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Okay.

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Love you. Have a good day.

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Hey Priscilla.

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Hey.

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Sorry, I'm a bit late.

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Oh, that's okay. I was actually late to. Oh my goodness. My day is just.

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Yeah, just been one of those days. I'm sorry.

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Yeah.

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Yesterday was that day for me. I haven't had a day like that.

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In a while. It was just, it was just a heavy day.

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Heavy.

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Things came up and, and stuff.

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Anyway, it wasn't, it wasn't with.

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It wasn't with Ed and I.

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It was with people we knew and that, and it crossed our paths.

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And then on top of that, I wasn't feeling well.

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And I couldn't figure out why.

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And I slept for 12 hours last night. I was just that.

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I don't know. Something was going on. And finally I woke up.

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I woke up at like.

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Two 45.

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In the morning and, and I had a splitting headache and I thought, okay,

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I didn't go to bed with a headache and now I have a headache.

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I know what this is. This is dehydration.

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And I was like, I don't know what's going on.

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But I, so apparently that's why I was feeling bad yesterday and why I

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slept so long and just couldn't get up because it was like,

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I feel horrible. What's going on.

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I was dehydrated though.

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Today we're checking the water.

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Oh, yes. I get that.

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That'll help me tackle the day better.

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Yeah.

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Hey, how are you guys?

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Good.

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The news.

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I know.

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How are you doing this summer?

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How are you doing?

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I'm doing good. It's interesting.

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I think a couple of weeks ago I ran into.

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I was at the cafeteria at work and I was just like,

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There's this one woman that I don't really know.

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I don't know if I told you guys that, but I don't really know her.

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And I was like, Oh, Hey, how are you?

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Cause she's on the social committee. And she was like,

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Like the.

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Oh, I just, I just got news that my ex-husband's appeal was dismissed.

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And I was like, Hmm, I'm going to claim that for myself. If she appeals.

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That's just going to be dismissed. I'm like,

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I'm going to take this as a little wink from heaven.

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And then.

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Because.

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If it's like it is in the States, it has to be very.

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Very significant.

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In order to appeal appealing, isn't just easy, you know,

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to take all that court time. I mean, there has to be approval.

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There has to be.

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You know,

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there has to be enough evidence that the judge did not make a good

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decision or the jury. I'm not sure if there was a jury.

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No, there wasn't.

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There was.

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Oh, there wasn't. Okay.

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No.

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And in all of that. So it's no little deal to actually.

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Be able to get an appeal. So hopefully.

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That's the case.

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Yeah, that's what I'm hoping to. So, but I froze.

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Yeah.

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The interesting thing is just as I saw it, I was just like.

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Gross. And I was like, I was sitting and having lunch and I was like,

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I have to leave.

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And then I just went. And by the time I made it up to my office,

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I was like,

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I'm okay.

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I'm okay. Like.

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God's got this. It's fine.

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And so I was like, I texted you guys. I texted them, my friends.

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No, I still feel like victory is ours.

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And one of my friends says, well,

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the first battle is about.

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Taking the ground.

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And the second battle is about keeping your ground.

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So I was like, okay.

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She's like, well, you're gaining authority in this. And so.

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The devil's not about to just give you stuff just for free.

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Like just, he's not going to give up without a fight.

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And I'm like, but he's on the losing team. So.

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So, but it's interesting.

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Cause I was like, oh, if this happens,

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then I'm just going to quit my job.

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And just be like, peace out.

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Cause we have three months here before you can leave.

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When you quit your job. It's not like a two weeks notice.

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Like three months before.

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Yeah.

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Three months.

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Yeah.

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If they let you go as well, three months.

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Yeah.

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I know. Yeah.

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No, it's it's three months and it's like, yeah.

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So I'm like, oh man.

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And so, but so I feel like today.

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I've had like a lot of good,

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just like connections and like feedback from people just like,

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you know, like that. And then.

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just brings like a sliver of like hope of what's to come.

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I feel like it's very God too. Like in the middle of it.

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Yeah, so it's been like an interesting. I went to a

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conference last week. And that was with my old job. And so it

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felt like, Oh, this is so like, so nice to see everyone. And

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they're like, Oh, you belong here, like you need to work

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here. And then I was there with a colleague. And then I was

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going for a meeting with somebody else after so I was

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like, Oh, I feel like I'm living in my past, present and future.

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Like there's something unknown there in the future. So yeah, so

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I've had this meeting with this, I think I told you guys that

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about this guy that has its own like music thing. And um, I

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wasn't quite feeling it. And I didn't know. And then I had

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another meeting today with my friend Christiana that I've

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been working with for a while. And her husband is half

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Norwegian, half American. And he's, he's been thinking about

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different solutions. And when he was talking, I was like, Oh my

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gosh, this is what I've been sensing. But I haven't been able

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to like, see, how can I make this happen? So I don't know, it

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just felt like he had some possible solutions as to what it

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could look like for me to start my own business, to collaborate

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with them to be able to work both here and in the States. And

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I don't know, I just felt like hope in the middle of all the

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drama. That's so so that's why I'm like, Oh, I'm great. I'm,

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I'm not. Well, I'm good. I'm a bit tired. I've had a bit of a

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cry. But it's good, because I felt like, oh, I went to the

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chiropractor earlier. And before I would always go get candy. And

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I didn't today. And I've just had like fruit. And then I saw

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something like of my dad, and then I just started crying. And

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I'm like, Oh, this is good. It's like, my emotions are coming up.

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So it just it. So it feels okay. Yeah.

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I'm so glad. Yeah. So yeah, you're having that special. And

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I already want to call that the, I was gonna say that connection

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with the Lord, but just that, that holding on to him, and then

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truly feeling that connection between you and him of like, No,

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he says that he is this to me. And that's what I'm using.

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That's great. And it just feels very different. Yeah, just like

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great. Well, you know that, like what your friend said, of

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gaining ground, and then and then holding the ground. That's

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what the burial time is, because you know, there's death,

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burial, then resurrection. And there's always that time in

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between that we don't like, but the time in between, you know,

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the burial, that's the time in which you're proving that what

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happened in the decision that you made, and the fact that you

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really did die to that thing really did happen. And so that's

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what that that that is. And, and we know that, because in Bible

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times, when Jesus, the reason that Jesus had to stay dead for

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three days is, after three days, you really did know that someone

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was dead. Otherwise, back then, they didn't have the medical

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know how to know whether or not for sure someone was dead.

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Because every now and then someone would just fall into such

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a deep coma that they thought they were dead, but they weren't

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really and so they would give them three days in the legal

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system, it wasn't until three days that you knew that someone

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really was dead. And so or two, I thought it was three days, I

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was gonna say or two days, whatever it was, Jesus passed

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that point. And then he rose in order to prove that he really

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was dead, you know, by their legal system. But of course, you

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know, he everything that he did was also a spiritual example to

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us of what we're getting, we can expect and go through. So when

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we go through a death, when we in other words, when we let

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something go, there's usually time between the end, and then

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and then the resurrection and walking in more in the power of

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the freedom that we've had. And then what that time is, is it's

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considered basically the burial time or the time in which you're

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proving that you really do own that ground. You really, you

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really did do what you know, it really did happen, you know, etc.

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So anyway, that's kind of that's also what happened with Jesus

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when he was going through the wilderness for 40 days, is he

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was proving that it that what Jesus had what God had declared

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over him at when he was baptized by john the baptist in the end

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that you know, the Holy Spirit came down on him and everything

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and he said, This is my son in whom I'm well pleased. He

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declared over him, this is who you are. And then Jesus had to

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go through a time in which it was proven that he already was

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the thing, not not, he wasn't fighting to be the thing. He was

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simply having to go through a time in which he was proving that

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he already was the thing, which enabled him to go through this,

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this, the the wilderness time in, in strength. So anyway, that

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it so it the burial time.

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is nothing, excuse me, is nothing to be afraid of because what it's proving is it's not proving that

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you won the court case. It's proving that you really did let it go. Yeah. So you're going

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through this time that is, it almost feels like a test and it's not God testing us like, oh,

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let's see if it really did happen. Let's see if it's really true, but rather kind of like a, um,

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a it's, it's called proofing something when you, when you put something like through fire or you

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put it up through all of these, like, uh, when, when they'll create materials and factories and

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they'll put in through tests, simply doing is there simply, um, it's what they call proofing

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it. They're, they are, I don't know how to describe it. It's they're proving that it

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really is true. They're not seeing if it really is true. Yeah. So, and it's called proofing it,

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and then they can make their claims and all of that good stuff. So anyway, so you've already

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done the thing and now you're simply going through proving in the spiritual realm. No,

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I really am. This is now who I am. This is the choice. My flesh really did die. Yeah. It wasn't

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fake. It wasn't. I hope so. I wish so it really did happen. I am now spirit in this area. And then

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you know that based off of how you're responding during this time. And so, but it's still a trial.

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In other words, it's still a struggle because you have a habit, you know, meaning like we all do

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of like the old man, whenever we're triggered in this situation. So this time you're like, nope,

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I've got to remember that I'm actually not that anymore. And I really did die. I really did let

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this thing go to the Lord. And that's how I felt. I like panicked. And then I went up and I was like,

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it's okay. It's okay that you felt scared and that you froze, but you don't have to,

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because God's got this like, exactly. And so that is what was different to me. And even like today,

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when I was speaking to Christiana and, um, um, when I was, when I was speaking to like Christiana

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and Eric and he was like, pretty much verbalizing and making something solid in, in, oh, this is a

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way moving forward of things that I've been. And it was just interesting. Cause it's the whole,

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like being dying to the whole like dream of America. And all of a sudden he's like, Hey,

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I don't know if moving to America is something you would ever want to do. But if you do like,

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Hey, we can start like an LLC together. And like, we'll just do this together and create this so,

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so that we can, you know, but you can start in Norway first. And if you want to wait with all

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of this and you're not in a space of dreaming. And I'm like, you know what? I'm like, God gave

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me a word for November and that was dream. And I'm going to dream regardless of this. Yeah. He

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gave me that in January. Yeah. You know, January 11th, he was like dream. Yeah. So, um, so I was

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like, you know what? I'm going to dream. And this is just going to have to like take its course on

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the side because regardless God's got me and he has a plan for this. So it's like, whether it's

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this or this, it's like, it's, it's going to be okay. Yeah. Now what business do you want to do?

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You told me before, but I don't remember that was like months ago. Well, that's the thing that I

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haven't. Cause he's like, Oh, it looks like you starting your own company first. And I was like,

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well, I have my own company, but, but that's more about investment stuff. So I want to learn about

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that so that I can learn how to, you know, how sometimes people invest and then you can like

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take out an, an, an, an income from that just from like investing in stocks and stuff like that. So

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I want to learn more about that. Yeah. But then I think I just, I was speaking to my friend right

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before now she came by and she's like, no, cause I was like, Oh, maybe I should start another

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company under them. She's like, no, I think I would just start one separate. So I think I'm

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going to do that. Just need to think of a cool name. Yeah. And it's always best to keep stuff

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like that separate because otherwise legally one can affect the other. Yeah. And that's what I'm

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thinking, especially since yeah. Yeah. And especially since this will be like

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cooperating with the States as well, like it's going to look different.

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So what she has, so they have a company called do less management and do less production. So

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she does music management and he just like film and advertising and stuff like that.

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And so I've pretty much been working with them for three years, but just kind of like on a

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volunteer basis basis. So there hasn't been any like income or anything like this, but I just

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have a lot of fun with them. And so we do like songwriting camps and stuff like that. And we

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really want to like create songs to then have you know, pit put in movies and, and advertising like

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sync essentially. So.

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that part of it, I would love to be a part of. So actually, what

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we're looking at is then actually buying a house

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together to flip. Okay, like, you know, so he's, he's talking

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to somebody who just like flip to it's called flip to freedom.

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But we'd like to find a house that we can like, fix up, and

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then have it as a place to have songwriting camps, and then have

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a studio in there. And then when these things that you know, if

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this like starts, because then you can pay rent to yourself,

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which would go into the company. And I don't know how all of a

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sudden, it just started to seem like a possibility. And, and

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with me living here, we have a lot of government funds, both

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for like music for film. And since I live here, I can apply

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for it. So I could apply to like, maybe take some people

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with me to go to like a conference or to go to like a

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writing thing in the States, you know, and they would give grants

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for that, because they want to so into culture, and they, so I

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just have to like find and learn about these different things.

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But it was just cool, because it's things that I've been

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thinking about, like, oh, I want to have my own company and, and

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do like writing and do music and do all of this, but I don't know

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what it's gonna look like. And I don't know how. And then here I

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have these people that I really like, and that are also like, so

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Christiana used to work with like Taylor Swift, like the he

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she's now working in a studio with another Norwegian guy that

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I know, and they're on like, Justin Bieber's extended team. So

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it's like, it's like fun people. They're working. You know what I

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mean? So it's just like, oh, all of a sudden, I don't know. And I

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feel like God's just dropped me in it. Because it wasn't nothing

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I really ever like, have been thinking about. So yeah, that's

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but look at all things to answer your question. It looks like I

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would always, one of my things has been, I would love to create

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things that brings freedom to people, whether that's through

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like music, film, whatever, like, I would just love to be

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like a freedom fighter. Yeah, but I love the creative stuff.

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Yeah, yeah.

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That's really great. You're at all of the opportunities and how

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you're feeling and how you're doing and then the hopefulness

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and what you're looking at the future compared to how you felt

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back in like, January or February and everything. Yeah,

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exciting.

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Yeah. And I think if we would have like, if she wouldn't have

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appealed, I was like, then I'm gonna quit my job just now. And

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then just like, take it as it comes. And I'm like, well, maybe

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I'll just wait a little bit longer and just like play. And I

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think that has to do with currently, it would still just be

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like, get me out of here. You know what I mean? Like, and I

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don't I think I'm supposed to be at a different place, maybe

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stay there until it's sold or something. It just doesn't feel

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quite finished yet.

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That's good to know. You know, that you don't feel that. Sorry,

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there's this huge wasp. And that you don't feel like things are

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quite finished. So so that you can know for yourself. Okay, you

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know, I think I'm supposed to be here. Come on. Yeah. Sorry, I've

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had a we I've had a we had a swarm the other day of these

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things. And so anyway, Oh, the wasp came back. He's fine. Um,

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so that's great. I'm so glad. And, and it sounds like you're

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doing really good, especially after the news today, which is

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huge for you to feel that way. Because what it is that I walk

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people through, and I was talking to Ed about this last

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night, that the thing that I really walk people through is

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not always just how to handle things. But really, because

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every now and then I give, you know, people wondering, well,

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how do I handle this, that and the other situation? You know,

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from a place of rest, how do I actually handle it? But mainly

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what I do is I just help people, you know, understand, how do you

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shift into rest while going through this situation? Not

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really, how do you act? How do you things to actually do in

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this situation? And so anyway, it sounds like you are handling

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this really, really with the Lord. And it's interesting,

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isn't it how big of a change that it can make inside of us

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just by shifting our, our shifting our, our faith, you

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know, just like, okay, Lord, you know, do in other words, doing

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something so simple, it's hard to do. But it's honestly,

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extremely simple. It's not complex to have all of these

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bells and whistles and all these levers you have to pull at the

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right moment. You know, it's just very simple. It's good. So

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God said, just believe me, what did I say, stand on what I said.

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And that it's, it's just that simple thing. It's a challenge

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to do, but it's simple. And then when we do that, it's wild how

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much our life changes. And we are expecting that if our if we

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want our life to change majorly, well, then it's going to take a

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complex set of scenarios in order to fix it, or in order to

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fix how we feel and it's not. And and also, it lets us know

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that we can, you know, by having

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And by having this experience, you know, like you have, it lets us know that the, um, that

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these situations are, uh, that you, that you don't have to have these situations go away

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in order to be okay, that you can be okay.

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And in freedom, even while going through the situation to the fact that we've always thought,

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you know, growing up that, Oh my word, in order to be free, the situation has to go

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away.

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It's to prove to us, no, your freedom has nothing to do with the situation.

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I never want you to feel enslaved based on your situation.

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Yeah.

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That's great.

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I'm very excited for you.

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I am too.

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Thanks.

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Well, Priscilla, I love your Magnolia Waco shirt.

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Thank you.

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Annette, are you aware of, of, of Magnolia, you know, Chip and Joanna Gaines?

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Um,

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Oh yeah.

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Oh yeah.

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I didn't make the connection, but yeah, I do know about there.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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So Priscilla came down to Texas.

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I don't know, a few months ago, something like that.

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Uh, January.

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Yeah.

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Oh, it's January.

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Yeah.

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I had Texas in my house this weekend.

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That's right.

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Awesome.

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Yeah.

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I know that you had fun with your friend.

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That's great that she was like, Oh, but you, so you bought the t-shirt when you were down

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there.

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That's in Waco, right?

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Yeah.

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That is.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Which is about, uh, an hour and five, two hours from me, I think something like that

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north of Dallas.

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Oh, okay.

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Do you still have the house guests, Priscilla?

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Yes.

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I do.

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Oh, that's what we were going to be talking about.

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Yeah.

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She came on, um, uh, I think I might move over a little bit.

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I'm like really close to my door.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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She came last.

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So she arrived in Pennsylvania on Thursday, but then she didn't come to our house until

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Friday.

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Um, and, or no, Saturday we got home from Montana on Friday.

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Um, and then, so she came Saturday and she has been here ever since and she plans to

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leave on, um, sorry, let me see if I can put this into full screen.

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She plans to leave on Monday.

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Um, okay.

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So yeah, it's a long trip.

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Yeah, it is.

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She's here for about a week.

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And so she is somebody who had reached out to me on Instagram.

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Like I think we've been talking for the last six months, something like that.

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She's a very conservative Mennonite from, uh, Virginia.

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And so she's like a beachy Mennonite and comes from a very controlling family, very controlling

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church, all the things.

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And, um, she was a victim of child rape and that was like 13 years ago.

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And so she had blocked that from her memory, but then she, uh, started, she started having

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flashbacks and stuff like a year and a half ago.

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Um, and before that she had been sent to like this, um, ministry here in Pennsylvania that's

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run by like the charity Mennonite people.

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I don't know if you would be familiar with any of them, Ashley, but, um, anyway, she

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was there for a year.

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They were, she was so controlled there that it was like, I would, I would, um, equate

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it to like spiritual abuse and mental abuse.

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Um, she had a lot of really scary spiritual experiences there, like demonic manifestations,

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um, to, and she was completely new to the spiritual world.

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Like her church is extremely, um, they're, they're not, they don't believe in it.

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Well, I mean, I think they would say they believe in it, but they don't believe in like,

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um, she would never have been comfortable with the Holy spirit or like any, any gifts

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of the spirit.

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Um, so then to throw her into that, it was like, Oh my, I felt so bad for her.

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Um, so anyway, she was there for a year.

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She felt like she had found some healing there.

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Like not everything that it was bad.

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They just had no training and they were, they like, it was just this couple that had never

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had any kids.

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They had, didn't have any training when it came to, um, sexual abuse and all of the girls

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that were coming to this home had horrible home lives, had some, you know, a lot of them

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had sexual abuse, but yeah, no formal training.

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And um, so, you know, a lot of things that can look like demonic manifestations, like

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panic attacks and flashbacks, you know, all those things.

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I agree that, you know, the, the demonic spiritual realm is very real, but your body is also

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capable of doing a lot without it being a demonic manifestation.

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Um, so anyway, so she came home, then stuff started coming out about this

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place that it's not great.

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And then, um, and then she felt betrayed.

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She's like, oh my goodness here.

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She thought that she would, she got help here and now she's finding out that it

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was just another place that she was controlled and manipulated and so anyway.

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And then after that, after that year is then when she started having

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flashbacks about her abuse and, um, that's not the only thing that has

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happened to her, but, um, anyway.

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And so then I forget, she started messaging me about six months ago.

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Um, she was very suicidal at one point and then she came, um, I would tell

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her sometimes I'm like, Hey, like, if you ever just want to come to Pennsylvania

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for a little bit of a reprieve, like just come and we'd love to have you.

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And anyway, so she ended up coming.

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She had a wedding.

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So he knows a lot of people here.

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Cause she lived here for a year when she went to that ministry thing.

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Um, and so, and she had a, I think I told you this Ashley, but she has a

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friend named Priscilla that lives in the area, so she told her parents

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that she's staying with Priscilla, but she didn't tell them which Priscilla.

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And keep in mind, she's 23.

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Like she's an adult, but the poor girl has been so controlled

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and so manipulated her whole life.

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Like, I feel like she's just now starting to realize that she can maybe

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actually have a different life.

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Yeah.

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So when she came, it was good.

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Like she she's great.

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We love her.

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She has a great personality.

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She's really funny.

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And like, just, but she, she hates herself.

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She has so much self hatred.

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Um, but she, um, so she started saying things that made me feel

464
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like she was being threatened.

465
00:26:41.600 --> 00:26:46.240
Um, and I was starting to be very concerned and, um, she was terrified

466
00:26:46.240 --> 00:26:48.640
that the person that was threatening her, it was an online scam.

467
00:26:49.160 --> 00:26:52.360
Um, so like they had stole thousands of dollars from her bank account.

468
00:26:52.400 --> 00:26:54.640
Um, so it was like, they got her debit card number because of a

469
00:26:54.640 --> 00:26:55.960
link she clicked on or whatever.

470
00:26:56.520 --> 00:26:57.840
And then stole house.

471
00:26:58.320 --> 00:27:01.120
Since the dollars from her bank account, while this person somehow they had

472
00:27:01.120 --> 00:27:04.440
been, they had been messaging her on Instagram for like six, the period

473
00:27:04.440 --> 00:27:09.080
over like six months, and I feel like with being raised the way she was

474
00:27:09.080 --> 00:27:13.600
and not being very tech wise, she didn't know to just like block communication.

475
00:27:14.120 --> 00:27:17.560
Um, and so she would like talk to them and kind of like, I think she's

476
00:27:17.560 --> 00:27:20.920
shared a little bit of personal information, like about her past.

477
00:27:20.920 --> 00:27:24.360
And then they started using that against her, like saying,

478
00:27:24.600 --> 00:27:25.760
threatening her with that.

479
00:27:25.760 --> 00:27:29.400
And I think that combined with all of the trauma that she's gone through and

480
00:27:29.400 --> 00:27:34.760
all of the fear from that experience, she started believing that this person

481
00:27:34.760 --> 00:27:37.080
was her rapist, like from when she was 10.

482
00:27:37.680 --> 00:27:43.440
And so, and she couldn't even the poor girl, like she can't even when she

483
00:27:43.440 --> 00:27:46.640
tries to talk about what happened, like she's literally curls up in a

484
00:27:46.640 --> 00:27:47.480
fetal position.

485
00:27:47.480 --> 00:27:50.400
And like, it's, it's really, really hard to watch.

486
00:27:51.120 --> 00:27:52.560
So anyway, that all happened.

487
00:27:53.640 --> 00:27:56.280
She finally told me about all that stuff Tuesday night.

488
00:27:56.560 --> 00:28:01.040
Um, and that night, Oh my word.

489
00:28:01.040 --> 00:28:01.800
It was awful.

490
00:28:02.320 --> 00:28:05.120
I did not fall asleep till probably 6 00 AM.

491
00:28:05.200 --> 00:28:08.800
And I was so affected by now.

492
00:28:08.800 --> 00:28:12.240
I feel like I've learned so much through it because at that time I was like, okay,

493
00:28:12.240 --> 00:28:13.560
are we dealing with a real threat?

494
00:28:13.920 --> 00:28:16.720
Or am I like, is this the spirit of fear?

495
00:28:17.160 --> 00:28:20.880
And now looking back, I'm like, okay, it was clearly the spirit of fear

496
00:28:20.880 --> 00:28:22.600
because it was overwhelming.

497
00:28:22.640 --> 00:28:27.840
Like my whole body was like feeling it and I was terrified.

498
00:28:27.920 --> 00:28:31.880
And I feel like if it would have been a real threat, like the Lord would have

499
00:28:31.880 --> 00:28:34.960
given us clear direction and would have been like, do this, do this, do this.

500
00:28:35.640 --> 00:28:39.880
And yeah, but it was, I think the spirit of fear was just really at work.

501
00:28:40.360 --> 00:28:45.760
So anyway, um, I actually called my neighbor at like 3 AM because that was

502
00:28:45.760 --> 00:28:50.040
after she had gone to bed, but I was like, you have to tell me what to do

503
00:28:50.040 --> 00:28:53.920
because she's also been, um, she was trafficked and all kinds of things.

504
00:28:53.920 --> 00:28:55.680
And so she knows a lot about this world.

505
00:28:56.240 --> 00:29:01.080
Um, but then the next day we called a counselor that we had just seen.

506
00:29:01.120 --> 00:29:03.440
So Tuesday night, Arnold and I actually went to this class.

507
00:29:03.440 --> 00:29:07.240
Ashley was telling you about that called equipped to counsel and very

508
00:29:07.240 --> 00:29:08.360
spirit led people.

509
00:29:08.360 --> 00:29:10.200
Like, we felt so good about it.

510
00:29:10.200 --> 00:29:11.720
Like, I was just like, this is awesome.

511
00:29:11.720 --> 00:29:17.680
Like they have the tools, but they're very, um, they do it from a spirit led

512
00:29:17.680 --> 00:29:18.040
place.

513
00:29:18.040 --> 00:29:20.760
Like, it's not like get equipped to counsel so that you can do this.

514
00:29:20.760 --> 00:29:26.000
It's more like if the Lord calls you to do this, do it, but you don't need

515
00:29:26.000 --> 00:29:26.960
that in order to help people.

516
00:29:26.960 --> 00:29:27.560
And I was like, wow.

517
00:29:27.560 --> 00:29:27.760
Okay.

518
00:29:27.760 --> 00:29:28.560
I love these people.

519
00:29:29.040 --> 00:29:33.840
Um, but anyway, so we called him then the next day and I told him a little bit of

520
00:29:33.840 --> 00:29:34.440
what was going on.

521
00:29:34.440 --> 00:29:38.200
And he was like, at this point, because she's saying somebody's threatening her,

522
00:29:38.200 --> 00:29:40.200
you have to get the police involved.

523
00:29:40.200 --> 00:29:43.880
And so we did, and I was, I was terrified, Ashley.

524
00:29:43.880 --> 00:29:47.360
Like, I was so afraid she was going to hate me forever, but I was just like,

525
00:29:47.440 --> 00:29:49.000
you can't stay at our house.

526
00:29:49.080 --> 00:29:53.360
If we are not sure that there's no threat to your life or ours.

527
00:29:54.000 --> 00:30:00.040
And so, um, we sat her down and I was like, because of this, like we are.

528
00:30:00.000 --> 00:30:04.560
to have to call the police and I said you are an adult and so I can't force you to do this

529
00:30:05.120 --> 00:30:08.320
but if you're not willing to then you're going to have to find somewhere else to stay

530
00:30:09.120 --> 00:30:13.600
and but we want you here like we want to keep you here as long as we know we can keep you safe

531
00:30:15.040 --> 00:30:18.720
so and she agreed to it like it was oh my word it was so hard for her like

532
00:30:18.720 --> 00:30:26.160
Mennonite people do not call the police ever and so anyway and then we had to wait like three hours

533
00:30:26.240 --> 00:30:30.480
for the police to show up because we don't have a police force in our town so we have to wait for

534
00:30:30.480 --> 00:30:36.720
the state police to come anyway so but then it was amazing because after we did that so it took

535
00:30:36.720 --> 00:30:42.320
her probably about an hour to like recover from us telling her that and then it was like this

536
00:30:42.320 --> 00:30:48.160
huge weight had lifted off of her and she started like talking and like talking to Arnold and I it

537
00:30:48.160 --> 00:30:54.400
was just Arnold and I at home and she just like I was like wow okay and then when the trooper came

538
00:30:54.400 --> 00:31:00.880
he was so kind and he was a dad and he and and he actually by the end of the conversation had

539
00:31:01.840 --> 00:31:06.640
convinced her to file a report with her police station at home about what happened to her 10

540
00:31:06.640 --> 00:31:16.000
years ago or 13 years ago which is like that is huge and he told her I I felt like the love of

541
00:31:16.000 --> 00:31:20.800
God was coming through her whether he knew it or not like the love of a father was coming through

542
00:31:20.800 --> 00:31:26.720
to her even though he was still very professional he was just like I'm a dad he's like if my daughter

543
00:31:26.720 --> 00:31:31.120
would come to me with something like this he would tell her to go for blood you know he's like this

544
00:31:31.120 --> 00:31:35.520
is not okay and he point blank told her he's like people who do this kind of thing are not good

545
00:31:35.520 --> 00:31:40.640
people they're not your friends and he's like and and I felt like it was kind of like a reality

546
00:31:40.640 --> 00:31:45.040
check for her like why am I trying to protect these people like they don't deserve to be

547
00:31:45.040 --> 00:31:50.080
protected when they do things like this they need to have the consequences and and plus they're just

548
00:31:50.080 --> 00:31:56.560
going to keep abusing you know if nobody speaks up so her parents don't know have no clue I think

549
00:31:56.560 --> 00:32:05.360
her parents know that that she was raped but they were very like um critical as far as like well why

550
00:32:05.360 --> 00:32:10.160
didn't you come to us sooner and like they're not a safe place and the first time money was stolen

551
00:32:10.160 --> 00:32:16.800
from her her dad completely flew into a rage and he was so mad at her like how could you be so dumb

552
00:32:16.800 --> 00:32:22.400
and let this happen and even though the reason that she even gave these people her information

553
00:32:22.400 --> 00:32:27.520
was because they were threatening her about her dad and that's often how these scams work like

554
00:32:27.520 --> 00:32:31.680
they will find information about you on the internet who you're associated with and they'll

555
00:32:31.680 --> 00:32:36.400
be like they they can find who your father is on the internet so easily and be like we have this

556
00:32:36.400 --> 00:32:41.360
information and it was about you know how her dad is I guess he's been pretty abusive through the

557
00:32:41.360 --> 00:32:46.080
years and they're like unless you give us money we're going to make sure that all this gets out

558
00:32:46.080 --> 00:32:51.600
you know so anyway the poor thing was trying to protect her dad and then you know I don't know if

559
00:32:51.600 --> 00:32:59.200
he knows all that stuff but anyway so we got through that and then by the end of the conversation

560
00:32:59.200 --> 00:33:05.200
with the police officer we were like okay like we can safely say this is not a real person like this

561
00:33:05.200 --> 00:33:09.680
is not her abuser this is not a real threat that we need to be concerned about she just needs to

562
00:33:09.680 --> 00:33:13.840
maybe change her phone number change her bank account information and be more careful on the

563
00:33:13.840 --> 00:33:22.800
internet so then after that it was like so much better like she was so happy and her and I went

564
00:33:22.800 --> 00:33:30.720
out for pedicures last night and um I remember like through all of this she yesterday morning

565
00:33:30.720 --> 00:33:36.320
before we ended up having to call the police she just kept saying over and over again she's like

566
00:33:37.040 --> 00:33:42.160
she's just not used to being this cared for like she's not used to being she's not used to feeling

567
00:33:42.160 --> 00:33:48.800
this safe like it's actually like a lot for her to process and accept correct so she told her

568
00:33:48.800 --> 00:33:54.000
parents they criticized her when she told her parents about the about the issue with the um the

569
00:33:54.000 --> 00:33:59.280
scam they criticized her so it's just like no she's not used to someone protecting her and be

570
00:33:59.280 --> 00:34:03.120
like no this isn't right we're going to call the police you deserve to be taken care of

571
00:34:04.000 --> 00:34:10.880
that's a huge thing to process yeah yeah so now today I can tell that she's like thinking about

572
00:34:10.880 --> 00:34:16.159
things I'm not sure what and I feel like I'm not sure that I should dig into it I'm just kind of

573
00:34:16.159 --> 00:34:22.639
giving her space tonight we're actually going to a church thing um there's a lady coming to speak

574
00:34:22.639 --> 00:34:27.040
about sound mind awareness so I'm kind of hoping that the lord's going to use some of these things

575
00:34:27.040 --> 00:34:34.000
to wrap up some like loose ends that she's probably she thinks like she is constantly thinking and

576
00:34:34.000 --> 00:34:39.199
constantly trying to reconcile stuff in her mind like I know that one day the lord is going to be

577
00:34:39.199 --> 00:34:44.000
is going to call her into ministry like there's no question but I mean I don't even tell her that

578
00:34:44.000 --> 00:34:51.199
because I know she's like she doesn't see it at all but I mean she is she connects the dots like

579
00:34:51.199 --> 00:34:58.480
between people do and why so anyway yeah I feel like I'm still very affected by all this because

580
00:34:58.480 --> 00:34:59.840
literally as soon as I started talking

581
00:35:00.000 --> 00:35:06.420
Like my whole body is like tense and I'm shaking extremely behind in sleep.

582
00:35:07.160 --> 00:35:07.680
I know.

583
00:35:08.520 --> 00:35:08.900
Yeah.

584
00:35:08.960 --> 00:35:16.800
So yeah, there's my life and I'm homeschooling and I'm doing business and I

585
00:35:16.800 --> 00:35:21.360
literally don't know what to do with my seven-year-old and I don't know if we can

586
00:35:21.360 --> 00:35:23.920
get through the school year and I want to send him to school.

587
00:35:24.000 --> 00:35:26.280
So there's that.

588
00:35:30.880 --> 00:35:32.920
I, I did, I did discover.

589
00:35:33.320 --> 00:35:34.480
So did I ask you this?

590
00:35:34.480 --> 00:35:36.600
Maybe have you heard of the disc profile?

591
00:35:37.040 --> 00:35:37.320
Oh yeah.

592
00:35:37.840 --> 00:35:38.280
Okay.

593
00:35:38.320 --> 00:35:40.680
So I had like this light bulb moment.

594
00:35:40.680 --> 00:35:43.880
Arnold and I have never done the disc until we were doing this class at church

595
00:35:43.880 --> 00:35:45.440
about how to understand the love of your life.

596
00:35:45.440 --> 00:35:54.560
And I all of a sudden realized that Monty is a high D like extremely, yes.

597
00:35:54.600 --> 00:35:59.280
And I, that personality type irritates me.

598
00:36:01.400 --> 00:36:02.040
That's me.

599
00:36:02.480 --> 00:36:03.280
Oh, you're a D.

600
00:36:03.280 --> 00:36:04.920
I'm a very high D, very high D.

601
00:36:04.920 --> 00:36:07.000
I just, I am a very high D.

602
00:36:07.160 --> 00:36:10.160
That's how I was able to do business with mostly only men.

603
00:36:12.320 --> 00:36:14.280
I'm going to need more explanation on that.

604
00:36:14.480 --> 00:36:19.720
High D, I see my I and my S can be almost negligible.

605
00:36:20.680 --> 00:36:22.640
I've had to compensate though.

606
00:36:22.920 --> 00:36:24.880
And you know, the Lord's had to heal me a lot.

607
00:36:24.880 --> 00:36:31.760
And so the guy who gave me the desk and he's a professional at this, this is what

608
00:36:31.760 --> 00:36:33.480
he does, he gives people the desk.

609
00:36:33.480 --> 00:36:36.920
He, he's a team builder for like Disney and Microsoft and all this stuff.

610
00:36:37.240 --> 00:36:41.440
And so he gave it to me and he, I was with him one time taking a class with him

611
00:36:41.440 --> 00:36:45.560
when he was telling a whole bunch of nine one, one dispatchers, he said, Hey, by

612
00:36:45.560 --> 00:36:49.440
the way, and you see the lady in the back of the room there, he said, she, he

613
00:36:49.440 --> 00:36:52.120
said, you would never know it if you interact with her.

614
00:36:52.120 --> 00:36:55.840
He said, she's a very high D, high C, you know, she's a DC.

615
00:36:55.840 --> 00:36:58.680
And then he said her I and her S are almost negligible.

616
00:36:59.000 --> 00:37:02.000
So by the way, Annette, are you familiar with D with the desk?

617
00:37:02.440 --> 00:37:03.720
Uh, program profile.

618
00:37:03.800 --> 00:37:09.320
I'm familiar with it, but I'm not to the point where I could say what, what

619
00:37:09.320 --> 00:37:15.880
like all the letters are dominant and C is high detail.

620
00:37:15.880 --> 00:37:19.440
And then I is something like influential or something like that.

621
00:37:19.800 --> 00:37:21.160
Um, they love people.

622
00:37:21.240 --> 00:37:24.600
They love, um, they, they love interacting with other people.

623
00:37:24.880 --> 00:37:26.520
Social things are very important to them.

624
00:37:26.520 --> 00:37:30.720
And then an S means basically steady, steadfast, very dependable,

625
00:37:30.720 --> 00:37:32.520
very consistent, et cetera.

626
00:37:32.800 --> 00:37:33.760
So, which is funny.

627
00:37:33.760 --> 00:37:36.720
I am very dependable and consistent, but I love spontaneity.

628
00:37:36.880 --> 00:37:41.200
So anyway, but the thing is that he told him, he said, Ashley is a perfect

629
00:37:41.200 --> 00:37:45.480
example of what it's like when you fully commit yourself to the Lord, because

630
00:37:45.520 --> 00:37:50.080
he said, you would never guess she's the DC, but she doesn't act like,

631
00:37:50.840 --> 00:37:53.240
so I'm like, that's a really encouraging.

632
00:37:53.720 --> 00:37:55.120
Think about it anyway.

633
00:37:55.360 --> 00:37:55.560
Yeah.

634
00:37:55.560 --> 00:37:56.200
You'd never know.

635
00:37:56.440 --> 00:37:59.360
I'm a very, very high D and, and that's the thing.

636
00:37:59.400 --> 00:38:03.120
Like I feel too, like I always take these like personality things with a grain of

637
00:38:03.120 --> 00:38:05.840
salt because I feel like, yeah, it helps us understand people.

638
00:38:05.840 --> 00:38:10.200
And yet, you know, like you said, fully committed to the Lord is like, it takes

639
00:38:10.200 --> 00:38:13.720
care of a lot of the, um, challenges with the different types or whatever.

640
00:38:13.720 --> 00:38:19.280
But Monty like, and I, I think I used to think he's more like me and I'm extremely

641
00:38:19.280 --> 00:38:19.680
high.

642
00:38:19.720 --> 00:38:26.120
I and Arnold extremely high S and aren't both of those people motivated.

643
00:38:26.160 --> 00:38:27.960
I think if I remember right.

644
00:38:28.160 --> 00:38:29.200
I definitely is.

645
00:38:29.200 --> 00:38:30.600
And S is a little bit big.

646
00:38:30.600 --> 00:38:31.840
Yeah, it's somewhat.

647
00:38:31.880 --> 00:38:32.120
Yeah.

648
00:38:32.200 --> 00:38:32.520
Yeah.

649
00:38:32.720 --> 00:38:36.320
But anyway, and I just kind of like a light bulb went off in my head.

650
00:38:36.320 --> 00:38:39.280
Cause I think I'd always thought Monty is so much like me, but then he would do

651
00:38:39.280 --> 00:38:41.920
things that were just like, where does this go?

652
00:38:42.200 --> 00:38:43.200
Why would you do that?

653
00:38:43.240 --> 00:38:45.120
Like, why anyway?

654
00:38:45.120 --> 00:38:50.520
And I'm realizing he likes to be in charge and I don't think it's just a kid thing.

655
00:38:50.520 --> 00:38:56.600
Like our other kids are not like that as much, but we are literally like this all

656
00:38:56.680 --> 00:38:57.600
day long.

657
00:38:57.640 --> 00:39:01.360
And I'm at the point where I'm like, I don't even know what to do.

658
00:39:01.520 --> 00:39:05.320
Like, I feel like one of those, one of those books you read where parents are like,

659
00:39:05.840 --> 00:39:09.120
all of a sudden we realized that everything we had done through the years was wrong.

660
00:39:09.120 --> 00:39:10.680
And here was the proof, you know?

661
00:39:10.680 --> 00:39:15.080
And like with them, we had to like go for therapy and, and, and all this stuff.

662
00:39:15.080 --> 00:39:21.040
And I'm just like, I, I am, I know I'm further ahead in my parenting to realize

663
00:39:21.040 --> 00:39:26.440
that obedience is not everything, but I also feel like, how in the heck are we

664
00:39:26.440 --> 00:39:28.080
supposed to have a peace filled home?

665
00:39:28.520 --> 00:39:31.400
If he doesn't realize that our authority means something.

666
00:39:31.400 --> 00:39:33.040
And how do I get him to realize that?

667
00:39:34.200 --> 00:39:36.160
Like, I don't even know.

668
00:39:36.200 --> 00:39:41.320
Like, I am like, how can parenting be this incredibly hard?

669
00:39:42.000 --> 00:39:45.240
So anyway, yeah.

670
00:39:46.360 --> 00:39:47.440
So you're going through a lot.

671
00:39:48.160 --> 00:39:48.520
Yeah.

672
00:39:49.120 --> 00:39:49.440
Yeah.

673
00:39:50.680 --> 00:39:57.760
So how are you like, I mean, I know that you're everything that you described is,

674
00:39:57.760 --> 00:39:59.960
you know, it's a lot, it can feel very overwhelming and be.

675
00:40:00.000 --> 00:40:06.160
okay, I'm navigating all of these things. So what are you feeling? Where, how do you feel like you

676
00:40:06.160 --> 00:40:11.600
are right now? Um, with the Lord in handling all of these things, like, okay, well, all these things

677
00:40:11.600 --> 00:40:16.480
are hard and we all have to navigate them because you still have, even when we're in rest, you have

678
00:40:16.480 --> 00:40:23.200
to navigate, you have to navigate through chaos in rest. So the chaos is still there. So how are

679
00:40:23.200 --> 00:40:29.280
you, how do you feel that you are in the midst of all of this? You know, where do you find your

680
00:40:29.280 --> 00:40:34.720
challenges where you feel encouraged and like, you know what, I can see a change, but I can't

681
00:40:34.720 --> 00:40:43.200
seem to pass the threshold here or. Yeah. Well, I think I'm unsure of what to, what to label

682
00:40:44.080 --> 00:40:51.600
as change. Like, because I think I've been gauging it by like Monty's behavior when it comes to like

683
00:40:51.600 --> 00:40:55.760
things with Monty, I'm always like, well, okay, in order for this to improve, like something has

684
00:40:55.760 --> 00:41:00.480
changed with the behavior piece. And that just hasn't changed. I feel like it like today was

685
00:41:00.480 --> 00:41:06.240
just awful. And I realized that our schedule has been off and that's probably part of it.

686
00:41:07.200 --> 00:41:15.120
But at the same time, I'm just like, I don't know. So I think as far as my relationship with the Lord,

687
00:41:15.120 --> 00:41:22.720
I, I feel secure in that. And I know like the Lord has given me a lot of like, I feel like I'm in my

688
00:41:22.720 --> 00:41:27.120
element when I am, you know, when I'm talking to Monica and ministering to her and just anybody.

689
00:41:28.960 --> 00:41:36.080
And I did notice that with her, I'm not, I'm not scared, like, and not just her, but the people

690
00:41:36.080 --> 00:41:40.800
that I've been ministering to in the last two months, I haven't been scared to be like, this

691
00:41:40.800 --> 00:41:46.240
is what I believe. And I haven't been scared to like like one thing that I did with her was she,

692
00:41:46.240 --> 00:41:51.440
she often says like, what other people think of something like that's what she'll say. Like,

693
00:41:51.440 --> 00:41:55.840
well, people back home think this and this and this, and I'm like, okay, but what do you say?

694
00:41:55.840 --> 00:42:00.480
Yeah. And she knows the truth. Like she knows it. And that's what I tell her. I'm like,

695
00:42:00.480 --> 00:42:05.760
you know, you are born again. Like you have the Holy spirit within you and you in Christ together,

696
00:42:05.760 --> 00:42:13.680
like, you know, the truth and you can speak that you, you don't have to be defined by what other

697
00:42:13.680 --> 00:42:19.840
people think anymore. Like you get to say what the truth is because you know, the truth anyway,

698
00:42:19.840 --> 00:42:26.160
but it's so many huge steps for her. I mean, it just huge. And so that part, I feel like, wow,

699
00:42:26.160 --> 00:42:32.880
okay, I've made a lot of progress. But I feel like probably what's lacking for me right now

700
00:42:32.880 --> 00:42:40.480
is like personal care from the Lord to me. And yet I feel cared through for through all of it.

701
00:42:40.480 --> 00:42:45.040
It's more just, it's more like a, a through flow and not, not like a, you know what I mean? Like,

702
00:42:45.040 --> 00:42:52.800
I feel like what he's giving me, I'm giving away, but I feel like maybe I'm not receiving it for

703
00:42:52.800 --> 00:43:01.120
yourself. Yeah. Yeah. That definitely makes sense. So have you done the practices that I've talked

704
00:43:01.120 --> 00:43:06.560
about in the, in this program? Have you talked to, have you been doing those? I mean, I know

705
00:43:06.560 --> 00:43:12.480
that I did them like after each video. Yeah. I'm sure if I, I'm not sure if I've like done them

706
00:43:12.480 --> 00:43:19.440
since. Yeah. So the thing is that all of those are things that I do. Like when I need what you're

707
00:43:19.440 --> 00:43:26.240
talking about, when I need to receive something from the Lord and I need to stop focusing on

708
00:43:27.200 --> 00:43:33.280
my value, I need to stop putting my value in what I can give others and be for others and help

709
00:43:33.280 --> 00:43:36.880
others in and make sure they see about themselves in the Lord and make sure they feel about themselves

710
00:43:36.880 --> 00:43:42.320
in the Lord. But when I need to receive it, I do the things that I've, that I've, I do those

711
00:43:42.320 --> 00:43:49.680
practices, you know, that I outlined to y'all, because those are all about teaching us to receive

712
00:43:49.680 --> 00:43:55.200
instead of allowing ourselves to escape God, instead of allowing ourselves to like, you know,

713
00:43:55.200 --> 00:44:02.880
skirt around him and, and try to avoid him. It's we, we choose when we do this with those practices,

714
00:44:02.880 --> 00:44:08.080
we choose to face them and to face the thing that we fear, you know, because we're afraid,

715
00:44:08.080 --> 00:44:13.600
what is, what is God going to be like when he's with me? You know, how bad am I? Because we've

716
00:44:13.600 --> 00:44:20.320
all been told that God, that, that our interaction with God is based on how good or bad we are in the

717
00:44:20.320 --> 00:44:24.800
moment, you know, so are we going to get a really nice God or are we going to get a really mean God?

718
00:44:24.800 --> 00:44:30.720
Well, that all depends on you. What are you like right now? And so if we're always afraid of us,

719
00:44:30.720 --> 00:44:34.240
if we're always afraid, and I've been just taught and like beaten down that, Hey, you know,

720
00:44:34.240 --> 00:44:39.040
you're simple above all things. And you're whatever, well, then, but then we're always

721
00:44:39.040 --> 00:44:42.720
going to be afraid of like being with God. So what we have to do is we have to say, well,

722
00:44:42.720 --> 00:44:48.800
if God says he's different than I'm going to intentionally risk putting myself with him to get

723
00:44:48.800 --> 00:44:56.080
addicted to see what experience God wants to give me of himself, instead of being afraid of what

724
00:44:56.080 --> 00:44:59.840
it's going to be like, and then keeping trying to avoid it. So it forces it.

725
00:45:00.000 --> 00:45:07.360
but the things that I've talked about are ones that are ones that are especially safe.

726
00:45:07.360 --> 00:45:09.600
The ones that I've talked about in the breakthrough program, the ones that are

727
00:45:09.600 --> 00:45:14.080
especially safe. In other words, there are things where there's no agenda attached to them. It's

728
00:45:14.080 --> 00:45:21.200
just, Hey, there's no judgment. You go and sit with the Lord without an agenda and you just be

729
00:45:21.200 --> 00:45:27.760
in his presence. And while you are believing, this is one of the practices, you know, while

730
00:45:27.760 --> 00:45:32.880
you are choosing that he is who he says that he is, and that you are who he says that you are.

731
00:45:32.880 --> 00:45:39.280
And you just be in that moment in that reality, that that is actually true in the reality of that

732
00:45:39.280 --> 00:45:44.560
moment. He's everything he says he is. And I'm everything he says that I am without any,

733
00:45:44.560 --> 00:45:51.600
any, we don't allow any thoughts or any, any like, um, wanderings about, yeah, but what about,

734
00:45:51.600 --> 00:45:56.400
yeah, but we completely disregard those. We don't allow those to come into the moment.

735
00:45:56.400 --> 00:46:04.880
And we just completely make a choice with no doubt and no questioning and no, um, there's

736
00:46:04.880 --> 00:46:10.080
another word that I'm looking for, but no doubt and no questioning that what God says is true,

737
00:46:10.080 --> 00:46:15.520
really is true about himself and us. And then we sit there in that and it is wild, what we will

738
00:46:15.520 --> 00:46:22.080
learn and how that will heal us just those moments. Then there's also when you feel very,

739
00:46:22.080 --> 00:46:28.560
very negative, you feel mad, you feel afraid, you feel whatever, and allow yourself in the moment

740
00:46:28.560 --> 00:46:33.600
to feel the fullness of that feeling, and then go and sit with God, like literally,

741
00:46:33.600 --> 00:46:37.600
it's like kind of like sitting in the middle of him sitting in the middle of his presence,

742
00:46:37.600 --> 00:46:42.400
like imagine if his throne room was filled with like the glory of God, or afraid of going into

743
00:46:42.400 --> 00:46:48.640
the into that place. And then you in the purposely and intentionally while you're in the middle of

744
00:46:48.640 --> 00:46:52.960
battling this sin. And by battling it, I don't mean you're like fighting it. It's just like,

745
00:46:52.960 --> 00:46:59.760
you're feeling all this stuff. You're feeling you know, the fear and the anger and the whatever else

746
00:46:59.760 --> 00:47:05.600
the jealousy, envy, all these things he says that we're not supposed to do hatred towards someone

747
00:47:05.600 --> 00:47:11.600
else hatred towards yourself, whatever. And you fully allow yourself to feel all of that and then

748
00:47:11.600 --> 00:47:16.960
go and be with God and then see the experience that you get from God. And you'll discover that

749
00:47:16.960 --> 00:47:24.000
it's not correction. It's not that God wants us to stay like that. But God knows that we're coming

750
00:47:24.000 --> 00:47:32.960
to him to experience Do you accept me for who I am, while I'm making these decisions? Because it's

751
00:47:32.960 --> 00:47:38.080
not the fact that we're making these decisions or not making these decisions that makes them love us.

752
00:47:38.080 --> 00:47:44.240
It's who it is that we are. But we just happen to be making these decisions. But it's who it is that

753
00:47:44.240 --> 00:47:50.240
we are that he loves and that he fully accepts. And then we'll discover that when you go and you

754
00:47:50.240 --> 00:47:54.800
feel all of those feelings while you're with him, you know, whatever feelings that you're feeling,

755
00:47:54.800 --> 00:48:00.000
you feel it to the fullest extent. If you feel them while you're with him, you'll discover that

756
00:48:00.000 --> 00:48:07.360
just his presence fills the need that that other feeling had been trying to fill for you and his

757
00:48:07.360 --> 00:48:12.240
presence fills in that need, and you no longer need the other. So your anger will lessen your

758
00:48:12.240 --> 00:48:18.240
fear will lessen whatever because he is now feeling that place in you that this other was

759
00:48:18.240 --> 00:48:22.960
trying to meet. And so you no longer need that, then you'll discover that what I've been telling

760
00:48:22.960 --> 00:48:27.200
y'all about your soul and your body that your soul and your body will naturally drop things.

761
00:48:27.200 --> 00:48:31.680
If you fully and lovingly accept yourself, you'll discover that it's true because you've experienced

762
00:48:31.680 --> 00:48:35.680
that that's how God interacts with you. So then you'll realize more because you've had that

763
00:48:35.680 --> 00:48:42.160
experience. Oh, well, it must be true. And my body and my soul respond to me and just drop their

764
00:48:42.160 --> 00:48:46.960
stuff when I'm a safe place for them. Just like I dropped all my stuff when God was a safe place

765
00:48:46.960 --> 00:48:54.000
for me. So anyway, I just said a lot. So what are your thoughts? Yeah. Yeah. No, I think I know that

766
00:48:54.000 --> 00:49:01.280
the one the one thing that I do a lot is a lot of times before, like if I would be struggling

767
00:49:01.280 --> 00:49:07.120
emotionally or like in panic mode, I used to always think like I needed to pray and like

768
00:49:07.120 --> 00:49:13.840
figure this out and like have the come away from it fixed. And I remember now every time that that

769
00:49:13.840 --> 00:49:22.800
comes up. Instead, I look to the Lord as like, he's he somebody to be with. Like, I would more

770
00:49:22.800 --> 00:49:27.760
come to him and tell him like, I need care like I need you to be here with me and like

771
00:49:28.560 --> 00:49:36.400
and yes, that's usually that's what happens is I end up that care from the Lord is what ends up

772
00:49:36.400 --> 00:49:42.000
that's what I need. It doesn't mean like I'm doesn't mean that I come away fixed. It's more

773
00:49:42.000 --> 00:49:49.200
just like, yeah, does that make sense? So I feel like that's that's what I have been doing. Yeah.

774
00:49:49.200 --> 00:49:55.680
And that's been working really well. Were you saying that there's something different that

775
00:49:55.680 --> 00:50:00.480
you're needing that that isn't meeting or providing or

776
00:50:00.000 --> 00:50:02.520
whatever. So are you saying there's something different or are you just

777
00:50:02.520 --> 00:50:05.400
reminding yourself? Oh yeah, that's right. That works. I forgot.

778
00:50:05.400 --> 00:50:08.280
I hadn't been doing that. Yeah. Which are you talking about?

779
00:50:08.720 --> 00:50:12.640
Yeah, I think it, it does help for the most part. I think, yeah,

780
00:50:12.640 --> 00:50:15.320
I keep coming back to that block of,

781
00:50:18.400 --> 00:50:19.320
it works for me,

782
00:50:19.320 --> 00:50:23.440
but then I'm not sure what to do for myself when it comes to parenting.

783
00:50:24.800 --> 00:50:28.920
And maybe it's the same thing. Like, but at the same time, I,

784
00:50:29.080 --> 00:50:32.800
I just feel like for today, I mean,

785
00:50:32.800 --> 00:50:36.240
I think it was like noon by the time we got school started and it was like

786
00:50:36.240 --> 00:50:39.280
herding cats. Like as soon as I got one to the desk,

787
00:50:39.520 --> 00:50:42.960
the other one needed help. And then when I walked away from that one,

788
00:50:42.960 --> 00:50:47.280
then they ran off and it was, yeah. Yeah, I know.

789
00:50:48.200 --> 00:50:49.440
How uncle mom life.

790
00:50:50.440 --> 00:50:55.120
And I'm just like, maybe, maybe the problem and this, okay. So this,

791
00:50:55.560 --> 00:50:58.400
I can, maybe this would be a good example lately.

792
00:50:58.400 --> 00:51:01.480
Every time that we come up with this frustration with Monty,

793
00:51:01.480 --> 00:51:04.480
which is like moment moment Lee, secondly,

794
00:51:06.200 --> 00:51:09.600
I was just like, I'm sending you this boy to school. Like,

795
00:51:10.560 --> 00:51:12.000
that's the only thing that's going to work,

796
00:51:12.080 --> 00:51:17.080
but is that flush or is that like me accepting the fact that I can't do

797
00:51:17.080 --> 00:51:17.920
this?

798
00:51:20.160 --> 00:51:22.640
You know, I don't mean like part of me. Okay.

799
00:51:22.640 --> 00:51:26.560
So the reason I have a block with sending him to school is because I have a

800
00:51:26.560 --> 00:51:31.280
friend who has no relationship with her oldest son. And she is like,

801
00:51:31.720 --> 00:51:35.840
well, I think she started homeschooling them. And she's like, well,

802
00:51:35.840 --> 00:51:39.080
they go to school now because that's the only way that we can like each other.

803
00:51:39.800 --> 00:51:44.000
And I'm like, that's not what I want. But at the same time, I'm,

804
00:51:44.040 --> 00:51:46.840
I'm kind of like, well, maybe she had a point.

805
00:51:48.240 --> 00:51:52.080
I'm like, not that I don't like him. It's almost more like,

806
00:51:52.080 --> 00:51:56.800
I feel like he has a capacity greater than what I'm able to give him.

807
00:51:57.840 --> 00:52:01.520
But is that not that that's probably not spirit. I don't know.

808
00:52:01.560 --> 00:52:06.240
Like I should be all things to all people. Right. But I'm like,

809
00:52:08.040 --> 00:52:11.720
I just don't know. Yeah. That's what I'm struggling with.

810
00:52:12.360 --> 00:52:15.880
Yeah. Well, no, all of that makes sense. And, um,

811
00:52:15.920 --> 00:52:20.920
but you can't know whether it's flush or

812
00:52:22.280 --> 00:52:25.160
it's spirit when you're down in your flesh. Yeah.

813
00:52:25.480 --> 00:52:29.680
So if you let it go, like let go in by part of it.

814
00:52:30.240 --> 00:52:33.800
Okay. This connects with something else I wanted to mention and point out,

815
00:52:33.800 --> 00:52:36.920
cause you're like, Oh, it's so hard to like deal with them and interact with

816
00:52:36.920 --> 00:52:41.480
them. But you're like, Hey, I've noticed. It's great. When, um,

817
00:52:41.520 --> 00:52:45.720
that I have that everything is very effortless and I feel very safe.

818
00:52:46.080 --> 00:52:50.040
And, um, when I'm, when I'm counseling other people,

819
00:52:50.960 --> 00:52:51.840
but not my son.

820
00:52:52.160 --> 00:52:56.520
So it's because you're handling your son different than your you're approaching

821
00:52:56.520 --> 00:52:58.280
your son differently than you're approaching them.

822
00:52:58.280 --> 00:53:01.920
Then you kind of let go of the agenda a bit. You're like, well, you know,

823
00:53:02.160 --> 00:53:05.360
it's all okay. So with your son, it's, Oh my goodness.

824
00:53:05.760 --> 00:53:09.600
It's got to work and he can't be like this and he's got to change.

825
00:53:09.600 --> 00:53:11.360
And so there's this agenda there.

826
00:53:11.920 --> 00:53:16.520
And so therefore it affects how you think of yourself

827
00:53:16.680 --> 00:53:19.160
based off of how he behaves and, you know,

828
00:53:19.160 --> 00:53:22.920
and then that's just going to like turn into some like a snowball effect of

829
00:53:22.920 --> 00:53:25.280
like, well, the worst, the worst he behaves,

830
00:53:25.280 --> 00:53:27.680
the worst that you feel about yourself and where you feel about yourself,

831
00:53:27.680 --> 00:53:31.240
the more controlling or the more upset or whatever.

832
00:53:31.240 --> 00:53:34.800
And then what that does is that blinds your ability to see,

833
00:53:35.040 --> 00:53:38.560
to be able to provide him what he needs and to be able to see what's really

834
00:53:38.560 --> 00:53:43.200
going on. And then to see, so is this, what is the Lord directing me to do?

835
00:53:43.200 --> 00:53:48.240
Am I supposed to keep what, keep doing it with him or am I not, you know?

836
00:53:48.640 --> 00:53:51.560
And so the more that you let go of like, okay,

837
00:53:51.960 --> 00:53:56.960
remember we've talked about this before with with Monty about

838
00:53:57.240 --> 00:53:59.000
you, you,

839
00:54:00.280 --> 00:54:04.920
you choosing that he is who God says that he

840
00:54:04.920 --> 00:54:07.600
is and seeing him like that.

841
00:54:07.960 --> 00:54:09.880
And when you change internally,

842
00:54:09.880 --> 00:54:14.640
how you see him and who you honestly believe him to be spiritually,

843
00:54:14.640 --> 00:54:18.840
that affects him. And he starts in that person starts coming out.

844
00:54:19.360 --> 00:54:23.000
And and so, and you said that as soon as you did it,

845
00:54:23.000 --> 00:54:24.560
you noticed a huge difference.

846
00:54:24.800 --> 00:54:29.600
But what we struggle with is the same thing that I was talking to someone

847
00:54:29.600 --> 00:54:33.000
about a couple of days ago. And they said, well, actually, they said,

848
00:54:33.000 --> 00:54:36.760
I've been doing your rest stuff and, and I've been now going,

849
00:54:36.760 --> 00:54:39.920
and it was great for a while. And I was totally changed.

850
00:54:39.920 --> 00:54:42.040
And my family noticed that I was completely changed.

851
00:54:42.400 --> 00:54:45.560
And then I started going through this time, you know,

852
00:54:45.560 --> 00:54:50.080
lately where it feels like I'm doing all of this stuff that I used to do,

853
00:54:50.360 --> 00:54:53.600
but it's no longer working. That's the word that she is.

854
00:54:53.600 --> 00:54:56.880
She said, it's no longer working. And I was like, well, I said,

855
00:54:56.880 --> 00:54:59.880
the thing is that you have to choose God.

856
00:55:00.000 --> 00:55:04.960
and not rest that you want to, you know, you have to choose God, not his benefits.

857
00:55:04.960 --> 00:55:08.560
So you can't be pursuing rest. I said, but the other thing,

858
00:55:08.560 --> 00:55:16.240
you know, is, is just the fact that, um, it needs to be, um, that, that you really do have to apply

859
00:55:16.240 --> 00:55:21.840
the same simple principles that you did here. They have to be applied here.

860
00:55:21.840 --> 00:55:27.200
You really do have to see and choose that God is who he says he is, and that you are that person

861
00:55:27.760 --> 00:55:33.920
and continue to choose that you are that even over here, you know, and now to deeper levels

862
00:55:33.920 --> 00:55:40.400
and to different scenarios and whatever. So, um, anyway, when you start seeing him like that,

863
00:55:40.400 --> 00:55:45.440
then he'll start to, he'll start to change, et cetera. And also you'll then know better what

864
00:55:45.440 --> 00:55:51.120
to give him because you're shifted into your spirit. You're like you to, so in other words,

865
00:55:51.120 --> 00:55:58.880
what Monty needs that will affect him and influence him the most is his mom being at rest

866
00:55:58.880 --> 00:56:05.440
and his mom knowing who she is in the Lord. And then being that spirit when she's with him

867
00:56:05.440 --> 00:56:12.240
and giving him that, that spirit person of her. And then that will draw that spirit person of him

868
00:56:12.240 --> 00:56:16.560
so that he can see it and start interacting with that. But when it's flesh against flesh,

869
00:56:17.280 --> 00:56:22.720
that that's a battle. So in order to make it no longer a battle, you have to rise above

870
00:56:23.440 --> 00:56:34.080
the flesh and it's, um, anyway, does that make sense at all? I mean, it's hard, but no way it,

871
00:56:34.080 --> 00:56:38.880
and it feels like it won't work. It feels like, well, wait a minute. Isn't that like letting,

872
00:56:39.760 --> 00:56:47.120
letting go of, uh, fixing the problem. So once I let go, all hell is going to break loose.

873
00:56:47.760 --> 00:56:52.240
That's what we think. And that's why we don't, don't do it, but it's the opposite that happens

874
00:56:52.240 --> 00:56:59.840
when we stop trying to control the, um, the behavior and the, you know, and we stop internally

875
00:56:59.840 --> 00:57:05.120
locking down, um, and getting upset and getting stressed and, you know, where it'll manifest in

876
00:57:05.120 --> 00:57:09.680
the sentence of like shaking or, you know, or anger or whatever. And when we start letting go

877
00:57:09.680 --> 00:57:15.520
of all of that and we release them more to the Lord, we can more clearly see this is how they

878
00:57:15.520 --> 00:57:19.120
need to be parented. This is what they need to hear from you right now. This is what's going

879
00:57:19.120 --> 00:57:24.560
to work this, whatever. But when we lock down, we can't hear that. We, we kind of like locked down

880
00:57:24.560 --> 00:57:28.960
and shut ourselves off from wisdom and knowledge and understanding, and we can't get it. So all

881
00:57:28.960 --> 00:57:33.760
that we have left to rely on is our, is our own mind or our past experience, what psychologists

882
00:57:33.760 --> 00:57:39.680
we've talked to, what did our parents do when we did this type of thing, you know, or whatever.

883
00:57:39.680 --> 00:57:44.480
Um, and, uh, so it'll feel like it won't work, which is why we don't do it. We're afraid of

884
00:57:44.480 --> 00:57:47.600
letting go. We're afraid that we're going to lose whatever progress that we've made,

885
00:57:48.160 --> 00:57:52.720
but really remember what we've talked about with your business is it's the same thing,

886
00:57:52.720 --> 00:58:01.360
whatever we, you, however you start the thing is how, and however you create a result is how you

887
00:58:01.360 --> 00:58:06.800
have to maintain it. So if you created it with a lot of soulish, okay, we're going to do all of

888
00:58:06.800 --> 00:58:10.560
this. Okay. That seemed to be working with Monty. Oh my word. Now it's no longer working. Okay. So

889
00:58:10.560 --> 00:58:15.920
let's, you know, it's clamped down harder, or you realize we have to keep doing that in order for it

890
00:58:15.920 --> 00:58:22.080
to keep getting that result. And it's just a lot of work. So anyway, um, what are your thoughts?

891
00:58:23.520 --> 00:58:26.240
Yeah, I think, um, I think,

892
00:58:26.240 --> 00:58:33.040
I think I still, I still struggle with knowing, like,

893
00:58:35.040 --> 00:58:40.560
all I can do is laugh because honestly, it's just so horrible right now. Um, sorry.

894
00:58:42.240 --> 00:58:49.840
I think I'm just, I, I just in the moment, it's like a blackout and I'm just, and I do, I, what

895
00:58:49.840 --> 00:58:54.800
you said earlier about like the way I know that I'm different with him than I am with, you know,

896
00:58:54.800 --> 00:59:03.040
people that I minister to. Um, I think in the moment, like my biggest thing is like, okay,

897
00:59:03.040 --> 00:59:07.760
well, if he decides that he's not going to do school, do I just let him not do school?

898
00:59:09.600 --> 00:59:14.400
I'm not sure, but then I'm like, yeah, go ahead. That's what I'm wondering. Like,

899
00:59:14.400 --> 00:59:21.920
how, how do I still uphold like expectations and how do I get him to comply? Like,

900
00:59:22.880 --> 00:59:29.440
yeah, I think I'm just not sure. Cause it usually ends up that I'm like, he's like,

901
00:59:29.440 --> 00:59:34.080
no, I'm not doing that. Like, he'll just say it like, no, I'm not doing that. And then I'm like,

902
00:59:36.320 --> 00:59:41.760
I just freeze because I'm like, okay, well, he just said, he's not going to do it.

903
00:59:43.280 --> 00:59:48.560
Well, normally like my other resort would have been to like, okay, well then we have to spank

904
00:59:48.560 --> 00:59:54.240
you. You know? And I'm at the point where I'm like, that does not help. It doesn't help at all.

905
00:59:54.240 --> 00:59:57.920
And Arnold and I don't quite see eye to eye on all of these things. And I don't even know what

906
00:59:57.920 --> 00:59:59.760
I think on all of these things yet. Yeah.

907
01:00:00.000 --> 01:00:03.000
But I'm like, I told Arnold this morning, I'm like,

908
01:00:03.000 --> 01:00:06.500
unless that child decides in his heart that he wants to do something,

909
01:00:06.500 --> 01:00:08.700
he can do the thing and he's still not doing it.

910
01:00:08.700 --> 01:00:13.000
Like, it's not, obedience doesn't even matter, you know what I mean?

911
01:00:13.000 --> 01:00:15.300
Because, yeah, he's not doing it.

912
01:00:15.300 --> 01:00:18.300
And so I'm, at this point, that's what I'm not sure of.

913
01:00:18.300 --> 01:00:22.900
It's like, what do I do when he just is like, I'm not doing that thing.

914
01:00:22.900 --> 01:00:26.700
Do I, and I have been like, okay, well then,

915
01:00:27.700 --> 01:00:30.600
we're going to, you know, have to give you a consequence.

916
01:00:30.600 --> 01:00:32.400
One of your privileges can be taken away.

917
01:00:32.400 --> 01:00:34.000
But by the end of the day, it's like, I mean,

918
01:00:34.000 --> 01:00:37.400
he has no life left to live because all his privileges are removed.

919
01:00:37.400 --> 01:00:42.100
And I mean, honestly, sometimes I'm like,

920
01:00:42.100 --> 01:00:46.600
does every parent feel this way, like with their first child?

921
01:00:46.600 --> 01:00:50.300
I've heard that the first child is always very difficult.

922
01:00:50.300 --> 01:00:53.300
And I think it's largely because that's your first child.

923
01:00:53.500 --> 01:00:59.200
But yeah.

924
01:00:59.200 --> 01:01:02.600
No, not all children are that challenging.

925
01:01:02.600 --> 01:01:06.300
And I know that because I have a niece who's very, very challenging.

926
01:01:06.300 --> 01:01:08.900
And that, and we've, and we were all the same way.

927
01:01:08.900 --> 01:01:12.300
We're all kind of like, well, this is the first.

928
01:01:12.300 --> 01:01:14.200
Are we just not paying attention and they're all like this?

929
01:01:14.200 --> 01:01:17.800
And then the others started coming after and we're like, no.

930
01:01:17.800 --> 01:01:20.400
Yeah, like my other kids are totally different.

931
01:01:20.400 --> 01:01:21.700
Yeah. So it might be,

932
01:01:21.700 --> 01:01:27.300
he might be what they refer to as a very strong willed child.

933
01:01:27.300 --> 01:01:28.300
So here's the thing.

934
01:01:28.300 --> 01:01:31.500
So those people, you know, there's different ways that you can like,

935
01:01:31.500 --> 01:01:35.000
like handle that, you know, behavior and all of that.

936
01:01:35.000 --> 01:01:37.700
And I'm afraid and unfortunately, you know, I'm not an expert on any of that.

937
01:01:37.700 --> 01:01:39.600
I don't even have children of my own.

938
01:01:39.600 --> 01:01:43.500
I've had to figure out how to manage my own my niece though,

939
01:01:43.500 --> 01:01:48.300
and who's very strong willed and I've been able to get headway with her,

940
01:01:48.300 --> 01:01:53.000
which has been, which has been, which has been great and very helpful.

941
01:01:53.000 --> 01:01:58.100
But it was when I treated her and it's treated her,

942
01:01:58.100 --> 01:02:04.300
like she was good and kind and wonderful and all of this stuff.

943
01:02:04.300 --> 01:02:06.900
Like I had to see her like that.

944
01:02:06.900 --> 01:02:09.300
And when I did, she began to change how she interacted,

945
01:02:09.300 --> 01:02:11.600
because I changed how I talked to her too.

946
01:02:11.600 --> 01:02:13.800
When I did, because I saw her different.

947
01:02:13.800 --> 01:02:15.200
When I saw her different,

948
01:02:15.300 --> 01:02:17.200
I just automatically without trying,

949
01:02:17.200 --> 01:02:20.300
started changing how I would interact with her and talk to her.

950
01:02:20.300 --> 01:02:23.800
And then I could see more easily in a moment,

951
01:02:23.800 --> 01:02:26.400
what she needed and how she needed to be talked to,

952
01:02:26.400 --> 01:02:29.300
because I was no longer threatened by her behavior.

953
01:02:29.300 --> 01:02:32.100
But if I thought that she was how she, that she,

954
01:02:32.100 --> 01:02:35.400
that our identity was how she was behaving, I felt threatened by it.

955
01:02:35.400 --> 01:02:38.900
But when I no longer became, was no longer threatened,

956
01:02:38.900 --> 01:02:44.000
personally threatened by her and how, you know, and who are sorry to be,

957
01:02:44.000 --> 01:02:45.000
you know,

958
01:02:45.000 --> 01:02:47.000
I was no longer threatened by her behavior.

959
01:02:47.000 --> 01:02:48.900
And then everything went much smoother.

960
01:02:48.900 --> 01:02:51.500
I was able to then interact with her.

961
01:02:51.500 --> 01:02:52.700
And.

962
01:02:52.700 --> 01:02:58.000
More wisely because in the moment I could see the word would show me

963
01:02:58.000 --> 01:03:00.300
what was going on and what she needed, et cetera.

964
01:03:00.300 --> 01:03:01.800
So the thing is that right now.

965
01:03:01.800 --> 01:03:04.100
He's he's in control.

966
01:03:04.100 --> 01:03:06.300
And he's, and he can control you.

967
01:03:06.300 --> 01:03:08.100
He doesn't feel controlled by you.

968
01:03:08.100 --> 01:03:09.900
He feels in control, so to speak.

969
01:03:09.900 --> 01:03:13.100
Because all he has to do is say, no, I can't imagine.

970
01:03:13.200 --> 01:03:15.000
You know, you know, ever telling.

971
01:03:15.000 --> 01:03:16.600
No, none of us.

972
01:03:16.600 --> 01:03:18.700
Like.

973
01:03:18.700 --> 01:03:21.000
But at the same time, all of us got,

974
01:03:21.000 --> 01:03:24.200
we don't want to raise our children quite in the same way that we were

975
01:03:24.200 --> 01:03:25.100
raised.

976
01:03:25.100 --> 01:03:30.700
And, and because we felt, we see the results of all of that, right.

977
01:03:30.700 --> 01:03:33.600
And we realized how it affected us long-term is, you know,

978
01:03:33.600 --> 01:03:37.100
into adulthood of like feeling like we're not in control of our lives and

979
01:03:37.100 --> 01:03:39.400
that someone else is always in control.

980
01:03:39.400 --> 01:03:42.400
And, and then feeling bad about the Lord, you know,

981
01:03:42.500 --> 01:03:43.400
You know,

982
01:03:43.400 --> 01:03:45.000
that he's like that with us, et cetera.

983
01:03:45.000 --> 01:03:46.500
And we don't want that for our children.

984
01:03:46.500 --> 01:03:48.200
So now we're all having to discover, okay,

985
01:03:48.200 --> 01:03:52.000
well, how do you discipline and give them what it is that they need?

986
01:03:52.000 --> 01:03:54.300
While not, you know, controlling.

987
01:03:54.300 --> 01:03:58.200
And one of the really big things is to not is,

988
01:03:58.200 --> 01:04:00.200
is to free yourself.

989
01:04:00.200 --> 01:04:02.400
So this is how I talk to women who feel,

990
01:04:02.400 --> 01:04:04.500
who are abused in their marriages.

991
01:04:04.500 --> 01:04:06.600
They I've had multiple, I don't know why,

992
01:04:06.600 --> 01:04:10.200
but I've had multiple people, multiple wives come to me.

993
01:04:10.300 --> 01:04:11.800
You know, who feel abused in their marriages,

994
01:04:11.800 --> 01:04:14.400
feel very controlled and they asked me what to do.

995
01:04:14.400 --> 01:04:17.100
And I said, well, first of all, you need to free yourself.

996
01:04:17.100 --> 01:04:18.400
And by that, I always explain it.

997
01:04:18.400 --> 01:04:19.700
I don't mean you need to leave him.

998
01:04:19.700 --> 01:04:21.200
That's between you and the Lord,

999
01:04:21.200 --> 01:04:25.200
because most all of these women are being emotionally and verbally abused.

1000
01:04:25.200 --> 01:04:26.500
It's not physical.

1001
01:04:26.500 --> 01:04:27.300
And so I said, you know,

1002
01:04:27.300 --> 01:04:29.000
it's between you and the Lord about what you want to do.

1003
01:04:29.000 --> 01:04:30.400
But I do know that,

1004
01:04:30.400 --> 01:04:33.400
that internally you need to free yourself and understand that you aren't

1005
01:04:33.400 --> 01:04:34.400
owned.

1006
01:04:34.400 --> 01:04:35.700
God owns you.

1007
01:04:35.700 --> 01:04:39.100
You're not owned by this other person and you have to own yourself.

1008
01:04:39.100 --> 01:04:40.100
You have to claim yourself.

1009
01:04:40.100 --> 01:04:43.500
And I can tell you by personal experience and other in other

1010
01:04:43.500 --> 01:04:45.100
relationships I've had in my life,

1011
01:04:45.100 --> 01:04:47.200
that that is the only way to do it.

1012
01:04:47.200 --> 01:04:49.500
So you have to free yourself.

1013
01:04:49.500 --> 01:04:52.700
And then you're not as intimidated by or threatened by somebody else's

1014
01:04:52.700 --> 01:04:53.500
behavior.

1015
01:04:53.500 --> 01:04:55.800
Then you can more clearly see what's going on.

1016
01:04:55.800 --> 01:04:57.600
And, and, and, and your,

1017
01:04:57.600 --> 01:04:59.300
and your spirit isn't being.

1018
01:05:00.000 --> 01:05:05.160
I'm not stifled, but like, shut off where you can't hear it and you can't hear wisdom

1019
01:05:05.160 --> 01:05:06.160
and whatever.

1020
01:05:06.160 --> 01:05:09.120
And, but the scary thing is we feel like we're letting go.

1021
01:05:09.120 --> 01:05:13.760
We felt like, Oh my goodness, I'll hell break loose unless I do it like this, but it's shifting

1022
01:05:13.760 --> 01:05:17.340
from one kingdom and how the kingdom of the world will deal with that child versus the

1023
01:05:17.340 --> 01:05:18.340
kingdom of God.

1024
01:05:18.340 --> 01:05:19.920
We'll deal with that child.

1025
01:05:19.920 --> 01:05:23.680
And so it's a, it's a different, it's the source of discipline is from a completely

1026
01:05:23.680 --> 01:05:25.000
different place.

1027
01:05:25.000 --> 01:05:29.200
So you're still in charge and you're still the parent and you don't.

1028
01:05:29.200 --> 01:05:33.000
And then if you, if you choose that, that is who you are and that that's the authority

1029
01:05:33.000 --> 01:05:39.140
that God gave you, and then you are responsible for seeing your child as God says that he

1030
01:05:39.140 --> 01:05:41.560
actually is, you know, who he's made him to be.

1031
01:05:41.560 --> 01:05:42.560
He's made him to be perfect.

1032
01:05:42.560 --> 01:05:46.680
He's made him to be strong and he's extremely smart and he's not a problem child.

1033
01:05:46.680 --> 01:05:47.680
He's not a demon child.

1034
01:05:47.680 --> 01:05:50.120
He's not a, you know, you know, whatever.

1035
01:05:50.120 --> 01:05:53.640
He's not all of these labels that people want to put on him.

1036
01:05:53.640 --> 01:05:56.240
You know, he's not a problem.

1037
01:05:56.240 --> 01:05:58.720
You know, he's your, your child is not an issue.

1038
01:05:59.240 --> 01:06:06.880
He's a, he's a person who has, has to figure out who he is and how to interact in the world,

1039
01:06:06.880 --> 01:06:10.760
you know, and so he's just figuring it all out in a world of sin in which he's threatened

1040
01:06:10.760 --> 01:06:16.120
with fear and you know, and, and, and all of these things.

1041
01:06:16.120 --> 01:06:21.880
And so you help him as a parent, navigate through the mess right now, this is the mess

1042
01:06:21.880 --> 01:06:22.880
him acting out.

1043
01:06:22.880 --> 01:06:23.880
This is the mess.

1044
01:06:23.880 --> 01:06:28.620
He's just like, what, which end is up, you know, you're providing a safe and secure place.

1045
01:06:29.520 --> 01:06:32.180
And the most safe and secure thing that we can do for other people, child or not our

1046
01:06:32.180 --> 01:06:39.540
spouses, our own parents, you know, relationships that we have is to own ourselves and understand

1047
01:06:39.540 --> 01:06:43.420
that we are not threatened by or controlled by anyone else.

1048
01:06:43.420 --> 01:06:46.620
And then to understand our proper authority structure, especially if you're the parent

1049
01:06:46.620 --> 01:06:52.100
that you have that authority and in that, in that, you know, your child can do whatever

1050
01:06:52.100 --> 01:06:57.300
he wants without it threatening your identity or whether or not you're being a good parent.

1051
01:06:57.300 --> 01:07:02.140
And then you can more clearly see because you're not threatened by how he acts.

1052
01:07:02.140 --> 01:07:03.140
Okay, fine.

1053
01:07:03.140 --> 01:07:04.140
He's acting out.

1054
01:07:04.140 --> 01:07:05.140
Okay.

1055
01:07:05.140 --> 01:07:10.500
So now let's, but if you, if you latch emotionally onto how he's acting out, you can't see.

1056
01:07:10.500 --> 01:07:14.540
So you have to emotionally, you have to detach and I don't mean that you don't care.

1057
01:07:14.540 --> 01:07:17.340
I don't mean that you emotionally detach as if you don't care.

1058
01:07:17.340 --> 01:07:20.980
You emotionally let go of an agenda that he needs to be a specific way.

1059
01:07:20.980 --> 01:07:25.620
You know, that whole thing of life where we talk about rest and we say that the third

1060
01:07:25.620 --> 01:07:27.940
tool in rest is no judgment.

1061
01:07:27.940 --> 01:07:33.860
It's like, it's not, it's, it's releasing the fact that it's stopping thinking that

1062
01:07:33.860 --> 01:07:35.020
it shouldn't be like this.

1063
01:07:35.020 --> 01:07:36.020
It should be different.

1064
01:07:36.020 --> 01:07:38.700
No, this is just, this is just what he's doing right now.

1065
01:07:38.700 --> 01:07:39.700
It's not who he is.

1066
01:07:39.700 --> 01:07:40.700
It's just what he's doing.

1067
01:07:40.700 --> 01:07:43.380
It's how he's acting, you know, et cetera.

1068
01:07:43.380 --> 01:07:49.700
And I'm in the, excuse me, in the letting that get, and then just allowing that to be.

1069
01:07:49.700 --> 01:07:53.800
And then when you don't feel threatened, then you'll more able, be able to more clearly

1070
01:07:53.800 --> 01:07:59.140
see him as God says that he is and know what to say, know what to do, know what consequences

1071
01:07:59.140 --> 01:08:01.960
to kind of like bring up a, like, okay, how should we deal with this?

1072
01:08:01.960 --> 01:08:05.520
Because apparently this child is not worried about spankings.

1073
01:08:05.520 --> 01:08:10.740
Apparently spankings are very unmotivating and you know, there might be all kinds of

1074
01:08:10.740 --> 01:08:14.880
other things that work with your other kids, but they, they're not, they're not to motivate

1075
01:08:14.880 --> 01:08:15.880
it.

1076
01:08:15.880 --> 01:08:19.200
They're not motivating to him, you know, to avoid this, like, fine, you can take away

1077
01:08:19.200 --> 01:08:20.200
my game boy.

1078
01:08:20.200 --> 01:08:21.200
Fine.

1079
01:08:21.200 --> 01:08:22.200
You can take away my video games.

1080
01:08:22.200 --> 01:08:23.200
Fine.

1081
01:08:23.600 --> 01:08:24.600
I won't have to go.

1082
01:08:24.600 --> 01:08:29.279
I don't have to go outside because he'd much rather have, you know, he'd have this feeling

1083
01:08:29.279 --> 01:08:33.960
of, of control and not doing what he didn't want to do rather than letting all those things

1084
01:08:33.960 --> 01:08:34.960
go.

1085
01:08:34.960 --> 01:08:35.960
So those things just don't work for him.

1086
01:08:35.960 --> 01:08:38.680
And so you have to find the things that, that do work for him.

1087
01:08:38.680 --> 01:08:42.560
Like, and I, I can't, I wish I could remember like what they finally figured out worked

1088
01:08:42.560 --> 01:08:47.800
for my, and worked for my niece because spankings wouldn't work for her either, but something

1089
01:08:47.800 --> 01:08:48.800
did.

1090
01:08:48.800 --> 01:08:49.800
I wish it's now.

1091
01:08:49.800 --> 01:08:55.319
I wish I remembered what, what did work for her, but anyway, I think timeout didn't work

1092
01:08:55.319 --> 01:09:00.279
for her, but something else did cause she, and she couldn't, and they found out she couldn't

1093
01:09:00.279 --> 01:09:03.840
stand it because that was where her value was.

1094
01:09:03.840 --> 01:09:05.840
And I don't remember what it was.

1095
01:09:05.840 --> 01:09:12.000
It was like not being around people or it was something, but anyway, so, but you'll

1096
01:09:12.000 --> 01:09:14.240
find that out.

1097
01:09:14.240 --> 01:09:19.080
If you, like I said, if you remember those basic things, I know they sound really basic.

1098
01:09:19.359 --> 01:09:20.359
I know.

1099
01:09:20.359 --> 01:09:21.359
I promise that.

1100
01:09:21.359 --> 01:09:22.359
I understand.

1101
01:09:22.359 --> 01:09:25.160
It sounds like it won't work, but God says that it works.

1102
01:09:25.160 --> 01:09:26.160
You choose that.

1103
01:09:26.160 --> 01:09:29.880
He is who he says that he is, that you are who he says you are in that, that Monty is

1104
01:09:29.880 --> 01:09:34.760
who he says that he is and start changing how all of that is seen.

1105
01:09:34.760 --> 01:09:38.240
And then you will, you will know how to deal with things.

1106
01:09:38.240 --> 01:09:40.560
You'll just, you'll just know.

1107
01:09:40.560 --> 01:09:44.359
And then of course, there's always things that you can learn from like other parents

1108
01:09:44.359 --> 01:09:48.439
and, and whatever, but all of that needs to run through your spirit anyway of like how

1109
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to deal with them.

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But as far as like behavior things, you know, other people can help with that, but is that

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helpful at all?

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

1114
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It does something.

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I know it doesn't fix the problem.

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Oh, I know. I know. But I, I feel like it does help me the part about remembering that like

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he doesn't control me. Cause I think so often that's why I resent. I feel like I resent

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because he like every day I wake up and I'm like, wonder what his day is going to be like today.

1119
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Right. So basically you need to take you back. Yeah. You Monty doesn't control you. Monty does

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not determine your day is he Monty is the same thing as situations that we run into. It's just

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like, Oh, this is an environment that we're in, that we felt controlled by. So his behavior and

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his choices and his decisions are creating situations that you can feel controlled by.

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And so whether he's creating them, you know, because he's, he's trying to struggle through

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how to do this whole life thing, or it's like some other issue that you're running into at

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church or it's, you know, some issue that you're running into in your business, whatever it is,

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all they are are situations that we have to realize we are not the, we are not being

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controlled by them. The only way that makes us be controlled by them is if we let it is,

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if we let our lives and our decisions and how we feel about ourselves and how we interact with

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someone else, if we're feeling that that is determined by what is happening. In other words,

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our whole life is simply response is simply reaction. And instead we need to switch to

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choosing to choosing to create our life, choosing to determine our life, choosing to go at it from

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an offensive, you know, perspective. So anyway, I know that that might sound little and you're

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probably thinking, yeah, but I don't understand how, yeah, but actually I've got these very

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specific situations and I don't know how to affect these, but I promise you, I promise you

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before God, it, these things, these really simple things will completely change everything.

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Um, at the very, at the fundamental level, the other stuff, quite honestly, that like

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adjusting behavior and whatever, that's honestly just fixing symptoms. It's not fixing the root

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cause. So, so what I'm talking about is like the long-term, um, root foundation and making

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that healthy, but I'll let y'all go. Is that helpful? Yeah, it is. Okay. All right. You're

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welcome. Okay. Good to see y'all. I will see y'all Monday and I'm going to have to get back to y'all

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on that because I have a doctor's appointment for this call and that was the appointment she gave

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me was around the time that we're supposed to meet. So I'm going to see if I can call and adjust

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that. So anyway, but I'll see y'all on Monday probably. You're welcome. Thank you. Bye.