned
to help a lot of different people.
And when I see one of them stand up and say,
hey, look, I know my people need that,
they get it.
Now they actually understand what we're trying to do
because like I can run Facebook ads forever
and get people in.
But one thing I always said like to my mentor,
like for ages I've been telling him
is the best way to help people
is find the people who have networks,
who know what their people need.
And then their people can say,
hey, look, we have people that are in this situation,
can we customize something for them?
Boom, you're helping a thousand people
instead of, you know, like smaller groups,
you can help many, many, many groups.
So it's fortunate that you're an individual
who actually wants to help people.
So we'll definitely help you guys out, no problem.
Thank you.
And then also,
cause I'm gonna take this back to my team.
I'm kind of indirectly the AI person in the office.
So they actually paid for me to go
to get my certificate in AI and machine learning at MIT.
So I'm studying in school right now.
Come on, that's awesome.
MIT is one of my clients.
I actually do IP work for them, yeah.
Oh, awesome, awesome.
Yeah, so I'm doing that at the same time
and like doing all the things
and they're relying on me a lot.
And so I'm trying to figure out like,
if there were to be a way,
I don't know if you do like conference calls
with individual businesses
or if you were to be able to do like a masterclass
that would just be private for our business.
And I get as many businesses in the room with you
as possible, that would be phenomenal.
So maybe we can talk offline about that.
We do that, Jordan.
There's a fee associated with that, obviously,
cause we customize things for that.
But it's highly successful.
That's a number of people that have different groups of,
like, that's how we actually got it started.
And it's so effective because then what can happen is
I have a one-on-one meeting
with the person who's running the group.
And I say, okay, tell me a little bit about your group.
Tell me about your people.
What are they running into?
What do you think they'll wanna learn?
And then we customize and we go back to that person
and say, does this sound like what you want?
Would you like a little bit of that, a little bit of that?
And we make it so that when we actually run it,
the people are in awe because it's hitting all their issues.
Yeah, that's a lot of fun.
Happy to do that.
Okay, awesome.
Well, I will speak to you offline and hopefully get you
a call with our CEO and our Chief of Business Development.
That sounds wonderful, Jordan.
Have a great weekend.
Thank you all so much.
Have a great weekend.
You too. Take care.
All right. Let's go to team.
Hey, Peter. I wanted to just answer a question here.
I got messaged about us not
supplying the usual free replay recording.
I know you guys, Peter will never
really come out forward and say this, but I will.
We have put in a lot of effort and
expenses to cover the cost of giving you guys
training for free because Peter just cares.
He literally is paying out of his own pocket to train everyone.
With that, I'm the regulator.
We had to limit our overhead a bit on this.
The replay is included with the packages.
I know it's not usual.
If you join our other programs, it's typically included.
But unfortunately for this one,
it's included with our protection plans.
Well, and even the programs that we run,
the Protector Idea Challenge, it's a paid challenge.
Yes.
The recording that comes with it has already been paid for.
Yes. It's already covered.
Just to be clear,
I mean, I try to remain very humble,
but you guys are getting super lawyer,
lawyer of the year, multiple years,
best of the best, Woodward White, ABA ranks.
I mean, you guys are getting,
I'm kind of shocked that I've been blessed with all this,
but you guys are getting the top.
And so I wouldn't be concerned about a free replay.
I think you might be missing the point.
You should be grabbing access to things at this point.
You don't get access to people like this.
It just doesn't happen, as Debra could tell you.
So let me go to team.
I'll take one more question.
Then I got to leave because my wife and daughters are here.
So I want to go spend some time with them.
So team, go right ahead.
How are you?
Hi, I'm good.
Hi, Peter.
Hello.
Wow, this has been phenomenal.
Thank you so much.
Yes.
And I'll just like to say,
God bless you for all the investment,
for pouring into us.
God bless you right back.
So yeah, I was going to ask,
I'm an AI consultant.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, just kind of new into this space,
I think about a year now.
And one thing I found really,
I'm also an employee of an organization,
a big organization.
And one thing that struck me when you were talking
was having like AI business policies.
Because a lot of employees would just,
for instance, if you have software programmers,
they would just go and use one of those free AI tools.
Yes.
Yeah, so I noticed a lot of,
even big companies don't have that.
Like I know I never signed one.
So I was just wondering what do you have,
if your organization has something around that?
Yeah, that's a great question.
We actually ran this about a week ago
and we actually had in one of the packages
an AI business plan and people jumped at that
because they needed the business plan within their company.
And ironically, I just had one of my associates
fine tuning one of them that I was already working on
and she emailed me again today.
And so we're just fine tuning and fine tuning.
That AI policy, honestly, every single business needs it.
I don't care if you get it from me or someplace else,
you need one.
Like this is so imperative at this point.
I'm shocked that certain insurance carriers
are not making it mandatory to the people
that they're insuring to actually have an AI policy.
And I believe you're gonna see that they're going to
because like you said, they don't realize.
Like how's a person supposed to know
that the software program that they have access to
is making confidential information
available to third parties?
They don't think like that.
They're just trying to get their work done.
So by having an AI business policy,
we're actually not only are we protecting ourselves,
but we're also helping our employees
to understand some of the basics
of really important new technologies that are prevalent
that are gonna become more prevalent.
It's gonna be everywhere.
Literally, it's gonna be hard to avoid AI software.
So if we don't have an AI business policy in place,
we need one.
And so, yes, we do have one on our own side.
We do sell that separately.
If somebody is interested in that,
what I think Ray and I might actually do
is send an email to everybody separate.
Not right now, Ray.
We won't be doing it now.
But we'll send out an email to people saying,
look, if you're interested in AI policy,
we've got one that is like eight pages long.
We'll sell something like that for like $5.95 instead
of like $2,400.
And so you guys will be hearing about it since you're in,
since you guys have, we have your email.
We'll be able to email people to let them know about it.
And then what we can do is get them
a copy of the AI business policy that we put together.
Once you guys get one though, I would sit down with your,
like, if you have an attorney,
have your attorney look at it real quick
and just see if they need to customize it
to your specific scenario.
But the majority of work, like I said,
80, 85% of the work is already done.
And so now it just becomes, hey, you know what?
Within our business,
we actually have a medical device production company.
So I want something just specific
to the medical device unit.
And so they can customize like a clause just for that group.
So it can be just slightly modified,
but absolutely you're exactly right.
Everybody who's in a business or a business owner,
they need an AI business policy at this point.
And you're actually seeing it in news at this point,
it's coming up.
Even in the news, they're mentioning this.
They're saying everybody needs an AI business policy.
So I was kind of shocked to see people saying that
in the news, but it's coming up, yeah.
Yeah, thank you so much.
And then just finally, the IP challenge you talked about,
I think I noticed is from like 18 to 22nd.
Is it like a week long?
And do you have any idea what the time duration is?
I'll tell you a little bit about that.
It's called the Protect Your Idea Challenge.
It's one hour a day for five days.
I walk you through how to determine what within your company
and what within your creations are protectable
and how to protect them
so that you're not just spending money
on absolutely anything that you don't need.
But then you also understand like certain things.
I'll give you one example.
Let's say you go to GoDad
and you ask them to create a logo for you.
You understand that you gotta get all right title
and interest to the original copyrighted work
assigned over to you
so that now you can go and file that trademark application
with the United States Patent and Trademark Office
and have ownership to that logo.
Separately, how do you do trademark searches?
I walk through how to do a trademark search.
I walk through a lot,
like there's a lot of content in there.
So there is a normal entry fee and then there's a VIP
and the VIP entry,
people actually can interact and ask questions.
There's some engagement there.
We walk through an actual filing
of a trademark application online,
me sharing my screen step-by-step.
I walk people through it
so that they understand everything
that they need to provide to their attorney.
What that does is you end up saving thousands of dollars
because you know you need the international class,
you need a recitation of goods and services,
you need the first data use
and like you know everything that's necessary.
So you can put together a package
and then give it to your lawyer.
It saves you like a good 50% on the original cost.
So people that sign up for that challenge,
it's called the Protect Your Idea Challenge.
It's online on Zoom, one hour a day, five days.
It's phenomenal.
And it's actually something I truly enjoy doing
because I get to see the results in the corporations,
in the entrepreneurs, I get to see their growth
and we love it.
So that's what that challenge is.
Whether you take the small package
or you take the big package,
you get in a free ticket to that.
Now, in the bigger package,
you get the one-on-one time with me
and you get in a network.
That's what people want.
They want that network
because they know this stuff is changing.
And just think about how much all of you have learned
already.
Think about that multiplied by 100.
That's what the network's gonna be.
But we'll have more time together
where we can entertain questions
and look at different policies
and figure things out together.
So that's what that's all about.
My friends.